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Session Start: Wed Sep 06 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #html
[00:02] <Jon-> nobody here is interested to inform me about how to delete duplicated lines on
[00:03] <spank> okay
[00:03] <spank> thanks
[00:07] <Jon-> duplicate lines, how to remove them easily?
[00:46] <Haughty> Anyone know of software or methods to export .mov 360 files to .jpg panoram
[01:40] <Fuzzy76> Haughty : Using html? No.
[01:43] * Centx is now known as Armades
[01:44] * Armades is now known as Centc
[01:44] * Centc is now known as Centx
[02:00] <Macca> heh
[02:00] <Macca> why the HELL would anyone ask that in here?
[02:06] <Fuzzy76> Anyone know of a way to make div expand it's size to the floats it contains
[02:06] <trovster> * Google: http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html See More:
[02:09] <Fuzzy76> thanks trovster, that was an incredibly easy solution :)
[02:09] <trovster> Or float the container
[02:27] <Fuzzy76> that actually worked best :)
[02:31] <trovster> Nah, I never use that method. easy-clearing is much better. I have it modu
[02:32] <Fuzzy76> Yeah, I see the advantage. But my outer container in this case might as wel
[02:32] <trovster> And if you want to center the site?
[02:34] <Fuzzy76> It already is :)
[02:35] <trovster> float with margin: 0 auto.... oooo kay
[02:35] <nessa> does margin: 0 auto; work in IE?
[02:36] <trovster> yes
[02:36] <nessa> someone in here lied...
[02:37] <Fuzzy76> no
[02:38] <Fuzzy76> or
[02:38] <Fuzzy76> it works in ie6, but not earlier according to http://css-discuss.incutio.co
[02:38] <trovster> Yes.
[02:38] <trovster> IE6 in standards mode works with margin: 0 auto;
[02:38] <trovster> This is on the #css faqs, but as you can't be arsed with that channel...
[02:38] <dan-inge> http://www.2tp.no/webdesign/oppgaver/oppgave12/oppgave12.htm here is what
[02:54] <Iteki> hullo
[02:55] <Iteki> can i use width=25% for example in image tags? it seems to be resizing somewh
[02:55] <trovster> no
[02:55] <trovster> Don't resize images with HTML nor CSS
[02:55] <trovster> They look shit
[02:56] <nessa> and also resizine a 1024x768 image into 124x76 is painful on the computer and
[02:56] <nessa> resizing*
[02:56] <trovster> And a stupid bandwidth hit
[02:56] <nessa> at least, for me, i hate it when people do that shit
[02:56] <trovster> http://www.dannywallace.com/ better not go here, then.
[02:57] <Iteki> nessa, there is a method to my madness. I am forced to show a thumbnail and t
[02:57] <trovster> heh.
[02:58] <trovster> No, thumbnails are there for a reason...
[02:58] <Iteki> my users (it's an intranet situation, they have no choice in the matter) can'
[02:58] <trovster> So there is not a massive hit on all the files at once.
[02:59] <Iteki> i realise it's a bad thing to do, but sometimes you gotta choose the lesser t
[03:01] <trovster> what's the other evil?
[03:03] <cody3> i uploaded all my files in my webhost account but ones i try to look at in ex
[03:03] <trovster> Do you have files:///path/to/file.php
[03:04] <cody3> i use html only
[03:04] <trovster> Do you have files:///path/to/file.JPG THEN
[03:04] <nessa> you asked the same on #php and just like there, i assume wrong path as well
[03:05] <trovster> Hey, let's all ASSume
[03:05] <nessa> who doesn't like asses?
[03:07] <Iteki> trovster not sure what the other evil was, i said imgtag %, and you mentioned
[03:07] <nessa> tags are always more evil than css
[03:07] <trovster> No.
[03:07] <trovster> I said don't scale.
[03:07] <trovster> In HTML OR CSS
[03:07] <nessa> let's bring back <font>
[03:08] <Iteki> trovster, unfortunatly real world doesn't always work that way
[03:08] <trovster> heh.
