Session Start: Wed Jan 23 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:30] <Hastor> hey what is the most current virus/adware scanner that would support win98?
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> trend micro's last years edition
[00:31] <Ghostwolf> don't think the newest one does
[00:31] <Hastor> is there a free trial of it? or is it the web based?
[00:32] <Ghostwolf> well they do have housecall which is webbased
[00:32] <Hastor> yeah i didnt think that would work on 98
[00:32] <Ghostwolf> no trial of the real thing I'm aware of
[00:32] <Hastor> yeah im looking for something free im only here a week heh
[00:35] <Ghostwolf> wait
[00:35] <Ghostwolf> wtf
[00:36] <Ghostwolf> weren't you supposed to be off dying?
[00:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:46] <ephemeral> in windows vista when i go to the restore feature it doesn't have an opti
[00:46] <ephemeral> how come?
[00:46] <ephemeral> whats the command for restoring to factory settings?
[00:47] <ephemeral> for comp being reverted to how it wsa exactly whne i first bought it
[00:47] <Ghostwolf> usually like shift-f8 I think
[00:47] <Ghostwolf> what brand of computer?
[00:48] <ephemeral> toshiba laptop
[00:48] <ephemeral> hmm no shift_f8 didnt do shit
[00:48] <Ghostwolf> older ones either came with a dvd to do so or you ad to make your own
[00:49] <ephemeral> this is brand new comp
[00:49] <ephemeral> should have the feature in it
[00:49] <Ghostwolf> newer ones use a 2ndary partition in which you have to push a key combo a
[00:49] <ephemeral> ya i believe f2 is bios
[00:49] <ephemeral> on this comp
[00:49] <ephemeral> but if the case is that u have to push key combo for factory restore
[00:49] <ephemeral> i have no idea what it could be
[00:49] <ephemeral> but i doubt thats it either
[00:49] <ephemeral> eh
[00:53] <Ghostwolf> google says f1
[00:53] <Ghostwolf> unconfirmed
[01:28] <Brydenn> hey ops... i know this isn't a question for IRC but i was wondering if you
[01:28] <Brydenn> i'm looking to water cool my computer system and would like to ask someone
[01:28] <Brydenn> any ideas?
[01:29] <Sixcaps> what do you need to know?got all your hardware?
[01:29] <Brydenn> well, i'm trying to pic out my radiator currently
[01:29] <Brydenn> i'm getting the swiftech pump
[01:30] <Brydenn> and i'm getting the D-Teck Fuzion water block for my CPU
[01:30] <Brydenn> just not sure what radiator i want
[01:30] <Brydenn> thinking about the Black ICE GTX
[01:30] <Brydenn> but not sure if i want the 2x or 3x
[01:30] <Brydenn> does it really have a huge impact on temps?
[01:30] <Sixcaps> try xtremesystems,just google it
[01:30] <Brydenn> lol already a memeber there bro
[01:30] <Brydenn> was hoping someone on IRC could help
[01:31] <Brydenn> i dont even know if they have an IRC channel
[01:31] <Sixcaps> nope
[01:31] <Sixcaps> they dont
[01:31] <Brydenn> ya didn't think so :(
[01:31] <Brydenn> there anywhere on IRC that i can meet people who do this sorta thing?
[01:34] <Brydenn> hmm lets see if we have a swear bot
[01:35] <Brydenn> FUCK you cock sucking jew ass mother fuckers. eat my shit! you're all a bun
[01:35] <Brydenn> lol
[01:35] <Brydenn> ya i'm bored
[01:35] <Brydenn> bye
[01:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:59] <Doomsday0> please help some one gotta no about macs
[01:59] <Ge64> whata
[02:00] <Doomsday0> does any one no ANYTHING about macs
[02:00] <Ge64> yese
[02:00] <Ge64> i do
[02:00] <Doomsday0> how much?
[02:00] <Ge64> enough
[02:00] <Ge64> whats your question
[02:01] <Doomsday0> can u help?
[02:01] <Ge64> maybe if you ask your question
[02:02] <Doomsday0> i have a mac mini i delted the macintosh HD and a (?) came up so i had no
[02:03] <Ge64> so i assume you bought mac os x leopard
[02:03] <Doomsday0> yes and tiger as well
[02:03] <Ge64> and when you put the dvd in the drive and reboot, what happens?
[02:03] <Doomsday0> black screen with a - in the top corner
[02:04] <Ge64> it stays like that?
[02:04] <Doomsday0> yes for hours
[02:04] <Ge64> have you tried holding option
[02:05] <Doomsday0> what is that key ive always wondered
[02:05] <Doomsday0> is it C?
[02:05] <Ge64> its alt
[02:05] <Doomsday0> oh
[02:05] <Ge64> try putting in the leopard dvd, and rebooting while holding alt
[02:05] <Doomsday0> will the mac dvd allow me to erase the ntfs partition and format back to
[02:06] <Ge64> yes
[02:06] <Doomsday0> ok ill try now thx
[02:24] <Raindm> If i have a static ip.. can i give premission to someone to access some fold
[02:27] <MornStar> uhm, you don't need a static IP
[02:27] <MornStar> just helps if you want them to have continual access :)
[02:27] <Raindm> yes, i want continual access
[02:27] <MornStar> you wanting to setup an ftp server? or do you mean like remote-admin acces
[02:27] <Raindm> so on win xp pro i right click and press web sharing?
[02:27] <Raindm> tab
[02:28] <MornStar> never used it, sorry
[02:28] <Raindm> remote admin access
[02:29] <Raindm> how do i do remote admin access?
[02:29] <Raindm> so he can browse a folder i specific like it was on his own computer and rea
[02:29] <Raindm> like file sharing
[02:29] <MornStar> download radmin i guess
[02:30] <Raindm> raindm?
[02:30] <MornStar> what kind of files?
[02:30] <Raindm> excel
[02:30] <Raindm> or csv files
[02:30] <MornStar> to download/upload these files.. or to manipulate those files remotely?
[02:30] <Raindm> manipulate only
[02:30] <MornStar> so basically to use excel on your computer?
[02:31] <Raindm> upload/download would be nice. butnot must
[02:31] <Raindm> yes!
[02:31] <Raindm> :)
[02:31] <Raindm> exactly
[02:31] <MornStar> ah okay
[02:31] <MornStar> you'll need some remote desktop software then, and alot of bandwidth/ram :
[02:31] <Raindm> but i can work on other things while the user update the excel files
[02:32] <Raindm> i just want him to be able to browse a folder on my pc and be able to updat
[02:32] <MornStar> specify what you mean by update files
[02:33] <Raindm> if he press .xls file (in the shared folder) it will open the xls file on hi
[02:33] <Ge64> i think you mean that the user runs excel on his own pc but then accesses the
[02:33] <Raindm> Ge64:i think we said the same thing? :)
[02:33] <Raindm> Ge64: right..
[02:34] <MornStar> so just setup an ftp server, http://www.bpftpserver.com/
[02:34] <MornStar> he can download the excel files off you
[02:34] <MornStar> then he can do whatever
[02:34] <MornStar> and upload/overwrite the file back to you
[02:34] <Raindm> oh, i thought Windows XP pro has some sharing options built in for such case
[02:34] <Ge64> is it on a local network
[02:35] <Raindm> no.. Ge64: On local network i know i can do share folder..
[02:35] <Raindm> over internet.
[02:35] <blc> Raindm: live messenger has shared folders..
[02:36] <Ge64> raindm
[02:36] <Raindm> thats an option.. blase
[02:36] <Raindm> blc
[02:36] <Raindm> yeah Ge64?
[02:36] <Ge64> go to google and type 'mount ftp folder xp' and click the first link. theres h
[02:37] <Raindm> sounds nice Ge64
[02:37] <Ge64> after it is set up the user can just see the files in my computer by going int
[02:37] <blanto> moo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium - (6.0.6000) up: 12hrs 57
[02:37] <Ge64> and so can also see them from excel
[02:38] <blc> blanto: do that again... i dare you to try to fill this chan with unnecesary cr
[02:39] <blanto> will you kick me if i do it again?
[02:39] <Ge64> dude
[02:39] <Ge64> its a new world record
[02:39] <Ge64> vista 12h uptime
[02:39] <blanto> lol
[02:39] <blanto> really?
[02:40] <blc> what do you think?
[02:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:40] <Raindm> Ge64: i must use bulletproof ftp server?
[02:41] <blc> Raindm: no..
[02:41] <blanto> blc suggests serv-u ftp
[02:41] <blc> Raindm: i suggest you search places like download.com for free editions..
[02:41] <blc> blanto: go toss a sald
[02:41] <blc> salad even
[02:41] <Raindm> ok, thanks
[02:41] <Raindm> can ms live share FOLDERS or only files?
[02:42] <blc> from what i've seen, folders
[02:42] <Raindm> nice.. could be easy soulation or what ge64 said
[03:31] <tkd> my computers fan makes this annoying noise, but when i take the case off, the n
[03:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:42] <Ge64> resonance
[03:42] <Ge64> turn down ur fan speed a bit, that might help
[03:42] <Ge64> oh, it might be your harddrive
[03:43] <Ge64> which causes the side panel to shake against the case or whataever
[03:43] <Ge64> get a decent case
[04:03] <Cheezels> hey
[04:04] <Cheezels> anyone alive ? :p
[04:04] <MornStar> people usually only answer if they can help..
[04:04] <Cheezels> oh okay, well i'm wondering if its safe to leave my laptop on for days ?
[04:05] <MornStar> 'safe' ?
[04:05] <Cheezels> does it overheat easily ?
[04:05] <MornStar> I dunno, does it?:P
[04:05] <MornStar> just don't leave it on anything flammable
[04:05] <Aiges> It won't damage the laptop as long as it isn't in an extremely hot/cold/moist
[04:06] <Cheezels> it will not affect the laptops performace overtime, will it ?
[04:06] <Aiges> They reach about the same temperature if they're on for 5 hours as when they'
[04:06] <Aiges> Not really. No different to leaving a computer on for days, and I've left min
[04:06] <Cheezels> it doesnt get too hot, infact it's just a little warm because i set the po
[04:06] <Cheezels> i'm just worried it'll spoil overtime
[04:07] <notjames> is it possible to use dynamic values in css? i'm trying to center a div on
[04:24] <^Omi^> dudes
[04:25] <^Omi^> wat is the commat to op?
[04:32] <test5> what makes a cd to be bootable ? does the pc trying to run a file ? autoexec.
[04:34] <test5> Hola?
[04:35] <test5> i
[04:35] <^Omi^> dudes
[04:35] <^Omi^> how can i let the botto op an person
[04:35] <Metshrine> Read the documentation for your bot
[04:35] <Metshrine> we dont help with bots, if you read our topic
[04:35] <^Omi^> and secures the channel from ppl who takes the nick
[04:35] <Metshrine> [Registering Nicks/Channels On Efnet]: You cant do this, we do not offer
[04:38] <Sixcaps> what do you guys think about this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc
[04:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:56] <iNToIT> Sixcaps, a few reviews mention that the 8800 series cards are a bit snug in
[05:02] <Sixcaps> i have an 8800gtx going in there
[05:05] <iNToIT> Sixcaps, the antec p180 v1.1's or p192's don't interest you? They're solid,
[05:05] <iNToIT> spending $300+ on a *case* that doesn't have anything exceptional about it o
[05:06] <iNToIT> especially for a case that doesn't have the best cooling
[05:08] <Sixcaps> true
[05:08] <iNToIT> I would suggest getting a solid $90 case (on sale or whatever) with excellen
[05:08] <iNToIT> then you'll have both excellence and uniqueness
[05:10] <Sixcaps> the p180 i dont really like,i have the lian li v1000b
[05:11] <Sixcaps> i'm tired of now
[05:11] <Sixcaps> i think it's v1200
[05:12] <Ge64> can you help me
[05:13] <Ge64> i neeed to lose weight but i keep being an ass and eating too many snacks etc
[05:13] <Ge64> i need to be hit by a car or somet
[05:15] <Sixcaps> over eating is passport to death
[05:15] <iNToIT> heya ge64. thanks for trolling and logging for lulz. we appreciate your inte
[05:17] <iNToIT> actually, you've been participating in here so sayeth teh scrollback. instea
[05:18] <MinWu> hello
[05:19] <MinWu> i need help
[05:19] <MinWu> anybody?
[05:20] <iNToIT> with?
[05:20] <Ge64> um, lol, not only do i not feel that i fit the description as stated in your m
[05:20] <iNToIT> please be detailed
[05:20] <iNToIT> Ge64, we like silence between serious questions in here.. odd 'eh? :)
[05:20] <Ge64> indeed
[05:20] <iNToIT> (helps to let the serious questions stand out)
[05:21] <MinWu> okay im not sure what happend but i was banned from several rooms
[05:22] <MinWu> and i uninstalled mIRC, reinstalled it and changed my info so i could get bac
[05:22] <MinWu> can anybody hear me?
[05:22] <Ge64> yes
[05:22] <Ge64> then what
[05:22] <iNToIT> Ge64 and to address your actual issue.. i'll let you in on something that re
[05:23] <iNToIT> I had found alot of my juices and sodas had HFCS and something about HFCS ma
[05:23] <Ge64> @intoit, thanks
[05:23] <iNToIT> ^^
[05:23] <Ge64> well actually ive switched to drinkingn mostly water actually, and have gotten
[05:23] <MinWu> well, im not sure what is going on, when i log in or whever it tells me to do
[05:23] <Ge64> but the countless points of sale keep tricking me itno eating every time i pas
[05:23] <iNToIT> me too, but the cravings tend to hit ya. I can't eat certain foods without s
[05:24] <MinWu> its say something about pong cookies, lol
[05:24] <iNToIT> MinWu paste in here the exact error message
[05:25] <iNToIT> and if you're getting banned, perhaps they don't want you in that channel?
