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Session Start: Wed Jan 30 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:04] <rllnstone> lets say my audio is going through your standard PCI soundcard, and i plu
[00:04] <rllnstone> i'd like better control over the audio output(s)
[00:05] <rllnstone> than windows natively offers...XP
[00:05] <rllnstone> any suggestions?
[00:06] <n0ah> OK NOW IM REALLY OUTA HERE
[00:06] <n0ah> nsfw: yup, it's based on c89 standard you can code pure c in a c++ compiler an
[00:06] <n0ah> rllnstone: sounds like you've only got an input :P
[00:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:07] <n0ah> GodAnubiz:
[00:07] <n0ah> SourceForge.net: FreeMeter Bandwidth Monitor For Windows
[00:07] <n0ah> Monitor network bandwidth (C#.NET 2k/XP+). Desktop and Systray graph. Configur
[00:07] <n0ah> sourceforge.net/projects/freemeter/ - 28k - Cached - Similar pages
[00:07] <n0ah> Kevin-_-: unrealircd looks for the conf file in the root of the source directo
[00:07] <n0ah> if you make install it reads it from $PREFIX/etc
[00:07] <n0ah> probably defaulted to /usr/local/etc
[00:08] <n0ah> goodnight :)
[00:08] <n0ah> rllnstone: use linux :P
[00:11] <MiN-0> hey was sarah connor chronicles on this week
[00:23] <moerte> boas
[00:24] <moerte> alguem me pode ajudar????
[00:24] <moerte> por favor
[00:24] <qazwsx> whats the best way/app to reduce the file size of a jpg, ive tried reducing
[00:25] <Sculptori> hi
[00:25] <moerte> anybody speaks portuguese????
[00:26] * Sculptori is now known as Sculptr
[00:26] <moerte> fdx
[00:26] <moerte> mas k merda e esta
[00:26] <moerte> fdx
[00:26] <moerte> ngm diz nada oh caralho
[00:29] <perfect> heh i dont understand the ending of no country for old men
[00:31] <jey> why is #d an illegal channel name?
[00:31] <jey> i'd like to use it for discussing the D programming language
[00:31] <Sculptr> #d_lang is free
[00:32] <Sculptr> so is #dead_langs
[00:32] <jey> there have been a few languages called "D", I'm referring to Digital Mars D, it
[00:33] <Sixcaps> Jumpie
[00:44] <Jumpie> yo six
[00:44] <perfect> what is NCFOM about
[00:52] <ShervinE> hey, I'm testing a website for the University of QLD (Australia), can some
[00:54] <john-l> ok
[00:54] <ShervinE> cheers, goto http://ratslam.itee.uq.edu.au/robotTest1.html
[00:55] <Roketto> hi
[00:55] <Roketto> is there a way to get my address to appear after my name istead of the ip
[00:58] <ShervinE> john-l, did you try it?
[01:03] <john-l> doesnt work
[01:03] <ShervinE> john-l: geez! i'll try increasing the timeout
[01:06] <ShervinE> john-l: can you try it now please
[01:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:12] <Roketto> is there a way to get my address to appear after my name istead of the ip
[01:12] <blanto> is there a way to manually turn on a computer if you don't have a power butt
[01:12] <Roketto> is it an ident issue
[01:13] <Sculptr> blanto, yes, if you set up bios right
[01:13] <Sculptr> for example, i boot my desktop with a ctrl+f1 combination
[01:26] <Roketto> link@athedsl-224597.home.otenet.g how do i get this to appear instead on
[01:34] * _moin is now known as moin
[01:39] <john-l> some girl thinks she's in love with me online
[01:41] <Sculptori> how can you be sure that she is not he
[01:41] <john-l> she's sent pictures
[01:41] <john-l> i'm not in love with her or think i am or anything at all
[01:42] <john-l> also i never asked for pictures
[01:42] <john-l> plus i've spoken with her
[01:42] <Sculptori> that means that he/she mastered attaching files to emails, only
[01:42] <john-l> i guess
[01:44] <icarusL> anyone know if the apple macbook (with an intel core 2, but not a macbook p
[01:44] <john-l> how do i tell her to ease off without her thinking i'm gay
[01:45] <john-l> (which i'm not)
[01:45] <john-l> i just dont do the online romance thing
[01:45] <ShervinE> just tell her you are gay
[01:45] <Sculptori> just stop talking to her
[01:46] <john-l> no
[01:46] <john-l> she has this whole imaginary thing built up about me
[01:46] <john-l> she writes about me in a journal
[01:46] <Sculptori> the sooner, the better
[01:46] <john-l> why
[01:46] <john-l> i'm not a mean person
[01:47] <ShervinE> if u tell her your gay, everything is solved, unless if she then tries to
[01:47] <john-l> i'm not doing that
[01:47] <Sculptori> do you have something agains gays
[01:47] <john-l> that makes no sense at all
[01:47] <john-l> i have nothing against gays
[01:48] <ShervinE> haha then tell her u met a girl and things are going pretty good between u
[01:48] <ShervinE> she's got to back off
[01:48] <john-l> its not like that
[01:48] <john-l> she has a really intense crush
[01:48] <john-l> she doesn't assume that i'm her boyfriend or something crazy like that
[01:48] <Sculptori> get her know you better ;p
[01:48] <ShervinE> haha
[01:49] <fritodogg> anybody know where to point a guy with some netwok/router problems?
[01:49] <john-l> yeah she keeps asking all these questions
[01:49] <fritodogg> with XP
[01:49] <john-l> she's always asking if i have a girlfriend too
[01:49] <Sculptori> let
[01:49] <ShervinE> yeah try to show her your bad side, and if u cant then make up a bad side
[01:49] <Sculptori> say, no, i have a boyfriend
[01:49] <john-l> i believe it
[01:50] <john-l> i'm not trying to shake her
[01:50] <ShervinE> haha I agree with Sculptori, the gay thing is your easiest solution
[01:50] <john-l> she's interesting/friendly
[01:50] <john-l> i've said nothing i regret or would be ashamed of
[01:50] <ShervinE> fritodogg, I'm having network problems too. whats your problem?
[01:50] <Roketto> is there a way to get my address to appear after my name istead of the ip
[01:51] <fritodogg> my friends is havin em actually. everytime he changes the connection to a
[01:51] <Sculptori> Roketto, no
[01:52] <Roketto> fritodogg (~furby22@68-112-120-92.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) how do i
[01:52] <john-l> she wrote this elaborate note to me
[01:52] <ShervinE> fritodogg, you mean if u look at the TCP settings, it will say a manual IP
[01:52] <john-l> indicating dates we had arguments
[01:52] <fritodogg> yeah
[01:52] <fritodogg> exactly
[01:52] <john-l> dude wait your turn!
[01:52] <john-l> jk
[01:53] <Sculptori> john-l, just be honest
[01:53] <fritodogg> his net is connectid via USB and he has a router that connects his other
[01:54] <Sculptori> horrific setup
[01:54] <ShervinE> fritodogg: maybe it means their computer is trying to get an automatic one
[01:54] <fritodogg> yeah.. i havent heard of that happeneing either
[01:54] <Roketto> fritodogg (~furby22@68-112-120-92.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) how do i
[01:55] <fritodogg> i have no idea roketto. maybe its the version of irc i got
[01:55] <Roketto> what version?
[01:55] <fritodogg> 6.31
[01:55] <jackal^> Roketto, ask your ISP
[01:56] <jackal^> second, anyone can /dns you and get the ip
[01:56] <ShervinE> john-l: i had a 16yr old chic constantly sending me messages online cos s
[01:56] <Roketto> yeah i just dont want it appearing whereever i join / quit a channel
[01:56] <Clz> fritodogg: Buy a bnc.
[01:57] <jackal^> Roketto, then take my first suggestion
[01:57] <Roketto> could it be anything to do with identd
[01:59] <ShervinE> john-l: but it sounds like she wouldn't just stop like that. on the other
[02:00] <john-l> she's not that bad
[02:00] <ShervinE> then dont worry about it
[02:00] <john-l> she's very shy and lonely though
[02:00] <john-l> she's in law school
[02:00] <john-l> your comment cut off after "stopped"
[02:02] <Jumpie> wow anyone seen the new cadillac xlr-v roadster
[02:02] <Jumpie> sweet but over 100k..i saw 2 today downtown
[02:02] <ShervinE> I said "stopped messaging him everyday, they're good online friends, and s
[02:03] <john-l> so i'm on the right course
[02:03] <ShervinE> haha well what are you doing about it now?
[02:03] <john-l> until your brother's corpse shows up on your lawn one day
[02:03] <john-l> i'm just being friendly
[02:03] <ShervinE> haha
[02:03] <bizman> Guys i have a form validation script i wrote but it is not executing i put i
[02:03] <john-l> nothing romantic at all
[02:04] <john-l> did your bro ever meet the bitch
[02:04] <geemyx> !help
[02:04] <geemyx> !comandi
[02:04] <fritodogg> ¿help
[02:04] <fritodogg> jk
[02:04] <ShervinE> actually I did first cos I happened to be in that area once and so he gave
[02:05] <ShervinE> not surprising i guess
[02:05] <john-l> well this girl is 5'6 1/2 105
[02:05] <john-l> 20 years old
[02:05] <ShervinE> geez, hook us up ;-)
[02:05] <john-l> lol
[02:06] <john-l> how big is your beer belly
[02:06] <ShervinE> i dont have one, despite getting wasted about twice per week on average fo
[02:07] <john-l> lol
[02:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:07] <john-l> well she doesn't drink
[02:07] <ShervinE> but it will probly come when i'm old
[02:07] <john-l> haha
[02:07] <Jumpie> john-l no idle chat
[02:07] <john-l> eat me
[02:07] <Jumpie> :P
[02:08] <dj_dj> hola a todos
[02:09] * john-l jumps in a new cadillac xlr-v roadster and mows jumpie down
[02:09] <john-l> >:>
[02:09] <ShervinE> does anyone here know much about networking? I need to find out why my Ap
[02:09] <dj_dj> tengo 1 peqeño problema de hace 3 meses
[02:09] <john-l> i'll cehck your website again
[02:09] <ShervinE> what are some good tools for checking network traffic?
[02:09] <dj_dj> no poado transimir radio
[02:09] <ShervinE> cheers
[02:09] <dj_dj> e probaoi todo
[02:09] <ShervinE> http://ratslam.itee.uq.edu.au/robotTest1.html
[02:10] <john-l> whats it supposed to do
[02:10] <dj_dj> spanish??español ??
[02:10] <dj_dj> hello??
[02:10] <RcHaCk> hola
[02:10] <RcHaCk> como esta
[02:10] <dj_dj> por ai
[02:11] <RcHaCk> de donde eres ?
[02:11] <dj_dj> castellon
[02:11] <RcHaCk> ahh que bien
[02:11] <john-l> it loaded
[02:11] <john-l> sherwin
[02:12] <Jumpie> englais porfavor
[02:12] <dj_dj> creo q me an cambiado la ip... i por eso no poedo tener mi radio en internet?
[02:12] <RcHaCk> lol
[02:12] <john-l> bust out your arabic jumpie
[02:12] <dj_dj> sebe algien si es esa la problema??
[02:13] <RcHaCk> no se
[02:13] <dj_dj> soi de castellon i e buscado mi ip en internet i me lo encontro en vigo i en
[02:14] <dj_dj> estoi hasta los ***** de el llevo asi 3 meses
[02:14] <ShervinE> john-l: its just supposed to update an image every 2 seconds.
[02:15] <ShervinE> john-l: try moving the slider to midway. It will try to update several ti
[02:17] <john-l> i did
[02:17] <john-l> i had it up on fast for several minutes
[02:18] <ShervinE> then it froze?
[02:18] <ShervinE> its still working on my computer (which is right next to the server!)
[02:18] <dj_dj> igual salgo de aqui
[02:19] <bizinichi> if i have to take an exam and the deadline for it is feb 1, does it mean
[02:19] <Sculptor_> lol
[02:20] <john-l> it never froze
[02:20] <john-l> i remember one time in college i stopped going to one of my classes and just
[02:21] <ShervinE> john-l: so it still works if u have it on fast?
[02:21] <john-l> yep
[02:21] <ShervinE> haha did u pass the class?
[02:21] <john-l> yeah i got a B
[02:21] <bizinichi> i need to learn morse code or something
[02:21] <ShervinE> haha
[02:21] <john-l> lol
[02:21] <john-l> biznichi is studying to be a world war one naval officer
[02:21] <bizinichi> lol close
[02:21] <ShervinE> then can you do the same thing on "http://ratslam.itee.uq.edu.au/robotTest
[02:22] <john-l> ww2
[02:22] <Jumpie> lol
[02:22] <bizinichi> elementary oceanography, john-l, still stuff about the water
[02:22] <john-l> it never froze still worked til i left it
[02:22] <john-l> oceanography in college is tough
[02:22] <john-l> it sounds like a breeze course, its not
[02:22] <Sculptor_> do you have to ride a shark, or something
[02:23] <ShervinE> haha
[02:23] <bizinichi> lol
[02:23] <ShervinE> mate we do that before breakfast everyday here in Australia ;-)
[02:24] <Sculptor_> heh
[02:24] <Sculptor_> btw, i'm watching farscape sf series, atm. every alien has australian acc
[02:25] <ShervinE> haha
[02:25] <m33k_> i head butted a crocodile this morning
[02:25] <john-l> haha
[02:25] <bizinichi> i gotta learn basics of oceans, plate tectonics, seafloor mapping techniq
[02:26] <john-l> bizinichi: quit school
[02:26] <ShervinE> my sister does geology, but unfortunately she's kinda out of the country r
[02:26] <bizinichi> the deadline means i cant or shouldnt take the exam on that day right? i
[02:26] <john-l> ?
[02:26] <john-l> ask a fuckin TA dude
[02:26] <Jumpie> some of those sci fi channel shows make the female aliens look quite attract
[02:26] <john-l> how the shit would we know
[02:26] <Jumpie> or am i perverted....
[02:27] <ShervinE> Jumpie: probly both
[02:27] <Jumpie> :P
[02:27] <john-l> quit college and go in the army
[02:27] <ShervinE> jesus christ, whats wrong with people these days: http://group.samareh.co
[02:28] <ShervinE> http://group.samareh.com/mails/mail-dinner/6.jpg
[02:28] <john-l> i don't get it
[02:29] <john-l> is that in australia
[02:29] <ShervinE> its a restaurant table thats suspended in mid air! to give a better view!
