Session Start: Thu Jan 24 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:02] <Raindm> how much member (ram) can winodows xp pro 32bit can handle?
[00:02] <Raindm> is therre a problem with 4gb?
[00:03] <Star_Fire> 32bit limit is 3GB
[00:04] <Winner> wtf
[00:04] <Winner> 3GB?
[00:06] <Winner> wow, I was under the impression was alot more, it's actually 4gb
[00:06] <Winner> but you won't get the whole 4, get around 3'ish like Star_Fire said
[00:06] <blc> Raindm: depending on the motherboard, 3,2 to 3,6 GB
[00:07] <blc> the rest is allocated for PCI adressing
[00:07] <Winner> blc he said windows xp though
[00:07] <Winner> 32bit edition
[00:07] <Raindm> i am about to buy a mother board call FROSTBURG DG33FBC... the seller told m
[00:08] <blc> any 32 bit edition has those limits
[00:08] <blc> wether it be xp, vista, bsd or linux
[00:08] <Raindm> what are the limits than?
[00:08] <Winner> there are many motherboards that support over 4 gigabytes of ram but that is
[00:08] <Star_Fire> vista 32bit is limited also
[00:08] <Winner> quote I found
[00:08] <blc> it is 4 GB, but as i said, the rest is allocated for PCI adressing, and since t
[00:09] <Winner> alright
[00:09] <blc> Winner: only 64 bit
[00:10] <Winner> 64bit = max 128gigs
[00:10] <Winner> lol damn
[00:10] <Winner> quite a bit
[00:10] <Star_Fire> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx
[00:10] <Raindm> should i get vista instead of windows xp ?
[00:10] <Winner> Raindm I don't recommend you do
[00:10] <Winner> Just get a 64bit processor if you want more ram
[00:10] <Winner> and get win xp 64bit
[00:10] <Raindm> i will have 64bit.. quad core is 64bit, right?
[00:11] <Star_Fire> with any 64 bit OS, you'll have probs finding drivers for your devices
[00:11] <Winner> and the motherboard has to support it as others mentioned, raindm not necess
[00:11] <blc> Winner: i bet users said the same when they went from 16 to 32 bit
[00:11] <Winner> it should tell you in the specs if it's 64bit
[00:11] <blc> Raindm: any new processor of today supports 64 bit
[00:11] <Star_Fire> all modern cpu's are 64
[00:11] <Raindm> so i should get windows xp pro 64bit?
[00:11] <blc> that depends entirely on what you want to use it for
[00:12] <Raindm> only for programming..visual studio and some music
[00:12] <Raindm> some graphics, photoshop
[00:13] <Star_Fire> Rain: do you really need 4GB ram?
[00:13] <Winner> my computer has 2 gigs of ram and that's plenty
[00:13] <Winner> soooooars :D
[00:13] <Star_Fire> I've got 2GB also and I do video editing
[00:14] <Winner> my main system bottleneck is actually my cpu
[00:14] <Star_Fire> along with photoshop
[00:14] <Winner> so yeah Rain i'd focus on getting a better cpu, or a faster end harddrive li
[00:15] <blc> Raindm: you don't really need more than 4GB for that yet.. i wouldn't recommend
[00:15] <blc> Winner: my 500 GB samsungs beat the raptor hands down as a OS drive.. ;)
[00:15] <Winner> lol in what blc?
[00:15] <Winner> not speed I bet :D
[00:15] <Raindm> blc: i see.. that is a delema...than..
[00:15] <blc> actually, yes..
[00:16] <Raindm> if i get 64bit i might incounter issues with drivers
[00:16] <Winner> raptor is ridiculous
[00:16] <Winner> blc I don't believe you :P
[00:16] <blc> it's faster, more quiet, and bigger..
[00:16] <blc> Winner: i went from xp on a raptor to vista on a samsung and noticed a huge spe
[00:16] <Star_Fire> Rain: progamming, music, photoshop don't need 4GB ram or the fastest CPU
[00:17] <Winner> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136011 won 3 times
[00:18] <Winner> if you're getting a quad core you're fine Rain
[00:18] <Winner> actually any core 2 dual cores would be good too as they're crazy fast
[00:18] <Raindm> Star_Fire: its now the issue. imight use it later has a mail server.. the qu
[00:18] <digidog> apps? yes
[00:18] <Winner> yes 32bit apps are supported
[00:18] <digidog> drivers? no
[00:19] <Winner> only issue is the drivers like he said
[00:19] <Raindm> drivers for hardware or also dlls?
[00:19] <Raindm> for software
[00:19] <digidog> hardware drivers
[00:20] <digidog> its probably a bit early to be exclusivly 64 bit on a main system
[00:20] <digidog> secondary test or sepcfici app system, fine
[00:20] <digidog> specific
[00:20] <Winner> 64bit has vista's driver signing bs, with patchguard that's probably why alo
[00:21] <Winner> ported their drivers over
[00:21] <digidog> vista has enough problems with the 32 bit version
[00:21] <Star_Fire> rain: when you decide to turn that box into a mail server, install linux
[00:21] <Winner> or freebsd, which many many web hosts and alike use
[00:21] <Winner> since unix is very nice for hosting
[00:21] <Hastor> yeah i got vista that included both 32 and 64 bit versions (one key), waitin
[00:22] <Hastor> im using 32 bit now
[00:22] <Hastor> well not RIGHT now but on that machine
[00:22] <Raindm> i see
[00:22] <Star_Fire> retail vista comes with both 32 and 64 bits version on the DVD
[00:22] <Raindm> i guess i'll stay with win xp 32 until vista gets better....
[00:22] <Raindm> and more support
[00:22] <digidog> nota bad idea
[00:22] <Hastor> Star_Fire: actually its 2 dvds, or mine was anyways, ultimate
[00:23] <Hastor> one for each
[00:23] <blc> if you are thinking about upgrading with a quad core, it's a bad idea..
[00:23] <Winner> xp sp3 rc is out, when final verison comes out
[00:23] <Winner> gonna be nice
[00:23] <blc> xp's scheduler does NOT work nice with quad cores.. vista 32 bit however does
[00:23] <digidog> thatll be the last
[00:23] <Winner> vista is just trash, cnet and alot of big companies agree
[00:23] <digidog> really blc? on xp only right?
[00:23] <Hastor> i had vista sp1 rc installed, didnt make much diff, just gonna wiat for fina
[00:23] <digidog> windows 2003 seems to work ok
[00:23] <Hastor> well big companies are always right
[00:23] <blc> digidog: 2003 server is an earlier vista kernel
[00:23] <Raindm> there is windows 2008
[00:23] <blc> digidog: so yes, xp only
[00:24] <Star_Fire> many PC builders like DELL stopped bundling XP with their computers, but
[00:24] <Hastor> i keep an xp machine ($400 gateway refurb) for most things, and my gaming ma
[00:24] <digidog> i have a quad opteron (actually 16 way) sql server on windows 2003 that run
[00:24] <digidog> 64 bit
[00:25] <Winner> xp been out 6+ years, it's stable and reliable, vista was apparently written
[00:26] <thomass> How do you burn a .uif file? I downloaded a .torrent of windows xp pro and
[00:26] <Winner> lol thomass
[00:26] <digidog> wrong channel
[00:26] <Star_Fire> thomass: no illegal help
[00:27] <Ghostwolf> hmmm
[00:27] <thomass> it`s just how to burn a file
[00:27] <Raindm> the future will be that when u open ur computer it will open only Internet E
[00:27] <digidog> wrong channel
[00:27] <Ghostwolf> thomass: no actions supporting illegal activities
[00:27] <Winner> Raindm not for another 7 years I believe, congress bushed that one bill back
[00:27] <thomass> lol nabbs
[00:28] <Ghostwolf> anyways
[00:28] <Ghostwolf> idiots aside
[00:28] <Raindm> Winner: the technology is not ready yet..
[00:28] <Ghostwolf> I wonder what microshit's plans for the xp license are going to be in the
[00:28] <Raindm> and too many secuirty holes
[00:28] <Ghostwolf> I hear production stops soon, support the end of this year
[00:28] <digidog> well they need to do that
[00:28] <Ghostwolf> & sp3 offical introduces running it as a 30 day demo
[00:28] <Winner> they're not legally allowed to do that is what i'm saying
[00:29] <digidog> it forces the vista development team to get a move on to fix shit
[00:29] <Ghostwolf> so I wonder if torrenting it will become legal
[00:29] <Raindm> sp3 for windows xp?
[00:29] <Raindm> jesus..
[00:29] <Ghostwolf> Raindm: nice rock you have there :-p
[00:30] <Raindm> haha
[00:30] <Raindm> well, i usually get updates with automtic updates..
[00:30] <Ghostwolf> oh
[00:30] <Raindm> should it be released soon?
[00:30] <digidog> yes
[00:30] <Ghostwolf> then you'll like the link I passed earlier
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> the feb. auto-updates will download ie7 for you apperently
[00:31] <Re|ent|es> I am new here. I did a list where do I got for shoutcast help?
[00:31] <digidog> probably a good idea
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> eh
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> there's no point to ie7
[00:31] <blc> Re|ent|es: what kind of shoutcast help?
[00:31] <Raindm> damn, i need to pay 150$ for a software that was released 7 years ago.. (win
[00:31] <digidog> sure there is
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> they steal some firefox ideas
[00:31] <Re|ent|es> NSV setup
[00:31] <digidog> so?
[00:31] <Raindm> or 100$ ..whatever it was
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> bloat a bit
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> & that's about it
[00:32] <digidog> not sure what that has to do with the point of moving people to ie7
[00:32] <blc> Re|ent|es: you mean installing a shoutcast server?
[00:32] <Ghostwolf> there's no reason to force them to ie7
[00:32] <Ghostwolf> since xp support is ending this year
[00:32] <Re|ent|es> No, I dont know how to stream video. I have a server up but I cant seem t
[00:32] <Ghostwolf> they just want to try & force ppl off of firefox
[00:32] <digidog> so, by that methodolgy we should keep the 90% of non power users on an old
[00:32] <Re|ent|es> Xp sp1 is ending.
[00:32] <blc> Re|ent|es: i didn't know shoutcast supported videostreaming.. guess i'm getting
[00:32] <Re|ent|es> THey will support XP sp3.
[00:33] <Ghostwolf> cause all the idiot users will go "ooo tabs"
[00:33] <Ghostwolf> Re|ent|es: no
[00:33] <Ghostwolf> all xp support ends dec.2008
[00:33] <digidog> thats a myopic outlook
[00:33] <Re|ent|es> Nope.
[00:33] <Re|ent|es> I called and asked.
[00:33] <Ghostwolf> uh-huh
[00:33] <Re|ent|es> Call your self, dont take my word for it.
[00:34] <Raindm> there is a version called: win xp black label.. heard of it??
[00:34] <Re|ent|es> any /b/rothers here?
[00:35] <digidog> support and license availability are different beasts
[00:35] <digidog> unlikely for support to end for a while
[00:35] <blc> Raindm: black edition is a -no-talk- version for in here.. it's brimfull of war
[00:35] <Raindm> oh
[00:36] <Raindm> i heard its more stable. or its bullshit
[00:36] <blc> more bloated from what i've heard..
[00:36] <Winner> hege relentles
[00:36] <Winner> heh
[00:36] <Winner> <-right here :D
[00:36] <Re|ent|es> soup /b/ro
[00:36] <Raindm> bloated?
[00:36] <blc> ..which is kinda impressive considering the geeks that normally have the clue t
[00:37] <blc> Raindm: it makes XP look like Vista
[00:37] <blc> ..and mac osx at the same time
[00:37] <Raindm> is it more stable?
[00:37] <digidog> no
[00:37] <Re|ent|es> less stable?
[00:37] <digidog> think for a second
[00:37] <blc> that i can't answer as i haven't tried it, only seen it
[00:37] <Re|ent|es> k done
[00:37] <Re|ent|es> less stable?
[00:37] <Winner> lol not much man :D
[00:38] <Re|ent|es> how about the sc/i/entologist. suck eh?
[00:38] <digidog> you get an unsupported OS and wonder if its more stable?
[00:39] <Raindm> still it is based on windows xp.. unless they did some core changes..
[00:39] <blc> how about stop using the /x everywhere, it looks even less l33t than l33t..
[00:39] <Ghostwolf> huh
[00:39] <Ghostwolf> well I'll be damned
[00:39] <digidog> pick your battles and solve where relevant
[00:39] <winzor> my abit IS7 mobo just died, i think its a pentium 4/HT, anybody know of a de
[00:39] <digidog> if you dont like vista, don't run it
[00:39] <Ghostwolf> the lifecycle does say they'll support windows service pack 3 for 24 mont
[00:40] <Re|ent|es> blc: Lulz
[00:40] <Hastor> oh is that some new crap, i thought his /x was some code from a weird irc pr
[00:40] <Ghostwolf> no specifc info on the previous statement of ending xp support on dec.200
[00:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:40] <digidog> xp support does not end on dec 2008
[00:40] <digidog> there's specific info
[00:41] <Re|ent|es> I knew I was right :S
[00:41] <blc> Hastor: it's a lame attempt at copying text like the one posted about the anon
[00:41] <Re|ent|es> rofl
[00:42] <Hastor> hmm i dunno about this attack but i dont like scientology, but i hate weird
[00:42] <Re|ent|es> Actually its a way to find thoes in the anon group that took down the sic
[00:42] <Re|ent|es> Its not a text fad
[00:42] <Re|ent|es> I just explained.
[00:42] <Ghostwolf> sounds like 4chan crap to me
[00:42] <blc> it's still a text fad..
[00:42] <blc> and looks lame
[00:42] <Ghostwolf> look at me I can type /x/!
[00:42] <Re|ent|es> 4chan is fail
[00:42] <Hastor> yeah lame whatever it is
[00:42] <digidog> i need to go to bed soon
[00:42] <Ghostwolf> stfu Re|ent|es
[00:43] <Re|ent|es> wut
[00:43] <Re|ent|es> We arent raiding anymore
[00:43] <Re|ent|es> THere are no rules 1&2
[00:44] <Ghostwolf> awww... look
[00:44] <Ghostwolf> a refresh of the vista sp1 rc
[00:46] <Re|ent|es> Vista is actually kinda nice
[00:47] <Re|ent|es> Idiots just dont know how to configure it.
