Session Start: Thu Dec 27 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #html
[01:24] <Raemon> Hi, how can I add newlines in <textarea>'s ?
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[03:09] <wh01s> any ops around ?
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[09:02] <Wooden> Hi
[09:04] <kilomang> hi
[09:21] <Wooden> could anyone please paste a url page which contains a javascript banner ?
[10:13] <p0iNt> .j mac
[10:15] <TBF> NEVER
[10:15] <TBF> .j win32
[10:29] <smashe> Hello, what is html syntax to forward url
[10:31] <TBF> You should use a HTTP 301 or 302 header and then pair it up with a HTML META re
[10:45] <smashe> i dont know any html but i knew you could do it in html or php
[10:45] <smashe> could u paste what i should put in index.html
[10:48] <smashe> hrm wtf i redirect it through hosting forward
[10:48] <smashe> and when it loads it loads header in browser but no side
[10:48] <smashe> site
[10:59] <rhelik> do you mean you can see the header?
[10:59] <rhelik> as text
[11:09] <smashe> well
[11:09] <smashe> www.bankcardsolutions.net
[11:09] <smashe> > www.merchantservicesbcs.com
[11:09] <smashe> ./dns banck...
[11:09] <smashe> points to merchan...
[11:09] <smashe> but it wont load
[11:10] <smashe> i only changed dns for www.bankcardsolutions.net
[11:10] <rhelik> I don't have time to analuze your headers
[11:10] <smashe> maybe that is the problem..
[11:11] <smashe> np
[11:11] <rhelik> when did you change it? you do realize DNS can take hours/days to propigate
[11:11] <smashe> days ago
[11:11] <TBF> Mmm?
[11:11] <smashe> week ago
[11:11] <smashe> the dns change has already been made
[11:11] <rhelik> hmm, well you could do a meta refresh for now while you troubleshoot
[11:11] <TBF> www.bankcardsolutions.net/ presents who HTTP Location: headers and is simply a
[11:12] <smashe> i c
[11:12] <TBF> www.merchantservicesbcs.com/ points to its base domain, merchantservicesbcs.com
[11:12] <TBF> Both are currently sharing the same IP.
[11:12] <TBF> [38.113.20.14]
[11:13] <smashe> yah i pointed the dns of www.bankcardsolutions.net to 38.113.20.14
[11:14] <smashe> thinking it would just load .com index
[11:14] <TBF> Mmm?
[11:15] <TBF> I suspect you have a misunderstanding between what an A record does and CNAME d
[11:15] <TBF> presents who => presents no
[11:16] <TBF> No idea how I typoed that one up x)
[11:16] <smashe> yeah i changed the cname
[11:20] <v9> you set this up in apache vhosts
[11:20] <TBF> He's using IIS.
[11:20] <TBF> Heh
[11:20] <v9> probably something in there for that ... i guess, burn IIS
[11:21] <TBF> I'll get the village folk, you prepare the pitchforks and the fire.
[11:21] <smashe> its not my box
[11:21] <smashe> im not in controll of it
[11:21] <v9> could be real lame and do: <body onload="if(document.domain=='somedomain.net'
[11:22] * rhelik is now known as rhelic
[11:23] <v9> actually, probably wouldnt want to wait for it to load
[11:23] <v9> and ugly all-else-fails method
[11:27] <TBF> Not quite sure why one would opt for the JS versus HTML?
[11:28] <TBF> Feels excessive when you can coerce a redirect via HTTP headers and then in the
[11:28] <smashe> so whats the best way to do this
[11:28] <v9> how are you determining what the domain currently is in html?
[11:28] <v9> not possible
[11:28] <v9> they both are pointing to the same place yes?
[11:29] <smashe> i just deleted those records
[11:29] * TBF looks at smashe
[11:29] <smashe> and have already updated..
[11:29] <v9> or just gonna meta refresh them to the final location
[11:29] <v9> guess that works too
[11:29] <v9> apache/iis configing is better, doesnt your admin do anything? :/
[11:30] <smashe> i dont admin merchantservicesbcs.com
[11:30] <smashe> i have full access to bankcardsolutions.net
[11:30] <v9> are there a bunch of sites hosted on merchantservicesbcs.com?
[11:30] <v9> or is it just yours?
[11:30] <smashe> just mine
[11:31] <v9> hrm
[11:31] <v9> alright
[11:31] <v9> what is the final result you want, and where is all the stuff hosted?
[11:32] <v9> both of them on the same box that merchantservicesbcs.com is?
[11:38] <smashe> no
[11:38] <smashe> bankcardsolutions.net is on networksolutions.com pointed to godaddy ns, wher
[11:39] <smashe> i have dns management abilites on godaddy gui, i use the domain for email ho
[11:40] <v9> Domain servers in listed order:
[11:40] <v9> NS27.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.190.14
[11:40] <v9> NS28.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.189.14
[11:40] <v9> those are godaddy's nameservers?
