Session Start: Wed Jan 09 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #html
[00:58] <SauceofBo> HTML is n00bish ...aren't we born with such knowledge?
[00:59] <techrush> yes
[00:59] <Cyranix0r> you would think so
[00:59] <Cyranix0r> which is why its so frusterating that microsoft can't produce a standards
[01:00] <techrush> they can they just choose not too
[01:00] <techrush> for various reasons
[01:00] <Cyranix0r> because they think they're the reincarnation of the 3rd reich?
[01:00] <techrush> something to that extent
[02:54] <||vibez||> i am looking for ebay account with ZERO feedback BUT registered after Jan
[04:51] * ize is now known as Ize
[05:17] * Ize is now known as ize
[06:06] <zhos> what is a good application for html editing?
[06:16] <A_Guy> notepad ++
[07:10] <relax``> what is the correct way to get all of this to display on the same line, bla
[07:10] <relax``> instead of the break in the line where the img displays
[07:13] <rhelic> use the CSS tag display: inline;
[07:15] <relax``> hmm interesting thanks
[07:16] <relax``> not so good at this html/css stuff
[07:23] <rhelic> relax``: well <form> and </form> throw in a newline, so you'd wa
[07:51] * [mawst] is now known as mawst
[08:25] <B|ade> http://www.chami.com/tips/internet/010597I.html
[08:25] <B|ade> about email forms that only works if people have email clients installed
[08:26] <B|ade> is there any other way
[08:26] <B|ade> like if you can just send the message through the site
[08:26] <B|ade> does that require another script or what?
[08:30] <Kenoshi> yeah you'll need a script otherwise
[08:30] <Kenoshi> this form example is just a fancy mailto: link, really
[08:30] <B|ade> it doesnt work that good tho
[08:30] <B|ade> i tried it and a message pops up for ur name and all
[08:31] <B|ade> i want it to just send it when u click on the send button
[08:31] <Kenoshi> yeah, I wouldn't suggest this method, personally
[08:31] <Kenoshi> to do that, you'll need a script
[08:31] <B|ade> is it a big script?
[08:31] <Kenoshi> most servers support cgi or php
[08:31] <Kenoshi> and examples on the web should be easy to find
[08:31] <B|ade> i used one a couple of days ago but couldnt get it to work
[08:32] <Kenoshi> what language?
[08:32] <Kenoshi> if you're having probs with a php email script, someone in #php will certai
[08:32] <B|ade> http://formtoemail.com/
[08:32] <B|ade> i downloaded that
[08:32] <B|ade> oh
[08:32] <B|ade> its a single php
[08:33] <B|ade> but theres no description on the site
[08:33] <B|ade> hm
[08:33] <Kenoshi> http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_mail.asp
[08:33] <Kenoshi> simplest example ... get that working as-is, then customize as necessary
[08:33] <Kenoshi> ensure your server supports php too
[08:34] <B|ade> yeah it should
[08:35] <B|ade> hm
[08:35] <B|ade> so i need to make 1 html where the form is
[08:35] <B|ade> and 1 php file for the code
[08:36] <Kenoshi> you can embed php in your markup (i.e. html) file using <?php and ?>
[08:36] <Kenoshi> though your markup file will need a .php suffix
[08:36] <Kenoshi> not a .html suffix
[08:37] <Kenoshi> note that the example on that page has the <html> and <body> ta
[08:37] <B|ade> yeah
[08:37] <Kenoshi> you can replace those with properly formatted header tags, like doctype and
[08:37] <Kenoshi> start with a really simple example first, to test it
[08:37] <Kenoshi> then build the form into your existing page
[08:38] <B|ade> yep
[08:38] <B|ade> im making the form atm
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[12:04] <DapOrp2> isn't there a way to make a link that'll just activate a browser's back fun
[12:05] <v9> javascript:history.back();
[12:06] <DapOrp2> ah, that's what i needed. javascript:
[12:06] <DapOrp2> thanks. :)
[12:08] <v9> hey, i do what i can :)
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[14:58] <Jagg1> Okay, so I WAS trying to get some content to be centered in the page.. then h
[15:02] <Jagg1> like, if you had a <td> <td width=500><img></td> <
[15:02] <Jagg1> pardon me: <table width="100%">
[15:03] <Jagg1> such that the center image stayed centered (along with the rest of the page c
[15:03] <Jagg1> basically to have one large image which stayed centered on a page, even if th
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[16:25] <Ox40> I have a page, all is good, it doesnt need to scroll, everything fits. But if
[17:05] <Falcon1-> Heya
[17:08] <Falcon1-> anyone home?
[17:10] <porfus3> yup
[17:20] <Quemeqal> aye
[18:19] <Okee> Web exact is giving me an error message and indicates that I have a broken an
[18:19] <Okee> Can anyone find this anchor on the following page? http://webtech.tstc.edu/st
[18:19] <phatso> Is there some way in adwords where I can get an idea of how much keywords co
[18:21] <Okee> Why do you use a reverse lookup tool?
[18:21] <Okee> Meant to say why don't use use a reverse lookup tool?
[18:21] <TBF> heh
[18:21] <TBF> phatso, you can also disable your campaign and also input test units.
[18:21] <Okee> I recommend that use the reverse tool with discretion because they are not alw
[18:21] <TBF> A value will then be shown for it, but the campaign won't be live.