[00:47] <digidog> k
[00:47] <Re|ent|es> THere all BAWWW that it doesnt look the same.
[00:47] <digidog> so when people search for something in the explorer search window on a netw
[00:48] <Re|ent|es> YEah
[00:48] <Re|ent|es> index it
[00:48] <Re|ent|es> THen search
[00:48] <digidog> what if i want to search NON indexed shit?
[00:49] <digidog> or if want my spooler service to be stable regardless of my printer drivers
[00:49] <Re|ent|es> disturb, MOst of the drives by default are set to be indexed unless the u
[00:49] <digidog> network
[00:49] <digidog> not local
[00:49] <digidog> you cant index network drives in vista without an add-on
[00:50] <digidog> like that somehow makes sense
[00:50] <Re|ent|es> Make perfect sense.
[00:50] <digidog> of course, because the millions of people in a corp environment who have al
[00:50] <Re|ent|es> This reminds me of the great 2000>XP arguments.
[00:50] <digidog> im just saying
[00:51] <Re|ent|es> New every "just says" Xp > vista
[00:51] <digidog> never said that
[00:51] <Re|ent|es> orly?
[00:51] <digidog> 'oh really'
[00:51] <Re|ent|es> yarly.
[00:51] <winzor> vista game benchies prove xp is better, for now
[00:52] <Re|ent|es> winzor: That was the same thing said by alot of people for 200 when xp ca
[00:52] <digidog> until i see real answers for the corporate customer, i refuse to believe ev
[00:52] <digidog> no
[00:52] <Re|ent|es> Then XP imporved, Looked better and then people began to conform.
[00:52] <digidog> xp was a build up from 2000, vista is a build up from scratch
[00:52] <winzor> so? OS improves with patches, since when was there ever an OS that never nee
[00:52] <Re|ent|es> digidog, Have you even used or bought Vista?
[00:52] <digidog> um, no
[00:53] <digidog> i have no idea what you are talking about
[00:53] <Re|ent|es> THen stfu saying anything about it til you use it.
[00:53] <digidog> im just making this stuff up
[00:53] <Re|ent|es> No
[00:53] <Re|ent|es> YOu going off what others say
[00:53] <digidog> im sure you believe that
[00:53] <digidog> but its not true
[00:54] <Re|ent|es> Well if you havent used it then whatis your bases?
[00:54] <digidog> 5% of our users are on Vista out of 2200 users
[00:54] <digidog> thats my basis
[00:54] <Re|ent|es> But You your self havent used it.
[00:54] <digidog> i was being sarcastic
[00:54] <digidog> i would have assumed by my observations you would have gotten that
[00:54] <Re|ent|es> Lulz, E sarcasm
[00:56] <Re|ent|es> What I am gathering, YOu havent set down and looked at anything about vis
[00:56] <digidog> which makes sense
[00:56] <Re|ent|es> but your argument doesnt.
[00:56] <Re|ent|es> " I HAVENT USED IT BUT IT SUCKS LOL"
[00:56] <digidog> you never offered any solutions to my issues with vista
[00:56] <digidog> i use Vista on 2 of 3 computers at work
[00:57] <Winner> unwise
[00:57] <digidog> and like i said we have 2 departments piloting vista
[00:57] <Re|ent|es> But you dont have admin access
[00:57] <digidog> im not just making stuff up
[00:57] <Re|ent|es> Sounds like you are.
[00:57] <digidog> really? as the IT director of my company, you would think i would
[00:57] <Re|ent|es> Yes
[00:57] <digidog> ill have to talk to someone about that
[00:58] <digidog> "hey, give me admin access so i can index network drives without installing
[00:58] <digidog> ill work on that
[00:59] <Sixcaps-> didnt know new season of 'the wire' started
[01:00] <digidog> anyone want to op UN?
[01:00] <blc> i was just about to
[01:00] <digidog> :)
[01:02] <digidog> i better go to bed, work comes early
[01:06] <xplorer> oups
[01:07] <xplorer> what is the services available on efnet ?
[01:07] <xplorer> channel bots
[01:07] <xplorer> chanserv nickserv ?
[01:07] <Winner> nope
[01:07] <xplorer> i never came here
[01:07] <Winner> no services, just abusive operators and script kiddies
[01:08] <xplorer> ok and is chanfix available to everybody ?
[01:08] <Re|ent|es> ^
[01:08] <xplorer> to solve reop problems. ?
[01:08] <Winner> xplorer only if you have admin in a channel awhile
[01:08] <Winner> even then theres no guarentee's
[01:08] <xplorer> ok.
[01:08] <Star_Fire> ex: there's some restrictions for chanfix
[01:08] <Re|ent|es> Just get an eggdrop
[01:08] <Re|ent|es> and make sure you dont ping at the sam etime
[01:09] <xplorer> i sell eggdrops thats actyally the point, i am making a website with some o
[01:09] <Re|ent|es> THere are TCL's out there that can make the eggdrop run like anope servic
[01:09] <xplorer> i know this :)
[01:10] <Re|ent|es> LOL, Why would you want a no services kinda small network to be published
[01:10] <xplorer> actually im working on the website so please don't take all info in conside
[01:10] * Fire_Star is now known as Star_Fire
[01:11] <xplorer> Re|ent|es i want to "" Save-irc "" if you don't get the point ...
[01:11] <xplorer> this is why i want to publish it
[01:11] <xplorer> and many other
[01:11] <Re|ent|es> WHy does IRC need saving?
[01:11] <Re|ent|es> billions of people still use it.
[01:11] <xplorer> cauz of lame abusers who are flooding hacking spamming,
[01:12] <xplorer> i know this
[01:12] <RBL> chanfix: EFNet's CHANFIX Service: http://www.irchelp.org/chanfix -Star-Fire (3)
[01:12] <xplorer> well thnx to answer t my questions
[01:12] <xplorer> have a great day
[01:12] <Re|ent|es> kbai
[01:12] * Re|ent|es wishes he knew about NSV
[01:14] <Re|ent|es> lOl JUSt FaggIng Up the pLaCe loL
[01:14] <Re|ent|es> :3
[01:14] <Re|ent|es> <3 color codes
[01:15] <blc> NEVER do that again in her
[01:15] <blc> here
[01:17] <Re|ent|es> ;_;
[01:22] * Star_Fire is now known as Fire_Star
[01:22] * Star-Fire is now known as Star_Fire
[01:22] <_oea> lulz?
[01:23] <Re|ent|es> o hay thar /b/rother
[01:23] <_oea> o boi
[01:23] <_oea> brb!
[01:23] <Re|ent|es> ;_;
[01:28] <Torob> in winamp when i rate songs like 4 stars or 5 stars, is there a way for it to
[01:31] <Re|ent|es> Click the top of the row, says Raiting, It should then list it in lowest
[01:31] <Re|ent|es> the click it again to list it in highest to lowest.
[01:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:54] <Torob> thnkx
[01:54] <Torob> found another way heh
[02:02] <f50> Anyone know where i can download the latest list of mirc channels?
[02:02] <Re|ent|es> /list?
[02:02] <Re|ent|es> /list mirc
[02:02] <f50> Sorry i mean servers
[02:02] <f50> Latest mirc servers
[02:03] <Re|ent|es> WHat do you mean mirc servers?
[02:04] <Re|ent|es> kk
[02:15] <bastid> Hey got a wierd question.. If someone has 8 years left until they can retire
[02:15] <bastid> if that makes any sense :p
[02:16] <Winner> 100% of what
[02:16] <DJ_HaMsTa> any one have a stram reaper handy ?
[02:17] <DJ_HaMsTa> stream*
[02:17] <DJ_HaMsTa> ripper*
[02:17] <Winner> audicity is nice for sound
[02:17] <DJ_HaMsTa> rip streams /
[02:18] <bastid> 100% of pension
[02:18] <bastid> not a discounted percentage
[02:18] <bastid> if you retire early they will penalize you for doing so and you wont recieve
[02:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> which company ?
[02:19] <bastid> works for the state
[02:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> what u do?
[02:20] <bastid> if they were to pay up the remainder of thier time, lets say $10,000 could t
[02:27] * Nilisco_ is now known as Nilisco
[02:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:57] <Zeddeeeh> hi, i have a problem, how do i stream live the image transmitted from my I
[02:57] <Zeddeeeh> http://www.trendnet.com/en/products/TV-IP300.htm , this is the product, an
[02:58] <Zeddeeeh> "This Internet Camera Server has MPEG4 quality streaming video, automatic
[02:58] <Zeddeeeh> sounds like it should work perfectly
[03:01] <n00b140> is the internet breaking?
[03:03] <iTiLGD> newbie here :)
[03:04] <n00b140> www.secondlife.com www.reddit.com and www.duggmirror.com are all down?
[03:04] <n00b140> and I can't connect to my server
[03:05] <n00b140> is it the terrorists
[03:06] <n00b140> please confirm
[03:07] <n00b140> is it the rapture
[03:12] * tch0ut_ is now known as tch0ut
[03:37] <undrgrndr> how do you spell the word ' ceratishily ' as in, he was spied on sera
[03:39] * tch0ut_ is now known as tch0ut
[03:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:40] <intx> UN
[03:41] <intx> undrgrndr: I have no idea what you're asking.. could you give another example?
[03:46] * tch0ut_ is now known as tch0ut
[03:48] <bodyhack> want bodyhack for pain away ?
[03:59] <Zeddeeeh> who knows anything about online streaming from IP - cameras?
[04:01] <undrgrndr> intx: the father spied on his son seratishisly
[04:09] <Torob> in WMP the shuffle function repeats.. is there a option so it marks what song
[04:27] <thomass> I cannot find my USB driver to my motherboard ASUS P5N-E SLI. Cannot find i
[04:37] <belter> it's there on the cd or included in the chipset driver
[04:37] <belter> usb 2.0
[04:37] <thomass> THNX
[04:37] <undrgrndr> how do you spell the word ' ceratishily ' as in, he was spied on sera
[04:37] <thomass> ops
[04:37] <undrgrndr> intx: the father spied on his son seratishisly
[04:38] <belter> drop the word into google
[04:38] <belter> free spelcheck
[04:38] <nsfw> lol oh woot finally :P
[04:38] <nsfw> any smart accounting guru's arround?
[04:38] <belter> hire an accountant
[04:38] <nsfw> belter: Now that wasn't my question ;)
[04:39] <belter> and stop asking for financial or medical advice from strangers on-line
[04:39] <iNToIT> undrgrndr, the correct spelling is seruptitiously
[04:39] <nsfw> uhh, this is like 101, and I'm perfectly fine asking here :)
[04:39] <iNToIT> belter, nsfw is Life^
[04:39] <nsfw> dude I'm just trying to remember without going and finding my old accounting b
[04:40] <nsfw> I'm pretty sure it's net profit (which would be very good) but I don't remembe
[04:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:41] <nsfw> blah, why don't we just change the topic to be what it seems like everyone rea
[04:41] <nsfw> We only help with computer crap
[04:41] <undrgrndr> TY
[04:41] <iNToIT> because we don't. But we also get people with no common sense asking importa
[04:42] <fluor_> what is the best program for news reader (not files, just discussions)
[04:42] <fluor_> windows
[04:43] <undrgrndr> <iNToIT> undrgrndr, the correct spelling is seruptitiously
[04:43] <undrgrndr> actually that isnt =)
[04:43] <iNToIT> oh?
[04:44] <undrgrndr> surreptitiously
[04:44] <undrgrndr> =)
[04:44] <IamKing> fluor_: I think Thunderbird can access newsgroups and threads the posts
[04:44] <belter> forte agent is the standard, but there are very good pay web sites with amaz
[04:44] <iNToIT> d'oh
[04:44] <undrgrndr> hehe
[04:44] <iNToIT> my bad man, you're correct
[04:44] <undrgrndr> two letters off
[04:44] <iNToIT> nah, I just shouldn't have relied on google
[04:44] <undrgrndr> doulbe r, and ep
[04:45] <undrgrndr> double*
[04:45] <iNToIT> I spelled it correctly in my search and google corrected me inaccurately *si
[04:45] <undrgrndr> relied on google ;)
[04:45] <undrgrndr> if you put that, surreptitiously, in google it defiantly doesnt change it
[04:46] <undrgrndr> why would google correct into a wrong spelling. i have never heard of tha
[04:47] <undrgrndr> and the mistake would be consistent in trying again if so , no ?
[04:47] <belter> because the root word is spelt incorrectly and there are to many matches
[04:47] <belter> google determins a probability and returns the highest
[04:47] <undrgrndr> root? surreptitious?
[04:48] <belter> just like a spell check
[04:48] * tch0ut__ is now known as tch0ut
[04:49] <undrgrndr> <iNToIT> I spelled it correctly in my search and google corrected m
[04:49] <undrgrndr> <belter> because the root word is spelt incorrectly
[04:49] <undrgrndr> i dont think you get it belter
[04:49] <undrgrndr> what iNToIT is declaring is impossible
[04:50] <undrgrndr> no way surreptitiously in ggogle comes up with a suggested correction to
[04:50] <iNToIT> undrgrndr, I use an app that pulls suggestions as you type and queries googl
[04:50] <undrgrndr> google(
[04:50] <belter> no it's not, and i don't need a webex or screen shots to validate that the o
[04:50] <iNToIT> between the two, google returned an inaccurate result
[04:50] <iNToIT> end of story
[04:51] <undrgrndr> whats the app ?
[04:51] <iNToIT> perhaps if I went to google.com I would have gotten an accurate result, but
[04:52] <undrgrndr> not being an ass, was trying to reproduce the behaviour
[04:52] <undrgrndr> whats the app ?
[04:53] <belter> customer is satified with the results and resolution/workaround... shut up a
[04:53] <iNToIT> something a friend at google is working on
[04:53] <iNToIT> it's still in alpha stage so it's not perfect :)
[04:55] * Ox41 is now known as Ox40
[04:55] <undrgrndr> <belter> customer is satified with the results and resolution/worka
[04:55] <undrgrndr> where did that come from ?
