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Session Start: Sun Jan 28 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #unixhelp
[00:18] <Mouring> Splish, Splash I was taking a bath..
[00:45] <Mr_You> again and again and again and again.. do it again.. do it again..
[00:49] <Mr_You> thats a good song by "The bird and the bee"
[00:49] <Mouring> The birds and the bees and the flowers and the trees and the moon up above
[00:59] <roycroft> love, love will keep us together
[00:59] <roycroft> think of me babe whenever
[00:59] <roycroft> some sweet girl comes along, singing her song
[00:59] <roycroft> don't mess around, you gotta be stong
[00:59] <roycroft> just stop, 'cuz i really love you
[01:00] <roycroft> stop, 'cuz i'll be thinkin' of you
[01:00] <roycroft> look in my heart and let love keep us togehter
[01:00] <roycroft> together
[01:01] <Mouring> stop, stop, stop all the dancing give me time to breath.. stop stop stop al
[01:04] <roycroft> every time i make a move to love you, 1-2-3 red light, you stop me
[01:04] <roycroft> baby it ain't right to stop me
[01:04] <roycroft> 1-2-3 red light, you stop me
[01:05] * roycroft is the king of bubblegum rock lyrics
[01:06] <roycroft> but it's 1:06 am, and i need to take my leave for the eveing
[01:06] <roycroft> evening
[01:06] <Mouring> I want to paint you naked on a big brass bed.. With bright orange poppies a
[01:06] <Mouring> Night.
[01:06] * roycroft ciaodersw
[01:07] <roycroft> ciaoders
[02:31] <dumpurge> I have a question on HP-UX - anyone here with experience?
[02:31] <DocRadium> sure
[02:32] <dumpurge> I recently purcahsed a C240 - am wondering if there is a o/s disk for it o
[02:32] <Mouring> not legally.
[02:32] <dumpurge> Or is that a stupid question
[02:33] <dumpurge> Ah, so it does have the o/s on the hard disk. I see.
[02:34] <dumpurge> I worry I will corrupt the drive and not be able to fix it without the os
[02:34] <DocRadium> yeah you need install media
[02:35] <dumpurge> I guess I will have to be real careful not to corrupt the drive :)
[02:35] <DocRadium> or pirate an OS disc
[02:36] <dumpurge> DocRadium - when you buy a new UNIX box - does it usually come with instal
[02:36] <dumpurge> ?
[02:36] <DocRadium> I would assume so
[02:36] <Mouring> a new server.. normally.
[02:36] <DocRadium> at least from any of the SysV folks (Sun, HP, SGI, IBM, etc.)
[02:36] <DocRadium> yes
[02:36] <dumpurge> Ah...that is good.
[02:37] <DocRadium> hard part will be finding one
[02:37] <DocRadium> particularily if the box you have is already end of lifed by HP
[02:37] <Mouring> HP/UX (like SGI) had a policy at one point to provide replacement media for
[02:37] <Mouring> However the media wasn't free.
[02:39] <dumpurge> Interesting.
[02:39] <Mouring> granted it was a copy of whatever the last version licensed to that box the
[02:39] <dumpurge> I may e-mail HP support.
[02:39] <Mouring> And in SGI case it was normally older than most fokes wanted.
[02:40] <dumpurge> I am happy just to have a working install media.
[02:40] <dumpurge> I expect it to be expensive though.
[02:42] <Mouring> worse comes to worse you may find that netbsd or linux runs it.
[02:42] <dumpurge> Oh God no.
[02:42] <dumpurge> :o)
[02:43] <dumpurge> I used Linux for a few years and really want to experience a true UNIX she
[02:44] <DocRadium> chuck the hpux box
[02:44] <dhartmei> i guess to truly feel the snobby experience, you have to have bought the s
[02:44] <DocRadium> get solaris 10 x86
[02:45] <dumpurge> Oh I did - but the keyboard did not work?
[02:45] <DocRadium> if you've used Linux you'll find hockeypux quite lacking
[02:45] <Mouring> I've found most "true UNIX shell" experience leads to me hate where UNIX wa
[02:46] <dumpurge> At the moment I run Fedora Core 5 on my laptop but I really just want my f
[02:47] <dumpurge> dhartmei - yes, it was only recently I realised how expensive UNIX can be
[02:47] <Mouring> As an owner of two sparcs, one next and m88k DG/UX box.. It isn't a special
[02:48] <Mouring> ermm.. 3 sparcs
[02:48] <DocRadium> I have one sparc. it's in storage.
[02:48] <dumpurge> I would like to run some code on those Sun Microsystems computers they are
[02:48] <Mouring> Only one is in use now.. the U10 is my webserver and works perfectly fan.
[02:49] <dumpurge> But it is AMerican only so far...
[02:51] <dumpurge> Okies, thanks for the help Mourning, DocRadium, et al.
[02:52] <dumpurge> I will look into contacting HP for the media.
