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Session Start: Fri Sep 08 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #html
[00:28] <Judaz> Goodmorning
[00:29] <muad> morning
[00:29] <muad> granne
[00:29] <Judaz> this cut'n'paste & Trial'n'Error is wearing me out..
[00:29] <Judaz> hehe
[00:30] <Judaz> cant figure out on how to get my damn border around a table =).
[00:30] <Judaz> well i got the border to work, but at the expense of the table itself =(
[00:32] <Judaz> <td width="15%" valign="top" align="center" style="background-color : #F68
[00:43] <Nocd> can someone sell me a domain for cheap plz?
[00:43] <Nocd> a .net preferably
[00:45] <jrichards> anyone provide hosting? wanted 3 dedicated asap, 1gb any processor, $600
[00:45] <Nocd> jr you can negotiation with the companys on IRC
[00:46] <Nocd> they have their own channels
[00:46] <jrichards> such as?
[00:46] <Nocd> #nerdytechs
[00:46] <StoneCydh> serverpronto.com has good prices
[00:46] <StoneCydh> unless you want unmetered
[00:46] <jrichards> i need the servers asap, as in 1 hour
[00:46] <StoneCydh> if so investigate hivelocity.net instead
[00:46] <StoneCydh> huhu
[00:46] <StoneCydh> yeah um
[00:46] <StoneCydh> good luck with that at 1am
[00:47] <Nocd> jr you definatly want to go with an IRC company then
[00:47] <Nocd> inleast people respond
[00:47] <Nocd> the staff in #nerdytechs is online right now, they might be asleep tho
[00:48] <Nocd> they even accept paypal
[00:50] <Nocd> http://nerdytechs.com/
[00:51] <Nocd> wow NM, their dedicated servers are expensive
[00:52] <spank> [01:44:58am] <Nocd> can someone sell me a domain for cheap plz?
[00:52] <spank> you can't shell out $9 at godaddy?
[00:52] <Nocd> i've tried hundreds
[00:52] <Nocd> everythings taken
[00:52] <Nocd> i basicly need to beg to get a half-decent domain :/
[00:53] * Nocd licks too
[00:53] <Nocd> only in a rebellious way tho
[00:56] <spank> what kind of domain are you wanting?
[00:57] <Nocd> one .net for my writings page, & another for a news page. (science & politics
[00:58] <Nocd> .org or .us is decent, but I hate .coms
[00:58] <spank> bawlsatchel.net isn't taken
[00:59] <spank> politicalhaywire.net isn't taken
[00:59] <spank> shit man, tons of .nets available
[01:00] <Nocd> well I was trying to get a short one
[01:05] <muad> is it possible to have borders around just one cell of the tabel or?
[01:13] * spank changes topic to 'Google First. No Dreamweaver, Frontpage, Myspace, or CMS! Paste l
[01:39] <Kuppa> I'm trying to align text inside a button... what is the property for that? I
[01:39] <Kuppa> but it didn't do it
[01:56] <Fuzzy76> isn't button text centered by default?
[01:57] <Kuppa> Fuzzy76: yup, but it doesn't seem to work with these international characters
[01:58] <Kuppa> it treats the text as though there's some spaces on the left but if I insert
[01:58] <Fuzzy76> dunno... I'm guess there's something else going on... Another css rule that
[01:59] <Kuppa> there's no such thing as negative padding? like padding-left: -5px;
[01:59] <Kuppa> I tried to forcefully move it left
[02:00] <Fuzzy76> yes, there is...
[02:00] <Kuppa> hmm, I'll try that then
[02:07] <Kuppa> I moved it using padding and it seems alright on different resolutions, oh we
[02:58] <Casperin> does IE show headlines on top of divs per definition?... I can't seem to p
[02:59] <Casperin> (looks fine in ff)
[02:59] <moliver> hi, does anyone know of any good tutorials on flash... I need an introducti
[03:01] <Casperin> never done flash, but try here: http://www.w3schools.com/flash/default.asp
[03:02] <moliver> I'll check it out.. thanx
[03:04] <Casperin> np
[03:04] <Casperin> ... now i put the h2 into a div.. together with the border (that i want hi
[03:08] <pettern_> moliver, flashkit has many tutorials
[03:11] <jig-saw> check my review of an average hosting provider.. I wonder if I can sue thos
[03:21] <Casperin> ... i could cry.. i've tried everything now
[03:21] <Casperin> ... it seems
[04:00] * barbell- is now known as barbell
[04:10] <Maddie> hi, how can I put a line through my text?
