Session Start: Fri Jan 25 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:07] * omnisient is now known as poseidun
[00:09] * omnisient is now known as poseidun
[00:17] <userme> windows defender comes with all vista versions right.. or it is not free
[00:21] <ASk> it is free.
[00:22] <ASk> you can download it from microsoft downloads
[00:27] <userme> ok thanks Ask, but does it come with vista or it has to be downloaded
[00:54] * M1S4N is now known as MiSaN
[01:06] <oddalot> is there a way to cook a potato without aluminum foil?
[01:07] <oddalot> anyone
[01:07] <oddalot> beuller?
[01:08] <CyCle_NC> yes
[01:08] <CyCle_NC> cut it up and make french frys
[01:09] <CyCle_NC> or just bake it on a xookie pan
[01:09] <CyCle_NC> *cookie
[01:10] <CyCle_NC> got an alinum pie pan?
[01:12] <oddalot> no
[01:12] <oddalot> hmm
[01:13] <oddalot> maybe i can microwave it
[01:13] <oddalot> thanks
[01:29] <Neo_2000> !help
[01:30] <blc> no triggers in here mate
[01:31] <Neo_2000> oki.
[01:41] <MROneBloo> does anyone know why my new processor fan spins and stops then spins agai
[01:41] <MROneBloo> and etc
[01:41] <MROneBloo> ?
[01:45] <face0> because you enabled the stuff in your BIOS that adjusts your fan speed based
[02:04] <Famic_> anyone could tell me how to transform a .xls file to .csv ?
[02:04] <Famic_> I didn't find it in the "save as" box
[02:09] <APEpoop> my firefox has gone really slow leately - not that slow, but it shouldnt be
[02:10] <blc> installed any addons lately?
[02:10] <APEpoop> not that i remember
[02:10] <APEpoop> but i got this online popup messages that says my computer is infected
[02:10] <blc> tried emptying cache folders and such?
[02:10] <blc> that's just spam
[02:11] <APEpoop> i tried to press no and shit, not to install anything
[02:11] <blc> to be on the safe side you _could_ perform a anti-spyware scan
[02:11] <APEpoop> but still i feel its slow
[02:11] <APEpoop> what program would be the best to use?
[02:11] <APEpoop> for free
[02:11] <blc> easiest, housecall.antivirus.com
[02:11] <blc> best... that's a matter of personal opinion
[02:12] <APEpoop> thanks
[02:12] <blc> np
[02:12] <APEpoop> my comp used about 11 seconds to look up the page.
[02:12] <APEpoop> normally a page shows after two or three
[02:12] <blc> firefox has been stuipdly slow for me too since they upgraded to 2.0
[02:12] <blc> opera however works fine
[02:13] <blc> hmm.. have you installed fasterfox?
[02:13] <APEpoop> nope
[02:14] <blc> tweaked the pipelining section?
[02:14] <APEpoop> oh so it can be the update then
[02:14] <APEpoop> ill try IE, thats what i got isntalled
[02:14] <blc> not sure what it is..
[02:14] <blc> i just realized that a lot of servers block firefox because it opens like 15 co
[02:15] <APEpoop> damn, IE is even slower
[02:15] <blc> well.. IE is slow by nature.. :P
[02:15] <ASk> blc: not on default settings, it doesn't
[02:16] <blc> ASk: hence why i asked about fasterfox/tweaking
[02:16] <ASk> defaults = 8 max connections at a time, 2 of them persistent
[02:16] <ASk> total of 32 max connections at a time to all servers
[02:16] <blc> people have been tweaking that setting since 1.0
[02:16] <ASk> er, 24
[02:45] <Famic_> anyone owuld know of a free tool to send emailings to a .xls list of contact
[02:59] <iNToIT> yes, but I don't support mass mailing for any purpose
[03:00] <iNToIT> :(
[03:01] <Famic_> iNToIT: it's not massive, and it's for opt-in clients
[03:05] <iNToIT> well
[03:05] <iNToIT> technically, you can do it with gmail and google docs
[03:05] <iNToIT> but I trust the google people to shut you down if you end up being a spammer
[03:07] <Famic_> how would they know if my mailing is legit or not ?
[03:39] <muerto> how do i get a timestamp to show?
[03:45] <MornStar> mirc?
[03:47] <MornStar> :/ well i presume so. Tools > Options > IRC > Messages.. then an
[03:50] <BaRDaHL> there is chanserv here?
[03:50] <BaRDaHL> or X?
[03:50] <BaRDaHL> or what kind of services used here?
[03:50] <MornStar> no
[03:50] <MornStar> chanfix
[03:50] <BaRDaHL> O_O
[03:50] <MornStar> :)
[03:50] <MornStar> /join #chanfix and read topic, then part so they don't get angry :P
[03:51] <blc> BaRDaHL: there are no registration services of any kind on efnet
[03:51] <BaRDaHL> wow
[03:52] <BaRDaHL> efnet admins should make the purpuose to install any services... srvx or uw
[03:52] <BaRDaHL> XD
[03:52] <BaRDaHL> ahh this isnt ircu
[03:52] <MornStar> it's lasted along time without them, i'm sure it will be fine :P
[03:52] <BaRDaHL> i thought it was
[03:52] <BaRDaHL> :S
[03:53] <blc> we don't want services
[03:53] <BaRDaHL> why?
[03:53] <BaRDaHL> whats the reason? if its posible to know it
[03:55] <blc> several reasons..
[03:55] <BaRDaHL> >.<
[03:55] <BaRDaHL> well
[03:55] <blc> for one, we've existed for many years without, so we don't see the need
[03:55] <BaRDaHL> good reason
[03:56] <BaRDaHL> XD
[03:56] <blc> secondly introducing services now will not go well with existing userbase
[03:56] <BaRDaHL> no
[03:56] <BaRDaHL> ?
[03:56] <BaRDaHL> :S
[03:56] <BaRDaHL> well
[04:03] <muerto> thannks
[04:12] <Saww> what numbers/strings are represented by 6 digits with 2 \, in the format: "\##
[04:15] <blc> in relation to what?
[04:16] <Saww> to digits? :S
[04:16] <Saww> not sure what you're asking ..
[04:17] <blc> i'd have to say the same to you
[04:17] <blc> such formats can be used in a multitude of relations
[04:17] <Saww> it's used in MSNP, but i doubt it gives you anything
[04:18] <blc> is that the messengerprotocol?
[04:18] <Saww> yup
[04:18] <blc> then it's the colorcode
[04:18] <Saww> no it's not
[04:18] <blc> and font format
[04:18] <Saww> it's the message it self
[04:18] <Saww> i sent a message (not in english)
[04:18] <Saww> and it sent those stuff :S
[04:19] <Saww> i remember once checking it and i did found the answer, but i don't remember h
[04:19] <blc> do you use special letters in your language?
[04:19] <blc> in the code i've seen it has been the format of ASCII code, mostly used for tag
[04:19] <blc> colors
[04:20] <Saww> no, but it uses ascii codes 225-250
[04:20] <Saww> (it-the chars in my language)
[04:21] <blc> beats me then
[04:21] <Saww> :S
[04:22] <antsee> why is it that I can't see anyone chatting here?
[04:23] <MornStar> cus no one is chatting?
[04:23] <blc> because noone has said anything since you joined
[04:23] <antsee> lol sorry i'm really new as you can tell
[04:23] <blc> yes.. using chatzilla extension for firefox..
[04:24] <Martin^> hi-tech
[04:24] <antsee> I feel retarded now
[04:24] <blc> heh
[04:24] <blc> antsee: don't.. everyone has to be new at some point
[04:24] <antsee> blc: how do you find out which client people are using?
[04:24] <blc> antsee: in your case i see it in your hostmask
[04:24] <Martin^> a bit like me the past two weeks. i just started a math and physics course
[04:24] <blc> hehe
[04:25] <blc> i remember my first days here on efnet.. 8 years ago
[04:25] <Martin^> we started ircing about the same time then
[04:26] <blc> you didn't enter #help untill a few years ago though
[04:26] <Martin^> it might be closer to 10 years for my behalf come to think of it
[04:26] <Martin^> thats true
[04:26] <Martin^> i was lost until then :P
[04:26] <blc> i remember you coming here before starting on ntnu
[04:26] <Martin^> wtf
[04:26] <Martin^> o_O
[04:26] <Martin^> are you stalking me?
[04:27] <blc> you had a different nick back then..
[04:27] <Martin^> yep, Xorion
[04:27] <blc> no.. i just remember creepy info
[04:27] <Martin^> i de-cheezyfied myself
[04:27] <Martin^> heh,yeah, thats kinda creepy
[04:27] <Martin^> a bit like that bash.org "how do you know where i live" quote
[04:27] <MornStar> is it as creepy as.. me knowing your name is martin!?
[04:27] <Martin^> MornStar: far out!
[04:27] <blc> hehe
[04:28] <Martin^> im quitting my job at ntnu now though, gonna become a full time student
[04:29] <Martin^> feels good :O
[04:29] <blc> on informatikk?
[04:30] <blc> antsee: feel free to ask anything.. it's through curiosity you learn. :)
[04:30] <blc> Martin^: wasn't xorion also the name of a irc client?
[04:34] <antsee> So there's no nick registration on here?
[04:34] <blc> antsee: no.. there are no registration services on efnet
[04:40] <activator> hey everyone
[04:40] <activator> whats the command for chkdsk to fix the problems after computer reboots
[04:40] <activator> i am trying to do chkdsk thrgh CMD in win XP Pro
[04:41] <ducch> anyone knows of a non-fraud program like google's adsense?
[04:47] <cypha> can you create an OS with C?
[04:50] <antsee> blc: thanks for the help!
[04:52] <Martin^> blc: dont really know. i came up with it when i was like... 12 i think. A m
[04:52] <Martin^> and also, i have three spots on my arm that look like orions belt
[04:52] <Martin^> hehe
[04:53] <Kor> my monitor just started freaking out recently, I thought it was dying but when
[04:53] <Kor> any guess on what the problem is?
[04:53] <Martin^> does it vibrate?
[04:53] <Kor> vid card, monitor
[04:53] <Kor> the picture does sometimes
[04:53] <Martin^> lowering the res probably automatically increased your hertz
[04:53] <Martin^> higher hertz = less shaky
[04:53] <Martin^> its a crt right?
[04:54] <Kor> yeah
[04:54] <Martin^> right
[04:54] <Kor> it was more than just virbration though
[04:54] <Martin^> and im also guessing that you live next to a power line / power pylons
[04:54] <Kor> the picture drifted more and more to the left
[04:54] <Kor> no, not really
[04:54] <Martin^> maybe they are underground :P
[04:54] <Kor> maybe
[04:54] <Martin^> anyways, increase the hertz
[04:54] <Kor> but it has been fine for over a year and just started this this week
[04:54] <Martin^> 85 should be good
[04:55] <activator> i am trying to do chkdsk thrgh CMD in win XP Pro
[04:55] <activator> whats the command for chkdsk to fix the problems after computer reboots
[04:55] <Martin^> well, believe it or not, that can be a result of a temperature drop outside
[04:55] <Kor> I'll give that a shot
[04:55] <Martin^> when the temp drops, people use more electricity, and the induction field f
[04:55] <Martin^> the crt i had at home until recently was stable during the summer, but shoo
[04:56] <Martin^> that, or your monitor just broke :P
[04:56] <Martin^> LCD's dont suffer the same problem
[04:57] <Kor> so it's likely not a vid card issue then
[04:57] <Kor> or heat or PSU
[04:58] <Kor> unfortunately I can run better than 60Hz on high resolutoins
[04:59] <Martin^> that sounds like a monitor problem
[04:59] <blc> Martin^: ah.. gotcha
[04:59] <Martin^> if you can afford it you should get an LCD. less space, better picture, les
[05:00] <blc> still a heaterpanel though..
[05:00] <n00b481> Hello
[05:00] <blc> just not as much as crt's
[05:01] <Kor> yeah, I can't afford an lcd currently though :(
[05:01] <Martin^> heh, i never noticed that
[05:01] <Martin^> i just touched my monitor, never noticed how warm it is
[05:01] <blc> they get pretty warm
[05:01] <n00b481> As you probably know already - I need help
[05:01] <Martin^> my laptop monitor isnt warm though
[05:01] <blc> n00b481: read the topic.. just ask
[05:03] <n00b481> Well... It's stupid, but here goes: I'm not into IRC, but I need to use it
[05:03] <n00b481> And the question is: what channel would be the best?
[05:03] <Martin^> you could allways just hang around here and try answering questions
[05:04] <n00b481> Well, I could
[05:04] <Martin^> for idle chat, find some subject you like
[05:04] <n00b481> But that's practising, not polishing :)
[05:04] <Martin^> i like 3dsmax for instance, so i rant about in #3dsmax
[05:05] <n00b481> Actually I'd like to talk about nothing :)
[05:05] <n00b481> Then what? #notking?
[05:05] <n00b481> *#nothing
[05:05] <warden_> Hi I'm trying to install a q6600 on p5L-VM 1394 Does anyone know if this is
[05:05] <n00b481> Just some grammatically correct babbling if you know what I mean
[05:06] <Martin^> channels usually aren't empirically tied to a given subject, you can talk c
[05:06] <Martin^> talk about how big your balls are for instance, thats bound to spark a disc
[05:06] <Kor> are compact fluorecent bulbs full of hazzardous materials like the big long flo
[05:06] <Martin^> Kor: yes
[05:06] <n00b481> Kor: No
[05:06] <warden_> Anyone know?
[05:06] <Martin^> no?
[05:06] <Kor> lol
[05:07] <n00b481> Long F
[05:07] <klosar> cam all on #janja
[05:07] <Kor> well I just broke one screwing it in and it didn't have all that gas come out
[05:07] <n00b481> Long FLs are filled with Hg
[05:07] <Kor> I think I'll be fine
[05:07] <Kor> or powder
[05:07] <Martin^> you have sars.
[05:07] <Martin^> :(
[05:07] <Kor> dam
[05:07] * Kor dies
[05:08] <n00b481> And compact might be filled with Neon, Hg or whatever...
[05:09] <n00b481> Did he really have to die the very moment before my answer?...
[05:09] <Kor> hrh
[05:10] <n00b481> At least his ghost is still here
[05:10] <n00b481> Hey Kor-ghost, tell Kor that he screwed up royally, but he'll be fine
[05:11] <n00b481> Anyway... Where are you from mostly?
[05:12] <J3ff> hello
[05:12] <J3ff> how do i find channels?