[04:56] <iNToIT> belter's a bit agressive, but you're kinda being annoying
[04:56] <iNToIT> such is life
[04:59] <undrgrndr> it would only be annoying if i knew you weren't using google.com, which c
[05:00] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[05:28] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[05:29] <aratar> iNToIT: how do you say goodbye/so long/untill next time in japanese? or.. a
[05:32] <iNToIT> what makes you think I speak japanese?
[05:32] <iNToIT> o.O
[05:32] <aratar> your wife is japanese
[05:33] <iNToIT> yes, she is. and she speaks japanese
[05:33] <aratar> and yes, you know me.. just not under this nick
[05:34] <aratar> judgning on who was awake, you were the one most likely to know the answer s
[05:34] <iNToIT> lol
[05:37] <iNToIT> aratar ja ne (jah nay) is like.. "see you around"
[05:38] <iNToIT> see you later.. Dewa mata
[05:38] <aratar> ah.. thanks :)
[05:38] <iNToIT> :)
[05:38] <iNToIT> becarefuk how you use it, it's very casual
[05:38] <iNToIT> *careful
[05:39] <iNToIT> "seeya" seems to be mata ne
[05:39] <aratar> *nod*
[05:39] <aratar> as with all asian languages..
[05:40] <iNToIT> ahh here's a good thread for you http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid
[05:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:40] <aratar> perfect
[05:40] <aratar> thanks
[05:41] <iNToIT> np
[05:41] <iNToIT> I really should learn this stuff
[05:42] <aratar> heh
[05:46] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[05:52] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[06:06] * phisher1_ is now known as phisher1
[06:15] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[06:25] <bassgoon> anyone know if ycc 4:4:4 or RGB would be better choice of output for my ca
[06:25] <compdoc> I would try both. one at a time
[06:26] <bassgoon> yea...I can't see much a difference :p
[06:34] <phisher1> n00bin.
[06:37] <dod0> does ne1 know where i can find the dana jacobson drunk roast video?
[06:37] <rhelic> youtube ?
[06:37] <phisher1> google video ?
[06:38] <Mafaioz> who is that
[06:38] <rhelic> in Firefox, how do I stop Quicktime from nabbing .MPG files, and want them p
[06:38] <MaxfX> hey guyss
[06:38] <MaxfX> tell me
[06:38] <MaxfX> <p><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value=
[06:38] <MaxfX> how do i remoe from there the linking
[06:39] <MaxfX> i mean when u paste u tube in your website and u click duble click on the vid
[06:39] <MaxfX> how do iremove that part
[06:39] <Mafaioz> Then the video goes away
[06:39] <Mafaioz> haha
[06:39] <rhelic> MaxfX: you can't, because the link is INSIDE the flash
[06:39] <MaxfX> damn that what i thougth
[06:39] <PullTab> http://www.drewpickles.com/files/Overkill_bukake.jpg
[06:39] <MaxfX> damn
[06:40] <rhelic> MaxfX: suffer and whine
[06:40] <PullTab> http://www.drewpickles.com/files/Overkill_bukake.jpg
[06:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[06:40] <duffs> Is there anyway to recover a file in ppt that in the middle of a save the cim
[06:40] <phisher1> i'm perming him.
[06:41] <phisher1> this'll be the 3rd time
[06:41] <rhelic> phisher1: heh, I was thinking "I hope he perms him"
[06:41] <rhelic> oh, repeat offender?
[06:41] <duffs> that pic is discusting
[06:41] <MornStar> yeah :( deffinetely isn't real cum
[06:41] <rhelic> duffs: hmm, you're pretty screwed, check your temp folder and see if you can
[06:41] <MornStar> fakers!
[06:41] <rhelic> MornStar: ok stop
[06:41] <MornStar> hammer time?
[06:42] <phisher1> in fact, he's already banned for another host
[06:43] <duffs> thanks rhelic
[06:46] <blue^moon> he's been banned many many times
[06:47] <rhelic> if he can't stay around long enough to get a reaction from his URLs, I don't
[06:48] * Ifrit- is now known as Ifrit
[06:50] <shcm33k> g'day all, is there anyone that can help me with some actionscript ?
[06:51] <rhelic> I don't think there are any Flash scriptors here, try #flash, #html, etc
[06:52] <shcm33k> it was really just to see if anyone knew the limitations with regards to so
[06:52] <rhelic> ok then ask
[06:52] <rhelic> SilverLight is a better choice if you need to do something very intense or a
[06:53] <shcm33k> does flash support tcpip connections
[06:53] <rhelic> oh yes, of coure
[06:53] <shcm33k> i have made a multisocket tcpip server in vb.net
[06:53] <shcm33k> and i want to connect to it in flash
[06:54] <shcm33k> does flash have pre built classes for that, or do i have to build one like
[06:55] <rhelic> I don't know
[06:55] <rhelic> but if you use SL you could write it in C#.NET
[06:55] <rhelic> at least you'd know 85% of the language
[06:55] <shcm33k> you mean use the ocx and make a loader that contains the tcp client ?
[06:56] <shcm33k> oh you mean silverlight
[06:57] <shcm33k> i havent any experience with silverlight yet, i was just looking at it the
[06:57] <shcm33k> my understanding is its flash meets visual studio, yes ?
[06:57] <rhelic> of course the .NET version (2.0) is still beta
[06:57] <solitude> yeah
[06:57] <solitude> I still find the idea of browser apps lollable.
[06:57] <solitude> Since there are still no good browsers.
[06:57] <solitude> (none that i would like to beasically replace my shell)
[06:57] <solitude> -e
[06:58] <rhelic> solitude: well you haven't used SL, it runs natively
[06:58] <rhelic> somebody has a video iditor in SL
[06:58] <solitude> it doesnt use a browser??
[06:58] <solitude> -?
[06:58] <solitude> I thought it was mirosofts take on flash.
[06:58] <shcm33k> it can run in a browser through a plugin
[06:58] <rhelic> it is, but much better
[06:58] <solitude> not hard, flash sucks.
[06:58] <rhelic> SL has the ability to run in fullscreen mode too
[06:59] <solitude> so can my browser. ;)
[06:59] <rhelic> and I don't mean "full browser"
[06:59] <solitude> You mean silverlight binaries are browser independent?
[06:59] <rhelic> not the same thing
[06:59] <solitude> yes, iknow.
[06:59] <rhelic> no, they are JIT when you view them
[06:59] <solitude> I see.
[06:59] <rhelic> it's kind of like java, but without the memory drain or slowness
[06:59] * solitude mmms
[06:59] <rhelic> heck you could have a fully features Photoshop in SL, full speed
[07:00] <solitude> are there any developed apps for it yet?
[07:00] <solitude> (which i can try_
[07:00] <shcm33k> what style of language is silverlight ?
[07:00] <rhelic> silverlight.net they have a billion functioning demos
[07:00] <rhelic> SL 1.0 is Javascript, 2.0 is C#.NET
[07:00] <solitude> 2.0 sounds saner.
[07:00] <rhelic> 2.0 is still beta
[07:01] <rhelic> but infinitely faster
[07:01] <solitude> mmm
[07:01] <shcm33k> do you know when its due for release ?
[07:01] <solitude> wikipedia claims its a browser plugin.
[07:01] <rhelic> nope
[07:01] <rhelic> solitude: I never said it wasn't :P
[07:01] <solitude> yeah
[07:01] <solitude> but its *just* a brower plugin.
[07:01] <solitude> like flash.
[07:01] <rhelic> and?
[07:01] <shcm33k> but just like flash, you can have a projector
[07:02] <solitude> shcm33k, ah/
[07:02] <shcm33k> you can compile an exe
[07:03] <rhelic> plus MS has SL available for IE, FF, Opera and for Windows, Mac, Linux
[07:03] <rhelic> the first time they've truly gone multiplatform
[07:03] <MarkC> hey guys, I am looking at an agp radeon x1650 pro 512 8x, and a pci-e radeon
[07:03] <solitude> well, yes and no
[07:04] <solitude> theres no opera yet
[07:04] <solitude> its just planned. :)
[07:04] <rhelic> yea, I don't see why they'd bother with O
[07:04] <solitude> its got a decent market share
[07:04] <nsfw> MarkC: Probably cause they aren't produced en masse anymore :|
[07:04] <solitude> almost as much as safari i think
[07:04] <rhelic> solitude: < 1% ???
[07:04] <solitude> more now./
[07:04] <nsfw> anyone know of software that will essentially let you turn a computer into a t
[07:04] <rhelic> no, Safari is at 3% or 4%
[07:04] <rhelic> nope
[07:04] <nsfw> a bootable cd
[07:04] <solitude> safari has been dropping recently
[07:04] <solitude> more FF users.
[07:05] <shcm33k> FF FTW.
[07:05] <solitude> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
[07:05] <rhelic> solitude: http://www.sweetbigjuggs.com/plib/m066/movie-02.mpg
[07:05] <rhelic> read the facts, not the rumors
[07:06] <solitude> i prefer my link.
[07:06] <rhelic> ok Opera does have a solid 1%
[07:06] <solitude> 1.4
[07:06] <solitude> vs safari 1.7.
[07:06] <solitude> so i was wrong :)
[07:06] <menkio> can i use this apple keyboard on my windows xp box
[07:06] <solitude> but the trend was right.
[07:06] <menkio> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco
[07:06] <solitude> (opera *was* beating safari a few months ago too)
[07:07] <rhelic> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/December/browser.php
[07:07] <shcm33k> menkio, keyboards work on most any platform, just some of the keys wont wor
[07:07] <solitude> yeah
[07:07] <solitude> i prefer w3c as a link. ;)
[07:07] <shcm33k> ie. mac key vs. windows key
[07:07] <menkio> kk
[07:08] <rhelic> solitude: Safari has been at 3% for more than a year, O has never had that s
[07:08] <solitude> rhelic, link i said, from *my* source.
[07:08] <rhelic> sounds like a fluke in the data
[07:08] <Kor> I like opera
[07:08] <solitude> w3schools has a pretty solid rep. ;)
[07:08] <rhelic> solitude: then your source's sample set is to small or niche
[07:08] <solitude> or yours is.
[07:09] <solitude> point is, both are minority browsers.
[07:09] <Xenctuary> Hey
[07:09] <rhelic> well those stats must be for their website, that's niche
[07:10] <rhelic> 30% of the web isn't FF, but 30% of web developers, yesn
[07:10] <Xenctuary> I need some help with dynamic IPs, if anyone's handy with that sort of st
[07:10] <shcm33k> i agree w3schools is niche
[07:10] <dod0> does ne1 know where i can find the dana jacobson drunk roast video?
[07:10] <shcm33k> what do you need Xenctuary ?
[07:10] <shcm33k> dod0 - no.
[07:10] <Xenctuary> I've recently signed up to a second ISP in my home and it comes with a dy
[07:11] <Xenctuary> It's fine with my other ISP (Zen) since they provide static, non changing
[07:11] <Xenctuary> I've got several domain names and a server, if that helps?
[07:12] <Xenctuary> I used to forward one of the DNS records to my static IP, but obviously t
[07:12] <rhelic> Xenctuary: you could use DynaIP, but you NEED static to have a server
[07:12] <rhelic> Xenctuary: otherwise it's going to random get lost
[07:12] <Xenctuary> Hmm
[07:12] <Xenctuary> It's really only for use for remote connections to my computer from when
[07:13] <shcm33k> Xenctuary - you might even have one of those services catered for in your r
[07:13] <Xenctuary> Or for showing web projects to peers without uploading them
[07:13] <shcm33k> have you checked ?
[07:13] <Xenctuary> Well I'm sure the O2 Broadband router doesn't have any such service, sinc
[07:13] <Xenctuary> software*
[07:13] <Xenctuary> I blanked our old Sky router and installed the NetGear generic firmware,
[07:14] <shcm33k> it would be under "Dynamic DNS" or something
[07:14] <Xenctuary> I'll have to check that in a bit
[07:14] <rhelic> Xenctuary: if you need remote desktop to a dynamic IP, there's a service cal
[07:15] <solitude> well, yes and no
[07:15] <Xenctuary> Hmm
[07:15] <solitude> sound routers can auto updates dyndns :)
[07:15] <solitude> some*
[07:15] <solitude> (like mine)
[07:15] <bizinichi> how do i tell ms word 2007 to save by default as .doc and not .docx
[07:15] <rhelic> bizinichi: hit the logo button, then save as
[07:15] <Xenctuary> Under compatibility bizinichi, in the ribbon's preferences
[07:15] <Xenctuary> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-3340198.php
[07:16] <Xenctuary> "In Word 2007, click on Office Button | Word Options | Save | Save files"
[07:16] <Xenctuary> :)
[07:16] <rhelic> Xenctuary: that's the hard way
[07:16] <bizinichi> Xenctuary, i dont see no preferences
[07:16] <rhelic> Logo > Save as
[07:16] <Xenctuary> rhelic: he meant by default
[07:16] <bizinichi> id rather not click save as for every document
[07:16] <rhelic> oh, sorry
[07:16] <bizinichi> id have it by default, thatd be nice
[07:16] <Xenctuary> It's in Ribbon > Word Options (bottom of the menu) > Save Preferenc
[07:16] <rhelic> I love the new format, ppl need to just install the compatibility plugin :P
[07:16] <Xenctuary> Umm I can get a screencap if you need it?
[07:17] <bizinichi> when you say ribbon, are you talking about some menu?
[07:17] <Xenctuary> The Office button :D
[07:17] <Xenctuary> Top left dude
[07:17] <bizinichi> gah
[07:17] <bizinichi> i hate this learning curve
[07:17] <Xenctuary> Once you get used to it you should be alright
[07:17] <Xenctuary> Plus I'd change the colour scheme to "Grey" personally, the default ones
[07:17] <bizinichi> ah, where do i do that from
[07:18] <bizinichi> that would be excellent
[07:18] <Xenctuary> Same menu, Word Options
[07:18] <Xenctuary> Then, from memory, it should be one of the options on the left
[07:18] <Xenctuary> "Global Settings"
[07:18] <Xenctuary> or something
[07:18] <Xenctuary> I'm on my mac now so just using memory here heh
[07:18] <purbeast> what does this line in mirc do that displays and you have to press ctrl +
[07:18] <rhelic> Xenctuary: is there a plan to release Office2008 to Mac?
[07:18] <bizinichi> they have blue, silver and black
[07:18] <rhelic> with the ribbon?