[04:12] <digitok> <strike>text</strike>
[04:12] <Maddie> yea i found out, thx anyway
[04:12] <digitok> btw that's deprecated
[04:12] <digitok> lol
[04:21] <Fuzzy76> { text-decoration: line-through; }
[05:03] <Casperin> how do you write "valign="top"" in css?
[05:05] <Fuzzy76> Casperin: http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_pos_vertical-align.asp
[05:07] <Casperin> thanks.. i should've found that :(
[05:40] <c1m> how can i make the main scrollbar rolling, but not that which is inside blog wh
[05:40] <c1m> http://www.zone.ee/raasikurula/
[05:41] <c1m> both of scrollbars scroll while scrolling the mouse wheel.
[05:43] <torrio> is it relevant to make a site for IE 5 (ins, or can i make it only for IE &g
[05:43] <torrio> sorry, is it relevant to make a site for IE 5 (isn't it outdated), or can i
[05:45] <Fuzzy76> ie6+ is acceptable, but it depends on your demographics and wether it's ok
[05:45] <Fuzzy76> The way I see it is that my sites should be readable and look "fairly ok" i
[05:46] <torrio> thanks :)
[05:47] <jig-saw> has anyone heard of liquidweb.com?
[05:49] * Disconnected
[05:49] * Attempting to rejoin channel #html
[05:49] * Rejoined channel #html
[05:49] * Topic is 'Google First. No Dreamweaver, Frontpage, Myspace, or CMS! Paste links, not code
[05:49] * Set by spank!~spank@69-171-236-93.clspco.adelphia.net on Fri Sep 08 01:13:46
[06:14] * _Ize is now known as Ize
[06:15] <enzo_4> hi
[06:15] <enzo_4> i try to put a border on each line of a table, it works on FF, but not on I
[08:17] * _Jiffe is now known as Jiffe
[08:17] * _fuckstic is now known as fuckstick
[08:17] * _D0T-C0M is now known as D0T-C0M
[08:23] * xchaosW is now known as zchaosW
[08:53] * Mikie is now known as Arrrakis
[09:14] <dephtones> need some help changing a CSS sheet. it's kind of a long question. maybe
[09:16] <RoLo`> hi, how can I do when you click the submit, it redirects to another page, so
[09:18] <RoLo`> NVR MIND I FOUND OUT
[09:18] <dephtones> lol @ RoLo
[09:19] <dephtones> i bet you all get some strange people in here.
[09:19] <Arrrakis> as long as they leave after their weirdness its okay
[09:19] <Arrrakis> its the ones hwo follow you home
[09:19] <Arrrakis> and start stalking you that are the problem
[09:19] <dephtones> oh...so that's not good to do that?
[09:19] <Arrrakis> oh its not that its not good
[09:20] <dephtones> ;)
[09:20] <Arrrakis> but if you find yourself tripping over a banana peel
[09:20] <Arrrakis> or you find anti-freeze in your gas tank
[09:20] <Arrrakis> ULL KNOW WHY
[09:20] <Arrrakis> :p
[09:20] <dephtones> :o
[09:48] <InNeed> whats the command to print in html?
[10:04] <strategy> InNeed, there is no HTML print command.
[10:07] <strategy> /whois inneed
[10:07] <strategy> doh
[10:12] <InNeed> why i got the boot?
[10:12] <Arrrakis> cuz u werent paying attention bitch
[10:13] <InNeed> yes i was, they said there was no print command
[10:13] <InNeed> so i went to php to ask there
[10:13] <InNeed> sorry
[10:13] <Arrrakis> hahahaha
[10:13] <InNeed> oh well sorry
[10:13] <Arrrakis> just use javascript
[10:14] <strategy> uh, php isn't going to have any "print" command either because php is serv
[10:14] <strategy> unless you have your server hooked up to your printer. :)
[10:14] <Arrrakis> lmao
[10:14] <SkizW> I'm guessing you are looking for a print button js
[10:14] <strategy> document.print();
[10:14] <InNeed> ok ill google
[10:14] <Arrrakis> care ufl strategy - people now a days might just think that would work
[10:15] <strategy> <a href="javascript:window.print();">Print</a>
[10:15] <InNeed> thank you
[10:15] <strategy> that'll launch the print dialog.
