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Session Start: Tue Jan 23 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #html
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[00:02] * Topic is '[07:23] <Lisa17> does anyone know what is the best wizard to use to pimp
[00:02] * Set by Arrakis!googled@71.90.170.108 on Thu Jan 18 06:34:54
[00:13] * barbell_ is now known as barbell
[00:57] <Icchan^> i'm sorry to trouble you with this, but what's the matter with this:
[00:57] <Icchan^> <a href="/"> Frontpage </a>
[00:57] <Icchan^> the validator is saying something about contexts
[03:27] <KayJ> hi
[03:27] <KayJ> how do i use css to style tables?
[03:27] <KayJ> im a complete noob to css
[03:27] <KayJ> i want the edges to be round
[03:27] <KayJ> im using dreamweaver8
[03:30] <KOm4> you have to use images
[03:31] <KOm4> css dosn't support round edges
[03:31] <KayJ> aha
[03:31] <KayJ> so, its even simpler to do that
[03:31] <KOm4> yes
[03:31] <KOm4> you have to use shapes
[03:32] <KOm4> cut the round edge with a gfx programm
[03:32] <KOm4> like photoshop or fireworks
[03:32] <Trancer> what kom says
[03:32] <KayJ> do i have to make 2 tables? one in the other_?
[03:32] <Trancer> with CSS3 you can do rounded edges btw.. but only a small part of the world
[03:33] <Trancer> why not just make a <div> with abackground
[03:33] <Trancer> and a table on top of it?
[03:33] <KayJ> wont that slow my site down?
[03:33] <KayJ> i mean a big background image
[03:46] <Jpegtobbe> hello
[03:46] <Jpegtobbe> Anyone got IE7 and can check if my hover-thingy works? http://213.65.194.
[03:57] <dG_> Jpegtobbe, the border is there
[03:57] <dG_> but it changes the size of the element
[03:58] <Jpegtobbe> dG_: oh? strange.. does the padding get larger on hover?
[03:58] <dG_> yup
[03:58] <dG_> margin-top: 4px;
[03:58] <dG_> it's this
[03:59] <Jpegtobbe> dG_: oh yes.. i noticed that before.. i solved that one.. but in ie6 it d
[04:00] <Jpegtobbe> i just got this thingy from a person in #css http://dev.ac-creations.com/
[04:01] <dG_> ehhehe
[04:01] <dG_> but, that's strange, not working in ie6
[04:01] <dG_> everything looks ok
[04:02] <Jpegtobbe> dG_: well.. ie6 is a bastard :D
[04:02] <dG_> try: a img#a-pic:hover {
[04:02] <Jpegtobbe> dG_: ill have to get back later.. got a meeting with a client now.. hav
[04:03] <dG_> k, cyas
[04:39] <WiPHPm> when i have a <td><p align="center"></td> do i have to clo
[05:32] <theooo> Hi
[05:33] <theooo> Does anyone have a quick hack for PNG support in MSIE?
[05:33] <theooo> Sex in return if it works.
[05:33] <theooo> ;p
[05:34] <Icchan^> but why would you want png to IE? :/
[05:34] <Fuzzy76> dxfilter always works
[05:34] <theooo> Simply cause 80% of the internetzerz use MSIE
[05:34] <Icchan^> if it wont' support it: don't you do either ;)
[05:34] <Fuzzy76> just google "ie png hack"
[05:34] <theooo> silly
[05:34] <theooo> ehmmm
[05:34] <theooo> I think Icchan^ is dumb.
[05:34] <theooo> Thanks Fuzz I'll google it up
[05:35] <Icchan^> is the ie 7 png compatible allready? :P
[05:35] <theooo> I dont know, and don't really care since not many users use 7 yet
[05:35] <Fuzzy76> as long as the png is saved without a color correction profile (which photo
[05:36] <Icchan^> i think ms is fool wih they way to think about ie and they shouldn't be get
[05:36] <Icchan^> like... all other browsers know png... why ie won't? :D
[05:38] <Fuzzy76> because ie is 6 years old. The other browsers didn't support png 6 years ag
[05:38] <Fuzzy76> atleast the rendering engine in ie6 is. It wasn't touched since ie5.5
[05:39] <Icchan^> and ms should be on top of software industry... yea right :D
[05:39] <Fuzzy76> sure... os-wise, they are.
[05:40] <Fuzzy76> They decided to stop develop IE further because of all the whiners that com
[05:40] <Fuzzy76> didn't ;)
[05:40] <Icchan^> because ie is default rowser of windows. it shuld at least be up to date
[05:42] <Fuzzy76> I guess it was microsofts way of demonstrating the absurdity of the interne
[05:42] <Fuzzy76> Don't get me wrong, I hate IE myself... And can't wait for the day IE6 is l
[05:42] <Fuzzy76> And use Firefox personally :)
[05:43] <theooo> I agree MSIE7 is also utterly shit.
[05:43] <Icchan^> from my windows... explorer.exe and ie.explorer has been removed
[05:43] <theooo> However FF bothers me sometimes
[05:43] <Icchan^> completely :D
[05:43] <theooo> bullshit
[05:43] <theooo> explorer.exe is NOT deleted
[05:43] <theooo> if so, you do not run windows
[05:44] * CNU_ is now known as CNU
[05:44] <theooo> anyway, It somehow FF uses 100% CPU resources and a billion terabyte of memo
[05:44] <theooo> Is there somehow a fix for that?
[05:44] <Icchan^> but it is not essential part of windows
[05:44] <theooo> It is
[05:44] <Fuzzy76> Icchan^: In that case, I don't see how you can develop webpages. I run Linu
[05:44] <theooo> explorer.exe is
[05:45] <Icchan^> Fuzzy76, the process has been killed over a year ago.. and last runned 1 ye
[05:45] <Fuzzy76> writing html without testing it in ie is like making a car and not testing
[05:47] <Fuzzy76> theooo: I've seen the Flash plugin do that from time to time. An ad-filter
[05:47] <Icchan^> and windows don't use explorer.exe for fileoperations or anything like that
[05:47] <Icchan^> it only contains GUI for it and such :P
[05:47] <theooo> o.O
[05:47] <theooo> You sound like a wannabe to me
[05:48] <Icchan^> O.o
[05:48] <Icchan^> how come?
