Session Start: Tue Jan 15 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:00] <DuoMaxwel> norton internet security is a system hog
[00:00] <TwisTbanG> oh ya...
[00:00] <TwisTbanG> But its good
[00:00] <DuoMaxwel> meh
[00:00] <DuoMaxwel> i havent run an antivirus in 4 years
[00:00] <TwisTbanG> I dont have it
[00:00] <DuoMaxwel> and my computer is virus-free
[00:03] <Jumpie> dude i have bit defender
[00:03] <Jumpie> its way less footprint
[00:03] <Jumpie> always found stuff
[00:04] <TwisTbanG> All I have is AVG, Ad-Aware SE, and reg-cleaner
[00:05] <TwisTbanG> nice little program to clean out my whole registry
[00:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:06] <Ghostwolf> always found stuff?
[00:07] <Ghostwolf> how often do you get viruses exactly Jumpie
[00:08] <Jumpie> i mean wheen there's stuff
[00:08] <Jumpie> spyware, etc
[00:08] <Jumpie> rarely Ghostwolf
[00:09] <Jumpie> its been from my wife clicking stuff mainly :)
[00:09] <Jumpie> also....we loaded one of her old harddrives as a secondary
[00:09] <Jumpie> and it immediately detectesd some mp3 with virii
[00:09] <Jumpie> probably she got from kazaa or somethin
[00:09] <Ghostwolf> mp3 with viruses?
[00:09] <TwisTbanG> pornography creates spyware
[00:09] <Ghostwolf> that's not even possible is it?
[00:10] <Ghostwolf> http://www.f-secure.com/hoaxes/mp3vir.shtml
[00:10] <Jumpie> Ghostwolf of course
[00:10] <Ghostwolf> I dunno... I'd kind of trust f-secure
[00:10] <Jumpie> i can embed a virus in a jpg
[00:11] <Ghostwolf> in a jpg yes cause there's meta data
[00:11] <Jumpie> alot of those p2p apps have planted mp3s
[00:11] <Ghostwolf> but id3 tags are no meta-data
[00:11] <Jumpie> as soon as the mp3 was copied to my hard drive from hers to my main
[00:11] <Jumpie> it detected it and cleaned it
[00:11] <Jumpie> it was a trojan
[00:11] <Jumpie> norton is just WAY WAY too system demanding
[00:11] <Jumpie> and it hooks too much soemtimes causing problems, and doesnt uninstall grace
[00:11] <Jumpie> plus BD is $20
[00:27] <TwisTbanG> soooo
[00:34] <Jumpie> TwisTbanG u good with any vb stuff
[00:34] <TwisTbanG> What does vb mean ? (probablly not LOL)
[00:37] <Jumpie> um..visual basic
[00:37] <Jumpie> lol
[00:37] <TwisTbanG> nope
[00:37] <TwisTbanG> All I do is play.
[00:49] <Jumpie> anyone a vb programmer here?
[00:50] <Jumpie> tryin to items.add a line of text and then a variable from a loop to combo b
[00:51] <Ghostwolf> wtf
[00:51] <Ghostwolf> my computer is randomly rebooting
[00:51] <Jumpie> h4x
[00:52] <Ghostwolf> I blame microsoft cause it was their bloody ie7 security update that chan
[00:52] <Jumpie> reollback
[00:58] <soma> lol
[00:58] <soma> ie security update.
[00:58] <soma> =P
[01:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:08] * jumpie2 is now known as Jumpie
[01:52] * intx_ is now known as intx
[01:52] <divxdude> anyone good with non-auto firewall setup? i'm usging Ghostwall fro x64 but
[01:53] <divxdude> why must firefox always use a different port how can i make it just use a
[01:53] <divxdude> ports*
[01:56] <et_> hey
[01:56] <et_> what os you on
[01:56] <divxdude> x64
[01:56] <et_> hmm
[01:56] <divxdude> xp
[01:56] <et_> i dont think they got it going on 64 atm
[01:57] <et_> why run 64bit os
[01:57] <et_> thats like asking for probs
[01:57] <et_> since it isnt mainstream yet
[01:57] <divxdude> got a dual core setup
[01:57] <et_> so
[01:57] <et_> that dont mean run a 64bit os
[01:57] <et_> or are you just running xp
[01:58] <divxdude> i got alot of work into this ... its xp.x64
[01:58] <et_> ohh
[01:58] <et_> i was hoping you said xp cuz i really love this fw made by jetico
[01:59] <divxdude> jetico ay
[01:59] <et_> yeah
[01:59] <et_> very nice stuff they got
[01:59] <divxdude> is it applicatuion based?
[01:59] <et_> well check em out
[01:59] <et_> maybe they geared up since i last looked
[01:59] <et_> but they are win base
[01:59] <divxdude> i triedt komodo and outpost really didnt like em
[02:00] <et_> so i havent looked in a while
[02:00] <et_> man back in the day the only other wall i really liked besides jetico was tiny
[02:00] <divxdude> zonalarm abandoned the x64 version
[02:00] <et_> pfft
[02:00] <et_> i dont like that crap
[02:00] <et_> za is stinky
[02:00] <et_> lol
[02:01] <et_> it doesnt really grant you full power
[02:01] <et_> and it wont stop like some win process
[02:01] <et_> like jetico asks even if you want win time server to connect
[02:01] <et_> and any little thing almost
[02:01] <divxdude> by aplication name tho right?
[02:01] <et_> it aks
[02:01] <et_> very bitchy
[02:02] <et_> and hash
[02:02] <et_> so if you update a proggie
[02:02] <et_> the rule changes
[02:02] <et_> cuz hash changed
[02:02] <divxdude> jetico works for xp.x64?
[02:02] <et_> also good for if someone tries to inject
[02:02] <et_> etc...
[02:02] <et_> i dont know
[02:02] <et_> check the site
[02:03] <divxdude> k
[02:03] <et_> http://www.jetico.com/
[02:03] <et_> most is freeware
[02:03] <et_> so they are preety cool
[02:04] <yoda-work> is there a way to download a whole directory off a webserver? I can acces
[02:04] <et_> maybe a web spider
[02:04] <et_> lol
[02:04] <yoda-work> there has to be a more legit way to do it..
[02:04] <et_> i used to have a cool one
[02:04] <et_> it would dl the whole site
[02:04] <et_> everything
[02:04] <et_> links
[02:05] <et_> and where the links went
[02:05] <yoda-work> thankgod I'm not you ;p
[02:05] <et_> etc...
[02:05] <et_> but you could set how far it would go with links
[02:05] <yoda-work> heh eye
[02:05] <et_> i would set it like to maybe 2
[02:05] <et_> was a neat tool
[02:05] <et_> i forgot what it was called
[02:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[02:06] <et_> it still would take the same time as doing it manualy
[02:06] <et_> just it was automated
[02:07] <et_> so you really dont need the software
[02:07] <et_> just do it manualy
[02:08] <yoda-work> it takes forever...
[02:17] <Kealle> I am trying to install (WinXP Pro 32Bit) "Audio Device on High Definition Au
[02:18] <Kealle> In addition, under device manager it has the yellow ! on it
[02:18] <Kealle> and it says the device is not working properly
[02:18] <Kealle> What can I do?
[02:18] <maherarar> Self-immolate.
[02:21] <hatwasher> Anyone know how to convert a .SUB file to an .SRT file? My google searche
[02:47] * _hemp is now known as hemp_
[03:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:14] * floats is now known as floatsaka
[03:49] <entaxi> hi i have a mirc problem
[03:49] <entaxi> can any of you help
[04:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:17] <eff> Hi, I have a windows server 2003 with two NICs. Both NICs has public ips. It se
[04:34] * _JPres is now known as JPres
[05:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:34] <j1m-> www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=71215
[05:35] <j1m-> www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=71215
[05:40] <n00b169> how do you make a batch file pause for a few seconds then continue?
[05:40] <n00b169> choice?
[05:44] <tetedupet> I have this .jar file that i'd like to print out, anyone know any softwar
[06:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[06:08] <deww> choice or sleep
[06:21] <cactus2> hi all
[06:22] <cactus2> I have a problem with firefox: I maybe have update firefox and now I have
[06:22] <phisher1> on behalf of everyone, hello
[06:22] <phisher1> each tab has its own x button
[06:23] <Kasc1990> I cut my hand and it's not scabbed over at all because the skin was left i
[06:23] <pixil> Is the skin puffy and red?
[06:24] <pixil> (around the wound)
[06:24] <Ghostwolf> cactus2: if you get really stuck delete C:\Documents and Settings\<use
[06:24] <Ghostwolf> this will force firefox to a default configuration
[06:24] <Kasc1990> slighty red close to the cut, is puffy swollen? then is so it isnt puffy
[06:24] <Ghostwolf> loosing all custom placements
[06:24] <cactus2> uhmm
[06:25] <Kasc1990> pixil, shall I take a picture
[06:25] <pixil> Kasc1990: Might be a minor infection. I would dab some peroxide on it, then
[06:25] <cactus2> uhm
[06:25] <cactus2> <Ghostwolf>: what I'll loose?
[06:26] <cactus2> the addons also?
[06:26] <Kasc1990> I doubt my parents have peroxide, or neosporin,
[06:26] <cactus2> and the preferites also?
[06:26] <deww> Kasc1990: what about alcohol
[06:26] <Ghostwolf> no
[06:27] <Ghostwolf> just custom settings
[06:27] <Kasc1990> I don't think so deww
[06:27] <cactus2> ok
[06:27] <Ghostwolf> like theme settings, etc
[06:27] <Ghostwolf> just rename it if unsure
[06:30] <cactus2> ok
[06:30] <cactus2> thanks
[06:30] <cactus2> :)
[06:34] <cactus2> ghostwolf
[06:34] <cactus2> I have tried but the problem ther is still
[06:35] <Ghostwolf> fire it up in safe mode then... that'll disable everything temporarily
[06:36] <Ghostwolf> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
[06:36] <cactus2> uhm ok
[06:38] <ebbtepid> how great would be the performance hit when getting a 2MB Cache instead of
[06:40] <Ghostwolf> depends on what you're doing... but usually noticable
[06:42] <ebbtepid> how noticeable?
[06:42] <ebbtepid> for a 2.0ghz 2gig ram
[06:42] <ebbtepid> duo core notebook
[06:42] <Ghostwolf> noticable
[06:42] <ebbtepid> like.. i should pay another $200 noticable?
[06:43] <Ghostwolf> depends on what you're doing
[06:43] <ebbtepid> graphic design
[06:43] <deww> most users won't notice the difference
[06:43] <ebbtepid> and many apps open at once
[06:43] <Ghostwolf> you won't notice much with those
[06:44] <ebbtepid> so when would i notice? for gaming?
[06:44] <Ghostwolf> anything with lots of repeating data
[06:45] <Ghostwolf> gaming, probably mathamatics (haven't checked), running sql
[06:49] <cactus2> ghostwolf
[06:49] <cactus2> how is possible that
[06:49] <Ghostwolf> is what?
[06:49] <cactus2> if I use the option: continue in safe mode
[06:49] <cactus2> it works
[06:50] <cactus2> while if I use to correct the error and to reboot firefox it doesn't work
[06:50] <cactus2> ?
[06:50] <cactus2> *works
[06:50] <Ghostwolf> so it's probably a plugin causing it
[06:50] <Ghostwolf> start disabling plugins 1 by 1
[06:50] <cactus2> ok
[06:52] <pixil> Those UFOs still circling Texas?
[06:52] <pixil> :o
[06:52] <Jumpie> haha
[06:52] <cactus2> ok
[06:52] <cactus2> thanks
[06:52] <pixil> It was an anal probe I tell ya!
[06:52] <Jumpie> i think its funny how the military is like 'ya um thats 2 airliners...and if
[06:52] <Jumpie> RIGHT
[06:52] <cactus2> it was skype plug in
[06:52] <cactus2> :)
[06:52] <cactus2> thank you very much
[06:52] <pixil> Jumpie: Par for the course...
[06:52] <Jumpie> how idiotic do they think people are
[06:52] <Ghostwolf> pixil: it's texus... probably random buck shot falling down...
[06:53] <pixil> Ghostwolf: Obviously you didn't hear much about it. :-)
[06:53] <Ghostwolf> the lake erie thing?
[06:53] <pixil> Uhm, no
[06:53] <Ghostwolf> no that's wrong area I guess
[06:53] <Ghostwolf> so tell me about it
[06:53] <pixil> That would be far north of Texas. :-)
[06:53] <pixil> Well, I actually thought I was starting the discussion in #helpchat. :-/
[06:54] <pixil> So, go over there for continuation.
[07:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:10] <yoda-work> hey, a quick html question... I have this line: <div><input type
[07:10] <yoda-work> it works great but I wanna make it so the input file window that pops up
[07:20] <bizinichi> is youtube down?
[07:21] <bizinichi> Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
[07:22] <xxl3w> When I'm in system information on XP and I'm looking at startup program under
[07:22] <xxl3w> where is the location "Startup"
[07:22] <xxl3w> I know commong startup is in the start menu.
[07:23] <Ghostwolf> bizinichi: seems to be
[07:23] <Ghostwolf> I can't grab it
[07:24] <bizinichi> xxl3w, you mean: C:\Documents and Settings\$username\Start Menu\Programs\
[07:24] <bizinichi> is that what you're talking about xxl3w?
[07:24] <Ghostwolf> xxl3w: 2 second google: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutoria
[07:25] <xxl3w> no, that's the "common startup" place
[07:30] <bizinichi> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shel
[07:30] <bizinichi> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User
[07:31] <bizinichi> theres a key there that tells it to go to your username's startup folder
[07:31] <bizinichi> for startup
[07:46] <xxl3w> ok, this guy's computer has about 1000+ things in the "Startup" location
[07:46] <xxl3w> and they're just random files, like a recent pdf he's opened
[07:46] <bizinichi> do they open up pdfs when he boots his computer?
[07:46] <bizinichi> wierd
[07:46] <xxl3w> they're not in msconfig or anything
[07:46] <xxl3w> no
[07:46] <xxl3w> it just takes a LONG load time
[07:46] <bizinichi> do they actually lead to a file?
