Log for #help on 2008-02-08


Session Start: Fri Feb 08 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:01] <blc> meh.. IT has been fiddling with my puter while i was gone..
[00:01] <blc> so now i can't open that page
[00:28] <ATTHEBAR> hi does anyone here play SWG? it wont let me subscribe
[00:29] <Apollon> is there a way to completely close the treebar in mirc 6.31?
[00:29] * ATTHEBAR is now known as tetly
[00:31] <Abosherpa> Hey there... are there any techs on who is familiar with antivirus :(
[00:32] <Apollon> not all at once please
[00:32] <Abosherpa> {{ £åügHîñg Øüt £öüÐ }}
[00:32] <Abosherpa> I was wondering if anyone knows anything about that stupid wkssvc.exe vir
[00:32] <Abosherpa> My g/f I think has it.. and has antivirus and it's fully updated... but n
[00:34] <Apollon> thanks for your help
[00:39] <tetly> can someone give me advice im trying to subscribe to swg but it says error ea
[00:40] <Ifrit> star wars galaxies?
[00:42] <tetly> yes
[00:42] <tetly> when i try to subscribe it says there has been an error
[00:45] <Ifrit> how many SWG players did you expect to find here?
[00:46] <Ifrit> i think you'd be better off contacting Sony Online Entertainment support
[00:47] <tetly> i think you should dial 1-800-fuck-off
[00:48] <Ifrit> that's not very polite
[00:48] <Ifrit> besides, in my country that would be an invalid number
[00:51] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[00:52] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:22] <sunra> hi. does it seem feasible that I can get a microSD usb card reader for 10 cen
[01:22] <sunra> or is this suspicious?
[01:22] <blc> considering they are practically thrown after you anywhere else, it's feasible.
[01:23] <blc> trying to scam people for 10 cents wouldn't be very lucrative anyway
[01:23] <sunra> haha not scamming for the 10 cents but maybe being able to access some accoun
[01:25] <blc> that would be new to me..
[01:25] <sunra> ok
[01:28] <sunra> k take care dudes
[01:30] <john-l> oh we will. we. will.
[01:38] <pasta> does anybody need help?
[01:40] <blc> nope
[01:41] <tetly> i do but i just am met with raggity crass remards and no answers
[01:41] <john-l> sort of like that raggity crass remark?
[01:41] <blc> tetly: you were the one with the swg thing?
[01:44] <tetly> yes blc
[01:44] <blc> moron...
[01:50] <john-l> i recognize that ip
[01:52] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:12] * shockeroo is now known as SEriya
[02:13] * SEriya is now known as Seriya
[02:17] <Joshyboy> how do I register with server?
[02:17] <iroiro> no services here
[02:17] <Joshyboy> so wtf happens than?
[02:17] <Joshyboy> you don't even register? or is there a net split?
[02:17] <blc> there are no registration services on efnet
[02:17] <Joshyboy> oh really
[02:17] <Joshyboy> how do people maintain op?
[02:18] <Joshyboy> or not like forge someone elses account?
[02:18] <blc> first come first serve
[02:18] <iroiro> bnc
[02:18] <Joshyboy> oh ok
[02:18] <Joshyboy> hmm
[02:18] <Joshyboy> that's dodgey
[02:18] <Joshyboy> but I suppose there's thousands of people on this server so...
[02:18] <blc> it's irc's version of anarchy
[02:19] <Joshyboy> lol
[02:19] <blc> and yes.. there's a lot of people here
[02:19] <iroiro> well, i've taken this nickname, iroiro, and noone else takes it, so here i a
[02:52] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:52] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:20] <john-l> fuck, looks like some bastard's going to steal a dvd off me on ebay because
[04:20] <john-l> anyone know how to prevent this
[04:20] <john-l> 13 hrs to go, hopefully i get some activity
[04:25] <Joshyboy> can't you withdraw your item?
[04:27] <john-l> not after the bastard's bid on it
[04:28] <john-l> i've got two watched with 13.5 hrs to go. so hopefully they get into a nasty
[04:28] <john-l> and 18 visits in 2 days
[04:28] <john-l> watchers
[04:30] <john-l> its a good thing i raised the min bid to 99 cents
[04:30] <john-l> i had it originally at a penny
[04:56] <Basmaster> can I take 2X 48V 1 Amp DC adapters and tie them together to get 1X 48V 2
[04:56] <Basmaster> ?
[05:03] <Hastor> Basmaster: no you would und up with 96v, i dunno about the other numbers
[05:04] <Hastor> but like you tie together two 1.5v AA batteries to power a 3v device
[05:05] <belter> volts increase, amps stay the same
[05:06] <blc> Basmaster: if you put + to + and - to -, yes
[05:07] <Hastor> anyone ever used a motion detector powered by a 9v battery that is always on
[05:08] <compdoc> I have infrared detectors installed in my house, but they dont run on batte
[05:09] <Hastor> yeah i just installed a wireless security system, motion detectors (which al
[05:09] <Hastor> they indicate low battery, havent had it happen yet but only got it yesterda
[05:09] <compdoc> my gf has battery operated stuff. I'll ask her this weekend
[05:10] <Hastor> also have one door sensor that detects when a magnet is moved that just broa
[05:10] <compdoc> yep
[05:10] <belter> lame
[05:10] <Hastor> im just surprised a motion sensor/300ft(advertised range) radio transmitter
[05:11] <Basmaster> thx blc
[05:11] <blc> anytime
[05:12] <blc> Basmaster: for records sake.. what everyone else here was thinking about was le
[05:12] <Basmaster> ya they were thinking to do them in sequence, that i've done, unfortunatl
[05:13] <belter> if you manually terminating power supply connectors, something is wrong
[05:13] <compdoc> they sell psu testing devices
[05:13] <compdoc> I wouldnt be attaching wires
[05:13] * blue_moon is now known as blue^moon
[05:14] <Basmaster> ya volt meter i have don't go high enuf, gotta invest in much better one
[05:14] <belter> i can put me leads in a wall outlet
[05:15] <belter> don't have a tester for 240v though
[05:18] <blc> mine goes up to 480 volts
[05:19] <down2u> is it true that... Buffalo Tech no longer makes.. routers? ? ?? ? ? ?
[05:20] <blc> dunno, but it's true you're more likely to be ignore based on the amount of ? y
[05:20] <blc> ignored*
[05:21] <down2u> o
[05:28] <Basmaster> mine does 480 but only reads 1A, cheap ratshack one lol
[05:32] <blc> i can clamp up to 630 a with this one.. :P
[05:44] <bizinichi> is there something like a word cloud option in ms word.. i want to see wh
[05:45] <compdoc> word count?
[05:46] <bizinichi> no. thats not the same thing
[05:46] <bizinichi> think of it as the tag clouds you see on flickr
[05:46] <bizinichi> i want to see that for my word document
[05:47] <bizinichi> like i know ive said "knowledge" way too many times on my philosophy pape
[05:47] <compdoc> what program does do that?
[05:47] <bizinichi> flickr and most web 2.0 websites have tag clouds, why cant ms word have a
[05:48] <compdoc> oh, you mentioned flickr
[05:49] <bizinichi> something like this: http://www.usingenglish.com/resources/text-statistic
[05:49] <bizinichi> i hate having to paste my paper in there
[05:50] <compdoc> sure, but at least you have that
[05:52] <over9000> ok so i didnt pay my internets bill...i cant use http...but ftp/mirc work
[05:52] <compdoc> word does have readability statistics, but it doesnt seem to be what you wa
[05:53] <ebbtepid> i am trying to get apache to work with a folder that is different to the h
[05:53] <compdoc> over9000, I know how
[05:53] <jackal^> pay it :P
[05:53] <over9000> may i pm you?
[05:53] <compdoc> pay your internets bill
[05:53] <over9000> broke till later today
[05:54] <compdoc> cool
[05:54] <compdoc> Im broke till next week, when my house sells
[05:54] <over9000> can i have a dollar?
[05:54] <compdoc> amazing that it works at all
[05:55] <over9000> i wonder what else will work
[05:57] <benchpres> i need a video card to support a dual monitor setup and it needs to be PC
[05:59] <Swift> I would go to newegg and check out what they have there along with the review
[06:06] <deli_> if u know how to get ur dick out of a beer bottle (dont ask) PM ME plZ immedi
[06:08] <CowNose> sounds like a medical question
[06:10] <Swift> lol
[06:12] <deww> can you theoretically host your own shell using amazon's EC2?
[06:12] <phisher1> oO
[06:14] * Ifrit- is now known as Ifrit
[06:21] <compdoc> look at pics of margaret thatcher
[06:22] <deww> why?
[06:22] <CowNose> is she hot
[06:22] <compdoc> to get his little dong out of the bottle :)
[06:22] <CowNose> LOL
[06:33] <ThyEff> hey guys.
[06:33] <ThyEff> quick question.
[06:33] <ThyEff> will it make a diff if i pumped petrol into my vtech engine from a diff petr
[06:34] <ThyEff> http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=what+will+happen+if+i+pump+petrol+from+dif
[06:34] <RBL> <ThyEff> http://tinyurl.com/2byrq8
[06:34] <compdoc> told them 95 for all the stations?
[06:34] <compdoc> dont know what that means
[06:35] <ThyEff> RBL>?
[06:35] <ThyEff> Compdoc> its the type of petrol, i'm guessing
[06:36] <compdoc> I buy gas from whatever station Im closest to
[06:36] <ThyEff> well. what if you go by a differnt station?
[06:36] <ThyEff> like a road trip or msth. then you see ANOTHE station.
[06:36] * TheMan_ is now known as rhelic
[06:36] <compdoc> one that doesnt accept your card?
[06:36] <ThyEff> i usually pump my gas at caltex, but i was stanrded thats why i went to esso
[06:37] <ThyEff> i pay cash. but i'm worried about the gas the pump into ma ride.
[06:37] <CowNose> where do you live ThyEff?
[06:38] <ThyEff> singapore. lolzoeroasrna
[06:38] <compdoc> as long as the octane works...
[06:38] <CowNose> some countries, all gas is the same, others... you must be more carefull
[06:38] <ThyEff> i know. abit irrelvent. but i thought you guys knew some answer.
[06:38] <ThyEff> :S
[06:38] <CowNose> 3rd world countries can have crappy gas
[06:38] <ThyEff> well the goverment says we're 1st world country
[06:38] <ThyEff> not very sure about that.
[06:39] <CowNose> in places like india, you see many trucks, because trucks can handle the cr
[06:39] <ThyEff> anyway. i pumped at shell, caltex, and esso.
[06:39] <bizinichi> does this sentence sound ok? i am concerned about the bit after impregnab
[06:39] <ThyEff> and they all costs differnt price. meaning differnt 95 octanes are put into
[06:39] <CowNose> what do you drive theyff?
[06:39] <ThyEff> honda Civic V.tech 1.6L
[06:41] <compdoc> tiny little thing
[06:41] <CowNose> ThyEff my advice is to just use your best judgement when picking a station
[06:41] <CowNose> biznichi: No, that doesn't look right
[06:41] <compdoc> my ranger has a 3.0L
[06:42] <bizinichi> CowNose whats wrong with it, its replaceable with 'impossible' and then i
[06:42] <CowNose> "With such a vigorous method for justifying knowledge, it is virtually impo
[06:42] <ThyEff> best judgement? i told them, 95. they said: yes yes. ok. 95. but i saw like
[06:43] <bizinichi> why cant i fllow up the [to .... ] phrase after 'impregnable'
[06:43] <bizinichi> *follow
[06:43] <bizinichi> but i can with 'impossible'
[06:44] <CowNose> in john's framework."
[06:44] <ThyEff> well lets say, worse case scenenario, they pumped a inferior 95octane into m
[06:44] <CowNose> short term, it won't be a problem, long term it is bad for the engine
[06:45] <CowNose> ie: if you keep pumping inferior gas the engine will have problems, but for
[06:45] <CowNose> just get better gas next time and it will all be clear
[06:45] <bizinichi> yeah thats why i said 'within john's framework'
[06:45] <ThyEff> okay. i'm sticking with caltex :|
[06:46] <CowNose> biznachi: yes perhaps just replace impregnible with impossible, however the
[06:46] <ThyEff> thanks guys.
[06:46] <ThyEff> nights
[06:46] <bizinichi> thats why i didnt want to use it
[06:46] <bizinichi> :/
[06:47] <CowNose> can rephrase the whole thing, let me try
[06:47] <CowNose> "With such a vigorous method for justifying knowledge, it is very difficul
[06:48] <CowNose> ?
[06:48] <bizinichi> hm
[06:48] <bizinichi> yeah that works
[06:48] <bizinichi> thanks
[06:50] <CowNose> don't be too attached to your own words when your revising a draft, a good
[06:51] <bizinichi> i dont know if you want to read my paper once i finish it. its supposed t
[06:51] <bizinichi> its a 1000 words hopefully
[06:51] <CowNose> if its just 1k words I'll read it
[07:00] <benchpres> as far as the spacing of the plate and screws on the back of an LCD, is i
[07:02] <compdoc> they tend to be the same
[07:02] <compdoc> its a standard
[07:03] <bizinichi> CowNose one sec this might take a bit of time as i edit and write some mo
[07:04] <CowNose> np
[07:05] <ForgeAus> um I know this isn't undernet, but I got klined from there because I hadn'
[07:05] <ForgeAus> and it tried to connect with a username root
[07:05] <ASk> ForgeAus: and what do you want us to do about it
[07:05] <ASk> it's not like we magically control what happens on other irc networks
[07:05] <ForgeAus> can someone help me? (like log into undernet and ask them if they can remo
[07:06] <ForgeAus> yeah I know ASk
[07:06] <ASk> your kline will likely get removed in due time
[07:06] <ForgeAus> but since I can't log in there I need a proxy
[07:06] <ForgeAus> oh ok they don't last do they?
[07:13] <bizinichi> whats another way to say 'on the other hand' when connecting two sentence
[07:17] <CowNose> besides
[07:18] <CowNose> however
[07:18] <CowNose> therefore
[07:18] <CowNose> whereas
[07:20] * Mafaioz is now known as \whois
[07:20] <Sculptor> friday!
