Session Start: Mon May 08 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #windowsxp
[00:01] <[Katami]> :/
[00:02] <roto> hey boobs
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[01:51] <[Syntax]> is there a new exploit that can infect windows via a webpage or something
[01:51] <[Syntax]> In the last week suddenly my explorer.exe jumps to 99% cpu usage
[01:52] <[Syntax]> very often
[01:52] <[Syntax]> and I have to kill the process sometimes and restart it to regain control
[01:53] <[Syntax]> Ive already virus scanned.. and checked for odd processes, checked my star
[01:53] <[Syntax]> cant find anything out of the ordinary
[01:53] <Ta1oN> which virusscanner, and did you check for shell extensions and drivers?
[01:54] <[Syntax]> I used housecall online and ewido/spysweeper for spyware
[01:54] <Ta1oN> housecall is fine... check for shell extensions and drivers then...
[01:55] <Ta1oN> in device manager -> view -> show hidden devices
[01:55] <Ta1oN> check the non-pnp ones... all non-ms drivers there could be the cause
[01:55] <Ta1oN> also get shexview
[01:55] <Ta1oN> !g shexview
[01:55] <Ayudante> ShellExView - Shell Extension Manager Fo @ http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/sh
[01:55] <Ta1oN> with that you can see all installed shell extensions and remove them if neede
[01:55] <Ta1oN> again look especially for all non-ms extensions
[01:56] <Ta1oN> also get process explorer from sysinternals... you can easily see the threads
[01:59] <[Syntax]> dont see anything in shexview
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[02:12] <[Syntax]> theres a program that lists all processes and has a database of trojans an
[02:12] <[Syntax]> any idea what that prog is? I used to have it..
[02:12] <[Syntax]> I thought it was process manager
[02:12] <[Syntax]> err process explorer
[02:15] <[Syntax]> found it.. Security Task Manager
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[02:39] <square> http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toolbar3td.jpg
[02:42] <Zpeppe> does anyone know if you can use a WindowsXP product key for any copy of wind
[02:43] <lwek> try it :) doubt you will get far
[02:44] <Zpeppe> i just bought a computer and the great guys at the store didnt put the windo
[02:44] <lwek> ring them up
[02:44] <lwek> and get it
[02:44] <lwek> :)
[02:44] <ORaNz`> than go back , and ask for it
[02:44] <CyberGeek> :-p
[02:44] <ORaNz`> its your license
[02:44] <ORaNz`> you pay for that sticker, not for the windows cd itself.
[02:44] <Zpeppe> its closed so i gotta go back tomorrow, just seein if theres a way to get ar
[02:45] <ORaNz`> what are you trying to do exacly
[02:45] <lwek> install illegal copy of windows!
[02:46] <Zpeppe> get past the product key screen so i can get into windows
[02:46] <ORaNz`> you cant, you need your key..
[02:46] <Zpeppe> so its all specific to the copy of windows that has been installed?
[02:48] <Ta1oN> no, it is specific to the licensing model used
[02:49] <Ta1oN> if it's an oem version, any oem key will work
[02:49] <Ta1oN> retail keys for any retail version and vlk keys for any vlk version
[02:49] <Ta1oN> anyway, you need a valid license key for your windows version... if you use a
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[02:53] <Zpeppe> where do you get a retail key?
[02:54] <ORaNz`> the store.
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[03:09] <Romario> hey everybody!
[03:10] <Romario> Anybody have any idea what would cause my computer to restart by itself? Ju
[03:22] <Thadius> unplug it then
[03:22] <Thadius> check ram
[03:22] <Thadius> ?? memtest
[03:22] <CyberGeek> memtest == http://www.memtest86.com/ | http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windia
[03:22] <Thadius> check temps
[03:23] <Thadius> and try safe mode, or last known good configuration
[03:23] <Romario> no clue it happens very seldomly
[03:23] <Thadius> check memory then
[03:23] <Thadius> and make sure your temps are ok
[03:27] <Ta1oN> Romario, turn off automatic restart first
[03:27] <Ta1oN> xp does an automatic reboot if it encounters a blue screen (crash)
[03:27] <Ta1oN> you can turn that off in the systemproperties (start->run->sysdm.cpl-&g
[03:28] <Ta1oN> next time your system crashes it won't reboot, but instead show you the error
[03:28] <Ta1oN> write it down cause this information can be very helpfull with finding the ca
[03:29] <Romario> Okay. I'll disable it thanks. I remember the function just was unaware wher
[03:30] <Romario> the system log is checked
[03:30] <Ta1oN> you could also just debug the minidump it created when it rebootet... or you
[03:30] <Romario> If i can find this log ill post the info to you guys... one sed
[03:30] <Romario> sec*
[03:32] <Ta1oN> Romario, look into your folder %windir%\minidump if it contains any recent mi
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[03:34] <Romario> there is one there
[03:34] <Romario> yes
[03:34] <Romario> one Dmp file
[03:34] <Ta1oN> if you want, you can send it to me and i'll debug it
[03:35] <Romario> and in eventviewer there are a ton of system messages not sure which applie
[03:39] <Romario> what should i do with this dmp file
[03:40] <Romario> this is gonna require some reading heh
[03:40] <Ta1oN> um... that is requiring more than just reading
[03:40] <Ta1oN> if you want to debug it yourself, you would need pretty deep knowledge about
[03:41] <Ta1oN> you can either turn off the autoreboot, as i suggested, and wait for the next
[03:41] <Romario> yeh, downloading debug tools, etc
[03:41] <Ta1oN> or you debug the dmp file somehow
[03:41] <Ta1oN> both will show you the reason of your problem
[03:42] <Romario> yeh i turned off the auto-restart ill just wait for the next one =)
[03:42] <Romario> im so excited i can hardly wait
[03:45] <Ta1oN> btw... you DID check your temperatures, like thadius suggested?
[03:46] <Romario> um yeah how do i do that LOLzorz
[03:47] <Thadius> !g temp monitor windows
[03:47] <Ayudante> PCWorld.com - Motherboard Monitor @ http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_
[03:48] <Romario> man its nice having a good channel like this
[03:48] <Romario> been using irc for like 10 years and it seems like mostly going downhill...
[03:52] <Ta1oN> np
[03:52] <[Syntax]> Ta1on I found a dll injection
[03:52] <Ta1oN> HOW did you find it and what dll and where did it get injected?
[03:52] <[Syntax]> my registry had the shell line attached to a dll.. with like 50 spaces bet
[03:52] <Ta1oN> oh
[03:53] <[Syntax]> so when you viewed it, you only saw explorer.exe
[03:53] <Ta1oN> 99% spyware/virus then
[03:53] <Romario> brb
[03:53] <Romario> restart
[03:53] <[Syntax]> I ran that program I was talking about
[03:53] <Ta1oN> and a bad one if it just alters the shell :/
[03:53] <[Syntax]> I hex edited the dll
[03:53] <[Syntax]> and saw that it steals outlook flashfxp and other password files
[03:54] <[Syntax]> so I gotta change all my emails and ftp ect..
[03:54] <Ta1oN> even if you don't want to hear it, you should reinstall the system
[03:54] <Ta1oN> you can never know what else the dll did
[03:54] <Ta1oN> or what else came with the dll
[03:54] <Ta1oN> you could very well have some rootkit running which hides some remote shell f
[03:54] <[Syntax]> I did a file search for files modified or created within the last 5 days
[03:55] <[Syntax]> thats how I found the file to begin with
[03:55] <Ta1oN> that won't help you there
[03:55] <Ta1oN> rootkit = hides objects = if it hides a file, you CAN'T find it
[03:55] <Ta1oN> and as you never can be sure, a complete reinstall of the system is the only
[03:56] <Ta1oN> personally i would never work with a sysem which was compromised once
[03:57] <[Syntax]> do you know what the windows\pss\ folder is for?
[03:57] <Romario> k .. this manager thing shows up twice in my tasktray (one icon red the oth
[03:57] <Ta1oN> pss is a backup folder
[03:58] <[Syntax]> what creates those backups?
[03:58] <Ta1oN> windows
[03:58] <Ta1oN> normally you should se nothing in it... or sometimes win.ini.backup and syste
[03:59] <[Syntax]> scanner found 2 files in there
[03:59] <[Syntax]> C:\WINDOWS\pss\ZAdobeGammaLoader.exeStartup -> Hijacker.VB.mn : Cleaned
[03:59] <[Syntax]> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZCheckUpdate.exe -> Backdoor.HackDef.134 : Cleaned
[03:59] <[Syntax]> well 1 in the pss and one in the system32
[04:00] <ntoskrnl> Romario: what's the problem with it?
[04:00] <Romario> ntoskrnl i download this motherboard manager thing but i dont get why its s
[04:00] <Romario> one is red the other is black
[04:01] <ntoskrnl> sounds like the typical '* manager' utility standard :)
[04:02] <ntoskrnl> "we'll make your machine run 5781% faster!!!.... (Even though we have prob
[04:02] <[Syntax]> I can reinstall the machine, my thing is wondering how it got on here in t
[04:03] <[Syntax]> what application installed it.. or if it was a website that did it
[04:03] <Romario> this thing must be broken everything says 32 - 32 - 32
[04:03] <[Syntax]> I generally use firefox for everything, but lately Ive seen popups get pas
[04:03] <[Syntax]> I saw someones machine infected with mysearch toolbar on firefox last week
[04:04] <ntoskrnl> Romario: what are you hoping to do with the util?
[04:04] <Romario> see my cpu temps
[04:04] <Romario> and stuff like that
[04:05] <ntoskrnl> bios will probably have that info if you're really desperate. otherwise,
[04:07] <Ta1oN> syntax, there are at the moment at least 2 unfixed ie and one unfixed ff expl
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[04:08] <Ta1oN> the only real protection: either disable active scripting or don't visit webs
[04:09] <Ta1oN> oh, and personally i know of no similiar exploit in the current opera version
[04:09] <Ta1oN> but in the end, no webbrowser will ever be 100% safe if he supports any kind
[04:09] <Ta1oN> and anyone who really thinks that a modern AND secure webbrowser is possible
[04:10] <Ta1oN> btw... in your special case there would be a simple practice which would have
[04:10] <Ta1oN> to change the startup shell the virus/spyware needs admin privileges or highe
[04:10] <Ta1oN> so if you hadn't used your firefox with admin privileges you would not have b
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[04:57] <pangelovs> hi guys, anyone here?
[04:57] * ntoskrnl points to the list of names on the right
[04:58] <pangelovs> :)
[04:58] <CyberGeek> ;-))
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[05:00] <pangelovs> right to business. Anyone have any idea why view inbox in gmail notifier
[05:01] <pangelovs> But if i install firefox and click on a mailto link in ie, gmail opens in
[05:02] <Ta1oN> mailto links shouldn't open in ie at all... they normally open in your defaul
[05:02] <Ta1oN> which would be outlook express normally
[05:03] <pangelovs> but it used to work.