[05:48] <theooo> Where are you from Icchan^?
[05:48] <theooo> Oh right, Finland.
[05:49] <Icchan^> what does that have to do enything?
[05:49] <Fuzzy76> that's just stupid. windows without explorer is feasible, but useless. You
[05:49] <Icchan^> *anything
[05:49] <Icchan^> *with
[05:49] <Icchan^> Fuzzy76, none
[05:49] <theooo> Exactly Fuzzy76
[05:49] <Icchan^> ive used this comp over a year without it :D
[05:49] <Icchan^> and no need for "functions" of it :D
[05:49] <theooo> Ok, i'm getting a little irritated.
[05:50] <Icchan^> i can allways use something like a43 for the file operations
[05:50] <Icchan^> and for the desktop, aston shell works out fine
[05:51] <Fuzzy76> Icchan^: So you don't need windows update?
[05:51] <theooo> his comp would've been hijacked way before if he didn't
[05:52] <Icchan^> Fuzzy76, i can allways update it with firefox using a plugin. upto date fir
[05:52] <Icchan^> and when explorer.exe is not running, the security problems of it won't aff
[05:53] <theooo> Why are you using Icons all the time?
[05:53] <theooo> It tells you you're talking gallons of shit.
[05:53] <theooo> Icons... 'emoticons'
[05:53] <Icchan^> we'll... it's my way of expressing myself.
[05:53] <theooo> Whatever mr. chan.
[05:54] <Arrakis> lol
[05:54] <Arrakis> ..0....
[05:54] <Icchan^> the reason you are angry?
[05:54] <Arrakis> does any of this have to do with HTML"?
[05:54] <Arrakis> CSS?
[05:54] <Arrakis> OR THE WEB?
[05:54] <Arrakis> cuz if not
[05:54] <Arrakis> we could like take this out back
[05:54] <Arrakis> and then we could have one big orgy
[05:54] <Arrakis> or something
[05:55] <theooo> Well we have to make our websites idiot-proof don't we
[05:55] <theooo> ?
[05:55] <Arrakis> if we had to make the websites idiot proof
[05:55] <Arrakis> only like 5-7 people would be making websites in this world
[05:55] <Icchan^> theooo, why would we do that?
[05:55] <Arrakis> lol
[05:55] <theooo> And you wouldn't be one of them? Or what are you trying to say i.i
[05:55] <Icchan^> i wouldn't do my website explorer compatible. just a valid for the standard
[05:56] <Icchan^> and it's ms fault for not to follow the standard
[05:56] <Icchan^> not the users or mine
[05:56] <theooo> rofl
[05:56] <theooo> You're pretty silly Icchan^
[05:57] <Arrakis> whoa |ch
[05:57] <Arrakis> your english is really bad
[05:57] <Arrakis> anyways the world uses IE
[05:57] <Arrakis> market penetration is about 97% in most markets that make money
[05:57] <theooo> Exactly, that's what I've been saying.
[05:57] <Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater to mozilla
[05:57] <Arrakis> but if you are making money you have to cater to those who have money
[05:57] <Arrakis> and let me tell you - they're not geeks who can't get laid using the latest
[05:58] <Arrakis> because the people doing that - are so cheap they can't even buy a decent o
[05:58] <Icchan^> Who said that I'm making any money? :D
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> 7:57] <@Arrakis> so if you're not making money - then you can cater t
[05:58] <Arrakis> THAT wOULD BE U THEN
[05:59] <Icchan^> This is getting very stupid... I mean, what's all the fuss?
[05:59] <theooo> Oh my crabcakes... This guy is annoying me.
[05:59] <Arrakis> lmao
[05:59] <Arrakis> hahahahahah
[05:59] <Arrakis> thats funny theo
[05:59] <Arrakis> hi free falling
[05:59] <theooo> I don't even remember why I came to this place.
[05:59] <Arrakis> cause you <3 me ?
[05:59] <theooo> Well i figured that out just now.
[06:00] <Arrakis> :p
[06:00] <Falling> hi
[06:00] <Arrakis> hello
[06:00] <Fuzzy76> I would never, ever hire anyone that disregarded 85% of our readers
[06:00] * theooo does some SURPRISEBUTTZECKZ on Arrakis B====D (__(__) Weeee
[06:00] <Arrakis> so apparently .textContent or innerText in mozilla
[06:00] <Falling> i used irc back in the 90's, and was reminiscing with a friend
[06:00] * Falling laughs
[06:00] <Arrakis> doeesn't maintain carriage returns unless there's a whitespace after it
[06:00] <Icchan^> theooo, did you come to get help and give help about html and webdesign? Or
[06:01] <Arrakis> lol
[06:01] <theooo> I came here to get help, help and disagree with a user named Icchan^ .. o.O
[06:01] <Arrakis> heh
[06:02] <theooo> Anyway, that pnghack i found is a little annoying. I have to set height and
[06:02] <Fuzzy76> sure
[06:02] <Fuzzy76> do like Icchan^ :p
[06:03] <theooo> Rofl yeah, "Deezine paytches foar firefoax ownlee, mi so horni"
[06:03] <Icchan^> theooo, Well, from my part you can disagree all you want. But it won't affe
[06:03] <Arrakis> then don't worry about it
[06:03] <Arrakis> lol
[06:05] <Icchan^> I'm not doing this because I could make neat website and publish it on net.
[06:05] <theooo> I'm not even that deeply into webdesign. There are a dozen other things I'm
[06:06] <Icchan^> I think I have meade my goals clear enough? :P
[06:06] <Icchan^> *made
[06:06] <quisling> have you?
[06:06] <theooo> No he's lying quisling
[06:06] <quisling> I figured as much.
[06:09] <Fuzzy76> Icchan^: So you want to make a page that will look like crap for 80-90% of
[06:09] <quisling> Icchan^, what are you trying to do?
[06:10] <Icchan^> I wan't to learn valid XHTML/CSS for a purpose of my own. That's all.
[06:10] <quisling> sooo, why are you here?
[06:10] <StudioKid> anyone know any free hosts that accept PHP. I only need it to upload a de
[06:10] <Icchan^> No need to take any browser pecific stuff into account.
[06:10] <quisling> StudioKid, no. pay $5 and get a real host.
