Session Start: Wed Jul 30 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #php
[00:13] <Tommo> is addslashes sufficient for sanitising password inputs (i dont want to do a
[00:14] <Tommo> or is there a potential danger when its passed to mysql without further forma
[00:14] <horros> Why'd you need sanitising password inputs?
[00:14] <horros> ...as you're not storing them plaintext, but as a hash.
[00:15] <horros> Which you're doing, right? Right?
[00:15] <Tommo> that's a good point
[00:15] <Tommo> i mean i would have
[00:15] <Kruge> I store all my passwords and credit card numbers as plaintext, just for effic
[00:15] <NiteLiteW> lol
[00:16] <Tommo> is the main vulnerability with php forms in that it gets passed to mysql? i.e
[00:17] <NiteLiteW> you only need to worry when the input from the user gets executed in some
[00:18] <NiteLiteW> either through a sql statement, an eval (evil!) or a exec()/system() call
[00:18] <NiteLiteW> those are the most common that i can think of at the moment
[00:18] <Tommo> okay, brilliant
[00:18] <Tommo> thanks
[00:44] <Nylad> Does anyone have a chat server that they would recommend for a linux box that
[00:47] <Two9A> Time to continue on with my c64 article
[00:49] <neves> hm, cuil.com sucks
[00:50] <apathy--> yup
[00:50] <apathy--> it's shockingly bad
[00:50] <darkie> yeah, not a very good launch for them
[00:50] <darkie> and yet they claimed to be "better" than google :P
[00:53] <apathy--> they obviously started to believe their own bullshit
[00:53] <apathy--> I wonder if the choice to launch so soon was down to the investors
[00:53] <apathy--> I can't see a techie saying it was right to launch yet
[00:53] <neves> def. imagine how shitty the executives are going to feel when this takes a no
[00:54] <apathy--> $33m shitty?
[00:54] <Two9A> 33M is nothing
[00:54] <apathy--> it's plenty to me ;)
[00:54] <neves> they'll be asking themselves what they were thinking trying to take on google
[00:55] <neves> you'd think that set of brass would've realized that beating them would be mo
[00:55] <Two9A> They do provide relevant results!
[00:55] <Two9A> It's just that they don't match to the text
[00:55] <apathy--> only if you turn the adult filter off
[00:55] <neves> oh, they don't even have trillions yet
[00:56] <apathy--> http://www.cuil.com/search?q=cuil
[00:56] <apathy--> biggest disappointment ever
[00:56] <neves> at least http://www.cuil.com/search?q=google
[00:56] <XB23> anyone know much about winbinder?
[01:05] <mykz-> morning
[01:06] <Two9A> Just come across this slashdot story about bad meters/gauges
[01:06] <Two9A> Apparently, that "full signal" on a MacBook's wifi is a lie: it's either full
[01:07] <ilon> is it possible to store objects in a array?
[01:07] <ilon> and use it for object-pooling
[01:07] <Two9A> Sure, an array of objects each with an array inside; no problem
[01:09] <ilon> how do i create a object of a class where the classname is stored in a variabl
[01:09] <Two9A> You'd normally make a "new Something"
[01:10] <Two9A> Take a guess what you put instead of Something
[01:10] <ilon> :P
[01:10] <ilon> converting from java, so i excpect everything to be hard to easily accomplish
[01:10] <ilon> err
[01:11] <Two9A> Get rid of the easily, yeah
[01:12] <NiteLiteW> you can do: $obj = new $objclass; in php
[01:12] <Two9A> Damn it
[01:12] <ilon> thought so, just wasnt sure
[01:12] <Two9A> He's supposed to go read, and check ;)
[01:12] <Qube> morning
[01:12] <ilon> hehe
[01:12] <ilon> morning
[01:12] <NiteLiteW> all though i usually find that such a pattern might indicate poor design
[01:12] <Two9A> It's Teh Qube
[01:12] <Qube> morn two
[01:13] <jome> hello mr qube, mr two9a et al
[01:13] * jome yawns a bit
[01:13] <Qube> hey jome.
[01:13] <apathy--> you mis-spelled apathy
[01:13] <Qube> when you hit boston?
[01:13] <apathy--> you went all paul simon on ym ass
[01:14] <jome> Qube: about 170 hours
[01:14] <jome> :D
[01:14] <jome> I now have a room there too
[01:14] <Qube> cool - where's the room?
[01:14] <jome> Somerville, not too far from Cambridge
[01:15] <Qube> oh, not in the city then
[01:15] <apathy--> I liked boston when I went a few years ago
[01:15] <Qube> city or in cambridge is the only place I'd like to live
[01:15] <Qube> boston has/had my most favourite bar in the world... shame it is closed now
[01:16] <jome> well, i'd only live in the part of cambridge close to the center
[01:16] <Qube> (and no, it wasn't the cheers bar - that sucks)
[01:16] <jome> i'm gonna try to get a place in northern or cambridge
[01:16] <Qube> "The Rack"... think Hooters but a pool hall
[01:16] <jome> heheh
[01:17] <Qube> plus on 2 occassions my credit card tab never appeared on my bill :)
[01:17] <jome> that's always good
[01:18] * Two9A wonders if he got paid
[01:18] <apathy--> today should be payday for me, too
[01:18] <apathy--> I need to think of a nice meal to make
[01:19] <Two9A> Whoo, got paid
[01:19] * Two9A takes advantage of the FTS
[01:19] <YorT> Samari Pizza Cats!!!!
[01:20] <Two9A> Slashdot has some good lines on occasion. "Not only can I write software, but
[01:20] <Qube> I made the most awesomest banoffee pie...
[01:21] <YorT> wtf is this banoffee stuff people are talking about?
[01:21] <Qube> what? man - you haven't lived
[01:21] <YorT> what is it?
[01:21] <Two9A> Banana/toffee
[01:21] <YorT> a new coffee or something?
[01:21] <YorT> oh
[01:21] <Two9A> I don't go in for it myself
[01:22] <Kidlvr> Yo apathy-- im not happy dude, seriously not happy.
[01:22] <Qube> digestive biscuit base all crushed then stuck back together with butter about
[01:22] <Qube> this one I made with hobnobs
[01:22] <YorT> wtf is a hobnob?
[01:22] <YorT> sounds ... gay
[01:22] <YorT> hehe
[01:23] <apathy--> Kidlvr: because?
[01:23] <Kidlvr> I was laying there watching "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" and suddenly this mo
[01:23] <Two9A> NZ'ers. Don't know they were born
[01:23] <Qube> another "haven't lived" momemnt ;)
[01:23] <YorT> lol
[01:23] <Qube> have someone send you a packet of hobnobs
[01:23] <Two9A> Kidlvr: So there's a mouse in your house
[01:23] <Two9A> There were roaches all OVER my place in TR
[01:23] <Kidlvr> Might be more.
[01:23] <apathy--> a single mouse ain't the biggest problem in the world
[01:23] <Kidlvr> Who knows. I saw it (or maybe others) several times.
[01:24] <Kidlvr> Ive never lived in a house with a mouse.
[01:24] <apathy--> you have
[01:24] <Two9A> YOU HAVE NOW
[01:24] <Qube> Kidlvr, mouse > woman... you don't have to feed them either
[01:25] <YorT> lol
[01:28] <Kidlvr> Yeh well..I don't think a mouse will willingly suck me off
[01:28] <apathy--> nor would a woman!
[01:29] <Two9A> "nor would your mom"
[01:29] <Kidlvr> >.>
[01:30] <Kidlvr> 26 degrees today in London.
[01:30] <YorT> nice
[01:31] <Kidlvr> Oh yeh but apathy--, I am moving in with my Dad. He secretly had a two bedro
[01:31] <Kidlvr> So screw living with some crazy japs and brazillians.
[01:31] <apathy--> I forsee a frosty relationship withy our mother ont he horizon
[01:31] * Kidlvr dosen't have a careface
[01:32] <apathy--> I'm so fucking tired right now
[01:32] <apathy--> need caffeine
[01:32] <apathy--> has no moneyz
[01:32] <apathy--> feh
[01:32] <YorT> hmmm
[01:34] <YorT> hahahaha
[01:34] <Kidlvr> lol apathy-- want a loan?
[01:34] <YorT> the chick from Weeds
[01:34] <YorT> the hot mum
[01:34] <YorT> a chick at work has the same sort of facial expressions
[01:34] <YorT> hehe
[01:35] <apathy--> Kidlvr: I'm waiting on two clients who should pay today
[01:35] <YorT> apathy-- or send in the thugs
[01:35] <Kidlvr> $$$
[01:35] <Kidlvr> [09:35:24] [+YorT] a chick at work has the same sort of facial expressions
[01:35] <apathy--> YorT: it's pretty much come down to that
[01:35] <Kidlvr> What, you mean like they both can smile YorT?
[01:35] <YorT> Kidlvr :P
[01:35] <Kidlvr> :P
[01:35] <YorT> Kidlvr wait, yeah sure
[01:36] <apathy--> I'm looking at the recipe for chicken parmesan here
[01:36] <apathy--> can you guess what cheese is listed in the ingredients?
[01:36] <YorT> apathy-- sound easy?
[01:36] <Two9A> apathy--: Use red leicester
[01:36] <apathy--> 2 oz healthy choice fat free mozzarella, cheese, grated
[01:36] <apathy--> 2 oz truly lite fat free ricotta cheese
[01:36] <apathy--> chicken parmesan, I ask you
[01:36] <Two9A> :D
[01:36] <YorT> hehe
[01:37] <Two9A> There's no way I'd bother to make a chicken parmesan with any expensive chees
[01:37] <Kidlvr> I have some chicken breast from morrisons I am going to eat at lunch time to
[01:37] <YorT> why waste the money
[01:37] <YorT> all you will do is eat it and poo it out the other end
[01:37] <Kidlvr> Some lettuce and toasted bread
[01:37] <Kidlvr> chicken sandwich yum
[01:37] <Two9A> YorT: Ding
[01:37] <apathy--> YorT: typically, more expensive cheeses offer a much better taste, which i
[01:37] <YorT> apathy-- o ok
[01:37] <apathy--> there's a huge difference between mousetrap cheddar anfd decent cheddar fo
[01:38] <Kidlvr> I have found the best game ever, if you like physics or a challenge, give it
[01:39] <Two9A> Found?
[01:39] <Two9A> I'm tempted to say "old", but that presumes it's less than a year old
[01:39] <Kidlvr> I stumbled upon it.
[01:39] <Two9A> "OLD" would be more appropriate
[01:39] <Kidlvr> Not SU.com but - literally.
[01:41] <Kidlvr> 18,000 users wewtwewt
[01:41] <Kidlvr> ooh, I made a loss yesterday.
[01:42] <Kidlvr> Profits are still up but only by 100% rather than the previously forecasted
[01:42] <YorT> how much?
[01:43] <Kidlvr> well, my base rate is $3, today im up to just short of $6
[01:43] <YorT> wtf?
[01:43] <Kidlvr> adsense my friend.
[01:45] <YorT> lol
[01:45] <YorT> hes messaged me
[01:52] <YorT> hahahahaha
[01:52] <YorT> Weeds is funny as
[01:52] <erf> Morning
[01:52] <Shai-Tan> LIES!!!
[01:52] <YorT> ello
[01:52] <erf> I've got to remember to start taking a extra set of clothes out with me in a ba
[01:53] <erf> going back to mine before work is annoying
[01:53] <YorT> lol
[01:59] <YorT> stinky
[02:00] <erf> son of a bitch.
[02:00] <erf> It's taken me a year to figure out work had imap enabled on their exchange serv
[02:00] <YorT> :)
[02:00] <Two9A> And you work it out THE DAY you leave
[02:01] <YorT> you leaving today erf?
[02:01] <erf> I have 2 weeks left :/
[02:01] <YorT> do you think you will go back?
[02:02] <YorT> or doesnt it work like that?
[02:03] <YorT> Two9A when using sqlite, how would you protect the db? ... like backup wise
[02:03] <YorT> would you simply copy it somewhere else?
[02:03] <Two9A> Yeah, that would work
[02:03] <Two9A> rsync it offsite maybe
[02:07] <YorT> hmm, will have to work out how to use rsync in windows
[02:07] <YorT> hehe
[02:07] <YorT> the next project i do for them, im gonna say we should host it offsite
[02:11] <darkie> if I use the php command under linux, is there a way for me to save the outp
[02:11] <YorT> >
[02:11] <darkie> so just > file then?
[02:11] <darkie> that was simple
[02:11] <darkie> =P thx
[02:11] <YorT> > pipes it into a file
[02:11] <YorT> what ever the output was
[02:11] <darkie> ok, thanks
[02:13] <darkie> will that extend the excisting file or replace it?
[02:15] <jome> Argh
[02:15] * jome has cancelled his Dell order
[02:15] <ebsd> >> extends .. > replaces
[02:15] <Drex> what you doing placing a dhell order in the first place
[02:16] <jome> Drex: Have had good experience with them
[02:17] <Drex> i always find their stuff to be cheap feeling, batteries run low in 6 months,
[02:17] <jome> Ok, well, now it looks like I'll order a ThinkPad
[02:18] <jome> But have been glancing at MacBooks..
[02:18] <Drex> thats more like it
[02:18] <ebsd> im off a dell rightnow - got like 5 bad pixels and only had it for like 1-2mos
[02:18] <Drex> yeh macs have come right down in price and are now competitive with windows in
[02:18] <jome> A MacBook I would order only to annoy Two9A ;D
[02:18] <ebsd> took them 1month to get my order ready- since i ordered the glossy lcd
[02:18] <impl> IBM IS YOUR GOD
[02:18] <ebsd> .. its' about the acer travelmate tablets.
[02:18] <jome> impl: Hah, get me employee rebate? ;D
[02:19] <jome> They're actually fairly cheap
[02:19] <Drex> ive had nothing but praise for asus from heaps of my clients
[02:19] <impl> hmm
[02:19] <jome> impl: When did you get home? Midnight? :)
[02:19] <Drex> acer on the other hand stay right away from
[02:19] <impl> jome: I would have to order it for you, I don't know my dad's ID number off-ha
[02:19] <impl> yeah, midnight
[02:19] <impl> http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/content/home/store_eppus/en_US/epplogin.h
[02:20] <jome> :O
[02:20] <jome> Nice :P
[02:20] <jome> Discounted pricing for IBM U.S. and Lenovo U.S. employees, their family and fr
[02:20] <Drex> thats nice
[02:20] <jome> ^^ Friends :D
[02:20] <Drex> haha ill take two
[02:20] <impl> http://www.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=eep&cs=2236&link_number=1
[02:21] <erf> Get an apple
[02:21] <jome> impl: No Latitude, but thanks ;D
[02:21] <impl> erf: You are not allowed to speak anymore
[02:21] <jome> Hah
[02:21] <erf> heh
[02:21] <erf> You will die impl
[02:22] <impl> http://www.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/latit?c=us&cs=6004&l=en&s=ee
[02:22] <jome> impl: Do you know what prices you get in that employee thing?
[02:22] <erf> I get discount with HP
[02:22] <Drex> i wouldnt mind a mac book, just so could learn more osx
[02:22] <impl> jome: I think it's usually around 10%
[02:23] <Drex> comparible to wholesale or cheaper
[02:23] <jome> impl: ah, ok, so $100-$150ish
[02:23] <impl> Yeah
[02:23] <Drex> dlink used to give us 60% off, but we could only buy one of each item
[02:23] <impl> At least on the Dell website, you can combine that discount with other offers
[02:23] <impl> :>
[02:24] <erf> haha http://xkcd.com/
[02:25] <jome> impl: True, though the Dells are kind of expensive compared to the thinkapds
[02:25] <jome> thinkpads*
[02:25] <Drex> thinkpads will far outlast a dell
[02:25] <impl> ^^ probably true
[02:25] <yaragn> but you can get coloured cases for the dell
[02:25] <Drex> \my old man still using his thinkpad p3 from years ago
[02:25] <impl> I have a ThinkPad from 2000 that still runs fine
[02:26] <Drex> whats dell the new apple, its red so it must go faster
[02:26] <jome> My thinkpad worked great until i dropped it in the concrete a couple of times
[02:26] <Drex> heh, i was skating and my compaq flew across the road out of my bag, still wor
[02:26] <impl> ALWAYS USE STRAPS LADIES
[02:27] <Drex> wish they still made compaqs like they used to
[02:27] <jome> wth is straps?
[02:27] <impl> meh, must go to work
[02:27] <impl> :(
[02:27] <impl> jome: those things that go around the laptop to keep it secure inside a bag
[02:27] <Drex> suck, i just got home, 2 hours late
[02:27] <jome> impl: Ahh
[02:28] <Drex> i didnt have one of those bags at the time, zipper failed and split and crash
[02:29] <Drex> bought an awesome targus backpack since
[02:36] * Katana looks around
[02:37] <Two9A> Katana AND Derick, in here at the same time?
[02:38] <Derick> it's an illusion
[02:39] <Katana> we're not here (look at the red light)
[02:39] <Two9A> Ooh, blinking light
[02:39] <erf> Wow, old ops.
[02:39] <Katana> how have you been ?
[02:39] <Two9A> Been doing well, actually
[02:40] <acidjazz> PHP NEEDS FAD
[02:40] <Two9A> Just got paid, so all is happy
[02:40] <Katana> cool
[02:40] <Katana> haha
[02:40] <Derick> pay!
[02:40] <Katana> always a good reason to be in a good mood
[02:40] <Derick> let me check :)
[02:40] <Katana> yeah, i can wait on mine... crazy accountants
[02:40] <Two9A> Now I've gotta move more money out of savings
[02:40] <Two9A> (holiday in THREE weeks)
[02:40] <Katana> same
[02:41] <Derick> not yet :(
[02:41] <Qube> My year with Microsoft Vista: http://pgregg.com/
[02:42] <Two9A> A blog frontend to a forum!
[02:42] <Qube> :)
[02:42] <yaragn> Qube: whore
[02:43] <Two9A> The fontcache is 500M?
[02:43] <Qube> yargs, which part? Vista, Me, or link whoring?
[02:43] <yaragn> just generally
[02:44] <Qube> heh
[02:44] <Katana> (i basically agree with this vista post)
[02:44] <yaragn> all of the above
[02:44] <Qube> I try
[02:44] <Qube> I just wish I could charge
[02:44] <jome> What's this? Is it 2001 again? ;)
[02:44] <Two9A> Qube: Sounds like McAfee's at fault, really
[02:44] <Katana> hey jome :)
[02:44] <Katana> yeah, you ended up in 2001
[02:44] <yaragn> Qube: posterous
[02:44] <jome> Hi there Katana :)
[02:45] <jome> Katana: It worked!
[02:45] <Qube> Two9A, McAfee problem exists in XP too tho
[02:45] * jome pats his time machine
[02:45] <Qube> its not the main issue
[02:45] <Two9A> So XP time today?
[02:45] <Katana> the main issue with Vista laptops is usually to find the drivers for XP...
[02:46] <Katana> took me 2 month to get them for my vaio
[02:46] <Katana> and I haven't found all of them yet
[02:46] <Qube> deall isn't so bad with XP drivers
[02:46] <Two9A> Mm, I won't be going vista any time soon
[02:46] <Katana> i've been using vista since september 2007
[02:46] <Katana> the fact that it's still here shows that it's not THAT bad :)
[02:47] <Katana> (and also that i'm a lazy guy who just doesn't feel like setting up everythi
[02:47] <Katana> but this is no breaking news
[02:49] <Segaja> is there a native function in php, which gets me the headers of an url?
[02:51] <YorT> Two9A you used the php to sqlite bridge for functions before?
[02:52] <Two9A> Er, not come across any bridge
[02:52] <YorT> ->createFunction() in pdo
[02:53] <YorT> im all nice and clean
[02:53] <erf> Qube: that post makes vista sound bad :)
[02:53] <Katana> not as bad as most non-vista users say it is :)
[02:53] <erf> heh
[02:54] <erf> I hate parts of it
[02:54] <YorT> im trying to think of a bit i actually really like
[02:54] <YorT> Qube still having trouble fufilling that last user?
[02:56] <erf> I'm hungry.
[02:56] <caution> whats the function to convert all input to text?
[02:56] <Katana> convert_all_input_to_text()
[02:57] <erf> magic_function_that_does_what_i_want()
[02:57] <caution> like, if someone puts </html> in an input textbox, what function do I
[02:57] <Qube> YorT, not massively worried with everyone who paid up front, I have the $$
[02:57] <caution> ahhh, the magic function
[02:57] <Katana> depends on what appropriate is...
[02:57] <caution> I always forget about that one
[02:57] <caution> kkthnx?
[02:57] <Qube> another would be nice, but not essential
[02:57] <Katana> if you want to remove html tags, use striptags
[02:58] <erf> mmmm rolos
[02:58] <YorT> Qube nice, thats good
[02:58] <Two9A> Bam
[02:58] <Pablos> Katana, you're not that dude from the US are you?
[02:58] <erf> Bam bam?
[02:58] <erf> He's from .fr
[02:58] <Katana> nope
[02:58] <YorT> hes asian
[02:58] <Katana> same question than 8 years ago, this is funny :)
[02:59] <erf> Lousey cheese eating surrender monkey!
[02:59] <Pablos> lol, oh sorry Katana, mis-taken iden-tity
[02:59] <Pablos> :)
[02:59] <Qube> sure I used to think Katana was a girl until 6 months ago
[02:59] <Katana> no problem (my nick used to be Katana` but since the other guy has finally l
[02:59] <Katana> qube...
[02:59] <Katana> Go to hell. Now.
[02:59] <Qube> heh
[02:59] <erf> heh
[03:00] * erf offers out his last Rolo.
[03:00] <Qube> you knew this
[03:00] * Two9A swipes it
[03:00] <Qube> I find it hard to imagine any name ending in "ana" (or maybe just "a") to be m
[03:01] <erf> lol
[03:01] <erf> That's Imran in the same pot
[03:01] <Two9A> Not particularly
[03:01] <Katana> it's because you didn't know what a katana is to begin with
[03:01] <erf> Two9A
[03:01] <Qube> his isn't a pronouncable name
[03:01] <Slaktarn> hay everyone
[03:01] <Two9A> ine-a
[03:01] <Two9A> INTERESTING
[03:01] <Slaktarn> is it just me that have problem to get PHP5 work whit IIS
[03:01] <Qube> if I said "too-nigh-nah" then yes, he would be a girl
[03:02] <Slaktarn> !rules
[03:02] <Qube> Slaktarn, just you
[03:02] <Pablos> brb
[03:03] <YorT> i need a light red which isnt pink looking
[03:03] <Slaktarn> :/
[03:03] <Slaktarn> have try many guids on internet but got wrong en every of them
[03:05] <Two9A> YorT: Make it a deeper red, then brighten
[03:06] <Two9A> (that makes sense!)
[03:06] <YorT> brighten how?
[03:06] <erf> With photoshop
[03:06] <Two9A> iunno
[03:06] <apathy--> de-darkenify it
[03:06] <YorT> :)
[03:06] <Two9A> deinterlace, despeckle, dedarkify
[03:07] <Slaktarn> not mutch help i get here ,/
[03:07] <YorT> Slaktarn what issue?
[03:07] <Two9A> Slaktarn: From what I recall, it's quite simple to get php5 running under iis
[03:07] <YorT> i dont know how to use it with IIS, but i thought it did work
[03:07] <Two9A> Been a while since I tried, though
[03:07] <YorT> MS sunk millions into it
[03:07] <YorT> fastcgi
[03:07] <erf> Slaktarn: you have to remember that 99% of the people in here will use apache +
[03:08] <erf> or anything except IIS + php
[03:08] <Katana> they won't use lighttpd ?
[03:08] <Katana> damn
[03:08] <Two9A> "anything except iis"
[03:13] <Slaktarn> dunno
[03:13] <Slaktarn> it not even start
[03:13] <Slaktarn> it just shows page can´t view i gus
[03:15] <Slaktarn> now its just a blank page
[03:15] <mazzanet> 7
[03:16] <Slaktarn> hehe
[03:16] <Slaktarn> php 4.4.4 and IIS work whitout eny problem
[03:16] <yaragn> IIS?
[03:16] <Slaktarn> yes
[03:16] <Two9A> "what is iis"
[03:16] <Slaktarn> lol
[03:17] <Slaktarn> Internet Information Services
[03:17] <Slaktarn> and even if not ppl use it it shuld work as it do whitapache
[03:18] <Slaktarn> i try yesterday to get it work whit apache but never get that to work ethe
[03:18] <Slaktarn> i used 2.2 maybe you shuld use 2.0
[03:19] <Slaktarn> think i googel somethinga about that but i use IIS if i don´t relly need t
[03:20] <YorT> crap
[03:20] <YorT> hmm
[03:20] <Slaktarn> well
[03:20] <Slaktarn> maybe not everyone think like you do ?
[03:22] <Two9A> He was saying "crap" as in "crap, that sounds like a bad situation"
[03:22] <Slaktarn> but still
[03:22] <Slaktarn> why is the damn page blank :D
[03:22] <Slaktarn> it shuld show the php info lol
[03:22] <Two9A> I can't help you, and I don't think anyone here can
[03:23] <Slaktarn> :(
[03:23] <Slaktarn> never liked apache
[03:23] <Slaktarn> have seen a few guids on internet
[03:23] <Slaktarn> but nothing in them work
[03:26] <erf> GUIDES
[03:26] <Two9A> GUIDs
[03:26] <erf> heh
[03:26] <yaragn> {3F2504E0-4F89-11D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301} ?
[03:26] <erf> That's a GUID
[03:27] <Two9A> That's a UUID
[03:27] <erf> Then what's a GUID?
[03:27] <Two9A> {3F2504E0-4F89-11D3-9A0C-0305E82C3301}
[03:27] <erf> ...
[03:27] * Two9A watches erf dig around for the banhammer
[03:28] <yaragn> !kick Two9A nah
[03:28] <yaragn> didn't that used to work
[03:28] <Two9A> Sure, but I'm on the protected list!
[03:28] <yaragn> o
[03:28] <Two9A> !kick Two9A Maybe
[03:28] <Two9A> Or maybe the bot just isn't here.. ;D
[03:29] <impl> huhu
[03:29] <yaragn> !kick qmq test
[03:29] <yaragn> :(
[03:29] <erf> !kick yaragn test
[03:30] <erf> 11:30 -ponies(trancer@suid.pl)- sorry, yaragn is a protected user
[03:30] <Two9A> Hacker
[03:30] <yaragn> i get nothing from ponies
[03:30] <yaragn> perhaps my flags have been unset
[03:30] <Two9A> Mm, I got nothing
[03:30] <Two9A> Maybe Si has THE POWER
[03:30] <yaragn> Muhahahah
[03:30] <yaragn> fear me now
[03:30] * Two9A tremors
[03:30] <yaragn> damn
[03:30] <Two9A> FEEL that power
[03:31] <yaragn> in!
[03:31] <yaragn> in
[03:31] <erf> shake it all about!
[03:31] <Two9A> Old
[03:31] * yaragn shakes it all about
[03:32] <yaragn> Two9A: there's rarely anything new
[03:32] <YorT> firebug is awesome
[03:38] <NiteLiteW> that it is
[03:38] <psyd> i guess there are alot of wordpress hackers in here. what possible reasons wou
[03:39] <NiteLiteW> we generally dont bother helping with third party scripts
[03:39] <yaragn> we generally dont bother helping
[03:39] <psyd> heh, sweet.. problem is that everyone in #wordpress is sleeping..
[03:39] <yaragn> you should try ##php on freenode
[03:40] <psyd> ok, will do.
[03:41] <impl> luls
[03:43] <erf> ~/ Watergate doesn't bother me, does your conscience bother you? /~
[03:46] <jome> Hiz
[03:46] <erf> Hiz
[03:46] <erf> Who banned Kidlvr?
[03:46] <jome> Shai-Tan :)
[03:46] <erf> Awesome
[03:46] <Kidlvr> hey Qube still need 1 more?