[05:12] <Martin^> /list subject
[05:13] <J3ff> Listing channels
[05:13] <J3ff> -
[05:13] <J3ff> LIST output too large, truncated
[05:13] <J3ff> i get that.
[05:13] * poseidun is now known as omnisient
[05:13] <Martin^> specify a subject
[05:14] <Martin^> ie /list music
[05:14] <Martin^> that will list all channel names with "music" in them
[05:14] <Saww> anyone got any good idea for keywords to look in googles for a specific format
[05:15] <dabuz> saww what do you mean ?
[05:16] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[05:16] <Saww> i am getting data from MSNp in some weird format/encoding.
[05:16] <Saww> "\###\###" (#=digit)
[05:17] <Saww> from what i can see the 3 first digits are always 327
[05:17] <Saww> i also found out that "\327\227" is "ç", chr(231)
[05:17] <Saww> "\327\251" is "ù" , chr(249)
[05:17] <Saww> "\327\243" is "ó", chr (243)
[05:17] <Saww> :S
[05:17] * Nilisco_ is now known as Nilisco
[05:19] <dabuz> :S
[05:25] <gopp> what is the direct download link to service pack 2 xp 64 bi
[05:25] <gopp> t
[05:27] <blc> doesn't that require genuine chekcs?
[05:27] <blc> checks even
[06:05] <dingalin> I am trying to troubleshoot the reason why I can't communicate with some d
[06:06] <dingalin> 1. PS3 is one of them 2. A network receiver. I was able to ping them both
[06:10] <pixil> So what's changed since yesterday? :-)
[06:11] <blc> you mean apart from denali going down?
[06:13] <pixil> blc: We've been fighting packets for about a week now, in case you hadn't not
[06:13] <pixil> But I was speaking to dingalin on what's changed since yesterday. :-)
[06:13] <pixil> I have got to get myself a second shell. :P
[06:13] <blc> i didn't know, but that explains why i've had intermittent connection issues
[06:13] <pixil> yeah :-/
[06:14] <pixil> We're not even sure who it is, yet. Unless that's changed too, since yesterd
[06:14] <pixil> Anyway...
[06:14] <deww> it was i
[06:14] <pixil> Who has a public nameserver somewhere in the UK that I can point our mail ser
[06:14] <deww> oh
[06:14] <deww> no, it was not i
[06:14] <blc> heh
[06:21] <Star_Fire> pix: try opendns.com
[06:24] <Sculay> what are the open ports non ssl on blessed.net
[06:24] <blc> Sculay: /motd irc.blessed.net
[06:25] <dingalin> nothing has changed really
[06:25] <Sculay> k
[06:25] <Sculay> doesnt say any ports
[06:26] <blc> Sculay: then it's most likely just 6667
[06:30] <absolute> i exited out of a screened bX session without detaching first, now it wont
[06:30] <Martin^> you can remotely detach it i think
[06:30] <Martin^> man screen
[06:31] <deww> screen -r
[06:31] <phisher1> absolute: word of advice.. don't use /detach with BitchX
[06:31] <krisp> screen -d -r
[06:31] <phisher1> just use screen
[06:31] <krisp> -d will detatch it and -r will reattach it
[06:31] <deww> i never got bx's detach to work properly
[06:31] <Martin^> i just used ctrl+a+d
[06:31] <phisher1> he's talking about /detach and scr-bx not screen
[06:31] <Martin^> oh
[06:31] <deww> then again i never liked bx ^_^
[06:31] <Martin^> mirc ftw
[06:31] <krisp> epic5 ftw :/
[06:31] <phisher1> anyway...
[06:32] <phisher1> pfft
[06:32] <phisher1> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
[06:33] <krisp> just use real screen next time
[06:33] <krisp> problem solved :)
[06:33] <drewbuntu> heh, good old fashion telnet window TW
[06:33] <drewbuntu> FTW
[06:33] <Martin^> RAW DATA FTW
[06:34] <phisher1> PRIVMSG #help: pfft
[06:34] <Martin^> i just have an LED flashing binary code for whats going on on irc. i respon
[06:35] <drewbuntu> now your trolling
[06:35] <Martin^> well observed
[06:35] <krisp> :irc.nac.net 401 phisher1 #help: :No such nick/channel
[06:35] <krisp> ;)
[06:35] <phisher1> heh
[06:36] <krisp> could have your keyboard leds flash morse to you if you were sadistic enough
[06:37] <Jumpie> sup
[06:37] <krisp> hello
[06:37] <Jumpie> hey phisher, deww, krisp
[06:37] <blc> sadistic would be to rewire them through optocouplers, and attach giant lights
[06:37] <phisher1> hi Jumpie
[06:37] <phisher1> naa
[06:38] <phisher1> assign sound frequencies to each character
[06:38] <krisp> that'd be pretty bad, bl
[06:38] <Jumpie> its possible blc
[06:38] <krisp> blc*
[06:38] <phisher1> Bum BUM bum bum BUMMMMMMMMMM
[06:38] <Jumpie> that'd be trippy though
[06:38] <blc> i know it's possible
[06:38] <blc> just weirdos would actually do it though
[06:41] <Jumpie> blc i bet its also possible to text your cell phone on perform when someone
[06:41] <Jumpie> would have to tie into another program you wrote/configured though
[06:41] <Jumpie> thats ultra nerdly tho
[06:42] <blc> that's expensive
[06:45] <Jumpie> could be
[06:45] <Jumpie> you could write a script that acesses a web based text to phone gateway
[06:45] <Jumpie> for your carrier
[06:45] <Pope__> looking at this form in Word
[06:46] <Pope__> can't figure out how they made it
[06:46] <Jumpie> blc i think im gonna try it :)
[06:46] <Jumpie> just to improve my vb programming
[06:46] <Jumpie> nice host pope
[06:46] <Jumpie> lol
[06:47] <Pope__> thx :)
[06:48] <pixil> DNS polluting should be a crime.
[06:48] <pixil> :p
[06:49] <Pope__> what's DNS polluting
[06:49] <blc> your vhost is dns pollution
[06:50] <phisher1> when.your.hostname.is.way.too.many.subdomains.designed.only.to.look.cool.c
[06:50] <Jumpie> well doing a /whois Pope__ is an example
[06:50] <Jumpie> :D
[06:50] <Jumpie> hahaah
[06:50] <Jumpie> well i guess if you own the record for whatever...its all on you
[06:51] <Pope__> :)
[06:51] <Pope__> don't see anything wrong with that
[06:51] <Jumpie> so pope whast this doc problem
[06:51] <Pope__> I figured it out
[06:51] <Pope__> uses some weird formatting
[06:51] <Pope__> I thought it used form fields
[06:53] <Jumpie> i used to own whozyodaddy.com
[06:53] <JohnCache> I'm trying to think of a word but it's just not coming to me. It describ
[06:53] <Jumpie> dingbat?
[06:53] <JohnCache> Nah... It's something like dir_____
[06:53] <JohnCache> i think
[06:53] <JohnCache> but i'm not sure
[06:54] <Jumpie> direlect?
[06:54] <Jumpie> lookin on thesaurus
[06:54] <JohnCache> that's similar... but not quite the word. It might not start with dir ac
[06:54] <Jumpie> dont see any such
[06:54] <JohnCache> yes, same here
[06:54] <Jumpie> juvenile
[06:54] <Jumpie> puerile
[06:55] <JohnCache> good choices but not quite. It's like when a high school kid is an immat
[06:55] <Jumpie> dense
[06:55] <Jumpie> hehh
[06:55] <Jumpie> callow?
[06:55] <JohnCache> sorry, it's a very mature word but I just wish i could think of what it w
[06:56] <Jumpie> im lookin under thesaurus for underachiever
[06:56] <Jumpie> and direlect is there
[06:56] <Jumpie> defaulter
[06:56] <Jumpie> er derelict
[06:56] <Jumpie> remember that book 'derelection of duty'
[06:57] <JohnCache> I appreciate the help. I'm also currently looking at the theasurus and I
[06:57] <Jumpie> heh np
[06:57] <Jumpie> thanks man...now its gonna bug me
[06:57] <Jumpie> :
[06:57] <blc> heh
[06:58] <JohnCache> yeah that's why I'm gonna let ya know what the word is... :) sry bout tha
[06:59] <microJunk> is it worth it to go for xbox360 elite rather than the premium?
[07:00] <microJunk> the prem = 20gig drive vs elite = 120 gig, i don't own xbox, does the dri
[07:04] <deww> only if you buy games online
[07:04] <deww> make sure you get a new model with hdmi output even if you don't use it at the
[07:05] <JohnCache> Jumpie: Thanks a lot for the help. The word must have been "delinquent"
[07:05] <Jumpie> oh duh!
[07:05] <Jumpie> if you said criminal
[07:05] <Jumpie> lol
[07:05] <JohnCache> haha, yeah
[07:05] <Jumpie> i wouldnt associate delinquient with immature
[07:06] <blue^moon> I would
[07:06] <Jumpie> well...yes...but not strictly
[07:06] <Jumpie> delinquents may be immature, but not all immature people are that
[07:06] <Jumpie> i think of that as teenager 'trouble makers' :)
[07:07] <blue^moon> either way, not a nice animal to be around
[07:07] <Jumpie> true that
[07:07] <Jumpie> i'd say i had my 'delinquent' years :)
[07:07] <blue^moon> oh me too
[07:08] <blue^moon> and I'm sure I was just as obnoxious
[07:08] <Torob> usually when i install winamp, and turn on its global hot keys, it recognizes
[07:08] <Torob> and i just formatted too..
[07:08] <blue^moon> is there an install log you can look at
[07:18] <Torob> uhm
[07:18] <Torob> blue if that was for me, im checking right now
[07:31] <Anthr4x0s> 0_0
[07:32] <bassgoon> wow...
[07:32] <compdoc> script seems to work
[07:33] * Mattvixen is now known as J_Torrenc
[07:33] * J_Torrenc is now known as jTorrence
[07:34] -RBL:#Help- Channel locked temporarily due to flood.
[07:37] <compdoc> thats a little late
[07:38] <bassgoon> lol
[07:41] * shokooo is now known as lahaVV
[07:42] <MrMeth> I have a 80gig hdd filled to the max with .mp3. Is there anyway to compress
[07:43] <compdoc> mp3 is pretty compressed already
[07:43] <MrMeth> yea thas wha I thought
[07:43] <compdoc> time for a 500 gig drive
[07:43] <MrMeth> I think when I buy a new one it's gonna be the 750
[07:43] <compdoc> there ya go
[07:43] <MrMeth> $159
[07:44] <MrMeth> there's an External 1TB in the flyer for $199 But last time I bought a exte
[07:45] <compdoc> externals tend to have problems over time
[07:47] <MrMeth> I have a 120gig here, but one day it just stoped spinning, there is like no
[07:47] <MrMeth> once in a long time it will kick in
[07:48] <MrMeth> happened when the power went out
[07:49] <MrMeth> :/
[07:49] <Anthr4x0s> argh
[07:49] <Anthr4x0s> this idiot is hitting multiple chans
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[07:53] <MrMeth> How much space does Microsoft Disc Compression actually give?
[07:54] <MrMeth> /gig
[07:55] <deww> MrMeth: depends
[07:55] <MrMeth> on the files that r on disc?
[07:55] <deww> MrMeth: if the files on it are not compressible, none
[07:55] <nollan> Hello I have a problem. Hope anyone could help me to solve it. Ok, first off
[07:55] <MrMeth> k
[07:57] * jTorrence is now known as Matt`
[07:58] * Aphee is now known as Aphy
[08:00] <yoda-> anyone know anything about finalscratch/traktorscratch or seratoscratchlive ?
[08:01] <Sycho> tis usually better to install windows and then linux, then the latter will lo
[08:01] <Chrono-Z> Is it safe to pay your bills online via public wifi like at a coffee house
[08:04] <nollan> Sycho: but is there anyway to get this working again????
[08:04] <compdoc> if the pc has some sort of key logger, it might not be
[08:05] <Chrono-Z> Well I would be using my own macbook to do the task so I'm not sure if a k
[08:05] <compdoc> that should work
[08:06] <Chrono-Z> Excellent, thank you very much.
[08:24] <jse> anyone know how to make an sfv with hksfv?
[08:25] <jse> shell intergration doesent work with windows server 2003
[08:26] <activator> do any o fyou here got any EXAM Prep stuff for MCP?
[08:27] <jse> im doing some mcps
[08:27] <jse> 70-270
[08:27] <MrMeth> Anyone know where I could buy a MicroSD wifi card? I see lots on google, bu
[08:27] <deww> MrMeth: does that actually exist?
[08:27] <MrMeth> yes
[08:28] <MrMeth> it's on google
[08:28] <MrMeth> says they been out for 2 years
[08:28] <deww> i've never heard about microsd wifi cards
[08:28] <deww> sd wifi yes, but not well supported
[08:28] <MrMeth> http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdw823.htm
[08:28] <jse> a wireless sd card seems lazy
[08:29] <compdoc> if you cant find something, it can be cuz its discontinued
[08:29] <deww> that's just stupid small :P
[08:29] <ASANTi> hey people, how can i identify some songs I heard on MTV Cribs
[08:29] <MrMeth> I need one for my HTC Touch
[08:29] <deww> and i never seen that beings sold
[08:30] <pixil> jse: There's a wear-and-tear factor.
[08:30] <pixil> But yeah...
[08:30] <deww> MrMeth: it might not even be supported
[08:30] <MrMeth> TELUS removed the Regestry settings and drivers for my onboard wifi
[08:30] <deww> it would be easier to add the registry settings back than toe find that card
[08:30] <deww> toe/to
[08:31] <deww> and make it work
[08:31] <MrMeth> it's soo new, that none has done it yet.... XDA fourms don't even have anyth
[08:32] <deww> i wouldn't actually count on that microsd wifi card to actually be sold
[08:32] <MrMeth> and since TELUS is canadian, It prob will never be fixed
[08:32] <deww> well
[08:33] <MrMeth> they also locked the GPS out on it, but recently unlocked it. Maybe one day
[08:33] <deww> i guess according to http://www.cecompass.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&Pr
[08:33] <deww> you can buy it
[08:33] <deww> wiat is that even a proper card
[08:33] <deww> hrm
[08:33] <MrMeth> my HTC has a option for "External wifif"
[08:35] <MrMeth> 39.95 thas good
[08:35] <MrMeth> is that a trusted site Deww?
[08:37] <MrMeth> Im makin an account there now
[08:39] <KosheeN> im cracking said account now
[08:39] <MrMeth> wha?
[08:40] <MrMeth> new DirectX video driver for my HTC :>
[08:41] <MrMeth> what is MMs?