[06:10] <theooo> you can get hosts for $1 a month
[06:10] <Fuzzy76> Icchan^: You can make valid code that looks good in IE. :) All my code does
[06:11] <Icchan^> Fuzzy76, then if I stick to the standard I don't need to worry don't I?
[06:11] <Fuzzy76> that's not true
[06:11] <Fuzzy76> there are parts of the standard that some browsers doesn't support
[06:12] <Fuzzy76> including.... *shocker* Firefox
[06:12] <StudioKid> I dont want to use it for a propa site, i already have hosting but not en
[06:12] <theooo> No browser shows html 100% correctly
[06:12] <Icchan^> and if it won't show upo righ in IE: i don't need to care. It's just for my
[06:12] <Icchan^> Only user: Me.
[06:12] <theooo> Or, any html standard.
[06:12] <theooo> Oh
[06:12] <quisling> StudioKid, like I said, pay $5 and get a host, then cancel the account. Th
[06:12] <quisling> Icchan^, so what do you want?
[06:13] <theooo> Or be 1337 like me and get 20GB+domain for free :p
[06:13] <Icchan^> When i need to publish something: ill get to know the quirks and stufff.. U
[06:13] <Icchan^> quisling, I have no question atm. just came here to ask when I need to. :P
[06:13] <quisling> Icchan^, uh, ok...
[06:13] <theooo> http://foshizzle.org/teaser/teaser.swf This is a schoolproject of mine, It's
[06:16] <StudioKid> pretty basic flash stuff. Whos that in the video? btw you need some bette
[06:16] <theooo> Yeah yeah the beginning isn't done by me ;P
[06:16] <quisling> StudioKid, maybe you should focus on getting a host.
[06:16] <StudioKid> ooh. The way the videos been put together is nice.
[06:17] <theooo> Mainly what I did was the vectoring the last 2 scenes and animating it.
[06:17] <StudioKid> if you look at the part were he walks out the door holding his fists high
[06:17] <theooo> Haha yeah ;P
[06:17] <StudioKid> looks nice tho, my school neva had anything like that
[06:19] <theooo> ;<
[06:19] <theooo> I'm in college dedicated to multimedia graphics
[06:21] <StudioKid> you do web design aswell?
[06:22] <emanuel__> hi i have a question. i cannot tell wich is the url of a web page. on thi
[06:22] <emanuel__> a page with data on www.gamebookers.com
[06:23] <emanuel__> it is a frameset but none of the frames is with the data
[06:23] <emanuel__> can anyone tell me wich is the url of the page with the data?
[06:23] <StudioKid> Heres my latest work, this is for some graffiti artists that want a site
[06:24] <StudioKid> it was done in HTML and CSS and a bit of php
[06:24] <StudioKid> in = with
[06:26] <theooo> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/653/demo4yh.jpg
[06:26] <emanuel__> theooo: can you help with a frameset ?
[06:26] <theooo> no i'm sorry
[06:26] <theooo> lol @ yahoobar
[06:26] <StudioKid> theoo how comeu posted my example again?
[06:26] <StudioKid> lol
[06:26] <theooo> yours wasn't clickable >:(
[06:27] <theooo> The design is nice!
[06:27] <StudioKid> its this daym bt internet, they install allsorts without me knowing, im g
[06:28] <theooo> Pherpas the spaces btween the header, 3 blocks and the 'february 2007..' bar
[06:28] <theooo> make them less thick
[06:28] <StudioKid> nice idea, ill give it a try.
[06:29] <theooo> Make them as thick as the little white space at the top
[06:29] <theooo> I think it'd look better
[06:30] <theooo> and perhaps centering the menu links, and begging the guy for another menuli
[06:30] <StudioKid> lol, they wont be there when hes got his hands on it, there demo links.
[06:31] <theooo> Ah right
[06:31] <StudioKid> im not in control o the content, he just drawn me up a bit of scribble an
[06:31] <StudioKid> lol
[06:31] <theooo> hehe, it looks nice imo
[06:33] <Martin^> when a script is fetched by <script src="something.js" type="text\javasc
[06:33] <Martin^> whats wrong?
[06:33] <Martin^> nm
[06:33] <theooo> ;p
[06:35] <Martin^> aaaah this is so weird
[06:35] <Martin^> nesting of <ul> should happen inside a <li> right?
[06:36] <theoo> gay
[06:37] <bogez> other way around martin
[06:37] <StudioKid> http://jamjef.freehostia.com/
[06:38] <StudioKid> there it is theo
[06:38] <StudioKid> i aint sorted it yet, just uploaded it to a free host
[06:38] <StudioKid> slight validation error, nothing serious
[06:39] <theoo> Yeah looks really cool! thing that bothers me is the thick space between the
[06:39] <theoo> imo should be as thick as the space between the beginning of the page (white
[06:40] <StudioKid> yeah your right. He actually requested that, but i dont know why, ill pho
[06:40] <theoo> Ahh alrighy
[06:40] <StudioKid> if not ill tell him i think its better if it wasa made smaller
[06:40] <theoo> yeah
[06:43] <StudioKid> arrrrr daymn, i just remembered a game i was adicted to when i last had t
[06:44] <StudioKid> runescape! i best stay away from that or ill get absolutly no work done a
[06:44] <theoo> runescape omfg
[06:44] <theoo> that game is garbage.
[06:46] <StudioKid> i agree but once you start you cant get off it.
[06:46] <theoo> Well I've been palying counter-strike for 8 years.
[06:46] <theoo> I sortoff stopped.
[06:46] <StudioKid> i aint played that
[06:47] <StudioKid> Here is another design i recently sold for $40, CSS obviously. Pretty sim
[06:47] <theoo> I'm waiting for a bunch of games to play.
[06:47] <theoo> Cool
[06:47] <theoo> Yeah, if you're lucky it's easy money from time to time :p
[06:48] <StudioKid> very easy. Ive been learning for years, only since 2006 have i started to
[06:48] <StudioKid> im also a graphic designer, my day job is web and graphics.
[06:48] <StudioKid> creative art i mean
[06:48] <StudioKid> daym typing skills.
[06:49] <theoo> ;D
[06:49] <theoo> I'm still at school
[06:49] <StudioKid> You do much web design yourself?