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[05:03] <Ta1oN> what used to work? mailto links can't open in ie... ie is a browser, mailto l
[05:04] <pangelovs> when clicking mailto links in ie. gmail opened up. now nothing happens
[05:04] <Ta1oN> oh, so you mean that clicking on a mailto link doesn't open your mail app
[05:04] <Ta1oN> go to your mail app and make sure it is assosiated as default e-mail program
[05:05] * xti``` is now known as xti
[05:05] <pangelovs> how do i do that
[05:05] <Ta1oN> depends on the mail-app... and as i do not use gmail i have no clue
[05:05] <Ta1oN> somewhere in the options maybe
[05:05] <pangelovs> ok, give me a sec
[05:06] <pangelovs> ok, its set on system default, how can i check system default
[05:06] <Ta1oN> ?
[05:06] <Ta1oN> what is set to system default?
[05:07] <Ta1oN> open control panel, internet options, programs
[05:07] <pangelovs> gmail-->option = system default
[05:07] <Ta1oN> make sure your gmail thing is there as e-mail program
[05:07] <pangelovs> email= outlook express
[05:08] <pangelovs> sry, office outlook
[05:08] <Ta1oN> then mailto links should open in outlook express
[05:08] <Ta1oN> or outlook... or whatever you see there
[05:08] <pangelovs> seriously, nothing happens
[05:08] <pangelovs> ill, try someting i found on the inet, brb
[05:08] <ntoskrnl> isnt gmail like a webmail thing? it doesnt seem like that's gonna work ex
[05:09] <Ta1oN> i have no clue... i don't touch gmail
[05:09] <ntoskrnl> its like trying to associate mailto: with 'www.hotmail.com'
[05:10] <ntoskrnl> IOW, its not a process/app that can be associated with a content type... i
[05:45] <Janger> .
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[06:29] <fluor_> hi there. i have a problem. When the dhcp is slow, my computer gets correct
[06:30] <GenNMX> ipconfig /flushdns
[06:31] <Ta1oN> fluor_, how exactly is the "dhcp slow"?
[06:32] <Ta1oN> a dhcp answers or it does not answer... but no matter how fast it answers, as
[06:32] <fluor_> Ta1oN: it gives ip after around 2 minutes sometime
[06:32] <fluor_> client spend ages waiting for DHCP info
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[06:33] <Ta1oN> then you have some serious network problems
[06:33] <fluor_> no
[06:33] <Ta1oN> what dhcp are you using? what network are you using? what network concentrato
[06:33] <Ta1oN> yes
[06:33] <Ta1oN> a dhcp will answer as soon as he gets the dhcp request packet
[06:33] <fluor_> brb
[06:33] <bofh`> heh, yes, if you're waiting 2 minutes for a response you definitely have seri
[06:34] <Ta1oN> even including the "is this ip already in use" broadcast, a dhcp request shou
[06:35] <Ta1oN> 2 minutes is... whatever it is... but it's definitly not right :P
[06:35] <bofh`> yeah
[06:35] <Daveman> anyone here work for dell, or know someone who does, by any chance? or at l
[06:35] <bofh`> heh. anyweb does
[06:35] <Janger> ask anyweb
[06:35] <fluor_> anyways, i was wondering how Windows XP chooses incorrect DNS. no linux-clie
[06:35] <Janger> i might be able to afford a notebook soon.
[06:36] <Janger> with my new job.
[06:36] <Janger> which is nice.
[06:36] <Janger> but i think i just want to keep upgrading this thing
[06:36] <Janger> Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) Uptime: 2w 6d 16h 1m 49
[06:36] <bofh`> xp doesn't choose anything. either it's receiving that info in response from
[06:37] <Daveman> :o
[06:37] <Ta1oN> exactly
[06:37] <Daveman> anyweb, works for dell, really?
[06:37] <KrAzIe> yes
[06:37] <KrAzIe> he does.
[06:37] <OVERKILL> You might want to check to see if somebody has setup the LAN connection wi
[06:37] <Daveman> wow, sweet.
[06:38] <Ta1oN> yeah, fluor_, check your lan connection for any static settings... especially
[06:38] <Ta1oN> if you don't have entered any static information at all, then xp will use wha
[06:38] <Janger> that reminds me
[06:38] <Daveman> any idea when anyweb will be around?
[06:38] <Janger> i have to fix my cousins wireless card
[06:38] <Janger> his girlfriend i think broke the antennea
[06:38] <|P-I-M-P|> she broke my antenna too
[06:39] <Janger> it works for a second
[06:39] <Janger> then no connection at all
[06:39] <Janger> POS
[06:39] <|P-I-M-P|> she worked for a second
[06:39] <OVERKILL> internal card?
[06:39] <|P-I-M-P|> :P
[06:39] <Janger> yea
[06:39] <Janger> internal
[06:39] <bofh`> heh
[06:39] <Daveman> haha
[06:39] <|P-I-M-P|> works for a second at what strength
[06:39] <Janger> very low
[06:39] <|P-I-M-P|> probly the antenna then who knows though
[06:39] <OVERKILL> you have the cover off and make sure both of the wires (the black and the
[06:39] * Ta1oN is on his way home... cya
[06:39] <Janger> when i set it, it was always VERY GOOD
[06:39] <|P-I-M-P|> late Ta1oN
[06:39] <Daveman> wait, aren't you the same bofh`... from the other winxp chan?
[06:40] <hdpt00> Are there any free programs to run macros like run a program and press "X" w
[06:40] <bofh`> yes
[06:40] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[06:40] <Daveman> heh, friggin' ubiquitous bofh :P
[06:40] <Janger> bofh
[06:40] <|P-I-M-P|> haha
[06:40] <Daveman> then again, every net needs a bofh.
[06:40] <Janger> i went to my town fair yesterday
[06:40] <OVERKILL> Guess I should have asked if its a Desktop or Notebook Janger?
[06:41] <|P-I-M-P|> its a desktop
[06:41] <Janger> had like foot long corn dogs, and 2 corn patties pressed together with mozz.
[06:41] <OVERKILL> well, then what I asked above is irrelevent than :)
[06:41] <|P-I-M-P|> i can sence these things
[06:41] <Janger> Desktop Overkill
[06:41] <Daveman> eww
[06:41] <OVERKILL> Linksys card?
[06:41] <|P-I-M-P|> who uses wireless ina desktop
[06:41] <|P-I-M-P|> ewww is right
[06:41] <|P-I-M-P|> wire that shit up
[06:42] <Janger> Yes
[06:42] <Janger> linksys
[06:42] <Janger> Pimp
[06:42] <Janger> i cant.
[06:42] <|P-I-M-P|> Janger swap that shit
[06:42] <Janger> its across the hall.
[06:42] <|P-I-M-P|> ;)
[06:42] <CyberGeek> :-D
[06:42] <OVERKILL> With the big honkin' antenna on it?
[06:42] <|P-I-M-P|> go buy a new one
[06:42] <Janger> Yes
[06:42] <|P-I-M-P|> swap'em out
[06:42] <OVERKILL> She step on it or something?
[06:42] <Janger> I aint buying shit. his gf broke it.
[06:42] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[06:42] <|P-I-M-P|> i mean buy it swap out the cards and return it
[06:42] <Janger> She was moving the desktop to put in a new keyboard and broke the clip on it
[06:42] <Janger> that keeps the antenea straight up
[06:43] <|P-I-M-P|> women....
[06:43] <Janger> now it jsut hangs limp
[06:43] <Janger> yea.
[06:43] <|P-I-M-P|> haha
[06:43] <OVERKILL> ummmmmm, that doesn't sound good at all :)
[06:43] <Daveman> oh noes
[06:43] <Janger> But
[06:43] <Janger> it works for a second
[06:43] <Janger> then NO connection at all.
[06:43] <Daveman> give it some viagra or something?
[06:43] <OVERKILL> Yeah, the card could be damaged though now
[06:43] <Janger> daveman shut up
[06:43] <OVERKILL> internal short or some crap
[06:43] <Janger> Well
[06:44] <Janger> as you know theres that thin antean that runs through the thick black antean
[06:44] <Janger> im afradi that came out or something
[06:44] <OVERKILL> there would be some rather serious forces exerted on that rather small con
[06:44] <Daveman> oh speaking of broken wireless cards
[06:44] <OVERKILL> Yeah, but if the wire "came out" as long as it was still connected to the
[06:44] <Janger> its not the piece that connects to the actual card.
[06:45] <Janger> where you cna twist it off
[06:45] <Janger> its and the movement part.
[06:45] <OVERKILL> No, its like 1/2" from it right?
[06:45] <Janger> Yea.
[06:45] <Janger> ill fuck with it today.
[06:45] <Janger> id love to wire it.
[06:45] <Janger> but i cant.
[06:45] <OVERKILL> Yeah, but if there was enough force applied to that joint to break it, the
[06:45] <Janger> its across the hall and i aint running wires through the wallway
[06:45] <Daveman> does anyone know if there's any convenient way to flash the firmware on a c
[06:46] <Daveman> I mean I'd assume given the proper firmware and some sort of utility it sho
[06:46] <OVERKILL> might be a linux utility to do it
[06:47] <|P-I-M-P|> since when does XP auto update f/w's?
[06:47] <Janger> let me see if i can fix it now.
[06:47] <Daveman> haha
[06:47] <Janger> after my poopies.
[06:47] <Daveman> |P-I-M-P|, since a LONG time ago... apparently.
[06:47] <Daveman> retarded.
[06:47] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[06:48] <|P-I-M-P|> weird
[06:48] <|P-I-M-P|> does it grab'em from windows update?
[06:48] <Daveman> no!
[06:48] <Daveman> it attempts to "match the best one" from some nefarious linksys ftp :P
[06:49] <Daveman> but XP says OOH LOOK NEW HARDWARE or something to that affect, and kind of
[06:49] <OVERKILL> What card model is it?
[06:49] <bofh`> that's not XP then,t aht's the driver
[06:49] <bofh`> my advice is to replace th eshitty linksys card
[06:49] <|P-I-M-P|> lol wtf
[06:49] <|P-I-M-P|> yeah
[06:50] <|P-I-M-P|> xp doesnt do that
[06:50] <^-Lord-^> http://www.babeshorny4u.com/gallery/may/tereza.html today's winner. clas
[06:50] <Daveman> WPC11v3
[06:50] <OVERKILL> What he might be alluding to is that the driver in question is the WHQL "c
[06:50] <Daveman> heh, ^-Lord-^, always with the pr0n, huh? :P
[06:50] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[06:51] <|P-I-M-P|> speaking of which id liss never come back
[06:51] <^-Lord-^> NO SOUP FOR JOO!!!!
[06:51] <Daveman> OVERKILL, honestly I'm merely stating what I recall... this happened a long
[06:51] <|P-I-M-P|> :P
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> linksys has been disappointing lately
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> there routers seem to suck balls
[06:52] <^-Lord-^> no
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> i have to reset mine once every few weeks to get it back online
[06:52] <^-Lord-^> the srx200 and srx400 are quite decent
[06:52] <Daveman> And I have no idea if it had anything to do with the driver, but I do know
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> that's with the newest f/w
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> well i use the low end WRT54G
[06:52] <Daveman> haha basically
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> i dont need SRX
[06:52] <GenNMX> |P-I-M-P|: You have v5?