[08:41] <compdoc> heh
[08:42] <MrMeth> DirectX video driver, enable MMS, and update to windows 6.1
[08:47] <NorthLion> Hey.. I have a problem here.. anyone know about Video capturing via a usb
[08:49] <compdoc> Ive seen some, but I think cards tend to work better
[08:49] <compdoc> I owned a usb device, but they stopped supporting it
[08:50] <MrMeth> I have an OLD Zoltix TV Tunner u can have :> It actually works better the
[08:55] <NorthLion> well I have a Yakumo MovieMixer.. it's all hooked up and installed and sh
[09:00] * _absolute is now known as absolute
[09:05] <deww> MrMeth: makesure that is the right card.
[09:05] <deww> MrMeth: i never been to the site before. it was an ad on google.
[09:19] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[09:26] <IamKing> that must have been a real "winner"! :P
[09:26] <w0t> :o
[09:27] <w0t> can someone help me with linux?
[09:27] <TheUni> w0t: see topic. just ask.
[09:27] <w0t> my panels are gone after a reboot, newest version of ubuntu.
[09:27] <TheUni> gnome?
[09:27] <w0t> i just got it today so i have no idea what to do.
[09:27] <w0t> kde i believe.
[09:28] <TheUni> ok. what panels gone?
[09:28] <w0t> the one on top (k-menu?) and the one that lists open applications
[09:29] <TheUni> w0t: if kde, alt+f2. then type: kicker
[09:29] <w0t> i'll try, 2 secs
[09:29] <phisher1> don't dare install kde4 yet though
[09:29] <TheUni> phisher1: i like it. very rough, but headed in a good direction
[09:29] <phisher1> sure..headed in right direction
[09:29] <w0t> there they are
[09:29] <w0t> thanks :)
[09:29] <TheUni> np
[09:30] <w0t> they're all in one bar now though.
[09:30] <w0t> strange
[09:30] <phisher1> kde4 is just nowhere near a useable level for me
[09:30] <TheUni> w0t: right click on the panel -> add new panel
[09:30] <w0t> ok.. one more thing, i have an icon i dunno what is
[09:30] <TheUni> phisher1: agreed. nothing more than a toy yet. 4.1 is supposted to be for th
[09:31] <w0t> gonna take a pic, brb
[09:31] <phisher1> ya.. I read that too
[09:31] <phisher1> too many features didn't get in by the feature freeze time
[09:31] <TheUni> i love all the backend stuff though. everything is VERY seperated out now
[09:31] <TheUni> plasma is going to rock
[09:31] <phisher1> ya..its a great platform to build upon
[09:32] <TheUni> will be nice to see amarok on my windows box too
[09:32] <TheUni> and k3b (maybe)
[09:33] <phisher1> i'd love to run amarok on my windows box
[09:33] <TheUni> those are the 2 apps when forced to use windows
[09:33] <phisher1> k3b I could really not care about
[09:33] <phisher1> I stopped using k3b would he would turn off dma after any burn =\
[09:33] <TheUni> (apps i miss most)
[09:33] <phisher1> when it would*
[09:33] <TheUni> heh
[09:34] <TheUni> you try k3b2 ?
[09:34] <phisher1> ehh, how recent is it?
[09:34] <phisher1> last I tried k3b was probably 2 years ago
[09:34] <TheUni> ehm... coincided with ubuntu feisty, iirc
[09:34] <TheUni> 6months maybe?
[09:34] <phisher1> oh ok
[09:34] <phisher1> well, I don't do much burning in linux anymore..but I'll have to check it
[09:34] <TheUni> worth another try.
[09:35] <phisher1> i went through a period of no windows at home..
[09:35] <phisher1> ya get those gaming fits though =\
[09:35] <phisher1> cedega won't cut it
[09:35] <TheUni> k3b > *. i love that i have a 100% legit. group of computers
[09:36] <TheUni> never had that until about a year ago when i finally killed windows. nice to
[09:37] <phisher1> haha Han Solo is about to be frozen in Carbonite
[09:37] <phisher1> soon as he started getting lowered in, my daughter started crying
[09:37] <phisher1> I feel her pain =\
[09:38] <solitude> :<
[09:38] <ASk> phisher1: how old is your daughter
[09:39] <ASk> and why are you letting her watch horror movies :p
[09:39] <w0t> what is this little thing?
[09:39] <w0t> http://062016161227.customer.alfanett.no/up/what.jpg
[09:39] <ASk> the star?
[09:39] <w0t> yes
[09:39] <ASk> looks like the gnome panel rolled up
[09:40] <w0t> hm, it says "new object" or something like that
[09:40] <w0t> and that it's not configured yet
[09:40] <ASk> gnome desktop widget, perhaps?
[09:40] <w0t> so, what is a gnome panel doing on my kde desktop?
[09:40] <ASk> shrug ;p
[09:40] <ASk> i assumed it was gnome
[09:40] <w0t> :v
[09:40] <ASk> could be kde
[09:41] <ASk> silly kubuntu users
[09:41] <TheUni> w0t: did you install unbuntu then kde? or install kubuntu?
[09:41] <TheUni> ASk: i'm a kde (kubuntu) user. wanna fight about it? :P
[09:41] <w0t> i installed ubuntu, but it had that k menu thing, so i assumed it was kde
[09:41] <ASk> TheUni: yeah :) I use flux.
[09:41] <w0t> mght even be gnome or all i know
[09:41] <TheUni> heh. the bastard child
[09:41] <w0t> i've used linux for less than a day so far
[09:42] <TheUni> w0t: if you ran kicker and it gave you your panel, that's kde.
[09:42] <phisher1> horror movies?
[09:42] <TheUni> w0t: is everything brown or blue?
[09:42] <phisher1> she's 11 months old
[09:42] <phisher1> and Empire Strikes Back is hardly a horror movie
[09:42] <w0t> used to be brown, after reboot it became blue
[09:43] <TheUni> w0t: sounds like you installed both and you were in a gnome session, now kde
[09:44] <TheUni> at the logon screen it should ask you which you want to use.
[09:44] <w0t> oh
[09:44] <w0t> well i'll look for that
[09:44] <TheUni> try them both. see what you like better. then stick with it
[09:44] <w0t> :)
[09:44] <phisher1> everytime I try gnome, i'm disappointed
[09:44] <phisher1> kde has always been my favorite
[09:45] <phisher1> with xfce probably being 2nd
[09:45] <TheUni> linux is all about choices/freedom. sometimes the problem is too much choice
[09:45] <TheUni> w0t: then be sure to HATE the other one and participate in flamewars ;)
[09:45] <w0t> i'll probably end up using whatever gives me sexy 3d desktop effects.
[09:45] <phisher1> both will
[09:45] <TheUni> w0t: either will do that
[09:45] <w0t> oh my, i'll be torn apart then. :(
[09:45] <TheUni> w0t: look into compiz
[09:45] <phisher1> 3d effecs is not a function of the desktop enviroment
[09:46] <phisher1> well, until kde4 =\
[09:46] <phisher1> they have their own composite manager
[09:46] <TheUni> phisher1: kde3 has a composite manager too. just doesn't work at all
[09:46] <w0t> what _is_ the function of the desktop environment then, that kde and gnome figh
[09:46] <phisher1> TheUni: with opengl support?
[09:47] <TheUni> phisher1: don't really know
[09:47] <phisher1> w0t: makes a graphical Xorg session user friendly
[09:47] <phisher1> otherwise you'd have a gray screen with nothing to do
[09:47] <TheUni> w0t: backend libs, really
[09:47] * DrNight yawns.
[09:47] <w0t> well
[09:47] <phisher1> ha i just did too
[09:48] <TheUni> w0t: but it's evolved into suites of programs too
[09:48] <DrNight> KDE on Windows sounds like it might be cool. ;)
[09:48] <phisher1> i've ran kde on windows
[09:48] <phisher1> x forwarding =)
[09:48] <DrNight> Well, I mean the new native port. ;)
[09:48] <TheUni> heh
[09:48] <TheUni> kde on windows would be neat if it replaced the shell also
[09:48] <TheUni> and not just kde APPS on windows
[09:49] <DrNight> I haven't used any shell replacements in a long time, heh.
[09:49] <phisher1> have you seen a shell that runs more efficiently on windows than explorer
[09:49] <TheUni> they're not worth a damn, imo. but kde would be worthy.
[09:49] * TheUni hasn't
[09:49] <pixil> LiteStep finally does.
[09:49] <DrNight> Not really.
[09:49] <phisher1> exactly =\
[09:49] <DrNight> It's been a while since I've used LS.
[09:49] <phisher1> efficiently though
[09:49] <pixil> LS has improved 10-fold.
[09:49] <phisher1> not just eye candy
[09:49] <TheUni> phisher1: but those are relatively small attempts. kde is a big community
[09:50] <DrNight> And it took a massive amount of configuration to get it to be a reasonable
[09:50] <DrNight> Might as well toss in a bit of Geoshell or something.
[09:50] <phisher1> welp, in windows, i'll stick with explorer..
[09:50] <pixil> DrNight: There is still configuring involved. But not nearly like before.
[09:50] <TheUni> but seems to me.. why bother? if you're replacing the shell and all the apps
[09:50] <pixil> Yeah. I still stick with explorer. It ends up having to run anyway. :-)
[09:50] <DrNight> It was kinda brutal before, heh.
[09:51] <DrNight> I don't have any stability problems on x64.
[09:51] <phisher1> my windows boxes run like a charm too
[09:51] <DrNight> Windows doesn't come up with nondescript error messages like FUCKING EVIL S
[09:51] <phisher1> as do my linux boxes
[09:51] <TheUni> DrNight: that's because it just BSOD's instead. heh
[09:52] <phisher1> stability comes from good hardware and a savy user
[09:52] <DrNight> Well, a kernel panic is what it is.
[09:52] <TheUni> phisher1: messed w/ opensolaris?
[09:52] <phisher1> not yet
[09:52] <DrNight> OpenSolaris is nice.
[09:52] <TheUni> i think that's my project for the weekend
[09:52] <TheUni> DrNight: play nice in a VM ?
[09:52] <phisher1> I never liked solaris on sparc..
[09:52] <DrNight> I haven't run it in one.
[09:52] <pixil> TheUni: Yes
[09:52] <phisher1> don't see why I'd like it on x86 =\
[09:52] <pixil> phisher1: Amen
[09:53] <TheUni> how is x64 support?
[09:53] <DrNight> It's stable with a great feature set.
[09:53] <phisher1> so is freebsd
[09:53] <pixil> No clue
[09:53] <DrNight> Hardware support is still iffy compared to linux.
[09:53] <DrNight> Nice that BSD gets DTrace and ZFS from it.
[09:53] <phisher1> i'll stick with my freebsd server and my windows and linux desktops
[09:53] <TheUni> just seems like the unicies are starting to catch on. want to be familiar wi
[09:53] * TheUni never understood ports enough to stick with bsd
[09:53] <phisher1> i did hear a rumor those that google might make a mass exodus to opensolar
[09:54] <darkstar`> wheni log into windows, it says new hardware found, and wants me to insta
[09:54] <TheUni> always go running back to apt
[09:54] <DrNight> I've got a lot of FreeBSD boxen at work.
[09:54] <phisher1> heh ports are easy cheesy
[09:54] <TheUni> phisher1: easier than apt-get install firefox ?
[09:54] <phisher1> pkg_add -r firefox
[09:54] * phisher1 whistles
[09:54] <TheUni> really?
[09:54] <DrNight> I haven't come across a distro that I'd really want for my desktop.
[09:55] <phisher1> really really..thats technically not 'ports' though
[09:55] <TheUni> apt-cache -search firefox
[09:55] <DrNight> I do a lot of gaming at home, though.
[09:55] * TheUni waits
[09:55] <phisher1> its precompiled binarys
[09:55] <pixil> DrNight: Gaming has my home machine on Windows still, yup.
[09:55] <phisher1> just like apt-get does when it can
[09:55] <phisher1> cd /usr/ports ; make search name=firefox
[09:55] <DrNight> Maybe I'll just put off a new PC until the next round of CPUs.
[09:55] <TheUni> pfft
[09:55] <TheUni> 1 point TheUni
[09:55] <phisher1> hahah
[09:55] <DrNight> Perhaps even delay until the next Windows.
[09:55] <DrNight> Vista has not impressed me enough to upgrade from XP x64.
[09:56] <phisher1> how many times has a kernel upgrade come up this week ??
[09:56] <phisher1> 7? 8 ?
[09:56] * phisher1 pets his freebsd kernel ;)
[09:56] <TheUni> hehe
[09:56] <nsfw> Blah blah blah :)
[09:56] <phisher1> i'm not badmouthing linux though
[09:56] * nsfw kills end users
[09:56] <TheUni> phisher1: not even linux that i like so much there.. all apt
[09:56] <phisher1> I love linux, and ever since I swallowed my pride and installed this new '
[09:56] <phisher1> I've loved it
[09:56] <phisher1> kubuntu actually
[09:56] <TheUni> yea
[09:56] <DrNight> Kubuntu pissed me off when I installed it.
[09:57] <phisher1> I was a gentooer
[09:57] <nsfw> Hey guys maybe one of you will know of something off hand :)
[09:57] <TheUni> that's why i don't even bother with rh/suse. all debian/ubuntu for me
[09:57] <DrNight> I had Gentoo on my router box before.
[09:57] <phisher1> we run red hat at work
[09:57] <nsfw> looking for a http based setup, iis, apache, wahtever, that will act sort of l
[09:57] <DrNight> I need to put a new OS on it.
[09:57] <DrNight> Well, actually, this is a new box.
[09:57] <nsfw> so that users can go to a site, see files, and be able to easily upload/downlo
[09:57] <DrNight> Well, not new, it's an old dual P3 with some SCSI disks.
[09:57] <TheUni> nsfw: linux or windows ?
[09:57] <nsfw> cause I'm haveing *WAY* too many problems with FTP and end users
[09:57] <nsfw> TheUni: I'm open to suggestions ;) haha
[09:58] <phisher1> nsfw: linux or freebsd and pure-ftpd
[09:58] <TheUni> nsfw: if it were up to me, debian LAMP + proftpd
[09:58] <nsfw> dude
[09:58] <nsfw> the whole point is FTP is not a solution :(
[09:58] <phisher1> oh
[09:58] <TheUni> oh, sorry
[09:58] <nsfw> It's causing *WAY* too many problems
[09:58] <phisher1> thought you were looking for an ftp solution
[09:58] <nsfw> No, I have a ftp server set up
[09:58] <TheUni> me too
[09:58] <DrNight> Can't you do something like WebDAV?