[06:49] <StudioKid> im 22
[06:49] <theoo> Not that much no.
[06:50] <theoo> www.foshizzle.org/test www.foshizzle.org/test/test are my 2 latest (I really
[06:51] <StudioKid> very nice. I like them both.
[06:51] <quisling> theoo, you're a girl?
[06:52] <theoo> haha no
[06:52] <quisling> gay?
[06:52] <theoo> that pink portfolio page is made for my ex
[06:52] <theoo> And she is a girl
[06:52] <quisling> oohhh...
[06:52] <theoo> And I didn't break up for another guy
[06:52] <StudioKid> dont mean ur gayif you design pink. Pink and blues look stunning on some
[06:52] <theoo> Yeah
[06:52] <theoo> Those photos are my work btw
[06:53] <quisling> StudioKid, for sure, but pink w/ hearts and a feminine font.
[06:53] <theoo> I just used the pics for fillup
[06:53] <StudioKid> lol.
[06:53] <theoo> ;P
[06:53] <theoo> I also like photography :\\
[06:53] <theoo> Many things I like, not enough time.
[06:54] <StudioKid> u use a digital camera?
[06:54] <theoo> yeah digital slr
[06:54] <StudioKid> i got a Nikon F60 SLR, great but its not digital, cant affor a digital ye
[06:54] <quisling> what kind?
[06:54] <theoo> Nikon D70
[06:54] <StudioKid> D70s are nice, thats what i want
[06:54] <quisling> I've got a Canon 10D
[06:55] <theoo> What pricerange quisling?
[06:55] <theoo> !google canon 10d
[06:55] <logiclrd> theoo: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos10d/
[06:55] <quisling> theoo, I got it from a friend who barely used it two years ago for $1600.
[06:55] <theoo> Ahh yeah
[06:55] <quisling> just got a new lens for it though which was $1200
[06:55] <theoo> Yeah it's all so expensive o.O
[06:55] <quisling> yeah... a lot cheaper than film cameras over all though.
[06:55] <theoo> true true
[06:56] <theoo> I got a 18-70 lens for my nikon
[06:56] <theoo> I still want a macro camera
[06:56] <theoo> err macro lens
[06:56] <StudioKid> costs me 6 uk pound to develop my films and i have to have em put onto di
[06:56] <quisling> yeah, the one I just got is a 28-70 F2.8
[06:56] <theoo> yeah it's a pain in the butt
[06:57] <StudioKid> And you cant see what you have shot, you have to hope you caught the righ
[06:57] <theoo> Yeah, that's a good thing about digital cameras
[06:57] <theoo> s
[06:57] <theoo> wtf did I type s for? o.O
[06:57] <StudioKid> lol
[06:58] <quisling> StudioKid, I had my own darkroom in highschool and college, so it was pret
[06:59] <theoo> I love the way you can so easily edit the pictures on a computer.
[06:59] <StudioKid> lol thats sweet then.
[07:01] <StudioKid> anyone know any artists like 'Jagged Edge' and stuff? Slow Jams, but not
[07:01] <StudioKid> sorry random question but im stuck HA HA
[07:02] <theoo> Neg sorry : " (
[07:02] <theoo> O
[07:02] <theoo> errr. I'm into hardcore ;|
[07:02] <theoo> playing: "Dr. Z-Vago - Biohazard Motherfucker" [192kbps][44kHz][Stereo]
[07:02] <theoo> 8-) Yeye ;<
[07:03] <StudioKid> looool! Im playing luther van dross, although im not into his stuff hard,
[07:03] <theoo> Ohh right, that's cool
[07:04] <StudioKid> theoo, u herd UK Garage before? unless your from the uk you prolly aint,
[07:04] <PaulSPC> off topic, but you guys are all techies...
[07:04] <theoo> Yeah ofcourse I have.
[07:04] <StudioKid> theoo, you know any names/tracks? just curious
[07:05] <PaulSPC> we have a plasma tv in the front of our business that needs to loop video 1
[07:05] <theoo> nope, I had to linsten to it when a buddy frmo the UK was here
[07:05] <quisling> PaulSPC, some of us are a little more diverse than that.
[07:05] <PaulSPC> 3 minute video looping.
[07:05] <quisling> PaulSPC, the TV died? or the DVD player?
[07:06] <StudioKid> get a new one, it shoult be guarenteed (spelling?)
[07:07] <quisling> 3 months should be under warranty.
[07:07] <StudioKid> quis thats what i ment, lol
[07:10] <PaulSPC> dvd player dies
[07:10] <PaulSPC> and we dont wanna get a new dvd player every 3 months you know:)
[07:10] <theoo> So does my internet :@
[07:11] <quisling> PaulSPC, so buy a new one. they shouldn't fail that quickly.
[07:12] <PaulSPC> quisling > so a dvd looping a 3 min video for 12hrs a day should last ho
[07:12] <theoo> get a barebone :p
[07:13] <quisling> MTBF for a Pioneer DVD V8000 is 50,000 hours
[07:13] <quisling> granted, it's $1000
[07:13] <PaulSPC> hell, for that amount of money we're better off just buying a computer to h
[07:14] <quisling> the DVD player should last 11 years w/ a 50000 MTBF
[07:14] <quisling> so buy a cheaper one.
[07:14] <PaulSPC> dvds wont even last 11 years
[07:14] <quisling> you can get good DVD players for a couple of hundred bucks.
[07:14] <quisling> PaulSPC, sure they will.
[07:14] <PaulSPC> well my question is is there a substitute for a dvd player
[07:14] <quisling> sure.
[07:14] <quisling> a DVR
[07:15] <quisling> but I don't where you'd find one to operate in repeat mode.
[07:15] <PaulSPC> ahhh
[07:17] <quisling> just be sure it's adequately ventilated. :)
[07:20] <PaulSPC> AH HA!!!
[07:20] <PaulSPC> the old one was sitting ontop of a monitor:)
[07:20] <quisling> yeah, not good.
[07:20] <quisling> monitors get very hot. :)
[07:24] <theoo> rofl
[07:27] * sp4nk is now known as spank
[07:34] <theoo> Doo dee doo
[07:34] <gauze> hi
[07:34] <theoo> Elo
[07:35] <gauze> is the state of dynamic fonts support a complete damn mess? I got some projec
[07:35] <gauze> as in we'll have to have 2-3 versions of any pages that use them.