[07:20] * \whois is now known as Mafaioz
[07:22] <Oblivion> what is a good measurement for joules shown on a surge protector? For inst
[07:27] <bizinichi> ok CowNose, im upping it to zshare
[07:27] <deww> that's how much it can absorb
[07:27] * Phiber0pt is now known as Hey-Zeus
[07:27] <deww> in the case of a surge
[07:28] <deww> not how many devices you can plug in
[07:31] <bizinichi> CowNose http://www.mediafire.com/?6ldk3gblcgn
[07:32] * Hey-Zeus is now known as Phiber0pt
[07:37] <Oblivion> deww what equation can i use to measure how many devices I can use on a 10
[07:43] <ender-> If i buy an SVGA cable and try to display a resolution like 1920x1200 with i
[07:44] <TraMcLady> Chat blotters are blowingup
[07:44] <TraMcLady> must be Friday
[07:44] <CowNose> isn;t an SVGA cable just a regular digital monitor cable?
[07:45] <CowNose> and if so shouldn't it work for any resolution your monitor can support
[07:45] <KosheeN> I need to EXport Contacts from Microsoft Outlook. to export, it says i have
[07:46] <TraMcLady> HDMI is a digital connection that carries video and audio. More important
[07:46] <TraMcLady> I have never seen an adapter that will add HDMI ports to a television or
[07:46] <TraMcLady> Even though your HDTV lacks HDMI, you may not be out of luck. Your televi
[07:46] <TraMcLady> DVI connections look very different than HDMI ones. Nonetheless, DVI is a
[07:46] <TraMcLady> You can purchase cables that bridge HDMI and DVI. One end has a DVI plug.
[07:46] <TraMcLady> If your television lacks a DVI or HDMI connection, you’re stuck. You’re n
[07:46] <TraMcLady> However, you could use component video cables. Component video is an anal
[07:46] <TraMcLady> Component cables are capable of transmitting high-definition video. But y
[07:46] <ender-> CowNose: i went looking for a 50' cable to hook up my projector and they are
[07:46] <TraMcLady> there you go Cow Nose
[07:46] <TraMcLady> i posted that for your question
[07:46] <TraMcLady> <CowNose> isn;t an SVGA cable just a regular digital monitor cable?
[07:46] <TraMcLady> *
[07:47] <TraMcLady> However, you could use component video cables. Component video is an anal
[07:47] <TraMcLady> <TraMcLady> Component cables are capable of transmitting high-defin
[07:48] <rhelic> that and the fact you can't really push 1080p over analog anyways
[07:48] <ender-> so basically CowNose, VGA/SVGA/ETC cables arnt digital, they're analog
[07:48] <ender-> still doesnt answer my question about the diff between them
[07:48] <rhelic> different formats for different purposes
[07:49] <deww> Oblivion: again, that number (joules) is how much it can take in case of power
[07:49] <deww> Oblivion: good read http://computer.howstuffworks.com/surge-protector.htm
[07:49] <rhelic> correct, HDMI, DVI & DisplayPort are the only digital standards
[07:49] <CowNose> ender, buy them all, use what works (like compare the ends to the end) and
[07:50] <TraMcLady> cownose is you nose shaped more like a cow or a pig?
[07:50] <ender-> great advice CowNose, or how about i just buy the one capable of displaying
[07:50] <TraMcLady> cuz i get those two confused
[07:50] <Oblivion> if the Surge protector has the ability to plug 5 devices in total to it th
[07:50] <TraMcLady> jk
[07:50] <rhelic> ender-: what is the cable plugging into, what is it for?
[07:50] <ender-> my pc, my projector
[07:50] <rhelic> is the projector 1080p?
[07:50] <ender-> no
[07:51] <rhelic> what is it?
[07:51] <CowNose> TraMcLady I'm more shaped like a fatass cat
[07:51] <ender-> but i run 1080p to my monitor so my desktop is in that res
[07:51] * TooCool is now known as Bolian
[07:51] <ender-> i think it's SVGA
[07:51] <rhelic> SVGA isn't a resolution
[07:51] <ender-> 800x600 native
[07:51] <Van_Aoshi> how can i set the default for all folders to list fies by name instead of
[07:51] * Bolian is now known as TooCool
[07:51] <ender-> sorry they refer to a projector with 800x600 native as an SVGA projector
[07:51] <Van_Aoshi> i checked folder options
[07:52] <ender-> but it will do most resolutions
[07:52] <rhelic> ender-: well then that's the res you have to use, and a VGA cable is more th
[07:53] <ender-> okay, but again if im pushing out 1920x1200 to it, regardless of what it wil
[07:54] <rhelic> ender-: if the projector displays it, then all it does is downsample to 800x
[07:54] <ender-> i sure as hell dont wanna run it as 800x600
[07:54] <rhelic> well buy a better projector
[07:54] <rhelic> you obviously don't understand what's going on here
[07:54] <ender-> dude, ok im done, u dont understand what im asking
[07:54] <rhelic> 1920x1200 won't look any better than 800x600 on that projector
[07:54] <rhelic> perhaps, but you don't understand resolution and lcd technology
[07:54] <ender-> no shit but it will on my monitor that is a clone of the projector
[07:55] <ender-> ok
[07:55] <rhelic> ok, well if the projector downsamples, then go for it
[07:55] <rhelic> but realize small text would be unreadable
[07:56] <rhelic> VGA cable is enough to handle some very high resolutions
[07:56] <ender-> im not here asking about what resolution to use, just what cable to buy, the
[07:57] <TraMcLady> someone doesnt have patience
[07:57] <rhelic> how long is the cable going to be?
[07:57] <ender-> 50'
[07:58] <ender-> TraMcLady: me? i asked in the first place about cables, then i get this huge
[07:58] <ender-> losing my patience is more like it
[07:58] <rhelic> we're nerds
[07:58] <CowNose> lol..
[07:58] <CowNose> thats what you get for free IRC #help channel ;)
[07:59] <ender-> tru
[07:59] <CowNose> pony up some ISK and I help you more
[07:59] <rhelic> ender-: you're probably going to need a repeater to do that, I don't think a
[07:59] <ender-> http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=35
[07:59] <rhelic> I mean, you'll still see an image, but you'll lose quality
[07:59] <ender-> thats teh one im lookin at
[08:00] <ender-> according to the description "Going 100ft and beyond...no problem."
[08:00] <rhelic> hmm, well if they claim it works...
[08:00] <rhelic> I'd say check Amazon/NewEgg for reviews
[08:01] <rhelic> it has 2 reviews at 5/5
[08:01] <rhelic> it's only $45 at NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Subm
[08:01] <rhelic> the AMC is only $20, and has 18 reviews at 5/5
[08:01] <rhelic> I'd get that instead
[08:02] <ender-> yea, good price
[08:02] <BIJJ> anyone know anything about a CD/IRA bank account
[08:03] <BIJJ> is anyone here
[08:04] <rhelic> nope
[08:04] <BIJJ> rhelic.. sup
[08:04] <BIJJ> do you know anything about cd/ira
[08:05] <rhelic> nope
[08:05] <rhelic> perhaps I need to stress the NO part of NOPE
[08:06] <Ox40> anyone know how to get cool listings in google? You know, the ones with little
[08:06] <TraMcLady> no, there are too cool for me
[08:06] <rhelic> Ox40: you mean http://directory.google.com/
[08:06] <rhelic> aka Yahoo style
[08:07] <Ox40> nope
[08:07] <phisher1> no
[08:07] <rhelic> got an example?
[08:07] <Ox40> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ebay
[08:07] <phisher1> where certain results will have direct links to certain parts of their web
[08:07] <rhelic> ahh
[08:07] <Ox40> like the first one there...
[08:07] <rhelic> Knowing Google, that's entirely automated, based upon the site's ranking
[08:08] <Ox40> ok... well i gotta go
[08:08] <Ox40> thanks
[08:08] <rhelic> Google never likes to do anything manual in their search results
[08:09] <rhelic> hmm, I can't tell if the FireFox2 update fixed my instalibility issues or no
[08:09] <TraMcLady> what was the instability
[08:13] <rhelic> TraMcLady: http://www.perpetualhypemachine.com/pix/StillWorks.jpg
[08:14] <rhelic> I suspect as my power flucuates, my CPU mobo doesn't have enough power, and
[08:25] * clz is now known as Clz
[08:29] <mega`> is there a shortcut key in IE7 to change text size, without zooming the whole
[08:29] <phisher1> to change like.. selected text size?
[08:30] <mega`> no, the whole page text
[08:30] <phisher1> ctrl-+
[08:30] <mega`> it zooms in/out images together with text
[08:31] <phisher1> well i dunno about ie
[08:31] <phisher1> i don't use ie =\
[08:31] <rhelic> mega`: that's considered an improvement
[08:31] <mega`> i also dont use ie most of the time
[08:31] <rhelic> because in webdesign, so many pages depend on the width of the text
[08:31] <rhelic> so by zooming everything, there's no breakage
[08:32] <ender-> how do you zoom everything in firefox?
[08:32] <rhelic> FF2 doesn't have zoom
[08:32] <mega`> rhelic: i know its an improvement, but for me, most of the time only text enl
[08:33] <rhelic> sux2bu :)
[08:33] <mega`> ff3 will have page zoom
[08:33] <rhelic> I've been using the FF3 beta, but I haven't looked for it, don't really care
[08:33] <mega`> not really rhelic because i use firefox and it has text-only enlargement
[08:33] <ender-> i dunno what version of IE i have, but View>Text Size doesnt work for you
[08:34] <ender-> oh shortcut
[08:34] <mega`> yes, shortcut... :)
[08:35] <ender-> umm Alt+v, Down,Down,Down,Down,Down, Right, Up (or down), Enter
[08:35] <ender-> :)
[08:35] <ender-> like a mortal kombat move
[08:35] <phisher1> hah
[08:35] <mega`> alt+vxg =)
[08:35] <phisher1> up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,start ftw
[08:36] <ender-> there ya go
[08:36] <rhelic> oh, IE7 does still have the old IE6 text resize
[08:36] <rhelic> although, like IE6, it only works on some text
[08:37] <n00b846> hi
[08:37] <n00b846> where can i find a free bouncer?
[08:37] * n00b846 is now known as Oneday
[08:37] <Lindy_> try google
[08:37] <Oneday> i mean only for this server
[08:37] <phisher1> don't try google
[08:37] <XB23> guys ive got a weird weird problem here, my dns server returns the correct ip
[08:37] <phisher1> XB23: multiple A records
[08:37] <rhelic> google is the devil, try live.com and drink your koolaide
[08:38] <XB23> nah phisher1 theres only one
[08:38] <phisher1> what domain ?
[08:38] <Lindy_> oh ok
[08:38] <XB23> box.xb23.net
[08:39] <phisher1> did the record change recently ?
[08:39] <XB23> nope shouldnt have
[08:39] <XB23> * Dns resolving box.xb23.net * Dns resolved box.xb23.net to 67.159.0.4
[08:39] <XB23> thats what i get
[08:39] <XB23> have no idea where the 0.4 comes from
[08:40] <blase> ipconfig /flushdns and try again?
[08:40] <XB23> yeh i have
[08:40] <XB23> dosent change
[08:40] <phisher1> you're using your isp's nameservers on the machine you are running your ir
[08:40] <Oneday> how can i connect to this server by irc
[08:40] <XB23> yes phisher1 virgin media
[08:40] <phisher1> Oneday: you are connected to a server by irc.
[08:41] <Oneday> no
[08:41] <Oneday> by a cgi :;p
[08:41] <blase> what is your current dns server's ip?
[08:41] <phisher1> was what I was getting at..
[08:41] <XB23> how do i check that blase
[08:41] <phisher1> ipconfig /all
[08:41] <phisher1> oh sorry
[08:41] <blase> ipconfig /all
[08:41] <XB23> ill check
[08:41] <phisher1> blase, go right ahead
[08:42] <phisher1> i've got some work to do anyway
[08:42] <phisher1> all yours
[08:42] * blase shrugs
[08:42] <blase> i need to go to bed soon anyway
[08:42] <XB23> 192.168.2.1 194.168.4.100 194.168.8.100
[08:42] <blase> hmm
[08:43] <XB23> its funny cause i have problems resolving other dns's occasionally to
[08:43] <phisher1> welp, that was quick
[08:44] <blase> do you just want a solution, or do you want to figure out what's wrong?
[08:44] <phisher1> well at least they aren't lame enough to have unrestricted recursive dns s
[08:45] <phisher1> 67.159.26.5 is the IP address the entire internet will soon see if not alr
[08:45] <phisher1> maybe you have a hosts entry ?
[08:45] <blase> hosts entry shouldn't get returned by a /dns
[08:45] <XB23> hmm
[08:46] <blase> so, do you just want a solution, or do you want to figure out what's wrong?
[08:47] <XB23> well a solution
[08:47] <XB23> lol
[08:48] <XB23> be nice to know whats wrong as well though
[08:48] <blase> probably your isp's dns servers are screwed up
[08:48] <DareDavil> what ircd doe efnet uses
[08:48] <phisher1> DareDavil: ratbox and hybrid
[08:48] <phisher1> it it matters to you
[08:48] <phisher1> I'd like you would know how to find that out.
[08:49] <phisher1> i'd think you would know*
[08:49] <blase> XB23: i'd suggest using opendns's dns servers. you can read instructions on
[08:49] <XB23> k
[08:49] <phisher1> we just started using those at work
[08:50] <blase> yeah, good stuff for users... is it really so useful for companies though?
[08:50] <DareDavil> phisher1 whats the most secure and flexible ircd?
[08:50] <rhelic> ok I'm installing SP1 on my Vista laptop, *crosses fingers*
[08:50] <blase> secure and flexible usually don't mix. but oh well...
[08:51] <rhelic> haha, yes, very true
[08:51] <rhelic> features cause security holes
[08:51] <phisher1> DareDavil: secure meaning most tested and attempted to break ?
[08:51] <phisher1> probably hybrid
[08:51] <phisher1> flexible meaning.. ehh.. well I don't know what that would mean for an irc
[08:52] <phisher1> able to bend ?
[08:52] <phisher1> unrealircd is the easiest ircd
[08:52] <blase> rofl
[08:52] <rhelic> what, did you just get FiOS and want to run your own irc network?
[08:52] <dingalin> what are the speeds on fios now?
[08:52] <DareDavil> phisher1 yes
[08:53] <phisher1> 40 gigabit down/1.2Mbit up
[08:53] <blase> 40gbps down?!?
[08:53] <DareDavil> phisher1 able to bend for ease . change commands. veriety. etc.. contrl.