[03:08] <trovster> heh.
[03:08] <trovster> OK. Glad you know about the real-world.
[03:08] <nessa> I used to watch the real world in the mid 90s
[03:08] <trovster> Thumbnail + large image == perfectly fine in my real-world.
[03:10] <Iteki> i am open to suggestions. the user cannot leave the page or receive a pop-up,
[03:10] <trovster> "man hours", heh, learn how to batch in programs.
[03:11] <trovster> I thought the real-world employed people who knew how to do their jobs...
[03:11] <Iteki> its not an option in this case, the new sizes would still have to be entered
[03:12] <Iteki> trovster, unfortunatly the real world embraces completely crippled CMS softwa
[03:13] <Iteki> be glad that your professional situation is such that you can stick to your p
[03:15] <Iteki> do you have a suggestion that could be applied to the scenario i described? i
[03:15] <trovster> no, you don't seem open to suggestions, so I'm not wasting my 'professiona
[03:19] <Iteki> i dont follow you there trovster, but dont worry about it, thanks for your ti
[03:19] <Fuzzy76> smack all pictures full-size on the same page, and tell the management that
[03:21] <Iteki> Fuzzy76, the managers have an enormous file full of me cursing this system :)
[03:21] <Fuzzy76> If you paid money for a cms that doesn't allow image thumbnailing you need
[03:21] <Fuzzy76> In that case, it doesn't sound like you have a choice, so I don't understan
[03:22] <trovster> They ask a question, will a load of excuses when they either 1) don't unde
[03:23] <Iteki> well, if we go back to the dawns of time and look at the original question, i
[03:23] <Iteki> ought to have remembered that you gotta allow time for the lecturing ;)
[03:23] <Fuzzy76> You CAN use % and px widths for img tags. But if you use anything else than
[03:24] <trovster> [10:56:48] <trovster> http://www.dannywallace.com/ -- like I said, l
[03:24] <Iteki> thanks fuzzy, i am aware of the drawbacks, been using irfanview since about 2
[03:25] <trovster> heh, course you have!
[03:25] <trovster> heh
[03:25] <Iteki> trovster, do you get paid by the channel to sound like an arrogant shite?
[03:25] <Iteki> excuse my language the rest of you, but dude, you got a smart mouth on you
[03:27] <Fuzzy76> As a rule of thumb a page including all elements shouldn't be more than a c
[03:28] <trovster> Well, you said 'man hours' converting images. Then you said you've been us
[03:28] <Fuzzy76> Even on a 256kbit cable connection the page would take a full minute.
[03:28] <Iteki> yep, yer mans site is vile. you are preaching to the choir fuzzy. as i said,
[03:29] <Fuzzy76> Tha larges norwegian newspaper site is 8000px high, has over 40 stories on
[03:29] <Fuzzy76> tha larges... I'm starting ebonics classes any time soon :p
[03:30] <nessa> is it nynorsk or bokmaal?
[03:30] <Iteki> heheh nynorksebonics *laughs ass off*
[03:31] <Iteki> i would take a class in that
[03:32] <Fuzzy76> It looks like a stripped php-nuke or something :p
[03:32] <Fuzzy76> nessa : Bokmål. Nynorsk is seldom used for sites like that. :)
[03:32] <nessa> who even uses nynorsk? =P
[03:33] <nessa> php nuke is satan
[03:33] <Iteki> actually... hang on.. i thought nynorsk was significantly different from bokm
[03:34] <Fuzzy76> norwegian and nynorsk are pretty similar
[03:34] <Fuzzy76> sort of like norwegian and swedish
[03:34] <nessa> skitsnakk
[03:34] <Iteki> ja, total skitsnack ;)
[03:35] <Iteki> i live in sweden (not swedish tho, don't be hatin'!)