[05:25] <MinWu> To connect type /QUOTE PONG cookie
[05:26] <iNToIT> so do it
[05:26] <MinWu> and just in general the status window is all different than it was before
[05:26] <iNToIT> if a server says to type /QUOTE PONG cookie ..
[05:26] <iNToIT> it means it's a test to see if you're a bot or not
[05:27] <MinWu> i did, but can you tell me whats going on? okay...
[05:27] <iNToIT> they want you to type that command when you see it, to validate yourself
[05:27] <iNToIT> and was that on efnet or another network?
[05:27] <iNToIT> most efnet servers don't do that
[05:27] <iNToIT> though I don't know the policies of all the servers so..
[05:27] <MinWu> it had all this religeos stuff
[05:28] <iNToIT> also, if you're banned.. you would need to change your host/domain.. not jus
[05:28] <iNToIT> And that's all the help I'll give you in avoiding a ban
[05:28] <iNToIT> just keep in mind, some bans exist due to something someone else on your isp
[05:29] <iNToIT> and may not have anything to do with you
[05:29] <iNToIT> but you still cannot do anything about them without talking to the ops of th
[05:29] <MinWu> in ascii art theres a thing that says irc.blessed.net
[05:29] <iNToIT> and if you cannot contact them, it's a "tough luck" situation
[05:29] <iNToIT> MinWu, then that's an efnet server
[05:30] <iNToIT> MinWu, just use a different efnet server
[05:31] <MinWu> i just want to get back to the original server i was on, i dont really know a
[05:32] <MinWu> can i get banned from a server?
[05:32] <MinWu> ?
[05:33] <Ge64> yes but thats unlikely
[05:33] <Ge64> unless its for a reason
[05:33] <Ge64> or in my case, cuz teh opers are incompetent
[05:33] <MinWu> whats the default server?
[05:34] <iNToIT> MinWu there is no default efnet server. You connect to the server on that ne
[05:34] <iNToIT> trya few, find one you like
[05:34] <iNToIT> when it screws up too often, find another
[05:34] <MinWu> i dont remember choosing anything, i only choose what room i was in
[05:35] <iNToIT> all the servers on the same network will see the same thing on the same chan
[05:35] <MinWu> oh
[05:35] <iNToIT> MinWu you can choose what server you connect to with the /server command
[05:35] <iNToIT> MinWu, go read through www.irchelp.org
[05:35] <iNToIT> d'oh
[05:36] <iNToIT> MinWu, go read through www.irchelp.org to learn more about irc
[05:36] <iNToIT> :)
[05:36] <MinWu> okay
[05:36] <iNToIT> it might help
[05:38] <MinWu> i really like irc, my only concern was that i would have to change my name an
[05:39] <MinWu> i guess im banned from some rooms but i can still use others
[05:39] <MinWu> what is a server?
[05:39] <iNToIT> MinWu, it's all explained on irchelp.org
[05:40] <iNToIT> no reason for us to type out all the basics when you can read them for yours
[05:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:40] <iNToIT> also, mirc has a help file as well
[05:41] <iNToIT> you may want to read it as well
[05:41] <iNToIT> good luck
[05:45] <MinWu> ty, gb
[05:51] <notjames> is there a way to get a div to show up in the middle of the screen relativ
[05:51] <Ge64> in webpages?
[05:52] <Ge64> whaat do you mea by user, you mean the vertical positionn of the scrollbar?
[05:54] <notjames> yeah
[05:54] <haptiK> i have a huge boner
[05:55] <haptiK> a giant throbbing hard on
[05:55] <Ge64> oooh sekcsi
[05:56] <Ge64> :(
[05:56] * Ge64 snaps it
[05:56] <notjames> Ge64: at the moment i can get it centered with left: 50%; top:50%; but tha
[05:56] <Ge64> so you want the div to scroll down with the page, so it stays on the same spot
[05:57] <Ge64> behind it
[05:57] <Ge64> ?
[05:57] <Aiges> How much would 100 francs have be worth in the early 19th century?
[05:58] <Aiges> Or what website might have such information
[05:58] <notjames> sorta maybe.. it's hidden most of the time cos it's got a "loading" gif in
[05:59] <haptiK> feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel the heat burning you up ready or not! some
[06:00] <jackal^> haptiK, do you have a quesiton?
[06:00] <Ge64> ok. tbh i dont know, you might need to use javascript
[06:01] <haptiK> jackal^: yes, What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
[06:02] <notjames> yeah i thought i might have to. annoyingly i think i have the code that wo
[06:03] <notjames> maybe i'll just give up
[06:03] <haptiK> jackal^: are you going to answer my fucking question seeing as you're sooooo
[06:04] <jackal^> no, im not going
[06:06] <Aiges> haptiK, internet tough-guy
[06:06] <Ge64> notjames, just look for a js or webscriptingn whatever chan.
[06:06] <Ge64> i love this mac os x kernel panic screensaver :D
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[06:11] * Kosh|Away is now known as KosheeN
[06:11] <blame-baw> what wrong
[06:11] * blame-baw is now known as a-cu
[06:12] <Ge64> lol.
[06:12] <CNU> join flood thingie?
[06:12] <a-cu> (~_~!)
[06:12] <a-cu> dame
[06:12] <Ge64> it locked up my mirc
[06:12] <a-cu> make me lagiing
[06:12] <Ge64> but then again, this is my mircbox
[06:12] <Ge64> p2 or somet laptop
[06:13] <CNU> what's the point with join flood btw?
[06:13] <deww> some people are silly
[06:13] <a-cu> i dont know bro
[06:14] <MornStar> cus after they join-flood they usually spam
[06:14] -RBL:#Help- Channel locked temporarily due to flood.
[06:14] <haptiK> fuck
[06:14] <haptiK> that was fun
[06:15] <MornStar> Topic says nothing about swearing?
[06:15] <blue_moon> so
[06:15] <Ge64> lol
[06:16] <MornStar> :/
[06:17] <haptiK> What did Pilate do to proclaim his innocence of Jesus' death?
[06:18] <haptiK> What is the area of a regular hexagon with sides 1 in. long?
[06:20] <haptiK> From what language did the word 'robot' come?
[06:20] <Ge64> that would be
[06:20] <blue_moon> the maturity level in the channel really dives once the swearing starts,
[06:20] <haptiK> What NHL team was swept by Detroit in the 1952 Stanley Cup Finals?
[06:20] <akirch> flooding sucks
[06:21] <haptiK> The star Upsilon Andromedae has how many planets revolving around it?
[06:21] <akirch> MornStar, I'd suggest it's a bad idea to swear here
[06:21] <Sixcaps> anyone ever ordered a replacement dvd from microsoft?
[06:21] <MornStar> I gathered that, akirch
[06:21] <akirch> blue_moon, and we both know being an ass is my job :)
[06:22] <Ge64> @sixcaps. lolno,
[06:22] <Sixcaps> i wanted to know if they send you everything like in the retail package
[06:23] <Ge64> is the fact that through intensive use my XP license key became unreadable to
[06:23] <blue_moon> akirch :)
[06:23] <blue_moon> I thought you could only auth an xp license 5 times
[06:25] <deww> Sixcaps: you get a cd usually. i've only ordered cds from a volume licensing p
[06:26] <Sixcaps> oh ok
[06:26] <phisher1> holy crapolie
[06:27] <Sixcaps> the guy on the phone said i was going to ger 32/64 bit DVD's
[06:27] <solitude> yes and no blue_moon
[06:27] <solitude> only 5 times by internet
[06:27] <blue_moon> ohh
[06:27] <solitude> Unlimited by phone.
[06:27] <blue_moon> good to know
[06:27] <Sixcaps> i just dont know if it'll come in the retail packaging
[06:27] <solitude> (as far as empirical testing shows anyway)
[06:27] * solitude shops for engagement rings
[06:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[06:46] * DigitalUn is now known as DigitWork
[06:50] <MrMeth> Will Remote Assistance work if the peron in safe mode?
[06:51] <MrMeth> Person is in(*)
[06:51] <Ge64> doesnt safe mode disable networking by default
[06:52] <MrMeth> Safe Mode has networking if u choose so
[06:52] <Ge64> never tried tbh
[06:54] <MrMeth> also... Is there anyway to make a RA file so that I can use it when the pers
[06:54] <MornStar> yeah it's called 'Safe mode with networking' lol
[06:54] <MornStar> it's a separate function
[06:55] <MrMeth> it will work in Safe Mode MornStar?
[06:55] <MornStar> sounds 'illegal' MrMeth, read topic
[06:55] <MrMeth> um
[06:55] <compdoc> try it - just reboot and try it
[06:55] <MornStar> MrMeth, if you choose the 'Safe mode with networking' from advanced boot o
[06:55] <MrMeth> how the fuck is fixin someones computer remotly ilegal
[06:55] <MornStar> usually F8 or F5 :/
[06:55] <MornStar> MrMeth, you made it sound like you wanted access without them knowing
[06:56] <MrMeth> no
[06:56] <MrMeth> I want access when they not at the computer, SO I can retsart their computer
[06:57] <MornStar> I don't think you can restart a computer remotely and keep control :o not
[06:57] <solitude> erm, remote assistance requires the recipients consent
[06:57] <MrMeth> know any app like RA that will alow me to restart an come back with control?
[06:58] <MrMeth> sucks... I jus restarted, now I gotta wait till 5pm when they home to finish
[06:58] <MrMeth> gonna be like this for a few days
[06:59] <solitude> set up remote desktop.
[06:59] <MrMeth> Is it free?
[07:01] <solitude> its part of windows XP pro/
[07:01] <MrMeth> hrm, can't seem to find it on my PC
[07:01] <deww> MrMeth: vnc
[07:01] <MrMeth> all I see is Remote Assistance
[07:02] <MrMeth> ill look at VNC
[07:02] <deww> you can't do it now, but you can set up something like "one click vnc" later o
[07:02] <MrMeth> coo, it works like RA?
[07:02] <deww> yea
[07:03] <deww> try it at home
[07:03] <MrMeth> gettin it now
[07:03] <MrMeth> thx
[07:06] <MrMeth> what would be the dif between the Enterprise Edition an the Normal one?
[07:07] <MrMeth> well nm, I jus bought the Enterprise Edition
[07:07] <deww> enterprise edition of what?
[07:07] <MrMeth> RealVNC
[07:08] <deww> there are free ones
[07:08] <deww> look for those
[07:08] <MrMeth> o
[07:08] <MrMeth> :/
[07:08] <compdoc> UltraVNC is the fastest Ive tried. and its free
[07:08] <deww> i didn't even know realvnc was charging now
[07:09] <MrMeth> the free version doesn't allow Desktop Scaling
[07:09] <compdoc> scaling?
[07:09] <MrMeth> Fit to window or Actual size
[07:10] <compdoc> doesnt sound useful
[07:10] <MrMeth> I use 640x480 so it's very usefull to me
[07:10] <compdoc> ouch
[07:10] <MrMeth> Im 10 feet+ away from my monitor
[07:11] <MrMeth> 23" sittin in the lazyboy
[07:11] <phisher1> I'm guessing you don't do much programming. =\
[07:11] <MrMeth> none
[07:12] <MrMeth> phisher1: be easy on MsMeth, she gonna be in here lots, an she a HoodChick s
[07:12] <phisher1> she'll be getting kicked out as well then
[07:12] <phisher1> You both know the language. Use it.. or lose it.
[07:12] * nsfw is now known as Life^
[07:12] * Life^ is now known as nsfw
[07:13] <MrMeth> heh
[07:14] <iNToIT> MrMeth, is she running xp?
[07:14] <iNToIT> MrMeth, you can create a custom remote assistance with permissions
[07:14] <iNToIT> for full control
[07:15] <iNToIT> no need for console side approval
[07:15] <iNToIT> read into the info on it
[07:15] <iNToIT> (windows remote assistance)
[07:15] <Aiges> How much would 100 francs have be worth in the early 19th century?
[07:16] <phisher1> worth in what comparison ?
[07:16] <iNToIT> Aiges compared to what
[07:16] <phisher1> it would be worth exactly.. 100 francs
[07:16] <compdoc> hard to say how much a dollar was worth 200 years ago
[07:17] <helpmeple> someone tell me if they think i got a good or decent deal on a dell compu
[07:18] <phisher1> we'll need a few more details..
[07:18] <Aiges> Compared to modern currency. Say, the US dollar for simplicity
[07:18] <helpmeple> 650 us dollars
[07:18] <helpmeple> Inspiron 531s,Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (2.60GHz, 512Kx2
[07:18] <helpmeple> 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz Upgradeable to 4GB
[07:19] <helpmeple> Dell USB Keyboard, Dell Optical USB Mouse, NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Integra
[07:19] <MrMeth> iNToIT: thx
[07:20] <helpmeple> 3.5in Floppy Drive, Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition, English,
[07:20] <phisher1> helpmeple: monitor ?
[07:20] <helpmeple> no
[07:20] <phisher1> hmrf, not a terribly bad deal
[07:20] <phisher1> cheap video card though
[07:20] <compdoc> helpmeple, seems a little expensive, but it should be a good system
[07:20] <phisher1> small hdd for these days..
[07:20] <helpmeple> looking for faster processing then anything, not to worried about hraphic
[07:20] <helpmeple> 250 is enough
[07:21] <helpmeple> i have another 320 external
[07:21] <Ge64> help me think of awesome ways to get glined (not from efnet)
[07:21] <phisher1> Ge64: not here.
[07:21] <helpmeple> its cheaper to buy the monitor seperately
[07:21] <phisher1> i'm not asking you for your opinion
[07:21] <phisher1> you are asking for ours..
[07:21] <phisher1> =\
[07:21] <helpmeple> free next da shippin
[07:21] <phisher1> With the monitor and a bigger hdd, that deal would be spot on..
[07:22] <helpmeple> but thats not realistic with dell
[07:22] <phisher1> otherwise, you got an average, if not below average deal.
