Session Start: Wed Feb 13 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:00] <Lindy_> keep your fucking flood nets out of here!
[00:00] <et_> i never flooded here lindy
[00:00] <Lindy_> bull shit
[00:00] <et_> thats not my style
[00:00] <Lindy_> lets see
[00:00] <Lindy_> your host
[00:00] <Lindy_> your bots
[00:00] <Lindy_> DOH!
[00:00] <et_> i let someone use my shell i shouldnt have
[00:00] <et_> they wont use it again
[00:00] <Lindy_> I DONT CARE!
[00:00] <et_> problem solved
[00:01] <Lindy_> if I even so much as see them join here I will perm ban them AND you!
[00:01] <et_> okay fair enough
[00:01] <et_> sorry about that
[00:01] <prime38> Lindy_: no swearing
[00:01] <Lindy_> prime38
[00:01] <Lindy_> fuck off
[00:01] <et_> i didnt mean for that to happen
[00:01] <prime38> :o
[00:02] <et_> i said sorry
[00:02] <et_> that was not my intentions
[00:02] <Lindy_> sorry doesnt cut it
[00:02] <et_> what happened
[00:02] <Lindy_> you have said that to me way too many times
[00:03] <tractus> et_: i am familiar wtih device manager...how do i, precisely, determine the
[00:03] <tractus> using*
[00:04] <et_> right click device and properties maybe
[00:04] <et_> i am not certain i dont have a win os atm handy
[00:05] <tractus> well clearly..the device manager is not going to show me the COM port
[00:06] <tractus> just the system resources
[00:06] <et_> what about looking at com ports via device manager
[00:06] <et_> it will show you that
[00:06] <et_> hmm
[00:06] <et_> okay i follow
[00:06] <et_> would there be a catagory for it under control panel?
[00:07] <et_> i never used one
[00:07] <tractus> im basically playing around with the IR port on my laptop to use it as a un
[00:07] <tractus> just for fun
[00:07] <Torob> i have a nokia 6265i phone, and i bought a 2gb mini sd card for it off ebay..
[00:08] <Torob> i was thinking of giving the card back but since the nokia software worked fi
[00:09] <Torob> the connection between my phone and computer is a CA-53 cable which makes tra
[00:09] <Torob> any ideas?
[00:11] <blc> Torob: you're most likely better off just formatting it in the laptop reader..
[00:11] <Torob> blc: i still get the error through laptop reader
[00:11] <blc> Torob: just format it to FAT32.. that should be readable by the phone
[00:12] <blc> ah.. then the card is defective
[00:12] <Torob> blc: yeah that gives error too..
[00:12] <Torob> blc: but it works fine on the phone and nokia software..
[00:12] <blc> hmm.. is this a SDHC version?
[00:12] <Torob> im not sure
[00:12] <Torob> how can i find that if needed.
[00:12] <blc> then your reader might be too old
[00:13] <tractus> argh im annoyed
[00:13] <blc> not sure.. haven't looked at one physically
[00:13] <tractus> how can i create a bootable dvd
[00:13] <tractus> i dont have any cd-rs
[00:13] <tractus> or floppys
[00:13] <blc> i just know they updated the SD standard to accomodate more than 2 GB capacity,
[00:13] <Torob> blc: but how come through my phone, when i set it to a storage device, window
[00:13] <blc> tractus: google for bootdisk, download the image
[00:14] <tractus> im trying to make a custom one
[00:14] <blc> Torob: your pc is weird?
[00:14] <Kasino> i used nti version 4.something to make a backup image of my drives files, no
[00:14] <blc> i have no idea
[00:14] <Torob> blc: 2 different pc's, i doubt its me..
[00:14] <tractus> specifically i am trying to do this http://www.selen.org/sonydvd.html witha
[00:15] <blc> Torob: well.. something doesn't add up on your systems.. i have neither a nokia
[00:15] <Torob> tractus: some motherboards support USB removable devices..
[00:15] <Torob> blc: okay thanks for your help
[00:15] <tractus> i cant find my thumb drive :(
[00:15] <Torob> anyone else have any ideas ont his problem?
[00:16] <P51L0Cy83> why cant my new ipod run linux and why does it play less games... frustra
[00:16] <Kasino> i used nti version 4.something to make a backup image of my drives files, no
[00:16] <tractus> P51L0Cy83: which ipod is it
[00:16] <P51L0Cy83> ipod classic
[00:16] <P51L0Cy83> 6th gen
[00:17] <tractus> so the 'newest' ?
[00:17] <P51L0Cy83> 5th gen can run linux and other software
[00:17] <P51L0Cy83> yes
[00:17] <tractus> i could be wrong, but i'm not sure there is a port for the 6th gen yet
[00:17] <P51L0Cy83> it seems its less powerfull then the 5th gen
[00:17] <P51L0Cy83> i havent been able to find anything for the 6th gen ipod
[00:17] <P51L0Cy83> everything i find is for the 5th gen :S
[00:18] <tractus> yea =/
[00:18] <tractus> it'll probably be like that for a little while
[00:18] <P51L0Cy83> i found so many apps and linux versions for the ipod
[00:18] <P51L0Cy83> different games
[00:18] <P51L0Cy83> none for the 5th gen
[00:18] <P51L0Cy83> i dont there will be a linux for the 6th gen
[00:18] <tractus> there will be
[00:18] <P51L0Cy83> if u go in the itunes store, the ipod classic cant play all games
[00:19] <prime38> you could develope one
[00:19] <tractus> someone will develop one
[00:19] <P51L0Cy83> it seems its less powerfull
[00:19] <P51L0Cy83> well i cant code :P
[00:19] <P51L0Cy83> if i could i would make one lol
[00:20] * tractus has never been as frustrated with a peripheral as he is with the IrDA port!
[00:26] <MaD^CiTy> Bought a Presario V3000 ,AMD 1.9GHz RAM 959 MB, 160 GB. And i wonder its t
[00:29] <blc> compared to what?
[00:30] <MaD^CiTy> do i need upgrade 1Gb RAM ?
[00:31] <blc> if you run XP, and don't use intensive software, no.. if you use vista, regardl
[00:31] <MaD^CiTy> I'm using Vista Home version
[00:32] <MaD^CiTy> Actually, I'm new to laptop :(
[00:32] <blc> vista is useless on laptops..
[00:32] <blc> makes it incredibly slow
[00:32] <MaD^CiTy> So should i use XP
[00:33] <blc> if you can, yes.. it would work better on those specs
[00:33] <MaD^CiTy> And one more Upset news for me
[00:34] <MaD^CiTy> they only gave me free train of workoffice, powerpoint only for 30 days...
[00:34] <Torob> whats best brand of MiniSD cards? SanDisk, Kingston etc.
[00:35] <MaD^CiTy> I use Kingston :)
[00:38] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:47] <Torob> micro not same as mini sd right?
[00:47] <prime38> correct
[00:48] <Torob> hmm there is a 1gb kingston for 14 bucks.. but i was thinkin along the lines
[00:53] <prime38> what is this dcc exploit
[01:00] <loh> hey, i just updated my machine, and its windows vista, and i got this error aft
[01:00] <loh> any idea?
[01:01] <prime38> you could go to the services manager and start the service
[01:01] <prime38> or reboot again
[01:02] <loh> i tried rebooting it and still
[01:03] <prime38> can you start the service?
[01:03] <loh> what's the service name though?
[01:03] <loh> ah
[01:03] <loh> SENS
[01:03] <prime38> system event notification service
[01:04] <loh> but task manager is saying that that shit is running
[01:04] <prime38> strange
[01:05] <prime38> sometimes it seems weird errors like that go away on their own
[01:05] <cypha> i jsut read ur last comment, but maybe it's taking longer to close?
[01:05] <prime38> sometimes not...
[01:06] <loh> fuckin windows :/
[01:06] <prime38> xp is great
[01:06] <loh> i know, it came with my laptop
[01:06] <cypha> i need to get x64
[01:06] <prime38> vista is losing all their field they gained with vista
[01:06] <prime38> err, microsoft is
[01:07] <MaD^CiTy> Is Vista more advantage than XP ?
[01:08] <prime38> at this point, i feel it is
[01:08] <prime38> runs on lesser hardware
[01:08] <blc> other way around.. xp is more advantage than vista
[01:08] <prime38> and i dont really know of any vista only programs that are xp killers
[01:08] <cypha> vista needs less hardware than xp?
[01:09] <prime38> i meant xp is more advantageous
[01:09] <blc> vista needs ALOT more hardware than xp
[01:09] <cypha> but everyone complained about xp when it was about this age too
[01:09] <blc> cypha: only big difference is that vista isn't needed by anyone..
[01:09] <cypha> but the bugs don't seem to be going away with any of the os's
[01:09] <cypha> neither is xp
[01:09] <blc> they created the need by forcing dx10 to be vista only
[01:09] <cypha> u can always use a dif version
[01:10] <blc> actually.. XP did fill a gap..
[01:10] <blc> it had a market.. vista doesn't
[01:10] <prime38> will dx10 be cracked?
[01:10] <prime38> i think yes
[01:10] <blc> cracked?
[01:10] <prime38> to run on xp
[01:10] <blc> not likely
[01:10] <cypha> blc: what gap did xp fill?
[01:11] <MaD^CiTy> From where i can get code for powerpoint and ms office ?
[01:11] <cypha> so u can edit the code?
[01:11] <cypha> opensource?
[01:11] <MaD^CiTy> yes
[01:11] <blc> cypha: don't have all the exact details in my head, but XP opened up functions
[01:11] <cypha> or for macros?
[01:12] <cypha> yeah, a 3 legged chair is more stable than me
[01:12] <cypha> ME
[01:12] <MaD^CiTy> they gave only 30 days
[01:12] <blc> cypha: and considering several businesses used still used win98 when it was rel
[01:12] <cypha> mad^: no idea
[01:12] <blc> still used*
[01:12] <cypha> they still use win98
[01:13] <blc> not the ones i've talked to
[01:13] <MaD^CiTy> I can't about to use MS office and powerpoint. Vista sucks.
[01:13] <MaD^CiTy> able-
[01:31] <Torob> vista is equivalent to win ME
[01:31] <Torob> so dont worry
[01:38] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:39] <Dupper> I think my video card is defective because polygons are warped and tearing(n
[01:40] <intx> probably. got a temp sensor?
[01:40] <intx> could also be the fan dying/overheating/insulated in dust
[01:40] <intx> how old is the card?
[01:40] <intx> if it's less than 3 years old, sounds more like a temperature problem
[01:40] <intx> if it's brand new, sounds defective
[01:43] <intx> ouch. and haha.
[01:44] <intx> aces lost to 46. that's what he gets for limping aces :P
[01:44] <Dupper> It's old.
[01:44] <Dupper> 2004 old.
[01:45] <_matt_> anyone know how to run windows installer on vista in safe mode?
[01:45] <intx> sounds like it's about time you replace it anyway :p
[01:45] <blc> Dupper: then the fan on it most likely doesn't work any longer
[01:50] <Dupper> Ok
[01:50] <Dupper> I'll switch up to a 2600HD then
[01:51] <Dupper> that seems to be the fastest AGP card left.
[01:51] <Dupper> my CPU's pretty weak so even that is alittle too much but why not
[01:51] <Dupper> btw do games offer a resolution of 960x600 so you can run a game on a 1920x1
[01:51] <Dupper> that would just be pixel doubling...
[01:52] <Dupper> Well I hope they do :) Thanks, I'll look into the replacement
[01:53] <ceph> what's good @ pf changs?
[01:53] <blc> ceph: care to elaborate that question a little more?
[01:59] <john-john> is there a program that let's you mark up a PDF book like a regular book
[02:01] <jackal^> html anyone?
[02:02] <rav0> what's up?
[02:02] <jackal^> i have favicon as jpg, is it good?
[02:03] <blc> no
[02:03] <rav0> best format is ico. some browsers accept jpeg anyway, but png is better if you
[02:03] <rav0> ico > png > jpg
[02:03] <blc> png format with .ico ending is the preferred format
[02:03] <jackal^> where gif take place?
[02:03] <rav0> what's the point of png file names as ico
[02:03] <blc> don't know.. just know it works..
[02:03] <rav0> gif is last, because gif is always last
[02:04] <blc> i've had issues with naming it .png
[02:04] <john-john> is there a program that let's you mark up a PDF book like a regular book
[02:04] <jackal^> so if rename .jpg to .ico will work?
[02:04] <blc> and solved them by renaming to .ico
[02:04] <blc> jackal^: not necesraily.. not all browsers/servers support .jpg in favicon
[02:04] <rav0> it'll probably work, but you're better off with a png (best is still to use a
[02:06] <MaD^CiTy> what is OlsenTwins
[02:06] <jackal^> k, one more: is it good if the image size is bigger than 16 px ?
[02:06] <blc> jackal^: no
[02:06] <blc> MaD^CiTy: wikipedia will answer that one
[02:07] <jackal^> but the server/browser resize it?
[02:07] <MaD^CiTy> i think its a state name
[02:07] <blc> state name?
[02:08] <MaD^CiTy> OlsenTwins
[02:08] <rav0> it's best to use a proper ico with 16x16, 32x32, 128x128. if you use a big jpg
[02:08] <rav0> Olsen twins are two people. Mary-Kate Olsen and Ashley Olsen.
[02:08] <jackal^> i see
[02:08] <blc> MaD^CiTy: all i know about that name is that it's the name of a channel here on
[02:08] <jackal^> thanks for the help guys
[02:09] <MaD^CiTy> whats Olsen Twins.
[02:10] <MaD^CiTy> tv show
[02:11] <MaD^CiTy> got it, thanks
[02:24] <h00zrdady> heh im gonna try to get video of my lasik procedure
[02:24] <h00zrdady> woot
[02:40] <john-john> four eye
[02:40] <h00zrdady> john-john: hehe
[02:40] <h00zrdady> u know who this is
[02:44] <shabi> hi
[03:58] <Champ0ne> help
[03:59] <souji> topic
[03:59] <blc> heh
[04:00] <souji> hey blc :)
[04:00] <blc> yo
[04:08] <Samwell> is there an easy way to debug DOS programs that run in mode 13h
[04:08] <dev_> My girlfriend's best friend told me this morning on IM that my voice makes her
[04:09] <Samwell> thats a tough one
[04:10] <ducch> dev_ that she wanted to be rooted :X?
