Session Start: Sat Jan 05 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #Help
[00:20] <jdooz121> does anyone have any prorat ip numbers?
[00:20] <mikelarry> ...
[00:30] <Aiges> I can't get my mic working. When running the sound hardware test wizard I get
[00:31] <Dr-Drew> upgrade your sound card
[00:31] <Dr-Drew> its not full duplex
[00:34] <Aiges> The card itself or drivers?
[00:35] <Dr-Drew> the hardware
[00:35] <Dr-Drew> how old is your computer?
[00:36] <Aiges> It's new
[00:37] <Aiges> So I don't think it's a hardware limitation
[00:38] <Dr-Drew> then try drivers
[00:43] <lol3izer> ¿uʍop ǝpısdn ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ ɟo llɐ sı ʎɥʍ
[00:43] <lol3izer> o˙o uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ ɟo llɐ 'ʇı pǝllɐʇsuı ı ǝɔu
[00:51] <iroiro> is there a way to hibernate a flash file?
[00:52] <iroiro> i've got a game i want to continue :|
[00:53] <Sculptor_> hm - don't close it :)
[00:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[00:53] <iroiro> also, it starts to take up 100% of cpu at some points :(
[00:53] <Sculptor_> have you been given any passrods, iroiro
[00:53] <iroiro> no, Sculptor_
[00:53] <Sculptor_> damn
[00:54] <iroiro> :( awesome game, but no save/restore options :(
[00:55] <Sculptor_> which one (if not secret) ?
[00:56] <iroiro> http://de.fishki.net/picsw/122007/29/lines/flash.swf - no lines must be cros
[01:02] <Sculptor_> iroiro: brilliant
[01:02] <Sculptor_> good catch
[01:03] <lol3izer> ¿uʍop ǝpısdn ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ ɟo llɐ sı ʎɥʍ
[01:03] <lol3izer> o˙o uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ ɟo llɐ 'ʇı pǝllɐʇsuı ı ǝɔu
[01:03] <mikelarry> nice, thanks for sharing
[01:04] <lol3izer> ¿ǝnssı sıɥʇ oʇuı uɐɹ ǝslǝ ǝuoʎuɐ sɐɥ 'ǝɹǝɥ dlǝɥ ǝ
[01:04] <mikelarry> lol3
[01:04] <mikelarry> you're outputting gibberish
[01:04] <lol3izer> ¿
[01:05] <mikelarry> you need a english character set
[01:06] <lol3izer> \:< uʍop ǝpısdn ʇsnɾ sı ʇıɥs ʎɯ 'ʇǝs ɹǝʇɥɔɐɹɐɥɔ
[01:11] <Sculptor_> the same to you, buddy
[01:12] <iroiro> Sculptor_ yeah :) level 12 in 14 minutes :)
[01:12] <Sculptor_> not bat
[01:12] <Sculptor_> i completed first 3 levels - then stopped - i'm working on a excel workbo
[01:13] <iroiro> ah. good luck in your work :)
[01:47] <Ghostwolf> I have a program that auto-runs itself on start up & if I remove the regi
[01:50] <mikelarry> what what area read only?
[01:52] <blanto> does it get recreated everytime you open the program? check the program opt
[01:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[01:57] <blanto> try disabling it through msconfig as well
[01:57] <blanto> that should stop it
[02:13] <Haramov> hi, i have an error msg when i start up windows...
[02:13] <Haramov> the instruction at "0x1001f81" referenced memory at "0x7d80be9a". The memor
[02:13] <Haramov> is my RAM gonna die?
[02:16] <iroiro> get memtest86 and test your RAM
[02:19] <ASk> this is not related to your RAM dying
[02:20] <ASk> it just means that some application that starts up on boot tries to access memo
[02:20] <Sculptor> yes
[02:21] <Sculptor> poorly written software, imho
[02:22] <blanto> that's not an opinion, that's fact
[02:25] <blanto> could also be corrupt install, incompatibility, etc.
[02:30] <Haramov> i see thanks
[02:38] <Jenno007> is a 256MB NVIDA(R) GeForce(R) 8600M GT
[02:38] <Jenno007> is that good?
[02:47] <Raindm> Why when i add Proxy to IE i still see my regular ip address and not PROXY a
[02:51] <Raindm> i mean.. if i use proxu in Internet explorer shouldn't i see my proxy ip whe
[02:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[03:04] <Sculptor> heh
[03:05] <Sculptor> Raindm, Raindm, if you do not use *true* anonimous proxy, servers can see
[03:05] <Sculptor> because they can request it from proxy server
[03:06] <Jenno007> 256MB NVIDA(R) GeForce(R) 8600M GT - Is that a good video card
[03:09] <Raindm> ok, thanks
[03:25] <Matt`> whats the safest dirextx fro win2k
[03:25] <Matt`> had problems in the past
[03:25] <Ghostwolf> whatever windows update installs
[03:26] <Matt`> hmm, thats what would have though, but Im using an app that tells me I dont
[03:26] <Matt`> typos everywhere
[03:27] <Ghostwolf> hmm... well it might not use dx9.0c for 2000
[03:27] <Ghostwolf> since it predates xp
[03:27] <Ghostwolf> ya there we go
[03:27] <Ghostwolf> quick google says it'll only use up to 8.1
[03:28] <Ghostwolf> latest dx is 9,0c
[03:28] <Matt`> ok
[03:29] <Ghostwolf> well wikipedia says 9.0c should install
[03:29] <Ghostwolf> but the top 5 or so hit indicate otherwise...
[03:30] * Matt` skeerd
[03:30] <Pd__> I was wondering if there was an addon or a way for me to identify which tab or
[03:30] * Pd__ is now known as Primedeat
[03:30] <Primedeat> oops
[03:32] <bandett> i got ati card here that will not display anything after board cmos update
[03:32] <bandett> card will not display on 3 different boards
[03:33] <face-> are there usually A/C outlets in first class for international flights?
[03:48] <tibet> call your airline and ask them face-
[03:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[04:00] <minwas> geia, 8umiste m ligo pws kanw register to e-mail m
[04:04] <marbye> how you search for a list of channels in singapore?
[04:07] <blanto> marbye: you can only search by channel name/topci
[04:07] <blanto> topic
[04:09] <marbye> okay thanks!
[04:10] <blanto> no problem
[04:43] <Sculptor> anoyne good with excel vba?
[04:43] <Sculptor> how to make a struct
[04:44] <XNeigh> does anyone remember useful little app dfolder, size extension allowing you
[04:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:01] <RcRaCk> anyone here ever work with fiber glass or carbon fiber ?
[05:02] <brainfree> hi
[05:03] <brainfree> I wish to find an easy to use draw program that has some nifty features,
[05:09] <mike40> hi!
[05:19] <brainfree> are there any good alternatives to photoshop
[05:21] <brainfree> im not talking PS copies, I mean programs that make is easier to draw art
[05:22] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[05:24] <ASk> paint.net?
[05:28] <EdisoS> 50=3^x
[05:28] <EdisoS> how can u solve an equation like that?
[05:36] <blanto> 50^(1/x)=3
[05:37] <ASk> EdisoS: logarithms.
[05:37] <ASk> there isn't an easy way to calculate the value, but there are tables
[05:38] <ASk> and usually, the answer itself in form of a logarithm is enough
[05:38] <MaHkuM_> slm,
[05:38] <MaHkuM_> slm,
[05:38] <MaHkuM_> millet,
[05:42] <EdisoS> found the answer
[05:42] <EdisoS> x = log 50/log 3, if anyone is interested
[05:48] <RcRaCk> anyone here ever work with fiber glass or carbon fiber ?
[05:48] <tibet> yes
[05:48] <tibet> its ugly
[05:48] <tibet> ;)
[05:49] <tibet> so what about it RcRaCk
[05:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[05:56] <RcRaCk> ?
[06:32] <az437> can i go 2 swiftirc
[06:32] <az437> i need the link of swift irc
[06:32] <dirtpoor> try google
[06:32] <az437> -.-
[06:33] <az437> no one nows it????
[06:33] <dirtpoor> google
[06:33] <az437> ./sever swiftirc.net or something
[06:35] <az437> DOES SOME ONE HAS THE LINK OF SWIFT IRC??????
[06:35] <ReVeiLeR> Anyone ever experienced windows xp "tabbing" out of whatever your doing an
[06:35] <dirtpoor> run a virus scan recently?
[06:36] <ReVeiLeR> Im 90% positive its not a virus. But guess i could.
[06:37] <IRWolfie-> az437 ive pmed you the server name for swiftirc
[06:41] <qlich> hi
[06:42] <qlich> why i cant join (+i) channels?
[06:42] <dirtpoor> cause you aren't invited
[06:43] <qlich> who can give me invite, one from this channel or only OP etc.?
[06:44] <ReVeiLeR> only op.
[06:44] <dirtpoor> only an op on the channel you want into
[06:44] <VitaminB> yo
[06:44] <qlich> ok, thx, & how i can get list of ops of a channel if i cant get in?
[06:44] <dirtpoor> you can't
[06:45] <qlich> nice :-D
[06:45] <qlich> k c ya
[06:45] <VitaminB> its a setup
[06:45] <VitaminB> dont call it a comeback, ivebeen here for years..
[06:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:08] <Diadem> anyone have any experince building a house instead of buying one? any idea w
[07:14] <Osc> the price depends on how much you do yourself
[07:14] <Diadem> i'm not a handyman
[07:14] <Diadem> if you can't plug it in i won't touch it
[07:14] <deww> my previous roommate was building his own place
[07:15] <deww> he had a hard time getting a loan because not many people do that
[07:15] <Diadem> any idea how much more it cost him?
[07:15] <deww> nope... he had troubles getting a loan :P
[07:15] <power-v> hi; is there a channel for a general (simple) pc hardware question?
[07:16] <Diadem> (i have no frame of refrence for the cost, that's why i'm asking)
[07:16] <deww> Diadem: thatwas the same issue he had with the bank
[07:16] <Diadem> power-v: yes. this one
[07:16] <Diadem> deww: ah
[07:16] <rhelic> I've used WhatTheFont but it can't discover what font is used in the Xolegel
[07:17] <power-v> thanks dia :) ... what is the "form factor" of a "standard" hard drive that
[07:17] <deww> power-v: yes
[07:17] <deww> 3.5"
[07:17] <power-v> fab. thanks lots
[07:18] * kinpmp is now known as BillGateJ
[07:18] <KaMiKaZa> any possible way to Import to Outlook Express Database from Thunderbird?
[07:18] <deww> you might want to know what type of connection it uses too. most common now ar
[07:18] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: Thunderbird to Express? hmm, I doubt it
[07:19] <deww> http://www.insideoe.com/ maybe s omething there
[07:19] <KaMiKaZa> rhelic> I got 12.000 emails
[07:19] * BillGateJ is now known as kingpimpo
[07:19] <KaMiKaZa> and i got some problem with thunder
[07:19] * kingpimpo is now known as kingpimp
[07:19] <KaMiKaZa> i need outlook express
[07:19] <deww> oh
[07:19] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: aren't the emails still on the server? if so, then just use Expre
[07:19] <power-v> deww, thanks a lot. i think mine's IDE since it's a bit old. am searching f
[07:19] <deww> tbird, if i recall properly, stores i n a standard mbox format
[07:19] <KaMiKaZa> rhelic> 12000 emails?!
[07:19] <deww> power-v: ok. they're not hard to find.
[07:20] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: yes
[07:20] <KaMiKaZa> haha =>
[07:20] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: wtf would you do if your PC exploded?
[07:20] <rhelic> you'd lose 12,000 emails!
[07:20] <KaMiKaZa> hm true
[07:20] <KaMiKaZa> but
[07:20] <rhelic> keep email on the server, back it up, use an email reader that caches the se
[07:20] <rhelic> any other setup is asking for trouble
[07:20] <IamKing> or just use Gmail :P
[07:21] <deww> but still. i think tbird uses standard mbox format
[07:21] <KaMiKaZa> maybe some program to export thunderbird database?
[07:21] <rhelic> KaMiKaZa: learn how to Google http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/th2outlook.p
[07:21] <power-v> thanks a lot all~
[07:21] <Jumpie> anyone know if 'one missed call' is worth seeing?
[07:22] <rhelic> Jumpie: haha, seriously
[07:22] <Jumpie> lol
[07:22] <KaMiKaZa> rhelic> ownz bro thanks alot!
[07:22] <rhelic> Jumpie: you can count on 1 hand all the good teeny slashers
[07:22] <talenting> ar yra lietuviu?
[07:22] <rhelic> which is pretty much just Scream and the classics from the early 80s
[07:23] <talenting> ar yra lietuviu?
[07:23] <IamKing> talenting: sorry, no Lithuanian :P
[07:23] <RBL> english: english only, inglés solamente, alleen Engels, anglais seulement, nur
[07:23] <talenting> thank you
[07:23] <talenting> :)
[07:23] <Jumpie> rhelic it loked kinda suspensful but figured it'd be predictable
[07:23] <Jumpie> :P
[07:23] <Soulnight> Can you give me Arabs Chat Server
[07:24] <rhelic> Jumpie: the premise is horrible... imho, they should just cancel their cell
[07:24] <Jumpie> haha
[07:24] <Jumpie> but death always knows rhelic...death always knows
[07:24] <rhelic> "dude what if I get a call?!"
[07:24] <rhelic> "bro just switch to T-Mobile!"
[07:24] <talenting> can you giv me lithuania server?
[07:24] <rhelic> talenting: have you tried irc.efnet.li
[07:25] <rhelic> Jumpie: weird that Yahoo hasn't updated yet http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1
[07:25] <talenting> no no
[07:25] <IamKing> rhelic: you mean .lt? :P
[07:25] <talenting> yea
[07:25] <rhelic> IamKing: maybe
[07:25] <talenting> ;
[07:25] <talenting> :)
[07:25] <Jumpie> i heard avp2 was aweful too
[07:26] <IamKing> AVP1 was aweful too :P
[07:26] <rhelic> Jumpie: Yahoo ratings say so too
[07:26] <Jumpie> IamKing but comparatively it was better hehe
[07:26] <Jumpie> avp wasnt too bad tho
[07:26] <Jumpie> it had a semi plot and some good actors
[07:26] <talenting> viso gero:P
[07:26] <DrNight> It was awesome if all you wanted was AvP.
[07:27] <DrNight> Just don't expect any plot. I did get a laugh from the doomed romance, how
[07:27] <DrNight> Though it took too much screen time.