[03:47] <erf> The better question is, would he want someone that's nearly exiled from the cha
[03:47] <Kidlvr> If he needs 1 more to make up the numbers then sure
[03:48] <Two9A> But you'll take down the whole server
[03:48] <Two9A> FOR FUN
[03:49] <Two9A> One of the "rules" for being on that server is "not being an asshole"
[03:49] <jome> I don't see that rule!
[03:50] <Two9A> Thus quoted
[03:50] <Kidlvr> I see the "don't take the piss"
[03:50] <Two9A> Which you would, because you're an idiot
[03:50] <Kidlvr> Which I won't. I understand the machine is US based?
[03:50] <Katana> it only applies to new users
[03:50] <Katana> what "machine" ?
[03:50] <jome> Two9A: :D
[03:50] <Two9A> Katana: Qube's got a VPS box
[03:51] <Kidlvr> Two9A, all I will be doing is letting people upload 10mb files to it and the
[03:51] <Shai-Tan> we should make ashley a speshul perm ban
[03:51] <Kidlvr> Why Shai-Tan? I help people :\
[03:54] <Kruge> Kill him.
[03:54] <erf> I think we should too.
[03:54] <erf> Shai-Tan: do it
[03:55] <jome> What did Kidlvr do? :o
[03:55] * jome is just curious
[03:55] <Kidlvr> Being sociable, kind, friendly, approachable.
[03:55] <Kidlvr> These are my crimes and I get treated like a Scientologist.
[03:56] <apathy--> saying things which irritate people, quite often
[03:56] <jome> Ok
[03:56] <Kidlvr> Ban evading, add that to your list - which I haven't done in about 2 months.
[03:58] <Kidlvr> Is the whole ftp segment of php a feasible way of transferring a file? I wou
[03:59] <jome> Kidlvr: FTP in PHP works
[03:59] <Kidlvr> Sounds like there should be a "however.."
[03:59] <jome> Right, PHP is not for filetransfers :)
[03:59] <apathy--> ftp works just dandy in php
[04:00] <jome> Indeed
[04:00] <Kidlvr> of course, the files themselves are between 3 and 10mb and im not sure what
[04:00] <Kidlvr> and then finally, send it back.
[04:02] <YorT> Kidlvr hmmm
[04:02] <YorT> so you guys know how im awesome right
[04:02] <YorT> i just put together something else which is more awesome!
[04:02] <jome> a child?
[04:02] <apathy--> a noose?
[04:03] <Qube> Kinder Surprise toy?
[04:03] <Kidlvr> Im just a bit weary that the procwatch on Dreamhost shared hosting will kill
[04:04] <YorT> KINDER!
[04:04] * Kidlvr did some work for Kinder not too long ago
[04:04] <YorT> Kidlvr dude, to make money you need to spend money
[04:04] <YorT> get a dedicated server and go from there
[04:04] <YorT> mediatemple is the way to go
[04:05] <Kidlvr> YorT, I already have two.
[04:05] <Kidlvr> But this is for a different operation based in the US.
[04:05] <jome> Another facebook app, Kidlvr? ;)
[04:05] <Kidlvr> Possibly.
[04:05] <apathy--> make one based on scrabble!
[04:06] <apathy--> I hear there's a gap in facebook for that now :)
[04:06] <Kidlvr> Write me the game for that then apathy--.
[04:06] <Qube> for us/canada
[04:06] <Derick> apathy--: there is an official scrabble app too
[04:06] <YorT> i have used facebook once
[04:06] <YorT> that was about 2 years ago
[04:06] <jome> Are you still in Norway, Derick? ;)
[04:06] <Derick> yes
[04:06] <jome> Weather as awesome as here?
[04:07] <Derick> jome: are you still a dirty swede? :)
[04:07] <Derick> yes - very nice right now
[04:07] <jome> Derick: Haha, yes, for one more week!
[04:07] <Derick> oh? what then?
[04:07] <jome> Boston, US, for a year
[04:07] <jome> Derick: No vacation left to take out to spend outside?
[04:08] * jome is gonna leave work in a few minutes
[04:08] <jome> Hello Pablos
[04:09] <Kidlvr> YorT: looking at media temple, what the christ is "short path bandwith"?
[04:09] <jome> I'm guessing it refers to the number of hops
[04:09] <apathy--> probably using shorter hops to avoid latency is my guess
[04:09] * apathy-- highfives jome
[04:09] <jome> ^%!
[04:09] <jome> Err, ^5!
[04:10] <Kidlvr> Ah right.
[04:11] <Kidlvr> You hear the plan Virgin Media had? They will be (on purpose) slowing down Y
[04:12] <YorT> how do you open links in new windows?
[04:12] <YorT> target=" ?
[04:12] <YorT> _new'
[04:12] <YorT> yay
[04:12] <Kidlvr> yeh
[04:12] <Kidlvr> I think thats deprecated though.
[04:12] <YorT> wait, that opens 1 new one, i need it to open a new one each time the link it
[04:12] <Kidlvr> Or atleast frowned upon.
[04:13] <Kidlvr> target="_blank"
[04:13] <YorT> there we go
[04:13] <YorT> thanks
[04:13] <Kidlvr> np/
[04:15] <Kidlvr> YorT, I think you should use javascript to open links to new windows though.
[04:15] <Kidlvr> Its seen as more accessable and honorable.
[04:16] <Kidlvr> Thats what we have to do here at work atleast.
[04:19] <apathy--> for some reason the XHTML 1.0 strict standard made target= deprecated
[04:20] <Kidlvr> yup
[04:20] <apathy--> retards
[04:20] <apathy--> they should have just altered the spec I think
[04:20] <apathy--> target='_tab'
[04:20] <apathy--> that kind of thing
[04:20] <flowOver> i've given up having non js users within my scope now
[04:21] <Kidlvr> So we put rel="external" and have javascript that forces any link with rel="
[04:21] <apathy--> what's the js code for that?
[04:21] <mykz-> that's hot
[04:21] <Kidlvr> hangon ill try and find it
[04:22] <Kidlvr> Uses the same basis as Lightbox
[04:22] <YorT> this is awesome!
[04:22] <YorT> gotta work on a search feature next
[04:22] <YorT> hmm
[04:24] <Kidlvr> our script also puts a small external image next to the link (part of the cs
[04:26] <YorT> ooo now thats a bug
[04:27] <yaragn> don't use strict
[04:27] <apathy--> I don't :)
[04:27] <YorT> hwo would i select all non unique items from a column?
[04:27] <apathy--> GROUP and COUNT ?
[04:27] <yaragn> you count
[04:27] <YorT> apathy-- .. i tried, but no go :(
[04:28] <yaragn> subselect?
[04:28] <YorT> can you use count() inside of a where statement?
[04:28] <yaragn> select c1.city_id, c2.city_id, c1.city_name from cities c1, cities c2 where
[04:28] <yaragn> inner join on self
[04:29] <YorT> hmm, i wonder if sqlite supports inner joins
[04:29] <YorT> please hold caller
[04:29] <yaragn> it bloody ought to
[04:29] <yaragn> yes it does
[04:29] <apathy--> SELECT COUNT(col) as cnt, col FROM table WHERE cnt > 1 GROUP BY col
[04:29] <apathy--> ?
[04:29] <Qube> yargs, thats just drop the last one?
[04:29] <Qube> so you'll get 2 out of 3 ?
[04:30] <yaragn> what?
[04:30] <YorT> SQL error: misuse of aggregate:
[04:30] <Qube> you are deduping on city_name ?
[04:30] <yaragn> yes
[04:31] <Qube> so if there are 3 rows with the same value.. you're inner join will return the
[04:31] <syc> apathy--: GROUP BY col HAVING cnt > 1 .......
[04:31] <yaragn> yes
[04:31] <yaragn> think so
[04:31] <Qube> what was the point of that again? :)
[04:32] <yaragn> yort asked?
[04:32] <yaragn> i assume you would want to delete just the duplicates not originals
[04:33] <Qube> ah right... "non unique"
[04:33] <YorT> you gusy rule!!!
[04:33] <YorT> syc!
[04:33] <yaragn> heh
[04:33] <Qube> I'm figuring he asked the wrong question
[04:33] <YorT> select count(serial) as cnt, id from productserials group by serial having cnt
[04:33] <YorT> that did it :)
[04:33] <Qube> id->serial ?
[04:33] <YorT> id is the primary key
[04:34] <YorT> hmm infact, this is gonna be a bigger job then i thought
[04:34] <Qube> odd, usually your aggregate and value are the same column name
[04:34] <Qube> what use is an arbitrary id?
[04:34] <YorT> select id from productserials group by serial having count(serial) > 1;
[04:34] <YorT> nice
[04:34] <YorT> Qube eh?
[04:35] <Qube> well thats different entirely
[04:35] <syc> YorT: settle down!
[04:35] <YorT> hmm, infact that wont work
[04:35] <YorT> i need to delete all rows of data which have 1 or more details the same
[04:35] <YorT> details = serial
[04:35] <Qube> YorT, 1 or more ;)
[04:36] <YorT> this will simply delete them all
[04:36] <Qube> truncate table;
[04:36] <Qube> yort is having a "explain the problem" difficultly :p
[04:36] <YorT> ok
[04:36] <YorT> ill start over :)
[04:36] <Qube> I'm have a spellign difficulty
[04:37] <Two9A> I See What You Did There
[04:37] <YorT> i have a db, which records all serial numbers in this system, the problem i ha
[04:37] <YorT> then i can apply the unique constraint to it
[04:38] <YorT> make sense?
[04:38] <Kidlvr> apathy-- | mykz-: http://pastebin.com/m36d49de2
[04:39] <Qube> I think yarg's original inner join is your best approach
[04:39] <Qube> chaneg the < to >
[04:39] <Qube> that'll drop the first row with that serial and return the rest for your delet
[04:40] <yaragn> i didn't invent the inner join
[04:40] <Qube> I wouldn't put it into a DELETE FROM query tho... you can't do that on joins
[04:40] <Qube> (and if you can in some dbs, I wouldn't anyway)
[04:41] <YorT> its going for it!
[04:41] <YorT> how do i know if this is right or not? :)
[04:41] <YorT> ah fuck it ill just delete them
[04:42] <Qube> make a backup
[04:42] <Qube> I know you did already
[04:42] <DiGi`_> i need so much coffee right now
[04:42] <Qube> like the minion who decided to update a customer's dialup password directly vi
[04:43] <YorT> lol
[04:43] <YorT> Qube yeah im doing backup :)
[04:43] <YorT> db is going crazy!
[04:44] <krikey> hi. Whats the best wat to carry out a wordcount on a paragraph containing al
[04:44] <krikey> I was wodering about some kind of regex
[04:44] <YorT> ok, thats odd, same serial twice!
[04:45] <YorT> but for different products!
[04:45] <krikey> str_word_count is a bit limited
[04:45] <rav0> what are your word separaters?
[04:45] <Qube> krikey, what more do you want?
[04:45] <rav0> i would guess using space and newline would works most of the time
[04:48] <krikey> i was using preg_split("/([\s.])/",$data...
[04:48] <YorT> Qube you ever worked on systems which track order history? eg. multiple versio
[04:48] <YorT> Qube kind of like snapshots
[04:49] <Kidlvr> such as changing the address?
[04:49] <YorT> sorta, you change the address, but then you can see what it used to be
[04:49] <krikey> how would I write a regex to check for a space OR a linebreak?
[04:49] <YorT> you change it again, you can see what it was going back 3 times (current, prev
[04:49] <Kidlvr> ok, well surely you can have a flag coloumn to identify if that row is legac
[04:50] <YorT> krikey /[ \n\r]/
[04:50] <YorT> Kidlvr effectively yes
[04:50] <Kidlvr> 1 = old row, 0 is default and can be the current data
[04:50] <Kidlvr> That should solve your problem right?
[04:50] <Qube> krikey, '/\s/ms'
[04:50] <YorT> i have version control
[04:50] <YorT> Kidlvr what if i have 20 changes?
[04:50] <YorT> 100 changes?
[04:50] <YorT> 10,000 changes?
[04:51] <Kidlvr> How many people update their address 20 times?
[04:51] <YorT> you used the example of an addres
[04:51] <YorT> i didnt :)
[04:51] <Qube> YorT, yes / sorta... nothing i'd recommend tho
[04:51] <YorT> Qube poop
[04:51] <Kidlvr> YorT, give me an example then.
[04:51] <TBF> [12:48] <YorT> Qube you ever worked on systems which track order history?
[04:51] <Qube> Opportunities / Quotes tend to have multiple revisions
[04:51] <YorT> Qube i want to work out the progression of an ETA :)
[04:51] <TBF> This was addressed by a decent blog entry recently.
[04:51] * TBF finds bookmark if possible
[04:52] <TBF> re: http://database-programmer.blogspot.com/2008/07/history-tables.html
[04:52] <TBF> Have a read and see if it helps.
[04:52] <Qube> well "there can only be one" order
[04:52] <Qube> what are they modifying?
[04:52] <DiGi`_> o/~ iiii don't wanna work... i just wanna bank on the drum all day o/~
[04:53] <YorT> Qube in this case im monitoring the status of an order and tracking changes
[04:53] <DiGi`_> *bang
[04:53] <YorT> Qube eg. line 1 has a ship date of tomorrow, then tomorrow comes and it shifts
[04:53] <Qube> YorT, that's not a simple thing
[04:54] <DiGi`_> ur not a simple thing!
[04:54] <Two9A> u r
[04:54] <YorT> i got the recording of the details working atm, just gotta work out the progre
[04:54] <DiGi`_> no u
[04:54] <Two9A> I should be working
[04:54] <Two9A> Note how I'm not
[04:54] <DiGi`_> me too
[04:54] <DiGi`_> i didn't even leave my house yet
[04:54] <DiGi`_> i have to go hop in the shower
[04:54] <dG_> yello all
[04:55] <Qube> I would either add a audit trail table for changes, or add a whole new row wit
[04:55] <DiGi`_> well, not hop, i would probably slip and hurt myself
[04:55] <DiGi`_> but
[04:55] <DiGi`_> j00 know
[04:55] <Qube> I've done both
[04:55] <YorT> Qube yip i got audit trail
[04:55] <YorT> Qube i hash all the results, and store that in a db which has a version column
[04:55] <Qube> depends on what you need out of the system
[04:56] <YorT> i guess im going to have alot of joins and sub selects todo most of this stuff
[04:56] <Qube> for that? no... I'd say none
[04:56] <YorT> o ok
[04:56] <YorT> erf me?
[04:56] <Qube> just wrap up your update calls in a class or function that takes care of track
[04:57] <YorT> k
[04:58] <Two9A> YorT: erf was referring to the earlier discussion
[04:58] <YorT> ahh ok
[04:58] <Two9A> This is why I have non-channel messages in another window ;)
[04:59] <erf> Yeah.
[04:59] <erf> Hey digitok
[04:59] <YorT> crap its tomorrow already
[05:00] <digitok> ?
[05:00] * raidghos1 is now known as raidghost
[05:00] <Katana> no, it's yesterday
[05:00] <Two9A> It is tomorrow.
[05:00] <digitok> you need something erf?
[05:00] <Two9A> It's still yesterday in Alaska
[05:00] <Two9A> digitok: Jesus Christ, man, he was only saying hi
[05:00] <Katana> but is it gonna be tomorrow in Alaska (tomorrow ?)
[05:00] <YorT> ok im off to bed people
[05:00] <Two9A> Katana: It'll be today tomorrow
[05:00] <YorT> good night
[05:00] * YorT sleeps
[05:00] <Two9A> okbai
[05:00] <digitok> he never talks to me any other time
[05:01] <digitok> why say hi
[05:01] <Two9A> HI
[05:01] <digitok> ~gone
[05:01] <erf> ...
[05:02] <Two9A> He doesn't like us. He never did
[05:06] <Kidlvr> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080730/ap_on_re_us/woman_in_bathroom
[05:06] <rav0> yahoo porn?
[05:07] <Kidlvr> Lol, man got jailed cos his wife wouldn't get off the bog
[05:12] <slacker_> is there a way to have an IP whitelist for windows RDP?
[05:12] <erf> Setup a firewall that only listens for connections from those IPs?
[05:12] <slacker_> grr wtf
[05:12] <slacker_> how is rdp "THE BEST" if it doesn't even have any features like that
[05:13] <erf> Because it's usable
[05:13] <erf> It's fast
[05:13] <ilon> I'm having some trouble when i try to use the setClass() on a SoapServer
[05:14] <ilon> when i http://pastebin.com/d912ce7e
[05:14] <ilon> getting that error
[05:14] <ilon> when i place my functions in a class, and tries to add the class
[05:15] <ilon> when i comment out the class and using the addFunction() instead it works
[05:15] <ilon> what could be wrong?
[05:18] <Two9A> VNC doesn't have a whitelist!
[05:19] <ilon> ?
[05:19] <erf> If you wanted stuff like white lists, you'd send a lot of money to citrix for t
[05:19] <erf> Because it's enterprisey
[05:20] <Kidlvr> Citrix sucks
[05:21] <erf> No it doesn't
[05:21] <Kidlvr> I did some work for BMS Group and we had to use Citrix and then use VNC thro
[05:21] <erf> It works pretty well
[05:21] <erf> That's your crap setup, if it's setup correctly it's fine
[05:21] <Kidlvr> Maybe it does, but in the scenario which scared my mind, it sucked.
[05:22] <Kidlvr> This company -> http://www.bmsgroup.co.uk/
[05:22] <impl> why are you blogging into the window of my irc client
[05:23] <Kidlvr> Oh sorry am I wasting your bandwith?
[05:24] <erf> Yes, and you do so every time you enter this channel
[05:24] <Kidlvr> Stop trolling me.
[05:24] <impl> why are you blogging into the window of my irc client
[05:27] <dG_> These pretzels are making me thirsty
[05:27] <ilon> http://pastebin.com/d6944f31f
[05:27] <ilon> getting this -> http://pastebin.com/d912ce7e error when i try to access it
[05:28] <ilon> if i instead comment out the class, and use the addFunction() instead of setCl
[05:29] <impl> ReflectionException: Cannot determine default value for internal functions in
[05:29] <impl> PHP >:OOOOOO
[05:32] <slacker_> GRRRRR
[05:32] <slacker_> WHY am i allergic to water
[05:32] <slacker_> no one on earth should be -_-
[05:32] <Kidlvr> lolwut?
[05:32] <Kidlvr> Your not serious?
[05:33] <slacker_> if i come out of the pool, the shower, the ocean, if i wash my face, i hav
[05:33] <slacker_> every fucking time
[05:33] <Two9A> slacker_: That's the temperature delta
[05:33] <Two9A> Don't wash your face, it's already been washed
[05:33] <slacker_> what temperature /_\
[05:34] <Kidlvr> Aquagenous urticaria is such a rare condition that there are less than thirt
[05:34] <Kidlvr> People don't sneeze - they itch.
[05:34] <slacker_> i sneeze.
[05:35] <Kidlvr> "one theory suggests that unusual proteins in Heidi's system react to the wa
[05:35] <Kidlvr> Ahahahaha! She cries and she gives herself something to cry for!
[05:35] <impl> why are you blogging into the window of my irc client
[05:36] <Kidlvr> impl, Q_Q
[05:36] <syc> Kidlvr: stay on topic, php only.
[05:36] <Two9A> Because he should've been banned 4 months ago
[05:36] <erf> Don't join/part/join again
[05:36] <Two9A> Time for a childish joinflood, I see
[05:36] <rav0> Kidlvr- nvm, listen to erf
[05:36] <Kidlvr> Was an accident. I typed /hop as auto join kicked in.
[05:36] <impl> well, that could have been a mistake
[05:36] <erf> heh
[05:36] <Two9A> Not much of a kicktoy if you ban
[05:36] <rav0> i think it is fridy on mars
[05:36] <rav0> friday
[05:36] <syc> damn abusive aussies
[05:37] <rav0> quiet, syc
[05:37] <Shai-Tan> syc: you should not speak of rav0 that way
[05:37] <syc> rav0: you're not abusive, you're smelly
[05:37] <rav0> no
[05:37] <Shai-Tan> rav0: where abouts are you?
[05:37] <erf> I guess he's not coming back
[05:37] <rav0> i sat on the train and got somebody's perfume on me and now i don't smell
[05:37] <syc> erf: he already did, kainam
[05:37] <rav0> Liverpool
[05:38] <erf> syc: Different IP
[05:38] <Shai-Tan> ewww
[05:38] <Shai-Tan> WESTY!!!
[05:38] <syc> erf: a hacker!
[05:38] <rav0> south thx
[05:38] <rav0> south-west maybe
[05:38] <Qube> Two9a, does Türkiye .tr registry have automated or manual handling for changes
[05:38] <Two9A> Absolutely no idea
[05:38] <Qube> k :)
[05:38] <erf> That's better, I just turned my desk phone to silent
[05:39] <Two9A> You'd be better off asking me about .cx
[05:39] <Two9A> (about which I still know nothing)
[05:39] <syc> can we make our own TLD's now with all chinese characters? i can't wait for tha
[05:40] <erf> I can, I'm just going to block all custom tlds
[05:40] <Qube> DNS in this place is a train wreak
[05:41] <erf> So is ours, we keep getting DNS poisoned.
[05:41] <erf> Ashley hasn't come back yet, I wanted to see if he join/part/join again
[05:41] <erf> he'd*
[05:41] <Katana> errr question
[05:41] <yaragn> no bets
[05:42] <Katana> you took me for a girl because of my nickname, and Ashley is a "he" ?
[05:42] <erf> Yeah
[05:42] <yaragn> do bots have genders?
[05:42] <rav0> the train was too full today (though i left at 6_ plus it was a shitty train
[05:42] <erf> Ashley is a common guys name in the UK
[05:42] <Katana> seriously ?
[05:42] <erf> Yeah
[05:42] <Katana> my god...
[05:42] <Katana> again: seriously ??
[05:42] <rav0> i know guy and girl ahsleys
[05:43] <Katana> i'm gonna accept that...
[05:43] <Qube> TLD .tj is screwed whatever that is
[05:43] <tomalak> i'd say it's more common as a guy's name in the UK than as a girl's name
[05:44] * Katana is impressed
[05:44] <tomalak> Ashleigh is often the female equivalent
[05:44] <impl> KATANA!
[05:44] <rav0> too much effory to write that^^
[05:44] * Katana hides
[05:44] <tomalak> true :)
[05:44] <impl> You're back, but without the `!
[05:44] <Katana> yeah, the other fucker left :p
[05:44] <impl> :D
[05:44] <Katana> i came back to celebrate my 10th year on this channel
[05:45] <impl> haha, damn
[05:45] <Katana> (i'm lying, it's probably sometimes next year)
[05:45] <Qube> loser ;)
[05:45] <tomalak> today?
[05:45] <impl> You're old like feti :>
[05:45] <tomalak> oh
[05:45] <Qube> as much as the rest of us
[05:45] <Katana> no no, i have no idea where i first joined :)
[05:45] <Katana> yeah, i guess so
[05:45] <Qube> at least you got a life outside of here
[05:45] <yaragn> i think i first joined in 98 or so?
[05:45] <Katana> the first times I came, Rasmus was still sitting around on this channel
[05:45] <erf> I first joined in 2001.
[05:45] <Katana> i can't say for sure... late 90s
[05:45] <Shai-Tan> ooh, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/WYSE-WY-60-COMPUTER-TERMINALS-MONITORS-AND-KEY
[05:45] <erf> If not a little before
[05:45] <Katana> 98 or 99
[05:46] <Katana> when was PHP 3.0 released ?
[05:46] <impl> I want to say 1998
[05:46] <impl> 4 was released in 2000 iirc
[05:46] <Katana> oh, 4, not 3
[05:46] <erf> I joined around PHP4.0.1
[05:46] <Katana> i joined a bit before 4.0 came out... so maybe it was 2000 after all
[05:46] <Katana> not getting younger :(
[05:47] <yaragn> i was php 3.1 i think
[05:47] <tomalak> www.google.com/search?q=php+wiki
[05:47] <Katana> impressive
[05:47] <tomalak> nice table for you
[05:47] <erf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP
[05:48] <Two9A> erf: tomalak was trying to prove a point
[05:48] <Katana> yep, 4.0 in may 2000, that's it
[05:48] <yaragn> i like the way we associate it with version numbers
[05:49] <erf> heh
[05:49] <Katana> well, it's kinda related to the reason we came here in the first place :)
[05:49] <yaragn> i associate it with my office !
[05:49] <erf> I've got two years until I've been here for 10 years.
[05:49] <Katana> high five erf !
[05:49] <yaragn> i haven't been here 10 years continuously
[05:49] <yaragn> i have a life you know!!!
[05:49] <Katana> i can't say that... and I probably won't be here tomorrow ;)
[05:49] <erf> ^5
[05:50] <erf> Wow, 8 years to get ops in this dump :)
[05:50] <Shai-Tan> maybe I should just build a new pc...
[05:50] <yaragn> think i got ops quite early
[05:50] <Katana> took me 4 month I think...
[05:50] <yaragn> didn't really deserve it
[05:50] <erf> Not bad since I've never helped more than 20 people
[05:50] <Katana> maybe 6. The channel barely had 200 users back then
[05:50] <yaragn> as if you get rewarded for helping people in life
[05:51] <yaragn> of which 12 were active
[05:51] <Katana> you get rewarded for fucking people
[05:51] <yaragn> amen
[05:51] <erf> I like to think I got ops because I treated people like bastards.
[05:51] <Katana> you're right
[05:51] <impl> Yeah, I can't imagine any other reason you have it
[05:52] <impl> Do you even know PHP?
[05:52] <yaragn> i think i gave bad2da a blow job
[05:52] <Katana> bad2da... HE was a badass
[05:52] <impl> !seen bad2da
[05:52] <impl> over half a year ;>
[05:52] <Katana> :)
[05:53] <Katana> wasn't `Sauron his bot ?
[05:53] <erf> impl, sure, I know PHP
[05:53] <yaragn> he had loads of bots
[05:53] <impl> haha
[05:53] * Katana has been using php for 8 years now...
[05:53] <yaragn> i think all from the same net tho
[05:53] <erf> impl, I'm coding in PHP right now.
[05:53] <yaragn> i am looking at porn
[05:53] <impl> lies
[05:53] <tomalak> no you're typing on IRC
[05:53] <Katana> i'm reading news :p^
[05:54] <[-tC-]> the cake is a lie
[05:54] <rav0> [2008-07-30 22:53:44] <+yaragn> i am looking at porn
[05:54] <rav0> [2008-07-30 22:53:52] <tomalak> no you're typing on IRC
[05:54] <rav0> ^^ he's a geek
[05:54] <rav0> same thing
[05:54] <yaragn> can't it be both
[05:54] <Katana> don't touch his keyboard
[05:54] <rav0> [2008-07-30 22:53:56] <@Katana> i'm reading news :p^
[05:54] <rav0> no, you're typing on irc
[05:55] <Katana> two screens, and a dual core brain
[05:55] <Katana> is that okay ?
[05:55] <[-tC-]> ey.. do something usefull :p
[05:55] <rav0> sorry i didn't realise there were girls on #php
[05:55] <Shai-Tan> http://phpro.org/quotes -> <yaragn> i have to say, as amazing as
[05:55] <rav0> i'll add it to the list
[05:55] <Katana> hahaha
[05:55] <deleet> GRAMER
[05:55] <erf> hahaha
[05:55] <deleet> massive fail.
[05:55] <rav0> heheheheh i lolod
[05:55] <Katana> dumble
[05:55] <Katana> fumble even
[05:56] <yaragn> possibly delibirate
[05:56] <erf> <jedimind> my cousin was diagnosed w/ schizophrenia
[05:56] <erf> <Biber> so you have more cousins now?
[05:56] <erf> That's one of the better quotes
[05:56] <yaragn> haha
[05:56] <[-tC-]> hehehe
[05:56] <Katana> one of the best ?
[05:57] <Two9A> Hm. Putting a link to a zip file on my dsl, on the xkcd forums
[05:57] <Two9A> Wise choice?
