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Session Start: Sat Feb 02 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:03] <null_> whats that new fat burner called that make you poop yourself they sell at wal
[00:03] <nzi> ?
[00:04] <null_> i need answers not ? marks
[00:04] <maherarar> olestra?
[00:06] <perfector> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMj3PJDxuo
[00:06] <perfector> lol that is crazy
[00:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:09] <salami> alli
[00:09] <null_> thats it
[00:10] <salami> youre welcome
[00:26] <Jumpie> sup folks
[01:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:15] * unitrader is now known as Marlboro
[01:16] <Torob> i got some schemes installed on mirc but i want to change the "own text" so i
[01:49] <Jumpie> hey guys..whats a good site for sending large files? like you sendit
[01:49] <Jumpie> but for like larger files
[01:50] <floatsaka> bigfile.us
[01:58] * zzaps is now known as zzap
[02:01] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[02:04] <Scoobs8> <Jumpie> hey guys..whats a good site for sending large files? like yo
[02:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:20] * SteveLeaf is now known as ObiTrice
[02:21] <Jumpie> thanks scoobs
[02:21] <Scoobs8> np
[02:22] <Jumpie> requires rediuclous signup?
[02:23] <Jumpie> man the boredom
[02:23] <tmxone> what is trunking vlans mean?
[02:23] <tmxone> err does
[02:25] <Scoobs8> this link explains vlan trunking --> http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/
[02:26] <Scoobs8> Jumpie: nah no signup
[02:26] <Scoobs8> you can signup, but u don't have to
[02:27] <Scoobs8> bbl
[02:27] <Jumpie> trunk means all vlan traffic goes out a port to elsewhere
[02:27] <Jumpie> normally a router
[02:28] <Jumpie> you also wanna look up vtp vlan trunking protocol
[02:28] <Jumpie> allows you to setup vlans on one server/location and distribute that through
[02:28] <tmxone> ah
[02:29] <tmxone> so trunking basically connects vlans so they can talk to each other
[02:29] <Jumpie> not quite
[02:29] <tmxone> easy
[02:29] <tmxone> no?
[02:29] <Jumpie> vlans are their own broadcast domain
[02:29] <Jumpie> a trunk is multiple vlan traffic going somewhere like a router
[02:30] <Jumpie> so like vlan 1-10 on several switches going to outbound router
[02:30] <Joops> evad u around
[02:30] <Jumpie> otherwise only one vlan would have its traffic passed
[02:30] <Jumpie> you have all sorts of policies, pruning, etc
[02:30] <Jumpie> there is a basic understanding but it can defiantely get complicated on larr
[02:31] <tmxone> so i have this switch that support vlans
[02:31] <tmxone> i want 2 different ports to have their own vlans
[02:31] <tmxone> so my printer can be on 1 vlan and the other computers on another vlan!
[02:33] <Joops> Jumpie does Evad come around here much anymore?
[02:35] <Jumpie> joops pertty recently
[02:35] <Jumpie> early this week lsat time i saw him i think
[02:36] <Jumpie> if you want but why tmxone
[02:36] <tmxone> learning
[02:36] <tmxone> i want to experiment and understand
[02:36] <Jumpie> sure you could do that
[02:36] <Jumpie> hmm anyone know how much hp a 1995 bmw 525 is has
[02:38] <Joops> ahh
[02:52] <Joops> I'm moving to las vegas in under three weeks and want to speak to Evad
[02:52] <Joops> should anyone catch him if you could have him message me I'd appreciate it
[03:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:27] <davies> hey
[03:28] <davies> u guys played FF7?
[03:36] <Moha> Im having some trouble with my ps3 and the wireless connection. Can anyone be
[03:48] <sKiTTZz> good mornin
[03:48] <sKiTTZz> i need to know why my hardrive is acting wierd
[03:48] <BiGSQUiD> bad sectprs
[03:48] <BiGSQUiD> bad sectors
[03:48] <sKiTTZz> it has 2 partions and now and again when i either move my pc or shut it dow
[03:49] <sKiTTZz> but i just realized it was trying to load the other partion
[03:49] <sKiTTZz> and now my original partion isnt viewable
[03:49] <sKiTTZz> hey bigsquid...suck it!!
[03:49] <sKiTTZz> after doing a fresh install
[03:50] <sKiTTZz> what are the commands to see my other partion?
[03:56] * hemp is now known as hemp_
[03:59] <Imago> At a school/workplace, the server that connects all computers to the internet
[04:00] <Hastor> ummm not always
[04:00] <BiGSQUiD> no its not
[04:00] <Hastor> dns server just converts urls to ip adresses and vice versa
[04:01] <Hastor> can be any server set up for it along the line
[04:01] <BiGSQUiD> it doesnt route traffic
[04:01] <Hastor> no
[04:01] <BiGSQUiD> imago: the answer to your homework question is probably gateway/router
[04:01] <Hastor> but i figured it could do dns as well as that in some cases
[04:01] <Hastor> haha
[04:01] <Hastor> callin him out
[04:01] <Imago> Ahh. So what would happen if the local dns server goes down, and the server c
[04:02] <BiGSQUiD> yes
[04:02] <Hastor> homework for sure
[04:02] <Hastor> i think i had this test 3 years ago
[04:02] <Imago> Would they have to enter ip adresses to navigate the net?
[04:02] <BiGSQUiD> lol
[04:02] <BiGSQUiD> do your own hw
[04:02] <Hastor> read your textbook/disc/whatever they give you kids these days
[04:04] <Hastor> holographic information cubes and whatnot
[04:05] <r0dr1g0> why don't you use services?
[04:05] <Hastor> anyone got the link handy? ill get it
[04:05] <Hastor> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/networks/noserv.html
[04:05] <Hastor> that should explain it
[04:05] <r0dr1g0> thank
[04:05] <r0dr1g0> s
[04:06] <Hastor> its really hidden, you gotta google for Why Efnet has no services - and its
[04:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:07] <r0dr1g0> pardon my french... but you're a asshole
[04:07] <r0dr1g0> asshole
[04:07] <r0dr1g0> :)
[04:09] <Hastor> must be french, english would be AN asshole, not "a"
[04:09] <r0dr1g0> ¬¬
[04:13] <nukleuz> lol
[04:24] <Moha> Im having trouble with my wireless network. I manage to connect my laptop with
[04:24] <Moha> WAP personal TKIP
[04:25] <Moha> wpa*
[04:28] <m0ha> Anyone?
[04:55] <bune_gLay> help me
[04:55] <bune_gLay> help me
[05:04] * JuneBug is now known as kingpimp
[05:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:57] <compdoc> everytime I log onto irc, I start getting twinge attacks. doesnt affect my
[05:58] <bizinichi> my touchpad is dying
[05:58] <bizinichi> i cant click anything anymore
[06:00] <MornStar> buy a new one
[06:00] <bizinichi> a touchpad?
[06:00] <bizinichi> it doesnt look removable
[06:03] <MornStar> o.O oh laptop
[06:03] <MornStar> haha.
[06:06] <hackzill> hello, if there is a file that is locked
[06:06] <hackzill> how do you unlock it?
[06:06] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[06:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[06:08] <blue^moon> a password comes to mind
[06:08] <bizinichi> i made the mistake of registering to vote, now i get all this spam from t
[06:08] <compdoc> email?
[06:09] <blue^moon> I don't know if you can, you can try the do not mail list thingy
[06:09] <bizinichi> and i dont think they have a central DOT NOT MAIL list like private compa
[06:10] <blue^moon> I think they do, but I think its a card you fill out at the post office,
[06:10] <bizinichi> im already on the do not mail list
[06:10] <blue^moon> I did it, it doesn't help
[06:10] <bizinichi> ... lame
[06:10] <bizinichi> can i register to vote again and give them a wrong address, will that fix
[06:11] <bizinichi> do they *update* the same record or just make a new one
[06:15] <jag4life> hi I have a bit of a problem can anyone help
[06:15] <MornStar> not until you tell us the problem o.O
[06:17] <jag4life> my problem is I used the program to see if it would speed up my pc but it
[06:17] <jag4life> and it is doing mu head in
[06:17] <MornStar> run > msconfid > un tick it from startup
[06:17] <MornStar> then restart
[06:17] <MornStar> err
[06:17] <MornStar> msconfig*
[06:18] <compdoc> also, look in the startup folder
[06:20] * _nsfw is now known as nsfw
[06:23] <jag4life> nah it is not in there
[06:23] <compdoc> not in msconfig?
[06:23] <jag4life> keeps saying it is missing a .msi file
[06:23] <compdoc> the startup tab
[06:24] <compdoc> thats the installer file
[06:24] <jag4life> yeh
[06:28] <compdoc> so you cant unistall it?
[06:28] <compdoc> you do use add/remove programs to remove stuff, I hope
[06:34] <htg> ey
[06:35] <htg> i'm lookin for the answers for the CCNA Discovery 4.0 exams..could somebody hel
[06:36] <compdoc> you taking the test now?
[06:36] <htg> yes soon
[06:37] <meb> any one know of any good freeware software to fine WAN Networks, and something
[06:38] <compdoc> htg, google is your best bet
[06:38] <compdoc> just dont copy and paste the answers
[06:38] <htg> i tried google and emule
[06:38] <htg> can you help to search them?
[06:39] <meb> sweet thnx :)
[06:39] <activator> hey eveyrone
[06:39] <activator> whats a good file sharing site where i can upload someting
[06:39] <activator> and for someone to download
[06:39] <activator> a site where i dont have to make an account
[06:44] * _Ghostwol is now known as Ghostwolf
[06:48] <MornStar> activator, do you want 1 person to download it or lots of people?
[06:59] <Imago> How do I "elevate" cmd?
[07:00] <Imago> Nevermind.
[07:03] <Oggy> I need to recover a file
[07:03] <Oggy> anyone recommend a good recovery program
[07:04] <dhcpee> anyone work with illustrator? when exporting my project to jpg/png, for some
[07:04] <activator> Mornstar
[07:04] <activator> lots of people
[07:04] <MornStar> people you know or don't know?
[07:05] <activator> people i know
[07:05] <sparr_> dhcpee: what are you measuring the "size of the image" with?
[07:05] <MornStar> upload it to yousendit.com and put in their emails.. and give them the lin
[07:05] <activator> what about people i dont know
[07:05] <dhcpee> sparr, hm
[07:06] <sparr_> dhcpee: if the image is 3000x2000 pixels, and its 1000dpi, then its 3"x2"
[07:06] <dhcpee> i think i found the probelm :[ artboard is being measured by pt
[07:06] <dhcpee> not pixels
[07:06] <sdijlkkj> help
[07:06] <MornStar> then you'd have to register on most public torrent sites, activator.. whic
[07:06] <dhcpee> sparr, i se it for 300dpi.. the artboard was 300pt by 150pt
[07:07] <dhcpee> just changed it to px but didnt see any adjustments in illutrator to the siz
[07:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:07] <dhcpee> set*
[07:07] <dhcpee> when exporting it was like 1250 x 521
[07:07] * JailBlack is now known as TraMcLady
[07:08] <Oggy> anyone recommend a good recovery program
[07:08] <TraMcLady> yes
[07:08] <Oggy> what
[07:08] <Oggy> is a good program there
[07:08] <TraMcLady> what are you trying to recover
[07:08] <deww> http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
[07:08] <dhcpee> sparr, guess that isnt the problem.. exported its still showing up at like 1
[07:09] <deww> as long as you don't install it on th same drive you are trying to recover fro
[07:09] <TraMcLady> what are you trying to recover
[07:10] <TraMcLady> Oggy: do you use your eyes often?
[07:10] <Oggy> yes I do
[07:10] <TraMcLady> what are you trying to recover
[07:11] <Oggy> video file
[07:11] <Oggy> i deleted
[07:11] <TraMcLady> checked recycle bin?
[07:11] <Oggy> yes
[07:11] <TraMcLady> tried to do a system restore?
[07:11] <Oggy> not yet
[07:12] <TraMcLady> y not, you can restore from a previous time period..how long ago was it d
[07:12] <dhcpee> m/sg sparr here?
[07:12] <dhcpee> gay
[07:12] <dhcpee> fucking client
[07:13] <deww> system restore does not affect files
[07:13] <dhcpee> deww, you use illustrator?
[07:13] <deww> nope
[07:13] <dhcpee> k
[07:14] <compdoc> illustrator is too hard
[07:15] <dhcpee> heh
[07:16] * Mayonais is now known as Mayonaise
[07:46] <Caricatur> one thing that has always bothered me is
[07:46] <Caricatur> that howard deans campain was derailed because of the scream....
[07:46] <Caricatur> to me, it seemed so... stupid
[07:47] <compdoc> yeah, I liked him
[07:47] <Caricatur> that enthusiasm and a little passion makes one unfit to lead
[07:47] <compdoc> I dont think that would happen again
[07:53] <TraMcLady> hey guys
[07:53] <TraMcLady> i went to fix a friends blood relative's PC
[07:53] <TraMcLady> and I couldn't boot off my USB any ideas why?
[07:55] <deww> not all bios supported them or supported them properly
[07:55] <TraMcLady> bah humbug
[07:55] <TraMcLady> grin
[07:56] <TraMcLady> hey so i have to boot off cd to get anything done?