[04:10] <ducch> wants*
[04:10] <ducch> she wants you to compile her with --firewall=on :X?
[04:11] <dev_> wat
[04:11] <Samwell> shoulda said "err you can hear my IMs??"
[04:12] <et_> its prolly a trap
[04:12] <Samwell> good call et
[04:12] <dev_> she wanted me to call her and i kept saying no but she wouldn't give up so i a
[04:12] <et_> just tell her your gf is the only one for you
[04:13] <et_> and you love her too much to ever fool around
[04:13] <Samwell> im goin with et women do stuff like that
[04:13] <Samwell> also id say what et is saying
[04:13] <Samwell> cant lose either way (wether shes testing you or she's for real) ... unless
[04:14] <et_> then she will tell either way too
[04:14] <et_> so you lose ya gf either way
[04:14] <et_> is it worth it
[04:14] <et_> prolly not keep ya gf
[04:14] <Samwell> words of wisom et
[04:15] <Samwell> wisdom...
[04:15] <et_> yeah i been thru it plenty
[04:15] <et_> lol
[04:15] <et_> but its easier to learn thru someone elses mistakes
[04:15] <Samwell> true
[04:15] <Samwell> well we narrowed it down for ya
[04:17] <dev_> ok ty
[04:21] <et_> ohhh
[04:21] <et_> and by the way whats this girls number?
[04:22] <dev_> 281-330-8004
[04:23] <et_> i was kidding
[04:23] <et_> geez
[04:23] <jackal^> lol
[04:25] <dev_> oh
[04:26] <gaurev> whoa, i used to live in that area
[04:26] <gaurev> sugarland, tx right?
[04:27] <Samwell> ill guess rhode island =p
[04:29] <blc> dev_: you should never reveal private information like that online.. :P
[04:30] <dev_> it's just her cell phone not her home phone :)
[04:30] <blc> as if that's any better..
[04:31] <blc> you know this channel is filled with hormonal geeks.. big chances one of them m
[04:31] <et_> ^^
[04:33] <dev_> most ppl on irc are lonely nerds, i doubt anybody would have the guts to call
[04:33] <ducch> lol
[04:33] <ducch> dont dare them
[04:44] <That1Guy> Is there a channel ont his network that can help me with a law problem?
[04:49] * That1Guy is now known as D3xtrose
[04:59] <Jumpie> so like...is this nwe firefox update gonna sto the mem leak? :D
[04:59] <blc> they still haven't fixed that?
[04:59] <Jumpie> crap dude i think its been like 50 fixes and still not lol
[04:59] <D3xtrose> Chances are they'll end up ca,ling it fixed by plugging hte leak with a ma
[05:00] <blc> no wonder i keep using Opera
[05:03] <U4YA> guys, why can't I type in languages other than English in Foxit Reader ?
[05:04] <D3xtrose> There's languages other than english?
[05:05] <U4YA> not many
[05:06] <dev_> Jumpie: how much memory do you have?
[05:09] * krisp is now known as |||||||
[05:10] * ||||||| is now known as krisp
[05:18] <blc> D3xtrose: that's ignorant... you know there are other languages.. most of the u
[05:21] * D3xtrose shrugs
[05:22] <Jumpie> memory i have gig
[05:22] <Jumpie> but it'll just leak to like 220mb sometimes
[05:31] <McGuire> i've got some 5.1 speakers and when I set up my vista system to use them I
[05:38] <axel> anyone know outlook extremely well?
[05:38] <imafrog> abit
[05:38] <axel> enough with vba? or pulling signatures from a different source then appdata?
[05:39] <imafrog> why dont you just create a sig ?
[05:40] <axel> because we have forced signatures that clear them every time you log in
[05:41] <axel> so if i can get outlook to insert a signature from another source then this mi
[05:41] <imafrog> so you gonne pull a sig everytime you log in?
[05:41] <imafrog> copy and paste :P
[05:41] <axel> well right now it does and overwrites any sigs in the appdata folder
[05:41] <axel> i want a quick way :)
[05:42] <axel> like a vba script or another way to pull a sig in
[05:43] <axel> scared him away
[05:43] <HoRnEyDvL> hi guys any 1 good with vista problems?
[05:44] <imafrog> yeap
[05:44] <HoRnEyDvL> i installed the latest updates
[05:44] <imafrog> ok
[05:44] <HoRnEyDvL> computer restarted loadings creen comes up then monitor turns off like go
[05:44] <imafrog> ok
[05:44] <imafrog> err
[05:45] <imafrog> maybe a corrpt system file
[05:45] <HoRnEyDvL> u hear windoes log in, When i remote into my computer i can see desktop &
[05:45] <imafrog> you delete anything?
[05:45] <HoRnEyDvL> When deleting video driver Boots up fine using default Install latest nvi
[05:45] <D3xtrose> O-o
[05:45] <Thumper_> HoRnEyDvL: Try to boot windows in safe mode, or try a system restore throu
[05:46] <HoRnEyDvL> yeah safe mode boots
[05:46] <HoRnEyDvL> Even deleting teh driver boots
[05:46] <imafrog> yeah no drivers load in safe mode
[05:46] <HoRnEyDvL> But no matter what version drive i install goes black
[05:46] <Thumper_> What gfx card do you have?
[05:46] <HoRnEyDvL> It happened as soon as i installe dthe latest updates
[05:46] <HoRnEyDvL> 7600GT
[05:47] <Thumper_> Did you try to get the correct drivers from nvidia.com?
[05:47] <HoRnEyDvL> yeah
[05:47] <Thumper_> and?
[05:47] <imafrog> HoRnEyDvL is it connected to your pc properly
[05:47] <HoRnEyDvL> haha
[05:48] <D3xtrose> omg
[05:48] <HoRnEyDvL> it is i mean im on it now
[05:48] <D3xtrose> Lol
[05:48] <D3xtrose> Oh
[05:48] <HoRnEyDvL> but using like default driver
[05:48] <D3xtrose> I thought he was gonna say "I guess it wasnt"
[05:48] <imafrog> try the drives from nvidia
[05:49] <imafrog> never heard that problem before
[05:50] <imafrog> install your drivers, go in safe mode and are there any errors next to your
[05:50] <HoRnEyDvL> nope
[05:50] <HoRnEyDvL> no error nothing]
[05:50] <pixil> HoRnEyDvL: What do you mean by "default driver" ?
[05:50] <HoRnEyDvL> i restart pc shows me bios screen etc then goe sto the progress bar that
[05:50] <imafrog> no error message before it turns off? like a flicker
[05:51] <imafrog> pixil like the one vista installs
[05:51] <pixil> imafrog: Thanks HoRnEyDvL.
[05:51] <pixil> :-)
[05:51] <imafrog> shitty colours
[05:51] <HoRnEyDvL> Pixil , Device manager right click uninstal
[05:51] <imafrog> what?
[05:52] <pixil> HoRnEyDvL: You sure you downloaded the correct platform? ie: not 64-bit?
[05:52] <HoRnEyDvL> yeah
[05:52] <HoRnEyDvL> its just real weird
[05:52] <imafrog> you havin a laugh with us?
[05:52] <HoRnEyDvL> stupid updates, Funny thing is that the updates dont say anything about u
[05:53] <pixil> Updates?
[05:53] <imafrog> vista updates
[05:53] <imafrog> HoRnEyDvL you in usa?
[05:53] <HoRnEyDvL> aus
[05:54] <pixil> HoRnEyDvL: What card do you have?
[05:54] <imafrog> austraiala, maybe the aus drivers aint compatible with usa
[05:55] <HoRnEyDvL> gefore 7600gt
[05:55] <pixil> What exactly happens when you install the drivers and reboot?
[05:56] <pixil> Wait, who makes the card?
[05:56] <imafrog> nvidia
[05:56] <pixil> no
[05:56] <pixil> imafrog: Try letting HoRnEyDvL answer his own questions, eh?
[05:56] <imafrog> yeah
[05:56] <HoRnEyDvL> installs fine reboot bios screen comes up then thast goes then the progre
[05:57] <imafrog> lose*
[05:57] <pixil> HoRnEyDvL: Who built your card?
[05:57] <HoRnEyDvL> iu dont know
[05:58] <pixil> ...
[05:58] <D3xtrose> Device manager?
[05:58] <pixil> You don't know who makes your card?
[05:58] <D3xtrose> Right click my computer properteries maybe?
[05:58] <D3xtrose> Device manager?
[05:58] <HoRnEyDvL> Nvidia Gforce 7600GT
[05:58] <pixil> That won't give this information.
[05:58] <pixil> HoRnEyDvL: That is the chipset
[05:58] <pixil> Someone had to manufacture the card
[05:58] <imafrog> HoRnEyDvL aint it geforce 7600gt?
[05:59] <HoRnEyDvL> nforce maybe
[05:59] <HoRnEyDvL> not sure
[05:59] <pixil> No
[05:59] <pixil> nForce is nvidia-based motherboard
[05:59] <HoRnEyDvL> g force
[05:59] <pixil> That's part of the model. :-/
[05:59] <D3xtrose> wait so if i have a geforce6150 neforece450 i aheva nividia MB too?
[05:59] <pixil> D3xtrose: No
[06:00] <HoRnEyDvL> tehn no clue dont have the box with me sorry
[06:00] <imafrog> HoRnEyDvL
[06:00] <imafrog> http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=1511-4130
[06:00] <imafrog> ?
[06:00] <yeLedtoV> http://www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=81416
[06:01] <imafrog> is that yo card?
[06:01] <imafrog> http://www.stak.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=3946
[06:01] <HoRnEyDvL> pixel
[06:01] <imafrog> http://www.lhdigital.co.uk/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=GBP&produc
[06:01] <imafrog> any of them?
[06:02] <HoRnEyDvL> its Gigabyte Geforce 7600 GT
[06:02] <pixil> There you go.
[06:02] <pixil> Is it possible that Gigabyte provides a driver?
[06:02] <pixil> Evga always has.
[06:03] <pixil> Your symptom, to me, sounds like the card is trying to apply a display settin
[06:03] <HoRnEyDvL> ill check
[06:03] <HoRnEyDvL> i even tried changing res to 800*600 same thing
[06:03] <HoRnEyDvL> its 22 inch lcd
[06:04] <imafrog> you on xp 32 bit yeah?
[06:04] <imafrog> get your model number from your driver
[06:04] <imafrog> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/VGA/Driver_List.aspx?ChipsetType=NVIDIA+
[06:05] <imafrog> get your model number download the driver should be workin
[06:05] <imafrog> hopefully
[06:05] <imafrog> vista*
[06:06] <imafrog> you therE?
[06:06] <HoRnEyDvL> yeah
[06:06] <imafrog> you hear me?
[06:06] <HoRnEyDvL> yeah
[06:06] <imafrog> lol you doin it?
[06:07] <imafrog> thats from the website if you dont believe me
[06:07] <HoRnEyDvL> i do lol
[06:08] <imafrog> did you install the card yourself?
[06:08] <HoRnEyDvL> maybe i sgould install driver that came with cd?
[06:08] <HoRnEyDvL> i built machine my self
[06:08] <D3xtrose> ...
[06:08] <imafrog> try the website
[06:08] <imafrog> its the latest driver
[06:10] <imafrog> but its upto you
[06:11] <HoRnEyDvL> nope :(
[06:13] <HoRnEyDvL> same prob again
[06:16] <pixil> Access 2003 won't open dbf file with more than 8 chars without ~1.dbf.
[06:16] <pixil> Why?
[06:18] <imafrog> HoRnEyDvL try it off your cd
[06:18] <imafrog> pixil you got the latest updates?
[06:18] <pixil> si
[06:20] <imafrog> sorry no idea try reinstallin
[06:20] <imafrog> maybe theres an update from windows update try that
[06:21] <z8O> when i consider how well a tweaked version of xp can be made to run on a 1ghz c
[06:22] <MrMeth> anyone know a simple little MSN Live Messenger alternative taht uses very lo
[06:28] <imafrog> MrMeth
[06:28] <imafrog> webmessenger
[06:28] <MrMeth> the MS version?
[06:28] <imafrog> run it through browser
[06:28] <MrMeth> thx ill look at taht one
[06:30] <imafrog> z8O i got 700mhz
[06:31] <imafrog> 256mb of ram
[06:31] <imafrog> got live messenger runnin IE and mirc
[06:31] <imafrog> work good
[06:31] <MrMeth> there's a msn messenger plu-in for mirc
[06:32] <z8O> yep
[06:32] <MrMeth> but it's not reliable to stay connected
[06:32] <z8O> and not just the performance
[06:32] <z8O> but the functionalty of xp compared to say windows mobile
[06:32] <imafrog> what you mean connected?
[06:32] <imafrog> oh
[06:32] <imafrog> fuck that!!
[06:33] <MrMeth> stay online,... I tyred it b4, It tells me im online, but im not on other pe
[06:33] <HoRnEyDvL> Ur kidding me
[06:34] <MrMeth> ?
[06:34] <HoRnEyDvL> I disabled & the enabled the card & seems 2be working
[06:34] <z8O> good
[06:34] <z8O> that can help more often than one realizes
[06:34] <imafrog> HoRnEyDvL exaclt what happend with my router, wasnt workin at all wouldnt e
[06:34] <HoRnEyDvL> ill retest by resetting computer
[06:35] <imafrog> changed the socket from 1 to 2 phone line works
[06:35] <HoRnEyDvL> yeah man but wouldnot uninstalling then reinstalling work ?
[06:35] <Blacka> yo....I have a lil situation here right....I have a laptop.....and a desk to
[06:35] <z8O> uninstalling a device and having it detected and reinstalled is a workable solu
[06:35] <imafrog> nah
[06:35] <imafrog> Blacka floppy disk
[06:35] <deww> Blacka: does the desktop have a network adapter?
[06:36] <HoRnEyDvL> hope that works
[06:36] <MrMeth> I have a 15 year old Zoltrix TV Tunner card that does it's own video process
[06:36] <HoRnEyDvL> god bless Log me in, www.logmein.com
[06:36] <Blacka> ahhh, not sure deWW
[06:36] <Blacka> and yes the destop has a floppy disck, but the laptop doesnt
[06:36] <Blacka> imafrog
[06:36] <z8O> MrMeth yep there were some very good acclerated video boards that far back
[06:37] <z8O> even further back
[06:37] <z8O> on the amiga
[06:37] <deww> Blacka: ok. how old is this laptop? which version of windows are you running?
