Session Start: Fri Feb 01 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:00] <unor_> alright copeland and rhelic thanks a lot..
[00:04] <Jumpie> oh man this is a slow night
[00:04] <Jumpie> its only 3!!!
[00:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:09] <DJ_HaMsTa> ur slow
[00:10] <Jumpie> there are no tickets
[00:10] <Jumpie> i did my one ticket
[00:10] <Jumpie> i got 4 mor ehours of staring at the ceiling
[00:10] * Lindy is now known as Lindy_
[00:10] <Lindy_> live dangerously
[00:10] <Lindy_> look at the floor
[00:11] <DrgdHmstr> but never, ever look Lindy_ directly in the eyes
[00:11] <Lindy_> smart man
[00:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> oh crap its linds
[00:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> lol i called him slow before linds came in the room
[00:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> im safe
[00:15] <DJ_HaMsTa> yea no tickets here as well
[00:15] <DJ_HaMsTa> only like 4 calls
[00:16] <copeland> helpdesk?
[00:17] <DJ_HaMsTa> yap
[00:17] <DJ_HaMsTa> i cant even help myself
[00:17] <copeland> that's sick, I think I've always wanted that kinda job
[00:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> i have a hot layout here, laptop tethered to my cell with a huge external
[00:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> muahaha
[00:18] <copeland> badass
[00:19] <Jumpie> lol
[00:19] * Jumpie stares down Lindy_
[00:19] <Jumpie> DJ_HaMsTa hope you have a unlimited data plan :)
[00:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> of course
[00:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> if not verizon would rape me
[00:19] <Jumpie> DJ_HaMsTa where you work?
[00:19] <Jumpie> noc too?
[00:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> atlantic health
[00:20] <Jumpie> on eof those "i swalloed a razor blade..what do i do??" hotlines?
[00:21] <DJ_HaMsTa> nah, one of these "i forgot my password" and "where is start?"
[00:21] <Jumpie> nice
[00:21] <RcHaCk> DJ_HaMsTa:you dirty cuban
[00:21] <Jumpie> well i guess its good technically we are slow cause that means the network i
[00:21] <DJ_HaMsTa> dirty and flipping proud!
[00:21] <RcHaCk> lol
[00:21] <Jumpie> we do have alot of last minute splicing projects going on to get customers u
[00:21] <Jumpie> so just planned fiber throws, etc
[00:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> the sewage was blocked the other day in 1 of the hospitals, overflowed th
[00:22] <RcHaCk> eww
[00:22] <Jumpie> ugh
[00:22] <bizinichi> are you talking about gaza
[00:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> lol
[00:22] <bizinichi> gaza strip is flowing with shit
[00:23] <Jumpie> why is the hospital and datacenter in the same building wtf
[00:23] <DJ_HaMsTa> no im stalking about here
[00:23] <DJ_HaMsTa> yea
[00:23] <RcHaCk> haha i wonder if insurance covers sewage overflows lol
[00:23] <Jumpie> "yea..do you have shit spillage coverage?"
[00:23] <bizinichi> lmao
[00:23] <RcHaCk> lol
[00:23] <RcHaCk> sorry sir your policy doesnt cover exploding pipes full of shit lol
[00:23] <Jumpie> hehe
[00:24] <RcHaCk> i remember my one friend lived in a ghetto apartment building and the sewage
[00:25] <RcHaCk> im surprised no one got sick
[00:25] <DJ_HaMsTa> were they living in it ?
[00:25] <RcHaCk> yes
[00:25] <RcHaCk> people was living in the apartment
[00:25] <DJ_HaMsTa> oh shit
[00:25] <RcHaCk> apartments
[00:25] <RcHaCk> ya but no one was using the underground parking though lol
[00:25] <RcHaCk> unless you wanted to swim thur shit to get to your car lol
[00:26] <RcHaCk> man it was the worst place ever
[00:26] <RcHaCk> im surprised they never got sued or shutdown,etc..
[00:27] <RcHaCk> we use to play a game called "name that smell"
[00:27] <RcHaCk> lol
[00:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> oh oh i know!!
[00:27] <RcHaCk> like at one point some people just left there garbage in the hallways
[00:28] <RcHaCk> lucky my friend lived next to the exit door lol
[00:28] <RcHaCk> like i think you would throw up if you had to walk down the full hallway
[00:28] <RcHaCk> lol
[00:29] <RcHaCk> my friend was going thur like 10 bottles of air fresher a week just so he sp
[00:29] <DJ_HaMsTa> air freshner does not work
[00:29] <RcHaCk> i dont think its that bad anymore
[00:30] <RcHaCk> ya but better then smelling pure shit
[00:30] <DJ_HaMsTa> i hate the fact that u have to smell shit WITH perfume at the same time
[00:30] <RcHaCk> lol
[00:30] <RcHaCk> well depends what type of air freshner
[00:30] <RcHaCk> there are two types
[00:30] <RcHaCk> ones that mask the smell
[00:31] <RcHaCk> ones that eat the smell
[00:31] <DJ_HaMsTa> eh i think its the same
[00:32] <RcHaCk> nah
[00:32] <RcHaCk> they are different
[00:32] <RcHaCk> the ones that eat the smell are more expensive
[00:32] <RcHaCk> i use to smoke at work
[00:32] <RcHaCk> and we use to see customers coming and we would spray
[00:32] <RcHaCk> and they wouldnt notice a thing
[00:33] <DJ_HaMsTa> its an expensive habit
[00:33] <RcHaCk> but also that stuff we used was expensive even at the discounted price we go
[00:33] <w0t> how do i find my local ip from the terminal in ubuntu?
[00:33] <RcHaCk> but the stuff smelled so good
[00:34] <RcHaCk> all good smelling flavors
[00:35] <RcHaCk> but i cant see it being too good for your health also that crap
[00:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> $ ?
[00:35] <RcHaCk> ya i think it was like $12 a can
[00:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> crap
[00:35] <RcHaCk> it was industial strengh
[00:35] <RcHaCk> they dont sell this stuff at the super market
[00:38] <DJ_HaMsTa> hardware store ?
[00:38] <RcHaCk> some of them might have it
[00:39] <RcHaCk> we got it from a distrubutor
[00:40] <RcHaCk> i use to keep a can in my car
[00:40] <DJ_HaMsTa> i need to buy new car smell
[00:42] <Jumpie> w0t
[00:42] <Jumpie> ifconfig -a
[00:42] <DJ_HaMsTa> its wearing off from my car
[00:42] <w0t> thanks jumpie :)
[00:42] <Jumpie> np
[00:44] * Jumpie spills a bottle of jenkem on DJ_HaMsTa
[00:47] <DJ_HaMsTa> the heck is jenkem!
[00:47] <Jumpie> google my friend
[00:47] <Jumpie> prepare to be disturbed
[00:48] <DJ_HaMsTa> i am now distubed
[00:48] <DJ_HaMsTa> http://jaboon.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/jenkem-stew.gif
[00:49] <Jumpie> hahahaha
[00:49] <copeland> hahah wtf
[00:49] <Jumpie> i heard it was ultimately a hoax/urban legend but the thought i still nasty
[00:50] <Jumpie> lol Copafield
[00:50] <Jumpie> copeland
[00:50] <copeland> i've seen a lot of strange gifs in my day
[00:50] <copeland> that one is up there now
[00:51] <Jumpie> DJ_HaMsTa must have a death wish to be lindy-ized
[00:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> im wondering why im still here myself
[00:53] <Jumpie> man...i cant wait to work from home more..this crap is killin me
[00:53] <Jumpie> i earned $260 today in my underwear helping someone config a router over the
[00:54] <Jumpie> :)
[00:54] <nzi> lol
[00:54] <nzi> i know how that feels jumpie
[00:54] <nzi> I do that everyday ;p
[00:54] <nzi> in my slippers and pajamas
[00:55] <Jumpie> hehe
[00:55] <Jumpie> well im doing it more and more
[00:55] <Jumpie> just not quite enough business yet to exceed my verizon pay
[00:55] <Jumpie> which is on its way..when that happen im outtie
[00:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> what comp do u work for ?
[00:56] <Jumpie> well im a partner with a consulting company ont he side
[00:56] <Jumpie> and verizon as my 'main job' for now
[00:58] <DJ_HaMsTa> sign up for onforce
[00:58] <DJ_HaMsTa> www.onforce.com
[00:58] <DJ_HaMsTa> ive gotten some good freelance work from them
[00:58] <blc> i wouldn't mind getting paid to sit at home either.. but it's also nice to get
[01:00] <Jumpie> blc well i do alot of face to face work
[01:00] <Jumpie> but router config stuff i do from home alot
[01:03] <bizinichi> linux question: how do i delete all lines in a file except those that hav
[01:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:10] <Jumpie> in what...vi ?
[01:12] <DJ_HaMsTa> in nanoooo!!!
[01:13] <blc> bizinichi: learn to use sed with regex
[01:13] <bizinichi> yeah im looking at tutorials of sed, right now
[01:14] <bizinichi> sed and awk
[01:14] * blc configged eggies with sed at one point
[01:14] <blc> created 4 temp files, but made some smooth finish to it
[01:15] <Morbid> can someone help me with Perl?
[01:16] <Milanello> deww... you still alive ?
[01:16] <Milanello> you don't die ? :P
[01:16] <blanto> anyone know if this is real: http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/1/34jan
[01:17] <blc> looks photoshopped
[01:17] <blanto> oh ok
[01:17] <blanto> i thought so
[01:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> looks gay
[01:19] <Morbid> ok so no help here either
[01:19] * _moin is now known as moin
[01:41] <Jumpie> man..this guy got a tough break
[01:41] <Jumpie> just got an email from someone named James Pusey
[01:41] <Jumpie> im sure he was never hassled in school
[01:53] <jackal^> any oper up?
[01:57] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[02:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:22] * jumpie2 is now known as Jumpie
[02:24] <Saww> i have some weird swellings in my body; around my palm(thumb in 1 hand,and the
[02:24] <Saww> what are those things?
[02:24] <Saww> they feel like stone and sometimes itch
[02:25] <belter> do we look like phds?
[02:25] <copeland> consult your doctor..
[02:25] <Saww> it's closed, friday :S
[02:25] <belter> enjoy the ER stay
[02:25] <copeland> you should try #phd
[02:25] <Saww> what's phd?
[02:25] <copeland> nevermind
[02:27] <Saww> :S
[02:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> personal homeless degree
[02:28] <Jumpie> lol
[02:28] <Jumpie> thats a new one :)
[02:29] <blc> neh.. looks like something Metshrine used to dick around with
[02:30] <Jumpie> wb
[02:31] <blc> wtf?
[02:31] <ASk> Saww: you were bit by a mosquito
[02:31] <blc> he's still banned..
[02:31] <belter> +e in rbl
[02:31] <blc> ah.. why?
[02:31] <ASk> yeah, why
[02:32] <belter> no idea,it's alight
[02:32] <CrOc> is there nickserv on here?
[02:32] <blc> CrOc: no.. no registration services on efnet
[02:32] <CrOc> arghh
[02:32] <CrOc> ok
[02:32] * blc bitchslaps phisher1
[02:32] <belter> anarchy at it's best
[02:32] <belter> he can stay
[02:32] <ASk> aw :(
[02:33] <belter> it's cool
[02:33] <blc> heh
[02:33] <blc> ASk: itching triggerfinger?
[02:33] <ASk> blc: yeah :(
[02:33] <belter> just give it a few minutes
[02:33] <belter> there's no lack of abusive users in here
[02:33] <blc> heh
[02:33] <ASk> blc: i don't even know why my armory gives me a weapon sometimes :(
[02:33] <blc> endless possibilities.. :P
[02:34] <blc> ASk: to regulate dawg..
[02:34] <belter> pop guns
[02:34] * blc prefer pop tarts
[02:34] <belter> you don't get the 9mm till you get Oper
[02:35] <belter> and then you get the bazooka, when you become admin
[02:35] <ASk> i get an m4a1 usually
[02:35] <ASk> ;0
[02:35] <belter> do silly things like create a juped channel and force join users into a klin
[02:35] <CrOc> is vhost here
[02:35] <blc> hehe
[02:35] <blc> CrOc: no
[02:36] <belter> options for maintining channels, 1. setup a egg bot 2. buy or use a shell a
[02:36] <belter> out of the ball park!
[02:37] <Shaye> can u burn FLAC files into a DVD and not only into a CD?
[02:37] <belter> most likly
[02:37] <davies> if im creating a 4 partition setup ... windows xp, sun solaris, ubuntu, data
[02:37] <belter> i recommend you follow up with #doom9 or doom9.org for all your video and au
[02:37] <Shaye> thanks
[02:38] <belter> davies: put one platform on the system, and then use vmware to emulate the r
[02:38] <belter> s
[02:38] <davies> we cant use separate software
[02:39] <davies> other then the os's
[02:39] <belter> you can only boot one os at a time
[02:39] <davies> yes
[02:39] <belter> on vmware, you can have all of them running at the same time
[02:39] <davies> oh really
[02:39] <belter> and most likly you will not hose the last partition while setting it up, or
[02:40] <davies> ok so what file system would u set your partitions as?
[02:40] <belter> ntfs, zfs, ext3, and fat32
[02:40] <davies> wow
[02:40] <belter> but they are not going to play nice together, i can tell you that
[02:40] <davies> u use software to partition? or just through windows cd
[02:40] <davies> ic
[02:41] <blc> belter: you being a bsd man, you forgot ufs
[02:41] <belter> muti-booting more than 2 OS is 1. slower, 2. a royal pain 3. most likly will
[02:42] <davies> ic
[02:42] <davies> im not sure why our proffs are making us do this
[02:42] <belter> he said solaris not bsd, ufs is the default for solaris but he asked "what f
[02:43] <blc> ah.. i didn't read that far back.. :P
[02:43] <belter> because he wants you to know how to use every single fdisk / format / cfdisk
[02:44] <belter> and ubuntu needs to be axed, and replaced with a red hat or suse distro
[02:45] <belter> imagine the look on davies 's face after running format on solaris 10 x86
[02:46] <davies> ic
[02:46] <blc> heh
[02:46] <davies> he just mentioned ubuntu's easiest to interact with
[02:47] <davies> interesting tho, so much to learn
[02:47] <belter> platform dependacy is a weakness
[02:48] <belter> an operator should be able to use any platform to accomplish the goal requir
[02:49] <davies> hmm...