[03:35] <nessa> my personal page is in swedish for some reason: www.slacknet.org/ness/
[03:35] <Iteki> i understand what i guess is bokmål (what all the norwegians i know speak). b
[03:35] <Iteki> where you from nessa?
[03:36] <nessa> originally from some place in scandinavia
[03:36] <Fuzzy76> Iteki : dannywallace.com is post-nuke, which is php, which supports thumbna
[03:36] <Iteki> i would say "kan jag väldigt väl" as opposed to bra, but i am not native, so
[03:36] <Fuzzy76> Iteki : Nynorsk is actually closer to the spoken dialects in norway than bo
[03:37] <Iteki> i think i will remain confused over the whole nynorsk bokmål thing. you arent
[03:37] <Iteki> i gotta grab some lunch, mind yourselves!
[03:37] <nessa> doesn't seem too complicated
[03:41] <Fuzzy76> So it's clearly a gross misuse of post-nuke
[03:52] * kotigid is now known as digitok
[04:22] * borteseph is now known as sephturia
[04:58] <flg> sup
[04:58] <flg> anyone idea how i can mirror a ftp BUT 0byte size files?
[04:58] <flg> i want only the files created, 0byte
[04:58] <Arrakis> just create the file and then close it ?
[04:58] <flg> with the directory structure
[04:59] <flg> yip
[04:59] <flg> any tool or script?
[04:59] <Fuzzy76> using html?
[04:59] <flg> nope :(
[04:59] <flg> i cant imagine another source to ask
[04:59] <Arrakis> what ftrp program are youusing?
[04:59] <flg> ffxp
[05:00] <flg> any idea?
[05:07] <JamesBrow> how can i remove the area taken by a div/img element, when I position it
[05:34] * Sojada is now known as Rife
[05:42] <_slipfric> Crikey, it stung me in the heart but dont worry, i got another one!
[05:49] * Disconnected
[05:49] * Attempting to rejoin channel #html
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[05:49] * Topic is 'RIP Steve Irwin 2006 - "Crikey! This stingray just stabbed me in me haht!"'
[05:49] * Set by spank!~spank@69-171-236-93.clspco.adelphia.net on Tue Sep 05 15:21:40
[06:03] <Pantern> Is it possible to show only the first characters in a string kept in a sql
[06:04] <Arrakis> yes
[06:04] <Arrakis> you can often times use a left function
[06:04] <Arrakis> to grab what you need
[06:04] <Arrakis> like LEFT(COlumnName, numberofcharacterstoshow)
[06:04] <Pantern> cool, could you point me to a webpage explaining this in detail
[06:06] <Arrakis> what database are you using?
[06:06] <Pantern> SQlite
[06:08] * Rife is now known as Sojada
[06:09] * Sojada is now known as Rife
[06:09] <Arrakis> i dont see it listed unfortunatley
[06:09] <Arrakis> http://www.sqlite.org/docs.html
[06:09] <Arrakis> theres the documentation for it
[06:09] <Arrakis> but it might not
[06:09] <Arrakis> i'd try doig a
[06:09] <Arrakis> select left(columnname, 1) from tablename
[06:09] <Arrakis> and see if it bitches at you
[06:09] <Pantern> Thanx Arrakis =)
[06:12] <Iteki> i got a little "tooltip" css thing going on. if it is near the side of the pa
[06:12] <Arrakis> get a better script
[06:13] <Pantern> syntax error :(
[06:14] <Arrakis> yeah
[06:15] <Arrakis> figured if i didnt see it in their list it wasnt supported
[06:15] <Arrakis> oh well
[06:15] <Arrakis> i guess you have to do it in your applicaiton
[06:15] <Arrakis> soi look for a left function in your programming lnaguage
[06:16] <Iteki> thanks for the tip Arrakis, i will.
[06:19] <Pantern> I use php, you wouldn't by any chance know a function I can use? If not, yo
[06:19] * Rife is now known as Sojada
[06:19] * Rifest is now known as Rife
[06:24] <strategy> Pantern???