[05:57] <impl> Yes
[05:57] <rav0> there's a forum?
[05:57] <Two9A> rav0: Where did you think the "Forums" link went?
[05:57] <Shai-Tan> xkcd has gone downhill of late
[05:57] <rav0> i look at the pictures
[05:58] <yaragn> <yaragn> ever seen that movie? The Matrix?
[05:58] <yaragn> <yaragn> with those green lines of flying text?
[05:58] <yaragn> <yaragn> *THAT'S* Perl
[05:58] <Two9A> It's fair decent today
[05:58] <yaragn> oh, matrix jokes
[05:58] <yaragn> that must be old
[05:58] <erf> As old as the internet
[05:58] <Two9A> yaragn: Guess what colour my terminal foreground is
[05:58] <erf> green?
[05:58] <Katana> pink
[05:58] <Two9A> Ding
[05:58] <[-tC-]> pink?
[05:58] <Two9A> Many people picked pink, they were incorrect
[05:58] <dG_> pink would be a great choice
[05:58] <yaragn> Two9A: obsidian black
[05:59] <Katana> whooaaaaaaa
[05:59] <Two9A> yaragn: That's the background
[05:59] <Katana> my hero
[05:59] <Two9A> "whoa."
[05:59] <Two9A> You have to get the full stop in there, it's part of the phrasing
[05:59] <yaragn> black on black is the best colour scheme
[05:59] <erf> lol
[05:59] <[-tC-]> my desktop has det most beautyfull img :)
[05:59] <Two9A> I like black on dark grey
[05:59] <yaragn> according to amy winehouse
[05:59] <[-tC-]> the..
[05:59] <rav0> ebony, huh?
[06:00] <Two9A> I do wonder whether I've contravened the "xkcd forum rule" of not posting a l
[06:01] <erf> I want to go to bed.
[06:03] <[-tC-]> here it is: http://www.checkpoint.darktech.org/img/nature_786.jpg
[06:04] <tomalak> do it then
[06:05] <tomalak> Shai-Tan: too much pressure, I suspect
[06:09] <tomalak> yea, most of your phpro.org quotes are awful, unfortunately :)
[06:13] <Two9A> Maybe the xkcd forums aren't as busy as I expected
[06:19] <DiGi`> i need some mofo sleep
[06:19] <Shai-Tan> DiGi`: you joined irc to say that?
[06:19] <DiGi`> yeah
[06:21] <anubis1^> hey could anyone help me with sql query. I know it's not this channel, but
[06:22] <anubis1^> I want to select all records that are in one table but they have to be dif
[06:24] <deleet> well 'or something' doesn't help much
[06:24] <Shai-Tan> like select shit from table where stuff NOT IN (select * from other_tabel)
[06:24] <yaragn> we've only got 4 minutes to save the world
[06:24] <anubis1^> Shai-Tan, yeah probably like this
[06:24] <yaragn> that's how you roll
[06:24] <anubis1^> gimme a sec I'll check if that's what i mean
[06:24] <anubis1^> ;)
[06:25] <slacker_> when a mouse selects an entire paragraph when you click (stuck in that stu
[06:25] <yaragn> browser bug
[06:25] <slacker_> no, every application
[06:25] <yaragn> try right clicking
[06:25] <slacker_> works
[06:25] <yaragn> doesn't undo it?
[06:25] <slacker_> nope
[06:25] <yaragn> could be sticky keys then
[06:27] * DiGi`_ is now known as DiGi`
[06:29] <Two9A> Looks like no-one trusts a .zip linked in a forum
[06:29] <erf> lol
[06:29] <Two9A> No downloads in an hour!
[06:29] <erf> Who would?
[06:29] <Two9A> Mind you, someone might be trying to download it at 3k/s
[06:29] <erf> What's in the zip?
[06:30] <Two9A> unxutils
[06:30] <mykz-> i hate working for retards!
[06:30] <slacker_> mykz-: good luck in life
[06:30] <erf> I didn't know you was self employed
[06:31] <DiGi`> haha
[06:31] <yaragn> http://www.unforgettable.dk/
[06:31] <DiGi`> yaragn
[06:31] <yaragn> hey digi
[06:31] <yaragn> 43k zip = 4.5PB of data :)
[06:32] <Two9A> Imposable
[06:32] <Kruge> Imposing
[06:32] <Two9A> Unless, of course, it's all 0's
[06:33] <mykz-> harsh erf!
[06:33] <erf> :)
[06:34] <erf> I assume callum either found someone else or doesn't want a VPN now
[06:36] <erf> There's no way I'm going to stay awake before I go home at 5
[06:37] <DiGi`> erf, i didn't get home till 4 :/
[06:37] <DiGi`> and was up by 7:30
[06:37] <Shai-Tan> scat is fine, but I want something more from pr0n
[06:38] <DiGi`> ehe
[06:39] <deleet> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:39] <anubis1^> can i use defines in switch ?
[06:39] <anubis1^> define("SOMETHING", 1);
[06:39] <anubis1^> $var = SOMETHING;
[06:39] <Shai-Tan> anubis1^: did you try?
[06:40] <anubis1^> switch($var) { case SOMETHING: break; }
[06:40] <Qube> someone tell me what you get when you go to www.borland.com
[06:40] <anubis1^> yes :P
[06:40] <Qube> err www.borland.org
[06:40] <anubis1^> Shai-Tan I get "use of undefined constant..."
[06:40] <impl> Qube: redirects to borland.com
[06:40] <Shai-Tan> Qube: borland.com
[06:40] <Shai-Tan> with a fugly website...
[06:40] <Shai-Tan> that is just aweful
[06:41] <Qube> ful of awe
[06:41] <Qube> cool, ok...
[06:41] <Qube> I'm going through our domain list... like 200 domains, most of them going to
[06:42] <Shai-Tan> more like aww my fuggin gard!
[06:42] <deleet> Qube: looks fine to me
[06:42] <Qube> big fat mess... picked borland.org as a test, so it seems to have worked ok
[06:44] <slacker_> hmmmmmmm
[06:44] <slacker_> in excel, what function would I use in a formula to check if a cell contai
[06:45] <slacker_> FIND, apparently
[06:45] <slacker_> ty impl!
[06:50] <feti> i'm so sick of wolfservers.com advertisements
[06:51] <feti> they're as annoying as cha-cha-cha-chia pet ads
[06:52] <erf> mmmm wakame soup
[06:53] <yaragn> aww poor crayon
[06:54] <c0m-> With one of them close to retiring age, the Perrases did a 180. They stopped g
[06:54] <c0m-> of course it worries cc companies
[06:54] <c0m-> they won't make money anymore
[06:54] <Qube> I've stopped spending too
[06:55] <yaragn> i am shopping less frequently at harrods
[06:55] <Two9A> All I buy now is gas
[06:55] <diety> Hi!!!
[06:55] <Qube> bag of museli and cornflakes in work for food.. no more lunches
[06:55] <yaragn> Hello!
[06:55] <yaragn> hamen
[06:55] <yaragn> ramen
[06:55] <diety> I've got a dream of creating a perfect compilation of Misa Campo pics. I need
[06:56] <diety> Please tell me how I can name give a number to all the images, so they are na
[06:57] <c0m-> iterate through them and rename/name them?
[06:57] <yaragn> some kind of for loop
[06:57] <impl> diety: what's a Misa Campo?
[06:57] <diety> yes it needs to take the files in alphabetical order.
[06:57] <diety> A dutch/felipino model
[06:57] <impl> sounds like a Vietnamese restaurant or smth
[06:58] <impl> oh
[06:58] <impl> gay
[06:58] <impl> I want food
[06:58] <diety> NOT WORK FRIENDLY http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-lounge-10/t-sexiest-girl-a
[06:58] <[Pujol]> these are my us navy days
[06:58] <feti> why do i have this feeling....
[06:58] <diety> how can a beautiful woman be gay?
[06:58] <yaragn> good call
[06:59] <feti> i don't even want to know guys ;D
[06:59] <[Pujol]> the first set of communications were to airplane me to washington dc to see
[06:59] <feti> whether it's straight OR gay, he needs banned haha
[06:59] <[Pujol]> and so the navy airplaned me all expense paid to washington dc and back to
[06:59] <aka> it is straight and not porn
[06:59] <aka> it is hot chick
[06:59] <Qube> was that an elaborate GNAA troll?
[06:59] <TBF> How come he was banned? He labelled it as NSFW
[06:59] <c0m-> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/07/29/scrabble.suspended.ap/index.html
[06:59] <feti> well he should know better than to join and spam that in 10 seconds
[06:59] <feti> ah well :D
[06:59] <TBF> Or was it troll content?
[06:59] <apathy--> Qube: I doubt it
[06:59] <DiGi`> i enjoyed the picture
[06:59] <[Pujol]> i remember it was an admiral who interviewed me in washington dc,and he ask
[06:59] <impl> feti: he did say he was trying to create a script to catalog her pictures
[07:00] <Two9A> Damn it, I was gonna do that
[07:00] <Two9A> As soon as I'd installed telnet..
[07:00] <Qube> guys whats with the bans?
[07:00] <yaragn> POW!
[07:00] <feti> impl: oh?
[07:00] <apathy--> Qube; they stop people gaining access to the channel
[07:00] <Two9A> Two gnaa trolls
[07:00] <apathy--> ;)
[07:00] <DiGi`> BANG!
[07:00] <Qube> pfft
[07:00] <erf> owned.
[07:01] <feti> impl: in that case
[07:01] <feti> this is why i don't talk here anymore. i just ban people!
[07:01] <feti> ahhh
[07:01] <impl> lawl
[07:01] * Katana waves at feti
[07:01] <feti> katana!
[07:01] <aka> fuck I am horny
[07:02] <DiGi`> WATCH OUT
[07:02] <Katana> well, it's usually what you do when horny
[07:02] <diety> thanks! sorry about the hyperlink should of put a tinyurl or are all links au
[07:02] <DiGi`> she'll give you the kiss of death!
[07:02] <DiGi`> (wasn't that kitanas fatality in MC)?
[07:02] <TBF> diety, feti thought you were a spammer as you joined and after a few mins, you
[07:02] <Qube> diety, it helps not to be a newbie and post links to pron...
[07:02] <diety> it's not porn
[07:02] <TBF> He labelled the pron as a NSFW label
[07:02] <TBF> heh
[07:03] <impl> Zuu^: dude.
[07:03] <impl> come on.
[07:03] <Qube> we have lots of GNAA "hot sexy" 2-black-men links
[07:03] <feti> lol that's classic
[07:03] <diety> what's NSFW ?
[07:03] <impl> Not Safe For Work
[07:03] <Two9A> diety: Your first piece of text in channel is a porn link, you're not going t
[07:03] <feti> <aka> i'm horny <digi> watch out <katana> that's usually wha
[07:03] <feti> niice
[07:03] <feti> that's bash worthy
[07:03] <Katana> :)
[07:03] <TBF> [14:55] <diety> I've got a dream of creating a perfect compilation of Mis
[07:03] <TBF> [14:56] <diety> Please tell me how I can name give a number to all the im
[07:03] <Zuu^> Just needed to teach mIRC that my main nick was Zuu... apparently it had some
[07:03] <TBF> He didn't immediately state the link
[07:04] <feti> ok don't sit here and turn diety's situation into an argument
[07:04] <feti> it's done with
[07:04] <TBF> He was looking for file renaming help
[07:04] <yaragn> yeah right
[07:04] <apathy--> Zuu^: next time, part the channel and test stuff like that ;)
[07:04] <diety> my first link in channel is a topic on a forum that does not allow porn and w
[07:04] <Two9A> TBF: Sure, and I'm the king of spain
[07:04] <feti> Zuu^: lol
[07:04] <TBF> diety, is there a pattern to the current filenames and the filenames you want?
[07:04] <feti> Zuu^: what's up
[07:04] <feti> diety: what is porn?
[07:04] <Zuu^> apathy--, as soon as i open mIRC is joins channels
[07:05] <diety> no just random pictures that are in the right order when sorted in alphabetic
[07:05] <Zuu^> feti, hai, not much :)
[07:05] <diety> do you consider ecchi manga to be porn?
[07:05] <diety> becaus japanese don't
[07:05] <Two9A> I don't mind the offtopicness, but you've already been banned for spamming li
[07:06] <Zuu^> feti, still coding D?
[07:06] <feti> diety: did you... need help? or are you here to antagonize our opinions about
[07:06] <Two9A> TBF can justify it however he likes, but this isn't his channel, and we're al
[07:06] <Katana> well, if you only came to #php to paste these links, no reason why we should
[07:06] <feti> Zuu^: not as of lately, too busy with work code (python)
[07:06] <diety> i like porn
[07:06] <Katana> s/bad/ban/
[07:06] <feti> jesus
[07:06] <Katana> hahaha
[07:06] <Katana> this was deserved :)
[07:06] <Zuu^> feti, :<
[07:06] <feti> neeeeXT
[07:07] <feti> Katana: where you been lately
[07:07] <TBF> How is this "my" channel?
[07:07] <Katana> around :p
[07:07] <TBF> Two9A, you got some serious problems. heh
[07:07] <Two9A> TBF: Yes, that WAS my point
[07:07] <Two9A> This isn't your channel
[07:07] <zuez> It's one thing to ask stupid questions relating to PHP development, it's anoth
[07:07] <TBF> Yep, again, you do not have to be an OP to make sane comments.
[07:07] <feti> if i like amputees, i *like* amputees!
[07:08] <feti> you can't take that away from me.
[07:08] <Two9A> feti: We all like amputees.
[07:08] <Katana> anyway the fucker had nothing to do on #php
[07:08] <rza> TBF: yes, you do
[07:08] <TBF> I am just suggesting banning people asking for help because they stated a NSFW
[07:08] <zuez> my favorite is midget amputees
[07:08] <zuez> and if they're albino, that only gets my rocks off even faster
[07:08] <apathy--> TBF: he contributed nothing, and even after the first ban he persisted wit
[07:08] <apathy--> he deserved to be removed
[07:08] <TBF> You're now trolling me because of previous issues you have in channels I used/s
[07:09] <Two9A> TBF: File a case with the IRC Complaints Commission
[07:09] <TBF> Heh
[07:09] <TBF> apathy--, that I agree with. Two9A is just baiting me so that I trigger a ban o
[07:09] <Two9A> Damn it, irccc.org is taken
[07:10] <DiGi`> irc3?
[07:10] <Two9A> Sure
[07:10] <Katana> TBF: i totally second feti on that ban
[07:10] <Katana> the ban was even removed after 3 minutes, and this is very generous. Then he
[07:11] <Biber> obviously he shouldn't have tried to debate porn here ^^, but he did ask for
[07:11] <TBF> It's the first ban I was saying was iffy, not him coming back and triggering hi
[07:11] <TBF> Anyhow, this is water under the bridge.
[07:11] <DiGi`> if we can't talk about porn in #bearcave, where can we talk about it!?
[07:11] * DiGi` looks around
[07:11] <Katana> (diety): do you consider ecchi manga to be porn?
[07:11] <Katana> (diety): becaus japanese don't
[07:11] <DiGi`> wrong chan
[07:11] <Two9A> DiGi`: never
[07:11] <Katana> this was the real reason. Waste of our bandwidth.
[07:11] <zuez> Bans don't have 'greylines', if someone who's +o in a channel wants to ban som
[07:12] <Katana> Exactly. All ops are perfectly sane fuckers.
[07:12] <cheerio> I'ma tell Qube!
[07:12] <cheerio> ^_^
[07:12] <Two9A> Qube won't overrule feti and Katana, they'd hunt him down for it
[07:12] <cheerio> lol i was kidding
[07:12] <cheerio> doubt anyone cares
[07:12] <Katana> i'll just throw feti at him :p
[07:12] <Two9A> Hell, feti'd run around with his k-stick
[07:13] <impl> CHANNEL POLITICS ARE FOR FAGGOTS AND LOSERS
[07:13] <Two9A> impl: ur mom
[07:13] <killfile_> SQLyog is full of fail :(
[07:13] <cheerio> haha
[07:13] <Katana> it's not like he has a need for his knees anyway
[07:13] <cheerio> channel politics
[07:13] <killfile_> any suggestions for something better?
[07:13] <Two9A> Katana: Mm, all he does is sit down and code
[07:13] <rza> impl: AND YOURE BOTH
[07:13] <rza> HAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAH
[07:13] <Katana> depends on what you want killfile_...
[07:13] <impl> rza: :(((
[07:13] <impl> rza: You didn't seem to mind!
[07:13] <killfile_> Katana: a MySQL gui that isn't going to make me want to claw my own brain
[07:14] <Two9A> killfile_: Why do you need a gui for mysql, first of all?
[07:14] <Katana> MySQL query browser it is
[07:14] <Two9A> killfile_: And secondly, we use navicat at work
[07:14] <rza> impl: im easy going
[07:14] <Katana> Two9A: stop trolling
[07:14] <killfile_> tbh SQLyog would be perfectly okay if only it had some kind of keep-alive
[07:14] <Two9A> Katana: Can't help it! It's IN MY NATURE
[07:14] <Katana> and it's in my nature to tell you ;)
[07:14] * Two9A sits back down
[07:14] <dG_> I like SQLyog, and, soo far, I didn't need any keep-alive thingie
[07:15] * Katana pats Two9A
[07:15] <DiGi`> <3 phpmyadmin
[07:15] * Katana uses MySQL query browser... not that advanced, but works with any MySQL, and free
[07:15] <killfile_> Two9A: because using the mysqladmin console might be totally 1337 but it'
[07:15] <Two9A> Sure, perfectly agree
[07:15] <Katana> well, it's a HTML interface...
[07:15] <Katana> it helps sometimes, but that's as far as it goes.
[07:15] <Two9A> My colleague uses navicat, I use phpmyadmin :/
[07:15] <dG_> myadmin is nice if ... naa.. :)
[07:16] <dG_> sqlyog has a community version
[07:16] <dG_> and works perfect under wine
[07:18] <killfile_> dG_: it's okay if it's a local server
[07:19] <dG_> I don't have problems with remote servers
[07:19] <dG_> oh, and also, it supports tunneling :D
[07:19] <aka> Navivat is nice
[07:19] <niklas`> nothing with mysql in its name can be good
[07:19] <Katana> ;)
[07:19] <aka> but so are the blacks and at any moment they will steal from your house while y
[07:19] <aka> so
[07:19] <dG_> rofl
[07:20] <aka> niklas`: You pg fan boi?
[07:20] <killfile_> dG_: also, the whole app locks when you run a query
[07:20] <dG_> I remember trying navicat once, don't remember why I came back to sqlyog tho
[07:20] <niklas`> aka: pg and databases who do thinsg properly
[07:21] <niklas`> that say, don't let you create a FK to a non existing table
[07:21] <dG_> killfile_: yeah, that's a pain in the ass in fact, and there are other bugs too
[07:21] <c0m-> aka
[07:21] <dG_> namely, when trying to connect to a server and there's no response.. the all ap
[07:21] <dG_> don't know if it only happens in wine or if its general
[07:21] <aka> yeah
[07:21] <c0m-> .py
[07:21] <aka> k
[07:22] <killfile_> dG_: nah it was always does that
[07:22] <killfile_> basically if i leave it more than a couple of minutes it'll time out and
[07:22] <dG_> damn... that's really a "bug" that I can handle with it (I only use my servers
[07:23] <dG_> however, running query's is kinda boring sometimes
[07:23] <killfile_> if it was just a an OS project i'd be perfectly okay with it, but when i'
[07:23] <dG_> well.. I think i'll give navicat another chance :)
[07:23] <killfile_> it's a little annoying :)
[07:28] * pushgone is now known as _pusher_
[07:30] <spooky> how can i get the first property of a class?
[07:30] <Katana> each( $class ) ? (not sure)
[07:30] <asonge> spooky: $publicProperties = (array) $class;
[07:32] <spooky> could i do: $firstProp = (array) $this[0]; ?
[07:32] <spooky> actually
[07:32] <spooky> lemme test ;\
[07:33] <asonge> spooky: $this[0] would require that you use php.net/spl
[07:33] <Katana> yep
[07:34] <asonge> spooky: casting to an array takes all the public properties and puts them in
[07:34] <Katana> actually: current( $foo )
[07:34] <asonge> Katana: in future releases, object to array conversions will emit a notice
[07:34] <asonge> Katana: it's easier to explicitly cast to an array
[07:35] <Katana> hmmm aren't object properties SUPPOSED to be iterable as arrays ?
[07:35] <asonge> s/easier/safer/
[07:35] <Katana> indeed, and cleaner
[07:35] <Katana> yeah, safer ;)
[07:35] <Kagee> !rules
[07:35] <Katana> thanks for the tip
[07:35] <asonge> they are, it's defined behavior, but so $str .= $array; is defined behavior
[07:35] <Katana> :)
[07:35] <asonge> Katana: i think it's to help catch stuff related to spl iterators and such
[07:35] <Katana> yeah
[07:37] <Katana> asonge: are you the one who contributed to imagick's documentation ?
[07:37] <asonge> yes
[07:38] <Katana> okay :)
[07:38] <asonge> s/contributed/mostly generated/g
[07:38] <Katana> yeah... the previous one was... quick to download
[07:38] <asonge> generating docs is actually a big chore...i think it's easier now, but the s
[07:38] <Katana> congratulations then :)
[07:38] <rza> they are quite easier now
[07:38] <rza> quite alot*
[07:39] <asonge> rza: i don't think those generators were used seriously in over a year when
[07:39] <rza> probably not
[07:39] <rza> i am planning to devote some weekend for the docs
[07:39] <asonge> the new docstructure is great though
[07:39] <rza> yeah
[07:40] <rza> imagick still has a lot undocumented methods / constants
[07:40] <rza> and the "table" is out of date i think
[07:40] <asonge> rza: is the constants.xml worth regenerating?
[07:40] <asonge> rza: i was going to nuke the table and move to lists inside a 4-column 1 row
[07:40] <mrgoose2> anyone looking to move to florida?
[07:40] <rza> http://www.php.net/manual/en/imagick.constants.php
[07:40] <rza> this one
[07:40] <asonge> rza: in fact, i'll go do that now, i've got nothing better to do for today
[07:40] <asonge> yeah, that's constants.xml
[07:40] <asonge> how many missing are there?
[07:41] <rza> i dont know
[07:41] <rza> would be easy to grep imagick src
[07:41] <rza> grep REGISTER * | wc -l
[07:41] <rza> and compare to the amount in constants
[07:41] <rza> a lot of composite ones are missing
[07:41] <asonge> man, i gotta look up cvs login command
[07:42] <rza> cvs -d :psever:asonge@cvs.php.net/repository login phpdoc
[07:42] <Katana> errrk cvs
[07:42] <asonge> Katana: will be svn soon enough
[07:42] <Katana> that is very good news
[07:43] <Katana> i wouldn't wanna be performing the migration though :)
[07:43] <rza> no its not
[07:43] <rza> svn is horrible
[07:43] <Katana> tsss
[07:43] <asonge> i like svn more than cvs...i hate cvs
[07:43] <rza> at least cvs does not allow me to commit over other peoples changes
[07:43] <asonge> in another year it should move on to git though
[07:43] <rza> happened plenty of times in the latest project with svn
[07:43] <Katana> hmmm rza: it doesn't allow it less than SVN
[07:43] <rza> i was in older revision and svn still allowed me to commit over
[07:43] <asonge> rza: svn will merge down transparently, i believe...
[07:43] <Katana> if something has been commited in between, you can't commit
[07:43] <rza> no it doesnt
[07:44] <Katana> i've never been able to do so at least
[07:44] <asonge> rza: you get a C or a transaction out of date
[07:44] <rza> usually it warns if my working copy is older
[07:44] <Katana> yes it does :)
[07:44] <rza> but there was plenty of cases where it didnt
[07:44] <asonge> rza: if changes merge down transparently, it doesn't warn you
[07:44] <rza> i committed ~7 revisions older code
[07:44] <Katana> really ? i don't think i've met one so far...
[07:44] <rza> they didnt merge cleanly
[07:44] <asonge> hrm
[07:44] <rza> conflicting situation
[07:44] <Katana> this is weird
[07:44] <rza> and i erased plenty of code with that
[07:44] <rza> pain to diff by hand and sort out merge
[07:44] <Katana> well, conflicts are to be expected, anyway, but when updating over locally m
[07:45] <rza> but the point was i did not update
[07:45] <Katana> not when commiting over remotely modified code (client should prevent this)
[07:45] <asonge> git is so much better, just gotta wait for the GUI tools
[07:45] <rza> no conflict, no warning
[07:45] <Katana> what SVN client ?
[07:45] <rza> just allowed me to commit happily
[07:45] <rza> subclipse
[07:45] <Katana> yeah, that's why :)
[07:45] <rza> it uses libsvn
[07:45] <Katana> </troll>
[07:45] <Katana> yeah, but still...
[07:45] <Katana> i can swear i've never faced that using TortoiseSVN or the command line clie
[07:46] <Katana> and we do have a big repos
[07:46] <rza> we had the same situation with cli svn also
[07:46] <asonge> Katana: i've always been warned in subclipse
[07:46] <rza> another developer
[07:46] <Katana> i'd call that a bug anyway
[07:46] <rza> it happened two or three times
[07:47] <rza> i would call that piece of shit
[07:47] <Katana> haha
[07:53] <Bushido> hello all
[07:53] <Bushido> anybody knows of any good tutorial on parsing an xml file?
[07:53] <rza> php.net/simplexml
[07:53] <Bushido> I need to loop through some tags and their attributes
[07:53] <section31> how much memory is used on a string, is it one byte per character or is i
[07:54] <Bushido> my server is not configured for ximplexml
[07:54] <rza> Bushido: it should be enabled by default
[07:54] <Kidlvr> heh.
[07:54] <asonge> Bushido: must be php4 then
[07:54] <rza> section31: one byte per normal ascii
[07:54] <asonge> simplexml is enabled by default in php>=5
[07:54] <rza> utf-8 of course takes more
[07:54] <Bushido> yeah ot
[07:54] <Bushido> 4.3.x
[07:54] <Entriple> upgrade :)
[07:55] <section31> rza, how can i tell if i'm using ascii or utf8
[07:55] <rza> Bushido: your on your own
[07:55] <Kidlvr> asonge: should we frown upon people for not using php 5?
[07:55] <section31> i checked my info file and it says charset is not set
[07:55] <section31> default value
[07:55] <rza> section31: if you dont know its one byte per car
[07:55] <rza> char*
[07:55] <asonge> Kidlvr: yes. it's dead.
[07:55] <asonge> php4 is d.e.a.d.
[07:55] * Kidlvr frowns upon Bushido
[07:55] <Bushido> only if these people knew that
[07:55] <Kidlvr> Who are "these people"?
[07:56] <jome> Hi!
[07:56] <rza> Bushido: show them the php.net announcement
[07:56] <Bushido> I'm reading it fine.. but I'm just having some issues with reading differen
[07:56] <Entriple> cpanel box? tell them to update
[07:57] <ebynum> i have just compiled PHP5.2.6 to php-cgi ... but it doesn't seem to be refle
[07:57] <McBeth> ebynum: check phpinfo() for where your php.ini is being loaded from, make su
[07:57] <tomalak> you're doing it wrong
[07:58] <ebynum> phpinfo() says that it is reading from /etc/php5.ini
[07:58] <ebynum> that file did not exist
[07:58] <section31> rza, if its one char per byte, why does this use so much memory http://de
[07:58] <ebynum> so i created one with a few skeleton rules for testing ... is there some goo
[07:59] <ebynum> McBeth: sorry ... previous 3 comments were directed at you ... i tend to for
[07:59] <McBeth> hehe np
[07:59] <Katana> ebynum: create it ? :)
[07:59] <Katana> PHP has default internal settings, afaik
[07:59] <McBeth> Might try restarting apache aswell.