[02:49] <belter> ls ? what's ls? DIR MotherSucker!
[02:49] <davies> i agree, but it is like... basic intro course heh
[02:49] <davies> aren't the linux systems 95% up to standards anyway?
[02:49] <belter> no
[02:50] <davies> no..
[02:50] <belter> linux is just a kernel, every distrobution has it's own way of doing diffren
[02:51] <belter> there own package managment, run levels, networking, user graphical interfac
[02:51] <blc> i have yet to try solaris in fact
[02:51] <davies> wait a minute
[02:51] <davies> did i mean to say unix systems are 95% up to standards? correct me...
[02:51] <davies> <-- noob... Linux is GUI... uhhh
[02:52] <belter> blc: it's like bsd, alot like bsd... but still has a little of the at&t flav
[02:52] <blc> belter: even though the kernel have differences, the basic command structure is
[02:52] <belter> Linux is not a GUI driven OS
[02:52] <blc> belter: ic
[02:52] <davies> ah
[02:52] <blc> davies: linux is just the kernel
[02:53] <blc> it's the different falvors that decide it's gui/appearance/look&feel
[02:53] <belter> like kernel32.dll for winblows
[02:53] <blc> flavors*
[02:53] <DJ_HaMsTa> .does it come in stawberry ?
[02:54] <belter> oh just format the box and put gentoo on it.... you'll love the thosands of
[02:54] <davies> :)
[02:54] <belter> no cough!
[02:54] <belter> now
[02:54] <belter> doesn't it taste like strawberrys?
[02:54] <davies> Debian is the best tho...
[02:54] <davies> :)
[02:54] <belter> oh bs
[02:55] <DJ_HaMsTa> i say ubuntu kicks both your asses
[02:55] <davies> ok Fedora is
[02:55] <DJ_HaMsTa> in a deathmatch
[02:55] <davies> no Suse is the best!
[02:55] <belter> linux is linux, not like torvol wrote specific kernels for each distro
[02:55] <davies> Slackware!
[02:55] <DJ_HaMsTa> suse looks nice
[02:55] <DJ_HaMsTa> but does it feel nice to the touch? thats the question
[02:55] <davies> Suse can do NTFS w/ windows os's :)
[02:55] <belter> i like debian, slackware, ubuntu
[02:56] <ASk> davies: so can all other linux distributions
[02:56] <davies> ahh
[02:56] <davies> the plot thickens
[02:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> belter quit flipfloping and pick one
[02:56] <davies> !
[02:56] <davies> :D
[02:56] <belter> but when you get out in the real world, there's only red hat and suse becaus
[02:56] <ASk> we use centos a lot
[02:56] <davies> ah, good to know
[02:56] <ASk> which is red hat without the support
[02:56] <belter> centos = free red hat
[02:57] <belter> vmware ESX = red hat based
[02:57] <davies> hey question... why does our teacher have us learning vi?????????? is it nec
[02:57] <belter> because notepad isn't installed on most *nix
[02:58] <belter> but vi is standard
[02:58] <davies> ah
[02:58] * Ralph68 is now known as ```
[02:58] <belter> vim for the win
[02:59] <davies> well no wonder Suse is good... it's made by Germans :)
[03:00] <blc> *cough*
[03:02] <davies> so if im gonna install multiple OS's... I'm going to get a prompt at load-up
[03:06] <blc> probably not automatically..
[03:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:08] <CrOc> where can i find the ircops from this network?
[03:08] <Ralph71> I need some too
[03:13] <davies> im so screwed heh
[03:13] <CrOc> ?
[03:14] <davies> this assignment on multi-booting systems... due today, dunno where to start
[03:19] <CrOc> google it
[03:19] <CrOc> :(
[03:23] <davies> my group partner is a frickin retard
[03:26] <davies> im falling behind in all my courses!!!!!
[03:29] <davies> this linux course is a FRICKIN joke
[03:29] <davies> Im expecting the university's to have a structured program that goes into ba
[03:29] <davies> instead, these course's are ALL OVER THE MAP!
[03:30] <davies> the only course I have that's stuctured is my C++ course thank heavens
[03:35] <blc> this is not #bitchaboutit though..
[03:36] <Jumpie> :)
[03:36] <Jumpie> holy crap january flew by
[03:37] <davies> yeah ill try that #
[03:39] * Cr0c is now known as ExEcUtIvE
[03:39] <davies> i cant believe how tuff life is
[03:39] <davies> hah
[03:40] <blc> i can't believe how simple it is..
[03:41] <davies> heh
[03:41] <davies> yeah well "I don't need sex, life's already fu*king the shit out of me"
[03:41] <davies> :)
[03:41] <blc> haha
[03:57] <Missing> anyone here know a little .php ?
[03:57] <Missing> looking for just a min of someones time
[03:57] <ExEcUtIvE> ur best to state the q rather than ask for min of time
[03:57] <Missing> k here goes
[03:58] <Missing> i installed zencart all if fine and works great except this
[03:58] <Missing> when i go to final order page im getting blank screen i dont think its stan
[03:59] <Missing> i look in cache folder and here is what it says
[03:59] <Missing> #prevent directory browsing -- for security
[03:59] <Missing> IndexIgnore */*
[03:59] <Missing> <Limit GET POST PUT>
[03:59] <Missing> Order Allow,Deny
[03:59] <Missing> Deny from All
[03:59] <Missing> </Limit>
[03:59] <MiN-0> .pcp
[04:00] <Missing> does anyone know where i can fidn the line to trun of deny and know what wo
[04:01] <Missing> i had a friend that would help me with small problems like this but sadly i
[04:01] <davies> haha
[04:01] <davies> holy shit
[04:01] <davies> that's the worst story
[04:01] <Missing> sad but true
[04:02] <davies> maybe you asked him one to many questions
[04:02] <davies> heh jk
[04:02] <ExEcUtIvE> and u laugh davies
[04:02] <ExEcUtIvE> thats real harsh
[04:02] <davies> no man it's just amazing
[04:02] <Missing> na he would give his life for me if needed
[04:02] <davies> ive never heard someone come into mirc and ask a computer related question,
[04:03] <Missing> only reason i mention him becasue when running into little problems like th
[04:03] <Missing> he has tought me everything i know about systems how to build repair and mu
[04:04] <davies> sorry to hear that man, if i knew yer answer i'd help u right now, but... du
[04:04] <davies> yeah that's valuable stuff, sounds like a good person
[04:04] * clz is now known as Clz
[04:04] <Missing> i have a feeling it has to be something simple becasue i followed all the d
[04:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:09] <blc> that was a easy one.. just comment out the Deny from all line
[04:13] <davies> dammit
[04:18] <OxYPuR> hellow
[04:18] <OxYPuR> was wondering if u could tell me what that means
[04:18] <OxYPuR> #EZTV Illegal channel name
[04:18] <OxYPuR> I cant join
[04:20] <ExEcUtIvE> dunno
[04:20] <ExEcUtIvE> i joined ok
[04:20] <OxYPuR> maybe Im on the wrong server
[04:20] <ExEcUtIvE> have u got a fserve or xdcc running
[04:20] <ExEcUtIvE> ?
[04:20] <OxYPuR> no
[04:20] <ExEcUtIvE> any ads or announcements
[04:21] <OxYPuR> none
[04:21] <MornStar> just change server
[04:21] <MornStar> it'll be fine.
[04:21] <OxYPuR> yeah I guess
[04:21] <OxYPuR> brb
[04:21] <OxYPuR> it works fine now
[04:21] <OxYPuR> thks
[04:21] <MornStar> np
[04:29] <blc> OxYPuR: some serveradmins "jupe" channels they don't want on their servers.. th
[04:52] <dhcpee> hi
[04:53] <dhcpee> since yahoo is constantly having order processing errors and I can't seem to
[04:53] <dhcpee> registrar-
[04:55] <MiN-0> hey was sarah connor show on this week
[04:56] <dhcpee> godaddy upsets me ;/
[05:05] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[05:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:33] * JuneBug is now known as kingpimp
[06:00] <maverickx> I have a sprint sierra aircard. Is there any way to share this internet c
[06:01] <compdoc> with router software, maybe
[06:01] <maverickx> i have a dlink wireless router
[06:01] <compdoc> or ad-hoc
[06:01] <Kor> internet connection sharing
[06:01] <maverickx> does anybody know how to set this up?
[06:01] <compdoc> if you have a wireless router, why not use that?
[06:01] <Kor> do you have an ethernet port and a crossover cable or router?
[06:01] <maverickx> because i will be getting rid of my internet connection with Road Runner.
[06:02] <Kor> right click your sprint connection, get status, click properties, click the adv
[06:02] <Kor> in xp of course
[06:02] <Kor> and there you will see the options for internet connection sharing
[06:03] <Kor> then you can connect another pc to the ethernet port
[06:04] <maverickx> oh so the 2 laptops have to be wired together with a cat5 or 6?
[06:04] <Kor> crossover cable
[06:04] <Kor> to wire them directly
[06:04] <Kor> cat5 for a routher/hub/switch
[06:04] <maverickx> ya.. right..
[06:04] <maverickx> so i can't do it through the dlink?
[06:04] <Kor> I don't know if you can do ICS with an addition wireless
[06:04] <Kor> you can try it
[06:04] <Kor> it'd be the same method, I think
[06:04] <maverickx> i wouldn't even know where to begin
[06:05] <maverickx> with using the dlink
[06:06] <compdoc> if its a normal router, you set the wireless nic in the laptop to obtain an
[06:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[06:07] <maverickx> when you say point it at the dlink.. what do you mean?.. you talking abo
[06:08] <compdoc> usually, theres software that sees all the wireless lans in the area
[06:08] <Kor> yeah
[06:08] <Kor> try it that way
[06:08] <compdoc> yours has a name
[06:08] <Kor> I don't know if routers like getting their internet connection that way though
[06:09] <maverickx> well when i click on tcpip and properties the window doesn't come up
[06:09] <compdoc> prolly jsut need to run the setup software
[06:12] <phisher1> sorry bout that ^
[06:22] * Kosh|Away is now known as KosheeN
[06:23] <Caricatur> is there a way i can search for a Japanese Buffet? the only one i can fin
[06:25] <Caricatur> no, don't say "google" .... what should i google?
[06:27] <Kor> yellow pages
[06:27] <Kor> yp.yahoo.com superpages.com ect
[06:29] <Caricatur> aye
[06:31] <ircboring> IRC Stats Rotated at http://irc-is-boring.com/help
[06:35] <userme> do you know if i need a special type of memory for Apple computers (iMac or
[06:36] <Kor> goto crucial.com
[06:36] <Kor> they can tell you what ram you need
[06:51] * asdasda is now known as look
[06:56] <Italianu> hy all
[07:01] <Kid99> can someone help me my internet explorer keeps cutting out i have to do a few
[07:01] <_smtp> hey
[07:01] <_smtp> any ideas where I can get an enormous list of active domain names? like 100,0
[07:03] <compdoc> you going to spam ppl?
[07:03] <Metshrine> thats what my first thought was
[07:03] <Kid99> anyone about
[07:03] <BudHuh32> Having trouble with a client pc behind a Cicsco pix515 establishing a PPTP
[07:04] <Metshrine> Kid99: No, we are having an idling contest. Please wait
[07:04] <BudHuh32> lol
[07:05] <Kid99> ?
[07:05] <BudHuh32> (topic)
[07:05] <BudHuh32> *cough cough*
[07:05] <xaris> iam gay from cyprus and i want someone can i have help?
[07:06] <schematic> help with what?
[07:06] <xaris> the cyprus chanel
[07:06] <xaris> do u knowit?
[07:06] * look- is now known as look
[07:06] <schematic> nope
[07:06] <BudHuh32> xaris: not here but you can type /join <channelname> where <chan
[07:06] <xaris> ok
[07:07] <BudHuh32> try another one
[07:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:07] <xaris> what chanel?
[07:07] <xaris> name?
[07:07] <BudHuh32> Id get banned for telling you
[07:07] <BudHuh32> :)
[07:08] <BudHuh32> /join OMGpplRmeanInChannelCyprus
[07:08] <BudHuh32> op friendly version ^
[07:09] <BudHuh32> anyone good with cisco pix's?
[07:10] <look> humm
[07:10] <compdoc> heard of em :)
[07:10] <BudHuh32> lol
[07:10] <BudHuh32> Having trouble with a client pc behind a Cicsco pix515 establishing a PPTP
[07:10] <look> i`m wondering , does EfNet have auth services and chan services ?
[07:10] <BudHuh32> look: no
[07:10] <look> i can`t see any ns , cs , or X
[07:10] <BudHuh32> welcome to freedom
[07:11] <RBL> look: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your chan
[07:11] <BudHuh32> isnt it nice!
[07:11] <compdoc> I like openvpn - much easier
[07:11] <Kid99> can someone help me my internet explorer keeps cutting out i have to do a few
[07:12] <Kor> get firefox or opera
[07:12] <Kor> see if the problem continues
[07:12] <}storm{> http://www.to-6.net/?id=56282570
[07:13] * compdoc opens that url right away
[07:13] <Kid99> it continues really weird irc and messenger work still
[07:13] <BudHuh32> spyware most likely
[07:14] <BudHuh32> adaware is good
[07:14] <BudHuh32> by lavasoft
[07:14] <BudHuh32> free too
[07:14] <Kid99> my other pc is the same
[07:15] <BudHuh32> hrmm
[07:15] <BudHuh32> <Kor> get firefox or opera
[07:15] <BudHuh32> <Kor> see if the problem continues
[07:15] <look> interesting policy
[07:15] <look> and weird as well
[07:15] <BudHuh32> its called freedom
[07:16] <look> democracy :))
[07:16] <look> and about the topic
[07:17] <look> what do you call illeagal Homework /
[07:17] <look> illegal drama , or medical ?
[07:17] <BudHuh32> notice the slashes /'s
[07:17] * look is now known as Alexandru
[07:17] <BudHuh32> treat them like ,'s
[07:18] * BudHuh32 is now known as LoDiDoDi
[07:18] <Alexandru> i don`t get it ..
[07:18] <LoDiDoDi> hrmmmm
[07:18] <LoDiDoDi> comma's
[07:19] <LoDiDoDi> www.onelook.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/bware/dofind.cgi?word=comma
[07:20] <phisher1> the point of that?
[07:20] <phisher1> #help is not a democracy.