[07:56] * Metshrine is now known as Metshrin3
[07:56] <TraMcLady> the PC will boot sometimes to windows then shutdown into power saving mod
[07:56] <deww> or floppy
[07:56] * Metshrin3 is now known as Metshrine
[07:56] <TraMcLady> and other times it goes straight into power saving mode as soon as POST i
[07:56] <TraMcLady> i dont think they have a floppy
[07:56] <Extreme33> ok let me try n exsplain this situation i have , my power supply in my co
[07:56] <Extreme33> if i plugin the ethermax ps to a computer the computer starts up without
[07:56] <TraMcLady> because when I went into BIOS, that option was grayed out
[07:57] <TraMcLady> any ideas what it could be?
[07:57] <TraMcLady> bad harddrive, bad memory card or virus ?
[07:58] <deww> TraMcLady: if it can boot off usb or cd, see if it goes into power saving mode
[07:58] <deww> and if it does, probably a bad board
[08:00] <TraMcLady> but it wont let me boot off usb
[08:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:11] <Jarle> do surround packs usually have s/pdif contacts?
[08:17] <TraMcLady> ok deww
[08:26] <modogo> morning
[08:29] <modogo> i'm looking at the processes in running in my task manager. wmiprvse caught
[08:32] <cyrax83> hey guys quick question, i'm putting in some material on my usb drive and w
[08:33] <modogo> good uestion
[08:33] <IamKing> cyrax83: using Truecrypt might be the best solution
[08:34] <IamKing> you can set up a hidden virtual HD that stores the contents in one of the s
[08:34] <cyrax83> do i need to install truecrypt on the client machine to access my data ?
[08:34] <cyrax83> once i've encrypted it
[08:34] <IamKing> yes
[08:35] <cyrax83> hmm not really an option since i'll be at client sites
[08:35] <cyrax83> i'm surprised windows doesn't have this feature built in
[08:35] <IamKing> you cannot encrypt something without software available on the other end
[08:35] <cyrax83> bummer
[08:36] <IamKing> it is no different than using WinZip to encrypt with AES-256...you would ne
[08:37] <TraMcLady> hmm didnt realize winzip ccould do this
[08:37] <rhelic> cyrax83: I use an older/abondoned app called CrypText
[08:37] <rhelic> DO NOT USE ZIP
[08:37] <IamKing> and I am not so sure I would trust any encryption algorithm that Microsoft
[08:37] <rhelic> I can crack any password protected zip you have
[08:37] <cyrax83> IamKing : yeah zip could work but it's a pain in the ass having to decrypt
[08:39] <modogo> cryax83
[08:39] <rhelic> Here's proof how inferior ZIP password protection is http://thespoke.net/bl
[08:40] <rhelic> keep in mind that with today's computer, they can do it in almost 1/4th the
[08:40] <TraMcLady> i orifess to use Winzip for all my encrypting needs
[08:40] <rhelic> TraMcLady: well don't let me get ahold of your files
[08:41] <rhelic> I haven't bothered to look at new solutions, but I use CrypText because it's
[08:41] <rhelic> and you enter the password
[08:41] <rhelic> nothing runs in memory, it's just a feature in your right click
[08:42] <rhelic> it doesn't load up annoyware or managers or whatnot
[08:42] <bizinichi> rhelic link me?
[08:42] <IamKing> rhelic: dude, that article was from back in 2005...which WinZip at that ti
[08:42] <IamKing> rhelic: nice red herring
[08:42] <userme> ow can i check the "windows exeperience index" ? in vista
[08:43] <rhelic> IamKing: I know, I wrote it
[08:43] <rhelic> IamKing: well I don't even use WinZip, so I don't know if they've changed/im
[08:44] <IamKing> rhelic: then why don't you try cracking a .zip file made from a version of
[08:44] <rhelic> IamKing: of course the catch is then, your file is specific to a newer stand
[08:45] <rhelic> bizinichi: http://www.sharewareplaza.com/Cryptext-download_4160.html
[08:45] <IamKing> rhelic: I clearly originally stated about using WinZip to encrypt in AES-2
[08:45] <bizinichi> grrrreat
[08:46] <rhelic> IamKing: actually, it looks like that Winzip did have AES
[08:46] <IamKing> of course it does...I said that from the beginning
[08:46] <rhelic> "The AE-1 encryption specification was introduced in WinZip 9.0 Beta 1, rele
[08:46] <IamKing> it had that for the past 2 major versions (10 and 11)
[08:47] <rhelic> I was using the latest WinZip when I wrote that article
[08:47] <rhelic> don't contridict yourself
[08:48] <IamKing> I haven't contradicted myself
[08:48] <rhelic> at most, I might have used a version that did AE-1 and now they have AE-2
[08:48] <rhelic> <IamKing> rhelic: dude, that article was from back in 2005...which Wi
[08:48] <rhelic> <rhelic> IamKing: actually, it looks like that Winzip did have AES
[08:48] <rhelic> <IamKing> of course it does...I said that from the beginning
[08:49] <rhelic> seriously?
[08:49] <IamKing> I said specifically versions 10 and 11
[08:49] <rhelic> ehh, I don't really care either way
[08:49] <rhelic> the point is, the ZIP standard is flawed
[08:49] <colG> help!
[08:49] <rhelic> will gunzip even read AES encrypted .ZIPs?
[08:49] <colG> how do I use .jar files?
[08:49] <colG> what program do I need to unpack them
[08:50] <rhelic> Java
[08:50] <colG> Java is not a program, is it?
[08:50] <rhelic> iirc KAR is a Java program, not an encryption
[08:50] <rhelic> KAR=KAR
[08:50] <rhelic> err JAR
[08:50] <rhelic> oh wait, it's an ARJ standard too
[08:51] <rhelic> colG: http://filext.com/file-extension/JAR
[08:51] <colG> ty
[08:53] <colG> how did you go about finding that rhelic?
[08:54] <rhelic> "file extension jar"
[08:54] <rhelic> actually I've known about that site for years
[08:54] <rhelic> he's a coder I use to talk to a lot years ago
[08:54] <rhelic> (the guy who made the site)
[08:55] <colG> vg
[08:56] <colG> if I have Executable Jar Files whats the best program to open those in
[08:56] <colG> "ImpViewer" ?
[08:56] <rhelic> read the page
[08:57] <modogo> i just googled some word i saw as a tag on a image site.
[08:57] <Sculptor_> hi!
[08:57] <modogo> it turns out it was something to do with M**lims
[08:57] <colG> k. one more question.. can I view these Executable Jar "imp" files within Inte
[08:57] <modogo> does that mean the FBI is coming after me?
[08:57] <modogo> :(
[08:58] <rhelic> modogo: yes, got any more bad troll jokes?
[08:58] <shaft0> anyone know of a php script that will display the absolute path (ie /var/www
[08:58] <rhelic> colG: READ THE PAGE, it tells you what programs use the file
[08:59] <modogo> i wish i was joking
[08:59] <modogo> :(
[09:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[09:09] <modogo> so it turns out alot of these RBL bans are some poor sap using a proxy that
[09:10] <modogo> or it could be the same person that did the trolling/abuse
[09:10] <modogo> no way to know really so the whole ip or subnet gets klined
[09:10] <modogo> ...i think
[09:11] <rhelic> pretty much an yproxy is going to get booted
[09:11] <rhelic> it only takes 1 abuser
[09:11] <modogo> might as well pay the 3 bucks a month for a cheap shell and run a bnc
[09:12] * modogo is AFK, food —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[09:13] <rhelic> exactly
[09:26] * activator is now known as Activator
[09:36] <reiser> hi, how i can register nick here /
[09:36] <reiser> /ns doesnt works
[09:36] <RBL> reg: You cannot register nicknames or channels on EFNet. For an explanation why
[09:37] <reiser> thx
[09:49] * _slimer is now known as slimer
[09:51] <Extreme33> my power supply in my comp when i turn on the ps (ethermax) my power ligh
[09:51] <Extreme33> tested every lead off my power supply , red wires give me 5 v and all yel
[09:56] <Extreme33> any ideas on that one ?
[10:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[10:14] <love360> how i can connect my 360 to windows media center
[10:14] * jackal^ is now known as jackal
[10:25] * jackal^ is now known as jackal
[10:32] <wilx_> Hi.
[10:33] <wilx_> Dunno if this is the right channel...
[10:33] <wilx_> Could somebody change the dark gray font on black background on the EFNet.org
[10:33] <wilx_> It is totally unreadable.
[10:39] <modogo> hey
[10:39] <Osc> I thought you could change the theme
[10:39] <modogo> anyone know a image host besides imageshack. the file i want to upload is la
[10:39] <MornStar> um, go to an opticians will`
[10:39] <modogo> ?
[10:39] <MornStar> wilx_
[10:39] <MornStar> i can see it perfectly
[10:39] <MornStar> modogo: bayimg.org
[10:39] <Osc> modogo: lots, just google 'image hosting'
[10:40] <modogo> ... um yeah
[10:40] <modogo> heh
[10:40] <third|eye> whats the best way to treat disrepectfull people who you thought where yo
[10:41] <xamiel> kill them
[10:41] <Osc> third|eye: ignore them
[10:41] <third|eye> yeah
[10:41] <third|eye> set one of them straight today :\
[10:42] <modogo> hey. anyone know who this is?
[10:42] <modogo> http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testyg2.jpg
[10:42] <modogo> i think she is an actress
[10:42] <modogo> and that looks like some type of awards ceremony
[10:42] <Osc> scarlot johanson
[10:43] <rhelic> run of the mill blonde, blah
[10:43] <third|eye> she doesnt look famous to me
[10:43] <third|eye> just a random member of the public
[10:43] <rhelic> it's something better to look at, TechSpot run some benchmarks on the new 45
[10:43] <rhelic> third|eye: celebrity cannot be determined in 200 pixels!
[10:44] <third|eye> her dress looks cheap too lol
[10:44] <third|eye> aha!
[10:46] * KiKi_ is now known as psychav
[10:46] <third|eye> [Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600)] CPU: [2-AMD , 2210
[10:46] <third|eye> im real happy with this :)
[10:46] <psychav> join #karlsruhe
[10:46] <psychav> join karlsruhe
[10:46] <third|eye> ^chavs suck
[10:47] <modogo> third|eye
[10:47] <modogo> where are you from?
[10:47] <third|eye> scotland
[10:47] <third|eye> you?
[10:47] <modogo> us
[10:47] <modogo> US
[10:47] <third|eye> ah
[10:47] <psychav> scotland doesnt have chavs anyway
[10:47] <psychav> ...they have neds
[10:48] <modogo> neds?
[10:48] <third|eye> it does english ones that come up for the weekend!
[10:48] <third|eye> yeah modogo
[10:49] <third|eye> anyone here do yoga?
[10:49] <rhelic> I've done it, but I don't actively do it
[10:50] <third|eye> you find it hard to start?
[10:50] <third|eye> and how long can it take to get good at?
[10:51] <third|eye> i find the balance exercises tough
[10:52] <rhelic> oh yes, Yoga is very hard when you first start out
[10:53] <rhelic> just for the same reason if you started bench pressing, you can't just lift
[10:53] <rhelic> anybody who does Yoga, the balance and positions seem easy to them, well bec
[10:53] <third|eye> yeah
[10:58] <iNToIT> thigh
[10:58] <iNToIT> ltns
[11:01] <third|eye> is it wise to exercise with a slight cold?
[11:02] <rhelic> I don't know, but when I have a cold, I don't do the gym
[11:03] <third|eye> yeah
[11:03] <third|eye> guess i will give my body a rest
[11:03] <rhelic> public opinion says no http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS2
[11:03] <rhelic> my reasoning was the same, conserve your energy so your body can battle the
[11:04] <Caricatur> nietzsche saids that...
[11:04] <Caricatur> to tell the truth, you have to be willing to be alienated.
[11:04] <Caricatur> made me think of the cadre of talk radio
[11:04] <Caricatur> they go to the same parties.. and they're buddies and thye hang out...
[11:04] <rhelic> of course when you execise regularly, you'll get less colds
[11:04] <Caricatur> it's in their interest to ... well.... pretend sometimes
[11:05] <ducch> any ircop?
[11:05] * Disconnected
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[11:05] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
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[11:05] <Caricatur> well..
[11:05] <Caricatur> :- )
[11:06] <ducch> QUXYOJD RDLMZ ADDPR FKZCI FZUZ
[11:06] <ducch> packet bots hosted on efnet
[11:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[11:07] <reznark> Does anyone know of a mobile device that has no voice, but is only used to
[11:07] <Ven]n> cheers
[11:07] <Ven]n> i was just wondering why im connecting with IP instead of host?
[11:07] <third|eye> really rhelic
[11:07] <third|eye> interesting
[11:07] <kattykatt> how do i register my nick?
[11:07] <third|eye> i exercise every day
[11:07] <RBL> services: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your
[11:07] <Zeddyy> Anyone here who is familiar with allied telesys switches?
[11:08] <third|eye> no reg on efnet
[11:08] <rhelic> third|eye: well give yourself at least 1 day off a week
[11:08] <third|eye> ah
[11:08] <third|eye> kk
[11:08] <rhelic> third|eye: especially if you are doing weight lifting
[11:08] <third|eye> usually 1 hour
[11:08] <third|eye> yoga
[11:08] <third|eye> a day hehe
[11:08] <rhelic> yea, I use to do 1hr, 5days a week
[11:08] <Zeddyy> is there a tech help channel on efnet?