[06:37] <deww> i mean desktop
[06:37] <Blacka> XP on both
[06:37] <pixil> gmail? :-)
[06:37] <imafrog> psp's looks sweet when they are polished
[06:38] <deww> Blacka: so does it get on the internet? if so how?
[06:38] <z8O> MrMeth i have some pci ati tv tuner board for which the only working available
[06:38] <z8O> believe it or not
[06:38] <z8O> so its as good as useless
[06:39] <MrMeth> the Zoltrix only has drivers for Win95/98 an 98se :)
[06:39] <z8O> yep
[06:39] <ESDww> Hello
[06:39] <z8O> can it run on xp anyway?
[06:39] <z8O> in compatibility mode even?
[06:39] <MrMeth> yea, I had it workin on XP
[06:39] <z8O> nice
[06:40] <Blacka> yea it does by cable connection
[06:40] <z8O> btw
[06:40] <MrMeth> i think i used a 3rd party BT chipset driver tho
[06:40] <ESDww> Im trying to delete 2 files on my desktop, but when i try to delete them, win
[06:40] <z8O> it came as a shock to read just how many ppl are buying new notebooks and findi
[06:41] <imafrog> ESDww press ALT + CTRL + DEL
[06:41] <z8O> its a wake up call to check hardware support before buying anything now
[06:41] <imafrog> end the process you are deleting.
[06:41] <loxley> hi i was wondering which server i should use when connecting from .de ?
[06:41] <imafrog> loxley anywhere in europe
[06:42] * ttol- is now known as ttol
[06:42] <MrMeth> z80: XP can't be installed on it aty all?
[06:42] <z8O> yep
[06:42] <HoRnEyDvL> woot works like a treat thanks guys
[06:42] <z8O> thats possible
[06:42] <z8O> many models NO XP or Linux
[06:42] <imafrog> loxley try irc.efnet.fr
[06:42] <HoRnEyDvL> thanks pixil & every 1 for ur help
[06:42] <z8O> i try to mention it as often as possible
[06:42] <z8O> so ppl dont get burned
[06:42] <loxley> imafrog: ok, i think the host i joined with got k-lined for some reason.
[06:42] <MrMeth> im glad u did
[06:43] <z8O> check driver support for the hardware you buy now
[06:43] <z8O> everything
[06:43] <loxley> imafrog: when connected to a .il server
[06:43] <imafrog> or efnet.demon.co.uk
[06:43] <z8O> too late to check after
[06:43] <imafrog> just type /server efnet.demon.co.uk
[06:43] <loxley> imafrog: ok ill test that
[06:43] <imafrog> hy you wanna connect to illionois?
[06:43] <loxley> imafrog: thanks
[06:44] <imafrog> aint that in america
[06:44] <loxley> imafrog: i just connected to irc.efnet.org i think it was
[06:44] <imafrog> yeah thats a random server
[06:44] <imafrog> type /links
[06:44] <imafrog> loads of servers eh
[06:45] <z8O> Mr Meth this was my point in a discussion that MS pushes Vista so hard they ris
[06:45] <loxley> imafrog: ;)
[06:45] <pixil> Oh my good god. Dark Chocolate Mint 3 Musketeers
[06:45] <z8O> and to think it would be Microsoft that does that
[06:46] <MrMeth> I herd taht MS has plans in the future to stream windows as a pay service li
[06:46] <z8O> MrMeth it also tells me the hardware manufacturers are still very clueless as t
[06:46] <pixil> z80: Spare us.
[06:46] <z8O> im just gald many ppl are making it clear they wont be pushed down a single OS
[06:47] <Blacka> deww : what do u suggest I do?
[06:48] <imafrog> what Blacka?
[06:48] <deww> Blacka: you ignored my question
[06:49] <Blacka> I said I have a cable connection, and the OE is WinXP
[06:50] <imafrog> Blacka has your laptop for usb
[06:50] <deww> Blacka: you can setup a windows network for file sharing. look that up. or get
[06:51] <deww> and you didn't say you had a cable connection
[06:51] <deww> on the desktop pc
[06:51] <Blacka> yea sorry
[06:51] <Brettman> anyone real good with thunderbird im trying to find a setting that keeps e
[06:52] <Brettman> even after i view em with thunderbird
[07:02] <Sicka> Hi. what's the physical limitation to ntfs directory size? I can find out the
[07:05] <McGuire> doing my sound set up is it safe to assume that my speakers are not "full r
[07:05] <phisher1> theres no limit of directory size
[07:06] <phisher1> other than the max disk size of ntfs and the size of your hdd
[07:06] <Sicka> hmm... what else could cause write errors?
[07:07] <Sicka> Ihave full permissions
[07:07] <phisher1> you're sure writing those isos won't run you out of space?
[07:07] <Sicka> quite
[07:07] <Sicka> Hard Disks: (Total/Free: 1.31/0.81TB ¤ Total/Free space on: C: 232.88/66.63GB
[07:07] <phisher1> and you are writing to ... which drive?
[07:07] <Sicka> F:
[07:08] <phisher1> well, temporary space would most likely be pulled from your C drive, which
[07:08] <Sicka> yep & there's no quotas since I'm admin of course
[07:09] <Sicka> the isos write to like 600 megs then fail
[07:09] <phisher1> you are trying to write 3 isos simotanously ?
[07:09] <Sicka> no
[07:09] <Sicka> I can copy the files directly from the dvds into folders...
[07:09] <imafrog> you isos from usb
[07:09] <phisher1> what is the error returned?
[07:09] <phisher1> what program are you using to create the isos?
[07:10] <Sicka> imafrog: no from dvd
[07:10] <Sicka> I tried both alcohol & daemon tools pro
[07:10] <Sicka> they're my own dvds so there's no protection
[07:10] <Sicka> error is image creation failed
[07:11] * ceph is now known as face-
[07:11] <deww> did you try using another directory?
[07:12] <Sicka> nope
[07:12] <deww> try that
[07:12] <z8O> alcohol is normally ok at burning images
[07:12] <z8O> as is ultraiso
[07:12] <deww> even with fat32 you should be able to get 2GB before it errors out
[07:12] <Sicka> mmk... be awhile before I can try again... but I'd like to resolve the error
[07:12] <imafrog> fat32 goes upto 16gb
[07:12] <Sicka> well the dir is at 22 gigs right now
[07:13] <deww> make sure you're not using odd file names, super long file names (directories
[07:13] <deww> imafrog: not per file
[07:13] <z8O> could be some component misconfigured elsewhere in OS
[07:13] <Sicka> just their juliet names as filenames & path is 12 letters
[07:13] <imafrog> oh never got that
[07:13] <Sicka> z8O: like what though?
[07:13] <z8O> heh
[07:14] <z8O> thats where i unleash an arsenal of tools
[07:14] <z8O> and disappear for a weekend
[07:14] <Sicka> the 1st 6 dvds copied then tried 2 different one both of which I made & copie
[07:14] <pixil> failed?
[07:14] <Sicka> to copy
[07:15] <deww> you're doing dvd -> iso right?
[07:15] <Sicka> ya
[07:15] <imafrog> Sicka restart your comp and try to copy again but dont run anything
[07:15] <deww> maybe check your eventvwr
[07:15] <imafrog> when i run stuff when i copy from my usb it gives me an invalid file
[07:15] <pixil> Sicka: I meant, can you elaborate on "failed" :P
[07:16] <Sicka> nope
[07:16] <Sicka> the programs say copying the disc failed & ask if I want to delete the incomp
[07:17] <pixil> All it says is "failed"? There's no further details anywhere?
[07:17] <z8O> " when i copy from my usb it gives me an invalid file"
[07:17] <z8O> that must be looked at
[07:18] <z8O> check yout usb/chipset drivers
[07:18] <z8O> *your
[07:18] <z8O> any other errors?
[07:18] <Sicka> wow
[07:18] <Sicka> ok nothing under apps
[07:18] <Sicka> but I checkd system event view as well
[07:19] <Sicka> & have a ton of this:
[07:19] <Sicka> An error was detected on device \Device\CdRom0 during a paging operation.
[07:19] <Sicka> For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/
[07:19] <pixil> eww
[07:19] <pixil> That's not good
[07:19] <z8O> its a serious problem if a storage device cant transfer without error
[07:19] <z8O> no point with dealing with anything else before that
[07:19] <dadabagvn> Mitchell Report is on!
[07:20] <Sicka> ya but what could be causing it?
[07:20] <pixil> Sicka: A failing burner? A bad cable?
[07:20] <Sicka> hrm...
[07:20] <z8O> i remember trying to use an old 40 conductor cable on a fast cdrw drive
[07:20] <dadabagvn> y
[07:20] <Sicka> I'll dig out a newer cable
[07:21] <Sicka> have some black things that came with my asus
[07:21] <dadabagvn> old rhelic
[07:21] * pixil read that wrong
[07:21] <Sicka> the cd is a generic 56* cd-r
[07:21] <Sicka> the dvd is a samsung dvd-+rw 20*
[07:21] <dadabagvn> i remember Mitsumi 32 rpm cd roms
[07:22] <rhelic> I use to rock mitsumi too, they were craptastic
[07:22] <dadabagvn> haha
[07:22] <Sicka> followed that link the event viewer had... ms's useful help: no user action i
[07:22] <Sicka> heh
[07:22] <pixil> Yeah, those are never any more help. :-/
[07:22] <rhelic> Sicka: yea most of those are useless
[07:23] <z8O> samsung drives do well in reviews
[07:23] <rhelic> if there isn't a specific KB article for you, you're screwed
[07:23] <rhelic> z80: yea, I have a Samsung DVDr, it's great
[07:23] <Sicka> could it also be the wron drivers for my motherboard?
[07:23] <rhelic> z80: I haven't liked a drive this much since my Plexter in '99
[07:23] <z8O> i had an external samsung writer once
[07:23] <rhelic> z80: LiteOn is noisey garbage, very overrated
[07:23] <z8O> changed my mind about USB
[07:24] <z8O> when i saw how well it "could" work
[07:24] <rhelic> z80: USB2?
[07:24] <z8O> yep
[07:25] <dadabagvn> I got a Monster burner
[07:25] <toocanx> anyone know how to unlock a pdf?
[07:25] <z8O> i dont burn too many discs now ..i have so many virtual options
[07:25] <dadabagvn> sorry I meant MAd Dog
[07:25] <dadabagvn> I got a MAd Dog Cd-r/rw, i believe
[07:26] <dadabagvn> I got my Mad Dog and Monster mixed up
[07:26] <dadabagvn> lol
[07:26] <z8O> i regret selling my Asus cdrw in a machine i sold
[07:26] <z8O> i should held on to it
[07:26] <z8O> cant buy it now
[07:26] <rhelic> in 2004 I bought a Mad Dog CD reader, because mine broke and I needed someth
[07:27] <dadabagvn> haha
[07:28] <z8O> many DVD writers if not most suck ass at burning cd's
[07:28] <dadabagvn> mitsumi may have sucked but it sowed the early seeds and so I love em
[07:28] <dadabagvn> oh really?
[07:28] <z8O> yep
[07:28] <z8O> im going to have both
[07:28] <danux> ola
[07:28] <dadabagvn> never personally owned a dvd burner
[07:28] <z8O> one burner for cd's
[07:28] <z8O> one burner for dvd's
[07:29] <gaurev> i had to do the same because dell didn't offer a combo cd burner and dvd bur
[07:30] <Sicka2> hrm
[07:30] <z8O> and when you need a boot cd fast for another machine its too much to wait for a
[07:30] <Sicka2> nice of microsoft to mention that windows update... when installing a ethern
[07:31] <z8O> dont mention them
[07:31] <z8O> and thier "vista" program
[07:31] <z8O> i havent used it myself
[07:31] <Sicka2> & it froze windowsupdate too
[07:31] <Sicka2> cool
[07:31] <z8O> just seen it on other machines
[07:31] <z8O> it burned me out bad
[07:32] <z8O> MS should just get into the movie business or something
[07:32] <z8O> they seem to be losing the understanding of what an OS is
[07:32] <gaurev> did they ever have a proper understanding of what an operating system is?
[07:32] <dadabagvn> this is sweet..
[07:32] <dadabagvn> http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3243636
[07:33] <rhelic> btw, if you didn't hear, instead of March, MS is releasing SP1 early, some p
[07:34] <pixil> "some people" ?
[07:34] <pixil> How is that determined?
[07:34] <rhelic> they said "volume customers" get it this week, probably via MSDN
[07:34] <pixil> BAH
[07:34] <rhelic> pixil: sounds like if you have MSDN, you can go DL it
[07:34] <pixil> I'm going to torrent it. :p
[07:34] <rhelic> yea, I did, already installed it
[07:35] <pixil> And
[07:35] <pixil> Did the world come crashing down? :-)
[07:35] <rhelic> it's grrrrrrrrrrreat!
[07:35] <rhelic> I had to re-install my sound driver, but things are better
[07:36] <rhelic> my wife plays Second Life in a Window, SP1 double her frame rate, so now ful
[07:37] <mytho> hey
[07:37] <mytho> can someone help me understand the difference between routers and switches
[07:37] <mytho> ?>
[07:37] <dadabagvn> i can
[07:37] <z8O> go for it
[07:37] <Sicka2> a switch is like a pipe that has a valve on it
[07:37] <z8O> tell him how much simpler and more reliable switches are
[07:38] <phisher1> routers route
[07:38] <phisher1> switches switch
[07:38] <mytho> lol
[07:38] <Sicka2> move the information from 1 location to another depending on who asked for i
[07:38] <z8O> compared to consumer level wireless routers are
[07:38] <dadabagvn> a switch is nothing more then a intelligent multiport rpeater.. another w
[07:38] <mytho> but i can assigns ips onto interfaces on my switch
[07:38] <mytho> why bother with a router
[07:38] <dadabagvn> it allows everyone to 'see' everyone else, in essence..
[07:38] <z8O> there is not such thing a cheap reliable router
[07:38] <z8O> of that im sure
[07:38] <phisher1> mytho: does your switch route?
[07:38] <z8O> the next i buy would be cisco
[07:38] <mytho> lets talk about cisco routers
[07:38] <phisher1> the ability to assign ips to switch ports does not give it the ability to
[07:38] <dadabagvn> did that help?
[07:39] <mytho> well, phisher1, i do have a L3 switch
[07:39] <dadabagvn> or shall I go on?