[07:30] <deww> shh
[07:30] <deww> don't remind me that i saw both
[07:30] <deww> ^_^
[07:30] <Dingaling> avp2 sucked ass too
[07:30] <Dingaling> ?
[07:31] <deww> yeah
[07:31] <deww> lower budget than the first
[07:31] <Dingaling> wtf are these people doing making shit movies
[07:31] <rhelic> Dingaling: hah, you expected it to be good?
[07:31] <Dingaling> no, I expected it to be better
[07:31] <rhelic> everybody is cashing in on retro subjects in every market
[07:31] <rhelic> some companies are just trying to milk it, and let's face it, the good direc
[07:32] <Dingaling> you'd figure that movies would get better with time
[07:32] <Dingaling> instead it's going down along with peoples IQ's
[07:33] <Dingaling> not having kids until IQ pills are invented
[07:40] <Jumpie> well
[07:40] <Jumpie> movies are suffering at boxoffice in general
[07:41] <Jumpie> i think its VOD/internet at everyone's fingertips
[07:43] <rhelic> nah, movies are doing fine
[07:43] <rhelic> this time of the year is slow, but if you look at trends, movies are doing v
[07:48] <Osc> movies make more because tickets cost more
[07:49] <Osc> they never quote ticket sales when guageing how well a movie does, only $
[07:49] <trOJanss0> a'kummmmmmmm
[07:51] <Osc> alos, movies are probably doing better now because of the writers strike
[07:51] <deww> stats are always skewed in the favor of whatever results they want
[07:51] <Osc> indeed =]
[07:51] <rhelic> yes, but movies sell better for the simple reason there's more people every
[07:52] <deww> the stats aren't lying. the people using the stats are :D
[07:52] <Osc> 57% of all stats are made up. research proves it!
[07:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[07:53] <rhelic> don't forget the average number of legs in an American household is 3
[07:54] <Osc> I cover that for my home all by myself <ha!>
[07:54] <rhelic> Osc: about ticket sales, yea exactly, movie studios see it as an investment,
[07:55] <rhelic> business is the enemy of art
[07:55] <rhelic> but also the enabler
[07:55] <deww> movie theaters making money are separate tho
[07:56] <rhelic> I was just reading how EA just closed down the game house that produced thei
[08:00] <deww> lots of stuff like thath appen in game dev studios
[08:00] <deww> the good ones go first
[08:00] <deww> the ones that milk money stays
[08:00] <Jeaton> i have this laptop and the screen kept flickering black up to the point it s
[08:00] <deww> the back light is gone
[08:00] <Jeaton> i ran a diagnostic and it tells me no inverter detection has failed
[08:00] <deww> ooh
[08:00] <deww> is it a dell?
[08:00] <Jeaton> would it be the inverter or the backlight
[08:00] <Jeaton> yes
[08:00] <Jeaton> dell inspiron 9100
[08:01] <deww> is it under warranty?
[08:01] <Jeaton> no
[08:01] <deww> damn
[08:01] <deww> i remember some dells where the invertors were known to be faulty and dell wou
[08:01] <deww> but those are p2-300 laptops
[08:01] <Jeaton> do you know of any way of testing it, see which is the problem
[08:01] <deww> you ran diag mode w/ external monitors?
[08:01] <Jeaton> i already took them both out
[08:02] <deww> i have no way myself to diagnose it
[08:02] <Jeaton> i actually ran the diag the first time through the internal monitor
[08:02] <Jeaton> until the screen stayed black
[08:02] <Jeaton> then i ran it through an external one
[08:03] <Jeaton> btw, when i say the screen stays black i mean really dim
[08:03] <deww> yeah
[08:03] <deww> invertor is for the backlight
[08:03] <Jeaton> yeah
[08:03] <Jeaton> i took it apart and found them both
[08:04] <deww> haha damn
[08:04] <Jeaton> backlight being hooked up to the inverter
[08:04] <deww> you can see if you can find the parts off ebay f or that model
[08:04] <Jeaton> yeah, i actually found them both on ebay and trying to debate which piece to
[08:04] <Jeaton> both cost about $30
[08:04] <deww> get both
[08:04] <deww> :D
[08:04] <Jeaton> yeah, i guess i can do that
[08:05] <deww> i say invertor first due to the diag
[08:05] <Jeaton> ok
[08:05] <Jeaton> i was thinking the same thing, just needed a second opinion
[08:05] <Jeaton> thanks
[08:05] <Jeaton> and if that doesnt work, ill go ahead and get the backlight
[08:25] <Treval> Is Aquos Sharp the best LCD TV out there?
[08:28] <probx> How can i Resurect a Laptop CD Drive ? or How can i Remove Internal Laptop CD
[08:29] <deww> probably replacable. maybe, maybe not. some were modular and removable by the
[08:30] <probx> Because i try to flash my CD Drive and i probably kill it !
[08:30] <deww> :(
[08:30] <probx> I Format and try anything but now work :S
[08:31] <deww> can you reflash it with old firmware
[08:31] <probx> i dont know how !
[08:31] <probx> do u want to know a tutor that explain how can i reflash my cd drive and how
[08:32] <deww> i am not guaranteeing anything, but if you cna find the proper firmware for yo
[08:32] <probx> *i want
[08:32] <deww> same way you fucked it up to begin with
[08:32] <Anthraxus> AH
[08:33] <Anthraxus> I will show you the light
[08:34] <probx> i dont remember what is the name of my Laptop cd drive ...
[08:34] <probx> omg !
[08:34] <probx> i know is a Slimtype
[08:35] <deww> who makes the system? maybe you can find info on that
[08:35] <w0t> if you have a business with "parts" in several locations, what is the correct e
[08:35] <probx> Acer 3004WLMI
[08:35] <Anthraxus> You should head over to http://club.cdfreaks.com/
[08:36] <Anthraxus> find your drive manufacturer subforum and search for reflash
[08:36] <deww> w0t: could be divisions, departments, or satellites
[08:36] <Anthraxus> Hopefully you saved the default firmware, if not just DL it from the Manu
[08:36] <w0t> satelites, eh? :o
[08:36] <Anthraxus> You'll probably need an EEPROM flasher
[08:36] <w0t> there isn't anything that is more right than anything else?
[08:36] <Anthraxus> And a floppy
[08:37] <deww> w0t: depends. satellite offices is pretty general
[08:38] <probx> Yea Because During 8month ago my CD Drive wont read any CD ...so i try to Rep
[08:38] <w0t> alright, i'll go with division then :)
[08:39] <deww> w0t: "our other offices are located at <insert area>
[08:39] <deww> :D
[08:39] <Anthraxus> yikes! laptop drives.... not much support for them
[08:39] <probx> :S in my city i have a lot of support :S but cost me a lot of money to repair
[08:39] <w0t> it's for an employee registration in a hypothetical company, as in choose where
[08:39] <w0t> :v
[08:40] <probx> That's why i have a USB 2.0 External CD/DVD Drive !! To Read all my CD But i
[08:41] <Memphetic> I use Guitar Rig 2 as a replacement for an amplifier... would their be an
[08:41] <Memphetic> (webcam)
[08:42] <Memphetic> the problem is, if I switch the input source to stereo mix, it obviously
[08:43] <Treval> How about cam mic?
[08:44] <Treval> Oh nvm..
[08:46] <aloxa> tell me a good browser
[08:46] <adamw005> i can log into my ftp account using ftp surfer, but when trying the same a
[08:46] <w0t> what is the english name of the swedish city Linkping?
[08:46] <Memphetic> if there was a program
[08:46] <Memphetic> that like...
[08:46] <Memphetic> let you record from a specific input channel WITHOUT changing the default
[08:47] <jackal^> adamw005, try ftp://user:pass@address.com
[08:48] <adamw005> tyty
[08:48] <Treval> A good browser: firefox/opera.
[08:48] <adamw005> ok how can i copy multiple folders into another folder? i want to put the
[08:49] <adamw005> i second firefox, get the NoScript add on for it too
[08:49] <Treval> Lovely addons.
[08:49] <an> how come this room don't have keyword links?
[08:50] <jackal^> ?
[08:50] <Treval> ?test
[08:50] <Treval> etc
[08:50] <jackal^> it did has
[08:50] <Treval> I think RBL is a bot.
[08:50] <Treval> @help
[08:50] <jackal^> not everyone can use it tho :P
[08:51] <Treval> Yeah. ;D
[08:51] <an> its a packet bot
[08:51] <jackal^> adamw005, cant you copy them when you are in explorer
[08:52] <an> anyone here use nant?
[08:53] <adamw005> nope, it lists the files and stuff kinda like dos. no gui where you can d
[08:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[08:54] <jackal^> adamw005, "To view this FTP site in Windows Explorer, click Page, and then
[08:59] <adamw005> damn so close. it will only let me drag,copy, or copy to folder to a loca
[09:00] <jackal^> you should be able to do everything
[09:01] <adamw005> for some reason it wont. is it the server software maybe?
[09:01] <adamw005> it wouldnt let me in the 2 diff ftp programs and now explorer
[09:02] <jackal^> shouldnt be
[09:02] <XB23> guys, how ive upgraded the size of my hdd but windows is still saying its 50gb
[09:02] <probx> Where can i Find Firmware or EEPROM For ACER 3004WLMI ??
[09:02] <XB23> diskmgr reports its 100gb , but when i try to extend it says volume is not ext
[09:02] <XB23> any ideas
[09:04] <aloxa> tell me a good browser
[09:04] <XB23> firefox
[09:04] <aloxa> better?
[09:05] <jackal^> opera :D
[09:05] <aloxa> best?
[09:05] <jackal^> err
[09:06] <aloxa> :P
[09:06] <aloxa> so?
[09:07] <IamKing> can't wait for Firefox 3.0 to come out of beta
[09:07] <jackal^> what you dont like in those 2?
[09:07] <aloxa> mozilla firefox you mean
[09:07] <aloxa> ?
[09:08] <jackal^> yes and opera
[09:08] <aloxa> which is faster/
[09:09] <IamKing> Opera is faster
[09:09] <IamKing> but Opera doesn't have the plethora of useful extensions that Firefox 2.0 h
[09:09] <IamKing> which is why I use both
[09:10] <jackal^> like?
[09:10] <aloxa> plethora of useful extensions you mean...?
[09:11] <IamKing> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
[09:12] <aloxa> i am going for opera
[09:12] <IamKing> a lot of web sites are not formatted properly or operate properly with Oper
[09:12] <IamKing> aloxa: why bother making a choice between one or the other when you can si
[09:12] <aloxa> why have both?
[09:13] <jackal^> none of sites operates identically in all browsers
[09:13] <aloxa> i want a fast browser which open fash all my websites nothing else!!!! which
[09:13] <IamKing> aloxa: since we don't know which web sites are "all your websites", we can
[09:14] <aloxa> lol
[09:14] <aloxa> ok i want to be fash!!!
[09:14] <aloxa> FAST
[09:14] <IamKing> Opera is fast
[09:14] <aloxa> downloading:P
[09:14] <IamKing> Opera has that cool Speed Dial feature :P
[09:15] <aloxa> :)
[09:15] <aloxa> see you
[09:16] <Treval> Someone tell me some top xbox360 games? Or some that you like?
[09:17] <IamKing> bleh @ Xbox
[09:40] <SumStoleN> Does anyone in here know anything about Shareaza?
[09:42] <Treval> We know it's not allowed here. ;D
[09:43] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Do people use XP-64bit? is it reliable? Thanks
[09:45] <Jookya> am i allowed to ask a tax related question?
[09:45] <SumStoleN> Treval: What do you mean it's not allowed here?
[09:46] <blue^moon> did you read the topic?
[09:46] <Jookya> i was reading about Hob by Expenses as a tax deduction, i play computer game
[09:47] <Jookya> hehe
[09:47] <SumStoleN> So you're saying Shareaza falls under "illegal", I assume?
[09:47] <blue^moon> yes
[09:47] <SumStoleN> P2P isn't illegal. Copying copyrighted materials is illegal.
[09:48] <Jeaton> Shareaza isn't illegal
[09:48] <SumStoleN> Thank you.
[09:48] <Jeaton> what most do with shareaza is different though
[09:48] <blue^moon> we don't know what you want to share so we don't allow it at all
[09:49] <blue^moon> and its not negotiable
[09:49] <Jeaton> why not let him ask his question
[09:49] <SumStoleN> Ohhh. I'm sorry. My friends and I use it to send pictures and shit to eac
[09:49] <Jeaton> and decide from there
[09:49] <Jeaton> blue^moon - do you classify bittorrent as illegal?
[09:50] <blue^moon> i classify it as off topic for this channel
[09:50] <blue^moon> and the reason its in the topic is this is a tired debate
[09:51] <SumStoleN> You're not really in charge around her, are you blue^moon...
[09:51] <TheUni> heh
[09:51] <SumStoleN> I'm actually just having a computer issue with it, not Shareaza itself.
[09:51] <SumStoleN> I get this message: Windows cannot find 'J:\Shareaza\Uninstall\unins000.e
[09:51] <SumStoleN> Thanks.
[09:52] <blue^moon> I'm pretty sure I said not in this channel
[09:52] <SumStoleN> So... I'm trying to get shareaza basically OFF my computer, and I get tha
[09:52] <Jeaton> SumStoleN - reinstall then unistall
[09:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[09:56] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Do people use XP-64bit? is it reliable? Thank you
[09:56] <Jeaton> yes, people use it
[09:57] <Jeaton> and it's just as reliable, I think, you just won't find as many drivers for
[09:57] <K_Dallas> i see
[09:57] <TheUni> K_Dallas: Jeaton is exactly right. i think people have better luck with *cri
[09:57] <Jeaton> well, i take that back
[09:57] <K_Dallas> would it be wiser to install vista on a network instead
[09:57] <K_Dallas> i see, thanks
[09:58] <Jeaton> i know it was that way awhile back, it could have changed since then
[09:58] <TheUni> hasn't changed much. 64bit is really only good imo for servers... too much t
[10:00] <d0uglas> Hi. milligram for milligram, about how much stronger is alprazolam than lor
[10:00] <Mafaioz> wikipedia.org
[10:00] <d0uglas> in terms of peak therapeutic effect, forget half life
[10:01] <DuoMaxwel> ok i have a question. why is ups so retarded?