[07:47] <xxl3w> yea
[07:47] <bizinichi> maybe explorer is searching for the nonexistant pdfs and takiung a long t
[07:47] <bizinichi> oh they exist
[07:47] <xxl3w> i'm wondering where the config is to get it out
[07:47] <xxl3w> heh
[07:49] <xxl3w> most of them are dll files
[07:49] <xxl3w> and i just looked again. they don't have a path on them
[07:49] <xxl3w> they just have the filename
[07:49] <xxl3w> so i bet that's why it's so slo
[07:51] <bizinichi> well if they dont have a path on them
[07:51] <bizinichi> theyre using the PATH variable, ie c:\windows or c:\windows\system32\
[07:51] <bizinichi> or what have you=, other common PATHs
[07:53] <xxl3w> so is the "Startup" location the user's startup folder?
[07:56] <xxl3w> i just thought about it
[07:56] <xxl3w> he has IE 6 installed. that could be the problem
[08:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:10] <Ghostwolf> oh? you caught his changing scheme?
[08:10] <stikupkid> A PC on our network has extremely slow upload speeds. I can DL a 15mb fil
[08:22] <pixil> Can anyone else get to en.wikipedia.org ?
[08:23] <Life^> yup
[08:25] <BIJJ> my brother try to do updates on this old laptop i got from a Computer Show, an
[08:26] <Jumpie> where does ti say that?
[08:26] <Jumpie> windows itself? or a program
[08:27] <phisher1> sounds like windows genuine thing
[08:27] <compdoc> sounds like a copy of windows
[08:27] <compdoc> you'll need to buy windows
[08:28] <phisher1> I believe once logged in it even pops up a thing in the sys tray that lead
[08:36] <Sculptor> hi!
[08:40] <BIJJ> when i start windows
[08:41] <BIJJ> theres no way to fix tha
[08:41] <BIJJ> with out buying the WINDOWS
[08:41] <KosheeN> you need a valid Key
[08:41] <KosheeN> there is a trick you could do but its complicated and you need to have the
[08:42] <KosheeN> but i can not discuss that here
[08:42] <BIJJ> whats that trick
[08:42] <KosheeN> but i can not discuss that here
[08:43] <KosheeN> no warez
[08:43] <BIJJ> pm me
[08:44] <hirogen2> hi all
[08:45] <hirogen2> i got a job interview but have to take a test on laptops winxp word 2003 f
[08:48] <Aff|n|ty> so today when I get on my computer, my mouse seems less responsive, but th
[08:49] <compdoc> some mice just suck. try adjusting the mouse in the control panel?
[08:50] <Aff|n|ty> well I've had this mouse for long enough to recognize this isn't normal be
[08:51] <compdoc> hit control alt delete - then task manager
[08:51] <compdoc> then the cpu tab
[08:51] <compdoc> lots of cpu usage?
[08:53] <Aff|n|ty> I rebooted when I first saw the problem, then after the reboot, I closed o
[08:54] <Aff|n|ty> could it a hard drive dying cause this?
[08:55] <compdoc> cant say - dont member seeing it do that, but anything is possible
[08:55] <compdoc> do you have a non-MS mouse driver?
[08:56] <Sweden> hello
[08:56] <Sweden> i need some help?
[08:57] <Sweden> somebody ?
[08:57] <Sculptor> yes?
[08:58] <Sweden> i need help with credit card numbers #
[08:58] <Aff|n|ty> nope, I have a logitech mouse with drivers in windows. I've used this mou
[08:58] <Sweden> canals some canals i can get into
[08:58] <compdoc> only way to know is try a new mouse
[08:58] <Aff|n|ty> yeah, I guess you're right
[08:58] <Aff|n|ty> let me scrounge one up, I'll be back
[08:58] <Sweden> can you help me?
[08:59] <Aff|n|ty> depends on how illegal your inquiry about credit cards is
[08:59] <compdoc> help with canals? I dont even own a boat
[08:59] <Sweden> i know but
[08:59] <Sweden> canal like this #hELP 205 CANAL
[08:59] <Sweden> BUT FOR CREDIT
[08:59] <compdoc> channel?
[08:59] <Sweden> channel
[08:59] <Sweden> haha yes
[09:00] <Sweden> exaclty
[09:00] <compdoc> they wont let you in the channel?
[09:00] <Aff|n|ty> oh, credit card channels? that sounds like illegal business
[09:00] <compdoc> what kind of help with credit cards you looking for?
[09:00] <good> anyone known what command to restart a linux vps ?
[09:01] <compdoc> try 'reboot'
[09:01] <deww> it isn't the regulr shutdown and reboot?
[09:01] <Sweden> numbers compdoc
[09:01] <Sweden> of creditcard
[09:02] <compdoc> you want us to help you steal money from some innocent person?
[09:02] <Sweden> hahahaha
[09:02] <Sweden> no
[09:02] <Sweden> i dont mean
[09:02] <Sweden> so
[09:02] <Sweden> no
[09:03] <Sweden> you cant help me a fuck
[09:03] <deww> compdoc: A FUCK
[09:03] <compdoc> :(
[09:03] <good> thx
[09:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[09:10] <Lindy_> and it isnt even a full moon
[09:12] <compdoc> If youre gonna cus someone out, its critical to get the grammar right
[09:18] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[09:27] <Jumpie> is ther ea way to make a youtube video loop
[09:27] <Ghostwolf> quit youtubing porn Jumpie
[09:27] <Jumpie> haha
[09:27] <Jumpie> i wanna listen to this tiesto song on loop while im play ut2k4
[09:28] <Ghostwolf> http://www.jakeludington.com/dv_hacks/20061014_automatically_loop_a_youtu
[09:34] <Jumpie> ry
[09:34] <Jumpie> ty
[09:37] <Evacuee> How do I find out my hard drive serial number
[09:37] <Evacuee> ?
[09:39] <Blue_Wolf> start>control panel>system
[09:39] <xxl3w> is there anyway to bypage the runonce on IE 7?
[09:39] <xxl3w> for some reason http://runonce.msn.com/runonce2.aspx is timing out
[09:40] <Evacuee> yeah...
[09:40] <xxl3w> crap
[09:40] <xxl3w> microsoft is awesome.
[09:42] <Blue_Wolf> device manager
[09:42] <Blue_Wolf> expand the disks and choose the choosen one then right click => detail
[09:46] <Aff|n|ty> compdoc, still around?
[09:46] <Aff|n|ty> guess not
[09:47] <Aff|n|ty> so my sluggish mouse sorted itself out. wtf. I wake up, it's slow, and u
[09:47] <Aff|n|ty> weeeeeiiiiiirrrrrrrdddddddd
[09:47] <GMouth> stay off the drugs!
[09:48] <Treval> Then that means something was running, in my view.
[09:48] <Treval> What interrupts a mouse?
[09:48] <Treval> What priority is a mouse on?
[09:48] <pixil> Blue_Wolf: You have some script that colors your text for you?
[09:48] <Aff|n|ty> the drugs have worn off by this morning
[09:52] <Andre66> how can I find out when a host TTL will expire?
[09:53] <pixil> That doesn't make sense.
[09:53] <pixil> Hosts don't have TTLs.
[09:53] <pixil> Packets have TTLs.
[09:53] <Andre66> okay so all the hosts within the zone expire at the same time?
[09:54] <pixil> No. All the packets do.
[09:54] <phisher1> All DNS records have a TTL property, specifying the amount of time other D
[09:54] <pixil> Yeah, I guess there's a whole range of things you COULD be talking about.
[09:55] <pixil> Andre66: What are you trying to accomplish or figure out? :-)
[09:55] <Andre66> I would like to know when a host such as mail.testing.com will expire from
[09:55] <phisher1> Andre66: dig TTL host @nameserver
[09:56] <phisher1> if using dig of course..
[09:56] <phisher1> other tools, i'm not sure
[09:56] <Andre66> I got a authority section result of 9774
[09:57] <phisher1> do it again, that # should be lower
[09:57] <Andre66> ah yes, here we go. com. 2461 IN NS A.GTLD-
[09:57] <onslaugt> I'm having a weird issue. I have users in a WAN site connected via IPSec t
[09:57] <phisher1> yes
[09:58] <Andre66> shouldn't it say the host I entered instead of saying just .com ?
[09:58] <phisher1> depends on your query
[09:58] <Life^> onslaugt: Umm, not necessairily odd ;) Single server setup by chance?
[09:59] <Life^> onslaugt: I've seen that a bunch for many reasons. One of which is that IIS
[09:59] <Life^> also is it just OWA or is it everything?
[09:59] <Life^> and lastly have you checked dns?
[09:59] <phisher1> actually, tbh not sure what that is, since that looks like a root server r
[10:00] <Life^> It's like 50% a dns issue. Where what happens on a wan is alot of times they
[10:00] <Life^> unless you appended the appropriate dns suffix
[10:00] <Andre66> question query has the correct host but it is very strange how it just says
[10:01] <phisher1> show me your query
[10:02] <Andre66> http://pastebin.com/m53999339
[10:04] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[10:04] <phisher1> Andre66: that nameserver isn't fully recursive
[10:05] <phisher1> or isn't allowing you to do recursive queries
[10:05] <pixil> drop mail. off the query
[10:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[10:06] <DinCahill> hi. does anyone know any uk website to buy SATA hard drives from cheaply?
[10:06] <phisher1> don't see why that would make a difference
[10:07] <xxl3w> I cannot find where certain startup files are running. I've checked msconfig
[10:07] <xxl3w> it's a TON of files
[10:07] <phisher1> xxl3w: try hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft\windows\current_version\r
[10:08] <xxl3w> sys info would give that patch
[10:08] <xxl3w> path
[10:08] <xxl3w> it gives certain files under that path and common startup
[10:08] <xxl3w> common startup is the start menu folder. this location is just "Startup"
[10:09] <xxl3w> most of the time, everything will come up in msconfig, but all the files unde
[10:09] <Sammich`> can anyone tell me where this ip is from
[10:09] <Sammich`> 62.57.253.179.dyn.user.ono.com
[10:10] <deww> spain
[10:10] <Sammich`> ty
[10:11] <phisher1> google for ip locater next time
[10:11] <phisher1> locator too
[10:11] <Sammich`> ty
[10:13] <d--> anyone know why my burner will burn dvds fine but not cds
[10:14] <phisher1> tried more than one brand of cdr ?
[10:14] <ASk> d--: the cd laser died
[10:14] <phisher1> has it ever burned cdr?
[10:14] <Pacino88> hey
[10:14] <Pacino88> is there a crystal reports channel around here?
[10:14] <phisher1> I hope not
[10:15] <d--> ya awhile back and tried diff brands
[10:15] <Pacino88> anybody experienced with crystal reports?
[10:15] <d--> it wasnt used much but its a pioneer dvr110d i think
[10:15] <phisher1> welp, ask may be right
[10:16] <d--> kinda wierd it would die so quick maybe 30-40 cds in the 2yrs or about that i t
[10:16] <Pacino88> maybe dust in laser?
[10:17] <Pacino88> tbh if my cd burner died i wouldnt give a fuck
[10:17] <Pacino88> i would get a new one with dvd burner and better speed for 20 bucks
[10:17] <d--> ha i guess
[10:17] <Pacino88> but thats me
[10:17] <d--> whats a pretty decent brand
[10:17] <Pacino88> there are worse things in life that needs attention
[10:17] <Pacino88> pioneer
[10:17] <d--> so pioneer still doin good
[10:18] <Pacino88> i have installed about 4/5 pioneers in different computers.. all work grea
[10:18] <Pacino88> before i had NEC, also good
[10:18] <d--> ya had a nec 3520
[10:18] <d--> just wasnt sure
[10:23] <iroiro> why spinning top won't fall? (in simple words if you please ^^)
[10:23] <Lindy_> gravity
[10:24] <c|oneman> what's it called again
[10:24] <c|oneman> angular momentum I think
[10:24] <Lindy_> yeah
[10:24] <Lindy_> actually centrifugal force
[10:24] <xxl3w> this startup problem is crazy. i've never seen anything like this
[10:25] <c|oneman> I think it's the same reason why a bicycle works
[10:25] <Armegeden> hello's. anyone know if there is any way to record clips longer than 60 s
[10:26] <Armegeden> or can u recommend a simple freeware sound recorder instead?
[10:26] <xxl3w> does anyone know where all the locations are in winxp sys information?
[10:26] <Lindy_> ircboring http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-87262.html
[10:26] <deww> Armegeden: audacity
[10:26] <Lindy_> read that
[10:26] <iroiro> c|oneman as far as i learned today, bicycles work differently
[10:27] <Armegeden> ty deww
[10:27] <c|oneman> I don't remember
[10:28] <c|oneman> I just remember this sick thing, where the teacher held a bicycle wheel wi
[10:28] <c|oneman> spun the wheel, held it by the string, and it stayed vertical
[10:28] <Lindy_> but that doesnt have to be on an angle
[10:32] <c|oneman> http://youtube.com/watch?v=P014jvaB3ic
[10:33] <Xtrem> lu ki peut m aider svop
[10:33] <phisher1> L'anglais seulement.
[10:34] <Xtrem> t francai
[10:34] <Xtrem> phiser
[10:34] <Xtrem> ???
[10:34] <phisher1> English only.
[10:34] <Xtrem> nn
[10:34] <Xtrem> ecouter moi la
[10:34] <Xtrem> comment on fait pour seek war sur counter strike ici
[10:35] <c|oneman> t'es pas au bon endoit. C'est pas un channel de gamer
[10:35] <Xtrem> il faut aller ou
[10:35] <Xtrem> stp repond
[10:36] <phisher1> Use the in-game browser
[10:36] <phisher1> or QuakeNet
[10:38] <Xtrem> nn c pas sa
[10:38] <phisher1> ENGLISH
[10:39] <phisher1> Nous parlons anglais ici.
[10:40] <Xtrem> je ne sais pas parler english
[10:40] <Xtrem> je sais parler ke french
[10:40] <Xtrem> dsl
[10:40] <deww> he called you a DSL
[10:40] <deww> omg
[10:40] <Xtrem> phisher
[10:40] <Xtrem> c pas bon les serv ke tu ma donner
[10:40] <Xtrem> tu connai encore koi
[10:41] * KosheeN is now known as Kosh|Away
[10:41] <Xtrem> rep stp
[10:41] <Xtrem> en english si tu veu mes rep
[10:41] <phisher1> Xtrem: http://quakenet.org/
[10:43] <FreeSpeec> ?