[11:08] <rhelic> Zeddyy: JUST ASK
[11:08] <Zeddyy> OK!
[11:08] <third|eye> lol
[11:08] <rhelic> (read the topic{
[11:08] <Zeddyy> http://www.kokon-sport.com/switch.jpg
[11:09] <Zeddyy> i want to do this
[11:09] <Zeddyy> but my switches are all connected with fiber cables in between
[11:09] <third|eye> mmmmm i dont know about electronics
[11:09] <Zeddyy> and i am not able to make the fiber ports "tagged"
[11:09] <Zeddyy> or as someone would call them, the uplink ports
[11:09] <Zeddyy> so i am only able to have one vlan, when i infact want two
[11:11] <reznark> no one knows of a mobile device that is only for mobile text?
[11:11] <rhelic> Zeddyy: not that many network junkies here, I don't think anybody can help y
[11:11] <Zeddyy> ok
[11:11] <rhelic> reznark: I don't think anybody offers a text only service
[11:11] <Zeddyy> does anyone know where on the internet i could find network junkies? :P been
[11:11] <modogo> •Zeddyy• #networking
[11:11] <rhelic> reznark: your best best is possible a "pay as you go" phone from Walmart or
[11:12] <third|eye> pay as you go is safer
[11:12] <third|eye> i had issues with contract overcharging
[11:12] <reznark> well, I want something with a qwerty, but no voice, I dont know of a pay-as
[11:12] <rhelic> at least you only pay what you use, which would be text
[11:12] <reznark> my work requires me to text when I go on/off site, and i would rather not h
[11:12] <rhelic> reznark: T-Mobile's pay as you go service is great, no scams, minutes last 1
[11:12] <third|eye> or get a palm top
[11:13] <rhelic> after you spend $100, you get 15% extra minutes on every purchase
[11:13] <third|eye> my friend uses a kaiser its nice
[11:14] <reznark> looking it up
[11:14] <rhelic> reznark: for the most part, the "pay as you go but expires after 30 days min
[11:14] <reznark> right
[11:14] <rhelic> reznark: I recommend you go to an official store of the service, and ask the
[11:15] <rhelic> reznark: you don't want to get scammed and pay $.25 per msg or something
[11:15] <rhelic> btw, txtmsg is the worst way to communicate, it costs more than paying the m
[11:15] <rhelic> which is why cell phone companies love it, and push it
[11:15] <third|eye> didnt know that
[11:16] <rhelic> of course, txtmsg cost $.05, and minutes cost about $.10, you can say in 1 m
[11:16] <reznark> it's my timeclock, and that's how the company does it...they dont want to h
[11:16] <rhelic> do the math... $.50 vs $.10, and imho I'm being optimistic
[11:16] <rhelic> reznark: there has to be a web interface
[11:16] <reznark> all I need is a simple message say "On-Site"
[11:16] <reznark> and a timestamp
[11:16] * [600SL] is now known as Anthr4xOs
[11:16] <rhelic> reznark: or is this a traveling job, not a 'work at home' job?
[11:16] <reznark> then "Offsite" when I leave
[11:17] <reznark> traveling
[11:18] <rhelic> well if that's THEIR system, THEY need to provide you with the phone
[11:18] <rhelic> or at least refund your txt costs
[11:18] <reznark> Well, I am contracting myself to them
[11:18] <rhelic> I would absolutely send them a bill at the end of every month
[11:18] <rhelic> ahh
[11:18] <rhelic> ok then you're screwed
[11:18] <reznark> heh
[11:18] <rhelic> btw, wtf don't you have a cell phone?!
[11:18] <reznark> yes, it's not so much the bother of the phone, or the cost, its preferring
[11:19] <reznark> rhelic: imo, and experience, they are unsafe and hazardous to health, but t
[11:19] <rhelic> well I'm no a cell fan either, but I still have a payasyougo one
[11:19] <reznark> ah
[11:20] <reznark> well, I see this AT&T Ogo, which is a text only platform with a qwert, but
[11:20] <xamiel> i got a pay as you go phone. i bu a 1000 minutes and their good for a year
[11:20] <rhelic> reznark: it's been proven many times that cell phones do not give off radiat
[11:20] <rhelic> and digital phones give off even less than legacy analog phones
[11:20] <rhelic> there are a bunch of studies, so don't believe the hype
[11:21] <rhelic> xamiel: T-Mobile eh?
[11:21] <Anthr4xOs> So what's the deal with iPhone and unlocking
[11:21] <xamiel> yup :)
[11:21] <modogo> you can do it
[11:21] <modogo> ...
[11:21] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: no iPhone here
[11:21] <third|eye> you mean the ibrick
[11:21] <modogo> but you cant recieve software updates
[11:21] <modogo> and it would void your tos
[11:21] <modogo> and blah blah blah
[11:21] <third|eye> wasnt their a lawsuit about the ibrick
[11:21] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: http://www.techspot.com/review/85-intel-core-2-wolfdale-vs-conro
[11:21] <reznark> rhelic: from my experience, they 'hype' is that they DONT give off radiatio
[11:22] <Anthr4xOs> rhelic= I know a group of folsk that have them at work... I'm telling you
[11:22] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: some good benchmarks on all the new 45nm vs the AMD Phenoms too :
[11:22] <third|eye> yay amd :)
[11:22] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: they do look nice, I especially like the idea of a "webbrowser in
[11:22] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: but you're gonna pay $100/month for the service plan
[11:23] <rhelic> isn't it a 4yr contract?
[11:23] <Anthr4xOs> Nagh, I'll get the unlocking software and be rid of AT&Terror
[11:23] <rhelic> reznark: I'm sure that has more to do with how you talk on the phone, becaus
[11:24] <rhelic> you can get an iPhone /wo AT&T?
[11:24] <fartbake> hotmail is down?
[11:24] <Anthr4xOs> rhelic= Phenom is nothing but a Phenomenal PHLOP!
[11:24] <modogo> it's not software is it?
[11:24] <modogo> i'm pretty sure it
[11:24] <modogo> *it's a hardware hack
[11:24] <Anthr4xOs> Another failure... nearing 939 Vs AM2 blundering
[11:24] <rhelic> modogo: works for me
[11:25] <Anthr4xOs> AMD is now going to have to play the "low price war" strategy
[11:25] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: I like how the summary confirms "if you're gonna get dual core, o
[11:25] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: well AMD's new trick, and it is smart, is they are moving to no l
[11:25] <rhelic> it's a smart way to make their CPUs look better than a Core 2 Duo
[11:25] <third|eye> 3 :O
[11:25] <rhelic> instant 50% boost in benchmarks
[11:25] * third|eye saves up
[11:26] <Anthr4xOs> unfortunately, even the Tri cores get beat out by the say "lower end" E67
[11:26] <Anthr4xOs> All the EE chips beat out AMD's best offerings
[11:26] <prajna> is there a way I can flash my ROM on our Nikon Coolpix L6?
[11:26] <prajna> I think it got scrambled
[11:26] <Anthr4xOs> Tri cores are the equiv of, maybe a E6800
[11:27] <krisp> is savory the opposite of sweet
[11:27] <Anthr4xOs> to savor
[11:27] <reznark> sour?
[11:27] <reznark> yno bitter
[11:27] <Anthr4xOs> to linger and absorb
[11:27] <reznark> yi think would be opposite
[11:27] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: well between number of cores, is the app multithreaded, SSE4, it'
[11:27] <Anthr4xOs> No there's no bitter distinctly associated with "savory" afaik
[11:27] <third|eye> (prajna): not just connect to pc and flash from updates on the makers web
[11:28] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: not a problem for nerds like us, but the n00bs have no hope
[11:28] <Anthr4xOs> It's just a ad-verb
[11:28] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: don't worry, I'm ordering my e8400 very soon, the I billed two in
[11:28] <Anthr4xOs> Whoa...
[11:28] <rhelic> $1k each
[11:29] <Anthr4xOs> E8400... I'm going to have to read up
[11:29] <Anthr4xOs> are you insane?!
[11:29] <rhelic> huhL
[11:29] <rhelic> the e8400 is out, although it's at $30 above retail price
[11:29] <Anthr4xOs> $1K chip?!
[11:29] <rhelic> no, I meant I billed two $1k invoices
[11:29] <rhelic> I'm getting 2gs early next week
[11:29] <rhelic> I only need $350-$500 for my new rig
[11:29] <Anthr4xOs> oh lol
[11:30] <third|eye> O.o
[11:30] <rhelic> depending wether I get the 8800GT now or not
[11:30] <rhelic> my 320GB SATA arrived a few days ago
[11:30] <Anthr4xOs> $500 for a box?
[11:30] <rhelic> I only need: mobo, ram, cpu
[11:31] <rhelic> I'm gutting my old box, keeping what I can
[11:31] <third|eye> i got offered a brand new 1tb sata II for 180 pounds
[11:31] <rhelic> third|eye: not bad, I saw a similar price at Best Buy a few weeks ago
[11:31] <rhelic> cheaper though, only $300 usd
[11:31] <third|eye> yeah quite fancied it
[11:31] <reznark> y1 tb?
[11:31] <reznark> ywtf?
[11:31] <third|eye> i need that much lol
[11:31] <rhelic> I got the 320gb for a steal, only $60 (that's like what, 30 pounds?)
[11:31] <reznark> why would anyone buy any other drive?
[11:32] <rhelic> reznark: ppl said the same thing when the Fireball 1gb came out :P
[11:32] <third|eye> sata II way better i noticed 50% improvement
[11:32] <rhelic> reznark: HD movies are ~30gb, so 1tb isn't that big really
[11:32] <third|eye> same with lossless bootlegs
[11:32] <rhelic> third|eye: I think you can thank a faster drive, not SATAII, for the speed b
[11:32] <third|eye> can be upto 1 gig
[11:33] <reznark> haha I didnt buy a fireball
[11:33] <rhelic> especially if you bought the very first SATA1 drives
[11:33] <third|eye> i had a 7200 sata was double :O
[11:33] <third|eye> probs both rhelic
[11:33] <rhelic> third|eye: you maker no sense
[11:33] <third|eye> oops
[11:33] <third|eye> 7200 ide
[11:33] <third|eye> then went to sata
[11:33] <rhelic> oh yea, big diff there then :)
[11:33] <wilx_> MornStar: I can't.
[11:33] <third|eye> maybe the huge buffer helps too
[11:34] <rhelic> the new drive I got has a 16mb buffer, I think my current one is 2 or 4
[11:34] <third|eye> ah
[11:34] <rhelic> third|eye: it's multiple reasons
[11:34] <third|eye> yeah
[11:34] <Anthr4xOs> I'm not getting a 1TB+ drive until they technology advances again.
[11:34] <reznark> I was reading an article that some smart chip company figure out how to put
[11:34] <third|eye> :O
[11:34] <Anthr4xOs> Perpendicular tech hasn't shown any significant advancement Vs non parall
[11:34] <reznark> yeah
[11:34] <third|eye> thats the one for me lol
[11:34] <reznark> so why even use a HD?
[11:35] <reznark> wait for that stuff
[11:35] <rhelic> reznark: only if the thumbdrive is like 6 inches long and 2 inches wide
[11:35] <Anthr4xOs> I don't know WTF they don't make a 10000rpm LARGE HD.
[11:35] <Anthr4xOs> I know the spindles can handle it
[11:35] <rhelic> thumbdrives are crippled, speed wise, they are not useable as a HD replaceme
[11:35] <reznark> yhaha
[11:35] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: wait, what's your beef with 1tb?
[11:35] <reznark> that isnt offered in SCSI?
[11:35] <Anthr4xOs> rhelic= the price hike over 2x500GB isn't worth it IMO
[11:36] <rhelic> 10k RPM is nothing new, SCSI has been doing it for 10yrs
[11:36] <Anthr4xOs> Course
[11:36] <reznark> but not 500gb?
[11:36] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: at $300, 1TB isn't expensive
[11:36] <Anthr4xOs> SATA needs 10000 standards for "higher performance" drives
[11:36] <rhelic> there are 15K scsi drives, btw
[11:36] <reznark> yea
[11:36] <reznark> i used to own one
[11:36] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: yea, the only catch with the drive I bought is that it's 7200rpm
[11:36] <reznark> soundded like a jet turbine takeing off :P
[11:36] <rhelic> not that it's slow or anything
[11:36] <Anthr4xOs> rhelic= It's not worth it over 2x500GB for $230?
[11:36] <reznark> when I booted up
[11:37] <rhelic> Anthr4xOs: that's personal opinion, but I see your math
[11:37] <Anthr4xOs> I mean it's not "bad"
[11:37] <rhelic> it's not like you're comparing $150 vs $300, $230 vs $300 isn't that big of
[11:37] <Anthr4xOs> I just like buying gen-2,3 technology. Gen-1's are usually just "beta" re
[11:37] <rhelic> TomTom had a big software upgrade this week, I just updated mine
[11:38] <Anthr4xOs> THey expect a certain percentage to falter and be returned
[11:38] <reznark> yeah for sure
[11:38] <rhelic> I also might have gotten a copy of the latest maps and made them work on my
[11:38] <reznark> incremental marekt capitalism...I want my 1000tb now..I know they have it
[11:38] <Anthr4xOs> lol
[11:38] <Anthr4xOs> incremental marekt capitalism = corp jargon
[11:39] <reznark> :P
[11:39] <rhelic> The longer I own my TomTom, the more I like them as a company and as a produ
[11:39] <Anthr4xOs> aka "saturating the market"
[11:40] <reznark> i would prefer not to use a drive..