[10:01] <DuoMaxwel> I called yesterday (friday) morning at 8AM or so
[10:01] <DuoMaxwel> Right before checking out on a website
[10:02] <K_Dallas> Q2: Can i block certain sites at router level ?
[10:02] <DuoMaxwel> i asked "If I pay 20 dollars for next day air saver will i get it saturda
[10:03] <DuoMaxwel> they told me yes i would....alas scheduled delivery is monday
[10:03] <TheUni> K_Dallas: yup, depends on the router
[10:03] <TheUni> K_Dallas: or you could run a small transparent proxy
[10:03] <K_Dallas> TheUni, d-link d-615. i am going to look around its setups then, thanks
[10:03] <TheUni> np
[10:03] <K_Dallas> TheUni, the small ... sounds hard. any link with explanation on it?
[10:04] <K_Dallas> (right now i only need to block youtube)
[10:07] <TheUni> on one computer or all?
[10:08] <TheUni> easiest way would just be to set a dns entry for youtube to 127.0.0.1 in hos
[10:10] <rhelic> I agree, that will work very well
[10:10] <rhelic> unless you're on a Windows domain, then HOSTs is ignored, but that's only fo
[10:10] <eltaco> don't you need to set a full domain in hosts?
[10:11] <eltaco> ie youtube.* won't be enough?
[10:11] <rhelic> well let's say if youtube.org forwards to youtube.com, blocking the .com mea
[10:11] <K_Dallas> TheUni, that is what i do, using hosts, but i was wondering if i could get
[10:11] <eltaco> ya try that
[10:11] <rhelic> so no, youtube.com is enough
[10:12] <rhelic> K_Dallas: home grade routers can't help you
[10:12] <TheUni> K_Dallas: only if your router supports it
[10:12] <TheUni> rhelic: some can, equipped w/ dd-wrt
[10:12] <rhelic> you need a more higher end one, or one that claims built in web blocking
[10:12] <K_Dallas> i am inside my router config page and it seems that i could apply some kin
[10:13] <K_Dallas> rhelic, it seems to have web filtering
[10:13] <rhelic> K_Dallas: filtering out or filtering in?
[10:13] <K_Dallas> let me check
[10:13] <rhelic> if it talks about ports, then no, it won't help you
[10:13] <K_Dallas> here is what it says:
[10:13] <K_Dallas> The Access Control option allows you to control access in and out of your
[10:14] <TheUni> if you can set an acl blacklist, that's exactly what you want
[10:14] <ShadowAKF> part
[10:14] <K_Dallas> well i set one, sort of. now i have to wait and see if my daughter complai
[10:15] <DuoMaxwel> bleh....you shouldnt limit your daughters access to the internet
[10:15] <K_Dallas> it is just that even if what she watches on youotube is all right, there a
[10:15] <DuoMaxwel> how old is she?
[10:16] <K_Dallas> DuoMaxwel, yeah, you do that
[10:16] <K_Dallas> 11
[10:16] <DuoMaxwel> oh nvm
[10:16] <DuoMaxwel> i withdraw my previous statement =P
[10:16] <K_Dallas> :) no worry
[10:28] <RDMutt> open sorce audio converter? anyone have a favorite. it needs to handle ever
[10:28] <VitaminB> yo
[10:29] <_DKC_> if i have a router can i make it hide my ip?
[10:30] <RDMutt> no. you use a proxy to hide your ip DKC
[10:30] <_DKC_> hmmm
[10:30] <RDMutt> and even then it can be found if they really want to find you
[10:30] <VitaminB> is proxy a piece of software?
[10:30] <_DKC_> no
[10:30] <_DKC_> i dunno
[10:30] <VitaminB> is it hardware?
[10:31] <_DKC_> RDMutt can a proxy hide a router's external ip?
[10:31] <VitaminB> it sites between the router and the net?
[10:33] <RDMutt> dkc, that's the entire point of a proxy
[10:33] <VitaminB> proxy=on behalf of
[10:33] <VitaminB> or
[10:33] <VitaminB> proxy=in between?
[10:34] <RDMutt> vitaminB, inbetween
[10:34] <_DKC_> does a program exist that's made to use multiple proxies while connected onli
[10:34] <RDMutt> yes DKC, not at the same time. but they exist
[10:34] <RDMutt> google
[10:34] <rhelic> there are FireFox plugins that go that
[10:34] <_DKC_> i want behind just http usage
[10:35] <_DKC_> err beyond
[10:35] <_DKC_> sorry
[10:43] <Nebu1a> Hey im trying to find information on Authentication/Authorisation/Registrati
[10:44] <rhelic> Nebu1a: HTACCESS is the old way to do it
[10:45] <rhelic> but now you would use a server side scripting language and write it yourself
[10:45] <rhelic> be it ASP, ASP.NET, PHP
[10:45] <XB23> php is your easiest bet $_SESSIONS in php are very simple
[10:45] <Nebu1a> i dont need to know the server coding as such, just an overview of how it wo
[10:46] <Nebu1a> i need to draw some UML Diagrams, of a registration system as a whole
[10:46] <Nebu1a> but i need to get some inspiration as to how a reg system works,
[10:47] <Nebu1a> any futher suggs ?
[10:47] <VitaminB> a trained programer?
[10:47] <VitaminB> who speciaizes in this niche?
[10:47] <VitaminB> or google is *alllwayysss* your best friend
[10:48] <Nebu1a> yeah ive tried googs, no luck though
[10:48] <VitaminB> grin
[10:48] <VitaminB> uh oh
[10:49] * Linds is now known as Lindy_
[10:49] <IvailoPnv> hii are there people from Brussels here
[10:51] <rhelic> IvailoPnv: if you're looking for conversation or localers, try joining a cha
[10:52] <Sculptor> IvailoPnv, jean claude van damme just parted
[10:52] <jackal^> lol
[10:52] <pimpddy49> anyone have a usb to rs232 driver that works with vista
[10:53] <Sculptor> such driver is hardware specific - you need to find one for your particula
[10:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[10:53] <rhelic> driver?
[10:53] <rhelic> pimpddy49: I would think that has to be a totally hardware based solution
[10:54] <Sculptor> hardware needs a driver in order to work
[10:54] <VitaminB> ouhhh
[10:54] <VitaminB> ahhhhh
[10:54] <rhelic> pimpddy49: your conversion cable required a driver too?
[10:54] <Sculptor> i have rs232->usb interface - and a driver
[10:55] <rhelic> hmm, I guess you would need a driver to get Windows USB stuff to look at the
[10:55] <pimpddy49> i plugged the cable in and cista said it installed scucessfully but its n
[10:55] <pimpddy49> to do what i want
[10:55] <Anthraxus> rhelic!
[10:55] <pimpddy49> so i dunno what to do
[10:55] <rhelic> Anty
[10:55] <IvailoPnv> Sculptor ?
[10:56] <IvailoPnv> jean claude van damme just parted
[10:56] <Anthraxus> bbbl....gotta pick up my bike parts
[10:56] <rhelic> pimpddy49: why can't you simply buy a PCI based USB card for the computer, i
[10:56] <rhelic> Anthraxus: see how you are
[10:56] <rhelic> Anthraxus: it's YOU that leaves
[10:57] <pimpddy49> the cable was like 10 bucks
[10:57] <pimpddy49> and i need the serial part of it, not the usb part
[10:57] <pimpddy49> the comp is brand new
[10:57] <rhelic> well then you meant RS232 to usb... you said it backwards
[10:57] <rhelic> despite, a serial card is pretty cheap and less hassle
[10:58] <pimpddy49> its a laptop though dont wanna start messing around with internal parts
[10:58] <pimpddy49> especially since its about 24 hours old
[10:58] <rhelic> oh
[10:58] <rhelic> yea you can't do much with a laptop
[10:58] <rhelic> unless you can get a docking station that has a serial port
[10:58] <rhelic> err parrallel
[10:59] <pimpddy49> if windows said it installed succesfully im guessing it shold just work
[10:59] <rhelic> no idea, these kinds of solutions are a tad hackish
[10:59] <pimpddy49> anyowher ei can go to check solutuins
[10:59] <dlapree> can someone help me I am not able to double click links in irc to open the
[11:01] <rhelic> check Tools > Options > IRC > Catching
[11:02] <dlapree> ok i looked there, and I have URL enabled
[11:03] <jackal^> what else?
[11:03] <dlapree> and still seems not to work
[11:04] <dlapree> web browser: open in new window and activatet he windwo are selected too
[11:04] <jackal^> i have everything checked except: URLs, Emails, Place ? ...
[11:05] <rhelic> weird
[11:05] <rhelic> http://www.google.com
[11:05] <rhelic> so you can't double click that? you know it looks like normal text, no blue
[11:05] <dlapree> can'tdouble click that
[11:06] <jackal^> dlapree, type /remote off and try again
[11:06] <dlapree> my old irc used to work fine
[11:06] <dlapree> lol is that gonna disconnect me or something?
[11:06] <jackal^> no
[11:06] <dlapree> nice!!
[11:06] <dlapree> thats the ticket
[11:07] <dlapree> how come that shit was on?
[11:07] <jackal^> it is by default
[11:07] <rhelic> the better to pwn you with my dear
[11:07] <dlapree> i see
[11:07] <Matt`> isnt directx included with windows update for windows 2000
[11:07] <dlapree> thx for the help guys
[11:07] <jackal^> dlapree, that will disable your scripts tho
[11:08] <dlapree> no problem
[11:08] <dlapree> i don't run any scripts
[11:08] <jackal^> you seem to ;)
[11:08] <dlapree> oh ok what do you mean
[11:09] <jackal^> /remote off disables your scripts which may prevent you from running a comm
[11:10] <dlapree> what type of command
[11:10] <rhelic> Matt`: some version of DX is built into 2000, at least 7
[11:10] <rhelic> Matt`: I'm not sure if WinUpdate will deliver a new DX or not
[11:11] <jackal^> dlapree, whatever the script is for
[11:11] <dlapree> well i have the basic vesion of irc installed and i didn't add any scripts
[11:11] <dlapree> so what default scripts would i use?
[11:12] <dlapree> cause i don't use any that i know of
[11:12] <jackal^> where you got it from?
[11:12] <dlapree> mirc.com
[11:12] <dlapree> i think
[11:13] <jackal^> hm
[11:14] <jackal^> must be something from the popups
[11:15] <dlapree> ?
[11:22] <jackal^> duh
[11:22] <jackal^> dlapree, options, other, keys
[11:22] <jackal^> uncheck shift enables hotlinks
[11:36] * m3c0 ist away (Merk dir meinen Namen. Du wirst ihn die ganze Nacht schreien)
[11:42] <Guest-B> do you have many thoughts per minute?
[11:45] <Drowsines> hum
[11:46] <magicalex> help! I can't connect to the net using my linksys router; only directly c
[11:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[11:55] <_Pope> whats a quick way to test my GPS device?
[11:57] <JanErikM> You dont need to use it in your car, just switch it on and take a little w
[11:58] <_Pope> JanErikM: its for my laptop
[11:58] <humate> lol
[11:58] <_Pope> I can't get it to work with Street Atlas and I'm wondering if its the softwar
[11:59] <Lindy_> what make is it ?
[11:59] <Lindy_> my husband argues with ours
[11:59] <humate> they must ship it with some gps software
[12:00] <humate> i have 13 hard drives in my case and there is absolutely no room for any mor
[12:00] <humate> need to attach another 8
[12:01] <humate> suppose i will have to build another box and use it as network attached stor
[12:01] <_Pope> NMEA-0183 GPS receiver
[12:01] <humate> what make is the laptop?
[12:02] <_Pope> Thinkpad
[12:02] <_Pope> I want to test it with other software
[12:16] <_Pope> says netstumbler can be used for GPS
[12:16] <_Pope> but from what google says its a security tool
[12:17] <Nilisco> it plots wireless access points on a map using a gps, nothing more
[12:17] <_Pope> ok
[12:18] <_Pope> I only see wifi stuff here
[12:23] <Kor> that's what netstumber is
[12:23] <Kor> it scans for wifi signals
[12:23] <Kor> and gives you info on them
[12:24] <_Pope> says it works for GPS too
[12:24] <Kor> it can use GPS info to plot the location of the wifi signals, like Nilisco said
[12:25] <Kor> it's commonly used for war driving
[12:25] <Kor> where you bring a laptop and look for open wireless networks
[12:25] <_Pope> hmm
[12:25] <_Pope> well it got the coordinates
[12:25] <_Pope> says I'm in asia
[12:26] <_Pope> this is frustrating
[12:27] <Kor> I take it you aren't in asia then?
[12:27] <_Pope> nope the U.S.
[12:27] <Kor> I can see how that would be a problem
[12:27] <pixil> Anyone in here use avisynth and knows of a good filter to reduce red channel
[12:28] <Lindy_> war driving ?
[12:28] <pixil> I think they call it color bleeding
[12:28] <Bucketman> Kor: and thats best not talked about in here.
[12:28] <pixil> I've found some crap in google, but I can't find a specific filter to reduce
[12:28] <Bucketman> yes Lindy_
[12:28] <_Pope> :
[12:28] <_Pope> :/
[12:28] <_Pope> so uhm
[12:28] <Lindy_> wtf is that ?
[12:28] <Kor> that was all I was going to say about it
[12:28] <_Pope> whats a free GPS software I can test this with
[12:28] <Bucketman> Lindy_: look it up
[12:28] <NiugeS> anyone recommend a good labeling program for vista???? thanks...
[12:28] <Lindy_> I am.
[12:28] <pixil> Lindy_: You drive around with a laptop, finding unsecured wireless signals...
[12:29] <pixil> NiugeS: For labelling what?
[12:29] <NiugeS> labeling dvds .... sorry.. hehe
[12:30] <Kor> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_driving
[12:31] <_Pope> I know what it is
[12:31] <_Pope> I'm just trying to get this GPS working
[12:32] <Jeaton> here's a stupid question, is it legal to use unsecured wireless signals?
[12:32] <_Pope> in some places its not
[12:32] <Memphetic> absolutely
[12:32] <Memphetic> because they are dumb enough to leave them unsecure.
[12:33] <_Pope> Memphetic is looking to get arrested
[12:33] <_Pope> keep thinking that
[12:33] <maherarar> An action being justifiable does not actually equate to legality.
[12:33] <Memphetic> and therefor, dumb enough to not know how to check who is using their rou
[12:33] <Bucketman> it all has to do with intent.