[06:52] <Daveman> then again, we can all thank netgear for their lovely exploit of late.
[06:52] <Daveman> meh, |P-I-M-P| it's cost-effective, I suppose
[06:52] <|P-I-M-P|> hmm i dont remember
[06:52] <OVERKILL> What version of FW is currently on it?
[06:53] <|P-I-M-P|> maybe v3
[06:53] <^-Lord-^> Daveman: what exploit?
[06:53] <GenNMX> |P-I-M-P|: When did you buy it?
[06:53] <|P-I-M-P|> hmm
[06:53] <|P-I-M-P|> 5 months ago maybe
[06:53] <Daveman> the now-classic, DCC exploit :P
[06:53] <|P-I-M-P|> around the holiday season
[06:53] <^-Lord-^> DCC Send "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[06:53] <^-Lord-^> that one?
[06:54] <OVERKILL> Daveman, check this out: http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/
[06:54] <GenNMX> |P-I-M-P|: I think you might have v5, the latest Linksys WRT45G model which
[06:54] <^-Lord-^> Pimp: I use the hyperWRT firmware in my wrt54g
[06:55] <^-Lord-^> works decent
[06:55] <GenNMX> WRT54g v5 is not compatible with any other third-party firmware.
[06:55] <|P-I-M-P|> hmm
[06:55] <|P-I-M-P|> why the non standard F/W?
[06:55] <^-Lord-^> he siad he had v3
[06:55] <|P-I-M-P|> no i dont know
[06:56] <|P-I-M-P|> let me go check
[06:56] <Daveman> oh
[06:56] <^-Lord-^> with the non standard, you can control radio power etc
[06:56] <OVERKILL> I'd say Cisco's attempt at working in the "Bargain" market with the linksy
[06:56] <Daveman> yeah
[06:56] <Daveman> fucking consumers :)
[06:56] <|P-I-M-P|> V5 :P
[06:56] <GenNMX> The rest can use OpenWRT, hyperWRT, etc. I bought a WRT54GL recently myself,
[06:57] <GenNMX> I put OpenWRT + Smoothwall on it. Mmmmm, firewall + QoS goodness!
[06:57] <Daveman> oh nice, I'll try that Overkill
[06:57] <^-Lord-^> I left my srx boxes as they came
[06:57] <^-Lord-^> they work great
[06:57] <OVERKILL> Indeed. I have an old 2924XL-EN managed switch here that is the epitome of
[06:57] <^-Lord-^> the 400 is impressive
[06:57] <Daveman> heh QoS goodness
[06:58] <Daveman> lame... just bypass all the bs, and mount a parabolic dish on your roof! \o
[06:58] <GenNMX> Smoothwall does QoS and ToS pretty well.
[06:58] <Daveman> bless all the neighbors with your wireless - hahaha
[06:58] <^-Lord-^> sounds to me like FAR too much for a soho
[06:58] <Daveman> GenNMX, it should :)
[06:58] <OVERKILL> Smoothwall is a wicked product.
[06:59] <^-Lord-^> daveman: if you can hack your way into my wireless, then you can have free
[06:59] <^-Lord-^> I use all the security I can
[06:59] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[06:59] <^-Lord-^> wpa2, no broadcast, mac checking
[06:59] <Daveman> heh
[06:59] <Daveman> who would bother?
[06:59] <|P-I-M-P|> i'm soo bad i still haven't gotten around to even setting up WEP
[06:59] <Daveman> I don't even think kiddies today would...
[06:59] <|P-I-M-P|> i'm so lazy
[06:59] <Daveman> screw that :P
[06:59] <^-Lord-^> don't use wep
[06:59] <^-Lord-^> use WPA
[06:59] <Daveman> just walk a few feet in another direction... surely their neighbors :P
[06:59] <|P-I-M-P|> WEP isnt too bad
[06:59] <^-Lord-^> and if possible, use wpa2
[07:00] <Daveman> haha
[07:00] <^-Lord-^> wep is sploitable
[07:00] <bofh`> wpa2 baby
[07:00] <|P-I-M-P|> how long does it ttake to hack WEP
[07:00] <|P-I-M-P|> hours and hours right
[07:00] <Daveman> blah
[07:00] <OVERKILL> WPA is MUCH better than WEP
[07:00] <|P-I-M-P|> im only worried bout drive by
[07:00] <^-Lord-^> no they have utils that can do it much quicker now
[07:00] <Daveman> haha
[07:00] <^-Lord-^> almsot like brute force
[07:00] <OVERKILL> Notebook + airsnort + a few mins with WEP = free internet :)
[07:00] <Daveman> drive-by, with a pringles can?
[07:00] <GenNMX> How do you setup Windows XP to connect to a SSID that's not broadcast?
[07:00] <|P-I-M-P|> yeah but brute force takes time
[07:00] <|P-I-M-P|> we call it wardriving Daveman
[07:00] <Daveman> ^-Lord-^, it's fun... those people who still think WEP is the shit :)
[07:00] <^-Lord-^> pringles cans suck
[07:01] <^-Lord-^> they're unidirectional
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[07:01] <Daveman> heh
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> WEP Is horrible but its the easiest to setup
[07:01] <^-Lord-^> no
[07:01] <Daveman> yeah so
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> and 99% of people wont hack it
[07:01] <^-Lord-^> WPA2 is WAY easier
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> does that work with B too?
[07:01] <Daveman> yep
[07:01] <^-Lord-^> yes
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> k
[07:01] <fluor_> when the computer boots up and gets NO DHCP, then it sets its dns domain to
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> i'll have to do that sometime then
[07:01] <|P-I-M-P|> actually i don thtink my PSP supports anything besides wep
[07:02] <^-Lord-^> ah
[07:02] <GenNMX> My home network can't use WEP or WPA because I'm too cheap to buy a decent w
[07:02] <Daveman> neat
[07:02] <^-Lord-^> then if it's psp you need, yes wep
[07:02] <OVERKILL> Whether it will work with B or not is very dependant on the driver for the
[07:02] <Daveman> haha nice
[07:02] <|P-I-M-P|> hmm
[07:02] <^-Lord-^> OVERKILL: true but most newer ones support it
[07:02] <|P-I-M-P|> couldn't I restrict it by mac addies too
[07:02] <^-Lord-^> yes
[07:02] <|P-I-M-P|> how's that approach
[07:02] <Daveman> alright so time to try and flash this crappy linksys card
[07:02] <^-Lord-^> mac checking is actually pretty effective
[07:02] <OVERKILL> Yeah, but if its an older Linksys card (one of the B cards) then it might
[07:02] <|P-I-M-P|> hmm
[07:02] <OVERKILL> MAC checking is a good route to go as well.
[07:02] <^-Lord-^> BUT, mac checking is high maintenance
[07:03] <Daveman> man just get rid of DHCP in the first place too :P
[07:03] <OVERKILL> yes
[07:03] <|P-I-M-P|> i c
[07:03] <^-Lord-^> sometimes it works so well, it locks you out too
[07:03] <|P-I-M-P|> screw that, WEP it is
[07:03] <OVERKILL> HAHAHAAH
[07:03] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[07:03] <Daveman> haha
[07:03] <OVERKILL> WEP+MAC checking is better than nothing :)
[07:03] <^-Lord-^> overkill is right
[07:03] <^-Lord-^> and turn the SSID broadcast off
[07:03] * Daveman rolls eyes
[07:03] <Daveman> so much for that huh
[07:03] <Daveman> I suppose so
[07:03] <OVERKILL> indeed :)
[07:03] <Daveman> haha yeah, unless you like sharing it with the kiddies?
[07:04] <^-Lord-^> if you don't broadcast then the neighbor kids can't hack onto you like my
[07:04] <Daveman> goddamn
[07:04] <^-Lord-^> he walks around with his psp and jumps on any unsecured network he can rea
[07:04] <OVERKILL> Well, airsnort can still find networks even without a "broadcast" because
[07:04] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[07:04] <|P-I-M-P|> wait u can turn SSID off?
[07:04] <Daveman> I need to now try to pry this 10/100 eth pcmcia card out of the slot :P
[07:05] <|P-I-M-P|> i didnt even know that
[07:05] <^-Lord-^> yes you can
[07:05] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[07:05] <Daveman> YES!
[07:05] <^-Lord-^> go to wireless, and then wireless security
[07:05] <|P-I-M-P|> then u have to know the name of the network to connect
[07:05] <^-Lord-^> you will see it in there
[07:05] <Daveman> geeze
[07:05] <^-Lord-^> yes
[07:05] <bofh`> wow, should take away your flags for that pimp. :)
[07:05] <^-Lord-^> then you have to know the name, and know how to spell it
[07:05] <|P-I-M-P|> that is probably the best security right there
[07:05] <Daveman> I guess this card has been in their so long, it's physically bonded to the
[07:05] <OVERKILL> HAHAHAHA
[07:05] <Daveman> no kidding :P
[07:05] <|P-I-M-P|> seriously make it some obsecure name and ur set
[07:05] <^-Lord-^> no
[07:05] <|P-I-M-P|> its like a password in itself
[07:06] <|P-I-M-P|> packet sniffing?
[07:06] <^-Lord-^> because like he said, there are sniffers that can detect them
[07:06] <|P-I-M-P|> ahh
[07:06] * Zkaala is now known as Zkal
[07:06] <OVERKILL> If all your card will support is B with not WPA, then do WEP with MAC bind
[07:06] <|P-I-M-P|> seriously im not worried bout crazy hackers
[07:06] <|P-I-M-P|> im worried bout people just looking for unsecured networks
[07:06] <^-Lord-^> but without the broadcast, then neighbors won't be able to casually see th
[07:07] <|P-I-M-P|> I like to encourage intruders :)
[07:07] <GenNMX> My neighbors are 60+ years old. Geriatric hackers in the suburbs?
[07:07] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[07:07] <^-Lord-^> check this out... I took one of those antenna boosters, and snapped it ont
[07:07] <|P-I-M-P|> u serious?
[07:07] <GenNMX> I need an antenna booster for my cell phone.
[07:07] * Ason is now known as Botis
[07:07] <|P-I-M-P|> those actually work?
[07:07] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[07:08] <^-Lord-^> man I got resumes, pictures, names, addresses ... all sorrts of shit from
[07:08] <OVERKILL> Yeah, they work well..........sometimes.
[07:08] <|P-I-M-P|> those $50 antennas from linksys?