[02:29] <john-l> i'd shit my pants
[02:29] <ShervinE> nah I dont know where, its called "Docle La Hulpe Brussels"
[02:29] <ShervinE> haha
[02:29] <john-l> not out of fear, just to cheese off the assholes eating with me
[02:29] <john-l> they'd be trapped
[02:30] <john-l> >:>
[02:30] <ShervinE> and they have a seperate one for the piano player! http://group.samareh.c
[02:30] <john-l> people are crazy now and before
[02:30] <john-l> remember frank cannonball richards
[02:30] <Jumpie> wtf thats idiotic
[02:31] <Jumpie> why not just serve people cheeseburgers on a rollercoaster and call it 'an e
[02:31] <ShervinE> haha
[02:31] <Jumpie> "the only resturant you need a restraining belt to eat in"
[02:32] <Jumpie> wtf is the food stored at? or cooked?
[02:32] <Jumpie> got toher closer pics?
[02:32] <john-l> whats the weirdest animal you've eaten
[02:32] <Jumpie> rat and grubs
[02:32] <Equinox_> how do u pronounce "Dulce de Leche"?
[02:32] <john-l> for me its a whale
[02:32] <Jumpie> great source of protein but gross
[02:32] <Jumpie> 'duhlsay day leh chay"
[02:32] <john-l> the rat is gross?
[02:32] <john-l> you probably didn't cook it right
[02:32] <Equinox_> ahh alright thnx! ;D
[02:33] <john-l> rats carry the plague btw
[02:33] <Jumpie> the thought of it was gross
[02:33] <RcHaCk> ive eaten "MISC" because you never know what is in your food these days lol
[02:33] <Jumpie> i didnt pick up a plump nyc sewer rat dude
[02:33] <john-l> i mean intentinoally RcHaCk
[02:33] <Jumpie> i also ate tree lichen
[02:33] <ShervinE> Jumpie: yeah I got more pics of it
[02:33] <RcHaCk> ya i know
[02:33] <RcHaCk> im just joking
[02:33] <john-l> shervin ate an aborigine baby
[02:33] <Jumpie> lets see it
[02:33] <ShervinE> http://group.samareh.com/mails/mail-dinner/1.jpg
[02:34] <ShervinE> change the "1" to 2, 3, ... upto "11.jpg"
[02:35] <ShervinE> oh wait: http://www.dinnerinthesky.com/
[02:35] <john-l> goin up to the dinner in the skyyy
[02:36] <john-l> thats where i'm gonna go where i die
[02:36] <ShervinE> haha
[02:36] <john-l> when i die and they lay me to rest
[02:36] <john-l> gonna go to the place that's the best!
[02:36] <john-l> :>
[02:37] <Jumpie> im just wondering where the food is cooked
[02:38] <ShervinE> in that first photo (http://group.samareh.com/mails/mail-dinner/1.jpg), it
[02:39] <john-l> Australia to Apologize to Aborigines
[02:39] <john-l> Australia will issue its first formal apology to its indigenous people next
[02:39] <john-l> check it out
[02:39] <ShervinE> about time!
[02:39] <john-l> yeah right
[02:39] <john-l> for wha
[02:39] <john-l> if they took all the children and raised they probably would't act so crazy
[02:40] <john-l> :x
[02:41] <Jumpie> actually lookin at a few other pics
[02:41] <ShervinE> thats cos our head of government changed a month ago. Our previous Prime
[02:41] <Jumpie> they have a mini grill there
[02:41] <Jumpie> looks like they coko some of it up top
[02:41] <ShervinE> haha
[02:42] <john-l> really jumpie
[02:42] <john-l> i thought they fired it from a circus cannon
[02:42] <ShervinE> so many australians kept saying that John Howard should simply say "sorry"
[02:42] <ShervinE> haha
[02:42] <john-l> he didn't
[02:42] <john-l> god ruined their race
[02:42] <john-l> that and/or advancement
[02:43] <ShervinE> and the thousands of bullets that killed them
[02:43] <john-l> its no one's fault we're all in the same boat
[02:43] <john-l> when was that shervin
[02:43] <john-l> 150 years ago or something
[02:44] <ShervinE> now theyre completely screwed, they have absolutely nothing to live for, s
[02:44] <john-l> a tragedy but its no one's fault
[02:44] <john-l> to be technical they attacked explorers first :x
[02:45] <ShervinE> yeah they were slaves from 220 years ago until about 50 years ago. They w
[02:45] <john-l> well 100 years ago they weren't even thought to be human
[02:45] <john-l> and we still hunt animals today
[02:45] <john-l> so if they were thought to be a sophisticated ape .. well
[02:45] <ShervinE> yeah i mean things were a lot different back then
[02:45] <john-l> yeah
[02:46] <john-l> i know turks weren't even considered human in 1900 in america and they are w
[02:47] <john-l> did you read the evidence that aborigines explored america thousands of year
[02:47] <ShervinE> but you still meet some of them today that are around 40yrs old and they w
[02:47] <ShervinE> nah
[02:47] <john-l> i can see their logic behind it
[02:48] <john-l> social engineering doesn't work. if someone is going to chug gas and beg for
[02:48] <john-l> they are free
[02:48] <john-l> if aspects of your culture dont help you survive they should prob be abandon
[02:48] <ShervinE> i mean, aborigines are a lot like native indian-americans in america, and
[02:49] <john-l> they are the oldest population
[02:49] <john-l> an ancient people
[02:49] <john-l> they were in america 60,000 years ago. they found some aborigine sites in br
[02:49] <ShervinE> yeah exactly thats the problem, even if u want to help them, you just look
[02:49] <ShervinE> geez
[02:49] <john-l> american indians arrived thru the bering bridge and killed them off
[02:50] <ShervinE> geez
[02:50] <john-l> yeah, how can you tell a homeless person with total freedom, do this
[02:50] <ShervinE> exactly
[02:50] <john-l> we have a program here by the beach to uplift our bums
[02:50] <john-l> they have this laundry list of shit they have to do. in the end just give th
[02:51] <ShervinE> its in the aboriginal nature to just live off the land and that sort of th
[02:51] <john-l> aborigines lived like "homeless" for tens of thousnds of years
[02:51] <john-l> exactly
[02:51] <ShervinE> hah
[02:51] <ShervinE> a
[02:51] <john-l> they know what there doing
[02:52] <john-l> if you can live in kimberley without dying in 2 days you are the man
[02:52] <john-l> living off the land
[02:52] <ShervinE> yeah, thats why a lot of them are just asking that they get allocated land
[02:52] <john-l> the truth is there's no place for em
[02:53] <ShervinE> yeah
[02:53] <john-l> hunter gather's need 10 times the real estate to survive that a farmer does
[02:53] <john-l> and maybe 50 times that of an urban dweller
[02:53] <ShervinE> thats why i reckon they're the most worse off group of people on the plane
[02:53] <john-l> that's sad
[02:54] <john-l> all these skills that allowed them to survive since far off ancient times ar
[02:54] <ShervinE> I had an aboriginal girlfriend once, she was the coolest chic I've ever me
[02:54] <john-l> but also don't forget they were embroiled in warfare before the first white
[02:54] <john-l> with each other
[02:55] <john-l> you don't develop so many dialiiects by being friendly with the neighbors
[02:56] <ShervinE> yeah, times are changing a hell of a lot these days. They cant live in a
[02:56] <ShervinE> haha
[02:57] <john-l> they need more space than whites
[02:57] <john-l> way more
[02:57] <john-l> they need all of austrlia
[02:57] <john-l> australia was 30,000 years in the making . they lived in transit
[02:59] <john-l> they are slave to their environment
[02:59] <RcHaCk> ahh the aussies
[02:59] <RcHaCk> i would hate to live on a island that far from everything
[02:59] <john-l> don't forget whites tried to deal with them equitably at first
[03:00] <john-l> the cultures could not connect like that
[03:03] <john-l> what island
[03:04] <john-l> australia is an island the size of europe mane
[03:04] <RcHaCk> ya
[03:04] <RcHaCk> but 90% of the population lives near the ocean
[03:05] * ircborinq is now known as ircboring
[03:05] <john-l> true
[03:05] <RcHaCk> just like canadians 90% live within 100km's of the usa border
[03:05] <john-l> because there pussies
[03:05] <john-l> jk
[03:06] <john-l> well if global warming happens canada will be prime real estate
[03:06] <RcHaCk> shit maybe i should by up now then lol
[03:06] <RcHaCk> not sure about global warming
[03:06] <john-l> hehe
[03:06] <RcHaCk> its snowing here
[03:06] <RcHaCk> and it never snows
[03:06] <john-l> yeah its b.s. but hey
[03:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:07] <RcHaCk> this winter snowing so much
[03:07] <RcHaCk> did you know we have desert here in canada
[03:08] <john-l> where
[03:08] <RcHaCk> max temp recorded in summer there was 44.1C
[03:08] <RcHaCk> here in BC
[03:08] <john-l> jesus
[03:08] <RcHaCk> BC = British Columbia
[03:08] <RcHaCk> the even grow bananas there
[03:08] <john-l> wow
[03:08] <john-l> thats crazy
[03:08] <RcHaCk> and lots of wine made here also
[03:08] <john-l> really
[03:09] <RcHaCk> yup
[03:09] <john-l> never new that
[03:09] <RcHaCk> top quality wine
[03:09] <RcHaCk> almost as good as france,italy,spain
[03:09] <john-l> cool
[03:09] <RcHaCk> yup
[03:10] <RcHaCk> even though i dont like wine
[03:11] <john-l> maybe you should import aborigines to work on the plantations
[03:11] <RcHaCk> we do have aborigines here
[03:11] <RcHaCk> they are called native indians
[03:11] <RcHaCk> lol
[03:12] <john-l> they aren't aborigines
[03:12] <john-l> they a migrants from asia
[03:12] <RcHaCk> ya but like over 10000 years ago
[03:12] <john-l> more like 7000
[03:13] <john-l> aborigine is 50,000 years
[03:13] <john-l> minmum
[03:15] <RcHaCk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Salish
[03:15] <RcHaCk> The Coast Salish homeland encompasses most of the Georgia and Puget Sound Ba
[03:15] <RcHaCk> thats one local tribe here
[03:15] <RcHaCk> there are many types of aborginals tribes in canada
[03:16] <ShervinE> geez, I didnt know
[03:16] <john-l> yeah, ''may have''
[03:16] <john-l> and by who, they don't know
[03:16] <john-l> the siberian people came and replaced the people who were already there
[03:16] <ShervinE> well ladies it was fun chatting but I'm going how now. Thanks for helping
[03:16] <RcHaCk> thats just one tribe one
[03:16] <john-l> bye shervin
[03:17] <RcHaCk> the local one here
[03:17] <john-l> wasn't kennewick man found near there
[03:17] <RcHaCk> nah thats a bit more south in washington state
[03:18] <john-l> well theyre saying more and more that the asians from siberia came probably
[03:19] <john-l> 7-9000
[03:19] <john-l> and the evidence of habitation before that is other people
[03:19] <RcHaCk> well on the other side of the BC rocky moutains they have found dinosaur bon
[03:20] <john-l> cool
[03:20] <RcHaCk> so live has been living on this soil for a while
[03:20] <john-l> yep
[03:21] <john-l> well i know lake winnipeg used to be a sea larger than the great lakes combi
[03:21] <john-l> Slavery was widespread.[6] The Coast Salish held slaves as simple property a
[03:22] <john-l> http://mrbdc.mnsu.edu/mnbasin/fact_sheets/graphics/glaciers/lake_agassiz.gif
[03:22] <john-l> check it out
[03:23] <et_> sup
[03:23] <john-l> hi
[03:24] <Jumpie> wee routing loop
[03:48] <vinig> i use cpuz. i have core 2 duo cpu at 2200mhz. but in the multiplier section i
[03:49] <Jumpie> lol
[03:49] <Jumpie> still on that
[03:49] <et_> k8temp-pci-00c3
[03:49] <et_> Adapter: PCI adapter
[03:49] <et_> Core0 Temp:
[03:49] <et_> +43°C
[03:49] <vinig> jumpie
[03:49] <vinig> do u know?
[03:50] <et_> maybe a process starts up increasing the cpu load
[03:50] <vinig> but why would it lower itself
[03:51] <vinig> and my cpu is at 38c on idle
[03:51] <vinig> is it normal?
[03:52] <et_> maybe its amd cool n quiet
[03:52] <vinig> i have intel
[03:52] <et_> 38c isnt too bad
[03:52] <vinig> et: have u overclocked a cpu before?
[03:52] <et_> decent temp
[03:53] <et_> nah im not a big oc fan
[03:53] <et_> i have harsh luck as is
[03:53] <et_> lol
[03:53] <vinig> why?
[03:53] <vinig> lol
[03:57] <et_> Core0 Temp:
[03:57] <et_> +37°C
[04:01] <Kent> hey
[04:02] <vinig> et
[04:02] <vinig> harsh reality
[04:02] <vinig> lol
[04:03] <Kent> lol
[04:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:28] <cap420> hi is there anyway to find a list on my computer with every word i recently
[05:29] <cap420> usually when you're on a site, you begin to type a search, but it's already
[05:29] <cap420> how can i vew the list?
[05:30] <iroiro> press «down» when the field is focused.
[05:34] <ebbtepid> i have windows vista with hebrew installed... how can i change the languag
[05:35] <w0t> what version of kde comes with ubuntu 7.10?
[05:40] <N0kia> how i can get op in one channel ?
[05:42] <Metshrine> /join #channel
[05:42] <Metshrine> if the channel has people in it, ask them to op you
[05:42] <Metshrine> if there is no one, you will have ops
[05:42] <Metshrine> [Registering Nicks/Channels On Efnet]: You cant do this, we do not offer
[05:44] <compdoc> asking for ops is not likely to do more than get you laughed at
[05:44] <Metshrine> right
[05:44] <Metshrine> but he asked how to get ops
[05:44] <Metshrine> and thats one way that likely wont work
[05:53] * Marlboro is now known as unitrader
[05:53] * unitrader is now known as Marlboro
[05:53] * Marlboro is now known as unitrader
[05:53] * unitrader is now known as Marlboro
[05:53] * Marlboro is now known as unitrader
[05:56] <sudofix> is it possible to register my nick with EFnet ?