[07:39] <mytho> so, yes, it routers
[07:39] <mytho> routes
[07:39] <mytho> but im trying to understand the essence behind needing a router
[07:39] <phisher1> congrats
[07:39] <phisher1> to leave your network
[07:39] <mytho> sec dadabagvn
[07:39] <phisher1> you need a device that stores information on next hops
[07:39] <z8O> well these days ppl who dont like cables choose routers
[07:39] <mytho> well...
[07:39] <dadabagvn> mytho did I hlp
[07:39] <dadabagvn> ?
[07:39] <mytho> say, LAN1 and LAN2 are connected via a leased line...
[07:40] <mytho> why cant i just hook the leased line up to my two switches on either end, thu
[07:40] <z8O> but the main difference is a switch needs multiple ip adresses
[07:40] <mytho> why bother with a router?
[07:40] <z8O> while a router doesnt
[07:40] <rhelic> is there ever a situation where a switch is a better choice than a router?
[07:40] <Sicka2> anyone able to reach asus's american site?
[07:40] <mytho> dadabagvn, go on please..
[07:40] <dadabagvn> mytho did I hlp?
[07:40] <phisher1> uhh
[07:40] <phisher1> wow
[07:40] <dadabagvn> a switch is nothing more then a intelligent multiport repeater.. another
[07:41] <Sicka2> rhelic: of course.... switches don't always need rules & such to run
[07:41] <z8O> indeed
[07:41] <phisher1> rhelic: are you being sarcastic?
[07:41] <Sicka2> so if you want something that's dumb like a printer it might be the better w
[07:41] <Sicka2> or say a ps3
[07:41] <rhelic> phisher1: no.... I'm not a network guy
[07:41] <phisher1> oh
[07:41] <dadabagvn> mytho did I help?
[07:41] <mytho> well, yes
[07:41] <phisher1> if you need a device to route outside of your local subnet.. you need a ro
[07:42] <mytho> i see
[07:42] <dadabagvn> a switch is a concentrator?
[07:42] <z8O> sithe only wireless i have faith in is a 1kw shortwave transceiver
[07:42] <phisher1> not nessacarily directly connected, but on your local physical and logical
[07:42] <mytho> so, like i said, why cant i just hook up the two switches via a leased line
[07:42] <dadabagvn> another words, its where all devices 'come together' to form a LAN
[07:42] <dadabagvn> did that help?
[07:42] <mytho> i see
[07:42] <rhelic> phisher1: but is there ever an advantage to a switch, why not just always us
[07:42] <z8O> because the switch doesnt need setting up
[07:42] <z8O> or rules
[07:43] <mytho> rhelic, because a router hasnt got many interfaces
[07:43] <dadabagvn> what else do you need mytho?
[07:43] <mytho> z8O, it can use rules
[07:43] <phisher1> rhelic: high end switches contenrate more on switching capabilities and po
[07:43] <mytho> dadabagvn, im still trying to get my head around it
[07:43] <dadabagvn> ok but where is the confusion
[07:43] <z8O> mytho my point being its normally just plug and play
[07:43] <phisher1> routers typically concentrate on routing capabilitieis and sometimes have
[07:43] <phisher1> home networking and enterprise networking are 2 completelyd different mons
[07:44] <pixil> Chinese new year already passed, did it not?
[07:44] <dadabagvn> a switch just lets you be able to speak to the guy next to you and so for
[07:44] <mytho> it doesnt make sense to me, why i cant just use two switches and skip the rou
[07:44] <estrang3r> token ring!
[07:44] * estrang3r is now known as estranger
[07:44] <phisher1> mytho: if your ip addres is say... 24.100.5.2
[07:44] <phisher1> with a mask of 255.255.255.0
[07:44] <z8O> and ppl fight as i have with routers that drop out
[07:44] <phisher1> how would you get to 25.100.5.2 ?
[07:44] <z8O> and i opened a few of them
[07:45] <mytho> thats it phisher1, now i get it
[07:45] <pixil> layer 4 switch</monkey_wrench)>
[07:45] <dadabagvn> the same pc?
[07:45] <z8O> and found some didnt even have a simple heatsinkl
[07:45] <mytho> :)
[07:45] <estranger> in lamen terms.. switches only work with one network.. if you want to got
[07:45] <dadabagvn> 24.100.5.2 and 24.100.5.2 are the same PC!
[07:45] <phisher1> you can't traverse outside your own subnet/network with routing
[07:45] <z8O> consumer level network gear can be bad bad news
[07:45] <mytho> so its more for joining other networks
[07:45] <phisher1> its for providing pathways to other networks
[07:45] <mytho> thus, its possible to link LAN1 and LAN2 by using only swithces
[07:46] <phisher1> yes
[07:46] <mytho> but not possible if i want to join a foriegn network
[07:46] <phisher1> if they are on the same subnet
[07:46] <phisher1> mytho: unless you have static routes on the pcs them selves.. OR... A rout
[07:46] <dadabagvn> yeah a network joined only by switches must be on the same subnet
[07:46] <mytho> i see
[07:46] <dadabagvn> theminute you get another subnet, BAM, you need a router
[07:46] <mytho> im starting to understand it now
[07:46] <mytho> i see
[07:46] <mytho> great
[07:46] <mytho> you guys are amazing
[07:46] <estranger> its like.. you are an island (a switch) and if you want to get to other i
[07:46] <mytho> thank you
[07:46] <dadabagvn> nod
[07:47] <dadabagvn> nod
[07:47] <pixil> Good. Now go learn about layer four switches.
[07:47] <phisher1> hehe
[07:47] <mytho> hehehe
[07:47] <estranger> lol
[07:47] <dadabagvn> LOL
[07:47] <pixil> :D
[07:47] <mytho> i understand L3 switches better than i understand routers nad L2 switches :)
[07:47] <z8O> my 8 year old 3com 3C905C-TX nic is way more stable than any onboard nic i have
[07:47] <estranger> i miss my old orinoco gold wireless cards
[07:47] <pixil> We officially removed all of 3com from this company
[07:47] <dadabagvn> Mitchell Report is On!!
[07:47] <phisher1> mytho: a later 3 switch is a switch with routing capabilities
[07:47] <phisher1> thats all.
[07:48] <mytho> ok, im going to read up about this stuff a bit more now that im grasping it a
[07:48] <mytho> thank you guys
[07:48] <mytho> :)
[07:48] <mytho> ciao
[07:48] <estranger> we just cut corners and went with dell switches when we upgraded to gige
[07:48] <estranger> mytho: welcome
[07:48] <phisher1> dell switches eh
[07:48] <z8O> dont get too cheap with networking it seems to be a mistake like buying too che
[07:48] <estranger> phisher1: 1gige and 1gige powered
[07:48] <estranger> i miss my vlans :(
[07:48] <phisher1> uhh.... you .. can't do vlans ?
[07:49] <estranger> phisher1: nope.. they decided to go with the unmanaged ones.. (I can alte
[07:49] <dadabagvn> hey guys a switch is really just a hub in lamens terms ; forget about the
[07:49] <phisher1> haha
[07:49] <phisher1> sad
[07:49] <estranger> at least I got polycom for my phone system :D
[07:50] <Sicka> dadabagvn: it's a hub with itelligence
[07:50] <Sicka> intelligence even
[07:50] <dadabagvn> yeah
[07:50] <phisher1> the intelligence of a switch is what differentiates it from a hub.
[07:50] <Sicka> a hub just spews stuff
[07:50] <phisher1> (sp)
[07:50] <dadabagvn> but if the word 'hu' help someone to understand that its where 'things co
[07:50] <Sicka> a switch pays attention to where it's putting things
[07:51] <dadabagvn> like a centralized meeting point
[07:51] <dadabagvn> thats the best definition I can give for a switch/hub
[07:51] <dadabagvn> a centralized meeting point
[07:51] <phisher1> i think we are past weak and hardly comphensible analogies
[07:51] <dadabagvn> aka a Hub
[07:51] <phisher1> comprehensible too
[07:51] <pixil> dadabagvn: It's not where the connections meet, it's how they get there.
[07:51] <dadabagvn> argghhh
[07:51] <dadabagvn> pixil xplain
[07:51] <pixil> In a hub, they all get there via one terminal. In a switch, they all get the
[07:52] <Sicka> so on the same note...
[07:52] <phisher1> and airport hub, all airplanes would stop off at every terminal to check
[07:52] <pixil> "terminal" in the sense of an airport
[07:52] <dadabagvn> what do you mean by terminals
[07:52] <rhelic> you need to read a wikipedia article if it can't be explained to you in 3 li
[07:52] <phisher1> terminal = gate
[07:52] <Sicka> what makes a router a router exactly? just the increased depth of terminal ma
[07:52] * phisher1 cries
[07:52] <pixil> A hub has one pathway out, with several connections coming in. A switch has
[07:52] <pixil> Sicka: A router sends traffic from one network to another.
[07:52] <Sicka> it doesn't have to have a firewall for example?
[07:52] <dadabagvn> a gate would be what exactly
[07:53] <phisher1> a hub is just a big ethernet cable with ports
[07:53] <dadabagvn> im not an electronics guru
[07:53] <phisher1> thats all
[07:53] * Aphee is now known as Aphy
[07:53] <Sicka> k
[07:53] <pixil> Yup. No brains in a hub.
[07:53] <pixil> :-(
[07:53] <Sicka> actually I need to bone up on connecting two routers
[07:53] * phisher1 bones up
[07:53] <Sicka> my isp sent me a new one
[07:54] <Sicka> my linksys didn't like being 2nd in line
[07:54] <Sicka> it wouldn't resolves dns or something
[07:54] <dadabagvn> pixil a hub only has one pathway out?
[07:54] <dadabagvn> i thought a hub and switch all had as many pathways out as they have in
[07:54] <Sicka> even though it got an ip & the dns servers
[07:54] <pixil> dadabagvn: yup. So if you have 100mb hub, that 100mb is shared between each
[07:54] <dadabagvn> when you say pathways, are we talking about something I can see with the
[07:55] <pixil> A switch gives each connection 100mb.
[07:55] <Sicka> dadabagvn: no
[07:55] <pixil> No, can't see data pathways.
[07:55] <dadabagvn> the operative word being naked eye
[07:55] <dadabagvn> oh
[07:55] * phisher1 smells a troll
[07:55] * Life^ is now known as nsfw
[07:55] <dadabagvn> ok so you cant see them
[07:55] <Sicka> kinky
[07:55] <dadabagvn> so this is done at the wire level?
[07:56] <phisher1> no you can't see the electrons flowing down the wire.
[07:56] <dadabagvn> internally? thats why you said ;gates'
[07:56] <dadabagvn> ?
[07:56] * Gmouth finds his troll gun
[07:56] <pixil> Gates was a use of symbolism.
[07:56] <rhelic> Gmouth: make sure those are titanium bullets
[07:57] <deww> too many metaphores
[07:57] <phisher1> its like a big apple
[07:57] <dadabagvn> im trying to get my mind around how to visualize these connections
[07:57] <phisher1> with lots of worms
[07:57] <phisher1> but the worms can't find their way home
[07:57] <deww> dadabagvn: google for a picture
[07:57] <rhelic> dadabagvn: why are you even in this, it wasn't even your question?
[07:57] <phisher1> but if you throw the apple into a lake
[07:57] <phisher1> BAM
[07:57] <dadabagvn> i ahub looks just like a switch..you got a lot of rj 45 ports and uplink
[07:57] <phisher1> you've got synergy
[07:57] <dadabagvn> the switch looks the same
[07:57] <Gmouth> they are troltanium bullets
[07:57] <Kor> is it common for computers these days to not have serial ports?
[07:58] <rhelic> Kor: yes
[07:58] <phisher1> Kor: yes
[07:58] <z8O> Gmouth im impressed
[07:58] <Sicka> Kor: ya
[07:58] <Kor> dam
[07:58] <pixil> dadabagvn: If you want to further the discussion, please do so in #helpchat
[07:58] <phisher1> laptops especially
[07:58] <Sicka> kor: if it's a desktop you probably have 1 header inside
[07:58] <z8O> "troltanium" is quite a mouthfull for EFnet
[07:58] <z8O> lol
[07:58] <dadabagvn> so where is the one connection in on a hub versus numerous on the switch
[07:58] <Kor> and is it true that most laptops only provide +5 from the serial port and not +
[07:58] <pixil> dadabagvn: #helpchat if you want to continue the discussion.
[07:58] <rhelic> Kor: there are "legacy free" mobos, no: ps2, serial, parralele
[07:58] <z8O> most laptops dont have a serial port
[07:59] <Sicka> Kor: just use a usb --> db12 device if you can
[07:59] <z8O> but those that do offer +5
[07:59] <z8O> thats rs232 standard
[07:59] <dadabagvn> hrmpfh
[07:59] <z8O> btw you can buy a cardbus serial port
[07:59] <z8O> which might be better than a usb converter
[07:59] <Sicka> cardbus is faster right?
[07:59] <z8O> not sure
[07:59] <Kor> how can I tell if your serial port is a provide +12 v or +5v?
[08:00] <z8O> its been around longer than usb on laptops though
[08:01] <Kor> I'm building a pic programmer and it the scematics say to make sure your serial
[08:01] <z8O> i have this very cool multimeter with rs232 cable so i need to make sure it can
[08:01] * Gmouth puts away his gun
[08:02] <z8O> the new express slot doesnt offer much
[08:02] <Gmouth> I have one of those too z80
[08:02] <z8O> so few cards for it
[08:02] <Gmouth> does your pc have a serial port?
[08:02] <z8O> yep
[08:02] <Kor> maybe I just need to put an old PC together
[08:02] <Gmouth> newer ones dont
[08:02] <Sicka> I don't get the latest xkcd
[08:02] <Gmouth> I had to buy a usb to serial so I could configure our cisco stuff
[08:03] <z8O> desktop boards arent a problem ..many new high and low end still have serial po
[08:03] <Gmouth> lappys dont
[08:03] <Kor> usb to serial won't help me cause that will probably have +5v
[08:03] <z8O> i was surprised to see how many
[08:03] <Gmouth> true
[08:03] * este_ is now known as estebueno
[08:03] <Gmouth> thinkpads don't
[08:03] <z8O> thats ok
[08:03] <z8O> then you can use a cardbus serial card
[08:03] <z8O> which are cheap
[08:04] <Kor> will cardbus be +5v or +12v?
