Log for #help on 2007-12-28


Session Start: Fri Dec 28 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #Help
[00:00] <kiax> it doesnt work
[00:00] <Jumpie> kiax
[00:00] <Jumpie> sometimes..and i ahte to say this..stuff gets hosed
[00:00] <kiax> i have a dell e520 and got it from their site
[00:00] <Jumpie> and you gotat end up doing some reg stuff
[00:00] <Jumpie> things dont clean thesmelves gracefully
[00:00] <kiax> its not that
[00:00] <kiax> i just formatted
[00:00] <kiax> and its just bein a pain
[00:01] <Jumpie> so what exactly is the problem?
[00:01] <kiax> well sound doesnt work
[00:01] <Jumpie> and does device manager show it?
[00:01] <kiax> yea and it says its working
[00:01] <Jumpie> and multimedia devices
[00:01] <kiax> but when i right click i dont have an uninstall option
[00:02] <copeland> Device Manager > Sound, video and game controllers > (Your sound car
[00:02] <kiax> lol im not retarded seriously
[00:02] <copeland> i didn't say you were, just double checking. =p
[00:02] <kiax> yea it just shows update driver, scan for hardware changes, and properties
[00:03] <copeland> strange
[00:03] <kiax> and i can still update the driver, but when i point it to the right driver i s
[00:05] <kiax> im gonna try safe mode see if i get anywhere
[00:13] <kiax> now its not even showing up as installed lol
[00:14] <Jazy> hi
[00:14] <Jazy> need help
[00:14] <Thriva> what do you need help with Jazy
[00:14] <kiax> hmmmm i wonder if its sp3
[00:15] <copeland> whats up Jazy?
[00:15] <copeland> kiax do you have your driver install cd?
[00:15] <Reloaded> hello
[00:15] <kiax> no just grabbed it off dells site
[00:15] <Jazy> want to register a channel
[00:15] <Jazy> want to know how can i register channel
[00:15] <Thriva> you cant register a chan on efnet
[00:15] <Reloaded> Jazy: Channels and Nicknames are not regitered on this network.
[00:15] <Jazy> why Thriva
[00:16] <Thriva> cuss its efnet :-)
[00:16] <Reloaded> Jazy: EFNet's policy.
[00:16] <kiax> i know its the right driver, but it says this is not the correct driver for th
[00:16] <Thriva> you can on delnet i think
[00:16] <Reloaded> Is it possible to filter spam? in Outlook Express?
[00:16] <Thriva> Reloaded yes it is
[00:16] <kiax> how the crap can it not even detect it
[00:16] <kiax> hmmm think i might have to format again
[00:17] <Reloaded> Thriva: Can you please tell me how? (:
[00:17] <Thriva> i just dont know how to do it but i know theres away to do it im not shor
[00:17] <Thriva> Reloaded 1 sec ill look it up
[00:18] <Thriva> found it go here there are some free spam blockers for outlook http://search
[00:19] <MrRabbit> ha
[00:20] <MrRabbit> found this little proggy with an awful interface that does chroma key thin
[00:20] <MrRabbit> wish they had that feature as a plugin
[00:31] <Reloaded> Thriva: Thanks! P:
[00:32] <scatterp> hi can any one help me set up terminal services server on windows xp ?
[00:32] <scatterp> win xp pro sp2
[00:39] <MrRabbit> man this software sucks, no help file and interface is horrible, can't mak
[00:40] <Joops> Can Nero convert my AVI file and burn it in to dvd video format for me?
[00:40] <MrRabbit> yup
[00:40] <MrRabbit> unless it doesn't recognize the avi's encoding....
[00:40] <Joops> How would I do this? I dont see how
[00:41] <Joops> I chose DVD then dvd video but am lost
[00:44] <Joops> I see, I need to use NERO VISION. thanks
[00:44] <MrRabbit> sory haven't played with it recently, the way I prefered doing this was ma
[00:44] <MrRabbit> I used a tool like DVDLab
[00:45] <Joops> how long does it take to make the dvd files with dvdlab?
[00:47] <MrRabbit> wasn't too long, and once it's done, nero doesn't encode anything so it's
[00:48] <MrRabbit> DVDLab is really great, u can have menus etc
[00:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[00:50] <Joops> koo thx
[00:50] <Joops> ill check it out
[00:50] <MrRabbit> no
[00:50] <MrRabbit> prob
[00:50] * xplosion- is now known as roto-
[00:51] * roto- is now known as xplosion-
[00:51] <MrRabbit> hmm, I think I managed to make that chroma feature to work...
[00:52] <MrRabbit> looks like it can even use a background image to be a video source... I wi
[00:54] <Thriva> Joops if you need any converting programns i got like 12 of them :-)
[00:55] <Thriva> mind you theres lots of freeware 1ns on websites to
[01:02] <thun> does usb 1.0 have any power at al
[01:02] <thun> *all
[01:03] <Thriva> have any power at all?
[01:04] <thun> yah
[01:04] <thun> is it powered
[01:07] <Jumpie> why the hell is windows askin me to sign in with windows live id when im try
[01:07] <Jumpie> this big brother crap has got to stop
[01:07] <Jumpie> i have no msn crap loaded
[01:08] <Ghostwolf> firewall it
[01:08] <Raindm> are there any dual core type of intel?
[01:09] <Thriva2> ya
[01:10] <Thriva2> http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/results.aspx?q=dual+core+type+of+intel&geova
[01:10] <Raindm> how is dual core d925/3000ghz 4mb?
[01:12] <Jumpie> yes but where is this enter windows live crap coming nito play?
[01:12] <Jumpie> it pops up every time i try to delete a file
[01:12] * Thriva aint that smart
[01:13] <Thriva> Jumpie what os r u
[01:13] <Jumpie> xp
[01:13] <Jumpie> this hasnt happened before
[01:15] * Efreeti is now known as Ifrit
[01:16] <infam0us^> hey all
[01:16] <infam0us^> does anybody know a program that creates a virtual HD? like there is a vi
[01:16] <infam0us^> :<
[01:18] <Thriva> sorry Jumpie ill look around and see if i can find the anser infam0us^ you
[01:18] <ducch> anyone good with excel?
[01:18] <ducch> i have a cell with =COUNTIF(B:B,"??/12/07")
[01:19] <ducch> B:B is a dates column
[01:19] <infam0us^> no just want a program that creates a virtual HD like daemon tools does w
[01:19] <ducch> it detects only 12 of like 20 rows that has a date that looks like dd/mm/yy
[01:19] <ducch> if i play with the cell formats these it doesnt detect change into ####### in
[01:19] <ducch> anyone has a clue?
[01:21] <Thriva> daemon tools cre8ts virtual cd drives but for you to cre8t a virtual harddr
[01:22] <infam0us^> hmmm don't know few gb just want to know if there is such a possibility
[01:22] <ducch> if i change the cells format to text it shows a 5 digits number.
[01:23] <Thriva> ya it can be done but you would need to get the few gigs someware example s
[01:24] <anderson> Once I download movies how do i watch them
[01:24] <infam0us^> o.k and let's say i have splittled the HD into 2 hdrivers what will i do
[01:24] <Thriva> thats it :-) now you got 2hd's
[01:25] <Thriva> anderson what format
[01:25] <anderson> they are zip files\
[01:26] <Thriva> normally all you need to do is install the right codecs and watch them on w
[01:26] <Thriva> umm name the files in 1 of the zip's
[01:27] <anderson> where would i get the right codecs from
[01:27] <MattTS> Just download winzip, install it, extract he zips and then download and inst
[01:28] <Thriva> lol not if its a iso
[01:28] <Thriva> wass the filename in the zip
[01:29] <MattTS> an iso is just a disk image and it'd only be an iso if it was a DVD image
[01:30] <Thriva> ppl zip/rar isos so you got to exstract the rars to see the iso
[01:30] <MattTS> Really!?
[01:31] <MattTS> He probably doesn't even know how to unzip it yet
[01:31] <Thriva> lol u got to figger out if its a avi/mpg he is trying to unzip are if its a
[01:31] <anderson> I downloaded winzip and installed it, extracted the zips, there where lik
[01:32] <Thriva> what files did you get wen you extracted the zips
[01:32] <anderson> r44
[01:32] <Thriva> dowenload winrar
[01:32] <Raindm> how is dual core d925/3000ghz 4mb is old CPU from intel?