[07:08] <^-Lord-^> yeah those work
[07:08] <|P-I-M-P|> orit im off to class u guys have a good day
[07:08] <^-Lord-^> but I used an aironet antenna
[07:08] <OVERKILL> SMC makes a directional "screw on" one for desktops and you'd be amazed th
[07:08] <^-Lord-^> but you need to get 7dB gain or more ... otherwise it's a waste
[07:09] <^-Lord-^> with the srx400 and mimo, no need for boosted antennae
[07:09] <OVERKILL> yar! hehe
[07:10] <Janger> ok that card is shot
[07:10] <Janger> i think theres also a piece thats moving that shouldnt
[07:10] <Janger> pwnt
[07:11] <^-Lord-^> when I am right up near it, I get 108mbps... when I move away, I keep a so
[07:12] <Janger> someone find me a really cheap wireless desktop card pci
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[07:13] <Daveman> hmm
[07:13] <Daveman> anyweb seems to be having a good time there... :\
[07:13] <Daveman> haha
[07:13] <Daveman> fucking wachovia :\
[07:13] <Daveman> thanks for the crappy news Lord...
[07:14] <Janger> cheapest wireless card i see is 40 bucks
[07:14] <Janger> does that sound about right
[07:14] <^-Lord-^> Janger: for a laptop?
[07:14] <Janger> desktop
[07:14] <^-Lord-^> nm
[07:14] <Janger> i have to go to an actual store.
[07:14] <^-Lord-^> yeah that sounds about right
[07:14] <^-Lord-^> I was going to ship you one
[07:14] <^-Lord-^> but I don't have any desktops
[07:14] <Daveman> :o
[07:15] <Daveman> heh, too bad
[07:15] <Daveman> though aren't those "usb key" versions rather inexpensive?
[07:15] <^-Lord-^> the USB ones suck
[07:15] <Daveman> though I'm not sure how great the quality is, of any aspect of it, in compa
[07:15] <Daveman> haha
[07:15] <^-Lord-^> I have an internal and pcmcia card here
[07:15] <Daveman> yeah esp. the third-party ones
[07:15] <^-Lord-^> one's a Dell
[07:15] <Daveman> which have no drivers...
[07:15] <^-Lord-^> not sure the brand on the other
[07:16] <Daveman> ah, okay
[07:16] <Daveman> yeah
[07:16] <Daveman> actually my friend's minipci one burned out or something about a year ago :
[07:16] <^-Lord-^> ah it's a TwinMOS
[07:16] <hefner> anyone using nero 7 ?
[07:16] <Janger> ok heres a good deal
[07:16] <Daveman> no idea why, I keep urging him to get it replaced or something
[07:16] <Janger> ill buy it for him...
[07:16] <Daveman> hefner, I have...
[07:16] <Janger> deal is he pays for all my beer this summer
[07:17] <Daveman> Janger, this is to replace... the one that got broken? :P
[07:17] <Janger> yea
[07:17] <Janger> its shot.
[07:17] <Daveman> hahaha holy shit
[07:17] <Janger> it cant even see my network
[07:17] <hefner> is it better than 6 coz i think its bloating and has lots of stuff i dont ne
[07:17] <Daveman> Janger, can anyone even afford that? ;)
[07:17] <Janger> it catches it barely. then no connection at all
[07:17] <Janger> dude my cousin is cheap.
[07:17] <Janger> super cheap.
[07:19] <Daveman> apparently
[07:19] <Janger> only thing around me is Best buy, circuit city and radio shack.
[07:19] <Daveman> eww :[
[07:19] <Daveman> worst buy!
[07:19] <Daveman> yeah too bad fry's doesn't exist on the east-coast...
[07:20] <Daveman> meh, order-everything-online ftw
[07:21] <Janger> wish i could.
[07:21] * Botis is now known as Ison
[07:22] <Janger> ill go to circuit city, i see the cheapest is 39.99
[07:23] <Janger> http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Hawking-Technology-Wireless-G-PCI-Adapter-HWP
[07:26] * bofh` pets his 9 dollar wifi card ;)
[07:27] <Janger> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50479028&pfp=B
[07:27] <Janger> got that one too
[07:28] * PotSmoke8 is now known as PotSmoke
[07:30] <Janger> sigh i dotn want to drive to farmingdale!
[07:30] <Janger> (20 mins) away
[07:32] <Daveman> :o
[07:32] <^-Lord-^> ok so poll
[07:32] <Daveman> more pr0n?
[07:32] <^-Lord-^> how many people have had to deal with the new wga nag?
[07:33] * Ison is now known as Tink
[07:34] <Daveman> Janger, where you at?
[07:35] <Janger> baysoye
[07:35] <Janger> long island
[07:35] <Janger> bayshore
[07:35] <Daveman> ah
[07:35] <Daveman> cool
[07:36] <Janger> alright well fuggit, i gotta get a mothers day card, go to tackle place and
[07:38] <Daveman> heh
[07:38] <Daveman> janger, why such the long drive? :/
[07:38] <Daveman> anyway, I thought you were implying the "mother's day card" was going to be
[07:39] <Daveman> haha wouldn't that be amusing...
[07:39] <[M]ax> Lord not me
[07:42] * _jze is now known as jze
[07:42] * Janger slaps Daveman around a bit with a large trout
[07:45] <Daveman> oh noes?!
[07:45] <Daveman> eww, get your mIRC cooties away from me :P
[07:46] <Daveman> oh and to chance to a different topic anyone care to speculate on cellphone
[08:02] * Tink is now known as Kizi
[08:37] * Kizi is now known as Erro
[08:42] <KayJ> is it possible to boot windowxp form a Compactflash in a PCMCIA-slot?
[08:42] <^-Lord-^> no
[08:42] <^-Lord-^> NEXT!
[08:42] <KayJ> ahm, why?
[08:42] <^-Lord-^> is your pcmcia / compact flash bootable?
[08:43] <KayJ> i dont think it is, lol
[08:43] <^-Lord-^> ok then
[08:43] <KayJ> though i might check in the bios of my lappy...
[08:43] <^-Lord-^> not only that, but there has to be a location for dynamic files to be crea
[08:43] <^-Lord-^> hold
[08:43] <KayJ> true...
[08:43] <KayJ> was a good idea though
[08:44] <ntoskrnl> 4gb CF card should do it tho, assuming the bios supports boot from the dev
[08:51] * Erro is now known as Phaze
[08:57] * FckLord is now known as ^-Lord-^
[08:58] <illv> what do you guys think is better, amd dual core or intel dual core?
[09:00] <bofh`> intel
[09:01] <ntoskrnl> define 'better' in terms of something so complex?
[09:03] * Phaze is now known as Ason
[09:04] <illv> haha
[09:04] <^-Lord-^> what is heavier, 100 pounds of rocks, or 100 pounds of feathers?
[09:06] <ntoskrnl> if one is resting on top of the other, the lower one
[09:07] <illv> well, just all around, value, speed, etc.
[09:08] <^-Lord-^> anyone else getting spammed?
[09:08] <^-Lord-^> patch your mirc?
[09:25] <^-Lord-^> !unban *!*@silenceisdefeat.org
[09:25] <^-Lord-^> !unban #windowsxp *!*@silenceisdefeat.org
[09:25] <^-Lord-^> bah fuckit
[09:26] <[M]ax> let the bots do it
[09:26] <bofh`> heh
[09:32] * Ason is now known as Kudos
[09:45] <Janger> alright well i got a new network card and its back in business
[09:50] <Unskill3d> hi! i get sometimes a "Hardware Malfunction - Please call your hardware v
[09:52] <Janger> um
[09:52] <Janger> have you recently added new hardware?
[09:54] <Janger> cool
[09:54] <Unskill3d> nope. on the MS bulletin they write it could be the memory but i checked
[09:54] <Janger> whats the hell is the point of memtest
[09:54] <Janger> it takes forever
[09:54] <Janger> just take 1 ram out
[09:54] <Janger> and see if it occurs again
[09:54] <Janger> and same with the other
[09:54] <port> lazyness
[09:55] <Janger> and see if it continues
[09:56] <Janger> so it seems port, so it seems
[09:56] <Unskill3d> yes i think ill do it. i have 3 different rams on my board. maybe it has
[09:56] <Unskill3d> it just sucks that the bluescreen comes very randomly.
[09:58] <Janger> yes
[09:59] <Janger> it does.
[10:03] <Unskill3d> but where is this event log viewer?
[10:03] <Janger> admin tools
[10:04] <Unskill3d> k thx got it
[10:07] <[Kodiak]> hello
[10:07] * Kudos is now known as Matie
[10:33] * Hunt4meX is now known as Hunt4m3x
[10:33] * Matie is now known as Tink
[11:02] * Tink is now known as Erro
[11:37] * Erro is now known as Botis
[11:44] * [M]ax changes topic to 'Welcome to #WindowsXP | learning point and click since 1092bc'
[11:51] * Botis is now known as Phaze
[11:52] <ManKind> yup
[12:00] <KUjayhawx> Is there Wildpacket compatible driver that works with Motorola Wireless P
[12:01] <Mic^Fly> !g driver WPCI810G
[12:01] <Ayudante> Support and Downloads @ http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/support/de
[12:01] <KUjayhawx> I have the driver
[12:01] <Mic^Fly> ive never heard of wildpacket
[12:02] <KUjayhawx> but im lookin for the WildPacket Driver that works with my card
[12:02] <Mic^Fly> another driver
[12:03] <^-Lord-^> !g wildpacket driver for Motorola Wireless PCI Adapter WPCI810G
[12:03] <Ayudante> Sorry, no search results were found.
[12:03] <Mic^Fly> !g driver wildpacket
[12:03] <Ayudante> Wireless LAN Tools & Software (General) @ http://www.wardrive.net/general/
[12:03] <Mic^Fly> thats about the best i think we can do for ya
[12:03] * Phaze is now known as Ason
[12:04] <KUjayhawx> Thanks for trying
[12:04] <Mic^Fly> sure
[12:09] <^-Lord-^> Mic^Fly: any idea when we'll have access to the bots again?
[12:10] <[M]ax> lord, those who have access know about it ;)
[12:10] <^-Lord-^> ok so my next question is why I no longer have access
[12:11] <[M]ax> #winxpops
[12:19] <knoppix_> hi
[12:19] <knoppix_> how can i remove viruses on my winxp
[12:19] <knoppix_> there is one task IEXPLORE.EXE is always active even when i kill the tas
[12:22] <El_Guapo> uh iexplore.exe is internet explorer
[12:22] <El_Guapo> u might need that
[12:22] <^-Lord-^> ROFL
[12:22] <knoppix_> yeah i know
[12:22] <El_Guapo> heh
[12:22] <knoppix_> but these one is not intgernet explorer
[12:22] <[M]ax> browser hijack
[12:22] <knoppix_> how can i remove that?
[12:22] <^-Lord-^> then you need to identify the hijacker in order to better remove it
[12:22] <knoppix_> its appear even in the safe mode
[12:23] <El_Guapo> spyware doctor should kill it
[12:23] <knoppix_> really?
[12:23] <El_Guapo> thats a solid spyware app
[12:23] <knoppix_> you have experiencee with that
[12:23] <El_Guapo> some
[12:23] <knoppix_> i used lavasoft ad aware
[12:23] <knoppix_> but its still active
[12:24] <El_Guapo> guess u need to try something else
[12:24] <^-Lord-^> bartpe
[12:26] <knoppix_> ok thank you guys for help
[12:26] <knoppix_> have a nice day
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[12:29] <^-Lord-^> has anyone in her ever tried rosetta stone software for language learning
[12:30] <bofh`> buck fiddy
[12:30] <bofh`> not personally, but those I know of who have love it, lord
[12:30] <^-Lord-^> cool. gonna try my hand at French now
[12:31] <mega`> can i ask a technical question....