[08:04] <preslinas> !help
[08:05] <z8O> if its rs232 standard 9 pin dsub its 5 volts
[08:05] <z8O> always
[08:05] <z8O> never 12
[08:05] <Sicka> we're sorry... !help is currently busy. pelase try again later.
[08:05] <z8O> i dont know about the 25 pin etc serial ports
[08:05] <Kor> yeah, time to just pull out an older PC
[08:05] <z8O> if there is a 12 volt pin
[08:05] <phisher1> preslinas: just ask
[08:05] <z8O> but the specs are easy to find
[08:05] <phisher1> or quit
[08:05] <z8O> and are very well documented
[08:08] <nsfw> lol
[08:09] <rhelic> man never order from Ohama Steaks, they're not THAT good for the money, and
[08:09] <rhelic> I can get better steaks for less $ at the local grocery store
[08:09] <z8O> i was wrong
[08:09] <z8O> RS232 data is bi-polar.... +3 TO +12 volts indicates an "ON or 0-state (SPACE)
[08:09] <Kor> yeah, I was looking at pinouts.ru
[08:11] <rhelic> man that's pretty crazy that .NET 2.0 is 15mb ond 3.5 is 127mb
[08:11] <z8O> The original pinout for RS232 was developed for a 25 pins sub D connector. Sinc
[08:13] <z8O> but i have never seen 12 volts on a 8 pin yet
[08:13] <z8O> er 9 pin
[08:13] <z8O> only +5
[08:16] <z8O> its very good for an emergency connection
[08:17] <z8O> The most simplistic type of serial cable has no hardware handshaking. This cabl
[08:17] <z8O> then using a terminal program with zmodem support
[08:18] <z8O> in fact you can find serial to tcp/ip support
[08:18] <rhelic> z80: you must really like to hear yourself type?
[08:18] <z8O> very much
[08:18] <z8O> :)
[08:19] <Sicka> laplink ftw
[08:19] <z8O> when i know you can learn something you should already know
[08:19] <Sicka> the ultimate badass old data Tx program
[08:19] <z8O> better than NO connection at all
[08:19] <z8O> thats what it comes down to
[08:19] <rhelic> ha laplink, I remember that
[08:20] <z8O> i have a laplink cable
[08:20] <z8O> that works with norton commander in dos
[08:20] <Sicka> wasn't it just a female to female cross over cable?
[08:20] <Sicka> nothing special
[08:20] <z8O> not fast but gets the job done ..transfering an HD image for example
[08:21] <z8O> elegant and simple
[08:22] <z8O> so one could transfer data from a new PC to a very old one with a simple homema
[08:23] <z8O> same with lpt/parallel
[08:24] <z8O> both serial and parallel transfer are way simpler to implement than usb ever co
[08:24] <falter> hey guys.. i'm trying to figure out protocol binding here and I'm confused -
[08:25] <falter> i'm trying to bind the HTTP protocol to one of my WANs on my rv042
[08:29] <john-john> can viruses hide in pdf's?
[08:30] <deww> falter: is that anything like a regular linksys router?
[08:30] <rhelic> john-john: I'd say yes, because Adobe is always fixing "holes"
[08:30] <falter> deww: pretty much
[08:30] <rhelic> john-john: assume ANY filetype can hold a virus payload
[08:31] <deww> john-john: a well crafted pdf that can exploit the reader can cause issues lik
[08:31] <falter> i'm trying to bind the http protocol because it's messing up certain website
[08:31] <falter> with the load balancing
[08:31] <deww> oh, not too familiar with that, but load balancing causes isues.
[08:32] <estranger> hmm
[08:32] <deww> is that device doing the load balancing?
[08:32] <estranger> dontsaykemp dontsaykemp dontsaykemp
[08:33] <deww> estranger: hemp!
[08:33] <estranger> lol
[08:38] <IRWolfie-> in theory is 255.255.255.255 meant to be broadcast to -all- users?
[08:40] <falter> yeah the router's doing it
[08:41] <Bjarty> i am trying to add a user to sudoers in visudo, but when i try to the "save"
[08:42] <phisher1> :wq!
[08:42] <pixil> shift+z+z!
[08:42] <z8O> Bjarty did you check the files attributes
[08:43] <Bjarty> :wq! worked thanx, will this new user be able to login with ssh now?
[08:43] <phisher1> how would editing sudoers allow for ssh access?
[08:43] <phisher1> or disallow for that matter
[08:44] <Bjarty> then how do i add a user for acces via ssh
[08:44] <phisher1> add them
[08:44] <phisher1> give them a password
[08:44] <Bjarty> I have tried it
[08:44] <phisher1> sudoers has nothing to do with ssh
[08:44] <Bjarty> they only get acces denied
[08:44] <phisher1> do they have a home directory?
[08:44] <phisher1> do they have access to it?
[08:45] <phisher1> do you have anything in your sshd_config only allowing certain users and/o
[08:45] <phisher1> is their shell valid?
[08:45] <Bjarty> sorry me, im pretty new
[08:45] <phisher1> what operating system are you running?
[08:46] <Bjarty> clarkconnect
[08:46] <phisher1> so Linux
[08:46] <Bjarty> yes.
[08:47] <phisher1> look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config for AllowGroups or AllowUsers
[08:47] <Bjarty> ok
[08:47] <phisher1> also might wanna look in /etc/hosts.allow and/or /etc/hosts.deny
[08:47] <phisher1> no telling what security mechanisms your clarkconnect has in place
[08:50] <phisher1> Bjarty: keep your questions in the channel.
[08:50] <Bjarty> ok
[08:50] <Bjarty> but can i paste that many lines in here?
[08:50] * mytho is now known as nightcrow
[08:50] <RBL> paste: Need to paste something? http://efnethelp.org/paste -phisher1 (10)
[08:51] <Bjarty> http://efnethelp.org/paste/220
[08:51] <Bjarty> can u see anything that should stop other users logging in
[08:51] <phisher1> that would be your /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[08:52] <phisher1> not /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:53] <Bjarty> what?
[08:53] * phisher1 hides the cookies
[08:53] <phisher1> Bjarty: ssh_config != sshd_config
[08:53] <phisher1> notice the d?
[08:54] <Bjarty> aha
[08:55] <Bjarty> http://efnethelp.org/paste/221
[08:55] <phisher1> thats the entire file?
[08:55] <Bjarty> yes
[08:56] <phisher1> no, nothing in there that would prevent logins
[08:56] <Bjarty> but how do i add a user shell
[08:56] <phisher1> look at /var/log/auth.log or /var/log/messages when the user attempts to l
[08:56] <phisher1> these are questions you should probably be asking clarkconnect support
[08:57] <phisher1> you are not running a tradional linux distribution
[08:57] <Bjarty> mm
[08:57] <Bjarty> maybe your right
[08:58] <Bjarty> i dont have the auth.log
[08:58] <Bjarty> either
[09:00] <merCutio> Does anyone know of a freeware program to burn digital images onto a DVD f
[09:00] <merCutio> That works, presuambly.
[09:01] <rico> anyone know a nice zoom/magnifier app for windows? some are just clunky
[09:07] <[AnTH]> rhelic!
[09:07] <rhelic> yo gabba gabba!
[09:14] <buckshot> hey my windows explorer keeps crashin wen i play or highlight video files
[09:14] <buckshot> ne1 know wut to do?
[09:16] <rhelic> what video type is it?
[09:16] <buckshot> its avi files
[09:16] <buckshot> windows media player
[09:17] <Nightwork> It's probably an issue with your codec and thumbnail generation.
[09:18] <rhelic> hmm, I'd say re-install WMP then
[09:18] <buckshot> so wut shud i do get a new codec?
[09:26] <Nightwork> Well, he doesn't even know which codec it's using.
[09:26] <Nightwork> I doubt it's any issue with WMP itself, just with the shell media extensi
[09:27] <Nightwork> I would find out which codec (using G-Spot), and update it.
[09:27] <rhelic> just don't use codec packs, install WMP, then DiVX, then XViD
[09:27] <TAS\> anyone know why a computer wouln'\t read store boughten cds and dvds? it'\s n
[09:27] <rhelic> install official packages, problem fixed
[09:27] <TAS\> 0all burnt discs will play
[09:29] <So|itude> can anyone help me with my windows vista?
[09:29] <So|itude> my internet explorer wont work :(
[09:29] <rhelic> go install SP1
[09:29] <So|itude> im have high speed internet but websites wont load
[09:29] <So|itude> i*
[09:30] <rhelic> So|itude: does FF work?
[09:31] <So|itude> i would love to use firefox but i dont have it on here
[09:31] <So|itude> and i cant download it considering ie wont let me browse
[09:38] <cloneman> hrm
[09:40] <So|itude> anyone?
[09:41] <rhelic> well go to another PC and download firefox and vista SP1
[09:41] <rhelic> don't ask "I have no arms and legs and I want to cross the street" questions
[09:42] <Gmouth> hahaha
[09:42] <So|itude> i figured maybe it was a common problem?
[09:42] <rhelic> nope, never heard of it
[09:43] <So|itude> whats vista sp1?
[09:43] <Bauer_> is anyone here using sbnc (shroudbnc)?
[09:43] <Bauer_> does anyone know how i can changed the channel buttons order?
[09:44] <Bauer_> in psybnc the channels are displayed by the time of join and in sbnc its dis
[09:44] <nsfw> hey has anyone ever had an outside enterprise level ftp host?
[09:44] <nsfw> looking for company reccomendations
[09:46] * rocko is now known as rockho
[09:49] * Activator is now known as activator
[09:49] <Equinox_> white wine is champagne right?
[09:49] <kingpimp> sure
[09:49] <spknspel_> no
[09:49] <Equinox_> hmm ok
[09:55] <rhelic> no, champagne is champagne
[09:55] <rhelic> sparkling wine = champagne... it's just not made in France
[09:57] <spknspel_> and can be any color
[09:57] <spknspel_> i prefer dom perrignon
[09:57] <rhelic> it's almost always similar to a white
[09:58] <hostage> any one wanna chat seriously
[09:58] <rhelic> sorry, no serious chat here
[09:58] <rhelic> perhaps you want #global
[09:59] <hostage> so what just playing or teezing way
[09:59] <rhelic> I don't think you belong here
[09:59] <hostage> iam from out side and looking to have some logicall
[10:00] <donimator> what's the best way to go about formatting a 320GB external hard drive as
[10:01] <hostage> nothing just imagin
[10:01] <rhelic> cool, the guy who made Win98SE uSP2 is working on a uSP3
[10:01] <spknspel_> wow
[10:01] <hostage> wawain
[10:02] <hostage> 3waw
[10:02] <hostage> and for all 4 waw
[10:05] <jackal^> can anyone open http://www.eventim.bg/ ?
[10:05] <hostage> i can but in one condition
[10:06] <rhelic> no, it seems hung
[10:06] <jackal^> darn
[10:06] <spknspel_> nopers
[10:08] <hostage> no hung
[10:08] <hostage> i have one way and its so easy
[10:09] <hostage> so why u people make u have some thing special
[10:15] <phlux> hey belter
[10:15] <phlux> I stopped using too much teeth like you told me to
[10:16] <phisher1> hmm
[10:16] <phlux> heh
[10:16] <phisher1> anyone aware of a bash variable that will output the filename of a script
[10:17] <rhelic> did you try {}
[10:17] <thewrestl> ADVERTISING +++ GET WRESTLING MEDIA @ www.thewrestlingforums.com +++ Free
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[10:17] <[AnTH]> christ
[10:17] <phlux> WOOT
[10:17] <[AnTH]> wtf
[10:17] <phlux> WRESTLING MEDIA
[10:17] <spknspel_> holla
[10:17] * [AnTH] suplexes phlux
[10:17] <[AnTH]> rah rah
[10:17] <rhelic> hey, at least he warned us it was advertising :P
[10:18] <phlux> lol
[10:18] <rhelic> isn't FREE PPV an oxymoron?
[10:19] <imafrog> hd quality my ass
[10:19] <spknspel_> bash variable thatll list the name of the file while you begin it? or a c
[10:19] <imafrog> no way
[10:23] <phisher1> spknspel_: figured it out
[10:23] <phisher1> $0
[10:25] <rhelic> oh shoot, I knew that one, perl uses the 0 argument as the scriptname
[10:25] <nsfw> hey phisher1, do you know of any hosted ftp at like an enterprise ftp level?
[10:25] <phisher1> didn't we go over this?
[10:25] <chains> anyone know how to mount a usb hdd in linux?
[10:25] <nsfw> yes and no :P
[10:26] <nsfw> I asked for a ftp server, now I'm saying screw it
[10:26] <nsfw> I'm just gonna outsource hosting
[10:26] <nsfw> I'll probably just call netsol ;)
[10:29] <phisher1> haha
[10:29] <phisher1> ok
[10:32] <dilboi> what's a decent 400w PSU?
[10:35] <dilboi> ~400
[10:36] <Sculptor> 500w one
[10:36] <Sculptor> i have Chieftec
[10:36] <Sculptor> 430W, iirc
[10:41] <chains> somebody
[10:41] <chains> anybody
[10:41] <chains> know how to mount a usb hdd in linux???
[10:43] <deww> chains: you need to specify the partition like /dev/sdb1
[10:43] <deww> paste your fdisk -l and mount whatever output somewhere
[10:44] <chains> i may have found the problem
[10:44] <chains> sdb is the disk
[10:44] <deww> yes
[10:44] <chains> looks like there might be 4 partitions
[10:45] <chains> not sure if i can mount sdb
[10:45] <deww> and when you mount, you need to mount the partition, not the disk
[10:45] <chains> have to specify 1234?
[10:45] <chains> right
[10:45] <deww> yes
[10:45] <chains> i think that might be the problem
[10:45] <chains> i'm just confused as to why there are 4 partitions on this thing
[10:45] <deww> mount /dev/sdb1 /mount/usb
[10:46] <deww> well /mnt/usb
[10:46] <chains> [root@deng-jande mnt]# mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb/
[10:46] <chains> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, or too many m
[10:46] <dilboi> deww: give me a tip on the PSU
[10:47] <deww> chains: show me the output of fdisk -l http://www.efnethelp.org/paste/
[10:47] <deww> dilboi: i bought
[10:47] <deww> uhm
[10:47] <deww> coolermaster or something
[10:48] <chains> deww, http://efnethelp.org/paste/222
[10:48] <deww> ok
[10:49] <deww> the drive has nothing on it or is corrupted
[10:49] <deww> i choose the first. it was not formatted or partitioned
[10:49] <deww> is 500GB about right for the size?