[08:53] <phisher1> no
[08:53] <phisher1> not really =)
[08:53] <phisher1> DareDavil: do you have a clue what you're talking about?
[08:53] <dingalin> those speeds are horrible
[08:53] <dingalin> you can tell they want to compete with optimum
[08:53] <phisher1> not trying to be rude..just seems to me you probably don't
[08:54] <dingalin> optimum is 30Mbit down 3Mbit up
[08:54] <phisher1> http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/packages+and+prices/packages
[08:54] <dingalin> wow
[08:54] <dingalin> verizon is highway robbery
[08:54] <rhelic> damn... 1TB SATA HD for $240 @ Fry's
[08:54] <dingalin> 43 dollars offering dsl like speeds
[08:55] <phisher1> thats the package you're not supposed to get
[08:55] <phisher1> 65/m for 15/15
[08:55] <blase> hmm. maybe xb23 applied dns changes to his router config
[08:55] <phisher1> 15mbit up
[08:55] <phisher1> nifty
[08:55] <dingalin> I don't get it
[08:55] <DareDavil> phisher1 like if i want every one to give a code or letter before connect
[08:55] <XB[afk]> right thats updated the routers
[08:55] <blase> XB[afk]: works now?
[08:55] <dingalin> why would they offer those plans if they were trying to compete with optim
[08:55] <XB[afk]> lets see if this works
[08:55] <dingalin> Neither of their plans go above 30Mbit
[08:55] <dingalin> err
[08:55] <dingalin> 15Mbit
[08:55] <phisher1> DareDavil: unrealircd with ssl enabled and an Iline or ehh connection clas
[08:55] <DareDavil> phisher1 or i want to make all commands like i want them. all chanserv or
[08:56] <phisher1> yes but
[08:56] <phisher1> configuration of such commands isn't always simple
[08:56] <phisher1> you don't get checkboxes that say 'turn on cool features here'
[08:56] <rhelic> dingalin: no, those prices are very good
[08:56] <XB[afk]> still doing it
[08:56] <XB[afk]> nslookup has gone strange
[08:56] <phisher1> oO
[08:57] <XB[afk]> its returning box.xb23.net.Local and the ip as the dns server ip
[08:57] <XB[afk]> (the opendns one)
[08:57] <XB[afk]> when i lookup box.xb23.net using nslookup
[08:57] <phisher1> it's returning a hostname ?
[08:57] <blase> DareDavil: you sound like you'd want one of those commercial ircds with gui/w
[08:58] <blase> eh, that's not right
[08:58] <XB[afk]> yeh hold on
[08:58] <blase> the opendns servers are definitely returning the right ip; i've checked
[08:58] <blase> at least, they are in the data centre closest to me.
[08:59] <DareDavil> phisher1 , blase - i just want to use an ircd provider. pay. setup a secu
[08:59] <XB[afk]> nslookup box.xb23.net
[08:59] <XB[afk]> *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.2.1: Non-existent domain
[08:59] <XB[afk]> Server: resolver1.opendns.com
[08:59] <XB[afk]> Address: 208.67.222.222
[08:59] <XB[afk]> Non-authoritative answer:
[08:59] <XB[afk]> Name: box.xb23.net.PrinceNET
[08:59] <XB[afk]> Address: 208.69.32.130
[08:59] <phisher1> not wise to paste in here
[09:00] <DareDavil> is hybrid free?
[09:00] <XB[afk]> ah sorry
[09:00] <phisher1> DareDavil: do you have any experience using linux or unix ?
[09:00] <XB[afk]> DareDavil: if u want a simple ircd, use unreal its made for new users
[09:00] <XB[afk]> and it runs on windows
[09:00] <DareDavil> yes
[09:00] <phisher1> ah thats right..there is a windows version
[09:01] <DareDavil> i use linux
[09:01] <rhelic> I want an ircd that I can admin via my Xbox360 controller!
[09:01] <XB[afk]> phisher1: the above is the output from nslookup
[09:01] <DareDavil> i need linux one
[09:01] <DareDavil> and most secure
[09:01] <phisher1> unrealircd seems easy to make custom commands
[09:01] <phisher1> looking at their examples now
[09:02] <XB[afk]> DareDavil: unreal is nice as long as you dont have a massive userload you'l
[09:02] <DareDavil> if hybrid is one. ill go for it\
[09:02] <XB[afk]> anything over 10k unreal falls over on its feet
[09:02] <phisher1> XB[afk]: that's just showing you their nameservers
[09:02] <phisher1> oh wait
[09:02] <phisher1> uhh
[09:02] <phisher1> hell I don't know man
[09:02] <XB[afk]> could it be this pc is infected with something?
[09:02] <phisher1> I don't use their service.. they might have some proxying type thing
[09:02] <rhelic> are we talking about XP or a realy Windows Server ?
[09:02] <XB[afk]> spyware or somet
[09:02] <phisher1> nslookup
[09:02] <phisher1> enter
[09:02] <phisher1> server 4.2.2.2
[09:02] <rhelic> let's not forget XP capping connections after you hit 7 or whatever
[09:02] <dingalin> guys admit it
[09:03] <phisher1> box.xb32.net
[09:03] <phisher1> enter
[09:03] <phisher1> what ip
[09:03] <dingalin> just admit that FIOS is a ripoff
[09:03] <phisher1> dingalin: its a ripoff
[09:03] <phisher1> done ?
[09:03] <dingalin> =)
[09:03] <DareDavil> can i make custom commands in hybrid?
[09:03] <XB[afk]> yeh phisher1
[09:03] <XB[afk]> that resolved it fine
[09:03] <rhelic> dingalin: you get superior latency and true speed, compared to some cable pl
[09:03] <phisher1> so use that nameserver
[09:03] <XB[afk]> k
[09:04] <blase> that 208.69.32.130 is really strange...
[09:04] <DareDavil> is it free?
[09:04] <rhelic> dingalin: I will admin that my cable is 10/1 for $45/month
[09:04] <XB[afk]> DareDavil: u can make custom commands in any open source ircd
[09:04] <rhelic> dingalin: but I'd trade that for 5/2 if I could
[09:04] <XB[afk]> but unreal supports it better
[09:04] <XB[afk]> you have to know C or Cpp though
[09:04] <phisher1> incorrect
[09:04] <dingalin> rhelik what company
[09:04] <phisher1> you can make aliases to do just about anything in unreal
[09:05] <phisher1> unrealircd is free
[09:05] <rhelic> dingalin: Road Runner in Central New York
[09:05] <XB[afk]> oh yeh ya can do aliases
[09:05] <phisher1> go to their website
[09:05] <phisher1> download, read the docs
[09:05] <XB[afk]> my bad
[09:05] <rhelic> dingalin: if you're a PC gamer, you'd prefer FiOS, no lag
[09:05] <dingalin> Rhelik I would not trade my 55$ month optimum 30/5 for the 15/15
[09:05] <rhelic> heck, an Xbox 360 gamer, which I am
[09:05] <phisher1> 30/5 ugh
[09:05] <rhelic> dingalin: 30/5? show me a speed test
[09:05] <dingalin> ok one second
[09:05] <phisher1> I wish comcast would follow suite
[09:05] <XB[afk]> hey phisher1 that 4.2.2.2 i there second dns server
[09:05] <XB[afk]> is*
[09:05] <blase> oh, opendns returns their own webserver 208.69.32.130 when a hostname can't b
[09:05] <phisher1> XB[afk]: 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3
[09:06] <dingalin> not familiar with optimum online?
[09:06] <XB[afk]> yeh blase thats what i dont get
[09:06] <XB[afk]> cause i was looking up box.xb23.net the princenet came outta nowhere
[09:06] <blase> XB[afk]: your local lan is called princenet?
[09:06] <XB[afk]> thats the name of my wireless network though
[09:06] <rhelic> dingalin: here's the one I use http://web100.rit.edu:7123/
[09:06] <XB[afk]> yeh blase
[09:07] <blase> windows probably appends its name if the first one can't be found
[09:07] <DareDavil> is hybrid free?
[09:07] <XB[afk]> DareDavil: yes its opensource
[09:07] <blase> try this for me. nslookup <enter> server 208.67.222.222 <enter>
[09:07] <XB[afk]> let me try
[09:07] <blase> note the period after box.xb23.net
[09:08] <XB[afk]> yeh that worked blase
[09:08] <XB[afk]> the .
[09:08] <blase> and try without the . again? just box.xb23.net ?
[09:08] <dingalin> running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 13.94Mb/s u
[09:08] <XB[afk]> now its .princenet
[09:08] <XB[afk]> wtf is that all about lol
[09:09] <DareDavil> helo
[09:09] <ASk> .princenet - sounds like a dns prefix
[09:09] <ASk> make sure that your network settings don't define one
[09:09] <rhelic> hmm, looks like I've been upgraded and didn't know it, my 10/1 gave me 18.9
[09:09] <XB[afk]> its a lan network name ASk
[09:09] * blase shrugs. it ain't supposed to append a dns suffix unless the query couldn't be found
[09:10] <XB[afk]> when i do /dns box.xb23.net in mIRC it resolves great though
[09:10] <XB[afk]> without the .
[09:10] <DareDavil> XB[afk] is hybrid open source and free?
[09:10] <blase> that's 'cos you've changed your nameservers to 4.2.2.1?
[09:10] <blase> DareDavil: yep.
[09:10] <XB[afk]> yeh blase
[09:10] <dingalin> rhelic check the results: http://www.speedtest.net/result/232035992.png
[09:11] <dingalin> that site you gave me wasn't topping my speeds
[09:11] <blase> XB[afk]: anyway, as long as it now works for you.
[09:11] <XB[afk]> yes DareDavil: why not google 'open source ircd'
[09:11] <XB[afk]> yeh blc
[09:11] <XB[afk]> blase even
[09:11] <XB[afk]> lol
[09:11] <XB[afk]> hopefully this nameserver is a stable one
[09:11] <phisher1> DareDavil: do some of your own research please
[09:11] <DareDavil> phisher1?
[09:11] <rhelic> dingalin: nice
[09:11] <blc> heh.. first time someone typed that error
[09:11] <blc> usually they go the other way
[09:11] <XB[afk]> mind you, cant be any more unstable than virgin medias nameservers
[09:11] <blase> ;)
[09:12] <XB[afk]> lol blc :p
[09:12] <dingalin> see why I wouldn't trade it rhelic?
[09:12] <whaaz89> trying to get into the bios of an old compaq presario 5360... i read on a s
[09:12] <rhelic> dingalin: honestly, I never knew anybody had a plan that good in the US, the
[09:12] <blase> i think that's cos un doesn't like me anymore
[09:12] <rhelic> dingalin: but that's relative to your plan, the rest of the US, it's a good
[09:12] <dingalin> rhelic where do you live?
[09:12] <rhelic> Ithaca, NY
[09:12] <blase> anyway, sleepy time now
[09:12] <dingalin> you might be able to get optimum up there
[09:12] <rhelic> bing: let me try that test now
[09:13] <XB[afk]> brb
[09:13] <dingalin> optimum is mostly in the tristate area
[09:13] <dingalin> that's why fios first came to the tristate area
[09:13] <dingalin> they wanted to compete but it's obvious they couldn't
[09:14] <DareDavil> phisher1 XB[afk] ok. but it was just a game of yes or no. thanks btw :)
[09:14] <rhelic> dingalin: http://www.speedtest.net/result/232037268.png
[09:15] <dingalin> damn
[09:15] <dingalin> road runner never had a good rep
[09:15] <rhelic> let me try another server
[09:15] <rhelic> I'm going to use the one you did
[09:15] <XB23> got another problem , i cant resolve internal names now etc server james-la
[09:16] <dingalin> wins server correct xb?
[09:16] <XB23> how ya mean?
[09:16] <phisher1> XB23: how could you ever?
[09:16] <phisher1> if you were using your isp's nameservers, they knew nothing about your int
[09:16] <dingalin> you need a wins server to be able to resolve host names
[09:16] <XB23> ohh there we go its fine, my mistake wifi hadnt initialzed properly
[09:16] <phisher1> uhh no you don't
[09:17] <rhelic> dingalin: hmm, so this is claiming I only have ~4mbit down?
[09:17] <phisher1> netbios broadcast will allow you to resolve windows machine names
[09:17] <dingalin> yes rhelic
[09:17] <rhelic> well I'm getting 2.37 Mb/s on another server
[09:18] <dingalin> half of what you initially got
[09:19] <dingalin> what if netbios is disabled?
[09:19] <dingalin> you need wins don't you
[09:19] <rhelic> doesn't 2.37Mb = 18.96mbit?
[09:19] <dingalin> but you said you only have 10Mbit/s
[09:20] <rhelic> last I knew
[09:20] <dingalin> did you use speedtest or another site
[09:20] <rhelic> http://web100.rit.edu:7123/ gives me the best results, plus it's very close
[09:20] <rhelic> the test is a Java app
[09:21] <dingalin> running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 13.59Mb/s we
[09:21] <dingalin> wouldn't that mean that it's well over 100Mbit/s
[09:22] <steve_at_> Hey guys. I need to remove a screw from the dash of my BMW. Like this htt
[09:24] <deww> steve_at_: it's a "short" ratchet as per the caption
[09:25] <steve_at_> is it a special kind though? I never seen one like this
[09:27] <rhelic> dingalin: hmm ok, I have no idea wtf that means then
[09:28] <Cointreau> where are the greek servers?
[09:28] <Cointreau> i lost them
[09:28] <rhelic> dingalin: well if we assume you double the value to get your mbit, then your
[09:28] <rhelic> dingalin: but of course, now I'm just throwing around numbers
[09:29] <jackal^> Cointreau, there are no greek servers on efnet
[09:30] <dingalin> yeah true
[09:35] <DareDavil> is unreal ircd secure and stable as hybrid?
[09:38] <antichat> ive just bought a new motherboard do i have to reset the cmos
[09:38] <phisher1> why would you have to reset something to default that is already set to de
[09:40] <phisher1> exit
[09:40] <phisher1> er
[09:43] <rhelic> AntHr4XOs: no
[09:43] <rhelic> antichat: no
[09:44] <antichat> it says cmos checksum error
[09:44] <antichat> when i boot up ive just bought a new setup completly and im putting it tog
[09:47] * HornyCam is looking for girl to hot chat
[09:48] <jackal^> wrong place
[09:48] <rhelic> hi horny, welcome to BYE
[09:55] <Saww> is there any word/phrase that the meaning of that word/phrase is a "never retu
[09:57] <deww> wha?