[12:34] <Jeaton> of course, im sure you wouldn't get into much trouble if you got caught doin
[12:35] <Jeaton> i just didnt know if an unsecure connection make it a public hotspot
[12:35] <Jeaton> makes*
[12:38] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[12:47] <Kasino> hi im wondering if anyone can help me with rtgen, for generating rainbow tab
[12:47] <vicky17> nop
[12:48] <Kasino> im trying to figure out how to create an a-z 1-0 NT rainbow table with rtgen
[12:48] <Kasino> i dunno how to name it properly to go with the other tables
[12:52] <ASk> that's out of the scope of this channel
[12:52] <ASk> please leave
[12:53] <Kasino> pff
[12:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[12:55] <Fiery> Hey, I dunno what to do, I'm having problems accessing a specific website fro
[12:55] <Fiery> The problem started like a week ago, nothing was changed.
[12:55] <koolkid19> How do I download videos from videopimp?
[12:55] <Fiery> I Just cleared out all my router settings and everything, and still the same
[12:56] <DigitalUn> clear out your internet explorer temp files
[12:56] <Fiery> Tried that, still nothing.
[12:56] <DigitalUn> try it with another browser?
[12:56] <Fiery> Part of the site loads, just extremely slow
[12:57] <Fiery> Yeah, tried IE and Avant.
[12:57] <DigitalUn> same thing?
[12:57] <Fiery> IE it doesn't load at all.
[12:57] <DigitalUn> do you have sometype of caching
[12:57] <DigitalUn> like a proxy server
[12:57] <DigitalUn> that your connecting to
[12:57] <Fiery> Don't think so
[12:58] <DigitalUn> if you really need to get to the site just go through a web anonymous pro
[12:58] <Fiery> Hmm, lemme check that out
[12:58] <Fiery> Honestly, I dont' need to, my girlfriend is bitching that she can't get to it
[12:58] <Class316x> I"m trying to install some updates on vista and getting error code 80070
[12:59] <belter> if you tried two diffrent web browsers and have the same issue, chances are
[12:59] <DigitalUn> that is true too
[12:59] <Fiery> My internet is 15mbit down 5mbit up
[12:59] <DigitalUn> thats a biz class internet
[12:59] <belter> then it's the site you going to
[13:00] <Nilisco> Class316x, do you have office installed?
[13:00] <belter> or maybe you have something using all your bandwith
[13:00] <belter> or somebody is stealing it
[13:00] <DigitalUn> lol
[13:00] <Fiery> lol
[13:00] <Fiery> Everything else works perfectly fine as of now.
[13:00] <DigitalUn> I highly doubt that its a bandwidth problem...
[13:00] <Fiery> Me too
[13:00] <DigitalUn> unless your pir8ting the world
[13:00] <DigitalUn> or have gaming going on
[13:00] <belter> torrent seeds
[13:01] <Fiery> I'd like to think my inet is secure, and not downloading anything.
[13:01] <Class316x> Nilisco: Yes
[13:01] <Nilisco> Fiery, mind sharing what website?
[13:01] <Fiery> http://www.cyworld.com/hoperhee80
[13:01] <Nilisco> Class316x, then I'd say it'd be worth it to follow the directions posted un
[13:01] <Fiery> It's a korean site.
[13:01] <DigitalUn> think is the keyword
[13:01] <Class316x> Nilisco: I did
[13:01] <Nilisco> hmm
[13:01] <Class316x> windows defender update went thru fine
[13:01] <Fiery> I just reset the router and changed keys
[13:02] <Class316x> but this update did not
[13:02] <Fiery> Same problem.
[13:02] <Class316x> maybe I should restart
[13:02] <Nilisco> definitely a good idea
[13:03] <Fiery> Any luck?
[13:06] <boredppl> Antraxus ! Finaly my Laptop CD Drive is finaly Dead Because i find nothing
[13:08] <freshBRAI> hey just a general question regarding video cards. how does the clock spe
[13:11] <killer> register how ?
[13:11] <killer> monkeys ?
[13:11] <Nightwork> killer, no registration on efnet.
[13:11] <boredppl> It is possible to Ressurect a CD/DVD Laptop kill Drive ?
[13:12] <killer> fuck u ..
[13:12] <freshBRAI> boredppl - what do you mean?
[13:12] <freshBRAI> hey just a general question regarding video cards. how does the clock spe
[13:12] <killer> thnx
[13:12] <Lindy_> DAMN IT!
[13:14] <boredppl> i mean i try to flash and EEPROM my Laptop drive and now my Drive is kill
[13:15] <boredppl> i want to do something to repair it ! ..but i dont know what ! Humm..
[13:18] <Jumpie> heh
[13:18] <Jumpie> hi ilinday
[13:18] <Jumpie> lindy too
[13:19] <boredppl> well last min ago i try to open my Laptop to see where is my Drive..but my
[13:20] <Nilisco> boredppl, you'll probably have to send it in for a repair or buy a new driv
[13:22] <Class316x> I don't get it. I can install windows defender updates, but it fails when
[13:23] <Kalagaraz> If your on salary do you not get overtime pay?
[13:25] <Nightwork> Kalagaraz, I never have.
[13:25] <Nightwork> Kalagaraz, kinda sucks.
[13:25] <Kalagaraz> The kentucky law I'm reading kinda sounds like your suppose to, but not 1
[13:25] <Kalagaraz> kinda worded weird
[13:26] <Nightwork> Yeah.
[13:26] <Class316x> I don't get it. I can install windows defender updates on Vista, but it f
[13:26] <Jumpie> i hate vista
[13:27] <Class316x> hm....I just successfully installed a useless windows mail junk filter up
[13:28] <Class316x> so why do some updates work but others fail?
[13:28] <Kalagaraz> It's lame that programmers are not required overtime pay
[13:28] <Kalagaraz> I don't find that fair at all
[13:31] <Lindy_> CANADA WINS GOLD!
[13:35] <Jumpie> hey guys
[13:35] <Jumpie> whast the better way to do pork chops?
[13:35] <Jumpie> i honestly cook alot and have never done chops
[13:36] <Jumpie> better to kinda fry in butter in pan? or broil?
[13:36] <DigitalUn> use PAM
[13:36] <DigitalUn> not butter
[13:36] <DigitalUn> =P
[13:44] <maherarar> No, Jumpie, are you still here?
[13:45] <Jumpie> im here
[13:45] <Jumpie> i was just wondering if i should do it pan
[13:45] <Jumpie> or broil in oven
[13:45] <Jumpie> its been marinating for liek 4 hours
[13:45] <maherarar> Oh, I see. My recipe wouldn't be applicable. And my oven has been broke
[13:47] <Kasino> im scripting a batch file to run automatic diretory listing
[13:47] <Kasino> and how do i make the program fine the local directory
[13:47] <maherarar> Anyway, I cook the pork on top of the veggies so the veggies get cooked i
[13:47] <Kasino> say i have test.exe on a usb drive
[13:47] <maherarar> vbasic?
[13:48] <Jumpie> oh that could work maherarar
[13:48] <Kasino> and i have a batch file to run test.exe and then put the output into that sa
[13:48] <Jumpie> im just doing potatoes tho
[13:48] <Kasino> how do i let it know the dir
[13:48] <Kasino> because whenever the usb drive is put it, the drive letter changes
[13:48] <Kasino> so i cant put a full path
[13:48] <maherarar> CurDir
[13:48] <Kasino> is that a batch command?
[13:48] <Al_lee> whats a good freeware program for watching dvd movies?
[13:49] <Kasino> WMP
[13:49] <Metshrine> kmplayer
[13:49] <Al_lee> no not that crap
[13:49] <Metshrine> or gom player
[13:49] <maherarar> Oh, sorry. People use batchfiles?
[13:49] <Kasino> heh i do
[13:49] <maherarar> In 2008?
[13:49] <Kasino> i like them, simple
[13:49] <Al_lee> something preferably that can read a bad disc and play it without reading th
[13:49] <Metshrine> I use batch files all the time
[13:49] <Kasino> im no real coder anyways
[13:49] <Kasino> metshrine, can you help me then
[13:50] <Metshrine> let me see
[13:50] <Lindy_> GO CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:51] <Metshrine> set it to run ..\test.exe
[13:51] <Metshrine> that runs the file at the root of the folder structure
[13:51] <Metshrine> ..\test.exe == c:\test.exe or d:\test.exe e:\test.exe
[13:51] <Metshrine> etc
[13:51] <Kasino> cant find it
[13:51] <Kasino> it says
[13:52] <Kasino> ahh got one part
[13:52] <Kasino> Metshrine
[13:52] <Kasino> now i gotta get complicated
[13:52] <Kasino> so say i have it save to output.txt
[13:53] <Kasino> how do i make it, so every time it runs, it saves, output1.txt, output2.txt
[13:53] <Metshrine> ..\test.exe > file.txt
[13:53] <Metshrine> oh
[13:53] <Metshrine> incrimental?
[13:53] <Kasino> yea
[13:53] <Metshrine> dont think you can do that without some sort of scripting tool
[13:53] <Metshrine> like AHK
[13:53] <Kasino> k
[13:53] <Metshrine> autohotkey
[13:53] <Kasino> can i have it add on
[13:53] <Metshrine> look up that
[13:53] <Metshrine> it works really well
[13:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[13:54] <Kasino> with just regular batch can i have it add on to the txt
[13:54] <Kasino> and maybe add a line inbetween
[13:54] <Kasino> as long as i can distinguish the changes between each output and see the dif
[13:54] <Metshrine> hmmm
[13:55] <Metshrine> echo
[13:55] <Metshrine> echo
[13:55] <Metshrine> crap
[13:55] <Metshrine> type in this
[13:55] <Metshrine> echo SPACE ALT+013 > output.txt
[13:55] * RockerMON is now known as Rm92
[13:55] <Metshrine> that echos a carriage return to output.txt
[13:56] <Kasino> it echos "space alt..."
[13:56] <Metshrine> dont type in SPACE
[13:56] <Metshrine> thats just a placeholder
[13:56] <Kasino> o
[13:56] <Kasino> alt+013 tho?
[13:56] <Metshrine> hold the ALT key and type 013
[13:56] <Kasino> actually cant i just put > output.txt
[13:56] <Metshrine> that is the code for carriage return
[13:57] <Metshrine> ALT Key + 013
[13:57] <Kasino> what does that do
[13:57] <Kasino> dont understand
[13:57] <Kasino> but i got it working with just > output
[13:57] <aloxa> help
[13:57] <Metshrine> it sends a blank line to the text file
[13:57] <aloxa> i am boring what you suggest me to do?
[13:58] <Metshrine> ALT+013 == carriage return
[13:58] <Metshrine> so by echoing it to the file
[13:58] <Metshrine> you enter a blank line into it
[13:58] <Kasino> dunno what that means
[13:58] <Kasino> the carriage return
[13:58] <maherarar> Have you read any Bellow, aloxa?
[13:58] <Jumpie> it means 'next line' pressing enter
[13:58] <aloxa> bellow means?
[13:58] <Jumpie> there is a code for that
[13:59] <Kasino> alt 013 wont put in a character or symbol
[13:59] <aloxa> ??
[13:59] <aloxa> i am boring what you suggest me to do?
[13:59] <Kasino> you're an idiot too
[13:59] <Kasino> :x
[14:00] <aloxa> i am boring what you suggest me to do?
[14:00] <Kasino> can someone kick him
[14:00] <aloxa> :/
[14:00] <aloxa> lol
[14:00] <DigitalUn> whois aloxa
[14:00] <DigitalUn> hehe =)
[14:00] <Metshrine> kasino: the ALT+013 will send a carriage return to the file
[14:00] <Kasino> metshrine i dont think that alt+013 will work
[14:01] <Metshrine> it should
[14:01] <Kasino> its not entering anything when i put it in
[14:01] <Kasino> maybe an appending kinda thing
[14:01] <DigitalUn> Im a troll I live underneath a bridge and everything ..
[14:02] <Kasino> k i typed it in, it doesnt work
[14:02] <Jumpie> wow im watchin a black sabbath video of warpigs in 1971
[14:02] <Jumpie> what in the hell were those guys on
[14:02] <Jumpie> lol
[14:03] <Kasino> lsd
[14:03] <Kasino> or prolly heroin
[14:03] <DigitalUn> pcp
[14:03] <DigitalUn> Ex?
[14:04] <Kasino> shit, i dunno
[14:04] <Kasino> maybe some kind of add a line after
[14:04] <Kasino> like > output.txt
[14:04] <Kasino> > output.txt --------
[14:04] <Rm92> Kasino: Metshrine told you how to put a line after it, alt+013
[14:04] <Kasino> just a command afterwards that writes a line at the bottom of the file outpu
[14:04] <Kasino> i did that, but i said it was not working
[14:05] <Kasino> i put alt+013 into the batch file and it did not work
[14:05] <Rm92> try adding \n after the string? *random guess*
[14:05] <Rm92> oh wait
[14:05] <Metshrine> hmmm
[14:05] <Metshrine> this is tough
[14:05] <Rm92> Kasino: does that append text to the file or overwrite it?
[14:05] <Metshrine> i am working on it casino
[14:05] <Kasino> i dunno i want it to append
[14:05] <Kasino> not overwrite... it must be overwriting :\
[14:05] <Jumpie> they look like they keep lookin at heaven
[14:05] <Kasino> lol thanks metshrine
[14:05] <Rm92> if it appends text to it, just do echo. > file afterwards and it should add
[14:05] <Jumpie> and videos back in the 70s were lame
[14:06] <Rm92> Jumpie: so dont watch them?
[14:06] <Metshrine> ok
[14:06] <Metshrine> to append to the file
[14:06] <Metshrine> do this
[14:06] <Jumpie> its interesting becasuse like the song
[14:06] <Metshrine> echo NEW ENTRY >> c:\test.txt
[14:06] <Metshrine> the >> operator appends
[14:06] <Metshrine> > just overwrites
[14:06] <Metshrine> so
[14:06] <Metshrine> echo .
[14:06] <Metshrine> echo .
[14:06] <Metshrine> echo NEW ENTRY
[14:06] <Metshrine> echo .
[14:06] <Metshrine> echo .
[14:07] <Metshrine> just add >> c:\test.txt to the end of that
[14:07] <Metshrine> and be sure when you echo the test.exe file to the txt file, to use the &
[14:07] <Kasino> awesome!