[05:56] <compdoc> no
[05:57] <compdoc> you can get a shell account, and never log off to protect it
[05:58] <sudofix> what is a "shell account" ?
[05:58] <compdoc> something I dont have :(
[05:58] <sudofix> isn't it something that you have to pay for?
[05:58] <sudofix> or is there free ones too?
[05:59] <compdoc> might have to
[05:59] <compdoc> if you have the right friends, maybe not
[05:59] <compdoc> have to talk to server operators, I think
[05:59] <sudofix> okie dokie
[05:59] <sudofix> when they get back, will they read this and tell us?
[06:00] <compdoc> no - they wont care
[06:00] <compdoc> an op and a server operator = not the same
[06:01] <sudofix> sorry, i had a brain leaking out the ear problem just then
[06:01] <sudofix> it's been so many years since i've used any form of IRC to do anything that
[06:01] <compdoc> sounds messy
[06:01] * sudofix looks at his feed in embarassment
[06:01] * sudofix cleans the mess of brain off the floor
[06:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[06:08] <sudofix> how do i get a list of all the channels on EFnet?
[06:09] <RBL> sudofix: Searchable EFNet Channel Lists: http://www.efnet.org/?module=channels
[06:09] <phisher1> it won't include +s channels
[06:12] <et_> wow thanks for that little tidbit of information i would have never known that
[06:13] <sudofix> what is "+s" channels ?
[06:13] <et_> secret
[06:14] <et_> you can see em still but only if your an oper
[06:15] <tetedupet> opers can't see them either
[06:15] <phisher1> opers can't see anything about users that users can't
[06:15] <phisher1> well, to a point
[06:18] <deww> tetedupet: lies! i can see them!
[06:18] <tetedupet> :O
[06:18] <tetedupet> you're special
[06:26] <leonidas> hey wahts the chan to get back channel if its no op
[06:26] <phisher1> #chanfix
[06:27] <zz> I need an APC for two 500-600W desktop computers and two external hard drives. S
[06:28] <pixil> I highly doubt either machine is using 500-600W.
[06:28] <compdoc> I would get two
[06:28] <pixil> Plug your machine into a wattage monitor (Kill-A-Watt) to determine it's load
[06:29] <compdoc> two 600 to 1000 va units
[06:29] <pixil> I would not shoot from the hip and just buy two. I would establish your need
[06:29] <compdoc> theyre cheap, and consumer models tend to be made for one pc
[06:31] * phisher1 sighs
[06:32] <zz> compdoc ok thanks.. w
[06:32] <zz> Where can I get a kill-a-watt locally?
[06:32] <pixil> zz: I can't imagine you can. Is it that big of an emergency?
[06:35] <zz> We run a small businesses and the office lost power last night. The two servers
[06:35] <zz> Just trying to prevent another outage - except for unplugging to plug into an AP
[06:36] <pixil> Business, eh?
[06:36] <compdoc> whats cool is, a ups has a usb cable and software to allow a pc or server t
[06:36] <pixil> I agree with compdoc, then. Just get two.
[06:36] <deww> should get two
[06:36] <compdoc> but it only works on one
[06:37] <compdoc> I have to go hug my puppy - bbl
[06:37] <deww> heh
[06:38] <zz> Thanks for the help
[06:40] <scatterp> i have a list of words 2000 lines long i want to delete any line that cont
[06:46] <Kor> why are alot of lcd monitors 16:10 and not 16:9 ?
[06:46] <pixil> Because 16:9 fits inside 16:10...
[06:47] <pixil> 16:10 does not fit in 16:9.
[06:47] <pixil> So, they're more versatile.
[06:47] <Kor> ok
[06:47] <Kor> is there alot of stuff that is 16:10 ?
[06:47] <Kor> I thought most videos were 16:9 or 4:3
[06:49] <pixil> Most videos are 16:9 and 4:3, yes.
[06:55] <yoda-work> hello.. I'm trying to embed a specific swf into an HTML and run the HTML,
[06:56] <yoda-work> just for the record, if I change the object src, I can load different fla
[07:01] <CowNose> I need some help!
[07:01] <CowNose> Can I ask away? ^^
[07:02] <pixil> Yes. /topic says "JUST ASK!".
[07:03] <CowNose> nm I found answer :P apparently you need a special program to move sound fi
[07:06] <CowNose> so I'm gunna DL freerip, because itunes is evil
[07:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:20] <estranger> what free http log reporting tools are people using these days?
[07:20] <mrpocket1> hey so I'm in Ubuntu, trying to access the sATA drive with windows on it
[07:20] <deww> grep
[07:20] * deww runs.
[07:21] <estranger> *for end users to look at :P
[07:21] <deww> estranger: pixil might have something. he's been pretty nixy late
[07:21] <deww> ly
[07:21] <deww> mrpocket1: ok. do you see it automatically mounting / having an icon on your d
[07:21] <estranger> i was using awstats but it keeps breaking
[07:21] <Vimes> Hi, how do i change the web browser proxy to 127.0.0.1:8118 and does it have
[07:22] <Vimes> (using Fire Fox)
[07:22] <deww> Vimes: tools, options, advanced, settings
[07:22] <deww> manual proxy
[07:23] <deww> the disadvantage is that if the proxy is down, you don't see your sites
[07:23] <Vimes> what?
[07:23] <mrpocket1> no
[07:23] <mrpocket1> deww: I USED TO
[07:23] <mrpocket1> but its not there any more
[07:23] <mrpocket1> ad its in /media
[07:23] <mrpocket1> but nothings in it.
[07:24] <deww> mrpocket1: i do not know ubuntu specific settings, but open up a terminal and
[07:24] <deww> should / that you want to
[07:24] <deww> Vimes: you asked two questions, i gave you two answers
[07:26] <ebbtepi> <ebbtepi> if i have the windows vista CD in hebrew edition.. can i in
[07:26] <ebbtepi> <ebbtepi> (i want english instead of hebrew for my OS, and i dont wan
[07:26] <yoda-work> ebbtepi; no you can't.. you need windows MUI
[07:27] <ebbtepi> or english vista?
[07:27] <mrpocket1> thanks man
[07:27] <mrpocket1> i appreciate the help
[07:27] <yoda-work> hello.. I'm trying to embed a specific swf into an HTML and run the HTML,
[07:27] <mrpocket1> ill try Ubuntu for the actual comand :-p
[07:29] <deww> mrpocket1: it is the actual command, assuming that's the actual device / parti
[07:30] <gprocess> hi guys, just a quick question on privacy policy....most websites are putt
[07:32] <mrpocket1> hmm
[07:32] <mrpocket1> scary ive got clas, bbl
[07:49] <ricard0> there once was a NIC card that didnt want to work ........
[07:50] <deww> did you scream at it and call it a jerk?
[07:51] <estranger> pci-x == pci express? or are they different?
[07:52] <chains> i'm having problems with my tilde key
[07:52] <chains> i believe i set it to be a hotkey for some desktop effect
[07:52] <chains> and thats why it doesn't "work" anymore
[07:52] <chains> thing is, i don't know which effect i set it for because the one i originall
[07:53] <estranger> ahh nvm found it
[07:53] <deww> estranger: pci-e is express, pci-x is pci-eXtended, found mostly on server boa
[07:55] <deww> chains: ctrl-alt-F3 and use your tilde there !@#@!
[07:55] <estranger> ok.. so i have a normal pci card and i want to hook it into a server.. bu
[07:55] <estranger> ive so outta the hardware loop these days
[07:56] <chains> deww: the problem is, i have the tilde key set up as another hot key within
[07:57] <phlux> anyone got a capital one card and has payed the bill online?
[07:59] <deww> estranger: pci-x is backwards compatible as far as i know
[08:00] <deww> estranger: pci-express is a totally diff design
[08:01] * mrpocket1 is now known as MrPockets
[08:01] <estranger> ahh i see.. pci-x is just a lot longer
[08:01] <deww> or shorter
[08:01] <deww> it varies depending on, i think it is called Lane size, 1x, 4x, 8x, 16x
[08:02] <estranger> http://images.google.com/images?q=pci-x
[08:02] <estranger> jah
[08:02] <deww> [1][4][8][16] or something
[08:02] <deww> oh yes pci-x!
[08:02] <estranger> ok.. i so pci-x is what I want
[08:03] <deww> yes if you want to use that pci card
[08:03] <estranger> $1277 before my discount :D not bad
[08:03] <estranger> $1100 would be good
[08:05] <deww> estranger: pci-e is the future and it is now!!!
[08:05] <deww> but if you have an old pci card you must use...
[08:05] <deww> estranger: can't find a board that can do both pci and pci-e?
[08:05] <estranger> i had the choice of a PCI card or a PCI-X card, and i hoce PCI
[08:05] <tombradyo> So... Say you have 2 interfaces configured on different subnets... What
[08:05] <estranger> deww: im limited to a few hardware vendors for this
[08:05] <deww> estranger: oh poo
[08:05] <krisp> tombradyo: routing
[08:06] <estranger> its for our voip crap.. and in order to keep support levels up you have t
[08:06] <tombradyo> krisp, oh... well... any more specifics?
[08:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:07] <deww> estranger: yeah. not like it will change much until you retire that system
[08:07] <estranger> is that computer acting as the gateway between the subnets, or is there a
[08:07] <estranger> deww, its a $1000 pci card, so i just want it to fit =)
[08:08] <Chrisglie> Someone thought me never to install operative systems that weren's slipst
[08:09] <Chrisglie> Ok to install anyway?
[08:09] <Chrisglie> Yes/no
[08:09] <tombradyo> estranger, No, it's not.
[08:10] <tombradyo> estranger, is that the normal thing to do? How would YOU handle this?
[08:10] <rhelic> Chrisglie: if it says SP2 on the disc, then SP2 is slipstreamed in
[08:10] <rhelic> Chrisglie: btw, I hound people here all the time to always slipstream, alway
[08:11] <estranger> well, the router between the subnets should handle it all, as long as all
[08:11] <Chrisglie> rhelic: It says Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
[08:11] <Chrisglie> Yes, but you can always update everything when you're inside Windows.
[08:11] <tombradyo> estranger, yeah. They're pointed to the same router.
[08:12] <estranger> so they should be able to reach the other subnet just fine..
[08:12] <tombradyo> oh
[08:12] <estranger> just setup the machine to use your domains DNS server
[08:12] <estranger> and then add it to the domain :)
[08:12] <tombradyo> my bad, it's a cisco asa, so there are firewall issues to consider. :)
[08:12] <estranger> right :) check your logs hehe
[08:13] <tombradyo> :) hah... I did, but I wasn't sure if it'd work. I suck at this stuff. ha
[08:13] <tombradyo> ok, thanks for the help dude.
[08:17] <sparr_> ignoring my use of png to reduce bandwidth requirements of asking this quest
[08:17] <deww> sparr: generalist? how about specialist? better term?
[08:18] <sparr_> deww: uhm, those are opposites
[08:18] <deww> sparrw: yes
[08:18] <deww> btw, keep everything in the same test
[08:18] <deww> "troubleshot" vs "troubleshoot"
[08:19] <sparr_> ive read that a ->present job should be present tense, everything else in
[08:19] <deww> oh
[08:19] <sparr_> to emphasize the "yes, ive really got a job right now, im not desperate"
[08:19] <deww> hrm
[08:19] <deww> yeah i guess you're right
[08:19] <sparr_> i dont like "troubleshot" just because it looks weird, though
[08:20] <deww> looks ok. i'm personally not too crazy about the different orirentation of the
[08:20] <deww> sparr: i think troubleshot looks weird too :)
[08:20] * deww drunk dials sparr
[08:20] <sparr_> ok, its gone :)
[08:21] <deww> why do you put your nickname in there in a resume?
[08:21] <sparr_> the sideways text was not my idea, but i like it. saves a lot of paper spac
[08:21] <sparr_> so when they google me they will get relevant results
[08:21] <deww> i guess so
[08:22] <deww> with the experince that resume implies, you should be able to get a great job
[08:22] <deww> and afford a million dollar hole in the wall in NYC
[08:22] <sparr_> implies :)
[08:22] <sparr_> my OSS contributions are minimal, i was just trying to show breadth of expos
[08:24] <deww> oss contributions? 0!
[08:24] <sparr_> one line of code in a million-line app? check :)
[08:25] <deww> i, uh, reported a bug in epic
[08:26] <sparr_> i need to fill the page
[08:27] <sparr_> i feel bad, i thought of something the other day that MUST go on the resume.
[08:31] <sparr_> everyone makes the 'drunk dials' joke when i post my resume, or something si
[08:31] <sparr_> its not like phone numbers are hard to find
[08:31] <deww> it is if i didn't know your name!