[09:59] <deww> steve_at_: print a pic out and bring it to sears, lowes, home depot, autozone
[09:59] <deww> someone's gotta have it!
[09:59] <deww> or check amazon.com
[09:59] <steve_at_> ok
[09:59] <Saww> deww
[09:59] <deww> steve_at_: i bought some interesting stuff from northerntools.com via amazon
[10:00] <Saww> i'm looking for a way to say "a place you can never return from"
[10:00] <deww> they probably carry all sorts of good stuff
[10:00] <Saww> probably more of a poetic way of saying it
[10:00] <deww> Saww: oh. point of no return usually
[10:00] <Saww> m.. anything a bit more poetic?
[10:00] <steve_at_> nice
[10:00] <deww> past the threshold
[10:02] <kingpimp> how much does getting a door repainted cost on a car, some ass keyed my tr
[10:03] * HornyCam is now known as ManWithCa
[10:03] * ManWithCa is now known as ManW\Cam
[10:03] <SoAA> at Mako, like $300
[10:04] <f50> Hello, I have no experience in programming, how difficult is it to write a simp
[10:04] <kingpimp> they gonna do a shit job?
[10:04] <SoAA> probably hehe
[10:05] <SoAA> it's not cheap to get your car repainted
[10:05] <Saww> f50 - learning one will be the cheapest way. hiring someone to do it will be t
[10:05] <rhelic> f50: well if you use C#.NET you could put together something fairly simply
[10:05] <kingpimp> fuck
[10:05] <kingpimp> scuse my language
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[10:06] <f50> c#.net by microsoft?
[10:06] <Saww> rhelic - i don't know if you're a programmer, but as one, i really don't want
[10:06] <Saww> anyway i g2g, but my point is, you ask for help, not for learning. at least th
[10:06] <rhelic> f50: I recommend you buy this, it's cheap and the easiest way for a beginner
[10:07] <f50> rhelic, thanks
[10:07] <rhelic> Saww: and btw yes, I'm a careec developer
[10:07] <rhelic> currently I work for myself doing private dev
[10:08] <rhelic> f50: it's dirt cheap, and has a CD with everything you need, the programming
[10:08] <K_Dallas> Good day folks! How can I stop FireFox from poping up each time it downloa
[10:09] <rhelic> and the book focuses on real world starts, not a bunch of 35yr old theory th
[10:09] <f50> thank you, sorry for this silly question, is visual c built into window os?
[10:10] <SoAA> K_Dallas: you mean the download manager?
[10:10] <K_Dallas> indeed
[10:11] <SoAA> um I dunno if there's an option to turn off download manager, but it's kinda i
[10:11] <SoAA> you tried looking in the options
[10:11] <SoAA> ?
[10:11] <K_Dallas> lol in know i mean just not to have a new window opened each time it downl
[10:11] <KosheeN> you can disable it K_Dallas
[10:11] <K_Dallas> Hello KosheeN ;)
[10:11] <KosheeN> hey bud
[10:12] <K_Dallas> how have you been?
[10:12] <deww> Saww: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Rubicon#Synonyms
[10:12] <KosheeN> i have a folder on my desktop named Firefox downlaod and i have eveyrthing
[10:12] <KosheeN> very well .. and you ?
[10:12] * K_Dallas salutes deww and the rest of the ops
[10:12] <deww> Saww: i often us, but forgot the phrase now, burning bridges
[10:12] <deww> hi
[10:12] <K_Dallas> i am well too thanks
[10:13] <khruschev> i don't get this.. the guys that produce winantispyware, antispykit, etc.
[10:13] <SoAA> under what pretense? making crappy products?
[10:14] <SoAA> I don't think that's a crime =)
[10:14] <K_Dallas> lol it should be ;)
[10:14] <phisher1> uhh
[10:14] <KosheeN> K_Dallas Tools - Options - Main Tab "download" section un tick "show t
[10:14] <K_Dallas> thanks KosheeN gonna try it
[10:14] <phisher1> nooone is forcing anyone to buy their products
[10:14] <pixil> khruschev: Sued them for what?
[10:14] <SoAA> as long as it's not false advertisement
[10:15] <SoAA> besides, all those little anti progs are coded by indian sweatshop kids making
[10:15] <SoAA> you can't blame them for being crappy :P
[10:15] <SoAA> poor kids have little hands, not cut out for programming hehe
[10:16] <K_Dallas> KosheeN, i guess i have to install minitab first as i dont see that in my
[10:16] <K_Dallas> oops my bad
[10:16] <KosheeN> its the first tab
[10:16] <K_Dallas> i dont have download anyways but sorry for minitab ;)
[10:17] * pixil tries to figure out what minitab has to do with it
[10:17] <pixil> ah
[10:17] <pixil> heh
[10:17] <Oblivion> anyone here good at speakers and crossovers?
[10:17] * K_Dallas is sleep deprived, sorry KosheeN got it now
[10:17] <KosheeN> kool
[10:17] <pixil> Oblivion: Just ask your question.
[10:17] <antichat> ive just bought a new motherboard but its only got one ide slot
[10:17] <antichat> do i have to run my harddrive and my dvddrive from the same cable
[10:18] <K_Dallas> antichat, that wouldnt hurt much
[10:18] <Oblivion> anyone opened up any KLH speakers to know what type of crossovers they use
[10:18] <K_Dallas> only if you had SATA
[10:19] <antichat> nope both ide
[10:20] <K_Dallas> ok, then both HDD and DVD on the same IDE cable
[10:21] <antichat> hd as master and dvd as slave ?
[10:21] <K_Dallas> yes
[10:21] <K_Dallas> (not sure if it makes any difference but that looks better anyways)
[10:21] <evol> how do you find out what hosts are +e in a channel?
[10:22] <phisher1> you have to be opd in that channel
[10:22] <phisher1> if so, /mode #channel e
[10:22] <evol> thank you
[10:22] <phisher1> yup
[10:23] * DareDavil asks last question - where do you think InspIRCd stands. is it as close to secu
[10:24] <colG> does anybody here have the complete LEGAL version of Microsoft Word 2007?
[10:25] <XB23> dont swear
[10:25] <phisher1> ?
[10:26] <K_Dallas> colG, what do you want to know?
[10:26] <XB23> MS and Pay in same sentance heh
[10:26] <colG> I need a template for a letter
[10:27] <K_Dallas> well, i wonder why anyone bothers with MS template in the first place
[10:27] <colG> I'm trying to type up a letter to this guy who wrote us a check from a closed
[10:27] <K_Dallas> colG, google for specific phrases and you might find more results
[10:28] <colG> I googled "template for sending a letter word 2007"
[10:28] <colG> and I dun like the results
[10:28] <j4syn_> "word 2007 templates"
[10:29] <K_Dallas> i meant for the content of your letter not word templates ;)
[10:29] <colG> my downloader is broken j4syn could you download one and send it to me?
[10:29] * f50 is now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (log\on pager\on)
[10:29] <colG> K_Dallas: I know what to include in my letter, I just want to make sure it's a
[10:29] <colG> so the guy gets more scared and just pays us
[10:30] <colG> or so the judge will like my letter more and give him life in prison for writi
[10:30] * K_Dallas is afraid people have learnt too much from 'Catch me if you can' :)
[10:30] <colG> well, this guy's gonna learn alright
[10:31] <colG> just need that darn template...
[10:32] <K_Dallas> i dont have it probably as my office suite has come with the computer and
[10:32] * ManW\Cam is now known as Cam4U
[10:34] <pixil> Why is this returning 12 and not 20 => http://www.nopaste.com/p/ajcyafH07
[10:36] <DareDavil> the comparison shows irc inspircd has all the options and supports. i don
[10:36] <pixil> DareDavil: Huh?
[10:37] <phisher1> pixil: repeats ?
[10:37] <phisher1> 12 unique array elements
[10:38] <pixil> Shouldn't be any repeats though
[10:38] <phisher1> hmm no
[10:38] <phisher1> n/m
[10:38] <pixil> I guess I better double check
[10:38] <DareDavil> pixil need to choose an ircd
[10:38] <phisher1> wow
[10:38] <phisher1> still on that
[10:38] <phisher1> DareDavil: try one of them
[10:38] <phisher1> see if it can do what you need
[10:38] <pixil> DareDavil: hybrid is mature. ratbox is nice, but not quite as mature.
[10:38] <phisher1> if not, try another.
[10:38] <pixil> unrealircd is good and solid, too.
[10:39] <deww> ratbox is based on hybrid :P
[10:39] <pixil> yes, but is full of lots of new code
[10:39] <deww> both have responsive devs
[10:39] <phisher1> pixil: do ${#hosts[@]}
[10:40] <pixil> phisher1: echo ${hosts[@]} | wc returns 20
[10:40] <pixil> phisher1: That just prints them all, though.
[10:40] <pixil> I guess I could just pipe that to wc. :-/
[10:40] <pixil> I hate being a hackjob
[10:40] <phisher1> what are you trying to achieve ?
[10:41] <DareDavil> pixil what do you think about inspircd ?
[10:41] <phisher1> echo ${hosts[@]} | wc should return 1
[10:41] <pixil> I'm trying to count all elements in the array
[10:41] <pixil> phisher1: Only if I count only lines.
[10:41] <pixil> wc without any options counts lines words and letters I believe
[10:42] <pixil> echo ${#host[*]} did the trick
[10:42] <pixil> :o
[10:42] <phisher1> http://efnethelp.org/paste/219
[10:42] <f50> rhelic, Just downloading a trial from MS, have you got any experience which vis
[10:43] <pixil> yeap
[10:43] <pixil> very bizarre
[10:43] <phisher1> it works fine
[10:43] <pixil> The man page claims ${#array} should be all that's needed.
[10:44] <pixil> Oh well, 6 and 1/2 dozen of the other
[10:44] <pixil> thanks
[10:44] <DareDavil> pixil what do you think about inspircd ?
[10:44] <phisher1> heh
[10:44] <pixil> DareDavil: I don't have an opinion of an ircd that I haven't tried.
[10:44] <pixil> hybrid and ratbox are both solid. So is unrealircd.
[10:44] <DareDavil> phisher1 saying to me?
[10:44] <DareDavil> pixil ?
[10:45] <phisher1> ${#array_name} is the length (number of characters) of ${array_name[0]}
[10:45] <pixil> phisher1: oooooh!
[10:45] <phisher1> 172.16.100.1 = 12 chars
[10:45] <pixil> Well that makes sense
[10:45] <deww> hrm
[10:45] <deww> yeah
[10:45] <deww> i just tried quoting them as well
[10:45] <phisher1> DareDavil: i'd avoid talking to me =\
[10:45] <phisher1> you're getting on my nerves..
[10:45] <phisher1> continue about your business though
[10:46] <pixil> nice find, phisher1, that was driving me crazy
[10:46] <phisher1> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/arrays.html
[10:46] <DareDavil> thx
[10:53] <f50> Hey ops, how do I find out the latest updated list of mIRC servers/
[10:53] <phisher1> mirc doesn't have servers
[10:53] <phisher1> mirc is an IRC client
[10:53] <phisher1> if you're looking for EFnet Server
[10:53] <RBL> f50: EFNet Server List: http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers -phisher1 (10)
[10:53] * f50 is away, auto-away after 20 minutes (24m 22s ago)
[10:54] <phisher1> f50: auto away announcments are extremely lame and frowned upon almost eve
[10:54] <f50> excuse my ignorance, just looking for differnt servers to connect to
[10:54] <phisher1> http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers
[10:57] <deww> f50: mirc.com also has a list that gets updates if i recall properly
[10:57] <phisher1> i'm just in a shitty mood today
[10:58] <phisher1> this week
[10:58] <phisher1> this month
[10:58] <phisher1> this year
[11:00] <f50> phisher1, be happy
[11:05] * Disconnected
[11:05] * Attempting to rejoin channel #Help
[11:05] * Rejoined channel #Help
[11:05] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
[11:05] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Fri Feb 08 03:52:34
[11:23] <manning_> anybody wanna criticize my page design? i'm looking for some input before
[11:28] <KosheeN> I need help identify'n a song .. does anyone know a good channel for this i
[11:31] <manning_> my cellphone does it :)
[11:31] <manning_> google for a sentense in the lyrics, i'm sure you'll find it
[11:31] <KosheeN> There are no lyrics
[11:32] <manning_> haha ok... how are you going to explain it then?
[11:32] <KosheeN> its on a Gm or Chevy Commercial right now.. and Body builders use this song
[11:32] <KosheeN> dunno
[11:32] <KosheeN> its like a song from the days of chariots
[11:32] <phisher1> chariots of fire?
[11:32] <phenolic> i had a drive go bad, wats a good program to recover data ((thats not get
[11:32] <phisher1> =\
[11:32] <KosheeN> real dramatic with those gong style drums
[11:32] <KosheeN> no.
[11:33] <KosheeN> i got an idea if i bet if i see those bodby building comps on youtube one
[11:33] <KosheeN> crap.. that still donest help much though
[11:33] <phenolic> .
[11:33] <Welly> guys i have an annoying problem, I have XP installed on 2 drives in RAID, i w
[11:33] <Welly> i dont get the option for Vista
[11:34] <phenolic> throw away your vista
[11:34] <phenolic> format it
[11:34] <phenolic> and burn the box
[11:34] <phenolic> problem solved ;)
[11:35] <Welly> anyone else?
[11:35] <KosheeN> goes... Dunt dunt dunt dun dun dunt dunt dunt dun dun
[11:35] <KosheeN> dunt dunt dunt dunt daaaaa
[11:35] <KosheeN> ill stop i can see this is going no wher
[11:45] <MrMeth> what is the diference between 12volt adaptors AC and DC?
[11:45] <MrMeth> would it hurt to hook up a AC adaptor to a device that came with DC?
[11:46] <steve_at_> Anyone know what the main languages in belgium are?
[11:46] <jackal^> Welly, right click on my computer, select properties
[11:46] <Welly> jackal^ why?
[11:46] <jackal^> Welly, then go to advanced tab, under startup and recovery
[11:47] <Welly> in XP ?
[11:47] <jackal^> yes
[11:47] <Welly> ok
[11:48] <benchpres> for a cat5 eithernet cable what the sequence of colors for a straight thr
[11:48] <jackal^> in settings, is time to display operating systmes enabled?