[01:33] <Thriva> you need that to exstract those r44 files
[01:33] <anderson> okay
[01:34] <MattTS> You need to put all the .rxx files with the same name into one folder and th
[01:34] <Thriva> yeppers
[01:35] <Thriva> i bet you its a iso
[01:35] * Thriva could be roung tho
[01:36] <Ghostwolf> heh... 99.99% chance this is a illegal software chat
[01:36] <Thriva> lol not yet it aint
[01:36] <Thriva> i was being carfull not to :-)
[01:36] <MattTS> Ghostwolf, he's just asking how to extract a .zip, then a rar and watch a vi
[01:36] <MattTS> Could be perfectly legal
[01:37] <MattTS> :)
[01:37] <MattTS> Thriva, you can zip/rar anything and release groups do. Part rar files are t
[01:38] * Thriva i know :-)
[01:38] <Thriva2> hehe
[01:38] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[01:40] <anderson> thanks for your help
[01:40] <Thriva> are you able to watch it now
[01:40] <anderson> no, but I'm gonna keep trying to figure it out.
[01:40] <Thriva2> ok we can help umm wass the probublum now
[01:41] <Thriva2> after you use winrar and exstract all the files what type of files do you g
[01:45] <anderson> i am going through the process again. I am using winrar to extract the fil
[01:46] <Thriva2> k
[01:46] <Thriva2> how many files dose it exstract just 1
[01:46] <anderson> no there are several
[01:47] <Thriva2> is it ok if i pm you
[01:47] <Thriva2> then others cant see what i say
[01:47] <anderson> yep
[01:48] <DJ_HaMsTa> MORNING PPL!!!
[01:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[02:17] <grArot> help!
[02:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> !ask
[02:18] <grArot> my box started resetting itself
[02:18] <grArot> more and more often
[02:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> !detailed
[02:18] <grArot> over the course of.. 3 days?
[02:18] <DJ_HaMsTa> fedEx or ups ?
[02:18] <grArot> got so it wouldnt come on
[02:18] <grArot> i figured it was the recently replaced power supply
[02:18] <grArot> cuz it was cheap
[02:19] <grArot> didnt help.. so i tried the onboard video, and it works
[02:19] <grArot> so my 170 dollar video card.. isnt working
[02:19] <grArot> box hasnt reset yet
[02:19] <grArot> it was down to minutes
[02:19] <grArot> dunno now
[02:19] <Jumpie> ugh my vnc is all delayed
[02:19] <grArot> FUCK
[02:19] <Jumpie> gettin cursor trail
[02:19] <grArot> er
[02:19] <grArot> darn
[02:19] <grArot> DARN
[02:19] <grArot> so, like, wtf do i do
[02:19] <grArot> heh
[02:20] <grArot> so.. any ideas?
[02:21] <grArot> yeh figured
[02:21] <Thriva2> :-)
[02:21] <DJ_HaMsTa> whats the freaking question ?
[02:22] <grArot> hwo do i FIX IT
[02:22] <Jumpie> disable onboard?
[02:22] <Jumpie> plug monitor into corret card
[02:22] <grArot> youre joking right
[02:23] <DJ_HaMsTa> wtf do u want to fix, cheap psu, ur 170 vid card or the trail mouse
[02:23] <grArot> psu?
[02:23] <grArot> oh
[02:23] <grArot> well its not the psu
[02:23] <grArot> the video card
[02:23] <grArot> is the culprit
[02:23] <DJ_HaMsTa> get a new pne ?
[02:23] <grArot> i just got this one
[02:24] <DJ_HaMsTa> rma ?
[02:24] <grArot> not that recently
[02:24] <grArot> uh
[02:24] <grArot> june?
[02:24] <DJ_HaMsTa> rma..
[02:24] <grArot> yeh im emailin the fuckers
[02:26] <grArot> grrrr
[02:27] <grArot> anyway
[02:41] <FRANCHISE> what do i type for movies?this is my first time using mirc...
[02:41] <FRANCHISE> hellooo
[02:43] <FRANCHISE> anyone here
[02:43] <FRANCHISE> what do i do
[02:43] <FRANCHISE> anyone
[02:43] <FRANCHISE> what do i doo
[02:43] <FRANCHISE> hello
[02:44] <FRANCHISE> -b *!*@1cust160.tnt12.dial.tor2.uunet.ca
[02:44] <FRANCHISE> Almtybob do u have any movies
[02:44] <AlmtyBob> I'm looking for the command line params for FFMpeg to convert a video into
[02:44] <AlmtyBob> yah, lots
[02:45] <FRANCHISE> how do i download movies here
[02:45] <AlmtyBob> try www.netflix.com
[02:45] <FRANCHISE> lol
[02:45] <FRANCHISE> like theatre movies
[02:45] <FRANCHISE> not out yet on dvd
[02:45] <FRANCHISE> this myfirst time using this mirc
[02:46] <FRANCHISE> teach me pls
[02:46] <AlmtyBob> this isn't the place for piracy
[02:46] <FRANCHISE> oh
[02:46] <FRANCHISE> where do i go
[02:46] <FRANCHISE> whats this place for?
[02:46] <FRANCHISE> i see u need something also
[02:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[02:49] <FRANCHISE> oh
[02:49] <FRANCHISE> what can i do in MIRC?
[02:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> chat
[02:49] <FRANCHISE> what is it use for?
[02:50] <DJ_HaMsTa> its useless!
[02:50] <FRANCHISE> why
[02:50] <DJ_HaMsTa> because we have people like u bitching and complaining here
[02:51] <FRANCHISE> come on dont be like that..
[02:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> u can use mirc to chat
[02:51] <eltaco> he's not bitching or complaining. he's just asking q's
[02:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> and to belittle other people
[02:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> u must stick to the rules of channels as well
[02:51] <FRANCHISE> i just asking
[02:51] <eltaco> no u needn't.
[02:51] <FRANCHISE> i dont wanna offend anyone
[02:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> one of the rules here is, no piracy
[02:51] <eltaco> worst case you get banned. big effing whoop
[02:52] <FRANCHISE> i didnt no that
[02:52] <FRANCHISE> ok
[02:52] <DJ_HaMsTa> u can do a /list to find channels to chat on
[02:52] <FRANCHISE> we share file though right
[02:52] <DJ_HaMsTa> u can use irc for that as well
[02:53] <FRANCHISE> oh ok
[02:54] <FRANCHISE> so mirc and irc is different?
[02:54] <eltaco> yes.
[02:54] <FRANCHISE> im clueless sorry..
[02:54] <eltaco> mirc is the program
[02:54] <eltaco> irc is the protocol
[02:54] <FRANCHISE> oh k
[02:54] <FRANCHISE> damn u guys our really helpful thanks
[02:54] <eltaco> np
[02:54] <FRANCHISE> i like this
[02:55] <FRANCHISE> i hope everybody is helpful like u guys
[02:55] <eltaco> nah, you'll find lots of cunts on efnet.
[02:56] <eltaco> scum of the internet
[02:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> like this guy right here
[02:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> <---
[02:56] <eltaco> actually I think we're old school scum nowadays.
[02:56] <eltaco> the real scum hangs out at 4chan
[02:58] <DJ_HaMsTa> im just bored to death today, in the mood to bich at people
[02:59] <eltaco> gimme ur best shot :P
[02:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> cant wait for someone to ask a retarded question
[02:59] <eltaco> does efnet have services? :D
[03:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> yes, we have weekly scheduled prostate exam services.
[03:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> all at no cost to the users.
[03:02] <eltaco> ooohoh nice
[03:03] <eltaco> how do i registrar my nick?
[03:06] <^Lea^> no nickserve or chanserv
[03:06] <^Lea^> here
[03:06] <eltaco> thanks ^Lea^, thanks question was for DJ_HaMsTa though :)
[03:06] <eltaco> that*
[03:08] <DJ_HaMsTa> lea leave the guy alone he just came back from our weekly scheduled prost
[03:08] <eltaco> yeah I feel violated.
[03:08] <eltaco> in a good way.
[03:09] <DJ_HaMsTa> like in the good old growing up days ;)
[03:09] <Jumpie> eltaco
[03:10] <Jumpie> how long haev u been here? hearing people ask that?
[03:10] <Jumpie> and yet you ask about nick reg?
[03:10] <eltaco> Jumpie, after hearing that I should really just answer "lurk moar"
[03:10] <eltaco> or at least read like 5 lines prior
[03:10] <Jumpie> i suppose i could
[03:11] <Jumpie> my bad
[03:11] <eltaco> I'm trying to cheer DJ_HaMsTa up with some lame q's :)
[03:11] <Jumpie> you are forgiven
[03:11] <Jumpie> :)
[03:11] <Jumpie> hey man im nodding off im tired
[03:11] <Jumpie> 1 hour left at work
[03:11] <Jumpie> make that 50 mins
[03:12] <eltaco> you are forgiven too :o)
[03:12] <Jumpie> eeh
[03:12] <eltaco> wanna see a smiley with a really long nose? 8===================D
[03:13] <ASk> who wants to see the short end of the stick?