[02:52] <dumpurge> *Mouring
[02:55] <Yashy> Anyone awake that speaks procmail? :)
[03:40] <teclo> afternoon, and stuff
[03:40] <m10> g'day
[04:51] <cslintz> can someone please tell me how to prevent nuke attack. I'm Using X-chat an
[04:53] <Yashy> define "nuke"
[04:53] <teclo> heh
[04:53] <teclo> heh ubuntu
[04:54] <teclo> yeah
[04:54] <teclo> what do you call nuke, dude ?
[04:57] <teclo> you there, cslintz ?
[04:57] <teclo> Perhaps is he jacking off
[04:57] <cslintz> yes
[04:57] <cslintz> im here
[04:57] <cslintz> let me explain
[05:00] <teclo> hm
[05:00] <teclo> oh wait
[05:00] <teclo> salaam alekum, cslintz
[05:04] <cslintz> nuke as it make people internet line lag
[05:04] <teclo> nuke is gone dude
[05:04] <cslintz> send continuous ctcp?
[05:05] <teclo> ability to nuke was a hole in W*ndows around 1996
[05:05] <teclo> it's gone
[05:05] <teclo> and since you're using ubuntu you don't have the M*crosoft holes
[05:06] <cslintz> umm
[05:09] <cslintz> thanks teclo
[08:48] * nbkk6fo__ is now known as phusnikn
[09:02] * nbkk6fo_ is now known as phusnikn
[10:37] * overt growls
[10:37] <jahshua> sup
[10:41] <overt> had a couple of private jobs this weekend
[10:41] <overt> few extra buck and and all
[10:44] <overt> got myself an 'easy ide' device for easily connecting internal disks via usb
[10:48] <overt> tooks the minus out. Was going to dump me if I hadn't
[10:49] <overt> um and encrypted my entire os, which took like 2 days :/
[10:50] <overt> and there is my wonderful weekend....
[10:50] <jahshua> encrypted your os eh?
[10:50] <jahshua> how did you go abut doing that?
[10:51] <jahshua> about*
[10:51] <overt> drivecrypt
[10:51] <overt> or was it pgp
[10:52] <overt> there is about 1-3% overhead
[10:54] * roycroft wonders why one would "encrypt an entire os"
[11:54] <ttz> hey
[11:54] <ttz> does anyone know about a tool such as tar or pax which can archive device/fifo/
[11:55] <m10> dd
[11:55] <roycroft> tar or pax or cpio can do it
[11:55] <ttz> ah... I've surely overlooked the options then
[11:55] <ttz> would you give me some clues ?
[11:55] <roycroft> if you're trying to back up stuff as opposed to archiving stuff use dump o
[11:56] <ttz> I would like to use dump, but I want to backup only a subdirectory that contain
[11:56] <roycroft> dump works on whatever you tell it to work on
[11:58] <roycroft> i just did tar cfp /var/tmp/dev.tar /dev and it worked fine except for a s
[11:58] <roycroft> ya:; tar tvf /var/tmp/dev.tar | sed -n 1,3p
[11:58] <roycroft> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11990 Sep 17 2004 MAKEDEV
[11:58] <roycroft> crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 21, 0 Nov 10 2004 apm
[11:58] <roycroft> crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 21, 8 Nov 10 2004 apmctl
[11:59] <roycroft> but if you're doing backups, read the dump(1) man page more carefully and
[12:00] <roycroft> or put a copy of dump in the jail and dump the whole jail
[12:17] <ttz> roycroft: thank you very much
[12:45] <roycroft> no problem
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[13:43] * Topic is 'No-politics zone, starting at Noon EST'
[13:43] * Set by Hawson![2LjkmpPDE@agricola.ms.northwestern.edu on Wed Jan 24 08:57:41
[13:59] <fdiab> im trying to write a script in cshell , i need to give it different parameter
[14:00] <Dyanora> cshell sucks
[14:00] <Dyanora> do't write scripts in csh
[14:01] <fdiab> switch to sh?
[14:01] <peter_> im trying to write a script in cshell , i need to give it different paramete
[14:01] <fdiab> WTF
[14:01] <fdiab> peter_ ???????
[14:01] <Dyanora> peter: Don't use csh for scripting
[14:02] <peter_> its not my choice ...
[14:02] <peter_> it HW in some course im taking
[14:02] * Dianora sigh
[14:02] <Dyanora> go away
[14:02] <Dyanora> we don't do homework questions
[14:03] <Dyanora> Any school that would teach csh scripting is a pretty useless school.
[14:03] <Dyanora> demand your money back and find a real school.
[14:37] * _^MadDog^ is now known as ^MadDog^
[15:09] <fdiab> hows qmail liscence?
[15:09] <fdiab> and qmail in general?
[15:10] <Figz> qmail has no license per se
[15:10] <Figz> there's a copy of the license on the author's site, but that doesn't count for
[15:10] * Mr_Bond_ is now known as Mr_Bond
[15:11] <Figz> it's basically his way of saying "it's free to use but you can't include it wi
[15:11] <Figz> pretty much the rest of qmail is similarly reasoned
[15:11] <fdiab> procmail?