[09:58] <phisher1> get some php file manager thingy
[09:58] <TheUni> simple php script?
[09:58] <nsfw> my problem is, alot of thier clients block ftp
[09:58] <pixil> plenty of php file upload/download scripts out there
[09:59] <nsfw> or worse, it turns out that at least one city is caching ftp :|
[09:59] <TheUni> heh
[09:59] <TheUni> all #help thinks alike
[09:59] <phisher1> caching ftp ?
[09:59] <TheUni> phisher1: ftp clients cache dirlists
[09:59] <nsfw> I dunno how they are doing it :|
[09:59] <phisher1> oh well.. ya
[09:59] <nsfw> yeah it's the dirlist, but it's at a network level
[09:59] <TheUni> ftp proxy ??
[09:59] <nsfw> so they will create a new folder/upload more files and they won't see them
[09:59] <nsfw> until the next week
[09:59] <DrNight> That's disturbing.
[09:59] <nsfw> I know
[09:59] <DrNight> Caching gone wrong, heh.
[10:00] <phisher1> tonight on FOX
[10:00] * TheUni cringes... sharepoint ?
[10:00] <phisher1> heh no thanks
[10:00] <phisher1> life is a windows guy though
[10:00] <phisher1> might be right up your alley
[10:00] <nsfw> I'm kinda close to sharepoint, but ugh you have no idea the ahte hate relation
[10:00] <TheUni> just throwing it out there :)
[10:01] <nsfw> I think I actually hate sharepoint more now that I've done the microsoft semin
[10:01] <TheUni> i agree. just making suggestions
[10:01] <phisher1> how about a windows share from a 98 box?
[10:01] * phisher1 runs
[10:01] <TheUni> heh
[10:01] <nsfw> ahahahaha
[10:01] <TheUni> nsfw: sounds like php file manager may be your best bet
[10:01] <nsfw> I'm just tired of taking calls from other places because they aren't smart eno
[10:01] <TheUni> looking for a whole suite? or just file transfers ?
[10:01] <phisher1> try out some of the php file managers then
[10:02] <nsfw> well they just need file transfers, but it needs to be login restricted and it
[10:02] <phisher1> hell...write one.
[10:02] <TheUni> zimbra is decent w/ files. adds groupware too.
[10:02] <nsfw> ie, I need to be able to basically create a login/manage users similar to ftp
[10:02] <TheUni> nsfw: ajax file manager would be easiest for clients.
[10:02] <phisher1> if you had a web frontend, authentication would be no problem
[10:03] <phisher1> drone looking much?
[10:04] <phisher1> hehe i love my work laptop
[10:04] <phisher1> tiny and light
[10:04] <phisher1> perfect for eh.. 'the throne'
[10:04] <BIJJ> i have outlook express on my pc @ home if i want to the emails to get send to
[10:04] <nsfw> BIJJ: Umm, depends on your phone provider
[10:04] <nsfw> and your phone
[10:05] <BIJJ> it give my a option to add my server , but i want a copy going to my pc and my
[10:05] <TheUni> BIJJ: it's a pain if you're using pop
[10:05] <phisher1> you want the emails to get send to your windows mobile phone on your PC an
[10:05] <BIJJ> yeah thats what im using
[10:06] <DrNight> The best way I've found is just to sync with Outlook, heh.
[10:06] <TheUni> BIJJ: is imap an option?
[10:06] <BIJJ> phisher, yes
[10:06] <phisher1> what is a windows mobile phone on a PC ?
[10:06] <BIJJ> no no
[10:06] <BIJJ> windows moblie on my phone and my home computer...
[10:07] <TheUni> BIJJ: realy your only option is to set all of those clients to "leave a copy
[10:07] <BIJJ> yeah ur right
[10:07] <TheUni> then have 1 that deletes after x days or after deleting from trash
[10:07] <TheUni> pop is no good for more than 1 client.
[10:07] <DrNight> It will do IMAP.
[10:08] <TheUni> yup. imap would work perfectly
[10:08] <DrNight> Are you running WM5 or 6?
[10:08] <BIJJ> whats does imap do..
[10:08] <TheUni> server probably doesn't support though, if i had to guess
[10:08] <BIJJ> 6
[10:08] <TheUni> BIJJ: who's the email through?
[10:08] <DrNight> IMAP is another way to talking to the mail server.
[10:08] <BIJJ> pop
[10:08] <DrNight> POP3 is intended to download all mail to the client and works poorly otherw
[10:09] <TheUni> BIJJ: what's the domain i mean? att? comcast? your own domain? etc
[10:09] <BIJJ> our own
[10:09] <TheUni> whose? work?
[10:09] <BIJJ> yes
[10:09] <TheUni> do you run the servers yourselves?
[10:10] <TheUni> ask IT if IMAP is supported. if so, ask them for the server settings. that's
[10:10] <BIJJ> yeah our provider is ThirdShere
[10:10] <BIJJ> there ok.. for 15 bucks a month
[10:10] <phisher1> 15 bucks a month for email ?
[10:10] <TheUni> BIJJ: i pay $7 for 1and1 and get imap + lots of other features
[10:11] <TheUni> so it's probably supported
[10:13] <kidonwork> can anyone recommend a code editor?
[10:13] <kidonwork> its just for monkeying with html, nothing too complicated
[10:13] <TheUni> kidonwork: what language/os ?
[10:13] <nsfw> bleh
[10:14] <BIJJ> yeah
[10:15] <nsfw> okay so I have some noobish SNMP questions :)
[10:16] <nsfw> with SNMP, in my various devices (or semi-automatically as it turns out from m
[10:16] <Kasino> i have 2gb of ram on my computer, if i get 4gb for ready boost will i see a
[10:16] <nsfw> Kasino: Depends on what your doing
[10:16] <TheUni> Kasino: ram is not for readyboost
[10:16] <nsfw> I'm running an snmp client/trapping program on my computer so Im setting the I
[10:16] <nsfw> readyboost is a flash drive isn't it?
[10:16] <Kasino> i mean a 4gb usb drive
[10:16] <Kasino> yeah
[10:16] <Kasino> its readyboost compatible and all that
[10:16] <nsfw> Kasino: Readyboost is largely useless at this point in time
[10:16] <Kasino> really?
[10:17] <nsfw> So, my understanding of SNMP, is that all the diff events that each device gen
[10:17] <nsfw> and then, from there, based on the trapping rules I have set, it takes whateve
[10:17] <Kasino> so with 2gb of hardware ram, and im getting a 4gb flash stick (which ive rea
[10:18] <nsfw> Kasino: You probably won't notice a substantial increase in performance
[10:18] <nsfw> everything I've read review wise shows readyboost to be not really well used/i
[10:18] <nsfw> maybe in the future it'll work better, but everyone I know says don't bother r
[10:23] <Kasino> are you sure?
[10:23] <Kasino> 4gb of readyboost sounds like a lot, especially since they say 8gb with comp
[10:29] <ASk> Kasino: RAM is still ~100 times faster
[10:29] <ASk> latency-wise
[10:29] <ASk> and ~1000 times faster throughput-wise
[10:31] <IamKing> ReadyBoost is an absolute sham
[10:32] <intx> !
[10:32] <intx> readyboost with compression?!
[10:32] <intx> that's scary.
[10:32] <intx> flash is slow enough :P
[10:32] <IamKing> lol
[10:33] <MrMeth> Im beginning to think Winamp made a deal with Record Companys to play certai
[10:34] <intx> not impossible, they did get bought out by AOL and i'm not sure what AOL suppo
[10:35] <deww> besides the "ISP" part of AOL, they do a lot of interesting things in the back
[10:35] <deww> so who knows
[10:35] <ASk> MrMeth: use foobar2000 :)
[10:35] <MrMeth> seems every 2,3 or 4 songs is a current (ly) Hit
[10:36] <MrMeth> Ive used Winamp since 96
[10:36] <MrMeth> same skin w/DFX enhancment
[10:36] <intx> foobar needs a better interface
[10:37] <intx> i like the winamp/xmms interface :p
[10:37] <MrMeth> yes
[10:41] <MarkC> hey guys, I have my pc hooked up to my flatscreen, and when I boot it up, it
[10:41] <kingpimpo> your desktop resolution is to high
[10:42] <Treval> Safe mode. <3
[10:42] <kingpimpo> connect teh pc back to a regular monitor and lower it down to match your
[10:42] <Xnomar> or refresh rate is too high
[10:42] <rhelic> MarkC: it doesn't like the resolution
[10:42] <rhelic> MarkC: try setting it really low, like 640x480, plug it in, then change the
[10:43] <kjhsdkjfh> hi
[10:43] <MarkC> the card only goes to 1024, the tv goes to 13 something
[10:43] <kingpimpo> do what rhelic said
[10:43] <kingpimpo> best way brahhh
[10:43] <neilcad> does this site offer pc help?
[10:44] <ASk> intx: interface to do what?
[10:44] <kingpimpo> this channell does
[10:44] <kingpimpo> whats your problem
[10:44] <ASk> do you look at your player when you listen to music? :p
[10:44] <MrMeth> Mine shows on a second monitor
[10:44] <deww> ASk: yes. my ipodz r shinee
[10:44] <kjhsdkjfh> this channel from where?
[10:44] <ASk> deww: :)
[10:44] <rhelic> MarkC: is this a HDTV or a normal TV?
[10:44] <neilcad> i cant get into my bios, i just get a black screen and windows loads
[10:45] <neilcad> i dont get the info screen anymore
[10:45] <rhelic> neilcad: keep hitting DEL when the computer boots
[10:45] <MarkC> it's an hdtv
[10:45] * kjhsdkjfh is now known as Rodrigo
[10:45] <neilcad> ive tried but no joy
[10:47] <deww> neilcad: f2, del, esc, f1, f12
[10:47] <neilcad> since ive installed vista, i dont get the info screen anymore just a black
[10:48] <deww> this is when you first actually power on from a full shutdown
[10:48] <neilcad> ye
[10:48] <MrMeth> <@deww> in that order? sounds like a special move in a game
[10:48] <neilcad> from power on, black screen all the way then windows
[10:49] <deww> neilcad: press the keys about a second into power on
[10:49] <neilcad> k will try now cheers
[10:49] <ASk> anyway, if you are really into foobar interface mods, use FoFR
[10:50] <capnchaos> hey guys, i need some help..erm, well, not really. i have a question: how
[10:51] <Treval> I don't think PS2 allows you to do that. :P
[10:51] <capnchaos> :O really?
[10:51] <Treval> Since it doesn't allow copied stuff.
[10:51] <MrMeth> A Mod Chip will help u out
[10:51] <capnchaos> :|
[10:51] * Treval slaps Meth
[10:51] <Treval> Not to be discussed here.
[10:51] <MrMeth> o
[10:52] <MrMeth> didn't relize they was illegal
[10:52] <capnchaos> ...
[10:52] <MrMeth> since u can buy em at half the PC stores in Halifax
[10:53] <capnchaos> are you serious?
[10:53] <capnchaos> thats weird
[10:53] <Treval> Yeah you totally can.
[10:53] <Treval> Meth you live in the UK. O.o
[10:53] <MrMeth> maybe they not supposed to be sellin em
[10:53] <MrMeth> :/
[10:53] <Treval> Of course they're not.
[10:53] <MrMeth> heh
[10:53] <Treval> It's not an official piece.
[10:54] <neilcad> no joy still just black screen
[10:54] <MrMeth> haha some even advertise to install
[10:54] <Treval> Where do you live Meth? GhettoHood?
[10:54] <Treval> Suburbia? >P
[10:54] <MrMeth> Nova Scotia
[10:54] <Treval> Myes
[10:54] <capnchaos> im in ontario =]
[10:55] <RcHaCk> what about nova scotia ?
[10:55] <MrMeth> it's a great place
[10:55] <neilcad> deww- any other ideas mate
[10:55] <RcHaCk> have you been ?
[10:55] <MrMeth> Im here now
[10:55] <RcHaCk> ohh nice where abouts
[10:55] <MrMeth> in tthe Anapolas Valley
[10:55] <RcHaCk> thats where my family is from
[10:55] <capnchaos> :O
[10:56] <RcHaCk> NS mainly cape breton
[10:56] <capnchaos> i went there last summer
[10:56] <MrMeth> Cape Breton is like Newfoundland, they got their own accent an all
[10:57] <RcHaCk> ya some areas have thick accents there
[10:57] <RcHaCk> gaelic and french and english mixed
[10:58] <deww> neilcad: which keys did you try?
[10:58] <MrMeth> My family's from England, moved here in the 40's
[10:58] <deww> neilcad: you can also try holding down a key and power on and see if the syste
[11:01] <neilcad> all
[11:02] <deww> no idea
[11:02] <deww> it's not a vista issue for sure. vista is past bios
[11:03] <capnchaos> is vista worth switching to on a pentium 4 cpu?
[11:03] <deww> capnchaos: please disable the colors / highlighting
[11:04] * IamKing is now known as IamHabeeb
[11:04] <capnchaos> uh, ok
[11:04] <neilcad> wish id never done vista , bloody nuisance
[11:04] * IamHabeeb is now known as IamKing
[11:04] <deww> uh, thanks!
[11:04] <neilcad> sorry its not a vista issue
[11:04] <neilcad> miss read then
[11:05] <TheUni> neilcad: what's the problem, can't get into bios ?
[11:06] <Shemploo> I got a quick question about Motherboard temerature
[11:06] <neilcad> yep, just get a black screen followed by windows
[11:06] <Shemploo> if anyone is around
[11:06] <capnchaos> k, i might be able to help
[11:06] <neilcad> no info screen anymore
[11:06] <TheUni> neilcad: what kind of computer?
[11:06] <neilcad> packard bell
[11:06] <TheUni> they still make those?
[11:07] <neilcad> about 3 years old like
[11:07] <TheUni> neilcad: like dell said: turn it on and start mashing buttons. f1, f2, f8, e
[11:08] <Shemploo> is 96 degree F an ok Temperature for an overclocked motherboard?
[11:08] <neilcad> tried that but no joy yet
[11:08] <RBL> 96 degrees Fahrenheit = 35.5555556 degrees Celsius -phisher1
[11:08] <phisher1> yes
[11:08] <MrMeth> are there any broadband co. that give more then 15mbit?
[11:08] <capnchaos> hmmm, how long has your pc been running>
[11:09] <Shemploo> the Yes was an answer to me?
[11:09] <phisher1> Shemploo: yes
[11:09] <Shemploo> Can you recommend a setting for an alert?
[11:09] <Shemploo> maybe 110F or so?