[10:46] <d--> why are plextor burners so high in price compared to most
[10:51] <Hastor2> What dept of my city would I call about having a street light replaced? Ton
[10:52] <Lindy_> engineering
[10:53] <Hastor2> ok ill try that
[10:54] <c|oneman> an engineer to replace a lightbulb?
[10:54] <Lindy_> here it is :)
[10:54] <Lindy_> seems like everything here is engineering
[10:55] <Lindy_> hastor what city are you in ?
[11:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[11:06] <Chura> hey
[11:07] <Chura> I need help :) for few hours i cant surf websites, however my msnger, mail, m
[11:07] <Chura> Vista 32bit os
[11:11] <Hastor2> chura: if you try to open network and sharing center does it open or screw
[11:15] <Hastor2> chura: if you try to open network and sharing center does it open or screw
[11:15] <Phalanx> How on earth do I create a table in Orcale, or transfer a table into it, so
[11:15] <Phalanx> *Oracle
[11:15] <Hastor2> ok i think he got bigger probs heh
[11:16] <Chura> Sorry, i'm back
[11:16] <Hastor2> Chura: you see my ques?
[11:16] <Chura> Hastor, no, i've just tried to connect to my neighbor WLAN network to elimina
[11:16] <Chura> yes, and i can open it
[11:16] <Hastor2> you can open network and sharing center and get details about your connecti
[11:16] <Chura> yep
[11:17] <Hastor2> (not in command prompt)
[11:17] <phisher1> Phalanx: do you even have your fields and field types mapped out for this
[11:17] <Chura> yep
[11:17] <Hastor2> Chura: hmm i dunno i had a problem similar but that crashed too, i had to f
[11:17] <Chura> what fix ?
[11:17] <Phalanx> phi: I've got an example of a table in my book here, and want to create it
[11:17] <Hastor2> it would give and error when i opened network and sharing center but intern
[11:17] <Hastor2> umm hang ok
[11:18] <Chura> i suspect the NOD32
[11:18] <phisher1> Phalanx: you're going to need to learn some basics 1st
[11:18] <phisher1> but you can always google for oracle create table
[11:18] <phisher1> you'll come up with quite a few examples
[11:19] * E_T` is now known as et__
[11:19] <floatbit> hi
[11:20] <floatbit> my hard drive is reporting the wrong boot sector
[11:20] <floatbit> :?
[11:20] <floatbit> is there any way to fix that or is the drive trashed?
[11:20] <Phalanx> Thanks phi, can't believe I neglected to search for that before coming here
[11:20] <Hastor2> Chura: that could be it, mine was before i tried NOD32, but a lot of vista
[11:20] <phisher1> negelected to search for the exact thing you need help on..
[11:21] * phisher1 sighs
[11:21] <Hastor2> dammit
[11:22] <Chura> not helping :(
[11:24] <Hastor2> that fixed all my probs so long as i dont need a user that isnt admin but i
[11:25] <et__> whats wrong
[11:25] <et__> maybe i can help
[11:26] <Hastor2> ask chura if he makes it back
[11:26] <et__> 10-4
[11:27] <Lindy_> hastor did you find the right dept ?
[11:28] <et__> the help dept?
[11:28] <Hastor2> Lindy_: yeah i called engineering which was the same # as a few other listi
[11:28] <Hastor2> thanks
[11:28] <Lindy_> ahh ok cool
[11:28] <Hastor2> pitch black cul-de-sac and had big robberies in past month
[11:28] <iroiro> is it 'fourty-one minute' or 'fourty-one minutes'?
[11:30] <Lindy_> ahh yeah that will do it
[11:31] <Lindy_> minutes
[11:31] <Lindy_> and forty
[11:31] <Lindy_> nor fourty
[11:31] <Lindy_> no u in it
[11:31] <iroiro> oh~
[11:32] <iroiro> thanks)
[11:33] <Lindy_> welcome
[11:33] <Basmaster> hey I have a Linux Process running in the background i started with & h
[11:37] <Syndic4t3> I'm looking for a reptile help channel
[11:37] <deww> fg
[11:38] <Syndic4t3> anyone know of such channel?
[11:38] <deww> Basmaster: fg jobnum or fg pidnum
[11:39] <Basmaster> and once switched how do i get back to cli
[11:39] <deww> Syndic4t3: no. but you can try searching on www.netsplit.de
[11:39] <deww> Basmaster: you mean send it back to the background?
[11:39] <Basmaster> ya
[11:39] <deww> ctrl-z; bg
[11:39] <deww> ctrl-z to suspend it, bg to send it back to the background
[11:41] <Zarxrax> I have a netgear wgr614 router, and i can't get this darn thing to work rig
[11:41] <deww> i no no experience with that device.
[11:41] <deww> i have no experience even
[11:52] <Chrisglie> How do you add a picture of yourself to Facebook without deleting other p
[12:02] <c|oneman> dmz suxors
[12:04] <Chrisglie> ys dmz f'n n00bz
[12:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[12:20] <Choke_Rod> can somebody help me remove a popup?
[12:20] <Choke_Rod> having spyware problems, bigtime
[12:20] <Choke_Rod> I have a hijack log...
[12:20] <Jumpie> i need some help with god of war 2 :P
[12:25] <gprocess> Hi, I have a 60gig ipod video which is now showing the white screen of dea
[12:25] <gprocess> anyone got any tips ?
[12:25] <gprocess> i've tried following the resets and i don't get the apple logo, just the w
[12:25] <gprocess> is there a hard reset i can do?
[12:26] <Kor> you did the hold on/hold off/ then select + play?
[12:27] <Sculptor> should i say "Arnolds' arrival" or"Arnolds' arrival"
[12:27] <Sculptor> *Arnolds's
[12:27] <gprocess> yep
[12:27] <gprocess> I tried all that
[12:27] <Kor> did you try hooking it up to the PC?
[12:28] <Kor> sculptor; who is arriving?
[12:28] <Sculptor> Kor, that's not relevant
[12:28] <Sculptor> Arnolds' hat or Arnolds's har
[12:28] <Sculptor> hat*
[12:28] <gprocess> i just get the white screen when i plug it in
[12:29] <Kor> it is relevant
[12:29] <Kor> is it one guy name arnold?
[12:29] <Kor> is the arnolds?
[12:29] <Sculptor> yeah, arnolds
[12:29] <Sculptor> a german name
[12:29] <Kor> then I believe it's arnolds's arrival
[12:29] <Sculptor> it ends with 's'
[12:29] <Sculptor> isn't 's' ommited
[12:30] <Nilisco> arnolds'
[12:30] <Sculptor> great
[12:30] <Sculptor> thanks
[12:30] <Nilisco> well, I think, might want to get another opinion
[12:30] <Sculptor> haven't read english grammar in ages
[12:31] <xxl3w> i have a dell precision M90 and the network configuration keeps hanging on bo
[12:31] <xxl3w> the computer boots really fast but when i try to open IE or go to network con
[12:32] <Nilisco> Sculptor, looks like both arnolds' and arnold's are correct, arnold's is a
[12:32] <xxl3w> i just updated IE 6 to IE 7. that's when the problem started
[12:32] <Nilisco> er, not arnold's, arnolds's
[12:33] * Kosh|Away is now known as KosheeN
[12:33] <Mosta> Hello, does anyone know any .gif editing software? I want to slow down an alr
[12:34] <gprocess> type freeware gif animation software in google
[12:34] <Nilisco> while I think google is useful, that's a pretty worthless earch
[12:34] <Nilisco> search
[12:34] <Nilisco> check out the results: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=freeware+gif+an
[12:35] <Nilisco> it basically just lists every sort of FREE-SOFTWARE-REVIEW.COM site
[12:35] <Mosta> Thanks
[12:35] <gprocess> hehe yeah, but the tucows one was alright
[12:36] <Nilisco> tucows is freeware files now?
[12:36] <gprocess> didn't they used to have a few freeware ones on ?
[12:36] <Nilisco> heck if I know
[12:37] <gprocess> if anything, there will be a 30 day trial type software which would do the
[12:37] <rhelic> gprocess: to do what?
[12:38] <Mosta> I just want to slow down a gif. Hope it wont take more than 30 days =)
[12:38] <gprocess> mosta wanted to slow a animated gif down
[12:38] <gprocess> so my ipod is pretty much dead then....
[12:38] <MrPockets> dude, the CCTV systems that are remote accessable.
[12:38] <Nilisco> what's wrong with it?
[12:38] <MrPockets> how hard would it be to hack them?
[12:39] <gprocess> i've got the white screen of death
[12:39] <gprocess> and i've tried all the hold and menu select resets
[12:39] <gprocess> not sure what to do now
[12:39] <KaMiKaZa> Apple crashes alot
[12:39] <gprocess> can i take it apart, unplug the hdd
[12:39] <gprocess> and format it ?
[12:40] <Nilisco> that probably won't fix anything if you can't start it in disk mode and do
[12:40] <Nilisco> gprocess, is it still under warranty?
[12:40] <KaMiKaZa> yes = go to fix it
[12:40] <KaMiKaZa> no = help in here
[12:40] <KaMiKaZa> no is faster go with no
[12:41] <gprocess> nope not under warranty
[12:41] <KaMiKaZa> Good call.
[12:41] <Nilisco> yes - "then why the hell are you opening it?"
[12:41] <Nilisco> don't be an idio KaMiKaZa, there are plenty of reasons to ask that.
[12:41] <Nilisco> gprocess, does it start in disk mode?
[12:41] <KaMiKaZa> infact, nope
[12:41] <gprocess> nope it doesn't :(
[12:42] <john-l> my paper is feeding through my printer
[12:42] <gprocess> it just goes to the white screen
[12:42] <john-l> continusously, with nothing printing out
[12:42] <gprocess> and repeatedly does this
[12:43] <rhelic> in the XP login screen, how can I log in as the local admin account, there's
[12:44] <KaMiKaZa> Safemode
[12:44] <rhelic> there has to be a way to bring it up in normal mode
[12:44] <KaMiKaZa> YEs
[12:44] <KaMiKaZa> Control Panel -> User Accounts
[12:44] <Nilisco> gprocess, I used this in the past successfully: http://www.crunchgear.com/2
[12:45] <Nilisco> gprocess, also might want to try this while the ipod is open: http://www.bl
[12:45] <gprocess> did you get yours going again Nilisco ?
[12:45] <Nilisco> yes, with the business card trick
[12:45] <Nilisco> it was a 5g photo
[12:48] <gprocess> cool
[12:48] <Life^> heh
[12:49] <Life^> KaMiKaZa: What exacty are outrying to accomlish hee?
[12:49] <Life^> *hee
[12:49] <Life^> *here
[12:49] <Life^> stuid r
[12:49] <pixil> and pee :-/
[12:49] <Life^> OMG keyboard sucks lol
[12:49] <pixil> or 'p'
[12:49] <pixil> yeah
[12:49] <pixil> :-(
[12:49] <Life^> hahahaha yeah I dunno what was going on there.
[12:56] <MrSock> Hi all. i have a question about installing iis. Where's the best place to
[12:56] <Life^> MrSock: Just ask?
[12:56] <Life^> but ask quick cause I've got to go in a few mins ;)
[12:56] <Life^> lol
[12:57] <Life^> othrewise ask in #Windows2003 ;)
[12:57] <MrSock> i'm supposed to install iis, but the link i was provided doesn't work. Can
[12:57] <MrSock> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
[12:58] <rhelic> wtf did this recruiter in Alabama phone harrass me so much, whem I'm in New
[12:59] <rhelic> MrSock: IIS is on your Windows Server CD, but if you have a specific questio
[12:59] <MrSock> i have a windows server cd?
[13:00] <rhelic> ugh, my 10mbit connection is making out at 15K/sec, I hate calling the peopl
[13:01] <MrSock> i just really want to know which version i'm supposed to install. i
[13:01] <Sculptor> disconnect neighbor computer wiz kid from your home wireless network, rhel
[13:01] <MrSock> m guesing from the link it's ver2?
[13:01] <Grayf0x`> hi, I've recently installed windows xp on a partition on a sata drive.. no
[13:01] <rhelic> MrSock: there's only 1 version of IIS you can install, the one on your CD :P
[13:01] <Chrisglie> How do you masturbate?
[13:01] <Grayf0x`> basically I want the partition on the SATA drive to be both system and boo
[13:02] <pixil> Chrisglie: Not here, please.
[13:02] <MrSock> rhelic - are you trying, in a round-about way, to say that iis is a purchase
[13:02] <MrSock> cuz that'd be a way more helpful way of saying that
[13:03] <rhelic> MrSock: ever since 2003 Server, IIS is tied to your server OS, you can't pur
[13:03] <MrSock> how do i know if i'm running a server OS? i'm running windows XP MCE
[13:03] <rhelic> so IIS6 comes with 2003 Server... iis7 comes with 2008 Server...
[13:03] <rhelic> IIS use to be a seperate product in 2000 and earlier, but that's over
[13:04] <rhelic> MrSock: you're not, XP is a desktop OS
[13:04] <MrSock> is there a learning edition or a home server or something?
[13:04] <pixil> IIS works fine in XP and can be legally copied from a 2003 server disk.
[13:04] <MrSock> i'm just trying to run a home development server for testing purposes
[13:04] <rhelic> MrSock: there's a type of mini IIS on your XP cd
[13:04] <rhelic> MrSock: which web programming language do you plan on using?
[13:04] <pixil> That might be what I'm thinking of.
[13:04] <_Life^> bleh
[13:04] <pixil> Fully functional IIS, but it limits connections to 10 or something.
[13:04] <MrSock> i'm trying to integrate a web game into a publisher's framework
[13:05] <MrSock> i reached the part in the docs that says this:
[13:05] <rhelic> MrSock: which language?
[13:05] <MrSock> 1. Make sure IIS is installed. Refer to http://www.microsoft.com/resources/
[13:05] <rhelic> pixil: yea, it's actually PWS renamed to IIS
[13:05] <pixil> I copied IIS from server 2003.
[13:05] <pixil> It worked, but it limited me to 10 concurrent connections at a time
[13:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[13:05] <_Life^> heh bleh
[13:05] <rhelic> MrSock: Control Panel > Add/Remove Ppograms > Windows Components and
[13:06] * MrSock looks
[13:06] <rhelic> MrSock: you'll need your XP disc to install it, of course
[13:06] <MrSock> that's fine
[13:06] <_Life^> hmm wonder which server just crashed lol
[13:06] <rhelic> _Life^: irc.nac.net has been acting up
[13:07] <rhelic> MrSock: yea on the left side there's an icon that says "Add/Remove Windows C
[13:07] <hiro_prot> so I work for a 501(c)(3), and its illegal for nonprofits to do political
[13:08] <Grayf0x`> anyone?