[12:31] <^-Lord-^> trying to find the language I like most. so far I've done italian, spanis
[12:31] <^-Lord-^> ?? ask
[12:31] <CyberGeek> ask == If you have a question, just ask it. Don't ask if you can ask a qu
[12:32] <mega`> does genuine office apply to office xp too?
[12:32] * Ason is now known as Botis
[12:34] <^-Lord-^> office xp can't be genuine office?
[12:34] <^-Lord-^> why are you asking?
[12:34] <^-Lord-^> trying to figure out which product you can warez without the nags?
[12:35] <`trash`> lol
[12:35] <^-Lord-^> damn... my mangina is so sore
[12:36] <mega`> i'm not into warez really...
[12:37] <mega`> but i have friends that have warezed office
[12:37] <port> hello people
[12:38] <bofh`> HELLO DR. NICK!
[12:42] <^-Lord-^> man I need new codec
[12:42] <^-Lord-^> s
[12:42] <^-Lord-^> friggin avi's not rolling
[12:42] <mega`> is there a way to convince people to use genuine software?
[12:43] <^-Lord-^> yes, put a gun to their head
[12:43] <^-Lord-^> NEXT!!!
[12:44] <^-Lord-^> I hate it when I can't view my porn
[12:45] <bofh`> heh
[12:45] <bofh`> got my new dvd player that plays avi now. vhaen't tested it with any port ye
[13:06] <mcneeber> *waits*
[13:06] <roto> *farts*
[13:07] <mcneeber> Ah, i see that the autoban has been lifted.
[13:07] <mcneeber> Thank you kind sirs.
[13:07] * Botis is now known as Kizi
[13:10] <KUjayhawx> anyone familiar with WEP cracking?
[13:10] <roto> *gasp*! hackers!
[13:10] <roto> what about it?
[13:11] <Mic^Fly> if your asking KUjayhawx .. its way past your knowledge
[13:12] <mcneeber> Mic^fly, long time no see. Still going to the poker game tonight?
[13:12] <Mic^Fly> :) mcneeber ... i don't remember you
[13:12] <CyberGeek> :-p
[13:12] <Shadowc4t> mcneeber: will you at least not try and get banned this time?
[13:12] <roto> poker in the rear, liquor up front
[13:21] * Kizi is now known as Opis
[13:33] * Opis is now known as Ason
[13:53] <Whooo> i have a layout created in word 2003 and it doesn't show up in print preview
[13:55] <eth0_> hi, I've just reinstalled windows from the service pack, but it hasn't instal
[13:55] <eth0_> primarily install office
[13:56] <bofh`> uh, put office cd in drive, run setup.exe
[13:56] <eth0_> ohh, I thought that it would of been in the service pack cd
[13:56] <bofh`> no
[13:57] <eth0_> I dunno what I've done with the other CD heh
[13:57] <eth0_> :(
[14:02] * Ason is now known as Botis
[14:03] * Hunt4meX is now known as Hunt4m3x
[14:26] * Hunt4meX is now known as Hunt4m3x
[14:29] <ManKind> yup
[14:29] <corey> if i have a blank entry in msconfig is it safe to uncheck it?
[14:30] <ManKind> better to hunt down the entry, but you should be safe to kill it from there
[14:30] <corey> how can i hunt it down if its blank?
[14:30] <ManKind> hklm\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\run
[14:31] <corey> it says its in HKCU
[14:31] <ManKind> then go to the location it refers to
[14:31] <corey> ahh
[14:31] <corey> its steam
[14:31] <corey> that bastard
[14:32] <roto> damn steam
[14:32] <ManKind> SPSv3
[14:32] <corey> is there a good program to help boost performance in startup/shutdown?
[14:33] <ManKind> corey remove programs you dont use, defrag page file, defrag c: drive,
[14:33] <ManKind> you can use bootvis to identify where particular issues are slowing you dow
[14:33] <ManKind> is there a certain point that it lags in particular?
[14:33] <corey> yea
[14:33] <corey> "Windows is starting up" and "Windows is shutting down"
[14:34] <corey> BootVis 1.3.37 :o
[14:37] * Botis is now known as Phaze
[14:38] <corey> ill try this out, thanks for the help
[14:44] * GoKyu|weg is now known as GoKyu
[14:44] <Mr> any web designers in here
[14:44] <[M]ax> yeah
[14:44] <Mr> Paying for a designer to compete on www.theultimatedesigner.com
[14:44] <Mr> Can someone help?
[14:45] <blackdevl> www.rentacoder.com
[14:45] <[M]ax> what £51?
[14:45] <[M]ax> i can build sites for more money that then
[14:45] <[M]ax> then that**
[14:45] <[M]ax> :P
[14:46] <Mr> look at the prizes
[14:46] <[M]ax> Mr are you thinking of "passing off" someone elses work for your own?
[14:46] <[M]ax> Mr i own a web hosting company
[14:46] <blackdevl> prizes?
[14:46] <blackdevl> dude
[14:46] <Mr> lol, no its a competition
[14:46] <blackdevl> its 94 dollars
[14:46] <Mr> Max Me 2,
[14:46] <blackdevl> thats shit
[14:46] <Romario> max url to your hosting company?
[14:46] <Mr> look at the prizes
[14:46] <blackdevl> max: you do any email hosting?
[14:46] <[M]ax> blackdevl yeah
[14:46] <blackdevl> got any problems with large amounts of email
[14:47] <[M]ax> Romario ask Darryl if i own a hosting company
[14:47] <[M]ax> msn blackdevl
[14:47] <Mr> just post your url
[14:47] <bofh`> I own a hosting company IN MY PANTS!
[14:47] <Romario> Max, I asked for the URL - I am not questioning if you own one or not.
[14:47] <Romario> I believe you- That΄s why I asked ;)
[14:48] <blackdevl> www.britbastard.co.uk
[14:48] <Mr> there is a competition on at the moment for designers to compete in mini tasks,
[14:48] <Romario> yeah what design agency?
[14:49] <ManKind> oh ok
[14:49] <Mr> look on the site, ive been paid to promote the site.
[14:49] <ManKind> !quick Mr no here
[14:49] <blackdevl> no here?
[14:49] <blackdevl> no english here obiously
[14:49] <bofh`> heh
[14:49] <ManKind> no henglish
[14:49] <Romario> looks pretty Lame
[14:49] <blackdevl> Miss: welcome back
[14:50] <ManKind> wb Ms
[14:50] <ManKind> Ms please dont spam here
[14:50] <Romario> lol Ms.
[14:50] <Romario> Mister Lady
[14:50] <Shadowc4t> if you spam that again you'll become my personal kicktoy for the evening
[14:50] <Shadowc4t> :)
[14:50] <Shadowc4t> and later you'll become ^-Lord-^'s kicktoy
[14:51] * Phaze is now known as Kizi
[14:52] <RoachClip> !pkban Mr
[14:52] <^-Lord-^> the pkban hasn't been working
[14:52] <^-Lord-^> have to kban
[14:52] <Mr> so no designers?
[14:52] <^-Lord-^> !kban Mr nope
[14:52] <RoachClip> !kban Mr
[14:52] <Romario> lol
[14:52] <bofh`> why don't you try in #webdesign
[14:52] <blackdevl> design deez nuts
[14:52] <bofh`> man I'm ready for a nap
[14:52] <Romario> deez nuts
[14:54] <^-Lord-^> check you all later
[14:55] <^-Lord-^> time to go
[14:55] <Numb-Brrr> Can someone tell me if you can upgrade xp pro 32 bit to xp pro 64 bit? ..
[14:55] <blackdevl> clean
[14:55] <Numb-Brrr> Thanks black, are you sure?
[14:55] <Shadowc4t> how can you upgrade from 32 to 64 bit
[14:55] <Numb-Brrr> That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure.
[14:56] <Shadowc4t> a 64bit binary won't even execute in a 32-bit environment
[14:56] <blackdevl> yeah
[14:56] <blackdevl> its a fresh install
[14:56] <Numb-Brrr> cool, thanks
[14:57] <ManKind> np
[15:03] * Kizi is now known as Ason
[15:04] <[Katami]> Does anybody have anything to make ringtones with?
[15:04] <blackdevl> hi
[15:04] <blackdevl> depends on phone
[15:04] <[Katami]> Hi
[15:04] <[Katami]> Motorola V3 razr
[15:04] <blackdevl> use a mp3
[15:05] <[Katami]> yeah mp3
[15:05] <blackdevl> yeah
[15:05] <blackdevl> what do you need then a mp3 editor?
[15:05] <[Katami]> Can you hook me up?
[15:05] <[Katami]> I guess I dunno
[15:05] <[Katami]> Just something to cut clips out of mp3s
[15:05] <[Katami]> I suppose and to downsample if needed
[15:05] <blackdevl> i think nero has something to do it
[15:06] <blackdevl> yeah nero wave editor
[15:07] <[Katami]> I dnt have nero installed though =(
[15:07] <blackdevl> download it
[15:07] <blackdevl> and crack it
[15:07] <blackdevl> easiest way
[15:07] <[M]ax> ?? warez
[15:07] <CyberGeek> warez == We do not support Warez and/or Piracy in any shape or form. This
[15:08] <Shadowc4t> Soundforge
[15:08] <blackdevl> yeah
[15:08] <blackdevl> i got sf but its like 200 mb
[15:08] <blackdevl> it would take forever to send
[15:32] * Ason is now known as Kizi
[15:56] <blackdevl> anyone here know vb.net?
[15:56] <blackdevl> tring to get a grid, wanna know if you do it without the datagrid or not
[15:56] <blackdevl> i just want a grid there and i want my app to put info into it, not from
[15:57] <[M]ax> blackdevl ask comatosis
[15:58] <blackdevl> whos that
[15:58] <[M]ax> segmental
[15:58] <blackdevl> oh
[15:58] <blackdevl> is he on?
[16:01] <Shadowc4t> hah comatosis
[16:02] <blackdevl> cumontoes
[16:02] <Janger> sup
[16:03] <Janger> hahahah
[16:04] <chemical> BOOBIES!!
[16:04] <Janger> no
[16:05] <Janger> hey blackdevl
[16:06] <blackdevl> sup dude
[16:06] <Janger> np blackpiehole
[16:07] <blackdevl> lol
[16:07] <inthegame> hey, did anybody else get an xbox for 30$, plasma tv for 250$ or other el
[16:07] * Kizi is now known as Phaze
[16:07] <blackdevl> !kban inthegame no
[16:11] <Daveman> sup Janger
[16:11] <Daveman> [Katami], you could use bitpim or something. It'll do it. :P
[16:21] * Phaze is now known as Ison
[16:26] <kibsa> guys i have here a dir with movie files, how can i make it to show the image
[16:26] <kibsa> the view - > thumbnail wont do it
[16:32] <blackdevl> !g movie thumbnail +xp
[16:32] <Ayudante> XP Media Center Edition 2005: Online S @ http://www.microsoft.com/windowsx
[16:32] <blackdevl> hm
[16:32] <blackdevl> it does it for me all the time
[16:33] * Ison is now known as Erro
[16:34] <kibsa> dunno
[16:34] <kibsa> wont do it here
[16:35] <[Katami]> kibsa if you have the right codecs installed for the media it will
[16:35] <kibsa> i am using ffdshow for codecs..