[07:21] <phisher1> The ops reserve the right to refuse help to anyone regarding any subject.
[07:21] <LoDiDoDi> Phisher: He was saying No "illeagal Politics" etc
[07:21] <phisher1> The topic is some of the more more frequently asked issues that we don't s
[07:22] <z3> i need some help with mounting a ntfs partition on linux. i'm using CentOS 5...
[07:23] <compdoc> which version of ntfs?
[07:24] <z3> ntfs-3g
[07:24] <Alexandru> z3 i guess you`ve got a collision there
[07:24] <z3> 1.1120
[07:24] <Alexandru> it happened to me
[07:24] <z3> its not mounted already, Alexandru
[07:24] <z3> it doesn't appear in the 'mount' command
[07:25] <Alexandru> it won`t as long as a collision exist
[07:25] <Alexandru> my ntfs partition was in collision if the sound and the network device
[07:25] <z3> ok, how can i fix this collision?
[07:26] <Alexandru> i didn`t figure it out hoe that happened
[07:26] <Alexandru> well i didn`t :P
[07:26] <z3> lol
[07:26] <LoDiDoDi> remount it?
[07:26] <z3> remount?
[07:26] <LoDiDoDi> unmount then remount
[07:26] <z3> umount says its not mounted
[07:27] <LoDiDoDi> there ya go then
[07:27] <z3> but mount says its busy
[07:27] <z3> :]
[07:27] <LoDiDoDi> hrmmm :)
[07:27] <LoDiDoDi> if its not mounted it shouldnt be busy
[07:28] <LoDiDoDi> sure your trying to mount the right drive?
[07:28] <LoDiDoDi> not one that is already mounted
[07:28] <z3> yup, according to fdisk -l i do
[07:28] <texx> hey does it matter if i use turbotax or taxcut if all im diong is my w-2 and h
[07:28] <LoDiDoDi> texx: both should be fine
[07:29] <texx> thnks
[07:45] <sparrw> if you are filing something that simple, either of those is a waste of money
[07:45] <shaft0> Is there a way to use Server 2003 as a Media Center hub? Like, have the ser
[07:57] <sparrw> shaft0: yes
[07:57] <sparrw> wow, 720 seconds
[07:57] <sparrw> thats 12 minutes. he asked his question 12:11 before that, must have gone p
[08:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:13] <JailBlack> can someone recommend a great memory test i can put on a usb stick and ru
[08:14] <pixil> memtest86 or something
[08:15] <JailBlack> not or something
[08:15] <HS^^> im raised as vegetarian....and thus never ate meat knowingly. i ate whopper f
[08:15] <JailBlack> i need the best test ; one I can put ona mmeory stick , boot to FreeDos
[08:19] <adam0> HS^^: a whopper is hardly a good example of good meat
[08:20] <adam0> why dont you try a nice steak and see how that goes
[08:21] <HS^^> but is it supposed to taste like scabs and bloody
[08:21] <HS^^> :\
[08:21] <adam0> no
[08:22] <adam0> if its not well done, youll see some pink in there, but it shouldnt actually
[08:22] <U4YA> im trying to buy a notebook, problem is, no one ever mentions any info about t
[08:22] <adam0> battery life in my experience with laptops is never as good as you need it to
[08:22] <U4YA> is it really that bad ??
[08:23] <HS^^> most people have eaten their own scabs sometime....... i did, and the taste
[08:23] <U4YA> any notebooks that can survive 10 hours or something ??
[08:23] <adam0> if its a big concern, your best bet is to carry a 2nd batt
[08:23] <adam0> 10rhs? doubtful
[08:23] <U4YA> no matter how expensive and "fancy" it is ?
[08:23] <adam0> but I havent really looked at whats out right now
[08:23] <graywhite> do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing to tell your family/fr
[08:23] <KosheeN> I need a Server for 12 users using Photoshop and Quark, Font managment, Ant
[08:23] <adam0> my laptop gives me maybe 2 hrs
[08:24] <JailBlack> can someone recommend a great memory test i can put on a usb stick and ru
[08:24] <U4YA> graywhite it's up to you
[08:24] <U4YA> adam0 which one is it ??
[08:24] <graywhite> JailBlack why not just use memtest86+, doesnt require any operating syste
[08:24] <adam0> its older, a dell d6oo
[08:24] <graywhite> U4YA i know it's up to me, but i want some advice :P
[08:25] <graywhite> everythigns up to me, i'm freewilled :P
[08:25] <U4YA> graywhite people usually don't do it because let's just say you work hard and
[08:25] <adam0> graywhite, only tell them if they rely on you for money in some way
[08:25] <stikupkid> Had IE6 working, upgraded to IE7 and now when I strt IE7 it shuts down im
[08:25] <adam0> otherwise they dont need to know
[08:25] <graywhite> well what if they ask me and i say i dont wanna say. they'll also think w
[08:26] <adam0> nah, its your right to not tell them
[08:26] <adam0> just dont sound all mean when you say that
[08:26] <graywhite> like 'why dont you trust me enough to tell me, it's not like im gonna ask
[08:26] <U4YA> graywhite don't say "i don't wanna say", say it politley like "im making good
[08:26] <adam0> say its not a matter of trust, but a matter of privacy and ill thank you to r
[08:27] <graywhite> they'll ask why it's a matter or privacy 'whats the big deal?' what shoul
[08:27] <adam0> yeah, when people ask me that I dont wanna tell, i just say something vague l
[08:28] <U4YA> adam0 is right, well lemme tell you something, i was a teenager, i always wond
[08:28] <adam0> ask them why they wanna know so badly
[08:28] <graywhite> what about my girlfriend, should i tell her
[08:28] <adam0> not if shes the spend your money shopping type
[08:28] <adam0> actually
[08:28] <JailBlack> ok I just got the memtest for 'an installable package for creating a boot
[08:28] <graywhite> i dont wanna tell my best friend because i know he makes less and i've re
[08:28] <adam0> id say no unless you live together
[08:28] <graywhite> because no one wants to feel inferior
[08:28] <JailBlack> and is this a seperate executable I execute seperately onceI get into Fre
[08:29] <U4YA> graywhite ofcourse
[08:29] <graywhite> JailBlack ive only used the bootable cd memtest86
[08:29] <JailBlack> graywhite: thats what our culture is based off of..making ppl feel inferi
[08:29] <graywhite> should i tell my gf though?
[08:29] <JailBlack> so this best way to lose friends is to live in America
[08:29] <graywhite> lol
[08:29] <adam0> only if you live together
[08:29] <JailBlack> lol
[08:30] <U4YA> damn, im planning to move to the US, why the hell do I keep hearing bad things
[08:30] <JailBlack> i need to reboot to test this memtest
[08:30] <adam0> its human nature to want to feel better than others in what ways we can, the
[08:30] <JailBlack> because people suck here
[08:30] <JailBlack> money is only driving force
[08:31] <JailBlack> but even that is relative
[08:31] <U4YA> which state are you in if you don't mind me asking ?
[08:31] <JailBlack> if you get satellite television where you at and can make money, I say st
[08:31] <graywhite> california
[08:31] <JailBlack> Texas
[08:31] <adam0> ct
[08:31] <U4YA> nice, California is exactly where I wanna be :p
[08:31] <graywhite> one way people judge how m uch someone makes is by what car they drive an
[08:31] <JailBlack> someone asked me if I can go back to my country and get a job, I had to t
[08:32] <JailBlack> California is illegal immigrant capital of America as well
[08:32] <JailBlack> also too, there are alot of mexican and black gangs there
[08:32] <graywhite> i drive a very modest car and live in a one bedroom apt even though i can
[08:32] <JailBlack> and cost of licing sucks there
[08:32] <JailBlack> plus eartquakes
[08:32] <JailBlack> need to reboot
[08:32] <graywhite> gangs arent m uch of a problem unless you're a rival gang. sometimes they
[08:32] <JailBlack> test my usb stick and mem test
[08:32] <JailBlack> bbnl
[08:32] <U4YA> Texas has high cost of living ?
[08:32] <graywhite> women drivers are more dangerous
[08:33] <Lindy_> take this to #helpchat please
[08:33] <graywhite> ok
[08:36] <V_> hello, i am interested in downloading some files via IRC on this server. but i c
[08:36] <RBL> v_: No downloading help is offered here. See: http://irchelp.org/irchelp/securi
[08:36] <V_> are there any generic ones i should try?
[08:36] <V_> yeah i read that link
[08:37] <nand> do you know any francophonic room here
[08:37] <nand> ??
[08:40] <U4YA> anyone can predict what can happen to the dollar in the next months ??
[08:40] <MornStar> hyper inflation :P
[08:40] <b4mm> its gonnadepreciate further - buy gold now
[08:41] <U4YA> depreciate further ?? my god :D
[08:41] <RobsAweso> what are some good programs other than prime95 to stress test a quad core
[08:41] <b4mm> no matter how much the feds cut rates it will still tummel
[08:41] <U4YA> well, gold, unfortunately, it's too late to make some profit on it, cuz the cr
[08:42] <nand> hola! est ce qu il y a un coin ici où les gens parlent francais???
[08:42] <b4mm> is burnin any good?
[08:43] <U4YA> so more deprecation is coming you say ?
[08:44] <b4mm> yes sir
[08:44] <U4YA> depreciation
[08:44] <rhelic> Sweet, Firefox 3 beta 3 comes out later today, or midnight... and we should
[08:44] <U4YA> I'm buying a laptop from the us, for me it can make difference, should i wait
[08:44] <b4mm> i hope it can do my taxes for me
[08:45] <b4mm> wait
[08:45] <U4YA> lol
[08:45] <U4YA> btw, why are all the newer notebooks equiped with Vista, can't I opt for XP ?
[08:45] <b4mm> you could install XP over it
[08:46] <b4mm> most come with vista now
[08:46] <prajna> anyone here ever played entropia universe?
[08:46] <rhelic> U4YA: because that's what MS is pushing, soon XP will be totally phased out
[08:46] <U4YA> rhelic screw MS, i don't want shitty Vista, I have the right to use an older O
[08:46] <rhelic> U4YA: and despite public opinion, with the correct setup, Vista isn't "crap"
[08:47] <rhelic> U4YA: you have no right to anything
[08:47] <b4mm> everyone has a right
[08:47] <U4YA> so you're saying it could be rather good ?
[08:47] <b4mm> vista will freeze just like all the rest
[08:47] <U4YA> problem is that i don't wanna go through all that stupid OS change all over ag
[08:47] <nand> me abla fracis, where can i find people doing same..??
[08:48] <rhelic> U4YA: my Laptop uses Vista, after you disable Aero and the Widget bar, it's
[08:48] <U4YA> im getting this one http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-detai
[08:48] <U4YA> any advice?
[08:48] <phisher1> I have Aero still running on my laptop and vista runs like a charm
[08:48] <phisher1> sidebar though, definitelly gotta go
[08:48] <rhelic> phisher1: Aero murders 3d game perf, especially in a window
[08:48] <Eskaz> how can i see a channel info?
[08:48] <phisher1> no channel information is stored
[08:49] <phisher1> as you cannot register channels.
[08:49] <phisher1> rhelic: don't game on it
[08:49] <Eskaz> lol
[08:49] <U4YA> rhelic how good is your battery life ??
[08:49] <rhelic> U4YA: looks great, although there are equivilant ones for less money if you
[08:49] <rhelic> U4YA: horrible, I only have a 4 cell battery
[08:49] <rhelic> U4YA: that's not Vista's fault though... btw, Aero does murder your battery
[08:50] <pixil> 4 cell?!?!
[08:50] <rhelic> I bought it in the store, there wasn't a 9 cell there
[08:50] <rhelic> it's my wife's laptop anyways, and she always uses it plugged in
[08:51] <U4YA> equivilant ones for less money ? care to elaborate please ?
[08:51] <b4mm> check for open box ones
[08:51] <rhelic> hmm, this new Firefox 3 build changed the look of the browser buttons
[08:51] <rhelic> they're a little more iTunesy looking
[08:51] <b4mm> theres a half way decent acer i want for 399$ after rebate
[08:51] <U4YA> what exactly is an open box notebook ?
[08:51] <b4mm> recertified
[08:52] <rhelic> U4YA: just browse SlickDeals.net , no open box, rebate, nor refurb, just rea
[08:52] <U4YA> oh ok thanx
[08:52] <rhelic> there's usually 1 desktop and 1 laptop Dell deal every week, and if you see
[08:53] <phisher1> I'm going to buy a new wireless router tonight
[08:53] <b4mm> phisher1: why?
[08:53] <phisher1> been so long since I bought my di-524.. I don't know what to get
[08:53] <phisher1> giving my brother my di524
[08:53] <b4mm> ahh
[08:53] <rhelic> I need one too, I got a used one, it needs a reboot daily
[08:53] <phisher1> the wrt54gl sounds spiffy, but no local stores have any
[08:54] <phisher1> cam
[08:54] <phisher1> erm
[08:54] <phisher1> can't see myself buying an draft-N compatible router
[08:55] <phisher1> a) its still draft b) I don't have any N clients
[08:55] <rhelic> same here, and even if I get a N card, well my laptop is G and so is my Wii
[08:56] <rhelic> if I could only do N, that would be rad, this housing complex is VERY dense,
[08:57] <rhelic> I notice I'm the only guy not using the default channels, everybody is fight
[08:57] <ochos> can anyone tell me if this form could send a picture? ive tried <img> a
[08:57] <ochos> http://deadfake.com/Send.aspx
[08:58] <ochos> trying to send a joke fake email :P
[08:58] <phisher1> lame
[08:59] <ochos> whys that
[09:00] <U4YA> why don't notebooks have 7200rpm+ hdd's ?
[09:00] <phisher1> some do
[09:00] <U4YA> can't find one :(
[09:00] <LoDiDoDi> costs?
[09:00] <phisher1> i'm guessing the slower hdds use less power
[09:00] <LoDiDoDi> ahhh
[09:00] <U4YA> oh ok
[09:01] <nukleuz> runs hot
[09:01] <nukleuz> newegg has them
[09:01] <U4YA> can't i install a 10krpm hdd on a notebook :P ?
[09:03] <sparrw> I just got my 1099s for last year, made $16k. looks like im going to owe ta
[09:04] <U4YA> we all did :P
[09:04] <LoDiDoDi> I have 42k in deductions for my 1099's woot
[09:05] <U4YA> can someone please briefly explain what deductions exactly are ?