[13:08] <rhelic> MrSock: when you click that a Windows box pops up, and there's a checkbox f
[13:09] <Kalagaraz> Is it possible to download 2 different files using 2 different broadband
[13:10] <Nilisco> yes, look into load balancing
[13:10] <Nilisco> I think the dslreports forums have some good information on it
[13:10] <MrSock> thanks, rhelic. that's extremely helpful.
[13:10] <rhelic> Kalagaraz: yes, but it's not free nor cheap
[13:11] <Chrisglie> IM LEAVIN IO N A JETPLANE DONT KNOW WHEN ILL BE BACK AGAIN
[13:12] <pixil> Hopefully it's your own jetplan and you crash and burn.
[13:12] <Grayf0x`> anyone have a solution to my problem please?
[13:12] <rhelic> *cough* troll *cough*
[13:13] <pixil> Grayf0x`: Didn't see you ask anything.
[13:13] <MrPockets> so dude
[13:13] <Grayf0x`> I did, way up ^
[13:13] <MrPockets> if my 80 gig HDD is bad right now, and causing the BSOD now and then
[13:13] <MrPockets> will it still cause a BSOD if i use it as a slave for storage, and the OS
[13:14] <pixil> Less likely, I would think.
[13:14] <rhelic> let me reboot this darn cable modem and see if it starts acting right
[13:15] <pixil> Grayf0x`: So, it just changed drive letters? Did you go into device manager,
[13:15] <MrPockets> God damn. ive got a 200 gig exturnal HDD, with 150 gigs free
[13:15] <MrPockets> and it says theres not enough space to copy over a 4 gig folder
[13:16] <Lindy_> is it reading to the wrong drive ?
[13:16] <Nilisco> mrln, fat32?
[13:16] <Grayf0x`> pixil: yeah i'm in there now.. I don't understand why it has assigned the
[13:16] <Nilisco> er MrPockets, fat32?
[13:17] <MrPockets> NO idea what this is partitioned as
[13:17] <MrPockets> im assuming its NTFS
[13:17] <Grayf0x`> i've looked in the registry and the BootDie is set to H:.. I changed it ba
[13:17] <Nilisco> find out, start, run, diskmgmt.msc
[13:17] <MrPockets> 'eh
[13:17] <Grayf0x`> BootDir*
[13:17] <MrPockets> its my moms HDD, i'd hate to fuck something up. all the other folders see
[13:17] <MrPockets> or...
[13:18] <MrPockets> you see, im preparing to swap this bad HDD for the new one, and backing
[13:18] <MrPockets> up
[13:18] <MrPockets> so can i just plug this one in as slave, and go through the directory and
[13:20] * _Life^ is now known as Life^
[13:21] <pixil> Grayf0x`: I guess I don't either. I'd have to play around disk manager to fi
[13:22] <Grayf0x`> pixil: what if I set the IDE drive to slave? would that stop windows from
[13:23] <BetaBrain> anyone know a quick/easy way to remove vundo?
[13:28] <pixil> Grayf0x`: I don't know why your system is doing it. So, I can't be sure of t
[13:29] <Grayf0x`> pixil: ok cheers, i'ma go give it a shot
[13:29] <Grayf0x`> bye
[13:31] <Sebboh> Can I make Administrator show up on the welcome screen in winxp?
[13:31] <crptx> yes
[13:31] <pixil> I think control panel => users, Sebboh.
[13:32] <pixil> Long time no see, by the way :-)
[13:32] <crptx> control panels... user... then deselect both optionsa
[13:32] <crptx> deselect enable fast switching and the other one
[13:32] <Sebboh> hi pix?l. :)
[13:32] <pixil> heh
[13:33] <Sebboh> I like fast user switching.
[13:33] <Sebboh> It's 2008. :)
[13:33] <crptx> er that will give you the classic way to login
[13:34] <crptx> where you type in admin*/pass
[13:34] <Sebboh> yes
[13:35] <Sebboh> To make administrator show up in the welcome screen list, though, edit some
[13:37] <pixil> Is 802.11N defined yet?
[13:37] <pixil> It's not a written standard, yet right?
[13:38] <Nilisco> still draft
[13:38] <pixil> Amazing how many vendors are implmenting and toughting it as a "standard"
[13:38] <pixil> Is draft publicly available?
[13:47] <deww> Draft N, N as in never.
[13:48] <BIJJ> i have a Hard Drive i need to check , and im connecting it to my computer , bu
[13:48] <BIJJ> how can i by pass that
[13:49] <HckrMom> anyone around
[13:49] <Kalagaraz> Can you use a flat panel computer monitor as a TV? I want to get a afford
[13:49] <HckrMom> i got really drunk last night and married a nigger
[13:49] <Kalagaraz> They had 26" monitors at office max for $350
[13:49] <HckrMom> do i need to get a divorce
[13:50] <HckrMom> if it was just one of those drive by window weddings in vegas
[13:55] <estranger> man. the more I use trixbox the more I love it
[13:55] <pixil> That's what I hear
[13:56] <estranger> im totally switching my home phone to SIP+Trixbox
[13:56] <estranger> get DID numbers in all the area codes I have family, one for pimpin, and
[13:57] <estranger> s/hand//
[14:00] <john-l> http://magicjack.com/site/index.html
[14:00] <john-l> anyone familiar with this
[14:03] <pixil> voip is news?
[14:03] <john-l> this particular one is
[14:03] <john-l> its not really voip
[14:04] <john-l> its supposedly better than
[14:04] <john-l> more stable and high qual
[14:04] <john-l> higher
[14:04] <pixil> It's voip.
[14:05] <pixil> I'm sure the device works great. It's the Internet, that doesn't.
[14:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[14:06] <john-l> it doesn't under the internet
[14:06] <john-l> i dont know much about it frankly
[14:07] <john-l> but i pay 70 bucks a month on my phone and i'd like to get rid of it
[14:07] <john-l> my internet connection needs a landline though
[14:08] <pixil> You plug it into any computer "with an internet connection".
[14:08] <pixil> Free Local and Long distance.
[14:08] <pixil> It's voip.
[14:09] <john-l> how would i get internet if i got rid of my landline
[14:09] <pixil> Huh?
[14:10] <john-l> my dsl connection says i need to have a landline
[14:10] <pixil> You do.
[14:10] <john-l> i don't know the technological alternatives
[14:10] <john-l> if there are any
[14:10] <pixil> The reality is, I can't say how the device works, because the site won't tell
[14:10] <pixil> It sounds awfully scam-ish to me.
[14:11] <pixil> The website is very poorly designed, too. That should give some sort of indi
[14:11] <john-l> not necessarily
[14:11] <pixil> True
[14:12] <john-l> there are plenty of great looking scamolas
[14:12] <john-l> they hav to look good because theres no meat on the bone
[14:16] <TheUni> if i have a forwarded x session running a 3d multimedia app, do i need to ha
[14:17] <TheUni> host, no?
[14:19] <lowpro321> can someone please help me with a few math questions; just got back in cl
[14:20] <lowpro321> -4, 2 1/3, square root of 25, square root of 7, 3.3333333, -8, (pie) 3.14
[14:21] <jackal^> lowpro321, read the topic
[14:21] <lowpro321> WHOOPS
[14:21] <lowpro321> wait
[14:21] <lowpro321> its not homework
[14:21] <lowpro321> its just a review for us to know
[14:25] * lowpro321 is now known as Quagmire1
[14:26] <john-l> is there a way to see what particular are bidding on at a given time on ebay
[14:26] <mAOE> I wonder whats ANti Alising? in gaming? Crysis? i got good computer.. what ant
[14:26] <mAOE> off or 2 4 6 8 ?
[14:27] <mAOE> what does it do?
[14:27] <mAOE> off to get frame ? doesnt lose any GFX stuffs?
[14:28] <Nightwork> It basically smooths things out so that jaggies are less evident.
[14:29] <Nightwork> I would run it at whatever gives you good framerates. There is a perform
[14:32] <Tom-LV30> is it illegal in any way to drop a stink bomb in a public building?
[14:32] <Lindy_> oh our troll meter is full
[14:38] <dirtpoor> anyone know the default ip of a belkin wifi router?
[14:39] <dirtpoor> I can't seem to access the manual on the cd, and the stupid tech support i
[14:39] <Pocketlap> yooo
[14:40] <dirtpoor> aarrgg!!
[14:41] <PocketM> so if a dudes got a 320 gig sATA HDD as his single and primary HDD
[14:41] <PocketM> is it a good idea to make it into two partitions
[14:41] <PocketM> a smaller say 60 gig for the OS, the the rest for storage?
[14:41] <ihiturmom> how do I use a botnet?
[14:41] <Pocketlap> GTFO
[14:42] <ihiturmom> y u mean?
[14:42] <Osc> ihiturmom please read the topic, thanks
[14:44] <OggyLappy> Question
[14:44] <LoCal> answer
[14:44] <Pocketlap> yes?
[14:44] <OggyLappy> can anyone explain to me what an international passport is for a laptop?
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[14:46] <Copafield> my 'guess' would be for international warranty
[14:46] <LoCal> nope
[14:46] <LoCal> my guess would be tax crap
[14:50] <Pocketlap> Netstumbler doesnt crack WEP does it?
[14:50] <Torob> what do you call those small pillows you put on the couch?
[14:50] <Pocketlap> throw pillows?
[14:50] <Torob> i donno lol
[14:50] <Pocketlap> yeha
[14:50] <LoCal> (Pocketlap): can you read topic ?
[14:50] <Torob> spot on, yay for google images :D
[14:51] <Torob> ty
[14:51] <Pocketlap> LoCal ...can you?
[14:51] <cyn_> lol
[14:51] * cyn_ is now known as Yn
[14:51] * Yn is now known as cYn
[14:52] <LoCal> Pocketlap - General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/
[14:52] <LoCal> i think WEP cracking would be illega
[14:52] <LoCal> l
[14:52] <Pocketlap> under what law?
[14:52] <Pocketlap> and I didnt ask how to, or imply I was attempting to do so
[14:52] <Pocketlap> i simply asked if a program had the ability.
[14:53] <LoCal> hmm i dunno where you live, but here in germany it is not allowed
[14:53] <Copafield> a guy in london has done jail time for using somebody elses wireless with
[14:53] <Pocketlap> really?
[14:53] <cYn> oh prostitution is allowed, but not that, huh?
[14:53] <cYn> lma!
[14:53] <cYn> lmao
[14:53] <Copafield> yep - was in the news ~6 weeks back
[14:53] <Pocketlap> in my state in the US, there are no laws
[14:54] <Pocketlap> unless you use their connection malissously (sp?)
[14:54] <Pocketlap> I'm just trying to figure how seccure my network is
[14:55] <Pocketlap> people say WEP is so volunerable
[14:57] <Copafield> i've heard it's readily crackable but i don't worry too much about mine
[14:57] <Pocketlap> ive got WEP and a mac address filter
[14:57] <Pocketlap> as well as an exturnal firewall
[14:58] <Pocketlap> but i know nothing of "hacking". so other than putting up the walls i hon
[14:59] <Pocketlap> in order to cure, one must understand.
[15:01] <Ghostwolf> lies
[15:01] <Ghostwolf> you just start cutting
[15:02] <killahCF2> what is the meaning of i386 or i686?
[15:02] <killahCF2> when downloading a version of linux
[15:02] <LoCal> i386 is 32 bit
[15:02] <Ghostwolf> killahCF2: old processors vs new processors
[15:02] <LoCal> :D
[15:02] <killahCF2> ohh
[15:02] <krisp> so is i686
[15:02] <Ghostwolf> if you have a dual core go i686
[15:02] <killahCF2> how do i find out what kind of processor i have?
[15:02] <krisp> if you have a reasonably new processor you want the i686 version
[15:03] <krisp> pentium 3 or better
[15:03] <killahCF2> oh aright il get the i686 then
[15:03] <Pocketlap> so the HDD ive been using is outta an old Dell, and is about 5 years old
[15:03] <Pocketlap> and its been failing on me
[15:03] <Pocketlap> so i threw in a new WD 320 gig
[15:04] <Pocketlap> ...should I partition that in two partitions, if im using something that
[15:04] <killahCF2> also, any recommendation on a linux distro to download? i am doing a fres
[15:04] <krisp> no real reason to partition it
[15:04] <Pocketlap> killahCF2 you new to the linux?
[15:04] <killahCF2> fairly new
[15:04] <krisp> try ubuntu
[15:04] <Pocketlap> Ubuntu is by far the best noob distro
[15:04] <krisp> it's friendly
[15:04] <killahCF2> ok
[15:04] <killahCF2> thanks
[15:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:06] <rainabba> Need a new motherboard for my desktop. Require ICH9R and Socket 775. Beyon
[15:06] <mingles> whats the black piece on this bumper called? http://carad.ebayimg.com/i24
[15:07] <Ghostwolf> trim?
[15:07] <KaMiKaZa> With which software i can POP3 to hotmail/yahoo?
[15:07] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: Windows Live Mail Desktop
[15:07] <krisp> rainabba i like gigabyte
[15:07] <killahCF2> is there no i686 for ubuntu?
[15:08] <KaMiKaZa> rhelic> whats that
[15:08] <rhelic> gogle it
[15:09] <rhelic> rainabba: if you can, hold out for the new 45nm Core 2 Duo CPUs, but it look
[15:09] <KaMiKaZa> rhelic> It supports yahoo?
[15:09] <rhelic> rainabba: they're: faster, cheaper, run cooler, OC higher and use less watts
[15:10] <rainabba> krisp: Got the GigaByte DQ6 right now :) I do like it.
[15:10] <bizinichi> hey rhelic do you know a bnc that will accept commands to send to the irc
[15:10] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: it supports ANY pop3 and any other format
[15:11] <rhelic> bizinichi: no
[15:11] <KaMiKaZa> rhelic> lol i mean Webmail to pop software.. lol
[15:12] <rhelic> ha ha funny
[15:12] <KaMiKaZa> It supports that?
[15:12] <rhelic> no website I know of does web side pop
[15:12] <KaMiKaZa> so u dont know.
[15:13] <rhelic> nope
[15:13] <Pocketlap> no
[15:13] <Pocketlap> nono
[15:13] <Pocketlap> GOD no!