[11:48] <Welly> yeh
[11:48] <Welly> thats not the problem
[11:49] <Welly> when vista restarts during the install
[11:49] <Welly> it boots xp
[11:49] <Welly> i guess it doesnt see the raid during install
[11:49] <steve_at_> Anyone here speka french and can help with a few words?
[11:52] <MrMeth> in general wireing, is the Negative the wire with the strip? (2 wires)
[11:55] <deww> benchpres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable as long as both ends
[11:57] <iNToIT> MrMeth, warning.. danger will robinson.. *never* rely on color coding of wir
[12:03] <Light_I> how do u check what is slowing down a pc when logging in ?
[12:03] <Light_I> i know threre's a way to mointor which service it maybe hanging on?
[12:04] <jackal^> msconfig
[12:04] <Light_I> no that's for startup programs
[12:04] <Light_I> there's a way to monito which service is starting
[12:04] <robke^> kaip identifikuoti nicka?
[12:04] <phisher1> robke^: http://irchelp.org/noserv
[12:04] <jackal^> robke^, no
[12:04] <robke^> kas?
[12:05] <jackal^> visit the page phisher1 posted
[12:05] <phisher1> rocka docka ding dong?
[12:05] <jackal^> haha
[12:06] <jackal^> Light_I, there you can see which services will startup
[12:06] <Light_I> no
[12:06] <Light_I> i know which ones are starting up
[12:07] <Light_I> i wanna monitor it
[12:07] <phisher1> he wants to monitor while they are starting
[12:07] <jackal^> got it
[12:07] <jackal^> but dont see the point :)
[12:08] <Light_I> well if login is hanging on a service
[12:08] <Light_I> how would you know which service it is out of 150 services?
[12:08] <Light_I> get it?
[12:08] <Light_I> so if u could monitor them starting, thenu can see what's taking long to st
[12:08] <jackal^> in msconfig hide MS's and see
[12:14] <fartman> if i havin pain in chest should i consult doctor?
[12:15] <manning_> i'd go smoke another cigarette
[12:16] <jackal^> topic
[12:16] <BLAZEBALL> anybody help with contacting revott
[12:17] <deww> Light_I: no hints in event viewer?
[12:17] <BLAZEBALL> hello
[12:17] <deww> hi
[12:18] <deww> BLAZEBALL: what is "revott" ?
[12:20] <ial> revott looks like a dvd ripping group
[12:22] <ial> nm, its a private torrent site
[12:23] <BLAZEBALL> yes ial could you help
[12:23] <ial> no
[12:23] <BLAZEBALL> nevermind
[12:24] <deww> BLAZEBALL: this channel isn't the right place to ask about some torrent site o
[12:25] <deww> tell all your friends they've been directing people to the wrong place!
[12:30] <amit555> hi all
[12:30] <rascal999> using +-/* only, how would I inverse?
[12:31] <amit555> problem copying files with 256 characters ... is there any app that can ove
[12:31] <amit555> this problem *
[12:38] <deww> amit555: windows limitation
[12:39] <lenis> help
[12:39] <amit555> anyway to kill this limit ?
[12:39] <Nightwork> lenis, read the topic and just ask.
[12:39] <Nightwork> amit555, no.
[12:39] <amit555> or there's a need for a 3rd party app
[12:39] <Nightwork> amit555, it's a limitation of NTFS.
[12:39] <deww> amit555: short of renaming your stuff, no
[12:40] <ial> robocopy wont work?
[12:40] <amit555> backing up some computers from work and i get problems with limit thing
[12:40] <lenis> i have a sony camera and i transferd a video to my pc.. .mpg and my pc cant p
[12:40] <Nightwork> Let's just make sure, are you talking about files with 256 character file
[12:40] <amit555> yeah
[12:40] <Nightwork> What kind of OS/FS are you copying from?
[12:40] <amit555> xp
[12:41] <amit555> ntfs XP
[12:41] <amit555> :)
[12:41] <Nightwork> What error are you getting?
[12:41] <lenis> my media player play it as song ...
[12:41] <lenis> w/o picutre
[12:41] <fartman> just rename all files
[12:41] <Nightwork> lenis, probably missing the codec needed.
[12:42] <lenis> what codec i need:)
[12:42] <fartman> or just zip them, copy the zip to the new location and unzip
[12:42] <Nightwork> lenis, your camera's manual should say how it encodes video.
[12:42] <fartman> it might work
[12:42] <Nightwork> lenis, or perhaps there is software that came with it?
[12:42] <lenis> no.. i dont have anything
[12:43] <lenis> maybe go to www.sony.com ?:P
[12:43] <Nightwork> amit555, what error are you getting, and is this a local file copy?
[12:44] <Nightwork> lenis, perhaps so.
[12:48] <amit555> file name too long or something like that
[12:49] <amit555> though robocopy solved it :0
[12:49] <amit555> :)
[12:49] <Nightwork> Ok.
[12:49] <Nightwork> What generated the files, anyway?
[12:49] <amit555> stupid users ......
[12:49] <Nightwork> Heh.
[12:49] <amit555> compeny computer.....
[12:49] <amit555> also same problem with folders....
[12:50] <amit555> anyway thanks for the great help!
[12:50] <amit555> good night!
[12:53] <KosheeN> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RABlMnmfCJ4 <- can anyone tell me what t
[12:55] <n909> carmina burana
[12:55] <eriksclbo> hello help pls i want to reset my windows xp passwd i cannont access i fo
[12:58] <AntHr4XOs> Do you still have your administrative account?
[12:58] <AntHr4XOs> administrator/administrator
[12:58] <AntHr4XOs> ?
[12:58] <bit_logic> :/
[12:59] <bit_logic> the password is adminstrator?
[12:59] <AntHr4XOs> You can prob just google, find a password crack CD
[13:01] <marK```> i just got a new computer, took the old harddrive out of the previous compu
[13:01] <marK```> i didnt know you could do that
[13:02] <KosheeN> n909 ... thank you !
[13:03] <KosheeN> i found it . you are correct
[13:03] <n909> i know
[13:06] <eriksclbo> no
[13:06] <eriksclbo> AntHr4XOs
[13:06] <eriksclbo> i dunno
[13:06] <eriksclbo> how do i chk?
[13:06] <eriksclbo> i have a user have access admin wich have passwd
[13:08] <eriksclbo> any idea AntHr4XOs?
[13:08] <lenis> help:( i cant find codec for my sony://
[13:09] <lenis> sony camera DSC-P52.. help me please.. i transfered my video into pc and my p
[13:11] <paxilback> Can an operator message someone in #ocd (which requires an invitation) th
[13:11] <n909> that won't be possible, sorry.
[13:11] <phisher1> you can /knock #ocd
[13:12] <paxilback> thanks
[13:12] <paxilback> n909, and why not?
[13:13] <phisher1> you have to be invited to invite only channels
[13:13] <n909> paxilback, all the users in the channel are usermode +i (invisible)
[13:13] <paxilback> n909, if you have access to the channel, you can join it and talk to them
[13:13] <n909> i don't have any more access than you do.
[13:14] <paxilback> the IRC operators can't access invite only channels?
[13:15] <paxilback> It would be kindof weird if not even IRC operators could access them to s
[13:15] <paxilback> to prevent abuse.
[13:15] <deww> paxilback: only, like you, if that oper was invited
[13:15] <paxilback> isn't that a risc for abuse on the network?
[13:16] <mega`> when you knock then all chan users get notified?
[13:16] <phisher1> channel ops do
[13:16] <deww> paxilback: opers aren't here to monitor channel actvities
[13:16] <paxilback> deww, Not to any extent?
[13:16] <paxilback> I thought you tried to maintain atleast some control
[13:16] <paxilback> that not ...let's say terrorist or illegal activites take place.
[13:17] * deww wonders which network paxilback came from.
[13:17] <paxilback> My LAN ;P
[13:17] <ial> illegal activities take place in non invite/keyed channels
[13:17] <paxilback> Oh well.
[13:18] <paxilback> I got a technical explanation for my reason to be here.
[13:18] <jackal^> paxilback, you might want to read this http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/
[13:18] <paxilback> Thank you for that.
[13:18] <deww> paxilback: wouldn't you hate it if your landlord can sit in your apt/house to
[13:18] <paxilback> The rest is merely a philosopical conversation.
[13:18] <paxilback> if you don't mind it I can continue ;)
[13:18] <deww> paxilback: anyways. irc isn't the best place to ask for medical type advice
[13:19] <paxilback> deww, Thanks I know. I see my therapist every week and eat my meds. I am
[13:19] <paxilback> I might start one.
[13:19] <paxilback> Perhaps not advice as much as support by people who share the disease and
[13:20] <paxilback> jackal^, ok
[13:20] <iNToIT> so basically a troll channel
[13:20] <paxilback> iNToIT, what do you mean by that?
[13:20] <iNToIT> if you are serious about starting a channel for OCD support, you may not wan
[13:21] <iNToIT> start a website, and run a private ircd
[13:21] <chains> can someone tell me if these instructions will work on an ubuntu system:
[13:21] <chains> http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21
[13:21] <chains> ?
[13:22] <pixil> chains: No
[13:22] <pixil> At least until you get apt.
[13:22] <paxilback> iNToIT, I get your point without further explanation but still a public i
[13:23] <chains> pixil, what do you mean?
[13:23] <pixil> Actually, I take that back.
[13:23] <chains> apt comes preinstalled
[13:23] <chains> hehh
[13:23] <paxilback> chains, by what exactly?
[13:23] <paxilback> oh
[13:23] <paxilback> ehm.
[13:24] <eriksclbo> hello help pls i want to reset my windows xp passwd i cannont access i fo
[13:24] <eriksclbo> pls help
[13:24] <eriksclbo> !!
[13:24] <pixil> apt-cache search those packages to make sure the package names are the same (
[13:24] <chains> oh
[13:24] <ial> eriksclbo: did you say before you have a user account with admin right that you
[13:24] <pixil> Unless ubuntu names its packages verbatim to debian
[13:24] <chains> pixil, well i've created and copied the .deb
[13:25] <chains> on a debian machine
[13:25] <pixil> Why aren't you using synaptic? :-)
[13:25] <chains> what i'm wondering is if i i can take that and the kernel config
[13:25] <chains> pixil, i did this on a debian machine
[13:25] <chains> to enable PAE
[13:25] <eriksclbo> yes
[13:25] <eriksclbo> no
[13:25] <eriksclbo> ial
[13:25] <eriksclbo> i cant login
[13:25] <eriksclbo> i have a login user wich is admin wich have passwd and i forget it
[13:26] <eriksclbo> that with what i work
[13:26] <eriksclbo> only this user
[13:26] <nsfw> eriksclbo: Admin or administrator?
[13:26] <Ltm> éîïòâîþìàòü
[13:26] <ial> oh, then i think you need ntpasswd or whatever. PITA :(
[13:26] <eriksclbo> but when start my computer
[13:26] <eriksclbo> there only this user
[13:26] <eriksclbo> no admin
[13:26] <ial> http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/
[13:26] <paxilback> Goodbye. Have a nice day all.
[13:26] <nsfw> eriksclbo: HEre's a trick
[13:26] <nsfw> eriksclbo: restart in safe mode
[13:26] <eriksclbo> ok
[13:26] <eriksclbo> then?
[13:26] <nsfw> eriksclbo: Login with the username 'Administrator' no password
[13:26] <eriksclbo> ok
[13:26] <eriksclbo> sec
[13:26] <eriksclbo> i try it
[13:26] <nsfw> unless you set a password during windows xp setup (which 99.999% of people don
[13:26] <nsfw> then start > control panel > users
[13:27] <nsfw> and change the password for the user in question
[13:27] <eriksclbo> ok thx bro i try it
[13:27] <Tropic-La> does anyone know of a good program that'll let me record high quality but
[13:27] <nsfw> Tropic-La: Pro tools? ;)
[13:27] <pixil> Tropic-La: That's not a limit in the software, that's a limit in the codecs a
[13:28] <Tropic-La> not necessarily
[13:28] <pixil> flac, in my opinion, is the best 'bang' for your buck in terms of quality ver
[13:28] <pixil> But that's a highly debated topic.
[13:28] <Nightwork> Yay, lossless audio.
[13:28] <Tropic-La> it can always break it up into xxxMB or xxxMIN segments
[13:28] <pixil> Nightwork: Well. SHN is lossless too, but it's half the size of wav files. :
[13:28] <Tropic-La> i do want decent compression though, since it could potentially be any le
[13:29] <Nightwork> pixil, all of the lossless formats are around the same compression ratio.
[13:29] <Tropic-La> is there a simpler program than pro tools that anyone knows of
[13:29] <pixil> flac seems to do much better than shn, in my experience
[13:29] <Nightwork> pixil, I use WMA lossless, just because it's easy and requires no extra c
[13:29] <pixil> but, they're still much larger than mp3
[13:29] <Nightwork> No way to avoid that, you're not tossing out half the music like MP3 does
[13:29] <pixil> yeah
[13:30] <Nightwork> Get a great SACD, then rip it into MP3. bleh.
[13:31] <Tropic-La> i have a sound recorder that records 3-8 hours in 3 to 30mb
[13:31] <Tropic-La> are there any programs that will give me that sort of compression/
[13:31] <intx> A-2-3-9 beats 2-3-4-5 in badugi right?
[13:31] <Nightwork> That's a pretty low bitrate, heh.
[13:32] <Tropic-La> it sounds decent though, i don't know how it works so well
[13:33] <Nightwork> What recorder is it?
[13:33] <pixil> You prolly can't tell the difference. :-)
[13:34] <Tropic-La> i forget which brand
[13:35] <Afoyled> what is the best format for a video file to be in...if its on an ipod/zune.
[13:36] <eriksclbo> ho
[13:36] <eriksclbo> pls
[13:36] <eriksclbo> help
[13:36] <eriksclbo> i have
[13:36] <AntHr4XOs> Ask your question
[13:36] <eriksclbo> run computer in safe mode
[13:36] <eriksclbo> but
[13:36] <eriksclbo> my user hanane wich have admin access
[13:37] <eriksclbo> i cant remove it to write administrator
[13:37] <eriksclbo> is fixed
[13:37] <eriksclbo> i can write just passwd
[13:38] <deww> eriksclbo: this may or may not help you http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd
[13:38] <eriksclbo> what touches in keyboard i pres to let me login with pass
[13:38] <eriksclbo> login admin
[13:39] <Nightwork> If you're at the welcome screen and admin isn't showing, double tapping c
[13:39] <eriksclbo> ok
[13:39] <eriksclbo> thx bro
[13:42] <eriksclbo> Nightwork is vista not xp
[13:42] <eriksclbo> im stupide:(
[13:43] <eriksclbo> how i can do it in vista
[13:44] <Nightwork> Oh.