[07:22] <helpmeple> because i want a 20in widescreen
[07:22] <helpmeple> they gave me 2 grand
[07:22] <helpmeple> but i wasnt trying to overload
[07:22] <helpmeple> adn exceed a large total
[07:23] <helpmeple> i dont think ill use vista either, heard bad stuff about it, gonna replac
[07:23] <rhelic> helpmeple: wait, laptop or desktop?
[07:23] <helpmeple> desktop
[07:24] <rhelic> helpmeple: Vista gets a bad rep, as long as you have 1gb or more of ram, and
[07:24] <phisher1> that sidebar is a menance
[07:24] <rhelic> helpmeple: not to mention Vista SP1 is almost finished, and that makes a lot
[07:24] <phisher1> i've seen it eat up enormous amounts of memory for no good reason
[07:24] <rhelic> phisher1: and a waste of ram, it's like a 80MB wallpaper
[07:24] <helpmeple> exactly
[07:24] <rhelic> phisher1: some widgets are horrible leaky
[07:25] <phisher1> obviously
[07:25] <phisher1> i've seen that thing user well over 200MB
[07:25] <phisher1> use*
[07:25] <helpmeple> everything included in windows xp i completely wash out
[07:25] <helpmeple> and install my on apps
[07:25] <helpmeple> vista is a waiste for music creation
[07:25] <rhelic> helpmeple: but if you give it the power it needs, and disable those two thin
[07:25] <helpmeple> u want as much processing and memory available
[07:25] <rhelic> helpmeple: well ram is dirt cheap, and so aren't CPUs
[07:26] <helpmeple> right
[07:26] <helpmeple> i can get 2 more gbs for 100$
[07:26] <rhelic> helpmeple: and if you get ahold of those upcoming 45nm Core 2 Duos, even mor
[07:26] <rhelic> helpmeple: you need to run 64bit if you want to have 4gb
[07:26] <helpmeple> is it possible to upgrade the processor?
[07:27] <rhelic> helpmeple: well only certain mobos support the 45nm, but any Core 2 Duo mobo
[07:27] <rhelic> helpmeple: I'd say go with Vista x64 and a 4gb setup, disable the crap, and
[07:28] <drewbuntu> vista 64 with 4gigs of ram does run nice
[07:28] <rhelic> although there will be a Windows 2009, so 1.5yrs away for the Vista replacem
[07:28] <drewbuntu> its the best 64bit desktop i have used
[07:28] <helpmeple> whats the most consuming thing about vista
[07:29] <drewbuntu> consuming as in resources?
[07:29] <rhelic> helpmeple: Aero and the Sidebar widget thingy
[07:29] <helpmeple> aero?
[07:30] <rhelic> Aero is the 3d layer for the GUI
[07:30] <rhelic> if you disable it, Vista looks almost exactly the same, and doesn't burn up
[07:30] <rhelic> especially if you have an inefficient GPU, which is 97% of the cards out the
[07:30] <Matt`> I have 2 PCS here side by side, 2 nics in one, 1 in the other, and a switch,
[07:30] <helpmeple> all its ognna be used for is music creation
[07:31] <rhelic> Matt`: buy a KVM
[07:31] <helpmeple> no internet or nuthin
[07:31] <helpmeple> ill proabably uninstall 90% of the equipped software
[07:31] <helpmeple> and disable those 2 features
[07:31] <helpmeple> widget sidebar thing just sounds lieka shortcut bar? am i right?
[07:32] <drewbuntu> kinda
[07:32] <helpmeple> wuts it truly used for
[07:32] <drewbuntu> it has clocks and wearhter and other tools available for it
[07:32] <rhelic> helpmeple: no, they're little apps that show things like football scores, we
[07:32] <drewbuntu> thery are widgets
[07:32] <drewbuntu> like gadgets
[07:32] <helpmeple> basically worthless, for me at least
[07:32] <drewbuntu> but for windows
[07:33] <rhelic> and it's really just a wallpapr like thing you can click, so when you're usi
[07:33] <rhelic> just as silly as having a video wallpaper
[07:33] <solitude> vista still sucks, unless you nlite it.
[07:33] <solitude> And I stand by that.
[07:33] <drewbuntu> i like the clock and calendar and wearther ones
[07:33] <drewbuntu> weather
[07:33] <solitude> (this is relative to XP Pro SP3 and XP X64 SP1)
[07:33] <helpmeple> so i should be ok after i disable those 2 things and get rid of the junk
[07:33] <solitude> (well, SP3 RC1)
[07:33] <rhelic> helpmeple: well those two things are the junk, that's 95% of anybody's probl
[07:34] <helpmeple> would there be significant difference if i used newest xp pro 64bit then
[07:34] <drewbuntu> performance problems
[07:34] <helpmeple> like i truely ave nuthin on this one now besides music software and inter
[07:34] <drewbuntu> xp 64 is not as nice as vista 64 in performance
[07:34] <rhelic> drewbuntu: perf issues are game specific, and the file copy issues have been
[07:34] <helpmeple> maybe some other apps liek nero ro so fourth
[07:34] <solitude> drewbuntu, citation please.
[07:35] <rhelic> helpmeple: Nero are slimeballs and iirc make you buy the latest version, I k
[07:35] <drewbuntu> citation?
[07:35] <rhelic> for?
[07:36] <solitude> [15:34:30] <drewbuntu> xp 64 is not as nice as vista 64 in performan
[07:36] <drewbuntu> yeah
[07:36] <helpmeple> ok
[07:36] <solitude> Yeah, citation.
[07:36] <helpmeple> lets hold on
[07:36] <helpmeple> lets define
[07:36] <helpmeple> performance
[07:37] <drewbuntu> at work, all the vista 64 work way better then XP 64 did
[07:37] <drewbuntu> once you turned off aero
[07:37] <solitude> (Proof or its hearsay)
[07:37] <drewbuntu> well, i bring some of the devs at work in here and they can say for thems
[07:38] <helpmeple> and with performance, what do you guys do at work
[07:38] <drewbuntu> 20 devs, 16 decided to go with vista 64
[07:38] <rhelic> what ppl don't realize, starting with XP, Windows does a lot more pre-cachin
[07:38] <drewbuntu> day to day shit, most people have like 15 apps open at once
[07:38] <rhelic> Vista outperforms XP in non gaming scenarios for usage
[07:38] <rhelic> drewbuntu: and I'd trust those guys above some random tool in #help
[07:39] <helpmeple> ok lets look at it on my part
[07:39] <drewbuntu> i always go off personal experiences anyways
[07:39] <helpmeple> right
[07:39] <helpmeple> and thats what i wanan show n example of
[07:39] <drewbuntu> if i really want to decide, i run my own tests
[07:39] <helpmeple> true
[07:39] <rhelic> when I ran Vista in a 4gh INSIDE of VMWare, it felt faster than my local cop
[07:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:40] <drewbuntu> i havent even tried vista in our vmware yet
[07:40] <rhelic> err 4GB box
[07:41] <helpmeple> at the same time, the type of apps i will be running, some are not compat
[07:41] <rhelic> I mean, in some ways Vista is like the WinME of the NT kernel, but most of i
[07:41] <drewbuntu> helpmeple: that hopefully will improve with time
[07:41] <rhelic> helpmeple: how can any "app" not be compatible with Vista?
[07:41] <rhelic> the only things that don't work with Vista are certain low level apps
[07:41] <helpmeple> music production related apps
[07:42] <rhelic> helpmeple: those aren't low level
[07:42] <helpmeple> virtual instruments, software sequencers
[07:42] <rhelic> unless you can prove they don't work, that's FUD
[07:42] <drewbuntu> yeah, there are some apps that still dont work right
[07:42] <helpmeple> http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html
[07:42] <drewbuntu> but that is more the fault of the 3rd party creator
[07:42] <helpmeple> randomly that one there
[07:42] <rhelic> drewbuntu: examples?
[07:43] <drewbuntu> i have no examples off the top of my head
[07:43] <rhelic> helpmeple: where does it say doesn't work with Vista
[07:43] <helpmeple> under system requirements
[07:43] <rhelic> and btw, there's something ironic if your name is Vista and you don't work w
[07:44] <rhelic> helpmeple: nowhere does it say "DOES NOT WORK WITH VISTA"
[07:44] <rhelic> it only says XP because they haven't updated their webpage, silly boy
[07:44] <helpmeple> did you look under compatibility
[07:44] <rhelic> yea, and?
[07:45] <drewbuntu> rhelic: http://oit.nd.edu/msvista/issues.shtml examples
[07:45] <helpmeple> thats the only version out
[07:45] * rhelic puts the dunce cap on helpmeple
[07:45] <helpmeple> dont things have to be made to be compatible with a new operating system
[07:45] <helpmeple> liek vista
[07:46] <rhelic> helpmeple: umm, no
[07:46] <rhelic> Vista is XP, with stuff added
[07:46] <drewbuntu> no its not
[07:46] <helpmeple> lol
[07:46] <drewbuntu> vista is alot deeper than that
[07:46] <helpmeple> ok lets see
[07:46] <helpmeple> what is the true advancement in vista
[07:46] <helpmeple> then xp
[07:46] <drewbuntu> rhelic: where are your articles supporting that hteory?
[07:46] <rhelic> ok Vista in 2003 based, with a new video layer, taken out of the kernel, a n
[07:46] <helpmeple> workin with wise
[07:47] <deww> are bmp files easier to decode than jpg or does it take less processing power
[07:47] <helpmeple> besides its "speed of performance"
[07:47] <drewbuntu> BMP are not compressed, JPG are
[07:47] <drewbuntu> compression uses CPU
[07:47] <deww> !
[07:47] <drewbuntu> or more CPU
[07:47] <deww> takes up more space tho
[07:47] <drewbuntu> yep
[07:47] <drewbuntu> same with wav vs mp3
[07:47] <deww> i wonder why my mp3 player chooses to support bmp instead of jpg when it is ca
[07:48] <rhelic> deww: maybe it doesn't have enough available RAM
[07:48] <deww> it does
[07:48] <drewbuntu> does it support GIFs?
[07:48] <rhelic> deww: RAM not ROM
[07:48] <deww> rockbox on it decodes jpg fine
[07:48] <deww> drewbuntu: nope
[07:48] <drewbuntu> thats lame
[07:48] <rhelic> in order to decode a compressed format, you need the ram of the jpg AND the
[07:49] <deww> sansa e260 version 1
[07:49] <rhelic> so using BMP uses less ram
[07:49] <rhelic> although I do agree, it should just do JPG
[07:49] <deww> the little device is pretty powerful
[07:49] <deww> :D
[07:49] <helpmeple> wut kinda mp3 player
[07:49] <deww> <deww> sansa e260 version 1
[07:50] <helpmeple> 4gb
[07:50] <deww> yes
[07:50] <helpmeple> basically liek a ipod
[07:50] <helpmeple> but cheaper
[07:50] <helpmeple> ha
[07:51] <rhelic> drewbuntu: hmm, some of those items on the Vista list are disturbing
[07:51] <helpmeple> ipods overpriced
[07:51] <rhelic> but they're so sexy
[07:51] <deww> i've nothing against other people owning ipods
[07:51] <helpmeple> are there any things that are annoying in vista? like automated features
[07:51] <helpmeple> excuse the language
[07:52] <helpmeple> me enither
[07:52] <rhelic> helpmeple: well the UAC gets annoying
[07:52] <helpmeple> i liek the newer samsungs with touchscreen
[07:52] <helpmeple> user account?
[07:53] <rhelic> helpmeple: google it
[07:53] <helpmeple> was reading on wiki
[07:54] <helpmeple> far as i read it helps authorize app using?
[07:54] <helpmeple> or some shyt
[07:54] <rhelic> of course you could say, UAC is the punishment you get for running Windows a
[07:54] <helpmeple> i would only have 1 account
[07:54] <rhelic> when you should be running as a user and right clicking an icon and RunAs
[07:54] <helpmeple> and iw ould be the only 1 using this computer
[07:55] <rhelic> helpmeple: ugh no, admin rights isn't about who's using it
[07:55] <rhelic> it's about WHAT you run
[07:55] <rhelic> run a web browser as admin, it parses some file, which runs binary code, and
[07:55] <rhelic> I run all my apps in a user sandbox in XP, I'm admin, but my programs aren't
[07:57] <helpmeple> its liek 50 50 to me
[07:57] <helpmeple> im so experienced with xp but vista sounds liek it performs well? but it
[07:57] <drewbuntu> helpmeple: dual boot
[07:58] <helpmeple> dual?
[07:58] <drewbuntu> yeah
[07:58] <drewbuntu> format your main drive into 2 parts, and install XP then install vista on
[07:58] <drewbuntu> go back and forth
[07:58] <helpmeple> wut version of vista do you use
[07:58] <Jiterstep> yo
[07:59] <rhelic> Home Premium
[07:59] <helpmeple> mine has home basic, so its proabbaly less of a hassle to maintain then ?
[08:00] <drewbuntu> just less included apps
[08:00] <helpmeple> good thing
[08:00] <drewbuntu> is it home basic 64?
[08:00] <rhelic> basic has no Aero, so you're already better off :)
[08:00] <helpmeple> uhhhh
[08:00] <helpmeple> wohoo
[08:00] <rhelic> helpmeple: yea, if you're going 4GB, you'll want x64
[08:00] <drewbuntu> indeed, otherwise youll only see about 3.2 gb
[08:01] <helpmeple> it desnt say in my order
[08:01] <helpmeple> thanks dell!
[08:01] <helpmeple> ha
[08:01] <helpmeple> thats insane
[08:02] <helpmeple> to need that much ram
[08:02] <helpmeple> to use windows
[08:02] <drewbuntu> not really
[08:02] <helpmeple> i eman wut do i truely need 4gb for? for widnows speaking
[08:02] <drewbuntu> its the way OS and hardware have been working for years
[08:02] <pixil> You don't.
[08:02] <drewbuntu> they capabilities and the requirements double every so many years
[08:02] <pixil> 2GB, in my opinion is sufficient for Vista without Glass/Aero.
