Log for #html on 2007-01-24


Session Start: Wed Jan 24 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #html
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[00:00] * Topic is '#html: No Dreamweaver, Myspace, or Ebay help. Didn't write it? Ask the author.'
[00:00] * Set by quisling!blah@c-68-39-6-126.hsd1.nj.comcast.net on Tue Jan 23 12:39:01
[02:35] <FamicWrk> anyone can tell me how to have a textfield in a form with hidden content
[02:45] <m0sphere> type=hidden or something
[03:19] <t1[> anyone up?
[03:24] <Zuu> yeh
[03:24] <Zuu> Just ask ;)
[04:55] <jcb_> hey, can someone tell me how i can arrange some text in the middle of a vertic
[05:01] <diabolic> Yeh I told you when you asked
[05:57] <Martin^> when i do simple tests with & in url's they correctly convert it too ju
[05:57] <Martin^> ideas?
[06:33] <Martin^> doesnt xhtml strict allow <form> ?
[06:45] * haleyss` is now known as haleyss
[06:46] <trsfntns> i have a 2 <divs> inside of a <td>, but for some reason they a
[06:47] <trsfntns> i guess i can try valign=top
[06:50] <Arrakis> youy have to
[07:11] * Martin^ just finished cleaning up a site that had 300 errors on w3c xhtml validator :O
[07:21] <Arrakis> Nerd++
[07:21] <Arrakis> You are now a level W3C Nerd
[07:21] <Arrakis> You are now a level 3 W3C Nerd
[07:55] * keisi-ji is now known as DesignGir
[07:56] * DesignGir is now known as Dsign`gal
[08:09] <dG_> lo
[09:09] <DaveJ|UK> hehmeh
[09:44] <Arrakis> man #help is filled with so many people who can't help themselves
[10:04] <Teratogen> Arrakis -- Dune -- Desert Planet
[10:08] <Arrakis> hi
[10:50] <PAB`> lost souls
[10:56] <Arrakis> souls of doom
[11:11] * _draco is now known as Ko-Awp
[11:16] * Ko-Awp is now known as ircsucks
[11:24] * ircsucks is now known as Ko-Awp
[11:27] * Ko-Awp is now known as DickSlaps
[11:28] <PaulSPC> off topic printing question.. when printing business cards, how do i tell
[11:31] <Arrakis> I'm not sure if photoshop is even capable of doing that
[11:31] <Arrakis> heh
[11:33] <spank> make your canvas the page size you're printing and tile them yourself
[11:35] <Lannister> is there a way to make multiple <br>s that wont condense to 1 in IE
[11:36] <phiz> Lannister: huh??
[11:45] <spank> Arrakis: we need a new gay channel to create. kfed didn't work as well as i'd
[11:46] <Arrakis> yeah
[11:46] <Arrakis> i can't believe it
[11:46] <Arrakis> irc has gotten so soft
[11:48] <spank> <sp4nk> i want to choke the recording industry asshole who thought hind
[11:48] <spank> <sp4nk> tired of hearing their shitfuck songs on every station
[11:48] <spank> lets make a hinder channel
[11:48] <WiPHPm> how can i make an image a submit button ?
[11:49] <spank> or even better, nickelback
[11:53] <Arrakis> lol
[11:53] <Arrakis> WiPHPm, <input type="image" src="myimage.jpg" />
[12:09] <PAB`> hmm
[12:27] <cytraL> i have a <form> that submits in firefox but not ie, anyone know what i
[12:37] <Arrakis> cytraL, did you validate the page?
[12:38] <Arrakis> how complex is the page? lots of javascript upon form validation? etc
[12:38] <cytraL> i did validate it
[12:38] <cytraL> it says something about the doctype
[12:38] <Arrakis> did it validate ?
[12:38] <cytraL> no
[12:38] <Arrakis> how complex is it?
[12:38] <cytraL> not very
[12:38] <cytraL> you wanna see the url?
[12:38] <Arrakis> sure
[12:38] <cytraL> http://margauxhome.com/bridalRegistry.php?action=bridalRegistry
[12:39] <cytraL> on the bottom it says find bride
[12:39] <cytraL> it works if you put the wrong username in
[12:39] <cytraL> but if you put a right one in like bilbo it only works in ff
[12:39] <Arrakis> works fine for me
[12:39] <cytraL> in ie?
[12:39] <Arrakis> yep
[12:39] <cytraL> im using 6.0
[12:40] <cytraL> you using 7.0?
[12:41] * DickSlaps is now known as Co-Op2
[12:41] <Arrakis> are you clicking?
[12:41] <Arrakis> or hitting enter?