[06:32] <Pantern> yes
[06:33] <strategy> what was the original question?
[06:34] <Pantern> If there is a function in SQLite that makes it possible to show the first c
[06:35] <strategy> ah... why not just truncate it in PHP?
[06:36] <Fuzzy76> yes
[06:36] <Pantern> yes, I'm trying to figure that out as we speak
[06:36] <Fuzzy76> substr(inputstring, 0, numberofchars)
[06:36] <Fuzzy76> http://www.sqlite.org/lang_expr.html
[06:36] <Fuzzy76> it took me 4 seconds of googling
[06:38] <Pantern> impressive.. I better practise my serching skills..
[06:38] <Pantern> What did you search for?
[06:39] <Fuzzy76> Googled "sqlite", "syntax" in menu, "expression" in the list. There you are
[06:39] <Fuzzy76> Googled "sqlite", clicked on first result, "syntax" in menu, "expression" i
[06:40] <Pantern> oh well, that embarassing.. thanks anyway
[06:41] <trovster> It's amazing the amount of people who can't do basic searches.
[06:45] <Pantern> trovster: its not the just the search, but the amount of time that is spent
[06:46] <trovster> heh
[06:49] <Pantern> strategy: not an excuse, its the truth..
[06:49] <strategy> man, another norwegian...
[06:49] <strategy> do they churn you guys out in some sort of cloning machine?
[06:49] <strategy> b/c 95% of norwegians online have identical personalities.
[06:53] <Fuzzy76> sure
[06:53] <Pantern> hmm.. I find that hard to believe
[06:53] <Pantern> Do you mean that we ask the same stupid questions?
[06:55] <strategy> no, you all have the same attitudes.
[06:57] <Fuzzy76> heh
[06:57] <Pantern> really.. what kind of attitudes?
[06:58] <Fuzzy76> So I have an attitude because I want a way to create elastic layout with sc
[06:58] <strategy> it's hard to explain, but there's a definite country wide attitude...
[07:00] <Fuzzy76> Well, to be honest, you might have a point in there somewhere... I've seen
[07:00] <strategy> call it, flagrant obstinance.
[07:01] <Pantern> hehe.. thats hilarious
[07:02] <Fuzzy76> pantern, try joining #quake and see what happens ;)
[07:02] <Fuzzy76> auto-kick on *.no :p
[07:02] <Fuzzy76> I'm blaming it on too easy access to broadband.
[07:04] <Fuzzy76> *away*
[07:04] <Pantern> well, usually I think most people like to find answers by themselves. Readi
[07:06] <Pantern> I guess it really doesn't matter.. Later guys =)
[08:18] * strategy- is now known as strategy
[08:19] <rhelik> heya stra
[08:21] <strategy> sup?
[08:21] <rhelik> nada
[08:21] <rhelik> had an interview with a contracting company yesteyday, it went very well
[08:23] <strategy> cool.
[08:24] <rhelik> i have to schedule an interview with the client/vendor soon
[08:24] <rhelik> I already have 2 ppl on site that recommended me, so I'm not worried about g
[08:25] <DonkeyPL> How can I get textarea to display < as < and not as < ?
[08:26] <rhelik> &lt; maybe
[08:26] <rhelik> yup that works
[08:27] <DonkeyPL> thank you :)
[08:27] <DonkeyPL> what else does this stupid thing not display properly? :)
[08:28] <snig> Which "developer toolbar" do you recommend for internet explorer? I want to in
[08:28] <strategy> snig, I don't know that there is one.
[08:29] <rhelik> MS has a good one
[08:29] <snig> rhelik, I'll check it out.
[08:29] <rhelik> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-
[08:30] <rhelik> I'm guessing it was a project of the IE team and obviously IE7 took priority
[08:34] <snig> It seems alright
[08:54] <FlyByNigh> how do i remove the space around a table itself such as get it to be in t
[09:00] <FlyByNigh> any thoughts?