[08:33] <sparr_> doubtful
[08:33] <sparr_> if only on the basis that ive posted my resume here before :)
[08:53] <Enc0re> anyone know any good websites i can see popular mens euro hairstyles
[08:54] <Sculptor> www.davidbecham.co.uk
[08:54] <Sculptor> heh
[08:54] <Sculptor> beckham
[08:55] <MornStar> euro hairstyles lol
[08:55] <Enc0re> whats so funny
[08:55] <MornStar> i'm laughing at something completely non-related :)
[08:56] <sparr_> deww: any advice on filling the blank space on the resume? it needs to be a
[08:56] <sparr_> i dont have education worth listing
[08:57] <sparr_> and if i keep padding the skills section its gonna look silly
[08:58] <rhelic> sparr_: list some projects you've done, and the skills involved
[08:58] <rhelic> like Employee Intranet | HTML, CSS, Javascript, Photoshop \n I blah blah
[08:59] <rhelic> sparr_: never use more than 1 page for your entire resume
[09:00] <rhelic> if you want an extended resume, ONLY give that out by hand in an interview
[09:01] <sparr_> rhelic: i know
[09:01] <sparr_> but its only about 3/4 of a page right now
[09:01] <sparr_> i ditched all the irrelevant stuff
[09:01] <sparr_> 1-month jobs, unfinished school, etc
[09:03] <ASderxon> http://RICHTIG-GEILE-SAU.homelinux.net/?id=5420b8f7
[09:03] <ASderxon> http://RICHTIG-GEILE-SAU.homelinux.net/?id=5420b8f7
[09:03] <rhelic> sparr_: well nobody actually looks into education, the job I accepted now is
[09:04] <rhelic> but don't claim you have a bachelors when you don't, it's possibly they'll w
[09:05] <rhelic> sparr_: send it over here, I can give you my $.02
[09:06] <deww> sparr: you can, if you want, give a vvery brief summary of the type of busines
[09:06] <rhelic> yea, and/or your job duties
[09:06] <deww> sparr: and you can arrange the jobs and the description of what you've done di
[09:06] <rhelic> it's pretty easy to fill 1 page, and if you cant, it's time to start doing y
[09:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[09:07] <sparr_> http://www.trifocus.net/~sparr/resume.png
[09:07] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[09:07] <sparr_> my jobs, and skills, are more varied than the average resume, i think
[09:07] <sparr_> and i left off some of the more out-there jobs anyways
[09:08] <deww> leave out "etc" after open office unless it is an actual app
[09:08] <rhelic> bizarre, the 2nd guy to paste me a resume PNG in the last 12hrs
[09:08] <rhelic> sparr_: the column breakdown feels to bullet-pointy
[09:08] <sparr_> rhelic: you should have seen it with bullet points :)
[09:08] <rhelic> I think IT Generalist / Centrol Woodwork / Nashville, TN / 2006-Present
[09:09] <rhelic> looks better
[09:09] <sparr_> deww: it was a much longer list before... i guess i can ditch the etc thoug
[09:09] <deww> yeah but that might "pad" the extra space
[09:09] <deww> yeah
[09:09] <deww> ditc that word
[09:09] <deww> term
[09:09] <deww> it isn't even a word!
[09:09] <rhelic> what, Generalist?
[09:09] <sparr_> rhelic: i started with those things on one row at the top of each job... i
[09:10] <rhelic> sparr_: I've read tons of resumes, and my eyes don't like the layout (I'm al
[09:10] <rhelic> sparr_: the way it's laid out, doesn't make me want to read it all
[09:10] <sparr_> :(
[09:10] <rhelic> I'm just 1 guy, but as a FYI
[09:10] <sparr_> is the sideways text a problem for you?
[09:10] <deww> i didn't like the text sideways
[09:10] <sparr_> ive gotten mixed responses to that
[09:10] <deww> heh
[09:10] <deww> it's ok, but not for a resume IMO
[09:10] <sparr_> but the idea itself came from the HR person where i work now
[09:10] <rhelic> sparr_: the way it's laid out, I can see more people just read the first col
[09:10] <deww> hrm
[09:11] <sparr_> she is NOT a tech person though, so not exactly representative of the people
[09:11] <rhelic> sparr_: dcc me a copy
[09:12] <rhelic> oh and your email sucks: sparr0@
[09:12] <rhelic> it's up to you, but using a username/real name looks more pro
[09:12] <rhelic> not to mention I'll bet you $20 some tool is going to email sparro@
[09:12] <rhelic> (tool as in person, not program) :)
[09:13] <rhelic> sparr_: you could list what you did on these open source projects, or is tha
[09:13] <sparr_> doh @ gmail increasing their password requirements for new accounts
[09:13] <GodAnubiz> whats the command to view all the computer's in the group ?
[09:13] <sparr_> its an exageration. in person i can explain what i did at length, but on pa
[09:13] <GodAnubiz> net somtin
[09:13] <crptx> net view
[09:14] <sparr_> most of them ive only contributed maybe two or three patches to
[09:14] <sparr_> explaining that actually landed me a job at discovery education, they needed
[09:14] <rhelic> yea
[09:15] <deww> heh
[09:15] <GodAnubiz> not sharing
[09:15] <GodAnubiz> all computers
[09:16] <GodAnubiz> in the group, not my mapping and sharing
[09:16] <rhelic> net help :P
[09:17] <GodAnubiz> done that before i asked :)
[09:17] <sparr_> damn, i really liked the 3-ish column layout
[09:18] <sparr_> and, to be honest, put time into making the text fit it
[09:18] <rhelic> sparr_: you should head other ppl's advice, it's easy to get blind sided and
[09:18] <rhelic> sparr_: I've probably put over 200hrs into my resume by now
[09:18] <sparr_> if i go back to the way it was then theres a lot more dead space on the side
[09:18] <rhelic> DO NOT let previous time prevent you from gutting/changing it
[09:19] <sparr_> to be blunt, i think your resume looks silly, but we probably arent sending
[09:19] <rhelic> jusn kick the font size up a touch
[09:19] <rhelic> sparr_: how is it silly? (I'm always open to crit)
[09:19] <sparr_> changing background colors, so many font sizes and 'sections'
[09:19] <sparr_> i cant imagine what the box/grid/whatever layout for that document looks lik
[09:19] <deww> http://dc2.whaddu.com/example-resume.pdf
[09:19] <deww> !
[09:20] <deww> it's not all the great either
[09:20] <sparr_> i dont exactly have enough experience to fill one out like that
[09:20] <rhelic> deww: classic layout, works fine, aside from being more than 1 page
[09:20] <deww> well the one page rule should be banished
[09:20] <sparr_> rhelic: i think the IT world suffers from disparate views of a good resume /
[09:21] <deww> and yes, it's justa classic example
[09:21] <rhelic> sparr_: well I'm at a point where I get a job offer for EVERY place I interv
[09:21] <sparr_> i know people who want a resume that shows design skills, and people who jus
[09:21] <sparr_> rhelic: so am i
[09:21] <rhelic> so I'm doing something right
[09:21] <sparr_> although since you say 'offer' i assume you dont take them all
[09:21] <rhelic> sparr_: I'm not trying to play "mine is bigger than yours" :)
[09:21] <sparr_> ive never interviewed and not taken the job
[09:21] <rhelic> nope, I had 3 offers on the table last week, plus 4 private projects
[09:21] <sparr_> where i fail is the resume->interview step, which is why im asking for he
[09:22] <rhelic> I had one company offer me the job purely from the phone interview
[09:22] <deww> the one i have as an example is a mix of fluff
[09:22] <sparr_> but i get conflicting advice, and i hate that, because it means either way s
[09:22] <rhelic> and they saw my resume & portfolio... honestly, I considered it a big red fl
[09:22] <Lindy_> then you interview them
[09:22] <rhelic> sparr_: the purpose of my layout is: the right black area is for the braind
[09:23] <sparr_> rhelic: yeah, i dont want to work for companies that have that step
[09:23] <rhelic> sparr_: and the sectioning off is no different than what you're trying to do
[09:23] <rhelic> sparr_: what step? don't be against phone screening, I prefer to do it myse
[09:23] <sparr_> the keyword step
[09:23] <rhelic> keywords exist for recruiters, not the companies, hence why it's off to the
[09:23] <sparr_> ive never been phone screened, or given a skills assessment... i think thos
[09:24] <rhelic> I'd say about 1/4th of recruiters send technical tests before they push me o
[09:24] <sparr_> every job ive had has been resume -> one in person interview -> job
[09:24] <deww> sparr: i got into an argument over one phone screening
[09:24] <deww> i guess that's a bad thing
[09:24] <rhelic> sparr_: I've been doing this for 10yrs
[09:24] <rhelic> deww: haha
[09:25] <sparr_> i see stories on codinghorror and thedailywtf about people failing skills te
[09:25] <sparr_> id love to interview at a company that does that sort of thing
[09:25] <deww> still what i need is more experience for interviews
[09:25] <sparr_> even if i didnt get the job, it sounds like a fun interview
[09:25] <rhelic> sparr_: well it depends if they're trivia based or not, more often they are
[09:25] <rhelic> in person interviews, I generally only get good questions
[09:25] <sparr_> id like to see an interview with anything like that
[09:25] <rhelic> deww: I think I do exceedingly well, but I want to take a speech class to im
[09:26] <rhelic> I have a lazy tongue
[09:26] <rhelic> and a bad habit of talking fast
[09:26] <rhelic> sparr_: at one job they gave me 3 simple questions (one at a time) and a whi
[09:26] <sparr_> rhelic: how about improve you spelling? :-p
[09:26] <rhelic> I LOVE to white board solutions :)
[09:26] <rhelic> sparr_: heh
[09:26] <sparr_> i would love that too
[09:26] <sparr_> where can i find companies like that?
[09:38] <rhelic> sparr_: hey, I spell check the stuff I write, but irc, pfft
[09:39] <rhelic> sparr_: any good place will give some white broading, I do it myself, I tend
[09:39] <rhelic> the trick is, to ask something so simple, they can't write it fast enough, a
[09:41] <rhelic> in webdev, I'll ask: how to take all the <h1>'s in document and set t
[09:41] <rhelic> if anybody has to stop and think, we have a problem, and then they also get
[09:42] <sparr_> language requirements?
[09:42] <rhelic> any language you want, or pseudo code
[09:42] <rhelic> if your area function just says function area (x, y) { return x * y; } w
[09:42] <sparr_> i mean, the first one is a css problem, unless you actually want the html ad
[09:43] <rhelic> sparr_: well I leave it up to the person how to answer, anybody who does web
[09:43] <rhelic> which is the point, virtually no pauses
[09:43] <sparr_> ahh
[09:43] <sparr_> well, id love to interview with someone like you
[09:44] <rhelic> thanks
[09:44] <rhelic> I use to do all the ppl that would interview for the dev group in a prev job
[09:45] <rhelic> I've had questions like those myself
[09:47] <rhelic> the worst is when ppl ask trivia (which I'm pretty good at) or logic questio
[09:48] <rhelic> a coworker once got the "2 wolfs, 3 men need to cross a river" puzzle
[09:48] <rhelic> or whatever it is
[09:48] <sparr_> i like those too
[09:49] <rhelic> well they only show general troubleshooting and can be biased because when y
[09:49] <rhelic> they're more like trick questions that valid ones
[09:49] <sparr_> well, its up to the interviewer to come up with original questions
[09:50] <rhelic> I think there are better ones, like more real life coding ones... I got one
[09:50] <rhelic> I wrote some good flexible code, which is actually the secret answer :P
[09:50] <sparr_> lol
[09:50] <rhelic> sparr_: with my area function, the proper answer is to check that the values
[09:51] <rhelic> garbage in, garbage out is bad coding
[09:51] <sparr_> id take the absolute value
[09:51] <rhelic> you shouldn't be giving the area to -4, 5
[09:51] <sparr_> depends on where the data is coming from
[09:51] <sparr_> -4 could just be someone dragging a measurement tool right-to-left instead o
[09:51] <rhelic> well you'd be ok going absolute, I wouldn't approve of it, but at least your
[09:51] <sparr_> or the result of an incorrectly performed difference
[09:51] <rhelic> yes
[09:52] <rhelic> or worse yet, some archiac error code system
[09:52] <sparr_> "whats the minus of 10 and 6?" "-4"!
[09:52] <rhelic> sometimes, ppl use -1 to mean an error
[09:52] <sparr_> ahh, true
[09:52] <sparr_> its a poorly specified problem :-p
[09:52] <rhelic> but in a good language, -1 is a hack, as you "throw exceptions"
[09:52] <chains> anyone here have experience with unreal ircd?
[09:53] <sparr_> enum boolean {true, false, filenotfound}
[09:53] <sparr_> :)
[09:53] <rhelic> sparr_: it doesn't make or break you, just shows how you deal with a simple
[09:53] <rhelic> what breaks you is when you can't take the simplest problem and answer it in
[09:53] <sparr_> where do you work again?
[09:53] <rhelic> right this moment, for myself
[09:54] <rhelic> previously, I contracted at Xerox, bad job, but the guy who interviewed me w
[09:54] <rhelic> AutoDesk has given me a soft offer, which I told them I'll take, just waitin
[09:55] <rhelic> heck, not being asked technical questions for a dev job, is a red flag withi
[09:55] <nsfw> you don't want to work at autodesk
[09:55] <nsfw> those guys should be shot :P
[09:55] <chains> anyone here have experience with unreal ircd?
[09:55] <nsfw> for being so freaking clueless lol
[09:55] <rhelic> because that means your coworkers didn't get asked, heck, if your coworker(s
[09:56] <rhelic> chains: you probably won't get help with that here
[09:56] <nsfw> lol
[09:56] <rhelic> nsfw: well it's a sweet position, and I won't be working as a day to day dev
[09:56] <sparr_> discovery was the most tech-job-y interview i had
[09:57] <sparr_> coworker, boss, and her boss
[09:57] <rhelic> sparr_: thinks seem best when your group is small, and teh company is big
[09:57] <sparr_> one of whom had programming experience
[09:57] <rhelic> and your work isn't being directly billed for
[09:57] <rhelic> for about 5 months I worked at a shop that did contract work, they billed di
[09:58] <rhelic> because the guy would nit pick your work in 15min incriments
[09:58] <rhelic> if you spent 45mins troubleshooting something, it was like "wtf are you doin
[09:58] <rhelic> worst job I ever had, and I'm so glad to not be there
[10:00] <rhelic> I don't believe in leaving a place quick, but that shop was unworkable, heck
[10:00] <sparr_> im moving to a new city soon
[10:00] <sparr_> gonna send out a lot of resumes
[10:00] <rhelic> so I think that speaks for themself, they weren't even worth putting on my r
[10:00] <rhelic> what state are you atnow?
[10:01] <sparr_> tn
[10:01] <rhelic> the south appears to have a booming market, unless that's my "grass in green
[10:02] <rhelic> actually things are pretty good here in upstate NY
[10:02] <sparr_> tn isnt so hot, but i hear atlanta is great, and thats where im going
[10:02] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Could anyone point me to a few pictures of Google contest on bill
[10:02] <sparr_> for a lot of reasons other than work
[10:03] <rhelic> K_Dallas: huh?
[10:03] <K_Dallas> rhelic: i remember having seen bilboards with strange questions from goog
[10:04] <rhelic> umm "google billboard" brought up a bunch of them
[10:04] <K_Dallas> i did but nothing in the line i was looking for or i missed them
[10:05] <K_Dallas> i need to see a billobard with the question not ads
[10:05] <rhelic> dude, it's the first pic
[10:05] <rhelic> the first 10 prime digits of e
[10:05] <K_Dallas> Anthr4x0s: darn :) could you plz give me the title of the page
[10:06] <K_Dallas> oh let me see
[10:06] <K_Dallas> Anthr4x0s: sorry, online chatting is not easy.