[08:03] <helpmeple> but i wouldnt be running aero
[08:03] <helpmeple> far as im concerned i wanan delete it
[08:03] <rhelic> pixil: he's doing music work, he would benefit greatly from 4gb
[08:03] <helpmeple> ya
[08:03] <helpmeple> im gonna get it pretty soon here
[08:03] <drewbuntu> pixil: he will be running some fairly intense programs making music
[08:03] <helpmeple> but i was just wondering
[08:03] <rhelic> helpmeple: it's not a program, it's a setting, you don't delete it :P
[08:03] <helpmeple> i mean a 2gb minimum
[08:03] <pixil> rhelic: That may be. His question was "why does windows need 4GB of ram".
[08:03] <helpmeple> right, maybe not need
[08:03] <rhelic> Windows doesn't, but your 200MB WAV files you have do
[08:03] <helpmeple> but reccommend
[08:03] <drewbuntu> true, it doesnt per say, but its nicer with it
[08:03] <helpmeple> lol
[08:04] <rhelic> hell, with 64bit, you can op to get 8gb of ram :)
[08:04] <pixil> So, 4GB is recommended because you're producing music, not because Windows ne
[08:04] <helpmeple> it only holds up to 4gb
[08:04] <rhelic> exactly
[08:04] <helpmeple> oh ok
[08:04] <rhelic> helpmeple: get a mobo that supports 2GB sticks
[08:04] <helpmeple> didnt know u were speakin on my own sbject
[08:04] <rhelic> helpmeple: and get a SATA hard drive too
[08:05] <drewbuntu> sata300
[08:05] * Matt` is now known as Mattvixen
[08:05] <helpmeple> i install my apps on the hd and run my libraries and stuff on the externa
[08:06] <helpmeple> one vsti has 11gb of material
[08:06] <compdoc> you going to build a pc instead?
[08:06] <helpmeple> no i ordered off dell.com
[08:06] <helpmeple> custom
[08:06] <helpmeple> sorta
[08:06] <compdoc> cool
[08:06] <drewbuntu> im surprised you dont use a MAC to do music production
[08:07] <rhelic> there's no advantage to the Mac, there use to be a long time ago
[08:07] <helpmeple> im not familiar with macs
[08:07] <rhelic> but ppl stick with what they knew, and why the music industry still is mostl
[08:07] <compdoc> dont think the bran matters for music
[08:07] <drewbuntu> it mostly doesnt
[08:07] <compdoc> macs used to have an edge in graphics
[08:08] <rhelic> now that MIDI has gone USB, even less reason to use a Mac
[08:08] <compdoc> *brand
[08:08] <helpmeple> i dont needa graphic power house
[08:08] <drewbuntu> but i have been around enough music producers and DJs and studios to know
[08:08] <helpmeple> the one i have should be enough
[08:08] <rhelic> all the major production apps have equal PC versions...
[08:08] <rhelic> it's just like the graphic design world, that use to be Mac too
[08:09] <rhelic> now I'd say graphic design is 50/50, or more in PC's favor
[08:09] <drewbuntu> well, not that macs are really just PCs now, there is no hardware advanta
[08:09] <drewbuntu> not = now
[08:09] <helpmeple> im just running fl studio and adobe audtion for creation wise, running vs
[08:09] <rhelic> true, and at least the Mac prices are more reasonable than they use to be
[08:10] <rhelic> drewbuntu: if you like to dabble with whatever random app there is, XP might
[08:10] <rhelic> if you run all commercial software, Vista will be fine
[08:11] <drewbuntu> there is no rhyme or reason to what apps work and what apps dont
[08:11] <drewbuntu> its all up to the 3rd party provider though
[08:11] <endcontra> I have a Linksys router, and I am unable to login to the router via the d
[08:11] <drewbuntu> many apps had what they needed to change their code or release patches
[08:12] <drewbuntu> endcontra: try another browser or computer
[08:12] <helpmeple> rhelic your saying xp could be a better saolution even based on drews opi
[08:12] <helpmeple> possibly speaking
[08:12] <rhelic> endcontra: well the firmware password IS the login password
[08:12] <rhelic> helpmeple: hey I was the one pushing Vista too
[08:12] <drewbuntu> lol
[08:12] <rhelic> helpmeple: but hell, maybe XP is just better for you
[08:12] <helpmeple> although the only final way to find out is use vista
[08:12] <helpmeple> oh
[08:12] <helpmeple> lol
[08:13] <rhelic> helpmeple: like I said, it depends if you like to use random music apps, or
[08:13] <endcontra> tried two browsers....other "computers" are an Xbox and an iphone
[08:13] <drewbuntu> helpmeple: yes, you are right, the only way to truly find out is to exper
[08:13] <helpmeple> i mean overall, is vista a complete different operating system then xp, w
[08:13] <rhelic> helpmeple: well I think the most important thing is lots of ram, and lots of
[08:13] <drewbuntu> endcontra: try booting to a linux LIVECD with a browser installed and try
[08:13] <rhelic> helpmeple: XP -> Vista differences rate around 98 -> XP
[08:13] <aloxa> 1080p VS 1080i ?
[08:14] <rhelic> aloxa: that's not a question
[08:14] <drewbuntu> 1080P
[08:14] <helpmeple> im gonna chat live with dell now and ask wut version it comes with
[08:14] <helpmeple> i neevr used 98
[08:14] <helpmeple> i used 95 when i was younger
[08:14] <rhelic> helpmeple: the only catch about x64 is that you need a 64bit driver for your
[08:14] <helpmeple> driver from where?
[08:14] <aloxa> which is better?
[08:14] <rhelic> aloxa: 1080p of course, P is twice of I
[08:15] <drewbuntu> most recorded HD is P most live is I
[08:15] <rhelic> aloxa: but in reference to TVs, unless you have a 50" screen, you won't see
[08:15] <rhelic> 50" or larger
[08:15] <aloxa> i want 32"
[08:16] <aloxa> for playing 360 ..nothing else
[08:16] <helpmeple> go to circuitcity
[08:16] <rhelic> helpmeple: the drivers are on the setup disk, and/or the company's website,
[08:16] <helpmeple> they have a 50" samsung
[08:16] <helpmeple> for liek 900 1000
[08:16] <drewbuntu> isnt the 360 only 720i anyways?
[08:16] <endcontra> I appreciate the help drew, but Im looking for a solution, not an impract
[08:16] <helpmeple> no
[08:16] <rhelic> aloxa: well the 360 only outputs 720p, games don't run in 1080p, some do in
[08:16] <aloxa> no
[08:16] <helpmeple> its 1080 also
[08:16] <helpmeple> hd input
[08:16] <rhelic> helpmeple: the HDMI cord doesn't mean it's automatically 1080p
[08:16] <helpmeple> gotta buy special cables for the hd
[08:16] <aloxa> <rhelic> WONG with hdmi you can play 1080p
[08:16] <helpmeple> it says
[08:16] <helpmeple> i think
[08:16] <rhelic> aloxa: the games don't actually run in 1080p
[08:17] <helpmeple> i dunno i dont own 1
[08:17] <helpmeple> im a ps3 fan
[08:17] <rhelic> aloxa: if it outputs 1080p, then it's only resampled, which isn't any better
[08:17] <helpmeple> even though it was stolen from my househould
[08:17] <helpmeple> lol
[08:17] <drewbuntu> endcontra: well, everything you have tried didnt work, and i am suggestin
[08:17] <rhelic> aloxa: because if the games actually ran at 1080p, they'd be REALLY jerky
[08:17] <aloxa> so.. you know what i must use for my 360?
[08:17] <aloxa> why jerky?
[08:18] <drewbuntu> higher resolutions drop FPS
[08:18] <rhelic> helpmeple: ps3 fan? sux2be you, ps3.ign.com vs 360.ign.com .. the PS3 has ~
[08:18] <rhelic> aloxa: it isn't jerky, I'm just telling you 360 games run at 720p
[08:18] <rhelic> Geomeotry Wars is the only 360 game that runs higher, 1080i
[08:18] <aloxa> so 360s games only play with 720p ? not more?
[08:18] <rhelic> aloxa: does your 360 have HDMI outptu?
[08:19] <aloxa> yea
[08:19] <rhelic> aloxa: that's correct
[08:19] <aloxa> ps3's games?
[08:19] <rhelic> aloxa: well no matter what TV you get, use HDMI, it's better
[08:19] <helpmeple> socom confrontation, cant wait
[08:19] <rhelic> PS3 games are 1080p, but techincally, buth systems don't run 720p nor 1080p,
[08:19] <endcontra> I dont have a Linux LiveCD, and if I did, it wouldnt solve the problem...
[08:19] <aloxa> really?
[08:20] <rhelic> but overall, if you stand rightt against the TV, PS3 games are more defined
[08:20] <rhelic> yea, Halo3 actually runs at 600p internally, and then the 360 resamples it u
[08:20] <drewbuntu> endcontra: well, this will see if your computer has problems with the OS
[08:20] <aloxa> consoles are the same? i mean console make different?
[08:20] <rhelic> the PS3 is guilty of cheating too, tons of games cheat, in fact more games c
[08:20] <rhelic> aloxa: ??
[08:20] <drewbuntu> and linux live CD are free and are available at every university's FTP si
[08:21] <RBL> Download Ubuntu | Ubuntu @ http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | Kubuntu -
[08:21] <aloxa> 360 and ps3 are the same techincally?
[08:21] <rhelic> aloxa: I'm saying the 360 outputs 720p, the PS2 outputs 1080p, but when you
[08:21] <rhelic> aloxa: no
[08:21] <rhelic> err PS3
[08:22] <aloxa> ps3 is better?
[08:22] <rhelic> no, it's a horrible system imho
[08:22] <rhelic> it just happens to output a higher HD resolution
[08:22] <aloxa> ps2 outputs 1080p LOL
[08:22] <aloxa> 360 the best
[08:22] <Sixcaps> damn,now you do a search to find someone on yellowpages and they want to ch
[08:23] <rhelic> Sixcaps: "John Doe, Syracuse, NY" on google works well
[08:23] <Sixcaps> is there any good free one?i know there used to be good ones for free searc
[08:23] <Sixcaps> it didnt for me
[08:23] <rhelic> Sixcaps: then it's not listed
[08:23] <drewbuntu> Sixcaps: www.anywho.com is decent
[08:23] <drewbuntu> but if its not listed, its not listed
[08:23] <Roketto> does efnet have the nickserv commands for registering a nick
[08:23] <rhelic> no
[08:24] <drewbuntu> Roketto: no services
[08:24] <aloxa> so tell me the best model for hd lcd
[08:24] <drewbuntu> i love my samsung 32inch
[08:24] <Roketto> how about a vhost
[08:24] <rhelic> aloxa: well the best is probably Samsung, but that costs a lot
[08:24] <aloxa> samsung? lg? sony?? which is the best?
[08:24] <phisher1> Roketto: no vhost services
[08:24] <rhelic> I have a 42" LG, I think it's great
[08:24] <drewbuntu> Roketto: to get a vhost purchase a shell account and run psybnc
[08:24] <helpmeple> im gonna buy a tv off dell.com also
[08:24] <helpmeple> lol
[08:24] <drewbuntu> NO
[08:24] <aloxa> i thing 32" is the best size for 360:)
[08:25] <drewbuntu> dont buy TV from dell
[08:25] <helpmeple> why
[08:25] <rhelic> aloxa: bigger is better!
[08:25] <rhelic> helpmeple: umm why?
[08:25] <aloxa> 40" the best?
[08:25] <Sixcaps> anywho found it and redirected me somewhere to be charged
[08:25] <Sixcaps> crazy
[08:25] <helpmeple> because they gave mt 2,000$
[08:25] <helpmeple> lol
[08:25] <rhelic> aloxa: buy what you can afford
[08:25] <Roketto> k,. I never see any '&' user status's on the network is '@' the highest?
[08:25] <rhelic> Roketto: yes
[08:25] <drewbuntu> Roketto: yes
[08:25] <drewbuntu> & is used with services
[08:25] <aloxa> so 1st is samsung. second?
[08:26] <drewbuntu> LG is good
[08:26] <aloxa> give 300 or 400 pounds...
[08:26] <Roketto> and can everyone who is a '@' can see if anyone is whois'ing them?
[08:26] <drewbuntu> so are the new sonys
[08:26] <drewbuntu> Roketto: nope, only opers can see who is whoising
[08:26] <rhelic> aloxa: Samsung, Sony, LG
[08:26] <Roketto> server operators?
[08:26] <rhelic> Roketto: no
[08:26] <drewbuntu> a network actually has to specify users can see that, by default its on o
[08:26] <aloxa> and tell me a good size
[08:26] <drewbuntu> yes, server or network opers
[08:27] <aloxa> 38?
[08:27] <helpmeple> pick me one rhelic
[08:27] <Roketto> okay, thanks for help
[08:27] <rhelic> aloxa: buy what you want, I can't tell you what to buy
[08:27] <helpmeple> ni bigger then a 50 no smaller then a 40
[08:27] <helpmeple> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~c
[08:27] <drewbuntu> aloxa: pick the size that works for your room
[08:27] <helpmeple> 80 inches
[08:27] <helpmeple> lol
[08:27] <rhelic> helpmeple: pick your own
[08:27] <aloxa> mm.. i have infocus projector in my room and it works for my room:P
[08:28] <helpmeple> no you pick i
[08:28] <MrMeth> I go with a 10 Foot projector
[08:28] <helpmeple> all these tvs are made by dell?