[13:44] <Nightwork> I have no idea, I don't use Vista.
[13:44] <eriksclbo> ok
[13:44] <Nightwork> I should probably get around to installing it on one of my systems, heh.
[13:45] <Nightwork> XP x64 just works great, though.
[13:45] <eriksclbo> true no 1 can help pls?
[13:45] <Afoyled> what is the best format for a video file to be in...if its on an ipod/zune.
[13:46] <deww> eriksclbo: http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/ again
[13:46] <deww> eriksclbo: you'll need to read everything on that siite carefully
[13:49] <eriksclbo> ok
[13:49] <eriksclbo> works for vista too?
[13:49] <eriksclbo> the reset disk
[13:49] <jackal^> <@deww> eriksclbo: you'll need to read everything on that siite caref
[13:50] <eriksclbo> ok
[13:50] <deww> and please, no more "pls help"
[13:50] <deww> :/
[13:51] <ducch> pls help!
[13:51] <ducch> *hides*
[13:51] * deww grins
[13:51] <Afoyled> :)
[13:52] <deww> i guess he went home for the day
[13:55] <DiademAwa> what's the point of getting a building card from the town hall when you a
[13:56] <rhelic> DiademAwa; you mean a "construction permit" ? no you don't need one just to
[13:56] <DiademAwa> rhelic: i asked for the history of the house from the twon hall because e
[13:58] <John_E> any administers from the revtt sitehere?
[13:59] <DiademAwa> rhelic: well thanks then :) it's good to know there wasn't anything magic
[14:08] <Dr_Nick22> Anyone recommend a multieffects guitar pedal that works with vista?
[14:08] <Lindy_> DiademAwa I think you are talking about title searches.
[14:09] <RcHaCk> hey Lindy_
[14:09] <Lindy_> which tell you if there are outstanding liens
[14:09] <Lindy_> hey RcHaCk
[14:09] <FBERN> I try booting and I get an error saying that I'm missing and need to install
[14:09] <RcHaCk> how are you
[14:09] <Lindy_> good
[14:09] <Lindy_> you ?
[14:12] <RcHaCk> good
[14:13] <DrgdHmstr> hi Lindy_
[14:13] <rhelic> FBERN: I could email it to you, are you running XP SP2?
[14:13] <DiademAwa> second question... they are popping up an open house, is it a bad idea to
[14:13] <FBERN> SP3
[14:13] <FBERN> i have an installation cd.... is it on there?
[14:13] <rhelic> FBERN: oh, you need the SP3 version
[14:14] <FBERN> I have WinXP w/ SP3 installation cd.
[14:14] <rhelic> I'd open up SP3 .EXE with 7Zip and retrieve hal.dll
[14:14] <frood> FBERN : You need the correct version for your processor. There are many HALs
[14:14] <Yoisers> doesnt mirc have a built in calculator?
[14:14] <Yoisers> command line
[14:15] <rhelic> FBERN: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/findbyerrormessage/a/missinghaldll.htm
[14:15] <FBERN> frood so what should i be doing?
[14:15] <frood> That depends on whether this is a fresh install or an upgrade
[14:16] <frood> I didn't know SP3 for XP was out
[14:16] <rhelic> it's not, it's still beta, hasn't even gone RC yet
[14:16] <DrgdHmstr> does it include anything i wouldn't already have by virtue of keeping on
[14:17] <rhelic> oh course it does
[14:17] <bobrules> do I need to be verified to receive money in paypal?
[14:17] <BlackTeaM> ananý sikeyim
[14:17] <rhelic> but I'd at least wait for RC
[14:17] <DrgdHmstr> such as...?
[14:17] <DrgdHmstr> now im curious
[14:17] <rhelic> Bob54: no
[14:17] <BlackTeaM> DrgdHmstr hello
[14:18] <BlackTeaM> /cs set #help founder BlackTeaM pLs
[14:18] <rhelic> DrgdHmstr: all the private bug fixes, plus it includes new Policy stuff that
[14:18] <DrgdHmstr> rhelic: for home and mce even?
[14:18] <frood> Didn't they include IPV6 support in it or something?
[14:18] <rhelic> DrgdHmstr: if you want to know more, read the white paper http://www.micros
[14:19] <rhelic> frood: perhaps IPv6 improvements, but XP has supported IPv6 for a long time
[14:19] <DrgdHmstr> rhelic, thanks
[14:19] <frood> They probably broke several hundred things so more people would buy Vista
[14:19] <BlackTeaM> frood
[14:20] <frood> ?
[14:20] <BlackTeaM> /cs set #help founder BlackTeaM
[14:20] <BlackTeaM> Oke
[14:21] <BlackTeaM> frood
[14:21] <frood> what?
[14:22] <BlackTeaM> there ý tear
[14:22] <BlackTeaM> Pls
[14:22] <BlackTeaM> Oke
[14:22] <Lindy_> hey hammie
[14:22] <KaMiKaZa> SP3 RC2 Is RTM?
[14:23] <BlackTeaM> frood
[14:23] <rhelic> no, nobody said that
[14:23] <rhelic> BlackTeaM: perhaps you need to practice being less annoying
[14:23] <BlackTeaM> I ' Turksh you frood
[14:24] <BlackTeaM> rhelic
[14:24] <frood> BlackTeaM : what?
[14:24] <BlackTeaM> ?
[14:24] <BlackTeaM> Hello ÝSTANBUL/Turkey
[14:24] <BlackTeaM> you
[14:25] <frood> Hello to you my Constantinopolian friend.
[14:25] <frood> Or should I call it Miklagard
[14:25] <BlackTeaM> faR YOU frood
[14:26] <BlackTeaM> I' ÝRC' THERE ONME
[14:26] <BlackTeaM> frood
[14:27] <frood> I was just reading about how the Vangarians traveled from Finland to Constant
[14:27] <BlackTeaM> You Firland
[14:42] <BlackTeaM> I fuck You
[14:43] <rhelic> man wtf, I buy a top of the line LCD monitor, here I am 3 weeks later and I
[14:43] <ernestute> kaip uzsiregistruoti nick?
[14:43] <rhelic> it's a faint redish, small, not bright, actually hard to notice, but still,
[14:43] <phisher1> ernestute: http://irchelp.org/noserv
[14:44] <Afoyled> what is the best format for a video file to be in...if its on an ipod/zune.
[14:44] <rhelic> Afoyled: eh, you can't have it both ways with iPod, zune is a diff story
[14:44] <rhelic> the iPod requires the video to be MP4, and it's VERY picky about the resolut
[14:45] <rhelic> only the Zune properly handles any video and any resolution
[14:45] <Afoyled> ok
[14:45] <Afoyled> hmm
[14:45] <rhelic> basically, you have to use Quicktime or a compatible encoder for the video t
[14:45] <Afoyled> i see different kinds of choices to rip dvds to
[14:45] <rhelic> but iPod quality is not TV quality, you won't like it
[14:45] <Afoyled> like mp4..or mp4 for tv..or mp4 for 16:9 devices
[14:45] <Afoyled> ok
[14:45] <Afoyled> how about for zune?
[14:46] <rhelic> zune, do what you want
[14:46] <Afoyled> what would you recommend
[14:46] <rhelic> it supports pretty much everything, I think even DiVX
[14:46] <Afoyled> hmm..i don't think i can get divx on there
[14:46] <Afoyled> at least it won't let me
[14:46] <Afoyled> i've been trying mp4 with zune..
[14:47] <Afoyled> but not sure that is the best choice
[14:47] <rhelic> ok no DiVX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune#Zune_software
[14:47] <Afoyled> i'm trying to find the best pic/sound format i guess for zune
[14:47] <rhelic> MP4 is a good format
[14:47] <rhelic> honestly, you could say DiVX is based upon MP4
[14:47] <Afoyled> i love divx..just wish my zune would accept it
[14:47] <Afoyled> would make life simplier
[14:48] <rhelic> mell the Xbox 360 supports DiVX, zune support is always possible, maybe
[14:48] <Afoyled> can you recommend any good programs for converting to mp4
[14:48] <Afoyled> i've tried so many
[14:48] <Afoyled> with little success
[14:48] <rhelic> no idea, I don't encode video
[14:48] <Afoyled> ok
[14:48] <rhelic> afk
[14:48] <Afoyled> thank you though
[14:51] <phisher1> Afoyled: to go on an ipod?
[14:51] <phisher1> videoera will convert mpeg to mp4
[14:54] <intx> what do you guys usually install on a windows PC for a less advanced computer
[14:55] * Osc_HE is now known as Osc
[14:55] <ESDww> hello
[14:58] <ESDww> I can't find my external harddisc-drive in 'my computer'. It's connected and
[14:58] <frood> ESDww : it could be that it just isn't getting a drive letter. Check in disk
[14:59] <frood> run - compmgmt.msc - If it isn't there then it isn't being recognized
[14:59] <frood> intx : Spybot S&D, Spyware blaster, CCleaner with automatic cleaning on start
[15:00] <frood> intx : Or if you can get a copy of it. Faronics Deepfreeze so they can't brea
[15:00] <frood> intx : It's also helpful to set aside a HD partition with a clone image of ho
[15:01] <ESDww> frood: I can't find it there :/ What can I do then?
[15:01] <ESDww> i have tried to reboot and disconnect the harddisc several times
[15:01] <ESDww> and it's not working
[15:03] <frood> I've had some external enclosures go bad on me before.
[15:04] <frood> Try connecting it directly to the PC.
[15:04] <ESDww> I have done that.. With USB cable. hmm
[15:04] <ESDww> isen't that what you mean?
[15:04] <frood> Take it out of the enclosure if you ca.
[15:04] <frood> can.
[15:04] <frood> Hook it up directly using an IDE/SATA cable. See if your BIOS will detect it
[15:05] <frood> Well, first try a flash drive or other USB device to make sure your USB ports
[15:05] <frood> If your USB ports are fine try removing the drive from its enclosure and conn
[15:06] <ESDww> what does enclosure mean? my USB device IS working: I Tried connecting my ipo
[15:06] <frood> If you can't detect the drive with a direct connection that means it's fried.
[15:06] <frood> Most external hard drives are a regular hard drive sitting inside a fancy box
[15:06] <frood> open box, remove drive
[15:06] <ESDww> oh
[15:06] <frood> open computer, insert drive, connect cables
[15:07] <ESDww> okay. I will try that!
[15:07] <ESDww> Thanks for your time
[15:07] <bloodaway> what is the difference between D and 4 , 3 , 2 , L on a car
[15:09] <DrgdHmstr> ...what?
[15:09] <frood> bloodaway : Drive, 4th gear - 2nd gear and Low gear
[15:10] <DrgdHmstr> ...
[15:10] <bit_logic> hi
[15:11] <ESDww> frood: when I turn off my harddisc on the disconnecter placed on it, my compu
[15:11] <ESDww> and when I turn it on it says the sound again
[15:12] <ESDww> but the drive dosen't show up in 'my computer' with my other harddisc (not ex
[15:12] <bloodaway> frood yah but what is the differences
[15:12] <frood> ESDww : That just means that it's recognizing a USB device. If your drive is
[15:12] <ESDww> ok. I sure hope it's not fried
[15:13] <bit_logic> is it possible to change the appearance of the cursor at the command prom
[15:13] <bit_logic> a hack or something
[15:13] <frood> bloodaway : Gears on the car are how your engine translates engine power to t
[15:13] <frood> bloodaway : The higher the gear the less torque you get but at better speeds.
[15:14] <bloodaway> ahh
[15:14] <bloodaway> so
[15:14] <bloodaway> a low gear is good for what
[15:14] <bloodaway> winter driving?
[15:14] <frood> nah. It depends more on how fast your going
[15:14] <bloodaway> so should i ever put it on a lower gear
[15:14] <frood> Low gear is reserved primarily for when your car just starts moving
[15:14] <bloodaway> than just D
[15:15] <bloodaway> i always put my car on D
[15:15] <bloodaway> seems to work for everything
[15:15] <frood> Most automatic cars will shift gears automatically for you. The only time you
[15:15] <frood> that's what automatic transmission means.
[15:15] <bloodaway> my car is automatic
[15:15] <bloodaway> but i got D 4, 3 , 2 and L
[15:16] <bloodaway> when is it good to use N then
[15:16] <frood> When you hear your engine revving up and then going down to a lower speed whe
[15:16] <ESDww> frood: Now it works!!! I turned off the power again, but this time it actuall
[15:16] <frood> bloodaway : N or Neutral disconnect the drive train from the engine.
[15:16] <bloodaway> frood dont you mean thats a sign of doing to a lower gear?
[15:17] <frood> bloodaway : If you're slowing down it might shift into a lower gear but usual
[15:18] <frood> that's why people who drive stick shift can downshift to slow down the car wi
[15:18] <frood> ESDww : Check it with a manufacturer util. A dying drive isn't as bad as a de
[15:19] <ESDww> okay, will do. thanks
[15:20] <frood> bloodaway : For example, if you were driving 30mph at 3rd gear and your at 20
[15:20] <Basmaster> lookin to build a custom linux router. useing things such as HTB wlan de
[15:20] <bloodaway> frood if i drove my automatic car like a manual one
[15:20] <bloodaway> is that good or bad
[15:20] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:20] <frood> bloodaway : it's a waste of time. The whole point of automatic transmission i
[15:21] <frood> bloodaway : I'm pretty sure the engineers who designed the car have a better
[15:22] <frood> Basmaster : If you aren't looking for anything to difficult to setup IPCOP an
[15:22] <bloodaway> i just like the feeling
[15:23] <bloodaway> that i have teh safety of the passengers in my hand
[15:23] <frood> bloodaway : Well, if you don't know how to drive stick you won't.
[15:23] <bloodaway> thats part of the excitement
[15:23] <frood> You'll probably destroy your transmission.
[15:23] <frood> If you want to learn how to drive stick buy a stick shift car.