[08:00] * eAsYoH is now known as easyoh
[08:01] <ebynum> McBeth: I have been restarting apache after making changes to the file
[08:01] <ebynum> Katana: I made a file called /etc/php5.ini and set several PHP "settings" in
[08:02] <Katana> hmmm okay
[08:03] <Kidlvr> Hm, a client states that the project I am working on must render to a high s
[08:05] <shan_work> Has anybody had any experience using the gnupg pecl extension? Having a
[08:05] <echoThis> hire me
[08:05] <echoThis> I need money
[08:06] <shan_work> you and me both
[08:06] <shan_work> I've got it installed, I've got things signing successfully, but it seems
[08:06] <asonge> shan_work: i'd probably end up shelling out to the commands with proper esca
[08:06] <suprsonic> http://pastebin.com/m5ffecbe returns "PHP Warning: mssql_execute(): stor
[08:06] <shan_work> asonge: ugh.
[08:07] <shan_work> That's what I've been doing for years and I finally got this extension wo
[08:07] <niklas`> anyone got a ReadyNAS NV+?
[08:07] <asonge> shan_work: wait, the mcrypt exten might have gnupg
[08:07] <shan_work> Totally blows my mind that with all the people in the world writing php c
[08:07] <shan_work> shell_execs for the very lose.
[08:08] <niklas`> mcrypt?
[08:08] <Katana> security is overrated, shan_work
[08:08] <suprsonic> ideas?
[08:08] <shan_work> hehe Katana
[08:08] <asonge> shan_work: nope.
[08:08] <Katana> never used it sorry
[08:08] <shan_work> yeah, I've looked into mcrypt, it doesn't
[08:08] <asonge> shan_work: mcrypt has a lot of stuff, just not gpg
[08:09] <shan_work> yeah, unfortunately I'm talking to an external soap service that's lookin
[08:09] <echoThis> suprsonic: it means that the stored procedure you're trying to run has an
[08:10] <suprsonic> let me confirm that echoThis
[08:11] <shan_work> niklas` I've used the NV+
[08:11] <niklas`> shan_work: good stuff?
[08:11] <suprsonic> echoThis, nope, I tried using the same stored procedure and it returns th
[08:12] <suprsonic> for some reason it doesn't like me running the mssql_execute() twice.
[08:12] <shan_work> It's my favorite of the consumer NAS solutions, yeah. If you're just lo
[08:13] <niklas`> i'm looking to get rid of my old linux box that's on fileserver duties an d
[08:13] <shan_work> But between the NAS solutions out there, I think the NV+ isn't the absolu
[08:13] <suprsonic> other ideas echoThis?
[08:14] <shan_work> Well, the NV+ isn't exactly quiet
[08:15] <niklas`> what's the other options?
[08:16] <shan_work> well I'm not a huge fan of the Buffalo offerings
[08:17] <shan_work> I'd take a look at www.drobo.com - they do have an accessory now that tur
[08:17] <niklas`> the NV+ seems good, you even get root over ssh and it runs debian
[08:18] <shan_work> But it's much more consumery
[08:18] <shan_work> the NV+ has many more control options, and is actually RAID
[08:18] <shan_work> whereas the Drobo gives you more flexibility but is a proprietary "raid-i
[08:19] <shan_work> Really depends on what you're using it for
[08:19] <niklas`> personal storage of media file ;)
[08:19] <shan_work> alol
[08:19] <niklas`> but it'd need to be accessible from multiple computers
[08:20] <niklas`> how loud is the NV+ ?
[08:20] <shan_work> I'm not good with guestimating decibel levels ;) It sounds like a compu
[08:21] <shan_work> Quieter than an Xbox360 at full spin ;)
[08:21] <niklas`> so more than a computer you've put some effort on to be silent?
[08:21] <niklas`> silent enough to be placed in a small flat that you live in?
[08:22] <impl> I don't understand why everyone wants computers to be quiet :(
[08:22] <shan_work> I may be the wrong person to ask since I'm used to being surrounded by ru
[08:22] <echoThis> http://blackpeopleloveus.com
[08:22] <shan_work> All I can say is that I recall being aware that it was on -- I actually s
[08:22] <ron_frow_> wow
[08:22] <ron_frow_> nice way to start out the day.
[08:23] <niklas`> i need to go and find one in action
[08:27] <niklas`> the drobo seems cool
[08:28] <erf> But expensive
[08:34] <Kidlvr> Does getdarker.com load for anyone?
[08:34] * daffakiwi is now known as daffa
[08:36] <Biber> aye
[08:36] <Biber> his own site?
[08:38] <asonge> i just donated my car to NPR!
[08:38] <asonge> weeeeeeeeeeee
[08:38] <ismellWRK> haha nice
[08:38] <asonge> old car
[08:38] <ismellWRK> now buy me some food
[08:38] <asonge> very very old car
[08:38] <syc> asonge: make/model?
[08:38] <asonge> 1993 toyota carolla with no carpet on the hood and a few large dings and no
[08:39] <ismellWRK> thats not that old
[08:39] <syc> nice
[08:39] <ismellWRK> i drive a 90 4runner
[08:39] <syc> wow, a 90 4runner
[08:39] <syc> you must not get much of a winter
[08:39] <asonge> ismellWRK: it works rather well...i just don't have a use for it
[08:39] <ismellWRK> well, have. don't drive
[08:39] <syc> all of those up here rust to hell in 3 years
[08:39] <asonge> ismellWRK: and i can use the deduction
[08:39] <ismellWRK> we get some crazy winters here
[08:39] <asonge> the auction price of the vehicle is what i can deduct from my taxes
[08:40] <ismellWRK> just gotta keep it clean ;)
[08:41] <asonge> i need to get an oil change this weekend
[08:41] <syc> ismellWRK: where are you located?
[08:42] <Kruge> I guess... Denver, CO.
[08:43] <scott___> oops
[08:44] <ismellWRK> good guess
[08:44] <Jezterrr> afternoon guys ...quick question ... if ive got a part of an array $arr['t
[08:44] <Jezterrr> (in this example its "2"
[08:44] * Kruge bows
[08:45] <ismellWRK> explode() and then count ?
[08:45] <Jezterrr> count each number ?
[08:46] <ismellWRK> yeah, don't think theres any built in functions for that
[08:46] <Jezterrr> i was gonna do something like that but i thought there must be a quicker w
[08:47] <pizza_biz> there doesn't appear to be a mode function in the statistics library.
[08:49] * meowchow is now known as bonzaimeo
[08:49] * bonzaimeo is now known as meowchow
[08:51] <Jezterrr> hmm thats gay, time to rethink how they are put in
[08:51] * chillar`- is now known as chillmac
[08:52] <niklas`> erf: the drobo doesn't seem that expensive
[08:53] <Jezterrr> i need to do the reverse of array_diff
[08:54] <Jezterrr> as that just doesnt output same values in an array, so i need to output mu
[08:58] <jjshoe> is 9am too early for beer?
[08:58] <tassko> It's 5 O'Clock somewhere
[08:59] <zuez> not if you're on vacation, jjshoe
[08:59] <zuez> when I was in mexico last month, I was drinking coronas 8am on the beach
[08:59] <jjshoe> zuez what if I'm not? :D
[08:59] <zuez> jjshoe: well as long as you aren't working :-)
[08:59] <jjshoe> damn.
[08:59] <zuez> btw, CLEC providers dirt cheap DIDs :-P
[09:00] <ismellWRK> as long as you can still be coherent, drink away ;)
[09:00] <jjshoe> zuez how much per did?
[09:00] <asonge> holy shit, they're roasting bob saget
[09:00] <jjshoe> ismell our office is ok with drinking as long as it's not hard alcohol inter
[09:00] <zuez> jjshoe: for Ohio based ones, like $.05!
[09:00] <jjshoe> asonge ooo, when are they doing that?
[09:01] <jjshoe> zuez jesus, that's super cheap
[09:01] <asonge> jjshoe: august 17th...you heard his standup?
[09:01] <asonge> zuez: nice, i had a voip provider (my cable co was offering business voip) a
[09:01] <asonge> zuez: it was stupid...they demanded they install their cisco voip<=>ph
[09:01] <zuez> now I need to just find the most competitive outbound termination wholesalers
[09:02] <asonge> zuez: and the dumbest part was, "no, we can't do sip"
[09:02] <zuez> there's a million companies that can do sip/iax2 heh
[09:02] <zuez> iax2 if you're using asterisk, ofcourse
[09:02] <Soothsaye> hey, could someone suggest an Ecommerce system which is flexible, easy to
[09:02] <asonge> zuez: i was...but this was a "package" deal for 3mbit fiber in podunk, louis
[09:02] <jjshoe> asonge no, but I hear his standup is pretty dirty
[09:02] <asonge> jjshoe: it's great
[09:02] <asonge> "my dog licked my balls" is his featured song in the act
[09:03] <asonge> but it's pretty much the same act he brings around the country
[09:03] <asonge> aside from the different hecklers
[09:03] <jjshoe> Soothsaye drupal + ecommerce
[09:03] <zuez> Bob Saget is extremely raunchy and vulgar
[09:03] <zuez> he's hilarious
[09:03] <asonge> but only because he played danny tanner
[09:03] <zuez> he's NOT the guy you've watched on Full House. :-)
[09:03] <asonge> and it's fucking danny tanner telling pedo jokes
[09:04] <Soothsaye> jjshoe: no i really dont want to use drupal... was considering Magento
[09:04] <zuez> I'm scared to look at Magento source.
[09:04] <Soothsaye> zuez: why ?
[09:04] <zuez> looks so god damn bloated
[09:04] <jjshoe> Soothsaye you asked.
[09:04] <Soothsaye> jjshoe: ye thanks.. was just checking what opinions are floating around
[09:04] <asonge> drupal's api is fairly consistent, but it's templating is far from...decided
[09:05] <StormTide> /s/consistent/backassward
[09:06] <zuez> rot roh, here comes the drupal vs zend framework wars! :-)
[09:06] <zuez> hi ST :-)
[09:06] <StormTide> heh
[09:08] <jjshoe> I like playing with drupal, but the community always leaves a bad taste in m
[09:08] <StormTide> ... cuz you have to blow someone to understand that api?
[09:08] <StormTide> *hides*
[09:08] <jjshoe> StormTide basically :P
[09:09] <asonge> StormTide: zfw just keeps getting bigger instead of better
[09:09] <StormTide> asonge, agreed
[09:09] <asonge> StormTide: most frameworks get faster over time
[09:09] <StormTide> im not impressed where its been going lately
[09:09] <StormTide> theres a new sheriff in town
[09:09] <zuez> I was hoping to see some work done with Zend_Rest
[09:09] <asonge> who's in charge there?
[09:09] <StormTide> matt
[09:10] <mFacenet> so what's the good framework in your opinion asonge? symfony?
[09:10] <zuez> Matt Zandstra?
[09:10] <asonge> mFacenet: i've got my own, but as far as a good starting point, kohana
[09:10] <mFacenet> kohana?
[09:10] <mFacenet> first time I've heard of it
[09:10] <asonge> it's the basic structure
[09:11] <StormTide> zuez, no
[09:11] <asonge> php's got almost everything you need in it natively
[09:11] <aka> whats a two9a lackey?
[09:11] <zuez> Kohana is a spin off from a bunch of bitter developers who didn't like the way
[09:11] <asonge> StormTide: it'll be interesting to see the zfw's and the ezc's class_alias +
[09:11] <aka> ezcftmfw
[09:11] <StormTide> they wont namespace
[09:12] <StormTide> almost guarantee that
[09:12] <asonge> StormTide: you can alias classes
[09:12] <StormTide> ya i know
[09:12] <StormTide> i doubt they'll use it
[09:12] <asonge> so Zend_Db would still exist and alias to Zend::Db
[09:12] <asonge> why? it's so much more powerful
[09:12] <Shadda> StormTide: ?
[09:12] <aka> Shadda: ?
[09:12] <StormTide> consistent api/docs, backwards compat to old vers
[09:12] <StormTide> etc
[09:12] <mFacenet> Kohana seems interesting
[09:12] <Shadda> <@StormTide> matt
[09:13] <StormTide> Shadda, not you
[09:13] <asonge> mFacenet: it's basically nothing but an mvc structure
[09:13] <Shadda> StormTide: don't play with my emotions
[09:13] <StormTide> Shadda, well then stop fuckin jazzi
[09:13] <StormTide> and you wont hang on my every approval
[09:13] <aka> wtf
[09:13] <StormTide> ~_0
[09:13] <aka> how many people fuck jazzi?
[09:13] <mFacenet> asonge, excellent, I may be able to utilize it here then because I was goi
[09:14] <StormTide> aka, for real? just asonge afaik
[09:14] <StormTide> but ... who knows...
[09:14] <aka> hahah
[09:17] <StormTide> any of you guys tried out pdt 2?
[09:18] <asonge> StormTide: i tried a nightly and they had a spelling error which triggered a
[09:18] <asonge> StormTide: this was a week ago
[09:18] <StormTide> haha
[09:18] <StormTide> nice
[09:19] <StormTide> ok, 1.0.3 it is
[09:19] <asonge> .Selectione
[09:19] <asonge> or something
[09:19] <asonge> StormTide: grab the all-in-one for now, pdt 2 will be ganymede
[09:19] <StormTide> im running pdt 1.something
[09:20] <StormTide> but the updater is borked
[09:20] <asonge> 1.0.3 or so, 1.1 was moved out, i think it'll still be released
[09:20] <asonge> dunno if that was moved to 2.0 or what
[09:21] <asonge> StormTide: i think it was a bit dishonest for zend to get all their experien
[09:21] <scott___> asonge: to use a folder with spaces in fstab? "this /that" ?
[09:22] <asonge> scott___: \<space> most likely
[09:22] <asonge> no idea though
[09:22] <asonge> i'm not a super unix admin
[09:23] * tassko is now known as FaithFull
[09:23] <scott___> asonge: you're so modest...
[09:24] <suprsonic> i am!
[09:24] <suprsonic> except linux, I refuse to use it
[09:27] <slacker_> so for counting lines in a large file, is this the best way? $fp=fopen('f
[09:28] <slacker_> grr no that takes way too long/infinity
[09:28] <slacker_> actually..
[09:29] <scott___> doesnt file_get_contents send to an array?
[09:29] <Two9A> `wc -l`
[09:29] <slacker_> no, file() does
[09:29] <scott___> ok then use file
[09:29] <Two9A> Sure, on a 4G file
[09:29] <scott___> and count the itesm in the array
[09:29] <aka> wc -l
[09:29] <Two9A> That's gonna end well
[09:29] <aka> wc -l
[09:29] <Two9A> w c-l
[09:29] <slacker_> cool thanks Two9A/aka
[09:29] <aka> word count -line!
[09:29] <Two9A> wc- l
[09:29] <aka> wordcockline
[09:29] <scott___> thats a linux command?
[09:29] <aka> yez
[09:29] <scott___> oh i thought he was limited to php
[09:29] <aka> your mom is also a linux command
[09:29] <scott___> :P
[09:30] <slacker_> am
[09:30] <scott___> aka: thatd be awesome
[09:30] <slacker_> who doesn't use php on linux though? :P
[09:30] <scott___> people who use IIS servers
[09:30] <scott___> :P
[09:30] <mFacenet> slacker_, idiots?
[09:30] <aka> I use wc -l with some pipes to count anything in a file
[09:30] <aka> slacker_: Idiots
[09:30] <Two9A> Even if they do, you can just install unxutils.zip
[09:30] <aka> srsly
[09:30] <scott___> Two9A: true
[09:31] <slacker_> i have all the common *nix commands in my windows global environment
[09:31] <slacker_> ls ftw
[09:31] <scott___> i had to start learnign windows 2003, it seems odd to me i dont feel at ho
[09:31] <asonge> slacker_: unxutils?
[09:31] <ismellWRK> wow, theres a ton of php frameworks
[09:32] <scott___> im starting to think being an admin for a windows server is more difficult
[09:32] <mFacenet> ismellWRK, more being added daily
[09:32] <mFacenet> scott___, it is but just because you can pretty much leave a linux server
[09:32] <scott___> yeah
[09:33] <scott___> and also theres so much GUI
[09:33] <scott___> im beginning to hate GUI the more i use linux
[09:33] <slacker_> asonge: no?
[09:33] <slacker_> individual exe's
[09:33] <slacker_> wget.exe, ls.exe, etc.
[09:33] <mFacenet> scott___, you can turn off gui's in 2008
[09:33] <asonge> slacker_: unxutils is exactly that.
[09:33] <slacker_> oh
[09:33] <Two9A> slacker_: Did it come in a zip file?
[09:33] <slacker_> no.
[09:33] <asonge> slacker_: wget, ls, sed, awk
[09:33] <impl> cygwin!
[09:33] <asonge> grep
[09:33] <Two9A> sh even
[09:33] <slacker_> googled: "index of" wget.exe ls.exe
[09:34] <slacker_> awk..?
[09:34] <slacker_> awkward
[09:34] <asonge> slacker_: anyway, try unxutils
[09:34] <slacker_> never
[09:34] <asonge> slacker_: might have more...be funny if you just downloaded unxutils
[09:34] <Two9A> The official site doesn't have the zip, but I DO
[09:34] <impl> awk's name is derived from the last initials of the guys who wrote it
[09:34] <asonge> all individually
[09:34] <mFacenet> naw see this is how you know that klingons are secretly nerd, they all spe
[09:34] <asonge> Two9A: it's since been moved by sf.net staff to the sf.net side
[09:34] <Two9A> gzip, bzip2, tar, flex, bison, bc, diff, ...
[09:34] <slacker_> what does awk do
[09:34] <asonge> slacker_: replaces
[09:34] <Bel> slacker_, $numLines = count(preg_split("/\\n/",file_get_contents($fn)));
[09:35] <Two9A> slacker_: It's a line-level parser
[09:35] <asonge> slacker_: awk is just weird
[09:35] <slacker_> Bel: negative
[09:35] <slacker_> you try that on a large file and let me know how it works out for ya :P
[09:35] <Bel> hehe
[09:35] <slacker_> and why on EARTH would you preg_split!
[09:35] <scott___> my servers at home keep turning off, and im not sure why. i get home and t
[09:35] <slacker_> hello, explode()
[09:35] <Two9A> scott___: Mom pulls the power out
[09:35] <Two9A> slacker_: file()
[09:35] <scott___> Two9A: i dont live with mom
[09:35] <slacker_> Two9A: didn't we just have this discussion
[09:35] <scott___> Two9A: i dont live with gf and child
[09:35] <Two9A> You should stay home one day, and see
[09:35] <Two9A> slacker_: NO
[09:35] <slacker_> lol.
[09:36] <slacker_> i ended up using fgets anyways, its near instant
[09:36] <slacker_> and wc -l was off by one?
[09:36] <Two9A> Hah, unxutils even comes with unrar
[09:36] <scott___> Two9A: i have 3 servers plugged into one battery backup and 2 of them turn
[09:36] <slacker_> i couldn't be bothered with ++'ing it
[09:36] <Two9A> wc -l probably doesn't count the final newline
[09:36] <Two9A> scott___: Sounds like it overloads
[09:36] <scott___> overload?
[09:36] <Two9A> Is it always the same one that's left on?
[09:36] <slacker_> oh, yea
[09:36] <scott___> yes
[09:37] <slacker_> mmm my php link checker fucking owns
[09:37] <scott___> the battery backup overloaded?
[09:37] <Two9A> Bad battery in your UPS, I'd say
[09:37] <slacker_> 160 links checked and categorized every second
[09:37] <Two9A> I've had the same
[09:37] <scott___> crap
[09:37] <slacker_> with only 60 child processes
[09:37] <ismellWRK> any one recommend a workflow/CRM web app ? All the ones i'lve looked at a
[09:37] <Two9A> If it's new, refund it
[09:37] <Two9A> slacker_: !
[09:37] <Pablos> lol sucks re-installing XP, i just lost everything i had :(
[09:37] <scott___> no its about a year old
[09:37] <Two9A> Did you buy it brand-new, or from a refurb shop
[09:37] <scott___> ill try gettign a third one
[09:37] <scott___> i bought it brand new
[09:37] <Two9A> Mine was 15 years old when I got it
[09:38] <Two9A> Had enough charge for 10 seconds of battery-backing
[09:38] <scott___> i usually guy the APC-550 or 350's
[09:38] <scott___> guy =buy
[09:38] <slacker_> checked 120,000 unique links in ~15-20 mins yesterday
[09:38] <slacker_> me = teh ownage
[09:38] <Two9A> slacker_: Sounds like you could do it faster in C
[09:39] <rza> checked how?
[09:39] <Pablos> isn't it fun installing software ...
[09:39] <slacker_> curld
[09:39] <Pablos> :\
[09:39] <Two9A> rza: 200/404
[09:39] <slacker_> Two9A: hmm how come no one has made one, that i can find
[09:39] <rza> Two9A: i dont think so
[09:39] <Two9A> slacker_: Because you're not supposed to be lazy
[09:39] <rza> because the slowest part is connecting
[09:39] <slacker_> it reports the title of the page, the url checked, the number of times it
[09:39] <Two9A> rza: Sure, but C would allow 8 billion threads at once
[09:39] <rza> threading in C would kill you
[09:39] <Two9A> :D
[09:39] <rza> and curl supports threads
[09:40] <rza> curl_multi
[09:40] <slacker_> i'd do it in C# if anything else
[09:40] <Pablos> brb
[09:40] <rza> ext/curl i mean
[09:40] <slacker_> neat
[09:40] <rza> slacker_: i wouldnt
[09:40] <slacker_> rza: bleh, c++ then
[09:40] <rza> running it on windows would not give optimal performance
[09:40] <slacker_> oh
[09:40] <slacker_> which is why i'll stick to php CL!
[09:40] <asonge> take your stinking paws off me your damn dirty ape.
[09:40] <rza> slacker_: maybe java
[09:41] <rza> threading in java is simple
[09:41] * slacker_ wants to try $processes = 500 and see what happens to the server
[09:41] <Shadda> asonge: heston used to be cool. then he became a nutjob.
[09:41] <Shadda> AND THEN HE DIED.
[09:41] <rza> slacker_: and threads are cheap in java
[09:41] <slacker_> i got the entire company ipbanned from a few sites yesterday
[09:41] <rza> Shadda: now hes cool again
[09:41] <slacker_> rza: hm. I think i'll take a java course this year
[09:41] <Shadda> slacker_: ohyeah? I lost $10,000 yesterday.
[09:41] <slacker_> since i'm already learning C#
[09:41] <Shadda> Beat that.
[09:41] <rza> slacker_: java is the coolest
[09:41] <slacker_> Shadda: nice
[09:42] <rza> C++ > java > C#
[09:42] <slacker_> rza: will it be easy to pick up if i've got a grasp on c#?
[09:42] <slacker_> easier, anyways
[09:42] <rza> all thou C# as a language is better
[09:42] <Shadda> * > C++
[09:42] <rza> it is really similar
[09:42] <slacker_> mmkay
[09:42] <rza> Shadda: have you done a lot of C++
[09:42] <Shadda> Ignoring what a pain in the ass C++ is to write
[09:42] <Shadda> You cannot trust anyone to write "good" C++
[09:42] <DiGi`> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=38210281
[09:42] <rza> oh, why?
[09:42] <DiGi`> ahaha
[09:42] <DiGi`> SFW
[09:42] <Shadda> because there's no such thing
[09:43] <rza> did you read about Boost.CPP
[09:43] <rza> you can write php extensions just by writng C++
[09:43] <DiGi`> thats gotta be fake
[09:43] <DiGi`> eh?
[09:43] <rza> no need to know "anything|" about php internals
[09:43] <Shadda> no one is qualified to say their C++ works exactly as intended.
[09:43] <slacker_> NOOO i clicked my A:
[09:43] <slacker_> now windows will take 10 minutes of freezing and then realize i don't have
[09:44] <slacker_> how the fuck do you remove that thing >< administrative tools have i
[09:44] <rza> http://github.com/moriyoshi/boost.php/wikis
[09:44] <rza> i find this relatively cool
[09:45] <ismellWRK> ice
[09:45] <ismellWRK> n
[09:45] <Shadda> rza interesting
[09:45] <Shadda> rza how would you do classes?
[09:46] <rza> http://github.com/moriyoshi/boost.php/tree/master/m008.cpp
[09:46] <rza> http://github.com/moriyoshi/boost.php/tree/master/m008.php
[09:48] <rza> Shadda: i find that beautiful
[09:48] <StormTide> i have never had so much trouble gettin a datacenter to boot a server ont
[09:48] <rza> compared to all macros etc
[09:48] <impl> rza: my coworker thinks it's brilliant
[09:48] <StormTide> they've been trying since the 22nd
[09:48] <rza> impl: yes, it looks brilliant
[09:49] <rza> i need to test it at some point
[09:49] <DiGi`> StormTide, whats the issue?
[09:49] <StormTide> trying to shred old hd's
[09:49] <rza> impl: are you anxiously waiting for phplondon?
[09:49] <StormTide> they just, clearly, have never loaded a livecd
[09:49] <impl> rza: I'm hoping Lufthansa doesn't cancel our flight. :P
[09:50] <rza> oh yeah
[09:50] <rza> the strike
[09:50] <DiGi`> like, they're not getting around to it.. or they don't know how to put the cd
[09:50] <rza> impl: are you actually working for a german company?
[09:50] <StormTide> DiGi`, fuck if i know
[09:50] <StormTide> keep asking me for irrelevant info
[09:50] <StormTide> like my remote netmask and gateway
[09:50] <impl> rza: yeah, but not for teh $'s
[09:50] <StormTide> tis like, wtf
[09:51] <rza> impl: oh i forgot
[09:51] <rza> youre there to have a bloody good time
[09:51] <rza> :D
[09:51] <impl> yeah yeah
[09:51] <rza> i need a shower
[09:51] <rza> my penis smells
[09:51] <rza> brb
[09:51] <impl> k..
[09:54] * Two9A is trying to work out which dance track's lyrics would go well with Pjanoo
[09:57] <To`> anyone knows a good dance music album to buy?
[09:58] <Two9A> No idea, but Inner City and Pjanoo go together like hand and glove
[09:59] <To`> thats an idea
[09:59] <To`> lestening to Pjanoo on youtube now
[10:00] <To`> *listening
[10:00] <To`> its cool
[10:02] <Two9A> Ok, Ring My Bell and Pjanoo are .. not so good together
[10:03] <DiGi`> what do you mean "dance to"
[10:03] <DiGi`> ballroom dance? break dance?
[10:04] <To`> disco night music, dance music
[10:04] <To`> house
[10:04] <To`> something like that
[10:04] <To`> hehe
[10:06] <Two9A> You can all try it. Play "Eric Prydz - Pjanoo" and "Apogee - This Sound" at t
[10:06] <Two9A> Now this works.
[10:06] <To`> so many time downloading music now I dont know where to buy it lol
[10:09] * _pdq is now known as pdq
[10:10] <To`> nobody wants CDs just mp3
[10:10] <To`> CD industry is over
[10:15] <HM2K> http://hypem.com/search/Eric%20Prydz%20-%20Pjanoo/1/
[10:17] <HM2K> Two9A it was already remixed by the cutup boys on mos mashup 2008
[10:22] <Shadda> hahahahahahah
[10:23] <Shadda> monday's daily show ftw
[10:23] <Shadda> "passive aggressive"
[10:28] <jjshoe> could you be aggresively passive?
[10:30] <aka> yes
[10:30] <aka> and /YOU/ can be a faggot
[10:30] <aka> damn 2 woot offs in a row
[10:30] * aka cartwheels
[10:31] <picasso> has woot ever sold anything worthwhile before?
[10:31] <To`> passive gay agressively suckingge
[10:31] <aka> picasso: yeah a lot of shit
[10:31] <To`> ups sorry
[10:31] <aka> boc being the best obviousl
[10:31] <picasso> ive bought stuff twice from there
[10:31] <picasso> and both times was disappointed
[10:31] <aka> what did you buy?
[10:31] <picasso> a gps/pda once
[10:32] <picasso> and i forget what else, im pretty sure i got something else tho :)
[10:32] <picasso> pda was crap, i returned it
[10:32] <aka> you can return shit to woot?