[11:40] <reznark> if we had multiple terabyte memsticks..
[11:40] <nexace> will someone help me figure out why irc servers are getting a "no ident resp
[11:40] <IamKing> Anthr4xOs: well, it would only be worth it if you wanted to buy more than
[11:40] <third|eye> open port 113 nexace
[11:40] <reznark> is there a way to connect a USB device thru SATA?
[11:40] <rhelic> nexace: because you are clearly firewalled/nat'd
[11:40] <reznark> solid state drives are a rip :P
[11:41] <nexace> how will i open port 113?
[11:41] <rhelic> reznark: no, and even if you did tunnel it, it won't go faster
[11:41] <third|eye> thru the router
[11:41] <nexace> not using a router
[11:41] <third|eye> mmmmmmm
[11:41] <rhelic> reznark: the bottleneck is the thumbdrive, the SSD used in SSHDs are superio
[11:41] <third|eye> what lets you access the net?
[11:41] <nexace> cable modem
[11:41] <third|eye> firewalled?
[11:42] <nexace> i just installed redhat, im sure there is a firewall running somewhere
[11:42] <rhelic> nexace: is there more than 1 CAT5 (network port) in the back of the modem?
[11:42] <nexace> no
[11:42] <nexace> 1
[11:42] <third|eye> forward port 113 with any firewall
[11:42] <rhelic> nexace: what's your internal IP?
[11:42] <reznark> i can see computers not having hard drives soon...and something that opens
[11:43] <reznark> then we're talking real technology...not this candy shop bubblegum crap
[11:43] <rhelic> reznark: because of latency, you need internal storage or 100% fiber end-to-
[11:43] <nexace> internal and external IPs are the same, 72.203.148.33
[11:43] <rhelic> reznark: I worked at a shop that had a 100% fiber NAS, it was faster to use
[11:43] <rhelic> nexace; then it's purely a firewall issue
[11:43] <reznark> no i mean...as in./..say, a thumbdirve that connect thru serial ATA
[11:44] <reznark> yso, true solidstate
[11:44] <rhelic> reznark: SSHDs already exist
[11:44] <reznark> right, but the expense is great
[11:44] <rhelic> they're just way more expensive compared to metal disks
[11:44] <nexace> rhelic: is it possible to figure out what firewall i am running to change th
[11:44] <reznark> even though thumbdirves are fats approacing a feasable size to replace them
[11:44] <reznark> fast not fats
[11:44] <rhelic> we're still many ways before SSHDs become reasonable, but they'll never be a
[11:45] <rhelic> reznark: hardly, the biggest common thumbdrives out there are 8gb
[11:45] <reznark> by the end of the year you will see 32gb
[11:45] <rhelic> and they're still $5 per GB, where as spinning disks are $.20 per GB
[11:45] <reznark> probably 64 and 128
[11:45] <reznark> the price will plummet reasonably, i am confident :)
[11:45] <rhelic> and finally, I don't think SSD reach the rewrite lifespan of a spinning disk
[11:46] <nexace> anyway to find out what firewall I am running?
[11:46] <rhelic> there was some huge improvement around 2004 with SSD
[11:47] <reznark> lifespan isnt an issue, imo..speed and performance in the moment...thats im
[11:47] <reznark> save time of your precious life :D
[11:56] <reznark> have a good afternoon guys, appreciate your insigt as usual
[11:56] <reznark> insight
[11:56] <third|eye> ;)
[12:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[12:16] <Hoova53> does anyone in here know about networking/ router probs?
[12:17] <cloneman> perhaps. Please ask your question.
[12:18] <Hoova53> i keep getting disconnected
[12:18] <Hoova53> then connected
[12:18] <Hoova53> sometime i have to go upstairs and unplug it and plug it back in
[12:18] <Hoova53> i dont think my network is secure
[12:19] <third|eye> i know about routers
[12:19] <Hoova53> ok
[12:19] <Hoova53> can u help me?
[12:19] <Hoova53> please
[12:19] <third|eye> ok whats the issue
[12:19] <Hoova53> i cant deal with this connecting and disconnecting
[12:19] <Hoova53> sometimes it seems like i have no bandwidth
[12:19] <third|eye> how far away are you from the telephone exchange?
[12:20] <Hoova53> u mean router?
[12:20] <third|eye> from house to exchange
[12:20] <Hoova53> huh?
[12:20] <Hoova53> the router is upstairs im in the basement
[12:20] <third|eye> mmmmm
[12:20] <Hoova53> signal strength is always very good or excellent
[12:21] <third|eye> ok
[12:21] <third|eye> new hardware?
[12:21] <basaistan> hello. anyone can help me with win98 install?
[12:21] <third|eye> and b - do you get any red lights on the router
[12:22] <cloneman> You might be overloading your router.
[12:22] <third|eye> what happens basa
[12:22] <cloneman> a lot of routers have issues with torrents, for exaple
[12:22] <third|eye> does it drop when you enter a specific site or program hoova
[12:23] <bizinichi> i got a mirror attached to a door with wall-mount tape, but the mirror se
[12:23] <cloneman> the easy solution is to reset your router to defaults, upgrade the firmwar
[12:23] <bizinichi> it probably falls off the door within 4 days
[12:23] <third|eye> try woodglue bizi
[12:23] <bizinichi> i have elmers glue
[12:23] <third|eye> i used this stuff called sticks like shit
[12:23] <third|eye> pretty good
[12:24] <bizinichi> what is it called?
[12:24] <third|eye> sticks like shit lol
[12:24] <bizinichi> :o
[12:24] <third|eye> hehe
[12:24] <third|eye> :D
[12:24] <hanexs> hi im ordering adobe premiere, and possibly after effects for a school. I a
[12:24] <Hoova53> ive upgraded the firmware and reset to defaults
[12:25] <third|eye> i had issues with this site hoova everytime i ran it my connection died
[12:25] <basaistan> im having alot of problems with it.. first of all, i tried to install lin
[12:25] <third|eye> you may have same issue
[12:25] <Hoova53> it's not even that
[12:25] <Hoova53> sometimes i wont even be doing anything
[12:25] <Hoova53> ill b watchin tv or laying in bed and it just disconnects
[12:26] <third|eye> tried asking the isp ?
[12:26] <Hoova53> im pretty sure it's a router setup prob
[12:26] <third|eye> maybe their server load is shit
[12:26] <third|eye> kk
[12:26] <third|eye> wireless or wired?
[12:26] <Hoova53> wireless
[12:26] <third|eye> never had wireless but i guess id be pretty similar
[12:27] <third|eye> you get any red lights from router?
[12:27] <third|eye> or it could be something simple like the psu
[12:28] <Hoova53> no
[12:28] <third|eye> even when it drops?
[12:28] <Aabye> Hey, How to change host?
[12:28] <Hoova53> i dont know it's upstairs
[12:28] <third|eye> mmmmmm
[12:28] <third|eye> maybe worth checking
[12:28] <Aabye> Hey, How to change host?¨
[12:28] <Aabye> Hey, How to change host?¨
[12:29] <third|eye> change ur isp :P^^
[12:29] <Aabye> erm
[12:29] <Aabye> how
[12:29] <Aabye> lol
[12:29] <third|eye> lol
[12:29] <third|eye> cancell the account lol
[12:29] <third|eye> then move to a new one!
[12:29] <third|eye> .......
[12:29] <horney44> help
[12:30] <third|eye> either that aabye or get an irc bot
[12:30] <third|eye> :P
[12:30] <Aabye> I has an IRC bot
[12:30] <Aabye> lol
[12:30] <Aabye> Wanna see it?
[12:30] <third|eye> if you want
[12:31] <third|eye> one other thing hoover
[12:31] <Aabye> Name a channel :D?
[12:31] <third|eye> :P
[12:31] <third|eye> #help
[12:31] <Aabye> just #aabye :D?
[12:31] <Aabye> lol
[12:31] <Dingalin> Windows vista 64bit, all folder under my drive F:\ say they are write prot
[12:31] <Aabye> I cant bring it here
[12:31] <third|eye> oooooo
[12:31] <Aabye> Goto #aabye then
[12:31] <third|eye> dinga
[12:32] <third|eye> i had same issue
[12:32] <Dingalin> how did you fix third
[12:32] <third|eye> you need to go into security options
[12:32] <third|eye> and change every folder :(
[12:32] <third|eye> takes a while
[12:32] <third|eye> put me right off vista
[12:33] <third|eye> never use it now
[12:33] <Aabye> third|eye Goto #Aabye then!
[12:42] <killahCF2> what does datapiped mean?
[12:42] <third|eye> doesnt that reffer to how much information can be processed at once?
[12:43] <crkmnky> anyone remember how to convert a char number to an int
[12:44] <crkmnky> you subtract the value of some char but I dont remember what one
[12:44] <crkmnky> in C btw
[12:46] <crkmnky> I guess i'll self help this one haha
[12:46] <third|eye> :|
[13:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[13:09] <intx> anyone have an ergnomic touchpad? is it really as good as the infomercial make
[13:09] <intx> can't seem to find any reviews/negative info on it
[13:10] <Lindy_> I used to use one.
[13:10] <Lindy_> and I liked it
[13:11] <intx> thanks :) any cons I should know of?
[13:11] <gopp> how do I make a short cut in a usb flash disk
[13:12] <gopp> so that no matter what computer I go on, and what letter the disk gets
[13:12] <gopp> I can double click on the shortcut and it works
[13:12] <gopp> I tryed %PATH%
[13:12] <gopp> but it won't work
[13:12] <gopp> PATH=%~d0\dir\dir\blah.exe;%PATH%
[13:13] * Hoova53 is now known as Hoova
[13:15] <intx> Lindy: any particular reason why you stopped using it?
[13:15] <FBERN> whats the copy/paste website?
[13:17] <FBERN> whats the website where u can copy/paste text
[13:20] <KhaOZ> So, i did this chkdsk thing, trying to find out what's up with my comp, but i
[13:20] <KhaOZ> took about 2 hours
[13:20] <KhaOZ> maybe less
[13:20] <KhaOZ> but when i got back it was just logged into windows
[13:20] <KhaOZ> no info anywhere on what the results were
[13:21] <KhaOZ> any way i can find out what the results were?
[13:25] <exboxer> a good technical question if anyone feels in a helpful mood?
[13:27] <exboxer> I have a bt quartet 1100 cordless phone. Just got a non wireless bb router.
[13:27] <exboxer> *power
[13:29] <gopp> how do I make a short cut in a usb flash disk so that no matter what computer
[13:43] <Anthr4xOs> rhelic= Trust me... once you go RAPTOR as Sys drive... you cannot go back
[13:43] <Anthr4xOs> It makes everything asidde from scsi and Sata-Raid-0 seem like mud
[13:46] <w0t_> how can i copy a file from linux to windows through ssh?
[13:46] <w0t_> or rather, what do i specify as user@host2?
[13:47] <Anthr4xOs> Sounds like an issue for google, Deww, Phisher, pixil...
[13:47] <Anthr4xOs> Got google?
[13:47] <w0t_> yes
[13:47] <Anthr4xOs> USE IT my young grasshopper
[13:47] <w0t_> well not specific i'll try
[13:47] <w0t_> brb
[13:48] <Anthr4xOs> thanks come back if you're stuck
[13:48] <Anthr4xOs> ask those people I listed. They'd know, but I Don't think they are around
[13:48] <w0t_> ok
[13:48] <w0t_> thanks anyway
[13:49] <Anthr4xOs> :-D
[13:49] <ASk> bah
[13:49] <ASk> :(
[13:49] <ASk> Anthr4xOs: don't scare them off
[13:54] <AIBeRTo> ME CAGO EN VUESTROS MUERTOS
[13:57] <Ep|phany> for some reason my on laptop (wireless or wired) my dls cap out at 180 whe
[13:57] <Ep|phany> any ideas
[13:57] <diggurd> hey, i have a problem with playing starcraft:broodwar with to players in th
[13:57] <diggurd> when we are in the same game i create the game starts lagging
[14:01] <diggurd> please?..
[14:01] <pdm1> hi need help setting up
[14:02] <tazzman71> help
[14:03] <pdm1> i am trying to get setup on mirc mininova
[14:03] <pdm1> help
[14:05] <Jumpie> i wonder if anyone woul djust shoot the punxustawny phil groundhog and roast
[14:06] <pdm1> hi can anybody help me get set up on mirc mininova
[14:06] <diggurd> i guess this channel isnt what it used to be :/
[14:06] <Jumpie> its just dead now man
[14:07] <pdm1> oh i c
[14:07] <hblount> hi. i have a problem with video files skipping periodically, every few minu
[14:07] <prajna> all the help realized it was pointless and left
[14:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[14:08] <rhelic> hblount: does it always skip at the same place?
[14:08] <rhelic> same exact place
[14:08] <rhelic> hblount: do you have a dual core cpu?
[14:08] <hblount> no
[14:08] <rhelic> no to what?