[08:28] <aloxa> sony is toooo expensive
[08:28] <helpmeple> sony tvs blow
[08:28] <helpmeple> get a mistubishi or samsung
[08:28] <aloxa> skyline
[08:28] <MrMeth> I thought Sony made Monitors/Tv's for Dell
[08:29] <MrMeth> I have a 61" RCA it's great
[08:29] <drewbuntu> dell stopped "making" their own TVs recently
[08:30] <drewbuntu> and said they will drop out of the TV market all together near the end of
[08:30] <helpmeple> i dont know if i trust a 42inch sitting on a stand with 2 large dogs bein
[08:30] <drewbuntu> heh
[08:30] <drewbuntu> watch their tales
[08:30] <drewbuntu> tails
[08:30] <helpmeple> rottweiler mix and a american pitbull terrier
[08:30] <drewbuntu> my downstairs TV is mounted on a arm to the wall
[08:30] <helpmeple> disaster
[08:31] <helpmeple> i think my sub would knock it off the wall
[08:31] <drewbuntu> lol
[08:31] <helpmeple> im only in a condo
[08:31] <helpmeple> next door is empty and other side neighbor also makes music
[08:31] <helpmeple> so i win
[08:32] <aloxa> thanks ..i will stay to my infocus projector:p
[08:33] <aloxa> if i wll buy lcd from ebay there is a chance to fake me?
[08:33] <helpmeple> would it be efficient to buy dell ram ?
[08:33] <Sixcaps> dell ram is expensive
[08:33] <Sixcaps> buy elsewhere
[08:33] <Sixcaps> newegg or something
[08:34] <compdoc> might as well buy a new lcd
[08:34] <helpmeple> what would be expensive?
[08:35] <helpmeple> ya im buying a dell lcd 20in widescreen for 200
[08:35] <drewbuntu> get a samsung 22in for 220
[08:35] <drewbuntu> on newegg
[08:36] <helpmeple> really
[08:36] <helpmeple> widescreen?
[08:36] <drewbuntu> i LOVE my samsung 22in monitor
[08:36] <drewbuntu> yeah
[08:36] <drewbuntu> no dead pixels, easy to see, even in lighted areas
[08:37] <helpmeple> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Memory_Upgrades/productdetail
[08:37] <drewbuntu> i never bought samsung before until just this last year, now i got 2 TVs
[08:38] <helpmeple> 225BW
[08:38] <helpmeple> how tall does the screen sit from the touching bottom
[08:38] <helpmeple> IS IT ADJUSTABLE?
[08:38] <helpmeple> looks mighty damn high
[08:38] <drewbuntu> its adjustable
[08:39] <helpmeple> kewl
[08:39] <drewbuntu> goes from 2 inch from the table to like 8 inches from the table
[08:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:41] <helpmeple> is 50 bucks expensive for that dell memory stick
[08:42] <nsfw> all of dells memory is expensive
[08:43] <EmmaB> why do I have a K line of different servers here???
[08:44] <Mafaioz> doing something your not suppose to do ?
[08:44] <jackal^> whats the msg
[08:44] <EmmaB> nope
[08:45] <Mafaioz> Message when your beeing killed is?
[08:45] <EmmaB> K - lined (banned)
[08:47] <EmmaB> nvm
[08:49] <helpmeple> whoa
[08:50] <helpmeple> i fucked myself
[08:51] <Yoisers> naggers
[08:51] <helpmeple> the processor i got is 100 bucks on here
[08:52] <compdoc> thats not that bad
[08:52] <helpmeple> for 60 more AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socke
[08:53] <compdoc> I have a 4200+ x2, and its plenty fast for me
[08:53] <helpmeple> but then memory changes
[08:54] <MrMeth> Windsor? thas the name of the Town I live in
[08:54] <helpmeple> lol
[08:55] <helpmeple> where do you live
[08:55] <MrMeth> Windsor Nova Scotia
[08:55] <MrMeth> Canada
[08:56] <compdoc> nice little subnet mask cheat sheet: http://www.globalknowledge.com/train
[08:57] <MrMeth> Home of the Largest Pumpkin in the world, Oldest Counrty Fair in North Ameri
[08:57] * KhaOZzZz is now known as KhaOZ
[08:57] <MrMeth> Oldest Private School in North America
[08:58] <MrMeth> Exactly halfway between the North Pole and the Equator :>
[09:01] <T-O> hey whats the best brand for hdtv?
[09:02] <T-O> picture quality wise
[09:04] <MrMeth> Id say LG or Panasonic 1080 (jus a guess) Go for the Newest most expensive m
[09:07] <helpmeple> lol
[09:09] * akjsdfha is now known as Cool_baby
[09:11] <deww> T-O: last time i read, pioneer's plasmas had some really good reviews
[09:12] <nsfw> pioneer makes some awesome glass
[09:13] <hirogen2> comdoc
[09:13] <hirogen2> is that globalknowledge a freee site
[09:13] <hirogen2> and worth using in general?
[09:14] <compdoc> its a company that sells courses. thats from a spam they sent to me
[09:14] <hirogen2> ah ok
[09:14] <compdoc> IT Training
[09:18] <Deadglow> is there anyone who can help set up port forwading on a BRL-04EX router?
[09:20] <Deadglow> is there anyone who can help set up port forwading on a BRL-04EX router? i
[09:20] <compdoc> whats the port?
[09:20] <Deadglow> 26900
[09:21] <compdoc> that is an odd number, but its in the range that should be possible
[09:25] <RcRaCk> y0
[09:26] <compdoc> cant find a manual for the BRL-04EX that shows that section
[09:28] * DigitWork is now known as DigtalUn
[09:29] <HS^> im raised azs vegtarian andpeoples kept going how about meat is so great . so i
[09:30] <nsfw> HS^: Not in the mood for antics today :P
[09:30] <nsfw> take it somewhere else lol
[09:30] <khruschev> approximately how many SQL users would you have to have connected to your
[09:30] <HS^> what is antics
[09:30] <nsfw> HS^: Yeah you're done :P
[09:30] <HS^> and why is your mood against it
[09:30] <HS^> im in Holland located i dont know what antict is
[09:30] <nsfw> khafra: Depends on alot of things, no fixed amount it mostly has to do with d
[09:31] <khruschev> we have 8 users
[09:31] <khruschev> and we're just debating cost.. because scsi drives are like $500 a piece
[09:32] * ^Omi-_-zZ is now known as ^Omi^
[09:36] <pixil> !google define:antic
[09:36] <pixil> :-/
[09:36] <pixil> Gone anyway...
[09:38] <pixil> khruschev: What kind of scsi drives and what capacity are these?
[09:38] <khruschev> well, it's all proposal-stage at this point.. but our provider was lookin
[09:38] <^Omi^> dude i have this thing am instaling
[09:38] <^Omi^> they told me to install PP
[09:38] <khruschev> vs. 500gb sata2 seagate drives
[09:38] <^Omi^> pp.
[09:38] <^Omi^> how can i do that
[09:38] <^Omi^> pp. file
[09:40] <pixil> khruschev: I would go SAS vs SCSI, for sure. When you said "SCSI" I thought
[09:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[09:40] <pixil> SAS disks in a RAID configuration will outperform most SATA RAID configuratio
[09:40] <khruschev> by huge margins though?
[09:40] <pixil> Cost benefit analysis can't be done by anyone outside of your company. :-)
[09:41] <khruschev> well that's true. we're just not sure 8 users doing basic accounting que
[09:41] <pixil> I don't know what "huge margins" means.
[09:41] <pixil> There are a lot of variables involved.
[09:41] <khruschev> well like, greater than 30% improvement in performance
[09:41] <nsfw> heh, well SAS drives also aren't alot more expensive :|
[09:42] <pixil> In my testings, I haven't found 15k RPM disks to be worth the extra costs, ei
[09:42] <khruschev> the IT people had 300GB 15k SAS non-hot-plug sas srives at $940cdn per un
[09:42] <pixil> khruschev: It's possible you could see more than 30% improvement.
[09:42] <pixil> khruschev: Probably. Those are waste of money.
[09:43] <pixil> I've always bought hot-plug whenever possible, too.
[09:43] <khruschev> even the 10ks are $550+
[09:43] <pixil> But we have servers and array controllers that can take adavantage of that
[09:43] <khruschev> yeah
[09:44] <khruschev> is there anything 'wrong' with SATA drives in a small server config, apar
[09:44] <pixil> unfortunately, there's a lot involved in trying to guess an IRR on doing it.
[09:44] <khruschev> i'm just not sure i can convince the bosses that a 300gb @ $500+ is worth
[09:44] <pixil> For us, it was cost beneficial to implement a SAN. The san has a tray for fi
[09:45] <solitude> khruschev, heres an idea
[09:45] <Nooney> Is there chanserv on EFNet?
[09:45] <solitude> throw more disks at the problem
[09:45] <pixil> However, if SAS arrays were more mature, we would have gone SAS
[09:45] <solitude> just use raid 10 sata, and use a shedload of disks.
[09:45] <phisher1> Nooney: no
[09:45] <khruschev> solitude: that's an idea
[09:45] <phisher1> Nooney: no nick or channel registration
[09:45] <Nooney> o kk
[09:46] <pixil> khruschev: Are you out of space or addressing a speed issue?
[09:46] <khruschev> i've always found seagate's sata line to be very reliable
[09:46] <khruschev> pixil: we're looking at doing a new server from the ground up
[09:46] <khruschev> we have an old dell poweredge that is at least 8 years old
[09:46] <khruschev> and starting to fail
[09:47] <pixil> How many people access the data store?
[09:49] <khruschev> literally about 8-9
[09:49] <solitude> is that all?
[09:49] <khruschev> yeah
[09:49] <pixil> oh god
[09:49] <solitude> just use sata
[09:49] <pixil> sata
[09:49] <solitude> lots of sata.
[09:49] <pixil> heh
[09:49] <solitude> get yourself a nice £100 coolermaster stacker case.
[09:49] <solitude> put in 5-in-3 sata hotswap modules
[09:49] <solitude> that gives you 15 sata disks/
[09:50] <solitude> just have 7 by 7 raid 1+0/
[09:50] <solitude> and a spare space to hold a spare disk. ;)
[09:50] <pixil> blah
[09:51] <solitude> Unless pixil has a better idea. ;)
[09:51] <pixil> Well, you have the right idea, of course. :-)
[09:51] <pixil> I would personally buy a server that's already built, but I'd be servicing a
[09:52] <solitude> its for under 10 people :)
[09:52] <pixil> prolaints already have hot-swap modules.
[09:52] <solitude> otherwise, i agree
[09:52] <pixil> Yeah, *shrug*
[09:52] <pixil> It is nice to go back to server vendor when hardware fails, though
[09:54] <khruschev> yeah
[09:54] <khruschev> although, Dell has not been the best as far as a vendor goes
[09:59] <pixil> I've never used dell for server-level stuff.
[10:00] <pixil> Always sworn true to Proliants.
[10:00] <pixil> Solid equipment and relatively affordable.
[10:07] <solitude> yea, but a big one is overkill
[10:07] <solitude> tbh, server wise, Dell, HP and IBM are all on a par
[10:07] <solitude> (also, turnaround for a custom build will be faster.
[10:07] <solitude> (generic sata disks and atx mob)
[10:11] <nsfw> pixil: YAY!
[10:11] <nsfw> go HP
[10:11] <nsfw> and no custom builds are *SLOWER* from dell/hp
[10:11] <nsfw> ie you can get a standard build within a few days
[10:11] <nsfw> when you go to customize it, it's called a BTO (Build to order)
[10:11] <nsfw> and it can take a week, because they have to test the crap out of it
[10:15] <sw33tCH0C> hi, i have this file 170mb and i want to have a small piece of it so that
[10:15] <sw33tCH0C> i just tried adobe premiere but im not getting sound
[10:15] <sw33tCH0C> is there a simple/easy way? :/
[10:15] <trogdork> how can i map my caps lock key, which is completely useless, to be the shi
[10:16] <phisher1> HMMM
[10:16] <trogdork> but keep my normal shift keys in place
[10:20] <jackal^> why you want to do that
[10:21] <trogdork> so i never accidently hit my caps lock again. i sure never hit it intentio
[10:21] <nsfw> phisher1, can I ask your opinion on something? ;)
[10:22] <phisher1> I probably won't give you the opinion that you're looking for, thus it wil
[10:22] <nsfw> lol
[10:22] <phisher1> You're not actually looking for an opinion.
[10:22] <nsfw> no I am really
[10:22] <phisher1> Your wanting to reenforce your own beliefs.
[10:22] <nsfw> no
[10:22] <phisher1> ;)
[10:23] <phisher1> what ?
[10:23] <nsfw> I've got to take one of my clients down what will be an interesting transition
[10:23] <nsfw> the big decision is blade vs virtualized
[10:23] <phisher1> both
[10:23] <Jenna24> What OS does a brand new MacBook use?
[10:23] <nsfw> mac os x :P
[10:23] <Jenna24> Tiger, Panther etc...?
[10:23] <nsfw> oh
[10:23] <nsfw> Jag?
[10:23] <jackal^> trogdork, if you dont want to use caps, rip it off :)
[10:23] <trogdork> leopard i think
[10:23] <nsfw> phisher1: Well I guess I'm trying to find out which you prefer and why
[10:23] <nsfw> heh
[10:24] <nsfw> oh right leapord is out
[10:24] <deww> lame
[10:24] <Jenna24> I've never even heard of leopard. *sigh* WHy isnt this info listed on Mac's
[10:24] <Jenna24> Or wikipedia for that matter
[10:24] <trogdork> has to be
[10:24] <nsfw> cause it changes too often ;)
[10:25] <nsfw> hahaha
[10:25] <phisher1> blades were here when I got here
[10:25] <Jenna24> http://www.apple.com/macbook/
[10:25] <Jenna24> I can't find the info there anywhere
[10:25] <phisher1> they take up less space and are alot more convienent
[10:25] <phisher1> virtualization is a no brainer
[10:25] <phisher1> if you can spread across available resources to more than just 1 machine..