[10:49] <chains> yup
[10:49] <deww> there you go!
[10:49] <chains> so how do i go about fixing it?
[10:49] <chains> it shouldn't have anything on it
[10:50] <chains> i want to make it ready to use
[10:50] <chains> a user needs to back up his stuff onto it
[10:50] <deww> fdisk :P
[10:50] <deww> for linux?
[10:50] <chains> yah
[10:50] <deww> or windows
[10:50] <chains> linux
[10:50] <deww> fdisk
[10:50] <chains> fdisk /dev/sdb?
[10:50] <deww> yeas
[10:51] <et_> i get same thing
[10:51] <et_> but not on a fresh drive
[10:51] <et_> only if i have failed or previous installs
[10:52] <et_> then it seems nix get a bit picky
[10:52] <chains> ok
[10:52] <chains> i hope this works
[10:52] <chains> deww, thanks for the help
[10:52] <chains> i really need to take better notes
[10:52] <chains> i've done all this stuff before
[10:52] <chains> just use it so rarely
[10:52] <et_> it comes back after a bit
[10:52] <chains> hard to piece it back together from memory
[10:52] <deww> fdisk isn't too hard to figure out, but i am spoiled by cfdisk
[10:52] <chains> yah, i've used both
[10:53] <chains> i think i've got it under control now
[10:53] <chains> thanks for sparking my brain
[10:53] <deww> what brain???
[10:53] <[AnTH]> lol
[10:53] <chains> !
[10:54] <chains> ok
[10:54] <chains> crud
[10:54] <chains> i created the partition, forgot to format
[10:54] <chains> heh
[10:55] <deww> yes. mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.ext2 -j or something
[10:55] <deww> the -j makes it ext3
[10:55] <likwidsix> i just downloaded skype for the first time and made a skypeout call to a
[10:55] <[AnTH]> just use gparted
[10:55] <sparrw> i am considering changing from a kde/windows launcher+taskbar to a gnome/mac
[10:55] <[AnTH]> and be done with silly commandlines
[10:55] <[AnTH]> :-p
[10:55] <sparrw> likwidsix: free minutes for new account, i think
[10:56] <chains> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 ?
[10:56] <deww> chains: yea. make sure i got the right command.
[10:56] <chains> not found
[10:56] <chains> i thought fdisk had a format option
[10:57] <deww> mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 then
[10:57] <chains> command not found
[10:57] <deww> chains: it's a loonix. make one thing, and make it do the job well
[10:57] <chains> might not be in my path, one sec
[10:57] <deww> are you root?
[10:57] <deww> you work in a loonux company!
[10:57] <deww> or something
[10:57] <chains> yah but they don't trust me
[10:57] * deww gets all jjshoe on chains
[10:57] <chains> they let me run wild though
[10:58] <chains> nah, our linux peeps are out today
[10:58] <chains> so i have to fill in for them
[10:58] <chains> getting stuck with shit i don't normally do
[10:58] <chains> if i did this stuff everyday i wouldn't be so in the dark
[10:58] <chains> how to add /sbin/* to my path?
[10:58] <deww> @_@
[10:58] <deww> i don't do it everyday :///
[10:58] <chains> probably more often than me :)
[10:58] <deww> what shell
[10:59] <deww> echo $0
[10:59] <deww> you know. just do this /sbin/mkfs
[10:59] <chains> that's what i'm doing
[10:59] <chains> just thought i'd throw it out there
[10:59] <chains> so i know
[10:59] <chains> how to add/remove from path
[11:01] <chains> bash shell btw
[11:03] <deww> look in your .profilerc or .bashrc and add something like PATH=$PATH:/sbin
[11:03] <deww> $PATH is your current path and you want to add /sbin
[11:04] <chains> ok
[11:04] <chains> figured it was something like that
[11:04] <chains> i don't want to mess with root's account
[11:04] <chains> just curious
[11:04] <chains> thanks
[11:04] <chains> this format is taking its sweet time
[11:04] <deww> it might be taken out on purpose
[11:04] <chains> yah, i was thinking that
[11:05] * Disconnected
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[11:05] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
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[11:08] <chains> deww: you still with the same gf?
[11:09] <deww> yea
[11:09] <deww> is your gf looking??
[11:10] <chains> i've been through 2 gf's since
[11:10] <chains> currently single
[11:10] <chains> and looking
[11:12] <chains> this formatting is taking it's sweet time
[11:18] <deww> it shouldn't take too long
[11:18] <deww> maybe you had it check for badblocks or it is default
[11:22] <dhort> is it possible to load xp (setup files or whole OS) on a portable usb hdd and
[11:22] <dhort> im trying not to buy an external cdrom for this laptop
[11:22] <nsfw> possible yes, easy no
[11:22] <deww> assuming you figure out hwo to get the usb drive to detect properly
[11:23] <dhort> the laptop i have is a dell d410 (no cdrom) but it has usb drives and i want
[11:25] <rhelic> dhort: usually, one needs a BartPE CD ROM to boot XP off USB
[11:28] <rhelic> <@deww> is your gf looking?? <-- there's something comical about t
[11:28] <chains> deww: Writing inode tables: 2316/3727
[11:28] <chains> started out fast
[11:29] <chains> now it's taking it's sweet time
[11:29] <chains> been going for at least 10 minutes
[11:29] <godfist> man i can't get this h.264 avi file(s) to play correctly. no matter what pr
[11:29] <godfist> i can give you the website i get the files from
[11:29] <rhelic> godfist: ever thought it's the file, perhaps damaged
[11:29] <godfist> www.denjin-video.com
[11:30] <godfist> nah i've downloaded a couple of different files all which were h.264 from t
[11:30] <godfist> and i've checked their forum no one else is having a problem
[11:30] <johnyc> can u play other files fine?
[11:30] <chains> godfist: have you tried VLC player?
[11:30] <godfist> could it be my video card?
[11:30] <godfist> yea i can play other h.264 videos fine
[11:30] <godfist> bah vlc player wouldn't help me
[11:30] <godfist> plus kmplayer and/or gomplayer is better
[11:30] <chains> heh
[11:30] <chains> i almost never have a problem with VLC player
[11:31] <godfist> i've even tried converting the files to dvd using convertx to dvd 3 and the
[11:31] <chains> unless you're playing some garbage format
[11:31] <rhelic> godfist: that site is too slow for me to check it out
[11:31] <godfist> well vlc wouldn't help me because i have a 500 mhz computer so the video ca
[11:32] <rhelic> godfist: heh, please
[11:32] <face-> what's better...benihana or pf chang's
[11:33] <godfist> rhelic-what do you mean please? i can watch h.264 videos at 400x300 resolut
[11:33] <zacc> have a question regarding a lightscribe drive. it was previously working fine,
[11:33] <godfist> i have a p3 500 mhz 384 mb ram
[11:33] <godfist> it can't play everythig
[11:34] <godfist> everything
[11:34] <zacc> i also installed a lightscribe drive from another pc and it will not be recogn
[11:34] <godfist> only way i can watch h264 videos at high res is conver to dvd
[11:34] <johnyc> time to upgrade
[11:34] <rhelic> godfist: get that hunk of junk out of here
[11:35] <godfist> dude i can convert other h.264 videos to dvd using convertx fine and they p
[11:36] <godfist> so its not that my computer is too slow
[11:36] <godfist> only thing i can think of is my video card doesnt like that version of the
[11:36] <rhelic> seriously, don't come in here and say 500mhz isn't "too slow"
[11:36] <ASk> actually, your pc is slow
[11:36] <godfist> yea i know my pc is slow
[11:36] <rhelic> the only reason you get away with DVD is because your video card is doing al
[11:36] <iro> man, i love lolcats.
[11:36] <ASk> video decoding rate is directly proportional to processing speed
[11:36] <godfist> but i can still convert them to dvd fine at least other h.264 files
[11:36] <ASk> and it scales well with multiprocessing
[11:36] <ASk> conversion is done offline
[11:36] <ASk> you are certainly not doing it in real-time
[11:37] <rhelic> ASk: unless his video card does it
[11:37] <ASk> so even a 286 could do it, given enough RAM to store intermediate results
[11:37] <rhelic> of course, video card support is very limited in video types
[11:37] <godfist> well then its my video card
[11:37] <godfist> it doesn't like the video file
[11:37] <ASk> rhelic: there are no video cards that work with a P3 500 system AND have x.264
[11:37] <rhelic> godfist: do you have a new card in that old rust bucket?
[11:37] <rhelic> ASk: AGP
[11:38] <godfist> rhelic-i'm too poor to get a new card right now..eh well I could but get a
[11:38] <ASk> rhelic: no AGP cards that do x.264
[11:38] <godfist> my card says its agp 2x
[11:38] <godfist> well i can play SOME h.264 files if they are low resolution
[11:38] <godfist> so its not the codec as a whole
[11:38] <ASk> as I've said
[11:39] <ASk> decoding speed is inversely proportional to resolution/bitrate
[11:39] <rhelic> ASk: Nvidia 8800 has a AGP version and does h.264, although way too new for
[11:39] <rhelic> despite, this is mute, this guy needs to build a real PC
[11:39] <rhelic> 500mhz is in the stone-age
[11:39] <ASk> at any rate, at 400x300 your CPU can manage to decode x.264 in software
[11:39] <ASk> just like my CPU can manage to decode 720p content and most 1080p content, but
[11:40] <rhelic> ASk: hmm, it looks like SSE2 is required for the GPU to assist with h.264
[11:40] <godfist> eh well i dont understand video codecs that well, i dont' really need to pl
[11:41] <godfist> struggles how exactly? sure the video plays slower than its supposed to but
[11:41] <godfist> playing=played
[11:42] <dhort> bartpe will let u reinstall xp w/o a cdrom drive on the laptop?
[11:42] <ASk> dhort: don't bother, just use PXE
[11:44] * activator is now known as Activator
[11:44] <dhort> pxe?
[11:45] <dhort> i really just need to format & clean install xp (if possible)
[11:47] <chains> still formatting....
[11:47] <chains> freakin like 1 inode an hour
[11:47] <chains> wtf
[11:51] <deww> ooh
[11:51] <deww> i wonder why
[11:53] <cloneman> never full format...
[11:53] <cloneman> no point, I think
[11:53] <cloneman> quick format
[11:54] <sparrw> boo @ /Law/ in topic
[11:54] <godfist> full format identifies bad sectors does it not?
[11:55] <cloneman> I don't know...
[11:55] <deww> sparr: defend it!
[11:56] <cloneman> can we discuss drama?
[11:56] <krisp> looks like the topic says no
[11:56] <cloneman> hehe
[11:56] <krisp> maybe if we combine some of them
[11:56] <krisp> like illegal medical drama
[11:57] <sparrw> House?
[11:57] <sparrw> deww: defend the topic?
[11:57] <deww> sparrw: your views about laws and what's legal and not illegal
[11:58] <rhelic> If I tell somebody to "shove a torrent up your arse" is that illegal medical
[11:58] <cloneman> msg it to an op too, using a script
[11:58] <krisp> maybe
[11:59] <cloneman> illegal is pretty relative too... I think piracy is legal in Russia
[12:00] <deww> it used to say warez, but apparently that doesn't fit all
[12:00] <cloneman> well I never associated help raping 11 year old girls as "warez"
[12:00] <krisp> ya, it didnt cover people coming in asking where to buy marijuana
[12:02] <rhelic> NO warez/weed/women
[12:03] <cloneman> and no british people
[12:03] <cloneman> :P
[12:03] <deww> ok. we get the jokes
[12:04] <cloneman> no one ever understands "JUST ASK" I think
[12:10] <numbmind> QUESTION: wuld turning on/off a lcd monitor quite a few times a day take u
[12:10] <rhelic> no
[12:11] <numbmind> ok cuz i just got my electric bill and its more then doubled for some reas
[12:11] <nsfw> lol
[12:11] <numbmind> trying to figure out why
[12:11] <[AnTH]> ouch
[12:11] <nsfw> yes your lcd caused your electric bill to double :P
[12:11] <nsfw> lol
[12:11] <numbmind> im take ur being sarcastic
[12:11] <rhelic> numbmind: did you recently buy a HD tv?
[12:12] <perfector> can you record conversations in skype
[12:12] <rhelic> numbmind: is your heating electric?
[12:12] <numbmind> no ive had my hdtv for a year
[12:12] <numbmind> heating is hot water
[12:12] <Bjarty> f
[12:12] <rhelic> numbmind: and what makes the water hot? gas?
[12:12] <rhelic> the water doesn't magically get hot :P
[12:12] <numbmind> true
[12:13] <numbmind> i guess it uses electricity
[12:13] <rhelic> numbmind: maybe lately the wife runs your HD tv all day, even when she's abo
[12:13] <numbmind> no wife
[12:13] <rhelic> numbmind: I'm almost sure your hot water is natural gas, electric would be c
[12:13] <numbmind> ya i think its gas
[12:13] <Relmy> im gonna hack all you fucks
[12:13] <rhelic> numbmind: new PC?
[12:14] <Relmy> #dcemu is taking over the network
[12:14] <numbmind> only new electronics ive goten in the time fraim is new lcd monitor. and i
[12:14] <Relmy> FUCK EFNET
[12:14] <numbmind> nope
[12:14] <numbmind> i still gotta talk to my bro about it
[12:14] <numbmind> ask him if he has any ideas
[12:14] <rhelic> numbmind: were you in this place last year and exp a price increase then?
[12:14] <deww> numbmind: check to see if your cost per kilowatt has increased
[12:14] <numbmind> yes was here a year ago and no increase
[12:14] <numbmind> nope hasnt
[12:14] <rhelic> numbmind: hmm, something is a factor
[12:14] <numbmind> i checked
[12:14] <deww> numbmind: and if someone is leeching from you guys
[12:15] <numbmind> ya im going to call hydro
[12:15] <deww> like the extra extension cord
[12:15] <rhelic> hehe, yea is there a 50 foot extension cord on the side of your house? :P
[12:15] <numbmind> lol duno
[12:15] <deww> been there. done it.
[12:15] <deww> haha
[12:15] <rhelic> deww!