[14:07] <Kasino> just some tweaking needed now :P
[14:07] <Metshrine> :)
[14:07] <Metshrine> use this site for future reference
[14:07] <Metshrine> http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/DOS/Bat-Adv.html
[14:08] <Metshrine> great source for dos batch scripting
[14:08] <Kasino> hm wait
[14:08] <Kasino> the echo isnt adding in that text to the file :\
[14:08] <DigitalUn> batch scripts ahh sooo old school
[14:09] <DigitalUn> i remember writing scripts like that in qbasic
[14:09] <Metshrine> what text?
[14:09] <DigitalUn> back in 5th grade
[14:09] <Kasino> new entry
[14:09] <Metshrine> oh
[14:09] <Metshrine> do echo NEW ENTRY >> c:\output.txt
[14:09] <Metshrine> echo NEW ENTRY >> c:\output.txt
[14:09] <Kasino> i dont need the echo right
[14:09] <Metshrine> yes
[14:09] <Metshrine> you need the echo
[14:10] <Metshrine> echo is a dos command to send text to the file
[14:10] <Metshrine> or echo to the standard output device
[14:10] <Metshrine> STDOUT
[14:10] <Metshrine> which defaults to the screen
[14:10] <Kasino> whoops, you had the c:\ there
[14:10] <Metshrine> you can also add @echo off to the top of the file to remove all of those
[14:10] <Metshrine> yeah
[14:10] <Metshrine> i did :)
[14:10] <Kasino> made me think it wasnt working
[14:10] <Metshrine> heh
[14:10] <Kasino> noooow its working
[14:11] <Metshrine> :-D
[14:11] <Metshrine> enjoy man :)
[14:11] <Kasino> ty
[14:12] <JenniferA> anyone here good with video editing?
[14:14] <DigitalUn> what type of video editing jennifer?
[14:15] <boyewq> how do i get the hibernate option when i go to turn off win xp on my laptop?
[14:15] <_Pope> in MS Streets & Trips how can I center on my location using GPS
[14:15] <jackal^> boyewq, control panel, power options
[14:15] <DigitalUn> its underneath the power options boyewq
[14:15] * Fire_Star is now known as Star_Fire
[14:16] <DigitalUn> google it =P
[14:16] <boyewq> got it thank you
[14:16] <jackal^> welcome
[14:16] <DigitalUn> np
[14:18] <_Pope> I need to find out if my GPS is working
[14:19] <DigitalUn> look underneath control panel and device hardware
[14:19] <DigitalUn> it will tell you if the gps is working properly
[14:19] <DigitalUn> from there you can go figure out if is a conflict in the program
[14:20] <_Pope> I have it installed correctly what I want to do is determine my location
[14:20] <an> main screen turn on
[14:21] <DigitalUn> I dont have the program so I can not help ya
[14:21] <DigitalUn> read the instructions...
[14:22] * sdfasd is now known as cmhm
[14:23] <cmhm> where would i go to find out what is the minimum required CPU in order to see
[14:24] <DigitalUn> wow
[14:24] <DigitalUn> google it?
[14:25] <_Pope> that's all you have to contribute DigitalUn
[14:25] <_Pope> "google it"
[14:25] <_Pope> you may as well not be here
[14:25] <_Pope> useless
[14:25] <cmhm> yea i thought this was #help for a reason
[14:26] <DigitalUn> =P
[14:26] <cmhm> ?
[14:26] <DigitalUn> google is a very valiable resource
[14:26] <DigitalUn> you should google it first
[14:26] <cmhm> before google i -always- came in here
[14:26] <DigitalUn> then ask for help ..
[14:26] <DigitalUn> that doesn't make logical sense
[14:27] <perverted> why doesnt it make logical sense? he is trying to get an answer and this
[14:28] <DigitalUn> it just doesn't seem logical to ask a question first here when the resour
[14:28] <DigitalUn> database like google
[14:28] <_Pope> well a wise man once said
[14:29] <_Pope> it is better to remain silent and thought a fool then to open one's mouth and
[14:29] <_Pope> DigitalUn: if you don't know something just don't say anything
[14:29] <DigitalUn> lol very true
[14:29] <_Pope> since you're not "help"ing
[14:29] <JenniferA> anyone here good with video editing?
[14:29] <JenniferA> well i have this video and its playing music in the background
[14:29] <JenniferA> i want to mute that audio
[14:29] <Jeaton> i do agree he should have googled it first, go the automated route before wa
[14:29] <_Pope> JenniferA: you can demux it
[14:29] <JenniferA> and replace it with a mp3 song i have
[14:30] <Jeaton> but then again, that is why many hang out here
[14:30] <JenniferA> Pope how do i demux it?
[14:30] <JenniferA> i used windows movie maker and that didnt work
[14:30] <jackal^> JenniferA, try virtual dub maybe
[14:31] <goobydude> hello all
[14:31] <Jeaton> hello goobydude
[14:31] <DigitalUn> hello
[14:32] <goobydude> im curious, does anyone know if there are any intel and amd processors th
[14:32] <perverted> they do not
[14:32] <goobydude> ok, is there a motherboard that will support both?
[14:33] <perverted> probably not but im not sure
[14:33] <goobydude> thanks
[14:34] <IamKing> goobydude: no, there is not
[14:34] <TheUni> no, completely different chipsets are required
[14:34] <TheUni> bah
[14:34] <DigitalUn> there are hybrid boards
[14:34] <goobydude> are there?
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[14:44] * Topic is 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Homework/Drama
[14:44] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Sat Jan 05 13:53:47
[14:44] <easy4me> but i forget
[14:45] <easy4me> my password
[14:45] <easy4me> so should i register
[14:45] <easy4me> tahts the problem
[14:45] <copeland> you should take this up with mirc
[14:45] <jackal^> easy4me, chat.efnet.org
[14:45] <jackal^> use web based IRC client instead
[14:45] <DigitalUn> you should contat mirc
[14:45] * _drewbunt is now known as drewbuntu
[14:46] <easy4me> ohh
[14:46] <easy4me> i dont like this full rounds
[14:46] <goobydude> easy4me: go here ->http://ircatwork.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi
[14:46] * __LiQUiD_ is now known as _LiQUiD_X
[14:46] <easy4me> oki i will do wait
[14:47] <deva> What's the maximum length passwords may be in PAM-supporting operating systems
[14:47] <deva> (Examples: GNU/Linux, the BSD family, the Solaris family, etc.)
[14:48] <JenniferA> hey
[14:48] <JenniferA> to the person helping me that said convert it to avi
[14:48] <JenniferA> i just renamed it to avi
[14:48] <DigitalUn> that woul be jackal^
[14:48] <JenniferA> is that what you meant?
[14:48] <MrMeth> haha
[14:48] <jackal^> no
[14:48] <DigitalUn> no you have to convert it
[14:48] <goobydude> dont rename
[14:49] <JenniferA> oh, how do i convert it?
[14:49] <DigitalUn> go download a conversion program... from format * to avi
[14:50] <goobydude> what file type is it?
[14:50] <JenniferA> well when i downloaded it, it didnt have a file type
[14:50] <JenniferA> it was just blank
[14:50] <fedex> any good channels to download tv episodes?
[14:50] <jackal^> i assume its flv
[14:50] <JenniferA> so then i renamed it to avi
[14:50] <JenniferA> yeah
[14:51] <goobydude> where did you get it?
[14:51] <DigitalUn> if she got it off youtube
[14:51] <goobydude> oh
[14:51] <goobydude> its flv
[14:51] <JenniferA> yeah i got it off youtube
[14:51] <jackal^> JenniferA, get riva encoder
[14:51] <Bucketman> fedex: read the topic
[14:51] <JenniferA> ok
[14:51] <fedex> Bucketman: yeah, and?
[14:51] * phisher1_ is now known as phisher1
[14:51] <jackal^> fedex, and follow it
[14:51] <DigitalUn> =P
[14:51] <fedex> Bucketman: you think downloading tv episodes is illegal? because its not.
[14:51] <IamKing^> goobydude: here's a good article to start with ---> http://www.anand
[14:52] * _Ghostwol is now known as Ghostwolf
[14:52] <IamKing^> goobydude: because you will need to decide if you wish to go with dual co
[14:52] <goobydude> thanks iamking^, def will check it out
[14:52] <goobydude> quad cores are expensive
[14:53] <perverted> not really
[14:53] * IamKing^ is now known as IamKing
[14:53] <goobydude> no?
[14:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[14:53] <perverted> theyre average
[14:53] <jackal^> JenniferA, there are also programs/sites that will download and convert the
[14:54] <perverted> amd is the cheaper quad core solution, but i doubt theyre as good as the
[14:54] <perverted> $250-300 for a quad core
[14:54] <IamKing> goobydude: as the article I pasted has said, you can choose between a 3.0
[14:55] <[EckI]> http://meine-ex.2.ag/?uid=11091
[14:55] <IamKing> back then in August 2007, they were both $266
[14:55] <easy4me> goodbyduse talk by essay4 me
[14:55] <easy4me> ??
[14:56] <cyberfr0g> [EckI]: http://puremayhem.com/myex/
[14:56] <perverted> if it was me, id get the intel 2.4ghz quad core and id make sure i get th
[14:57] <goobydude> hmmm....
[14:57] <easy4me> doobydude talk to me
[14:57] <easy4me> man
[14:57] <easy4me> with easy4 me
[14:57] <easy4me> in another page
[14:58] <goobydude> use your brain, its really not that hard to figure out...
[14:59] <easy4me> ya talk there man :D
[14:59] <jackal^> easy4me, if you have question, ask it in the channel :)
[15:01] <perverted> wow the new quad core has 12mb cache
[15:01] <easy4me> how can i do this
[15:03] <easy4me> ??
[15:03] <jackal^> do what
[15:03] <easy4me> ask goobydude he know
[15:03] <goobydude> 12mb cache is amazing
[15:04] <jackal^> you are the one with question not goobydude
[15:05] <goobydude> easy4me, acting like this will usually get you kicked from a channel, jus
[15:05] <goobydude> ah, he left on his own
[15:07] <goobydude> thanks for the help on the cpu talk
[15:07] <goobydude> see ya
[15:07] <deva> in C, char * const *list means declare list as pointer to const pointer to cha
[15:08] <deva> so list points to something which will forever point to one thing which is a c
[15:15] <TwisTbanG> Hi
[15:27] <slacker_> -irc.Prison.NET- *** Banned AUTO-CHAN (2008/1/4 19.35) <-what's
[15:29] <jackal^> ask prison oper ;)
[15:29] <slacker_> know of any?
[15:30] <jackal^> /stats p irc.prison.net
[15:31] <slacker_> oh cool you can pass a server as another parm
[15:32] <slacker_> thanks
[15:32] <jackal^> np
[15:38] <blanto> how the hell does youtube make money with very minimal ads on their site?
[15:40] <menzzo> the sheer volume of visitors
[15:41] <menzzo> people probably pay a lot more to get an ad on there too
[15:42] <blanto> their bandwidth alone must be very costly though
[15:42] <menzzo> i think they have something to do with paypal too
[15:42] <menzzo> i'm not sure
[15:42] <blanto> ebay owns paypal?
[15:43] <menzzo> they do now
[15:43] <menzzo> but once upon a time...
[15:43] <menzzo> if ebay buy payal and the youtube guys were involved, then they too would ha
[15:44] <menzzo> i'd have to google/wiki something up to be sure though but i remember talkin
[15:47] <fuoriuso> CIAO A TUTTI VOI
[15:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[15:55] * Efreeti is now known as Ifrit
[16:05] * n00b836 is now known as ojfoiejro
[16:12] * qwer3 is now known as blanto
[16:17] <dave_> anyone here very familiar with laws? I'm working for a company that I found
[16:19] <dave_> I managed to find the public court record online, and the manager of the comp
[16:20] <IamKing> dave_: what part of "NO Law" did you not get in the /topic ?
[16:20] <dave_> do me a favor and shut the fuck up
[16:20] <dave_> I dont give a shit about the topic
[16:20] * kiss161|s is now known as kiss161
[16:20] <IamKing> dave_: then you will be forced to stfu ;)
[16:35] <deva> wait, when was "NO Law" added in?
[16:35] <deva> and why?
[16:36] <deva> can't you at least discuss and provide a disclaimer like "I'm not a lawyer. My
[16:36] <deva> or it did it cause too many problems in the past?
[16:38] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[16:53] <Phiber0pt> deva does their really need to be a disclaimer, it's IRC.. rofl..
[16:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[16:54] <floatsaka> is there such a thing as a 'disclaimee'?
[16:54] <floatsaka> probably. i withdraw the question
[17:07] <Obsidieth> im having some weird firefox problems
[17:08] <Obsidieth> like images from previous pages (ie youtube) appearing when i go to googl
[17:09] <______> anyone know of a dvd backup program that is freeware?
[17:10] <VitaminB> umm
[17:10] <______> for windows
[17:10] <VitaminB> wasnt there one named 123 or something
[17:11] <blanto> 123fbf
[17:11] <blanto> dvd
[17:11] <VitaminB> was were some of the early DVD archving programs
[17:11] <VitaminB> there was one calles <something>123
[17:11] <blanto> imgburn, dvdshrink
[17:11] <blanto> 123dvd
[17:11] <VitaminB> yeah DVD Shrink or its predecessor
[17:12] <blanto> sup VitaminB you crackhead
[17:12] <VitaminB> oh aye man
[17:12] <VitaminB> not much
[17:12] <VitaminB> wacthing freetv
[17:12] <VitaminB> and bored off gord
[17:12] <blanto> from where?
[17:12] <blanto> you not stoned?
[17:12] <preventio> how would i go about accessing an old 286 hard drive through a windows 98
[17:12] <preventio> the cables are diff
[17:12] <VitaminB> oh yeah i smoked some earlier
[17:12] <______> thanks!
[17:12] <blanto> preventio: HD enclosure
[17:13] <VitaminB> or was it dvd123
[17:13] <blanto> there's 123 copy dvd and there's 123 dvd ripper
[17:13] <VitaminB> wasn;t it named something before DVD Shrink
[17:14] <blanto> not sure
[17:14] <VitaminB> anyway how r you
[17:14] <VitaminB> where you stay at
[17:14] <VitaminB> fewl
[17:14] <VitaminB> blunto
[17:15] <VitaminB> wjatchu know about them cigarellos
[17:15] <VitaminB> or you like yours plain?
[17:16] <VitaminB> blanto you got any crack
[17:16] <MChlax> I'm trying to convert my 500GB drive to FAT32 in a single partition. I know
[17:16] <MChlax> Since something like 1-2TB is hte max, any idea how i would do this?