[03:13] <ASk> chat -> #helpchat
[03:14] <ASk> troll -> +b
[03:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> LOL me too!!!
[03:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> jum where do u wor k?
[03:15] <DJ_HaMsTa> eh actually i have 2 hours left
[03:15] <DJ_HaMsTa> leave at 8am
[03:17] <dealt> yo
[03:18] <eltaco> sup
[03:18] <dealt> someone want to help me install a codec for windows vista
[03:18] <eltaco> what seems to be the problem?
[03:18] <dealt> its for samsung scd363 camcorder
[03:18] <dealt> its not working for some reason
[03:19] <dealt> when i go to the support page
[03:19] <dealt> it has a vista codec for 32 bit vista
[03:19] <dealt> which i didnt know existed
[03:19] <dealt> i thought vista was strickly 64
[03:20] <AlmtyBob> where'd you get your nick from dealt?
[03:20] <dealt> how can u check your version of vista?
[03:20] <dealt> i just came up with it
[03:20] <AlmtyBob> hold the windows key and press pause/break
[03:20] <AlmtyBob> should bring up your system properties
[03:20] <AlmtyBob> and os ver will be on the first tab there
[03:21] <dealt> oh
[03:21] <AlmtyBob> dealt as in casino dealer?
[03:21] <dealt> i am on 32 bit vista
[03:21] <dealt> dealt as in i dunno
[03:21] <dealt> i had a friend name third eye
[03:21] <AlmtyBob> ah ok, I see you're from san diego and I work in a casino here, was just c
[03:21] * test0 is now known as njau
[03:22] <njau> i've got motorola c651.. anyone knows if i can add a language to it?
[03:22] <dealt> and dealt was seemed like a shorter version of delwestside
[03:22] <njau> i've got the cable
[03:22] <dealt> im in san diego right now
[03:23] <dealt> i have an apartment in los angeles
[03:23] <dealt> i go to the casinos every now and then
[03:23] <dealt> especially sycuan since its the closest
[03:23] <Jumpie> AlmtyBob so answer honestly
[03:23] <AlmtyBob> no, we don't cheat
[03:23] <Jumpie> do casinos(at least some) some how have a mechanism inp lace to rig the crap
[03:23] <Jumpie> and if you say no your lying :)
[03:24] <AlmtyBob> hahahaha
[03:24] <AlmtyBob> I really truly hope you're kidding 8)
[03:24] <AlmtyBob> I'd give you slot machine or shuffler paranoia
[03:24] <Jumpie> i've also seen convincing data that a skilled roller can "influence" the dic
[03:24] <AlmtyBob> that's a huge debate in the advantage player community
[03:24] <AlmtyBob> some big names swear it makes a difference
[03:25] <Jumpie> i tried to be really precise once...held same way, same sides facing, tried
[03:25] <AlmtyBob> then that's just luck
[03:25] <AlmtyBob> unless you're sliding
[03:25] <AlmtyBob> which would never pass in a casino
[03:25] <Jumpie> i doubt 6x in a row is luck
[03:25] <ASk> Jumpie
[03:25] <Jumpie> yea
[03:25] <AlmtyBob> it is
[03:25] <ASk> human brain is not a good tool to measure randomness
[03:25] <AlmtyBob> if it wasn't luck you'd be able to repeat it
[03:26] <ASk> it is known that it's inherently biased and looks for patterns that don't neces
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> and people with more practice than you would have bankrupted casinos
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> exactly
[03:26] <Jumpie> i understand...and i know 'house advantage'..but i also know that certain te
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> also, you need to hit the alligators on the otherside of the table
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> which introduces tons of chaos into the dice
[03:26] <Jumpie> well...i mean..i dont practice ENOUGH i dont go enough
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> the thing you're talking about with craps
[03:26] <Jumpie> but i did try several dice arrangements and i did do well with influencing 9
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> isn't rolling a number
[03:26] <AlmtyBob> it's NOT rolling anumber
[03:26] <Jumpie> its rolling dice position
[03:27] <AlmtyBob> professional dice setters set the dice up and throw in a way that you're a
[03:27] <Jumpie> but i cant accept that every casino isnt a rip off...of course we fuel that
[03:27] <AlmtyBob> which once you've set a point makes a pretty big diff in house edge
[03:27] <Jumpie> do they teach you thsoe numbers in school? or do you really beleive that
[03:27] <AlmtyBob> all casino games are rip offs for sure
[03:27] <AlmtyBob> what numbers? house edge and such?
[03:27] <Jumpie> i mean stats ablut the 1-2% less likely for a 7
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> that I read up on my own time
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> the stats behinds the game I know from my job
[03:28] <Jumpie> come on..i did some research and i was able to have over a 30 minute run sev
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> I'm the guy who brings in new games for testing and usch
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> project manager for table games
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> sure you were
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> but you remember the good times, and not the bad
[03:28] <Jumpie> sure some luck yes...but also goes to show if you repeat what you do exactly
[03:28] <AlmtyBob> keep in mind craps has a relatively tiny house edge
[03:29] <Jumpie> yea true
[03:29] <Jumpie> i also hate winning OTHER people money that have more to spend/lose :)
[03:29] <AlmtyBob> just barely over 1% with full odds on 3/4/5
[03:29] <AlmtyBob> so now if you're right and you could even make a small influence with litt
[03:29] <Jumpie> well honestly do you know what i do? and it drives the dealers NUTS
[03:29] <AlmtyBob> there'd be roving teams out destroying those games
[03:29] <Jumpie> is roulette
[03:29] <AlmtyBob> don't be a flea.
[03:29] <Jumpie> i bet 5 and win 6
[03:29] <Jumpie> i dont try to break the bank
[03:30] <Jumpie> just make out ok
[03:30] <AlmtyBob> what do you mean bet 5 win 6?
[03:30] <AlmtyBob> roulette is the most hard-set odds in the house
[03:30] <Jumpie> im tryin to remember the numbers...but my trick is not to bet sequentially..
[03:30] <Jumpie> but i bet in chunks of the wheel
[03:30] <Jumpie> 1/2 or 1/3
[03:31] <AlmtyBob> the wheel is specifically designed to avoid clumping numbers geographicall
[03:31] <Jumpie> greater chance of hitting even as ball skips...also another way is i bet all
[03:31] <Jumpie> its luck still yes..and EACH roll has same odds yes...but i prety consistant
[03:31] <AlmtyBob> every single bet in roulette is ALWAYS 5.26% house edge in the US
[03:31] <Jumpie> put down 5X5, win $30, plus the 5 still down
[03:32] <Jumpie> yes and most idiots use superstition and 'theirl ucky numbers' to randomly b
[03:32] <Jumpie> er is it 36:1
[03:32] <AlmtyBob> 35:1
[03:32] <AlmtyBob> true odds are 36:1
[03:32] <AlmtyBob> at least your not spouting betting strategies for roulette
[03:32] <AlmtyBob> that drives me nuts
[03:32] <Jumpie> i mainly bet the streets...and i have a 30 in 38 chance of winning
[03:32] <AlmtyBob> or money management
[03:32] <Jumpie> sometimes i go to empty tables
[03:33] <Jumpie> and jus tdo that over and over...dealers hate it
[03:33] <AlmtyBob> because you bore them 8)
[03:33] <Jumpie> yea lol
[03:33] <Jumpie> but i can make $100 in an hour
[03:33] <AlmtyBob> though believe it or not most dealers would rather deal to one player bett
[03:33] <Jumpie> thats takin nito efect occaisional 0/00 or 1, 2, 3, 34, 35 , 36 hittin and i
[03:33] <AlmtyBob> wait, you just laid out a betting strategy
[03:33] <Jumpie> yeah i agree
[03:34] <AlmtyBob> there's no positive edge betting strategy in roulette
[03:34] <Jumpie> i was just tellin you what i normally can make if i stick with it
[03:34] <Jumpie> well..its a strategy i use...based on odds that are set
[03:34] <AlmtyBob> every single possible betting strategy is 5.26% ev
[03:34] <Jumpie> i dont claim to change the odds
[03:34] <Jumpie> but i bet i have better chance of winning more often than jo blow who keeps
[03:34] <AlmtyBob> which means over time you'll lose $0.0526 for every dollar bet
[03:34] <AlmtyBob> you can change your hit frequency
[03:35] <AlmtyBob> betting streets means you'll win more often, just less mone when you do
[03:35] <AlmtyBob> versus straight up
[03:35] <Jumpie> i have gone to a roulette table, bet $25 on the outside, 5 $5s
[03:35] <Jumpie> won 30 each time
[03:35] <Jumpie> 10x in a row
[03:35] <Jumpie> and its pretty consistant..and you dont call that a strategy that works?