[14:08] <hblount> all
[14:08] <rhelic> well you don't have enough power to play the videos in Vista
[14:09] <prajna> hblount: what are your comptuer specs? cpu/ram/vcard?
[14:09] <rhelic> I'm guessing some background stuff is kicking up every once in awhile, causi
[14:09] <diggurd> hey, i have a problem with playing starcraft:broodwar with to players in th
[14:09] <diggurd> when we are in the same game i create the game starts lagging
[14:09] <rhelic> IMO, do not run vista unless you have dual core
[14:09] <hblount> oh
[14:09] <prajna> I have a dual core, and still oped for xp instead
[14:09] <hblount> ok thanks
[14:09] <rhelic> hblount: Vista Home or Home Premium?
[14:09] <prajna> no reason to give the system all those resources when I can better spend the
[14:10] <tazzman71> can anyone answer some general irc questions for me?
[14:11] <rhelic> hblount: if you disable the Aero theme, it might give you enough speed back
[14:11] <rhelic> and you won't even notice the difference, looks wise
[14:11] <Carioca> register nick?
[14:12] <hblount> ok thanks rhelic!
[14:12] <hblount> ima just go back to xp
[14:12] <hblount> shit goes too slow
[14:12] <prajna> is there an advantage of vista over xp?
[14:13] <pdm1> help
[14:13] <rhelic> hblount: like I said, no dual core, don't bother with Vista
[14:13] <rhelic> prajna: more secure, if you give it the resources, it's actually pretty fast
[14:14] <tazzman71> i run vista with no dual core and have no problems
[14:14] <rhelic> tazzman71: well you don't know what you're missing
[14:14] <pdm1> hi where do i go to get this script
[14:15] <rhelic> but I'm not here to argue OS semantics, just help
[14:15] <rhelic> pdm1: read the topic
[14:15] <tazzman71> right....
[14:15] <prajna> ive easily got the resources, but xp is just blindingly fast at this point..
[14:15] <pdm1> where is topic
[14:15] <rhelic> prajna: I'm a FF user, but I'm still concerned IE8 might be Vista only
[14:16] <rhelic> pdm1: in this window's titlebar
[14:16] <rhelic> prajna: I love XP, but when I build my new PC in 2-3 weeks, I'm going 64bit
[14:16] <rhelic> Windows 7 is still a good 18-20 months away
[14:17] <prajna> why, just out of curiosity?
[14:17] <rhelic> why not?
[14:17] <rhelic> if this was 2001, you'd be saying the same thing about Win 2000 vs XP
[14:17] <tazzman71> is there a sript you can download for this server?
[14:17] <rhelic> if I wanted to stay in the past, I'd still be running Windows 95
[14:17] <pdm1> sorri rhelic don't understand
[14:17] <rhelic> pdm1: NO SCRIPTS
[14:18] <prajna> I went from 2k to xp purely because the home network was much easier then, a
[14:18] <rhelic> prajna: ok, so it's fair to say Vista has a bunch of improvements, but you j
[14:18] <pdm1> so wat do i do if NO SCRIPTS
[14:18] <rhelic> pdm1: there's no script help here
[14:19] <rhelic> Vista isn't perfect, but it's imperfections are exaggerated, it's also a vic
[14:19] <prajna> I played w/it in the office at my previous job, and, well, I just didn't see
[14:19] <rhelic> Hopefully Windows 7 will be the silver bullet NT6 needs
[14:20] <solitude^> rhelic, its fairer to say that vistas minor improvements are not enough t
[14:20] <TheUni> is it possible to share a network folder over 2 ip ranges in xp? (with 2 nic
[14:20] <solitude^> its a kinda pointless release.
[14:20] <rhelic> solitude^: yes, that's what I'm basically saying
[14:20] <solitude^> they removed all the cool stuff like winfs
[14:20] <rhelic> solitude^: and since no programs are taking good use of it, don't see the ne
[14:20] <solitude^> right
[14:20] <solitude^> so, right now, its fair to say that vista is a waste of space
[14:20] <rhelic> solitude^: yea, I don't want to get into it, but I'm optimistic about Window
[14:21] <solitude^> yeah, same
[14:21] <solitude^> its the nextmajor release. ;)
[14:21] <rhelic> Vista is kind of like the WinME of the NT kernel
[14:22] <rhelic> what Windows really needs to a total re-inventing, with VirtualPC integrated
[14:22] <rhelic> which is what Apple's biggest strength (and weakness), their abality to flip
[14:23] <solitude^> lol, apple screwed up hard with leopard
[14:23] <solitude^> you know its a 64bit userland with a 32bit kernel?
[14:23] <rhelic> I haven't touched the new OS, nor use the others much to know it well
[14:24] <solitude^> andd 64bit program calls are translated into 32 bit before being passed t
[14:24] <solitude^> (do you know how expensive that is?)
[14:24] <rhelic> nice!
[14:24] <solitude^> its gash
[14:24] <rhelic> maybe that's why they push dual Xeons in their desktops
[14:24] <solitude^> at least xp and vista x64 have 64bit kernels
[14:24] <solitude^> ya think? ;)_
[14:24] <rhelic> not because they want to lavish you, but to cover up
[14:24] <solitude^> leopard is like vista, rushed out to compete and both are half done
[14:25] <solitude^> ill stick with 10.4 tiger and xp x64
[14:25] <rhelic> well my wife's laptop is Vista, I can't wait for SP1 to go final
[14:25] <rhelic> by the time my new PC is boing built, SP1 will be out to make a final decisi
[14:25] <solitude^> mmm
[14:25] <solitude^> my main rig is still a laptop with xp x64
[14:26] <solitude^> and vms for linux, bsd and win 98.
[14:26] <rhelic> I'm a .NET developer, so you know where I live
[14:26] <solitude^> with mono!
[14:26] * solitude^ looks shifty
[14:27] <rhelic> ok the world needs to stop saying Mono
[14:27] <rhelic> because the commercial market doesn't use that shit
[14:27] <rhelic> eof
[14:27] <rhelic> mono does not make *nux a suitable .NET platform, it only makes it a possibl
[14:27] <rhelic> don't get me wrong, I'm all for .NET on other platforms
[14:28] <solitude^> I was being sarcastic.
[14:28] <solitude^> Also, mono isnt half bad to be fair.
[14:28] <solitude^> i wouldnt want to develop on mono
[14:28] <TheUni> rhelic: we on other platforms don't want your .NET anyway :P
[14:28] <solitude^> but running programs on it is surprisingly fine
[14:28] <Jumpie> anyon got any fun superbowl plans
[14:28] <solitude^> i plan to avoid the superbowl
[14:29] <solitude^> wait, shouldnt we -> helpchat?
[14:29] <Jumpie> i dont care about the game itself..just the gathering of food and people
[14:31] <rhelic> Jumpie: I'm the exact same way, went to a superbowl party last year, I could
[14:31] <Jumpie> lol
[14:31] <Jumpie> ya i havent tracked or cared about nfl in years
[14:47] <Terminalt> hello
[14:47] <Terminalt> what are the eight permutations of x(y) = ±30 and y(x) = ±52 pixels ?
[14:47] <Terminalt> I'm trying how to learn to use inkscape and I don't know what that means
[14:50] <Chura> hey, any1 know where can i check Movies releases ?
[14:51] <slimer> swedupe.com
[14:52] <rhelic> Chura: http://movies.yahoo.gom
[14:52] <Chura> thanks
[14:52] <slimer> i thought you meant scene releases
[14:53] <Chura> i am :)
[14:53] <slimer> then either swedupe.com or orlydb.com
[14:53] <slimer> or you can join one of the 100000 pre chans on efnet
[14:54] <Chura> i'm looking for HD releases... no such at swedupe
[14:54] <Chura> such as ?
[14:54] <rhelic> Chura: read the topic, no illegal help here
[14:54] <Xodus989> Does anyone know how to delete the adobe photoshop cs3 license on Vista?
[14:54] <slimer> yeah i dunno
[14:54] <Xodus989> So it asks to enter your key again?
[14:55] <Chura> ok
[14:55] <Xodus989> I just upgraded from trial to design suite
[14:55] <Xodus989> and it says license expired :/
[14:55] <Xodus989> And I've been on hold for 20 minutes with support...
[14:57] <rhelic> uninstall it all, re do it
[15:03] <KhaOZ> Any ideas on what i can do? My computer, when i click folders, i get the hou
[15:04] <KhaOZ> it's like everything is slower
[15:04] <KhaOZ> sometimes it'll hang up longer
[15:04] <KhaOZ> i ran chkdsk on every drive, i don't know what the results were since it does
[15:04] <KhaOZ> I ran defrag on all the drives as well
[15:05] <rhelic> do you have an AV? have you ran Spybot on it?
[15:05] <KhaOZ> spybot?
[15:05] <KhaOZ> i have kaspersky
[15:06] <KhaOZ> what's spybot?
[15:06] <rhelic> ask google
[15:06] <KhaOZ> i have to run spybot on my AV is what you're saying?
[15:06] <KhaOZ> i'm sure i don't have any spyware if that's what you're saying
[15:07] <KhaOZ> you have to DL something to get spyware i believe, heh
[15:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:07] <rhelic> no, you run Spybot in addition to your AV, just to be sure
[15:08] <KhaOZ> ok, assuming that's not the problem, anything else you can think of?
[15:08] <rhelic> nope
[15:08] <KhaOZ> anyone in here who has any ideas?
[15:08] <rhelic> but the more "sure" you are about not having one, the more wrong you are
[15:08] <KhaOZ> i ran a virus scan yesterday and there was nothing, i can run this spyware de
[15:08] <KhaOZ> i'll check though i guess
[15:09] <KhaOZ> spywarebot.com is the one you're suggesting correct?
[15:09] <rhelic> I know it's a long shot, but for a good setup, you need to do a spybot scan
[15:09] <rhelic> no
[15:10] <KhaOZ> that's the first thing that came up when i googled spybot, heh
[15:10] <KhaOZ> damn it, i already installed it
[15:10] <rhelic> those are the advertisements in google
[15:10] <rhelic> you wanted the first search result "The home of Spybot-S&D!"
[15:10] <rhelic> nice, now you probably have junkware
[15:10] <KhaOZ> great
[15:11] <rhelic> yup, "spywarebot" is filed under junk/scam ware
[15:12] <KhaOZ> lovely, lol
[15:12] <KhaOZ> anything i need to know about removing it? or jsut uninstall and it's good?
[15:12] <rhelic> just run un-install
[15:12] <rhelic> if it left anything you don't want, SpyBot S&D will remove it
[15:16] <KhaOZ> i actually hope it's just some spyware or something
[15:17] <KhaOZ> cause i'm worried it's the hard drive or something along that line
[15:17] <Terminalt> what are the eight permutations of x(y) = ±30 and y(x) = ±52 pixels ?
[15:22] <Nostrum|g> anybody else got this paperweight called a ps3?
[15:23] <rhelic> haha
[15:23] <rhelic> no, because I like good games and great online play, so I got a 360 :P
[15:23] <KhaOZ> hear hear
[15:24] <KhaOZ> i had a paperweight back when sony launched them though, but it went up on eb
[15:24] <Nostrum|g> case im onto my 3rd one now
[15:24] <KhaOZ> why 3?
[15:25] <rhelic> I was about to ask the same thing
[15:25] <Nostrum|g> cause first 2 died
[15:26] <rhelic> wow, and ppl dog'd the 360 for dying
[15:28] <Rob235> hey
[15:29] <Rob235> whats a good flv to mp3/wav converter?
[15:29] <copeland> Rob235, http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
[15:29] <Rob235> thanks
[15:29] <copeland> np
[15:34] <peano> what do i need to connect my laptop to an HDMI PC enabled LCD TV?
[15:38] <__krazy> How do I import Windows Mail/Windows Vista contacts into Microsoft Outlook
[15:38] <MrMeth> If I wanted to change the font size in an application GUI that doesn't give
[15:38] <__krazy> I've imported them from a .wab file into Windows Mail, thought it would be
[15:38] <MrMeth> Hex editor?
[15:38] <__krazy> Just double clicked, and they were imported to Vista (Windows Contacts), ju
[15:39] <MrMeth> <__krazy> no import option in Outlook?
[15:39] <Merch^> __krazy: export into a csv and them inport as csv
[15:39] <__krazy> Sure, but nothing happens
[15:40] <__krazy> Import in outlook is through contacts etc that are already added, not via f
[15:40] <Merch^> you can import a file
[15:40] <__krazy> how?
[15:40] <Merch^> file.. import
[15:40] <Merch^> make sure you are on the contacts folder
[15:40] <Merch^> then file and import
[15:40] <Merch^> choose csv
[15:41] <Merch^> then pick the file
[15:42] <lindaah> Merch
[15:42] <Merch^> evening lindaah
[15:42] <lindaah> how's stuff?
[15:43] <Merch^> not bad actually, watching a couple old movies
[15:43] <Merch^> you?
[15:43] <lindaah> not bad, going to dinner for my daughters birthday soon
[15:43] <__krazy> ok
[15:43] <__krazy> thanks Merch^
[15:43] <Merch^> anytime
[15:44] <Merch^> my wife went over to her sisters house for her birthday, but I am not feelin
[15:44] <lindaah> awww :(
[15:45] <MrMeth> nice excuse :)
[15:45] <Merch^> so know I finished watching Young guns now watching the end of young guns 2
[15:45] <Merch^> true
[15:45] <lindaah> awww
[15:45] <Merch^> know=now
[15:45] <lindaah> cool
[15:45] <lindaah> my husband will be flying in tomorrow. he's been in Texas on a repair job
[15:45] <MrMeth> what he's really doing is Playing Young Guns ;)
[15:46] <Merch^> been gone long?