[07:36] <quisling> dynamic font support?
[07:36] <gauze> yep.
[07:36] <quisling> what exactly is that?
[07:37] <quisling> what do you mean by "dynamic font support" ?
[07:38] <gauze> well the 2 schemes I have run across are TrueDoc which uses the PFR file form
[07:38] <gauze> and Microsoft's Microtype express
[07:38] <dG_> lo
[07:38] <gauze> which is IE only dealy
[07:39] <quisling> Are you talking about using fonts other than standard system fonts on a we
[07:39] <gauze> basically the browser has to load a file with fonts in it to render the page
[07:39] <quisling> ok.
[07:39] <gauze> without rendering all text as images on the server
[07:39] <quisling> and you have 2-3 pages where you're using non-standard fonts?
[07:40] <gauze> (whcih was our other option and isn't very practical)
[07:40] <gauze> no
[07:40] <quisling> ok, I misread.
[07:40] <quisling> so why are you using non-standard fonts?
[07:40] <gauze> my project is writing a semi-WYSIWYG photo editor using JS, DHTML, whatever
[07:40] <quisling> work project? or school project?
[07:41] <gauze> we have a certain set of fonts we support in house here, people might not hav
[07:41] <gauze> work
[07:41] <gauze> I am not a web devel by trade, we are a small company and they throw whatever
[07:42] <gauze> so basically we need to display these arbitrary fonts in people's browsers, s
[07:43] <quisling> are these people intending on building webpages with this photo editor? or
[07:44] <gauze> not for webpages, for printed items, mostly like a greeting card as the basic
[07:44] <quisling> ok, so, basically someone asked you to build a web-based version of Illust
[07:44] <gauze> they upload some photos we place them within some templates we provide then t
[07:44] <gauze> it's so they have a sorta live preview of what the item will look like
[07:44] <quisling> sounds rather complex.
[07:45] <quisling> I worked on a project like that for Hallmark years ago.
[07:45] <gauze> I know, sesp since I don't know too much about this stuff.
[07:45] <quisling> We ended up using SVG and rendering JPGs on the server-side using a image
[07:45] <gauze> I am a unix sys admin, but there is only so much of that to do around here ha
[07:46] <quisling> At this point you recommend they bring in a consultant to advise on the pr
[07:46] <quisling> you really need to render the text to images for it to work properly.
[07:46] <gauze> hah that isn't gonna happen unfortunately
[07:46] <gauze> I know I told him that
[07:47] <gauze> but he showed me some page that does basically what he wants (IE only of cour
[07:47] <gauze> so now I am suppose to figure it out for other browsers.
[07:47] <quisling> yeah, it doesn't work in other browsers very well.
[07:50] <gauze> he wants to WEB 2.0 our site or something (AJAX ugh)
[07:50] <quisling> hehheeh
[07:50] <quisling> so he has no clue.
[07:50] <quisling> are you on the east coast?
[07:51] <gauze> yes east coast
[07:54] <quisling> If you like, have your boss call me, I'll tell him he's clueless. :)
[07:55] <quisling> interesting though that the WEFT technique works in Firefox and IE
[07:56] <Casey_g> what is WEFT technique ?
[07:56] <gauze> o rly
[07:56] <gauze> not opera?
[07:56] <quisling> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft3/
[07:56] <quisling> didn't check opera.
[07:56] <Casey_g> embedded font ?
[07:57] <quisling> check opera now.
[07:57] <quisling> er checking
[07:57] <quisling> works in Opera too.
[08:02] <gauze> this is good into quis, safari is the only other statistically significant br
[08:12] <theoo> I hate putting thep ages in html
[08:21] <Ego72> Is there anyway to view an entire directorys content even if they have an ind
[08:22] <phiz> Ego72: no.
[08:22] <Ego72> np just curious
[08:28] <theoo> playing: "2007-01-11 23h03m49" [192kbps][44kHz][Stereo]
[08:28] <theoo> Hardcore to da bone
[08:28] <quisling> really, nobody cares what you're listening to.
[08:29] <theoo> I know
[08:30] <theoo> I don't care about my life either, but still I live.
[08:30] <theoo> Explain that plz.
[08:35] <tn_> In css there is a style: page-break-before: always Is there a way to do (keep
[08:59] <theoo> FOODLOL
[09:07] <d0vk3> I would like to get advise on a domain name tld?
[09:10] <quisling> you would?
[09:12] <quisling> do you have an actual question?
[09:37] <theoo> lol
[09:40] <theoo> http://foshizzle.org/hoi/presentatiemap.html check plz
[09:40] <theoo> optimal viewing pleasure @ 1280x1024 roflcakes
[09:44] <chrismr> what do most people use to create a home web site?
[09:45] <winmutt> hi
[09:45] <chrismr> hi
[09:45] <theoo> photoshop/dreamweaver/notepad
[09:45] <theoo> and various internet browsers to test ofcourse
[09:46] <chrismr> im trying to creat a header page using Dream weaver the has litttl | to sep
[09:46] <chrismr> such as CHRIS | Gwendlyn | Trevor
[09:47] <chrismr> how is that done with dreamweaver?
[09:47] <winmutt> i have a problemo i need help with... i need to send '<a href="test.com?
[09:49] <chrismr> im trying to creat a header page using Dream weaver the has litttl | to sep
[09:49] <chrismr> such as CHRIS | Gwendlyn | Trevor
[09:50] <chrismr> how is that done with dreamweaver?
[09:50] <quisling> chrismr, read the fucking manual.
[09:50] <quisling> this isn't #dreamweaverhelp
[09:50] <chrismr> i dont have a manual
[09:50] <quisling> so hit F1
[09:50] <chrismr> and u dont have to get upset
[09:50] <chrismr> bye
[09:51] <quisling> winmutt, you have that string in XML?
[09:55] <theooo> My internet is dildo'd
[09:59] <winmutt> both
[10:00] <winmutt> the html page is xhtml 1.0 strict but the content type is text/html
[10:25] <winmutt> quisling any suggestions?