[03:35] <Jumpie> i mean of course there is that chance it could hit 0 10x in a row too
[03:35] <Jumpie> but i have a better chance of hitting than i dont
[03:35] <AlmtyBob> I would not call any strategy on roulette a working strategy
[03:36] <Jumpie> i NEVER bet on specific numbers
[03:36] <AlmtyBob> the only way to win at it is with lasers and PDAs like that team in europe
[03:36] <AlmtyBob> which was frickin genius
[03:36] <Jumpie> well the money i cash out speaks for itself :D
[03:36] <Jumpie> i dont need to get techno...
[03:36] <AlmtyBob> if you're truly up, look up the odds and betting strategies somewhere, and
[03:36] <AlmtyBob> because it all evens out in the long run
[03:36] <Jumpie> which i do
[03:36] <Jumpie> typically is $100 at a table
[03:36] <Jumpie> that im up..and i leave
[03:37] <Jumpie> also...BIGGEST thing i laugh at
[03:37] <Jumpie> is when people flock to a slot that just paid otu big
[03:37] <Jumpie> normally isnt gonna pay out againf or awhile
[03:37] <AlmtyBob> makes no difference
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> a slot that just paid a jackpot is just as likely to pay that the same jac
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> they aren't waited
[03:38] <Jumpie> i know i'd never do exceptional at poker/black jack....im ok at bjbut..i don
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> there are a few computerized sidebets for table games that are weighted li
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> which is kinda restarded
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> yes that does require and ungodly attention span
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> and tolerance for boredom
[03:38] <AlmtyBob> and a huge bankroll
[03:38] <Jumpie> i just normally like to go and get a lil extra...i've rarely left the casino
[03:38] <Jumpie> yeah
[03:38] <Jumpie> takes money to win money eh :)
[03:39] <Jumpie> the craziest on the fly thing i did was...last $10 i put on boxcars in craps
[03:39] <Jumpie> and it hit
[03:39] <DJ_HaMsTa> leave at 8am; where do u work ?
[03:39] <Jumpie> 30:1 right?
[03:39] <DJ_HaMsTa> Jumpie: where do u work ?
[03:39] <Jumpie> verizon
[03:39] <DJ_HaMsTa> doin what ?
[03:39] <Jumpie> im off in 30
[03:39] <Jumpie> im an engineer for FIOS
[03:39] <AlmtyBob> playing alone, the initial bank roll for a counter to have a 96% chance to
[03:39] <DJ_HaMsTa> omg! when will they have it in harrison nj ?
[03:39] <Jumpie> we keep the network healthy, upgrade, provision, handle outages, etc
[03:39] <AlmtyBob> oh come lay some of that shit in san diego
[03:40] <AlmtyBob> goddamn palm springs bullshit 8(
[03:40] <Jumpie> well if vz isnt your local lec
[03:40] <Jumpie> it aint happenin for awhile :)
[03:40] <AlmtyBob> lec?
[03:40] <Jumpie> lemme check harrison
[03:40] <DJ_HaMsTa> they have it next town over
[03:40] <Jumpie> lec=local exchange carrier, phone company
[03:40] <AlmtyBob> gotcha
[03:40] <AlmtyBob> yah ok fucked then
[03:40] <AlmtyBob> I like cox though
[03:40] <AlmtyBob> no 30mbit, but I'm happy with my 12/1
[03:40] <Jumpie> what else is harrison near?
[03:40] <eltaco> haha yeah u do
[03:40] <DJ_HaMsTa> LOL BOB LIKES COX!!
[03:41] <Jumpie> lol
[03:41] <DJ_HaMsTa> kearny
[03:41] <Jumpie> i have 20/5
[03:41] <AlmtyBob> GAY PRIDE LETS RIDE!
[03:41] <Jumpie> i could go higher but dont need it for now
[03:41] <Jumpie> i know we have it in princeton
[03:41] <eltaco> I get cable here
[03:41] <eltaco> and they could deliver 200mbit/200mbit
[03:42] <Jumpie> what???
[03:42] <eltaco> but they're not allowed to :(
[03:42] <Jumpie> my ass
[03:42] <Jumpie> eltaco
[03:42] <Jumpie> thats bullshit
[03:42] <Jumpie> u cant get 200mbit with coax
[03:42] <eltaco> I'm in germany. we have better tech than u guys :P
[03:42] <Jumpie> coax is a standard man
[03:42] <Jumpie> i wouldnt want it on coax anyway
[03:42] <blc> actually.. with the latest signal technology in cable, you can get theoretical
[03:43] <Jumpie> i wouldnt trust it blc
[03:43] <blc> me neither, but it's possible theoretically
[03:43] <Jumpie> and most blades that cable companies use cant handle that much either
[03:43] <Jumpie> altho...oc768
[03:43] <Jumpie> is about to become funtional soon
[03:43] <Jumpie> :)
[03:43] <Jumpie> i think the standards are up to like oc3072 or somethin
[03:44] <Jumpie> thats like... a DVD a second
[03:44] <Jumpie> :P
[03:44] <blc> i'm just annoyed at the fact that they opted for cable rather than optical carr
[03:44] <Jumpie> your in SE right
[03:44] <blc> dude.. you seriously gotta lay off the grass..
[03:45] <Jumpie> or .no
[03:45] <Jumpie> lol i cant keep track of everyone on here :)
[03:45] <Jumpie> i know we just talked too...sorry
[03:45] <m33k> is there anyone here that can help with vb.net ?
[03:45] <blc> first you totally forget my friends name, then you manage to forget something i
[03:45] <Jumpie> he said his name once..and it was forieng....and i forgot to log the convo
[03:45] <Jumpie> sorry man
[03:45] <Jumpie> and i have his email
[03:46] <Jumpie> im horrible with names anyway
[03:46] <blc> just use irc nicks.. that work..
[03:46] <Jumpie> if i met you i'd alwasy remember you
[03:46] <Jumpie> but would take a fwe times workin with you to get you rname
[03:46] <blc> but still.. i'm amazed at your memory capacity.. :P
[03:46] <Jumpie> its terribly annoying..i have bad adhd
[03:46] <Jumpie> i ahve incredible memory blc
[03:46] <Jumpie> jsut long term :)
[03:46] <Jumpie> i remember meals when i was 3
[03:46] <Jumpie> but cant remember what my wife asked me to get at store 5 mins ago
[03:46] <blc> heh
[03:46] <Jumpie> dad is same way
[03:46] <AlmtyBob> Jumpie: if you go to somewhat large casinos and really want to make out, l
[03:46] <Jumpie> so dont take it as offense..same with your friend hopefully
[03:47] <AlmtyBob> and coupon use
[03:47] <Jumpie> AlmtyBob ya but
[03:47] <blc> m33k: doesn't look like it.. you might wanna try again in 5 hours
[03:47] <Jumpie> alot of that is based on how much u spend righgt?
[03:47] <AlmtyBob> not really
[03:47] <m33k> thx blc
[03:47] <Jumpie> i got a $90/night hotel for free once..thats the best i ever got :P
[03:47] <AlmtyBob> the whole point of hustling is not spending anything (or very little) and
[03:47] <Jumpie> how? they track it all
[03:47] <AlmtyBob> it's about exploiting egos/beuaracracy/laziness
[03:48] <AlmtyBob> true but there's always exceptions
[03:48] <AlmtyBob> and in every casino hosts and floor people (pit bosses) have override
[03:48] <AlmtyBob> I'll give you an example
[03:48] <Jumpie> but how would lil old non high roller like me ever get anything
[03:48] <Jumpie> sorry im a bit delayed
[03:49] <AlmtyBob> a consultant that works for us took us to vegas, to show off his comp skil
[03:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[03:49] <Jumpie> yes..the one all the asian guys are at
[03:49] <Jumpie> lol
[03:49] <AlmtyBob> right afterwards my buddy comes in and buys in, consultant plays bank for
[03:50] <Thriva> fuking smart
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> they play 2 hands and consultant says to the floor, "hey I need to go eat,
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> "oh can you comp my wife, kid, and I?"
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> this is the bellagio btw
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> "ok fine" and he writes him up a comp
[03:50] <Jumpie> comp for what?
[03:50] <Jumpie> meal?
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> so him, buddy, me, and FIVE other of us go to the cafe
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> yah
[03:50] <Jumpie> nice
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> full food liquor
[03:50] <AlmtyBob> so there's 8 of us a 3 person comp
[03:50] <Jumpie> ownage
[03:51] <AlmtyBob> consultant says to the server "this must be a mistake, it should be for 8"
[03:51] <AlmtyBob> 30 seconds later "ok you're good for 8"
[03:51] <Jumpie> hah
[03:51] <Jumpie> myl uck they'd escort me out
[03:51] <AlmtyBob> consultant knows the F&B workers are nearing a strike so he chats up the s
[03:51] <Jumpie> so you kinda play their egos too eh
[03:51] <AlmtyBob> she brings us EVERY appetizer and keeps the drinks coming
[03:51] <Jumpie> lol
[03:51] <AlmtyBob> tons of food, we're there for 2 hours
[03:52] <AlmtyBob> $800 bill
[03:52] <Jumpie> what!