[07:18] <Xenctuary> It's already out
[07:19] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[07:19] <rhelic> ahh
[07:19] <Xenctuary> It released two weeks ago D
[07:19] <Xenctuary> Sorry, "grey" = silver
[07:19] <bizinichi> i actually went and got the classic menu addon tool for office 2007... so
[07:19] <Xenctuary> http://www.macoffice2008.com/
[07:19] <jackal^> purbeast, /help line marker
[07:19] <rhelic> bizinichi: shame, once you get use to the Ribbon, you'll prefer it, much mor
[07:19] <Xenctuary> Indeed
[07:20] <rhelic> it's a superior interface.. oneday we'll laugh at programs that have a menu
[07:20] <drewbuntu> thehy released it at macworld
[07:20] <bizinichi> maybe so
[07:20] <rhelic> for the same reason we laugh at console UIs
[07:20] <Xenctuary> I still think they should have stuck to Apple's Design Guidelines
[07:20] <Xenctuary> It's so non-conformist
[07:20] <Xenctuary> hehe
[07:20] <shcm33k> hey ! im writing a console UI !
[07:20] <Xenctuary> Anyway switching networks to O2.. let's see..
[07:20] <Xenctuary> brb
[07:20] <rhelic> orginizing program features by technical catefory is moronic.... Office 2007
[07:21] <purbeast> jackal^ thanks :)
[07:22] <ppmirc> ciao dove trovo file di film
[07:23] <RBL> english: english only, inglés solamente, alleen Engels, anglais seulement, nur
[07:23] <shcm33k> hey rhelic ! have you watched the silverlight "get started" video ?
[07:24] <shcm33k> if you watch it, you will notice that silverlight has installed under both
[07:24] <shcm33k> could that mean its vb.net compatible too ?
[07:25] <rhelic> not that I've heard of, but being .NET, supporting other languages would be
[07:25] <rhelic> the question is if they do it for 2.0 or the next version
[07:26] <shcm33k> http://blogs.msdn.com/vbteam/archive/2007/05/01/vb-on-silverlight.aspx
[07:27] <shcm33k> i get the impression its available on 1.1 ? :S
[07:27] <menkio> i get this error when installing sound drivers
[07:27] <menkio> microsoft bus driver should be loaded in your sysytem before installing real
[07:28] <menkio> anyone have some help for fixing this issue
[07:28] <rhelic> shcm33k: 1.1 got renamed to 2.0
[07:29] <pixil> menkio: vista?
[07:29] <shcm33k> sweet
[07:29] <menkio> xp
[07:29] <menkio> sp2
[07:29] <shcm33k> well that makes my life a hell of a lot easier
[07:30] <dingalin> Has anyone had experience with wrt54* routers or using routers as bridges?
[07:30] <dingalin> running out of ideas
[07:31] <pixil> menkio: You obviously did not google the error message.
[07:31] <pixil> Please do.
[07:31] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[07:31] <menkio> i did, and tried the 'patch'
[07:31] <menkio> nothing
[07:32] <pixil> nah, you should have gone to the MS article that discusses it
[07:32] <pixil> And, try more than 1 source for information
[07:32] <menkio> yea, and they give you a fix
[07:33] <Xenc> Hey
[07:33] <menkio> hey..
[07:33] <Xenc> DownStream Connection Speed 20327 kbps, UpStream Connection Speed 1343 kbps
[07:33] <Xenc> Hurrah! :D
[07:33] <menkio> maybe i used the wrong os
[07:33] <Xenc> Right, I've found a "Dynamic IP" option
[07:33] <menkio> how can i check s verson
[07:34] <pixil> menkio: You followed the instructions and everything.
[07:34] <Xenc> Sorry, "Dynamic DNS"
[07:34] <pixil> Like, rebooting after you applied the "fix" ?
[07:34] <menkio> yyea
[07:34] <menkio> but maybe i did the wrong os
[07:34] <menkio> i'm pretty sure its winxp sp2
[07:34] <pixil> Xenc: which?
[07:34] <Xenc> http://kbserver.netgear.com/inquira/default.asp?ui_mode=answer&prior_transacti
[07:34] <RBL> <Xenc> http://tinyurl.com/2bz965
[07:34] <Xenc> Is that what I'm after?
[07:34] <pixil> Xenc: What are you trying to do?
[07:34] <Xenc> That's the page I'm looking at now
[07:34] <Xenc> Hey pixil
[07:35] <Xenc> I'm trying to assign a domain name that I'm in possession of to a dynamic home
[07:35] <pixil> That is one option, yes.
[07:35] <Xenc> How else could I do it? Is there any way to use _my_ remote server instead of
[07:36] <pixil> It's not free if you take that route, though. :-)
[07:37] <pixil> If you want a simple solution, use something like dyndns.org
[07:37] <compdoc> I just signed up with DynDNS
[07:37] <pixil> I used dyndns in the past. It's a pretty darn good service.
[07:37] <compdoc> well, about two months ago
[07:37] <Xenc> Hmm
[07:37] <Xenc> Okay that's cool
[07:37] <Xenc> Thanks for the help I'll let you know how it goes
[07:37] <Xenc> Just setting up firewall rules now =/
[07:38] <compdoc> comcast doesnt change my ip very often, but when it does, its a pain
[07:38] <Eyal> ?
[07:38] <shcm33k> silverlight is vector as well, yeah ?
[07:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:41] <Eyal> Of which country of this server?
[07:42] <jackal^> ?
[07:42] <Eyal> Of which place.....?
[07:43] <iNToIT> Eyal this "network" is many servers in many countries all connected
[07:43] <jackal^> what server
[07:44] <Eyal> But where this belongs mainly?
[07:44] <Eyal> For example where are you from?
[07:45] <Eyal> From which country you?
[07:46] <phisher1> err
[07:46] <shcm33k> We are all from different countries
[07:46] <shcm33k> there is no "Main"
[07:46] <Xenc> UK here
[07:46] <Xenc> But this is universal
[07:47] <pixil> I really hate that there's no way to search google for a character that's use
[07:48] <rhelic> pixil: you can't \ it?
[07:48] <pixil> Like +make or NIS+
[07:48] <pixil> rhelic: yeah, it just ignores it.
[07:48] <rhelic> weak
[07:48] <pixil> Very
[07:48] <rhelic> I notice google doesn't respect periods either
[07:48] <pixil> Don't understand the point either
[07:48] <pixil> "." is a space to google
[07:48] <rhelic> like if you want some.dll it's useless
[07:48] <pixil> intitle:Untitled.document
[07:49] <pixil> Should return pages with "Untitled document" in their title
[07:49] <Eyal> Great I from Israel
[07:49] <pixil> So, . is a way to tie spaced terms together with a google operator applied to
[07:50] <pixil> But, I can't search for malware.exe, that will search for +malware +exe
[07:50] <pixil> :-/
[07:50] <iNToIT> <rhelic> like if you want some.dll it's useless
[07:50] <pixil> hideous!
[07:50] <iNToIT> rhelic you can search by filename and type
[07:50] <pixil> by filename?
[07:50] <iNToIT> yes
[07:50] <pixil> I know how to search filetype
[07:50] <pixil> filename: is an operator?
[07:51] <iNToIT> well you put the filename before the type
[07:51] <Jumpie> its that he wants to include characters in search that' are reserved as spec
[07:51] <iNToIT> filename AND type, when searching for the type
[07:51] <iNToIT> not or
[07:51] <pixil> type is very limited, though
[07:51] <pixil> ie: dll and exe are not supported
[07:52] <iNToIT> they must have removed it, when it was first implimented they did
[07:52] <pixil> All they need to do is properly designated an escape character
[07:52] <pixil> there must be a reason they're not
[07:52] <iNToIT> actually
[07:52] <iNToIT> http://www.google.com/help/faq_codesearch.html#regexp
[07:53] <w0t> Please tell me how to debug BSOD's in winXP. I got a stop error and windows app
[07:53] <iNToIT> To search for a space character, escape it with a backslash, as in hello,\ w
[07:53] <pixil> w0t: Yup, basically. They have a how-to on it. But it's not for the faint o
[07:53] <w0t> hmm
[07:54] <pixil> iNToIT: It's not space that I'm concerned with. It's google operators.
[07:54] <w0t> well it's kinda too late now when i've rebooted, isn't it?
[07:54] <pixil> Like the "+" character.
[07:54] <w0t> new stuff on those memory addresses now i guess?
[07:54] <pixil> I can't search pages for that character.
[07:54] <shcm33k> "+" ?
[07:54] <pixil> w0t: Generally speaking, depends on the stop. Some of the stop errors dump a
[07:55] <w0t> ok
[07:55] <w0t> that's the only address that made sense, too
[07:55] <pixil> shcm33k: right, it treats + as an operator even in that scenario.
[07:55] <w0t> i had this: 0x0000000A ( 0x00000016, 0x0000001C, 0x00000000, 0x80502392 )
[07:55] <pixil> useless...
[07:55] <shcm33k> which is retarded :P
[07:55] <pixil> shcm33k: Exactly
[07:56] <w0t> pixil, "useless" aimed at me?
[07:56] <w0t> or rather at the numbers i posted
[07:56] <shcm33k> you would think it would read left to right, reading characters as they com
[07:56] <pixil> w0t: yeah, those don't help you or us :-/
[07:56] <w0t> damn, so what should i do to troubleshoot?
[07:56] <w0t> windows reboots every ten minutes or so now
[07:56] <shcm33k> w0t- there should be reference to a dll somewhere in there
[07:57] <w0t> didn't see any
[07:57] <pixil> Did you write the entire blue screen error down?
[07:57] <w0t> nope, only the memory addresses
[07:57] <pixil> The message in the bluescreen is essentially more helpful than the memory dum
[07:57] <w0t> the rest sounded like generic info
[07:58] <pixil> Get a digital camera ready for the next BSOD. Get a shot of it before you re
[07:58] <w0t> yeah, i thought i'd do that
[07:58] <shcm33k> lol i cant even remember my last bsod
[07:58] <w0t> so i've got one here :)
[07:58] <w0t> lucky you
[07:58] <w0t> what os?
[07:59] <shcm33k> xp and vista
[07:59] <shcm33k> i think my last bsod was on 2000 tho !
[07:59] <pixil> my vista box never blue screens, now that I got rid of my hideous creative eq
[07:59] <Eyal> How this is ability when I joined this network joined with Israeli address and
[07:59] <pixil> Never again!
[07:59] <Eyal> ?
[07:59] <w0t> well, this camera is great
[07:59] <pixil> Eyal: Unfortunately your english is not good enough. :-(
[08:00] <pixil> I truly don't know how else to put it.
[08:00] <w0t> i can take a pic of the whole screen and zoom in on a single letter in irc :)
[08:00] <shcm33k> haha Eyal, keep up the good work buddy
[08:00] <iNToIT> Eyal server in isreal + server in USA + server in EU ...etc etc etc etc = ne
[08:00] <iNToIT> eyal join server in israel, = connected to ALL servers
[08:01] <shcm33k> whoa, iNToIT nice interpretation skills
[08:01] <w0t> :o
[08:01] <w0t> now someone say that in hebrew
[08:01] <iNToIT> baruch atah adunno no mo
[08:02] <w0t> seems like my computer isn't crashing, i must do something to push it over the
[08:02] <pixil> w0t: Like, it's overheating?
[08:02] <Eyal> Aha Aoki and my english is not good on account of that I am a user by the soft
[08:02] <w0t> pixil, like reproducing the error by plugging back in the external hdd
[08:02] <w0t> and running utorrent again
[08:02] <eyenot> could somebody help me with a simple binary math problem that eludes me
[08:03] <w0t> well utorrent crashed on startup :o
[08:03] <w0t> eyenot, just ask
[08:03] <Eyal> OK?
[08:03] <shcm33k> im sure someone can help you eyenot
[08:03] <shcm33k> Ok eyal :)
[08:03] <iNToIT> Eyal OK!! Bye ;)
[08:04] <iNToIT> eyenot someone may help you, but #math #m-a-t-h and #mathhelp might help as
[08:04] <eyenot> i have to link all the elements in an array of cells so that by navigating t
[08:04] <iNToIT> might even be a #mathematics
[08:04] <Nerijus> how to register my nick?
[08:04] <phisher1> Nerijus: you cannot on efnet.
[08:04] <shcm33k> haha gone
[08:05] <w0t> how is that binary eyenot?
[08:06] <eyenot> w0t: it is not 'necessarily' binary, it could be solved in any normal way. b
[08:06] <eyenot> w0t: good question
[08:06] <Eyal> How impressions of nickname?
[08:06] <w0t> :o
[08:07] <shcm33k> eyal: do you mean "how do i change my nickname?"
[08:07] <eyenot> w0t: basically i have to 'scramble' these cells but without leaving any of t
[08:07] <aTkar> ïðèâåò âñåì
[08:07] <iNToIT> aTkar english please
[08:08] <w0t> i don't know math but in programming i think what you'd do is just make an arra
[08:08] <eyenot> w0t: normal linearity would be if there were say 8x8 cells and you went 'lef
[08:09] <eyenot> w0t: but i need to somehow twist the actual navigation so that in the actual
[08:09] <iNToIT> do you know how many cells for x and y you have?
[08:09] <eyenot> w0t: so far all my answers leave sections disconnected
[08:10] <eyenot> inToIT: i have 64 bits per axis
[08:10] <iNToIT> so you do a spiral starting from a corner
[08:10] <eyenot> inToIT: several billion X * Y
[08:10] <iNToIT> inword working
[08:10] <iNToIT> yeah, prolly beyond me
[08:11] <eyenot> iNToIT: we could just as easily say it's 8x8, whatever the solution is would
[08:11] <iNToIT> haven't looked at that stuff in 15+ years
[08:11] <iNToIT> well
[08:11] <eyenot> iNToIT: i have been practicing with 8x8 grids
[08:11] <Eyal> There is a channel of help in Hebrew?
[08:11] <iNToIT> one sec lemme ascii it
[08:11] <eyenot> iNToIT: i'd suggest ascii boxes of 3x3 so you can mark each side with a lett
[08:12] <Eyal> ?