[15:46] <MrMeth> jk
[15:46] <lindaah> about 5 days
[15:46] <Merch^> =P
[15:46] <KhaOZ> you're just staying home to watch UFC82, tell the truth
[15:46] <lindaah> not bad this time
[15:46] <Merch^> that's true also
[15:47] <lindaah> so, when I get home from dinner, I'll get busy and do laundry and stuff. m
[15:47] <lindaah> hehe
[15:47] <Merch^> good plan
[15:54] <rhelic> anybody with a TomTom here? have you install the new TomTom Home 2.2 ?
[15:54] <fgt> hello
[15:54] <BiGLiPS> hey guys, me and fgt are having a debate and we would like some differing o
[15:54] <Hastor> I'm looking for a relatively cheap home security system. I've found one that
[15:54] <BiGLiPS> say you put like 20 men, and 15 women in a room for 30 days, each of those
[15:54] <fgt> BiGLiPS: go ahead and explain
[15:55] <fgt> they also would have an hour of reading time
[15:55] <fgt> every day
[15:55] <fgt> so they can stay current on politics
[15:55] <BiGLiPS> i was thinking about throwing in an hour for socializing too
[15:55] <BiGLiPS> considering theyre all having sex
[15:55] <fgt> yeah, i will allow it
[15:55] <fgt> maybe time to reflect on the disgusting things they're doing to eachother
[15:56] <fgt> "
[15:56] <fgt> "i like it when you suck my toes"
[15:56] <fgt> etc
[15:56] <fgt> reading time is extremely important for harry potter books, also
[15:56] <b0r3d> hi. im on Vista and I have XP cd which i want to install on my external hdd.
[15:57] <fgt> b0r3d: do you know anything about the aids virus
[15:57] <b0r3d> no
[15:57] <fgt> hm, ok
[15:57] <rhelic> b0r3d: what you want is to download Virtual PC 2007, and you can run XP in a
[15:57] <slimer> fgt: what race are these people? it's an important factor
[15:57] <BiGLiPS> slimer
[15:57] <BiGLiPS> lets just say mix
[15:57] <rhelic> b0r3d: unless you want to dual boot, but Virtual PC is just easier because y
[15:57] <fgt> slimer: 5 asians, 5 blacks, 5 whites, 5 eskimos
[15:57] <BiGLiPS> and equal mix of black/white/hispanic/asian/european
[15:57] <b0r3d> i don't want to run xp from inside vista
[15:57] <slimer> well
[15:58] <rhelic> b0r3d: just install XP, it will see there's another windows and allow you to
[15:58] <b0r3d> rhelic, that will make both vista/xp comtempt for memory usage
[15:58] <rhelic> true
[15:58] <slimer> i doubt they'd create aids but i'd watch some porn if somehow ebola got loos
[15:58] <b0r3d> rhelic, xp doesn't allow me to install it from vista
[15:58] <fgt> you haven't been invited to this party slimer
[15:58] <fgt> but good thinking
[15:59] <fgt> can faggots fucking eachother cause ebola?
[15:59] <rhelic> b0r3d: reboot with the disc in your drive, and run the install
[15:59] <fgt> if they arent clean, etc.
[15:59] <drewbuntu> no medical questions
[15:59] <b0r3d> rhelic, tried
[15:59] <b0r3d> rhelic, when it comes to boot from the external hdd, i get errors
[15:59] <fgt> drewbuntu: this is hypothetical
[15:59] <rhelic> lmsg drewbuntu I smell n0ah?
[16:00] <fgt> lol good job
[16:00] <b0r3d> rhelic, that is i run the installation.. xp copies the needed files to the ex
[16:00] <b0r3d> but then i get boot error
[16:00] <rhelic> b0r3d: do you have SP2 slipstreamed into your XP disc?
[16:00] <b0r3d> or a blue screen
[16:00] <fgt> since i cant ask a medical question
[16:00] <rhelic> or does the setup disc say SP2 on it?
[16:00] <fgt> lets say i simulated a group of people in a room fucking eachother on my comput
[16:02] <b0r3d> rhelic, slipstreamed?
[16:02] <b0r3d> i think so
[16:02] <rhelic> aka integrated
[16:03] <b0r3d> yes
[16:03] <BiGLiPS> b0r3d
[16:03] <rhelic> I've never tried it, no idea
[16:03] <BiGLiPS> u just gave me a good idea
[16:03] <BiGLiPS> to use my external hard drive as a portable linux
[16:04] <BiGLiPS> that will work on any pc its plugged into (unlike xp)
[16:04] <b0r3d> =(
[16:04] <b0r3d> but i want xp
[16:04] <BiGLiPS> unplug the drive with vista
[16:05] <BiGLiPS> set the boot-order to usb first in bios
[16:05] <BiGLiPS> put in the xp cd
[16:05] <b0r3d> nope
[16:05] <BiGLiPS> install it to the drive
[16:05] <rhelic> b0r3d: http://forums.cnet.com/5208-7588_102-0.html?forumID=70&threadID=1326
[16:05] <b0r3d> it wouldn't install
[16:05] <rhelic> b0r3d: looks like you might need to put the drive internal to set it all up,
[16:05] <b0r3d> :o
[16:06] <BiGLiPS> all that work doesnt sound worth it.. unless you REALLY want xp on external
[16:06] <rhelic> of course realize it won't do you much good if you want to plug the drive in
[16:07] <rhelic> and read the rest of http://www.google.com/search?q=installing+xp+on+an+ext
[16:07] <BiGLiPS> youll probably get a BSOD on bott when trying in another computer
[16:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[16:17] * arod_ is now known as arod
[16:20] * Star-Fire is now known as Star_Fire
[16:20] <b0r3d> rhelic, put it internal? but there's the laptop hdd internally
[16:35] <gazebo> hi, just wondering, anyone know how to extract subs from mkv file?
[16:36] <b0r3d> rhelic, put it internal? but there's the laptop hdd internally
[16:37] <Star_Fire> Anyone know if there's an RF remote that broadcasts in ALL channels? I'v
[16:57] <gopp> hey any one know, were I could find a clear.exe unix app, for win32 binary
[16:58] <phisher1> gopp: ehh
[16:58] <phisher1> gopp: to clear the screen ?
[16:59] <stiffNeck> Say, I've been thinking about buying some video goggles to substitute for
[16:59] <stiffNeck> Has anybody here used 'em for that? Is it practical?
[16:59] <prajna> how much?
[16:59] <gopp> phisher1 yes
[16:59] <gopp> in win32 bash
[17:00] <gopp> phisher1 I can't seem to do cls, in win32 bash
[17:00] <gopp> so I want
[17:00] <phisher1> gopp: win32 bash haha
[17:00] <gopp> clear
[17:00] <gopp> ahh
[17:00] <phisher1> sorry heh can't help ya
[17:00] <gopp> ahh ctrl L
[17:00] <gopp> works
[17:01] <gopp> ahh you wonder why, well I am making a portable unix usb flash
[17:01] <gopp> well as part of my tools
[17:01] <gopp> and have vi
[17:02] <gopp> I need portable tools, that is I need this for work
[17:03] <prajna> stiffNeck: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=679099
[17:07] <ThaDragon> If it's really urgent i'd go put my hands in.
[17:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[17:13] <adam1> I added a new hdd yesterday , had it run for a bit to make sure it was workin
[17:13] <adam1> I can get into safe mode
[17:13] <adam1> just not normal windows
[17:16] <stiffNeck> prajna: Thanks--I guess I'll have to wait for 'em to drop a bit more in p
[17:16] <prajna> do what I did...
[17:17] <prajna> just buy a big ass flatscreen
[17:17] <LucasH_> Hmm.
[17:17] <stiffNeck> I suppose I could--but I was thinking of the ergonomic applications, like
[17:19] <LucasH_> Hello, I've been having trouble trying to connect wirelessly, is there a wa
[17:19] <stiffNeck> Hahaha, "Fine for playing Commander Keen;" that's one old article. I alw
[17:19] <LucasH_> STay connected via Ethernet*
[17:19] <stiffNeck> LucasH_: ping -I eth0
[17:19] <stiffNeck> (or whatever the device name of your wireless interface is)
[17:19] <LucasH_> Oops, this is in windows. >.<
[17:19] <LucasH_> Would that still work?
[17:20] <stiffNeck> Oh. Nah, I dunno that you can do that without a civilized operating syste
[17:20] <LucasH_> Damn.
[17:20] <LucasH_> Windows itself says I am connected to a wireless network, but when I unplug
[17:25] <Filberto> Anyone know of a way to hook my TV to my router and beable to watch videos
[17:26] <phlux_> Okay, so say I want to locate a channel about a specific topic
[17:26] <phlux_> How would I go about doing so
[17:26] * phlux_ is now known as phlux
[17:26] <prajna> phlux: just go to #(subject)
[17:27] <prajna> Filberto: there are media servers for that
[17:27] <phlux> Nah it's gotta be more extentive than that..
[17:27] <iNToIT> phlux http://www.irchelp.org/chanlist/
[17:27] <phlux> I'm trying to answer a questionaiire.
[17:27] <Filberto> Sounds expensive
[17:27] <phlux> questionairre, rather
[17:27] <phlux> Thanks, iNToIT
[17:28] <iNToIT> np
[17:41] <Jookya> how should i arrange my 5.1 system for gaming and movie sound to best get th
[17:42] <Jookya> and, my computer sits at a 90 degree angle to my TV, is there any program th
[17:43] <Jookya> should i put the speakers in the corner of the room and angle the towards th
[17:51] <Lindy_> Jookya no
[17:52] <Lindy_> but I have a website that you maybe interesting in
[17:54] <Lindy_> argg cant find it now
[17:55] <Lindy_> but if you google setting up speakers there are a lot of good sites
[17:57] <eje> im thinking about gettin a camera? prolly a SLR camera, and im wondering what d
[17:58] <eje> i know pixel
[17:58] <Fire_Star> Nikon or Canon
[17:58] <eje> im not talkin about brands
[17:58] <iNToIT> eje http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+to+look+for+in+an+slr also #d
[17:58] <eje> im saying, like what features and shit
[17:58] <iNToIT> start witht he google link, it leads to plenty of info
[17:59] <eje> i did before i ask my question
[17:59] <eje> i read it on wikipedia, but i want to hear responses from people who own one
[18:00] <iNToIT> hence #dslr
[18:00] <salami> what are some of the most popular choices of utils that will take a xvid or
[18:01] <eje> convertxtodvd
[18:01] <iNToIT> also, if you look at the google results from the link I posted, you'll find
[18:01] <Fire_Star> hrmm... lemme cheq out dslr
[18:01] <salami> thanks for the recommendation
[18:02] <salami> any others?
[18:02] <Fire_Star> eje: how familiar are you with slr cameras?
[18:04] <eje> no i aint familiar with srls that why i asked
[18:04] * Clz is now known as clz
[18:04] <eje> Canon - EOS 12.8MP Digital SLR Camera looks hot
[18:05] <eje> 12.8-megapixel CMOS image sensor captures high-resolution images up to 4368 x 2
[18:05] <Fire_Star> eje: checkout http://www.steves-digicams.com/cameras_digpro.html for rev
[18:06] <Fire_Star> eje: if you like canon 5d, try nikon d3
[18:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[18:08] <eje> i should read up first before i get one so i know
[18:09] * McLuvn-NC is now known as CyCle_NC
[18:09] <Fire_Star> eje: yes. read all you can. see what others like/dislike about their c
[18:10] <Fire_Star> see what reviewers emphasize and compare those points
[18:10] <revdaddy> my friend Niffy has been banned for open proxies just wondering if i could
[18:11] <Lindy_> she needs to close up some ports
[18:11] <Lindy_> or find a server that doesnt scan
[18:11] <revdaddy> what server doesnt scan
[18:12] <Lindy_> not sure
[18:12] <Lindy_> you can try prison or homelien
[18:12] <Lindy_> hmmm
[18:13] <Lindy_> maybe vel
[18:13] <Lindy_> oh wait
[18:13] <Lindy_> hold on
[18:15] <Lindy_> she is black listed
[18:16] <rhelic> eje: btw, I just bought the brand new Canon SX100IS, it's not SLR, but it's
[18:16] <rhelic> I've very happy with it, but still waiting on my 4gb card, so I haven't used
[18:17] <rhelic> eje: as a general user, SLR might be overkill for you
[18:18] <eje> why
[18:18] <Fire_Star> eje: hehe. oh yeah. i've got the Canon AE-1 (film), Nikon N80 (film),
[18:19] <rhelic> eje: expensive, and might not be as user friendly
[18:19] <Fire_Star> eje: are you a shutterbug?
[18:19] <eje> i dont know what you're talkin about
[18:19] <eje> shutterbug?