[17:16] <MChlax> Partition magic only supports about 166GB
[17:19] <VitaminB> uh oh
[17:19] <VitaminB> trouble brewing
[17:20] <preventio> blanto: whats that
[17:20] * crptx is now known as Tom_Brady
[17:20] <VitaminB> ouuu ouh ouu ouhh ouuu ouhhh wah wah wahhh *good back and ugly*
[17:20] <preventio> i'm looking it up on google it says nothing about a hd enclosure to read
[17:20] * Tom_Brady is now known as crptx
[17:21] <Osc> MChlax: this is a drive you boot from?
[17:23] <Osc> preventio: whats the model number for that drive?
[17:23] <MChlax> Osc, no this is an external drive
[17:24] <Osc> MChlax: then, via my computer, rclick it, format
[17:25] <Osc> you won't gett but 32 gigs tho
[17:25] <|Jason8|> Hey all.
[17:25] <Osc> and as 32 gigs is bigger than your dvd, you should be fine
[17:26] <MChlax> Osc, right that's the problem, I'm using it to hold my entire movie collecti
[17:26] <|Jason8|> I have an Acer 17" LCD monitor and it's starting to "ghost."
[17:26] <|Jason8|> Is there a way to calibrate the monitor or fix it?
[17:27] <rhelic> |Jason8| you mean it looks like the screen is burnt?
[17:27] <rhelic> an image's shadow stuck on the monitor?
[17:27] <|Jason8|> rhelic, no, not at all.
[17:27] <rhelic> please explain exactly what you mean by ghosting
[17:27] <MChlax> Osc, i was told Linux is capable of formatting very large > 196GB (partit
[17:27] <MChlax> do you know if there are bootable disks that will let me do something like t
[17:27] <bizman> Does anyone know how to put txt in a form-text field but when you click insi
[17:27] <|Jason8|> On a black background, for example, whereever I move the mouse cursor, the
[17:28] <MrMeth> when you do a search in google and type 2 words, it brings up pages that hav
[17:28] <|Jason8|> It's almost like a gradient going from the pointer to nothing.
[17:28] <MChlax> bizman, u mean programming that? on a mouseclick event just set text to ''
[17:29] <bizman> MChalx: Like a username field: i want it to say "enter username here" but wh
[17:29] <MChlax> what language are you using
[17:29] <blanto> <input type=text value="sometexthere" ...
[17:29] <bizman> html
[17:29] <|Jason8|> hmm.
[17:29] <bizman> i can use javascript if i have to
[17:29] <MChlax> yeah as blanto said:
[17:29] <MChlax> <input type=text value="Enter username" onclick="this.text = ''" />
[17:30] <|Jason8|> bizman, use javascript and a mouseclick event.
[17:30] <bizman> yes but if i do what he said when you click into the field the txt stays the
[17:30] <MChlax> ** this.value
[17:30] <|Jason8|> yeah
[17:30] <MChlax> <input type=text value="Enter username" onclick="this.value = ''" />
[17:30] <MChlax> use that
[17:30] <bizman> okay
[17:30] <bizman> just like that?
[17:30] <MChlax> yea
[17:30] <bizman> thankyou
[17:30] <MChlax> np
[17:31] <bizman> this.value = does value equal the name of the text field correct? (sorry pro
[17:31] <Osc> MChlax: try this link http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.ht
[17:31] <bizman> nm
[17:31] <bizman> got it
[17:31] <bizman> lol, thinking to hard.
[17:31] <MChlax> thanks Osc
[17:32] <Osc> MrMeth: (this AND thatt)
[17:32] <MrMeth> thx :)
[17:32] <Osc> |Jason8|: try the monitor on a different computer
[17:32] <VitaminB> s
[17:33] <|Jason8|> Osc, okay.
[17:33] <rhelic> bizinichi: .NET/Java ... yes that's the value of the object, in a textbox, t
[17:33] <MChlax> Osc that worked FI#*@@ perfectly, thanks again :)
[17:33] <Osc> |Jason8|: I doubt it will still do that, therefore this test will show if it's
[17:33] <rhelic> bizman: and simple objects have default accessors, so textbox without the
[17:34] <VitaminB> backk
[17:34] <VitaminB> whats the delee oh
[17:34] <Osc> VitaminB: we don't need to know when you are "back"
[17:35] <VitaminB> Osc=gordo?
[17:35] <Osc> Osc = channel operator
[17:35] <Osc> enforcer of the rules
[17:35] <VitaminB> ohh ohhkayyyy
[17:35] <|Jason8|> OSC, okay, thanks.
[17:35] <VitaminB> grin
[17:35] <rhelic> VitaminB: as the topic says, #helpchat for chat
[17:36] <Osc> indeed
[17:37] <VitaminB> ohh dahyammm
[17:37] <VitaminB> my badilicious
[17:37] <rhelic> dude, you really don't get it do you?
[17:37] <Osc> retorical question
[17:37] <rhelic> (yes)
[17:37] <VitaminB> rhetorical
[17:37] <VitaminB> aha learn to spell before calling the floor
[17:38] <Osc> sorry, I don't need to spell properly to enforce the rules =]
[17:38] <VitaminB> oh how about the rule that you cant spell
[17:38] <Osc> aww
[17:39] <menzzo> cute
[17:43] <heheheeee> http://www.laura-du-schlampe.com/?c=757176af54
[17:43] <heheheeee> click plx
[17:44] <menzzo> :/
[17:44] <heheheeee> plieeehx
[17:44] <heheheeee> http://www.laura-du-schlampe.com/?c=757176af54
[17:44] <heheheeee> (=
[17:48] <preventio> osc: st-251 i guess?
[17:48] <preventio> seagate
[17:49] <preventio> wow according to ebay this is a collector's item now
[17:49] <preventio> its $140 on ebay
[17:50] <menzzo> keep it!
[17:50] <menzzo> sell it in 40 years
[17:50] <preventio> yeah i'm not trying to get rid of it, just trying to access it
[17:52] <preventio> osc you there
[17:52] <preventio> i actually have 3 or 4 of these drives
[17:52] <Osc> preventio: yeah. you won't be happy. scroll down to this part ' MFM and RLL' he
[17:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[17:54] <Osc> if you still have thatt 286, copy to floppy is your best hope
[17:54] <preventio> i'm reading about it, whats it say
[17:54] <Osc> they do a better job explaineing it
[17:55] <preventio> i'm reading but not understanding
[17:55] <preventio> is there no way to access this through anything relatively recent
[17:56] <preventio> twin cable , thats this i guess
[17:56] <preventio> although they are diff sizes
[17:56] <Osc> not at all. it's an rll or mfm
[17:57] <Osc> the important part:
[17:57] <Osc> The drive type (MFM or RLL) was solely determined by the low-level format, and
[17:57] <Osc> All modern drives use an embedded controller
[17:57] <preventio> whats that mean
[17:57] <Osc> no way to access the drive w/o a controler, and controlers are now built into t
[17:59] <preventio> well i still have the tower it was in
[17:59] <Osc> "The card we used to call a 'controller card' and plug into IDE-equipped 386 sy
[17:59] <MrMeth> anyone know any TV Tunner apps that use little to none system resources?
[17:59] <Osc> fire it up and have a bunch of floppies on hand
[17:59] <preventio> sheesh
[18:01] <Osc> it's prolly got a 5.25 drive. you can plug that into the other computer to read
[18:01] <MrMeth> I thought Tunner Cards had their own Proccessing chip... But this ATI Multim
[18:02] <preventio> well the hard drive i want to access i can't boot up now
[18:03] <preventio> i can't believe its that hard. i got on to my 486 hard drive no problem
[18:03] <preventio> isn't there some adapter cables
[18:04] <ShaK> hi i know how to load scripts in IRC.. (/load -rs name.mrc) .. but that is onl
[18:04] <Star_Fire> shak: put some directories infront of your file
[18:04] <Osc> no. it's not a cable thing. what is built into the drive from the one3 from the
[18:05] <MrMeth> holly: I havn't herd of anyone firing up a 286 in a loooong time
[18:07] <MrMeth> do the clocks still keep acurate date/time on them ? :)
[18:07] <Lindy_> why do your questions just get more and more stupid ?
[18:07] <MrMeth> well...
[18:07] <Star_Fire> mrmeth: if the cmos battery still has power, then yes
[18:08] <MrMeth> I had a Cyrix 133 an after Y2K the Clock messed up
[18:08] <preventio> some of the forums are suggesting a program called spinrite
[18:08] <Lindy_> Star-Fire dont feed him :)
[18:08] <Star_Fire> mrmeth: although I think it'd have a problem with the y2k
[18:08] <Star_Fire> lindy: ah. k
[18:08] <preventio> i guess i should put this back in the old 286 tower. except i forgot wher
[18:09] <floatsaka> they go into where the plugs go man
[18:09] <preventio> theres a bunch of diff sockets
[18:11] <preventio> this hard drive runs $315 on one website
[18:14] <preventio> more sane method is to connect up the power cable (not the data connector
[18:14] <preventio> >If this gets the drive spining, and it'll now spin up without violenc
[18:14] <floatsaka> man drive violence is the worst
[18:16] <preventio> what is it exactly
[18:18] <ayeyen> I fixed most of my router troubles, but now I can't access any website start
[18:18] <ayeyen> How can I fix that? Do I need to forward a port?
[18:21] <Life^> whats up :)
[18:21] <Life^> anyone here good w/ accounting :)
[18:21] <Osc> preventio: that isn't comething you need to worry about till you find out if yo
[18:22] * Night-w is now known as Nightwork
[18:22] <Osc> ayeyen: 443
[18:22] <preventio> If you're bored, swap motherboards. Heck, a few years ago for fun we swap
[18:23] <preventio> Osc: what do you mean
[18:23] <preventio> the problem is i can't access the drive. it says non system disk
[18:23] <ayeyen> Osc, thanks :)
[18:24] <Osc> preventio: can you access the drive? by this I mean have you put the system bac
[18:24] <preventio> no it doesn't go silent
[18:24] <preventio> i can't get into anything either
[18:24] <Osc> then it's not sticktion
[18:24] <preventio> itjust says non system disk
[18:24] <Osc> where did you gett these drives?
[18:25] <ayeyen> brb then
[18:25] <preventio> i have no idea, some rinky dink computer guy
[18:25] <preventio> he's probably long out of business
[18:25] <Osc> I hop you got it for free
[18:25] <preventio> these date back to 1989
[18:26] <preventio> no they weren't
[18:26] <Osc> how long ago did you get it?
[18:26] <preventio> 1989
[18:26] <Star_Fire> prev: maybe the drive just went bad
[18:26] <Osc> oh
[18:26] <preventio> yeah is there are way to recover data off it tho
[18:26] <Osc> back then it was current
[18:26] <preventio> the drive worked until 1994 or 95
[18:26] <Osc> the way I told you before
[18:26] <preventio> i'm just seeing if i can recover data off
[18:27] <Star_Fire> i've still got my 8086 and 80286 stashed away. haven't power them up in
[18:27] <preventio> well floppy is out because when i boot up it says non system disk
[18:27] <Osc> boot off a floppy
[18:27] <Osc> then read the disk
[18:27] <Osc> I have no idea what OS will work on a 286 tho
[18:28] <Star_Fire> Any DOS flavor should work
[18:28] <preventio> i don't even know if i have a bootable floppy
[18:28] <Osc> you can download dos 6.22
[18:28] <Lindy_> Osc or Star-Fire have you guys heard of sling box ?
[18:28] <Osc> boot disk, that is
[18:28] <Star_Fire> lindy: yup
[18:28] <Osc> Lindy_: yes, but I don't know anyting about it
[18:28] <preventio> cool
[18:28] <Lindy_> know
[18:29] <Lindy_> oh ;)
[18:29] <Lindy_> do you Star-Fire ?
[18:29] <Star_Fire> lindy: it let's you watch your TV over the internet
[18:29] <Lindy_> yeah
[18:29] <Lindy_> using wireless ?
[18:29] <Star_Fire> lindy: like if you have cable TV at home, but you're traveling to india,
[18:30] <preventio> are you sure dos 6.22 is the one i need
[18:30] <Lindy_> does it work on cable or statelite ?
[18:30] <Lindy_> or both ?
[18:30] <Star_Fire> lindy: you mean as input.... I'm not sure
[18:30] <Lindy_> yeah
[18:30] <preventio> i forget was os this was
[18:30] <Lindy_> I was thinking of getting it for the motor home.
[18:30] <preventio> it wasn't windows thats for sure
[18:30] <preventio> i remember it. it has three colors
[18:31] <preventio> had
[18:31] <Lindy_> our antennae will be out dated
[18:32] <Star_Fire> lindy: that'd be kool. =) you could get a USB hd tuner. I've got the
[18:32] <Star_Fire> hvr-950....
[18:32] <Lindy_> what does that do ?
[18:32] <Lindy_> oh for High defination ?
[18:32] <Star_Fire> lindy: lets you watch HDTV on a computer. it's a hybrid to it can recei
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:33] <Life^> lol
[18:33] <Lindy_> ahh ok
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!
[18:33] <SlickNutz> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!
[18:33] <Gregory_L> Why?
[18:33] <Gregory_L> What did you do, Lindy?
[18:34] <Life^> heh
[18:34] * Toyota is now known as Toy-Alex
[18:34] * Toy-Alex is now known as Toyota
[18:40] <MrMeth> $20 I know who that was
[18:43] <Lindy_> MrMeth to be honest
[18:43] <Lindy_> I DONT GIVE A SHIT!
[18:43] <Lindy_> they are in the time out chair
[18:43] <Lindy_> for about 12 hours
[18:44] <MrMeth> i been in taht corner a few times
[18:44] <Lindy_> yep
[18:45] <Lindy_> and if you keep pushing it
[18:47] <MrMeth> oppps... I have been (*) I forgot Phisher1 is making the new #help rule (Pr
[18:48] <Lindy_> that eliminates half the channel
[18:48] <ayeyen> Unfortunately, opening port 443 didn't help me, I still can't access https w
[18:49] <ayeyen> My setup at the moment is kind of screwy - I have one wireless router that c
[18:50] <Life^> wait what/
[18:50] <Life^> describe your network again (a bit more clearly)
[18:50] <floatsaka> if you only had a different machine to try https with you could rule out
[18:50] <Anthraxus> Hrmm
[18:50] <|Jason8|> MrMeth
[18:50] <|Jason8|> [08:47.52] <MrMeth> oppps... I have been (*) I forgot Phisher1 is m
[18:50] <|Jason8|> Is spelling a rule, also?