[11:40] <smashe> i simply forwarded bcshq.net to bankcardsolutions.net
[11:40] <smashe> no
[11:40] <smashe> um
[11:41] <smashe> ns5.secureserver.net
[11:41] <smashe> ns6.secureserver.net
[11:41] <v9> yeah, something like that
[11:41] <v9> bankcardsolutions.net nameservers = what i pasted
[11:42] <smashe> ah fuck i changed networksolutions.net settings and it changed the dns
[11:42] <TBF> Time to consider commercial help :p
[11:43] <smashe> everyone is gone
[11:43] <smashe> that i kn ow
[11:43] <smashe> im in prc of setting up a ns here
[11:43] <smashe> i called isp to get auth pointed to it but now admin is gone
[11:44] <v9> so the web content of bankcardsolutions.net, which is on the same box as the .co
[11:44] <smashe> the .net is not on the same box as the .com
[11:44] <v9> oh
[11:45] <v9> whats the working link for the content now?
[11:45] <v9> of the .net
[11:45] <smashe> www.merchantservicesbcs.com
[11:45] <smashe> thats the content i want
[11:45] <smashe> to pull up from www.bankcardsolutions.net
[11:45] <v9> same content for both then, yeah?
[11:45] <smashe> true
[11:46] <v9> eh just do the redirect thing
[11:46] <smashe> a host record?
[11:46] <v9> does godaddy give you dns controls for domains not registered with godaddy?
[11:46] <smashe> yes
[11:46] <smashe> im looking at it right now
[11:46] <smashe> A host cnames mx ect..
[11:46] <v9> didnt know that, interesting
[11:47] <smashe> txt , srv, and ipv6
[11:48] <smashe> i had a cnames record for www.bankcardsolutions.net points to www.merchantse
[11:48] <smashe> and it wouldnt load
[11:48] <v9> godaddy has some web redirect dealio in their stuff
[11:48] <smashe> yeah only for hosts owned by godaddy
[11:49] <smashe> i have bcshq.net owned by godaddy
[11:49] <v9> changing dns entries will not work for this
[11:49] <smashe> and it easily lets me forward www.bcshq.net > www.bankcardsolutions.net
[11:49] <v9> you can not redirect this to your .com based on the dns controls on godaddy
[11:49] <smashe> i will probably have to move the domain
[11:50] <v9> need a middle-man in your case
[11:50] <smashe> hrm i bet i can change it on networksolutions.com
[11:50] <smashe> and point mx records on networksolutions.com back to godaddy
[11:50] <v9> if your webservers config was set up to allow the ip (http://38.113.20.14/) to w
[11:51] <v9> but it is not
[11:52] <smashe> u mean the box 38.113.20.14 is on?
[11:52] <smashe> webserver
[11:52] <smashe> ?
[11:52] <v9> you are fucked without a man-in-the-middle redirect or telling the admin to add
[11:53] <smashe> so i need to tell the admin of merchantservicesbcs.com to add bankcardsoluti
[11:53] <v9> i was saying if http://38.113.20.14/ worked it wouldnt be a problem doing it via
[11:54] <smashe> ohi see
[11:54] <smashe> it doesnt work fuck i see what your saying
[11:55] <v9> :/
[11:55] <smashe> yeah i wanted the ip to work so it would possible still stay in header as ba
[11:56] <smashe> assholes wont give me the source for site
[11:56] <v9> well, it would still show that if they configured the site to allow the .net hos
[11:57] <v9> both involve them
[11:58] <smashe> hrm i dont think the admin of that site is available either
[11:58] <smashe> foo's probably going to be stubborn about that aswell
[11:59] <smashe> ok so whats a meta string i can put in bankcardsolutions.net index.html unti
[12:02] <v9> <html><head><meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="0;url=http://some
[12:05] <smashe> hrm guess that will hve to do for now
[12:06] <smashe> would they have to change all there href to ip aswell?
[12:07] <v9> no
[12:07] <v9> ip thing was just an answer for a dns solution if it was set up like that
[12:07] <v9> which is nice if it's the only site on the box
[12:07] <v9> anytime i get a new domain i'm not using i just change the A record to my main s
[12:07] <smashe> oh yeah its probably not the only site on that ip
[12:08] <v9> then they will just add the host to their config
[12:08] <v9> which is normal
[12:08] <smashe> the bankcardsolutions.net host
[12:08] <v9> yeah
[12:08] <smashe> and ill just point a record to them?