[10:26] <nsfw> yeah, i'm just trying to decide, they are a smaller client transitioning into
[10:26] <phisher1> blade centers are expensive
[10:26] <nsfw> I need to start consolidating server resources, so I need to retire 4-5 of the
[10:26] <nsfw> and because of power limitations I've got to start putting in fewer servers an
[10:26] <nsfw> like more than $25k-$30k for a basic blade setup? (excluding incidentals)
[10:27] <phisher1> "basic blade setup"
[10:27] <phisher1> depends on what is basic
[10:27] <phisher1> what center itself will cost a few grand
[10:27] <phisher1> that's not including any actual servers.
[10:27] <nsfw> yeah I know :P
[10:28] <nsfw> truth be told I'm leaning more hp just because of product lifecycle, and yeah.
[10:28] <nsfw> really I want to retire a bunch of their 1.4-2GHz level server systems
[10:28] <nsfw> 3-4 of them. and I can conslidate software installations and shift them toget
[10:29] <nsfw> I could also virtualize across the blades I suppose, but that may be an added
[10:29] <Torob> i got new logitech premium headset, and im trying to use the mic, and in reco
[10:29] <Torob> any reason why this could be happening?
[10:29] <phisher1> just mass unban deww
[10:29] <deww> phisher1: i flooded off
[10:29] <deww> haha
[10:29] <deww> oh wait
[10:29] <nsfw> lol
[10:29] <Sculptor> hi!
[10:30] <nsfw> woah
[10:30] <nsfw> guess I missed something exciting
[10:30] <phisher1> use dewo =\
[10:30] <phisher1> we got flooded bad this morning
[10:30] <phisher1> well, not too bad, but alot of clients
[10:30] <nsfw> really. hmm
[10:30] <wordbyte> hello, how do i make it so that i can connect to my computer at home while
[10:30] <deww> phisher1: yeah i wasm but you cleared already!!
[10:30] <Torob> wordbyte: logmein.com
[10:30] <nsfw> some of those bans could have been simplified lol but I know how it gets crazy
[10:30] <phisher1> deww: =)
[10:31] <phisher1> nsfw: they were automatic
[10:31] <deww> ok
[10:31] <wordbyte> its free?
[10:31] <nsfw> yeah
[10:31] <wordbyte> and it will work from a network?
[10:31] <wordbyte> nice
[10:31] <Torob> yes
[10:31] <phisher1> that's be a good idea
[10:31] <Torob> yes it uses browser to connect
[10:31] <phisher1> have a script that analyzes bans on a channel and tries to consolidate as
[10:32] <nsfw> heh
[10:32] <Torob> you make accnt, download their software onto your home computer.. then on you
[10:32] <nsfw> Btw
[10:32] <nsfw> <-- Life^ lol
[10:32] <phisher1> I know
[10:32] <phisher1> hence why
[10:32] <phisher1> [12:22] <@phisher1> You're not actually looking for an opinion.
[10:32] <phisher1> [12:22] <@phisher1> Your wanting to reenforce your own beliefs.
[10:32] <Torob> anyone know how i can fix the microphone level on my problem?
[10:32] <nsfw> just making sure hahaha I know
[10:32] <nsfw> Dude I know I give you shit alot :)
[10:32] <nsfw> but you're a good guy and I respect your opinion.
[10:32] <phisher1> well thanks
[10:33] <phisher1> I don't like offering help to people that offer help to other people.
[10:33] <phisher1> They are usually looking for a specific answer..if you don't give it to th
[10:33] <phisher1> your opinion is wrong
[10:33] <deww> nsfw: you're not nsfw
[10:33] <nsfw> lol
[10:33] <deww> nsfw: you're not nsfphisher1
[10:33] <phisher1> :D
[10:33] <Torob> phisher then i shouldnt have helped wordbyte? :(
[10:33] <nsfw> phisher1: Yeah, I dunno I'm really open to lots of things right now. Mostly
[10:34] <phisher1> call your vendor
[10:34] <nsfw> Just have some power issues, and it's like, spend $17k for another leg of powe
[10:34] <nsfw> or we just start shifting them away from their traditional setup, and into bla
[10:34] <phisher1> see what kinda prices you can get for a blade center and a few hs-41's
[10:34] <nsfw> and I'm open to both, just having a hard time deciding what solution would be
[10:34] <phisher1> i wouldn't migrate everything instantly
[10:34] <phisher1> but blade centers are much much easier to manage
[10:35] <nsfw> oh no this is an 18 month transition plan
[10:35] <nsfw> and I probably have an overall budget over the 18 months of like $100,000 to m
[10:35] <nsfw> probably won't be going IBM though :|
[10:35] <Torob> i've changed realtek manager input to HDA and it got tiny, barely noticable b
[10:35] <phisher1> ask frd about it too
[10:35] <phisher1> he'll have a much better insight than me
[10:35] <nsfw> lol only suck about asking frd, is then I have to hear about his poo
[10:35] <phisher1> naa
[10:35] <phisher1> if you ask him a serious question, he'll answer seriously
[10:35] <nsfw> hahaha he doesn't go on about that anymore ;) lol
[10:35] <Torob> under windows sound controller, where you have multiple bars, under recording
[10:36] <Torob> the rest are greyed out, including microphone
[10:36] <nsfw> I dunno,I stopped hanging with alot of that crowd when I went on sobatical a f
[10:36] <nsfw> I haven't talked to him in like 2 years. Weird
[10:36] <phisher1> you're not in intoit's #helpchat
[10:36] <nsfw> lol no
[10:36] <nsfw> are you kidding me, I send half of the crap I don't want to deal with here to
[10:37] <phisher1> it's a channel that was originally made (I thought anyway) for sending idl
[10:37] <phisher1> apparently its a troll haven too though
[10:37] <nsfw> lol yeah I can imagine
[10:37] <phisher1> so it has its ups and downs.. but frd is active in there from time to time
[10:37] <nsfw> haha
[10:37] <phisher1> as are many of the other #help ops
[10:37] <nsfw> yeah I know
[10:37] <Torob> :(
[10:37] <nsfw> what about #global? That place dead now?
[10:37] <phisher1> pretty much
[10:38] <phisher1> it still has a pulse though
[10:38] <nsfw> Torob: It's probably set to line input level
[10:38] <nsfw> needs to be changed to mic input levels
[10:38] <nsfw> and check the boost gain/power box
[10:38] <nsfw> I don't remember where any of this is off hand
[10:39] <Torob> okay heh lemme see where i can find what your talking about
[10:39] <nsfw> phisher1: BTW you reccomend any good snmp management tools? Looking to conso
[10:39] <phisher1> only snmp management I've dealt with, I wrote my own =\
[10:39] <Torob> where it says what did you plug in, its set to mic in
[10:39] <nsfw> Really I'm trying to consolidate management for all of my clients into a more
[10:39] <phisher1> and not really 'management', more monitoring
[10:40] <nsfw> Trying to find a way to remotely track in reasonable time server/network appli
[10:40] <phisher1> some management, but very little..
[10:40] <Torob> nsfw i think realtek has taken over everything.. and wont lemme do anythin
[10:40] <nsfw> well monitoring is what I'm looking sorry, poorly worded
[10:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[10:40] <phisher1> I mean, if you're looking for just some pretty graphs, i'm sure ehh cacti
[10:41] <phisher1> intermapper is a gui solution
[10:41] <phisher1> for up/down/levels monitoring
[10:41] <phisher1> useful for a noc enviroment
[10:41] <phisher1> the dreaded net saint =\
[10:42] <nsfw> lol
[10:42] <Torob> just uninstalled realtek maybe that'll fix, who knows
[10:42] <nsfw> Torob: Sorry I don't know much about the realtek manager
[10:42] <nsfw> phisher1: SUcks that I'm windows though now hahaha
[10:42] <phisher1> windows has its place
[10:42] <nsfw> most of my clients haha
[10:42] <phisher1> not in my server room though =\
[10:43] <nsfw> yeah, we focus on two totally diff things so *shrug*
[10:43] <phisher1> we have windows reporting servers for peoplesoft
[10:43] <phisher1> thats the only window servers we run
[10:43] <nsfw> I just have too much work going on, I'm scheduled out over a week already. So
[10:43] <phisher1> and I thankfully don't have to touch them. =)
[10:44] <nsfw> I don't want to find out a drive in a raid set died 8 months after it died and
[10:44] <phisher1> sometimes its takes something to break in order to know what to look out f
[10:44] <phisher1> you're looking to utilize snmp traps then
[10:44] <nsfw> yuppers
[10:45] <nsfw> right, but as it stands.....I have about 5 clients that are my bread and butte
[10:45] <nsfw> and plan on putting basic servers/support tools in place so that I can get not
[10:45] <nsfw> so that if I need to I can call in and say "I've noticed that you've lost a dr
[10:45] <nsfw> rather than wait to hear from them to say "Umm we can't log into the server to
[10:46] <phisher1> well, you'll need daemons running on the boxes.. the windows boxes
[10:46] <phisher1> can't help ya there =\
[10:46] <nsfw> yeah, most of that is covered
[10:46] <nsfw> I'm mostly hp, and their ilo is pretty dang good about that kidn of stuff
[10:46] <nsfw> I'm just more interested in the networking equipment
[10:46] <nsfw> snmp trapping seemed the obvious choice there
[10:46] <nsfw> since that's supported on almost everything now days
[10:47] <phisher1> the snmp trapping I've had experience with, I had custom scripts called th
[10:47] <nsfw> and if I go snmp I can remote monitor networking equipment, switches, printers
[10:47] <nsfw> hmm, okay didn't know if you had run across something that wasn't so customize
[10:48] <phisher1> i've heard good things about nimbus in the past though
[10:48] <nsfw> Yeah, I was looking at that.
[10:48] <nsfw> there is also some windows front end tools from ip switch that look interestin
[10:49] <Genaral> does sombody know why internet stop working when i open utoreent??
[10:49] <phisher1> its probably working fine
[10:49] <Genaral> no
[10:49] <phisher1> you're probably seeding alot causing your connection to slow down to a cra
[10:49] <Genaral> when i closing the utorrent
[10:49] <nsfw> yeah you're more than likely just killing your connection hahaha
[10:49] <phisher1> no ? welp, looks like you've already got the answers
[10:49] <phisher1> my work here is done.
[10:49] <Genaral> then nither it wont work
[10:50] <phisher1> lunch time, afk
[10:50] <RcRaCk> hey
[10:50] <nsfw> thanks phisher1
[10:51] <RcRaCk> anyone know of any free house cad programs ?
[10:51] <Torob> i uninstalled
[10:51] <Torob> let windows find one and install itself
[10:51] <Torob> again realtek
[10:51] <Torob> aand mic is still super low..
[10:51] <nsfw> Torob: Lol
[10:54] <aloxa> why xbox called 360 ?
[10:54] <Anthraxus> I guess b/c it covers all aspects of gaming, media HTPC?
[10:56] <MrMeth> I want to Update my ATI Catelyst and Remote Wonder software, but everytime I
[10:56] <MrMeth> anyone know a sulution to get the Remote Workin after?
[10:56] <aloxa> why xbox called 360 ?
[10:56] <MrMeth> If I try a driver roll back on the remote, it crashes the PC
[10:57] <deww> aloxa: we didn't name it. ask microsoft
[10:57] <MrMeth> same prob after 3 formats on 2 dif PC's
[10:58] <MrMeth> 360 seems like it has gone in a compleat 360 from the origional, therefore m
[10:58] <MrMeth> jus the name(*)
[10:58] <cypha> what language would i need to know to program a Device Driver in windows
[10:59] <pixil> cypha: Well, you would need to start by learning the Windows APIs.
[10:59] <pixil> #win32 can probably get you rolling.
[11:00] <cypha> meaning learn C++ or something?
[11:01] <pixil> That's not what I said. :-)
[11:01] <aloxa> who have microsoft?
[11:01] <cypha> what do u mean for API?
[11:01] <pixil> I said, go to #win32, they'll get you going with learning Windows APIs.
[11:01] <pixil> aloxa: Huh?
[11:01] <cypha> java is a windows api, right?
[11:01] <pixil> No
[11:01] <pixil> Java is a programming language
[11:02] <cypha> so like .net?
[11:02] <pixil> Windows APIs are how libraries and programs communicate with each other in Wi
[11:02] <cypha> k, gotcha
[11:03] <cypha> what programming language(s) would i have to know to be able to program in a
[11:03] <pixil> There isn't a specific one.
[11:03] <pixil> I would have, otherwise, told you to learn language x.
[11:03] <cypha> so i can use any?
[11:04] <pixil> You are relentless. :-)
[11:04] <deww> cypha: assembly
[11:04] <cypha> i just want to have a background understanding before i dive into #win32, whe
[11:05] <pixil> Have you been there?
[11:05] <cypha> nope
[11:05] <pixil> Just go there and tell them you'd like to start writing device drivers and wa
[11:05] <pixil> They are used to people with little or no experience.
[11:06] <deww> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=20
[11:06] <cypha> great, sounds good
[11:06] <cypha> thanks guys
[11:07] <aloxa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1m-dc8PlKo
[11:14] <NWcats> can anybody help me find a poem thats in a book if i have the author the peo
[11:23] * jumpie- is now known as Jumpie
[11:30] <mingles> hi
[11:30] <mingles> anyone know if there is a program for Vista that will let u change the star
[11:35] <disturb> mingles: try www.stardock.com
[11:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[11:50] <NWcats> stupis questin but my brain is dead
[11:50] <NWcats> what do they call them thangs they give out at funerals with like the poems
[11:52] <pixil> You speaking of the eulogy?
[11:52] <NWcats> is that what the actully paper is called
[11:52] <NWcats> isn't that what is on the paper
[11:53] <NWcats> like a program thing
[11:53] <phisher1> I call them a program
[11:53] <pixil> There is no formal word for the physical handout. It's called a Eulogy, I th
[11:53] <pixil> Yeah, I guess if there's an official word, it'd be "program". :-)
[11:53] <phisher1> A eulogy is the speech given
[11:54] <phisher1> afaik
[11:54] <NWcats> ya thats what i thought
[11:54] <pixil> yeah, it's often spoken too
[11:55] <pixil> google's findings call both the spoken words and written words as a Euology
[11:55] <NWcats> okay thank you
[11:55] <pixil> I'm not sure how accurate google's define: engine is
[11:55] <pixil> ;-)
[12:02] <NWcats> is there any online libaries i can try to find a poem in a book at
[12:05] <ericdolph> hi. i have a problem with my computer freezing. when i play coutner strik
[12:05] <NWcats> i'm trying to find a poem for an eulogy
[12:10] <pixil> NWcats: Google isn't helping at all?