[09:01] <snig> set margin to 0px in the style. Maybe you also need to set padding of the body
[09:01] <trovster> 0px == 0% == 0pt == 0em -- you know?
[09:02] <trovster> * {margin: 0; padding: 0;}
[09:25] * nessa is now known as ness
[10:27] <rhelik> If I put up a flash video on a webpage, are there any problems setting the w
[10:30] <strategy> no.
[10:30] <strategy> though it'll probably look like crap.
[10:31] <rhelik> well you can often double the ratio and still get decent visuals in video, a
[10:37] <rhelik> any apps besides Macromedia's that I can use to convert a video file into a
[10:38] <rhelik> and don't be a smartass and say Google Video :P
[10:38] <trovster> Adobe's?
[10:40] <trovster> uh-o
[11:04] <favicon> do any elements force text to do word wrap without any spaces?
[11:06] <amir11> hey. i got a problem. google cannot read my website because im putting a coo
[11:14] <rhelik> amir11: if that cookie is not available, take the user to a default page
[11:14] <rhelik> if your page REQUIRES a cookie to view a site, get the fuck off the internet
[11:15] <rhelik> unless it's a madatory login
[11:27] <happydude> haha
[11:35] <Fuzzy76> I agree with rhelik :)
[11:38] <rhelik> let's vote him offer the internet, anybody second it?
[11:38] <Fuzzy76> *raises hand* :p
[11:39] <strategy> norwegians don't get to vote.
[11:40] <rhelik> it still counts
[11:41] <rhelik> mostly he's kicked for not fucking talking after asking a question
[11:41] <rhelik> I hate that stuff
[11:45] <Fuzzy76> strategy has his monthlies. september to be ecact. :p
[11:47] <Fuzzy76> I thought I was excused for being norwegian :p
[11:48] <strategy> There is no excuse for being norwegian.
[11:50] <chino> can somebody from #webdesign ask why I'm banned?
[11:50] <chino> It happened while I was idling, apparently
[11:51] <chino> I've done nothing but help in that channel :0
[11:53] <rhelik> hmm I can't find the ban
[11:54] <rhelik> is it a bot ban? can you join now?
[11:54] <chino> I'll try
[11:54] <strategy> yeah, I don't see it either.
[11:54] <chino> [13:54] #webdesign unable to join channel (address is banned)
[11:54] <chino> :/
[11:54] <rhelik> found it
[11:54] <strategy> #webdesign *!*@*67*22* set by Arrakis!googled@adsl-69-150-140-246.dsl.hstn
[11:54] <strategy> yeah, he over banned.
[11:55] <strategy> removed.
[11:55] <rhelik> I was just about to remove it
[11:55] <rhelik> wtf is with all those whacky bans
[11:55] <chino> thanks :D
[11:55] <rhelik> way too many clients those could ban
[11:55] <strategy> now join so I can give you a proper ban.
[11:55] <rhelik> ha!
[11:55] <Fuzzy76> that was an increidbly bad ban :p
[12:16] <ventoo> hi
[12:16] <ventoo> anyone use a mac?
[12:23] <rhelik> own a mac, yes, use it, no
[12:24] <rhelik> a coworker switched back to Mac after I left a job
[12:24] <ventoo> just wondering if web pages look a lot different on a mac than a pc
[12:24] <rhelik> then your question is, does Safari look diff... overall no
[12:24] <rhelik> Safari has great font rendering though
[12:25] <rhelik> which is the reason IE7 forces ClearType, even if you have it off
[12:25] <ventoo> ahh
[12:26] <Fuzzy76> The only stuff that generally looks different are fonts (and in some cases
[12:27] <ventoo> thanks
[12:29] <ventoo> probably stick with pc, I just get tempted by mac every so often for a chang
[12:29] <rhelik> considering there's a beta app that lets you execute Win programs /wo bootca
[12:31] <ventoo> yeah
[12:31] <rhelik> but going back a step, I hear somebody has an app that runs XP natively, in
[12:32] <rhelik> no VMing, so you get full speed
[12:32] <rhelik> but I need per app execution before I could switch
[12:32] <rhelik> even though it would create way more overhead
[12:42] * sephturia is now known as sephi\aw
[12:42] <ventoo> thanks
[12:47] <ChrisF-> hello, I have a rounded corner question regarding photoshop... perhaps some
[12:47] <ChrisF-> quick question... I made a grey background, then used the rectangular sele
[12:48] <strategy> #photoshop
[12:49] <rhelik> ChrisF-: did you turn on aliasing on your selections?