[18:19] <rhelic> eje: yea I don't think you'll want SLR
[18:19] <eje> seriously, i dont know nothing bout cameras, thats why im reading
[18:19] <Fire_Star> eje: shutterbug = someone who loves to take pictures
[18:20] <eje> yeah, i like taking pictures
[18:20] <rhelic> eje: obviously not enough if you don't know the phrase
[18:21] <Fire_Star> eje: for you, you might want to start with a decent non slr camera with
[18:21] <rhelic> eje: check out http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000V1VG4W
[18:23] <Fire_Star> eje: or if you REALLY want to start off with a DSLR, get one of the lowe
[18:23] <eje> not bad
[18:23] <eje> theres a $700 one at bestbuy, its Canon - EOS Digital Rebel XTi 10.1MP Digital
[18:24] <rhelic> unless you major in photography or do it as a job, I wouldn't spend that muc
[18:24] <rhelic> keep in mind it's not like the 70s, a $700 camera WILL NOT last you a lifeti
[18:24] <rhelic> in the digital world, you're buying a liability
[18:24] <rhelic> so imho, to even spend the $300 like I did, is going "all out"
[18:25] <rhelic> and I make that much in a day
[18:25] <Fire_Star> yes, digital DSLR won't take the same quality of pix as a new DSLR 10 yea
[18:25] <eje> yeah, you're right
[18:25] <eje> i have to think about it
[18:26] <Fire_Star> ....pictures are good... = pictures as good....
[18:27] <eje> so what do you recommend? film or digi?
[18:28] <Fire_Star> eje: if you're just going to take snapshops/everyday pix, go digital.
[18:28] <rhelic> eje: digi, just buy a good camere /wo going overboard
[18:29] <Lindy_> does rr have a static ip ?
[18:29] <rhelic> when you hit $300, that's pretty much the best consumer grade cameras, so I
[18:29] <rhelic> Lindy_: ehh, kinda sorta
[18:29] <Fire_Star> eje: see if there's any photographer's group/class in your area. join i
[18:29] <rhelic> Lindy_: officially, you have to buy static, but they don't change often if y
[18:29] <Lindy_> define kind of sort of?
[18:29] <eje> oh no, i dont take pics for myspace page
[18:29] <Lindy_> so how do you change it?
[18:29] <rhelic> Lindy_: well I haven't paid attention for 5yrs, but back then, it would last
[18:29] <eje> i usually take pics of flowers, cars, etc
[18:30] <Lindy_> so how can a user change it?
[18:30] <eje> and put it n frame
[18:30] <rhelic> Lindy_: get lucky, shutdown the modem for a long time (hours, days) and you'
[18:30] <rhelic> eje: a lot of reviews said that camera is really good for closeup work
[18:31] <rhelic> and the zoom is 5 star too
[18:31] <rhelic> 10x optical zoom is very good, fyi, digital zoom is useless
[18:31] <rhelic> in fact you can and should shut it off
[18:31] <Lindy_> ahh ok thanks
[18:31] <rhelic> Lindy_: somebody else might know more than me, I never had to worry about my
[18:31] <Lindy_> it isnt for me
[18:32] <Lindy_> someone is on rr and is black listed
[18:32] <Lindy_> and it trying to get on the net
[18:33] <eje> ill brb
[18:50] <Jookya> is there a chat channel for audio? i.e. setting up surround sound, btw #audi
[18:52] <Shedding> is there any way of installing leopard on a virtual machine (on the PC)?
[18:53] <reppy> Is there any sort of utility for Windows that will give me detailed info simi
[18:53] <reppy> I hate when Windows says "unknown device" .. there has to be a way I can tell
[18:54] <effigy> hey i just bought a removable 360gig harddrive but it only shows up as 298 g
[18:55] <Shedding> reppy.. there is
[18:55] <Shedding> effigy: make sure the drive is formatted with NTFS
[18:55] <Jookya> effigy, welcome to marketing 1.1
[18:55] <effigy> eh?
[18:55] <Shedding> right.. and what jookya said
[18:55] <Shedding> hard drive manufactures equate 1GB to 1000Megabytes
[18:55] <Shedding> not 1024
[18:56] <Shedding> therefore 360GB=360,000 Megabytes
[18:56] <Shedding> which if you divide by 1024 you get
[18:56] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[18:56] <Shedding> 351.56
[18:57] <Shedding> but I think you are missing the other 53gb
[18:57] <Shedding> because your cluster size is too big (normally when you format the drive F
[18:57] <Shedding> go into start
[18:57] <Shedding> run
[18:57] <Shedding> type diskmgmt.msc
[18:57] <Shedding> make sure there is nothing on the new removable drive
[18:57] <Shedding> then delete the fat32 partition and recreate it using ntfs
[18:58] <Shedding> and you will get a shiny drive with 351.56GB
[18:58] <Shedding> you are welcome
[18:58] <Shedding> reppy.. there are debug functions that will tell you what kind of items yo
[18:58] <Shedding> do a search for debug and video
[18:59] <Shedding> but nothing comes close to lspci
[18:59] <Shedding> now to my question....
[18:59] <Shedding> is there a way I can run leopard on my vista box
[18:59] <Shedding> using vmware or microsoft virtual machine
[19:00] <phlux> what's that movie where there's a guy, his son, and his 10 y/o daughter where
[19:00] <phlux> then he lets the people take the car and takes his daughter... then the son g
[19:00] <masada> hey
[19:01] <phlux> pretty sure the "Dad" is tom cruise
[19:01] <Shedding> war of the worlds
[19:01] <Shedding> the daughter is dakota fanning
[19:01] <Shedding> check out the imdb
[19:01] <Shedding> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407304/
[19:01] <masada> could anyone possibly reccomend a good mcse/mcsa studying app, preferably wi
[19:02] <phlux> holy crap
[19:02] <phlux> dakota fanning?
[19:02] <phlux> damn
[19:05] <effigy> cool thanks shedding :) sorry i went afk for a bit
[19:05] <Tbone139> a thread got stuck in my video device driver on coming out of sleep mode
[19:05] <Tbone139> the only change that's been made is I'm running the GUI version of folding
[19:06] <Shedding> np
[19:06] <Tbone139> should I just go with the CLI version?
[19:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[19:07] <effigy> shedding when i go to create the partition it still says i only have 300gb t
[19:08] <Shedding> Mmm
[19:08] <Shedding> did you remove all other partitions?
[19:08] <Shedding> delete completely?
[19:09] <userme> i want to put an ad in craigslist with a pic, without a pic the text looks n
[19:10] <effigy> yeah it says the whole thing is unpartitioned
[19:10] <effigy> er unallocated
[19:10] <effigy> maybe if i disconnet it then put it back in?
[19:10] * n00b536 is now known as jmdevince
[19:11] <Siththebe> I'm looking for a program or firefox extension that lets me download any
[19:11] <Siththebe> Not upplug, not greasemonkey extensions
[19:11] <Siththebe> unplug*
[19:11] <RoSkO> Siththebe: searched mozilla site
[19:11] <RoSkO> ?
[19:12] <Siththebe> I did
[19:12] <Siththebe> http://www.orbitdownloader.com/download.htm
[19:12] <Siththebe> something like that
[19:12] <Siththebe> except without the phoning home
[19:12] <Siththebe> and possible adware
[19:17] <Shedding> is red hat server free?
[19:18] <Shedding> one other question guys.. does apache come in the free workstation edition
[19:27] <gopp> wtf is orbit
[19:27] <gopp> ahh
[19:27] <gopp> apache is ree
[19:27] <gopp> nope
[19:27] <gopp> fedora
[19:27] <gopp> or centos is free
[19:31] <bobby-> Hey guys
[19:31] <bobby-> Im playing a game and it seems to lag
[19:31] <bobby-> could it be the video card?
[19:32] <RDMutt> ok, this is a really weird question but. is anyone in here from vermont? mid
[19:32] <bobby-> I guess they all must be sleeping? :P
[19:33] <BiGLiPS> depends on ur stats
[19:33] <RDMutt> I'm over here on the east coast bobby-; it's 10:33 pm. what time is it in au
[19:34] <BiGLiPS> what vid card / cpu / memory / game
[19:34] <bobby-> 2:34pm
[19:34] <bobby-> in melbourne
[19:34] <bobby-> BiGLiPS, how can i check?
[19:34] <BiGLiPS> go to start menu
[19:34] <BiGLiPS> press run
[19:34] <BiGLiPS> type
[19:34] <BiGLiPS> dxdiag
[19:34] <bobby-> ive got vista
[19:34] <bobby-> lol
[19:35] <BiGLiPS> i dont use vista so i dunno
[19:35] <effigy> hey shedding... actually the box says 320 not 360... so do you think i'll ge
[19:35] <bobby-> got it
[19:36] <bobby-> ok BiGLiPS
[19:36] <bobby-> Ive got directx diagnostic tool screen up
[19:36] <BiGLiPS> yea whats it say for Processor:
[19:36] <BiGLiPS> and Memory:
[19:37] <BiGLiPS> then click the display tab, and check
[19:37] <BiGLiPS> Name:
[19:37] <BiGLiPS> and what game
[19:37] <bobby-> AMD Athlon(tm) 64x2 Dual Core Processor 4600
[19:37] <bobby-> memory 894MB RAM
[19:37] <bobby-> Virtua tennis 3
[19:38] <BiGLiPS> whats it say for Name: in the display tab
[19:38] <bobby-> NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[19:39] <Zatio> What should I do if someone is acting-a-fool and flooding the channel just to
[19:39] <BiGLiPS> its highly possible that its the video card, that one is like 5 years old a
[19:40] <BiGLiPS> try setting everything to low settings
[19:40] <bobby-> anything patch or something
[19:40] <bobby-> to fix it
[19:40] <BiGLiPS> low resolution
[19:40] <BiGLiPS> and download video drivers from nvidia.com
[19:41] <bobby-> wow low resolution
[19:41] <bobby-> makes my screen big and hurts my eyes
[19:41] <bobby-> lol
[19:41] <BiGLiPS> you gain performance though
[19:41] <bobby-> mm ok
[19:41] <bobby-> now what
[19:41] <BiGLiPS> your cpu and video card are way off balance too btw
[19:41] <BiGLiPS> you cpu is like a 7/10, video card 1/10
[19:42] <bobby-> NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL?
[19:42] <Zatio> Nevermind he stopped
[19:42] <AndyD> is it possible to record a adboe flash player stream
[19:42] <bobby-> WWW.NIVIDIA.COM
[19:42] <TheUni> 6150 is onboard, iirc.
[19:43] <bobby-> BiGLiPS, what should i do now?
[19:46] <bobby-> lol
[19:46] <bobby-> meh
[19:46] <RDMutt> I'm trying to find someone, I have name with middle initial of her and her h
[19:47] <bobby-> were did biglips go? :/
[19:48] <november5> hi all
[19:48] <november5> how do you run a .jar file?
[19:49] <TheUni> java
[19:49] <deww> java -jar file.jar
[19:49] <bobby-> hey BiGLiPS
[19:49] <bobby-> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_169.25_whql.html
[19:49] <bobby-> would that be ok?
[19:50] <bobby-> deww would you be able to help?
[19:50] <deww> dunno. i just got home.
[19:51] <bobby-> Ive got a game, virtua tennis 3 and it runs slowly when im playing like lags
[19:51] <bobby-> and big lips told me to make resolution small and download the video drivers
[19:51] <deww> well that is nvidia's official site
[19:51] <bobby-> ye
[19:52] <deww> will it help? maybe
[19:52] <bobby-> ok ill download
[19:52] <bobby-> see how it goes
[19:52] <deww> you have a slow video card
[19:52] <bobby-> can it be fixed?
[19:52] <bobby-> or have to buy a new one?
[19:53] <deww> laptop? usually not replaceable
[19:53] <bobby-> na not laptop
[19:53] <bobby-> pc
[19:53] <deww> oh
[19:53] <deww> maybe. i don't know what you have.
[19:53] <bobby-> Compaq
[19:53] <deww> the recommendations of lowering the resolutions might help
[19:53] <bobby-> <bobby-> AMD Athlon(tm) 64x2 Dual Core Processor 4600
[19:53] <bobby-> <bobby-> memory 894MB RAM
[19:53] <deww> turning off effects and stuff like that
[19:54] <bobby-> <bobby-> NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[19:54] <Katasaki> what's the procedure for voting in primaries? do you need to be registered
[19:54] <deww> bobby-: compaq makes computers are upgradeable and those that aren't. i can't
[19:54] <bobby-> How do i turn off effects?
[19:54] <deww> you'll have to read the documentation for the game.
[19:55] <bobby-> :/
[19:55] <bobby-> k
[19:55] <bobby-> thanks
[19:56] * Katasaki points out that he asked a question incase it got lost.
[19:56] <deww> finding system requirement for pc games seems harder than it should be.
[19:56] * deww points out that pointing out that you had asked a question is very annoying.
[19:57] <deww> and i'm sure if someone knows the answer and would like to answer, they would
[19:57] * Katasaki points out that pc requirements are usually on the back of the box or in the doc
[19:58] <deww> good luck looking at the box, if you're trying to look it up for someone else
[19:58] <Katasaki> well humph, why can't he look at his own damn box? :P
[20:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[20:13] * kneer0x is now known as _kneer0w
[20:15] * Caricatur is now known as forOBAMA
[20:17] <Swift> see topic, no politics.