[12:16] <sparrw> deww: it continues to bother me that you make a false distinction between "l
[12:16] <rhelic> numbmind: you didn't install a new video card ?
[12:16] <numbmind> umm no
[12:16] <rhelic> some of the videos cards waste a ton of power
[12:17] <numbmind> i just got a hd cable box but it wuldnt have been used in the billing peri
[12:17] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Is this brand of monitor well known? and is 70$ a good bargain fo
[12:18] <K_Dallas> (this is from a friend of a friend)
[12:18] <sparrw> numbmind: check with your electric company. some places they estimate for m
[12:18] <numbmind> ya im going tob e giving them a call
[12:19] <rhelic> K_Dallas: as long as there's not a bad line or a ton of bad pixels, sounds d
[12:19] <K_Dallas> rhelic, i see. I havent seen it but I can check that out. Thanks
[12:19] <deww> sparrw: it doesn't bother me. but if there's a black and white distinction tha
[12:20] <rhelic> K_Dallas: heh, woot had it for $109 in July 2006
[12:20] <K_Dallas> lol good to know ;)
[12:20] <rhelic> http://www.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=830725
[12:20] <rhelic> so for $70, it better be in perfect condition
[12:20] <K_Dallas> thanks, gonna check that out
[12:21] <mrpockets> dude
[12:21] <rhelic> well it might not be that exact model, they have a few different 19" models
[12:21] <mrpockets> so i've got my resume here, but the only file i can find is PDF
[12:21] <mrpockets> so eh
[12:21] <sparrw> deww: well, ok then, my question of the hour...
[12:21] <mrpockets> whats the easiest way of editing that?
[12:21] <rhelic> mrpockets: you're screwed, PDF is horrible for editing
[12:22] <mrpockets> :(
[12:22] <rhelic> you're better off remaking it if you lost the original
[12:22] <rhelic> backup, backup, backup!
[12:22] <mrpockets> lol
[12:22] <numbmind> cant you output pdf to diff formats?
[12:22] <mrpockets> yeah, i damn near lost this one too
[12:22] <miltiadis> guys what is the corresponding chanserv service in efnet?
[12:22] <mrpockets> there isnt one
[12:22] <mrpockets> this is the undernet motha fucka
[12:22] <ial> miltiadis: there is only www.chanfix.com
[12:22] <sparrw> I want to do photo compositing for people, specifically green screen my phot
[12:22] <phisher1> mrpockets: watch the language..and this is not undernet.
[12:22] <Vucjak> hi
[12:22] <RBL> services: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your
[12:22] <mrpockets> not Undernet
[12:22] <mrpockets> its THE undernet
[12:22] <sparrw> What is the best way to approach that problem?
[12:22] <mrpockets> ;-)
[12:23] <miltiadis> ok thanks
[12:23] <deww> sparrw: consult an attorney.
[12:23] <deww> ^_^
[12:23] <Vucjak> hi
[12:23] <phisher1> hi Vucjak
[12:23] <Vucjak> hey
[12:23] <rhelic> numbmind: PDF is kind of like carving text in stone, I use to work with them
[12:23] <mrpockets> yeah
[12:23] <Vucjak> your age
[12:23] <mrpockets> i mean i can copy the text
[12:23] <mrpockets> but not the formating
[12:23] <phisher1> vucjak: this is not a social channel
[12:24] <rhelic> mrpockets: have fun with it :)
[12:24] <Vucjak> sorry ingrored that
[12:24] <Vucjak> who is rapper here
[12:24] <rhelic> Vucjak: this isn't a social channel
[12:24] <rhelic> Vucjak: take it to #global
[12:24] <Vucjak> so what
[12:25] <deww> Vucjak: probably the wrong channel to ask. check irchelp.org/chanlist
[12:25] <mrpockets> lol thanks man
[12:25] * phisher1 waits for the profanity
[12:25] <mrpockets> yeahn i think ima reboot into windows and refab this sonuvabitch by hand
[12:25] <mrpockets> ...so to speak.
[12:25] <Vucjak> this stinks
[12:25] <phisher1> this is a help channel ...
[12:25] <rhelic> Vucjak: bye!
[12:25] <Vucjak> bye
[12:26] <rhelic> see, positive re-enforcement :)
[12:26] <mrpockets> theres like, an idle #helpo chan though
[12:26] <mrpockets> isnt there?
[12:26] <sparrw> deww: that is far too expensive (as i know from my current legal troubles)
[12:27] <rhelic> sparr_: if these pics are just for private use, who cares, just do it
[12:27] <rhelic> as long as you don't advertise you'd put people in front of the Disney castl
[12:27] <rhelic> if they want to bring in some picture, heck, fair use in my book
[12:29] <chains> deww: it's finished writing inodes
[12:29] <chains> now it says
[12:29] <chains> Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information:
[12:29] <chains> and waiting for me to type something
[12:29] <chains> can i just hit enter?
[12:29] <MrPockets> im back
[12:30] <deww> chains: it should say "done" and return to the prompt later
[12:30] <chains> Writing inode tables: done
[12:30] <chains> inode.i_blocks = 143144, i_size = 4243456
[12:30] <chains> Creating journal (8192 blocks): done
[12:30] <chains> Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information:
[12:30] <deww> chains: it's still writing the info
[12:30] <chains> ah
[12:30] <chains> jesus this is taking forever
[12:31] <deww> maybe you did a -c or something checking for badblocks
[12:31] <deww> or there's an issue with the usb connection
[12:31] <krisp> would have done the check earlier
[12:31] <phisher1> ehh, does it even do a check on mkfs ?
[12:31] <chains> i didn't use -c
[12:31] <chains> and there was a minor issue with the usb connection
[12:32] <chains> but shouldn't really be an issue
[12:32] <chains> the rectangle was slightly bent so it was difficult to plug in at first
[12:32] <phisher1> how big is the partition ?
[12:35] * Activator is now known as activator
[12:36] <deww> 500GB
[12:37] <phisher1> on usb 1.1
[12:37] <wsp420> hey I was gone 1 night and my roomate used my computer, he deleted my histor
[12:37] <chains> should be usb2
[12:37] <chains> possibly not though
[12:37] <phisher1> wsp420: beat your roommate
[12:38] <chains> not sure how to verify
[12:38] <wsp420> no way to tell what sites he was going to
[12:38] <wsp420> ?
[12:38] <deww> wsp420: no
[12:38] <wsp420> dam I think he is gay
[12:40] <deww> possibly
[12:40] <deww> clearing your history won't clear your passwords tho
[12:40] <phisher1> using firefox?
[12:40] <wsp420> if its checked
[12:40] <wsp420> yeah
[12:40] <phisher1> default is to clear passwords in 'clear private data' I believe
[12:40] <wsp420> plus I liked my highlights
[12:41] <wsp420> :(
[12:41] <phisher1> the point of being able to delete the history is so it can't be retrieved
[12:42] <et_> it doesnt perform an overwrite on the fly though
[12:42] <et_> so i would think the data is still there
[12:42] <wsp420> the feds can figure it out
[12:43] * K_Dallas thinks that people have to have a guest account or seomthing seperate from their
[12:43] <phisher1> i think that would be a waste of resources just to find out of your roomma
[12:43] <wsp420> I dont want people jhacking off on my chair
[12:43] <chains> is there a way to tell if the usb interface in use is using 2.0?
[12:44] <K_Dallas> chains my usb stick flashes different lights depending on the USB version
[12:44] <et_> device manager?
[12:44] <chains> K_Dallas: i have a usb hdd plugged in but i don't know if it's using 1 or 2
[12:44] <K_Dallas> chains, besides you can check the transfer speed
[12:44] <chains> i'm using linux for 1
[12:44] <chains> and 2, i'm still waiting for this damn drive to finish formatting
[12:44] <K_Dallas> tranasfer a single big file and see what speed you get
[12:45] <chains> i think i'm gonna pull the plug on this thing
[12:45] <chains> try another port/cable
[12:46] <chains> something isn't right
[12:46] <chains> that's for sure
[12:46] * activator is now known as Activator
[12:49] * intx_ is now known as intx
[12:52] <argus> is this efnet's help?
[12:53] <krister> yes
[12:53] <phisher1> this is #help on EFnet
[12:53] <krister> yes, more correctly
[12:53] <goppp_> hey where would I get cheap, a Parallel based hp jet direct printer server
[12:53] <argus> oh, nevermind, my problem just solved itselft
[12:53] * argus is now known as Allmont
[12:53] <goppp_> where would I find a cheap one for one printer, act as a printer server
[12:53] <goppp_> I need for work
[12:54] <goppp_> I seen one at buy.com for 130
[12:54] <deww> goppp_: ebay for used maybe
[12:54] <goppp_> oh
[12:55] <goppp_> I saw this one
[12:55] <goppp_> http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-jetdirect-170x-external-print-server-ethernet-802
[12:55] <goppp_> but to much
[12:55] <goppp_> do they make one for just one printer
[12:59] <chains> not sure what's up with this drive
[12:59] <chains> i restarted the format
[12:59] <chains> it flies through the first bit
[13:00] <nsfw> lol
[13:00] <chains> but slows down incredibly
[13:00] <chains> after the 1000 mark
[13:00] <chains> [root@deng-jande mnt]# /sbin/mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb1
[13:00] <chains> mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[13:00] <chains> max_blocks 4294967295, rsv_groups = 131072, rsv_gdb = 994
[13:00] <chains> Filesystem label=
[13:00] <chains> OS type: Linux
[13:00] <chains> Block size=4096 (log=2)
[13:00] <chains> Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
[13:00] <chains> 61063168 inodes, 122096000 blocks
[13:00] <chains> 6104800 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
[13:00] <chains> First data block=0
[13:00] <chains> Maximum filesystem blocks=4294967296
[13:00] <deww> chains: it's good now?
[13:00] <chains> 3727 block groups
[13:00] <chains> 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
[13:00] <chains> 16384 inodes per group
[13:00] <deww> badblocks maybe
[13:00] <chains> Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912,
[13:00] <chains> Writing inode tables: 1664/3727
[13:00] <chains> deww, i switched the usb port
[13:00] <chains> and restarted
[13:01] <chains> and having the same problem
[13:01] <chains> it's a brand new drive
[13:01] <chains> never been used
[13:01] <deww> yah but does that mean it is free from errors? ^_^
[13:01] <chains> yes!
[13:01] <chains> i mean no!
[13:02] <chains> i mean, how do i check?!
[13:02] <krisp> bad block check
[13:02] <imafrog> lol
[13:02] <chains> bad block check
[13:02] <chains> command not found
[13:02] <krisp> make a dosfs on it
[13:02] <krisp> instead of ext2
[13:02] <krisp> see what happens
[13:02] <krisp> try fat32
[13:03] <chains> /sbin/mkfs -t fat32 /dev/sdb1
[13:03] <imafrog> defrag wiykd fux he bad block
[13:03] <krisp> or vfat, ntfs
[13:04] <chains> krisp: what different will the fs type make?
[13:04] <imafrog> nothing
[13:04] <chains> didn't think so
[13:04] <chains> so whats the point
[13:04] <imafrog> ntfs works etter on ntfs
[13:05] <krisp> write some data to the drive using dd then
[13:05] <krisp> see if it hangs
[13:05] <krisp> then take the drive out of the enclosure and put it in your pc
[13:06] <krisp> and see if it works
[13:06] <krisp> it's probably the enclosure or the usb controller's fault
[13:06] <deww> might be the usb controller on the linux box
[13:07] <krisp> echo :)
[13:07] <imafrog> watch football
[13:08] <dcm> guys someone told me to use spinrite to try fix this drive
[13:08] <dcm> and it got stuck on megabyte 36... for a good 8 hours
[13:08] <imafrog> the actualy hard disk?
[13:08] <dcm> she toast?
[13:08] <chains> hmm
[13:09] <chains> it sure is taking its time
[13:09] <chains> i'm going to grab the drive and try it on a windows machine
[13:09] <chains> is there a way to format it in ext3 on a win box?
[13:09] <krisp> no
[13:09] <krisp> but you can format it fat32 and mount it on the linux box fine
[13:10] <krisp> or ntfs, but you'd probably be better off doing it fat32 since ntfs drivers c
[13:10] <imafrog> est?
[13:10] <krisp> you might be able to format it ext2 using something like partition magic tho
[13:11] <deww> or gparted
[13:11] <deww> chains: do you have another pc to try
[13:11] <[AnTH]> gparted is superior
[13:12] <[AnTH]> IF you can get the graphics working with your chipset
[13:12] <[AnTH]> takes a couple tries
[13:12] <[AnTH]> from my exp
[13:17] * Activator is now known as activator
[13:17] <sparrw> whats up with kicking for cbl listing?
[13:17] <jackal^> huh?
[13:17] <sparrw> someone at my company sent some spam a while back, so our gateway got on the
[13:18] <chains> deww: i'm trying it on my winbox
[13:19] <chains> it's going slow
[13:19] <dcm> does low level formatting zero a drive?
[13:19] <dcm> or just high level
[13:21] <deww> chains: the drive might have issues then
[13:21] <deww> chains: faulty out of the box
[13:22] <deww> dcm: zeroing is known as low level formatting
[13:22] <deww> disk zeroing
[13:23] <dcm> so would you say that after low level formatting and attempted spinrite failing
[13:23] <dcm> my drive is just dead? heh
[13:24] <Gmouth> if its new return it
[13:24] <Gmouth> what brand?
[13:24] <dcm> its not new, WD
[13:24] <dcm> its over the warranty, and even if it wasnt, ive torn apart the usb enclosure
[13:24] <dcm> heh
[13:24] <Gmouth> well then time to buy a new one
[13:25] <dcm> heh. done and done
[13:26] <deww> dcm: if you can actually zero it... yeah
[13:26] <dev_> My girlfriend's best friend told me this morning on IM that my voice makes her
[13:26] <chains> deww: i'm thinking you may be right
[13:26] <chains> i just want to confirm it with a co worker at this piont
[13:26] <deww> dcm: can you use the wdtools to check the drive for issues?
[13:26] <chains> point
[13:26] <chains> man i hate wasting time like this
[13:26] <chains> i just spent 2 hours on this
[13:26] <deww> dev_: means - run
[13:27] <deww> chains: no worries. i'll send you a bill for this.
[13:27] <dcm> deww will do that now
[13:27] <dcm> ty ty
[13:28] <deww> dcm: if it does find an error, replace it i guess
[13:30] <dcm> its a windows based diagnostic eh
[13:30] <dcm> weird
[13:30] <dcm> "diagnostic tools"?