[12:49] <ChrisF-> no, I was looking for that... wehre do I do that?
[12:50] <rhelik> well if it's Photoshop CS it's right in tho top toolbar, should be under "Vi
[12:50] <rhelik> oh, it's not available for square selections
[12:55] <choizy> When I print an image with the <img> tag there is a space outside the
[12:55] <choizy> annyone know howto remove it ?
[12:56] <choizy> The image is a link
[12:57] <rhelik> <img style="margin 0px;" />
[13:15] <strategy> choizy, display:block;
[13:40] <Scrambly> This website I'm working on has a common banner and menu at the top of eve
[13:47] <Stingray_> most compatible with what?
[13:47] <Stingray_> is the rest of the page generated by PHP too?
[13:48] <Scrambly> compatible with most browsers, I guess is what I meant. The rest of the s
[13:48] <panacea_> moo!!!!!!
[13:48] <panacea_> hey, aren't there websites out there where people post projects and you ca
[13:48] <Stingray_> you would want to do the inclusion on the server side, so the browser jus
[13:49] <Stingray_> rentacoder.com
[13:49] <panacea_> sweet
[13:49] <panacea_> do any sites focus more on design?
[13:49] <Stingray_> so you could use PHP for that, yes. at any rate, the compatibility should
[13:49] <Stingray_> I don't know
[13:57] <spank> panacea_: try elance.com
[13:57] <spank> rentacoder is gay
[13:57] <happydude> is elance still full of indians?
[13:57] <panacea_> hi spanK!!!!
[13:57] <panacea_> i live in seattle now!
[13:58] <choizy> I'm having a problem with a 1px space under Hjem on this page: http://www.gh
[13:58] <Scrambly> Stingray_ : thanks for the help, that's what I'll do!
[13:58] <Scrambly> panacea_ : guru.com might be what you're looking for
[13:59] <panacea_> sweet!
[13:59] <panacea_> thanks guys
[14:00] <panacea_> i gotta run
[14:00] <strategy> choizy, style="display:block;"
[14:00] <panacea_> my real estate agent is gonna show me houses!
[14:00] <panacea_> bye
[14:11] <ChrisF-> newbie question but in a document if I have <ul id="toprightnav">, ho
[14:14] <GenteYa> hi
[14:14] <GenteYa> is it possible to set a border only for a row ?
[14:21] <ChrisF-> tr { border:1px solid #000; }
[14:21] <ChrisF-> try that
[14:24] <GenteYa> nop
[14:29] <GenteYa> ah ok ;)
[14:29] <GenteYa> without ; between 1px and solud
[14:29] <GenteYa> solid*
[14:31] <GenteYa> does it only work for TD? can it work for a row ?
[14:53] <Lingo> Can i use any other command then <br> for getting a break row?
[14:53] <Lingo> i can see my <br> in the source code but my browser ignores it
[14:53] <Macca> <div>..</div>
[14:53] <Lingo> firefox doesnt but i does
[14:53] <Lingo> didnt work either Macca
[14:53] <Lingo> :/
[14:54] * Macca shrugs
[15:09] <hehjokl> I am trying to add input fields in a registration form but only the first v
[15:33] <strategy> hehjokl, how do you know it's only outputting the first one?