[15:13] <killahCF2> is there no i686 for ubuntu?
[15:14] <rhelic> ask #ubuntu
[15:14] <rainabba> rhelic: Running a Q6600 for now so as nice as those will be, not worried f
[15:15] <onslaugt> Active Directory isn't replicating properly between 2 wan sites over an IP
[15:16] <onslaugt> Any ideas?
[15:16] <rhelic> heh, I would have never thought I would be calling support for my ISP becaus
[15:17] <rhelic> onslaugt: that's probably too fancy for here, try #mcse or #windows
[15:21] <drakonan> all right, so cisco is the best etc but would a cisco switch provide bette
[15:21] <drakonan> or is the whole cisco switch concept for the "other" non-switch features
[15:22] <drakonan> wow, good quote marley
[15:24] <Pocketz> alll depends homie
[15:24] <onslaugt> rhelic: They're all jerks. You'd be suprised what people here know. Lots o
[15:24] <LoCal> gn8@ll
[15:25] <onslaugt> rhelic: mcse and windows that are jerks that is.... lol... not all of them
[15:26] <predata> I use my vista laptop at work to connect to the office server, I have a sho
[15:29] <falter> can someone explain to me in very simple terms what Serial Attached SCSI is.
[15:29] <falter> i've been reading a lot via google and i'm more confused than ever
[15:30] <predata> wiki?
[15:30] <Y0rgo> I really need the username and password to this one site...huge reward for an
[15:30] * Gmoith is now known as GMouth
[15:30] <Osc> Y0rgo: join it
[15:31] <Y0rgo> too pricey
[15:31] <Y0rgo> think u can help?
[15:32] <Copafield> do something illegal? doubt that
[15:32] <derek1> hello how do i recover a file thats corrupt
[15:32] <Osc> yeah. remember this: lifes ruff
[15:32] <Copafield> and why can you offer a huge reward if you can't pay membership?
[15:32] <derek1> i was typing up a paper in ms word now it wont open
[15:32] <derek1> it says its corrupted
[15:32] <Osc> Copafield: do not use logic!
[15:32] <Osc> derek1: what kind of file?
[15:32] <derek1> msword
[15:33] <Osc> derek1: try opening it in excel
[15:33] <Y0rgo> cuz i got 0sec
[15:33] <Y0rgo> ")
[15:33] <Jurist> hi guys
[15:33] <derek1> okay hold on a second
[15:33] <Jurist> can i ask something?
[15:33] <Osc> Y0rgo please read the topic, thanks
[15:33] <Y0rgo> okay..
[15:33] <Y0rgo> sorry guys
[15:33] <Osc> you too Jurist
[15:33] <derek1> it keeps saying the file has been changed or moved
[15:33] <Y0rgo> just thought someone could help
[15:33] <derek1> what does that mean
[15:34] <Jurist> how do I register my nick?
[15:34] <derek1> you cant on efnet jurist
[15:34] <Osc> Jurist, You should read this web page, "Why EFnet Has No Registration Services"
[15:34] <DigitalUn> you dont register you nname
[15:34] <Jurist> ah
[15:34] <Jurist> okay
[15:34] <Jurist> thanks!
[15:34] <Osc> derek1: are you sure nothing else has the file open?
[15:34] <derek1> yeah basically it was on my flash disk
[15:34] <derek1> and i tried to move it to my hd
[15:34] <derek1> and then my computer froze
[15:34] <derek1> and when i restarted it
[15:34] <derek1> its not on my hd but i guess its on my flashdisk
[15:35] <derek1> but i cant open it up
[15:35] <Osc> off the hdd or the flash?
[15:35] <derek1> flash
[15:35] <derek1> i cant find it in the hd
[15:36] <Osc> google should be able to find you a few free file recovery apps you can aim at
[15:36] <derek1> oh
[15:36] <Osc> in the future, copy, paste, then delete
[15:36] <derek1> any you can recommend?
[15:36] <Osc> not really, I haven't used one in ages
[15:37] <derek1> oh
[15:37] <derek1> http://www.softwarepatch.com/software/filerecovery.html
[15:37] <derek1> does that sound ok?
[15:37] <Osc> if it's free, sure
[15:37] <derek1> okay thanks let me try
[15:38] <et__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azqXygCzO8
[15:40] <trogdork> anyone have any idea what the max is you can charge someone's credit card
[15:41] <derek1> depends
[15:42] <derek1> on what type of account
[15:42] <derek1> if its business i have done almost $20,000
[15:42] <Katasaki> anyone know why a program would be using 85% of my cpu?
[15:42] <derek1> if its a regular account maybe $1000-$5000
[15:42] <derek1> they call and verify
[15:42] <rhelic> Katasaki: well is it doing something, or sitting idle?
[15:42] <Katasaki> idle
[15:42] <rhelic> trogdork: I'm sure there is no max, just red flags
[15:43] <rhelic> Katasaki: then it sucks, kill it
[15:43] <Katasaki> it doesn't normally use that much though
[15:44] <john-john> why do so many sellers hold up a feedback on ebay
[15:44] <john-john> i always pay immediately , that should be an automatic positive feedbacxk
[15:48] <Katasaki> reprasal: does anyone know why a program that usually doesn't kill my cpu
[15:51] <Anthraxus> john-john= b/c they want to see what you'll rate them 1st.
[15:51] <Anthraxus> I agree though... I pay immediately, which should be 100% positive... any
[15:52] <john-john> yeah but its smarmy
[15:52] <john-john> i never do that
[15:52] <john-john> of course i've only sold one thing
[15:53] <john-john> some guy sold me a damaged item then refunded the cost and doesn't want i
[15:54] <Anthraxus> Neg rep
[15:55] <john-john> i contacted him to see his response
[15:56] <john-john> he'll definitely give me a negative even though i held up my end
[16:04] <MrPockets> hey kida
[16:04] <MrPockets> so i did end up partitioning the drive into two partitions
[16:04] <MrPockets> so wahts the best format for the larger storage partition?
[16:05] <Osc> zfs
[16:05] <isif> is there a way you can save the mirc windows setup
[16:05] <Osc> isif: window positions?
[16:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[16:05] <rhelic> isif: right the channel tab > position > save
[16:06] <isif> yeah
[16:06] <isif> window positions and auto open windows at start
[16:06] <isif> auto connect
[16:06] <Osc> make that 'save all' if you want all windows locations saved
[16:06] <isif> where isthat
[16:06] <Osc> the box to the left of any channel name
[16:07] <isif> oh position
[16:07] <isif> thx
[16:21] * alkanutz is now known as alkatraz
[16:25] <john-john> is there some software i can use to make calls through my desktop
[16:26] <MrPockets> Sykpe
[16:26] <Star_Fire> skype
[16:26] <Star_Fire> AOl had an online phone servie... dunno if they still have it tho
[16:26] <MrPockets> i wouldn't put anything AOL 10 feet near my box...
[16:26] <john-john> you have to buy an additional service with skype though right
[16:27] <Star_Fire> john: if you want out-going calls, you'll need to pay
[16:27] <john-john> i really just want a hands free setup on my regular phone
[16:28] <MrPockets> john-john, not reall
[16:28] <MrPockets> y
[16:28] <MrPockets> you get like 10 free minutes
[16:28] <MrPockets> then you can either pay for it, or use a phone card
[16:28] <MrPockets> but its essentialy the same service that uses the online protocol
[16:28] <john-john> do they have headsets you can plug straight into a phone receiver jack
[16:28] <Star_Fire> john: yes
[16:29] <john-john> where
[16:29] <john-john> they aren't common
[16:30] <john-john> and hard to google
[16:30] <Star_Fire> i used to get a printed catalogue of that kind of stuff....
[16:30] <MrPockets> check looksharp for someting like that
[16:30] <MrPockets> souns like something they'd carry
[16:30] <MrPockets> although its probably pricey as hell
[16:32] <mark`> i have an adobe photoshop question, i just got a new digital camera, 7.1mp, a
[16:34] <Star_Fire> mark: change the ruler to pixels
[16:36] <mark`> ummm, you can't
[16:36] <mark`> ist's only CTRL+R to put on/take off
[16:37] <john-john> where's a good place to chat about video editing
[16:37] <Star_Fire> mark: right click the ruler and chose pixels
[16:37] <blanto> when disconnecting a battery, which terminal do you disconnect first? and w
[16:37] <blanto> a car battery
[16:38] <MrPockets> ground
[16:38] <MrPockets> ground then positive when disconnecting
[16:38] <MrPockets> and vice versa when connecting
[16:38] <blanto> what happens if you don't do ground first?
[16:38] <blanto> so when reconnecting, positive first, then ground?
[16:38] <MrPockets> your shit'll SPLODE!
[16:39] <Star_Fire> acid in your face isn't a pretty sight
[16:39] <Osc> you might get a spark, which might ignight the gas that the battery releases
[16:39] <MrPockets> thats bull shit
[16:39] <MrPockets> it'll spark when you reconnect ground also..
[16:39] <MrPockets> but its no biggie.
[16:40] <Star_Fire> you might touch something grounded when you're disconnecting the positive
[16:40] <Osc> and your reason?
[16:40] <MrPockets> ?
[16:41] <mark`> sup 0sec
[16:41] <Star_Fire> practically the whole car is ground and your tools are metal
[16:41] <Perfect> how do i use norton ghost 12 to restore backups
[16:41] <MrPockets> no
[16:41] <MrPockets> anything metal, and connected to the chassis is grounded
[16:41] <MrPockets> but you wont transfer current uniless its unpainted
[16:41] <MrPockets> and its a fucking 12v batter homes, its not like its going to kill you..
[16:41] * PolRaun08 is now known as diggme
[16:41] <blanto> voltage doesn't kill
[16:41] <blanto> amps do
[16:42] <Perfect> how do i use norton ghost 12 to restore backups
[16:42] <MrPockets> download the fucking program and find out
[16:42] <Star_Fire> perfect: you can boot the norton CD or us the norton app installed from
[16:42] <MrPockets> rtfm homie.
[16:43] <Star_Fire> watch your language MrMPockets
[16:43] <MrPockets> my bad.
[16:53] <Perfect> ephedra is good stuff, makes me mentally alert
[16:53] <Perfect> best thing out there if you need to study for an exam
[16:54] <diggme> adderal is good for focus too
[16:54] <diggme> well, for me it is
[16:55] <Perfect> adderal not as strong as ephedra
[16:55] <diggme> not everyone needs to be a crackhead
[16:55] <Perfect> adderal is like a slow release of amphetamine
[16:55] <RDMutt> what's everyone using these days to get their podcasts that's not itunes? fo
[16:55] <diggme> not unless you snort it
[16:55] <diggme> heheheh...
[16:55] <Perfect> omfg itunes is the biggest POS out there
[16:56] <Perfect> i keep haivng problem downloding podcasts in itunes
[16:56] <Perfect> i really prefer they just list the urls of podcasts
[16:56] <RDMutt> hence, I do not want itunes for podcasts. I currently use media monkey for m
[16:56] <Perfect> so i just download
[16:56] <Perfect> i need the best podcast downloader
[16:56] <RDMutt> but right now I'm just concerned with a podcast downloader....
[16:56] <Perfect> me too
[16:59] * IamKing likes the new Winamp 5.5
[17:00] <Perfect> how do i make winmap automatically open a mms: link when i click on it
[17:02] * cyberfr-g is now known as cyberfr0g
[17:02] <RDMutt> http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/faq/index.php
[17:02] <RDMutt> just found that perfect
[17:03] <RDMutt> might work for podcasts
[17:05] <Perfect> is juice good
[17:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[17:06] <RDMutt> idk
[17:06] <RDMutt> never used it
[17:06] <RDMutt> same boat you are
[17:09] <MrPockets> whats a decent AIM client?
[17:10] <RDMutt> MrPockets: I'd suggest pidgin. www.pidgin.im
[17:10] <RDMutt> does AIM + just about anything else
[17:10] <MrPockets> uve used pidgin
[17:10] <MrPockets> its too
[17:10] <MrPockets> big..
[17:10] <RDMutt> Perfect: don't bother with juice, hasn't been updated in ages. 2005ish
[17:10] <RDMutt> MrPockets: miranda IM
[17:10] <RDMutt> that's as small as you can get short of coding your own I'd say
[17:11] <MrPockets> lol
[17:11] <MrPockets> ill look into it. thanks
[17:11] <RDMutt> no problem
[17:19] <Perfect> i just want a simple podcast downloader that stays in the background and do
[17:19] <Perfect> is that too much to ask
[17:19] <Perfect> i am sick of going to download east podcast separately and i hate itunes
[17:21] <RDMutt> I know... anyone out there with a suggestion
[17:22] * IamKing loves the Global Keys in Winamp 5.5
[17:22] <RDMutt> http://www.dopplerradio.net/
[17:22] <RDMutt> aha, I used to use that
[17:22] <RDMutt> it seems to be a living project
[17:29] <dealt> yo, how do i reformat my hard drive so i can install win xp all over again?
[17:30] <Pope__> I have to get a new power supply
[17:30] <Pope__> how do I know how much wats it has to be?
[17:30] <Ghostwolf> dealt: just stick the windows xp disc in
[17:30] <Ghostwolf> it'll ask during setup
[17:31] <dealt> greaaaaaaaaaat, thanks
[17:31] <Ghostwolf> please note formating deletes everything
[17:31] <dealt> yeah
[17:31] <dealt> i want to start fresh
[17:31] <Ghostwolf> Pope__: I'd go with no less then a 450 for a modern computer
[17:32] <Ghostwolf> with sata & pcie support
[17:32] <Ghostwolf> best thing to do is take the old one in when you buy
[17:32] <Ghostwolf> the sales person wil help you match it up & point out some differences
[17:43] <Perfect> dman i dropped my HD and now it's not bootable
[17:43] <Perfect> this sucks
[17:43] <Perfect> is there anyway to recover it
[17:44] <Ghostwolf> Perfect: don't use it take it to a tech
[17:44] <Ghostwolf> you're probably out of luck depending how hard it hit
[17:46] <Perfect> dropped from a table
[17:46] <Perfect> about 3 ft tall
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> hmmm... never dropped one myself
[17:48] <Ghostwolf> might have harmed the boot section
[17:49] <Ghostwolf> either way you want the data let a tech handle it
[17:49] <Perfect> this is the 2nd drive i used in 4 years
[17:49] <Perfect> sucks
[17:49] <Perfect> bought it 2 years ago
[17:50] <Solipsis> how come i can't right click on a nick in the main window anymore in the M
[17:50] <Perfect> does it have warranty
[17:50] <Ghostwolf> Perfect: brand & model?