[16:42] <port> bofh`
[16:51] <Janger> Uptime: 3 weeks 2 hours 14 minutes 33 seconds
[16:51] <phatkap> anyone have a decent WGA hack?
[16:51] <Janger> no warez
[16:51] <phatkap> ic
[16:52] <Janger> do you REALLY see though?
[16:52] <phatkap> no really, no know?
[16:52] <Shadowc4t> continue asking and you'll become my kicktoy
[16:52] <Shadowc4t> very simple
[16:52] <phatkap> go for it
[16:52] <Janger> lol
[16:52] <phatkap> save me the quit
[16:53] <[Katami]> !g motorola v3 razr flash pack
[16:53] <Ayudante> MotoX.us: Motorola Modding... all that @ http://motox.us/ | Motorola V3 RA
[16:59] <Janger> !images katami
[16:59] <Ayudante> http://gyaogyao.hp.infoseek.co.jp/freecom/omoide1/katami.JPG | http://www.
[17:00] * S|imey is now known as Vern
[17:02] * Vern is now known as S|imey
[17:02] * Erro is now known as Phaze
[17:06] <[Katami]> Does anybody here have rsd
[17:06] <[Katami]> ?
[17:07] <blackdevl> std's? no
[17:07] <[Katami]> rsd ...
[17:07] <[Katami]> not std
[17:07] <[Katami]> rsd is a flash tool for phone
[17:07] <blackdevl> never heard of it
[17:07] <bofh``> sure several in here have stds
[17:08] <ManKind> blackdevl those are the things your boyfriend refers to as crabs
[17:08] <[Katami]> :/
[17:08] <blackdevl> loooooooooooooooooooooooool
[17:08] <[Katami]> !google rsd
[17:09] <blackdevl> !g rsd
[17:09] <Ayudante> Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Associati @ http://www.rsds.org/ | American R
[17:09] <[Katami]> ...
[17:09] <[Katami]> !g motorola rsd
[17:09] <Ayudante> v3 won't connect to the computer - Moto @ http://forums.mobiledia.com/topi
[17:13] <[Katami]> I think I found it
[17:22] <[M]ax> .wz
[17:22] <Ayudante> It's 1:22 AM BST in Birmingham, United Kingdom
[17:22] * sirius[Te is now known as [sirius]
[17:22] <[M]ax> hrm...
[17:22] <[M]ax> .wz
[17:23] <Ayudante> Birmingham, United Kingdom -- 1:23 AM BST Updated: 12:50 AM BST
[17:23] <Ayudante> Temp: 52F/11C Humidity: 94%
[17:23] <Ayudante> Conditions: Partly Cloudy Wind: (North) 6mph/10kmh
[17:23] <Ayudante> Sunrise: 5:21 AM BST Sunset: 8:46 PM BST
[17:23] <ManKind> .wz
[17:23] <Ayudante> Seattle, Washington -- 5:23 PM PDT Updated: 5:13 PM PDT
[17:23] <Ayudante> Temp: 58.3 F Humidity: 40%
[17:23] <Ayudante> Conditions: Mostly Cloudy Wind: (NNW) 2.0 mph
[17:23] <Ayudante> Sunrise: 5:41 AM PDT Sunset: 8:31 PM PDT
[17:23] <ntoskrnl> 11C, omfg
[17:23] * [sirius] is now known as sirius
[17:24] <[Katami]> One of the menus on my phone doesn't work right
[17:24] <[Katami]> I'm thinking its because of the flex I put on my phone but i'm not sure, a
[17:30] <jksd> hi, disk manager won't let me set an active partition, anyone know why that mi
[17:33] <ManKind> you are currently using an active partition?
[17:34] <jksd> yeah
[17:34] <bholland> i'm trying out snapstream and it's asking for digital or analog cable, i h
[17:36] <jksd> ManKind: it's currently set as my windows drive, but I want to change it to li
[17:37] <Phiber0pt> you can't change the active parition in the OS..
[17:37] <Janger> go to Disk Jangerger
[17:37] <Phiber0pt> you need to bootup to recovery console or use a dos boot disk and then FD
[17:37] <Phiber0pt> or get a OS/Boot Manager
[17:37] <jksd> Phiber0pt: ahh, thankyou very much
[17:37] * Phaze is now known as Matie
[17:38] <jksd> Phiber0pt: are there any free boot managers?
[17:38] <Phiber0pt> hmmm.. sure.. do I know of any... nope
[17:38] <Phiber0pt> someone might
[17:40] * [[[[[Jang is now known as Janger_
[17:40] <Janger_> pfft
[17:40] <Janger> pfft
[17:41] <Janger> ok we got 2 bofh, 2 dylix, 2 jangers, 2 nerd x
[17:42] <[M]ax> Janger, only you, rap, dylix and Darryl have clones in here
[17:43] <Janger> who said anything abotu clones
[17:44] <bofh``> mine aren't clones, different hosts
[17:44] <bofh``> :P
[17:45] <jksd> hi, I've just installed a boot manager, how do I get rid of it?
[17:45] <jksd> it says to create an uninstall disk, put a floppy in, but I have no floppy dri
[17:46] <factor_> I reinstalled windows, when I try to do a windows update IE keeps saying pa
[17:47] <Janger> format C:
[17:47] <factor_> hehe
[17:47] <factor_> ie loads other pages but not windows update :(
[17:47] * Janger_ is now known as FormatC
[17:48] <TheMetrix> factor check you date and time on the computer, if they are off windows u
[17:49] <TheMetrix> and if all else fails Format C /u
[17:49] <factor_> the time and date are correct
[17:49] <factor_> I tried already
[17:49] <factor_> hehe
[17:49] <factor_> everytime I try to update doesn't work
[17:49] <Mic^Fly> factor its just an old link... google for the newer one
[17:49] <factor_> IE says "page cannot be displayed"
[17:49] <factor_> Mic^Fly: tried that
[17:49] <Mic^Fly> hang on ill do it for ya
[17:49] <TheMetrix> do you have popup blocker enablesd?
[17:49] <TheMetrix> do you have Windows Firewall enabled?
[17:50] <TheMetrix> if so shut them off
[17:50] <factor_> I shut off the firewall
[17:50] <Mic^Fly> http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us
[17:50] <Mic^Fly> go there factor_
[17:50] <TheMetrix> sup Mic
[17:50] <Mic^Fly> hi ole man... how ya doing
[17:50] <[M]ax> hey metrix
[17:50] <TheMetrix> tired today, worked 13 hours
[17:50] <TheMetrix> sup Max
[17:50] <Mic^Fly> wow... long time at the wheel
[17:51] <Mic^Fly> you sound as bad as Max
[17:51] <TheMetrix> yup
[17:51] <factor_> TheMetrix: I tried doing updates through automatic update.. it finds the up
[17:51] <factor_> The page cannot be displayed
[17:51] * Matie is now known as Kizi
[17:52] <TheMetrix> humm
[17:54] <[M]ax> metrix see pm
[17:59] <Janger> i dont think my pc has ever been up this long
[18:03] * Kizi is now known as Botis
[18:06] <factor_> k
[18:06] <factor_> I have no idea why it's giving me this
[18:06] <factor_> :(
[18:08] <Janger> cuase your not using a legit copy
[18:08] <Janger> eod
[18:09] <factor_> yeah I am
[18:09] <factor_> heh
[18:09] <factor_> I could update before I formatted
[18:09] <factor_> IE could find the site
[18:09] <factor_> now it can't
[18:10] <Janger> try again
[18:10] <Janger> and again
[18:16] <factor_> hmm
[18:32] * Botis is now known as Kizi
[18:40] <[M]ax> Janger, i just setup sc+sc_linuxamp
[18:41] <[M]ax> real fun experiance
[19:00] <Janger> what max
[19:01] <[M]ax> ever setup shoutcast+player on linux via ssh?
[19:01] <[M]ax> just to play the mp3s on the server
[19:01] <Janger> my shoutcast is up now
[19:01] <Janger> but no, not with linux
[19:02] <[M]ax> it killed my server twice
[19:02] <[M]ax> lol
[19:02] <[M]ax> running nice now though
[19:04] <chemical> David Blaine didn't hold his breath for 9 minutes. :(
[19:07] <bofh``> david blaine is gay, and no one cares
[19:07] * Kizi is now known as Opis
[19:10] <roto> be careful he can hear you talk
[19:10] <roto> he does voodo
[19:10] <roto> voodoo*
[19:17] <no-sweat> hy
[19:19] <factor_> k
[19:19] <factor_> formatting did crap
[19:19] <factor_> IE still won't work for windows update :(
[19:20] <[M]ax> are you using an "illegal" version of windows?
[19:20] <factor_> nope
[19:20] <factor_> got the box infront of me
[19:20] <factor_> hmm
[19:20] <bofh``> did you do something stupid like disable services?
[19:21] <databits> hey whats up everyone
[19:21] * Opis is now known as Ison
[19:21] <factor_> bofh`: nope, just installed video card drivers and network card
[19:22] <factor_> then tried updating
[19:22] <factor_> I disabled automatic update
[19:22] <Mic^Fly> factor if i thought about it and had paid good money for your xp OS.. i'd g
[19:22] <databits> hey does anyone know what might cause my files when unextracting them to b
[19:22] <databits> it is a new sata harddrive i just installed
[19:22] <factor_> Mic^Fly: I'm thinking about calling them soon too
[19:23] <databits> I can tell when I unrar a file on the drive it is lagy
[19:23] <databits> laggy
[19:23] <Mic^Fly> don't wait do it now ...
[19:23] <factor_> gotta get tech support #
[19:23] <factor_> hold
[19:23] <no-sweat> guys my laptop shipped today
[19:23] <no-sweat> i thought you'd all like to know that
[19:23] <no-sweat> :pppp
[19:23] <databits> what kind of laptop ?
[19:25] <factor_> Mic^Fly: you gotta pay apparently for support
[19:25] <blackdevl> i thought install help was free
[19:25] <factor_> blackdevl: not install support, it's windows update thats not working
[19:26] <blackdevl> sorry, i thought you installed and it fucked up your video card
[19:26] <blackdevl> what happened
[19:26] <factor_> "cannot display page"
[19:26] <[M]ax> factor_ not if you just got there project
[19:26] <[M]ax> factor_ you are paying for a product
[19:27] <factor_> ahh k
[19:27] <[M]ax> and under trade descriptions if it does not do the job its intended to do
[19:27] <factor_> oh k
[19:27] <blackdevl> wait
[19:27] <blackdevl> explain it again please factor
[19:27] <[M]ax> its sold under false advertising
[19:27] <databits> roll back your driver man
[19:27] <factor_> blackdevl: I try to do windows update, ie says "The page cannot be displaye
[19:27] <blackdevl> oh
[19:27] <blackdevl> ok
[19:27] <blackdevl> any other site works
[19:28] <factor_> yup
[19:28] <blackdevl> just not windows update?