[10:15] <strategy> doesn't work on older mac browsers.
[10:15] <Arrrakis> cuz mac sucks hard core
[10:15] <SkizW> Critical Error: You have successfully logged in <- rofl
[10:15] * damian_ is now known as damian
[10:19] <strategy> Arrrakis, if I wanted to validate certain fields only if a checkbox was ch
[10:20] <Arrrakis> Yeah i believe so
[10:21] <Arrrakis> i dont like the validators that came with asp.net 2.-
[10:21] <Arrrakis> heh
[10:42] <strategy> hey Arrrakis, in regex is \d+ sufficient to determine if a string is all n
[10:42] <Arrrakis> assuming you specify ^\d+$
[10:42] <strategy> uh, nope. :)
[10:43] <Arrrakis> \d will match any numeric combos
[10:43] <Arrrakis> ^ and $ tell it to start from the beginning and match till the end
[10:43] <SkizW> ^\d+$ should do it
[10:43] <strategy> whurd.
[10:43] <ryguy> whurd
[10:43] <SkizW> whurd he go?
[10:43] <ryguy> to the shitter
[10:43] <ryguy> brb
[10:43] <Arrrakis> Whurdstone
[10:44] <Arrrakis> hey you bastid
[10:44] <Arrrakis> you rined it
[10:44] <strategy> me too.
[11:46] <InNeed> hey how do I add a footer to my website
[11:47] <InNeed> or would that be java??
[11:48] <spank> you're kidding, right?
[11:48] <InNeed> not at all
[11:48] <InNeed> i want to have a footer on all my pages... like created and maintained by""
[11:48] <spank> google includes
[11:49] <strategy> yeah, wtf makes you think that would have anything to do with java?
[11:49] <Two9A> Google do an include system now?
[11:49] <spank> haha yeah
[11:49] <spank> Google Includes (beta)
[11:49] <InNeed> well cause include would not insert at bottom of page right?
[11:49] <Two9A> Sweet, I should try it out
[11:49] <Two9A> include.google.com I presume?
[11:49] <strategy> InNeed, it will insert it wherever you put the include.
[11:50] <InNeed> correct so what I add 20 <BR> in it so it reaches the bottom?
[11:50] <strategy> InNeed, no, you use CSS.
[11:50] <InNeed> ah im not very fond of css, hmmm
[11:50] <strategy> position:absolute; bottom:0;
[11:50] <InNeed> sorry for my ignorance
[11:50] <xAyiDe> This does not seem to work in IE "border:1px solid transparent;", Is there a
[11:51] <strategy> xAyiDe, uh, padding:1px;
[11:51] <strategy> or margin:1px
[11:51] <strategy> your choice.
[11:51] <xAyiDe> true
[11:51] <xAyiDe> thanx
[11:51] <xAyiDe> feel like a retard now ,)
[11:51] <InNeed> strategy, so I include "footer.html" position:absolute; bottom:0;
[11:51] <InNeed> and then just put my footer there?
[11:52] <strategy> InNeed, huh?
[11:52] <strategy> you have no clue what you're doing, do you.
[11:52] <InNeed> not with css no
[11:52] <InNeed> sorry
[11:52] <strategy> no, I mean not at all.
[11:52] <spank> are you a designer?
[11:52] <InNeed> i know some php,
[11:52] <InNeed> yup
[11:52] <spank> or developer?
[11:52] <InNeed> designer
[11:53] <strategy> a "designer"
[11:53] <spank> got a portfolio?
[11:53] <strategy> dood www.myspace.com/inNeed
[11:53] <InNeed> well i have some of my work ill show one sec
[11:53] <spank> haha
[11:54] <strategy> InNeed, <div id="footer"> footer content </div> put all of tha
[11:54] <InNeed> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/9185104/
[11:54] <InNeed> thats me
[11:54] <InNeed> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6551707/?qo=10&q=by%3Asqueige+sort%3Atim
[11:54] <InNeed> and that
[11:54] <strategy> uh... you changed the gamma OMG
[11:54] <strategy> or did you do the rendering too?