[12:08] <v9> yeah, youll point it to that same ip
[12:09] <smashe> got it
[12:09] <v9> but right now their IIS just doesnt know what to do with the domain
[12:09] <v9> cause it isnt set up to host it
[12:09] <smashe> gotcha
[12:09] <smashe> would they add www.bankcardsolutions.net or just bankcardsolutions.net
[12:11] <smashe> iis= windows web server?
[12:11] <v9> yeah
[12:11] <smashe> blah
[12:11] <v9> both
[12:11] <v9> usually
[12:11] <TBF> It seems like you are unable to grasp how HTTP works
[12:12] <TBF> You are magically under the impression IIS is using IP based hosting when that'
[12:12] <TBF> This requires configuration on the server itself, not DNS, because of how a Web
[12:13] <TBF> I recommend you either wait for the administrator or consider commercial help
[12:13] <TBF> Or just learn.
[12:13] <v9> nah, i said that
[12:13] <v9> <TBF> You are magically under the impression IIS is using IP based hosting
[12:13] <v9> when that's a rare thing due to costs. The server needs to be
[12:13] <v9> configured to detect your preferred seperate sites.
[12:14] <TBF> S/he has mentioned they have no access to the server itself (IIS in this case).
[12:14] <TBF> They won't be able to progress cleanly until that's true.
[12:14] <v9> he said it was the only site on the server, so i was seeing it as a potential fi
[12:14] <v9> yeah but i got him on that kick anyways
[12:15] <TBF> S/he doesn't administrator that machine. 38.113.20.14 doesn't just host those t
[12:15] <v9> yeah, said that later
[12:15] <TBF> I gotta stop and read the chat buffer :)
[12:16] <v9> the point is he's fucked until the admin comes heh
[12:16] <v9> semi-fucked anyways, without a lame solution
[12:17] <TBF> There's no solution available to them, heh.
[12:17] <TBF> Unless he controls the default site on IIS.
[12:19] <v9> which shown by that http://ip not working he doesnt :)
[12:19] <v9> could have it point to an ip he controls then redirect it...bout it, and infinte
[12:19] <v9> i have a feeling he doesnt have an ip like this...except maybe his home box
[12:20] <TBF> Yep, s/he could use FreeDNS or a similar service though.
[12:20] <TBF> They'll take care of that and offer a META redirect or some redirection method.
[12:20] <v9> probably the best bet in this situation for him
[12:23] <v9> hrm
[12:23] <v9> is there any other common link methods other than A/AREA?
[12:23] <v9> as far as href=""'s
[12:24] <TBF> You mean what other HTML elements take an href attribute?
[12:24] <TBF> If so, there's a sneaky one called <link>
[12:25] <v9> hrm yeah
[12:26] <v9> if i was making a web crawler, any other 'normal' human links that would be good
[13:37] <ActiveOpt> how would i get an image on my page like this.. http://img156.imageshack.
[13:37] <ActiveOpt> webpage
[13:38] <TBF> You are referring to the icon at the top?
[13:38] <ActiveOpt> yea
[13:38] <TBF> If so, that is called a favicon
[13:38] <ActiveOpt> thanks
[13:38] <TBF> Ok
[13:38] <ActiveOpt> so how do i get a favicon on their
[13:38] <TBF> v9, complex question. Got any more specifics?
[13:38] <TBF> ActiveOpt, it's by default in the base root as 'favicon.ico' but can be redefin
[13:39] <ActiveOpt> ok
[13:39] <TBF> http://www.example.com/favicon.ico
[13:39] <ActiveOpt> i get what ya mean sorta
[13:39] <TBF> In your case, TorrentFreaks has redefined it in their HTML document:
[13:39] <TBF> <link rel="Shortcut Icon" type="image/ico" href="http://torrentfreak.com/wp-
[13:39] <ActiveOpt> oh
[13:40] <ActiveOpt> thnak you for your time
[13:40] <TBF> That's okay.
[13:40] <ActiveOpt> thank*
[13:40] <TBF> Query Google for additional help, there should be a favicon generator site you
[13:40] <ActiveOpt> ok
[13:43] <ActiveOpt> time to make my logo or w.e
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[17:21] <phiz> http://aislian.org/tiling.gif
[18:02] <el_taco> say I have 3 selects month day year to be sec 508 compliant would i need la
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[18:28] <ActiveOpt> whats that tag for quotes?
[18:28] <ActiveOpt> in html
[18:31] <v9> "
[18:31] <v9> ?
[18:38] <ActiveOpt> thx
[22:00] <Kirk2> Hello
[22:01] <Kirk2> Not getting any attention in #javascript, so I thought I'd ask here... maybe
[22:53] <ad0le> I just found a nasty bug in ie7
[22:53] <ad0le> if you set the background: url(/blah/blah.png) property of a fieldset, it wil
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Session Close: Fri Dec 28 00:00:00 2007
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