[19:28] <[M]ax> which means your entitled to a full refund if you choose it
[19:28] <factor_> just not windows update
[19:28] <databits> what browser are you using man ?
[19:28] <blackdevl> ok
[19:28] <blackdevl> try firefox
[19:28] <blackdevl> see if the same thing occurs
[19:28] <blackdevl> if it doesnt
[19:28] <yayo> lol
[19:28] <yayo> firefox wont do windows update
[19:28] <[M]ax> firefox doesnt work with windowsupdate
[19:28] <blackdevl> get a sniffer and see what it does
[19:28] <databits> ya firefox wont do it
[19:28] <blackdevl> doesnt matter
[19:28] <blackdevl> if it gets to the page
[19:28] <blackdevl> then that atleast rules that out
[19:28] <Janger> blackdevl
[19:28] <[M]ax> maybe a broken link
[19:28] <blackdevl> wasnt saying to do updates off firefox
[19:28] <Janger> you CAN do it with firefox
[19:28] <[M]ax> let me get the ip
[19:28] <blackdevl> you people are dumb
[19:28] <yayo> blackdevl: it doesnt direct you to same site then
[19:29] <blackdevl> (22:29:08) dns: resolved (update.microsoft.com) to (207.46.250.185)
[19:29] <blackdevl> (22:29:08) dns: resolved (update.microsoft.com) to (207.46.253.157)
[19:29] <blackdevl> (22:29:08) dns: resolved (update.microsoft.com) to (207.46.199.93)
[19:29] <[M]ax> Janger, i know there is a site for it but it doesnt fill me with joy using it
[19:29] <yayo> yah
[19:29] <yayo> it looks at your headers
[19:29] <[M]ax> lol
[19:29] <yayo> and redirects
[19:29] <factor_> blackdevl: I get ip, just doens't load
[19:29] <factor_> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
[19:29] <blackdevl> ok
[19:29] <blackdevl> that wasnt what i was asking
[19:29] <yayo> factor_ u reset your security/privacy settings in IE?
[19:29] <Janger> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us
[19:29] <yayo> turn firewalls off
[19:30] <factor_> yayo: yup, no firewall
[19:30] <factor_> no service packs installed
[19:30] <blackdevl> get firefox and goto http://update.microsoft.com/
[19:30] <blackdevl> and see if it redirects you to the error page
[19:30] <factor_> k
[19:30] <blackdevl> as opposed to that general IE error
[19:30] <Mic^Fly> could be your just not being relayed.. this is what i gave you the first ti
[19:30] <Mic^Fly> that is where the relay takes you
[19:31] <factor_> doesn't seem to be loading
[19:31] <factor_> Mic^Fly: that doesn't seem to be laoding :(
[19:31] <Janger> factor
[19:31] <Janger> reoot
[19:31] <Janger> reboot
[19:31] <Janger> OR turn automatic updates on
[19:31] <Mic^Fly> check your security settings for your browser
[19:31] <factor_> Mic^Fly: anything specific?
[19:32] <Mic^Fly> whatever the defualts are
[19:32] <factor_> it's at medium
[19:33] <factor_> blackdevl: looks like firefox doesn't work with it either
[19:33] <factor_> interesting
[19:33] <blackdevl> what does FF say?
[19:33] <blackdevl> just the cannot find server error?
[19:33] <factor_> still says "connecting"
[19:33] <blackdevl> ok
[19:33] <factor_> still waiting
[19:33] <blackdevl> get ethereal and sniff it
[19:33] <factor_> usually pages load quick
[19:33] <blackdevl> that might show you something thats going on
[19:33] * Ison is now known as Erro
[19:36] <factor_> k
[19:36] <factor_> on phone
[19:36] <factor_> one sec
[19:37] <no-sweat> im sry
[19:37] <no-sweat> my lappy
[19:37] <no-sweat> dell inspiron e1404
[19:37] <no-sweat> dell inspiron e1405*
[19:37] <no-sweat> i always mistype that
[19:37] <Darthmike> its purdy
[19:38] <no-sweat> tis?>
[19:39] <^_Lord_^> credit card company trying to give us a dell inspiron
[19:40] <Darthmike> well the inspiron 6000 is sexy
[19:40] <Darthmike> reminds me of my palm pilot
[19:40] <Darthmike> ^_Lord_^ : what happened to your truck?
[19:41] <^_Lord_^> so far I got two estimates on it
[19:41] <^_Lord_^> and I am deep in the middle of the lemon procedure
[19:41] <Darthmike> lol
[19:41] <^_Lord_^> so before we do anything else, we're waiting to hear back from toyota
[19:41] <Darthmike> how high are the estimates to fix the dents in the truck?
[19:41] <^_Lord_^> to see if they're going ot buy it back
[19:41] <Darthmike> oh wow
[19:42] <Darthmike> its a defective toyota?
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> they range from $2000 to $3300
[19:42] <Darthmike> im shocked
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> yes
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> so was I
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> I own three of them
[19:42] <Darthmike> wow i always held toyota in high regard
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> if they buy it back, it's all good.. I'll just buy another one
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> I still do
[19:42] <Darthmike> lol
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> even the space shuttle had problems
[19:42] <Darthmike> whats the issue with this one?>
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> bad brakes
[19:42] <Darthmike> yea true
[19:42] <Darthmike> ohh
[19:42] <^_Lord_^> they;ve been fixed 5 times in one year
[19:43] <Darthmike> man that cant be fixed?
[19:43] <Darthmike> WOW
[19:43] <^_Lord_^> uh huh
[19:43] <Darthmike> thats bafd
[19:43] <Darthmike> lol
[19:43] <^_Lord_^> yeppers
[19:43] <Darthmike> after the third time i would have sold the car
[19:43] <Darthmike> well truck
[19:43] <^_Lord_^> you would have sold it and taken a loss
[19:43] <[M]ax> why dont they send you a swap truck?
[19:43] <^_Lord_^> if toyota buys it back, they buy it back for the full amount I paid
[19:43] <[M]ax> like for like
[19:44] <^_Lord_^> they would have to send me a brand new 2006
[19:44] <^_Lord_^> which won't be a bad thing
[19:44] <Darthmike> wow
[19:44] <Darthmike> man a new toyota thats defective
[19:44] <Darthmike> that sucks
[19:44] <^_Lord_^> I guess I could be kewl with that
[19:44] <Darthmike> lol
[19:44] <^_Lord_^> as long as all the payments I've made apply to the new truck, I'd have 2 y
[19:45] <Darthmike> thats awesome
[19:45] <^_Lord_^> which would equate to about $15,000
[19:45] <Darthmike> wow
[19:45] <^_Lord_^> yeah i could be kel with that
[19:45] <^_Lord_^> but I am not trying to get out of anything
[19:45] <^_Lord_^> I really love the truck
[19:45] <^_Lord_^> I just love my family more
[19:45] <Darthmike> yea i understand
[19:45] <Darthmike> lol
[19:46] <^_Lord_^> and I woulnd't be able to live with myself if the brakes fail, and I kille
[19:46] <Darthmike> did you ever actually us e the trcuk as a trcuk?
[19:46] <^_Lord_^> yeah, I own a house. that's why I bough the truck. so when I do home imp
[19:46] <^_Lord_^> bought
[19:46] <Darthmike> cool
[19:46] <^_Lord_^> I got tired of borrowing my brother in law's
[19:47] <^_Lord_^> and I also got it because it's sporty
[19:47] <^_Lord_^> cuz I like sports cars
[19:47] <^_Lord_^> so it was a good two way deal
[19:47] <Darthmike> i asked cause in nyc people own the nissan titan and they use it like it
[19:47] <^_Lord_^> I like the titans too
[19:47] <Darthmike> things huge
[19:47] <Darthmike> and looks great
[19:47] <^_Lord_^> I used to really like the frontiers but they're just dressed up p'up truck
[19:48] <^_Lord_^> if I am able to get a new one, I will get the Tundra full size
[19:48] <Darthmike> lol
[19:48] <^_Lord_^> depending on the price and everything that goes down, I may get the limite
[19:48] <Darthmike> toyotas rock
[19:48] <Darthmike> how bout a landrover instad
[19:49] <Darthmike> the landrover discovery is one sexy truck
[19:49] <no-sweat> whoa whoa, the inspiron e1405 is the new xps m140 ????
[19:49] <no-sweat> http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6515150.html
[19:50] <Darthmike> lol
[19:50] <Darthmike> gotta loive dell
[19:50] <no-sweat> i was actually going to buy the xps m140 but my credit card got declined
[19:50] <no-sweat> so then i found this one
[19:50] <no-sweat> what are the changes
[19:50] <no-sweat> chances rather
[19:50] <no-sweat> i rule
[19:52] <^_Lord_^> land rover?
[19:52] <^_Lord_^> no
[19:52] <^_Lord_^> too much money flair
[19:52] <^_Lord_^> not my style
[19:53] <^_Lord_^> ok I am done for the night
[19:53] <^_Lord_^> later all
[19:53] <Darthmike> later
[19:53] <Darthmike> i call it elegance
[19:54] <roto> Land Rovers are gay
[19:55] <roto> owned by Ford now
[19:55] <roto> like Volvo
[19:57] <wtfbitch> Im using freedom internet security suite.Anyone familiar with this program
[19:57] <Darthmike> get rid of it
[19:57] <Darthmike> i mean is it seriuosly worth the time and trouble to fix?
[19:58] <wtfbitch> And not use any firewall?
[19:58] <Darthmike> use zonealarm
[19:58] <Darthmike> or the windows firewall
[19:59] <Darthmike> both are good
[19:59] <Darthmike> or use avast antivirus and zonealarm at the same time
[20:00] <Darthmike> they work well together
[20:02] * Erro is now known as Tink
[20:05] <Darthmike> remote desktop rocks
[20:05] <Darthmike> except that you cant normally remotely shutdown
[20:05] <Darthmike> ut uim taking care of that right now
[20:08] <Darthmike> what do you guys think about avg antivirus?
[20:08] <blackdevl> um
[20:08] <random173> i use it.. it's not too bad
[20:08] <blackdevl> how cant you shut down?
[20:09] <Darthmike> cause when your remote desktopped to another comp
[20:10] <Darthmike> the comp that you are remoted to only allows you to disconnect
[20:10] <Darthmike> instead of shutdown
[20:11] <blackdevl> no it doesnt
[20:11] <blackdevl> start | settings | windows security
[20:12] <Darthmike> yea it does
[20:12] <Darthmike> im remoting to two comps rightnow
[20:12] <blackdevl> so what the fuck does that matter?