[11:10] <bizman> Hey guys, i am using a very basic php mail() function script and i am runnin
[11:10] <TheUni> MrMeth: fios goes higher than that, i think
[11:10] <capnchaos> i think that over 115 F you should be alarmed
[11:10] <MrMeth> coo
[11:11] <TheUni> actually
[11:11] <TheUni> looks like fios highest is 15/15. sorry
[11:11] <phisher1> i'd go a tad higher than that..
[11:11] <Shemploo> I also saw my SB Core flash
[11:11] <Shemploo> as in warning , but only for couple seconds then it went back down
[11:12] <MrMeth> I have 15, jus wondering because my providor advertises that it's the fastes
[11:12] <Shemploo> its at 1.55v right now
[11:12] <TheUni> MrMeth: must be nice. what isp?
[11:12] <MrMeth> Eastlink
[11:12] <Shemploo> I have FiOS right now MrMeth
[11:12] <TheUni> MrMeth: where are you?
[11:12] <Shemploo> it kicks butt
[11:12] <MrMeth> Atlantic Canada
[11:12] <TheUni> ah
[11:13] <chains> any freebsd people here?
[11:13] <TheUni> silly canucks. bring that speed down south!
[11:13] <MrMeth> :)
[11:13] <phisher1> chains: yes
[11:13] <MrMeth> you got too many people there
[11:13] <chains> phisher1: i need help setting up my network and ports
[11:13] <chains> and i have a hangover and don't feel like rtfm
[11:13] <phisher1> what help do you need?
[11:13] <chains> this is a virtual machine
[11:14] <chains> well, i thought i had set up networking and ports but apparently not
[11:14] <chains> heh
[11:14] <Shemploo> my cpu is around 130F idel
[11:14] <Shemploo> hehe
[11:14] <phisher1> if you run ifconfig do you have an ethernet device?
[11:15] <chains> 3 things come up, lnc0, plip0, and lo0
[11:15] <phisher1> hmm, so no
[11:15] <phisher1> vmware?
[11:15] <chains> yup
[11:16] <chains> i have it set up for bridged networking
[11:16] <Torob> i have a webhosting service from network solutions.. i am trying to ssh so i
[11:16] <Torob> will it work if i just put site ip in? or something? nothing on their site sa
[11:16] <TheUni> Torob: if it works, probably ssh -l yourusername yourip
[11:17] <phisher1> oh wait, sorry, lnc0 is your ethernet
[11:17] <NorthLion> is there a plug-in for media player 11 that lets you scan through a video
[11:17] <chains> yah, i was thinking that too
[11:17] <Torob> im using putting right now..
[11:17] <Torob> i put that in cmd?
[11:17] <phisher1> doesn't appear to be recommended in freebsd though
[11:17] <TheUni> putty?
[11:17] <phisher1> what version of freebsd?
[11:17] <chains> phisher, 6.3
[11:17] <chains> latest
[11:17] <Torob> ssh program..
[11:18] <TheUni> right
[11:18] <phisher1> hmm. lnc is deprecated in freebsd 7.0
[11:18] <phisher1> but you can try to get lnc0 working
[11:18] <phisher1> ifconfig lnc0 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:18] <TheUni> Torob: unless you own the server, you probably can't just ssh <ipofserver
[11:18] <phisher1> give that a shot
[11:18] <phisher1> see if you can do that and at least ping it locally
[11:19] <Torob> TheUni: okay i got it, it sucks installing a CMS through ftp, takes ages..
[11:19] <TheUni> Torob: not saying you can't ssh, just not through that IP
[11:19] <phisher1> if that works, put in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_lnc0="inet 192.168.1.2 netmas
[11:19] <TheUni> it'd be more like ssh server1355.networksolutions.com
[11:19] <phisher1> substitute for your own network settings of course
[11:20] <Torob> TheUni: well im guessing if its not in their help section, it doesnt exist..
[11:20] <chains> phisher1: do i have to use a valid IP on my physical network?
[11:20] <TheUni> Torob: probably not then
[11:20] <phisher1> with bridged networking, of course.
[11:20] <chains> hmm
[11:22] <chains> changing it to NAT
[11:22] <chains> so it shares my IP
[11:22] <phisher1> uhh
[11:22] <phisher1> heh, ok
[11:22] <phisher1> up to you
[11:22] <TheUni> phisher1: got a network/vm question for you when you get done with him.
[11:22] <chains> i don't know what i have for available valid ips
[11:22] <chains> on this network
[11:23] <phisher1> thats how you assign the ip
[11:23] <TheUni> i've asked deww but he didn't know
[11:23] <phisher1> or you can just ifconfig_lnc0="DHCP"
[11:23] <phisher1> TheUni: shoot
[11:24] <TheUni> trying to setup a vm as a router. I've got a server that's doing everything
[11:24] <TheUni> all without the host exposed to the net
[11:25] <TheUni> err... exposed to the wAN.
[11:25] <dingalin> anyone here had success in installing wireless bridges
[11:25] <chains> phisher1: ok, i set ifconfig_lnc0="DHCP" in /etc/rc.conf
[11:25] <chains> how to restart network services?
[11:26] <TheUni> phisher1: possible, you think?
[11:26] <phisher1> chains: /etc/rc.d/dhclient restart
[11:27] <chains> doesn't seem to be picking up an IP
[11:27] <phisher1> TheUni: not sure on that one
[11:27] <TheUni> bah
[11:27] <phisher1> well the vm doesn't have a NIC
[11:27] <phisher1> what do you expect
[11:27] <phisher1> its not real
[11:27] <phisher1> it relies on the host machine
[11:28] <TheUni> right
[11:28] <TheUni> but i thought i might use iptables to forward all traffic to the virtual nic
[11:29] <phisher1> i'd have to mess with a senario like that to test
[11:29] <phisher1> I wouldn't run a router in a vm though
[11:29] <TheUni> phisher1: i want to learn iptables in realtime
[11:29] <TheUni> so i thought it'd be cool to run in a vm
[11:30] <phisher1> so set up an actual machine =\
[11:30] <TheUni> (just 2 computers in the network, btw)
[11:30] <deww> any of you guys know where i can easily find a ferrite bead / toroid?
[11:30] <phisher1> afk for a min
[11:32] <TheUni> deww: wikipedia shows list of vendors. looks like you won't find em at offic
[11:33] <estranger> heh my buddy works at a magnet plant
[11:34] <estranger> http://www.magneticsgroup.com/ hes there
[11:35] <deww> cool
[11:35] <bizinichi> how do i see what hard drives msdos can see on the command prompt cmd, in
[11:37] <deww> bizinichi: physical or including network?
[11:38] <bizinichi> well, any and all hdds that msdos has access to and can use
[11:38] <bizinichi> is there some kind of listing i can get of that type of info
[11:38] <deww> there isn't really a way afaik, you just have to know, but fdisk might tell yo
[11:39] <bizinichi> or do i just blindly do "cd a:\" "cd b:\" "cd c:\" onto z
[11:39] <phisher1> TheUni: how is your wan ip assigned? static or dhcp
[11:39] <rhelic> cd?
[11:39] <rhelic> C: isn't good enough anymore?
[11:40] <phisher1> TheUni: if you can staticlly assign your wan ip, there should be no reason
[11:40] <phisher1> and dhcp/nat from there to the host machine
[11:40] <bizinichi> deww well is it true you cant cd into a network hdd?
[11:40] <phisher1> and any other machine on the same physical network
[11:40] <bizinichi> rhelic ive always used cd since i was a kid
[11:40] <TheUni> phisher1: but i don't want the host exposed to the wan IP
[11:41] <phisher1> it wouldn't have to be
[11:41] <TheUni> how so?
[11:41] <phisher1> the host wouldn't require an IP address
[11:41] <phisher1> its a logical physical bridge
[11:41] <TheUni> you mean... bridge the connections, set host eth0 to nothing, and set guest
[11:42] <pixil> blc?
[11:42] <phisher1> correct
[11:42] <blc> yes?
[11:42] <TheUni> interesting...
[11:42] <phisher1> then if you wanted, nat from the guest machine to the rest of the network
[11:43] <phisher1> if you get wan ip via dhcp though, i'm afraid the host machine would pick
[11:43] <TheUni> exactly. then give the host the net back thru a vlan?
[11:43] <Shemploo> What is an acceptable CPU teperature for an overclocked Intel Core Duo?
[11:43] <phisher1> Shemploo: below 70C
[11:43] <deww> bizinichi: you can change to it as long as it is mappped
[11:43] <TheUni> phisher1: i want the host to have the net. but NAT'd first.
[11:43] <bizinichi> deww i cant seem to
[11:43] <phisher1> yes
[11:44] <phisher1> your guest would get your wan ip
[11:44] <phisher1> from there, treat it normally
[11:44] <TheUni> phisher1: great idea!
[11:44] <phisher1> give it a shot, lemme know how it goes
[11:44] <TheUni> never thought of just killing the host eth0, heh
[11:44] <phisher1> the nic will still have to be enabled of course
[11:44] <TheUni> right
[11:44] <phisher1> ahh even if you are dhcp
[11:44] <phisher1> give the host machine a local ip
[11:45] <phisher1> so it won't do any dhcp discover
[11:45] <TheUni> so...
[11:45] <Deadglow> anyone know how to set up port forwading on a brl-04ex router?
[11:45] <RBL> portforwarding: Learn how to port forward. See: http://www.portforward.com/ -ph
[11:45] <phisher1> that site probably does
[11:45] <blc> pixil: ?
[11:45] <TheUni> so, my wan is 82.*.*.*, i can set eth0 to 192.168.1.???, set the guest to pi
[11:46] <d--> we have a few student laptops for dial up and they keep getting (no dial tone e
[11:46] <phisher1> TheUni: correct
[11:46] <TheUni> veeery interesting. will give it a shot
[11:46] <deww> bizinichi: net use should show the mapped drives. you change to drive letter b
[11:46] <TheUni> thanks alot phisher1
[11:46] <phisher1> only reason I could see it failing is a cpe bind from your wan ip to your
[11:46] <phisher1> may have to reboot your modem
[11:47] <TheUni> yea it does that
[11:47] <TheUni> will do
[11:47] <d--> any ideas?
[11:47] <deww> d--: what was the result of the testing?
[11:48] <TheUni> phisher1: off to try. will let you know.
[11:48] <phisher1> cool man
[11:48] <phisher1> i'll be on and off
[11:48] <TheUni> k
[11:48] <phisher1> home with the baby alone right now =\
[11:49] <d--> what do u mean?
[11:49] <phisher1> d--: if you pick up a phone hooked up to the same phone lines
[11:49] <phisher1> do you get a dial tone ?
[11:49] <phisher1> and uh.. you said they had been tested at a few different households
[11:50] <phisher1> he was asking the result of those tests
[11:50] <d--> ya
[11:50] <phisher1> did they work ?
[11:50] <d--> the all dial fine w/ regular phone but not laptops
[11:50] <Kor> I'm running windows xp with 2 monitors and my desktop extended to the 2nd one
[11:50] <Kor> is there anyway to put the start menu on both
[11:50] <Kor> or extend it on both?
[11:51] <rhelic> Kor: the Nvidia drivers might have an option, or you can purchase a program
[11:51] <Kor> the whole taskbar I mean
[11:51] <rhelic> Kor: but Windows doesn't do it natively
[11:51] <Kor> hmm
[11:51] <rhelic> PowerTray iirc
[11:51] <Kor> only one of the graphics cards is nvidia
[11:51] <rhelic> you might be screwed
[11:52] <rhelic> kor: http://www.google.com/search?q=dual+monitor+extend+taskbar
[11:52] <rhelic> there's your options
[11:52] <rhelic> oh looks like there's a free option now http://www.mediachance.com/free/mul
[11:53] <Kor> cool, I'll check hat out
[11:53] <Kor> thanks
[11:55] <admin> I have a RG9/59 like conector for the output of video/audio here. but I need
[11:55] <admin> is there a converter one can get to use a coax and convert to RCA at the TV?
[11:55] <admin> coax being F-Type connectors not BNC
[11:56] <admin> the output is coming down channel 60 so a channel 3 convertor will be useless
[11:56] <bizinichi> does cygwin's mv command not take wildcards?
[11:56] <rhelic> adam1: of course, but it will require a powered box, and you realize you won
[11:56] <admin> bizinichi: it should be identical to any linuc mv command
[11:57] <admin> rhelic: I know it will need to be pwoered, and quality is not my concern
[11:57] <admin> I just have only RCA as possible inputs here
[11:58] <admin> and due to the distance I think coax as a trasport and a RCA converter at the
[11:59] <admin> besidesI do not think RCA is any better quality then coax anyhow
[12:00] <sqwob> does anyone here have any experience with php5-cgi processes consuming to muc
[12:00] <admin> sqwob: is it fastcgi?
[12:00] <admin> I seen anothe rbox do the same thing but only under fastcgi. I never found a
[12:01] <sqwob> i believe so (i never used it before, but the admin panel i'm using installed
[12:01] <admin> but I really do not use php for anythign..perl is much better :)
[12:01] <d--> so how can it bring up the 680 no dial tone if there is one
[12:01] <admin> sqwob: does your admin panel let you operate php in a module?
[12:01] <admin> I do not think php does a good cgi mode but that is just my opinion
[12:01] <sqwob> admin: it's quite new for me, i've only been using it for 3 days now on this
[12:02] <admin> cpanel?
[12:02] <sqwob> ispcpanel (free - a fork of vhcs2)
[12:02] <admin> probably not since cpanel deaults to amodule and not to cgi
[12:02] <admin> well two things you can try. run in normal cgi ir run php as an apache modul
[12:02] <admin> how you do this in that panel is beyond me as I only worked with plesk and cp
[12:03] <sqwob> yeah i checked their license prizes
[12:03] <sqwob> 1000+ for a 3 year license
[12:04] <nsfw> lol, that's about right haha
[12:10] <bizinichi> linux q: what is a multinetwork im client (aim + msn at the minimum) i ca
[12:10] <bizinichi> oh wait, i mean cli
[12:13] * Kalagar is now known as Kalagaraz
[12:14] <nsfw> bizinichi: trillian available on your os?
[12:14] <bizinichi> well isnt trillian gui based?
[12:15] <bizinichi> im sure i could compile it, does it have a cli client as well?
[12:15] <nsfw> oh *shrug*
[12:15] <nsfw> good luck with that one ;P
[12:15] <dingalin> nsfw
[12:15] <dingalin> remember me from yesterday?
[12:15] <dingalin> with all those problems as I was having?
[12:15] <pixil> How could we forget?