[03:52] <AlmtyBob> for $20 worth of commission paid on the 2 winning bank bets
[03:52] <Jumpie> 100per lol
[03:52] <AlmtyBob> he walks back into the parlor, picks up his chips and leaves
[03:52] <Jumpie> so he laid down the 2 grand
[03:52] <Jumpie> but never used nearly all of it
[03:52] <AlmtyBob> that's just one of hundreds of types of tricks you can pull
[03:52] <AlmtyBob> yah, he spent a whopping $20
[03:52] <Jumpie> hahaha
[03:52] <AlmtyBob> you can also exploit shift changes really well too
[03:52] <Jumpie> thats nice
[03:53] <Jumpie> it throws me off sometimes tho..maybe i need to overcome it...i get nervous
[03:53] <AlmtyBob> get a comp on one shift, 20 minutes later at 8pm the shift turns over, go
[03:53] <AlmtyBob> the new floor will argue for a minute but will always give in, boom, super
[03:54] <AlmtyBob> no such thing as bad luck dealers 8)
[03:54] <Jumpie> lol
[03:54] <Jumpie> i know
[03:54] <Jumpie> but if you THINK it is
[03:54] <Jumpie> it can throw you off mentally
[03:54] <Jumpie> which it does
[03:54] <AlmtyBob> when I used to be on the floor I'd write a comp for almost anyone for anyt
[03:54] <AlmtyBob> as long as they hadn't already been comped the same thing that day, play o
[03:54] <Jumpie> i normally had no problem with food
[03:54] <AlmtyBob> becuase I'm lazy
[03:54] <Jumpie> biut hotels was harder
[03:55] <AlmtyBob> there's a copule books on comp hustling, should check them out sometimes
[03:55] <AlmtyBob> and couponomy if you go to vegas, where you get free/cheap coupon books an
[03:55] <Jumpie> cool
[03:55] <AlmtyBob> did that once, it was a goddamned blast
[03:55] <Jumpie> ever been to tunica?
[03:56] <AlmtyBob> no, know a lot of people that worked out there though
[03:56] <Jumpie> i could have sworn a craps table was rigged
[03:56] <Jumpie> whenever more than 5 rolls of point was rolled
[03:56] <Jumpie> TO THE T
[03:56] <Jumpie> 7 was rolled
[03:56] <Jumpie> this happened over an hour
[03:56] <AlmtyBob> the bottom line about rigging is this
[03:56] <AlmtyBob> casinos are so insanely profitable int he first place
[03:57] <Jumpie> even if its not rigged it makes people think it is
[03:57] <AlmtyBob> and the gaming commissions are so strict
[03:57] <AlmtyBob> it's just not worth it
[03:57] <Jumpie> ya..i gotta get into the casino ownership business :D
[03:57] <AlmtyBob> not to mention
[03:57] <AlmtyBob> table games means shit to a casino
[03:57] <AlmtyBob> the income ratio is usally 80% slot, 15% outlets, 5% table games
[03:57] <AlmtyBob> my casino is way above average and we're 70/30 slot tables
[03:58] <AlmtyBob> err should say profit, not income
[03:58] <Jumpie> really??
[03:58] <AlmtyBob> yes.
[03:58] <Jumpie> youre sayin most people chill on slots?
[03:58] <Jumpie> its so...mundane
[03:58] <AlmtyBob> well it's not just that
[03:58] <Jumpie> i won $2000 in nickels once
[03:58] <AlmtyBob> but think about this
[03:58] <Jumpie> thats the most
[03:58] * Jumpie puts AlmtyBob on his notify list :)
[03:58] <AlmtyBob> a slot takes up maybe what? 15sqft per person?
[03:58] <Jumpie> if that
[03:58] <Jumpie> yeah
[03:58] <AlmtyBob> requires extremely little maintenance
[03:59] <AlmtyBob> and very little staffing
[03:59] <Jumpie> ya but i thought in these days...people are more skeptical due to paranoia o
[03:59] <AlmtyBob> so after the initial purchase, a machine is almost all profit
[03:59] <Jumpie> casinos can say all day LONG 'oh no its not'
[03:59] <Jumpie> but you cant scrutinize a computer like u can a human
[03:59] <Jumpie> one of the reasons i dont slot much
[03:59] <AlmtyBob> table games players are more skeptical than slots players by a long run 8)
[03:59] <Jumpie> and i know a guy that worked for a slot manuf and he said is very MUCH SI ri
[03:59] <AlmtyBob> slots players are just more superstitious
[03:59] <Jumpie> algorithms and stuff
[04:00] <AlmtyBob> it's not so much rigged as just the odds are just very bad
[04:00] <AlmtyBob> but there's a company called GLI
[04:00] <Jumpie> but there is a formula right? like...how much $ went into it..how long you w
[04:00] <Jumpie> position of machine in relation to traffic patterns in the casino
[04:00] <AlmtyBob> they're an independant company that does nothing but verify slot machines
[04:00] <AlmtyBob> and GLI approval is required almost everywhere in the US
[04:00] <Jumpie> and whos to say they arent in the casinos back pocket?
[04:00] <Jumpie> sory i just dont trust anythin casino
[04:00] <AlmtyBob> they aren't.
[04:00] <Jumpie> commission are ther eto look like they care
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> I mean you might not trust ME, but I know for a fact they aren't
[04:01] <Jumpie> how?
[04:01] <Jumpie> are you senior exec?
[04:01] <Jumpie> im not tryin to bust your bals
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> upper-middle
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> yah I understand
[04:01] <Jumpie> im just saying..maybe you are all handed a bunch of crap
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> because my job is working with vendors and gli
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> GLI also governs table games
[04:01] <Jumpie> ill talk to you a lil later i gotat go off shift :)
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> and everything else gaming related in a casino
[04:01] <Jumpie> be home in 10 mins
[04:01] <AlmtyBob> oh and one thing
[04:02] <Jumpie> ya
[04:02] <AlmtyBob> well it'll take 1 min to explain
[04:02] <AlmtyBob> the slots in high traffic areas
[04:02] <AlmtyBob> have a high hit frequency
[04:02] <AlmtyBob> meaning they pay out more OFTEN, but less AMOUNT of money
[04:02] <Jumpie> yea...but lower level jackpots
[04:02] <Jumpie> right
[04:02] <AlmtyBob> so as you walk by, people are always winning small ammounts and the machin
[04:02] <AlmtyBob> but that's about it
[04:02] <Jumpie> thats why i heard the ones deeper inth e room are more likely
[04:03] <Jumpie> but hey i gotta go
[04:03] <AlmtyBob> k
[04:03] <Jumpie> ill be back soon..thanks for your tips
[04:19] <Chura> guys, i need a good cd cover printing app, any1 can say ?
[04:25] <Jumpie> back
[04:31] <dealt> okay
[04:31] <AlmtyBob> ¿
[04:31] <dealt> i installed successfully the codec to the camcorder
[04:31] <dealt> yay
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> I hate codecs
[04:32] <dealt> who runs on 64 vista???
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> writing a little script to help me convert shit for my ipod
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> it's a pain in the ass
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> C:\Program Files\MPlayer\mencoder " & args.Item(0) & " -sws 9 -of lavf -la
[04:32] <dealt> what advantages does 64 vista have over 32 bit vista?////?//
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> that's the command line for ONE PASS of the converter (out of 2)
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> not much
[04:32] <AlmtyBob> uninstall the 32 bit ver
[04:33] <AlmtyBob> and install XP
[04:33] <dealt> i just came back from a foreign country where there's an imitiation ipod with
[04:33] <dealt> cost 30 bucks
[04:33] <dealt> 1 gig
[04:33] <AlmtyBob> heh
[04:33] <AlmtyBob> cool
[04:33] <AlmtyBob> probably more compatibility than apple's
[04:34] <dealt> the internal speaker kicks ass, its weak, but u can jam your tunes without he
[04:34] <dealt> made in china
[04:34] <dealt> of course
[04:35] <blc> dealt: the biggest advantage with 64 bit is it's ability to adress MUCH more th
[04:35] <dealt> oh
[04:35] <dealt> okay
[04:35] <Jumpie> dealt link?
[04:35] <Jumpie> :D
[04:35] <AlmtyBob> (than 2gigs)
[04:35] <dealt> i only deal with 2 gigs of ram, so i guess im okay with a 32 bit
[04:35] <blc> dealt: yes
[04:36] <Jumpie> yea this isssue is why we have to have 3 servers for our database
[04:36] <Jumpie> cause im not doing vista yet
[04:36] <AlmtyBob> and by yet you mean ever?