[15:36] * sephi\aw is now known as sephturia
[15:45] <choizy> strategy: Think he left or something. Tried to tell him that on efnet as wel
[16:45] <Kellandes> wow, aLOT more people on this server
[16:45] <Kellandes> maybe I can get some help here, woot!
[16:46] <Kellandes> Question is this - can I stop SIDE SCROLLING in an iframe, but still reta
[16:46] <EpsilonX> StoneCybh : you never sleep heh ?
[16:46] <strategy-> no
[16:46] <strategy-> Kellandes, no.
[16:46] <Kellandes> ...oh no, really?
[16:46] <strategy-> really.
[16:46] <Kellandes> that bites
[16:46] <strategy-> it's either all or nothing.
[16:46] <Kellandes> thx tho
[16:46] <strategy-> yeah, so don't use iframes.
[16:47] <Kellandes> i like iframes tho
[16:47] <strategy-> are you just using them to swap out content on your site or something?
[16:47] <Kellandes> yup
[16:47] <strategy-> terrible.
[16:47] <Kellandes> why?
[16:47] <strategy-> use server-side includes.
[16:47] <Kellandes> I am using css tho?
[16:48] <strategy-> CSS has nothing to do with server-side includes.
[16:48] <Kellandes> oh my bad
[16:48] <Kellandes> then, what is server-side?
[16:48] <strategy-> before it reaches the browser the page is assembled on the server.
[16:48] <strategy-> so you would use something like PHP to include the content.
[16:48] <strategy-> that way you link to actual pages rather than just refreshing an iframe.
[16:48] <Kellandes> Oh, ok... well, I dunno if my host will allow php
[16:48] <Kellandes> Im using googlepages.com - its free, and easy to use.
[16:48] <strategy-> nevermind.
[16:49] <EpsilonX> i have a question in ASP... that in chan ASP noone answer
[16:50] <EpsilonX> if i have the folowing construct :
[16:50] <EpsilonX> set rs=server.createobject("adodb.recordset")
[16:50] <EpsilonX> response.redirect "default.asp"
[16:50] <EpsilonX> set rs=nothing
[16:50] <EpsilonX> will the server delete the Recordset ??? if Yes... When ???
[16:51] <EpsilonX> :(
[16:51] <choizy> EpsilonX: This is just a guess but when the page is finished loading I think
[16:51] <choizy> that is if its not a session variable
[16:51] <choizy> but not familiar with asp so its just a guess
[16:52] <EpsilonX> choizy: though response.redirect "" happens on the Server side
[16:52] <EpsilonX> i guess same as you ... but aint sure
[16:52] <Kellandes> Ooh, I get what server side means now !
[16:52] <EpsilonX> and if it isn't that ... maybe a Garbage collector
[16:53] <choizy> yeah that might be
[16:53] <strategy-> EpsilonX, you don't want to use garbage collection
[16:53] <strategy-> always kill your own objects.
[16:53] <choizy> but set rs=nothing isn't the same as deleting it
[16:53] <strategy-> choizy, no shit.
[16:53] <strategy-> the point is if you use redirect the page stops processing unless you spe
[16:54] <choizy> ok. thought it was the other way around
[16:54] <EpsilonX> strategy- : i just think i am losing the refrence to those objects
[16:54] <EpsilonX> strategy- : how do i tell it not to stop processing ...
[16:54] <choizy> but as I said. Im only guessing. not an asp guy
[16:55] <EpsilonX> till now i just done response.write "<script>window.location='fgsdj
[16:55] <EpsilonX> but it is an ugly way to do it
[16:55] <Kellandes> Why is it, when an iFRAME, if I dont have any text proceeding to the side
[16:55] <strategy-> ah, n/m... apparently vbscript doesn't support an option to continue proc
[16:56] <strategy-> EpsilonX, you should write your own garbage collectiona nd call it.
[16:56] <choizy> Kellandes: Iframes actioaly kinda sux.