[17:51] <Perfect> seagate i think
[17:51] <Ghostwolf> seagates have 3 year warranties
[17:51] <Perfect> what kind of phone number is 000
[17:51] <Perfect> 1-000
[17:52] <Ghostwolf> ummm
[17:52] <Ghostwolf> invalid I would think
[17:52] <Perfect> heh 1-000 is skype
[18:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[18:06] <Medikit> how much is too much to spend on an engagement ring :p
[18:06] <drakonan> so what happens if i hook an 8 ohm speaker two a 4 ohm stable amp, would i
[18:06] <RDMutt> erm
[18:06] <drakonan> my amp has the protect light on and i can't figure out why
[18:06] <RDMutt> impedance difference
[18:06] <drakonan> to i meant, not two
[18:07] <drakonan> it would just output only half the power right, would break anything would
[18:07] <RDMutt> no
[18:07] <RDMutt> that's wattage you're thinking of
[18:07] <RDMutt> impedence is resistance, your amp can't put out that much power
[18:07] <drakonan> i didn't think that these speakers (dual voice coil) would be hooked to be
[18:08] <drakonan> and i hooked it to my 2 ohm stable ampl thinking it was 2 ohms, but it was
[18:08] <RDMutt> it shouldn't break anything. I'd be worried if you had an 8 ohm amp and 2 oh
[18:09] <drakonan> that's what i thought, i've got it hooked to my computer for testing and i
[18:09] <Sebboh> ... How does that not overheat the amp? I've never understood impedance.
[18:09] <drakonan> phono to rca's, 4 ohms to each 2 ohm stable channel
[18:09] <drakonan> less power is going to them sebboh
[18:09] <drakonan> less ohms means more power
[18:09] <drakonan> e/r=i
[18:10] <drakonan> v over ohms equals current
[18:10] <drakonan> volts
[18:10] <Sebboh> Devices pull power.. It isn't pushed to them. that's how you blow a fuse b
[18:10] <drakonan> but every time i hook the rca up the light goes red on the amp
[18:11] <drakonan> fuses are good
[18:11] <RDMutt> sebboh; I don't understand impedance either. I'm a sophomore in highschool,
[18:11] <RDMutt> I know the gist... that's about it
[18:12] <Sebboh> Fuses.. are.. Good. Hm. omg, I just remembered, I put a 65 amp fuse in a 5
[18:21] <blue^moon> in xp where do i set it so that it doesnt' reboot on blue screen
[18:22] <blue^moon> I need time to see it
[18:22] <blue^moon> found it
[18:22] <deww> right click on my computer, properties, advanced,
[18:22] <deww> startup and fine you found it
[18:24] <blue^moon> cuz when it reboots after that its hanging and I have to restart it
[18:24] <blue^moon> sometimes I really don't enjoy my computers
[18:24] <blue^moon> ty and good evening
[18:25] <deww> :-)
[18:30] <Perfect> where can i get a copy of the core media player for palm
[18:31] <predata> how much of a difference will one notice after slotting in a Bluegears B-En
[18:32] <RDMutt> how new is your mobo with onboard sound, and what do you listen to
[18:33] <predata> use for mp3's, making tunes in Reason, gaming, movies... original onboard i
[18:33] <predata> gigabyte p965-s3
[18:34] <RDMutt> hmmm
[18:34] <RDMutt> you might notice a bit of a difference
[18:34] <RDMutt> but onboard sound is pretty good these days
[18:34] <Lindy_> deww you around ?
[18:35] <Andre66_> can someone please tell me when mail.akprofessionalconsulting.com will exp
[18:35] <Andre66_> I changed IPs and I havent seen it propogate and I dont know when it will
[18:36] <predata> i'm running it to Logitech Z-5500 5.1 speakers through SPDIF
[18:36] <predata> just hoping it's worth the AU$180 i just spent on it heh.
[18:37] <RDMutt> oh if you have 5.1 it should be worth it
[18:37] <krisp> should be fine, but you should also know that spdif doesnt have enough bandwi
[18:37] <krisp> so from the pc you're better off using the 3 analog channels
[18:37] <krisp> unless you are playing dvds
[18:39] <predata> the new soundcard uses the spdif for DTS Live encoding... I figure this mea
[18:40] <krisp> dont know, but it might
[18:40] <krisp> for that price probably :)
[18:41] <krisp> i'd say connect the digital and the analog and see for yourself
[18:49] <dealt> does anyone know if there's a difference when reinstalling windows xp, the di
[18:50] <Ifrit> when burning, my DVD±RW's buffer level fluctuates wildly
[18:50] <Ifrit> does that have anything to say for the disk being burned? what might cause it
[18:51] <Ifrit> i'm certain DMA is enabled for the drive
[18:51] <Ifrit> i'm using Nero to burn
[18:52] <dealt> ehh, the answer to my question is the difference when checking for bad sector
[18:54] <deww> chkdks
[18:54] <deww> er
[18:54] <deww> chkdsk
[18:58] <dealt> how do you get the command prompt on windows vista?
[18:58] <deww> windows key + r, cmd
[18:59] <Copafield> took me years beforfe i knew about cmd being short for command :/
[19:00] <deww> i know it existed, didnt know the difference for a while between cmd and comma
[19:00] <Ghostwolf> cmd is like the shell thingy while command is the actual kernel interface
[19:01] <deww> naw. cmd is 32bit. command isn't
[19:04] <mingles> hey why is he banned
[19:04] <Avi-Vahl> hey guys
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> anybody knows something about dns?
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> I got this problem... :/
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> when I do /dns 127.0.0.1
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> it gives me
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> [05:05] * Dns resolving 127.0.0.1
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> -
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> [05:05] * Dns resolved 127.0.0.1 to Avi-PC
[19:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[19:05] <Avi-Vahl> which is correct
[19:05] <dealt> when i run chkdsk in the windowsvista command prompt, it says access denied a
[19:06] <dealt> what does that mean?
[19:06] <Avi-Vahl> when I do /dns localhost
[19:06] <Avi-Vahl> it says
[19:06] <Avi-Vahl> [05:06] * Dns resolving ppp-58-8-83-213.revip2.asianet.co.th
[19:06] <Avi-Vahl> -
[19:06] <Avi-Vahl> [05:06] * Dns resolved ppp-58-8-83-213.revip2.asianet.co.th to 58.8.83.213
[19:06] <Avi-Vahl> wtf?
[19:07] <deww> Avi-Vahl: they're all correct
[19:07] <Avi-Vahl> dealt, right click "Command Prompt" in the start menu->accessories and
[19:07] <Avi-Vahl> @deww ?
[19:07] <Avi-Vahl> wtf is ppp-58-8-83-213.revip2.asianet.co.th?
[19:07] <Avi-Vahl> :/
[19:07] <deww> Avi-Vahl: 127.0.0.1 is yur loopback ip address.
[19:07] <Avi-Vahl> well, so is localhost, isn't it?
[19:07] <deww> avi-pc is your windows computer name
[19:08] <Avi-Vahl> yeah
[19:08] <Avi-Vahl> it is
[19:08] <Avi-Vahl> I know
[19:08] <Avi-Vahl> it's correct for 127.0.0.1
[19:08] <deww> and the other hostname has something to do with your isps nameserver
[19:08] <deww> that is wrong tho
[19:08] <Avi-Vahl> :/
[19:08] <Avi-Vahl> well
[19:08] <deww> oh
[19:08] <deww> oH
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> it's messed up, isn't it?
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> localhost
[19:09] <deww> when you do /dns localhost
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> should be 127.0.0.1
[19:09] <deww> [ Whois localhost (~just@ppp-58-8-83-213.revip2.asianet.co.th) ]
[19:09] <deww> :D
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> yeah
[19:09] <deww> ok we're all sane
[19:09] <deww> you're trying to /dns on that nickname
[19:09] <deww> which has that hostname
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> oh
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> lol
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> alright
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> so
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> when i go to command prompt
[19:09] <Avi-Vahl> and do:
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> nslookup localhost
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> C:\Users\Avi>nslookup localhost
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> Server: SL2141.home
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> Address: 10.0.0.138:53
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> *** No address (A) records available for localhost
[19:10] <deww> that doesn't go through irc, so it will be looking ayour pc
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> 10.0.0.138:53
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> == my router
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> why doesn't it show my own computer?
[19:10] <Avi-Vahl> *** No address (A) records available for localhost?
[19:11] <Avi-Vahl> should it show 127.0.0.1? :/
[19:11] <predata> anyone know much about Indesign CS3?
[19:11] <deww> Avi-Vahl: check your hosts file, it is buried in.. windiws\system32\drivers or
[19:11] <Avi-Vahl> %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[19:11] <Avi-Vahl> here
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> # For example:
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> #
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> that's all
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> has some comments above
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> looks right
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> :/
[19:12] <Avi-Vahl> should resolve to 127.0.0.1
[19:12] <deww> it should
[19:13] <perverted> does anyone know what part of the world produces the largest squids ?
[19:13] <deww> do you see a lline that says: Name: localhost, then Addres: 127.0.0.1
[19:13] <Avi-Vahl> nah
[19:13] <Avi-Vahl> only 127.0.0.1 localhost
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> that's the way it should be
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> look at the examples above
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> i did
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> C:\Users\Avi>ipconfig /displaydns
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> localhost
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> ----------------------------------------
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> Record Name . . . . . : localhost
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> Record Type . . . . . : 1
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> Time To Live . . . . : 86400
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> Data Length . . . . . : 4
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> Section . . . . . . . : Answer
[19:14] <Avi-Vahl> A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1
[19:14] <deww> actually you should paste somewhere like pastebin.ca next time :P
[19:15] <Avi-Vahl> sorry, deww, I will :-)
[19:16] <Avi-Vahl> http://pastebin.ca/856865
[19:16] <Avi-Vahl> look at this
[19:16] * intx_ is now known as intx
[19:17] <deww> your nameserver, 10.0.0.38, doesn't have a record for "localhost"
[19:17] <Avi-Vahl> why does it go to my router to check for localhost?
[19:17] <Avi-Vahl> Should it?
[19:18] <Avi-Vahl> it should automatically resolve to 127.0.0.1, according to the hosts file,
[19:18] <Avi-Vahl> :/
[19:18] <deww> it should because thats what your nameserver is set to
[19:18] <deww> nameservers first
[19:18] <deww> :P
[19:18] <Avi-Vahl> I thought hosts file is first
[19:18] <Avi-Vahl> :/
[19:20] <deww> maybe back i nthe old days before dns servers :)
[19:20] <Avi-Vahl> using hosts file should eliminate the call to the dns server :/
[19:21] <Ghostwolf> it is
[19:21] <Avi-Vahl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file
[19:21] <Avi-Vahl> The hosts file has alternative uses, including filtering ads by having ent
[19:21] <Avi-Vahl> see?
[19:22] <Avi-Vahl> eliminating a request to the DNS server
[19:22] <Avi-Vahl> so it should eliminate
[19:22] <Avi-Vahl> why doesn't it automatically resolve to 127.0.0.1 :-(
[19:23] <Ghostwolf> I haven't been reading... what's the problem?
[19:24] <Avi-Vahl> [05:16] <Avi-Vahl> http://pastebin.ca/856865
[19:24] <Avi-Vahl> when I do nslookup for localhost
[19:24] <Avi-Vahl> it won't resolve to 127.0.0.1
[19:24] <Avi-Vahl> :
[19:24] <Avi-Vahl> :/
[19:24] <Ghostwolf> nslookup?
[19:25] <Ghostwolf> it's workin right Avi-Vahl
[19:26] <Ghostwolf> localhost is always the local computer
[19:26] <Ghostwolf> so nslookup is just asking the remote server what local host is
[19:26] <Avi-Vahl> oh
[19:26] <Avi-Vahl> alright
[19:26] <Ghostwolf> & tells you your computer which it knows as your external ip
[19:26] <Avi-Vahl> I see
[19:27] <Avi-Vahl> should it resolve to 127.0.0.1?
[19:27] <Avi-Vahl> shouldn't?
[19:27] <Avi-Vahl> **
[19:27] <Ghostwolf> no
[19:27] <Ghostwolf> because it's asking a remote server what it is
[19:27] <Avi-Vahl> I see...
[19:27] <Ghostwolf> the remote server looks it up & sees it as your computer
[19:28] <Ghostwolf> it answers with the only ip it knows for your computer
[19:28] <Ghostwolf> which is the external one
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> C:\Users\Avi>nslookup 127.0.0.1
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> Server: SL2141.home
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> Address: 10.0.0.138:53
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> Name: localhost
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> Address: 127.0.0.1
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> when I lookup 127.0.0.1
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> is says
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> that
[19:28] <Ghostwolf> bit different there
[19:28] <Avi-Vahl> 10.0.0.138 == my router
[19:29] <Ghostwolf> little odd there but no big deal
[19:29] <Ghostwolf> is it causing a problem?
[19:29] <Avi-Vahl> well
[19:29] <Avi-Vahl> I had this problem w/ a program
[19:29] <Avi-Vahl> which I set up a local proxy
[19:29] <Avi-Vahl> just to test
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> and when I did localhost
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> it didn't connect to the proxy
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> and when I did 127.0.0.1
[19:30] <Ghostwolf> did you set the port as well?
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> it did :/
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> sure i set the port
[19:30] <Ghostwolf> & some programs may not use hostnames
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> wow
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> I'll check
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> cuz
[19:30] <jennifer_> How complex are the programs used for javascript obfuscation and compress
[19:30] <Avi-Vahl> I just tested a localftp server
[19:31] <Avi-Vahl> and connecting via IE7 ftp://username:pass@localhost/ works
[19:31] <Ghostwolf> some programs
[19:31] <Avi-Vahl> so
[19:31] <Avi-Vahl> I guess it's that program
[19:32] <deww> anyone here have first hand experience with lasik surgery?
[19:32] <Ghostwolf> I'd say your system is fine
[19:32] * jennifer_ is now known as khafra
[19:32] <Avi-Vahl> That's Ghost and deww
[19:32] <Avi-Vahl> Thanks***
[19:33] <Ghostwolf> which program btw?