[04:36] <dealt> jumpie, i dont have a link for this imitation ipod
[04:36] <Jumpie> k
[04:36] <Jumpie> is there a brand o rmodel tho?
[04:36] <dealt> it cool though, the lcd screen is in color
[04:37] <dealt> ill find out more, i see you on irc all the time, so ill let u know when i fi
[04:38] <AlmtyBob> oh kill me
[04:38] <AlmtyBob> you can't add a shell menu item for .vbs scripts
[04:38] <AlmtyBob> but you can for .bat's
[04:39] <AlmtyBob> gay.
[04:39] <Jumpie> k
[04:39] <AlmtyBob> there's an hour of work in the shitter
[04:39] <Jumpie> who says?
[04:39] <Jumpie> u just gotta do a lil reg hacking
[04:39] <AlmtyBob> says windows
[04:39] <Jumpie> :)
[04:39] <Jumpie> i can right click on a text file and have it say "Jumpie" instead of copy
[04:39] <Jumpie> but its not traditional methods
[04:40] <AlmtyBob> I'm adding an item
[04:40] <AlmtyBob> err an Action to a file type
[04:40] <AlmtyBob> that should do "C:\blah\blah.vbs" %1
[04:40] <AlmtyBob> but it says "program not found"
[04:40] <AlmtyBob> even though I know the path is correct
[04:41] <Jumpie> how are you doing this?
[04:41] <Jumpie> in regedit?
[04:41] <Jumpie> maybe i gotta scroll up..didnt quite get all what your tryin to do this for
[04:42] <AlmtyBob> explorer: tools -> folder options -> file types -> click extensio
[04:42] <Jumpie> ah
[04:42] <AlmtyBob> err -new + Advanced -> New
[04:42] <Jumpie> and the anticipated outcome?
[04:42] <AlmtyBob> so when I right click an avi it'll give me a "Convert for Ipod" option and
[04:42] <Jumpie> aah
[04:42] <Jumpie> thats what i wanted to know
[04:44] <AlmtyBob> wonder if there's a quick .vbs compiler
[04:44] <Jumpie> im kinda bummed cause i just spent 2 months on a program in vb.net using 2.1
[04:44] <Jumpie> and it was for work..and stupid admins rolled back to 1.1
[04:44] <Jumpie> for compatability purposes
[04:45] <AlmtyBob> http://www.hiddensoft.com./
[04:45] <AlmtyBob> w00t
[04:45] <AlmtyBob> oh wait, that's not a vbs compiler
[04:45] <Jumpie> lol
[04:45] <Jumpie> so you're tying the action 'convert for ipod'
[04:46] <Jumpie> to point to c:\blah\blah.vbs %1(filename variable)
[04:46] <Jumpie> butr when you select the file..it immediately says file not found?
[04:46] <Jumpie> you may have to do it as "run c:\...."
[04:46] <Jumpie> or "start...."
[04:46] <AlmtyBob> err
[04:46] <AlmtyBob> it won't let me set the action
[04:47] <AlmtyBob> as soon as I hit OK to add the action, it says program not found
[04:47] <AlmtyBob> it's never running the script
[04:47] <Jumpie> right what im saying is
[04:47] <Jumpie> instead of selecting file
[04:47] <Jumpie> in the path make it say run or start and the full path'
[04:47] <Jumpie> i know ou gotta do that with batch files sometimes..just an idea
[04:48] <Jumpie> ill even test on a vbs file on my pc
[04:48] <AlmtyBob> nope
[04:48] <AlmtyBob> but I know what you're getting at
[04:48] <Jumpie> k
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> there should be an executable interpretor somewhere
[04:49] <Jumpie> hmm u must have older vbs file
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> but apparently it's not "run" or "start"
[04:49] <Jumpie> i have .net 2005
[04:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> just made it in notepad
[04:49] <Jumpie> al i have is .vb but ill try that
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> 10 mins ago
[04:49] <Jumpie> ah k
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> and I don't have visual studio
[04:49] <Jumpie> ooooh
[04:49] <Jumpie> nono
[04:49] <Jumpie> that wont work man
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> so I might not have the interpretor
[04:49] <Jumpie> you dont get a default vb interpreter with windows shell :)
[04:49] <AlmtyBob> windows scripting host
[04:50] <Jumpie> stil
[04:50] <Jumpie> i dont think it'l work
[04:50] <AlmtyBob> if there's an executable for it somewhere
[04:50] <Jumpie> see like for me
[04:51] <Jumpie> it'd point it to vb.exe file.vbs %1
[04:51] <Jumpie> if you dont ahve that....it doesnt know how to parse vbs even though your us
[04:51] <AlmtyBob> dude found it
[04:51] <AlmtyBob> I think
[04:51] <Jumpie> i'd slap my left nut if you have it
[04:51] <Jumpie> :)
[04:51] <AlmtyBob> wscript.ex
[04:51] <AlmtyBob> e
[04:51] <AlmtyBob> go fig
[04:52] <Jumpie> if its that simple man...why would anyone buy vb 2008 or vb6
[04:52] <Jumpie> you telling me i had a vb compiler this whole time
[04:52] <AlmtyBob> it doesn't compile it
[04:52] <AlmtyBob> but it interprets it
[04:52] <AlmtyBob> which is what I need
[04:53] <AlmtyBob> so I can feed an exe (wscript) to the add action thing for a file extensio
[04:53] <Jumpie> there ya go
[04:53] <Jumpie> and patch of your file
[04:53] <Jumpie> wel
[04:53] * Jumpie slaps his left nut
[04:53] <Jumpie> >:
[04:54] <AlmtyBob> k time to try it out
[04:54] <blc> "flavor of the month man.. maple not crunch"
[04:54] <AlmtyBob> this will rock if it works
[04:54] <AlmtyBob> kinda
[04:54] <Jumpie> yeah man
[04:54] <Jumpie> cause you can pass all sortsa stuff
[04:54] <Jumpie> just seems too easy heh
[04:54] <Jumpie> blc...making me hungry
[04:55] <AlmtyBob> oh goddamnit
[04:55] <AlmtyBob> didnt' parse out spaces
[04:55] <blc> Jumpie: i was quoting Denis Leary
[04:55] <AlmtyBob> or something like that
[04:55] <Jumpie> lol
[04:55] <Illnatic> could a damaged video card be the cause of a blue screen of death problem
[04:55] <AlmtyBob> yes, though somewhat unlikely
[04:55] <AlmtyBob> happens during games mostly?
[04:55] <blc> Illnatic: if it's that driver the bsod is referencing, yes
[04:56] <AlmtyBob> my perfectly healthy video card bsod's when I run two copies of wow, becau
[04:56] <Jumpie> i get alot of generic host process 32 errors
[04:56] <AlmtyBob> but EVERYTHING else works perfectly fine 100% of the time
[04:56] <Jumpie> but nothin seems to happen or disconnect me when i ack konwledge
[04:56] <Jumpie> or could be cause i set service termination behavior to restart :P
[04:57] <Jumpie> maybe thats why my vnc keeps d/c
[04:57] <blc> heh
[04:57] * blc notices the candle that lit over Jumpie's head just now
[04:57] <Illnatic> i installed a videocard driver update today. Then my computer started lock
[04:57] <Jumpie> AlmtyBob thats strange .unless its really old i wouldnt expect wow to make i
[04:57] <Jumpie> lol blc
[04:57] <Jumpie> oh man
[04:57] <AlmtyBob> it's brand new
[04:58] <AlmtyBob> gt(smth) 8800
[04:58] <Jumpie> do you have an onboard video
[04:58] <blc> Illnatic: did you happen to notice which file caused the bsod?
[04:58] <AlmtyBob> nope
[04:58] <AlmtyBob> and it's ONLY with two copies of wow running
[04:58] <blc> and yes, they all say which file crashed it
[04:58] <AlmtyBob> one copy of wow = fine, 8 hour crysis marathon = fine
[04:58] <Illnatic> well, the message was page_fault_in_nonpaged_area
[04:58] <Illnatic> somewhat
[04:58] <Jumpie> blc.......i was thinkin totttaly wiping the device away and it'd load up wit
[04:58] <Jumpie> oh...thats memory
[04:59] <AlmtyBob> doesn't necesarily mean bad memory
[04:59] <Jumpie> at least a memory related error
[04:59] <Jumpie> or somethin causing it to terminate while mem i/o
[04:59] <blc> it's referring to a error in mem caused by a file
[04:59] <AlmtyBob> and given the new update, it's extremely unlikely there was a random failu
[04:59] <blc> which means.. you didn't read the entire bsod
[04:59] <Jumpie> lol all that hex :)
[04:59] <AlmtyBob> nah
[04:59] <blc> no hex
[04:59] <AlmtyBob> about 2/3rds down is what you want
[04:59] <AlmtyBob> iirc
[04:59] <Jumpie> oh yes.its a filename right
[05:00] <AlmtyBob> the driver file causing the issue
[05:00] <blc> general text for the most part, but on the lowest part of the screen, it tells
[05:00] <Jumpie> cant he also enable bot logging on safe mopde and reboot?