[10:27] <theooo> Goddamit
[10:36] <theooo> Oh LOlz
[10:36] <theooo> http://pastebin.ca/325914
[10:38] <theooo> okiday
[10:54] <quisling> winmutt, so it's XHTML, not HTML.
[10:56] <quisling> winmutt,d o you have it online?
[11:00] <gregorycu> hello all
[11:11] <emanuel__> opens
[11:11] <emanuel__> <emanuel__> a page with data on www.gamebookers.com
[11:14] <quisling> huh?
[11:38] <winmutt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvwOYoziT2A&NR
[11:38] <winmutt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvwOYoziT2A&NR
[11:38] <winmutt> hilarious
[12:03] <jason2> any design gurus feel like looking at a site to see how bad it looks lol?
[12:07] <Icchan^> can you guys give any editors wich could show me what my page looks like? :
[12:08] <Icchan^> i don't want frontpage of dreamweawer stuff. but something to help me.
[12:09] <jason2> firefox lol
[12:10] <jason2> best way to see what your page looks like is open a browser
[12:10] <Icchan^> well... it's not fun to change between programs... my current editor of cho
[12:10] <quisling> Icchan^, you really need to open a browser to get a good idea of what it w
[12:10] <quisling> jason2, what's the URL?
[12:10] <jason2> well you have to multitask to develop
[12:11] <jason2> i have 21 windows open right now
[12:11] <quisling> well, that's a bit excessive.
[12:11] <jason2> 4 desktops
[12:11] <jason2> not really
[12:11] <quisling> yeah, really.
[12:11] <jason2> lol
[12:11] <jason2> it runs smooth as silk on ubuntu linux with a core2 duo e6300
[12:11] <quisling> *yawn*
[12:12] <jason2> quisling: http://www.jason-oliver.com/akpc3/index.html
[12:12] <quisling> the logo looks terrible.
[12:12] <jason2> lol besides that
[12:12] <quisling> like I said before, hire a designer.
[12:13] <jason2> lol yeah
[12:13] <jason2> this one in taking too much time
[12:14] <jason2> i got to get 55,000 products into an oscommerce database
[12:38] <Kris_home> some of you gents helped Lisa17 yet?
[12:39] * quisling changes topic to '#html: No Dreamweaver, Myspace, or Ebay help. Didn't write it?
[12:40] <theooo> a<@quisling> Icchan^, you really need to open a browser to get a good
[12:41] <theooo> I know a guy who seriously sits and starts coding for 3 hours
[12:41] <theooo> then looks at the page, to see if there are errors, and funny thing is
[12:42] <theooo> he barely makes any error. (typos excluded ;P)
[12:42] <Kris_home> what does he code?
[12:42] <Icchan^> well, it's not so rare. it just takes a pecific type of a mind to be able t
[12:42] <theooo> HTML/PHP/CSS/JS
[12:43] <theooo> That guy is seriously mental, very skille
[12:43] <theooo> d
[12:43] <theooo> all he uses is some note-pad like editor with colors
[12:43] <Kris_home> an iterative proces of some sort is often a far more effective approach t
[12:44] <Icchan^> theooo, i would like to use something like that, but with a possibility for
[12:44] <theooo> Dreamweaver
[12:45] <Kris_home> i am not so sure if it is really helpful though.. could he explain exactl
[12:45] <Icchan^> dreamweawer is like frontpage, but with valid html ;D
[12:45] <theooo> You are dumb
[12:45] <theooo> You can use the code part only
[12:45] <Kris_home> dreamweaver's code view is fine, just don't use the visual stuff for anyt
[12:46] <theooo> and see in the WYSIWYG part what comes out
[12:46] <theooo> yeah ok true
[12:46] <Kris_home> nothing beats a browser
[12:46] <theooo> I also prefer the F5 button and Firefox/MSIE6(7)
[12:46] <Icchan^> anything serious... well, i'm not doing this for monay or to be publishing
[12:47] <Icchan^> i need to lear html/css and stuff... :D
[12:47] <Icchan^> *learn
[12:47] <Kris_home> ah, you are a hobbyist
[12:47] <theooo> Just use dreamweaver
[12:47] <theooo> I raelly don't understand why people 'hate' dreamweaver.
[12:47] <Kris_home> why do you need to learn it, icchan?
[12:48] <Icchan^> Kris_home, it's good to know how to code html/xhtml/css :)
[12:48] <arpa-> How can i make my text align to a certain border, like at http://www.marketin
[12:48] <Kris_home> theooo, i still think that DW is an awfully expensive product if you only
[12:48] <Icchan^> it may give you an opportunity for a job sometime
[12:48] <theooo> Yeah
[12:48] <theooo> Kris_home the price if such programs are indeed expensive, if not too espens
[12:49] <theooo> But yeah, I 'bought' them all 8-)
[12:49] <Kris_home> theooo, i am lucky i don't have to push the cash myself
[12:49] <theooo> Well, I'm still a student so I don't bother with legal software
[12:49] <theooo> Once I go work for a company, they'll give me the tools to work with, so I d
[12:50] <Kris_home> arpa-, text-align:justify;
[12:50] <arpa-> thanks
[12:50] <theooo> justify doesn't work for me ;<
[12:50] <Kris_home> arpa-, it sucks most of the time though. I'd read some typographical arti
[12:51] <quisling> NEVER use text-align:justify with HTML.
[12:51] <theooo> Only with css, or what? ;p
[12:51] <Kris_home> use it with CSS, that is right
[12:51] <quisling> no.
[12:51] <Kris_home> and use it on text that wraps over multiple lines
[12:51] <quisling> don't use it at all.
[12:51] <arpa-> why not
[12:52] <Kris_home> quisling, there are very rare situations in which it is suitable
[12:52] <quisling> because, browsers can't render text properly to make justified text displa
[12:52] <quisling> there's no kerning, and no hyphenation.
[12:54] <theooo> yeah
[12:54] <theooo> I love using that in essays and such though
[12:54] <theooo> also imo it reads better
[12:55] <quisling> its' fine if you're doing it in print.
[12:55] * sp4nk is now known as spank
[12:55] <Kris_home> even in print there are typographical concerns
[12:55] <Kris_home> there are reasons newspapers for instance use it in certain situations
[12:56] <Kris_home> like in tight columns
[12:56] <Kris_home> but i am no expert on this
[12:57] <Kris_home> there are do's and don'ts on the subject and one should not do it because
[13:04] <theooo> what's the quickest way to open a window with a specific size?