[15:12] <Figz> do you mean postfix?
[15:12] <fdiab> yes
[15:12] <fdiab> perhaps I should use postfix then
[15:12] <Figz> postfix is essentially gpl.. perhaps slightly freer, but not free enough to ca
[15:12] <Figz> everyone likes wietse.. except perhaps djb
[15:13] <fdiab> djb?
[15:13] <Figz> qmail's author
[15:13] <fdiab> and who would wietse be please
[15:14] <Figz> wietse venema, postfix's author
[15:14] <fdiab> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Public_License <--- postfix's license.
[15:14] <fdiab> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ibmpl.php <-- full text of the license.
[15:14] <Figz> it would make a lot of people very happy if wietse would release under bsd lic
[15:15] <fdiab> I have HowtoForge's postfix installation ported to FreeBSD running on 2 of my
[15:16] <fdiab> so i'll continue with that.. not qmail.
[15:16] <fdiab> oh.... except I added maildrop in there so I could do procmail-type filtering
[15:17] <fdiab> ever done that configuration?
[15:17] <fdiab> http://howtoforge.org/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier VERY good guide on
[15:18] <fdiab> would it be better i get rid of pop?
[15:18] <fdiab> and do imap+maildir
[15:18] <fdiab> ?
[15:20] <Mouring> another nice postfix howto is: http://eviladmin.org/projects/pcw.html but
[15:20] <fdiab> i will bookmark it, thanks
[15:22] <Mouring> Amazing how many people are still trying to fetch webcvs openssh content fr
[15:24] <fdiab> actually, I am using maildir... I have pop configured (but not running) in ca
[15:24] <fdiab> Part of the reason for doing that, too, was cause their authentication uses c
[15:27] <Mouring> It's a configuration that a friend's client needed. So I created him an in
[15:28] <fdiab> cool
[15:30] <fdiab> <Mouring> Amazing how many people are still trying to fetch webcvs open
[15:30] <fdiab> lol yea
[15:31] <fdiab> why do they do that
[15:31] * fdiab wonders
[15:31] <Mouring> because I use to publish the OpenSSH portable tree on my website when I wor
[15:32] <Mouring> I'm at least nice and am redirecting them to mindrot which has the tree now
[15:32] <fdiab> oh okay :)
[15:36] <fdiab> how does it feel to code with Theo?
[15:36] <fdiab> demanding he is? eh
[15:37] <fdiab> but its no doubt a wonderful experience you had
[15:37] <Mouring> An unique experience. He knows when something is half-ass and doesn't let
[15:38] <fdiab> no doubt :)
[15:38] <fdiab> he wants the code to be as perfect as possible
[15:40] * Yashy_ is now known as Yashy
[16:08] <ImMorTaLX> when a dir is password protected using apache, does it affect how the ser
[16:09] <Mouring> no
[16:10] <ImMorTaLX> k thanks
[16:12] <ImMorTaLX> when password protecting a dir do i have to make new settings or can i te
[16:12] <ImMorTaLX> at once
[16:13] <Mouring> uh? you tell apache that location /xxx and below are password protected.
[16:20] <ImMorTaLX> <Directory /var/www/vhosts/pricelesstv.com/httpdocs/include>
[16:20] <ImMorTaLX> can i add like <Directory /var/www/vhosts/pricelesstv.com/httpdocs/inc
[16:20] <ImMorTaLX> but include2
[16:20] <ImMorTaLX> right htere
[16:21] <ImMorTaLX> or do i have to make a new parm?
[16:23] <Mouring> your not making sense.. if the directory isn't under /var/www/vhosts/pricel
[16:45] <unixboy> morning
[16:48] <unixboy> i remember once playing a quest game on irc
[16:48] <unixboy> years and years ago
[16:49] <unixboy> or with someone should I say
[18:15] <vova1> hey guys
[18:16] * vova1 is now known as vladimir
[18:17] * vladimir is now known as vovachka
[19:35] <smokey> in pine, where would i set my outgoing server? i set it to my email provider
[19:38] <cyberfr0g> if you are running an smptd then that i correct
[19:41] <cyberfr0g> is
[19:42] <smokey> no
[19:42] <smokey> im trying to send email via PINE through cox.net
[19:43] <cyberfr0g> so set the smtp-server variable
[19:44] <smokey> i did that. it trys sending mail from acked.us and not cox.net
[19:44] <cyberfr0g> sending mail from and sending mail to are 2 different things
[19:44] <smokey> i set user-domain to cox.net and i get need MAIL before RCPT
[21:54] <Professor> evenin'
[23:41] <corpxicle> how do i add new hardware in solaris ? ive attached a external scsi cabin
[23:42] <corpxicle> i guess i could reboot, but thats not an option at this moment
[23:59] <Church> corpxicle: if new enough solaris - run devfsadm. should do everything needed
Session Close: Mon Jan 29 00:00:00 2007