[05:00] <blc> dunno, but it' s not that hard to get a filename out.. i managed to teach my 60
[05:01] <AlmtyBob> you can stop it from auto rebooting on bsod too
[05:01] <AlmtyBob> forget how
[05:01] <Jumpie> cmos?
[05:01] <AlmtyBob> if you need time to read
[05:01] <AlmtyBob> nah
[05:01] <AlmtyBob> it's a windows thing
[05:01] <Jumpie> oh..cause i remember cmos sayin somethin about system halt berhavior
[05:02] <Illnatic> i am upset they released a driver which has screwed this computer up
[05:02] <Jumpie> and you said you tottaly rolled back and same thing?
[05:02] <Jumpie> somethin residual
[05:02] <Illnatic> yeah i rolled back 3 days ago
[05:02] <Illnatic> and THEN got the bsod
[05:02] <Jumpie> u could probably find some reg keys but it may be cryptic
[05:02] <Illnatic> before that it was just locking up
[05:02] <Jumpie> in the hardware
[05:02] <Jumpie> but u can mes stuff up bad there lol
[05:03] <Illnatic> oh i am ready to smash this turd of a computer
[05:03] <Jumpie> try what blc said first
[05:03] <AlmtyBob> are you on that pc now?
[05:03] <Jumpie> try to narrow it down first in plain english...if its more elusive come back
[05:03] <AlmtyBob> the one that'd bsod'd?
[05:03] <Jumpie> its just in windows dir probably too
[05:03] <Illnatic> yes
[05:03] <Jumpie> in safe mode? :P
[05:03] <Illnatic> i uninstalled ALL video drivers and it runs ok
[05:03] <Jumpie> 16 color mirc!
[05:03] <Illnatic> just bad looking video
[05:04] <AlmtyBob> well try this
[05:04] <Illnatic> like standard video card
[05:04] <AlmtyBob> shutdown your pc all the way
[05:04] <AlmtyBob> cold boot, download the newest safe drivers
[05:04] <AlmtyBob> and try again
[05:04] <AlmtyBob> it was probably a one-off corrupted driver file
[05:05] <Illnatic> not to be retarded but what do u mean cold boot
[05:05] <blc> shut off, wait 5 seconds, start up
[05:05] <Illnatic> ok. thanks will do
[05:12] <Illnatic> brb
[05:14] <MattTS> Can XP 32bit support 4GB RAM? It should be able to address it but I don't kn
[05:14] <AlmtyBob> no
[05:14] <blc> it reserves a portion for PCI adressing, so no
[05:14] <AlmtyBob> isn't the upper limit on 32bit 2gb?
[05:14] <blc> no
[05:15] <blc> the upper limit is 4, but due to PCI adressing you get to see about 3,5 GB
[05:15] * kiss161|a is now known as kiss161
[05:16] <AlmtyBob> ah
[05:16] <AlmtyBob> oh god I hate windows scripting host sometimes
[05:16] <AlmtyBob> couldn't figure out for the life of me why this wasn't working
[05:16] <AlmtyBob> turns out WSH.run doesn't accept long path/file names
[05:17] <AlmtyBob> so I needed "C:\Progra~1\..."
[05:17] <AlmtyBob> worst thing to debug (in a scripting language) EVER
[05:17] <blc> you obviously haven't coded anything in tcl i see
[05:18] <AlmtyBob> haha no
[05:18] <MattTS> blc, thanks.
[05:18] <blc> MattTS: np
[05:18] <AlmtyBob> actually I imagine perl could have some hard to find bugs too
[05:18] <blc> yes, but perl is easier to debug than tcl
[05:19] <blc> when tcl barfs, it tells you where it barfed.. not what caused it
[05:19] <AlmtyBob> oh shit, think this is actually working
[05:20] <AlmtyBob> hmm, well almost kidna worked
[05:21] * kiss161 is now known as kiss161|a
[05:21] <AlmtyBob> oh HELL yes, there we go
[05:21] <AlmtyBob> I can now right click any .avi and convert it for my ipod
[05:22] <AlmtyBob> btw, computers suck if it took that much effort just to get that functiona
[05:22] <AlmtyBob> gotta work hard for my porn 8(
[05:35] <Ghostwolf> what's a very tatical shooter to play that's more up to date then swat &
[05:37] <blc> ghost recon advanced warfighter 1 and 2
[05:39] <AceJack> i did a cold boot and tried to install some older stable drivers. gave me
[05:39] <AceJack> now i am in safe mode
[05:40] <AceJack> this cant be fixed... ati's crap driver has destroyed my video card
[05:40] <AceJack> i have tried uninstalling it at least 10 times, installing at least 10 vers
[05:40] <Ghostwolf> blc: they're not very tactical
[05:40] <Ghostwolf> I have 2 installe
[05:40] <Ghostwolf> d
[05:41] <Ghostwolf> I'm thinking where you have to plan almost every move
[05:41] <blc> Ghostwolf: more tactical than swat imo.. but whatever floats your boat
[05:41] <Ghostwolf> graw2 I pretty much run the level myself with a sniper rifle
[05:41] <blc> AceJack: i have no idea
[05:41] <Ghostwolf> I find swat more tactical... you have to have your squad mates storm door
[05:41] <AceJack> i will probably end up buying a new video card (not ati) and smashing this
[05:42] <AceJack> thanks for you help though guys
[05:42] <blc> heh
[05:42] <blc> anytime
[05:42] <blc> Ghostwolf: i found graw1 to be more challenging than graw2 though..
[05:44] <Ghostwolf> ya that's true
[05:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[05:52] <AceJack> one last question, how do i set up my computer with a standard VGA adapter
[05:53] <AceJack> vga driver i mean
[05:53] <AceJack> it keeps automatically setting it to radeon
[05:54] <Ghostwolf> just remove all the ati drivers
[05:54] <belter> out of the box does OSX have ssh / sftp enabled ?
[05:54] <Ghostwolf> windows xp will install the vga adapter when it can't find a video driver
[05:54] <AceJack> o man this must mean i am not fully removing the radeon driver
[05:54] <AceJack> cause it keeps setting it back
[05:55] <AceJack> it detects it even when i click cancel on the new hardware found screens
[05:57] <AceJack> ok brb
[06:07] <Moksi> hello
[06:08] <Moksi> i want my keyboard to enable pressing more than three buttons at the same tim
[06:09] <AlmtyBob> get a usb keyboard
[06:09] <AlmtyBob> it's a limitation of the PS/2 port
[06:10] <Moksi> ok so theres nothing i can do about it with the standard keyboard
[06:10] <AlmtyBob> no, not that I'm aware of
[06:10] <AlmtyBob> oh wait
[06:10] <will`> heh does that affect ALL ps/2 keyboards?
[06:10] <AlmtyBob> maybe it's not the ps/2 port, maybe it's the matrix they use to determine
[06:10] <AlmtyBob> yah think it's the matrix
[06:10] <AlmtyBob> now I'm curious
[06:11] <will`> ...matrix..?
[06:11] <Moksi> now im confused
[06:11] <AlmtyBob> http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/
[06:13] <will`> hax
[06:13] <antr4xx> hi
[06:14] <antr4xx> i am trying to learn something about IRC
[06:14] <Moksi> so only with usb keyboards you can press more than three buttons simultaneous
[06:14] <AlmtyBob> honestly I'm not sure anymore
[06:14] <antr4xx> do you have a reference for all commands?
[06:15] <AlmtyBob> http://www.jegsworks.com/project/refirc/irccommands.htm
[06:15] <antr4xx> thank you, i am gonna print it out...
[06:15] <antr4xx> i saw the list, is that really all?
[06:17] <antr4xx> one time, i want to code my own IRC bot...
[06:17] * kinpmp is now known as kingpimp
[06:17] <antr4xx> have u got any ideas for so?
[06:18] <AlmtyBob> yah, don't
[06:18] <antr4xx> why not?
[06:18] <AlmtyBob> it's extremely difficult, it'll get you banned from many servers while you
[06:19] <antr4xx> but i find it really interesting...
[06:19] <antr4xx> an i can test on my own PC...