[12:10] <pixil> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=funeral+poem+handout&btnG=Google+Search
[12:10] <pixil> Heck, you could have "I'm feeling lucky"ed that query, too. :p
[12:11] <NWcats> nope
[12:11] * cyn_ is now known as cYn
[12:11] <NWcats> i just need to find a poem
[12:11] <NWcats> it's on the first page of a book
[12:11] <NWcats> but no local libaries have the book
[12:13] <tetley> hi what is a good online virus scan. one of the ones that dont install
[12:15] <deww> they do install
[12:15] <tetley> i mean activ x or w/e
[12:16] <deww> yes, they still install stuff locally
[12:16] <tetley> does anyone know
[12:16] <RBL> Trend Micro HouseCall - Free Online Vir @ http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ | Vi
[12:17] <deww> whatever
[12:17] <deww> n00bz
[12:17] <deww> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[12:17] <phisher1> n000n
[12:17] <pixil> boobz?
[12:17] <pixil> oh
[12:17] <pixil> :-/
[12:17] <tetley> rbl i tried trend micro housecall and it found some stuff on my pc id like t
[12:17] <NWcats> pcpitstop has one i beleive
[12:17] <phisher1> it found stuff, and that's bad?
[12:17] <cYn> I'm having trouble keeping my screen saver from coming up and my power options
[12:17] <tetley> um not thats good.
[12:17] <cYn> Anyway to stop that?
[12:17] <pixil> You tried a scanner and it succeeded, and you want to use something elswe. :-
[12:18] <phisher1> cYn: set the time higher =\
[12:18] <cYn> besides disabling power and screen saver options
[12:18] <tetley> pixil: yes
[12:18] <cYn> i don't wanna do that.
[12:18] <cYn> It never did that untill i got a new mouse
[12:18] <cYn> Sounds weird, but that's the case here.
[12:19] <modogo> hello
[12:19] <jackal^> cYn, theres option for screen saver during playback
[12:19] <cYn> i have that enabled. Still does it
[12:19] <tetley> should potatoes be kept in darkness or alowed to see light
[12:20] <jackal^> cYn, err enabled?
[12:21] <modogo> i have a pdf document that does not have editable fields. is there any way t
[12:21] <jackal^> it should be disabled
[12:22] <modogo> i meant the viewer cannot enter data into fields and i want them to be able
[12:22] <Bucketman> cYn: did this new mouse come with a install disc?
[12:23] <jackal^> modogo, i think adore acrobat pro will let you
[12:23] <jackal^> adobe*
[12:28] <cYn> [15:22] <Bucketman> cYn: did this new mouse come with a install disc?
[12:28] <cYn> no
[12:28] <cYn> sorry
[12:28] <cYn> im doing like 312323 things
[12:28] <cYn> kind of slow, but no, it didn't
[12:28] <Bucketman> cYn: ok
[12:28] <cYn> usb
[12:29] <cYn> it recognized it as soon as i put it in the slot
[12:29] <cYn> aahhh ok
[12:29] <cYn> i see
[12:29] <cYn> allow screen saver during play back
[12:29] <cYn> son of a beyotch
[12:29] <cYn> i don't know why, but i thought that box disabled it
[12:30] <cYn> and all this time i would get pissed off for nothing
[12:30] <cYn> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahah
[12:30] <cYn> <-----stupid ass
[12:30] <phisher1> hehe
[12:30] <cYn> someone slap me
[12:30] <cYn> with a big trout
[12:30] <phisher1> ;)
[12:30] <cYn> or that
[12:30] <cYn> lol
[12:30] <cYn> :)
[12:30] <Quagmire1> how do u set 1" margins in word?
[12:30] <cYn> using the arrows at the top right?
[12:31] <cYn> top,*
[12:32] * D0lphin is now known as Mattvixen
[12:33] <cYn> I need one more thing with windows media player.
[12:34] <cYn> When in full screen mode, you have the top and bottom bars, if you idle they di
[12:34] <cYn> Well, mine's not doing that, any reason why?
[12:35] <deww> make sure your mouse is not hovering over the menus
[12:36] <cYn> i know that.
[12:36] <cYn> their not
[12:36] <cYn> it's not i mean
[12:36] <phisher1> he knows that deww.
[12:37] <cYn> lol
[12:37] <cYn> I'm not trying to be rude, lol sorry
[12:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[12:43] <xxl3w> is there anyway to reload fonts in photoshop without restarting photoshop?
[12:45] <cYn> ah i see
[12:47] <cYn> I figured it out
[12:47] <cYn> There's a tack at the top that if enabled it will, "always display full screen
[12:47] <cYn> I think my computer is playing tricks on me
[12:47] <cYn> IM scared.
[12:50] <Anthraxus> lol
[12:50] <iceb> #helpchat
[12:50] <Anthraxus> awesome!
[12:52] * Anthraxus is now known as Anthr4x0s
[12:53] <kraut> hi, just wondering, this network doesnt provide vhost or dns-spoof services,
[12:53] <jackal^> yes
[12:54] <kraut> thank you, take care
[12:54] <Jumpie> does anyone know approximately how much of a per hour raise you need at stan
[12:54] <Jumpie> about 8/hr right?
[12:54] <Jumpie> taking taxes into effect
[12:57] <nsfw> lemme calculate
[12:57] <Jumpie> im tryin to negotiate raise
[12:57] <Jumpie> :D
[12:57] <Jumpie> i wanna net a grand and wanna figure it out with an educated offer :)
[12:57] <nsfw> I'm coming up with about 8.58, it'll vary depending on the amount of state wit
[12:58] <Jumpie> sure
[12:58] <Jumpie> so 8-9 range for sure
[12:58] <Jumpie> wow
[12:58] <Jumpie> thats a hefty percentage
[12:59] <Jumpie> i guess there isnt an average formula? its kinda case by case
[12:59] <Jumpie> i was up for a 6 month raise plus a special project i did
[12:59] * Ifrit- is now known as Ifrit
[12:59] <Jumpie> if i ask for 9$/hr thats 20% raise approx..is that greedy?
[12:59] <nsfw> yeah, it depends alot on your tax bracket and state withholdings
[13:00] <nsfw> probably ;)
[13:00] <nsfw> just make sure you can justify it lol
[13:00] <nsfw> 9/hr raises would be a kinda nuts amount
[13:01] <Jumpie> yea but if my initial salary is significantly higher than that..its ok right
[13:01] <Jumpie> if you mae 10/hr and asked for 9 raise i can see thats crazy
[13:02] <Jumpie> i just guess ther isnt an official right answre to this lol
[13:02] <larg> anyone here use rapidshare?
[13:07] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[13:17] <kk99> convites para o evolution pt ????
[13:18] <pixil> English
[13:27] <merCutio_> Does anyone know what the generic type of watch is where you can see the
[13:30] <phisher1> wow, kde is going cross platform
[13:30] <phisher1> Windows and Mac OS
[13:31] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[13:33] <Schlachte> hi, i have some new pics here: http://rostwolke.ath.cx/?id=43437
[13:33] <Schlachte> oops ... wrong window =(
[13:34] <deww> Schlachte: sure
[13:34] <chains> any irssi folk here?
[13:35] <phisher1> i use irssi
[13:35] <ttol-> the market was insane today
[13:39] <chains> how do i join another network while on efnet, simultaneously?
[13:39] <chains> is it /server then use ctrl x to switch?
[13:40] <pixil> What client?
[13:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[13:40] <chains> irssi
[13:40] <deww> chains: /server +irc.newserver
[13:40] <chains> ah
[13:40] <chains> so you need the + ?
[13:40] <deww> yes
[13:41] <phisher1> http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c6
[13:42] <chains> that says just use /connect
[13:56] <marodach> say is rapidshare and megaupload are the same services?
[13:59] <marodach> anyone?
[14:00] <deww> same type, i don't believ that they are teh same service unless they merged re
[14:01] <KaMiKaZa> marodach> same type, not same company
[14:01] <marodach> what i meant is if i purchased rapid can i use the login for megaupload?
[14:01] <KaMiKaZa> no
[14:01] <marodach> OK
[14:01] <marodach> well i do recomend rapidshare
[14:01] <KaMiKaZa> =>
[14:02] <marodach> whats =>
[14:02] <KaMiKaZa> a smile
[14:02] <marodach> recomand
[14:02] <marodach> never mind
[14:02] <KaMiKaZa> lol
[14:02] <marodach> if i may another question?
[14:02] <KaMiKaZa> ok
[14:03] <marodach> reguarding tv shows?
[14:03] <KaMiKaZa> ok
[14:03] <marodach> as much as i tried to find if the office (us) will have another episodes,
[14:04] <marodach> the last episode is s04e08
[14:05] <marodach> anyone?
[14:15] <WiLLFuR> when i run memtest86 from a floppy boot, i get all these numbers scrolling,
[14:16] * qmq is now known as Quemeqal
[14:18] <pixil> WiLLFuR: yes
[14:18] <blanto> how much more electricity is my computer using being in sleep mode compared
[14:18] <pixil> blanto: very little
[14:18] <WiLLFuR> i predict 20w
[14:19] <pixil> I'd venture to agree to that guesstimate
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> !XO ^Omi-_-zZ WiLLFuR
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> -----
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> Time to play XO!
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> 1 2 3
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> 4 5 6
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> 7 8 9
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> !x 3
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> 1 2 x
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> 4 5 6
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> 7 8 9
[14:20] <^Omi-_-zZ> !x 2
[14:21] <pixil> oO
[14:22] <WiLLFuR> what's a good memtest?
[14:23] <phisher1> that guy has been perm banned before
[14:23] * KhaOZ` is now known as KhaOZ
[14:26] <pixil> thought I recognized
[14:26] <pixil> WiLLFuR: Actually, that is kind of the standard...
[14:28] <WiLLFuR> oh ok ill just see if the matrix stops
[14:28] * DigtalUn is now known as DigitalUn
[14:28] <WiLLFuR> never ran this memtest before
[14:28] <pixil> Oh, it takes a long time. :-)
[14:28] <WiLLFuR> ic
[14:28] <WiLLFuR> kewl
[14:36] <Skall> Oulala
[14:37] <RBL> serverlist: EFNet Server List: http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers -phisher1 (
[14:38] <Hastor> is there a good virus scanner with up to date definitions that will run on w
[14:38] <Hastor> a free one that is
[14:38] <Hastor> or trial
[14:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[14:44] <Osc> clamav maybe
[14:45] * Disconnected
[14:45] * Attempting to rejoin channel #Help
[14:45] * Rejoined channel #Help
[14:45] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
[14:45] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Wed Jan 23 14:39:22
[14:47] <Asia> hello is there help docs for efnet ?
[14:48] <phisher1> are you searching for help on a particular subject ?
[14:48] <Osc> http://www.efnet.org/?module=docs
[14:48] <Asia> yeah like nick registeration and channel too.
[14:48] <phisher1> no nick or channel registration on efnet
[14:49] <phisher1> http://irchelp.org/noserv has more info
[14:50] * Asia is now known as dOdiOuS
[14:56] <Quemeqal> this is the free network
[14:58] <dOdiOuS> what is the official scripting channel in here ?
[15:04] <modogo> hey
[15:13] <greenday> hi any good channel here for help about firewall
[15:13] <greenday> thanks
[15:17] <Eyal> [FunScripT v3.0] [By HyperBlasT] [Www.FunScripT.2ya.co.il]
[15:17] <Eyal> ?
[15:33] <n909> anyone know how to pronounce the name `Lara`?
[15:34] <JPres> yes
[15:34] <JPres> el hore miller
[15:38] <chirly> holaaaaaaaaa
[15:39] <massacre5> can someone hlp me pm me if u can
[15:40] <rhelic> just ask
[15:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:40] <rhelic> the channel, we don't do private help
[15:40] <massacre5> i need help getting to a scrim and ringer channel for css
[15:42] <massacre5> ?
[15:43] <massacre5> can someone help??
[15:43] <Frankie> does anyone know the chans for wars?....css?
[15:43] <Frankie> new on irc! =]
[15:43] <massacre5> me 2
[15:43] <massacre5> i need hlpin gettin 2 a css channel
[15:44] <massacre5> but noones sayin anything
[15:44] <Frankie> ffs
[15:44] <Frankie> i used to use it for counter strike but it doesnt seem to let me on any css
[15:44] <massacre5> do uk the ringer or scrim channel
[15:45] <Frankie> ?
[15:45] <massacre5> wuts the name of the channels
[15:45] <Frankie> 5on5.css
[15:52] <gadjo> how can i convert the offset of an exe, to the actual adress ?
[15:52] <gadjo> i need to patch a byte on an exe, but i don't know the formula
[15:52] <gadjo> it is something like offset+a_number
[15:53] <gadjo> i don't remember the number
[15:55] <josh25> can somone help me with psx emulator problems its not finding a gpu plugin
[15:55] <rhelic> josh25: #emu
[15:59] <josh25> theres nobody in there help!
[16:07] <WiLLFuR> fk i frostburned my finger with a air can duster
[16:07] <WiLLFuR> never air 2 computers at a time
[16:09] <khafra> Good to know
[16:09] <WiLLFuR> my pinkie was white as a ghost, now its red
[16:14] <rhelic> josh25: is it in the right folder? did you restart the app?
[16:14] <rhelic> josh25: this is really a RTFM question :)
[16:14] <mark`> put in room temp water, and it'll help, not hot or warm water
[16:15] <rhelic> WiLLFuR: does it hurt?