[12:41] <cytraL> uhmm
[12:41] <cytraL> enter
[12:41] <Arrakis> okay
[12:41] <Arrakis> that's why
[12:41] <Arrakis> in your textbox
[12:41] <cytraL> holy crap
[12:41] <Arrakis> you will want to put something like
[12:42] <Arrakis> onkeydown="if ((event.keyCode) && (event.keyCode==13)) { document.forms[0].
[12:42] <Arrakis> i think that should take care of it
[12:55] <cytraL> i put that in a <script> tag at top and it doesnt work
[12:55] <cytraL> <script type="text/javascript">
[12:58] <cytraL> you mean put it in the <input> tag?
[13:24] <cytraL> the problem is there is 2 <form>'s on the page and it defaults to the
[13:42] <cytraL> arrakis?
[13:49] * Co-Op2 is now known as draco1111
[14:10] <Stinky-D> quick question about html tables
[14:11] <Stinky-D> is there a way to force a break up contiguous strings?
[14:11] <Stinky-D> so a really wide piece of text in a table can be printed out
[14:11] <Stinky-D> hello btw :0
[14:23] <webben> Stinky-D, nothing works cross browser except " "
[14:23] <webben> Stinky-D, in IE, you might look into SHY (soft hyphens)
[14:24] <webben> unfortunately, Mozilla haven't got around to implementing SHY support.
[14:24] <webben> IIRC Opera supports SHY. Not at all sure about Webkit.
[14:24] <Stinky-D> hmmm
[14:24] <Stinky-D> somebody else suggested something like this
[14:25] <Stinky-D> <TD STYLE="word-wrap:break-word;width:150px;">
[14:25] <webben> Stinky-D, hmm ... sounds like a CSS3 property
[14:26] <webben> it's not in http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/propidx.html
[14:26] <webben> Stinky-D, it's probably not widely implemented
[14:26] <webben> if implemented at all
[14:26] <webben> (CSS3 isn't finished yet.)
[14:26] <webben> here it is: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-text/#word-wrap
[14:27] <Stinky-D> ya
[14:27] <Stinky-D> isn't working
[14:27] <Stinky-D> doh
[14:27] <webben> Stinky-D, maybe work out a different way of presenting the same information
[14:28] <Stinky-D> for the most part I don't have control over what goes in the cell
[14:28] <webben> either totally recast the page, work out some radically different print css,
[14:28] <Stinky-D> I'm just formatting data
[14:28] <Stinky-D> that word-wrap works in ie7
[14:28] <webben> really? good on IE7 I guess
[14:29] <webben> be warned its spec may yet change
[14:29] <Stinky-D> ya
[14:29] <webben> since it's only a working draft
[14:29] <Stinky-D> is there not a way to force a table width?
[14:29] <webben> Stinky-D, yes... you set a width on the table IIRC
[14:30] <webben> table {width: 60em} or whatever
[14:31] <Stinky-D> just <table width=80> doesn't seem to affect that one row
[14:31] <Stinky-D> wow I didn't think this would be a problem
[14:33] <ihate> im tring to submit a url to google.com my question is when i submit the domai
[14:33] <ihate> or will i have to submit them individualy
[14:33] <Stinky-D> if there are links to them
[14:33] <Stinky-D> it will "spider" the site
[14:34] <ihate> so it will add everything?
[14:34] <Stinky-D> as long as you have links
[14:34] <ihate> do you links on www.test.com
[14:34] <Stinky-D> ?
[14:34] <ihate> [14:34] <Stinky-D> as long as you have links
[14:35] <ihate> what type of links
[14:35] <ihate> to what?
[14:35] <Stinky-D> if you have links to your sub pages on your main page
[14:35] <Stinky-D> google will follow all links in your main page and try to index them
[14:35] <ihate> oh ok..
[14:35] <Stinky-D> it can't magically find files on your server
[14:36] <ihate> yea thats the problem im having
[14:36] <ihate> but what if i dont want to add the links to my main domain?
[14:37] <ihate> how can i make it so www.test.com is just a blank page with no links and have
[14:37] <ihate> is that possible?
[14:38] <Stinky-D> not really
[14:38] <ihate> let me find an example
[14:38] <Stinky-D> k
[14:38] <ihate> ok
[14:38] <ihate> so this site..http://daily-information.com/
[14:39] <ihate> now if you go to the site.. theres nothing on it
[14:39] <ihate> now if you go to yahoo and search http://daily-information.com/
[14:39] <ihate> it comes up with many pages that are on that server with that main domain
[14:39] <Stinky-D> it says under construction
[14:39] <Stinky-D> there might have been something there in the past
[14:40] <Stinky-D> or other websites have links to their internal pages
[14:40] <ihate> yeah but it has no links
[14:40] <Stinky-D> not now
[14:40] <Stinky-D> but it might have had links
[14:40] <Stinky-D> like I said...google can't magically find stuff
[14:40] <ihate> oh, so thoes links can be removed once the sites are indexed?