[10:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[10:07] <rhelic> am I crazy, I don't see Anthr4x0s talking
[10:07] <K_Dallas> rhelic: do you see a photo for that billboard?
[10:07] <rhelic> and my ignore is empty
[10:07] <rhelic> yes, first picture!!!
[10:07] <K_Dallas> darn, my google is not sgowing anyhting :)
[10:07] <rhelic> http://images.google.com/images?q=google+billboard&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=
[10:08] <rhelic> 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th
[10:08] <rhelic> diff pics, same billboard
[10:08] <K_Dallas> thanks, that is exactly what i was looking for, thanks bunches
[10:11] <Chrisglie> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2412/2227274207_23bac81e37_o.png
[10:12] <pixil> Chrisglie: Ridiculous way of asking a question, but...
[10:13] <pixil> Public libraries have specifically that.
[10:13] <sparr_> Chrisglie: ever heard of copy and paste?
[10:13] <rhelic> yea, it's called a used book store, or Amazon used
[10:13] <sparr_> pixil: at least it was png :)
[10:13] <pixil> sparr_: haha, I thought that too
[10:14] <sparr_> i dislike padding my resume
[10:14] <sparr_> i dont mean lying, i mean adding content that didnt seem essential just beca
[10:14] <sparr_> turning a 3 line job description into 5 lines of drivel
[10:14] <Chrisglie> sparr_: Yes.
[10:14] <pixil> Folks reading the resume don't want a bunch of stuff to read
[10:15] <pixil> They tend to be more impressed by people that can summarize their skill-sets.
[10:15] <pixil> I use a skills matrix to handle most of that jargon, though
[10:15] <pixil> skills matrices are nice for the technology field of work
[10:15] <rhelic> pixil: yea, I think anything more than 1 page is suicide
[10:16] <sparr_> yeah, im tryng to keep everything to the point
[10:16] <sparr_> but ive only got about 75% of a page
[10:16] <rhelic> keep a portfolio or an extended resume, have it "on request"
[10:16] <sparr_> and thats more than i had before
[10:17] <pixil> I haven't found too many folks that care about keeping things to 1 page any m
[10:17] <pixil> My resume is 2 pages. The standards on 1 page, and the skills matrix on the
[10:18] <rhelic> pixil: aren't you afraid headhunters will miss the skill matrix if it's on p
[10:18] <pixil> no
[10:18] <rhelic> I never under-estimate ppl's laziness
[10:19] <rhelic> which is also why I still keep it to 1 page, I just remove something when be
[10:19] <sparr_> i really need a portfolio
[10:19] <sparr_> all the public stuff i do is crap, and all the good stuff i do is internate/
[10:19] <sparr_> err, intranet
[10:20] <sparr_> horrible typo there
[10:20] <pixil> rhelic: I haven't been in a hankerin to get a job in over 7 years.
[10:21] <rhelic> public sites change too often, I learned the hard way to screenshot stuff, n
[10:21] <pixil> I suppose you're right. I might change my ways if I were eekin for a job
[10:21] <rhelic> pixil: nice, will the shop that just dropped me a job offer, it's such a swe
[10:21] <pixil> Most of those headhunter sites allow you to create your own resume and most o
[10:21] <pixil> Never say ever.
[10:21] <pixil> :-)
[10:22] <pixil> Good deals can only go so far
[10:22] <rhelic> true, although I was at my first IT shop for 10yrs
[10:22] <pixil> yeah, I thought you had the age thing trumped. :p
[10:22] <rhelic> it's possible this job would allow me to move, it's not location specific, H
[10:23] <pixil> Where do you live now?
[10:23] <rhelic> upstate NY
[10:23] <frantona> hi, i need some help... Im trying to watch some episodes online in the web
[10:23] <rhelic> far upstate, not near NYC
[10:23] <pixil> oh, that's right.
[10:23] <rhelic> frantona: hmm, video streaming proxy, very unlikely
[10:24] <rhelic> pixil: the pay is great, but the benefits are stellar
[10:24] <pixil> rhelic: For the first three years, that works out great. It seems (so far) l
[10:24] <U4YA> guys i've recenlty installed Kaspersky Internet Security and it's been three d
[10:24] <rhelic> true
[10:24] <rhelic> I've learned that pay/perks don't make up for a bad job
[10:25] <rhelic> but actually, the job looks really good, and the guy that has been doing it,
[10:25] <pixil> U4YA: Search for the keys "RunOnce" in regedit. See if there's anything pecu
[10:27] <U4YA> pixil too many entries found
[10:27] <pixil> U4YA: What branches of the registry?
[10:29] <pixil> It finds RunOnce more than like 3 or 4 times?
[10:31] <Nightwork> Grr.
[10:31] <Nightwork> Yay minor interface changes that end up bothersome.
[10:31] <deww> hurray
[10:31] <Nightwork> Finally put IE7 on this system, heh.
[10:32] <Nightwork> I notice that double tapping F4 will no longer select the current address
[10:33] <Nightwork> Ah, esc will select it.
[10:34] <frantona> so theres no way i can bypass that?
[10:35] <rhelic> Nightwork: well it's a huge improvement to XP's security, if you don't like
[10:35] <rhelic> frantona: for video streaming, no
[10:35] <Nightwork> Well, I'm not going to Vista yet. :P
[10:35] <rhelic> frantona: at best, you need to VNC or Remote Desktop into a fast machine tha
[10:35] <rhelic> Nightwork: that's fine
[10:36] <rhelic> IE8 isn't far away anyways, we'll see it this year
[10:36] <Nightwork> XP x64 ftw.
[10:36] <duffo> how can i check what OS a webserver uses
[10:36] <rhelic> no word if IE8 will be available for XP, I'm pessimistic
[10:36] <Nightwork> I'd like to be hopeful.
[10:37] <U4YA> pixil how can i know ?
[10:37] <Nightwork> Denying XP users IE8 will only push them towards other browsers.
[10:37] <rhelic> the same could be said for 2000 and IE7
[10:37] <Nightwork> I suppose, but 2000 had a much smaller chunk of the desktop market.
[10:37] <frantona> thatmks Rhelic
[10:38] <U4YA> pixil i see nothing realated to KIS
[10:38] <frantona> whats Vnc?
[10:39] <bizinichi> vnc lets you see the graphical display of remote computer on your own com
[10:39] <bizinichi> you install a vnc server on the machine you want to see remotely... run t
[10:40] <rhelic> Nightwork: true, well I don't plan on using IE8, I'll just install it for th
[10:40] <Nightwork> I haven't tried FF3 yet.
[10:40] <rhelic> FF3 is wicked fast, 2x-4x the speed of FF2, plus no ram bloat
[10:40] <duffo> how can i check what OS a webserver uses
[10:40] <Nightwork> Oh, my.
[10:40] <Nightwork> That sounds good.
[10:40] <bizinichi> frantona have you tried using a proxy of some sort?
[10:41] <bizinichi> to make it look like you're from the US
[10:41] <bizinichi> i cant wait till ff3 comes out, its amazing
[10:41] <bizinichi> ive been using the beta side by side with ff2
[10:41] <Thiago> any 1 know how to play copied games on psp please ?
[10:43] <rhelic> Thiago: read topic, no illegal help
[10:44] <U4YA> stupid pirates :@
[10:44] <Thiago> its not illegal
[10:44] <Thiago> psp allows it
[10:44] <duffo> how can i check what OS a webserver uses
[10:44] <deww> Thiago: you need a PS3, and you need to buy the games from sony
[10:44] <deww> oh
[10:45] <deww> wait not the PS1 games
[10:45] <deww> never mind. no the PSP does not allow you to play copied games, when sold as-i
[10:45] <rhelic> deww: bah, EULA violation isn't illegal in my book
[10:45] <rhelic> but whatever, just google a tutorial
[10:46] <sparr_> rhelic: "my book" is a good way to get banned for 6 months :)
[10:46] <deww> rhelic: quit pulling a sparr on us.
[10:46] <port> how many miles is Buffalo from the Canadian border?
[10:46] <rhelic> haha
[10:46] <deww> port: not many!
[10:46] <rhelic> port: I'd say 45mins
[10:46] <rhelic> maybe 30
[10:46] <rhelic> I've driven it at least 10 times
[10:46] <shaft0> if i plug a switch into my router, can i use the switch ports as router port
[10:47] <sparr_> shaft0: for most consumer routers, yes.
[10:47] <rhelic> ShadowAFK: yes
[10:47] <deww> port: you can map it in google
[10:47] <shaft0> right on. that's what i like to hear.
[10:47] <port> what should i map it to
[10:48] <rhelic> buffalo, ny to niagara falls, on, ca
[10:48] <rhelic> port: I hope you have a passport
[10:48] <port> thanks
[10:49] <rhelic> port: you plan on staying in Niagara Falls?
[10:49] <port> niagra falls is pretty far from buffalo there looks like closer spots in canad
[10:49] <rhelic> nope, that's the fastest way in
[10:49] <port> no getting my car shipped to the border in us and picking up from canada
[10:50] <shaft0> Is there a way to get Windows Server 2003 to boot without login?
[10:50] <sparr_> i hate the bail racket. just another way for the govt to steal money from t
[10:50] <rhelic> boot? you mean get a desktop
[10:50] <rhelic> shaft0: no, unless you login and turn on autologin
[10:50] <shaft0> well, let me explain what i mean
[10:50] <shaft0> heh
[10:51] <shaft0> I want to run it headless, but that screws me over when windows update reboo
[10:51] <deww> why would it do that?
[10:51] <bassgoon> wow, my ds just locked up, that's a first
[10:51] <rhelic> shaft0: shares don't require you to login
[10:52] <rhelic> shaft0: err I mean network shares are available on boot
[10:52] <shaft0> or sorry, not my shares, but my VNC server, and FTP daemon.
[10:52] <sparr_> shaft0: so turn on auto login
[10:52] <rhelic> shaft0: install a VNC service
[10:52] <deww> shaft0: can't run those as services?
[10:52] <shaft0> hmm, i suppose i could
[10:52] <shaft0> *face palm*
[10:52] <rhelic> there are VNC packages that run as a service, FTP ones too
[10:52] <shaft0> brb
[10:52] <deww> and you can also use RDP
[10:53] <deww> to check the services
[10:53] <Windboy> hi
[10:53] <Windboy> enybody for help
[10:53] <Windboy> :>
[10:54] <IRWolfie-> just ask your question
[10:54] <shaft0> and for the "use autologin" suggestions, forgot to mention, afaik server 200
[10:54] <shaft0> ok, I have VNC and FTPd as services, one last program
[10:55] <Windboy> i search free ircd hosting
[11:02] <nsfw> shaft0: WHy not just tell it to download but not install
[11:02] <nsfw> and then remote in and install/reboot when you want?
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[11:05] <rhelic> shaft0: even with TweakUI ?
[11:06] <rhelic> and you can force TweakUI XP to install in 2003/Vista
[11:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[11:09] <deww> heh. free ircd hosting
[11:09] <rhelic> sweet, sign me up
[11:11] <mleko> helo
[11:12] <deww> rhelic: telnet to 169.254.10.22, port 6667
[11:12] <deww> log in as root, password ircdh0st
[11:12] <rhelic> I'll pass
[11:12] <phisher1> 169.254 eh ;)
[11:12] <rhelic> oh wait, 169 has good stuff
[11:13] <rhelic> I get the best kiddie pron on there
[11:13] <rhelic> </bod joke>
[11:18] <Chaotic_D> how do I find product/buying guides? I suck at searching the internet, so
[11:19] <sparr_> i can pay a lawyer $2500 and probably not go to jail. or i can go to jail f
[11:19] <sparr_> welcome to "screw poor people" land
[11:20] <TheUni> Chaotic_D: i don't think many people have bought tape backup drives since 19
[11:20] <nsfw> TheUni: Are you crazy?
[11:20] <nsfw> TheUni: Dude tape drives are still quite possibly the most commonly used corp
[11:20] <TheUni> nsfw: just kidding. i know they're still big in big corps, but for home and
[11:20] <nsfw> not really
[11:21] <nsfw> small businesses still use them alot
[11:21] <nsfw> home is usually just an external hard drive
[11:21] <nsfw> but *shrug*
[11:21] <TheUni> none of mine do
[11:21] <Chaotic_D> well I bought a digital camera last year, and I heard tape backup was a g
[11:21] * TheUni swears to never sell a backup device that has to be rewound :)
[11:21] <TheUni> Chaotic_D: an external hard drive would make much more sense these days
[11:21] <nsfw> why would you discard a tried and true backup method, because it has to be rew
[11:22] <ial> Chaotic_D: burn DVDs?
[11:22] <nsfw> dvd's are bad for anything more than short term storage/transportation
[11:22] <nsfw> your average dvd will on it's very own become unreadable within 5-7 years :|
[11:22] <nsfw> cheap ones even less quite often
[11:23] <sparr_> ive got 12 year old CDRs still going strong... and 4 year old ones i cant r
[11:23] <sparr_> all a matter of quality
[11:23] <Chaotic_D> ial: no. too many DVDs.
[11:23] <nsfw> umm
[11:23] <nsfw> CD != DVD
[11:23] <ial> wow you must have alot of pics
[11:23] <nsfw> gotta back up that porn collection
[11:23] <Chaotic_D> I'm making porn with my camera?
[11:23] <nsfw> :P hahaha
[11:24] <nsfw> really?! That's awesome!
[11:24] <nsfw> :P
[11:24] <Chaotic_D> "nsfw" indeed.
[11:24] <nsfw> lol no I'mjust giving you a hard time. BUt yeah I dunno, most home users reso
[11:24] <Chaotic_D> I'm just... a little less trusting of HDs.