[18:50] <Anthraxus> 443, 587, 993
[18:50] <Anthraxus> spelling precisely is not required
[18:50] <preventio> what does it mean when a program says runtime error! applicatio nhas requ
[18:50] <Anthraxus> but accrurately
[18:50] <MrMeth> shhh
[18:51] <Anthraxus> DLL prob
[18:51] <Anthraxus> ?
[18:52] <ayeyen> I never needed to forward a port for https before...
[18:52] <preventio> ?
[18:52] <preventio> i don't know
[18:52] <Life^> ayeyen: Usually you only need to do it if you're trying to accept incoming c
[18:52] <Life^> but can you describe your network layout again?
[18:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[18:53] <ayeyen> Alright.
[18:55] <ayeyen> I have an SMC Barricade wireless-b router connected to the internet with PPP
[18:55] <ayeyen> . It works, except for https, and potentially ssl, I don't really know the d
[18:55] <yoyoyo> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:55] <yoyoyo> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:55] <yoyoyo> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:56] <yoyoyo> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:56] <yoyoyo> LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!LINDY IS A CUNT!!!!
[18:56] <jc`xl> anyone here
[18:56] <jc`xl> ?
[18:56] <mikelarry> no.
[18:57] <|Jason8|> Brilliant.
[18:57] <Life^> ayeyen: Also can you describe "don't work"
[18:58] <Life^> and why the double router setup?
[18:59] <ayeyen> Life^, both Firefox and IE hang forever when they're connecting on hotmail.
[18:59] <ayeyen> So I'm using the 802.11b one (the old one) as kind of a middle-man box, that
[18:59] <Life^> wait, your pppoe modem?
[18:59] <Life^> so you have a modem in tehre too?
[19:00] <ayeyen> yeah
[19:01] <Life^> right but usually you don't need to do pppoe to the modem :|
[19:01] <ayeyen> phone line - pppoe modem - 802.11b router - 802.11g router -wireless- laptop
[19:01] <Life^> the "modem" will usually do the pppoe for you and kick out just ethernet :|
[19:01] <ayeyen> nope, it's a really old one, you connect to it with pppoe
[19:01] <Life^> dude, that's *WAY* too many steps lol. I think you're over complicating this
[19:01] <Life^> dsl?
[19:02] <ayeyen> yeah
[19:02] <ayeyen> adsl, apparently.
[19:04] <ayeyen> Anyway the TRENTnet router is just a pain, and often won't connect using the
[19:04] <jc`xl> anyone know how i can configure an iphone with aol mail? what do i put in as
[19:04] <jc`xl> its been working befoer but it stopped
[19:07] <Life^> ayeyen: Well a couple things :|
[19:07] <ayeyen> It's a really weird pppoe modem, a speedstream somethingorother. It might ev
[19:07] <ayeyen> Okay?
[19:07] <Jeaton> hi
[19:07] <Life^> well that's not right
[19:07] <Jeaton> where do I download the lastest ps3 firmware on the net?
[19:07] <Life^> it doesn't necessairily need to "assign" an ip address. but that sounds more
[19:07] <Jeaton> i rather not do it from my PS3 as it takes fucking forever
[19:08] <ayeyen> Life^: Well, that's why I came in here :) for someone with more sense than m
[19:09] <mikelarry> wow 22 @'s
[19:09] <mikelarry> they just handle that out like candy apparently in here
[19:10] <Life^> lol 10% is not exactly a large amount? Do you have anything other than troll
[19:10] <Jeaton> eh, wrong channel
[19:10] * PyroTek_ is now known as PyroTek
[19:11] <Life^> ayeyen: Well that modem should be able to handle the authentication :|
[19:11] <Life^> Usually your isp sends those out so you can plug them into your computer
[19:11] <ayeyen> Well, I can't. My phone line is in the basement and my computer is usually i
[19:11] <Life^> some models can either kick out a public ip address, or an internal one with
[19:12] <Life^> you can't what? I haven't told you to do anything yet lol
[19:12] <ayeyen> This adsl modem runs no dhcp server of its own as far as i can tell
[19:12] <ayeyen> "I can't" was referring to "they're usually made to connect right into your
[19:12] <menzzo> do you need dhcp though?
[19:12] <menzzo> it can make port forwarding a pain sometimes
[19:12] <Life^> ayeyen : Right I understand that I'm just saying those modems should be able
[19:13] <ayeyen> This one really doesn't :P
[19:13] <Life^> Unless you've put it into bridging or messed with the config
[19:13] <ayeyen> There was another good reason I wasn't connecting with the TRENDnet router d
[19:13] <Life^> ayeyen: When the ISP set it up or shipped it, then what did they send?
[19:13] <ayeyen> When I did, the one time it worked, only about half the websites I tried to
[19:13] <ayeyen> I have no idea, I've had this modem for years.
[19:14] <Life^> heh, well when i say what did they send
[19:14] <Life^> they just spend the speedstream right?
[19:14] <Life^> they didn't send the speedstream *AND* another device?
[19:14] <IamKing> ayeyen: how old is this modem?
[19:14] <ayeyen> Oh man, at least two years.
[19:14] <ayeyen> Possibly three.
[19:14] <IamKing> not as old as I thought
[19:15] <ayeyen> I'm not too good with remembering dates. :P It's at least two. possibly thre
[19:15] <menzzo> you don't know the model though?
[19:15] <ayeyen> I'll go check
[19:16] <menzzo> if not, your isp probably has a dispatch ticket for you on their database
[19:16] <menzzo> you might be able to get it there
[19:16] <ayeyen> speedstream 5360
[19:17] <menzzo> i'm just reading what you said earlier
[19:18] <menzzo> what's the problem again because i'm finding it hard to understand
[19:18] <menzzo> you want to have internet ---> router_01 ---> router_02 ---> machin
[19:18] <ayeyen> well that's my setup now
[19:19] <ayeyen> internet -> adsl modem -> router A -> router B ))))) laptop (wirele
[19:19] <IamKing> more like Internet ---> SpeedStream modem ----> router --->
[19:19] <IamKing> oh shit...you are still using 2 different routers?
[19:19] <menzzo> and what's the problem with it?
[19:19] <Life^> yeah
[19:19] * IamKing drops head on desk
[19:19] <Life^> lol yeah
[19:19] <IamKing> 1 router is enough
[19:19] <Life^> see you don't want to be using 2 diff routers
[19:20] <menzzo> i dunno
[19:20] <menzzo> i had to use two before
[19:20] <Life^> from what you're describing, it sounds like your problem is multiple conflict
[19:20] <IamKing> no, you don't ever NEED to use 2 in a home environment
[19:20] <menzzo> one had a special line for phone through dsl
[19:20] <IamKing> ever
[19:20] <Life^> IamKing: I use 4 in my home environment ;)
[19:20] <Life^> for good reasons ;)
[19:20] <menzzo> but had poor admin screen
[19:20] <IamKing> if you need to extend the reach of the network, then you use switches or WA
[19:20] <Life^> IamKing: Not really :P Switches are limited in range but that's not the poi
[19:20] <Life^> anyways we're going off on a tangent
[19:21] <menzzo> move your laptop closer
[19:21] <menzzo> :D
[19:21] <menzzo> put your bedroom in the basement
[19:21] <Life^> ayeyen: Long story short here's the situation. Your speedstream is capable
[19:21] <menzzo> it's cheap, it works and you won't have to move if there is a tornado
[19:22] <Life^> ayeyen: So you have one of a few situations going on. You could have turned
[19:22] <Life^> it can output both an internal and public ip's
[19:23] <Life^> whats happening is those modems try to "Self configure" when it detects a cli
[19:23] <ayeyen> The adsl modem does NOTHING on its own, guys, all it does it interpret pppoe
[19:23] <ayeyen> oh.
[19:23] <Life^> do you have a laptop or a computer you can hook up to the modem for the time
[19:23] <ayeyen> Not completely sure i get it.
[19:23] <ayeyen> I do, yeah
[19:23] <Life^> okay do this .......
[19:23] <menzzo> or me
[19:23] <menzzo> i don't even understand the issue
[19:23] <Life^> menzzo: THen don't contribute or scroll up ;)
[19:24] <Life^> ayeyen: Okay do this......disconnect the modem from the first router.
[19:24] <menzzo> i don't worry, i am
[19:25] <Life^> turn on the firewall on the computer you're going to be hooking it up to if i
[19:25] <menzzo> oh don't*
[19:25] <Life^> turn off the power on the speedstream, hook up the ethernet to the computer.
[19:25] <Life^> verify you get a physical link (ie lights should turn on on your computer)
[19:26] <ayeyen> it works fine directly connected to the laptop.
[19:26] <Topknot> does anyone here know how to install a gkrellm plugin using mandriva 2008
[19:26] <ayeyen> really fast too.
[19:26] <Life^> ayeyen: you said it did nothing alone lol
[19:26] <ayeyen> Well
[19:26] <ayeyen> It doesn't assign me an ip addresas
[19:26] <Life^> then how do you know if it's fast or slow lol
[19:26] <ayeyen> windows pops up and says "this connection has limited connectivity"
[19:26] <ayeyen> but i can still dial my pppoe connection
[19:27] <ayeyen> And the internet connects just fine
[19:27] <Life^> blah
[19:27] <ayeyen> And I can surf to any site, on any protocol, properly, download things quick
[19:27] <Topknot> that might mean your network has a key, for security
[19:27] <Topknot> thats what my wireless does untill i put the key in
[19:27] <Life^> lol no it doesn't
[19:27] <ayeyen> No, both my routers have different WPA keys, but I know both, that's not the
[19:27] <ayeyen> haha
[19:27] <Life^> Topknot: Shush that's diff
[19:27] <ayeyen> Way different :P
[19:27] <Life^> ayeyen: Okay so wait you're using a dialer to connect your computer?
[19:28] <ayeyen> No
[19:28] <ayeyen> I go to "add new connection" in windows xp.
[19:28] <ayeyen> Tell it it's a pppoe connection and input my username and password
[19:29] <ayeyen> then it saves the settings. then i open the connection window and press conn
[19:29] <Life^> which is a dialer lol
[19:29] <ayeyen> It's the standard process for a PPPoE connection on Windows XP.
[19:29] <ayeyen> lol sorry :P
[19:29] <menzzo> can limited connectivity mean lack of open ports?
[19:29] <Life^> no
[19:29] <menzzo> bugger
[19:30] <Life^> ayeyen: Blah who set the speedstream up, you or your ISP?
[19:31] <ayeyen> set it up?
[19:31] <ayeyen> Like physically attached the cables? me.
[19:32] <ayeyen> But there's no actual configuration. It never assigns me an IP address, so I
[19:33] <Life^> blah it's bridged then
[19:33] <Life^> so changing directions a little bit
[19:33] <Life^> your two routers, what ip addresses are they using?
[19:35] <ayeyen> router A uses 192.168.2.1
[19:35] <ayeyen> that's the 802.11b "pppoe passthrough" router
[19:35] <ayeyen> and router B uses 192.168.10.1
[19:35] <ayeyen> that's the wireless-g router
[19:35] <IamKing> at least they're using different subnets :P
[19:36] <ayeyen> yeah
[19:36] <ayeyen> I made sure of that
[19:36] <ayeyen> also my family has a wireless g router a floor up
[19:36] <ayeyen> it's on wifi channel 11 and mine's on wifi channel 1
[19:36] <ayeyen> I made sure of that too
[19:36] <Life^> why do you have so many routers? lol
[19:37] <ayeyen> Well that one is theirs
[19:37] <Life^> with as much as you've spent on routers there you could have gotten one good
[19:37] <ayeyen> and I have my own phone line and router(s)
[19:37] <Moshie> I am trying to hook my pc to hdtv and get 1080p\
[19:37] <Moshie> but the screen is to big
[19:37] <Life^> too big?
[19:37] <ayeyen> haha I bought the barricade (802.11b one) for like $10 and the 802.11g one f
[19:37] <Moshie> yup
[19:37] <Life^> Moshie: care to be a little less vague?
[19:37] <Moshie> on my hdtv
[19:38] * IamKing spews over the SMC Barricade piece of shit
[19:38] <Life^> ayeyen: Lol well I dunno here's the thing, I don't have any config info that
[19:38] <Moshie> I cant see the start button on winxp
[19:38] <ayeyen> I didn't know it did anything other than bridged.
[19:38] <Life^> Moshie: Your video card has to support 1080p hdtv, and you'd have to change
[19:39] * ayeyen loves the SMC Barricade, it's a solid router, has never done him wrong except it o
[19:39] <Life^> lol
[19:39] <IamKing> yeah...nothing wrong at all :P
[19:40] <Star_Fire> i need a new power suppl yof rmy smc barricade
[19:40] <Moshie> set it to 1080p amd resolution two different things?
[19:40] <Life^> Moshie: Huh?
[19:40] * IamKing pulls Star_Fire over for Typing While Intoxicated
[19:40] <IamKing> heheheh
[19:40] <Life^> ayeyen: Blah, you'd be better off getting one router that doesn't suck ;)
[19:41] <ayeyen> IamKing, pretty sure it only hung when my download speeds got too fast, like
[19:41] <J_B_007> i use vista; how do i set it so that i can move folders around and everythi
[19:41] <Life^> I mean I guess you could dmz the second router :| But ugh
[19:41] <ayeyen> Life^, I want a Linksys wireless-g one, but I'm trying to make do with what
[19:41] <IamKing> ayeyen: capping should never be necessary for a real router :P
[19:41] <ayeyen> also, I apparently have NO clue what DMZ is.
[19:41] <Moshie> are resolution and setting it to 1080p two different things
[19:41] <ayeyen> I thought I did, but i was horribly wrong
[19:41] <IamKing> De-Militarized Zone
[19:41] <J_B_007> because its not working right, i click continue so that the folder will be
[19:42] <IamKing> all ports forward to a single IP address behind NAT
[19:42] <Life^> Moshie: Yes
[19:43] <Moshie> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[19:43] <ayeyen> So, if I put it in the DMZ, I don't need to forward all the ports twice?
[19:43] <J_B_007> can anyone help me with my vista problem
[19:43] <ayeyen> deal, brb
[19:43] <ayeyen> I'll be back in like ten minutes, I'm almost positive.