[14:40] <Stinky-D> a link has to be somewhere
[14:41] <ihate> what if i was to submit each site to google like this www.test.com/whatever
[14:41] <Stinky-D> how about the top level of your sub pages
[14:41] <Stinky-D> ya
[14:41] <Stinky-D> just submit those
[14:41] <ihate> would that still work? or will google reject that or something?
[14:41] <Stinky-D> no that should work
[14:41] <Stinky-D> plus if anyone else on the net links to any of your pages
[14:41] <ihate> yeah i guess ill just do that
[14:41] <Stinky-D> you will get indexed whether you want to or not :)
[14:42] <ihate> ok. do you know how long it might take a site to show after its been submitte
[14:42] <Stinky-D> no idea
[14:42] <Stinky-D> these days probably pretty fast
[14:44] <ihate> alright
[15:10] * Shortm976 is now known as Shortman
[15:12] <Fonzie> How to make an "hidden" table? so u can see whats inside it, but not the fra
[15:13] <Fonzie> trying to make a table with an iframe
[15:13] <Fonzie> Like this:
[15:13] <Fonzie> <table width="419" border="0" id="Table_02">
[15:13] <Fonzie> <tr>
[15:13] <Fonzie> <td width="413" height="60"><iframe name="iframe1" width="1
[15:13] <Fonzie> </tr>
[15:13] <Fonzie>
[15:13] <Fonzie> </table>
[15:13] <Fonzie> But how to "hide" it?
[15:23] <webben> Fonzie, Sounds like you want to not misuse a table for layout. Then you woul
[15:23] <webben> why not just use the iframe? what does the table do anyhow?
[15:34] * Zuu is now known as zuu
[19:31] <InfoH> what code is a 'space'
[19:38] <Arrakis>   is a non-breaking space
[20:42] <hyp3rk1d> hey
[20:42] <hyp3rk1d> can some1 help me with html quickly
[20:42] <hyp3rk1d> i have a question i cant figure out
[20:46] <sheer> i'm new
[20:46] <hyp3rk1d> me 2.
[20:46] <hyp3rk1d> its a simple question
[20:46] <hyp3rk1d> do u know ne html
[20:46] <sheer> ok
[20:46] <sheer> what?
[20:46] <sheer> sure
[20:46] <sheer> some
[20:46] <hyp3rk1d> i uploaded a jpg
[20:46] <Arrakis> wtf
[20:46] <Arrakis> only
[20:46] <Arrakis> i
[20:46] <Arrakis> am
[20:46] <Arrakis> allowed
[20:46] <Arrakis> to
[20:46] <Arrakis> type
[20:46] <Arrakis> like
[20:46] <Arrakis> this
[20:46] <hyp3rk1d> i want to put text on top of it
[20:46] <hyp3rk1d> but i dont know how
[20:47] <sheer> heh
[20:47] <Arrakis> <b>Some text</b><br /><img src="myuploadedimage.jpg" t
[20:47] <Arrakis> put that in ur EH TEE EMM ELL file
[20:48] <hyp3rk1d> trying
[20:48] <hyp3rk1d> thanks
[20:50] <hyp3rk1d> border_01.jpg
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> i tried
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> it wouldnt work
[20:51] <Arrakis> lol
[20:51] <Arrakis> i would sugest trying a tad harder
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> i no i mean
[20:51] <Arrakis> cause i've given more complex thigns to 8 year olds
[20:51] <Arrakis> and had them succeed
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> no i mean
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> i put that code in
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> used my image
[20:51] <hyp3rk1d> the text wont appear
[20:52] <Arrakis> you typed bleah.html ?
[20:52] <Arrakis> you have to upload your html file and view it
[20:52] <hyp3rk1d> alright ill try that
[20:52] * Arrakis blinks
[20:57] <hyp3rk1d> hmm
[20:57] <hyp3rk1d> it still places it on top
[20:57] <hyp3rk1d> with a box with an x through it
[20:57] <hyp3rk1d> but the image appears below
[21:03] <hyp3rk1d> ?
[21:18] <Fonzie> anyone awake? :)
[21:33] <Arrakis> no
[21:34] <sheer> with fonts and stuff, how do you have it display text when your mouse is over
[21:36] <Arrakis> put a title in the tag?
[21:36] <Arrakis> i dont know what tags that allowkrs on - siunce usually it's used for image
[21:38] <sheer> a title in the font?
[21:39] * b`ki is now known as boki
[22:00] <SS66> Eh, does anyone know of any free SIMPLE (lite gui) easy to use picture galleri
[22:04] <SS66> Nevermind.. got it.. thanks for all the help asshats
[22:29] <meteors> hi all
[22:29] <meteors> How many files does it take to be saved in a subdirectory before access beg
[22:43] * sornman_ is now known as sornman
Session Close: Thu Jan 25 00:00:00 2007