[09:05] <ochos> anyone know how one could include a pic in a deadfake fake email using this f
[09:05] <sparrw> income that you wont get taxed on, for various reasons
[09:05] <ochos> http://deadfake.com/Send.aspx
[09:05] <ochos> its a legit site
[09:05] <U4YA> such as business dinner, work car ??
[09:05] <U4YA> sorry, that's expenses not income
[09:05] <sparrw> yes, such as those
[09:06] <sparrw> you got income, which you spent on those expenses
[09:06] <sparrw> and thus you wont get taxed on that income
[09:06] <sparrw> unless youre in debt, all expenses are also income :)
[09:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[09:07] <LoDiDoDi> Every dinner where I have mentioned that I do IT service (j/k)
[09:08] <U4YA> how can you know which things are deductible ??
[09:08] <LoDiDoDi> expenses directly related to the business which you have earned income
[09:08] <LoDiDoDi> Ie self-employed is "the business"
[09:09] <U4YA> that's sensetive!
[09:09] <U4YA> somethings may seam business-relate to you, but not to uncle sam right :P ?
[09:09] <U4YA> seem*
[09:09] <LoDiDoDi> like that trip to hawaii
[09:09] <U4YA> looooool
[09:10] <LoDiDoDi> he doest care that i set up a POS system there, it seems suspicious
[09:10] <U4YA> what about a girlfriend :P
[09:11] <LoDiDoDi> as long as your not filing jointly with your wife
[09:11] <sparrw> i could probably lower my taxable income by about half if i seek out all my
[09:11] <sparrw> but is it worth the $300 id save? probably not
[09:11] <LoDiDoDi> I try not to get crazy sine I dont wanna be audited
[09:11] <LoDiDoDi> I play "by the books"
[09:11] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[09:12] <sparrw> im probably not going to take any deductions this year
[09:12] <sparrw> other than the standard deduction
[09:12] <U4YA> sparrw isn't this accountant's job ?
[09:12] <sparrw> my first pass "things i absolutely know i have records of" list of deduction
[09:13] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[09:13] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[09:13] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[09:13] <sparrw> id have to find twice as much paperwork for no improvment, and then twice th
[09:13] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[09:14] <sparrw> or i can just pay my $740 and like it
[09:14] <U4YA> how hard i is to operate a profitable business ?
[09:15] <sparrw> not very, as long as youre better at something than most of your competitors
[09:15] <U4YA> what about the myth of 100-hour weeks and endless street etc.
[09:15] <sparrw> depends on what you want to do
[09:16] <LoDiDoDi> getting a large enough customer base with ample work. I fix things so ther
[09:16] <sparrw> if i had a little more capital and motivation i could start a $500/mo side b
[09:16] <LoDiDoDi> sparrw: I get 500 emails that say i can do the same thing
[09:16] <U4YA> let's say you wanna run an internet business that you successfuly automated it
[09:18] <sparrw> U4YA: i think youre looking at it the wrong way. you dont "run an internet
[09:18] <LoDiDoDi> improve it
[09:18] <sparrw> ive got ideas and skills to sell
[09:18] <LoDiDoDi> but no "something" ?
[09:18] <U4YA> someone very close to me, makes about 200K (monthly), he's at the office only
[09:18] <sparrw> what does he do?
[09:18] <LoDiDoDi> crack dealer
[09:18] <sparrw> a car importer could easily accomplish that
[09:19] <U4YA> he wouldn't reveal much, but he said he was one of the early pioneers of lead
[09:19] <LoDiDoDi> sells mailing lists, or hes a spammer
[09:20] <U4YA> totally legal
[09:20] <U4YA> no spam, he has happy customers all over the globe
[09:20] <LoDiDoDi> he sells them the lists
[09:20] <LoDiDoDi> his customers are the spamers
[09:20] <sparrw> U4YA: step 1, find something people need that you can provide. step 2, char
[09:20] <U4YA> he said he helps people get more business
[09:20] <sparrw> that is how to run a successful business
[09:21] <sparrw> "early pioneers of lead generation" sounds like a spammer
[09:21] <sparrw> or a spam list distributor
[09:21] <U4YA> no, i know this guy personally, he's been in the business since 1998
[09:21] <sparrw> and?
[09:21] <sparrw> spam has been profitable since before then
[09:21] <U4YA> it took more than 7 yeas to start making that amount
[09:22] <U4YA> damn guys, why does it have to be spam ? can't you make good money legally??
[09:22] <sparrw> so he has gotten better at it
[09:22] <sparrw> sure you can make good money legally
[09:22] <sparrw> it just takes more effort or smarts or both
[09:22] <U4YA> you wanna read about him ??
[09:23] <LoDiDoDi> he most likely sells telephone or mailing lists
[09:23] <sparrw> he could also do data mining
[09:23] <sparrw> and sell the results
[09:23] <LoDiDoDi> exactly
[09:24] <U4YA> also, i know someone making similar amounts of money, he said he's in SEO :D
[09:24] <LoDiDoDi> get yer own thing
[09:24] <U4YA> world is full of rich Internet entrepreneurs
[09:24] <LoDiDoDi> you cant jsut say "Ya Id like to be one of those"
[09:24] <sparrw> i was a rich internet entrepreneur once...
[09:24] <sparrw> wasted the money
[09:24] <U4YA> been mindstorming ideas forever
[09:24] <LoDiDoDi> get yourself a "something" that people need and will pay for
[09:25] <sparrw> if i had some capital ive wanted for a while to start a business making vide
[09:25] <LoDiDoDi> and something that is better or unique than anyone elses something
[09:25] <sparrw> when the wii first came out i made wireless sensor bars and put them on ebay
[09:25] <LoDiDoDi> WII remotes
[09:25] <U4YA> i always seek advice, all i ever get "you can't make money on the net anymore,
[09:25] <sparrw> and rechargable battery packs for wii remotes
[09:26] <sparrw> but to start that business i need equipment, and parts, and time
[09:26] <U4YA> sparrw you obviously have an engineering degree don't you ?
[09:26] <sparrw> U4YA: no
[09:26] <sparrw> no degree
[09:26] <LoDiDoDi> i always seek advice,..., "you're not the type of person that can run a bu
[09:26] <sparrw> 20 years of hobby experience with computers and electronics
[09:26] <U4YA> LoDiDoDi unfortunately yes
[09:26] <sparrw> they might be right
[09:26] <rhelic> LoDiDoDi: Motivation trumps everything, if you want to do it, and want to do
[09:26] <LoDiDoDi> there might be something to it unfortuantly
[09:26] <U4YA> the one thing useful i heard is "do something you're passionate about"
[09:27] <rhelic> LoDiDoDi: you could have said the same thing about Bill Gates 30yrs ago
[09:27] <sparrw> a friend of mine has Lucas' Theory Of Being The Man. "not everyone is entit
[09:27] <rhelic> some punk kid that just wrote BASIC
[09:27] <LoDiDoDi> you can not just pick something and be passionate about it and expect it w
[09:27] <rhelic> LoDiDoDi: that is why you'll never suceede
[09:27] <U4YA> LoDiDoDi i know
[09:27] <LoDiDoDi> I "made it" when I was 25
[09:27] <n00b-> does efnet support vhost?
[09:28] <sparrw> n00b-: define "vhost"
[09:28] <U4YA> what he meant is that you're not gonna succeed doing something you hate or not
[09:28] <n00b-> a host mask
[09:28] <rhelic> n00b-: no
[09:28] <U4YA> LoDiDoDi "made it" ?
[09:28] <LoDiDoDi> rhelic: How many million are you worth?
[09:28] <RBL> services: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your
[09:28] <rhelic> LoDiDoDi: .0000000000000001
[09:28] <LoDiDoDi> U4: my first mill
[09:28] <rhelic> LoDiDoDi: this isn't a place to come gloat, take it to #helpchat
[09:28] <LoDiDoDi> <rhelic> LoDiDoDi: that is why you'll never suceede
[09:28] <U4YA> congrats on the success my friend :)
[09:29] <LoDiDoDi> ty, a lot of hard work
[09:29] <rhelic> although right now I work for myself
[09:29] <LoDiDoDi> and luck
[09:29] <rhelic> and my billrate varies, but for the past few weeks, $60/hr
[09:29] <LoDiDoDi> IT service?
[09:29] <U4YA> LoDiDoDi can you go to helpchat please, i could use some of your advice :)
[09:29] <sparrw> How does one go about getting a small business loan? I have an idea for a b
[09:30] <LoDiDoDi> you typically need 20% and a business plan
[09:30] <rhelic> sparrw: wrote up a details business proposal and present it to the bank, you
[09:30] <LoDiDoDi> and 20%
[09:30] <rhelic> sparrw: write up all your financial data, expenses, product cost, figure it
[09:30] <U4YA> wow, this is the last place i expected to find good biz advice
[09:31] <rhelic> U4YA: and you need to show there's a market for it
[09:31] <LoDiDoDi> convince them "this will work"
[09:31] <U4YA> got a question though, do you guys developd any health problems given you're s
[09:32] <LoDiDoDi> my neck bothers me sometimes
[09:32] <rhelic> U4YA: yes
[09:32] <U4YA> nothing serious ?
[09:32] <rhelic> yes
[09:32] <LoDiDoDi> depends how many porn popups appear that day too
[09:32] <LoDiDoDi> :)
[09:32] <rhelic> the common ones are: carpal tunnel (eat bananas), DVT (eat sunflower seeds)
[09:32] <U4YA> can you do it so you don't get any health problems, i mean i don't wanna make
[09:32] <copeland> dvt?
[09:33] <rhelic> Deep Vein Thrombrosis (sp?)
[09:33] <LoDiDoDi> blood clots
[09:33] <copeland> haha wow
[09:33] <copeland> intense
[09:33] <sparrw> U4YA: its bad for your eyes if you don't do preventative exercises
[09:33] <U4YA> like ?
[09:33] <rhelic> if you type a lot, you should install WorkRave.org to prevent carpal tunnel
[09:33] <rhelic> copeland: I have it
[09:33] <LoDiDoDi> I typically walk/stretch every half hour or so
[09:33] <sparrw> every 30 minutes im using the PC i take a break and focus on something far a
[09:33] <copeland> that's tough sounding.. sorry to hear that
[09:34] <rhelic> sparr_: lots of short breaks are better than lesser longer breaks
[09:34] <U4YA> so, working as an internet entrepreneur isn't like traditional business owners
[09:34] <U4YA> i mean you can just take a break, go play game, watch porn while working isn't
[09:35] <LoDiDoDi> but you get less done
[09:35] <LoDiDoDi> prcrasination is a lot like masturbation, in the end your only f**king you
[09:35] <U4YA> maybe because i can't understand what you'll be doing when running a site
[09:36] <rhelic> yea, the problem with working for myself is, you just can't work a normal 9-
[09:36] <rhelic> it's too easy to goof off (I'm here now!)
[09:36] <LoDiDoDi> ditto
[09:36] <U4YA> rhelic, for me it's better
[09:36] <sparrw> U4YA: i think youre blind... you keep talking about "running a site". that
[09:37] <U4YA> sparrw i know i'm not blind, sorry, i don't have as much information about thi
[09:37] <LoDiDoDi> My 10 year old nephew "runs a site" but not a business
[09:37] <phlux> My eight-year-old prodigy neice is a billionaire from her website.
[09:37] <sparrw> working as an "internet entrepreneur" is exactly like being a traditional bu
[09:37] <phlux> </sarcasm>
[09:38] <U4YA> oh ok thanks for enlightining me
[09:40] <pixil> I love how people think that masking a swear word is any different than not.
[09:40] <copeland> haha yeah what the F**K..
[09:41] <pixil> That was not an invitation, copeland. :p
[09:41] <rhelic> You've got to be p**ling my l*g
[09:41] <copeland> lol
[09:41] <copeland> jk pix
[09:41] <pixil> ;_)
[09:42] <V_> what is a trigger?
[09:42] <copeland> for what V_ ?
[09:42] <V_> an essay
[09:42] <pixil> V_: A trigger in an essay?
[09:42] <pixil> O.o
[09:43] <V_> well if one were to say downloading, it might be construed that this person is e
[09:43] <Bredes> anybody can help me ?
[09:43] <rhelic> Bredes: JUST ASK
[09:43] <pixil> V_: But homework is against our rules too. :-)
[09:43] <Bredes> how to register nick in here
[09:44] <V_> this is an essay for a charity
[09:44] <copeland> haha he found a loophole
[09:44] <pixil> V_: A trigger is a command that initiaties an action with whatever is listeni
[09:44] <RBL> services: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your
[09:44] <pixil> copeland: Not really. If I didn't care any less, I could have continued to e
[09:45] <Bredes> thx for information
[09:45] <V_> is there a command to display who is listening and for what?
[09:46] <pixil> V_: Not something we can answer. It is completely dependant on the channel,
[09:46] <hirogen1> h iall
[09:46] <hirogen1> hi al
[09:46] <hirogen1> hi all
[09:46] <pixil> ...
[09:46] <hirogen1> ...
[09:46] <V_> okay i understand. seems very much light a fight club mentality. 1st rule do not
[09:46] <pixil> V_: Not at all. It truly depends.
[09:47] <V_> i mean outside of #help of course
[09:47] <pixil> Generally speaking, the bot that listens for triggers will announce their usa
[09:47] <pixil> But this is purely contingent on the type of bot, the bot, the channel...
[09:47] <fluor_> anybody know of any software that can remove redundant characters from RTF d
[09:47] <V_> sure, the one i'm interested in appears to not announce
[09:47] <pixil> fluor_: "redundant" ?
[09:48] <LoDiDoDi> redundant?
[09:48] <pixil> V_: Sorry. You'll have to ask there.
[09:48] <pixil> No clue :-)
[09:48] <V_> ty for your help guys. i appreciate you bending the rules a little for me : )
[09:48] <Duturs> hello
[09:48] <LoDiDoDi> what do you mean by redundant?
[09:48] <Duturs> !list
[09:48] <LoDiDoDi> bahaha
[09:48] <pixil> Duturs: We don't have bots in here.
[09:49] <LoDiDoDi> lol
[09:49] <khruschev> what'd cause a situation where your entire LAN can only access certain we
[09:49] <LoDiDoDi> kikck yer sysadmins butt
[09:49] <sparrw> khruschev: being in china
[09:49] <fluor_> well like in HTML you have <b></b> where it's obvous that that's
[09:49] <pixil> khruschev: Being in Asia.