[16:16] <rhelic> when you burn or freeze something, and it doesn't hurt, you're in serious tr
[16:16] <WiLLFuR> it hadnt turned purple yet so i guess its ok
[16:16] <WiLLFuR> feels like i touched a toaster oven
[16:17] <rhelic> it hurts, so you'll be ok
[16:17] <WiLLFuR> :)
[16:17] <rhelic> body temp water is the only fix
[16:17] <WiLLFuR> ya i did that first thing
[16:17] <rhelic> when you don't feel anything, you've damaged the nerves
[16:17] <rhelic> that's when you go to the hospital
[16:18] <WiLLFuR> ic
[16:18] <WiLLFuR> even the air bottle said go to the hospital if its frostbitten
[16:30] <Ghostwolf> I need to throttle a computer on the network
[16:30] <Ghostwolf> when it's used to load youtube videos all other connections are force out
[16:30] <Ghostwolf> ideas?
[16:31] <Star_Fire> ghost: netlimiter?
[16:32] <WiLLFuR> netlimiter rules
[16:33] <WiLLFuR> hey i got a Q, how long does memtest take for 2gb ram?
[16:33] <Star_Fire> ghost: you could also use the QOS in your router if it has it to limit sp
[16:34] <Ghostwolf> well it lets me set mac addresses but not limits... just priority
[16:34] <Ghostwolf> low medium or high
[16:34] <Ghostwolf> I'll try high
[16:34] <Ghostwolf> for the computer that's not doing youtube
[16:34] <Ghostwolf> WiLLFuR: I'd leave it all night
[16:35] <WiLLFuR> ok thx
[16:35] <Star_Fire> ghost: ah hrmm.. sveasoft alchemy can to by port, net mask, MAC addy or
[16:35] <trogdork> can the rain make wifi to my laptop not work
[16:38] <rhelic> trogdork: no
[16:38] <rhelic> trogdork: especially if you mean your wifi router inside your house, and you
[16:38] <trogdork> no from outside
[16:39] <trogdork> a public wifi network
[16:39] <rhelic> unlikely
[16:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[16:52] <mark`> If you are shooting your WiFi/WLAN signal over a distance of a few 10's or 10
[16:53] <mark`> ... if you care... http://www.confero24.com/article_info.php?articles_id=9
[16:54] * IamKing is now known as IamHabeeb
[16:54] * IamHabeeb is now known as IamKing
[16:55] <mark`> iam?
[16:57] <Winner> legend
[16:57] <rhelic> heh
[16:58] <DrNight> What's the best way to remove gasoline from non-porous surfaces?
[16:58] <mark`> burn it
[16:58] <Star_Fire> gasoline will evaporate
[16:59] <embalmer> I have a question. I was wondering is it actually physically possible to a
[16:59] <mark`> i still like my idea
[16:59] <DrNight> I just don't want it to wreck the finishing or anything.
[16:59] <modogo> hi
[16:59] <modogo> anyone know if there is a irc channel for gmail?
[16:59] <modogo> aneone at all?
[16:59] <modogo> don't be shy now
[16:59] <modogo> speak up
[17:00] <Star_Fire> DrN: if it isn't alot, just wipe it and keep it away from flames/sparks
[17:00] <tetedupet> no
[17:01] <gar> when I try to play a dvd in windows media player I get an error "0 not found"
[17:01] <phisher1> modogo: are you looking for help w/ gmail?
[17:01] <phisher1> I doubt there is a channel dedicated to an email service..
[17:01] <modogo> i think i found the answer. turns out you cant make a new folder... :(
[17:01] <modogo> nm
[17:01] <modogo> thanks, though
[17:01] <phisher1> labels are you friend =)
[17:01] <phisher1> your too
[17:02] <modogo> i'm trying to configure my email client to only download messages with a spe
[17:05] <gar> any idea?
[17:05] <gar> this only happens when I try to play a movie dvd other dvds work just fine...I'
[17:05] <BuggedOut> using XP/2000/Vista -- if i format a jbod with 3 disks - can I add a disk
[17:13] <mark`> does anyone here have a fedex account?
[17:14] <mark`> i am thinking of getting one, and was just wondering if it is hassle
[17:15] <Winner> you mean online?
[17:15] <mark`> yes
[17:15] <Winner> yeah I have one, is easy to setup
[17:15] <mark`> any issues with it?
[17:15] <Winner> I haven't come across any issues
[17:15] <mark`> nice
[17:16] <Winner> yeah fedex seems to be a great company, is always a pleasure doing business
[17:16] <mark`> is there any fees to keep it, like annual or something
[17:17] <CreeDo> any way to easily figure out the exact link to a video that's currently play
[17:17] <Winner> Well I believe they have more than one type of account
[17:17] <Winner> one I use there isn't any fees and they give discounts sometimes on shipping
[17:18] <mark`> ok, thanks
[17:18] <Winner> np :D
[17:22] <mingles> Can someone help me translate something from polish to english the online s
[17:28] <gar> no
[17:28] <modogo> no
[17:29] <modogo> anyone use mirc? how do i turn colors off
[17:29] <modogo> ?
[17:31] <stikupkid> anyone know where i can host a web chat free?
[17:32] <MrMeth> when I open Task Manager, it won't open to the desktop, jus stays in the tas
[17:33] <phisher1> MrMeth: if you double click the icon in the systray, will it open up ?
[17:33] <MrMeth> nope :/
[17:33] <phisher1> do you or did you have multiple monitors set up ?
[17:33] <phisher1> or tvout ?
[17:34] <MrMeth> no, it's on the gurls PC
[17:34] <phisher1> gurl ?
[17:34] <MrMeth> my girl
[17:34] <phisher1> Why purposfully mispell a word ?
[17:34] <phisher1> anyway
[17:34] <phisher1> have fun
[17:34] <phisher1> done helping you.
[17:34] <MrMeth> sry
[17:34] <stikupkid> ne1?
[17:34] <K_Dallas> Good evening guys! Q: I need to synchronize a few folders of my desktop wi
[17:34] <MrMeth> never wrote the word Girl in many years
[17:35] <K_Dallas> (btw, I have not figured out how to access to the desktop from laptop and
[17:35] <Winner> phisher1 don't you ever just get tired of attacking people, and being negati
[17:35] <Winner> you're in a help channel, you should do just that without the constant anger
[17:37] <phisher1> Winner: I'm not angry.
[17:37] <phisher1> MrMeth is a perpetual troll and refuses to type in English.
[17:37] <MrMeth> :/
[17:37] <phisher1> If you were in the channel more than.. oh .. a day ? You might have notice
[17:38] <phisher1> Everyone's a critic.. gotta love it.
[17:39] <Winner> I am mikeLAwree the person you banned for helping people, of which I been do
[17:39] <Winner> in this channel
[17:39] <phisher1> yes, I know.
[17:40] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[17:40] <modogo> i kinda saw that one coming
[17:41] <K_Dallas> :)
[17:41] <phisher1> He's just another person wrapped up in his own psuedo intelligence.
[17:41] <MrMeth> I have learned not to talk when phisher1 is in the room :)
[17:41] <intx> would a dead cmos battery cause a motherboard not to power on?
[17:41] <modogo> maybe
[17:41] <Ghostwolf> phisher1: that describes just about everyone here :-p
[17:41] <phisher1> MrMeth: do you rememeber the several months when you actually chatted in E
[17:42] <phisher1> Did you have a problem with me or vice versa ?
[17:42] <MrMeth> intx: I would not think so
[17:42] <phisher1> I remember it being quite pleasent. You are somewhat of a contributer to t
[17:42] <K_Dallas> Q2 (Q1 is still pending ;) Is there a channel for finance/economic discu
[17:43] <phisher1> #finance exists
[17:43] <Anthr4x0s> Hey I need some nix assistance, anyone a guru?
[17:43] <phisher1> Anthr4x0s: just ask
[17:43] <Anthr4x0s> Doh!
[17:43] <MrMeth> haha, it is just a habbit, that I have been doing for many years. And belie
[17:44] <K_Dallas> phisher1, thanks, i will look into it, hopefully they are active
[17:44] <Anthr4x0s> Okay I've got a konsole win open... I used to be able to tab them into 1
[17:44] <phisher1> Well, believe it or not, I cannot stand people that talk like that.
[17:44] <MrMeth> for instance, the way I am typing right now... is not me
[17:44] <Anthr4x0s> Like IE 6 Vs firefox
[17:44] <Anthr4x0s> How do I get the tab'd win?
[17:44] <K_Dallas> well, just 9 users ;)
[17:44] <phisher1> Anthr4x0s: hardly a *nix question
[17:45] <intx> what does it mean if the motherboard's green power led doesn't come on?
[17:45] <phisher1> hold on though, lemme figure it out
[17:45] <astarv> <darkwise> and lemme tell ya this
[17:45] <astarv> <astarv> lies
[17:45] <astarv> <darkwise> i'll fuck your little dialup connection to hell
[17:45] <astarv> <darkwise> so keep it up
[17:45] <astarv> <astarv> they won't show it
[17:45] <astarv> <darkwise> and you'll be sitting there with no fucking internet
[17:45] <Anthr4x0s> Wel it's IN nix... I'm not using IE or FF either way
[17:45] <astarv> is that a threat ?
[17:45] <intx> it was working fine, I left it alone for a while (aside) and now it doesn't po
[17:45] <astarv> <darkwise> if you just gave a spoiler out, i should assfuck your littl
[17:45] <astarv> is that a threat ?
[17:45] <Anthr4x0s> Dude chill out plz
[17:45] <astarv> sorry
[17:45] <Anthr4x0s> take it outside #help for a sec
[17:45] <Anthr4x0s> :-p
[17:45] * K_Dallas comes back later, the air is just to heavy tonight ;)
[17:45] <astarv> just want to know if thats a threat ?
[17:45] <Anthr4x0s> I'm trying to get limit nix help :-(
[17:45] <astarv> can u help me
[17:46] <Anthr4x0s> What do you need?
[17:46] <astarv> what i just pasted from darkwise
[17:46] <phisher1> Anthr4x0s: ctrl-page up/down
[17:46] <OreoC00ki> hi
[17:46] <astarv> said he'd packet my connection
[17:46] <astarv> is that a hacker threat ?
[17:46] <astarv> can i report this ass ?
[17:46] <phisher1> ignore him
[17:47] <Anthr4x0s> phisher1= tried, just makes a ~5 in the konsole
[17:47] <OreoC00ki> I just finished burning a dvd, when I used the dvd on another computer it
[17:47] <phisher1> Anthr4x0s: Hmm what keyboard setting do you have?
[17:47] <Ghostwolf> OreoC00ki: indicates the session was not finalized
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> or closed as some software calls it
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> until you do it'll only work in the burner that created it
[17:48] <phisher1> Anthr4x0s: also, you might want to look in Settings, Configure Shortcuts t
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> or it's fubar
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> either or
[17:48] <MrMeth> Does anyone know of a program that can replace Windows Task Manager? Window
[17:48] <Anthr4x0s> ah
[17:48] <Anthr4x0s> okay thanks
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> try closing the session 1st
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> MrMeth: google sysinternals
[17:48] <MrMeth> thx
[17:48] <phisher1> process explorer
[17:49] <WiLLFuR> if i get memtest errors in slot 0 of my ram slot, would it be a good idea t
[17:49] <phisher1> WiLLFuR: do you only have 1 stick of memory ?
[17:49] <Ghostwolf> WiLLFuR: well you can try but that just means the motherboard is bad
[17:49] <WiLLFuR> my slot 2 shows 0 errors
[17:49] <OreoC00ki> ghostwolf, I think it was set to "session finalized"
[17:49] <WiLLFuR> i have 2 sticks
[17:49] <MrMeth> sysinternals gives waaay to many results
[17:49] <phisher1> WiLLFuR: try another stick in slot 0
[17:49] <phisher1> see if you get any errors
[17:49] <MrMeth> checking process explorer
[17:49] <WiLLFuR> ok
[17:49] <WiLLFuR> thx
[17:49] <phisher1> If you do, it could be the slot.. highly doubtful though
[17:49] <phisher1> BUt I believe that is what you are trying to determine, no ?
[17:50] <WiLLFuR> i have an extra slot
[17:50] <WiLLFuR> ill try that first
[17:50] <WiLLFuR> kewl thx
[17:50] <phisher1> yup
[17:50] <OreoC00ki> ghostwolf, can I undo that setting now or I need to another copy ?
[17:50] <Ghostwolf> you can't undo it no
[17:50] <OreoC00ki> ohh :(
[17:50] <OreoC00ki> *cries*
[17:50] <Ghostwolf> you'd better check with the burner that made it
[17:50] <MrMeth> thx phisher1
[17:50] <Ghostwolf> it'll ask if you want to finalize it
[17:51] <phisher1> MrMeth: yup
[17:51] <phisher1> btw, anyone interesting in KDE 4
[17:51] <phisher1> Don't do it!
[17:51] <OreoC00ki> ghostwolf, do I want it "finalized" or "no finalized" to have it universa
[17:51] <phisher1> It's nowhere near ready and highly buggy
[17:51] <modogo> hey
[17:51] <modogo> •phisher1• can you see my ip?
[17:51] <phisher1> modogo: disable your nick complete please
[17:52] <Ghostwolf> finalized is correct for universal
[17:52] <phisher1> modogo: yes, its 69.107.85.97
[17:52] <modogo> nick complete?
[17:52] <phisher1> Uphisher1U
[17:52] <OreoC00ki> but I think it was set to "finalized" at default for nero
[17:52] <Ghostwolf> ah
[17:52] <phisher1> The colored nick complete..
[17:52] <Ghostwolf> then the disc mught just be bad
[17:52] <OreoC00ki> but ok, let me do it again
[17:52] <OreoC00ki> ok
[17:52] <Ghostwolf> make it again at a lower speed
[17:52] <OreoC00ki> thax
[17:52] <modo
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