[10:32] <picasso> well it was kinda broken
[10:32] <picasso> but it was a big piece of crap even if it worked
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[10:38] <cholmon> lol http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52f_1217434061&p=1
[10:38] <cholmon> "McCain don't belong in ANY chair unless he's paralyzed"
[10:39] <slacker_> rza: here?
[10:39] * OxC2D is now known as Ox40
[10:40] <suprsonic> is it possible to send multiple mssql_execute() commands one after anothe
[10:41] <suprsonic> http://pastebin.com/m5ffecbe fails to execute the second stored procedure
[10:45] <impl> I'm writing RELAX NG schemas
[10:45] <impl> and it's actually enjoyable
[10:45] <impl> like, almost more fun than writing code
[10:45] <impl> fucking weird, guys.
[10:46] * niklas` looks at impl and shakes his head
[10:47] <cheach> http://www.totimage.com/out.php?i=261_ginagershon.jpg
[10:47] <cheach> nsfw
[10:49] <slacker_> i hate gay porn
[10:49] <slacker_> do gay people even know how to use the internet
[10:49] <slacker_> what is the purpose!
[10:50] <jjshoe> apparently
[10:50] <slacker_> oh
[10:50] <slacker_> touche
[10:53] <niklas`> i'm getting senile, can't find my glasses
[10:55] <pizza_biz> are you wearing them already?
[10:55] <suprsonic> anyone using mssql with php?
[10:56] <conrad107> suprsonic: I have
[10:56] <suprsonic> can you look at this for me? http://pastebin.com/m5ffecbe
[10:56] <suprsonic> first stored procedure runs like a champ, the second which is exactly the
[10:57] <suprsonic> I get "PHP Warning: mssql_execute(): stored procedure execution failed"
[10:57] <DevKin> how do you test if a var is in array? is it $array = array('foo', 'bar'); if
[10:57] <conrad107> suprsonic: are you sure your bind params or correct?
[10:57] <suprsonic> yes
[10:58] <suprsonic> I can even comment out the bind and it fails
[10:58] <conrad107> or = are *
[10:58] <conrad107> hmm, why are you using unset() ?
[10:58] <pizza_biz> http://www.php.net/in_array
[10:58] <DevKin> thanks
[10:59] <suprsonic> so I can reuse the variable
[10:59] <conrad107> I think maybe mssql_free_statement($sql); might be more suited
[11:00] <conrad107> but never the less, if the actual procedure works directly against the ms
[11:01] <suprsonic> I trace on the SQL server and I don't even see the second stored procedur
[11:01] <conrad107> right, try this http://pastebin.com/m2fe3327a
[11:02] <StormTide> http://break.com/index/judge-judy-rocked-by-earthquake.html hah
[11:02] <StormTide> hey paul
[11:02] <conrad107> suprsonic: I had a similar issue a while back, and while roaming around o
[11:03] <suprsonic> trying
[11:03] <conrad107> I dont use FreeTDS, but I was having the same problems
[11:04] <suprsonic> that may have done it
[11:04] <suprsonic> let me check
[11:05] <conrad107> suprsonic: excellent
[11:07] <DevKin> pizza_biz: thank for the in_array(); .. so now i know the var is in the arra
[11:07] <suprsonic> I think that might have done it conrad107
[11:07] <suprsonic> confirming now
[11:08] <lobstr> what's a good way to convert any string into a SEF string
[11:08] <aka> DevKin: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.array-search.php
[11:10] <DevKin> thanks again.
[11:12] * JudgeFMJ is now known as FMJaguar
[11:13] <suprsonic> you're my hero conrad107
[11:13] <suprsonic> runs like a champ!
[11:13] <conrad107> suprsonic: np, good luck
[11:19] <Moncrey> I'm calling a function that calls mysql_select_db() and it always returns f
[11:19] <Moncrey> any insights?
[11:20] <conrad107> Moncrey: are you passing the link identifier as the 2nd param?
[11:21] <Moncrey> I tried with and without the link parameter, both returned false.
[11:22] <Moncrey> (conrad, how are you messaging me like that?)
[11:22] <Moncrey> (i am noobtastic)
[11:22] <conrad107> messaging you like what
[11:22] <meowchow> are you doing a return false or return true in your function
[11:22] <Moncrey> ok nevermind it was my client making it look like a pvt msg
[11:23] <conrad107> yes, because I had your name in the message... Moncrey it will do it agai
[11:23] <conrad107> Moncrey: or maybe your client only acts that way if your name is in the b
[11:26] <Moncrey> definitely does it for both
[11:26] <Moncrey> but thing is, meowchow, it returns false always
[11:26] <Moncrey> i'm testing right now
[11:26] <Moncrey> and returning the result of mysql_select_db() right after i call it
[11:27] <Moncrey> always false
[11:27] <Moncrey> this is using amfphp and flash also
[11:27] <Moncrey> i feel like it has to do with the fact that its in a class... but i dont kn
[11:28] <meowchow> are you using globals ?
[11:29] <Moncrey> im using globals for db address name and pass
[11:29] <Moncrey> but thats it
[11:29] <Moncrey> well, not globals
[11:29] <Moncrey> but like, class level vars
[11:30] <meowchow> echo your vars out to the page, so if they even hold a value
[11:31] <meowchow> seems like a scope issue
[11:31] <meowchow> thats just my guess
[11:31] <a|ex> I am having an issue with post_max_size... can anyone help me out? :(
[11:32] <Moncrey> i dont know. I dont think it could be. It calls mysql_connect_db() successf
[11:32] <Moncrey> and $link is in the scope of the function
[11:32] <deleet> Moncrey: it's probably a scope problem as meowchow says, echo out $link and
[11:32] <Moncrey> hmm okay
[11:33] <slacker_> humph
[11:33] <a|ex> eh.
[11:33] <slacker_> i definitely had the wrong logic here
[11:33] <slacker_> looping through a 190,000 line file 1400 times, instead of looping through
[11:33] <deleet> rofl slacker_
[11:33] <slacker_> oh well. its at 90%
[11:33] <slacker_> been like a half hour though, lol
[11:35] <a|ex> i got a little bit of an issue... it pertains to uploading, I set the post_max
[11:35] <slacker_> 94%!
[11:35] <slacker_> niceeee
[11:35] <a|ex> i set both the post and upload size to 3000M
[11:35] <slacker_> hahahahaha
[11:35] <slacker_> that ain't gonna fly
[11:36] <meowchow> a|ex - 3g ??? i dont think you can do that
[11:36] <slacker_> -100663296 = -96MB
[11:36] <slacker_> so maybe 96MB is the max
[11:36] <a|ex> hrm..
[11:36] <a|ex> damn that sucks.
[11:36] <a|ex> heh
[11:36] <a|ex> apperantly this script is suppose to exceed that.
[11:36] <slacker_> um
[11:36] <a|ex> heh
[11:36] <a|ex> well they raved about it.
[11:37] <slacker_> wtf are you allowing uploads thru php for with >100MB?
[11:37] <slacker_> 99%!
[11:37] <Moncrey> question: how do I echo out $link ? it is either going to be (Object)#0 or
[11:37] <a|ex> um.. it;s for a drafting company
[11:37] <slacker_> DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:37] <a|ex> authorized access only
[11:37] <slacker_> Moncrey: what?
[11:37] <a|ex> they have to upload sets and plans.
[11:37] <meowchow> way too big
[11:37] <slacker_> Moncrey: var_dump($link); what's it say
[11:38] <slacker_> what the fuck
[11:38] <slacker_> 101%
[11:38] <slacker_> ah ok there we go
[11:38] <a|ex> looks like i will have to just go with perl :/
[11:38] <a|ex> oh well.
[11:38] <slacker_> perl happily does a 3GB upload?
[11:38] <meowchow> you can do do max uplaod size with .htaccess also
[11:38] <meowchow> php_value upload_max_filesize 25M
[11:38] <meowchow> php_value post_max_size 25M
[11:38] <a|ex> i did that.
[11:38] <slacker_> meowchow: not for 3000M i don't think
[11:38] <a|ex> i made sure there was no limits in apache conf either.
[11:38] <a|ex> i mean i really went through everything.
[11:39] <Moncrey> aha! it says (Object)#0
[11:39] <Moncrey> message = "faultCode:INVALID_AMF_MESSAGE faultString:'Invalid AMF message
[11:39] <meowchow> +slacker_ oh def not, right. i was just saying
[11:39] <a|ex> slacker_; yea it does.
[11:39] <Akeem> slacker_: http://blog.nihilogic.dk/2008/07/20-lines-javascript-super-mario-tr
[11:39] <a|ex> xupload is an example... ive implemented it.
[11:39] <Akeem> slacker_: Better than your hangman :-P
[11:39] <slacker_> hm
[11:39] <slacker_> Akeem: pftt different
[11:40] <Akeem> slacker_: Not at all, it's simply a JS game that's better than yours :-P
[11:40] <a|ex> heh
[11:40] <meowchow> uploading anything to the web over 1g is just plain ridiculy
[11:40] <meowchow> setup an sftp server for that stuff
[11:41] <slacker_> its a neat kinda game
[11:41] <slacker_> but thats not fucking 20 lines
[11:41] <slacker_> he removes ALL WHITESPACE and breaks huge blocks of code into 1 line
[11:41] <slacker_> http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/20_lines_javascript/july08_super_mario/20line
[11:42] <slacker_> that's not 20 lines in my book.
[11:42] <Moncrey> hahahaha
[11:42] <asonge> meowchow: you set up an rsync, not an sftp
[11:42] <asonge> sftp would take for fucking ever
[11:42] <deleet> rofl
[11:43] <asonge> sftp inflates by 2 or 3 times on the wire, at least
[11:43] <zuez> man
[11:43] <zuez> && !data.coins && !data.goombas
[11:43] <zuez> code like that makes me stiff
[11:43] <Shadda> momma...just killed a man. put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger now
[11:43] <zuez> goombas!
[11:43] <meowchow> asonge - well yeah but im going on the notion he's doing it through a webp
[11:43] <Shadda> EVERYONE JOIN HANDS
[11:43] <a|ex> yea.
[11:43] <meowchow> ftp is easier than rsync
[11:43] <asonge> sftp isn't ftp
[11:44] <a|ex> well i got the files gziping on the client side before transfer.
[11:44] <meowchow> im used to typing sftp
[11:44] <slacker_> Akeem: besides, i made blackjack too, not just mario!
[11:44] <a|ex> with JS
[11:44] <a|ex> i was thinking sftp
[11:44] <meowchow> try snail mail
[11:44] <Shadda> who the hell uses ftp for dev anymore
[11:44] <Shadda> that's like...icky
[11:44] <meowchow> not for dev
[11:44] <a|ex> damn this sucks... i was under the impression that you could set anything unde
[11:45] <asonge> ftp for anything, hehe
[11:45] <meowchow> yeah hehe
[11:45] <asonge> a|ex: you can, but it's just not sane to do so
[11:45] <a|ex> im a little insane. :)
[11:45] <Shadda> I generally just use scp to transfer anything between boxes, (non code)
[11:46] <meowchow> no need to use secure transfer unless it calls for it
[11:46] <Moncrey> I use ftp :) but I r n00b to serverside things
[11:46] <a|ex> haha.
[11:46] <Moncrey> also my host dude wont give me ssh access
[11:47] <Akeem> Well ftp is just a shitty protocol
[11:47] <a|ex> well.. it's for clients... im trying to make it simple as possible... it works
[11:47] <a|ex> drag and drop
[11:47] <a|ex> status.. the whole bit.
[11:47] <Akeem> It was originally meant to be human readable and therefore it's broken as hel
[11:47] <meowchow> you would run into max timeout issues anyways
[11:47] <a|ex> or "progress" i mean.
[11:47] <a|ex> heh
[11:47] <Mr_Grim> who made that mario game in JS?
[11:47] <meowchow> with 3g uploads
[11:47] <Mr_Grim> that takes balls
[11:47] <a|ex> well.. i have access..
[11:47] <many> lol wow in js?
[11:47] <Akeem> 90% of writing an FTP client is parsing the ftp commands because different se
[11:47] <a|ex> so i set the timeouts way high
[11:48] <meowchow> hah
[11:48] <a|ex> it in theory should work.
[11:48] <Shadda> I wrote an ftpd in python a couple years ago
[11:48] <Shadda> but that was a special use case
[11:48] <a|ex> yea this is a special use case... too...
[11:48] <meowchow> given the user acknowledges a transfer is still in progress
[11:48] <meowchow> but then that depends ont eh browser
[11:48] <meowchow> and etc...
[11:48] <meowchow> which is just too messy
[11:48] <meowchow> then you're assuming the user is smart
[11:48] <a|ex> i just dont get it... there is nothing that says any type of limitation...
[11:48] <meowchow> which is dangerous
[11:48] <Shadda> It was an experiment to propagate user uploaded movie files over gmail lol
[11:48] <lobstr> using mod_rewrite and htaccess, I have something like ([a-z]+), how do i all
[11:48] <a|ex> not even php.net
[11:48] <meowchow> \-
[11:48] <meowchow> escape the dash
[11:49] <a|ex> then all of a sudden it doesn't work.
[11:49] <a|ex> :/
[11:49] <a|ex> yanno..
[11:49] <Shadda> no, don't escape it
[11:49] <Shadda> make it the last characer
[11:49] <Shadda> [a-z-]
[11:49] <a|ex> phpinfo is kickin all my setting back perfect.
[11:49] <lobstr> oh okay thanks
[11:49] <a|ex> and i get that POST content error
[11:49] <a|ex> heh
[11:49] <tomalak> www.google.com/search?q=basic+regular+expression+information
[11:49] <a|ex> firefox and IE.
[11:49] <a|ex> :/
[11:50] <meowchow> a|ex: i dont feel like looking for it, but it _is_ documented out there so
[11:50] <aka> DiGi`: http://www.woot.com/
[11:50] <aka> I got your golf thing figured out... thanks woot
[11:51] <a|ex> hehe.. ok
[11:51] <a|ex> ill take a look
[11:51] <a|ex> i just figured id run it by.
[11:51] <tomalak> uploading >100MB via HTTP is pretty dumb unless you're providing a resum
[11:51] <a|ex> it does have resume.
[11:51] <tomalak> and besides
[11:51] <a|ex> it keeps log of sessions
[11:51] <tomalak> FTP is designed for this sort of thing. HTTP isn't.
[11:51] <a|ex> and resumes
[11:51] <DiGi`> aka... lol so pretty much is just blinks?
[11:51] <aka> haha yeah
[11:51] <aka> :P
[11:52] <a|ex> already considered that.
[11:52] <a|ex> hehe
[11:52] <a|ex> thats why i am hell bent on this script.
[11:52] <a|ex> heh
[11:53] <tomalak> LOL
[11:53] <tomalak> is that your product aka
[11:53] <aka> I got big ass balls
[11:53] <tomalak> a|ex: are you being paid to develop this?
[11:57] <a|ex> well it's a long story..
[11:57] <a|ex> yes BUT... i had it all completed.
[11:57] <a|ex> and the client failed to mention... he needed reclusive directory
[11:57] <a|ex> so.
[11:57] <a|ex> i had the project mapped out... with a ajax perl script...
[11:58] <meowchow> then you charge him double for having to revisit the app
[11:58] <meowchow> then when he pays you
[11:58] <meowchow> tell him to go fuck himself
[11:58] <a|ex> well... haha.
[11:58] <a|ex> i know.
[11:58] <a|ex> i kept him informed an all... but..
[11:58] <a|ex> water under the bridge now.
[11:58] <a|ex> i need to get it complete.
[11:58] <a|ex> the perl script owned.
[11:58] <a|ex> no upload issues at all
[11:58] <niklas`> clients are just a pain in the ass
[11:59] <meowchow> why dont you just re-use the perl script then ?
[11:59] <niklas`> i wish they'd just all go away
[11:59] <a|ex> no limits nothing.
[11:59] <Solet> how do you test if an index with in an array a) exists and b) meets specified
[11:59] <Shadda> Anyone here on a mac with macports installed?
[11:59] <niklas`> Shadda: only fink
[11:59] <Biber> Solet, isset()
[11:59] <tomalak> A\ex: what the hell's "reclusive directory" ?
[11:59] <a|ex> to be honest im not much of a perl person.. i would rather try and fix somethi
[11:59] <Shadda> I try to install apache and for some reason it tries to install sqlite3
[11:59] <Shadda> but when it gets to sqlite3 it just says error no checksum found
[11:59] <a|ex> recrusive*
[12:00] <a|ex> heh
[12:00] <a|ex> my bad.
[12:00] <a|ex> yanno... select a folder and it grabs all the folders and sub folders and file
[12:00] <tomalak> recursive?
[12:00] <niklas`> screw macports and just dl the apache source yourself?
[12:00] <a|ex> etc..
[12:00] <a|ex> recursive.
[12:00] <a|ex> err.
[12:00] <Solet> biber: do i have to nest the ifs? or can i just wrap isset() around $array['i
[12:00] <tomalak> lol
[12:00] <a|ex> ya
[12:00] <tomalak> I hope you didn't use that word in your client brief.
[12:00] <jjshoe> I'm good at perl.
[12:00] <a|ex> hah.
[12:00] <a|ex> as if they would know the difference.
[12:00] <a|ex> :/
[12:01] <tomalak> not really the point, is it?
[12:01] <a|ex> thats beyond the point
[12:01] <a|ex> haha
[12:01] <Biber> Solet, if(isset($array['index'])&&(more stuff if it exists))
[12:01] <Solet> ah ok
[12:01] <a|ex> actually im pretty new to this web application development.
[12:01] <a|ex> im originally a network consultant.
[12:02] <a|ex> and have shifted into development.
[12:02] <a|ex> ... being independent is forcing change :/
[12:04] <tomalak> like using HTTP upload to submit >100MB files?
[12:05] <Solet> Biber: what if i want the if statement to be true if it's not set or its set
[12:05] <tomalak> if (!isset($..) || $.. == val)
[12:05] <tomalak> pretty simple
[12:05] <Solet> will if (!(isset($a['i']) || ($a['i']<1) {
[12:05] <Solet> k
[12:06] <a|ex> ahh.. i think i found something.
[12:06] <a|ex> time to try it.
[12:09] <a|ex> ok..
[12:09] <a|ex> i got it.
[12:09] <Shadda> looks like i fixed it
[12:09] <Shadda> and all i had to do was break it
[12:09] <a|ex> hehe
[12:09] <a|ex> i could only do 2048M
[12:10] <a|ex> cuz it's a signed int
[12:10] <a|ex> ahhh.
[12:10] <a|ex> heh
[12:10] <a|ex> im happy now.
[12:11] <a|ex> makes sence... going over would cause the negative number.
[12:13] <slacker_> ahahahaha
[12:13] <slacker_> HTTP/1.1 500 Parameter 1 of function IsDefined, which is now caller.ATTRIB
[12:13] <slacker_> something tells me that's not a valid description
[12:14] <syc> pfft, slacker
[12:16] <Two9A> Starting to put some code in: https://oopsilon.com/Extended-Text-Mode-on-the-
[12:19] <aka> anyone have advice for a book on personal finance?
[12:20] <niklas`> aka: just give me all your money
[12:20] <slacker_> Finance for dummies
[12:20] <Two9A> Ah, but how does my article look?
[12:20] <slacker_> Two9A: like shit :/
[12:20] <aka> I read it... I liked it
[12:20] <Two9A> o rly
[12:20] <aka> but I am a Yes man
[12:20] <niklas`> i'm not going to read it
[12:20] <Two9A> aka: I added some more paragraphs since you read it yesterday
[12:20] * slacker_ clicks
[12:21] <aka> niklas`: Last time I transfered all my monies to you, you got 3 std's and had t
[12:21] <slacker_> Two9A cool is that how it actually writes to the screen
[12:21] <aka> no no no... we can do that again
[12:21] <aka> can't*
[12:21] <Two9A> slacker_: That's how it works
[12:22] <niklas`> aka: but it was fun wasn't it? fear and lothing style
[12:30] <slacker_> Two9A: neat
[12:30] <slacker_> though I've never heard the term "thankless task"
[12:31] <PaulB> anyone have any good email domain verification scripts?
[12:31] <scott___> hey guys whats the best way to receive and email every time a mysql query
[12:31] <Two9A> It's British, mainly
[12:31] <scott___> i plan on using error_log()
[12:31] <GooseWRK> i cant find a job for shit :(
[12:31] <echoThis> "guys, I just had the best idea... you know how web 2.0 is like super awes
[12:32] <echoThis> sigh
[12:32] <echoThis> I bet she never becomes more than a hundredaire
[12:35] <PaulB> is there a parse_url function for emails?
[12:36] <[Ex0r]> does php offer any sort of tools for accessing rss feeds?
[12:36] <echoThis> jesus people, try google
[12:36] <syc> [Ex0r]: no, you need .net
[12:36] <slacker_> lol
[12:36] <[Ex0r]> heh, i'm definately not using .net
[12:36] <slacker_> syc: um that's plausible
[12:37] <slacker_> in his pov probably
[12:37] <PaulB> echoThis do you know of a function parse email strings?
[12:37] <slacker_> [Ex0r]: simplexml can read xml (rss)
[12:37] <echoThis> well, it's not so much that you need .NET as that php doesn't need you.
[12:37] <syc> echoThis: violence!
[12:37] <syc> kill kill!
[12:37] <lobstr> Should i use suhosin?
[12:38] <syc> lobstr: yah
[12:38] * _pusher_ is now known as pushgone
[12:38] <lobstr> always?
[12:38] <syc> lobstr: except on stat holidays
[12:38] <syc> so between yesterday and today, i launched 3 sites
[12:39] <syc> arne't i cooool?
[12:39] <lobstr> if its so neccessary how come it's not just built in, i've never even heard
[12:39] <neves> syc: that depends
[12:39] <[Ex0r]> echoThis- I've got an idea. If you don't like somebodies question, how about
[12:39] <[Ex0r]> slacker_- thanks
[12:39] <echoThis> syc: are any of them as awesome as http://blackpeopleloveus.com ?
[12:39] <syc> lobstr: what is suhosin?
[12:39] <neves> syc: you were working on them side-by-side and happened to finish at the same
[12:40] <slacker_> HAHAHA
[12:40] <slacker_> that's a first
[12:40] <slacker_> someone ELSE was yelled at for being ignorant and _I_ was thanked
[12:40] <slacker_> hahaha
[12:40] <lobstr> ysysddfffj
[12:40] <syc> slacker_: i yell at cheerio (and his kind) all the time, never knew you were on
[12:41] <cheerio> hey eff u
[12:41] <syc> hehe
[12:41] <echoThis> Ex0r: google: php rss
[12:41] <echoThis> ffs
[12:41] <slacker_> ew i'm not black
[12:41] <echoThis> do your own fucking work
[12:41] <Kruge> slacker is in denial
[12:41] <syc> k, i'm disappearing for awhile, haven't slept in the past 36 hours, and i need
[12:41] <Kruge> Don't hate yourself brother
[12:41] <slacker_> :(
[12:41] <syc> cheerio: wanna come?
[12:41] * syc disappears
[12:41] <cheerio> ass
[12:42] <impl> Ignoring questions! What a thought!
[12:42] <[Ex0r]> lmfao, lame
[12:42] <loadstr> syc it's some security patch for php
[12:42] <[Ex0r]> defend myself from an asshole and get removed from the channel, that's aweso
[12:42] <impl> Now bend over so Kruge can have his way with you
[12:42] <[Ex0r]> no need to kick though, i'll part myself
[12:43] <loadstr> an admin i know suggested i patch all my server's php with suhosin
[12:43] <Cartossin> [ex0r should chill-ax
[12:44] <Kruge> I think we all need to start being more friendly in here
[12:44] <Kruge> I`m calling for tolerance!
[12:44] <impl> That would require effort
[12:44] <Two9A> Y'all should read my unfinished article
[12:45] <Kruge> On Apathy?
[12:45] <deleet> Two9A: show us
[12:45] <Two9A> Kruge: I'd have to go to Wales, so that's not gonna happen
[12:45] <Two9A> https://oopsilon.com/Extended-Text-Mode-on-the-C64
[12:45] <Kruge> You know, I was going to click that, then I read the details and, well...
[12:45] <Cartossin> I skim-read it
[12:46] <Solet> is there a way to make a function have one param optional? like function test
[12:47] <asonge> Solet: php.net/function function test($foo, $bar='') { ... }
[12:47] <asonge> where '' is any default value
[12:54] <Anxtorman> Hii..
[12:54] <Anxtorman> Looking for some help. What's my best bet? I'm looking for a HOTORNOT typ
[12:54] <Anxtorman> I don't need the facility for others to add their own pictures either.
[12:56] <xastey> can anyone tell me why this regex isn't valid preg_replace('/\?\/',$args,$sq
[12:57] <xastey> so evertime it finds ? replace it with an element of the array.. [0],[1] and
[12:59] <impl> Anxtorman: so you basically want a porn gallery?
[13:00] <Bel> xastey, well, /\?\/ isn't valid...
[13:00] <Bel> /\?/ is probably sufficient
[13:00] <xastey> thanks
[13:00] <du_> anyone ever made a scripting language in PHP?
[13:01] <chillmac> wth?
[13:01] <PaulB> is there a function to check for comparisons, say i have a domain like gmail,
[13:02] <du_> you could do an ajax enabled text box that relies on queries to the database an
[13:02] <du_> like google suggest
[13:03] <impl> PaulB: metaphone / soundex / some other one maybe
[13:04] <chillmac> or similar_text()
[13:05] <PaulB> ok thanks du_
[13:05] <PaulB> and impl
[13:05] <chillmac> whatabout me? :P
[13:07] <du_> what about me?
[13:07] <du_> you're welcome paulb
[13:07] <impl> ...
[13:07] <du_> has anyone made a scripting language with php?
[13:08] <Two9A> Looks like du's heavily lagged
[13:08] <impl> No, die.
[13:08] <Two9A> Or maybe he's just trolling
[13:08] <chillmac> maybe both
[13:08] <du_> what i'm thinking about doing is giving a user the ability to write scripts
[13:09] <du_> i bet yahoo store code .. rtml is that
[13:09] <impl> 16:08:08 <@impl> No, die.
[13:09] <du_> for my own personal site, kinda like... eh, how does facebook allow you to writ
[13:09] <du_> i heard facebook let's you make little applications
[13:10] <du_> that let you write scripts to query a friends list or something
[13:11] <jY> du_, you think what facebook did is something easy?
[13:11] <du_> i'm making a web site kinda like a directory and i'd like to allow users to wri
[13:11] <du_> jY: i never even implied that
[13:11] <Two9A> du_: Spec out the functionality you wish to provide, the data you wish to exp
[13:11] <scott___> is delicious bookmarks really worth it?
[13:11] <du_> but i can tell you have something to say, so why dont you say it
[13:11] <scott___> my bookmarks list is gettign huuuge!
[13:11] <Two9A> Then you can design a language and grammar to implement the spec
[13:11] <scott___> and i need to organize them properly
[13:12] <Two9A> scott___: I just remember everything
[13:12] <du_> two9a awesome, see that is helpful
[13:12] <scott___> suuure...
[13:12] <scott___> i already have too much to remember
[13:12] <Two9A> What bookmarks do I need in a given day?
[13:12] <Two9A> Email, webcomics, news, php manual
[13:12] <scott___> i dunno
[13:12] <scott___> hwos your day
[13:12] <Two9A> You can remember all that easy
[13:12] <scott___> you must have an easy day
[13:13] <Two9A> What's in YOUR bookmarks ;)
[13:13] <PaulB> anyone everused aspell pspell?
[13:13] <scott___> i just dont like the idea of sharing my bookmarks with delicious
[13:14] <du_> mine is classified like - dev -> php, css, mysql, seo, miva... science, math
[13:15] <Two9A> I tend to use teh_google for anything that isn't immediately in my memory
[13:15] <Two9A> The php manual is easy, mysql functions have to be searched for
[13:16] <impl> mysql.com/blah works
[13:16] <scott___> haha
[13:16] <Two9A> Never!