[09:49] <khruschev> like, i can go to www.google.ca
[09:49] <fluor_> so <b></b> is redundant
[09:49] <sparrw> fluor_: that is not redundant
[09:50] <khruschev> but if i try to go to cnn, something like that.. i might get the little h
[09:50] <LoDiDoDi> replace <b></b> with nothing
[09:50] <sparrw> fluor_: first of all, you are using "redundant" incorrectly... and secondly
[09:50] <pixil> fluor_: Those are formatting codes. If you don't want formatting in the docu
[09:50] <khruschev> if i do a tracert on it, it gets so many hops and then times out
[09:50] <khruschev> would that be just an internet thing? a router couldn't do that could it
[09:50] <fluor_> i know pixil: however, word still saves rtf-documents with a lot of redundan
[09:50] <pixil> khruschev: Your router? Not necessarily.
[09:50] <LoDiDoDi> <b> is not an object with an innerhtml property
[09:50] <pixil> fluor_: That stuff isn't redundant stuff, but I agree.
[09:51] <khruschev> pixil: i'm stuck because our ISP says 'everything's fine' and the company
[09:51] <khruschev> yet the internet mostly doesn't work
[09:51] <pixil> khruschev: Right. There are a lot of routers involved in connecting to a web
[09:51] <khruschev> yeah
[09:51] <fluor_> they might repeat font names and such in the middle of a word, whilst the sa
[09:51] <pixil> khruschev: dls reports has a "downed routers" tool.
[09:51] <LoDiDoDi> get anpother connection or router
[09:51] <pixil> It might be listed there.
[09:51] <sparrw> LoDiDoDi: you and your standards-compliant browser implementation can suck i
[09:51] <pixil> khruschev: DSL or Cable?
[09:51] <khruschev> DSL
[09:52] <khruschev> you wouldn't think there could be that many routers down though that 90%
[09:52] <LoDiDoDi> dparrw: its not my rules those are the facts there is not property of inne
[09:52] <rhelic> fluor_: so why do you care about the exact syntax?
[09:52] <pixil> Are you sure your DSL isn't going down and coming back up so quickly that you
[09:52] <khruschev> yeah
[09:52] <sparrw> fluor_: i would suggest using any number of html parsers to build a tree out
[09:52] <khruschev> i can totally go to google
[09:52] <khruschev> and google anything
[09:52] <khruschev> and that works
[09:52] <khruschev> but if i click a link... dead
[09:52] <LoDiDoDi> your ISP
[09:53] <khruschev> it doesn't even resolve some hosts, like microsoft.com, etc
[09:53] <fluor_> well well. i guess nobody knew :) thx anyways
[09:53] <LoDiDoDi> ya we're tards
[09:53] <pixil> fluor_: Like I said, quit using the document software you're using if you don
[09:53] <pixil> fluor_: And, be sure to request a refund on your way out and we'll make sure
[09:53] <pixil> :-)
[09:54] <LoDiDoDi> is <flour_> a redundant tag?
[09:54] <Vucjak> dffg
[09:54] <Vucjak> hi
[09:55] <LoDiDoDi> <flour_>"This space left intentionally blank"</flour_>
[09:55] <fluor_> it's outlook signatures, and they are RTF. and i would like to make it small
[09:56] <LoDiDoDi> paste special as unformatted text
[09:56] <pixil> fluor_: pastebin.com an example
[09:57] <ducch> i need to talk to paypal's customer support
[09:57] <ducch> and its asking for my phone number and it doesnt fucking recognize what i pre
[09:57] <fluor_> Yeah i know about that. still word adds strange stuff which i've successfull
[09:57] <imogen> there's diamonds on all the street signs in my town. anyone have any idea wh
[09:58] <rhelic> if it's on the side of the road, it stands for bikes
[09:58] <pixil> imogen: Perhaps the folks that manage it are tight-asses? :-)
[09:58] <rhelic> or if it's the left lane, it might be shared commuter lane only
[09:58] <rhelic> err I mean car pooling
[09:58] <pixil> Good point on the bike lane thing.
[09:58] <pixil> Those are specific color, too, aren't they?
[09:58] <pixil> Black?
[09:59] <rhelic> I forget
[10:02] <imogen> the signs aren't shaped like diamonds though
[10:02] <imogen> just have a small icon of a diamond on them, i think it's black
[10:03] <pixil> yeah
[10:03] <pixil> bike lane
[10:03] <pixil> Is there a "bike lane" ? :p
[10:03] <pixil> http://www.ci.missoula.mt.us/publicworks/images/Image14.gif
[10:03] <rhelic> yes
[10:03] <ducch> can somebody PLEASE help me here?
[10:03] <rhelic> as in bicycle, not motor bike
[10:03] <pixil> ducch: other than paypal? No.
[10:03] <rhelic> we have them here in NY
[10:03] <pixil> ducch: Do you not have a touch-tone phone?
[10:04] <ducch> i have a regular phone.
[10:04] <ducch> i cant believe i need some special phone to call customer support!
[10:04] <rhelic> what's a "regular phone" ?
[10:04] <ducch> some wireless uniden
[10:04] <rhelic> special? touch tone phones have been out for 20yrs or so, they cost $6 at w
[10:04] <pixil> ducch: You don't. A touch-tone phone is a "normal phone".
[10:04] <rhelic> ducch: that's touch tone
[10:04] <imogen> yeah the sign doesnt have that diamond symbol, it looks more like a drawing
[10:05] <ducch> i called paypal (at 1-402-935-2050 if it matters), then it asked me to enter
[10:05] <pixil> ducch: If paypal's system doesn't work, how do you expect that we can help yo
[10:05] <rhelic> imogen: then it's the "rich people only" lane
[10:05] <rhelic> ducch: there is a 888 or 800 number
[10:05] <pixil> ducch: Did you include area code?
[10:05] <ducch> i used my 972-xx-xxxxxxx number
[10:05] <imogen> lol
[10:05] <ducch> "i didnt understand, please ..."
[10:05] <sparrw> ducch: thats not an american number?
[10:05] <imogen> it looks like this on the signs http://www.am-diamonds.com/images/anatomy_di
[10:05] <ducch> i entered it again with 0972, etc'
[10:06] <ducch> sparrw so if im not from the us i cant get phone support?
[10:06] <sparrw> possibly not
[10:06] <sparrw> paypal is horrible for many reasons
[10:06] <ducch> i dont believe this.
[10:06] <sparrw> stop using them
[10:06] <ducch> i need them to release my account i have money stuck there
[10:06] <sparrw> good luck
[10:06] <ducch> besides i dont really have any alternatives to recieving money.
[10:06] <sparrw> they steal tens of thousands of dollars a year by locking peoples accounts
[10:06] <rhelic> sparr_: I'd hardly say Paypal is "horrible" a pita sometimes, but there's a
[10:06] <nukleuz> paypal locked my $500
[10:06] <nukleuz> and still fighting it right now
[10:06] <sparrw> rhelic: inertia
[10:07] <imogen> never keep your money in paypal, instantly take it out anytime you have a pa
[10:07] <rhelic> sparr_: true
[10:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[10:07] <b4mm> why do they lock peoples accounts?
[10:07] <nukleuz> i did and it was returned
[10:07] <ducch> then they put you in a minus and charge your cc, whats the difference
[10:07] <imogen> they'll lock your money if someone you did buisness with is under investigat
[10:07] <nukleuz> saying my bank acc didnt exist
[10:07] <ducch> and like i said, are there any alternatives to recieve money online?
[10:07] <sparrw> b4mm: http://paypalsucks.org/graphics/PPS-Cartoon1.gif
[10:07] <b4mm> heh
[10:08] <sparrw> ducch: there are many
[10:08] <pixil> Google has a service.
[10:08] * jumpie2 is now known as Jumpie
[10:08] <nukleuz> google checkout i think
[10:08] <pixil> You can get international support through their "support center", but I don't
[10:09] <sparrw> western union has a service
[10:09] <ducch> google checkout only allows you to spend money online, not actually recieve m
[10:09] <sparrw> ducch: where do you think the money goes?
[10:09] <ducch> pixil thats why i called their US number.
[10:09] <pixil> Yeah.
[10:09] <pixil> I can see your frustration. That is ridiculous.
[10:09] <nukleuz> ducch wrong
[10:09] <Joops> Aloha. I have to accept or decline the job offer today. How does this sound?
[10:09] <ducch> sparrw WU does the job quite well for large ammounts, i cant really use WU fo
[10:09] <rhelic> Paypal hung me up a bit when I moved and switched CCs, although they waited
[10:10] <pixil> Joops: Did they provide you with an offer?
[10:10] <ducch> paypal is ideal for that, just not when they freeze your account every now an
[10:10] <rhelic> despite, after some faxing, problems, and 3 phone calls, it was resolved
[10:10] <Joops> pixil yes their standard starting hourly pay. im just a low paying hourly per
[10:10] <nukleuz> yeah they had me send in some id's
[10:10] <ducch> they asked me to upload utility bill, though its all in hebrew i cant really
[10:10] <ducch> i uploaded 4 full documets, incl. driver license, phone bill, cc bill etc'
[10:10] <pixil> Joops: You should simply counter their offer. Don't ask if you can counter.
[10:11] <pixil> You can counter. :-)
[10:11] <Joops> pixil: With such a pay drop I am planning on accepting what I can get, moving
[10:11] <ducch> and their websites says "waiting for your response"
[10:11] <Joops> pixil: I know saying no will be a good way to get more money, but with my pla
[10:11] <sparrw> ive got many negative-balance paypal accounts
[10:11] <sparrw> any time i get scammed through paypal and they refuse to handle the problem
[10:11] <rhelic> ducch: they want to see you're legit address
[10:12] <pixil> Joops: Then you're not being honest with saying "I'm willing to accept if you
[10:12] <rhelic> ducch: uploading takes about 2-3 days, faxing is useless, don't do ti
[10:12] <ducch> rhelic its still in hebrew, lol, and i uploaded everything they asked and eve
[10:12] <pixil> Joops: If you're not going to be there long, don't increase your counter-offe
[10:12] <ducch> ive uploaded it all on the 25th
[10:12] <pixil> It's a tough judgement call. ;-)
[10:12] <ducch> thats a week ago.
[10:12] <rhelic> Joops: nasty, but if you must
[10:12] <Joops> I would stay there long if i got a decent pay comparable to what i get here,
[10:12] <sparrw> ducch: there is a reason most countries have laws about how banks can operat
[10:13] <rhelic> Joops: I've been working for myself and some contract stuff popped up, but i
[10:13] <ducch> sparrw do you know of any online alternative?
[10:13] <sparrw> ducch: have you ever considered postal money orders? they arent expensive,
[10:13] <sparrw> ducch: get a merchant account, accept credit cards.
[10:14] <sparrw> hundreds of companies to set that up with, with fees lower than paypal
[10:14] <ducch> postal merchant account?
[10:14] <Joops> so if i dont plan to stay there long and leave after i settle in, you suggest
[10:14] <ducch> i really prefer something that keeps your money in your pocket
[10:14] <sparrw> uhm
[10:14] <ducch> unlike paypal that chargebacks every fucking time..
[10:14] <sparrw> stop mixing my sentences
[10:15] <ducch> huh?
[10:15] <rhelic> Joops: you're going to burn a bridge no matter what
[10:15] <rhelic> Joops: imho, companies can often pay a little more, if you want, ask for a t
[10:16] <sparrw> i didnt say anything about "postal merchant account"
[10:16] <rhelic> I once asked for 30% more than they pay their current guys, and gotten it
[10:16] <sparrw> i said postal money orders. then i said a merchant account. two separate t
[10:16] <ducch> whats a merchant account then
[10:16] <rhelic> sparr_: you ladies need to take it in the alley
[10:17] <sparrw> a merchant account is an account with a card services company. they process
[10:17] <sparrw> if you want more info, come to #helpchat
[10:18] <Joops> rhelic I would be happy with a 10% increase, just 1.25 more. thats split betw
[10:18] <LW> joops yo uneed to move thi sout of here, it's getting real old now
[10:18] <sparrw> Joops: uhm, youre negotiating a $12.50/hr job?
[10:19] <LoDiDoDi> make a list of accomplishments and take to your boss and ask for more
[10:19] <LoDiDoDi> lol
[10:19] <LW> rhelic he's going to milk you dry on this give it a break
[10:19] <Joops> lol yes i get 14.50 here they want 12 there due to standard of living
[10:19] <LW> joops read!!!
[10:20] <LoDiDoDi> #hlpchat
[10:20] <LoDiDoDi> e
[10:20] <ducch> the thing with paypal is people dont need to give your their credit card info
[10:20] <sparrw> Joops: and is that a fair cost of living adjustment? some places $10 is bet
[10:21] <sparrw> ill take my $25 in nashville over $40 in NYC
[10:22] <Jumpie> heh no place is flat across the board
[10:22] <sparrw> dont think just because its going down from 14.50 to 12.00 that youre taking
[10:22] <LoDiDoDi> ^?!
[10:23] <LoDiDoDi> COLA
[10:25] <LoDiDoDi> ocst of living adjustment
[10:29] <sparrw> if rent and food is half the price in the new town, then 14.50->12.00 is
[10:30] <KhaOZ> In my Event log, i see this message repeated a lot, and i've had some crashes
[10:30] <KhaOZ> how can i find out which is "HardDisk2"?
[10:31] <KhaOZ> says D at the end, does that mean the D drive?
[10:31] <sparrw> probably
[10:31] <Joops> sparrw, I figured, at the lower pay, I will take home $160 less a month (NV h
[10:31] <KhaOZ> anyone know for sure?
[10:32] <Joops> sounds like your D drive to me
[10:32] <KhaOZ> then i have these other errors "Flpydisk"
[10:32] <KhaOZ> those ones are actual red errors, others were just yellow warnings
[10:33] <KhaOZ> i don't even have a floppy drive installed
[10:33] <KhaOZ> so i dunno what that is
[10:33] <sparrw> Joops: sounds like about a break even then. id say still ask for more, but
[10:34] <Joops> sparr_: that's what they tell me. Thats why they say Big Island pays more tha
[10:34] <KhaOZ> is there a good reliable prorgam out there to check the life of my hard dirve
[10:34] <Joops> I have to call today. Whats the best way to try ask for more money
[10:34] <KhaOZ> to see if it's the drive
[10:34] <Joops> without ruining the chance of the job
[10:35] <KhaOZ> oh, this error says "\Device\Harddisk2\DP(1)0-0+7."