[12:16] <deww> bizinichi: time stamps can probably be scrippted into your irc client, ibut yo
[12:16] <dingalin> finally figured it out. It was well worth it
[12:16] <inco> HELP!
[12:16] <inco> i cant get my audio to work
[12:16] <pixil> dingalin: What did you figure out?
[12:17] <dingalin> it was a few configuration changes that had to be made on the router actin
[12:18] <admin> sqwob: you can get licensing on amonthly basis you know
[12:18] <admin> but it costs more after you paid it for 3 years
[12:19] <bizinichi> deww bitlebee looks like irc
[12:19] <dingalin> it's awesome not having to drill holes or go through the trouble of instal
[12:19] <admin> it is irc
[12:19] <admin> bitlbee is an irc interface for IM client
[12:19] <admin> it will let you connect to msn, icq, aim, yahoo and others via the irc server
[12:20] <admin> what bitlbee offers is the ability to turn any irc client into an IM client
[12:20] <admin> you then script for your irc client and the bitlebee serveryo uconnect to is
[12:21] <admin> inco: turn up the volume then
[12:21] <dingalin> like 5 days ago I asked in this channel if I could extend my network devic
[12:21] <bizinichi> so you run a bitlbee irc server on your permanent machine and connect to
[12:21] <pixil> What a royal pain in the ass.
[12:21] <admin> dingalin: I use electric outlets to extend my ethernet
[12:22] <admin> small cheap adaptors turns an electric outlet into ethernet port
[12:22] <pixil> Instant Messaging folks have truly gone out of their way to circumvent attemp
[12:22] <admin> but this was done before wifi existed on a wide scale so
[12:22] <chains> phisher1: still here?
[12:22] <dingalin> wait a second
[12:22] <bizinichi> pixil well, its to be expected, no?
[12:22] <phisher1> chains: ya
[12:22] <deww> +++
[12:22] <dingalin> admin: you don't have to wire or modify anything?
[12:22] <chains> phisher1: i redid the image and got networking up with DHCP
[12:22] <pixil> bizinichi: I suppose. If only admins knew the correct way to block IM.
[12:22] <admin> I just plug the ethernet in the nearest electric outlet
[12:22] <chains> i just need to figure out how to get ports going now
[12:23] <admin> and I have electric otlets anywhere I have a computer
[12:23] <admin> so it works well
[12:23] <phisher1> do you have ports installed?
[12:23] <chains> eg, portinstall app
[12:23] <dingalin> I don't get it
[12:23] <chains> phisher1: i said yes to the install question
[12:23] <bizinichi> pixil, well its just as easy to fire up a encrypted tunnel to a secondary
[12:23] <phisher1> but...
[12:23] <dingalin> that don't make sense
[12:23] <chains> phisher1: and /usr/ports exists
[12:23] <chains> but
[12:23] <pixil> bizinichi: The correct method will still block that, though.
[12:23] <admin> bitlbee has ap ublic server
[12:23] <admin> you do not need to install bitlebee locally
[12:23] <chains> portinstall or portupgrade are not recognized commands
[12:23] <dingalin> how do you transfer data if it's not the same electrical outlet?
[12:23] <admin> dingalin: all electrical outlets are connected
[12:23] <pixil> Unfortunatley SSL proxies start at $10,000.
[12:24] <bizinichi> admin that makes me nervous to have to reply on a central server
[12:24] <admin> how do yout hinkt he electricity gets around
[12:24] <bizinichi> *rely
[12:24] <phisher1> chains: as root?
[12:24] <phisher1> well, shouldn't matter
[12:24] <admin> bizinichi: your call on t hat just letting you know you can use the public se
[12:24] <bizinichi> cool
[12:24] <phisher1> thats odd
[12:24] <admin> I use the public one myself
[12:24] <dingalin> like how would I do that if I have one electrical outlet 4 rooms away and
[12:24] <dingalin> can you link me the device that you used
[12:24] <admin> bitlbee can be real fun to configure I am sure :)
[12:24] <admin> dingalin: one sec..let me try to find it
[12:25] <chains> phisher1: yah, i'm going to try to follow the handbook on it
[12:25] <dingalin> what's the point of having wireless
[12:25] <chains> but it appears there's a few ways to go about it
[12:25] <phisher1> chains: but you are root?
[12:25] <dingalin> if you can use an electrical outlet
[12:25] <chains> phisher1: yes
[12:25] <phisher1> I've never used portinstall
[12:25] <chains> which method does portinstall fall under?
[12:25] <admin> http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdapters
[12:25] <phisher1> I either install directly from the port dir or use pkg_add
[12:25] <admin> not th eone I bought but the one I bought was like 10 years ago
[12:26] <chains> hmm
[12:26] <admin> but that page has a netgear thing that does the same thing
[12:26] <chains> i set up portinstall
[12:26] <chains> it works like apt
[12:26] <admin> portinstall is just a shortcut to cd /usr/ports/dir/port/ && make install cle
[12:26] <admin> you could just cd to the prot dir and run make install clean
[12:26] <admin> and just be done with it
[12:27] <admin> but if you manage a lot of ports you might find portinstall handy to have aro
[12:27] <phisher1> ya, it seems thats all it really is
[12:27] <chains> well how do i install it
[12:27] <chains> heh
[12:27] <phisher1> I personally like using portsnap to sync ports and portmanager to handle u
[12:27] <chains> that's what i'm trying to figure out
[12:27] <admin> portinstall just automates a few things when using ports..but portson their o
[12:27] <admin> forinstance portupgrrade will do a pkg_Delete before doing a make install
[12:27] <admin> so you do not get a ocnflict
[12:27] <phisher1> portinstall should be apart of the base install
[12:28] <admin> it also auto cleans before and after any job
[12:28] <chains> admin: it was the method i used the only time i ever installed freebsd
[12:28] <admin> and portinstall does it job without you cd into the actual port diur
[12:28] <chains> right
[12:28] <chains> so how do i install it????
[12:28] <admin> it has a few other minor benefits but really its just a new face for the alre
[12:28] <phisher1> you said you installed 6.3 ?
[12:28] <chains> yep
[12:29] <admin> chains: try this: cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portinstall && make clean
[12:29] <admin> I think I got the path righ
[12:29] <admin> once you do that do not froget a rehash command for the tcsh users
[12:29] <phisher1> I don't even have portinstall in my ports tree
[12:29] <admin> phisher1: update your ports tree?
[12:29] <Sculptor> hi!
[12:29] <admin> how old of a box you running there?
[12:30] <admin> use portsnap
[12:30] <phisher1> uhh
[12:30] <admin> to freshen up your ports tree
[12:30] <phisher1> yes, I update just about daily.
[12:30] <admin> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade is what I have it
[12:30] <phisher1> portinstall comes with portupgrade
[12:30] <admin> and when in doubt there is pkg_Add -r portupgrade
[12:30] <phisher1> its not a standalone port.
[12:30] <admin> rather pkg_add
[12:31] <admin> sorry
[12:31] <admin> yes portinstall is part of portupgrade
[12:31] <admin> sorry if I used it wrong
[12:31] <admin> that was a type on y part above
[12:31] <phisher1> chains: so cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade-devel ; make install clean
[12:31] <admin> I was just piutting the ports path by memory
[12:31] <admin> devel huh?
[12:31] <phisher1> yes
[12:31] <admin> I would say dropt he devel but its your choice
[12:31] <phisher1> even recommended during the Xorg upgrade
[12:32] <chains> i used just portupgrade, not the -devel
[12:32] <admin> I have no good reason to use devel off hand
[12:32] <phisher1> well you claimed portinstall was in ports tree too
[12:32] <phisher1> your opinion is meaning less and less to me =\
[12:32] <chains> well, that's the command
[12:32] <admin> phisher1: I wasj ust running it off by memory
[12:32] <admin> so I used the wrong path name
[12:32] <chains> i'm reading that its equivalent to portupgrade -N
[12:32] <phisher1> the wrong application name
[12:32] <phisher1> anyway...
[12:32] <phisher1> both will suffice.
[12:33] <chains> so when i install portupgrade, that'll allow me to execute portinstall?
[12:33] <phisher1> yes
[12:33] <chains> word
[12:33] <chains> i gotta take notes
[12:33] <admin> chains: make sure to use rehash after if your on tcsh
[12:33] <chains> so i stop forgetting this stuff
[12:33] <chains> admin: yah, one thing i didn't like about freebsd
[12:33] <admin> if on bash I do not think this applies since bash does not cache the $PATH
[12:33] <chains> is having to rehash all the time
[12:33] <chains> i'm in sh
[12:33] <admin> well its not a bad thing
[12:33] <phisher1> install bash
[12:33] <admin> it has its benefits
[12:34] <chains> yah, i should install bash
[12:34] <admin> there is a reason for rehash and its mainly to imporve performance
[12:34] <pixil> cache $PATH ??
[12:34] <chains> how do i set my shell to use bash once its installed?
[12:34] <pixil> usermod
[12:34] <phisher1> then chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash youruser
[12:34] <admin> on bash anytime you run a $PATH command it has to search for the binary
[12:34] <admin> with tcsh its cached uponlgin or after any rehash command but thism eans new
[12:34] <admin> but its probably only a minor performance benefit
[12:35] <admin> I can not imaging using sh though
[12:35] <pixil> tcsh stores the path and name to very binary file in $PATH in memory?
[12:35] <chains> so chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash youruser
[12:35] <inco> admin: volume is turned up
[12:35] <admin> if your that opposed to tcsh try installing bash
[12:35] <chains> will set my new shell to bash?
[12:35] <phisher1> chains: yes
[12:35] <phisher1> you'll have to log in/out
[12:35] <chains> ok
[12:35] <admin> inco: my point is if you have a question you should give us some clue what yo
[12:36] <chains> i'll have to set this up on a machine at home as well
[12:36] <inco> well admin the sound doesnt work its finding the alsa drivers for my intel onb
[12:36] <admin> pixil: it stored only what bianries are where in cache
[12:36] <admin> pixil: so it does not have to search the entire $PATH on every command
[12:37] <admin> it just knows where to go
[12:37] <admin> bash on t he other hand searches the $PATH on every command that is not fully
[12:38] <admin> inco: did you get to verifying that freebsd is even detecting your sound card
[12:38] <admin> inco: sometimes the OSS software is the best way to go
[12:38] <inco> its debian
[12:38] <admin> its in ports somewhere
[12:38] <inco> ports?
[12:38] <admin> wellI know crap about l inux\
[12:38] <admin> keep thinking tihs is freebsd-help :)
[12:39] <chains> how come more companies don't use bsd based OS' vs linux?
[12:39] <phisher1> support
[12:39] <pixil> admin: I disagree, by the way. straceing a 'not found' command in both shell
[12:39] <chains> hmm
[12:40] <phisher1> anywho, time to goto work
[12:40] <pixil> Ah. Perhaps that's not the case on non-gnu systems, like freebsd.
[12:41] <pixil> Oh sweet. denali came back from the trenches.
[12:42] * pixal is now known as pixil
[12:43] <chains> anyone here familiar with PAE?
[12:44] <chains> physical address extension?
[12:45] <nsfw> what about it?
[12:47] <chains> i want to know how to go about enabling it in various OS'
[12:47] <chains> is it possible to do that in windows?
[12:49] <chains> looks like the server versions
[12:50] <IamKing> but that begs the question...why not just use a native 64-bit OS? :P
[12:50] <pixil> chains: Isn't it a BIOS option?
[12:51] <pixil> Seems like PAE is a setting on my servers (em64t)
[12:51] <ender-> Anyone have any idea when the Radeon HD 3850 AGP is going to be in stores?
[12:51] <pixil> Retail stores or online stores?
[12:51] <ender-> either
[12:52] <ender-> i had read mid-jan but its the 25th and i havent seen it anywhere yet
[12:53] <pixil> pci-e version has been out
[12:53] <pixil> I don't see anything about an agp version
[12:54] <ender-> there is one coming out, eventually
[12:56] <pixil> Sounds like an incredible waste of money, to me.
[12:57] <pixil> The AGP bus will limit a lot of that card's functionality
[12:59] <deww> chains: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig
[12:59] <pixil> Honestly can't find it for sale anywhere, although lots of sites claim it's "
[12:59] <ender-> umm the thing that PCIe has over agp is power, and cost of production
[12:59] <deww> chains: in case you haven't seen that yet
[13:00] <ender-> that card isnt 'too powerful for the agp slot' as lots of people keep saying
[13:01] <pixil> You need to understand the difference between agp and PCIe, it sounds like.
[13:01] <pixil> For starters, PCIe can send data through a number of streams. AGP is limited
[13:02] <pixil> Probably not a discussion we should be having here, though.
[13:02] <pixil> I truly cannot find anywhere that states when the AGP version will be sold.
[13:02] <pixil> :-/
[13:12] <chains> hmm
[13:41] <Chaotic_D> uhg... my mouse cursor seems to be disabled in FireFox because of the Div
[13:42] <bizinichi> what types of household wires (wires found around the house, like a ether
[13:54] * _absolute is now known as absolute
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[13:57] <activator> hey everyone
[13:58] <activator> how do i disabled the windows hardware detection on bootup
[13:58] <activator> referring to NEW hardware
[13:58] <activator> like i have a sound card on this PC that i have still plugged into the PC
[13:58] <activator> how do i disablbe that?
[14:00] <nsfw> umm it'll keep looking for it :P You have to disable the hardware in device m
[14:00] <logiclrd> when renewing a code-signing certificate, does the serial number change? i
[14:01] * activator is now known as Activator
[14:02] <effigy> hey i just got a widescreen monitor a week ago but pictures on it look stret
[14:02] <effigy> i installed the drivers that came with it
[14:03] <nsfw> you need to set a wide screen resolution
[14:03] <nsfw> and your computer needs to support wide screen resolutions
[14:03] <effigy> when i do that the text looks really thing
[14:04] <nsfw> thing?
[14:04] <effigy> thin sorry
[14:04] <nsfw> so change your font/text size :P Heh your monitor has a native resolution, ru
[14:05] <effigy> how do i figure what that is?
[14:05] <nsfw> it'll be int he info with your monitor
[14:06] <effigy> cool yeah i just found it
[14:06] <effigy> thanks
[14:07] <nybill88> my file folders will only show iso files, how do i change it back so that
[14:13] <effigy> dang if the recommended screen size isn't in my properties does that mean my
[14:13] <nsfw> possibly :|
[14:13] <effigy> darn
[14:15] <Masurao> is there an Irc channel wherepeople are knoledgeable upon the subject of mu
[14:15] <Pope__> how do I upload a picture to wikipedia?