[11:55] <InNeed> rendering modeling and rigging
[11:55] <strategy> so you're not a website designer.
[11:55] <InNeed> i am but mostly for flash
[11:55] <InNeed> and no my major was 3d not web design per say
[11:55] <InNeed> ok all this just cause i wanna have a footer :(
[11:56] <InNeed> and I have yet to learn css
[11:56] <InNeed> :(
[11:56] <InNeed> guess ill just go with 30 <BR>
[11:57] <InNeed> why i got kicked for now?
[11:57] <strategy> cause you wasted my time.
[11:57] <InNeed> im paying attention
[11:57] <InNeed> sorry
[11:57] <strategy> whatever.
[11:57] <InNeed> good day then
[11:58] <InNeed> mind if i stay in channel quietly then?
[11:59] <InNeed> strategy i just reread our conversation i had not seen you replied pardon me
[11:59] <RickyRay> i haven't really designed with tables before, but take a look at my exampl
[12:00] <RickyRay> how can i get my left nave text to stay up at the top of that left column
[12:00] <strategy> tables aren't for layout.
[12:00] <RickyRay> in the case of ebay, tables are best for layout
[12:00] <strategy> have fun.
[12:00] <RickyRay> will you help me ?
[12:00] <strategy> no.
[12:01] <RickyRay> why the hell not?
[12:01] <RickyRay> lol
[12:01] <strategy> I don't think you're going to get help with using tables for layout in her
[12:01] <InNeed> here it comes, hes getting the shoe!! weeeee
[12:01] <RickyRay> well, ebay's guidelines say no useful css
[12:02] * strategy changes topic to 'Google First. No Dreamweaver, Frontpage, Myspace, eBay or CMS!
[12:02] <InNeed> whats wrong with tables for layout though, jus curious I was always told by
[12:02] <strategy> well, your college prof was wrong.
[12:02] <strategy> InNeed, how long ago did he/she say that?
[12:02] <RickyRay> so there appears to be a use for tables for layout (ebay stores and ebay a
[12:02] <InNeed> i agree but why? 3 years
[12:03] <InNeed> ricky they prob still use tables cause theyre autogenerated by something els
[12:03] <strategy> InNeed, because that's not what they're for.
[12:03] <strategy> tables are for data.
[12:03] <strategy> CSS is for layout.
[12:03] <RickyRay> inneed, yes thats it
[12:03] <InNeed> no i know thats not exactly for layout, but the way i was instructed you cre
[12:04] <strategy> RickyRay, you can use CSS on ebay... it's just more difficult.
[12:04] <RickyRay> the css used for layout doesn't work in ebay auctions so in the case of eb
[12:04] <InNeed> maybe i should go read up on css then?
[12:04] <strategy> InNeed, your teacher was wrong.
[12:04] <strategy> RickyRay, sure it does. you just have to konw what you're doing.
[12:04] <RickyRay> div's aren't allowed :(
[12:04] <strategy> since when?
[12:06] <strategy> divs work just fine.
[12:06] <strategy> as does CSS.
[12:07] <RickyRay> i'm going to read up on it, last year a web designer i hired wasn't able t
[12:07] <RickyRay> bbl
[12:07] <strategy> I just did a test and it worked fine.
[12:07] <RickyRay> can i see your test?
[12:08] <strategy> I just went through the process and for the content of my ad I had <div
[12:08] <strategy> no problems.
[12:09] <RickyRay> ok, i'll check it out
[12:14] <RickyRay> i got this message trying to copy one of my css website main webpages over
[12:14] <RickyRay> Please correct the following information:
[12:14] <RickyRay>
[12:14] <RickyRay> You entered some HTML or other code in Text Section that is not allowed.
[12:14] <RickyRay> this is the html tips page, http://pages.ebay.com/help/specialtysites/stor
[12:16] <strategy> obviously you copied sometihng which wasn't allowed like a LINK tag or SCR
[12:16] <RickyRay> although div seems to be allowed, not exactly sure what part of my page is
[12:17] <strategy> anyway, best of luck.