[20:12] <naphtali> shutdown.exe when in doubt
[20:12] <Darthmike> it doesnt fucking let you shut down
[20:12] <Darthmike> exactly
[20:12] <Darthmike> thats how i shut them down remotely
[20:13] <blackdevl> Darthmike guy
[20:13] <Darthmike> yea?
[20:13] <blackdevl> i just fucking told you how to shut it down
[20:13] <blackdevl> get your head out of your ass and pay attention
[20:13] <Darthmike> lmao
[20:13] <Darthmike> no i just told you
[20:13] <Darthmike> lmao
[20:13] <Darthmike> SHUTDOWN.exe -s -t 01
[20:13] <blackdevl> !kban Darthmike SHUTDOWN.EXE
[20:13] <blackdevl> F that guy
[20:13] <blackdevl> he shouts too much
[20:14] <roto> heh
[20:14] * no-sweat is now known as no-sweat|
[20:15] <roto> damn hackers
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[20:19] * Topic is 'Welcome to #WindowsXP | learning point and click since 1092bc'
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[20:22] * Hunt4meX is now known as Hunt4m3x
[20:37] * Tink is now known as Kizi
[20:43] * ManKind- is now known as ManKind
[20:48] <}{Pro> anyone know what cause the search option in winxp to go wierd so it ends up j
[20:49] <Kosher1> what is a good easy fast program that makes pictures size smaller?
[20:49] <Kosher1> in kb
[20:49] <|P-I-M-P|> photoshop
[20:50] <Kosher1> no something ez
[20:50] <|P-I-M-P|> lol
[20:50] <Kosher1> small in size
[20:50] <|P-I-M-P|> download.com
[20:50] <Kosher1> eehehe
[20:50] <Kosher1> thanx, i should have thought of that
[20:50] <}{Pro> know one here having found a problem with the xp search problem?
[20:51] <}{Pro> there is 3 computers in our office with the same problem
[20:51] * Kizi is now known as Phaze
[20:52] <}{Pro> cant run a search in any of those computer...like searching for files or pics
[20:53] <xp99> Kosher1: irfanview
[20:53] <xp99> free
[20:54] <xp99> }{Pro: turn off the search indexing
[20:54] <}{Pro> search indexing? ok where is that?
[20:54] <xp99> its a service
[20:55] <xp99> look for a service with the word index in it
[20:55] <xp99> u should find it
[20:56] <}{Pro> look where? registry? service? sorry :(
[20:58] <xp99> ?? service
[20:58] <CyberGeek> service == <not Defined>
[20:58] <xp99> ?? servicea
[20:58] <CyberGeek> servicea == <not Defined>
[20:58] <xp99> ?? services
[20:58] <CyberGeek> services == start > run > services.msc | See http://www.dead-eye.ne
[21:00] <}{Pro> hey thanks alot you guys rock as always!!!
[21:03] * Phaze is now known as Opis
[21:05] <xp99> as long as we are asked reasonable questions :)
[21:17] <factor_> hmm
[21:18] * no-sweat| is now known as no-sweat
[21:26] * port- is now known as port
[21:28] <SvX> is 890 joules of surge protection good?
[21:32] <factor_> I give up
[21:32] <factor_> hehe
[21:32] * Opis is now known as Kizi
[21:52] <no-sweat> heyyy
[21:52] <no-sweat> when using dos to ftp something, you use "put" to upload?
[21:52] <no-sweat> right
[21:53] <wezie> When I try and log onto the Windows Update site I get an Error number 0x800A0
[21:56] <Mic^Fly> wezie .. check this out :: http://www.updatexp.com/0x800a0046.html
[22:07] * Kizi is now known as Kudos
[22:08] <databits> thats a good question wezie
[22:15] <wezie> Well just so you know none of the things on that site worked. BRB
[22:21] * Kudos is now known as Ison
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[23:02] * Ison is now known as Matie
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[23:12] <Langly1> What does the DSP mean in the Windows XP pro DSP version mean?
[23:15] <Ta1oN> dsp is (almost) the same as an oem version
[23:15] <Ta1oN> sold in europe only afaik
[23:16] <Ta1oN> and oem is a licensing model, which in this case means that you are allowed t
[23:16] <Langly1> Nope, a websoite for a local shop here has it listed as also not requiring
[23:16] <Ta1oN> it's still the same as the oem version
[23:16] <Ta1oN> it even accepts the same cd-keys
[23:16] <Ta1oN> and it's still bound to the first system you install it on
[23:17] <Langly1> what if you upgrade bits of hardware?
[23:17] <Langly1> will that wreak it?
[23:18] <rtter> has anyone here used speedfan ?
[23:18] <Ta1oN> it depends on how much you upgrade
[23:18] <Ta1oN> after a certain point windows needs to be re-activated
[23:19] <Ta1oN> and if you reach this point with oem/dsp software, it completely depends on y
[23:19] <Ta1oN> activating by internet is normally no longer possible then, but sometimes act
[23:20] <Ta1oN> from a licensing-point-of-view you are not allowed to activate a oem/dsp vers
[23:20] <rtter> ms are bastards
[23:20] <Ta1oN> http://ebargainsoftware.com/oeminfo.html
[23:20] <Ta1oN> there you can read about that
[23:21] <Ta1oN> rtter, that is not ms's fault
[23:21] <xp99> rtter: well then u should buy the retail version if u want to change the mothe
[23:21] <Ta1oN> you shouldn't bash about things you don't understand
[23:21] <rtter> i upgraded my mobo and had to activate it again
[23:21] <Ta1oN> if you want the xp version ms sells get retail
[23:21] <Ta1oN> there you won't have any problems with activation
[23:21] <xp99> rtter: that counts as a new system
[23:21] <rtter> that shouldnt
[23:21] <Ta1oN> and you are allowed to install your version on as many new pc's as you want (
[23:22] <Ta1oN> so why are ms bastards again?
[23:22] <Ta1oN> cause you couldn't activate your OEM version on a new system?
[23:22] <rtter> for the methods that they use to require activation
[23:22] <Ta1oN> where is the problem with that?
[23:22] <xp99> rtter: and if u had bought the retail version, u wouldnt have this problem
[23:22] <rtter> that wasnt me i dont have an oem install
[23:22] <Ta1oN> if you bought your windows legally and use it inside the licensing model you
[23:23] <Ta1oN> it takes roughly 5 seconds to activate a legit windows version
[23:23] <rtter> uh huh
[23:23] <Ta1oN> and if you have problems with oem/dsp versions, go ask the store you bought i
[23:23] <Ta1oN> the full support is by the shop you bought it in
[23:23] <Ta1oN> IF they even support you at all
[23:23] <Ta1oN> that's also the reason why oem/dsp is so damn cheap
[23:24] <xp99> yep
[23:24] <Ta1oN> so if you have problems with activation on an oem/dsp version, don't bash ms,
[23:24] <xp99> ?? ta1on
[23:24] <CyberGeek> ta1on == This guy talks too much | see !top10 | also ta1on = Microsoft Po
[23:24] <Ta1oN> :P
[23:24] <xp99> lol
[23:25] <Ta1oN> i can't be in the top10 anymore though O.o
[23:25] <Ta1oN> !top10
[23:25] <xp99> I thought I recognized u
[23:25] <Ayudante> Top10(words): 1. Ta1oN(350077) 2. ^_Lord_^(204214) 3. bofh(189598) 4. blac
[23:25] <CyberGeek> Ayudante: A couple of fleas who hadn't seen each other for a
[23:25] <Ta1oN> -.-
[23:25] <xp99> well u are
[23:25] <Ta1oN> how the hell can i be place 1 if i wasn't here for a few months? O.o
[23:25] <xp99> no idea :)
[23:25] <rtter> can u guys help me out with a general problem. im trying to fix someones dell
[23:25] <Ta1oN> test the memory
[23:26] <rtter> can you recommend a good util for that
[23:26] <xp99> ?? memtest86
[23:26] <CyberGeek> memtest86 == Test your memory if you get memory errors (like Page_Fault_I
[23:26] <rtter> have any of u guys used speedfan ?
[23:27] <xp99> whats ur question on it?
[23:27] <rtter> well i am running it but it isnt showing the fans rpm
[23:27] <rtter> but i hear the fan running
[23:29] <xp99> perhaps it doesnt support your chipset
[23:30] <rtter> ahh here we go... its randomly frozen up
[23:30] <Dry-ice> My system keep rebooting. the ram was tested all day, the mb and cpu are br
[23:30] <rtter> maybe ...
[23:30] <rtter> i think im going to open it up and take a look at the cpu fan
[23:30] <xp99> Dry-ice: rebooting how? like someone pulled the power cord out?
[23:30] <xp99> rtter: ur bios might support reading it
[23:31] <Dry-ice> xp99: kinda
[23:31] <xp99> Dry-ice: yes or no?
[23:31] <rtter> xp99 i checked and it doesnt :p
[23:31] <rtter> cheap bastards at dell
[23:31] <Dry-ice> xp99: the monitor goes black and I see the video cards bios
[23:32] <rtter> xpp 99 the comp froze and then i got an error kernel_data_inpage_error
[23:34] <xp99> rtter: I suggest u google that error
[23:34] <Dry-ice> xp99: it's like I hit the reset switch
[23:34] <xp99> Dry-ice: yeah, probably ur psu, good idea to replace it
[23:36] <Dry-ice> hmmm, could the psu that is fault damage a motherboard enought to cause a c
[23:37] * Matie is now known as Kizi
[23:38] <lpc2> anyone here good with how games work on windows? i tried to play the ghost rec
[23:38] <lpc2> Crash in application version: grpcdemorc1.04
[23:38] <lpc2> StretchRect() failed in D3DBackBufferCopyTexture.
[23:38] <lpc2> The method call is invalid (probably due to invalid parameters).
[23:40] * Hunt4meX is now known as Hunt4m3x
[23:41] <Dry-ice> lpc2: sounds like a bad function call
[23:42] <lpc2> but im updated with my directx
[23:42] <lpc2> whats wrong?
[23:42] <Dry-ice> hmmm, looks like a very common error
[23:43] <Dry-ice> let me look into it
[23:43] <lpc2> oh really you have heard this before?
[23:44] <Dry-ice> a few friend had it. I don't know if they fixed or not
[23:44] <Langly1> Is xp home good enough just for a internet and gaming box, or should I get
[23:45] <rtter> get pro
[23:45] <rtter> xp home sucks ass
[23:45] <rtter> its worth upgrading to pro... you will be glad that you did ...
[23:45] <lpc2> i have pro
[23:45] <Dry-ice> I have pro, home is lacking
[23:46] <Dry-ice> not an extra $100 lacking
[23:47] <Dry-ice> lpc2: what video card do you have
[23:51] <lpc2> radeon 9800 pro
[23:51] * Kizi is now known as Opis
[23:52] <lpc2> i meet all the requirements
[23:54] <Dry-ice> this isn't the clone dvd is it ?
[23:55] <lpc2> no
[23:55] <lpc2> its the demo game from the website
[23:56] <lpc2> ......i cant even get the demo working
[23:56] <lpc2> :/
Session Close: Tue May 09 00:00:00 2006