[14:17] <Pope__> crap you need a login
[14:27] <Pope__> could someone with a login upload a picture to wikipedia?
[14:35] <Tm218> anybody here know ftp commands? What is the command to download a whole direc
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[14:39] <Pope__> mget
[14:45] * Disconnected
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[14:45] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
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[14:45] <CHiEfE> hey guys, any fellow americans here ?
[14:49] <Pope__> yes
[14:50] <Masurao> ... what does it matter?
[14:50] <CHiEfE> i got a question i need to ask someone american
[14:51] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Q: Are the sites where one could share one's documents with a lar
[15:08] * Activator is now known as activator
[15:18] <khafra> K_Dallas: What kind of document? If you just want to share a text file, ther
[15:18] <disturb> K_Dallas: you just want a place to upload some text?
[15:18] <disturb> K_Dallas: http://pastebin.com/ ?
[15:19] <K_Dallas> oh no :) I mean to share with a larger audience
[15:19] <K_Dallas> As an example: if you are a amateur writer and want to share a few chapter
[15:20] <K_Dallas> to get soem visibility without having to advertise for that and write here
[15:20] <K_Dallas> some*
[15:21] <rhelic> any change anybody know about TomTom's new 2gb version of their USA & Canada
[15:36] <disturb> does anyone know of a free burning program that allows to you multiple dvd'
[15:36] <Sun4u> Nqkoi razbira li Bg ?
[15:37] <jackal^> Sun4u, #bulgaria
[15:37] <Sun4u> tnx
[15:37] <MrMeth> Is Piker ever here anymore?
[15:37] <phisher1> meow?
[15:38] <MrMeth> your Piker?
[15:38] <phisher1> no..
[15:38] <MrMeth> heh, didn't think so
[15:38] <phisher1> piker is not here very often
[15:38] <phisher1> [17:38] >>> idle : 30 days 2 hours 23 mins 46 secs [signon:
[15:38] <MrMeth> phisher: do you have access to UN?
[15:38] <phisher1> why?
[15:39] <MrMeth> I used to be added in #1, but I have a dif IP now
[15:43] <disturb> where is dewo he always knows a good program to use
[15:43] <phisher1> dewwbie dewwbie deww
[15:43] <MrMeth> deww is the main man
[15:46] <phisher1> disturb: might wanna look at http://www.handybackup.net/backup-to-dvd.shtm
[15:46] <phisher1> "This means that the user doesn’t have to manually split the data to rec
[15:48] <disturb> that might work i'll give it a try, thanks
[15:48] <phisher1> yup
[15:50] <Masurao> for some reason, whenever I open something using the start bar, I have to o
[15:51] <Masurao> so if I wanted to open firefox i'd have to click start>firefox then stra
[15:51] <Masurao> to get one to open
[15:51] <Masurao> any way to fix this?
[15:55] <K_Dallas> Start > Install Linux ;) but seriously, it is weird. Dos it happen for
[15:56] <Masurao> hated linux, moving on
[15:56] <Masurao> yea, it does.
[15:56] <floatsaka> i concur
[15:56] <floatsaka> wierd.
[15:56] <K_Dallas> well, have you recently installed anynew software
[15:56] <floatsaka> how about shortcuts or quicklaunch items?
[15:56] <K_Dallas> (you might want to recover to an ulterieur date)
[15:57] <Masurao> all of the above
[15:57] <Masurao> everything.
[15:57] <K_Dallas> could it be a mouse problem by any chance?
[15:57] <floatsaka> check ms knowledgebase/google?
[16:03] <Tiyuri> Hey there guys, I'm looking to upgrade my system, I looking at getting a 880
[16:03] <Tiyuri> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124927 <--
[16:04] <Tiyuri> I'm confused about ampage on the 12v lines, is it total over the two lines?
[16:05] <Tiyuri> Also I understand the 8800GTX requirse 2 PCI-E connectors, this PSU lists "
[16:05] <Tiyuri> It's unclear to me whether or not that means, it has both, or its PCI-E conn
[16:05] <Anthr4x0s> you can get a splitter... but it really wants 2 from 2 different Rails
[16:05] <Anthr4x0s> aka lines aka cables
[16:06] <Tiyuri> The way I'm reading it, it seems it has 2
[16:06] <Tiyuri> but I might be reading it wrong
[16:06] <Anthr4x0s> it has 2
[16:06] <Tiyuri> you're certain?
[16:06] <Anthr4x0s> with the molex to 6pin adapter
[16:06] <Anthr4x0s> that's what I'm reading
[16:06] <Tiyuri> The only reason I'm uncertain
[16:06] <Anthr4x0s> 4 pin Molex to 6 pin PCI-Express Adapter x1 = 1
[16:07] <Anthr4x0s> 6 pin power adapter for PCI express
[16:07] <Anthr4x0s> =2
[16:07] <Anthr4x0s> ?
[16:07] <Tiyuri> is because "4 pin Molex to 6 pin PCI-Express Adapter x1 = 1" is under "con
[16:07] <Tiyuri> whilst "6 pin power adapter for PCI express" is under features
[16:07] <Anthr4x0s> that's an extra
[16:07] <Anthr4x0s> PCI-E
[16:07] <Tiyuri> so it wouldnt be that the only PCI-E is a 4pin converted?
[16:08] <Anthr4x0s> 4 pin is the ATX_12V extra for the mobo, for extra voltage stability
[16:08] <neilcad> anyone know why my computer no longer gives me the info screen on bootup an
[16:08] <Anthr4x0s> tried safe mode?
[16:08] <Tiyuri> I assume
[16:08] <Tiyuri> the 8800GT uses 1 PCI-E right?
[16:09] <neilcad> me?
[16:09] <Anthr4x0s> Tiyuri= have you tried googling the PSU model + 8800GTX... someone has to
[16:09] <Tiyuri> Yeah I've tried, not found anything particularly interesting
[16:10] <Anthr4x0s> If the headers are both the same exact type, and both fit into the card..
[16:10] <Tiyuri> What I'm saying though, is that the card says its Nvidia SLI compatible
[16:10] <Tiyuri> and I'm assuming, if you're running a card with 1 PCI-E slot, x2
[16:10] <Tiyuri> you'd need 2 PCI-E cables
[16:11] <Anthr4x0s> yes 1 for each card?
[16:11] <Tiyuri> yeah, thats what im assuming
[16:11] <Anthr4x0s> or 4 if the card requires 2/card
[16:11] <Tiyuri> in which case it should have 2
[16:11] <Anthr4x0s> I've never heard of 2 PCI-E/card
[16:11] <Tiyuri> I'm asking you if my logic is faulty :P I don't have much experience with th
[16:11] <Tiyuri> the 8800GTX apparently requires 2, for a single card
[16:11] <z8O> Anthr4x0s even three is possible
[16:12] <Tiyuri> z8O maybe you could have a quick look at this link and tell me if you think
[16:12] <Anthr4x0s> Then you'll need a total of 4 PCI-E 6-pins, IF both cards require 2 afaik
[16:12] <Tiyuri> Oh I'm not thinking about going SLI
[16:12] <Anthr4x0s> I don't own an 8800GTX! :-(
[16:12] <z8O> ok
[16:12] <Tiyuri> im saying the specs list it as "SLI compatible"
[16:12] <Tiyuri> and im basing the assumption that it has 2 PCI-E cables because of that
[16:12] <Tiyuri> z8O, http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124927
[16:12] <Anthr4x0s> yes
[16:13] <Anthr4x0s> 2/8800
[16:13] <z8O> Tiyuri i would need to know others things ..like how many drives you will be ru
[16:13] <Tiyuri> 1 HD, 1 DVD rom drive, 2gb Ram, http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130449 <-
[16:14] <Tiyuri> I have little experience so i'm trying to make sure everything is compatible
[16:14] <z8O> Intel Core 2 Quad
[16:16] <Anthr4x0s> Good lord that's a monster gaming box
[16:16] <z8O> Thermaltake ToughPower W0117 750W PSU
[16:16] <z8O> would be a good choice
[16:16] <Tiyuri> I'm running out of money :P lol
[16:16] <z8O> www.ebuyer.com/product/133813
[16:17] <Tiyuri> is spending the extra on the PSU worth it ?
[16:17] <z8O> it is
[16:17] <Anthr4x0s> eh depends
[16:17] <Tiyuri> is there anything "wrong" with the one ive chosen already?
[16:18] <z8O> which is?
[16:18] <Tiyuri> [00:13] <Tiyuri> z8O, http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124927
[16:18] <Tiyuri> this one
[16:18] <Anthr4x0s> You should really check out a power wattage calculator, get a rough estim
[16:18] <Anthr4x0s> 750W is very overkill
[16:18] <Tiyuri> yeah I had a look at power usage over it all
[16:18] <Tiyuri> its actually pretty low
[16:18] <Tiyuri> and also I read up on it, apparently a reasonably top end gaming system runs
[16:18] <Anthr4x0s> Most systems use barely 70% of what their PSU is rated for.
[16:18] <z8O> looks ok
[16:18] <Tiyuri> its just a case of making sure theres enough amp on the rails I guess
[16:19] <z8O> go for that if you like
[16:19] <Anthr4x0s> Amperage per rail is more concerning to me
[16:19] <Tiyuri> z8O, the worry I had with it is, I can't discern whether or not it has 2 PCI
[16:19] <z8O> try to find a review first if possible
[16:19] <Tiyuri> there are customer reviews
[16:19] <Tiyuri> which are actually pretty decent on that site
[16:19] <Anthr4x0s> check out www.jonnyguru.com
[16:20] <Anthr4x0s> Nothing but realistic PSU reviews... none of the major website hype and b
[16:20] <z8O> 4 pin Molex to 6 pin PCI-Express Adapter x1
[16:20] <Tiyuri> yeah, this is what i was discussing with Anthr4x0s
[16:20] <Tiyuri> that is listed under connectors, whilst the "PCI-E x1" is listed under featu
[16:20] <Tiyuri> so it's not entirely clear to me if it's just listing the 1 PCI-E connector
[16:20] <Anthr4x0s> Oh not this again
[16:20] <Tiyuri> lol :P
[16:20] <phisher1> ehh
[16:21] <Anthr4x0s> check it out... plug it in, if you see smoke or smell burning = guess not
[16:21] <Anthr4x0s> :-p
[16:21] <phisher1> a 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e adapter is just that.. an adapater
[16:21] <Anthr4x0s> j/k
[16:21] <Tiyuri> phisher1, so you're saying that its only got 1?
[16:22] <phisher1> x1
[16:22] <Anthr4x0s> omg!
[16:22] <phisher1> I would think that would be what it means..
[16:22] <Tiyuri> Ok basically im wanting to use a 8800GTX on it, which requires two PCI-E pow
[16:22] <phisher1> it converts 1 normal 4 pin molex to a 6 pin pci-e power adapter for a vide
[16:22] <Tiyuri> can I do that? :P
[16:22] <Bucketman> Tiyuri: call them and ask if the PCI-E can be piggybacked. If you need 2.
[16:22] <phisher1> then you'd need a seperate adapater
[16:22] <phisher1> adapter*
[16:22] <phisher1> the 8800gtx will most likely come with 2
[16:23] <phisher1> mine did
[16:23] <Tiyuri> I see
[16:23] <Tiyuri> so it should be fine?
[16:23] <Anthr4x0s> yes
[16:23] <Tiyuri> also notice how it says "Nvidia SLI compatible"
[16:23] <phisher1> course my psu had 4 6 pin pci-e's already =)
[16:23] * Anthr4x0s hangs Tiyuri with a 6pin PCI-E adapter
[16:23] <Tiyuri> sorry Anthr4x0s, I just want to be certain
[16:23] <Anthr4x0s> np I was joking
[16:24] <phisher1> Tiyuri: just look at the details for your video card
[16:24] <phisher1> make sure it comes with an adapter..
[16:24] <phisher1> it most likely does as psu's are not commonly coming with 6pin pci-e power
[16:25] <phisher1> afaik anyway
[16:25] <Tiyuri> hm I was hoping to get the card OEM
[16:26] <phisher1> then goto your local comp shop and buy one
[16:27] <z8O> i like the Gigabyte ODIN Pro psu's with voltage control over usb
[16:27] <z8O> uber psu
[16:28] <Tiyuri> maybe i should just buy the GPU boxed then
[16:28] <Tiyuri> ugh another £30 :(
[16:29] <z8O> maybe you are spending too much on video card
[16:29] <Tiyuri> maybe!
[16:29] <z8O> i must have stability as priority
[16:31] <Tiyuri> is there anything on my list that you look at and think.. bad decision?
[16:31] <phisher1> i didn't look at your list
[16:31] <Tiyuri> [00:14] <Tiyuri> 1 HD, 1 DVD rom drive, 2gb Ram, http://www.ebuyer.c
[16:33] <phisher1> can't look right now busy
[16:33] <Tiyuri> basically, its core 2 quad, 8800GTX, 2gig ram
[16:35] <Munkee_> hey, I'm looking for a service to make phone calls from pc to usa phones..
[16:38] <bizinichi> is this memory compatible with my laptop http://gainesville.craigslist.or
[16:39] <z8O> newegg,craigslist,ebay ..why dont ppl use pricewatch anymore
[16:40] <z8O> i found a core duo bundle for 130 bucks there yesterday
[16:50] <karlp> if you're from canada can u order off amazon.com
[16:50] <blanto> when a cop pulls you over during a traffic stop and he/she gets info about y
[17:01] <z8O> Blanto shoot first answer questions later
[17:01] <Phiber0pt> spammer - [iiaxi] unbelievable! Julia Louis-Dreyfus naked
[17:01] <Ox40> Anyone here know asp.net?
[17:02] <Ox40> spammer! <iiaxi> finally Lisa Vidal naked ... at bravoporn.eu
[17:02] <Ox40> -
[17:08] <z8O> yes iiaxi was bad
[17:19] <non-sense> has anyone installed hard drives with Silicone grommets in cases
[17:19] <deww> yeah
[17:19] <deww> antec case
[17:20] <non-sense> yeah exactly
[17:20] <non-sense> anyway u can explain how i can do this
[17:20] <non-sense> i can't seem to figure it out
[17:21] <deww> slide the drive in the cage and attempt to attach the special screws
[17:22] <non-sense> hm
[17:27] <non-sense> thanks deww
[17:27] <non-sense> got it
[17:27] <non-sense> "special screws" is what helped me
[17:27] <deww> heh
[17:27] <deww> you were trying to use the standard stuff? :)
[17:27] <non-sense> yea :?