[13:31] <deww> yeah there's a floppy or cdrom bootable one as well
[13:33] <BoBo_Tara> hy
[13:33] <BoBo_Tara> how is name of channel for cod 2 wars?
[13:35] <BoBo_Tara> help plzz?
[13:35] <sparrw> what is cod 2 wars?
[13:35] <chains> deww: make it out to ITA Software
[13:36] <chains> they'll cover my tab
[13:36] <chains> i hope :)
[13:45] * activator is now known as Activator
[13:52] * Activator is now known as activator
[13:55] <Night> What would prevent a given file from appearing within a network folder? I ha
[13:55] <rhelic> that the specific file has it's own permissions
[13:56] <rhelic> just because you have access to a folder, doesn't mean you always get full a
[13:56] <Night> The file does not appear in a folder dir or in explorer, but I can see and ac
[13:57] <Night> cacls shows no differences between the files I can and cannot see.
[13:57] <deww> file name length issues?
[13:58] <Night> All of the filenames are reasonably sized and close to the drive root.
[13:58] <deww> btw, someone mentioned this problem before and we thought they were crazy.
[13:58] <rhelic> deww: well wouldn't it just become filename~.ext
[13:58] <Night> I have 8dot3 filenames disabled, also.
[13:59] <netguru> i've been banned by a channel with reason "banned: requested" it's actually
[13:59] <rhelic> Night: perhaps you should enable it, just to see
[13:59] <Night> deww, I've had the issue with multiple systems and never been able to track d
[13:59] <deww> Night: it might've been you. are the OSes homogenous (sic?)
[14:00] <deww> netguru: bans are usually not specific to users
[14:00] <Night> They were all XP, this is the only x64.
[14:01] <deww> netguru: so they can ban, for example everyone from "Cyprus" and not you speci
[14:01] <netguru> it was more like an auto-ban, do i have to login at a service or smth
[14:01] <deww> no
[14:01] <Night> It's bothersome because I can access the files fine if I do it directly.
[14:01] <deww> Night: hm :/
[14:01] <Night> It's just that they fail to appear in the folder.
[14:01] <netguru> ok got it, thanks
[14:01] <rhelic> Night: what about in DOS?
[14:02] <Night> dir \\unc\path fails to show them, dir \\unc\path\filename does.
[14:02] <Night> If I pass a wildcard, they will sometimes appear.
[14:02] <Night> dir \\unc\path\* fails to show them, dir \\unc\path\*.ext does.
[14:03] <Night> Hmm.
[14:03] <Night> Seems that any matching partial wildcard will show them.
[14:03] <rhelic> Night: what's the filename?
[14:03] <rhelic> copy'n'paste it
[14:03] <rhelic> don't retype it
[14:04] <Night> One sec.
[14:05] <Night> oh wow
[14:05] <Night> some renaming fun
[14:05] <Night> It's only the FIRST TWO filenames.
[14:06] <Haterade-> in the city of blinding lights
[14:06] <Night> no, wait, now it's three filenames
[14:06] <rhelic> Haterade-: yes, typing lyrics is so 1997 cool
[14:06] <Haterade-> it is
[14:06] <Haterade-> I love
[14:06] <Haterade-> its good shiz
[14:06] <Night> wow
[14:06] <Night> and it's related to filename length
[14:07] <Haterade-> barack obama '08
[14:07] <Night> changing the size of the first filename causes multiple files to appear/disap
[14:07] <bizinichi> how do i see upnp shared media with windows media player
[14:07] <Night> if it's long enough, all files appear
[14:11] <Night> and after renaming all the files it's working fine
[14:12] <rhelic> Night: well I wanted ya to paste a filename to see if the chars were not rig
[14:12] <rhelic> although you're running XP right? filenames support some crazy unicode stuf
[14:12] <rhelic> I have a filename that has a TRADEMARK TM in it
[14:12] <rhelic> as in, it's 1 letter
[14:13] <Night> No unusual characters.
[14:13] <rhelic> well I wanted ya to paste it to be sure
[14:13] <Night> I put a copywrite symbol at the start of the filename and it appears fine. :/
[14:14] <Night> Of course, then it's the next two files that disappear.
[14:19] <Night> Even if the filenames are 1, 2, and 3, they disappear.
[14:19] <Night> But if I change another file, they all start showing up.
[14:19] <Haterade-> ok
[14:19] <Haterade-> how do I play over a computer
[14:19] <Haterade-> a music file
[14:19] <Haterade-> but not have a mic
[14:19] <Haterade-> record a music file on my computer
[14:20] <Haterade-> but not have a mic
[14:20] <rhelic> Haterade-: ask the question in a way that makes sense
[14:20] <Haterade-> okay
[14:20] <rhelic> in 1 line :)
[14:20] <Haterade-> how do I play a song over yahoo messenger on my computer without using a
[14:20] <rhelic> over yahoo messenger?
[14:20] <Haterade-> yeah
[14:20] <Haterade-> to play to someone
[14:20] <rhelic> that wasn't a question
[14:21] <Haterade-> but i dont have a mic
[14:21] <Haterade-> how do I play a song over the computer without usi am ic to someone on ya
[14:21] <rhelic> I'm sure there's some utility you can get to reroute the audio
[14:21] <Haterade-> how
[14:21] <rhelic> but why not just send them the song, much easier :P
[14:21] <Haterade-> well what kind of tool
[14:29] <sqwob> I have an overloaded small workfloor network with a normal office adsl connec
[14:30] <rhelik> sqwob: I'd assume some naughty user is doing P2P
[14:31] <sqwob> rhelik: very possible
[14:31] <rhelik> sqwob: if you have a firewall, lock down all the ports except: 80, 21, 23
[14:31] <rhelik> heck, your main router might let you lockdown the ports
[14:32] <rhelik> if you want to be nice, open up: 8000, 8080, 8001 too, some random webserver
[14:32] <headies> i just replaced my cdrom with another harddrive. how can i get it working
[14:33] <rhelik> headies: if the drive is secondary, put the jumper on slave, if not, put it
[14:33] <sqwob> rhelik: thanks, i'll start there
[14:33] <headies> i already set it on slave
[14:34] <rhelik> sqwob: I'd be surprised if that didn't fix it
[14:34] <headies> how can i detect it with my computer
[14:34] <rhelik> you don't
[14:34] <rhelik> oh, well then go to Disk Manager
[14:34] <rhelik> right click My Computer > Manage > Disk Manager (in left side tree)
[14:35] <headies> ok i did that
[14:35] <headies> disk management>
[14:35] <headies> ?
[14:38] <winzor> i want a certain block of text on my website home page to be invisible to se
[14:38] <winzor> how do i do this?
[14:38] <rhelik> how is it not visible now?
[14:38] <winzor> no, it is visible, i want to make it invisible
[14:38] <rhelik> why is it a problem?
[14:39] <winzor> i dont want the disclaimer being in the search, i want site content or other
[14:39] <rhelik> the only way you could do it, is to let PHP or ASP serve the page, and you d
[14:39] <winzor> ah ok
[14:39] <rhelik> so you're problem is the disclaimer shows up in your google result summary?
[14:39] <winzor> yes
[14:39] <winzor> correct
[14:39] <rhelik> what's the search terms to make it show?
[14:40] <winzor> sec
[14:42] <rhelik> I guess you didn't need help that badly :P
[14:45] <headies> hey rhelik, can u help me out with this HDD
[14:45] <winzor> lol no, distraction, what client wants is to hide selected text from bots an
[14:47] <rhelik> and I said, tell me the google search term to make the site show up
[14:47] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Is there some settings to adjust so FireFox remembers login and p
[14:47] <rhelik> K_Dallas: poke around Tools > Options > Security > Passwords
[14:48] <K_Dallas> rhelik, thanks, i will do so
[14:48] <rhelik> K_Dallas: click exceptions and remove any sites if you want to be able to sa
[14:48] <rhelik> DO NOT save your myspace.com password, in fact, add it to exceptions
[14:49] <K_Dallas> i dont do social thing much on the internet, no myspace no facebook ;)
[14:49] <K_Dallas> but there is nothing in the exception
[14:49] <rhelik> there's a way for myspace pages to steal that password, but pretty much not
[14:49] <rhelik> and only in Firefox
[14:49] <K_Dallas> i see, good to know. thanks
[14:50] <lowerp3> trelane_
[14:51] <lowerp3> Treval
[14:51] <lowerp3> are you a fucking jew
[14:52] <MaLoKu> I need help, can I register my nickname here in this server
[14:52] <krisp> nope
[14:52] <Sycho> no you cant
[14:52] <Sycho> not on efnet
[14:52] <rav0> no
[14:52] <MaLoKu> ok thnx
[14:56] <RBL> services: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your
[14:57] <Winten> anyone know how to tell if an email is fake
[14:57] <rhelik> analyze the headers
[14:57] <Winten> ho
[14:57] <Winten> how*
[14:57] <Winten> i run a large private server and i get fake copyright notices all the time b
[14:57] <CuntSlime> I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then
[14:57] <CuntSlime> I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then
[14:57] <CuntSlime> I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then
[14:57] <CuntSlime> I want to castrate a niggger and fry his balls before eating them. Then
[14:57] * wsp420 slaps CuntSlime around a bit with a large trout
[14:58] * wsp420 slaps nila around a bit with a large trout
[14:58] <Winten> rhelik could you elaborate a litte?
[14:59] <rhelik> I don't normallly look into email
[14:59] <Winten> Me neither :S
[14:59] <Winten> this is just an important one
[14:59] <Winten> i looked up the ip of the mail server it supposedly came from and it matches
[15:01] * wsp420 slaps david_ around a bit with a large trout
[15:01] * wsp420 slaps david_ around a bit with a large COCK
[15:04] <ethand> i just installed another hard drive and it is not showing up in disc managem
[15:05] <rhelik> ethand: you need to boot to your BIOS and make it appear there first
[15:05] <rhelik> ethand: normally it does by default, perhaps your master/slave settings are
[15:05] <ethand> how can i do that
[15:05] <ethand> it is set to slave
[15:05] <rhelik> reboot, and when it first turns on you need to hit the DEL key to enter bios
[15:06] <ethand> then will it be self explanitory after that?
[15:11] <hollandb> hey, are there any self-updating boot-cd antiviruses? like livecd's or a
[15:12] <hollandb> i've spent the last day trying to get rid of spyware/viruses from a comput
[15:13] <rhelik> hollandb: which AV? boot into safe mode and run a full scan
[15:13] <hollandb> i did with several, avast, antivir, trend's sysclean, but i don't feel 100
[15:14] <hollandb> i had to use two special programs to seemingly remove all traces one calle
[15:14] * hollandb is now known as Drakonan
[15:14] <[AnTH]> How did you even contract these?
[15:14] <rhelik> Drakonan: well I know NOD32 can detech rootkits
[15:14] <[AnTH]> KAV can
[15:14] <rhelik> Drakonan: but what AV were you using when he was using the PC?
[15:14] <Drakonan> my cousin was on it for 10 minutes, not really sure, but when i saw him he
[15:14] <[AnTH]> lol
[15:14] <[AnTH]> classic
[15:15] <rhelik> Drakonan: that'll learn you for letting ppl use your PC as admin, at the ver
[15:15] <[AnTH]> I just have a poweruser account for noobs
[15:16] <[AnTH]> GPO'd
[15:16] <rhelik> Drakonan: http://PertpetualHypeMachine.com/help/security/
[15:16] <[AnTH]> they cannot install anything
[15:16] <Drakonan> rhelik: they didn't have admin rights! get that? i got hit by two compute
[15:16] <[AnTH]> and a paranoid Process guard
[15:16] <rhelik> Drakonan: I highly doubt you got infect with a non-admin user, assuming you
[15:17] <[AnTH]> salvage your losses and reformat.
[15:17] <[AnTH]> Or next time install deepfreeze and just restart.
[15:17] <[AnTH]> Deny changes = brand new again
[15:17] <rav0> getting malware is easy, regardless of account type
[15:17] <rhelik> Drakonan: I meant http://PerpetualHypeMachine.com/help/security/
[15:17] <rhelik> rav0: ok great, so explain to me how malware can add itself to startup or re
[15:17] <Drakonan> it's true, i have an "internet" computer "hardened" specifically so that n
[15:18] <rhelik> rav0: at best, it might be able to add a toolbar to that user's IE
[15:18] <rav0> i'm not here to teach how to make malware
[15:18] <Drakonan> but while windows updates was up to date, firefox wasn't
[15:18] <Drakonan> maybe that was the attack vector
[15:18] <Drakonan> like i said, i even have an av on it too
[15:18] <rhelik> which AV?
[15:18] <Drakonan> it was avast and i thought avast was pretty good
[15:18] <rhelik> that's the 3rd time I've asked
[15:19] <Drakonan> but i switched to antivir
[15:19] <rhelik> eh, I've seen both AVG and Avast get compromised, they aren't "good enough"
[15:19] <lowerp3> I AM
[15:19] <lowerp3> MEGATRON
[15:22] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[15:25] <devan5> maybe someone can help me i am writing a html form, i am trying to have the
[15:25] <lowerp3> no
[15:26] <rhelik> devan5: store it in session variables, or just save each form to your databa
[15:27] <rhelik> devan5: trying to "carry" the data from one page and inserting into the next
[15:27] <rhelik> the database is the best way
[15:27] <devan5> oh hey rhelik i figured out a lot since last time, ya i know but see the w
[15:28] <devan5> "Free quot now" First name, last name, zip code, then "get quote now" th
[15:29] <rhelik> in Firefox, is theer a way to forge a Download link (ex: Google attachments)
[15:29] <rhelik> iow, I want to pick where it saves, instead of the default (desktop)
[15:29] <rhelik> devan5: no offense, but re-explaining it doesn't change my answer
[15:29] <devan5> oh ok i was just making sure you understood what i was saying
[15:31] <rhelik> if you wanted to just be lazy, you could put placeholders in the seciond for
[15:32] <Rune99> whatup
[15:32] <Rune99> what do u do if u are banned from a room
[15:32] <rhelik> Rune99: not go there anymore
[15:32] <devan5> ya i might just take the lazy way out until i get some time to really read u
[15:32] <Rune99> will they ever let u in again
[15:33] <rhelik> <inpu
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