[10:35] <Treval> I am severaly pissed at BattleField 2. I just bought the game for 60 bucks a
[10:35] <KhaOZ> so maybe it's not the D drive, since that one says Harddisk2\DP etc
[10:35] <sparrw> KhaOZ: you probably only have a pagefile on one drive. whichever drive it i
[10:36] <KhaOZ> how do i figure out WHAT the problem is, so i can figure out how to fix it th
[10:37] <sparrw> in windows? i have no clue. find some hard drive diagnostic tools
[10:37] <LoDiDoDi> if you have bad sectors or something life is usually limited
[10:37] <LoDiDoDi> nothing is going to say 23 days etc
[10:38] <LoDiDoDi> and there most likely is nothing you can do
[10:39] <KhaOZ> how do i know if i do or not
[10:40] <KhaOZ> have a bad sector
[10:40] <LoDiDoDi> right click my computer | manage | disk managemnt
[10:40] <LoDiDoDi> check your disk
[10:42] <KhaOZ> when you say check them
[10:42] <KhaOZ> you mean just see if it says "healthy"?
[10:42] <KhaOZ> or is there something in there i need to run
[10:42] <Jumpie> hehe time warner charges tornado victims homes for damaged equipment
[10:42] <Jumpie> wtf are they smoking
[10:46] <Boylett> how do u register a channel?
[10:47] <Jumpie> u dont
[10:47] <Boylett> o
[10:47] <Sculptor_> not on this network
[10:47] <Boylett> k
[10:48] <Joops> whats the best way to ask for more money when i call them back to accept a jo
[10:50] <LW> joops use your own brain this time you are a big boy now!
[10:50] <Joops> kinda scary to think that
[10:50] <LW> it's old the way you milk everything to the limits
[10:53] <john-l> why do videos keep pausing on youtube sometimes
[10:54] <john-l> is that an error by the uploader/coder
[10:54] <copeland> is the video fully buffered?
[10:56] <john-l> i dunno but some videos run fine
[10:56] <john-l> even when not fully loaded/buffered or whatever
[10:57] <benK^_^> !ping
[10:58] <benK^_^> Hi i need help
[10:59] <bassgoon> just ask
[11:00] <benK^_^> This is my first time join to efnet.how i can register my nick?
[11:00] <benK^_^> This is my first time join to efnet.how i can register my nick?
[11:00] <RBL> benk^_^: You cannot register nicknames or channels on EFNet. For an explanation
[11:01] <benK^_^> Heem ic..
[11:02] <benK^_^> So, if my nick use with somebody else,how i can use?
[11:02] <bassgoon> you can't
[11:02] <gotpunk> you cant
[11:02] <phisher1> try going to the URL
[11:03] <benK^_^> Iam so sorry.iam chat useing handphone.so i cant browsing and chating in on
[11:05] * Disconnected
[11:05] * Attempting to rejoin channel #Help
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[11:05] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
[11:05] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Fri Feb 01 10:07:15
[11:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[11:09] <LBIguy> anyone know where i can get a pal to nts converter?
[11:10] * Aphee is now known as Aphy
[11:11] <phisher1> LBIguy: http://vcdhelp.com
[11:11] <phisher1> ntsc*
[11:19] <imogen> if recyling takes energy is it really worth recyling bottles instead of just
[11:20] <sllide> what is bb code for image with link
[11:20] <bizinichi> you're thinking short term costs, sure its a pain in the ass, but in the
[11:21] <bizinichi> sort of like economies of scale idea
[11:21] <bizinichi> plus we get to re use our shit instead of investing in projects to create
[11:21] <bizinichi> at least we salvage some of what we use with recycling
[11:22] <sllide> ...
[11:22] <bizinichi> sllide, bb code is used on forums
[11:22] <imogen> if you're on salary do you have less rights to say 'no i can't work saturday
[11:22] <sllide> yeah i know
[11:22] <sllide> i dint ask where to use it :p
[11:22] <bizinichi> it takes the form of [url=http://www.google.com] my link [/url] or [img=w
[11:23] <sllide> k
[11:23] <sllide> tnx
[11:23] <bizinichi> also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bb_code
[11:23] <bizinichi> [b] is for bold, [i] for italics
[11:23] <bizinichi> and so on
[11:28] <PyccKuu> sveiki'
[11:29] <PyccKuu> hi
[11:29] * PyccKuu slaps Osc around a bit with a large trout
[11:30] <RcHaCk> hey
[11:30] <PyccKuu> Hey
[11:31] <phisher1> PyccKuu: do you need something?
[11:40] * cloneman is now known as c|oneman
[11:44] <Chrisglie> Is there a way to zoom in pictures on web pages without right clicking on
[11:44] <MrPockets> soooo
[11:45] <Mafaioz> Chrisglie with scripts
[11:45] <MrPockets> is openoffice 2.3 compatable with .docX formats?
[11:45] <Mafaioz> or you can use windows magnifyer
[11:46] <Chrisglie> Not possible with Mozilla Firefox?
[11:46] <Mafaioz> probably some addons
[11:46] <Metshrine> no, its not compatible with .docx
[11:46] <Mafaioz> look at theyr site
[11:46] <Mafaioz> its plenty addons
[11:47] <Mafaioz> Chrisglie if you can find one, give me url =)
[11:48] <grendel-> hi
[11:49] <grendel-> im trying to view .avi files, ive tried with different players, divx playe
[11:49] <grendel-> advice appreciated
[11:49] <Mafaioz> VLC
[11:49] <Mafaioz> Video lan
[11:49] <Mafaioz> www.videolan.org
[11:49] <Mafaioz> it plays everything
[11:50] <grendel-> k
[11:50] <grendel-> thx
[11:56] <bizinichi> vlc is a killer app
[12:00] * KosheeN is now known as Kosh|Away
[12:01] <khar> anyone know of an ide that'll help me make motif gui's?
[12:02] <Jivedude> Anyone know of a program that can make lists of the contents of CDs and DV
[12:03] <khar> Jivedude: "ls"
[12:04] <iNToIT> Jivedude http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=catalog+cd+dvd
[12:04] <grendel-> didnt work
[12:04] <grendel-> maybe the files are corrupt
[12:04] <grendel-> :/
[12:05] <iNToIT> grendel- perhaps. download gspot and find out what codec is needed
[12:05] <iNToIT> but if vlc doesn't play it.. :|
[12:05] <Mafaioz> grendel-, the vlc should work, so then check the files
[12:05] <LoDiDoDi> beowulf
[12:06] <grendel-> gspot says error reading file: data error cyclic redudancy check
[12:06] <grendel-> wtf?
[12:06] <iNToIT> damaged file
[12:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[12:09] <Mafaioz> grendel- delete the file
[12:09] <Mafaioz> download a new one, from another location
[12:17] <songokou> someone direct me to a sports channel
[12:17] <songokou> i need help on a bmx bike
[12:30] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! What is a free/opensource telnet client for win64 with more gui t
[12:31] <phisher1> putty
[12:31] <K_Dallas> thanks phisher1
[12:31] <phisher1> yup
[12:32] <K_Dallas> it says win32 but i presume it would run on win64 as well. right?
[12:32] <phisher1> give it a shot
[12:32] <eby> hi room
[12:32] <K_Dallas> ok
[12:33] <eby> it it possible to have a bot somehow here on efnet (in a private chan) ?
[12:33] <phisher1> sure
[12:33] <JKaRcOkQ> hey, quick question...my MS word XP (or whatever the title was for the one
[12:35] <Sonicandt> m
[12:35] <ial> JKaRcOkQ: tools, options, file locations, autorecover files (shows the director
[12:36] <eby> phisher1 i get a strange Banned: Temporary D-line 14400 min. - (r29/4412) Drone
[12:36] <ial> hopefully you had word open for the amount of time set for it to autorecover (i
[12:36] <eby> any thoughs ?
[12:37] <phisher1> eby: the IP you are using was used before by someone with an infected PC
[12:37] <phisher1> it may be you.
[12:38] <phisher1> either that or you had a bunch of connections open at the same time to efn
[12:39] <eby> phisher1 should i really wait 14400 min?
[12:39] <eby> sounds long to me :p
[12:39] <phisher1> eby: that ban is only for that one server most likely
[12:40] <phisher1> eby: just do as you did, and use a different server
[12:40] <eby> u mean not for entire efnet
[12:40] <phisher1> correct
[12:40] <eby> but i set it to efnet.net
[12:40] <phisher1> irc.efnet.net is a round robin for several efnet servers
[12:40] <eby> is this a global one, meaning it dispatches to other urls ?
[12:40] <RBL> eby: EFNet Server List: http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers -phisher1 (9)
[12:40] <eby> round robin oook
[12:41] <eby> thkn
[12:41] <eby> thanks *
[12:41] <phisher1> yup
[12:53] <Spec11> I have some HiRes pics of the moutains I took and would like to add them to
[12:54] <eby> thanks bunch phisher1 i can now track what i needed on my encoder server
[12:54] <eby> that was easy, but usefull :p
[13:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[13:09] <Tropic-Ll> does anyone know, if your heart stops, how long does it take for you to l
[13:10] <eby> id say way less than 30 secs
[13:11] <c|oneman> I think most people that have a heart attack it doesnt actually stop right
[13:11] <eby> but i think it does not stop at all generally, chaotic behavior in most case be
[13:11] <eby> yeah
[13:11] <c|oneman> right thats true
[13:11] <c|oneman> it pumps randomly and doesnt get blood anywhere useful
[13:11] <Lindy_> ummm
[13:11] * Lindy_ points to the topic
[13:12] <c|oneman> I doubt someone's having a heart attack...
[13:13] <jackal^> Lindy_, can you check if a channel still has score for chanfix?
[13:15] <Tropic-Ll> heart attack is completely different from cardiac arrest
[13:16] <Tropic-Ll> a person can stay alive and conscious during a heart attack for hours
[13:17] <JKaRcOkQ> ial i see the directory......but when i goto documents and settings folder
[13:17] <JKaRcOkQ> how can i get to it?
[13:17] <modogo> hi
[13:17] <modogo> i have a question
[13:17] <JKaRcOkQ> nm i got to it
[13:17] <JKaRcOkQ> lets see if its there
[13:17] <modogo> i know mac addresses are used to identify computers on the internet and for
[13:18] <JKaRcOkQ> hey, quick question...my MS word XP (or whatever the title was for the one
[13:18] <modogo> i want to know if a malicious user could do any harm with that information.
[13:19] <pixil> modogo: MAC address information *COULD* be used malitiously.
[13:19] <pixil> JKaRcOkQ: Search google for the extension used for auto save files (I don't r
[13:20] <pixil> JKaRcOkQ: Then, search your disk for all files with that extension.
[13:20] <modogo> sorry what?
[13:20] <modogo> how so
[13:21] <pixil> I would be teaching you how to be malitious, if I told you.
[13:21] <pixil> :-)
[13:21] <modogo> :/
[13:21] <modogo> heh
[13:22] <pixil> In the least, the user could do something malitious by making it look like yo
[13:22] <pixil> Does that answer your question a little better?
[13:22] <JKaRcOkQ> ok i found the files
[13:22] <JKaRcOkQ> .asd
[13:22] <JKaRcOkQ> how do i open em?
[13:22] <modogo> think so
[13:22] <pixil> JKaRcOkQ: Office 2007?
[13:23] <JKaRcOkQ> no
[13:23] <JKaRcOkQ> the one before
[13:23] <pixil> Are you sure it's asd?
[13:23] <JKaRcOkQ> yes
[13:23] <JKaRcOkQ> 100%
[13:23] <pixil> You should be able to just double-click them and word should open them.
[13:24] <JKaRcOkQ> perfect
[13:24] <JKaRcOkQ> worked
[13:24] <JKaRcOkQ> thanks a ton!!! :P
[13:26] <pixil> Awesome :-)
[13:26] <Chrisglie> Ok, if someone can find the answer to the name of the flying ram in the s
[13:27] <mrpockets> fellas
[13:27] <mrpockets> ive got a 320 gig sATA here with two partitions on it.
[13:28] <mrpockets> one 20 gig partition for XP, and the rest is just storage
[13:28] <mrpockets> I need to reinstall windows on the first partition, but the installers on
[13:29] <pixil> MrPockets: Did you use the Windows software RAID to create the two partitions
[13:29] <ial> Chrisglie: Chrysomallos
[13:30] <pixil> the heck is the name of that tool?
[13:30] <mrpockets> RAID
[13:30] <mrpockets> no
[13:30] <mrpockets> I dont believe so
[13:30] <mrpockets> when i installed windows, i just created two partitions, installed the OS
[13:31] <Chrisglie> ial: How the /heck/ did you find that out?
[13:32] <pixil> MrPockets: So, when you boot into the installed windows, and you go into disk
[13:32] <pixil> (I don't mean, from My Computer)
[13:32] <ial> Chrisglie: google
[13:33] <mrpockets> yes
[13:33] <mrpockets> C and E
[13:33] <mrpockets> C with all the regular windows jazz
[13:33] <mrpockets> and E with all my files and shit that i want to save
[13:34] <mrpockets> but i dont even know which partition is showing up on the windows install
[13:35] <pixil> I think it's just showing you the 1 disk you have. :p
[13:35] <mrpockets> its 131070 megs, which shouldn't be the size of either partitions...
[13:35] <mrpockets> well thats about 130 gigs, this drives 320...
[13:35] <mrpockets> and the IDE is an 80
[13:35] <mrpockets> but
[13:35] <mrpockets> the IDE shows up
[13:36] <mrpockets> with its ext3 and its swap partitions...
[13:36] <Chrisglie> ial: What did you google?
[13:36] <pixil> MrPockets: Now you're confusing me. Is this windows or Linux/UNIX?
[13:38] <mrpockets> dualboot on the box
[13:38] <pixil> 1 hard disk?
[13:38] <mrpockets> two
[13:38] <mrpockets> the SATA boots to XP, and has a 2nd partition for storage
[13:38] <pixil> disk 1 has winders, disk 2 has linux?
[13:38] <mrpockets> right
[13:38] <mrpockets> then the IDE is for linux
[13:39] <pixil> I am 85% sure Windows is seeing the windows partition on disk 0.