[11:24] <nsfw> however I would make sure you regularly check the drive to make sure it's stil
[11:24] <rhelic> Chaotic_D: bah, just burn DVDs, make more than 1 copy, even better if you bu
[11:24] <nsfw> mostly because hard drive failure rates are high enough to make me uncomfortab
[11:25] <rhelic> nsfw: quality media lasts 20yrs, I've got 10yr old CDrs
[11:25] <nsfw> We aren't talking CDR's
[11:25] <nsfw> we're talking DVDrs
[11:25] <rhelic> ok I haven't seen hard data on DVDrs
[11:25] <ial> and if he has too many pics for DVDrs, i think CDr is out of the question
[11:25] <rhelic> but heck, external HD + CD/DVD is a pretty decent solution
[11:25] <Chaotic_D> would tape backup be cheaper? I mean... I was thinking of buying a new HD
[11:26] <rhelic> I just bought a 4gb memory card for my camera for $18, CDr isn't big enough
[11:26] <ial> setup raid
[11:26] <nsfw> rhelic: Well do you know what the big diff between cdr/dvdr is?
[11:26] <nsfw> chains: Tapes are pretty expensive :( YOu'd be looking around $600 starting
[11:27] <nsfw> I meant Chaotic_D obviously :P
[11:27] <nsfw> the problem with dvdr's is that they are based on an organic dye medium for th
[11:28] <Chaotic_D> nsfw: wow. I had no idea that was the cost.
[11:29] <port> I'd like to start sending out a monthly flyer via email to my customers. What
[11:30] <Chaotic_D> ok... maybe if I go pro, after I buy a digital SLR, I'll consider tape ba
[11:30] <rhelic> port: your question lacks reference, what are you talking about?
[11:30] <rhelic> Chaotic_D: MB or GB?
[11:30] <Chaotic_D> MB. this is per picture.
[11:30] <rhelic> Chaotic_D: a 8mp camera pix are about 1.6mb each pic
[11:30] <port> what u mean? i own a candy distribution warehouse
[11:31] <rhelic> port: you didn't say that
[11:31] <Chaotic_D> I think mine's 7MP, but I'm also saving in the highest resolution with th
[11:32] <rhelic> Chaotic_D: yea, about 1.5mb
[11:32] <rhelic> each pic
[11:33] <Chaotic_D> I've got some here that are as big as 3MB, but most are at least 2.
[11:33] <rhelic> oh, my estimates are off
[11:34] <Chaotic_D> maybe that's with medium compression or whatever.
[11:35] <rhelic> I'm basing it off my 2mp camera, I haven't plugged in my 8mp yet, just got i
[11:35] <rhelic> waiting for mp 4GB memory before I play with it more
[11:36] <Chaotic_D> :D yeah. I got 2GB in mine. It's nice to just not worry about space, but
[11:36] <nsfw> lol try shooting prosumer dslr jpg+raw :P
[11:37] <Chaotic_D> eats up space quick, does it?
[11:38] <nsfw> about 15MB a picture
[11:38] <nsfw> 6.5 fps
[11:38] <nsfw> lol shooting sports it's nuts hahahaha
[11:39] <Chaotic_D> Hrm... well, I'm a nature guy myself, but I'm sure there are some similar
[11:40] <Chaotic_D> I just can not take pictures of flying creatures with my P&S. -_-;
[11:41] <Chaotic_D> for external HDs, do you just... buy an enclosure, and put any internal H
[11:42] <Chaotic_D> oh wait, maybe I can wikipedia it.
[11:42] <v10b22> what do you guys think, blackberry or iphone?
[11:42] <Mafaioz> bb
[11:42] <Mafaioz> Blackberry
[11:42] <nsfw> depends what you want to do with it
[11:42] <Mafaioz> i heard Iphone sucked
[11:42] <nsfw> business functional .... blackberry hands down
[11:42] <nsfw> coolness, iphone haha.
[11:44] <v10b22> well im gonna be traveling alot for work so i want the best of both worlds e
[11:44] <ns4384> anyone got any advice on a good multipurpose printer around the £100 mark?
[11:44] <Chaotic_D> well wikipedia says external HDs are just internal HDs in enclosures... s
[11:44] <bizman> Guys i have a form validation script i wrote but it is not executing i put
[11:45] <Chaotic_D> not sure, but I think "no scripts" in #help.
[11:46] <nsfw> that's not really the meaning of the topic
[11:46] <nsfw> bizman: Well if the form is submitting to the action (php)
[11:47] <n0ah> what language is it in?
[11:47] <nsfw> then it would be your php which isn't there
[11:47] <nsfw> if it's not then it's the javascript
[11:47] <Chaotic_D> only IRC script not allowed?
[11:47] <n0ah> Chaotic_D: probably just curious why you didn't join #php
[11:49] <bizman> nsfw: my other scripts work fine this way
[11:49] <bizman> nsfw: This way it is not at all
[11:53] <sparr_> how would one go about finding a loan shark?
[11:53] <maimutzyk> is here someone from poland???
[11:54] <n0ah> sparr_: www.bankofamerica.com
[11:54] <n0ah> maimutzyk: #poland
[11:54] <sparr_> n0ah: im serious. more so.
[11:55] <n0ah> sparr_: and you come to #help on efnet to find a loan shark in your area?
[11:55] <n0ah> if he's not in your area you'd have to fly to meet him or such
[11:55] <n0ah> in which case you already have money..
[11:55] <n0ah> you don't seem to serious
[11:56] <sparr_> no (this is a response to your only question)
[11:56] <n0ah> ok
[11:56] <rhelic> sparr_: holy trolltastic
[11:56] <n0ah> lol it's not even trolling it's so stupid that it can't even grab attention
[11:57] <sparr_> i come to #help on efnet to find out how one would go about finding a loan s
[11:57] <n0ah> if it's not in his area he wants a bunch of money from some underground kingpi
[11:57] <n0ah> and he doesn't even know the person because he's asking on efnet
[11:57] <n0ah> it's just idiocy
[11:57] <n0ah> heh
[11:57] <rhelic> sparr_: if you were banned for months, you'd think one wouldn't push it
[11:57] <sparr_> see how the words that i said matched up to the thing that i meant? i know
[11:58] <n0ah> hmm let's go ask on #help in efnet where to get loaned a million dollars from
[11:58] <n0ah> n1
[11:58] <Chaotic_D> sparr: bottom line, it's illegal, so we can't help. :)
[11:58] <Chaotic_D> although wikipedia mentions "Payday loan operations" ... "effectively a s
[11:58] <rhelic> if you can't get a loan from a bank, don't get one
[11:59] <Chaotic_D> maybe he's just a gambling addict.
[11:59] <sparr_> i need to post bail, but i dont have the amount of a bond today. i will hav
[11:59] <n0ah> you're online from jail?
[12:00] <sparr_> banks care about things like credit scores
[12:00] <Kealle> are there any free good screen capture programs out there?
[12:00] <sparr_> Kealle: gimp
[12:00] <rhelic> sparr_: so go find a bond place, silly
[12:00] <sparr_> rhelic: a bond place wants the money up front
[12:00] <rhelic> Kealle: get Purrint, and then Paint.NET to edit it
[12:00] <n0ah> sparr_: hence why there are a million other people in your situation, probably
[12:00] <rhelic> Kealle: purrint works with Windows's built in fuction, and then lets you dir
[12:01] <sparr_> n0ah: yes
[12:01] <Kealle> rhelic: Does it make video?
[12:01] <rhelic> no
[12:02] <rhelic> for video, you need a high end product like Camtasia (sp?)
[12:02] <Kealle> oh, sorry I didn't make that clear in the question
[12:02] <ial> fraps?
[12:02] <n0ah> rhelic: ... high end
[12:02] <n0ah> fraps yea
[12:02] <n0ah> fraps32
[12:02] <n0ah> cheap
[12:02] <n0ah> video capture
[12:02] <n0ah> sparr_: just enjoy sleeping all day.. i was in the psych a couple months ago a
[12:03] <n0ah> sparr_: that's all we can help you with
[12:03] <sparr_> i probably am going to jail for a few weeks. its the easiest solution.
[12:03] <rhelic> if the intention is like a tutorial, make sure the app uses a special deskto
[12:03] <sparr_> but that doesnt stop me from trying to avoid it
[12:03] <n0ah> it stops you from getting a bunch of money from a loanshark you probably won't
[12:03] <n0ah> and from wasting such time and resources on a couple weeks of jail
[12:03] <n0ah> ...
[12:04] <Kealle> rhelic: hmmm okey, it is for a tut yes
[12:04] <sparr_> i cant come up with $7500 today. i could come up with $2500 (plus the $7500
[12:04] <iNToIT> sparr_, contact the local bounty hunter. they usually know the local sharks
[12:04] <n0ah> so go get a cash loan on your car or house
[12:04] <n0ah> heh
[12:04] <sparr_> no house. car is crap.
[12:04] <n0ah> go steal one
[12:05] <sparr_> remember how i started this conversation with "screw poor people land"?
[12:05] <pixil> Don't give malitious advice in here, n0ah. :-)
[12:05] <iNToIT> sparr_, also, any decent local defense lawyer will know the local sharks as
[12:05] <n0ah> pixil: he's asking for malitious advice
[12:05] <rhelic> Kealle: Camtasia is the best for desktop capture
[12:05] <n0ah> he can leave or be ignored
[12:05] <n0ah> pixil: your choice
[12:05] <sparr_> a rich person in my position could resolve this problem with no time in jail
[12:05] <sparr_> that's what's fucked up about it
[12:05] <pixil> n0ah: 2 wrongs don't make a right. I was getting to "his" issue. Stick to w
[12:05] <iNToIT> sparr_, I've answere dyou. Now end this convo or take it elsewhere
[12:05] <rhelic> sparr_: stop whinning, get a bonds broker
[12:05] <Kealle> what has happened sparr?
[12:06] <sparr_> rhelic: pm?
[12:06] <n0ah> pixil: indeed it was just, cluttering up my eyes
[12:06] <n0ah> sorry
[12:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[12:08] <edistocay> sparr_: hope it works out for you
[12:09] <MrMeth> How do you change the file extentions, without setting Windows to always sho
[12:09] <sparr_> in cmd
[12:09] <sparr_> or another file manager
[12:09] <MrMeth> :/
[12:09] <Nightwork> I just show them on every file, heh.
[12:10] <sparr_> i just don't use windows
[12:10] <MrMeth> I used to, but I rename a lot of files, and always end up deleteing the ext
[12:11] <bizman> MrMeth: Did you see my post you usually help me out pertty well
[12:11] <MrMeth> haha thx I didn't see it
[12:12] <estranger> damn slow dell reps. wreckin my mojo
[12:12] <bizman> i have a form validation script i wrote but it is not executing i put it on
[12:14] <bizman> The extra stuff in the javascript i use for my other pages which work when i
[12:14] <_Pope> whats closest to .no? dk nl uk hu
[12:14] <MrMeth> .no is Norway i think
[12:14] <_Pope> ya
[12:14] <_Pope> of those 4 countries which one is closest
[12:15] <MrMeth> sw? :)
[12:15] <rhelic> bizinichi: is FireBug reporting any errors?
[12:15] <bizman> no it is not
[12:16] <bizman> it just goes to .php file and skips the validation onsubmit
[12:16] <rhelic> bizinichi: is the onsubmit on the <form> and there's no JS in yoru but
[12:16] <bizman> Yes, correct.
[12:17] <nsfw> he's doing an onSubmit action in his <form> declaration
[12:17] <bizman> My other pages work though it calls the .js file onsubmit before the php
[12:17] <rhelic> bizman: so it looks like <form method="post" action="blah.php" onsubmit
[12:17] <rhelic> you did remember the "return" part?
[12:17] <bizman> yes
[12:18] <bizman> http://www.pastebin.org/17351
[12:18] <rhelic> pastbin the code, preferable get
[12:18] <rhelic> ok
[12:18] <bizman> http://www.pastebin.org/17350 is the html
[12:18] <rhelic> tabs are your friend
[12:20] <bizman> lol
[12:21] <rhelic> you forgot to end your style
[12:21] <bizman> no i did, the paste bin code i just deleted somethings to make it easier i m
[12:24] <rhelic> bizman: I'm running it now, hang
[12:25] <bizman> okay
[12:25] <RDMutt> does anyone know where to find drivers for a sony dcr-trv250 digital camcord
[12:25] <rhelic> there is a JS error
[12:25] <bizman> syntax?
[12:26] <bizman> because remember that this script works on my other pages with the code in t
[12:26] <rhelic> it's either a missing ID on an input or syntax
[12:26] <rhelic> it happens when you submit
[12:27] <rhelic> there's no input called "details"
[12:27] <bizman> rhelic: remember that thats for my other pages calls the same file and it wo
[12:28] <bizman> so there is, but on another page
[12:28] <pixil> Did you people delete your myspace accounts today? :p
[12:28] <bizman> which is okay cause it usually skips if that input dosent exist
[12:28] <rhelic> pixil ???
[12:28] <rhelic> bizinichi: well it's bad JS, fix it
[12:28] <pixil> Jan 30th is international delete your myspace account
[12:28] <bizman> ?
[12:28] <pixil> day
[12:28] <rhelic> bizinichi: remove the check for details in this .JS, or add the input
[12:29] <rhelic> pixil: oh I thought it was delete YOUR MySpace, I've been hacking all day
[12:29] <MrMeth> what is Windows 7 Milestone 1?
[12:29] <pixil> heh
[12:29] <rhelic> MrMeth: the next version of Windows
[12:30] <MrMeth> for Home PC?
[12:30] <bizman> rhelic okay: i did that yesterday and made a new .js file just to check thos
[12:30] <rhelic> MrMeth: if that's a torrent DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT, it's trojan/junk/etc
[12:30] <MrMeth> no I wouldn't download it... jus seen that it has been leaked
[12:30] <MrMeth> thought maybe it was WM7
[12:30] <rhelic> bizman: well put an alert before every check, and the last one you see is wh
[12:31] <rhelic> MrMeth: Win7 does exist, but the leak is fake
[12:31] <MrMeth> ic
[12:31] <RDMutt> anyone know if I can find some sort of driver for a sony dcr-trv250 handycam
[12:31] <RDMutt> for vista, that is
[12:31] <bizman> rhelic: i put on yesterday on top of alll the code and that is the only one
[12:31] <bizman> everything under it did not
[12:31] <bizman> i put ('alert')test; on top of all
[12:32] <rhelic> bizman: well you have your answer, your syntax is bad
[12:32] <rhelic> I just tried that too
[12:32] <rhelic> I reference things by ID, not name
[12:32] <bizman> and it worked right?