[12:18] <RickyRay> thanks for the help, maybe it's classes that aren't allowed
[12:18] <RickyRay> or defining of css on regular tags like h1 or p
[12:18] <RickyRay> cause that might cause ebay's page to look funny or something
[12:19] <strategy> well, if you just cut and paste your whole page, obviously there's a lot o
[12:21] <RickyRay> ahh yes i found it way down the page, a <script>
[12:21] <RickyRay> works great now, thanks for the help!
[12:22] <strategy> np.
[12:42] <DoRnWork> any XSL gurus in here?
[12:45] <dephtones> can someone tell me why this looks so different in mozilla than it does i
[12:45] <dephtones> ?
[12:45] <dephtones> i can't figure it out...been working on it all day
[12:47] <dephtones> it's like my .css is pushed all the way to the left in internet explorer,
[12:48] <ryguy> heh
[12:48] <strategy> uh, your .css is pushed all the way?
[12:48] <dephtones> any ideas?
[12:49] <strategy> yeah, use a doctype.
[12:49] <dephtones> yea, pushed, as in moved, or placed differently to the left
[12:49] <strategy> <!doctype html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD xhtml 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR
[12:50] <strategy> well, I don't quite kno whow your .CSS file is moving, but start by declar
[12:52] <lidd> god i would really enjoy a cock in my ass right now
[12:55] * fan_do_co is now known as ale
[13:06] * sephturia is now known as sephi`pi
[13:22] <Arrakis> <lidd> god i would really enjoy a cock in my ass right no
[13:22] <Arrakis> hahahahah
[13:22] <Arrakis> *** ronnie_ has kicked lidd from #html [[na(k)] eat my ass]
[13:22] <Arrakis> too bad he didnt get the msg that tells him to go sit on a cock
[13:22] <Arrakis> that would have been even better
[13:23] <strategy> * lidd was kicked by dumbbell- (no pussy for you!)
[13:23] <Arrakis> rofl
[13:23] <Arrakis> thats just as good of a message
[13:23] <Arrakis> i mean he obviously was a cock and ass man
[13:23] <Arrakis> so no pussy for him
[14:46] * Hamie is now known as iHam
[15:07] <Arrakis> CHINO
[15:10] <OES> Anyone care to check my code > www.1st4lingerie.com/index2.php > usabilit
[15:11] <ryguy> border on each side but none on the bottom?
[15:12] <OES> well... im unsure on that to be honest
[15:13] <OES> im trying to find a fix for ff/opera to stretch the left/right borders down pag
[15:13] <strategy> oes, there's no such thing as HTML 4.1
[15:13] <OES> uh?
[15:14] <strategy> and your menu should probably be nested ULs rather than DL.
[15:14] <strategy> the link on the bottom of your page.
[15:14] <strategy> Valid HTML 4.1
[15:14] <OES> 4.01 I believe that should be
[15:14] <OES> I was thinking of uls but someone advised me a while back to use a dl
[15:14] <strategy> well, it's not sematically accurate.
[15:15] <OES> I cant really see what difference it makes though
[15:15] <strategy> if you ever want to expand the navigation it'll be easier.
[15:17] <OES> expand in what ways? sorry about the questions, I like to know why im doing som
[15:18] <Two9A> Expand by adding new items and/or categories. It's easier to do if you have a
[15:19] <strategy> nested ULs map directly to a simple hierarchical structure, unlike a DL wh
[15:19] <OES> Still doesn't make sense... the category/items will be managed by php/db anyway
[15:19] <OES> hmm ok, but both produce the same end result
[15:20] <Two9A> They may look the same, but they don't _mean_ the same :)
[15:21] <strategy> OES, if you add another layer of categories, the whole structure of a DL b
[15:22] <OES> ah, now I understand what you mean
[15:22] <OES> so if I was to eventually have cat > subcat > subcat2 with dl it would fu
[15:25] <OES> Ive been advised that most of my meta tags arent needed... what are your commen
[15:25] <Arrakis> just leave them
[15:25] <Arrakis> lol
[15:25] <Arrakis> cuz teh world is coming full circle
[15:27] <SkizW> just use a freaking tree
[15:27] * SkizW calms down
[15:28] * Arrakis kills SkizW
[15:28] * SkizW rolls a saving throw and kills Arrakis
[15:28] <Arrakis> wtf
[15:28] <Arrakis> omg
[15:28] <Arrakis> that is like so wrong
[15:28] <SkizW> rofl
[15:28] <Arrakis> im not supposed to die here
[15:29] <SkizW> / RIP \
[15:29] <Arrakis> oh i better not be in pieces bitch
[15:29] <Arrakis> otherwise im gonna come back from the grave
[15:29] <Arrakis> and then you will RIP
[15:35] <OES> thanks for the help, cya
[16:07] <zchaos> anyone here expericed with jenna jameson porn?!