[15:26] <frood> bloodaway : http://www.leemyles.com/articles/your-drive-train-explained.html
[15:29] <frood> bloodaway : All that said, driving stick is more fun and gives you better con
[15:30] <frood> it's especially good for driving in shitty conditions
[15:30] <frood> Soon transmissions will be a thing of the past though. Electrical engines alw
[15:39] <avrFreak2> I cannot get identd or DCC send to work, no matter what I do. It appears
[15:40] <frood> check to see if windows firewall or any other firewall app is blocking it on
[15:41] <avrFreak2> frood: thanks. Have done, no, Windows firewall is disabled. (usig Vista
[15:41] <avrFreak2> The firewall in my aDSL modem was creating some issues, but once we place
[15:42] <frood> avrFreak2 : Have you upgraded the firmware on your router? Sometimes port for
[15:42] <frood> I just ran into one yesterday where wireless connections wouldn't pull a DHCP
[15:43] <avrFreak2> frood: yes, running most recent verison of firmware listed on Linksys s
[15:43] <avrFreak2> and not using any wireless
[15:44] <f50> what would be better to create a bespoke database program? visual studio or vis
[15:44] <avrFreak2> "bespoke?"
[15:45] <avrFreak2> I would personally alwasy choose to avoid Microsoft applications, given t
[15:45] <f50> what do you recommend please
[15:46] <avrFreak2> Fox-Pro is excellent database software
[15:46] <frood> avrFreak2 : Do you have both TCP and UDP forwaded?
[15:46] <avrFreak2> frood: I do, yes
[15:46] <frood> avrFreak2 : list the ports you have forwarded
[15:46] <frood> port/protocol/ip
[15:46] <avrFreak2> or, ore accurately, the router *SAYS* I do in the relevent configuration
[15:47] <avrFreak2> frood: 113 for identd, and 1024-1031 for DCC
[15:47] <avrFreak2> They are all forwarded to the NAT address assigned to my personal PC
[15:48] <frood> do you have any type of limitation on which outside IPs can send these reques
[15:49] <f50> i need to create a bespoke database application, so foxpro is good?
[15:49] <avrFreak2> frood: none listed in the configuration
[15:49] <avrFreak2> I don't know what you mean by a "bespoke" database. FoxPro is an excelle
[15:50] <frood> avrFreak2 : have you read - http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/security/fwfaq.htm
[15:51] <Sculptor> hey avrFreak2 sup
[15:51] <frood> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/linksys_router_help_pg4.htm
[15:51] <f50> bespoke as in customised
[15:52] <CottonEye> hello, is there anyway to convert videos for my ipod besides using quick
[15:52] <avrFreak2> f50: any database package will allow you to create "customized" databas
[15:53] <frood> avrFreak2 : There is a DCC section on the above link.
[15:53] <avrFreak2> frood: looking now, thanks
[15:53] <f50> kk anything apart from Ms Access
[16:01] <avrFreak2> frood: I see nothing of use there, thanks
[16:01] <avrFreak2> f50: again, that is a personal preference issue. Access could also be us
[16:01] <f50> thanks
[16:02] <frood> avrFreak2 : http://www.ircpolitics.org/tech/linksys-dcc.html - http://mirchel
[16:05] <avrFreak2> frood: what they are describing on that URL is exactly what I have alread
[16:08] <frood> avrFreak2 : well, I'm out of ideas.
[16:08] <frood> avrFreak2 : Are you sure you don't have DCC ignore turned on or something?
[16:09] <avrFreak2> frood: yes. Also, how would that affect identd?
[16:10] <frood> it wouldn't but the two problems aren't nessecarily related
[16:11] <avrFreak2> ahh....I nsuppose that is possible, yeah
[16:11] <frood> I don't support your router provides you with a log of what it's blocking doe
[16:13] <avrFreak2> no, I don't believe so.
[16:15] <frood> what model of router is it again?
[16:15] <avrFreak2> WRT54G *(Linksys)
[16:16] <belter> in the mirc options, goto identd, and take the check out of "enable only on
[16:16] <Sculptor> it does
[16:16] <frood> avrFreak2 : http://www.softsland.com/link_logger_linksys_wrt54ggs.html
[16:16] <Sculptor> avrFreak2, you can even install syslog server on one on your machines, and
[16:16] <Sculptor> to HDD
[16:17] <belter> than from a command prompt run > netstat -a | findstr auth
[16:17] <frood> freeware app to get your linksys firewall logs
[16:17] <Sculptor> wrt54 is rather decent, once you install ddrwt firmware
[16:17] <frood> sorry, shareware.
[16:17] <belter> avrFreak2: see above
[16:18] <avrFreak2> belter: netstat just hangs
[16:18] <Sculptor> avrFreak2, if you want ident to work, you have to forward port 113 to your
[16:18] <Choke_Rod> anybody know how to use MS Publisher?
[16:19] <Choke_Rod> I don't know how to link a picture
[16:19] <belter> 1. telnet avrFreak2 113, make a connection attempt and is not refused... it
[16:19] <avrFreak2> Sculptor: my router CLAIMS port 113 *IS* forwarded to my machine
[16:19] <belter> 2. if the netstat comes back with auth listening than identd is running
[16:19] <frood> belter : Download a proggie called tcp-view
[16:20] <frood> for easier netstating
[16:20] <Sculptor> avrFreak2, try netstat -ab
[16:20] <belter> so the next step would be to find out why can we not establish a 3 way hands
[16:20] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[16:20] <Sculptor> you should see your ident listening to port 113
[16:20] <Sculptor> identd
[16:20] <belter> reboot the box, power cycle the router... this is windows
[16:21] <belter> and only if he has taken the check out of "enable identd only on connections
[16:21] <frood> TCPView is a gui version of netstat - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi
[16:21] <belter> and it will be listed as "auth" not identd, due to the services file
[16:22] <avrFreak2> nestat -ab returns instantly with no output
[16:22] * f50 is now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (log\on pager\on)
[16:22] <avrFreak2> yeahm, I removed "enable identd only on connections"
[16:23] <Sculptor> avrFreak2, ...
[16:23] <Sculptor> start -> run: cmd
[16:24] <Sculptor> then type : netstat -ab
[16:24] <gil_> hello
[16:24] <Sculptor> i run identd on my desktop, and i forward port 113 to it
[16:25] <gil_> hello, i need a registration key for funfile, could anybody help me please?
[16:25] <avrFreak2> sculptor: it says "the requested operation reqauires elevation"
[16:27] <gil_> i want to be a member of FunFile
[16:27] <gil_> i need a registration key please
[16:28] <avrFreak2> well, go pay for one, moron
[16:30] <gil_> :) hahahah okey take it easy men
[16:30] <gil_> A message from one of the moderators posted in the shoutbox on funfile:
[16:30] <gil_> If you know anyone who wants to be a member of FunFIle come to our irc network
[16:30] <gil_> ^6667 is the port. join server irc.funfile.org and then join channel #help^
[16:30] <gil_> so join the irc and get your free invite. ask them for a REGISTRATION KEY
[16:30] <gil_> i just follow that lead avrFreak2
[16:31] <avrFreak2> off hand, I;d say you faikled to connect to server irc.funfile.org
[16:31] <gil_> uuups sorry im new to IRC
[16:31] <gil_> tanx man
[16:31] <gil_> leave #help
[16:32] <gil_> leave
[16:32] <gil_> exit
[16:32] <spknspell> FINISH HIM
[16:34] <avrFreak2> *heh*
[16:37] <themeth> I have a questions about conneting my new computer to my television.
[16:38] <themeth> is this the proper channel to ask such a question in?
[16:38] <Sycho> ask away
[16:38] <themeth> ok
[16:38] <avrFreak2> possibly. ask and we'll see
[16:38] <DrgdHmstr> victor@ron.paul.2008
[16:38] <themeth> I just bought a new box to use for games and what not, and I'd like to hook
[16:38] <avrFreak2> ronpaul?> ***ARGH***
[16:38] <themeth> my TV has component and HDMI in.
[16:38] <themeth> yup.
[16:38] <themeth> anyway.
[16:39] <themeth> the video card that came with this box has, I believe, DVI out.
[16:39] <themeth> the white dsub connectors are DVI correct?
[16:39] <themeth> is that the proper term?
[16:39] <themeth> the white dsub connector on my video card.
[16:39] <DrgdHmstr> dvi to hdmi adapter
[16:39] <themeth> now will that translate?
[16:39] <themeth> that will work ok?
[16:39] <Sycho> yeah dvi is high def
[16:39] <themeth> just a DVI to HDMI adapter?
[16:39] <themeth> ok.
[16:39] <Sycho> either use an hdmi lead and a dvd/hdmi adapter
[16:40] <Sycho> or a dvi > hdmi lead
[16:40] <DrgdHmstr> be aware though that it will only provide video, and your tv may also be
[16:40] <themeth> right.
[16:40] <themeth> that's another problem.
[16:40] <themeth> I'm either going to have to get a surround sound system to send the audio f
[16:40] <themeth> or, I'm going to have to get a DVI to component adapter.
[16:41] <themeth> I assume they make those?
[16:41] <DrgdHmstr> get a good receiver
[16:41] <themeth> DVI to component?
[16:41] <Sycho> dvi still only does video
[16:41] <themeth> if I use DVI to component, I can send the audio from the sound card to the
[16:41] <Sycho> if it was hdmi > hdmi then it would do video and audio
[16:42] <themeth> the other question is, how will that look?
[16:42] <DrgdHmstr> themeth: what res is your tv?
[16:42] <themeth> my tv does 1080i, 720p and 720i
[16:42] <themeth> it doesn't do 1080p
[16:42] <avrFreak2> themethL rich dude, eh?
[16:42] <Sycho> it should go at 1280 x 720 then
[16:42] <DrgdHmstr> most tvs won't do 1080 on component
[16:42] <themeth> my tv will do 1080 on component I'm prett ysure
[16:43] <themeth> I mean my cable box does HD and I have it hooked up component
[16:43] <DrgdHmstr> make sure you check, its usually in small print
[16:43] <themeth> and I don't think its doing 720
[16:43] <DrgdHmstr> in the manual
[16:43] <themeth> really.
[16:43] <Sycho> isnt 720 pretty much equal to 1080i?
[16:44] <avrFreak2> Sycho: you are joking,m right?
[16:44] <nsfw> woah
[16:44] <nsfw> who unbanned avrFreak2 lol
[16:44] <avrFreak2> nsfw: it wasn't me
[16:44] <nsfw> oh please
[16:45] <avrFreak2> nsfw: now, hbow would I go about unbanning myself?
[16:45] <nsfw> oh lol
[16:47] <Sycho> nah not joking avrFreak2
[16:47] <Sycho> tis why loads of US networks use 720 instead of 1080i, coz its better for fas
[16:47] <Sycho> 1080i flickers
[16:48] <avrFreak2> doesn't make them "equivalent" Sycho...mere suggests that on SOME receive
[16:48] <nsfw> lol
[16:48] <nsfw> they are diff purposes
[16:49] <avrFreak2> Personally, I donsider digital TV a crock of crap
[16:49] <Sycho> well lets just say it isnt near 1080p then
[16:49] <nsfw> avrFreak2: play nice
[16:49] <avrFreak2> I am playing nice, nfsw
[16:49] <Sycho> yippee
[16:50] <phisher1> he's got 2 months left
[16:50] <Sycho> (themeth) does ur tv have any other audio inputs?
[16:50] <phisher1> Sycho: please disable your nick complete
[16:51] <phisher1> or just remove the colors
[16:51] <Sycho> i disable it everytime i open mirc :\ stupid thing
[16:52] <phisher1> 1180i eh
[16:52] * phisher1 sighs
[16:52] <Sycho> phisher1
[16:52] <Sycho> wahey. sorted
[16:52] <Sycho> :P
[16:52] <phisher1> thanks =)
[16:53] <khruschev> man why does HP have to take 1.25hours for their drivers to install
[16:54] <khruschev> somebody needs to slap them
[16:54] <khruschev> i'm going to stop recommending their printers because of this
[16:54] <frood> khruschev : For the same reason they have to change their website every 3 wee
[16:55] <frood> khruschev : It's not the drivers that kill you. It's all the crapware they bu
[16:55] <khruschev> even so
[16:55] <Sycho> my hp printer made me late for lectures :( needed to print the slides off but
[16:55] <khruschev> it didn't take me this long to install Half LIfe 2 for pete's sake
[16:56] <frood> You can usually find the driver only package on their website
[16:57] <DrgdHmstr> hp software is total garbage
[16:58] <DrgdHmstr> it is for that reason that i really dont like to buy them anymore
[16:58] <DrgdHmstr> their driver model has been retarded and unnecessarily obfuscated for yea
[16:58] <IamKing> which printer manufacturer do you recommend then?
[16:59] <khruschev> if i didn't hate lex so much
[16:59] <DrgdHmstr> depends on the printer you need, i guess
[16:59] <DrgdHmstr> lex only sucks on the low end
[16:59] <rgrcrg> so dont use the software, only install the drivers
[16:59] <belter> can i get help writing a script to md5 two directories, compare the outputs
[16:59] <spknspell> get something with a network connection for sure
[17:00] <khruschev> canon sucks too.. with their 'defeat recycling/compatible' microchipped c
[17:00] <khruschev> i just don't get how it can take this long
[17:00] <khruschev> it's a 600mb disc
[17:00] <spknspell> good luck belter
[17:01] <DrgdHmstr> belter: what shell?
[17:01] <belter> suse 10.3
[17:01] <DrgdHmstr> yes but what shell
[17:02] <belter> bash prefured
[17:02] <DrgdHmstr> bash? ksh? csh?
[17:02] <DrgdHmstr> oh ok
[17:02] <DrgdHmstr> no idea :D
[17:02] <belter> ksh
[17:03] <DrgdHmstr> why does md5 have to be involved
[17:03] <DrgdHmstr> isntead of like diff
[17:03] <DrgdHmstr> please note: i dont have any idea what im talking about
[17:03] <spknspell> sorry
[17:05] <spknspell> ive amazingly have never touched any encryption or security of those sort
[17:06] * phisher1_ is now known as phisher2_
[17:07] * phisher2_ is now known as phisher3
[17:08] <phisher1> looking good
[17:10] <frood> Does anyone know of a way to run two executables simultaniously from a batch
[17:10] <frood> Say, I want to run calc.exe and notepad.exe at the same time
[17:10] <frood> if I script it as:
[17:10] <frood> calc.exe
[17:10] <frood> notepad.exe
[17:11] <frood> the batch processor waits for calc to close before opening notepad
[17:15] <spknspell> no multi tasking dos, but you can do calls which i dont think would solve
[17:18] <spknspell> You can also use the START batch command, it has lots of options for star
[17:19] <spknspell> http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/482738-batch-file-open-multi
[17:19] <spknspell> bleh, anyone dualboot with vista?