[08:13] <eyenot> just to remind, the solution has to maintain that if you were to navigate 'u
[08:13] <shcm33k> eyal: maybe not a help channel, but im sure you will get more out of them,
[08:13] <w0t^> back from bsod
[08:13] <shcm33k> lol
[08:14] <iNToIT> eyenot (yes this is funny) but are you looking for a mathematical representa
[08:14] <eyenot> this is such a simple problem i know that the solution must be simple but it
[08:14] <Eyal> Wow splendid thank you very much
[08:15] <shcm33k> no worries
[08:15] <iNToIT> suddenly his english improves
[08:15] <eyenot> iNToIT: no
[08:15] <iNToIT> eyenot ok
[08:16] <iNToIT> eyenot so an assumption that the same grid is wrapped around a sphere?
[08:16] <shcm33k> i would of said a cube
[08:16] <eyenot> iNToIT: consider if instead of navigating 'right' moving me +1X and +0Y, it
[08:16] <eyenot> intoit: yes
[08:16] <eyenot> intoit: ... in the above attempt at a solution, i would have a checkerboard
[08:16] <iNToIT> nod
[08:17] <eyenot> intoit: i need to come up with something that ensures navigation of every ce
[08:17] <trex3717> hey is skylark around here these days
[08:17] <eyenot> intoit: granted, though, the effect would be sort of 'twirled' though not sp
[08:17] <eyenot> intoit: i just, can't, grasp it
[08:17] <iNToIT> eyenot, movement like a snake?
[08:17] <iNToIT> .'`'.'`'.'`
[08:18] <trex4623> sorry , just got disconnected
[08:18] <eyenot> intoit: no, the formula for each navigational 'step' has to be consistent no
[08:18] <iNToIT> that sounds like a portal
[08:18] <eyenot> alright
[08:18] <iNToIT> on a 2-d plane
[08:19] <eyenot> that's a good visual... i guess another would be a space/time twirl
[08:19] <trex4623> so are you two guys the only ones on here
[08:19] <iNToIT> where you step from one "surface" through the plane to the opposite "surface
[08:19] <shcm33k> im here too
[08:19] <trex4623> lol
[08:19] <shcm33k> :P
[08:19] <trex4623> how are you guys doing
[08:19] <eyenot> intoit: right, or wrapped around a sphere, or like a teseract
[08:19] <trex4623> havent been here in ages
[08:20] <eyenot> intoit: navigating 'up' past the represented 'top' of the cell array would b
[08:20] <compdoc> only the guys get a hello? What about us gals?!!
[08:20] <iNToIT> nod, I understand the visual, but the mathematical representation is beyond
[08:20] <eyenot> intoit: darn. thank you, though
[08:20] <iNToIT> nod
[08:21] <trex4623> any of you guys have DISH at the mo
[08:21] <iNToIT> do you have a question about DISH at the mo?
[08:21] <shcm33k> on my rims ?
[08:22] <trex4623> no just trying to get soemones fucking attention about were i can find sky
[08:23] <rhelic> Tapas: for when you want to pay $8 for 2 bites
[08:23] <trex1086> ok i prefer mirc over this type , whats the Info to add this irc to mirc
[08:24] <Fgh45> Hello, there is a directory in my computer which I can't open, however, when
[08:24] <rhelic> trex1086: huh?
[08:24] <Fgh45> I have WinXP
[08:24] <rhelic> Fgh45: are you administrator?
[08:24] <Fgh45> yes
[08:24] <trex1086> ok i prefer the mirc irc
[08:24] <rhelic> Fgh45: right click folder, check security, make sure Admin isn't denied
[08:24] <compdoc> Fgh45, whats its name?
[08:24] <Fgh45> hold on, let me check
[08:25] <shcm33k> Fgh45 - which error do you get when you try to open it
[08:25] <trex1086> fuck this , now i remember why i lef this whorehouse
[08:25] * MaxfX is now known as Serah
[08:25] <shcm33k> some people...
[08:25] * shcm33k shakes head.
[08:26] <Fgh45> I can't find anything related to security
[08:26] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[08:27] <shcm33k> Fgh45 - which error do you get when you try to open it
[08:27] <Fgh45> the error is "access is denied"
[08:27] <shcm33k> and it is a local folder i assume
[08:27] <Fgh45> yes, local folder
[08:28] <shcm33k> when you right click the folder-> properties .... there is no security t
[08:28] <Fgh45> ok, I found this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881
[08:28] <Fgh45> nope, no security tab
[08:30] <shcm33k> have you followed those steps ?
[08:30] <shcm33k> particularly the "uncheck use simple file sharing" step
[08:32] <rhelic> Fgh45: oh sweet, thanks for that URL, I was having a similar problem when my
[08:32] <rhelic> lost access to a bunch of my folders on the old drive
[08:34] <shcm33k> that simple file sharing check box is a killer
[08:34] <rhelic> (Recomended) !
[08:34] <shcm33k> worst option ever made, on any os, ever
[08:34] <rhelic> err, I can't access the subfolder, and the Security tab isn't allowed on tho
[08:35] <rhelic> d0h, I encrypted my old folders
[08:38] <rhelic> ah ha! http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/microsoft.public.security/2005-0
[08:39] <poolboy> is there some place where I can find out which alcoholic beverages are cons
[08:39] <poolboy> I am wondering where scotch would be on such a list
[08:39] <rhelic> here's the official write up http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328817
[08:39] <poolboy> they have a kb article?!!
[08:39] <rhelic> poolboy: classy is about how you drink it, not what it is
[08:39] <rhelic> poolboy: not you
[08:39] <rhelic> although MS does have some pretty off subject KB articles
[08:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:40] <poolboy> I'm not a drinker myself - but is someone I know drinks scotch exclusively,
[08:40] <poolboy> *if someone
[08:40] <shcm33k> that they really like scotch
[08:40] <poolboy> hahaha
[08:41] <rhelic> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-GB;835826
[08:41] <rhelic> poolboy: drinking something on the rocks is classy, as a martini city (semi
[08:41] <rhelic> I drink tequila on the rocks
[08:42] <Fgh45> I add to enable "Use simple file sharing" under "Advanced Settings" to get th
[08:44] <Fgh45> well, I add to disable "Use simple file sharing" ...
[08:44] <Fgh45> Why the heck they recommand to enable it?
[08:44] <rhelic> lol! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/139048
[08:45] <poolboy> Is there a working implementation of Shor's quantum algorithm for prime fac
[08:46] <poolboy> maybe i'll ask google
[08:47] <rhelic> ugh yea
[08:47] <rhelic> wikipedia ftw
[08:49] <poolboy> this is the best titled in my opinion: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=
[08:50] <Fgh45> Another question. In my "Documents and Settings" folder I have the accounts "
[08:51] <rhelic> Fgh45: iirc you have to boot into safe mode
[08:52] <Fgh45> Why on my other PC there is no "Administrator" folder in "Documents and Setti
[08:52] <Fgh45> Maybe because I never used the safe mode on that PC?
[08:53] <jackal^> Fgh45, its probably hidden
[08:53] <jackal^> administrator account dont show in normal xp start up
[08:54] <Fgh45> All the hidden files are shown on both PC
[08:55] <jackal^> if you \administrator in addresss bar?
[08:55] <jackal^> type*
[08:55] <mingles> Anyone here ever return software to Costco ?
[08:56] <nsfw> yeah is it opened?
[08:57] <nsfw> it's a standard (but somewhat better) return policy
[08:57] <nsfw> if it's opened they tend to want to do a same item replacement. And even then
[08:57] <nsfw> so its within 90 days of purchase after that you have to go through the manufa
[08:57] <Fgh45> nope. no "Administrator" folder in "Documents and Settings".
[08:57] <eyenot> intoit: want to try again in a more linear fashion?
[08:58] <eyenot> intoit: another way to put it would be, what permutation can i put a given b
[08:58] <jackal^> Fgh45, start, run: control userpasswords2
[08:58] <mingles> nsfw: I thought Costco had a more relaxed return policy on Software
[08:59] <eyenot> intoit: the process would have to be reversible, as well. if i iterated 'for
[09:00] <Fgh45> ok, I will check that
[09:00] <Fgh45> thanks
[09:00] <eyenot> i keep thinking i could just rotate
[09:00] <deww> computer names are not case sensitive when joining a domain is it?
[09:01] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[09:01] <deww> meaning, if the computer objects already appear in the ADUC, "CORPPC01" and i
[09:01] <deww> assuming my account has enough privileges
[09:02] <deww> yes, no, no comprende engrish?
[09:06] <Codepage> how can I to hack this irc-server?
[09:06] <MornStar> /server hax0r
[09:08] <Codepage> help me to hack it
[09:08] <MornStar> okay, just type /server hax0r
[09:08] <estranger> wonder if #2,000 still works for hackin up the server
[09:08] <MornStar> shh don't tell him about the secret channel
[09:08] * tch0ut___ is now known as tch0ut
[09:09] <Codepage> lol
[09:09] <Codepage> /j #2,000
[09:09] <Codepage> wahahh
[09:10] <Codepage> may be /run shutdown -r ?
[09:11] <omnisient> lol
[09:11] <omnisient> this is generl help right?
[09:11] <omnisient> like about ANYTHING?
[09:14] <deww> omnisient: most, but not necessarily ANYTHING
[09:15] <deww> like the ones that the current person answering you doesn't wanna help with or
[09:20] <deww> uhm
[09:20] <deww> you can have IE6 and 7 on a PC simultaneously?
[09:20] <TheUni> maybe with a hack
[09:20] <TheUni> but natively, no
[09:21] <iNToIT> #help rules include but are not limited to the information on the following
[09:21] <iNToIT> +s
[09:22] <iNToIT> deww, yes, running in VM
[09:22] <pixil> He said same machine. :p
[09:23] <iNToIT> it's the same machine, it just happens to be running in a virtual machine
[09:23] <deww> no
[09:23] <deww> this guy has both on his pc
[09:23] <deww> @_@
[09:23] <pixil> iNToIT: come on ;p
[09:23] <deww> oh no he does not
[09:23] <deww> hrm
[09:23] <akirch> #help rules... ARE WHATEVER TRELANE SAYS THEY ARE, AND NOTHING MORE, NOTHING
[09:23] <pixil> Good thing no idiot named trelane is here.
[09:23] <pixil> captain.
[09:23] <deww> just somehow he had IE7, but IE6 was reinstalled for him
[09:23] <Famic_> anyone would know where to download old browsers apps ? for instance i'm loo
[09:24] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[09:25] <iNToIT> deww just for laughs http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.ht
[09:27] <iNToIT> Famic_ one of the sites in these search results might help http://www.google
[09:34] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[09:36] <HS^> what is "half past 1", 12:30 or 13:30
[09:37] <Mafaioz> 13:30
[09:37] <Saww> i'm trying to download java sdk,it has 2 options, Solaris SPARC Platform and
[09:37] <Mafaioz> What is the past ?
[09:37] <Mafaioz> its already +passed 1
[09:40] <iNToIT> saww http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-windows.html
[09:40] <pixil> Saww: You need JRE, unless you're doing java proramming.
[09:40] <pixil> http://java.sun.com/getjava
[09:41] <Saww> pixil - i am :)
[09:41] <Saww> iNToIT - in there i found those 2 "versions" ..
[09:41] <iNToIT> then x86
[09:41] <Saww> ty :)
[09:41] <iNToIT> yw
[09:43] <iNToIT> saww
[09:43] <iNToIT> You skipped a step
[09:43] <Saww> ?
[09:43] <iNToIT> it shouldn't say solaris
[09:43] <Saww> which one?
[09:43] <iNToIT> this is what you want http://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-C
[09:43] <RBL> <iNToIT> http://tinyurl.com/yuo2qx
[09:43] <Edward123> hey, i'm setting up port forwarding on my router - it's got 4 options, pr
[09:44] <iNToIT> saww there was a dropdown to choose which platform, you must have left it on
[09:44] <Saww> iNToIT - "Product Not Found"
[09:44] <Saww> and i haven't chosen a platform even..
[09:44] <iNToIT> ok go back a step, hang on
[09:44] <Saww> i just googled and found something.. but i'll just google the offical site and
[09:44] <iNToIT> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_
[09:44] <RBL> <iNToIT> http://tinyurl.com/2lk9sj
[09:44] <iNToIT> go there, follows the directions
[09:45] <iNToIT> remember to choose windows in the dropdown :)
[09:45] <Saww> what's SE ?
[09:45] <Saww> and i did, ty :)
[09:45] <iNToIT> standard edition
[09:45] <Saww> cool
[09:46] <Saww> wait, my computer is x86 arch. what's x64/x32 then?
[09:46] <iNToIT> i linked you to the sdk though
[09:46] <iNToIT> 32/64 bit.. as in 64bit windows or 32bit windows
[09:46] <Saww> "though" ?
[09:46] <iNToIT> x86 is the platform based on processor type
[09:46] <Saww> ok cool, and how do i know how much bits my windows is working on?
[09:47] <Zeddeeeh> http://88.112.72.76/ue/view.htm?a=1
[09:47] <Zeddeeeh> what kind of file is that?
[09:47] <iNToIT> normal windows xp is 32bit. there is a 64bit version too. Same with vista. r
[09:48] <Saww> iNToIT - i already looked in there, it doesn't say anything on bits. does that
[09:48] <iNToIT> yes
[09:48] <Saww> ok cool, tyvm :)
[09:48] <Edward123> any of you guys know what my router might mean by 'portmap'?
[09:48] <iNToIT> saww, np
[09:48] <Saww> i'm also downloading java sdk, hopefully i don't need anything else but it to
[09:49] <Saww> Edward123 - maybe mapping the port to 1 of the home computers :-O ?
[09:50] <Edward123> hrm Saww, i don't think so - it's part of a wizard and you initially spec
[09:50] <iNToIT> Edward123, generally it's where you either set your portforwarding in the ro
[09:51] <iNToIT> Edward123 if you don't have a need to forward a prt, leave it alone. If you
[09:51] <Saww> i think i was close :P
[09:51] <iNToIT> prt/port
[09:51] <Saww> iNToIT - just wondering, a developer?
[09:51] <iNToIT> no
[09:52] <Edward123> hmm well i do need to forward a port, but i'm not sure what info to put i
[09:52] <iNToIT> Edward123, what router?
[09:52] <Edward123> just trying to find out
[09:52] <Edward123> some no name brand
[09:53] <iNToIT> are you accessing it via a web interface?