[13:39] <pixil> :-)
[13:39] <ial> Chrisglie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Fleece tells the name in the fi
[13:40] <mrpockets> then why is it 131070 megs?
[13:41] <pixil> Any of those partitions that size?
[13:41] <mrpockets> lol
[13:41] <mrpockets> none of the partitions on either disk are that size...
[13:41] <pixil> Or, any combination of any of the partitions that size? :p
[13:43] <mrpockets> nah
[13:43] <mrpockets> i mean, its 130 gigs
[13:43] <mrpockets> the two, added, should be 320 ggis
[13:43] <pixil> which two?
[13:43] <pixil> oh, on disk 1
[13:43] <mrpockets> right
[13:44] <mrpockets> this install more or less doesnt concern disk 2
[13:44] <pixil> yeah
[13:44] <pixil> I agree
[13:46] <mrpockets> I just dont know why the hell its showing the partition all wack
[13:46] <mrpockets> in in ubuntu now, copying it all over to tihs drive
[13:46] <pixil> I guess outside of rebooting and making sure BIOS sees the disks properly, an
[13:46] <mrpockets> then i spose ima just reinstall on the one it shows and hope for the best
[13:46] <mrpockets> yeah
[13:47] <mrpockets> and i thank you for your help
[13:47] <mrpockets> winders
[13:47] <mrpockets> winders sees both partitions, ubuntu sees both partitions on that disk
[13:47] <mrpockets> but winders install dont :(
[13:48] <pixil> That's hilarious. :-)
[13:48] <mrpockets> no
[13:48] <mrpockets> thats winders
[13:48] <mrpockets> :-p
[13:51] <pixil> heh
[13:51] <Sculptor> does anyone own an eeepc?
[13:53] <pixil> The guy sitting directly next to my office does, Sculptor.
[13:53] <pixil> The one without the webcam.
[13:53] <Sculptor> is keyboard too small? is normal typing possible?
[13:53] <mrpockets> wtf is an eeepc?
[13:54] <pixil> MrPockets: Asus. Really nifty little things.
[13:54] <Sculptor> mrpockets, asus's cheap 7'' laptop
[13:54] <pixil> He's running ubuntu on it.
[13:54] <mrpockets> how cheap?
[13:54] <pixil> Sculptor: He said that it took some adjustment, but is perfectly fine.
[13:54] <pixil> MrPockets: $300.
[13:54] <mrpockets> oh my
[13:54] <mrpockets> yeah
[13:54] <pixil> He's got diablo 2 running wonderfully on it :D
[13:55] <mrpockets> I'm an MIS student, and i've got a mighty powerful (although evidently s
[13:56] <rhelic> mrpockets: keep an eye on SlickDeals.net, there's at least 1 laptop deal a w
[13:56] <rhelic> 90% of the time, it's from Dell... usually it's worth $1,000-$1,200
[13:56] <mrpockets> this eepc seems mighty interesting though
[13:58] <Sculptor_> so, anyway pixil, is keyboard too small?
[14:00] <mrpockets> idk
[14:00] <mrpockets> 2 gig sollid state HDD is mighty small
[14:00] <sparrw> i want an eee
[14:00] <sparrw> its at the top of my list for a portable
[14:01] <sparrw> recently a guy crammed like 5 additional devices inside the case. bluetooth
[14:01] <sparrw> i cant wait to see the eee desktops
[14:02] * Sculptor_ is now known as Sculptor
[14:03] <mrpockets> i spose 2 gigs is plenty though
[14:03] <mrpockets> for an OS
[14:03] <mrpockets> eh fuck
[14:03] <mrpockets> idk
[14:03] <mrpockets> they look slick as hell though
[14:04] <sparrw> my gp2x uses about 40MB for the OS, and 2GB for a few thousand games :)
[14:06] <sparrw> i wish the eee had gaming controls
[14:06] <sparrw> if i hack anything into the dead space beside the screen, that will probably
[14:06] <mrpockets> you figure the EEE could run XP pro with the office 2k7 package?
[14:06] <sparrw> ugh, why on earth would you do that?
[14:06] <sparrw> i mean, sure, it COULD
[14:06] <mrpockets> my MIS class :(
[14:07] <sparrw> my car would also make a great boat anchor
[14:07] <mrpockets> lol
[14:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[14:07] <mrpockets> that dun mean its a good fuck'en idea
[14:07] <mrpockets> but i've gotta sit through this 200 level MIS class thats all about offic
[14:07] <mrpockets> and it blows, but its easier than testing out and going right into the ne
[14:08] <pixil> #helpchat for non-help-related discussions. :D
[14:13] <sqwob> moss 2007 is fun ;)
[14:15] <rhelik> I love making painfully simple mistakes, spend like 15mins trying to figure
[14:20] <sqwob> rhelik: you're far from the only one making those mistakes ;)
[14:20] <rhelik> the worst part was, my error output spits out the IP, and I saw it like 20 t
[14:21] <rhelik> hell, I even googled the entire error, which included the IP
[14:25] <Ifrit> how good quality is H.264 MPEG-4 ?
[14:25] <rhelik> the quality depends on the setting
[14:25] <rhelik> if you're asking if it's a good format, yes, very good, better than DVD aka
[14:25] <Ifrit> it's a 31 minute file at 150mb
[14:26] <rhelik> all new Quicktime videos use it, cell phones, and DiVX and XViD are based of
[14:29] <rhelik> HDDVDs can use h.264
[14:29] <rhelik> so can't BluRay
[14:29] <rhelik> so basically, it's the bestest codec eva :)
[14:31] <Ifrit> i see
[14:35] <imogen> how can i tell if i already have .net installed?
[14:36] <sqwob> configuration panel > add/remove software
[14:36] <sqwob> it should be listed there
[14:36] <Ifrit> yeah
[14:37] <Ifrit> hmm, add/remove programs
[14:39] <Inf0r> is there an efnet support channeL?
[14:39] <phisher1> you're in one
[14:39] <Inf0r> can we get some ssl servers?
[14:40] <phisher1> theres only a couple in testing stages right now for efnet
[14:40] <Inf0r> eversible but its been down for days
[14:40] <phisher1> why do you require ssl for irc ?
[14:40] <Inf0r> i don't require anything, i like ssl
[14:40] <phisher1> unless server to server supports ssl, its pointless
[14:40] <Inf0r> oh really?
[14:40] <Inf0r> why
[14:41] <phisher1> luserA connected via SSL to serverA
[14:41] <phisher1> luserB connected without SSL to serverB
[14:41] <phisher1> luserB is your weak point
[14:41] <Inf0r> but as far as my local network is concerned they cannot see my traffic
[14:42] <phisher1> who is they ?
[14:42] <Inf0r> cisco ids :)
[14:42] <phisher1> mmk..
[14:43] <Inf0r> anyways i see what you mean. you should name yourself durtro from #linux
[14:43] <Inf0r> your personalities are the same
[14:43] <phisher1> good talk.
[14:48] <modogo> hi
[14:48] <modogo> anyone a professional here?
[14:48] <Osc> professional what?
[14:48] <modogo> an admin or something?
[14:48] <modogo> wait... no LAW
[14:48] <modogo> nm
[14:48] <Osc> do you mean a server operator or a server admin?
[14:48] <modogo> well, doesn't really matter. it was about LAW
[14:49] <modogo> so... bullocks
[14:49] <rhelik> imogen: run this
[14:50] <rhelik> imogen: http://www.programmersheaven.com/download/34379/download.aspx
[14:50] <rhelik> it will tell you which .NETs you have and what SPs on them.. I carry that in
[14:54] <rhelic> lmsg imogen http://www.programmersheaven.com/download/34379/download.aspx
[14:55] <rhelic> damn, my spam was foiled!
[15:04] <modogo> is scanning for proxies myself instead of using public lists illegal?
[15:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:07] <imogen> in windows XP how can i change my environtment variables. ?
[15:08] <Nightwork> imogen, system properties, advanced, environment variables.
[15:08] <imogen> i know there's some way to get to it in the control panel, im googling and t
[15:08] <imogen> ah system
[15:08] <imogen> thanks
[15:08] <Nightwork> windows key+break or sysdm.cpl
[15:09] <imogen> nice shortcut thanks
[15:09] <rhelic> oh, I never knew that one
[15:09] <imogen> me neither!
[15:09] <imogen> that's the best shortcut ever too
[15:10] <rhelic> best ever? eh, WinKey+R is my fav
[15:10] <Kalagaraz> Do you burn calories "thinking" ?
[15:11] <rhelic> Kalagaraz: no, but you do burn them doing nothing
[15:12] <Ramblin> what programming language is good to learn first?
[15:12] <Ramblin> keep in mind i will be learning it COMPLETELY from scratch
[15:12] <rhelic> Kalagaraz: I mean, something is burnt, but it's not measurable, and usually
[15:12] <rhelic> Ramblin: C#
[15:12] <Ramblin> i know nothing about programming
[15:12] <Kalagaraz> I googled said the human brain uses around 20 watts of power a day
[15:13] <Kalagaraz> or 20 watts of power, (didn't say day)
[15:13] <rhelic> Ramblin: I recommend you buy this http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Visual-20
[15:13] <Kalagaraz> I typed in google "20 watts in calories per second"
[15:13] <Kalagaraz> came out to be around 4.7
[15:13] <rhelic> Ramblin: $13 and a very soft way to get into Windows developing
[15:13] <Ramblin> thanks rhelic
[15:13] <Kalagaraz> C# pwns, I use it daily
[15:13] <rhelic> Ramblin: anybody who tells you to learn BASIC or C first has their head up t
[15:13] <Kalagaraz> Easy and simple
[15:14] <rhelic> classic "that's how I learned, and so should you" thinking
[15:14] <Kalagaraz> Ignore the C/C++ fanboys that say C# is useless :)
[15:14] <Ramblin> lol
[15:14] <Ramblin> what all can i do with C#?
[15:14] <Kalagaraz> Pretty much anything you can in C++
[15:14] <Kalagaraz> with a few exceptions
[15:15] <Kalagaraz> very few
[15:15] <rhelic> Ramblin: anything you want, as long as you don't mind it running on Windows
[15:15] <Kalagaraz> If you planning on writing hacks for video games, then C++ is your way to
[15:15] <Ramblin> i don't mind for now
[15:15] <rhelic> Ramblin: DOS apps, Windows apps, ASP.NET websites
[15:15] <Kalagaraz> C# can't do that stuff, due to how .NET works
[15:15] <Ramblin> i figure once i learn more i'll run Linux
[15:15] <Ramblin> but i'll settle for windows now
[15:15] <Kalagaraz> that's the only thing I've found C# can't do
[15:15] <rhelic> Ramblin: with C#, you could write code that becomes a .DLL that both a Windo
[15:16] <Ramblin> cool
[15:16] <Kalagaraz> Ramblin, what are your 'goals'? Just to learn general programming or
[15:16] <rhelic> Ramblin: well the app world uses: C#.NET, PHP, C++..... Java and Coldfusion
[15:16] <Kalagaraz> Are you trying to make some specific type of application
[15:16] <rhelic> Ramblin: buy that book, it's dirt cheap and it's the easiest way to write yo
[15:17] <Ramblin> Kalagaraz just general programming
[15:17] <Kalagaraz> C# is easy enough to learn online :)
[15:17] <Ramblin> don't know enough to have anything else in mind
[15:17] <Kalagaraz> You can probally make something in 10 15 minutes
[15:17] <rhelic> Kalagaraz: the book is $12 and if you saw it, you would preach it too
[15:17] <Kalagaraz> What book, I might have it
[15:18] <rhelic> rtfc
[15:18] <[600SL]> KaMiKaZa= I told you yesterday
[15:18] <[600SL]> HELLO!
[15:18] <Kalagaraz> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft®-Visual-2005-Step-Microsoft/dp/0735621292
[15:18] <Kalagaraz> I got that book
[15:19] <KaMiKaZa> Hi?
[15:19] <Ramblin> thanks guys
[15:21] <port-> is there a program i can install that will update my linksys wrt54g with my 1
[15:22] <rhelik> I can't wait for this customer to hurry up and pay me, so I can buy a new PC
[15:22] <rhelik> this 7yr old junk keeps crashing
[15:22] <hockeymac> im having a problem sending a file from a remote machine of mine. Everyti
[15:22] <rhelik> hockeymac: you're pretty ballsy to paste that
[15:23] <rhelik> hockeymac: using what, Windows Live Messenger aka MSN Messenger?
[15:23] <hockeymac> irc
[15:24] <rhelik> hockeymac: do you have DCC ignore disabled?
[15:24] <hockeymac> yea
[15:24] <rhelik> hockeymac: setup a FTP server, irc/im is a horrible way to send files
[15:24] <hockeymac> ok thanks
[15:24] <rhelik> google for GuildFTPd, it will take 2 secs to install it
[15:24] <rhelik> put it on the box you want to save to
[15:24] <hockeymac> thanks, sorry for the earlier post
[15:28] <rhelik> Kalagaraz: in case you didn't see it http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Visual
[15:32] <rhelik> Kalagaraz: they make a version for WebPages too, imho, the best book to give
[15:32] <rhelik> I like they focus on functional developement, instead of chapters of explain
[15:33] <rhelik> they show you how to create some input boxes, a button, and have it compute
[15:33] <rhelik> GUI developement doesn't need to start all fundamental like CompSci is, whic
[15:43] <c|oneman> I got a question about windows file shares:
[15:44] <c|oneman> why do I still need a user/pass if theres a fileshare on the machine that
[15:44] <n909> what version of windows?
[15:44] <c|oneman> xpp
[15:45] <c|oneman> "simple file sharing" off
[15:45] <n909> so turn it on.
[15:45] <c|oneman> doesnt that force you to use only the shareddocs folder
[15:45] <n909> no
[15:45] <rhelik> simple lets you share any folder you want
[15:46] <rhelik> you just have to enable it on that folder
[15:47] <Nightwork> Cisco question. SPAN sessions on a 6009... Any way to mirror TX traffic
[15:47] <c|oneman> eh
[15:47] <c|oneman> I don't like the sound of simple file sharing
[15:47] <rhelik> c|oneman: well don't enable it where you don't want it, by default WRITE is
[15:48] <c|oneman> but then
[15:48] <rhelik> c|oneman: despite, you should always look at your own share and see WTF some
[15:48] <rhelik> no buts
[15:48] <rhelik> :)
[15:48] <c|oneman> DO I lose the ability to create password for shares
[15:48] <c|oneman> other shares
[15:48] <Nightwork> Simple sharing is an all or nothing proposition.