[19:43] <Life^> ugh
[19:43] <Moshie> then al video and stuff welll be 1080p
[19:44] <Ifrit> could anyone help me with what is apparently a nerd/video game reference?
[19:44] <Ifrit> http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat070421.html
[19:44] <Life^> Moshie: dude nothing you say ever makes sense :|
[19:45] <Moshie> wellcome to my life:)
[19:45] <Life^> Moshie: Care to try asking again in english?
[19:46] <Moshie> everything will be in 1080p
[19:46] <Life^> everything what?
[19:46] <Life^> see that's not really saying anything
[19:46] <Moshie> computer screen
[19:46] <J_B_007> can anyone help me with my vista problem
[19:46] <Life^> no
[19:46] <Moshie> ok,kolol
[19:46] <Life^> computer screens don't run in 1080p per say
[19:46] <Life^> basically you're trying to merge two similar but diff technologies
[19:46] <Moshie> tv card?
[19:47] <Life^> does your video card support 1080p?
[19:47] <Moshie> it has a option to se it to 1080p hdtv
[19:47] <ayeyen> Back
[19:47] <Moshie> when connected to dvi
[19:48] <ayeyen> put the second router in the first one's dmz, no difference, hotmail.com sti
[19:48] <J_B_007> hellooooo
[19:48] <Moshie> I bought a dvi to hdmi cable
[19:48] <Nilisco> 1080p is just a 1920x1080 resolution, hence many video cards and monitors
[19:48] <J_B_007> vista isnt letting me move a folder without its permission
[19:48] <J_B_007> and when i click continue to allow it, it still wont happen
[19:48] <J_B_007> does anyone know
[19:48] <Nilisco> J_B_007, then give it permission
[19:49] <Ifrit> aha
[19:49] <J_B_007> i do
[19:49] <Life^> no
[19:49] <Ifrit> apparently it's a puzzle quest reference
[19:49] <Moshie> oh ok kooool
[19:49] <J_B_007> i click continue
[19:49] <J_B_007> and it sitll wont happen
[19:49] <Moshie> I got the hp media smart tv
[19:49] <Obsidieth> mh, i dont get that there referance either
[19:49] * penguino farts
[19:49] <ayeyen> I wonder what's left for me to try...
[19:50] <Life^> Nilisco: That's not right at all :|
[19:50] <Nilisco> then feel free to correct me
[19:50] <Life^> well one of the 1080p resolutions is 1920x1080.....it has to do with pixel as
[19:50] <J_B_007> i might have fixed it
[19:50] <J_B_007> brb
[19:50] <Life^> but 1080p isn't strictly controlled by a set resolution like that. That's wh
[19:51] <Life^> but the bigger problem is interfacing
[19:51] <maelvino> the Joost.net made a new site does anyone know what it's calleD?
[19:51] <Life^> because 1080p typically requires a digital interface like hdmi or DVI (usuall
[19:52] <Life^> and the problem there is in order to maintain proper signaling you often have
[19:52] <penguino> can 8x media DVDs burn at 12x?
[19:52] <Nilisco> well, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p states 1920x1080 many times, that'
[19:52] <Life^> penguino: I wouldn't
[19:52] <penguino> i accidentally let nero go with it and if i stop it will be a coasted...th
[19:53] <penguino> taiyo yudens are great but...ya know how it goes
[19:53] <Life^> well it's alot more complicated than that wiki suggests :}
[19:53] <svm> what is the bot to register my nick and register a channel?
[19:53] <mikelarry> you can't on efnet
[19:53] <IamKing> svm: for an explanation on why there are NO REGISTRATION SERVICES whatsoeve
[19:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[19:53] <Nilisco> I don't see how it is
[19:54] <svm> IamKing: thanks.
[19:54] <Life^> because he's not just asking about what is 1080
[19:54] <Nilisco> if someone comes in here and asks how they could play a 1080p video file wi
[19:54] <Life^> he is talking about interfacing
[19:54] <Life^> and that would be wrong :|
[19:54] <Nilisco> how so?
[19:54] <Life^> Because, here's an example
[19:55] <Moshie> ok
[19:55] <penguino> i dont even have the money for a HDTV so ....meh
[19:55] <ayeyen> Hey Life^ I'm back. DMZ didn't fix anything.
[19:55] <Moshie> life go with ur example
[19:55] <Life^> When you start talking 1080p you're usually talking hd-dvd/bluray since ota 1
[19:55] <Moshie> this is all new to me
[19:56] <Moshie> wowowowowwow
[19:56] <Life^> Part of the whole "HD" thing is content control, think macrovision style but
[19:56] <Life^> if you fail it at any point in the chain tehre are consequences :|
[19:56] <Moshie> my ps3 is 1080p I think
[19:56] <Copafield> yes ps3 is 1080p
[19:56] <Life^> And typically it'll do a quarter res scale :|
[19:56] <Copafield> well
[19:56] <Copafield> cap;able
[19:56] <Metshrine> ps3 is 480p
[19:57] <Copafield> blueray discs
[19:57] <Moshie> hmmmmm
[19:57] <Moshie> now ur talking over my hed
[19:57] <Copafield> actually whenyou use hdmi it select the 1080 by itself
[19:57] <Life^> btw, I'll be honest up front, I'm totally glossing over and simplifying some
[19:57] <Moshie> hahahahahaha
[19:58] * ayeyen will wait until after the HD talk dies down
[19:58] <Moshie> hahahahahahaha
[19:58] <Life^> ayeyen: I don't know what to tell you other than you need to just invest the
[19:58] <Nilisco> how was my statement wrong though/
[19:58] <Life^> Nilisco: 1080p & hdtv are two things that work together but shouldn't be con
[19:59] <ayeyen> Rats. I was hoping I could make this work.
[19:59] <Moshie> ok
[19:59] <ayeyen> Looks like it's back to 802.11b for me.
[19:59] <Life^> Nilisco: Because well 1080p is more than just one set res and one set framer
[19:59] <Nilisco> would the framerate matter in my example?
[19:59] <Moshie> but I connected my pv to the vga port
[20:00] <Life^> there are multiple framerates supported, and multiple resolutions. For insta
[20:00] <Moshie> it haas audio port to
[20:00] <Moshie> ok,kool
[20:00] <Life^> And it's not as simple as just plug it all in and go right now. In a few yea
[20:00] <Life^> that's why there are specific "1080p" profiles in video cards that support th
[20:00] <Life^> It's more than just setting a resolutio nof 1920x1080 and being done with it
[20:01] <turnus> How do i redirect users to a certain URL the first time they open their web
[20:01] <Moshie> I wish there where tv cards with hdmi ports
[20:01] <Life^> Moshie: The bandwidth on hdmi is too insane
[20:01] <Moshie> I am using mce
[20:01] <Moshie> ok
[20:02] <Nilisco> if a monitor can natively run at 1920x1080p with 1:1 pixel mapping, I still
[20:02] <Life^> that's why mce supports ota since it can record the compressed video stream o
[20:02] <Nilisco> I don't know about the 1440x1080, but I don't see why codecs/players wouldn
[20:02] <penguino> RA HE YA!
[20:03] <Moshie> I rea,lly like mce
[20:03] <Moshie> but it just looks plan
[20:03] <Life^> btw Moshie to futher clarify, the reason you don't see lots of hdmi capture c
[20:03] <Life^> and the data rates are nuts
[20:03] <Life^> 8 bit uncompressed over hdmi is like 960mbps
[20:04] <Moshie> wow
[20:04] <Life^> yeah, 2TB per hour or so
[20:04] <Moshie> u must work for microsoft]
[20:04] <Moshie> ur really talking over my head
[20:04] <Life^> lol, I've installed a few high end video systems :| hahahaha
[20:04] <graywhite> you know when you peel a sticker off something and the white part of it j
[20:04] <Moshie> 2tb is 2,00 gigs??????????
[20:04] <Life^> Nilisco: I dunno how to clarify this. It's fairly complicated :|
[20:05] <graywhite> 2,00?
[20:05] <Star_Fire> turn: you want to do what places like Starbucks does when you connect to
[20:05] <Moshie> 2,000
[20:05] <IamKing> Moshie: no, 2,048 GB
[20:05] <Nilisco> graywhite, use a hairdryer when removing it, else use a fluid to get it off
[20:05] <Life^> I mean to be honest, the simplified answer is, 1080p is 1920x1080. But it's
[20:05] <deww> graywhite: depending on the type of surface the sticker is on, you can try goo
[20:05] <Life^> and assuming that just plugging it in will magically get you 1080 is equally
[20:05] <graywhite> deww a mirror
[20:05] <Life^> you need to buy hardware that supports 1080p over whatever interface you're u
[20:06] <graywhite> and not somethin i have to go buy that would make it even harder than jus
[20:06] <Moshie> life r u deww
[20:06] <Life^> lol no
[20:06] <Moshie> hahha
[20:06] <Life^> I'm not nearly that sexy
[20:06] <Moshie> sounds like it
[20:06] <deww> no life's sexier
[20:06] <Moshie> heheheheheheh
[20:06] <Moshie> there he is
[20:06] <penguino> ra he ya!!!!
[20:06] <Life^> lol
[20:06] <Nilisco> plugging what in? I was assuming some sort of pirated 1080p rip from HBO o
[20:06] <Moshie> hows life in the big city???????//
[20:06] <deww> see i dunno nuffin about 1080p
[20:07] <Nilisco> Still, I agree that 1080p means more than I originally thought.
[20:07] <Life^> Nilisco: Because it's more than just 1920x1080 :|
[20:07] <penguino> there are some good private hd torrent sites that have 1080p
[20:07] <Life^> otehrwise they would say 1920x1080 :P
[20:07] <Moshie> deww hows it going??
[20:07] <Life^> 1080p just means that it has 1080 lines of resolution, and it's displayed pro
[20:08] <Moshie> koo,ll
[20:08] <Moshie> kool
[20:08] <deww> Moshie: not bad
[20:08] <Moshie> kool bean my friend
[20:08] <ayeyen> Thanks Life^, I'll keep playing with this.
[20:08] <Moshie> beans
[20:08] <Life^> Nilisco: Here maybe this will help. Think of comparing 1080p to "Mpeg2". W
[20:08] <Moshie> I dont know gbout 1080p
[20:08] <Life^> that "1080p" is just like a container label :| does that help put it in cont
[20:09] <Nilisco> yes, but I'd still argue that my answer is correct
[20:09] <Moshie> I just bought a hp mediasmart tv and it has 1080p
[20:09] <Moshie> yup
[20:09] <Nilisco> with one notice - "Playing blu-ray may require different hardware to suppor
[20:10] <Moshie> snowing in new york??????????
[20:10] * Obsidieth is now known as OBsidiahs
[20:10] * OBsidiahs is now known as Obsidieth
[20:11] <Life^> *sigh*
[20:11] <Nilisco> a 1920x1080 native resolution monitor should always be able to correctly di
[20:12] <Nilisco> this assumes it meets stanards, if needed, such as HDCP
[20:14] <Kingsy> hey, just wondering if someone could help me, I am on my laptop at the momen
[20:14] <Copafield> hdcp?is that anythin like dhcp? ;D
[20:15] <Moshie> but I hook up to hdmi port thiers no audio
[20:15] <Copafield> Kingsy: only your usb drive?
[20:15] <Moshie> so oh well
[20:15] <Nilisco> Kingsy, have another usb device to try in that socket?
[20:17] <Life^> blah
[20:18] <Life^> sometimes work sucks :|
[20:18] <Life^> Nilisco: I guess what I'm saying is I've installed dozens of hd systems into
[20:18] * Star_Fire is now known as Fire_Star
[20:18] * Star-Fire is now known as Star_Fire
[20:19] <Life^> and it's not quite as simple as just assuming anything capable of 1920x1080 w
[20:20] <Nilisco> fair enough
[20:23] <an> any vmware server users here?
[20:27] <TheUni> yup.
[20:27] <TheUni> but just ask, anyway
[20:31] <an> do you run any virtual servers with the actual files on a network drive?
[20:31] <TheUni> you mean the vm's themselves?
[20:31] <an> ya the acutal vm files
[20:31] <TheUni> no
[20:31] <an> executing from one server but are physically on a network drive on another serve
[20:32] <an> I need to run like this for a few days and was curious if it would be an issue
[20:32] <TheUni> mmm... run how?
[20:32] <TheUni> iscsi?
[20:32] <menzzo> you need a vm to access a networked drive?
[20:32] <an> its just gig ethernet
[20:32] <TheUni> menzzo: sounds like he needs to run a vm stored on a reote server
[20:33] <TheUni> an: but shared how?
[20:33] <menzzo> oh dear, i've never tried that before
[20:33] <an> just a windows share
[20:33] <an> might HBA was backordered
[20:33] <TheUni> yikes
[20:33] <an> so right now I have a shre on antoher server, the drive is on the SAN
[20:33] <TheUni> doesn't seem advisable, but i guess it would work
[20:34] <TheUni> if it were mounted locally
[20:34] <TheUni> and you had full priveliges
[20:35] <an> the host server is a dual quad core box, but only 300 gig of drive space
[20:35] <an> and it runs 8 vm's
[20:35] <an> which wont fit locally
[20:35] <an> and they are notmally on a SAN connected from the host to SAN via 4 gb FC
[20:35] <an> actually dual 4 gb FC's
[20:36] <an> so trying to squeeze that all over a gigabit connection
[20:40] <Rakogo> Hey
[20:40] <Rakogo> yo
[20:40] <Rakogo> any of you know anything about alienware laptops?
[20:40] <Obsidieth> sux
[20:40] <Rakogo> what's like the lowest priced alienware?
[20:40] <an> $1 on ebay
[20:41] <Rakogo> no no
[20:41] <Rakogo> at the end of a sale
[20:41] <Rakogo> come on
[20:41] <an> oh
[20:43] <IamKing> $4,000
[20:45] <an> IamKing I saw some for $3999.95
[20:45] <IamKing> congrats! you saved 5 cents!
[20:45] <an> I had a ciupon
[20:45] <an> err
[20:45] <an> coupon
[20:46] <an> 5 cents off any purchase over 3950
[20:50] * Obsidieth is now known as o-dog
[20:53] <Life^> bleh
[20:53] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Politics/Medical/Ho
[20:53] <Life^> Rakogo: If you're looking alienware, this month is a good month
[20:53] <Life^> alienware == owned by dell
[20:54] <Life^> and dell's fiscal is u
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