[17:28] <non-sense> -[
[17:28] <deww> :)
[17:28] <non-sense> =]
[17:28] <non-sense> this silicone is a good idea
[17:28] <non-sense> anywho, back to work ;p, thx again
[17:28] <deww> :)
[17:32] <Sun4u> hi kak e
[17:32] <Sun4u> :)
[17:36] <harold1> anyone know anything about using your hdtv as a monitor?
[17:38] <TheUni> phisher1: you around?
[17:38] <FuNGuY> can anyone help me out w/ an HD videocard problem?
[17:38] <FuNGuY> when I do full screen it only shows the standard def size in the middle w/ t
[17:40] <deww> hrm
[17:40] <deww> never tried that before
[17:41] <TheUni> deww: fyi, i got my virtual router created finally
[17:41] <TheUni> don't know if you were really interested... but i know now that it'd doable.
[17:41] <deww> TheUni: what were you missing?
[17:41] <deww> it was something to do with not getting a network connection right
[17:42] <TheUni> deww: was making it too complicated. phisher1 pointed out that the bridge wo
[17:42] <deww> host-only ?
[17:42] <TheUni> so eth0 (internet) is bridged to vmnet0, but set to a dummy static ip. vmnet
[17:43] <TheUni> nope. both bridge
[17:43] <deww> oh
[17:43] <TheUni> seems like it shouldn't work. would have to draw it out to really explain :
[17:44] <deww> i thought you were using bridged, getting an ip from your dhcp server
[17:44] * Sun4u is now known as I_Love_Ci
[17:44] <deww> although using bridge, you can do whatever you want on your guest OS
[17:44] * I_Love_Ci is now known as Sun4u{P}C
[17:45] * Sun4u{P}C is now known as Sun4u
[17:45] <TheUni> deww: cable modem comes directly into eth0, bridged to the virtual router bu
[17:45] <deww> i guess i'd need to see the diagram
[17:45] <deww> i guess that makes sense
[17:46] <TheUni> now i can hotswap routers, which was the point
[17:48] <deww> awesome
[17:48] <harold1> when i first hooked my pc up to my bravia
[17:48] <harold1> months ago and since
[17:48] <TheUni> i thought so. neat little experiment. though i don't know how the performanc
[17:48] <harold1> it would detect "sony display"
[17:49] <harold1> and id get digital output to the tv
[17:49] <harold1> now it just says "analog display"
[17:49] <harold1> and i cant get 1080..dont understand it
[17:49] <TheUni> harold1: are you in vga mode?
[17:49] <harold1> how do i check?
[17:49] <TheUni> what cables do you have hooked up? i assume you'd want dvi or hdmi
[17:49] * Sun4u is now known as Sun4u`SaD
[17:49] <harold1> vga cable
[17:49] <harold1> from laptop to tv
[17:50] <harold1> could the cable have gone bad?
[17:50] <z8O> i found the computer i want ..NEC SX-9
[17:50] <TheUni> i didn't even know that vga could detect the device. i just thought it saw a
[17:50] <harold1> when i go into the nview
[17:50] <harold1> through nvidia
[17:50] <harold1> it shows 2 displays
[17:50] <harold1> "laptop display"
[17:50] <harold1> and "analog display"
[17:51] <harold1> it used to show the "analog display" as "sony tv/display"
[17:51] <harold1> and id get digital out
[17:51] <harold1> confusing the shit out of me going to drive me nuts
[17:51] <Sun4u`SaD> info what is comand ?
[17:52] <Sun4u`SaD> Kfa e komandata za info we dea..
[17:57] <z8O> you know this is amazing but we never hear about it
[17:58] <z8O> memory bandwidth of 256GB/s.
[17:58] <z8O> 102.4 GFLOPS per single core
[17:58] <z8O> www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.php?id=8997&cid=5
[17:58] <z8O> why does intel get so much credit
[17:58] <z8O> i will never understand
[17:59] <llyodW> +ptn
[18:01] <llyodW> ***+ptn
[18:01] <deww> llyodW: hi
[18:01] <chainz> phisher1 here?
[18:02] * Matt` is now known as Mattvixen
[18:04] <b34n> Has anyone tried using a tv-tuner to view HD video? I was wondering about buyi
[18:04] <Fire_Star> i've got the hauppauge hvr-950
[18:04] <b34n> Fire_Star: is that HD?
[18:04] <Fire_Star> usb hybrid hdtv tuner
[18:04] <b34n> ahhh
[18:05] <b34n> do you use it on a monitor or laptop?
[18:05] <Fire_Star> watching ity now
[18:05] <Fire_Star> watch on llaprop disp
[18:05] <z8O> but dont use vista media center
[18:05] <b34n> ok
[18:05] <Fire_Star> nope. using xp
[18:05] <Fire_Star> it's compat with vista tho
[18:05] <b34n> I had been planning on using it with Vista Business, but can use it on XP no p
[18:06] <b34n> Fire_Star: did your laptop support HD from before, or do I need some kickass c
[18:06] <Fire_Star> my gf got one too. using vista prem
[18:06] <Fire_Star> mine's a core2duo 2.2 ghz
[18:07] <b34n> hmm....mine's a pentium m...
[18:07] <Fire_Star> mydesktop handles it well to A643400+
[18:08] <b34n> I guess it's worth a shot
[18:08] <b34n> thanks Fire_Star
[18:08] <Fire_Star> np
[18:28] <manning_> anyone been in the service? and had to deal with the VA?
[18:28] <chainz> yep
[18:28] <manning_> chainz: for c&p?
[18:28] <chainz> c&p?
[18:29] <manning_> :P was that yep to yes you had to deal with the va?
[18:29] <chainz> i'm prior service and yes, i've worked with the VA to obtain benefits
[18:30] <manning_> yea.. sorry.. thats what they call c&p now i guess. compensation and pensi
[18:30] <chainz> heh
[18:30] <chainz> well, i'm not retired
[18:30] <manning_> anyway, i got a hearing test tomorrow.. but i'm trying to fight a claim fo
[18:30] <chainz> all i've gotten from them is the GI Bill and a voucher to buy a house with n
[18:31] <manning_> did you end up getting your comp?
[18:31] <chainz> manning_, you need to have proof you had problems before you got out
[18:31] <chainz> in your medical records
[18:31] <chainz> what do you mean by compensation?
[18:31] <chainz> what compensation was/is owed to me?
[18:31] <manning_> va benefits
[18:31] <manning_> disability rating
[18:32] <chainz> yes, i've gotten my gi bill
[18:32] <chainz> and my voucher
[18:32] <chainz> i'm not disabled
[18:32] <chainz> so i don't get any disability pay
[18:32] <manning_> oh.. i'm in the process of a disability claim
[18:32] <chainz> yah, big difference
[18:32] <chainz> i'm not a broke dick :)
[18:32] <manning_> haha
[18:32] <chainz> and i was airborne
[18:32] <manning_> nice. i was with 6th marines
[18:33] <blue^moon> good luck with that, someone did a news thing about getting dis benefits
[18:33] <blue^moon> or not getting I should say
[18:33] <manning_> heh yea, it's rough
[18:33] <manning_> it's pretty much a court case
[18:33] <chainz> well
[18:33] <chainz> you need to have proof in your medical records for one
[18:33] <manning_> luckily the county va director is on top of his game so i got some help.
[18:33] <chainz> i complained about all kinds of aches on my last physical
[18:33] <chainz> before i got out
[18:33] <chainz> just so it was documented
[18:34] <chainz> so if i get any kind of injuries later like carpal tunnel or back or knee is
[18:34] <chainz> i might get lucky
[18:34] <chainz> heh
[18:35] <manning_> yea.. i got out with about 50% hearing loss, a herniated disc in my back,
[18:36] <manning_> but it was all worth it man. i loved my time in
[18:36] <manning_> i just refuse to pay for the treatment out of my own pocket and its a sham
[18:36] <chainz> manning_, i hear ya on that
[18:36] <chainz> gotta jump through hoops for anything these days
[18:36] <chainz> gets worse as you get older too
[18:37] <chainz> and i have a bad temper when it comes to that stuff
[18:37] <blue^moon> that never helps
[18:37] <chainz> nope
[18:37] <chainz> but
[18:37] <manning_> haha
[18:37] <manning_> how long have you been out
[18:37] <chainz> in customer service environments, i have gotten some compensation
[18:37] <chainz> such as discounts on the service etc
[18:37] <chainz> manning_, my ETS was jan 2003
[18:38] <manning_> you get any of oef?
[18:38] <chainz> whats that?
[18:38] <manning_> afghanistan
[18:38] <chainz> nah, never went overseas
[18:38] <manning_> whaaaaaat?
[18:38] <manning_> how'd you manage that?
[18:38] <chainz> :)
[18:39] <phisher1> chainz: ya
[18:39] <chainz> sometime during my last 6 months, my platoon sgt asked me if i would extend
[18:39] <chainz> phisher1, i'm in the middle of following your instructions.... lots of waiti
[18:39] <phisher1> what part ?
[18:40] <chainz> make buildworld
[18:40] <chainz> is what i'm waiting on now
[18:40] <phisher1> that'll be a while. =)
[18:40] <chainz> heh
[18:40] <chainz> i might be going out soon
[18:40] <manning_> chainz you were airborne infantry i hope, right?
[18:40] <manning_> not like.. airborne clerk
[18:40] <manning_> or some shit
[18:40] <chainz> manning_, nah, airborne air defense
[18:40] <chainz> manning_, so i asked my platoon sgt, if it was guaranteed i'd be out in 6 mo
[18:41] <chainz> he said no, so i said no
[18:41] <chainz> 2 weeks after i ETS'd, my squad left for afghanistan and they put a stoploss
[18:41] <manning_> that's bs. i extended for my last deployment and signed a specific ammount
[18:41] <chainz> if i hadn't saved up 45 days of terminal leave, i would've been stuck in for
[18:41] <chainz> nah man, stoplosses can screw you
[18:41] <chainz> its like the fine print in the contract :)
[18:42] <chainz> anyways, i was 3-4 air defense artillery regiment
[18:42] <manning_> hah ayea stoploss yea. i extended voluntarily just to do another pump with
[18:42] <chainz> heh
[18:42] <chainz> i decided to give the civilian world another chance
[18:43] <manning_> people say war is hell, and it is, but i wouldn't give anything in place o
[18:43] <chainz> yah, some things you do in the military you can't do anywhere else
[18:44] <manning_> hell yea :) i miss it some times. especially when i drink.. heh
[18:44] <manning_> sigh... anyway..
[18:45] <chainz> i know what you mean
[18:45] <chainz> i miss getting paid to jump out of airplanes
[18:47] <manning_> i miss the explosions
[18:47] <manning_> and the firefights
[18:47] <chainz> i'm all set with fire fights
[18:47] <chainz> explosions i got tired of
[18:48] <MrRabbit> I bought this HD for my laptop and it's not recognized and makes these mut
[18:48] <chainz> just in one day of going to the demolition range and playing with TNT and c4
[18:48] <MrRabbit> could this be the connection?
[18:48] <manning_> oh well controlled explosions are boring
[18:48] <MrRabbit> I have no other drive/computer to test
[18:48] <manning_> explosions that are aimed at you are a rush :)
[18:48] <chainz> so is jumping out of an airplane 800 ft above the ground
[18:49] <manning_> yea, never got to go to jump school.
[18:49] <chainz> out of my 3 years in, my favorite time was those 3 weeks at jump school
[18:49] <manning_> marine corps reservers that for the sf
[18:49] <manning_> reserves
[18:51] <chainz> one good thing about the army, you get more schools than any other branch
[18:51] <manning_> money :)
[18:51] <chainz> strength in numbers :)
[18:51] <manning_> marine corps fucking blows when it comes to troop welfare. they can't affo
[18:51] <MrRabbit> is ultra ATA the same thing as PATA?
[18:51] * Fire-Star is now known as Star_Fire
[18:53] <chainz> phisher1, have you done this before?
[18:54] <phisher1> chainz: the info I gave you ?
[18:54] <phisher1> heh.. ya man
[18:54] <phisher1> lots of times
[18:54] <chainz> ok
[18:54] <chainz> just wondering
[18:54] <phisher1> everything I told you was from memory
[18:54] <chainz> so if all goes well
[18:54] <chainz> when i do a top or free
[18:54] <chainz> i should see all 6gb of ram?
[18:54] <chainz> as opposed to 4?
[18:54] <phisher1> as far as PAE support
[18:54] <phisher1> i've never done that
[18:54] <chainz> ah, that's what i meant
[18:55] <phisher1> i gave you the option to add to your kernel config
[18:55] <chainz> i'm just wondering if you can see the difference
[18:55] <phisher1> and instructions on checking out the newest release of 6.3 and recompiling
[18:55] <phisher1> you should see the extra ram. yes
[18:55] <phisher1> as long as you don't screw up ;)
[18:56] <chainz> i won't screw up
[18:56] <chainz> i just hope your instructions are accurate
[18:56] <chainz> there was one line i had a question about
[18:57] <chainz> you refer to a previous line but say something different
[18:57] <chainz> n/m
[18:57] <chainz> i see it now
[18:57] <phisher1> all the information I gave you is available on the internet
[19:01] <phisher1> im out
[19:01] <chainz> later
[19:06] <K_Dallas> Q: Is it me or in the past few days gmail has been acting weird? Sometimes
[19:31] <stas> let's say I have a pdf file open in adobe acrobat or whatever
[19:31] <stas> but the acrobat session is like going through an API in another program
[19:31] <stas> is there a way for me to dump the pdf document from memory into a file?
[19:33] <Star_Fire> stas: no way to save?
[19:33] <stas> no
[19:34] <stas> imagine that this is like an MCAT preparation program that has an acrobat sess
[19:34] <stas> but you can't do anything
[19:34] <stas> and you wanna dump the acrobat file from memory into a file
[19:46] * Ox40 is now known as Ox40Zzz
[19:50] <darkone> #helpchat
[19:52] <iarle> what application is best for anonymous filesharing (torrents) and do they rea
[19:56] <deww> proxies, yes and no
[19:57] <maherarar> mutorrent is pretty rockin'. It works to get files onto your computer.
[19:58] <MrMeth> deww my main man... can I pm u?
[19:58] <MrMeth> :)
[20:00] <deww> sup
[20:01] <MrMeth> Jus had a Q. I used to be added to UN in #1. But since my IP changed I can't
[20:01] <deww> orly
[20:02] <MrMeth> orly?
[20:02] <deww> who gave you that idea?
[20:02] <MrMeth> phisher1
[20:02] <moebeman> hi anyone
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