[13:04] <quisling> window.open
[13:04] <theooo> and then give a specific size?
[13:04] <quisling> google for it and read.
[13:05] <theooo> why the balls am I here if I have to google everything? :
[13:05] <theooo> p
[13:05] <happydude> cause you're lazy?
[13:05] <theooo> nah im not lazy
[13:05] <quisling> yeah you are.
[13:05] <quisling> you obviously didn't know window.open else you would've googled it
[13:05] <theooo> lies
[13:05] <quisling> so if that's not the case, then youre just lazy.
[13:05] <theooo> ok hugs?
[13:06] <theooo> make love not war
[13:12] <oTTo[i]> anyone know where one could post a file requiring cgi-bin folder
[13:15] <Slade> hey does anyone know something similar to awstats but not using perl that'll
[13:15] <quisling> oTTo[i], what do you mean?
[13:17] <oTTo[i]> well i want to create a form that will email me back kinda thing
[13:17] <oTTo[i]> and i'm hosting it somewhere where there is no cgi-bin folder to put up an
[13:17] <oTTo[i]> kinda thing
[13:17] <oTTo[i]> make sense?
[13:18] <quisling> so what do you have access to on the server? php? asp?
[13:19] <oTTo[i]> just html
[13:19] <oTTo[i]> but i guess i would need access to php too
[13:19] <oTTo[i]> humm might not work then
[13:19] <quisling> then you're shit outta luck
[13:20] <oTTo[i]> thanx anyways
[14:08] <MrCraig> I see line-height but that seems to be for each line within the paragraph--
[14:08] <Arrakis> margin?
[14:08] <Arrakis> padding?
[14:09] <MrCraig> Arrakis: I'll try those but I'm doubtful...
[14:10] <MrCraig> I don't have <p> ... </p> around each paragraph. Rather, I'm g
[14:30] <Arrakis> your question makes no sense
[14:39] <MrCraig> really?
[14:40] <quisling> MrCraig, so you just have a string with carraige returns?
[14:49] <MrCraig> yes
[14:51] <quisling> what language are you using to interact w/ the DB?
[14:51] <quisling> PHP? ASP? Perl?
[14:51] <MrCraig> jsp, though that part is black box to me
[14:53] <quisling> okay, well at some point someone needs to replace the line breaks with par
[14:53] <quisling> from there you can use CSS to add padding/margin to the paragraph as neede
[14:54] <MrCraig> I understand.
[14:54] <MrCraig> thanks
[14:54] <quisling> np.
[14:54] <quisling> should be very easy for whomever is supplying the data.
[14:58] <theooo> ok i'm lazy
[14:58] <theooo> after googling for 10 minutes
[14:59] <quisling> googling for what?
[14:59] <theooo> How to get <li> closer to the side (left) (I'm also using the <ul&g
[15:00] <quisling> you'd be better off with simple trial and error with a simple sample
[15:00] <theooo> ok sec
[15:00] <quisling> just make <ul><li>test</li></ul> and modify the ma
[15:00] <theooo> yeah
[15:02] <theooo> Neat, that worked ;D
[15:02] <theooo> Goddammit, i should play around more rather than ask and google
[15:02] <theooo> wuv u quisling
[15:46] * boki is now known as The_Zmen
[15:46] * The_Zmen is now known as boki
[16:24] * alpheus is now known as haleyss`
[16:55] <tech-> http://www.pomum.no/2007/01/23/stuffs/ On this page, copyright notice is plac
[16:56] <quisling> gee, I dunno. compare one to the other and note the differences.
[17:02] <MAS84> hi, when web hosts say that there is a $6.95 charge for a domain transfer, wh
[17:02] <MAS84> or some offer free domain transfer with purchase of hosting package
[17:02] <MAS84> what is actually going on when the domain is transferred?
[17:02] <quisling> modifying the DNS to point your domain to their hosting.
[17:03] <MAS84> but can't i do that myself through my domain manager at godaddy?
[17:03] <quisling> of course
[17:04] <MAS84> so i'm better off taking them up on the offer of the free domain registration
[17:05] <theooo> thing is
[17:05] <quisling> why would you take them up on either?
[17:06] <theooo> domain wpuld be registered @ the domain company
[17:06] <quisling> if you get a free domain registration, it won't be at godaddy.
[17:06] <quisling> and if it is, you may not control it.
[17:06] <quisling> read the terms and conditions
[17:06] <MAS84> im not sure what you mean.... i have a couple domains registered at godaddy a
[17:06] <MAS84> but i'm looking at hosting from dreamhost.com
[17:07] <MAS84> and i think they offer a free domain registration with purchase of a hosting
[17:08] <MAS84> so if i use my domain manager at godaddy to point to the dns servers at dream
[17:09] <spank> don't dick with domain names through hosting companies
[17:09] <MAS84> except that i get a free domain if i buy hosting from dreamhost...which is wh
[17:09] <quisling> are you not able to read?
[17:09] <spank> it really just isn't worth the bullshit
[17:11] <ihate> i have a site with content on it
[17:11] <MAS84> thanks for the help
[17:11] <quisling> It is amazing that some people actually function in this world without bei
[17:11] <spank> i might have to move to dreamhost or some shit, because i am tired of mediate
[17:11] <quisling> ihate, congrats.
[17:11] <ihate> how would i get it to seo
[17:12] <ihate> haha
[17:12] <quisling> what do you mean?
[17:12] <spank> ihate: does it have relevent content and links? awesome. it's "seo"'
[17:13] <ihate> im new so im using a template making
[17:13] <ihate> this is what it says to do
[17:13] <ihate> ou can customize the pages, or not, add articles, subtract articles, add page
[17:13] <quisling> what "template making" are you using?
[17:13] <ihate> its some adsense kid
[17:13] <ihate> kit
[17:14] <quisling> so, basicalyl, you have no clue what you're doing.
[17:14] <quisling> good luck.
[17:14] <ihate> no i do
[17:14] <quisling> no, you don't.
[17:14] <ihate> but there are no instructions
[17:14] <quisling> OMG no instructions.