[09:53] <Edward123> i am yeah
[09:53] <iNToIT> if so, the info page should tell you
[09:53] <Edward123> hrm very useful: "Model Number Wireless ADSL2+ Router"
[09:53] <iNToIT> do you have physical access to it? (check for model info?)
[09:53] <ASk> Edward123: can you try ssh/telnet to the router's IP?
[09:53] <Edward123> yeah i can get to it, one mo
[09:54] <Edward123> hrm i don't have access to an external place to connect from at the mo, A
[09:54] <Edward123> could you give it a try?
[09:54] <Saww> iNToIT - i installed it, no shurtcots -_-
[09:55] <iNToIT> Edward123, you were in here earlier as trex
[09:55] <Edward123> no i wasn't
[09:55] <Edward123> but i am on a dynamic IP
[09:55] <ASk> Edward123: I doubt that I would be able to do it
[09:55] <ASk> seeing as I'm outside your lan
[09:55] <Edward123> ASk: the port i am trying to open up is from WAN -> LAN
[09:55] <Edward123> it's for bitorrent
[09:56] <Edward123> i want all traffic to my IP on port 456 to come through to my laptop y'se
[09:56] <pixil> come to your laptop, you mean?
[09:56] <Saww> is there anyway to write a program name in command line and it will execute a
[09:56] <Edward123> my broadband IP
[09:57] <rhelic> Saww: well you can code anything you want, have it search around for a speci
[09:57] <Edward123> that's right, pixil - in effect, everything to 88.109.60.33 to come throu
[09:57] <Edward123> on port 456
[09:57] <pixil> very simple, assuming you have a network router with NAT.
[09:57] <Saww> rhelic - i have no idea what you just said, sorry :S
[09:58] <Saww> what code? it's command line, i didn't even know you can code in it :S
[09:58] <Edward123> if someone could just try and telnet to 88.109.60.33
[09:58] <Edward123> -
[09:58] <Edward123> sorry, bad paste
[09:58] <Edward123> if i could get someone to telnet to 88.109.60.33 on port 456 i would appr
[09:58] <Saww> could not open ...
[09:59] <Edward123> should just open up a connection and sit there
[09:59] <Saww> (closed too fast couldn't see the rest)
[09:59] <Edward123> on port 456, Saww?
[09:59] <Saww> now trying in port 456, it just disappeared :S
[10:02] <Edward123> hrm
[10:05] <iNToIT> Edward123, first.. for torrents, use a high port, something above 1024 for s
[10:05] <iNToIT> Your isp might be blocking what you're doing
[10:05] <iNToIT> so use a port like 34567
[10:06] <Edward123> iNToIT, i tried high ports but couldn't get any connections - tried upnp
[10:06] <Edward123> no luck
[10:06] <iNToIT> did you make sure upnp is enabled in your OS AND your router?
[10:07] <iNToIT> and do you have a firewall, software or otherwise enabled?
[10:07] <Edward123> well i made sure it was enabled on utorrent and on my router
[10:07] <Edward123> firewall should be off - i will double check though
[10:07] <iNToIT> it also has to be enabled in windows if the ICF is on
[10:07] <Edward123> firewall is on but the utorrent software is added to the list of exceptio
[10:07] <Edward123> enabled in windows - windows firewall settings or elsewhere?
[10:08] <iNToIT> if not, just manually set the port in windows
[10:08] <iNToIT> in the firewall exceptions
[10:08] <Edward123> ah i have 'upnp framework' added
[10:08] <Edward123> i'll try disabling it to see if that helps
[10:08] <Edward123> disabling the firewall that is
[10:08] <iNToIT> and again
[10:08] <iNToIT> don't use a port below 1024
[10:08] <Edward123> OK
[10:08] <iNToIT> go high
[10:09] <Saww> reach for the sky.
[10:10] <Edward123> right trying again with a high port, local firewall disabled (and upnp is
[10:10] <iNToIT> yes
[10:10] <iNToIT> I'm not personally a big fan of upnp. I prefer to set the ports manually
[10:10] <iNToIT> but that's just me.
[10:11] <Edward123> no upnp is more like plug and pray really
[10:11] <Edward123> i don't really understand it's workings
[10:11] <Saww> iNToIT - DMZPlus mode is upnp enabled right?
[10:11] <Edward123> no still no luck, for fucks sake
[10:11] <pixil> Saww: right
[10:11] <Saww> how come my router can only set 1 computer in DMZPlus mode then?
[10:12] <pixil> because it's a little $50 set-top router?
[10:12] <phisher1> if you did more than one, how would your router know which computer to for
[10:12] <iNToIT> <Saww> iNToIT - DMZPlus mode is upnp enabled right? <- no
[10:12] <pixil> It takes processing power to do all that stuff.
[10:12] <Edward123> can't you only have 1 DMZ by definition?
[10:12] <Edward123> right enough nerdery for now, i'm going to relax - thanks for the help gu
[10:12] <pixil> Sophisticated equipment can do it
[10:12] <phisher1> ehh
[10:12] <Saww> iNToIT - pixil said yes :P *fight fight fight!!*
[10:13] <omnisient> am i lagged
[10:13] <iNToIT> DMZPlus mode has nothing to do with UPNP
[10:14] <pixil> Right
[10:14] <pixil> uPNP hasn't really proved it's worth a darn.
[10:15] <iNToIT> upnp works fine for me. I just prefer to set ports manually
[10:15] <iNToIT> and it's a pain in the butt to troubleshoot when someone else is relying on
[10:15] <pixil> It's a lazy approach to a simple 'problem'.
[10:16] <iNToIT> indeed
[10:16] <Saww> well it might be a laz approach, but when you reach a dead end you don't have
[10:16] <pixil> You are not near a dead-end.
[10:16] <pixil> There IS a reason your set up is not working. :-)
[10:17] <Saww> my set up is workign :)
[10:17] <Saww> working*
[10:17] <iNToIT> Edward123 was the one with the problem
[10:17] <Saww> yup ^_^
[10:17] <pixil> 'You' was rhetorical in that context. ;p
[10:17] <Saww> i don't like to set it on either, but in some cases i could never find a bette
[10:17] <Saww> lol
[10:18] <Saww> (either/neither ? XD)
[10:18] <iNToIT> -n
[10:19] <Saww> :)
[10:21] <shcm33k> im just gonna throw in my 2c ... WOOOOOTT !!!! UPNP!!!
[10:21] <shcm33k> goodnight all :P
[10:21] * shcm33k has left the building.
[10:23] <nsfw> when designing drive usage for database servers, when only one raid set is ava
[10:23] <nsfw> because you really wouldn't be separating out the io :|
[10:23] <Saww> speaking of upnp/dmzmode, brb
[10:29] <deww> nsfw: i would say the only thing that stands out is that having a separate par
[10:30] <nsfw> yeah
[10:32] <nsfw> bleh
[10:36] <nsfw> fark :|
[10:36] <nsfw> I should have ordered 2 more disks
[10:38] <deww> ya rly!
[10:39] <dingalin> sup deww
[10:39] <dingalin> Has anyone used a wrt54* as a wireless repeater
[10:43] <deww> not myself!
[11:00] <dingalin> I am so confused
[11:00] <Eyal> how register nick?
[11:00] <phisher1> Eyal: you cannot
[11:00] <dingalin> I connect the ethernet cable to my second router and the wireless radio wo
[11:01] <Eyal> ...why?
[11:01] <dingalin> actually it's not that it doesn't work because I still see the radio as "A
[11:02] <chains> what does the term 10.4.10.0/24 translate to?
[11:03] <chains> 10.4.10.0 - 10.4.10.255 ?
[11:03] <nsfw> woah
[11:03] <nsfw> chains
[11:03] <nsfw> you haven't been around in forever
[11:03] <IamKing> Eyal: for an explanation on why there are NO REGISTRATION SERVICES whatsoev
[11:03] <guns7007> whats a good app to tell my if my hdd is dead or if it can be revived
[11:03] <guns7007> bios isn't detecting it
[11:03] <guns7007> its the master and sole hdd in the comp.
[11:04] <phisher1> How would an app be able to detect it if your bios won't ?
[11:04] <nsfw> chains: and that's correct
[11:05] <guns7007> i wasn't sure if it could or not thats why i came here
[11:05] * wof is now known as Sn0q
[11:05] * Sn0q is now known as wof
[11:05] <phisher1> chains: google cidr ;)
[11:05] <guns7007> so if bios can't detect it i'm fucked huh?
[11:05] <phisher1> watch the language
[11:05] <guns7007> ok
[11:05] <phisher1> Either the drive is damaged or you have it hooked up incorrectly
[11:06] <phisher1> possibly a controller issue on the motherboard too
[11:06] <guns7007> i'll detach and reconnect it just incase of lose connection
[11:06] <phisher1> does the drive power on ?
[11:06] <guns7007> ya i hear it spin
[11:06] <phisher1> Was it working when it quit ?
[11:07] <guns7007> ya i had isntalled a different partition but i wanted to wipe the hdd so i
[11:07] <phisher1> you formatted it, and now the bios won't detect it?
[11:07] <phisher1> You didn't physically change or move anything ?
[11:07] <guns7007> nah
[11:08] <guns7007> windows was detecting it to install but then it would say it couldn't inst
[11:08] <chains> phisher1: i learned all this stuff one day
[11:08] <phisher1> If windows is detecting the drive, then the bios HAS to detect it.
[11:08] <chains> never had to use it
[11:08] <chains> so it escapes me at the moment
[11:09] <phisher1> chains: as with much, if you don't use it..you lose it =\
[11:11] <chains> yup
[11:11] <chains> and this is kind of useful information to have
[11:11] <chains> or know
[11:11] <chains> whether you use it or not :)
[11:11] <haxin> This question is for anyone who has experience with DD-WRT: I'd like to know
[11:11] <chains> haxin: on the LAN i don't think it matters
[11:12] <chains> you can specify a WAN port though
[11:12] <phisher1> ya theres usually an external port and an internel port
[11:12] <chains> hmm, didn't know you could specify an internal one
[11:12] <phisher1> well, my cheapo d-link has that option
[11:12] <phisher1> i've seen other routers w/ the same
[11:13] <chains> i thought we were talking about sshd.conf
[11:13] <phisher1> I'm guessing he's talking about his router
[11:14] <nsfw> yea dd-wrt is the router thing :P
[11:14] <chains> well i saw him mention that router model
[11:14] <nsfw> that's not so much a router model anymore
[11:14] <chains> but figured his question was more based on sshd configuration
[11:14] <nsfw> DD-wrt is a linux based router, lots of manufacturers have dd-wrt based model.
[11:15] <nsfw> and so you can take those and reflash with roms from like the dd-wrt project a
[11:15] <nsfw> that's what my assumption was
[11:15] <phisher1> i think the real question would be.. WHY
[11:15] <phisher1> you can configure sshd to listen on any port you want
[11:15] <nsfw> yeah
[11:15] <chains> yah but i didn't think you could configure it for internal ports
[11:15] <phisher1> eh ?
[11:15] <chains> i thought all systems were game on a LAN
[11:15] <dingalin> How come every body answered his dd wrt question but not mine?
[11:16] <phisher1> we don't like you
[11:16] <chains> unless the system had a firewall
[11:16] <dingalin> should of showered this week
[11:16] <chains> what was your question dingalin
[11:16] <phisher1> [09:30] < dingalin> Has anyone had experience with wrt54* routers or
[11:16] <phisher1> [13:00] < dingalin> I connect the ethernet cable to my second router
[11:16] <phisher1> [13:01] < dingalin> actually it's not that it doesn't work because I
[11:16] <chains> interesting
[11:16] <dingalin> figured out the first line
[11:16] <phisher1> that it?
[11:17] <phisher1> hehe those a re bit far apart
[11:17] <chains> i actually just went through this nightmare these past few months
[11:17] <dingalin> Yes, let me rephrase
[11:17] <chains> i had my router serving as a WAP
[11:17] <haxin> Let me reclarify: I want to adjust the ssh daemon on the dd-wrt OS itself; I
[11:17] <dingalin> I am now able to successfully authenticate, get an ip but I can not send a
[11:18] <chains> you have to turn it off as a DHCP server if you have another router on the n
[11:18] <dingalin> It's not a dhcp server, instead a dhcp forwarder
[11:18] <phisher1> dhcp forwarder?
[11:18] <nsfw> dingalin: You're probably putting them on the same subnet and fubaring routin
[11:18] <chains> haxin: in my experience, internally you can connect to whatever box you want
[11:18] <dingalin> yes, they are on the same subnet
[11:18] <nsfw> so let me guess
[11:19] <chains> haxin: externally, you need to specify the box/IP you want to access
[11:19] <nsfw> router 1 lan connection <-> router 2 internet connection
[11:19] <nsfw> correct?
[11:19] <dingalin> router 1 lan + wlan in one
[11:19] <haxin> Let me reclarify: I want to adjust the ssh daemon on the dd-wrt OS itself; I
[11:19] <nsfw> dingalin: RIght you're not getting what I'm saying
[11:20] <dingalin> yeah I am not
[11:20] <nsfw> dingalin: YOu're connecting a lan port ont he first router, to the internet p
[11:20] <dingalin> no
[11:20] <phisher1> haxin: i'm thinking you should just run the sshd's on different ports
[11:20] <nsfw> dingalin: What are you trying to accomplish overall exactly?
[11:20] <dingalin> the second router is not physically connected to anything
[11:20] <nsfw> wait
[11:20] <dingalin> I am trying to set up a repeater
[11:20] <nsfw> so why are you confused that you can't ping anything
[11:20] <dingalin> a wireless repeater
[11:20] <nsfw> what model routers are these?