[13:16] <scott___> On December 09, 2005, del.icio.us became part of the Yahoo! network of pro
[13:16] <impl> http://mysql.com/select
[13:17] <Two9A> Ah, they don't use an atrocious search any more
[13:17] <scott___> now i dont want to use it
[13:17] <scott___> i would rather save my favs to a flash drive somehow
[13:17] <impl> scott___: dude
[13:17] <du_> i have seen web 3.0 and it is good.
[13:17] <impl> that was three years ago
[13:17] <du_> i had a vision
[13:17] <scott___> impl: ive never used del.icio.us
[13:18] <impl> oh :P me neither
[13:18] <impl> I use flickr though, it's great
[13:18] <scott___> id rather keep my bookmarks to myself
[13:18] <bit`> !rules
[13:23] <Two9A> This amateur-mix gets better every time I try it
[13:23] <kryps> function foo() { function bar() { } }.. can I run foo() multiple times? doe
[13:23] <kryps> I would try it, but
[13:23] <kryps> yeah
[13:23] <Two9A> bar is inside the scope of foo; it can't be accessed from outside
[13:24] <Two9A> And yes, it's instantiated when you call foo
[13:24] <Two9A> (TRY IT, see if I'm right)
[13:26] <echoThis> I hate facebook
[13:26] <echoThis> it's made the web too damn accessible for morons
[13:27] <echoThis> I preferred it when I was the only one capable of putting pictures on the
[13:28] <Akeem> aka: http://audiobiblio.com/stream/song/4752/7l-esoteric/girls-gone-wild-7l-s
[13:28] <Akeem> aka: lol, I get hits on that page from people searching for girls gone wild v
[13:31] * kryps starts imitating a rap start. *jiggy jig* *yea yeeaahhh* *head bob* *yup yup, bup!*
[13:31] <kryps> lol, omg, lame rap
[13:36] <echoThis> hmm thepiratebay.org has been down for a couple days now
[13:36] <HM2K> it was online earlier today
[13:36] <Biber> it's online now and then
[13:36] <_piker_> hm2k, you pirate software?
[13:37] <HM2K> you know the answer to that
[13:37] <_piker_> what if i pirated phurix stuff.. how would that make you feel?
[13:37] <HM2K> you just earned yourself a ban
[13:37] <_piker_> from where?
[13:37] <Two9A> Maybe he didn't
[13:37] <Cartossin> I only pirate software that comes from sweat shop child labor
[13:38] <_piker_> two9a, have you heard of phurix?
[13:38] <Cartossin> making children write asp.net code is inhuman
[13:38] <Two9A> _piker_: NEVER.
[13:39] <_piker_> yea, thats probably for the best
[13:39] <Two9A> "huhu"
[13:39] <Kevino> I'm trying to figure out something here, I've got string that keeps return e
[13:39] <Two9A> Oh, he REALLY doesn't like me
[13:39] <Two9A> I should ban him out of spite
[13:40] <_piker_> did he message you?
[13:40] <Two9A> Nah, I can feel his hate from here
[13:40] <du_> kevino 80kb string aint shit
[13:40] <_piker_> lol
[13:40] <Kevino> du_ Exactly, which is why I can't figure out why empty() returns true on it
[13:41] <du_> ill tell you
[13:41] <du_> how are you calling empty
[13:41] <Two9A> Also, empty() is possibly the worst function in history
[13:41] <Kevino> if(empty($form['paste']))
[13:41] <Two9A> Did you know "0" is empty
[13:41] <echoThis> kevino: if you print($_POST['var']) with 80kb... does it show up ?
[13:41] <deleet> Two9A: lol, the name is bad but the function is ok
[13:41] <Kevino> Nope
[13:41] <echoThis> yeah, Two9A is right... just us if ($form['paste'] != ""){
[13:41] <du_> well.. im out of ideas.
[13:42] <deleet> as long as you know what it does, you'll be fine.
[13:42] <Two9A> Kevino: Sounds like your php.ini is cutting off the POST data
[13:42] <du_> echoThis what if $form['paste'] == "\n"
[13:42] <Two9A> du_: Then it's != ""
[13:42] <Two9A> NOW WHAT
[13:42] <echoThis> du_: are you retarded ?
[13:42] <du_> but still empty
[13:42] <echoThis> uh, that's not fucking empty
[13:42] <Two9A> Nah, empty("\n") is false
[13:42] <du_> and so is "\t" fuck yes it is
[13:43] <Two9A> Now I have to check it. FUCK YOU
[13:43] <Kevino> Well the string is my dxdaig printout so it's not empty and I can even short
[13:43] <echoThis> Kevino: check your post max size in php.ini
[13:43] <Two9A> $a="\n"; var_dump(empty($a));
[13:43] <Two9A> bool(false)
[13:43] <Two9A> NOW WHAT
[13:43] <kryps> Now go home.
[13:43] <du_> well that is the suck
[13:44] <du_> because ive been using it to find strings of just whitespace
[13:44] <du_> without problem
[13:44] <Two9A> You seem to fal.
[13:44] <Two9A> What in the fuck.
[13:44] <Two9A> FAIL.
[13:44] <echoThis> empty(du_); // true
[13:45] <Two9A> $du_->knowledge = array();
[13:45] <Two9A> And so on
[13:45] <du_> $file = explode( "\n", file_get_contents( $path ) ); foreach( $file as $line =&
[13:45] <Two9A> du_: Yes, because explode STRIPS THE SEPERATOR
[13:45] <Two9A> Oh my fucking god
[13:45] <du_> fail.
[13:45] <echoThis> sigh
[13:45] <du_> haha
[13:46] <echoThis> correct by mistake
[13:46] <Two9A> I'm just gonna go now, that's the end
[13:46] <Two9A> I can't TAKE any more
[13:46] <echoThis> also: du_ that is like the weirdest way to remove blank lines ever
[13:46] <du_> 8X
[13:48] <echoThis> du_ I shoiuld at least introduce you to php.net/file
[13:49] <DiGi`> grr
[13:49] <DiGi`> how can i modify multiple field types simultaniously
[13:49] <Kevino> Turns out my post_max_size is 8mb and this is a 80 kb string
[13:51] <rhelik> hey, if you use FF and Gmail, this junk is a must have http://www.flickr.co
[13:51] <impl> That's pretty ugly.
[13:51] <rhelik> with a black OS theme, it's sweet
[13:54] <Cartossin> I dont see how its functionally better than default gmail
[13:54] <rhelik> impl: not to mention, gmail was fugly anyway, this is a huge improvement
[13:54] <Cartossin> of course, I am completely blind to asthetics
[13:54] <rhelik> Cartossin: well install it and try it out http://www.globexdesigns.com/gmai
[13:54] <Cartossin> does it have improvments beyond asthetics?
[13:55] <deleet> Cartossin: since it's a css file, obviously no.
[13:55] <rhelik> I don't see any real functionality changes
[13:55] <Cartossin> deleet; oh then I dont see the point
[13:55] <rhelik> I mean, for attachements they use filetype icons instead of a paperclip, but
[13:55] <deleet> Cartossin: looks.
[13:55] * Cartossin stares blankly
[13:55] <Cartossin> what?
[13:56] <deleet> Cartossin: lol, the point is LOOKS :P
[13:56] <deleet> rhelik: its a CSS FILE, how the hell can it change anything at all except im
[13:56] <deleet> ah, and send your login information to their servers
[13:56] <deleet> that too.
[13:56] <rhelik> deleet: I never said it did :P
[13:56] <Cartossin> hmm I don't see why the looks are imporant... i normally view gmail at 25
[13:57] <Cartossin> so its got all sorts of little dithery oatmeal anyway
[13:57] <deleet> lol
[13:57] <rhelik> hopefully the gmail offline upgrade won't break this
[13:58] <deleet> ofc it will, it's designed for one browser only, if you don't use the browse
[13:58] <Cartossin> soon google will emulate exchange server
[13:58] <Cartossin> hehe
[13:58] <rhelik> deleet: well unless you know another browser that supports Firefox add-ons :
[13:58] <deleet> I know browsers that support css...
[13:59] <rhelik> well then port it yourself
[13:59] <deleet> get winrar and open up that .xpi, that's all you need.
[13:59] <rhelik> no need, it's here http://www.globexdesigns.com/gmail/gmail_dev.css
[14:01] <impl> rhelik: I just use its IMAP support with a real mail client ;s
[14:01] <ismellWRK> omg, what kinda project uses AOLserver
[14:01] <impl> AOLserver is actually quite reliable afaik
[14:01] <niklas`> tcl projects
[14:02] <niklas`> photo.net runs on it iirc
[14:02] <impl> It's not crap like AOL itself
[14:02] <rhelik> ismellWRK: is probably the kind of person to look at things like YUI and thi
[14:03] <impl> rhelik: A lot of places don't like it when you hotlink their shit.
[14:03] <GooseWRK> what language do you write a site in for mobile users
[14:03] <asonge> impl: yui is "hosted" now at yahoo...you can just use them so it caches ever
[14:03] <rhelik> impl: except that's half of the point of YUI
[14:04] <impl> asonge: That's stupid
[14:04] <niklas`> what exaclty is YUI?
[14:04] <impl> Yahoo! UI
[14:04] <impl> it's a Javascript library
[14:04] <asonge> niklas`: yahoo's gigantic javascript library and "design pattern" thingy
[14:04] <ismellWRK> the ExtJS fork is so much for sexy
[14:05] <niklas`> so wtf do you want to link to their hosted versions if you're using it? sav
[14:05] <niklas`> extjs is dog slow
[14:05] <asonge> niklas`: bandwidth and it's faster for the "user experience"
[14:05] <impl> I don't know, mootools is still my favorite
[14:05] <impl> It's fast as fuck
[14:05] <niklas`> i've planned to take a look at jQuery
[14:05] <ismellWRK> i dind't notice any problems with ext
[14:05] <asonge> niklas`: supposedly, they want to keep it all cached everywhere
[14:06] <niklas`> asonge: that's a nice conquer the world plan
[14:06] <ismellWRK> i just love how modular and well designed extjs is
[14:06] <impl> man wikipedia
[14:06] * jome wakes
[14:06] <ismellWRK> its a blast to code
[14:06] <niklas`> but how does it work to load js from another domain?
[14:06] <impl> "MooTools provides a documented API that is more object-oriented than the stan
[14:06] <jome> Half-sober :)
[14:06] <impl> ...
[14:06] <impl> jome: you're drunk on a Wednesday? nice
[14:07] <jome> impl: 'course, 'course
[14:07] <jome> Met some friends from school :)
[14:07] <impl> oh kay :>
[14:07] <niklas`> drunk on cider, what a pussy
[14:07] <jome> I drank a beer..
[14:07] <ismellWRK> lol
[14:07] <jome> And a Sex on the Beach
[14:07] <Kruge> Excuse me? Pot? Kettle? Black?
[14:07] <impl> What sort of drink is that?
[14:07] <jome> I asked for a "beer"
[14:08] <jome> impl: Juiceish
[14:08] <jome> impl: Pretty shitty
[14:08] <niklas`> a girly drink
[14:08] * jome is gonna call his prospective landlord now
[14:08] <impl> smart move.
[14:08] * jome bows
[14:08] <niklas`> Kruge: .se cider is just suger
[14:08] <Kruge> Ahh
[14:08] <niklas`> so you get a suger high instead of getting drunk
[14:09] <impl> I switched to beer after I had one cider when I went drinking with jome
[14:09] <impl> at least I think it was only one cider
[14:09] <impl> I don't really remember now :>
[14:10] <impl> it tasted pretty good, though
[14:10] <jome> ;D The one I had today was more sugar
[14:10] <jome> The ones impl and I had were ok imo
[14:10] <jome> Ok, call time, brb
[14:11] <impl> luls, don't fuck it up
[14:11] <jome> No worries, got the voicemail again
[14:12] <impl> ah well it's past 5PM now
[14:12] <impl> probably gone home
[14:12] <jome> Ah
[14:12] <neves> slydial.com
[14:12] <neves> is that what you used jome? ;x
[14:12] <jome> neves: I use Skype
[14:14] <scott___> skype is a virus
[14:15] <rhelik> an ass virus
[14:15] <scott___> t mobile is offering home phone for 10 bucks a month now
[14:15] <rhelik> scott___: you need to have a $40+ cell phone plan, but it doesn't use your m
[14:15] <impl> skype is too lazy to be a virus
[14:16] <jome> :D
[14:16] <Mr_Grim> does anyone know how to format mysql to do parameterized queries with LIKE
[14:16] <rhelik> scott___: it looks like it's VoIP with cell as a backup
[14:16] <Mr_Grim> LIKE %?foobar%
[14:17] * acit is now known as Acit
[14:19] <Shadda> fucking mac
[14:19] <Shadda> why does there always have to be something wrong
[14:19] <rhelik> Mr_Grim: I guess nobody here writes secure code, or they're all using SP...
[14:19] <Shadda> nothing can just fucking work
[14:19] <chillmac> when coding a project, do you use a special class for mysql f.e.? ..or som
[14:19] <Mr_Grim> rhelik i can do it with MS SQL
[14:20] <Mr_Grim> with MS SQL its LIKE '%' + @foobar + '% '
[14:20] <Mr_Grim> need to translate that to MySQL
[14:20] <Mr_Grim> rhelik people here are still using mysql_connect
[14:20] <rhelik> Mr_Grim: I can't really help you, I use PostGres and I haven't used params o
[14:20] <ismellWRK> <Shadda> fucking mac
[14:20] <ismellWRK> haha
[14:20] <jjshoe> like expects single quotes no?
[14:21] <jjshoe> LIKE 'cow'
[14:21] <ismellWRK> this a php project your coding ?
[14:21] <jjshoe> dunno, i perl you'd just do LIKE ?
[14:21] <jjshoe> and it'd figure it out :P
[14:21] <Mr_Grim> its really a .NET thing but the paramterization works the same way
[14:21] <Mr_Grim> i get my ass kicked for mentioning SQL on C#
[14:21] <Mr_Grim> MySQL
[14:21] <ismellWRK> SELECT * from table WHERE column LIKE ?
[14:21] <niklas`> Mr_Grim: http://se2.php.net/manual/en/pdostatement.bindparam.php
[14:22] <chillmac> anyone?
[14:22] <ismellWRK> chillmac: use pdo
[14:22] <Mr_Grim> ahh it is in there
[14:22] <Mr_Grim> thanks
[14:22] <Mr_Grim> there we go
[14:23] <chillmac> ismell, why use pdo for adodb f.e.?
[14:23] <chillmac> *before
[14:24] * chris-m is now known as Chr|s
[14:25] <du_> Hey this is similar to other questions I've asked before but I'm familiar enoug
[14:25] <du_> like I developed<spooky`> because it's extremely american and opptomistic
[14:25] <du_> <spooky`> its like you all chipper talking to whiz
[14:25] <du_> few... luckily that wasnt more sensitive clipboard info
[14:26] <Mr_Grim> yup that pdo example helped
[14:27] <Mr_Grim> got it werkin in C# now
[14:27] <Mr_Grim> haha
[14:27] * easyoh is now known as eAsYoH
[14:35] <P-O> how many days can it take to receive a deposit from paypal (to confirm account)
[14:35] <asonge> 1-3
[14:35] <Shadda> business days
[14:36] <P-O> i wish it would be instant like interac
[14:36] <asonge> P-O: it's pretty fast if you're using bofa or another bank they have an onli
[14:36] <impl> You could just confirm it using the way that gives them access to your bank ac
[14:36] <impl> However, I opted to get a free $0.33.
[14:36] <asonge> impl: not all banks have that option
[14:37] <P-O> im in canada
[14:37] <P-O> with bank of montreal
[14:37] <Smong> meow
[14:37] <impl> anyway, it takes a few days. no big deal though.
[14:37] <P-O> i asked for confirmaiton on monday
[14:37] <P-O> still no deposit
[14:38] <impl> Yeah
[14:38] <P-O> on paypal end it says they are sent
[14:38] <impl> Monday + 3 != Wednesday
[14:39] <Smong> Good evening PHPenis
[14:39] <tomalak> yea, it's always the 3 part, not the 1- part
[14:39] <tomalak> i've /never/ had a transaction come through before 3 days passed, if "1-3 d
[14:39] <tomalak> ever
[14:40] <tomalak> it's all a big scam to keep interest in the banking system and away from yo
[14:40] <P-O> i agree
[14:40] <P-O> make sense
[14:40] <tomalak> i mean, seriously. in this day and age of automation and computers, why on
[14:40] <tomalak> these aren't slips of paper being couriered by horse and carriage to the ba
[14:40] <niklas`> 'cos banks only cause of existans is to cause you greif
[14:41] <tomalak> mm
[14:41] <niklas`> if think sweden sends money between the banks 2 times a day now
[14:42] <P-O> credit card is slow as well
[14:42] <Shadda> getting php to play nice with postgres on osx is such a pain in the ass
[14:42] <P-O> it takes a few days before it appears on your online statemnt
[14:43] <asonge> Shadda: bwahahahaha
[14:43] <Shadda> finally
[14:43] <Shadda> fucking finally
[14:44] <asonge> Shadda: osx is shit man
[14:44] <asonge> great desktop, terrible workstation
[14:44] <Shadda> oh I know
[14:44] <niklas`> Shadda: only took me a few hours, you suck! ;)
[14:45] <niklas`> 1) install compiler 2) download apache, php, postgres 3) compile each 4) do
[14:45] <niklas`> not exactly the quickest task on my 1.5ghz g4
[14:45] <tomalak> P-O yup
[14:45] <asonge> niklas`: many php libs won't compile on osx deps
[14:45] <asonge> niklas`: readline, for instance, is terrible in osx
[14:46] <niklas`> can't remember if i got readline into psql or not
[14:46] <Shadda> asonge: but I leave my dell at work, it's too big a pile to use at home
[14:46] <Shadda> dude, I love dell laptops
[14:46] <Shadda> but the one i have at adk
[14:46] <Shadda> is the worst lappy i've ever used
[14:46] <Shadda> it's satan.
[14:47] <asonge> cheap or just super-huge?
[14:47] <Shadda> buggy as FUCK
[14:47] <Shadda> if the docking station doesn't kill it, it suicides on its own
[14:48] <niklas`> i wish the damn macbook pro had a dockingstation
[14:48] <Shadda> 50% of the time it stalls while booting windows (keep in mind it was a clean
[14:48] <Shadda> niklas`: fucking tell me about it
[14:48] <Shadda> the video card in it supports dual monitors
[14:48] <Shadda> but noooo we can't have a docking station
[14:48] <niklas`> dockingstations are ace, just put the laptop down and everything is plugged
[14:49] <niklas`> granted ofcourse windows surives the maneouver
[14:49] <Shadda> aye
[14:49] <spacix_> Any suggestions what could be a open source webshop easy to implement for m
[14:49] <spacix_> for some small articles, like 100
[14:52] <Shadda> asonge: grr fucking hell
[14:52] <Shadda> asonge: failed on the make
[14:52] <asonge> Shadda: bwahaha
[14:52] <asonge> Shadda: apache or php?
[14:52] <Shadda> php
[14:52] <asonge> is the apxs2 any good?
[14:52] <Shadda> ld: symbol(s) not found
[14:52] <Shadda> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[14:52] <Shadda> make: *** [libs/libphp5.bundle] Error 1
[14:52] <Shadda> yeah, i rebuilt apache
[14:52] <asonge> does it make without --with-apxs2?
[14:53] <spooky> i'm getting a wierd error with the folloing query: "SELECT * FROM `tbl_user`
[14:53] <Shadda> asonge: no
[14:53] <spooky> any idea what is going on?
[14:53] <asonge> spooky: wrong query for that error.
[14:53] <spooky> i know
[14:53] * spacix_ is now known as spac1x
[14:53] <spooky> that's the wierd thing
[14:54] <asonge> Shadda: god damn...what lib does it look like?
[14:54] <Shadda> eh fuck it
[14:54] <Shadda> it's been one problem after another
[14:54] <spooky> i would expect it for an insert
[14:55] <tomalak> spooky: yea, odds are it's not coming from that select and you're debugging
[14:56] <ron_frown> humph
[14:56] <tomalak> still
[14:56] <tomalak> why do people keep asking about sql errors in #php
[14:56] <asonge> tomalak: #mysql is full of tools
[14:56] <tomalak> yea but so is #php *shrug*
[14:56] <asonge> lol
[14:56] <tomalak> oooh he cross posted there
[14:57] <spooky> doh, i'm an idiot
[14:57] <spooky> and blind
[14:57] <Trancer> dorks
[14:57] <tomalak> quite.
[14:57] <tomalak> told you.
[14:57] <tomalak> next time check first ;(
[14:58] <caution> hey, I've got a stupid question :)
[14:58] <caution> and its javascript, but that channel is quiet right now, and this is a simp
[14:58] <caution> document.'+obj.id+'.focus();
[14:58] <caution> what's wrong with that
[14:58] <spooky> i was triggering a second query with out noticing =[
[14:58] <caution> im a total beginner with js
[14:58] <Shadda> ...everything
[14:58] <Shadda> you'd have to eval() that
[14:58] <caution> k, I'll go read up on eval
[14:59] <niklas`> i thought everyone used somethign fancy as $('id').focus() these days
[14:59] <Shadda> err wait
[14:59] <asonge> Shadda: no you wouldn't
[14:59] <Shadda> that wouldn't een work
[14:59] <asonge> document[obj.id].focus();
[14:59] <Shadda> yeah ;p
[14:59] <ron_frown> having the occasional fire to put out at works ure makes the day move a l
[14:59] <ron_frown> kinda nice.
[14:59] <asonge> caution: .foo == ['foo']
[15:00] <Shadda> asonge: at first glance it looked like he was attempting something like, doc
[15:00] <caution> alright
[15:00] <jjshoe> did someone say tool? i feel a little moist right now
[15:01] * niklas` throws a wrench at jjshoe
[15:01] <chillmac> Shai-Tan, just reading your PDO article on phpro.org .. doesnt it take age
[15:02] <hhos> anyone know an article or program that can help me make documentation out of m
[15:03] <hhos> or will i just have to do it manually? the screenshots will need to change fai
[15:03] <niklas`> comments in the code goes a long way
[15:03] <hhos> for sure
[15:03] * daffakiwi is now known as daffa
[15:03] <niklas`> along with a spec document
[15:04] <aka> MySql question: can anyone see why my count doesn't work? http://dpaste.com/hol
[15:04] <aka> I know I am just being an ignorant slut about this
[15:04] <aka> wtf am I missing?
[15:05] <niklas`> move AND saved_flyers.active > -1 to the WHERE
[15:05] <jjshoe> re: who ever said #php is full of tools, honestly, this is the most fun I've
[15:05] <jjshoe> reminds of irc before it sucked cack.
[15:05] <jjshoe> :D
[15:05] <ron_frown> wow
[15:05] <ron_frown> I read that wrong
[15:05] <jjshoe> hahaha
[15:05] <jjshoe> yeah that sounds bad
[15:05] <jjshoe> lol
[15:05] <ron_frown> as in jjshoe: reminds of irc before I sucked cack.
[15:06] <niklas`> ron_frown: fishing for a bj?
[15:06] * jjshoe puts on the red light
[15:06] <impl> jjshoe: That's probably the best thing I've ever seen written about this chann
[15:06] <aka> niklas`: That doesn't do anything :\
[15:06] * anubis1^ is now known as _anubis1^
[15:06] <niklas`> aka: makes the query prettier atleast
[15:06] <niklas`> what about count(brokers.id) ?
[15:07] <Shai-Tan> impl: ban him
[15:07] <aka> newp :\
[15:07] <aka> I can not figure this out
[15:07] <ron_frown> ok
[15:07] <ron_frown> wt
[15:07] <chillmac> Shai-Tan, any arguments for the question? :x
[15:07] <ron_frown> anyone heard of valero gas?
[15:08] <jjshoe> ron_frown yeah
[15:08] <ron_frown> is it shit or what
[15:08] <jjshoe> ron_frown never been crazy enough to put it in my mini :)
[15:08] <ron_frown> its 4.60 something for premium
[15:09] <ron_frown> directly across the street, shell with 4.28 for premium
[15:09] <jjshoe> sounds like valero bought their last truck later then the shell
[15:09] <asonge> ron_frown: all the gas comes from the same pipeline...the question is is it
[15:09] <jjshoe> eh, it's not like the tanks matter, because all the gas gets filtered before
[15:09] <ron_frown> I like shell anyway
[15:09] <jjshoe> you should ask yourself about that filter :P
[15:10] <ron_frown> jjshoe: mini pooper?
[15:10] <jjshoe> I'm suprised they don't sell something you can filter your own gas with
[15:10] <jjshoe> ron_frown yeah
[15:10] <ron_frown> is it at least the turbo one?
[15:10] <niklas`> cooper s?
[15:10] <ron_frown> or sc
[15:10] <asonge> ron_frown: shell has a few additives, but all the gas comes from the same pi
[15:10] <jjshoe> no, no s, this is my daily commuter and I don't enjoy fealing every bump in
[15:10] <ron_frown> http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7258/bimmersidegp3.jpg
[15:10] <asonge> ron_frown: from hours $x to $y they put regular in the pipeline, then higher
[15:10] <ron_frown> aww yeah
[15:10] <ron_frown> twin turbo and runflast
[15:11] <ron_frown> flats
[15:11] <ron_frown> and its like 20x better than my sti's ride
[15:11] <jjshoe> run flats is honestly just a joke imho. not worth the money for me as a comm
[15:11] <jjshoe> especially since I'm a tool and I can run a jack
[15:11] <jome> Is that a BMW?
[15:12] <jjshoe> jome yes
[15:12] <jome> Ok..
[15:12] <jjshoe> jome the image name, and the logo on the hood
[15:12] * impl ponders
[15:12] <ron_frown> jjshoe: uhh I dont think they put a jack in the car if you get runflats
[15:12] * jome boggles
[15:13] * Acit is now known as acit
[15:13] <ron_frown> I know mine didnt come with shit except a rediculously large battery in t
[15:13] <ron_frown> its like a god damn semi truck battery
[15:13] <ron_frown> at least 18 inches wide
[15:13] <jjshoe> ron_frown they don't, but I'm saying, I can change a flat tire, so I don't g
[15:13] <ron_frown> I can too, but with AAA why bother
[15:13] <asonge> ron_frown: i've had really slow response times with AAA
[15:13] <jjshoe> I havent had AAA in a year, but they keep sending me the cards, it's pretty
[15:13] <ron_frown> not I
[15:14] <asonge> ron_frown: my sister had a flat and took an old guy 45 minutes to get there
[15:14] <ron_frown> they've been really pretty good
[15:14] <ron_frown> I dont have a spare anyway
[15:14] <ron_frown> thaus no jack =)
[15:14] <jjshoe> asonge and your sister could have changed it in 30 minutes if she had wanted
[15:14] <ron_frown> thus
[15:14] <ron_frown> jjshoe: I think you are giving women in general too much credit
[15:14] <asonge> jjshoe: she was on the way to a student teaching session
[15:15] <jjshoe> asonge :\
[15:15] <jjshoe> ron_frown my gf could change a flat, she can also eat a twizzler in one bite
[15:15] <asonge> man, there's so much wrong with this zfw implementation
[15:15] <asonge> smarty, for one
[15:15] <cnu> asonge: what's zfw? o.o
[15:15] <jjshoe> zend frame work?
[15:16] <cnu> akai
[15:16] <asonge> zend framework, yeah
[15:16] <ron_frown> jjshoe: maybe all you can want, but can she eat a fucking giant kielbasa
[15:16] <ron_frown> thats what *I* want
[15:16] <impl> Trancer: OH HAI HAPPY BIRTHDAY
[15:16] <asonge> IT'S TRANCER'S BIRFDAY?
[15:16] <ron_frown> my wife can do all that shiz too.. shit she put a cold air intake on her
[15:16] <ron_frown> and when I work on the car, she washes them in the parts washer
[15:16] * ron_frown thrusts hips
[15:17] <jome> Trancer: HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR TRANCER
[15:17] <neves> is she manly too?