[20:17] <deww> heh
[20:20] <moshie95> anyone got netflix
[20:21] <moshie95> I am trying to watch there movies on my pc\
[20:21] <moshie95> and iot says I need to update tp wmp 11
[20:21] <forOBAMA> a good name for your daughter is Piper.
[20:22] <forOBAMA> my sister just had a kid and named her Mary
[20:22] <forOBAMA> how very.... ... COMMON
[20:22] <forOBAMA> Chaelah?
[20:22] <forOBAMA> cool
[20:22] <iNToIT> forOBAMA, hi.. the casual chat belongs in #helpchat not this channel
[20:22] <moshie95> wmp 11 installer says I need to upgrade mce to rollup 2
[20:23] <iNToIT> moshie95, ok so..
[20:23] <moshie95> well
[20:23] <iNToIT> moshie95 if it requires those updates for its DRM.. that's what you have to
[20:23] <moshie95> last time I upgreade mce to rollup 2 it had drem
[20:23] <forOBAMA> what's in a name? .... ?
[20:23] <forOBAMA> my bad
[20:23] <forOBAMA> helpchat i go
[20:24] <moshie95> and it said it can not view some channels cause it is restricted
[20:24] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[20:24] <moshie95> Krap
[20:24] <moshie95> I use mce to view tv\
[20:25] <moshie95> I dont wont that drm crap
[20:25] <moshie95> drm
[20:25] <iNToIT> moshie95, having the drm won't stop you from watching anything
[20:25] <moshie95> well
[20:25] <moshie95> mce says
[20:25] <iNToIT> can you type all on one line please, and..
[20:25] <iNToIT> not like
[20:25] <iNToIT> you know..
[20:25] <iNToIT> this..
[20:25] <moshie95> the channel is restricted to view on this pc\
[20:26] <moshie95> I did it before\
[20:26] <iNToIT> then that's a tradeoff you have to live with
[20:27] <belter> run windows update and get over it
[20:27] <moshie95> I upgrade to the new internet explorer
[20:28] <moshie95> it says internet explorer is running with add ons disabled
[20:28] <moshie95> totally new question btw
[20:28] <_Pope> I was wondering if anyone here was in the U.S. Army?
[20:28] <Jumpie> pope i was :)
[20:28] <Jumpie> not now tho
[20:29] <belter> plz restate inquiry, please give any exact error messages or observed behavi
[20:30] <november5> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/Mac/MacBook-Air
[20:30] <november5> that's really cool :P
[20:31] <_Pope> Jumpie
[20:31] <mosaic_> can somebody skype me? testing my install
[20:33] <moshie95> anyone knows
[20:33] <moshie95> the latest ie
[20:33] <_Pope> 7 ?
[20:33] <moshie95> say internet explorer is running with add ons disabled
[20:34] <moshie95> yeah
[20:37] <Seracht> hey anyone know any good male hairstylists in nyc
[20:37] * comprei_b is now known as Carioca
[20:38] <Lindy_> google is your friend
[20:39] <Seracht> um
[20:39] <Seracht> I tired
[20:39] <Seracht> tried
[20:39] <Seracht> also, I cannot seem to find any good male hairstyles, they all look the sam
[20:39] <ThaDragon> invader blood runs through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants..
[20:41] <mosaic_> its called a barber
[20:44] <_Pope> supercuts
[21:07] <WGalczak> guys
[21:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[21:07] <WGalczak> any programs/simple ways to
[21:07] <WGalczak> output a files in a folder to a txt file?
[21:07] <WGalczak> i.e. if there are 3 files in a folder named 1.exe, 2.exe, 3.exe
[21:08] <WGalczak> the text file will read Line 1 1.exe Line 2 2.exe Line 3 3.exe
[21:08] <floatsaka> dir /b > dir.txt
[21:10] * _kneer0w is now known as kneer0x
[21:17] <Jumpie> and >> appends
[21:42] * Ifrit- is now known as Ifrit
[21:48] <Quinton> hello
[22:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[22:20] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[22:24] <Scrambled> Can someone please tell me how to register my nickname
[22:24] <Lindy_> you cant sorry
[22:24] <ThaDragon> That's ok Lindy_
[22:24] <Scrambled> That sucks
[22:24] <ThaDragon> That = fuck-robe
[22:24] <Lindy_> yep
[22:25] <Lindy_> ThaDragon excuse me ?
[22:25] <ThaDragon> I might answer, one day.
[22:25] <Scrambled> So what if someone is using your name
[22:25] <Scrambled> What happens
[22:25] <Lindy_> then you find another
[22:25] <Scrambled> Oh ok
[22:25] <Lindy_> ThaDragon and ou are ?
[22:25] <Lindy_> nothing happens
[22:25] <ThaDragon> yes
[22:25] <Lindy_> you find another
[22:32] <Jumpie> hey lindy :D
[22:33] <Lindy_> hey Jumpie
[22:35] <Jumpie> lol wh at'd he do this time
[22:37] <Lindy_> not really sure
[22:37] <Lindy_> just kind of sprewing stuff
[22:37] <Lindy_> out of no where
[22:37] <Lindy_> like he is on auto pilot
[22:37] <Lindy_> or crack
[22:37] <Jumpie> pilots on crack = dangerous
[22:38] <Jumpie> ;)
[22:38] <Jumpie> so rooting for anyone specific tomorrow/
[22:38] <blanto> steelers
[22:38] <Jumpie> rams...
[22:42] <BBuilder> so
[22:44] <du> if im getting an auto loan should i get variable or fixed interest?
[22:46] <Lindy_> what is the fixed at ?
[22:46] <du> i dont know, because im applying at my credit union online the first question is
[22:47] <du> and then the next is how much i want one for
[22:47] <Lindy_> that is something you have to decide
[22:47] <Lindy_> there is a risk factor involved
[22:47] <Lindy_> and also depends if it is closed or open
[22:47] <Lindy_> if you want to take a risk then go for the variable
[22:48] <Lindy_> if you dont want to take the risk
[22:48] <Lindy_> then go for closed
[22:48] <Lindy_> also for closed you know what your payments are
[22:48] <Lindy_> open you wont know
[22:48] <Lindy_> they could go up or down
[22:48] <Lindy_> basically it is if you are willing to gamble or not
[22:48] <du> <@Lindy_> also for closed you know what your payments are
[22:48] <du> ^^i need to know
[22:48] <Lindy_> in the end it could save you money
[22:49] <Lindy_> or cost you
[22:49] <Lindy_> well if it is fixed
[22:49] <Lindy_> your payments are x for x yrs
[22:49] <Lindy_> so you know every month that is what you pay
[22:49] <Lindy_> for variable it could mean the difference of a few dollars
[22:50] <Lindy_> and depends on how tight your budget is
[22:52] <du> thanks
[22:53] <Jumpie> i know for auto also
[22:53] <Jumpie> the amount going to interest/principal changes as you get closer to end of l
[22:53] <Jumpie> mine..man its kinda random...last month out of a 307 payment i had 200 go to
[22:53] <Jumpie> but month before only 50
[22:54] <Jumpie> so ireally dont get it..all i nkow is paying like 20% extra can have an expo
[22:54] * Activator is now known as activator
[22:54] <Jumpie> i think they said like..for a sears card at 2000$, if you paid just the min
[22:54] <Jumpie> but if you paid like an extra 20....it was like 8 years or somethin
[22:55] <du> what are you saying?
[22:56] <nsfw> it'll take less than 20 years now
[22:56] <nsfw> this is just math. compound interest calculations
[22:57] <Lindy_> Jumpie you cant compare CCs to loans tho.
[22:57] <Lindy_> on loans as the interest reduces you pay more on the principle
[22:57] <Lindy_> on a cc you dont
[22:57] <Jumpie> well i ewas just making a point that....its not a fixed distribution
[22:57] <Jumpie> lindy well..your right
[22:58] <Lindy_> you still keep paying the same interest
[22:58] <Jumpie> but thas cause a cc is revolving auto is isntalment
[22:58] <Jumpie> applse / oranges
[22:58] <Lindy_> not really
[22:58] <ThaDragon> not really... neally
[22:58] <Jumpie> heh lindy im actually closing out 3 crappy cards
[22:58] <Lindy_> on a loan you are paying interest on the reduced interest
[22:59] <Lindy_> on a cc you are paying interest on the orginal amount
[22:59] <Jumpie> you mean reduced balane?
[22:59] <Jumpie> balance
[22:59] <Lindy_> right sorry
[22:59] <Jumpie> yea..
[22:59] <Jumpie> but if your cc balance gets loweer of course the relative interest is less
[22:59] <Lindy_> yeah my son did that
[23:00] <Lindy_> no it doesnt
[23:00] <Lindy_> that is the point
[23:00] <Lindy_> my son got himself into cc debt
[23:00] <Lindy_> I calculated that it would take him 15 yrs to pay it off.
[23:00] <Lindy_> so I took over the cc
[23:00] <Lindy_> put the money on my power line
[23:01] <Lindy_> and he paid it off in 6 months
[23:01] <Lindy_> Jumpie you know you can get the interest reduces on cc ?
[23:01] <Lindy_> reduced
[23:05] * activator is now known as Activator
[23:07] <Jumpie> yea some i have
[23:07] <Jumpie> the 'high risk ones' i had
[23:07] <Jumpie> not really negotiable
[23:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[23:07] <Lindy_> ahh
[23:07] <Jumpie> but our wells fargo and amex..our 'big ones' are the ones im concentrating o
[23:07] <Jumpie> im closing continental and frst premiere
[23:08] <Lindy_> my son was in a real mess
[23:08] <nsfw> heh you know that closing long established cards actually hurts your credit sc
[23:08] <nsfw> :P
[23:08] <Lindy_> yep
[23:08] <Lindy_> but so can not paying them
[23:08] <nsfw> this is true :P
[23:08] <Lindy_> my son was in a mess
[23:08] <Lindy_> I took his paystubs and bank statment one day.
[23:09] <Jumpie> nsfw yea but
[23:09] <Lindy_> and figured out he was spending 500 more a month than he was making.
[23:09] <Jumpie> its kinda a case by case
[23:09] <Jumpie> really long yes...
[23:09] <Jumpie> but if its very high interest and low limit
[23:09] <Jumpie> its less
[23:09] <Jumpie> i have a $4k wells fargo
[23:09] <Lindy_> cut them up
[23:09] <Lindy_> pay them off
[23:10] <Lindy_> then reapply
[23:10] <Jumpie> yeah
[23:10] <Lindy_> but put them away
[23:10] <Jumpie> wells is my big one
[23:10] <Jumpie> i wanna stay good on
[23:10] <nsfw> Jumpie: Credit score doesn't see your interest rate
[23:10] <Lindy_> I wish we had credit scores here.
[23:11] <nsfw> and no it's not really case by case. score is widely understood to be based o
[23:11] <Lindy_> but then we arent in as much trouble as the states
[23:11] <nsfw> uhh no you don't
[23:11] <Lindy_> so maybe that is a good thing
[23:11] <nsfw> credit scores are nothing but problems :|
[23:11] <Lindy_> nope
[23:11] <Lindy_> yeah I can see that actually
[23:11] <nsfw> credit scores don't actually do a very good job of dictating who is a good per
[23:12] <trelane_> Lindy_, you mean 78% of your population isn't mortgaged to the tits?
[23:12] <Lindy_> yep they are
[23:12] * Wabbit67 is now known as Wabbit98
[23:12] <Lindy_> but mortages and ccs are totally different
[23:12] <Lindy_> anyone can get a cc
[23:12] <Lindy_> not everyone can get a mortage
[23:12] <Lindy_> but having said that
[23:12] <Lindy_> a lot of ppl here will max out a cc
[23:13] <Lindy_> then put it on their mortage
[23:13] <Lindy_> pay off the cc at the lower rate
[23:13] <Lindy_> and start all over again
[23:13] <nsfw> yeah that's a prob in the us. basically they get loans against equity to pay
[23:13] <nsfw> which is good, only if you stop charging credit cards lol
[23:13] <Lindy_> but....
[23:13] <Lindy_> your homes went too high too fast
[23:14] <Lindy_> and a lot of ppl are paying on mortages on homes that arent worth the orgina
[23:14] <Lindy_> our homes didnt go up as high as fast
[23:14] <Lindy_> and havent declined
[23:21] <rocko> yo when's that uhh
[23:21] <rocko> spy satelite supposed to hit earth
[23:21] <Jumpie> well regardless
[23:22] <Jumpie> i think credit is criminal
[23:22] <Jumpie> the rating system
[23:22] <Desiac> but any know of a usermode encryption proggie? basicaly no root but still co
[23:22] <Jumpie> the ripple effect of a few problems can be astromonmically hard tor epair
[23:22] <Jumpie> i should start over in the UK
[23:22] <Jumpie> :)
[23:23] <johnney5> hey, can someone please tell me where the "Application Data" folder is nor
[23:23] <Jumpie> its in documents and settings/usernamefolder
[23:23] <Jumpie> but its hidden
[23:23] <Jumpie> you have to show all files/folders in folder options
[23:23] <johnney5> ah, figured it was hidden, i was driving myself crazy looking for it thoug
[23:24] <Jumpie> np
[23:24] <Jumpie> just be careful what you alter there :)
[23:24] <johnney5> nothing, just clearing temporary files, thanks ;)
[23:46] <puika> http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139637493
[23:52] <Jumpie> plz no spam
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