[17:20] <larry2> I need a 16-20GB external hardrive
[17:20] <larry2> not sure if I want flash drive or what
[17:20] <spknspell> heh, make sure its ethernet
[17:20] <larry2> anyone know any goo places to buy em?
[17:20] <larry2> good
[17:20] <AntHr4XOs> www.newegg.com
[17:20] <AntHr4XOs> ebay.com
[17:20] <spknspell> tigerdirect's got one for $300
[17:20] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[17:20] <AntHr4XOs> zipzoomfly.com
[17:20] <larry2> $300 is a lot
[17:20] <spknspell> usb external are slow as crap
[17:21] <frood> larry2 : You're better off with a flash drive.
[17:21] <spknspell> 2gb will take over an hr on usb 1.0
[17:21] <frood> larry2 : nobody makes 20gb hard drives anymore
[17:21] <larry2> well its to take stuff off my laptop
[17:22] <frood> larry2 : Is the device going to be mobile? Are you using it as a backup devic
[17:22] <spknspell> slave your drive or buy some 8gb discs or copy over ethernet
[17:23] <s1> hi, i have a video thats 230MB and in .MOV format I want to significantly decrea
[17:23] <larry2> laptop
[17:23] <larry2> youtube will convert it
[17:23] <spknspell> .wmv?
[17:23] <larry2> and reduce quality
[17:23] <s1> no it wont
[17:23] <s1> will it ?
[17:23] <larry2> but you need your videos 100MB or less I think
[17:24] <s1> thats what im saying
[17:24] <larry2> get a converter program (freeware) that has all the settings
[17:24] <spknspell> wmv is wicked compression i thought
[17:24] <larry2> and the ability to show you what it will look like + the file size
[17:24] <s1> wmv is what I should use ?
[17:24] <larry2> not sure about that
[17:24] <larry2> anything that starts with windows
[17:24] <larry2> scares me
[17:24] <s1> whats a good video converter software
[17:25] <s1> i dont care if its freeware or not
[17:25] <larry2> video converter software #1 on google probably the best
[17:25] <larry2> underneath the sponsored ads
[17:25] <larry2> and your answer has been asked like 1,000 times I sure so ask google your qu
[17:26] * spknspell corners RBl
[17:31] <maxftball> any1 wanna help me with my tv problems?
[17:32] <phisher1> try asking a specific question
[17:33] <maxftball> ok, my tv does not get reception on channel 65-90 it is an old RCA tv. Be
[17:33] <maxftball> using cable^
[17:34] <spknspell> get a box?
[17:34] <maxftball> nope
[17:35] <spknspell> can you at least input the higher chans?
[17:35] <maxftball> yea
[17:35] <maxftball> i get static
[17:35] <spknspell> weird
[17:35] <maxftball> i tried everything in the menu
[17:35] <spknspell> upgrade your cable pkg
[17:36] <maxftball> to get a box?
[17:36] <phisher1> have you ever been able to get those channels?
[17:36] <maxftball> i dont know it wasnt originaly my tv. Get it for free
[17:36] <maxftball> got^
[17:36] <phisher1> Do any of your other televisions get those channels?
[17:36] <DrgdHmstr> maxftball: i had the same problem except with an old Mitsubishi rear-proj
[17:37] <maxftball> yea
[17:37] <maxftball> phisher yea
[17:37] <DrgdHmstr> worth it :D
[17:37] <spknspell> heh
[17:37] <maxftball> lol
[17:37] <maxftball> what was that link to?
[17:37] <phisher1> some stupid music video
[17:37] <phisher1> completely pointless
[17:38] <spknspell> FATALITY
[17:38] <phisher1> well i dunno
[17:38] <phisher1> good luck
[17:38] <phisher1> headache now
[17:38] <maxftball> thanks anyway
[17:54] * zzaps is now known as zzap
[18:00] <spknspell> anyone dualboot vista?
[18:02] <spknspell> ping timeout results from software abort i think?
[18:03] <spknspell> or theyre fraggin away on CS
[18:03] <UltMitSin> Hi people how u doing
[18:03] <spknspell> ask and you shall recieve
[18:21] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[18:22] <LOLz> JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE KEVIN FEDERLINE JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE KEVIN FEDERLINE JUST
[18:22] <LOLz> JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE KEVIN FEDERLINE JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE KEVIN FEDERLINE JUST
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[18:22] <AnTH> damn it
[18:23] <AntHr4XOs> hrmm
[18:24] <rhelic> com'om, you can ban him better than that
[18:24] <AntHr4XOs> lol
[18:24] <rhelic> btw, the lit pixel on my screen is gone
[18:24] <AntHr4XOs> It's more fun to ban-harrass them
[18:24] <AntHr4XOs> Whoa!
[18:24] <AntHr4XOs> stuck pixi
[18:24] <rhelic> yes, it was
[18:25] <rhelic> I didn't know they could get "stuck"
[18:25] <P5YCH0> wats up
[18:25] <AntHr4XOs> God thats wtf I'm not getting an LCD... w/ my luck = 4 yellows and 1 whit
[18:25] <rhelic> although having a lit pixel on a 100dpi isn't that bad, because they're so s
[18:25] <P5YCH0> sup wats going on with your monitor
[18:25] <rhelic> You'd have to know where it was, to see it
[18:25] <P5YCH0> i have 30 inch dell
[18:25] <P5YCH0> and i have 1 stuck pixel its insley hrd to sees
[18:26] <P5YCH0> and actully just got rma yesterday for it
[18:26] <rhelic> bought this 20" Samsung 3 weeks ago, and earlier today I noticed one of the
[18:26] <rhelic> not bright, just faint
[18:26] <P5YCH0> when it comes to stuck pixels it matters on quality as well
[18:26] <P5YCH0> shitty monitors will defintly get stuck pixels
[18:26] <AntHr4XOs> I'm got SUPER sensitive eyes.... I see the aperature-grill lines
[18:26] <rhelic> so basically is was a stuck sub pixel, which technically is like 300dpi in w
[18:26] <P5YCH0> try runing multi colors should revert ther pixel
[18:26] <AntHr4XOs> and they are TINY
[18:26] <P5YCH0> so do i
[18:26] <P5YCH0> i use to own 3 high end crts
[18:26] <rhelic> AntHr4XOs: on crappy monitors, so can I, but at 100dpi, it's very good
[18:26] <P5YCH0> before going to high end lcd
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> But I Love Ap-grill it's so nice
[18:27] <P5YCH0> and i tell you the 4 megapixel resoultion its very hard to see in motion
[18:27] <P5YCH0> if u got a GIANT blot of stuck pixels then yea
[18:27] <P5YCH0> you will notice it
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> uuck
[18:27] <P5YCH0> aoerture grill sucks for the wires
[18:27] <rhelic> the grill dissapears on this screen at 12" away, but I used this crappy 17"
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> I've got bad hardware luck
[18:27] <P5YCH0> but it was good for its time
[18:27] <P5YCH0> >=| ewll then never upgrade
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> I'm on an old viewsonic
[18:27] <P5YCH0> what can be said
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> Drafting monitor
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> I love this thing
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> It's amazingly clear
[18:27] <P5YCH0> i use to have the diamondtron 2070sb
[18:27] <rhelic> I use to love tho Sony trinitron monitors, I would slap the sides sometimes
[18:27] <AntHr4XOs> mmmm
[18:27] <P5YCH0> gf500 i believe
[18:28] <P5YCH0> and the widescreen
[18:28] <AntHr4XOs> Diama
[18:28] <P5YCH0> there the highest models period
[18:28] <rhelic> AntHr4XOs: home or work?
[18:28] <AntHr4XOs> home
[18:28] <P5YCH0> sold em all and i went to a 30 inch lcd it owned
[18:28] <AntHr4XOs> Work I use LCD
[18:28] <rhelic> a good LCD is worth the money
[18:28] <P5YCH0> exatly
[18:28] <rhelic> don't go buy the $199 24"
[18:28] <P5YCH0> i got no regrets going fomr high end crt to 1
[18:28] <AntHr4XOs> 1 iMac 24" and 1 Dell C2D
[18:28] <P5YCH0> i did notice that the color was a slightly not on par
[18:28] <P5YCH0> but i believe the new HC models with higher color gamut should equvalite it
[18:28] <AntHr4XOs> The Imacs are nice but the damn glare
[18:29] <AntHr4XOs> lol
[18:29] <P5YCH0> so u got no excuse get a LCD
[18:29] <P5YCH0> >=p
[18:29] <P5YCH0> and if u get stuck pixel dell ships the lcd beforehand
[18:29] <AntHr4XOs> LCDs just have too many potential flaws for me atm
[18:29] <AntHr4XOs> and the price
[18:29] <P5YCH0> well good technology costs money
[18:29] <rhelic> my biggest beef is the horrible return policies LCDs have, Samsung makes awe
[18:29] <P5YCH0> what can be said
[18:29] <P5YCH0> nah belive me its not true
[18:29] <AntHr4XOs> I can just order Dell parts through work and let work deal with it if I h
[18:29] <P5YCH0> you have to lie thats it
[18:30] <P5YCH0> dell ships the lcds beforehand
[18:30] <AntHr4XOs> rhelic= exactly
[18:30] <rhelic> P5YCH0: yea, I figure, by the time they get it back, it doesn't matter
[18:30] <rhelic> it costs more to ship it than it's worth it for them to try to get it back
[18:30] <P5YCH0> so when i called them up i told em i had some stuck pixels and they said the
[18:30] <AntHr4XOs> 14!!!?!
[18:30] <P5YCH0> so they didnt verify nothing
[18:30] <P5YCH0> not really
[18:30] <P5YCH0> like hmm ground shipping is
[18:30] <P5YCH0> 40 bucks id say
[18:30] <rhelic> AntHr4XOs: I don't recall the exact number, but it's really high
[18:30] <P5YCH0> but hey thats the price u pay for a new monitor
[18:31] <AntHr4XOs> I always have to send back dead dell hardware once they ship new ones...
[18:31] <rhelic> I read one story where a guy had a dead line, and they refused to ship him a
[18:31] <P5YCH0> for me 40 bucks lower models offcourse less
[18:31] <AntHr4XOs> order at 8am... *knock knock* on the door 2pm next day
[18:31] <P5YCH0> dead line what u mean
[18:31] <P5YCH0> u mean to send it in
[18:31] <rhelic> Dell's business grade shipping is great
[18:31] <AntHr4XOs> line of pixies
[18:31] <P5YCH0> i see thats just retarrded
[18:31] <rhelic> P5YCH0: not me, this is my first home LCD
[18:31] <AntHr4XOs> I CANNOT stand waiting for shipping
[18:31] <P5YCH0> what lcd u bought?
[18:31] <rhelic> Samsung 20" 204B
[18:31] <P5YCH0> yea me to
[18:31] <P5YCH0> and next day costs arm and leg
[18:32] <P5YCH0> >=| just need more cash thats it
[18:32] <rhelic> 1600x1200, it pivots/rotates, which is how I use it 24/7
[18:32] <AntHr4XOs> Wow this lady I supported at work is on TV
[18:32] <P5YCH0> lcd?
[18:32] <rhelic> I can view almost any webpage, without scrolling
[18:32] <P5YCH0> what brand
[18:32] <AntHr4XOs> She's a leading political writer and figure
[18:32] <P5YCH0> what kind of contrast ratio
[18:32] <rhelic> I just told you, are you blind?
[18:32] <P5YCH0> and pixel size
[18:32] <rhelic> google the model yourself
[18:32] <P5YCH0> i didnt see or wasnt payin attentio
[18:32] <P5YCH0> o yea
[18:32] <P5YCH0> >=p
[18:32] <P5YCH0> i see how much
[18:32] <MrSock> i have a very important question:
[18:32] <rhelic> it's an awesome monitor, even if it is almost 2yrs old
[18:33] <MrSock> should i play half-life 1 before i play half-life 2?
[18:33] <P5YCH0> no im not blind
[18:33] <P5YCH0> it have 30 inch monitor
[18:33] <P5YCH0> so much to look at
[18:33] <P5YCH0> ~_^
[18:33] <rhelic> MrSock: eh, it won't really matter
[18:33] <MrSock> no?
[18:33] <MrSock> u sure?
[18:33] <AntHr4XOs> I MIGHT get an LCD... but I think I can wait out SED
[18:33] <rhelic> MrSock: HL1 is 10yrs old, it looks horrible
[18:33] <P5YCH0> yeai m sure
[18:33] <P5YCH0> your smaller then a point of pencil
[18:33] <P5YCH0> at 2560 x 1600
[18:33] <MrSock> can anyone back him up?
[18:33] <P5YCH0> half life 1?
[18:33] <rhelic> AntHr4XOs: I wouldn't wait for SED/OLED/etc, way too long before they mature
[18:33] <MrSock> aye
[18:33] <P5YCH0> yea old ass game i wasnt really into it
[18:33] <AntHr4XOs> bah pencil point is HUGE Vs my .03mm drafting pencil
[18:33] <MrSock> k thx
[18:34] <P5YCH0> when it came out it had good graphics for its time
[18:34] <rhelic> P5YCH0: since I rotate, I see 1200x1600
[18:34] <P5YCH0> huh?
[18:34] <P5YCH0> i see
[18:34] <AntHr4XOs> SED > CRT > LCD
[18:34] <rhelic> http://perpetualhypemachine.com/pix/Consalos.gif
[18:34] <rhelic> although that's not my whole desktop, let me take a pic
[18:36] <Gene> Has anyone seen 2 girls 1 cup? Is it dirty?
[18:36] <P5YCH0> stupid ass dialup
[18:36] <P5YCH0> man i got to wait till tommorw for my 50mbit restored
[18:36] <P5YCH0> >:\
[18:37] <numbmind> Question: hey guys whenever i opend a bunch of new IE windows after awhile
[18:38] <P5YCH0> hmm