[16:07] <zchaos> i need help lol
[16:07] <zchaos> gotta buy a gift for a girl
[16:07] <zchaos> few jenna videos
[16:08] <zchaos> COME ON
[16:54] <wop> where is pab
[17:00] <Arrakis> stpmoe
[17:00] <Arrakis> stonie
[17:00] <Arrakis> stonie
[17:00] <Arrakis> oh
[17:00] <Arrakis> i thought htat was an r
[17:14] * hired- is now known as hired
[17:46] <StoneCybh> arrakinator
[17:53] <Arrakis> u can go to joly pirates donut abnd tkae a 4 hour shit for all i care
[17:55] <Arrakis> wtwfx0r
[17:56] <Arrakis> bleah
[17:56] <Arrakis> i hate this piece of shit
[17:58] <Arrakis> wtf
[17:58] <Arrakis> oh
[17:58] <Arrakis> this is gay
[17:58] <Arrakis> as shit
[17:58] <StoneCybh> dude
[17:58] <StoneCybh> your keyboard *hates* you
[17:58] <Arrakis> bleah
[17:59] <Arrakis> mozilla isnt putting a fucking thingie when an iframe loads :(
[17:59] <Arrakis> grr
[17:59] <Arrakis> how the heck can mozilla not give me my targetr
[17:59] <Arrakis> for an onload event
[17:59] <Arrakis> that is flabertastically gay as shit
[18:00] <StoneCybh> is it supercalifragilisticexpialihomosexual?
[18:00] <Arrakis> yes :(
[18:00] <Arrakis> the sad thing is - i thought i've written code that relied on it before
[18:00] <StoneCybh> is it pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanicaniosifaggotic?
[18:01] <Arrakis> uggg
[18:01] <Arrakis> its putting it under "currentTarget
[18:01] <Arrakis> ?????????????????????
[18:01] <Arrakis> WTF IS THAT
[18:01] <StoneCybh> is it sesqupedaliavender?
[18:02] <Arrakis> dont make me hurt you :(
[18:02] <StoneCybh> huhuhuhuhuhu
[18:03] <Arrakis> var mSrc = event.srcElement ? event.srcElement : (event.target ? event.tar
[18:03] <Arrakis> wow
[18:03] <Arrakis> thats just flabbertastically gay
[18:04] <Arrakis> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=885503
[18:07] <grrr`a> hey guys im making a drop down menu
[18:07] <grrr`a> and when i select a certain item i want the image to change
[18:07] <grrr`a> is this possible please?
[18:38] * b`ki is now known as boki
[19:14] * iHam is now known as iHampster
[20:44] <shizi> dang, no dreamweaver! :P
[20:58] <Arrakis> lolz
[22:13] <martinkb> is this channel for html help, or random joins/parts
[22:30] <iHampster> random joins/parts
[22:31] <StoneCybh> there's no p in hamster, douche
[22:35] <iHampster> listen u whore bag
[22:35] <iHampster> there is a p in rape
[22:36] <StoneCybh> yeah
[22:36] <StoneCybh> what i would advise
[22:37] <StoneCybh> is going to a different store for your tired old jokes
[22:37] <StoneCybh> because even if they're handing those out for free
[22:37] <StoneCybh> you're not getting your money's worth
[23:12] * Polo` is now known as Polo2
[23:13] * _Polo is now known as Polo`
[23:23] * Polo` is now known as HCB_Chris
[23:23] * HCB_Chris is now known as Polo`
Session Close: Sat Sep 09 00:00:00 2006