[15:17] <impl> asonge: YSEEE
[15:17] <ron_frown> few people here have seen her
[15:17] <neves> jk, i hear she's quite the looker. off for some night fishing.
[15:17] <ron_frown> I'll just put it this way
[15:17] <jjshoe> ron_frown hahahaha
[15:17] <ron_frown> I think I married UP
[15:18] <ron_frown> hot,classy,knows cars, can carry on an intelligent conversation
[15:18] <jjshoe> ron_frown just hope she doesn't trade you in!
[15:18] <ron_frown> I do too
[15:18] <ron_frown> suck for her
[15:18] <ron_frown> I am the breadwinner
[15:18] <ron_frown> and a lot of shit is in her name
[15:18] <ron_frown> heh
[15:18] <ron_frown> =)
[15:18] <jjshoe> either way, here's to hot women who know cars!
[15:19] <niklas`> who cares if they know cars as long as they are hot?
[15:19] <jjshoe> niklas` hot and stupid helps.
[15:19] <neves> -^
[15:20] <ron_frown> niklas
[15:20] <ron_frown> I've dated hot women that were dumb...
[15:20] <ron_frown> its just not worth the time
[15:20] <ron_frown> like fucking babysitting
[15:20] <niklas`> so they are dump if they don't know cars?
[15:20] <niklas`> err dumb
[15:20] <ron_frown> no
[15:21] <ron_frown> just saying the fact that shes hot and intelligent is good, the fact that
[15:21] * BlueEagl1 is now known as BlueEagle
[15:21] <ron_frown> and the fact that she knows computers but doesnt play wow, or do that who
[15:21] <ron_frown> is a blessing from god
[15:21] <aka> who are we talking about?
[15:21] <aka> obviously not a real life person
[15:21] <niklas`> mrs ron_frowm
[15:22] <ron_frown> when I say knows computers I mean she knows her way around... not a progr
[15:22] <aka> pics or it didn't exist
[15:22] <impl> I would fist that
[15:22] <impl> Are we still talking about that?
[15:23] <aka> yeah
[15:23] <Kagee> Is PHP often compiled with gettext?
[15:25] <asonge> Kagee: it's packaged with it, i believe, but longopts are php5.3 only or php
[15:25] <asonge> s/are/or/
[15:25] <asonge> anyone here ever use git-svn any?
[15:25] * _Pion is now known as Pion
[15:26] <Kagee> ef'asonge: I'mm just deciding how to translate my application. What is «long
[15:26] <asonge> Kagee: oh, gettext, i had that confused with something else
[15:26] <asonge> Kagee: gettext is there whereever people expect a translated application
[15:27] <Shai-Tan> gettext is for homo's
[15:28] <impl> What do you prefer? Java ResourceBundles?
[15:28] <aka> I wonder if this count issue is a Bug in MySql
[15:28] <aka> http://pastie.org/244460
[15:29] <Shai-Tan> if I have to translate a site, eg: to spanish, I just grab a latino crack
[15:29] <Kagee> ef'Shai-Tan: Norway is depleted of latino crack whores
[15:30] <Shai-Tan> Kagee: use swedes, they are basically the same
[15:30] <Shai-Tan> but cant code
[15:31] <aka> asonge / Shai-Tan: Using MySql a count on a query that returns a num of rows us
[15:31] <Shai-Tan> I think you mean group by
[15:32] <Shai-Tan> aka: ask on freenode #mysql, the devs all hang out there
[15:32] <aka> http://pastie.org/244460 << Did you see that Shai-Tan?
[15:32] <Shai-Tan> nope
[15:32] <aka> yeah I did ask there Shai-Tan, someone mentioned it might be a bug
[15:32] <erf> Evening
[15:32] <Shai-Tan> then it might be a bug :)
[15:32] <aka> yeah trying to figur eit out :D
[15:33] <erf> I'm well happy, I can wear 32" jeans again
[15:33] <niklas`> i suspect i could squeese myself into a pair of 29", but it'd be terribly u
[15:34] <Czernobog> anyone have intimate knowledge of what mcrypt does when you pass in a key
[15:34] <Czernobog> for example, the docs say: If it's smaller that the required keysize, it
[15:34] <Czernobog> but if I try to emulate it in Perl, by padding the key with nulls - the e
[15:35] <rhelik> lol @ dev job HRs who reply (after just recieving my resume) and asking me t
[15:35] <rza> Czernobog: read the source
[15:35] <Czernobog> leading me to wonder what exactly mcrypt is doing to the too-short key
[15:35] <rhelik> I don't even want the job, and I'm still tempted to just reply "I'm not fill
[15:35] <Czernobog> guess I shall
[15:38] * _Pion is now known as Pion
[15:38] <Shadda> niklas`: big is sexy, don't let anyone tell you differently.
[15:38] <Shadda> just because you're a big girl doesn't mean you can't have fun
[15:39] <niklas`> chubby chaser are we?
[15:41] <Trancer> thanks dear :-)
[15:41] <Trancer> and yes, it's my birthday
[15:41] <Trancer> 25 today
[15:41] <asonge> Trancer: you've passed into the era of OLD
[15:41] <domeh> Trancer: congrats!
[15:41] <Trancer> :~(
[15:41] <asonge> how's it feel?
[15:41] <Trancer> OLD
[15:42] <domeh> i turned 25 february.
[15:42] <domeh> it's not that bad :)
[15:42] <Trancer> zomg, I am glad to be younger then :P
[15:42] <erf> Hey Trancer, happy birthday
[15:42] <domeh> men become more handsome when they get older :)
[15:42] <Trancer> thanks erf ;-)
[15:42] <aka> Trancer... welcome to old age!
[15:42] <Trancer> domeh: ladies too
[15:42] * erf changes topic to '!rules :: www.php.net/manual :: Need 1 more: www.pgregg.com/vps/swe
[15:42] <Shadda> what the hell
[15:42] <Shadda> he's lying
[15:43] <Shadda> he had a birthday last year
[15:43] <domeh> Trancer: they start to get worse after 25 :)
[15:43] <aka> I am not lying...
[15:43] <Trancer> domeh: the last one I shagged was 30 and she was fit enough :P
[15:43] <aka> haha
[15:43] <domeh> but now gotta go to sleep, dark knight was quite good, i recommend >
[15:43] <randomspl> is there an expiry time for sessions, if so, what is it? google didnt fin
[15:43] <Trancer> hehe nite
[15:43] <Trancer> I am busy with wrok
[15:43] <Trancer> till like 4 AM probly
[15:43] <Shadda> randomspl: sessions expire when the browser closes
[15:43] <aka> UPGRADING MY MYSQL FROM 4 TO 5 ON A SHARED HOSTING WEBSERVER...
[15:43] <Shadda> unless you set a TTL on them, in which case they expire when the TTL is reac
[15:43] * aka IS NERVOUS
[15:44] <Shadda> whichever comes first
[15:44] <randomspl> Shadda, does php clean up unused sessions, say after several months?
[15:44] <Shadda> yes
[15:44] <randomspl> does it take longer than a few days?
[15:45] <rhelik> Spore Goatse (work safe) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1897203672
[15:45] <Shadda> its random, but it's adjustable
[15:45] <randomspl> ok, cheers
[15:46] <Cartossin> that is horrid
[15:46] <rhelik> dude it's on youtube
[15:46] <Cartossin> It actually got removed from youtube
[15:46] <rhelik> oh, ur rite
[15:46] <Cartossin> the first time i saw it, i tried to repost, it was removed for content
[15:47] <Cartossin> but im sure 1000 people reposted
[15:48] <randomspl> shadda - is it more than a few days? sorry to be a pain
[15:48] <Shadda> it's *random*
[15:49] <Shadda> the session files aren't timestamped
[15:49] <randomspl> right ok
[15:49] <rza> theres garbage collection propability
[15:49] <rza> so each session_start rolls a dice
[15:50] <rza> and if it hits the correct number then the session files older than the thresho
[15:50] <rza> i think by default the propability is 1/100
[15:50] <randomspl> what's the min theshold?
[15:50] <rza> 1
[15:50] <rza> that would be your session lifetime
[15:51] <rza> 1440 is the default
[15:51] <randomspl> in seconds, right?
[15:51] <rza> why do you need to clean them?
[15:51] <randomspl> i have a script where browsers are gonna be on it for a long time, fillin
[15:51] <rza> more than 1440 seconds without a reload?
[15:51] <randomspl> yep
[15:52] <rza> do an ajax poller
[15:52] <rza> that polls the server every twenty seconds on the background
[15:52] <rza> to keep the session alive
[15:52] <randomspl> yea sounds like a good idea
[15:52] <randomspl> cheers for your help
[15:52] * _Pion is now known as Pion
[15:59] <DaMouse> Two9A: ping
[16:22] <PaulB> do you guys make a function for your get or post vars?
[16:22] <aka> what do you mena a function?
[16:22] <aka> usually people make sometype of class/method/function to handle input... sanati
[16:24] <Czernobog> yeah... I have my global utility class with my standard functions and one
[16:25] <Kagee> How do i auto increment a primary key in adodb?
[16:25] <Mr_Grim> i use winforms
[16:25] <Mr_Grim> erg
[16:25] <Mr_Grim> i mean
[16:25] <Mr_Grim> i use HTML_QuickForm from pear
[16:25] <Mr_Grim> with a template engine
[16:25] <Mr_Grim> that does everything for you
[16:26] <Mr_Grim> validates / santaizes and even remembers values on the form incase you hit
[16:26] <Mr_Grim> man my spelling is bad
[16:29] <ndgophone> feti, omg is that you in #python
[16:30] <syc> wi syc
[16:30] <syc> err
[16:30] <feti> yeah, it's a very, very bad idea asking any questions in there
[16:30] <feti> i don't know why i bother sometimes
[16:31] <feti> i know most of the questions i'm asking, and i'm second guessing myself cause
[16:31] <syc> feti: should i join? ask questions about where i can get free scripts?
[16:31] <feti> lol
[16:31] <ndgophone> last time i asked a question in there I ended up fighting with this op "L
[16:31] <feti> yeah, they're... interesting
[16:31] <ndgophone> This was last night
[16:31] <ndgophone> unfortunately he's an idiot and he banned me wrong
[16:31] <feti> lol
[16:31] <ndgophone> So I just rejoined
[16:31] <syc> ban evader
[16:31] <ndgophone> I didn't evade
[16:31] <ndgophone> I was never banned
[16:31] <feti> heh
[16:31] <ndgophone> But I'm sure he'll say I'm evading when he sees me in there.
[16:32] <feti> there is only a handful of people in that channel that answer questions, the r
[16:32] <feti> as you can see with the Q i just asked
[16:32] <ndgophone> Leeds antagonized me
[16:32] <syc> sounds like an awesome place for me to hang out
[16:32] <feti> syc: you'd like it
[16:32] <ndgophone> He told me to "paste my code or piss off"
[16:32] <impl> Did you get banned, feti?
[16:32] <feti> impl: nope
[16:32] <ndgophone> After I had already told the channel that I took it directly from the doc
[16:32] <syc> feti: couldn't you just unban yourself?
[16:32] <impl> Is this not EFnet? :s
[16:32] <syc> feti: takeover the channel?
[16:32] <ndgophone> And that pasting it would be retarded
[16:32] <feti> i asked if there's any special locking i need to do in forked processes pre/po
[16:32] <feti> and he says 'Why are you using that?'
[16:33] <impl> man wtf network am I on
[16:33] <ndgophone> So then I asked Leeds "Are you stupid?"
[16:33] <feti> earlier i asked a question regarding server sockets, and the guy asked 'Why ar
[16:33] <ndgophone> And he kicked me out
[16:33] <feti> like he was upset i'd ever create a socket by hand instead of using a single-p
[16:33] <syc> ndgophone: obviously you didn't follow the rules
[16:33] <feti> impl: freenode
[16:33] <ndgophone> And I came back and I told him he was a powerhungry lunatic in so many wo
[16:33] <feti> not even worth it
[16:34] <syc> ndgophone: lame, people do that here, Shai-Tan posts them on his website
[16:34] <ndgophone> I never get any help out of that channel syc
[16:34] <ndgophone> #python used to be great
[16:34] <syc> ndgophone: now i'm hoping you get no help here either! everyone sign the pact
[16:34] <ndgophone> now it's full of retards
[16:34] <ndgophone> I don't normally ask for help on IRC though...
[16:34] <ndgophone> I try to figure shit out myself
[16:34] <syc> i try to find code at hotscripts and combine them altogether to make something
[16:34] <ndgophone> Like for every 1000 hours I program I probably ask questions on IRC 1 in
[16:35] <syc> sometimes i get help from rentacoder
[16:35] <ndgophone> syc, i know you're lying
[16:35] <syc> hey.. they're alot nicer there, plus, they're cheaper in terms of sanity
[16:35] <syc> here we have to deal with feti, impl, etc
[16:35] <impl> cock-monger.
[16:36] <syc> in your dreams.
[16:36] <impl> shit there's a lot of users in that channel
[16:36] <ndgophone> Right now I'm trying to figure something out in Python SQLAlchemy....
[16:37] <ndgophone> The only person who can ever really help me with SQLAlchemy is the guy wh
[16:38] <ndgophone> It seems to be pretty common for people to completely miss the point and
[16:39] <ndgophone> on freenode that is
[16:39] <impl> Sounds about right.
[16:40] <ndgophone> I think it's cause there is a lot of 14 year olds on freenode
[16:40] <feti> i do feel like i'm in a room full of in-the-box thinking indians when i ask an
[16:40] <feti> OMG YOU ARE DOING IT A NEW WAY? WHY?!
[16:41] <feti> use what everybody else uses. be a drone. use DJANGO!
[16:41] <ndgophone> I hate Django
[16:41] <feti> you're telling me
[16:41] <ndgophone> I like Pylons though
[16:41] <ndgophone> TurboGears...is what this freelance project I'm working on uses....ugh...
[16:42] <feti> hehe
[16:42] <ndgophone> And the "lead developer" of the project is a moron
[16:43] <despq> !rules
[16:43] <ndgophone> All I want to do is take my instance of a reflector object that is storin
[16:44] <ndgophone> Now you'd think someone has done this before and it'd be easy to get an a
[16:44] <ndgophone> i'm getting told to do a whole bunch of stupid crap
[16:45] <despq> I haven't logged on to my site in awhile and may have forgotten how..stupid..
[16:46] <ndgophone> despq, Dumb question but did you maybe....check the error log?
[16:46] <despq> not yet
[16:46] <despq> I'm just trying to see if I forgot how or not, at this point.
[16:46] <despq> isn't that the usual login?
[16:47] <syc> despq: give me the url, and ftp access
[16:47] <syc> despq: i will fix 4 u
[16:47] <despq> ya sure
[16:47] <despq> I don't know you..sorry
[16:47] <syc> good luck to you!
[16:47] <despq> I just want the simple answer to my question
[16:48] <Shadda> your question is asenine heh
[16:49] <despq> but if you want to check out my site..go ahead.
[16:49] <Shadda> how the fuck do you expect us to know how to log in to your site?
[16:49] <despq> www.guruhelp.net
[16:49] <despq> I installed using the default..so I thought it would be /admin to get me to t
[16:49] <jjshoe> his site is broken but it's called guruhelp?
[16:49] <jjshoe> bwahahahahaha
[16:50] <despq> but they upgrdaded the system since the last time I was logged in and may hav
[16:50] <despq> yes..funny isn't it..well..this time the guru needs the help.
[16:50] <dG__> yello
[16:51] <WraithX> guys, is it possible to break out of this loop:
[16:51] <WraithX> <?php if ($posts) : foreach ($posts as $post) : start_wp(); ?>
[16:51] <despq> gee..sorry to botther you all..I figgured i t out
[16:51] <despq> I forgot the .php
[16:52] <despq> hahaha
[16:52] <dG__> I was wondering... anyone here uses any proggie to publish projects? that is,
[16:52] <syc> despq: remember to secure oscommerce before you get hacked
[16:52] <syc> despq: sorry, php nuke.
[16:52] <despq> right
[16:53] <syc> dG__: you could use webdav
[16:53] <syc> dG__: i end up tarballing my projects, uploading that, then running a little se
[16:53] <syc> dG__: usually with zmodem.
[16:54] <dG__> I was trying to get the publishing process as simple as it's possible
[16:54] <dG__> I'm thinking with rsync
[16:54] <dG__> however... I still don't know :)
[16:55] <dG__> never gave webdav a chance tho
[17:04] <despq> I remembered it all now..funny how that seems to happen AFTER I ask for help.
[17:05] * P_ is now known as Percy
[17:05] <despq> how about this question: what dir is the submitted sites in, by default?
[17:05] <Percy> hi
[17:06] <despq> I want to quickly remove all submitted sites.
[17:08] <Percy> hey i am creating download script
[17:08] <Percy> and I have a small question
[17:08] <Percy> any one with experiance available on this channel
[17:08] <syc> Percy: just ask
[17:09] <syc> despq: do you need help with php-nuke ?
[17:09] <despq> yes
[17:09] <syc> despq: please read !rules
[17:09] <Percy> okay i made a script that downloads files from a sepcific directory but I wan
[17:10] <syc> Percy: can you pastebin the script?
[17:10] <dG__> nn all
[17:10] <syc> Percy: don't msg, just talk here
[17:12] <b0xa> how do I force cells to expand to fit the height of the page? (ie: 3col with h
[17:12] <Percy> ok
[17:12] <Percy> i don't know how to pastebin
[17:12] <syc> Percy: please do not paste 400 lines of code to me
[17:12] <syc> Percy: www.pastebin.com
[17:13] <syc> Percy: provide url to chan after paste
[17:14] <syc> b0xa: #css
[17:14] <Percy> http://pastebin.com/daeee02d
[17:15] <loadstr> dont send him to #css with his tabled layout!! :p
[17:16] <syc> Percy: you didn't write this.
[17:16] <Percy> i know]\
[17:16] <Percy> imodified it bit
[17:16] <deleet> we dont provide support for third party scripts
[17:16] <syc> Percy: read !rules
[17:17] <impl> I think libxml is too stupid to understand how RELAX NG is supposed to work
[17:17] <impl> I bet it can't even validate itself :\
[17:17] <b0xa> ta syc
[17:19] <TheSofa> http://pastebin.com/m3af99f53 Can anyone tell me why only the first result
[17:20] <syc> TheSofa: echo mysql_num_rows($result); ?
[17:20] <syc> TheSofa: echo count($return); ... and $return should be defined before using, $
[17:23] <TheSofa> it is not my script
[17:23] <caution> I'm running an ajax request and it's all going through properly, it even re
[17:23] <syc> TheSofa: read !rules ; we don't support third part scripts
[17:23] <caution> but code keeps executing after it
[17:23] <caution> it's like it's just getting skipped entirely
[17:23] <caution> any ideas?
[17:23] <syc> caution: pastebin the code, check for mysql_error if $result of query is FALSE
[17:25] <du_> do you folks know anything about joomla, like or dislike? anything i should be
[17:25] <deleet> I don't like CMS's, period.
[17:26] <syc> du_: super bloated, code is somewhat riddled with bad code, most extensions are
[17:26] <du_> great...
[17:26] <syc> du_: if making it for a client, prepare to answer the question 'it says the pag
[17:26] <deleet> have fun with joomla !
[17:26] <du_> anything else?
[17:27] <syc> du_: signup to joomla's website for security notices ;)
[17:27] <caution> http://pastebin.com/m762abd7b
[17:27] <syc> and, google: joomla exploit
[17:28] <syc> caution: are you aware that will update every single row?
[17:28] <ndgophone> lol joomla
[17:29] <ndgophone> hay syc i'd like to update your rows
[17:29] <syc> impl just did, update my columns and optimize my table
[17:29] <caution> im only using that table for testing
[17:29] <caution> content is the only row in it
[17:30] <syc> caution: fetch the return value from the query, check it for FALSE, if so, echo
[17:30] <ndgophone> why do you have a table with one row....
[17:31] <caution> k
[17:31] <caution> I gotta go to work
[17:31] <caution> I'll do this later
[17:31] <caution> but I'll just start checking for mysql errors
[17:31] <ndgophone> don't quit your job
[17:32] <ndgophone> i mean bye have a nice day
[17:34] <syc> time to update a blog for a guy riding his bike cross canada
[17:34] <ndgophone> what
[17:34] <aka> your boyfriend?
[17:35] <ndgophone> hi aka
[17:35] <syc> aka: manfriend
[17:36] <aka> sup ndgophone
[17:36] <aka> nice syc :D
[17:37] <taso> aka
[17:38] <taso> exactly the reason I jumped on irc
[17:38] <taso> and when i came back to my desk, bang, you're there
[17:38] <taso> what great timing
[17:40] <aka> hah cool
[17:40] <TheSofa> how can I make chars like ø,æ and å work in rss? Because to me they appear
[17:43] <drewxHI> whats a good editor for OS X that supports sftp?
[17:45] <deleet> TheSofa: look into ascii codes
[17:45] <deleet> such as &
[17:45] <aka> drewxHI: http://www.panic.com/coda/
[17:45] <aka> never used it but looks good
[17:53] <TheSofa> which php function turns the foreign char å into å ?
[17:54] <GooseWRK> htmlentities
[17:54] <GooseWRK> or maybe
[17:54] <GooseWRK> htmlspecialchars — Convert special characters to HTML entities
[17:55] <deleet> htmlentities is correct, transforms all characters into html entities
[17:55] <deleet> htmlspecialchars is just for & % and a few others
[17:56] <TheSofa> htmlspecialchars turns the foreign char å into å but I want to turn i
[17:56] <TheSofa> not å
[17:58] <cortar> do exception objects carry a type in them so as to allow writing something l
[17:59] <feti> get_class($e)
[18:04] <cortar> does the SimpleXML -> operator throw an exception if the element doesn't
[18:06] <cortar> ie, does an exception get thrown when a referenced property doesn't exist?
[18:07] <feti> no, it will not. it'll be treated as a normal error if you tried to access a n
[18:08] <feti> error_reporting(E_ALL|E_STRICT); ini_set('display_errors', 1);
[18:16] <cortar> If I get a PHP Fatal error for this, does it necessarily mean the script ter
[18:19] <cortar> that is, if I don't call set_error_handler to something other than the defau
[18:20] <TheSofa> why use feedburner when you can just link to your rss feed?
[18:21] <aka> if the error is fatal that means it died
[18:27] <nuth> the nice thing about the x-files is the intro is so crappy
[18:37] <nuth> Trancer: happy birthday
[18:39] <deleet> it's his birthday? :o
[18:40] <nuth> topic says so
[18:40] <deleet> happy birthday then Trancer ! :D
[18:40] <nuth> it was probably yesterday, but wtf ever
[18:40] <nuth> how are you deleet
[18:40] <nuth> my favorite .pt
[18:41] <deleet> meh, so-so
[18:42] <nuth> anything wrong?
[18:43] <deleet> lack of work is wrong :D
[18:44] <bnovc> "to" (and any subsequent words) was ignored because we limit queries to 32 wo
[18:44] <bnovc> WHAT
[18:44] <bnovc> when did that happen
[18:46] <Schucz> Ugh this new FB API is driving me mad
[18:49] <Trancer> thanks deleet and nuth :-)
[18:49] <Trancer> time to get to sleep
[18:49] <Trancer> just done with work
[18:49] <deleet> WAT
[18:49] <Trancer> -.-
[18:49] <deleet> NO WAI
[18:49] <deleet> time for PARTY
[18:49] <Trancer> eh WAI
[18:49] * deleet invites bitches
[18:49] <Trancer> woke up at 6 this morning
[18:49] <Trancer> just done :p
[18:49] <Trancer> so WAI
[18:49] <Mrgoose> hmm how come i cant enter Bert's into my database field. i use mysql_real_
[18:49] <deleet> rofl, THAT WAS EPIC
[18:50] <deleet> (02:49:52) • +deleet invites bitches
[18:50] <deleet> (02:49:53) —› join: (alpha232) (~NewUser@198-144-137-224.dyn.megbb.net)
[18:50] <deleet> AHAH
[18:50] <deleet> <3 alpha232
[18:50] <deleet> ok Trancer, have a gn :P
[18:50] <TheSofa> I know how to make favicons, but how can I make that favicon appear in the
[18:51] <deleet> TheSofa: name it favicon.ico and set it in your root folder
[18:51] <deleet> I think that's it
[18:51] <cortar> does any understand why changing this example to use simplexml_load_string i
[18:51] <cortar> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-element-getName.php
[18:54] <Mrgoose> hmm how come i cant enter Bert's into my database field. i use mysql_real_
[18:54] <asonge> Mrgoose: did you put '' around the escaped string?
[18:54] <Mrgoose> '$restaurantname'
[18:54] <Mrgoose> yea
[18:59] <asonge> then it should insert correctly
[18:59] <asonge> otherwise, you're doing it wrong.
[19:00] <deleet> $var = "Bert's"; $go = mysql_real_escape_string($var); ? that has to work lo
[19:04] <trickee> asonge check messages when you get a chance
[19:04] * deleet pokes trickee
[19:05] <asonge> trickee: just did
[19:05] <asonge> trickee: checking out now
[19:13] <trickee> asonge: let me know if that works now
[19:14] <nuth> deleet: epic?
[19:14] <deleet> nuth: legendary
[19:14] <nuth> I know what it means
[19:14] <nuth> but thanks
[19:14] <nuth> :)
[19:14] <deleet> :P
[19:15] <nuth> is alpha232 a female?
[19:16] <cortar> As per my last question, since simplexml_load_string returns a SimpleXMLElem
[19:18] <deleet> nuth: no
[19:22] <nuth> then it's not epic
[19:44] <c0m> searching for lolcat on cuil brings up this
[19:44] <c0m> http://www.cuilimg.com/imgsrv?i=020608:286423972689346
[19:48] <feti> c0m: cuil clearly is the search engine wave of the future
[19:49] <deleet> what is cuil
[19:49] <c0m> cuil seems to disregard the "not the size of the stick but the ...." mantra
[19:49] <c0m> cuil is a self-proclaimed google killer
[19:51] <deleet> well, it has some serious problems with foreign characters, that's for sure
[19:54] <Cartossin> well at least cuil is fast now...
[19:54] <Cartossin> it was reallly freakin slow the other day
[19:57] <somethina> feti: you are joking right?
[19:58] <somethina> I think cuil isn't that good
[19:58] <feti> yeah, i'm joking.
[19:58] <somethina> okay
[19:58] <somethina> lol
[20:02] <somethina> I feel kinda bad to be honest
[20:02] <somethina> not bad
[20:02] <somethina> dissapointed rather
[20:03] <somethina> it obviously took some serious engineering, time, and money to put cuil t
[20:03] <somethina> and I'm sure a lot of hope and belief
[20:03] <Mrgoose> yea they got like 33MM capital
[20:03] <feti> arrogance, concete
[20:03] <Mrgoose> investment capital
[20:03] <somethina> but I truly believe it is going to fail :/
[20:03] <somethina> I mean, the name is terrible
[20:04] <somethina> that's for starters
[20:04] <somethina> who funded them?
[20:04] <somethina> I was looking for that info
[20:05] <somethina> A funding from Tugboat Ventures and Greylock Partners, and series B fundi
[20:06] <P-O> if someone is able to bypass facebook autmated name checker, I can pay him 100$
[20:06] <somethina> I know how to bypass it
[20:06] <somethina> but I'm not telling :)
[20:07] <c0m> only reason why they got funding was because she was a google employee
[20:08] <Mrgoose> hmm
[20:08] <somethina> yeap
[20:08] <somethina> most likely
[20:08] <somethina> it's all about who knows who
[20:08] <Mrgoose> if i have an array that has A,B,C,D,E,F and i wanna do a query to selec
[20:09] <Mrgoose> sorry if i have A,B,C,D,E,F stored in a table field
[20:09] <Mrgoose> would a regular select work?