[19:33] <Avi-Vahl> you've been really helpful. Thank you!
[19:33] <Avi-Vahl> uTorrent, I want to code my own tracker
[19:33] <Avi-Vahl> so I'm capturing some of the protocol via proxy
[19:33] <Avi-Vahl> :-)
[19:33] <Avi-Vahl> I think it's a problem w/ the latest version only
[19:34] <Avi-Vahl> beta version
[19:34] <deww> cool
[19:35] <Avi-Vahl> alright
[19:35] <Avi-Vahl> thanks! :)
[19:35] <Avi-Vahl> ttyl
[19:37] <Ghostwolf> ah
[19:38] <Ghostwolf> utorrent does have hostname support but loopback is a known error as of e
[19:39] <TheUni> anyone recommend a good linux firewall/router, preferably with web gui? look
[19:39] <althetv> How do i make a stastics that if there were 10 people and 6 people voted fo
[19:41] <benxx> read the topic, that might help you figure it out
[19:41] <benxx> after Medical, but before Drama
[19:41] <althetv> it's not homework
[19:45] <benxx> anyone here know smalltalk?
[19:48] <deww> TheUni: i hear good things of smoothwall
[19:48] <TheUni> deww: smoothwall seems to be its own OS
[19:48] <deww> yeah
[19:49] <TheUni> i've already got a debian server running... want to add routing to it
[19:50] <n909> anyone know if it's possible for some kind of damaged cd to permanently disabl
[19:50] <deww> yeah!
[19:51] <Ghostwolf> unlikely n909
[19:51] <TheUni> a sony cd :P
[19:51] <n909> then i dunno how i have four cdroms that all died at the same time.
[19:51] <Ghostwolf> it's like asking if a broken record can break a record player
[19:51] <Ghostwolf> only a little less likely
[19:52] <Ghostwolf> cause there's less physical contact
[19:53] <deww> TheUni: shorewall is the other one i can think of. for a simple one. i use qta
[19:54] <TheUni> yea, configuring shorewall now
[19:54] <deww> or was it quicktables...
[19:54] <TheUni> trying to ease my way into iptables
[19:54] <deww> shorewall confused the heck out of me ^_^
[19:54] <TheUni> heh
[19:54] <TheUni> i'd like to do what i was hoping for at the start... run smoothwall or m0n0w
[19:54] <deww> http://qtables.radom.org/
[19:54] <TheUni> but just don't think it's possible
[19:55] <deww> throw a mini pc in front of it!!
[19:56] <TheUni> nah, the point is for the server to do EVERYTHING. then just have dummy mach
[19:56] <TheUni> just a fun project
[19:58] <Ghostwolf> anyone here play zoo tycoon?
[20:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> are there any bigger lcd screens for pc then 30 in ?
[20:02] <Ghostwolf> DJ_HaMsTa: most modern lcd screens have dvi & some computers have hdmi
[20:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> Ghostwolf: what does that have to do with my question ?
[20:03] <Ghostwolf> nothing I guess
[20:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> thanks!
[20:03] <Ghostwolf> *cough*idiot*cough*
[20:03] <|Jason8|> Hey guys.
[20:04] <DJ_HaMsTa> *cough*cant read*cough*
[20:04] <|Jason8|> I've been using Firefox on my computer for a long while now, and just rece
[20:04] <|Jason8|> IE still works, but Firefox returns a "Server not found" error.
[20:05] <|Jason8|> I'm guessing it's a firewall problem, but I don't have access to that.
[20:05] <DJ_HaMsTa> reinstall it ?
[20:05] <|Jason8|> Tried that.
[20:05] <benxx> DJ, I would imagine you could get any size LCD for your computer. Even if it
[20:05] <Ghostwolf> |Jason8|: proxy
[20:05] <|Jason8|> I've also tried the user agent switcher, which doesn't help.
[20:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[20:05] <benxx> I know I can hook up my 50" to my laptop
[20:05] <DJ_HaMsTa> benxx: unfortunately most television screens do not offer the high resolu
[20:05] <|Jason8|> Ghostwolf, Firefox cannot connect to any internet sources.
[20:06] <Ghostwolf> |Jason8|: I'm saying it's probably the proxy
[20:06] <benxx> 1080p resolution on any newer LCD TV
[20:06] <DJ_HaMsTa> |Jason8|: tools, properties advanced, settings
[20:06] <|Jason8|> YEah.
[20:06] <|Jason8|> Okay.
[20:06] <|Jason8|> It's all set correctly.
[20:06] <DJ_HaMsTa> REINSTALL IT!
[20:06] <Ghostwolf> sigh
[20:06] <|Jason8|> I REINSTALLED IT!
[20:07] <DJ_HaMsTa> humm
[20:07] <Ghostwolf> game time... getting dense in here
[20:07] <|Jason8|> I was curious if there was a way to "spoof" firefox's requests as IE
[20:07] <DJ_HaMsTa> cant be firewall
[20:07] <DJ_HaMsTa> use the same port as ie
[20:07] <drewbuntu> |Jason8|: there is a plugin to do that
[20:07] <|Jason8|> drewbuntu, if it's the user agent switcher, I've tried it.
[20:08] <drewbuntu> you can also use something like admuncher that can rewrite your browser n
[20:08] <deww> http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/24/changinguseragent.html an other way
[20:09] <DJ_HaMsTa> benxx: 1080p resolution = 1920x1080 pixels dell 30in lcd: 2560 x 1600
[20:21] <dealtj> could someone help me look for a driver, all in wonder 9600 series
[20:22] <dealtj> i look at the ati website
[20:22] <dealtj> but it says amd
[20:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> amd bought ati
[20:22] <dealtj> oh
[20:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> u can get the driver for ur card there
[20:22] <dealtj> they mustve moved it around cuz i cant find the driver on that site
[20:23] <dealtj> u think u could browse for me?
[20:23] <drewbuntu> dealt, just goto windows update
[20:23] <drewbuntu> it wil find the driver for you
[20:23] <VitaminB> hey
[20:24] <DJ_HaMsTa> i will sir, but first, may i will make you a cup of tea and serve it fres
[20:24] <VitaminB> is deww here
[20:24] <VitaminB> hey can anyone help me?
[20:24] <VitaminB> im trying to make a USB? boot disk
[20:24] <dealtj> for like counterstrike or day of defeat, i think they want u to download it
[20:24] <mikeLAWre> anyone know where a list of viruses checksum are?
[20:24] <mikeLAWre> md5 or whatever else?
[20:25] <drewbuntu> mikeLAWre: virus arent detected with checksums
[20:25] <drewbuntu> they are checked with heuristics and signatures
[20:25] <mikeLAWre> hashes
[20:25] <mikeLAWre> md5 etc.. hashes
[20:25] * E_T` is now known as et__
[20:25] <drewbuntu> anyways, norton used to publish the list off all signatures
[20:26] <drewbuntu> not sure if they still do
[20:26] <drewbuntu> i would try google
[20:26] <dealtj> oh wait, i think when i try running the game, it'll direct me where exactly
[20:26] <VitaminB> well boys and gals, my internet company put me back on dial up modem conne
[20:26] <VitaminB> is it me or are we goingbackward with DSL ..this is with AT&T
[20:26] <mikeLAWre> yeah I am googling, thanks for the info
[20:28] <VitaminB> the only thing dialup is good for..is chat
[20:28] <VitaminB> hell its 5 minutes to load yahoo mail
[20:29] <mikeLAWre> think i may follow norton's anti-bot approach
[20:30] <drewbuntu> what are you trying to do?
[20:30] <mikeLAWre> it detects various things like the program doesn't have a window, is usin
[20:30] <mikeLAWre> just start a free open source detection tool
[20:31] <drewbuntu> heh
[20:31] <drewbuntu> detection is so 1999
[20:31] <drewbuntu> prevention is key
[20:31] <VitaminB> pe encrypted? whats that?
[20:31] <mikeLAWre> exe's,dll,ocx,scr,sys etc.. are all Pe files(portable executables)
[20:31] <VitaminB> drewbuntu what do you do
[20:32] <mikeLAWre> and how can you prevent if you can't detect?
[20:32] <VitaminB> mike: so what do we need to know about these?
[20:32] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: i do many things
[20:32] <mikeLAWre> can't fight what you don't see
[20:32] <VitaminB> so wahts the point here?
[20:32] <drewbuntu> mikeLAWre: all detection does it look for known factors, it is well publi
[20:33] <VitaminB> so whats the big picture?
[20:33] <mikeLAWre> how else can you expect to stop something drew?
[20:33] <drewbuntu> lock down a system better
[20:33] <drewbuntu> get the OS makers to change their ways
[20:34] <Anthraxus> Well they also look for suspicious activity: like programs and dll's that
[20:34] <Anthraxus> Also, progs that try and replace crucial system files
[20:34] <mikeLAWre> well we've seen what happens when you add security(e.g vista) it effects
[20:34] <Anthraxus> And or try and change startup configs
[20:34] <Gravitas> anyone have an opinion on which us bank provides the best online checking
[20:35] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: are you asking what do i do to protect myself from virus?
[20:35] <Anthraxus> If you have a nice process guard, it will stop ANY program or DLL from in
[20:35] <mikeLAWre> Gravitas bb&t has always been a great bank
[20:35] <Gravitas> mike, site?
[20:35] <mikeLAWre> i've had issuse with bank of america and so have many people I know
[20:35] <mikeLAWre> www.bbt.com
[20:35] <Anthraxus> www.diamondcs.au
[20:35] <VitaminB> yes drewbuntu
[20:35] <Gravitas> thank you
[20:35] <Anthraxus> Process Guard = I HIGHLY recommend this. I've never had a problem since r
[20:36] <drewbuntu> well, at home I dont run as local admin, but as user, plus i use linux on
[20:36] <mikeLAWre> anthraxus as a programmer
[20:36] <VitaminB> is it free?
[20:36] <mikeLAWre> i've easily bypassed process guard
[20:36] <mikeLAWre> using simple kernel unhooking
[20:36] <VitaminB> drew hmm ok
[20:36] <drewbuntu> plus i also restrict websites for the kids so they can only goto sites i
[20:36] <VitaminB> so what if I am running as local admin?
[20:36] <VitaminB> what else can I do
[20:36] <Anthraxus> mikeLAWre= oh how so? You don't think they authors aren't programmers the
[20:37] <drewbuntu> i use a 3 way combo when running as admin, admuncher > windows defende
[20:37] <mikeLAWre> anthraxus that's why i'm letting him know
[20:37] <drewbuntu> plus i never click on random links
[20:37] <mikeLAWre> process guard isn't as secure as he may think
[20:37] <drewbuntu> if i need to, i use a linux VMWARE image inside windows
[20:37] <mikeLAWre> the game WOW bypasses PG aswell
[20:37] <VitaminB> what about masking your
[20:37] <VitaminB> IP add or MAC?
[20:37] <drewbuntu> masking?
[20:37] <VitaminB> wasnt that used before? is it still somewhat effecive?
[20:38] <drewbuntu> masking does nothing but give you anonimity
[20:38] <VitaminB> you knwo, can't you change you MAC to the public
[20:38] <VitaminB> kind of like a NAT for MAC address
[20:38] <drewbuntu> nah
[20:38] <mikeLAWre> thought it was hardcoded
[20:38] <VitaminB> how about going through multiple routers?
[20:38] <drewbuntu> BEST way to protect users in a network is a web proxy with all sorts of r
[20:38] <VitaminB> yeah it is hardcoded but in my routers config, there is something about MA
[20:38] <VitaminB> or something where youc an change you MAC address
[20:39] <VitaminB> i dont recall the exact word
[20:39] <drewbuntu> MAC addresses are only passed to the next hop
[20:39] <Anthraxus> mikeLAWre= that's why I've run DeepFreeze... lol anything you can code...
[20:39] <VitaminB> so the next hop=ISP?
[20:39] <drewbuntu> then it changes with each hop, MAC addresses are used to detirmin the nex
[20:39] <VitaminB> or my own router?
[20:39] <Anthraxus> MAC Spoofing
[20:39] <VitaminB> yeah MAC spoofing
[20:39] <drewbuntu> noce=node
[20:39] <VitaminB> is that still used?
[20:39] <Anthraxus> course
[20:39] <VitaminB> can I use it?
[20:39] <VitaminB> how do I use it?
[20:40] <drewbuntu> lol
[20:40] <mikeLAWre> drew is right and that's typically the scenario, make everyone connect th
[20:40] <mikeLAWre> restores on reboot
[20:40] <mikeLAWre> deep freeze
[20:40] <mikeLAWre> thats it
[20:40] <Anthraxus> Deepfreeze + MAC/ARP tables
[20:40] <Anthraxus> Mega security
[20:40] <VitaminB> MAC spoofing?
[20:40] <VitaminB> can I use that?
[20:40] <Anthraxus> Yes MAC spoofing is simple
[20:40] <VitaminB> or is that something that the bad guy do?
[20:41] <VitaminB> how do i use Mac spoofing
[20:41] <Anthraxus> Many hack/security testing tools will do it automatically
[20:41] <drewbuntu> mac spoofing is for hacking, it will do nothing for your internet usage
[20:41] <mikeLAWre> vitamin if you're worried about anonmity, you should check out tor
[20:41] <mikeLAWre> and read up on how it works
[20:41] <VitaminB> check what
[20:41] <VitaminB> hey what about this proxy thing
[20:41] <VitaminB> how do I set that up?
[20:41] <mikeLAWre> tor is still vulnerable to exposing your ip through flash/java but janusv
[20:42] <Anthraxus> There's software MAC spoofers also.
[20:42] <mikeLAWre> tor is a proxy system with encryption
[20:42] <Anthraxus> but they are sketchy
[20:42] <Anthraxus> Ah TOR project
[20:42] <mikeLAWre> yeah
[20:42] <VitaminB> never heardof it
[20:42] <Anthraxus> I read about that sounds interesting
[20:42] <Anthraxus> I'm going to use it
[20:42] <VitaminB> use what?