[11:21] <haxin> I might have to but I'm hoping to avoid that as I'm yusing some third party s
[11:21] <dingalin> 1st router = a cisco 851w 2nd router = a wrt54gl
[11:21] <nsfw> well duh is all I can say
[11:21] <chains> heh
[11:21] <dingalin> duh? are you serious
[11:21] <dingalin> this has been done man
[11:21] <nsfw> the linksys routers are notorious for having problems acting as a repeater for
[11:21] <dingalin> this is using custom dd wrt54g router
[11:22] <dingalin> firmware rather
[11:22] <chains> i'm still not getting what he's trying to do
[11:22] <chains> i thought i did
[11:22] <dingalin> what should I use then
[11:23] <chains> dingalin: you just want to connect your wireless router to this other router
[11:23] <dingalin> Chains I am trying to expand my network wirelessly
[11:23] <chains> so you just want to use your wireless router as a switch and let your other
[11:23] * aloxa http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160200757501&ssPageName=S
[11:23] <chains> thats what it sounds like to me
[11:24] <dingalin> I want to use my second router as a client of the first wireless router an
[11:24] <chains> and to do this, all you need to do is turn off the DHCP server on the wirele
[11:24] <dingalin> like I said
[11:24] <dingalin> that's the first thing I did,
[11:24] <Treval> http://www.nabber.org/projects/geotrace/result.php?host=+83.72.128.190&whois
[11:25] <chains> once you do that, set an IP for that router you want to use as a switch, an
[11:25] <dingalin> I mean I don't need two dhcp servers, there is an option that lets you for
[11:25] <chains> then powercycle the routers
[11:25] <chains> make sure you're plugged into the right ports
[11:25] <dingalin> chains: On router #2 I already associated with router #1 wirelessly, and i
[11:26] <chains> and you can connect to router #2 but you just don't have internet?
[11:26] <dingalin> 1. Don't need to power cycle my cisco router 2. Ports? don't think so
[11:26] <dingalin> it's not about having internet
[11:26] <chains> what are you trying to accomplish then?
[11:26] <dingalin> DHCP server on router #1 is assigning an ip address from pool to router #2
[11:27] <chains> do you have it set to accept pings?
[11:27] <chains> some routers have an option to block them
[11:28] <chains> also, are you being assigned an address through router #2?
[11:28] * Anthrax0s hangs chains with his own chain... avoiding me eh!
[11:28] <chains> from router #1?
[11:28] <dingalin> firewall not enabled on router #2
[11:28] <jud> what's the best way to kill a seagull? i need something that can be obtained ea
[11:28] <chains> it'd be more specific than that
[11:28] <chains> mentioning pings
[11:29] <dingalin> router 1 does allow any traffic on vlan which contains all wireless/wired
[11:30] <chains> dingalin: are you sure you're on the same network as router #2?
[11:31] <dingalin> chains, connecting a wired laptop to router #2 to see if it forwards dhcp
[11:31] <dingalin> I doubt it will since I can't ping it
[11:31] <chains> well
[11:31] <chains> that would be the first step :)
[11:31] <chains> i thought you confirmed it was forwarding dhcp properly
[11:32] <chains> 14:25 < dingalin> chains: On router #2 I already associated with route
[11:32] <chains> it's hard to determine how much you already know, have done, etc
[11:32] <dingalin> wouldn't make any sense that the correct ip was assigned to this router #2
[11:33] <Treval> Networking, what a mind boggling concept. :O
[11:33] <chains> dingalin: it depends on the IP of router #2 and if you really did turn off D
[11:33] <dingalin> maybe I should make the second router a dhcp server?
[11:34] <chains> no
[11:34] <Treval> Pool1 excludes Pool2. <3
[11:34] <chains> make one a DHCP server, the one behind everything preferably
[11:34] <dingalin> dhcp server defenetely not set on this router 2, connected laptop no ip wa
[11:35] <chains> the way i had mine set up, i had my gay actiontec router as the DHCP server,
[11:35] <chains> dingalin: then something aint right if you're not getting an IP
[11:35] <Treval> So a B-address IP was given?
[11:35] <chains> you should be receiving an IP from your first router
[11:36] <chains> if your first router is set up as the DHCP server
[11:36] <chains> unless you're setting static ips anywhere
[11:36] <chains> what a pain
[11:36] <chains> heh
[11:36] <dingalin> I should, but I am not, dhcp is defenetely set on router #1
[11:36] <chains> this isn't that hard to do at all
[11:36] <chains> powercycle the linksys
[11:36] <dingalin> oh wait a sec
[11:36] <chains> here it comes...
[11:36] <chains> "i didn't know i had to turn it on!!!"
[11:37] <dingalin> on this laptop
[11:37] <dingalin> I set ip 10.10.10.0/24 and dg as 10.10.10.11 (assigned by dhcp from router
[11:38] <chains> yay
[11:38] <chains> you should receive that automagically though
[11:38] <dingalin> something is wrong though
[11:38] <chains> like i said, you may have needed to powercycle the linksys
[11:38] <dingalin> yeah, I did that
[11:39] <chains> then connect to the linksys with a system
[11:40] <nsfw> what IP were you getting before?
[11:41] <dingalin> well router #1 shows that the mac address of the wireless adapter on this
[11:41] <Mafaioz> wow
[11:42] <dingalin> but it seems like it's not assigning that ip with proper gateway because r
[11:44] <chains> you may need to set the gateway on router #2 to use router #1's
[11:44] <dingalin> that's awesome suggestion, I think I know how to do that brb
[11:45] * chains crosses his fingers
[11:45] <chains> don't forget the powercycle :)
[11:49] <soad> im trying to mount a image on a mac (using tiger), how do i enable auto mount
[11:50] <djslavin> i have a dumb question is there a way to have 2 different usernames on the
[11:50] <chains> yup
[11:50] <chains> if you tried, you'd know
[11:51] <chains> djslavin: which client?
[11:51] <djslavin> acidmaz
[11:51] <chains> wtf
[11:51] <djslavin> acidmax
[11:51] <chains> never heard of it
[11:51] <chains> heh
[11:51] <djslavin> whats a good client to use
[11:51] <ASk> crappy mirc script
[11:51] <chains> ah
[11:51] <chains> so mirc
[11:51] <djslavin> well im a n00b
[11:51] <chains> djslavin: /server -m irc.server.net
[11:52] <chains> that'll open a new status window for you
[11:52] <chains> within that and each subsequent window opened under that network you can cha
[11:53] <djslavin> thanks for helping someone with such a dumb question
[11:54] <chains> its ok, we've all been there at one time or another
[11:54] <chains> heh
[11:54] <chains> i think i asked that same question yesterday but with irssi
[11:54] <dingalin> no luck chains
[11:54] <chains> doh
[11:55] <chains> sometimes it takes time, patience, and a few resets
[11:55] <chains> at least thats what works for me :)
[11:57] <SuperDude> or a hammer
[11:57] <chains> i prefer explosives but whatever works
[11:57] <SuperDude> too much preparation
[11:57] <guns7007> if i try to detect my hdd in bios and it hangs when i do that is there any
[11:58] <chains> not if you have them readily available
[11:58] <guns7007> it doesn't say its not detected.....it leaves the information there that w
[11:58] <chains> guns7007: depends if you have it set up right
[11:58] <SuperDude> still, the placement, wiring, talking safe distance etc.
[11:58] <guns7007> the jumpers are right
[11:58] <chains> guns7007: easieset way would be to hook it up to a usb enclosure/adaptor
[11:58] <chains> and plug it into another system that way
[11:59] <guns7007> i'll have to put in inside this comp cause i don't got one of those enclos
[11:59] <OggyLappy> Hello from Hong Kong everyone
[12:01] <chains> OggyLappy: ltns
[12:01] <OggyLappy> chains
[12:01] <chains> last time i heard about you, you were constantly getting banned
[12:01] <OggyLappy> yas
[12:01] <chains> running some script
[12:01] <OggyLappy> of course
[12:01] <OggyLappy> thats me
[12:02] <chains> or someone else under your nick
[12:02] <OggyLappy> hehe
[12:02] <OggyLappy> Well the unix box is down right now
[12:02] <OggyLappy> will bring the unix box up again soon
[12:02] <chains> heh
[12:02] <OggyLappy> Im on vacation in hong kong
[12:02] <chains> i just picked up a bunch of older boxes but in good condition
[12:02] <OggyLappy> very nice up here ppl
[12:03] <chains> i bet
[12:05] <poolboy> has anyone here done any wiring in a sever room?
[12:05] <chains> once upon a time
[12:06] <pixil> poolboy: plenty
[12:06] <pixil> I've done low-voltage work and high-voltage work
[12:07] <poolboy> pixil, if you have a high density server cluster
[12:07] <poolboy> do you label the wires?
[12:07] <pixil> We don't have clusters here, but we label every wire.
[12:07] <poolboy> I'm talking like 100 blades in a server rack
[12:07] <pixil> power wires included.
[12:07] <poolboy> wow
[12:07] <pixil> It's a hassle
[12:07] <pixil> But when it comes down to quickly troubleshooting, it's important. :-/
[12:07] <poolboy> :(
[12:08] <pixil> The trick is to use a simple naming convention.
[12:08] <poolboy> Do you have redundant power and nics
[12:08] <poolboy> per server I mean
[12:09] <pixil> Power yes, NICs only on the maildrop.
[12:09] <poolboy> Then let's say for power, do you keep track of which wire is which
[12:09] <pixil> We do, yes.
[12:09] <poolboy> you label it pwr1 and pwr2?
[12:10] <poolboy> holy hell
[12:10] <poolboy> wow, just wow
[12:10] <pixil> yeah :-(
[12:10] <poolboy> there has to be a better system
[12:10] <poolboy> I understand the need
[12:10] <pixil> There is.
[12:10] <pixil> Virtualization.
[12:10] <poolboy> Hahahahah
[12:10] <poolboy> :)
[12:10] <pixil> Actually, I'm serious. :-)
[12:10] <poolboy> Yeah yeah
[12:11] <pixil> I will be surprised if clusters are still common in 5-10 years
[12:11] <poolboy> I am interested in learning about google's datacenters
[12:11] <poolboy> From what I understand, they use massive parallelism but the individual ser
[12:11] <poolboy> like, 800$ machines
[12:11] <poolboy> so I wonder how they approach the problem of a failed disk
[12:12] <poolboy> like, an admin gets the snmp alert but then what
[12:12] <pixil> There servers are stacks of $800 machines wired in parrellel. Or they stoppe
[12:12] <poolboy> have they?
[12:12] <poolboy> I don't know
[12:12] <dingalin> dell sells them servers
[12:13] <poolboy> anyway, I wonder how organizations with 10,000+ servers handle documenting
[12:13] <poolboy> Because I find it difficult to believe they can afford to spend the time la
[12:14] <estranger> they do
[12:14] <dingalin> Our company outsources the wiring and I am sure they do
[12:14] <dingalin> We even have full time staff to document the wiring within the department,
[12:15] <poolboy> hahaha
[12:15] <dingalin> Seen weird ass people around my Cube writing shit down on maps
[12:15] <nsfw> dingalin: They do
[12:15] <nsfw> typically every floor goes to a utility closet
[12:15] <nsfw> in that closet is patch panels for phone/data
[12:15] <poolboy> there has to be a better way
[12:15] <nsfw> the # on the patch panel corresponds to a # on the plate
[12:16] <poolboy> this is blowing my mind
[12:16] <dingalin> yeah
[12:16] <poolboy> I'm not documenting this crap
[12:16] <poolboy> I refuse lol
[12:16] <nsfw> wow
[12:16] <nsfw> you suck then
[12:16] <dingalin> I always wanted to see a tour of google
[12:17] <dingalin> chains: I made a forum post on ddwrt, I gave up
[12:17] <dingalin> for now
[12:17] <dingalin> but I'll figure it out
[12:17] <deww> poolboy: not documenting is only good for you as long as you remember it
[12:18] <adeon> I need help fixing a pc
[12:18] <adeon> Can some one assist me?
[12:18] <dingalin> if you need one to one assistance, there's ppl that charge by the minute
[12:18] <dingalin> best bet is to ask see if anyone answers
[12:21] <adeon> what?
[12:21] <adeon> I aint getting charged :p
[12:21] <adeon> This is a simple problem..
[12:21] <chains> help yourself by reading the topic first
[12:21] <adeon> *I think*
[12:21] <chains> and JUST ASK
[12:21] <adeon> Ok
[12:22] <poolboy> adeon, pm for my rates
[12:22] <chains> you'd think people were stepping onto a stage in front of millions
[12:22] <poolboy> lol
[12:22] <chains> i come in here and i just flat out paste my question
[12:22] <chains> hell, i usually do it in more than one channel at a time
[12:25] <poolboy> I've written an app to ask my questions in 25 channels on over 6 different
[12:26] <chains> heh
[12:26] <chains> still have it?
[12:26] <poolboy> hahaha
[12:26] <RDMutt> poolboy: how do you keep track of all the answeres?
[12:26] <RDMutt> ...answers*
[12:26] <poolboy> geez, I was kidding
[12:26] <poolboy> </sarcasm>
[12:26] <phisher1> not really funny
[12:26] <phisher1> cause there are plenty of people here that could actually do that
[12:26] <RDMutt> sorry... I just walked into this. I've been afk
[12:27] <chains> heh
[12:27] <chains> i don't think it would be hard
[12:27] <chains> at all
[12:28] <poolboy> sigh
[12:30] <adeon> OK
[12:30] <adeon> I have this PC. and its gets stuck at "Verifing pool Data"
[12:30] <adeon> when it boots.. it just gets stuck there... "Verifing Pool Data"
[12:31] <chains> sounds like you need a new pc :)
[12:31] <chains> next
[12:32] <poolboy> lol
[12:32] <omnisient> question
[12:32] <adeon> You serious!?
[12:32] <adeon> New PC?
[12:32] <poolboy> adeon, yeah
[12:33] <poolboy> adeon, that is typically a motherboard issue
[12:33] <poolboy> adeon, your flux capacitor is broken
[12:33] <poolboy> adeon, happened to me a few months ago
[12:33] <dingalin> flux capacitator, where have I heard that one before
[12:33] <IamKing> "Back to the Future" :P
[12:33] <chains> heh
[12:33] <IamKing> so you know he is completely full of shit
[12:34] <poolboy> lol
[12:34] <poolboy> they where using an intel mobo
[12:36] <Treval> Is it normal that computer stores sell complete non-functional RAM sticks be
[12:37] <Mafaioz> Nobodys perfect
[12:37] <arod> it's not abnormal.
[12:37] <Treval> I find it unprofessional.