[20:09] <Super-Fly> = 'D'
[20:10] <c0m> hey
[20:10] <c0m> what do you guys think of offloading some error handling to another file
[20:11] <c0m> like ... if(error happens) { header("location: http://www.example.com/error.php
[20:12] <c0m> instead of having to wrap view code with if(error) { show this } else { show or
[20:12] <MattW> beer + rye chips is win
[20:12] <aka> for the fat!
[20:13] <Mrgoose> Super-Fly: that didnt work
[20:13] <c0m> +
[20:13] <c0m> woops
[20:13] <Mrgoose> i had to use RLIKE
[20:14] <somethina> is that REVERSE LIKE ?
[20:14] <MattW> Mrgoose I RLIKE you
[20:14] <Mrgoose> any other solution . i have a field that has A,B,C,D,E and i wanna query
[20:15] <Mrgoose> rlike is the only thing that seems to work so far
[20:15] <MattW> "you're doing it wrong"
[20:15] <Mrgoose> oh, how should i do it
[20:15] <MattW> don't store csv data in tables!
[20:15] <MattW> normalize
[20:15] <Mrgoose> heh its not a csv data
[20:15] <Mrgoose> its an array
[20:15] <MattW> ...
[20:16] <MattW> if you're holding multiple values in one column
[20:16] <MattW> you're holding csv
[20:16] * Super-Fly is now known as Super_Fly
[20:16] <Mrgoose> ok
[20:16] <Mrgoose> so what would be the proper solution
[20:16] <MattW> another table, with a foreign key to the row in question
[20:16] <MattW> one value per row
[20:16] <Mrgoose> ?
[20:16] <Mrgoose> kinda lost me there
[20:17] <MattW> ref_id | val
[20:17] <MattW> -----------
[20:17] <MattW> 1 | a
[20:17] <MattW> 1 | b
[20:17] <MattW> 1 | c
[20:17] <MattW> 1 | d
[20:17] <Kagee> I need a program to visualice a database design, anny sugestions?
[20:17] <MattW> select * from tb1 left join tb2 on tb1.id = tb2.ref_id;
[20:18] <Mrgoose> so for the main table i need to have one row per value? seems like it wou
[20:18] <somethina> Kagee: SELECT COUNT(*);
[20:19] * Super_Fly is now known as Super-Fly
[20:19] <Mrgoose> so how do people go about storing arrays in databases?
[20:20] <MattW> no, the main table stays the same, but your multiple value column is broken u
[20:20] <MattW> in another table
[20:20] <Mrgoose> so on the main table i would still have A,B,C,D
[20:20] <MattW> no
[20:20] <MattW> you'd drop that column.
[20:20] <MattW> you'd have a table that contained
[20:20] <MattW> A
[20:20] <MattW> B
[20:20] <MattW> C
[20:20] <MattW> D
[20:20] <Mrgoose> oh
[20:20] <MattW> with a row id
[20:20] <MattW> that links it to the original row
[20:21] <Mrgoose> oh oh
[20:21] <Mrgoose> got you
[20:21] <Mrgoose> so since the main table is users
[20:21] <Mrgoose> this table would be like user_Categories
[20:21] <MattW> yes.
[20:21] <Mrgoose> yea makes sense
[20:21] <aka> A B C D E F U
[20:21] <Mrgoose> heh
[20:21] <Mrgoose> i got fired for a job for doin that once aka
[20:22] <Mrgoose> internship rather
[20:22] <Mrgoose> my boss was asking me the command to do something
[20:22] <aka> what?
[20:22] <Mrgoose> and i said press the F then U key
[20:23] <aka> wow
[20:23] <aka> smooth move
[20:23] <Mrgoose> heh
[20:23] <Mrgoose> not really
[20:23] <Mrgoose> he told me to leave
[20:23] <Tidus> How did my friend make the order of this go from higest to lowest? http://pas
[20:24] <aka> get a real pastebin asshole
[20:25] <Mrgoose> how does one find investors anyway
[20:25] <Mrgoose> i need about $10,000
[20:25] <loadstr> did you try a bank?
[20:25] <Mrgoose> im black
[20:25] <Mrgoose> and have poor credit
[20:25] <Mrgoose> they'd laugh me out of the place
[20:26] <loadstr> oh you poor poor black man
[20:28] <MattW> and what
[20:28] <MattW> you can't rap?
[20:28] <MattW> pssshhh
[20:28] <deleet> rofl shadda
[20:29] <deleet> ok, it's time for sleeeeeep
[20:29] <deleet> have a goodnight everyone´
[20:30] <P-O> if someone is able to bypass facebook autmated name checker, I can pay him 100$
[20:31] <feti> bnovc: i have a new image for you
[20:31] <feti> NSFW, NSFA, DSIDWY http://www.techbasic.net/idlewyse/21713.jpg
[20:32] <MattW> HOLY SHIT WHAT IS ALEX DOING TO STUTTER'S DOG
[20:34] <TPoise> NSFA?
[20:34] <TPoise> DSIDWY?
[20:35] <Mrgoose> so if i have an array how do i enter it into seperate fields. i guess a lo
[20:35] <Mrgoose> u dumb jerks
[20:35] <Mrgoose> oops
[20:35] <feti> TPoise: Not Safe For Anybody, Don't Say I Didn't Warn You
[20:37] <Cartossin> the first time i saw that, i thought he was really doin it, but at closer
[20:38] <dextor> ewww lmfao
[20:39] <dextor> excuse the pun, thats one sick puppy
[20:39] <Tidus> How did my friend make the order of this go from highest to lowest? http://pa
[20:40] <Shadda> Cartossin: What's more disturbing, that he'd make a picture insinuating that
[20:40] <Mrgoose> Tidus: $numbers = array_reverse($numbers);
[20:40] <Cartossin> Shadda: the first one
[20:40] <Cartossin> heh
[20:42] <dextor> lol shadda
[20:43] <c0m> DSIDWY ... = ?
[20:43] <c0m> nvm
[20:43] <c0m> i read above
[20:45] <dextor> :P
[20:48] <bnovc> feti: :\
[20:49] <bnovc> the only NSFW posts that should be allowed are of attractive women
[20:50] <dextor> agreed
[20:52] <ron_frown> cock and balls
[20:53] <Shadda> ron disagrees.
[20:53] <Shadda> I always suspected...
[20:53] <ron_frown> new vmware fusion much nicer
[20:53] <Shadda> ron_frown: how big is its resource footprint?
[20:53] <ron_frown> I dont know
[20:53] <ron_frown> feels MUCH snappier
[20:54] <ron_frown> liek clicking menus etc
[20:54] <ron_frown> respond in a much more reasonable time
[20:54] <zuez> new as in, something released within the last month?
[20:54] <zuez> re: vmware fusion
[20:54] <ron_frown> released today
[20:54] <ron_frown> vmware fusion 2.0 b2
[20:54] <ron_frown> it is a beat
[20:54] <ron_frown> beta
[20:55] <ron_frown> but I've been using beta 1 since it came out as my sole dev environment
[20:55] <Shadda> I tried but it was just too slow
[20:55] <Shadda> slowed everything else down
[20:55] <ron_frown> its still running an entire os
[20:55] <ron_frown> but its pretty slick
[20:57] <zuez> I'm personally running fusion 1.1.3
[20:57] <zuez> Wonder if I can move my images over to 2.0
[20:57] <ron_frown> yep
[20:57] <ron_frown> just copy it and open image
[20:57] <ron_frown> eg make a backup
[20:57] <ron_frown> works rather well unity is like 100x better with this build
[20:59] <AJ[FP]> Shadda are you the one going around the sydphp forums replying to job offers
[20:59] <Shadda> lol what?
[20:59] <aka> hahaha
[20:59] <aka> CAUGHT RED HANDED!
[20:59] <ron_frown> shadda are you aussie
[21:00] <ron_frown> I thought you were mexican
[21:00] <Shadda> no
[21:00] <AJ[FP]> Someone is trolling job offers.. with comments like "bahahahaha pay peanuts,
[21:00] <AJ[FP]> etc.
[21:00] <Shadda> mexican heh
[21:00] <Shadda> american
[21:00] <AJ[FP]> Pretty funny :P
[21:00] <aka> he is native american / eskimo
[21:00] <AJ[FP]> its whoever owns phpro i think
[21:00] <Akeem> aka: Heh, I like the search engine queries your uploads get me :-P
[21:00] <AJ[FP]> they linked to it from their profile
[21:02] <aka> Akeem: what this time?
[21:02] <aka> ;D
[21:02] <Akeem> aka: Cunnilinguists or something like that
[21:02] <AJ[FP]> oh wait, Shai-Tan maybe
[21:02] <AJ[FP]> one of you owned phpro
[21:03] <AJ[FP]> its been a while since i was in here... ah well, whoever you are, your funny
[21:03] <aka> haha ah.. they are a good ass rap group from Kentuky
[21:05] <aka> yeah Shai-Tan is aussie and owns phpro
[21:05] <AJ[FP]> ah ok its him then lol
[21:06] <AJ[FP]> i spotted the link to his homepage on his profile, before he took it off
[21:07] <AJ[FP]> Kevin Waterson
[21:14] <Shadda> So, webgrind is pretty sweet
[21:14] <Shadda> all the goodiness of kcachegrind without the overhead and KDE dependency
[21:34] <Mr_Grim> what about a consultant pro website?
[21:34] <Mr_Grim> let the consultant choose the platform
[21:35] <Mr_Grim> work out usability, architecture and any other business strategies
[21:35] <Mr_Grim> a much higher level
[21:37] <reuben3> !rules
[21:37] <reuben3> Why doesn't the HTML entity get decoded in this example? http://pastebin.os
[21:45] <reuben3> odd, I need to specify the character set too when I use ENT_NOQUOTES
[21:45] * reuben3 shrugs
[21:48] * _pdq is now known as pdq
[21:51] <wrkaholic> hey what editor do you all program with on linux?
[21:51] <wrkaholic> im using ubuntu
[21:52] <aka> I use KDevelop
[21:52] <aka> but I know a lot of people use PDT
[21:59] <Mr_Grim> aka do you do other web development?
[21:59] <Mr_Grim> i mean
[21:59] <Mr_Grim> do you do other kinds of software development other then PHP with KDevelop?
[22:00] <many> vi is all u need
[22:00] <Mr_Grim> pffttttt
[22:00] <Mr_Grim> yeah right
[22:01] <Mr_Grim> i use eclipse
[22:01] <many> <3 vi
[22:01] <many> eclipse nice for java
[22:01] <Mr_Grim> try the PHP plugin for it
[22:01] <Mr_Grim> debugging isnt actualy shity if you get it working
[22:01] <many> i use zend studio for php stuff
[22:01] <AJ[FP]> I use eclipse at work... it's not bad.
[22:02] <Mr_Grim> i used zend studio a few times in 2005
[22:02] <Mr_Grim> the help is probably better then eclipse
[22:02] <Mr_Grim> but eclipse is damn good
[22:02] <Mr_Grim> damn good
[22:02] <many> yeh
[22:02] <Mr_Grim> you just need to spend some time getting debug to work
[22:03] <Mr_Grim> that stuff should work flawlessly with zend
[22:03] <Mr_Grim> does zend debugger stop your code on warnings?
[22:03] <many> yeh u gotta set up ur php server to do it
[22:03] <many> naw i never used it to debug other then printf / echo statements
[22:04] <many> to lazy to install the zend debugger lol
[22:04] <Mr_Grim> i cant live without debugger
[22:04] <TCTanner> wow! this irc thing works! it has been a loong time since i have been on
[22:04] <Mr_Grim> does it help you do things like class refactoring?
[22:04] <many> well php isnt that bad to dev in something like C / C++ i need debuggers
[22:05] <many> naw it got like a built in doc thing
[22:05] <many> when you type it auto completes too
[22:05] <TCTanner> my hosting company is having problems helping me. mail() takes forever wh
[22:06] <aka> fuck man Authorize.net doesn't have somethig in their API for me to check subsc
[22:06] <Mr_Grim> TCTanner aer you talking about sending mail?
[22:07] <Mr_Grim> aka they cut you off?
[22:07] <TCTanner> yes i am talking about sending mail, but no it isn't cutting me off. it i
[22:07] <TCTanner> i'll post the tiny script i have on paste bin to show you waht i mean
[22:08] <TCTanner> http://pastebin.com/m26afa2f7
[22:08] <many> TCTanner can you ssh into the machine and run a traceroute to your email host
[22:08] <many> could be a network problem rather then php
[22:09] <TCTanner> test@mydomain.com is my email address i have hosted with them. what is in
[22:09] <TCTanner> i can do a tracert from my computer to it, if that helps or will that not
[22:09] <many> no
[22:10] <TCTanner> no i guess it wouldn't because it only is not working with my domain's hos
[22:10] <Mr_Grim> TCTanner are you in a shared hosting environment or a dedicated environment
[22:10] <TCTanner> it worked fine yesterday, but not today or over the wekeend
[22:10] <TCTanner> it is shared
[22:10] <TCTanner> and it just started happening
[22:11] <Mr_Grim> and you cant send email to anyone?
[22:11] <Mr_Grim> or just certain domains?
[22:11] <TCTanner> i can send email just fine ... but when i run that script it takes about 2
[22:11] <many> script running slow?
[22:11] <TCTanner> which is ok, but when i run my invoicing system ... it fails because that
[22:12] <TCTanner> the script runs slow, but only when my email address is in the to: field
[22:12] <many> and thats all u have on that script?
[22:12] <Mr_Grim> TCTanner you can get around that by setting the php script time out really
[22:12] <TCTanner> yup thats it
[22:13] <TCTanner> i would do that, but the problem is that for instance a client using oscom
[22:13] <TCTanner> sometimes it fails sometimes it doesn't, but either way, it should be ligh
[22:13] <many> yeh it should
[22:13] <Mr_Grim> sounds like a config issue
[22:13] <Mr_Grim> it cant resolve the normal domain name back to the server
[22:13] <supertard> hello
[22:13] <Mr_Grim> taht could be a network issue
[22:13] <Mr_Grim> call your hosting provider
[22:14] <Mr_Grim> they must have made a config change
[22:14] <TCTanner> i did ... they seem to be busy with other things :(
[22:14] <TCTanner> they said it is possible that i had a wrong spf or something
[22:14] <Mr_Grim> time to get a new host
[22:14] <TCTanner> which i have no idea what that is, or how it happened
[22:14] <supertard> any chance i can get a result like table1.field1, table1.field2, table2.f
[22:14] <aka> Authorize.net just sends emails... rather than allow me to do check subscriptio
[22:14] <aka> YAY!
[22:14] <TCTanner> becuase i dind't touch anything
[22:14] <Mr_Grim> i host all my clients on my own machines
[22:14] <Mr_Grim> i charge way too much but its a reliable service
[22:14] <supertard> i mean using mysql
[22:15] <Mr_Grim> i control everything and have a part time admin guy doing everything so i g
[22:15] <TCTanner> they have been a good company except for this. it would be a nightmare to
[22:15] <many> Mr_Grim you got a colo?
[22:15] <Mr_Grim> many yeah its a colo
[22:15] <supertard> what i want is that when i call mysql_fetch_assoc, somehow it gives me 't
[22:15] <Mr_Grim> i got 5 dell 1U;s
[22:15] <many> nice a got a 1u rack too self built
[22:16] <Mr_Grim> 14U mini cabinet
[22:16] <many> damn
[22:16] <many> you must got a lot of clients
[22:16] <Mr_Grim> not alot
[22:16] <Mr_Grim> just 5 big ones
[22:16] <TCTanner> so is there a way fro me to check on this spf thingy?
[22:16] <TCTanner> *for
[22:16] <Mr_Grim> i got win2k3 and linux
[22:16] <Mr_Grim> and a sonicwall hw firewall
[22:17] <many> eh im running slackware on mines
[22:17] <Mr_Grim> i got centos 5.2 on 2 machines
[22:17] <many> TCTanner prolly some network issue
[22:17] <Mr_Grim> FC3 on my first machine i did
[22:17] <Mr_Grim> FC3 was a bad choice but that damn firewall keeps the assholes out
[22:19] <many> my first distro was redhat wasnt painfull enuff to switched to slackware then
[22:19] <many> so -> to
[22:19] <Mr_Grim> im not learning anymore distros
[22:19] <many> there all the same
[22:19] <Mr_Grim> well yeah
[22:19] <Mr_Grim> i compiled alot of stuff from scratch
[22:19] <Mr_Grim> the web stuff only
[22:19] <many> just way they handle packages and stuff
[22:20] <many> yeh gentoo you compile evrything
[22:20] <Mr_Grim> the distros appear to be more consistent over time
[22:20] <Mr_Grim> for a while it was out of control
[22:20] <aka> It's all about Debian distros
[22:21] <aka> I am moving from CentOS
[22:21] <Mr_Grim> i got a part time sys admin guy that helps me out now
[22:21] <Mr_Grim> did my firewall config, a few client cisco firewalls for me
[22:21] <Mr_Grim> setup my SVN box
[22:21] <sprouty> anyone know of any good hosting company to recommend?
[22:21] <Mr_Grim> i need to goto more golf tournaments and schmooze
[22:21] <many> sprouty shared?
[22:22] <sprouty> i was thinking hostmonster or inmotion but i hear they oversell
[22:22] <sprouty> either way
[22:22] <Mr_Grim> you guys ever goto those?
[22:22] <Mr_Grim> one of my leasing companies has an annual one
[22:22] <many> sprouty bluehost pretty good
[22:22] <many> for shared hosting
[22:22] <Mr_Grim> every damn vendor almost has one
[22:22] <sprouty> i think hostmonster is the same company as bluehost
[22:22] <Mr_Grim> nobody here plays golf?
[22:23] <many> i want to get into golf one day
[22:23] <Mr_Grim> its better then the office
[22:23] <Mr_Grim> keeps you in good discipline and focused
[22:23] <many> just none close enuff to me
[22:24] <Mr_Grim> many what city you near?
[22:24] <many> i play basketball every weekend though
[22:24] <Mr_Grim> there are tons of courses within a 40min drive of me
[22:24] <many> i live in manhatten
[22:24] <Mr_Grim> ohhh shit
[22:24] <many> and i dont have a car lol
[22:24] <Mr_Grim> you dont need a car
[22:24] <Mr_Grim> that 3K rent is enough
[22:24] <many> naw i want one
[22:25] <many> i cant afford the parking though
[22:25] <Mr_Grim> actually can i ask...
[22:25] <Mr_Grim> what do you pay in rent there?
[22:25] <Mr_Grim> or did you buy?
[22:25] <many> your not that far off
[22:25] <Mr_Grim> toronto is half the price
[22:25] <many> i live in a trendy spot so i pay more than i would if i live else where in man
[22:25] <ron_frown> manhattan
[22:25] <Mr_Grim> upper west, soho?
[22:26] <many> near soho im west village
[22:26] <Mr_Grim> oh shit thats pricey
[22:26] <many> thats north of soho
[22:26] <[piker]> manhatten, im envious of your salary many
[22:26] <Mr_Grim> many you do other stuff then just php right?
[22:26] <many> eh they pay you more but cost of living so much more
[22:26] <ron_frown> meh you make bigger money in bigger cities
[22:27] <[piker]> i know.. it works its self out
[22:27] <ron_frown> if I wanted to work in the city here Ive had some pretty big offers
[22:27] <many> Mr_Grim naw i work for a investment firm during the day
[22:27] <Mr_Grim> cool
[22:27] <Mr_Grim> im learning how to do options trading
[22:27] <Mr_Grim> i want to get into that
[22:27] <Mr_Grim> i got a simulater going
[22:27] <many> thats all gambling
[22:27] <many> you win or you lose
[22:27] <Mr_Grim> calculated gambling
[22:28] <many> yep
[22:28] <many> stocks you dont lose everything
[22:28] <many> but you dont win a lot too
[22:28] <Mr_Grim> but options allows you to hedge
[22:28] <Mr_Grim> and make money if the market goes down
[22:28] <Mr_Grim> i feel safer buying puts then shorting
[22:28] <many> my friend moved from ny making less then me but he can afford to buy a big hou
[22:29] <many> so we prolly making less in the end then someone from arizona
[22:29] <Mr_Grim> many i get alot of education from this guy
[22:29] <Mr_Grim> philstockworld.com
[22:29] <Mr_Grim> i subsribed
[22:29] <Mr_Grim> that site is really good
[22:29] <Mr_Grim> great insight to options so you dont get killed on em
[22:29] <many> how much you pay?
[22:30] <Mr_Grim> 100 a month
[22:30] <Mr_Grim> i have the basic membership and the swing trade portfolio
[22:30] <ron_frown> man I found living in the bay is pretty close to where I was from that wa
[22:31] <many> you made any money fromt hat site?
[22:31] <Mr_Grim> yeah
[22:31] <Mr_Grim> just on the stuff im comfortable with
[22:32] <Mr_Grim> i practice alot of stuff with my virtual portfolio
[22:32] <Mr_Grim> my best pick was 85 dollar calls in xom yesturday
[22:32] <Mr_Grim> im up huge toda
[22:33] <many> <3 XOm
[22:34] <Mr_Grim> it was a 52 week low after the oil sell off
[22:34] <Mr_Grim> and the stock was at 90 way before this 100 dollar a barrel oil crap
[22:34] <Mr_Grim> no brainer
[22:34] <many> i had that stock for 2 yrs now
[22:34] <ron_frown> if you fuckers are oil commodity traders you deserve to die
[22:34] <ron_frown> I'm sorry
[22:35] <ron_frown> waste of space on the planet
[22:35] <ron_frown> yes their is money to made
[22:35] <Mr_Grim> we dont make the rules pal
[22:35] <many> lol you should join
[22:35] <Mr_Grim> blame your lobyists
[22:35] <ron_frown> people bitch about oil prices when they dont realize dumshit commodity tr
[22:35] <many> naw thats a myth
[22:35] <ron_frown> no its not =)
[22:35] <Mr_Grim> no its not
[22:35] <Mr_Grim> its a scam
[22:35] <ron_frown> oil is at a bigtime low
[22:36] <Mr_Grim> after the banks got bailed out they pumped too much liquidity into commodot
[22:36] <many> i read the ny times paul krugman stays its a myth!
[22:36] <many> well in bad times like this the markets go to commoditys to invest in
[22:36] <many> nutting else to do with that money
[22:37] <wrkaholic> ug how the hell do you make irssi scroll
[22:37] <Mr_Grim> but that only happen cause the fed keeps baling everyone out
[22:37] <wrkaholic> oh nm
[22:37] <Mr_Grim> the USA is a socialist capitalist country
[22:37] <Mr_Grim> let the freakin morons fail
[22:37] <many> like i said before here republicans believe in socialism for the rich and free
[22:38] <many> or socialised risk and free trade profit
[22:38] <Mr_Grim> its not true capitalism when you keep increasing the money supply to bail o
[22:38] <Mr_Grim> thats a good way of putting it
[22:38] <Mr_Grim> socialism protection for the rich
[22:38] <Mr_Grim> bad bad bad
[22:38] <many> you couldve let bear sterns fail
[22:39] <Lann> hahaha glad i dont own a house
[22:39] <many> but you wouldve put in danger the overnight lending markets
[22:39] <many> lol if you own a house in manhatten you would be happy
[22:39] <Lann> all my homeowner friends are all hurting while i happily buy toys
[22:39] <wrkaholic> not sure if anyone answered but what's a good ide for php on linux?
[22:39] <many> theres still a housing bubble in nyc
[22:39] <Mr_Grim> there is a condo bubble in toronto
[22:39] <many> wrkaholic vim
[22:40] <Mr_Grim> anyway
[22:40] <many> i herd eclipse is good
[22:40] <Mr_Grim> im going to bed
[22:40] <wrkaholic> isn't that console
[22:40] <Mr_Grim> eclipse is good
[22:40] <Mr_Grim> really good
[22:40] <many> nite
[22:40] <Mr_Grim> ge the php plugin for it
[22:40] <many> gvim isnt console
[22:40] <Mr_Grim> gnight
[22:40] <many> lol
[22:41] <Lann> im actually considering a liveaboard boat in the bay out here over a house
[22:41] <many> eh boathouse?
[22:41] <many> thats diffrent
[22:42] <Lann> yah
[22:42] <Lann> houses here start at 400k for complete ghetto
[22:42] <many> just rent
[22:42] <Lann> boat...20 miles from work, 75k
[22:42] <many> renting not that bad
[22:43] <Lann> besides i might as well do something heh
[22:43] <Lann> since because of my tax bracket i pay like 2k/mo in taxes
[22:45] <sort> renting is a waste of money
[22:45] <many> yeh it is
[22:47] <Lann> heh im evil..."lann's charter company", all boat costs are now deductible as a
[22:47] <many> lol irs will get ur if they decide to audit
[22:48] <Lann> why
[22:48] <Lann> irs deems any venture started with the intent to make money as a business
[22:48] <Lann> even $1
[22:48] <Lann> you get audited, they say, if you take a loss more than 3 years
[22:48] <Lann> just be audit transparent
[22:49] <many> aiight im out gnite
[23:01] * spooky_ is now known as spooky
[23:05] <Smong> is include 'file.txt'; about the same as eval(file_get_contents('file.txt'));
[23:11] <niko> hi, can anyone help please with this http://wiredlab.eu/blah.txt
[23:18] <gencha> well
[23:18] <gencha> $link is the result of a boolean expression
[23:19] <gencha> drop the die part :P
[23:19] <gencha> or add a ( before $link
[23:20] <gencha> there's an excess closing paranthesis anyhow
[23:23] <niko> gencha, i fixed it replacing || with or after mysql_connect, works now ,thanks
[23:25] <Shadda> aaaarghhh
[23:25] <Shadda> So at about 9pm tonight, conversions went fucking *nuts*
[23:25] <Nylad> Hello everyone. I'm looking to put a really simple chat program on my website
[23:25] <Shadda> had this huge vertical spike, almost a 90 degree angle
[23:25] <Shadda> figured something had broke, bad
[23:26] <Shadda> turns out
[23:26] <Shadda> some dumbass advertiser
[23:26] <Shadda> stuck his tracking pixel on his landing page
[23:26] <Shadda> so every time he got traffic
[23:26] <Shadda> it counted as a conversion
[23:26] <Shadda> and he paid out the ass
[23:26] <Shadda> and we sent him like 5,000 clicks in 3 hours
[23:27] <agett> !rules
[23:28] <striker> hi!
[23:28] <striker> dasf
[23:30] <public|mo> :)
[23:30] * public|mo is now known as morozov
[23:31] <morozov> hello
[23:31] <agett> hall
[23:31] <morozov> agett russian miso
[23:31] <morozov> meat ;)
[23:32] <agett> as you! ^)
[23:34] <morozov> where anarki?
[23:34] <agett> telnet don't work
[23:34] <morozov> òóò ÿâíî äèáèëû ñèäÿò
[23:34] <morozov> ìîë÷àò :)
[23:34] <agett> ãûã :)
[23:35] <agett> ìîýåò ñïÿò åùå?
[23:35] <morozov> ÿ áû òóò îñòàëñÿ
[23:35] <morozov> òóò íåò ðåëî :)
[23:36] <Anarki> !rules
[23:36] <agett> çàõâàòûâàåì êàíàë? :)
[23:37] <morozov> ñòðèêåð :)
[23:37] <striker> hello! this is a russian peoples on this channel?
[23:37] <agett> ñëóøàé, à îò ïàäëèêà ÿ ðóññêèå âìæó
[23:37] <agett> âèæó
[23:37] <morozov> striker no
[23:37] * Shadda points to the english only sign
[23:38] * Shadda changes topic to '!rules :: www.php.net/manual :: Need 1 more: www.pgregg.com/vps/
[23:38] <morozov> ok :)
[23:39] <agett> ok
[23:39] <agett> ya ne mogu ponyat'- tut vse spyat?
[23:39] <agett> :)
[23:40] <striker> nu
[23:41] <morozov> talk on english please
[23:41] <agett> what is nu?
Session Close: Thu Jul 31 00:00:00 2008
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