[12:32] <rhelic> the 2nd alert never fired
[12:32] <rhelic> I'm talking outside of your IF checks
[12:32] <rhelic> above them
[12:33] <bizman> yes me too
[12:33] <bizman> but on my other pages it works and checks the fields...no idea why this one
[12:34] <rhelic> no idea, bug #javascript
[12:34] <bizman> ok
[12:35] <MrMeth> rhelic: you know for certain it hasn't leaked?
[12:35] <rhelic> yes
[12:35] <MrMeth> :)
[12:37] <nolimipr0> how can i convert a wma or mp3 or w/e to a .mid for a ringtone
[12:38] <rhelic> it's pretty much impossible to convert those to a MIDI
[12:38] <nolimipr0> well heres the thing
[12:38] <rhelic> MIDI isn't an audio format, per se
[12:38] <nolimipr0> midi thats like the old ringtones right
[12:38] <nolimipr0> that can only play 1 note at a time
[12:38] <Sculptor> iti is possible, although the result is usually very poor
[12:38] <rhelic> ancient history... if your phone can't do MP3, time to get a new one
[12:39] <rhelic> MIDI can be more than 1 note at a time
[12:39] <nolimipr0> i just pulled up my lg vx9800 in bitpim
[12:39] <nolimipr0> and the ringtone extensions are .mid
[12:39] <rhelic> MIDI is known as polyphonic in the ringtone world
[12:39] <nolimipr0> trying to save myself some money on ringtones lol
[12:39] <nolimipr0> verizon charges 2.50 each so screw that
[12:39] <rhelic> there are a billion MIDIs out there, just use them
[12:39] <nolimipr0> i already got a bunch of songs chopped up to what i want
[12:39] <nolimipr0> just need to know how to get that extension on there
[12:40] <rhelic> well you can't convert digitil audio to MIDI
[12:40] <MrMeth> play it on yer speakers and record thru yer mic
[12:40] <rhelic> and the hack converters that are out there, you won't like how it sounds
[12:41] <rhelic> MrMeth: you're not listening :P
[12:41] <rhelic> nolimipr0: you'll be sorry after you hear the results http://www.audioutili
[12:42] * TICALyen is now known as MrMeth\
[12:42] <nolimipr0> hmm i read a tut for the vx9800 ringtones somewhere and a guy just said t
[12:42] <rhelic> this is probably the "best possible scenario", they used a song that was sim
[12:42] <rhelic> nolimipr0: no, he's lying
[12:43] <nolimipr0> unless the phone will use mp3..
[12:44] <pixil> rhelic: I've actually heard that works on some phones...
[12:45] <pixil> I would, otherwise, think it's ridiculous...
[12:45] <rhelic> hmm
[12:45] <pixil> Yeah, it doesn't make sense. I know
[12:46] <n0ah> it is ridiculous... the code that is playing the mp3s would simply have to aut
[12:46] <n0ah> and the only reason it would seem to do this is because they don't want people
[12:46] <nolimipr0> i think it has to do with verizons restrictions
[12:46] <n0ah> such that they bought the audio playing code... but didn't have license to all
[12:46] <n0ah> possible, unlikely on most any phone
[12:46] <n0ah> proprietary situation
[12:47] <nolimipr0> yeah i just saw it on howardforums and a couple others suggesting to just
[12:47] <n0ah> midi playing code and mp3 playing code is COMPLETELY different... you can't pl
[12:47] <pixil> howardforums, this dude swears by that place...
[12:47] <n0ah> the above situation is the only possible situation... the same midi player has
[12:48] <pixil> n0ah: Most media players will play both :p
[12:48] <nolimipr0> im not swearing by it im just saying i saw it there and a few other place
[12:48] <nolimipr0> what sites do you suggest?
[12:48] <n0ah> pixil: then it has mp3 support and midi support
[12:48] <n0ah> it is not midi code playing mp3
[12:48] <n0ah> that is just nonsense
[12:48] <nolimipr0> pixil your good with bitpim right?
[12:48] <n0ah> it's just extension misnaming
[12:48] <MrMeth> I jus watched Pirates Of sillicon Valley... damn I love taht movie
[12:48] <n0ah> it's not standard
[12:48] <n0ah> it's just a (maybe possible) "hack" more or less.. probably out of license agr
[12:48] <Chrisglie> The easiest way to burn a CD to .wav?
[12:48] <pixil> nolimipr0: I've used it once on windows and unsuccessfully, so far, in liux.
[12:48] <pixil> linux*
[12:48] <n0ah> else why would they lack features in their phone on purpose?
[12:48] <nolimipr0> i saw you said you were using it last night
[12:48] <n0ah> that would make no sense at all
[12:48] <pixil> Realise, though, that what I'm trying to do is not conventional.
[12:48] <nolimipr0> hmm i got a problem with loading my phone..
[12:48] <Chrisglie> ...Or to .flac
[12:49] <nolimipr0> its a sph-m300 samsung by sprint
[12:49] <nolimipr0> and it shows the com port for modem or dun
[12:49] <nolimipr0> but it wont show the Diag port which is the one needed to do wallpapers/r
[12:49] <pixil> It's not ridiculous to think that an mp3 phone would have the ability to read
[12:49] <nolimipr0> i dont know if i need samsung drivers or what
[12:49] <n0ah> i never said it was
[12:50] <rhelic> pixil: but it is ridiculous that it won't play .mp3
[12:50] <n0ah> it's perfectly normal actually
[12:50] <n0ah> i'm explaining why a file would play with .midi extension and .mp3
[12:50] <n0ah> that is not normal
[12:50] <n0ah> a phone would not take .mp3 support out
[12:50] <pixil> rhelic: It will. But not (by design) for ring tones.
[12:50] <n0ah> unless they didn't want you using mp3s
[12:50] <n0ah> and the only reason for that
[12:50] <n0ah> is out of lack of license
[12:50] <n0ah> to use the mp3 portion of the code
[12:50] <MrMeth> speaking of Phones.... Does anyone know how to make a wall paper be good qua
[12:50] <MrMeth> WM6
[12:51] <pixil> Quit arguing. There have been several claims that changing an mp3 file to .m
[12:51] <nolimipr0> any clue on where i could get samsung drivers pixil?
[12:51] <n0ah> i never argued that at all
[12:51] <pixil> :-)
[12:51] <nolimipr0> cant find anything on google
[12:51] <n0ah> please quit lying about what i'm saying
[12:51] <n0ah> i'm explaining why it works
[12:51] <n0ah> and why it would happen at all
[12:51] <pixil> Nobody cares or asked. You're confusing an actual question with a bunch of c
[12:51] <rhelic> "I'm not arguing, you liar!"
[12:51] <n0ah> i never said i wasn't arguing either
[12:52] <n0ah> and i care, am i not somebody?
[12:52] <n0ah> i doubt i'm the only one that found that interesting
[12:52] <n0ah> i could be wrong
[12:52] <pixil> Still, you continue.
[12:52] <n0ah> i havn't been asked to stop
[12:52] <akirch> PIXIL IS RIGHT
[12:52] * estranger hugs his smart phone. it makes me smart.
[12:52] <akirch> n0ah, stop now
[12:52] <rhelic> [15:51:04] <@pixil> Quit arguing.
[12:52] <pixil> n0ah: I said quit arguing. Quit arguing.
[12:52] <akirch> pissing off pixil makes me mad
[12:52] <n0ah> i never argued
[12:52] <n0ah> rhelic:
[12:52] <akirch> YOU ARE ARGUING NOW
[12:52] -Zoomy:#Help- OptickNet - http://www.OptickNet.Com -> Search And You Will Find All What
[12:52] <Zoomy> OptickNet - http://www.OptickNet.Com -> Search And You Will Find All What
[12:52] <akirch> arguing from the latin for gtfo!
[12:52] <akirch> christ
[12:53] <rhelic> he sent his attack bots!
[12:53] <pixil> I saw that.
[12:53] <MornStar> haha
[12:53] <edistocay> you can kick me because i know more than any op in here about their own c
[12:53] <edistocay> heh
[12:53] <estranger> haha what
[12:53] <rhelic> n0ah has a serious god complex
[12:53] <akirch> more of the same twit
[12:53] <rhelic> that was him
[12:54] <pixil> *nod*
[12:54] <rhelic> pixil: he was pulling the same stuff yesterday
[12:54] <pixil> I think a lot of issues we've been having have been related to him too.
[12:54] <MornStar> estranger, haha what'ing me?
[12:54] <estranger> i thought the day of the packet kiddie threats ended with the last centur
[12:54] <estranger> MornStar: no, the "i can drop you any second" line gave me a chuckle
[12:55] <pixil> nolimipr0: Sorry. Are you using windows or linux?
[12:55] <MornStar> oh, i was laughing at the attack bots line :D
[12:55] <rhelic> nobody that runs their own botnet can drop anyone
[12:55] <estranger> ./smurf.c rhelic !!!
[12:55] <rhelic> dude I love the smurfs
[12:56] <estranger> yeah.. BroadcastPing Smurf .. brother of Poppa Smurf
[12:56] <akirch> estranger, he's talk
[12:56] <akirch> I'm trashtalking him now
[12:57] <akirch> estranger, now it's dns amplification
[12:57] <akirch> works just like smurt
[12:57] <akirch> smurf
[12:57] <akirch> hey if you hit the broadcast with DNS requests... the responses are 30-60 ti
[12:57] <akirch> amplification+broadcast = ouch
[12:57] <estranger> ...
[12:58] <estranger> hit the broadcast with dns requests? i dont see how pointing your nslooku
[12:58] <Raindm> What does "Smtp server" means?
[12:58] <nolimipr0> im trying the from wma and mp3 to .mid extension change right now
[12:58] <nolimipr0> for the vx9800
[12:59] <estranger> Raindm: simple mail transport proto.. its how email is sent
[12:59] <estranger> outbound email server
[13:00] <nolimipr0> i just dont get why i cant get diag port to come up on my m300
[13:01] <Raindm> i see, estranger, i what way does SMTP server sends e-mail?
[13:02] <Raindm> in what way
[13:02] <nolimipr0> its writing the file... then send and we shall see
[13:02] <estranger> SMTP is the protocol that email servers talk ..
[13:03] <pixil> nolimipr0: There's a challenge with getting BitPim to communicate with some o
[13:04] <pixil> I know one of the authors of the software has written a module that works wit
[13:04] <pixil> com_samsungsphm300pim
[13:04] <pixil> Go look it up
[13:04] <estranger> howardforums.com is often a good resource for mobile stuff
[13:04] <pixil> Yeah, he's using that too.
[13:04] <pixil> Also, email djpham@bitpim.org
[13:05] <estranger> cool :) i just hopped in the middle of this convo
[13:05] <pixil> His name is Joe and he eats, sleeps, and drinks this stuff.
[13:05] <estranger> i want the blackjack 2.
[13:05] <pixil> It's okay. It started about an hour ago, before we had another 14-year-old-f
[13:05] <estranger> it happens, lol
[13:06] <akirch> omg the kiddies!
[13:06] <akirch> err wait
[13:06] <akirch> I'm still ehre
[13:06] <akirch> here
[13:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[13:07] <akirch> plz I can has big brass balls then? kthx
[13:08] * GMouth slaps akirch around a bit with a large trout
[13:08] <koolaid> is there ne 1 that speaks french here that might be able to help me
[13:09] <deww> ne2
[13:09] <w0t> you always have translate.google.com or freetranslation.com
[13:10] <koolaid> ok
[13:10] <w0t> are you in a hurry?
[13:10] <akirch> oui, putetre je deteste francais
[13:10] <akirch> and I don't have all the cute ^'`s either
[13:11] <koolaid> well i just read title
[13:11] <w0t> please learn touch typing instead of abbreviations. :)
[13:11] <koolaid> was needing help with my daughters french homework....lol
[13:11] <akirch> vraiment?
[13:11] <Raindm> ok thanks estranger
[13:11] <koolaid> i seen no help with homework
[13:11] <akirch> koolaid, see the no homework? :)
[13:12] <akirch> aah, cool then :)
[13:12] <estranger> i took french for 3 years! :D
[13:12] <koolaid> after i asked sorry
[13:12] <akirch> d'accord
[13:12] <akirch> estranger, then you know how pitifully bad at it I am
[13:12] <estranger> im worse im sure
[13:13] <koolaid> my daughter is in grade 5 and needed help arranging frech words to make a s
[13:14] <koolaid> any 1 no a site that might be able to help
[13:14] <rhelic> koolaid: iirc the reason for that is because ppl will literally type up thei
[13:14] <estranger> google language tools maybe?
[13:14] <rhelic> but asking about something is perfectly fine
[13:15] <koolaid> ok
[13:16] <koolaid> so does that mean someone help me arrange the words to make a sentence
[13:16] <rhelic> yea, translate the words via google, and do it yourself :P
[13:16] <akirch> sigh
[13:16] <rhelic> in fact, teach your daughter at least that
[13:16] <akirch> koolaid, what's the sentence
[13:16] <rhelic> why are you doing it for her?
[13:16] <akirch> rhelic, chill a sec
[13:17] <koolaid> i looked french english dictionary and no results of some of the words
[13:17] <sparr_> i get credit card offers in the mail. horrible interest rates, huge fees.
[13:17] <estranger> you have the words she can use?
[13:17] <koolaid> n'aime je pas bleuets les
[13:18] <akirch> je n'aime pas les bluets
[13:18] <rhelic> sparr_: why aren't you going to a stock broker?
[13:18] <akirch> I don't like whatever these bluets are
[13:18] <sparr_> rhelic: non sequitur?
[13:18] <koolaid> thank you
[13:18] <akirch> let me break that one down for you
[13:18] <akirch> je = I
[13:18] <estranger> je is I .. ne pas is the negative of whatever is between it, and les bleu
[13:19] <koolaid> je vois des pommes dans l'arbre
[13:19] <akirch> aime is the singular first person conjugation of aimer a common er verbe
[13:19] <akirch> koolaid, that one already looks correct I want the apples from the tree
[13:19] <estranger> in the tree?
[13:19] <akirch> estranger, literally yes
[13:19] <koolaid> ty i tried that one myself
[13:19] <estranger> ok, yer french is better than mine Isee =)
[13:20] <akirch> your literal translation is correct however from would be a more correct tra
[13:20] <akirch> those sorts of words are never literal
[13:20] <koolaid> j'ai fraise pour des ma collation
[13:20] <akirch> you don't say I want the apples in the tree in english
[13:21] <akirch> koolaid, one sec there's a couple words I don't recognize
[13:21] <koolaid> ok no problem
[13:21] <akirch> check the spelling on the last word?