[18:22] <TBF> Nod
[18:22] <phatso> TBF I just wanna check to see if some keywords are good to "get into" as in
[18:22] <TBF> Google offers a query service as Okee noted.
[18:23] <TBF> The price you pay per click is not just based on term, but also a quality score
[18:24] <TBF> I've done some tests and it suggests they use a freshly spawned IE6 session upo
[18:24] <TBF> You can use this behaviour to manipulate your quality score in a greyhat fashio
[18:28] <phatso> Ok what I wanted to do was search for keywords such as "acne medication" and
[18:28] <phatso> If that makes any sense
[18:28] <TBF> Mmm ...
[18:28] <TBF> You want to do AdSense arbitrage?
[18:28] <phatso> Dunno what that is
[18:29] <phatso> yeah sorta
[18:29] <TBF> You wish to form an AdSense laden site which you promote via AdWords.
[18:29] <phatso> like where you buy adwords and sell adsense, using your "made for adsense" s
[18:29] <TBF> You feel that you can get high AdSense click values but low AdWords costs.
[18:29] <TBF> Causing profit.
[18:29] <phatso> right
[18:29] <TBF> If so, this method is nor longer viable and has been stamped down by Google.
[18:29] <phatso> although I would probably use adbrite and other marketing tools instead of a
[18:29] <phatso> hrmmmm
[18:30] <phatso> well I dont necessarily HAVE to use adwords
[18:30] <TBF> Ok
[18:30] <phatso> I can pay people to shove my site in directories...send mass mails out...use
[18:31] <phatso> I mean after all..google pays the highest so its reasonable to assume that i
[18:32] <TBF> Nod
[18:32] <TBF> You'll be interested in https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordSandbox then
[18:33] <TBF> http://tools.seobook.com/keyword-tools/seobook/ is also helpful in quickly form
[18:34] <TBF> You may also find #SEO helpful, but take advice from there with a grain of salt
[18:34] <TBF> Majority of users there are unable to fathom how HTTP works.
[18:34] <phatso> hmm do you know of any sites, blogs or forums where a n00b can get a crash c
[18:34] <phatso> ahah yeah I am idling in #SEO too
[18:34] <TBF> There's no central resource, nor is there a way to "learn it all". You have to
[18:35] <phatso> so in other words I should just start getting my hands dirty..dive right in
[18:35] <TBF> oatmeal maintains SEOMoz which may give you the foundations of SEO.
[18:37] <phatso> Oh I heard of that site...had a few domains "page strengthed" from there usi
[18:37] <TBF> www.seomoz.org
[18:37] <TBF> Yep
[18:38] <TBF> I don't know what that means.
[18:39] <phatso> they have a tool there where you plug in a site and it checks alexa rank. PR
[18:40] <TBF> I see, and a machine can tell you this? Heh
[18:40] <phatso> the script there does
[18:41] <phatso> http://www.seomoz.org/page-strength
[18:41] <phatso> there, try it
[18:41] <TBF> SEO is all theory, there are no known solid information. It's unlikely a script
[18:41] <phatso> don't knock it before you try it...its SOMETHING at least
[18:42] <TBF> heh
[18:42] <TBF> Hard to praise something which can't even talk in HTTP/1.1
[18:43] <TBF> heh
[18:43] <TBF> It gave a value of 'Page Strength: 0.5 / 10' for a HTTPd which didn't talk back
[18:43] * TBF coughs up some blood
[18:43] <phatso> beta version I guess
[18:43] <phatso> Is oatmeal a user here?
[18:44] <TBF> S/he is on EFnet sometimes, yes
[18:45] * phatso checks P2P for all the SEOMOZ pdfs
[18:47] <phatso> Position at Google for first four words of title tag on target URL: <--
[18:47] <Nooster> i think there may be a market there
[18:50] <phatso> shit how the FUCK did I lose my directory listing in dmoz?
[18:50] <phatso> Oh...maybe cuz the site is down. Phew.
[18:58] <Matt`> would a dl be suitable for a FAQ?
[19:01] <TBF> It could, yes. I would personally opt for HX and <p>s.
[19:01] <TBF> A DDL is semantically suitable for a FAQ, but it may not be suitable for the ta
[19:10] <Matt`> TBF: Semantics are my main concern, how could dl not be suitable for the task
[19:16] <TBF> Due to what HTML elements one can use inside of dd child.
[19:16] <TBF> Or even the dt, depending on needs.
[19:18] * TBF wonders if he's just misassumed block level issue
[19:19] <TBF> If you can nest block level HTML elements, such as <p>, then DDLs would b
[19:29] <phatso> If my directory listing was removed from dmoz...what can I do?
[20:23] <Matt`> I want to use a DL for a FAQ, only prob is the DTs need to be numbered, is th
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[23:06] <phetox1> hey anyone up?
[23:06] <phetox1> i have a form application i just made that gathers demographic data like na
[23:06] <phetox1> i need some teaching on submit buttons
[23:23] <notamod> hey
[23:23] <notamod> dopctypessss
[23:23] <notamod> i got a doctype header that is screwin up ma page
[23:24] <notamod> what exactly does doctype change
[23:24] <notamod> cus i cant chnge the doctype
[23:24] <notamod> so im gonna try an conform
[23:25] <notamod> ne ideas
[23:59] * sdfasd is now known as cmhm
Session Close: Thu Jan 10 00:00:00 2008
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