[20:43] <Anthraxus> TOR
[20:43] <VitaminB> how does TOR work
[20:43] <Anthraxus> http://www.torproject.org/
[20:43] <VitaminB> how doe sit work in general
[20:43] <et__> tor is a joke
[20:43] <mikeLAWre> yeah too hard to explain but for anonmity is the best anonymity system i'
[20:43] <VitaminB> i dont want to read about a joke; damn
[20:43] <Michael_W> I need to totaly anihlate this channel called #bonghit
[20:44] <mikeLAWre> et tor isn't a joke was developed by dod
[20:44] <VitaminB> annihilate
[20:44] <et__> okay
[20:44] <et__> well
[20:44] <et__> its banned on efnet
[20:44] <Michael_W> it's like a satanic cult
[20:44] <mikeLAWre> yeah due to abuse
[20:44] <VitaminB> so is there an easier to use Proxy setup?
[20:45] <Ghostwolf> anyone here play zoo tycoon?
[20:45] <mikeLAWre> vitaminb tor is very easy to use
[20:45] <et__> try ipv6
[20:45] <Anthraxus> It's basically randomized encrypted hops
[20:45] <VitaminB> how do you set up TOR?
[20:45] <mikeLAWre> download the vidalia bundle, and tor button for firefox, install
[20:45] <Anthraxus> so that each time data is sent, there's no real mappable path, until the
[20:46] <mikeLAWre> then click the button to connect your browser through tor anytime you wan
[20:46] <mikeLAWre> to filter out garbage as tor is just a socks proxy with encryption+onion
[20:46] <VitaminB> whats a socks proxy
[20:47] <mikeLAWre> http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-win32.html.en
[20:47] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: if you are looking to protect yourself from malicious websites
[20:47] <drewbuntu> way wrong path
[20:47] <VitaminB> then what?
[20:47] <Anthraxus> Heh... more like DON'T visit questionable sites... aka hack sites that wi
[20:48] <mikeLAWre> tor even has "hidden services" so a website like http://kse9sf9se9s.onion
[20:48] <VitaminB> so tor is an http proxy?
[20:48] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: the real answer for someone lazy, install linux or get a mac
[20:48] <mikeLAWre> no
[20:48] <drewbuntu> for windows, there is no ONE or EASY answer
[20:49] <VitaminB> so any websites I want to go through goes through TOR website?
[20:49] <mikeLAWre> tor is onion router but at client side views a simple socks4/5 proxy
[20:49] <drewbuntu> boot from an ubuntu live CD and check it out
[20:49] <mikeLAWre> privoxy lets you use tor like a http proxy
[20:49] <predata> what are 'transfer curves' in an acrobat .pdf document, and in what case wo
[20:50] <Anthraxus> You shouldn't be worried so much about hacker, as for corp advertising. T
[20:51] <ActiveOpt> anyone wouldnt happen to know whats a good banner app/site maker or w.e
[20:51] <ActiveOpt> its for a site
[20:51] <VitaminB> hells no
[20:51] <VitaminB> oops sorry
[20:51] <mikeLAWre> yeah and using internet explorer is a perfect way to let them install spy
[20:51] <ActiveOpt> lol..
[20:52] <mikeLAWre> it's quite sad really almost all the computers i've looked at, i ask them
[20:52] <drewbuntu> mikeLAWre: firefox IS NOT safer
[20:52] <mikeLAWre> not just alittle bit, but ALOT
[20:52] <drewbuntu> its still running windows
[20:52] <mikeLAWre> and drewbuntu firefox is alot safer than ie
[20:52] <drewbuntu> still subject to the same exploits
[20:52] <mikeLAWre> difference is
[20:52] <Anthraxus> firefox is becoming the new "IE," bloated, buggy, rushed betas
[20:53] <Anthraxus> :-/
[20:53] <mikeLAWre> any exploit that's been released for firefox that's been serious mozilla
[20:53] <drewbuntu> last 6 months firefox has had more security oatches then IE
[20:53] <drewbuntu> patches
[20:53] <mikeLAWre> or the next and forces patches
[20:53] <drewbuntu> so
[20:53] <mikeLAWre> IE patches take months
[20:53] <Anthraxus> yep
[20:53] <drewbuntu> so
[20:53] <drewbuntu> its still exploitable
[20:53] <VitaminB> the point then is that this internet stuff is like the oild west
[20:53] <Anthraxus> The only real protection is SMART surfing, a nice temp cache and wipe pro
[20:53] <poopstick> Is there any way to make a DVD ISO splittable so I can burn it onto sever
[20:53] <drewbuntu> and the websites have malicious code WAY before firefox patches
[20:53] <mikeLAWre> drew...firefox is ofcourse attacked more, they're *right now exploits tha
[20:53] <VitaminB> very new, very low security
[20:54] <mikeLAWre> none for firefox
[20:54] <mikeLAWre> NONE
[20:54] <VitaminB> anthrxus: whats a temp cache?
[20:54] <VitaminB> and whats wipe prog
[20:54] <Anthraxus> VitaminB= the folder where all the browsing files are stored
[20:54] <Anthraxus> basically
[20:55] <Anthraxus> Temp files for pages, pictures, javascript, activeX (Hackers delight!)
[20:55] <VitaminB> so where and how do you make a temp cahce
[20:55] <Anthraxus> ActiveX is the worst
[20:55] <Anthraxus> VitaminB= you don't, the broswer does
[20:55] <Anthraxus> A decent prog is CCleaner
[20:55] <VitaminB> ok so how do we get it to make it so its safer?
[20:55] <mikeLAWre> in terms of security there really is no comparison to firefox from IE...f
[20:55] <VitaminB> i dont get your point ..you said the only protection is a nice temp cache
[20:55] <Anthraxus> which will remove most of all the temp files/index.dat/other tmp files...
[20:56] <VitaminB> but if thebrowser makes it, how is it more safe?
[20:56] <drewbuntu> Anthraxus: wiping your temp cache does not protect you from malicious web
[20:56] <poopstick> Is there any way to make a DVD ISO splittable so I can burn it onto sever
[20:56] <Anthraxus> no no... I meant a nice prog that will remove temp cache.
[20:56] <VitaminB> whats a wipe prog?
[20:56] <Anthraxus> drewbuntu= true, but it keeps potentially malicious setup files and dlls
[20:56] <deww> poopstick: extract the contents. something like daemon tools might do it
[20:57] <drewbuntu> Anthraxus: no it doesnt
[20:57] <VitaminB> can you run IE through a USB stick and would that make ti safer if temp fi
[20:57] <drewbuntu> once it activate the exploit in your browser, the cahce does nothing
[20:57] <mikeLAWre> poweriso,magiciso will do it aswell poopstick
[20:57] <Anthraxus> Bull shit, you don't empty your cache often, 1000's of tmp files and all
[20:57] <drewbuntu> yes, but they have already been activated
[20:57] <Anthraxus> I didn't say the cache was directly responsible
[20:57] <Anthraxus> I say it's a part of the whole scheme.
[20:58] <Anthraxus> Malicious files are always hiding in tmp cache dirs
[20:58] <VitaminB> hey but what is a temp cache if the browser makes it?
[20:58] <drewbuntu> just set IE to empty cache on exit then
[20:58] <drewbuntu> but you guys are way off base of the first question
[20:58] <VitaminB> ok but i am wondering if I can't install Firefox on an USB stick and run i
[20:58] <Anthraxus> Plus tons of tracking cookies and mess are stored in temp cache
[20:58] <drewbuntu> this is the worst thing i have seen in #help in a while
[20:58] <VitaminB> wouldnt that make it safer since the tracks are stored on the USB stick an
[20:58] <mikeLAWre> IE wasn't created for speed nor security...it was created for easy integr
[20:58] <mikeLAWre> you want to use a real browser use firefox or opera, simple.
[20:59] <drewbuntu> changing browsers will not increase your security enough to even document
[20:59] <VitaminB> CAN U RUN FIREFOX off a USB DRIVE?
[20:59] <mikeLAWre> yes it will drew...
[20:59] <VitaminB> and will tHAT make it any SAFER?
[20:59] <Anthraxus> [11:53pm] <@Anthraxus> The only real protection is SMART surfing, a
[20:59] <drewbuntu> no it wont
[20:59] <VitaminB> why not
[20:59] <mikeLAWre> milw0rm.com search for firefox
[20:59] <VitaminB> if the temp files are on the USB drive
[20:59] <mikeLAWre> then internet explorer
[20:59] <mikeLAWre> then opera
[20:59] <Anthraxus> You're taking my comment(s) out of context and twisting them for your own
[20:59] <mikeLAWre> only IE has insane exploits
[21:00] <drewbuntu> Anthraxus: the better way is to run as non admin with good virus protecti
[21:00] <VitaminB> then wouldnt that be better.. to know your history, cookies and temp files
[21:00] <mikeLAWre> privoxy+squid is a nice filter system
[21:00] <drewbuntu> or run linux or run a mac
[21:00] <VitaminB> how dooes an offline proxy work
[21:00] <VitaminB> and how do you get good filtering with it
[21:01] <drewbuntu> offline should be offmachine
[21:01] <drewbuntu> is what i meant to say
[21:01] <VitaminB> how does that work
[21:01] <drewbuntu> super complicated
[21:01] <JFourier> any ops around
[21:01] <drewbuntu> you set regular expresions to look for executables or certain types of fi
[21:01] <VitaminB> what do you mean by offmachine though?
[21:01] <Anthraxus> drewbuntu= sorry I've NEVER been infected from some stupid hack site - an
[21:02] <drewbuntu> JFourier: this is not an oper channel, try /stats p
[21:02] <drewbuntu> and then contact local oper
[21:02] <VitaminB> what do you mean by offmachine though?
[21:02] <drewbuntu> Anthraxus: thats the most accurate thing you have said tonight
[21:02] <Anthraxus> hahha
[21:02] <Anthraxus> thank you
[21:02] <Anthraxus> :-p
[21:02] <JFourier> ok thanks
[21:03] <drewbuntu> lol
[21:03] <VitaminB> drewbyuntu what is offline proxy
[21:03] <VitaminB> rr off machine
[21:03] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: offmachine meaning not part of your local computer
[21:03] <VitaminB> so another machine on yoru lcoal PC?
[21:03] <VitaminB> or one on the net somewhere
[21:03] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: do you want an easy way to do this?
[21:03] <drewbuntu> is your computer decent?
[21:03] <drewbuntu> like dual core or something?
[21:03] <VitaminB> Centrino Duo
[21:03] <mikeLAWre> heh
[21:04] <mikeLAWre> laptop
[21:04] <drewbuntu> ok
[21:04] <drewbuntu> get the free vmware player
[21:04] <drewbuntu> then find the free ubuntu vmware image
[21:04] <VitaminB> whatsa vmware player
[21:04] <drewbuntu> run them, surf in the vmware with ABSOLOUTELY NO CHANCE of infection
[21:04] <VitaminB> whats a free vmware player
[21:04] <poopstick> Is there any way to store files from an DVD ISO on my hard drive and inst
[21:05] <VitaminB> i dont even know what that is
[21:05] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: google
[21:05] <Anthraxus> haha
[21:05] <VitaminB> im asking you
[21:05] <Anthraxus> VMware surfing
[21:05] <RBL> VMware Player, virtual machine, virtua @ http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[21:05] <Anthraxus> nice
[21:05] <poopstick> any clue?
[21:05] <Anthraxus> If you're that worried... I'd start googling about exploits and how they
[21:05] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[21:06] <VitaminB> im interested but not worried
[21:06] <VitaminB> forgeti t
[21:06] <VitaminB> im asking you to explain somethign and youc ant do it
[21:06] <VitaminB> just forget it
[21:06] <Anthraxus> Know the habits of your enemy better than your own!
[21:06] <VitaminB> you shoud never bring up anything youre not willing to explain
[21:06] <VitaminB> plain and simple
[21:06] <Anthraxus> You COULD google?
[21:06] <VitaminB> im on dialup
[21:06] <Anthraxus> it's free and more indepth that what you'll get here from 10 differing op
[21:06] <VitaminB> my isp, AT&T , has an outage in my aera
[21:06] <Anthraxus> hey, time is on your side ;-)
[21:06] <VitaminB> this probn hasbeen happening for more hen 24 hrs..compeltely down
[21:07] <VitaminB> tru
[21:07] <Anthraxus> lol
[21:07] <VitaminB> but it takes mintues to load pages
[21:07] <VitaminB> Yahoo mail took about that
[21:07] <Jeaton> get a text browser
[21:07] <Anthraxus> Turn off your java settings and what not
[21:07] <Anthraxus> run opera
[21:07] <Anthraxus> it's 10x faster
[21:07] <drewbuntu> VitaminB: try admuncher
[21:07] <Anthraxus> than IE/FF
[21:07] <drewbuntu> www.admuncher.com
[21:07] <Anthraxus> I use adblockplus with G.Filter addon
[21:07] <VitaminB> dont call me an A muncher!!
[21:08] <deww> you can turn off image loading in most graphical browsers
[21:08] <drewbuntu> you can control image loading and flash as well as it WILL be a first lin
[21:08] <Anthraxus> I can't even remember the last time I saw a pop-up
[21:08] <Anthraxus> I turn ALL java off by default.
[21:08] <Anthraxus> I don't want anything manipulating the pages I view.
[21:08] <Jeaton> i have java disabled in Firefox
[21:08] <VitaminB> anthraxus: how
[21:08] <VitaminB> how do you turn off java?
[21:08] <Jeaton> javascript might still be enabled though
[21:08] <Anthraxus> VitaminB= tools/options/content
[21:08] <Anthraxus> I believe
[21:09] <Anthraxus> OH! And install NoScript addon
[21:09] <VitaminB> ok i just turned off JAva
[21:09] <VitaminB> in Tools and Content
[21:09] <Anthraxus> It blocks CSS and all kinds of scripts from running
[21:09] <VitaminB> now will something not work now?
[21:09] <drewbuntu> exactly
[21:09] <Anthraxus> Noscript is awesome
[21:09] <VitaminB> no i mean will simpe web pages not work now?
[21:09] <drewbuntu> so much bad advice coming from here tonight
[21:10] * Anthraxus hands drew the mic, since he obviously is the only competent surfer... lol I'll
[21:11] <drewbuntu> Anthraxus: how is telling someone to turn off all JAVA good advice?
[21:11] <flintston> is there any other non-incredibly complicated way to specify drivers duri
[21:11] <drewbuntu> flintston: yes, you can slipstream them into the CD
[21:11] <flintston> i cannot for the life of me understand why hardware manufacturers are STI
[21:11] <Jessica15> how do i use nickserv here?
[21:11] <flintston> drewbuntu: that sounds complicated
[21:11] <deww> flintston: slipstream, but it isn't exactly easy
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