[12:37] <nsfw> think about it, 1% flaw/failure rate
[12:37] <nsfw> if they have 100 sticks of ram, of them 1 would be bad
[12:37] <nsfw> it's not unprofessional
[12:37] <Treval> :P
[12:37] <arod> yeah that's really not unprofessional
[12:37] <jc`xl> whats a good razor tool for edging up ur mustache
[12:37] <nsfw> if anything, you are being unprofessional for freaking out about it som uch :P
[12:37] <arod> but 1% is too high still
[12:38] <jc`xl> like that cuts with precision
[12:38] <Treval> lol
[12:38] <jc`xl> and ur sideburns
[12:38] <nsfw> that was a made up # obviously
[12:38] <nsfw> for easy math examples
[12:38] <arod> i know.
[12:38] <Winner> jc~xl just google wtf
[12:38] <arod> just saying, if he was curious
[12:39] <Treval> :P k
[12:40] <absolute> is there a way to tell when i channel was created?
[12:40] <phisher1> absolute: /mode #channel
[12:41] <absolute> ah, i knew it was something easy like that.
[12:41] <absolute> thx phisher.
[12:41] <phisher1> yup
[12:42] <nsfw> oh man I remember that day in 2001 lol
[12:42] <nsfw> when everything went to shit here lol
[12:42] <phisher1> September ?
[12:42] <absolute> July.
[12:43] <phisher1> oh, #Help's 'creation' date
[12:43] <phisher1> t/o attempt I believe
[12:43] <phisher1> by some rogue op
[12:43] <nsfw> yup
[12:43] <nsfw> they actually held it for a little while too
[12:44] <absolute> then what happened?
[12:44] <nsfw> hahaha, it was resolved
[12:44] <absolute> chanfix?
[12:44] <absolute> ddos?
[12:44] <nsfw> pre-chanfix :P
[12:44] <phisher1> hehe, way before chanfix
[12:44] <absolute> :P
[12:44] <phisher1> all they had to do was split the server he was on and t/o
[12:44] <phisher1> but I believe they resolved it diplomaticly
[12:44] <phisher1> ..ie: gtfo or /kill
[12:45] <absolute> heh
[12:45] <iNToIT> more like "we know your ip, gtfo or feel out packets"
[12:45] <iNToIT> t/r
[12:45] <phisher1> this was even before ddosing was really an issue
[12:45] <nsfw> yeah then it was just a DoS attack ;)
[12:45] <nsfw> lol
[12:46] <phisher1> yah heh
[12:46] <phisher1> click.exe fear!
[12:47] <absolute> probably coulda nuked his win95 machine
[12:47] <absolute> heh
[12:47] <phisher1> oob attacks ftw
[12:47] <nsfw> ahahaahahahaha
[12:47] <nsfw> I miss those
[12:47] <absolute> haha
[12:47] <absolute> word.
[12:48] <absolute> phish, how's the idx site coming along?
[12:48] <phisher1> not my site
[12:48] <absolute> shield's?
[12:48] <SuperDude> a cylinder spinning along its longitudinal axis = propeller? drill?
[12:48] <phisher1> shield and phil's
[12:49] <absolute> ah
[12:49] <RDMutt> I have a large quantity of music sitting on a hard drive, the file paths are
[12:51] <Winner> now ddos is an issue because immature, cry baby angst prebuscant lil kids li
[12:51] <Winner> but that worthless feeling you feel phisher1, it'll never go away
[12:52] <phisher1> i'm perming him
[12:52] <phisher1> i'm tired of his shit
[12:52] <phisher1> its daily now
[12:53] <absolute> it'd be funny if we ddos'd him now
[12:54] <phisher1> someone log on and approve that
[12:55] <Primedeat> Hello, I am wondering what an upgrade to the TI-92 plus would be.. Anyone
[12:56] <pixil> phisher1: show me how again and I will. ;-)
[12:56] <phisher1> http://efnethelp.org/UN
[12:56] <phisher1> log in
[12:56] <phisher1> 1st step
[12:56] <nsfw> wrong place btw ;)
[12:57] <phisher1> eh ?
[12:57] <chains> if any of you have dirty screens:
[12:57] <chains> http://www.linein.org/media/screenclean.swf
[12:57] <phisher1> pixil asked
[12:57] <nsfw> Ohh my bad :P
[12:59] <absolute> Primedeat, http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productCategor
[13:02] <phisher1> damnit damnit damnit
[13:02] <phisher1> he should not be kicked
[13:02] <pixil> echo "scale=4;7*8.50" | bc
[13:02] <pixil> erm, blah
[13:02] <nsfw> ahahaha
[13:02] <pixil> phisher1: Assuming it already got approved?
[13:03] <phisher1> ya, that kick was some other weird problem
[13:03] <phisher1> sometimes he gets ignored like he should, sometimes not
[13:03] <phisher1> still trying to figure it out
[13:03] <nsfw> ah
[13:03] <nsfw> so there is a way to add exceptions?
[13:04] <phisher1> yes
[13:06] <Lasivian> ok, I need a new online game to amuse me, looking for recommendations
[13:06] <Lasivian> something without player-to-player conflict or competition would be best
[13:06] <Mafaioz> LFS
[13:07] <Mafaioz> Live for speed
[13:08] <pixil> Lasivian: Desktop Tower Defense is fun. Prolly not what you're after, though
[13:08] <BIJJ> does anyone know of a Software that allows me to convert songs into my nextel
[13:08] <pixil> BIJJ: Your nextel can likely play midi files
[13:09] <pixil> Or wav.
[13:09] <RDMutt> I have a large quantity of music sitting on a hard drive, the file paths are
[13:09] <pixil> That should get you going.
[13:09] <pixil> RDMutt: MediaMonkey
[13:09] <Lasivian> pixil: I find most games get horribly bloodthirsty
[13:10] <RDMutt> pixil: that's what I'm using now, I'll look into the feature more. I played
[13:10] <pixil> This is not a 'bloodthirsty' game at all
[13:10] <Lasivian> too much "poker" where the players are fighting each other, not enough "Bl
[13:10] <pixil> Lasivian: I hear that
[13:10] <BIJJ> ok so i still need to upload them to the phone.. what can i used
[13:11] <Lasivian> BIJJ: you might be able to send them in a text message, or you'll need a P
[13:11] <BIJJ> i dint get that option of text message with my contrac
[13:12] <pixil> RDMutt: Auto tag from filename doesn't do it?
[13:13] <pixil> BIJJ: You have the link wire?
[13:13] <RDMutt> pixil: I just played with it more, I figured it out. I was building it wrong
[13:13] <BIJJ> i have the usb cable
[13:13] <pixil> BIJJ: And that didn't come with software?
[13:13] <BIJJ> no
[13:14] <BIJJ> i bought that cable on the streets
[13:14] <BIJJ> with no software
[13:15] <Lasivian> BIJJ: Not much we can do for you then, that moves into Waez/Illegal territ
[13:15] <Lasivian> Warez that is
[13:15] <pixil> Lasivian: Not exactly, but close..
[13:16] <pixil> I'm sure there are unsupported ways of doing it.
[13:16] <Lasivian> pixil: I doubt Nokia gives their connection software away free
[13:16] <BIJJ> Lassivian sound bad , but im sure is not..
[13:16] <pixil> You'll have to find that information in the forums.
[13:16] <Lasivian> Motorola you just plug the thing in and it's an external drive
[13:18] <BIJJ> i just look for a software for my nextel on Ebay..
[13:18] <BIJJ> thanks guys
[13:31] <dumes> moin
[13:32] <dumes> hab da mal so nen frage ??
[13:32] <Anthrax0s> Habla ingles porfavor
[13:32] <dumes> was ??
[13:33] <Anthrax0s> que?
[13:33] <dumes> nur deutsch erstehen sry
[13:33] <dumes> +v
[13:33] <dumes> ^^
[13:33] <maherarar> Sprech doch Englisch.
[13:33] <dumes> lol
[13:33] <dumes> kann ich net
[13:33] <Anthrax0s> Mein leben@!
[13:33] <dumes> no sry späking englisch
[13:34] <dumes> :d
[13:34] <Anthrax0s> mal! muy mal!
[13:34] <dumes> kann mir woll einer sagen ob ich hier sowas wie nen channel bekomme ??
[13:35] <Anthrax0s> No you cannot
[13:35] <Anthrax0s> Not on efnet
[13:35] <Jaffa_> hi, do you know in Opera how to get rid of the page thumbnail popup when you
[13:35] <Mafaioz> try #help or #opera
[13:35] <Mafaioz> lol
[13:35] <Mafaioz> you are in helop
[13:36] <Mafaioz> omg, i got to get my eyes checked
[13:37] <SonyUSA> does that mean no illegal scripts?
[13:37] <SonyUSA> or no scripts in general? >_>
[13:39] * Jaffa_ is now known as J2
[13:39] <blunt`> so my laptop battery goes from 100-80%...then suddenly drops to 6%. i've tur
[13:40] <deww> blunt`: how long have you had your battery?
[13:41] <blunt`> a year + 3 weeks (aka the dell warranty just expired) lol
[13:41] <blunt`> i'd say 95% of that time it's been on AC power
[13:41] <deww> most batteries only have about 6 months warranty, but yes, time to look for a
[13:41] <deww> mew/new
[13:42] <deww> cats not involved
[13:42] <blunt`> lol
[13:42] <blunt`> ok - thank you very much
[13:42] <pixil> Nor are cows.
[13:43] <dumes> git dit auch einer der deutsch kann mit demm ich mich mal unter halten kann ?
[13:43] <dumes> weggen nen channel
[13:43] <dumes> !!!!!!!!!
[13:43] <deww> dumes: ni shao yingwen mah?
[13:44] <dumes> lol kann kein eglich
[13:44] <J2> go to school
[13:45] <dumes> lol hab ich meiner schulle kein englisch gelernt
[13:45] <dumes> :P
[13:46] <absolute> My cat has turned against me, how do I stop it?"
[13:46] <J2> weird
[13:46] <absolute> :P
[13:46] <phisher1> absolute: directly violating the rules?
[13:46] * phisher1 sighs
[13:47] <absolute> (:
[13:47] <LordX> Hey all, I used a keyfinder program to see what my Winxp CD-Key is. The key i
[13:47] <deww> you bought a PC from a large reseller like dell and they have their own
[13:47] <LordX> yeah it is a dell
[13:47] <phisher1> either the program is wrong or the copy of windows installed used a differ
[13:47] <deww> different versions of windows installed
[13:48] <deww> like XP home, vs XP pro
[13:48] <pixil> Yeah, OEM vs retail, etc
[13:48] <LordX> both the same version (xp pro oem)
[13:48] <deww> ok
[13:48] <phisher1> I have used programs like that before, and they did fail
[13:48] <phisher1> they reported straight up WRONG results
[13:48] <phisher1> but looked valid
[13:48] <LordX> deww - so its possible I have found Dell's MASTER winxp key?
[13:48] <nsfw> it's not a master xp key per say
[13:49] <Lindy_> deww someone was looking for an easynews oper
[13:49] <nsfw> dell and most of the big companies work off of a special royalty licensing met
[13:49] <deww> LordX: not really
[13:49] <LordX> just a massively liscenced one?
[13:49] <nsfw> what they do, is embed a special string into their hardware
[13:49] <deww> Lindy_: k. i'll prod that zit
[13:49] <nsfw> then they issue a single installation for dell. When you install xp using one
[13:49] <phisher1> eww
[13:49] <LordX> I want to reformat my system with an updated winxp pro OEM cd.... should I us
[13:49] <nsfw> that is able to detect that string int he hardware
[13:49] <Lindy_> :))
[13:49] <nsfw> the one on your pc
[13:50] <LordX> what would happen if I try to use the one I found?
[13:51] <deww> i don't think it would activate properly
[13:53] <LordX> man that makes me curious
[13:53] <LordX> almost makes me feel like running the install twice
[13:53] <deww> you can try it
[13:54] <deww> if it doesn't work, i think you can reenter it later
[13:55] <LordX> yeah true, the activation screen will say wrong key, and let you enter the ne
[13:58] <nsfw> correct it will make you enter a new key
[13:58] <LordX> so at that point I could put in the sticker key
[14:04] <astarv> whats going on, i cant connect to some websites, i got new laptop 1 week old
[14:04] <blanto> is there any web-based application that you can use to collaborate with some
[14:06] <Edward123> blanto, msn messenger has some built in features for application sharing
[14:07] <dev_> im a vegan and i just wanted to know if it was okay to eat my own cum or if th
[14:08] <Edward123> dev_, i would say no violation as you are a willing participant
[14:08] <Edward123> you can't ask a cow if it's up for milking, can you?
[14:08] <Edward123> but ultimately it depends on your motivations for becoming a vegan
[14:08] <dev_> what if i did it just because i wanted to get laid?
[14:08] <Edward123> you became a vegan to get laid?
[14:09] <astarv> girls dont like skinny pale guys
[14:09] <astarv> whats going on, i cant connect to some websites, i got new laptop 1 week old
[14:10] <Edward123> astarv, i doubt it's spyware, but do you have some software to protect ag
[14:10] <pixil> astarv: Does firefox act the same way?
[14:10] <astarv> firefox and explorer
[14:10] <astarv> im getting some sparware removers right now
[14:11] <Edward123> bit late after the moment, astarv - i hope you have anti-virus installed
[14:11] <astarv> i had norton, just deleted it, going to get invast
[14:11] <pixil> avast is pretty good
[14:12] <Edward123> i run AVG personal but aparently signatures get updated faster with scann
[14:12] <Edward123> or was that clam? i forget
[14:12] <pixil> avast's free version just doesn't have advanced stuff like email and snmp cra
[14:12] <Edward123> oh avast have a free version
[14:12] <Edward123> i didn't even know
[14:14] <OggyLappy> OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-C
[14:14] <solitude> Thanks for sharing?
[14:14] <Edward123> heh
[14:15] <Edward123> what's better, IRC or usenet?
[14:15] <phisher1> that's like asking what's better, a newspaper or television
[14:15] <pixil> heh
[14:15] <Edward123> yeah another good question
[14:15] <phisher1> they each have their advantages and disadvantages
[14:15] <solitude> theyre ... two different things?
[14:15] <solitude> whats better, apples or oranges?
[14:15] <Edward123> what's better, news paper or TV?
[14:15] <Edward123> oranges, solitude
[14:15] <Edward123> which do you prefer?
[14:1
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