[13:22] <koolaid> is same way in her book
[13:22] <koolaid> collation
[13:22] <akirch> snack
[13:22] <akirch> it's colloquial
[13:22] <koolaid> maybe something like collecting strawberries
[13:23] <akirch> j'ai des fraise pour ma collation
[13:23] <akirch> I have strawberries for my snack
[13:24] <koolaid> y a il des kiwis gros le dans sac
[13:24] <akirch> koolaid, spend a few hours reading her book on common ir and er verbs, as we
[13:24] <akirch> it'll help
[13:24] <koolaid> thank you for your help
[13:25] <akirch> il a ya des kiwis gros dans la sac
[13:25] <akirch> google translation disagrees with me here but
[13:25] <akirch> he has kiwis (that are) big in the sack
[13:25] * akirch appeals to estranger for a review on the play and throws the red challenge flag
[13:26] <pixil> I've found babelfish to be more accurate that google's translation
[13:26] <rhelic> yea, Google's is surprisingly un-innovative
[13:26] <rhelic> you'd think they would take it more serious
[13:26] <akirch> koolaid, you are going to have to learn the common verbs though if you're go
[13:26] <akirch> rhelic, The klingon translater works great!
[13:26] <akirch> now that's innovative!
[13:26] <pixil> I actually find their directions system to be wrong a lot of times too (compa
[13:26] <rhelic> heh, probably better than the real ones
[13:27] <akirch> rhelic, that would surprise me not a bit
[13:27] <koolaid> thanks i no very little french but i like to help her as much as i can
[13:27] <rhelic> I bought a TomTom a bit ago, haven't used online directions since
[13:27] <koolaid> but math is my subject
[13:27] <pixil> I imagine I'll get a GPS thingy sometime
[13:27] <akirch> koolaid, find a local poor college french major
[13:27] <akirch> it's the only thing their liberal arts degree is good for
[13:29] <akirch> koolaid, I'm getting ready to leave, any more?
[13:29] <koolaid> mere la david aime les de bananes
[13:30] <akirch> mere or mare?
[13:30] <pixil> Okay, enough of the french class practicing...
[13:30] <pixil> get a room or something :PO
[13:30] <koolaid> mere is mother right
[13:30] * akirch kills pixil
[13:30] <akirch> yes mare would have a different meaning here
[13:30] <akirch> sea
[13:32] <koolaid> veux manger collation fraises je des ma pour
[13:32] <akirch> la mere de david aimes les bananes David's mother likes bananas
[13:32] <akirch> je voux manger des fraises pour collation
[13:33] <akirch> I would like (literally wish) to eat strawberries for snack
[13:33] <koolaid> its ok we will try the last few on our own but thank you very much from my
[13:33] <akirch> no problem
[13:33] <akirch> learn your regular verbs before trying to tackle sentence structure :)
[13:34] <koolaid> u were a big help and we will learn togther
[13:40] <gop> hey
[13:40] <gop> one question, any have a clue how to remove storage protect malware
[13:40] <gop> I went to google
[13:40] <gop> and followed those steps, but still we are ineffected
[13:41] <gop> efected, it creating .tmp files
[13:41] <gop> to mydocument none stop
[13:41] <gop> storageprotect.com
[13:42] <rhelic> gop: install NOD32 & Spybot... boot into safe mode, scan and remove everythi
[13:43] <GMouth> use adaware as well
[13:44] <gop> is there some linux live cd to remove it
[13:44] <gop> it delted our restore backup from three days ago
[13:45] * KosheeN is now known as Kosh|Away
[13:49] <rhelic> Rick Cotton, NBC Universal's general counsel, made recently. He said, "Socie
[13:49] <rhelic> simply amazing
[13:50] <sparr_> my name has a numeric suffix. is it bad to mix sans and serif fonts for it?
[13:56] <bizinichi> rhelic highlighted me like 5 tiems
[13:57] <rhelic> I never use more than 3 letters for my nick complete, the guy was bizman
[13:57] <zans> what happens if i dont connect the 4 pin cpu power cable to the motherboard wh
[13:58] <rhelic> umm I don't know, maybe you don't get power
[13:59] <rhelic> was that a trick question?
[13:59] <zans> no
[13:59] <zans> my friend is having boot problems
[14:00] <zans> it would stay on for three seconds and then off
[14:00] <rhelic> cpu problems?
[14:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[14:09] <sparr_> watermark on a resume. good, bad, other?
[14:10] <ASk> bad
[14:22] <sparr_> rhelic: any new/different critiques would be appreciated. http://www.trifoc
[14:22] <sparr_> i stole your 'last updated' idea
[14:22] <krisp> is trifocus irc still around
[14:22] <sparr_> dont think so
[14:22] <krisp> hard not to miss #showeq
[14:23] <sparr_> if only we knew someone who used to run a server linked to it that we could
[14:23] <krisp> if only
[14:23] <krisp> heh
[14:23] <krisp> i think its been down for a couple years now
[14:23] <sparr_> yeah. they have slowly been turning off services on the domain, making it p
[14:24] <sparr_> still my go-to location for hosting random small files
[14:24] <sparr_> since im behind a firewall and cant host them myself right now
[14:24] <krisp> ya
[14:26] <sparr_> your input is welcome on the resume as well
[14:26] <sparr_> im trying to keep it pretty clean looking
[14:27] <acDC> evening
[14:27] <sparr_> without looking too much like a word template, which it started as many hund
[14:27] <sparr_> so long ago that i was still using word :)
[14:27] <krisp> i havnt updated my resume in a long time
[14:28] <acDC> whers Osc
[14:28] <sparr_> i havent hunted for a job since 06
[14:28] <krisp> me either
[14:28] <jackal^> acDC, why?
[14:28] <acDC> jw
[14:28] <sparr_> but im about to start
[14:28] <sparr_> so i need to get it back in shape
[14:28] <sparr_> good news though... ive finally got a longer-than-one-year position at the
[14:29] <estranger> how much worse is DVI compared to HDMI?
[14:29] <sparr_> almost none at all
[14:29] <estranger> on say, a 720p tv
[14:29] <sparr_> hdmi adds audio and DRM
[14:29] <sparr_> the video quality is identical
[14:30] <estranger> oh snap
[14:33] <hirogen2> A lot of the contracts appearing in the realtime embedded area at the mome
[14:38] <krisp> good question
[14:38] <Treval> What's the diffirence betweer 2,5" & 3,5" hdd's?
[14:38] <krisp> 1 inch
[14:38] <krisp> (zing)
[14:38] <krisp> 2.5" drives are usually for laptops
[14:39] <krisp> and come in smaller capacities than their 3.5" brothers, which are for deskto
[14:39] <Treval> :)
[14:42] <rhelic> many of the 2.5 are also slowe
[14:42] <krisp> its true
[14:43] <krisp> but many aren't
[14:43] <rhelic> well, everything in life "depends"
[14:43] <krisp> you said it
[14:43] <belter> 4200rpm, 5400rpm, and 7200rpm modles avalible
[14:47] <rhelic> hirogen2: well writing some .NET embedded apps and building a portfolio woul
[14:48] <et_> ya think so rhelic
[14:48] <et_> its a tuff world out there
[14:49] <et_> even a BA and a few years in a field dont land you a good job
[14:49] <rhelic> if you need exp to get exp... then make your own
[14:50] <et_> i was thinking about using .net to make gui for database
[14:51] <et_> and then sell it to small business and customize it for their needs
[14:51] <et_> but just an idea
[14:53] <RcRaCk> hey
[14:53] <RcRaCk> i need help !!!
[14:53] <RcRaCk> task manager has been disabled by your administrator
[14:54] <RcRaCk> wtf is this crap
[14:54] <RcRaCk> i am adminstrator
[14:55] <belter> you got a bug
[14:55] <RcRaCk> yup
[14:55] <RcRaCk> i know
[14:55] <belter> the cleaner by moosoft
[14:55] <RcRaCk> because my virus scanner just went crazy
[14:55] <RcRaCk> then i crashed
[14:55] <RcRaCk> and now its giving me that message
[14:55] <RcRaCk> and i need to get into task manager
[14:56] <RcRaCk> ohh and ad-aware and my other programs wont load also now
[14:56] <Mafaioz> start in safety modus
[14:56] <Mafaioz> F8
[14:56] <RcRaCk> then what ?
[14:56] <rhelic> RcRaCk: you're infected, boot into safe mode, do a full scan
[14:57] <RcRaCk> fuck
[14:57] <et_> you can try system restore
[14:57] <RcRaCk> now my desktop and all these messages are popping up
[14:57] <RcRaCk> errrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[14:57] <belter> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
[14:57] <et_> as well
[14:57] <RcRaCk> i dont have my windows cd errrrrrrrrrr
[14:57] <belter> clean boot xp
[14:57] <Mafaioz> RcRaCk, Then you can remove shit
[14:57] <Mafaioz> thehe
[14:57] <et_> you dont need cd for sys restore
[14:57] <belter> but you still have to boot to safe mode and it may be easier to clean the in
[14:57] <rhelic> RcRaCk: you don't need the windoze cd
[14:57] <RcRaCk> i thought you do
[14:57] <belter> no
[14:58] <RcRaCk> ohh
[14:58] <RcRaCk> brb then
[15:07] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:09] * et_ is now known as et__
[15:16] <BadName> hi all, i would like to know it there is a function on this network to hide
[15:16] <Osc> nope
[15:16] <BadName> +if
[15:16] <BadName> ok
[15:16] <BadName> ty
[15:16] <MornStar> bnc/ipv6
[15:16] <BadName> bye
[15:17] <MornStar> oh, function. :)
[15:17] <smrf> btw what is teh trick to get psybnc to connect to a ssl server ;p cant seem to
[15:18] <Psykus> trying to get japanese input support working correctly under windows xp, any
[15:20] <RcRaCk> hey
[15:20] <RcRaCk> err
[15:20] <RcRaCk> i did virus scan and other scans and it did find a few things but im still g
[15:23] <Treval> Help.. I just bought BattleField 2: complete (all expansions) and when I lau
[15:23] <RcRaCk> ohh battle field 2
[15:23] <RcRaCk> i got that game
[15:23] <Treval> :(
[15:24] <Treval> Nice.
[15:24] <RcRaCk> omg my virus scanner and other programs are going crazy right now
[15:24] <Treval> :o
[15:24] <RcRaCk> for some wierd reason it keeps finding more and more
[15:24] <RcRaCk> even though this is my third scan now
[15:24] <Treval> Replicationnn :o
[15:25] <Treval> Any ideas for my problem? I need to go sleep like in a few minutes..
[15:25] <RcRaCk> different virus's it seems
[15:25] <RcRaCk> hmm thats wierd it wont let you pick the drive you want to install to
[15:26] <RcRaCk> did you try regular install
[15:26] <RcRaCk> maybe just custom install part is messed up
[15:27] <Treval> Regular install?..
[15:27] <Treval> I tried it all
[15:27] <Treval> :)
[15:27] <RcRaCk> ya like dont try custom
[15:27] <Treval> :/ but it still won't le tmeeee
[15:27] <Treval> It says 'complete'
[15:27] <RcRaCk> hmm
[15:28] <RcRaCk> thats wierd it wont let you pick where to install
[15:28] <RcRaCk> i havnt installed the game in like 1 year so i cant really remember
[15:28] <RcRaCk> i have the game installed but i havnt installed it in over 1 year
[15:30] <Treval> Ok nvm I got it :) solved
[15:30] <RcRaCk> what was it ??
[15:30] <Treval> It let me choose in a later stadium of teh setup
[15:30] <Treval> It was like
[15:30] <Treval> setup > next > setup > next
[15:30] <Treval> Strange but k
[15:30] <Treval> setup > installshield > next
[15:30] <Treval> rofl
[15:30] <Treval> Anyway cya :)
[15:31] <RcRaCk> ok how do i do system restore without the cd ?
[15:31] <RcRaCk> this crap is still doing hte message
[15:33] <MornStar> usually F8 when booting up
[15:33] <MornStar> varies pc to pc, though
[15:33] <RcRaCk> why does it varies ?
[15:33] <MornStar> different manufacturers
[15:34] <RcRaCk> of windows ?
[15:34] <MornStar> :/ just press f8 when booting
[15:34] <MornStar> (continually press it)
[15:35] <JeeebuZzZ> need help regaining a channel without identd! :(
[15:35] <component> to boot into windows setup cd, do you need to have a working hard drive i
[15:35] <RcRaCk> ya i dont have my windows cd though
[15:35] <JeeebuZzZ> yes component
[15:35] <component> oh, darn
[15:36] <component> can it be a USB hdd?
[15:36] <component> i just inherited a faulty laptop (OS not found errors) and don't have any
[15:36] <JeeebuZzZ> don't think so, as it has to install the drivers somewhere
[15:36] <component> ah
[15:36] <component> wanted to make sure it works before buying a new hdd
[15:37] <MornStar> could probably bodge it so your external is ntfs, then it might
[15:37] <RcRaCk> ok you guys are 100% sure you can do windows restore without the cd ?
[15:37] <MornStar> RcRaCk, uh
[15:37] <john-l> lol
[15:37] <MornStar> reboot.. then press f8
[15:37] <MornStar> without a cd
[15:38] <JeeebuZzZ> what's the efnet help channel?
[15:38] <RcRaCk> hmm
[15:38] <MornStar> like, about the efnet server?
[15:38] <component> any diagnostics you can run without a working hdd? are there any cd's yo
[15:38] <JeeebuZzZ> well, about fixing channel takeovers and stuff
[15:39] <RcRaCk> well only thing i see is "directory services restore mode(windows domain con
[15:39] <Osc> #chanfix
[15:39] <JeeebuZzZ> ty
[15:39] <MornStar> #chanfix , JeeebuZzZ
[15:39] <MornStar> slow. :p
[15:39] <RcRaCk> where is normal restore ?
[15:39] <JeeebuZzZ> heh
[15:40] <RcRaCk> i dont have a windows domain controller
[15:42] <RcRaCk> ya it doesnt work
[15:42] <AdolfH> Hello,im looking for a solution the jewificati