[15:48] <c|oneman> thats what I thought
[15:48] <perfect> why doesnt my mouse wheel work in mirc
[15:48] <Nightwork> Without it, you will need to authenticate, whether 'everyone' has permiss
[15:49] <c|oneman> stupid
[15:49] <IamKing> perfect: I don't know...mine works just fine
[15:49] <Nightwork> Easy on a domain, or you can just save network passwords.
[15:49] <c|oneman> you should be able to get a list of the non-passworded fileshares
[15:49] <perfect> it works in browser not in irc
[15:49] <Nightwork> Simple sharing basically treats everything as a guest with basic per-shar
[15:50] <rhelik> you mean everybody :P
[15:50] <c|oneman> now I need a firewall...
[15:50] <Nightwork> Whatever. :P
[15:50] <Nightwork> Feel free to help me with my port mirroring issue. :P
[15:50] <c|oneman> that's what they said when they designed this crap
[15:51] <c|oneman> I say they create this stuff purely to confuse people
[15:51] <c|oneman> make money for technicians
[15:52] * Nightwork sighs.
[15:53] <Nightwork> Damnit. I have too many interfaces for ingress monitoring to catch every
[15:54] <Nightwork> Well, maybe not, they aren't all populated yet.
[16:03] <Joikus> my laptop is not really loud
[16:03] <Joikus> i have everything maxed out, what can i do ?
[16:03] <Joikus> or check
[16:04] <PyroTek> laptops tend not to be loud... got a speaker system you can plug in?
[16:06] <c|oneman> or use headphones, everyone does
[16:06] <c|oneman> my laptop has a subwoofer built in, lol
[16:06] <c|oneman> if you can call it that
[16:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[16:09] <Joikus> :/
[16:10] <c|oneman> hah
[16:11] <c|oneman> he was even from montreal
[16:11] <c|oneman> maybe I could have sold him my speakers
[16:13] <Chrisglie> I want to ad rarreg.key to the registry. Why can't I? It says: Cannot imp
[16:13] <rhelik> File > Import ?
[16:13] <Chrisglie> Then I try to import it...
[16:13] <rhelik> it's probably lacking the proper header
[16:13] <Chrisglie> It says:
[16:13] <Chrisglie> The key selected is invalid.
[16:13] <Chrisglie> I can show you the text in notepad?
[16:14] <rhelik> msg me or pasebin it
[16:14] <rhelik> assuming it's short
[16:14] <Chrisglie> ok, pastebin
[16:14] <rhelik> you need this as the first line
[16:14] <rhelik> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[16:15] <Chrisglie> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m397dafda
[16:19] <Chrisglie> Solution: You need this as the first line: Windows Registry Editor Versio
[16:21] <Chrisglie> Wonder why.
[16:21] <Chrisglie> It works on others with the same os.
[16:28] <intrin[a]> can someone recommend me a affordable ide controller?
[16:29] <c|oneman> you mean a PCI one?
[16:32] <Fire_Star> siig... are they still around?
[16:38] <villan> hi my cocks
[16:38] <[jav]> I need some help in Ableton. Is there an ableton-related IRC channel on EFN
[16:40] <clown6> how do i get to like all the counter strike places
[16:41] <clown6> how do i get to like all the counter strike places
[16:47] <Alpineaud> what is a usb port?
[16:48] <RcHaCk> ??
[16:48] <Alpineaud> alpine all teh way!
[16:48] <RcHaCk> Universial Serial Bus
[16:48] <Alpineaud> i know i just wanted to see some answers
[16:48] <RcHaCk> ohh
[16:49] <Alpineaud> ya thats how exciting my life is right now
[16:49] <Alpineaud> haah!
[16:49] <intrin[a]> anyone know of a decent affordable pci ide controller?
[16:49] <slimer> i've heard of usb but i think it's experimental
[16:49] <slimer> and only available in macs
[16:49] <RcHaCk> join the club
[16:49] <Alpineaud> how do those work
[16:49] <Nightwork> Aren't there plenty of cheap generic controllers?
[16:49] <Alpineaud> is that liek hooking up a ide hd to a pc that doesnt have the old ide con
[16:50] <copeland> did filezilla used to be called voyager? or is that a separate service?
[16:50] <intrin[a]> just dont wanna get a el-breako one
[16:50] <intrin[a]> heh
[16:50] <Nightwork> Heh.
[16:50] <Nightwork> Well, most of the Promise ones are fine.
[16:50] <Alpineaud> awe no shyt
[16:50] <Alpineaud> it is
[16:50] <intrin[a]> like whats a good brand
[16:50] <RcHaCk> el-breako ? that spanglish ?
[16:50] <Alpineaud> cuz i bought a new computer and i realized i couldnt slave my hd cuz it w
[16:50] <intrin[a]> haha yea
[16:50] <Nightwork> Heh, most of them are just generic.
[16:51] <Alpineaud> them things are cheap
[16:51] <Alpineaud> no more then 20 bucks
[16:51] <Nightwork> I doubt you'll have any serious issues.
[16:51] <Alpineaud> there isnt anything special to them
[16:51] <Alpineaud> they can only go so fast anyways
[16:51] <intrin[a]> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpN
[16:51] <intrin[a]> like that, prolly el-breako
[16:51] <intrin[a]> heh
[16:52] <Alpineaud> even cheaper
[16:52] <Alpineaud> dpeneds on how many u wanan hook up to
[16:52] <intrin[a]> just like 3
[16:52] <intrin[a]> the cheapest promise one they have is 110$
[16:52] <intrin[a]> way to much
[16:52] <Alpineaud> ohhh
[16:53] <Alpineaud> dunno mate
[16:53] <Alpineaud> buy a nice external hd and call it
[16:53] <intrin[a]> ill just get that one
[16:53] <intrin[a]> nah i need it for dvdrw
[16:53] <Alpineaud> oh
[16:54] <Alpineaud> ya i got a nice sony dual layer burner
[16:54] <Alpineaud> but my dell dont use them big ides
[16:54] <Alpineaud> so i cant veen use it
[16:54] <intrin[a]> darn
[16:54] <Alpineaud> so i might veen consider
[16:54] <Alpineaud> shoot damn dang
[16:54] <Alpineaud> typin equals blah
[16:55] <Alpineaud> wheres some good pricing on a 22" widescreen
[16:56] <Alpineaud> under 300
[16:56] <intrin[a]> i just got mine for 250
[16:56] <IamKing> bleh @ 22"
[16:56] <Alpineaud> what kind
[16:56] <IamKing> need at least 24"
[16:56] <intrin[a]> but bought it locally from my brother-inlaw
[16:56] <intrin[a]> acer 5:ms i blieve
[16:56] <intrin[a]> 700:1
[16:56] <Alpineaud> acer...
[16:56] <intrin[a]> dark cant see
[16:56] <intrin[a]> heh
[16:57] <intrin[a]> al2216w
[16:57] <intrin[a]> there
[16:57] <Alpineaud> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009094&Tpk=al221
[16:59] <Alpineaud> i think just about every lcd has its cons
[16:59] <Alpineaud> eventually
[16:59] <Alpineaud> but witch holds out the longest
[17:04] <Alpineaud> crts are nice but there just to damn big
[17:04] <Alpineaud> lol
[17:04] <Alpineaud> last the longest though
[17:04] <Alpineaud> a 22 inch crt
[17:04] <Alpineaud> lol
[17:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[17:07] <c|oneman> anyone mess around with j2me apps a lot
[17:08] <c|oneman> I'd like email program that checks email every x monutes, and vibrates if
[17:19] <FaNKo0oSH> hello, whuts the command for the notify ??
[17:19] * Clz is now known as clz
[17:19] <MornStar> /notify
[17:20] <FaNKo0oSH> thnx alot
[17:20] <MornStar> or do you mean /notice ?
[17:20] <FaNKo0oSH> notify me if someone logs on
[17:20] <MornStar> yeah /notify :)
[17:20] <FaNKo0oSH> thnx again :)
[17:23] * clz is now known as Clz
[17:27] <Kalagaraz> is "health care" a "social issue"
[17:31] <DukeVista> anyone here go to hapkido martial art?
[17:31] <hirogen1> #mma-tv
[17:37] * Alexandru back
[17:41] <rizzi> anyone know a way to mute a particular window (ie: game) while keeping anothe
[17:44] <cloneman> well one way would be to turn off sound in the in game controls
[17:44] <cloneman> if available
[17:45] <rizzi> guess im sol
[17:46] <Alpineaud> LMAO!
[18:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[18:21] <Kasino> whats that new movie called thats in theatre previews about oil i think, set
[18:21] <Kasino> cowboy sorta thing i think
[18:21] <MornStar> :o
[18:21] <MornStar> only new cowboy ish film is no country for old men, but it's not in the we
[18:23] <Lea^> whoever fucked up #global on joins FIX IT
[18:23] <Lindy_> anyone know any thing about nortosn ?
[18:23] <deww> Lea^: what's wrong with #global?
[18:23] <Lindy_> nortons
[18:23] <Lindy_> yeah
[18:23] <Lea^> can'tget in there
[18:24] <Lindy_> looks fine to me
[18:24] <MornStar> i joined fine
[18:24] <Lindy_> so did I
[18:24] <deww> Lea^: you're not banned there
[18:24] <MornStar> try a different server Lea^
[18:24] <Lindy_> and it isnt +i
[18:24] <Lea^> i got in now
[18:24] <Lindy_> what msg do you get ?
[18:24] <Lea^> it wouldn't let me all day
[18:25] <Lindy_> but what msg did you get ?
[18:25] <Lindy_> .nl was split earlier
[18:26] <Lea^> wouldn't give me any msg
[18:26] <Lea^> just wouldn't let me back in
[18:26] <deww> yeah it was anyone that fucked in the channel
[18:26] <deww> :P
[18:26] <deww> was NOT
[18:26] * deww fixes
[18:27] <eastbayar> i need to copy a boot drive (XP) to a larger hard drive. What's a good pr
[18:27] <Lea^> i shouldn't worry too much i suppose,no ident ,no ops
[18:27] <Lea^> :P
[18:27] <Lindy_> you may have been on a split
[18:27] <deww> eastbayar: ghost
[18:27] <Lea^> thx thou
[18:47] <indyjb> what is CHANSERV?
[18:48] <indyjb> no CHANHELP not CHANSERV
[18:48] <deww> neither of those exist on this network
[18:48] <indyjb> CHANFIX
[18:48] <indyjb> lol
[18:48] <Chrisglie> I've found the most genius slogan for a doughnut company.
[18:49] <deww> indyjb: it is a way to help people regain ops in a channel should a stable cha
[18:50] <indyjb> yeah it just reset our channel and now we have no ops and plenty of spammers
[18:50] <ender-> Nero keeps telling me im putting in a cdr when im trying to use a dvd+r dl,
[18:50] <Chrisglie> +in
[18:51] <deww> indyjb: yeah well nothing we did.
[18:51] <indyjb> u dont know how it works or how to fix it?
[18:51] <deww> i do, but i didn't do anything in regards to your channel
[18:51] <deww> i know which channel you're talking about
[18:52] <deww> indyjb: www.efnet.org/chanfix
[19:02] <Jivedude> Anyone know of a free program that can make lists of the contents of CDs a
[19:04] <deww> not exactly pretty, but you can always use dir /s
[19:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[19:12] <Audunn> i have a very very very strange keyboard problem
[19:14] <deww> yes. it is indeed weird.
[19:14] <Audunn> with no warning, every single key of my wireless keyboard changed its positi
[19:14] <Jivedude> Yeah deww that's what I used to do.
[19:15] <deww> Audunn: make sure no keys are stuck and try rebooting
[19:15] <Audunn> deww: already tried. theres not a single key on it working. only my old non-
[19:15] <Audunn> when i press escape all i get is u
[19:15] <Audunn> when i hit k i get 8
[19:15] <Audunn> it was fun at first :P
[19:16] <Jivedude> Sounds like the keyboard is accessing a parallel dimension where k = 8
[19:16] <deww> heh
[19:16] <deww> i don't even know where to start
[19:16] <deww> maybe control panel and see if there's something in the keyboard settings
[19:16] <Audunn> me neither. ive never heard of anything like it
[19:16] <eastbayar> what's a good adware/spyware program and antivirus?
[19:16] <deww> and see if it happens in another account
[19:16] <Jivedude> AdAware is good
[19:17] <Audunn> keyboard settings are all normal, also after defaulting them, and theres onl
[19:17] <Jivedude> And Spyboy: Search and Destroy
[19:17] <Jivedude> err Spybot
[19:17] <deww> Audunn: right, but you can try creating an account that you can delete later
[19:17] <deww> for test purposes
[19:17] <Audunn> ah, alright
[19:18] <Totake> Excuse, to whom might I report a renegade script-flooded channel?
[19:18] <Lindy_> me
[19:18] <Lindy_> or any oper
[19:19] <Totake> well, the channel called #smashbros is pretty... yeah, what I just said.
[19:19] <Lindy_> yeah we know
[19:19] <Totake> ah, oki doke
[19:19] <Audunn> nay, theres no change
[19:21] <eastbayar> how about a good antivirus software?
[19:22] <Audunn> it seems like my keyboard has simply gone nuts
[19:23] <Jivedude> Avast and AVG are free
[19:25] <Totake> AntiVir Personal is apparently the most popular free antivirus on filehippo.
[19:28] <Audunn> maybe if i hit the keyboard against a wall repeatedly...
[19:28] <Audunn> think that might help?
[19:28] <Audunn> im pretty sure itd make me feel a whole lot better about it
[19:28] <deww> yeah do it!!!
[19:29] <Audunn> im very tempted
[19:29] <Audunn> gah, guess ill just go to sleep, then call the shop tomorrow and ask them wh
[19:46] <Extreme33> vista mce , i enabled gallery in regestery , but when i play a dvd from v
[19:46] * linkmaste is now known as an-hour
[19:46] * an-hour is now known as linkmaste
[19:52] <kiss161> hi is there a way to block a link with kaspeskey ?
[19:52] <rhelic> kiss161: well you can block an entire web domain by editing your hosts file
[19:53] <kiss161> hmm
[19:53] <rhelic> so if you have nastysite.com/hack/you.html
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