[17:14] <ihate> like they dont make sense
[17:14] <quisling> how can they make sense if they're not there?
[17:14] <quisling> where did you get this "ad sense kit" ?
[17:16] <ihate> http://www.senocularstudios.com/body-building/
[17:16] <ihate> how would i get this to show in google?
[17:16] <ihate> or yahoo
[17:16] <ihate> or anything
[17:16] <quisling> submit it.
[17:16] <quisling> where'd you buy it?
[17:17] <quisling> so, basically you have some adsense ads, and a bunch of crap content.
[17:17] <quisling> brilliant.
[17:17] * gauze still hasn't had time to look at WEFT/embedded/dynamic font stuff.
[17:17] <ihate> yes that gets generated on key word searchs
[17:17] <ihate> how do you submit something to google?
[17:18] <quisling> and the rest of the content is just ripped off of other sites.
[17:18] <quisling> also brilliant.
[17:18] <ihate> and keeps generating
[17:18] <quisling> www.google.com submit url
[17:19] <ihate> now do i add the domain?
[17:19] <ihate> or the site it self?
[17:19] <quisling> learn to read.
[17:19] <quisling> it's all explained on google's site.
[17:19] <gauze> I don't know how my boss thinks i can "knock this out in no time" wehn i am r
[17:19] <quisling> http://www.google.com/addurl/
[17:21] <quisling> which *gasp* you would've found if you searched on google for "submit url"
[17:23] <ihate> i did
[17:24] <quisling> soooo, what's the problem?
[17:25] <quisling> anyway, you're just producing a bullshit site with content that's meaningl
[17:25] <ihate> so the site i submitted is not showing
[18:46] * sornman_ is now known as sornman
[19:01] <jackthtrp> '
[19:18] <tomb0y> anyone here care to help me with some css for IE 6? just working on a simpl
[19:37] <quisling> tomb0y, url?
[19:48] <quisling-> tomb0y, did you have a CSS problem?
[19:50] <CapaH> This is probably the best channel to ask this question --- can someone tell m
[19:52] <quisling-> CapaH, you need permission to use any image you find.
[19:54] <CapaH> Where can I find a lot of images that are free to use -- for building pages?
[19:55] <tomb0y> quisling: yes, just having probs with IE 6 understanding positions.
[19:55] <quisling-> CapaH, www.istockphoto.com very cheap stock photography.
[19:55] <quisling-> tomb0y, url?
[19:55] <tomb0y> my url would be http://contacts.damnedthought.com in FF looks good, IE6 do
[19:56] <tomb0y> pretty much the leftcontainer/rightcontainer having height probs in IE
[19:57] <quisling-> your doctype isn't valid
[19:57] <quisling-> http://alistapart.com/stories/doctype/ < go use HTML 4.01 Strict
[19:57] <quisling-> There's no such thing as "Traditional"
[19:58] <quisling-> that's part of your problem. because IE is probably in "quirks mode"
[19:58] <quisling-> and your HTML's terrlb.e
[19:58] <tomb0y> its in strict mode, the validator sees no prob with it
[19:58] <quisling-> There are MANY more tags in HTML than "DIV"
[19:58] <quisling-> right, but IE won't render things properly w/o a strict or XHTML doctype.
[19:59] <quisling-> Correct Doctype:
[19:59] <quisling-> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
[19:59] <quisling-> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
[20:00] <quisling-> once you fix the doctype, then look into the visual issues. and while you
[20:01] <tomb0y> quisling: ok i fixed the doctype. understand im working on a basic templat
[20:01] <quisling-> you've got <div> content </div>
[20:01] <quisling-> and <div> link </div>
[20:02] <tomb0y> ok.. do u understand this is a very preliminary design? just asking for sim
[20:02] <quisling-> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcontacts.da
[20:02] <quisling-> your CSS doesn't validate.
[20:03] <tomb0y> ahh, those are IE css hacks for scrollbars...
[20:03] <tomb0y> of course those wont validate.
[20:03] <quisling-> there are other errors.
[20:03] <tomb0y> if you wanted to be a dick.. then dont act like u want to help out.. neve
[20:04] <quisling-> I'm trying to help you fix your problems.
[20:05] <quisling-> ...
[21:36] <Docmarten> is there anyway to emulate an <a onclick="..."> here </a> to
[21:36] <Arrakis> put a href="#"
[21:37] <Arrakis> and put a ;return false;
[21:37] <Arrakis> after whatever is inside your onclick
[21:37] <Docmarten> ah, k..thanks
[21:41] <Arrakis> .
[21:45] * K0m4 is now known as KOm4
[21:48] <Docmarten> in an iFrame, I am loading a page from another domain, that page has diff
[21:56] <Arrakis> nope
[21:56] <Arrakis> that's a cross-scripting/cross-site issue
[21:56] <Arrakis> and its a security hazard so it's not allowed
[21:57] <Docmarten> k...i was wondering. started to toy with it and wasn't seeing any respon
[21:57] <Arrakis> yep
[21:59] <Docmarten> though kind of a bummer.
[22:00] <Arrakis> sure, until you click a link
[22:00] <Arrakis> that is your bank's website
[22:00] <Arrakis> but it was hidden inside of a frame that you couldn't see
[22:00] <Arrakis> and they just nabbed all of ur info and moniez
[22:00] <Arrakis> THEN UR LIKE OMG H4X0R
[22:01] <Docmarten> heheheh I need to load a "portion" of a page from another domain for info
[22:01] <Docmarten> i was hoping to weed out the stuff by using element tags to hide the disp
[23:35] <freakmod> hello, is there any way to stop IE from giving me that "Allow Blocked Cont
[23:37] <spank> is it doing it locally? just adjust your security settings
[23:38] <freakmod> im just worried about visitors to my website recieving that warning
[23:38] <freakmod> im wondering why IE is giving me that warning
[23:38] <freakmod> on some html i'm making that has a css layer and some javascript to positi
[23:39] <freakmod> i'll upload the html
[23:39] <spank> nah, your security settings for running local content differ, it won't happen
[23:39] <freakmod> oh i see !
[23:40] <freakmod> i'll upload it and see if it works there
[23:41] <freakmod> thanks, it works :P whew
Session Close: Wed Jan 24 00:00:00 2007