[16:56] <choizy> it's not often I would recomend using them
[16:56] <Kellandes> what would u recommand
[16:57] <EpsilonX> outch ...
[16:57] <choizy> same as strategy did
[16:57] <EpsilonX> strategy- : dont IIS have a Garbage colector ?
[16:57] <choizy> or just without iframes
[16:58] <strategy-> EpsilonX, sure, but you shouldn't rely on it.
[16:58] <strategy-> Kellandes, because scrolling is either all on, or all off.
[16:58] <EpsilonX> but i am too lazy =) <<<<<
[16:58] * EpsilonX looks down disapointed to hear the truth
[16:58] <Kellandes> darnit...
[16:59] <Kellandes> ya just cant win
[17:01] <strategy-> Kellandes, so just make a bunch of individual pges.
[17:01] <EpsilonX> Kellandes : if you use scrolling="auto"
[17:01] <EpsilonX> and make sure the src wont exceed the Width of the iFrame...
[17:01] <EpsilonX> you wont have a Bottom Scroller
[17:01] <Kellandes> Thats what i was hopin :)
[17:02] <EpsilonX> <iframe scrolling="auto" style="width:800px" src="http://www.google.com
[17:02] <EpsilonX> will be only Vert Scroll
[17:02] <EpsilonX> remmember the </iframe>
[17:02] <Kellandes> yay fanx
[17:03] <EpsilonX> np
[17:03] <EpsilonX> i go to sleep...
[17:03] <EpsilonX> i got a Wiecked physics exam tomorrow...
[17:03] <EpsilonX> Death to Koriolis !
[17:04] <EpsilonX> oops... already dead
[17:04] <EpsilonX> kill his precidants
[17:05] <EpsilonX> BBye all
[17:27] * [martin] is now known as martinkb
[17:58] <|ssss|> any good free html editors?
[17:59] <martinkb> notepad2
[18:02] <|ssss|> wysiwyg?
[18:02] <martinkb> no
[18:02] <|ssss|> is there one
[18:02] <martinkb> no wysiwyg editor is good
[18:03] <|ssss|> why not
[18:03] <martinkb> they don't output valid, semantic code
[18:04] <martinkb> http://www.standards-schmandards.com/index.php?2006/03/03/36-wysiwyg-edito
[18:05] <martinkb> "TinyMCE scored best among the open source editors."
[18:05] <martinkb> 13 out of 19
[18:08] <|ssss|> lame.. this one i downloaded doesn't even support forms
[18:09] <martinkb> hmm...
[18:12] <martinkb> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/
[18:21] <martinkb> best i can find
[18:37] * b`ki is now known as boki
[18:59] <Goose-BA> how can i make a http page secure, so it has the little lock at the bottom
[19:12] <VectorX> hey dave
[19:12] <DaveDB> hey vector
[19:21] * kbmartin is now known as martinkb
[19:24] * VectorX slaps <DaveDB> with a large dingy
[19:25] * borteseph is now known as sephturia
[19:26] <DaveDB> i was born with it
[19:26] <Arrakis> .
[19:34] * hired- is now known as hired
[20:38] * cody3 is now known as macmacm
[20:38] * macmacm is now known as cody4
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[21:08] <Drexxle> guys im using an imagemap for a country/region map selector, ive got it run
[21:09] <Drexxle> all i can find are swapimage code for rollovers, i dont want to create a se
[21:33] <Scrambly> how does one align a photo to the bottom right of a paragraph and have th
[21:33] <Scrambly> I betcha this is so easy but I'm thinking too hard about it
[21:33] <Scrambly> oh, and the image might not be aligned with the top of a new paragraph eit
[21:37] <happydude> float it
[21:41] <Scrambly> I thought that would be the answer, so I did "float: left;" but I'm not su
[21:42] <Scrambly> like, aligned with the bottom of the div that it's in
[22:22] * JeffS is now known as Hairy
Session Close: Thu Sep 07 00:00:00 2006