[06:19] <AlmtyBob> you need to read the RFC for irc
[06:20] <antr4xx> until now, i' ve only written webdownloaders and keyloggers and RAT's
[06:20] <antr4xx> yeah, i know, i am gonna start tomorrow, but it seems a bit difficult to me
[06:20] <AlmtyBob> http://www.invlogic.com/irc/rfc1459_00.html
[06:21] <AlmtyBob> if you're a confident programmer, it's not that difficult at all
[06:21] <AlmtyBob> competant socket programmer anyways
[06:21] <AlmtyBob> I'm not
[06:21] <AlmtyBob> so I wouldn't know where to begin
[06:21] <AlmtyBob> but the protocol itself is pretty easy
[06:22] <Jumpie> heh AlmtyBob
[06:22] <Jumpie> sup still here
[06:22] <antr4xx> but it is pretty much, and i am not that good, i began coding a year ago, a
[06:22] <Ghostwolf> anyone got call of duty 4 installed & patched to 1.04?
[06:23] <Jumpie> Ghostwolf is that game worth the buy
[06:24] <Ghostwolf> not for single player no
[06:24] <Ghostwolf> however my clan mate been raving about multiplayer so I grabbed it but ha
[06:24] <Ghostwolf> the call of duty 2 sinple player was much better
[06:25] <Ghostwolf> however it does look good
[06:25] <Jumpie> cool
[06:25] <Jumpie> it just seems alot of that stuff seems overplayed
[06:25] <Jumpie> same old diff title
[06:26] <Jumpie> im so spoiled to one main fps (unreal series) that any other one has to real
[06:26] <Jumpie> one being projectoffset.com
[06:26] <Ghostwolf> ya that looks interesting
[06:26] <Ghostwolf> can't wait till they do a beta
[06:30] <AlmtyBob> oh anyone know why once in a while my second core in dual-core amd goes to
[06:30] <AlmtyBob> while my first car is normal/idle?
[06:30] <AlmtyBob> my second core is just going to stay at 100% now until I reboot
[06:44] <ddvert> whats a good site to use for domain service/e-mails
[06:45] <dealt> heh, no audio output device is installed in vista means i didnt plug in the j
[06:46] <dealt> it has a sensor to tell you if you have speakers plugged in or not
[06:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[06:54] <ddvert> whats a good site to use for domain service/e-mails
[06:56] <Yoisers> what is ctfmon.exe? does mirc need it
[06:57] * WeirdBudd is now known as FullMinus
[06:59] <Ghostwolf> no mirc does not need it
[07:06] * ttol_ is now known as ttol-
[07:12] <Sculptor> friday!
[07:13] <Ghostwolf> ugh
[07:28] <gheatza> Microsoft ActiveSync can't find my Mio C320
[07:28] <gheatza> why's that ?
[07:30] <Darn> its not plugged in
[07:31] <gheatza> it is :P
[07:31] <gheatza> i tried 2 different usb ports
[07:31] <Mer|in> hey i'm looking for a tool that tells me how much data is being transferred
[07:32] <Mer|in> i'm not really concerned with monitoring per se, mostly with the amount of d
[07:33] <pixil> Mer|in: I'd start with netstat, but -e (as far as I know) only shows you nic
[07:34] <pixil> Then I'd go to goole and try a search like: windows ~network ~statistic ~free
[07:35] <Mer|in> yeah i don't think i can use netstat for this
[07:36] <Mer|in> wouldn't be nearly as hard if i had lunix
[07:44] <rhelic> Mercer5: CureInfo is an easy way to see how much data you're upload/download
[07:45] <rhelic> http://cheber.com/cureinfo.htm
[07:46] <rhelic> there's a screenshot, and a link to the last version you'd want (v3 aka .41
[07:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[07:49] <gopp> what a good website to looking for bussiness for sales?
[07:50] <compdoc> thats a local thing. dont think theres just one
[07:52] <rhelic> yuppers
[07:52] <rhelic> any a biz for sale, usually isn't worth buying
[07:52] <compdoc> heh
[07:55] <gopp> rhelic so what is worth buying
[07:55] <compdoc> something you have a talent for
[07:56] <gopp> lol
[07:56] <compdoc> lots of time, youre really just buying the name, or the customer list
[07:56] <rhelic> a biz that's already successful
[07:56] <compdoc> Ive seen lots of ppl get ripped off
[07:56] <rhelic> obviously, any biz that is selling itself, isn't working
[07:57] <compdoc> make sure you know what youre getting
[07:57] <rhelic> becuz if it worked well, they wouldn't sell
[07:57] <compdoc> thats not true
[07:58] <rhelic> there's a reason why big business only buys companies that aren't for sale
[07:58] <gopp> rhelic not always true
[07:58] <gopp> some times they sell, becuase people want to retire
[07:59] <rhelic> well if it's that successfull, somebody in the family would pick it up
[07:59] <rhelic> dude if I could make $100k/yr pocket, managing and cooking hot dogs, I would
[08:00] <rhelic> if my dad or uncle was to retire, I'd quit my office job and cook hot dogs
[08:00] <rhelic> anyways, any biz you buy that has real value, you have to pay way beyond the
[08:01] <rhelic> if the biz make $100k/yr profit, you're gonna pay more than $500k + value of
[08:01] <rhelic> it's not like you can buy z biz and turn a profit in a year or two
[08:01] <rhelic> which I'm betting $20 that's what he's thinking
[08:05] <compdoc> you risk taker, you
[08:05] * ASk-- is now known as ASk
[08:06] <gopp> rhelic how do you know so much about bussiness
[08:07] <compdoc> he's worked for several
[08:07] <gopp> oh
[08:08] <compdoc> and they keep firing him :)
[08:08] <gopp> ahh
[08:10] <Yoisers> is surname the first name?
[08:11] <Star_Fire> yoi: last name
[08:11] <Yoisers> thanks
[08:11] <Star_Fire> first name = given name
[08:16] * FullMinus is now known as FulMinus
[08:16] * FulMinus is now known as FullMinus
[08:19] <oHELPo> daw nine ten len root soot / R + battery = can tuna / store mad 10000000,00
[08:28] * FullMinus is now known as Fat_Cow
[08:28] * Fat_Cow is now known as FullMinus
[08:34] <Mer|in> found what i need - windump
[08:35] <Mer|in> rhelic: curinfo uses perfmon - which also doesn't show host-specific info
[08:35] <preventio> how can i get a computer with windows 98 to recognize a 250gb hard drive
[08:35] <Mer|in> rhelic: thanks though
[08:36] <Mer|in> preventio: in the old days (the 90s) we used an overlay for the drive
[08:36] <Mer|in> but that was for large (4GB) drives - not enormous ( > 20GB ) drives
[08:37] <Yoisers> anyone know how to view facebook friends that are always expanded? instead
[08:37] <preventio> mer
[08:37] <preventio> mer|in so there's no way now?
[08:37] <Mer|in> don't know how much of that stuff has changed since the end of the 20th cent
[08:38] <preventio> i just need to get a few files off it
[08:39] <preventio> i have it plugged into a usb port in an external casing and it says its w
[08:39] <deadmanwa> hi
[08:39] <compdoc> I dont think its 98's problem
[08:40] <preventio> the hard drive that 98 is on is 40gb
[08:42] <preventio> based on that it should work
[08:42] <godfist> hrm
[08:42] <Yoisers> anyone know how to view facebook friends that are always expanded? instead
[08:42] <compdoc> whats the 40g have to do with it?
[08:43] <preventio> well its a large capacity hard drive
[08:43] <godfist> i got a question...i've just upgraded mirc to v6.31 and there's this new li
[08:43] <godfist> how do i get rid of that window?
[08:43] <godfist> its annoying :/
[08:43] <compdoc> so youre saying the mobo bios should recognize it? does it?
[08:45] <rhelic> preventio: sometimes there are just real limitations, it's not like a switch
[08:46] <hackzill> where is Fujifilm dvd's made ?
[08:46] <rhelic> hackzill: stick in a disc and run a DVD identifier app
[08:46] <preventio> hello
[08:47] <preventio> all i know is in device manager it says the device is working properly
[08:47] <rhelic> preventio: sometimes there are just real limitations, it's not like a switch
[08:47] <preventio> hello
[08:47] <hackzill> rhelic, i don't want to buy them tho
[08:48] <hackzill> unless i know where there made
[08:48] <rhelic> preventio: the Win98 limit is 32gb, you've already maxed it out by being abl
[08:48] <rhelic> hackzill: well then you need somebody who has them and can run an identifier
[08:48] <hackzill> could you go a Fujifilm site
[08:48] <hackzill> and find out?
[08:48] <hackzill> would it say?
[08:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[08:49] <ASk> rhelic: 32*3 + (32*4) in the simple case, 32*3 + (32*3 + (32*3 + ... + (32 * 4)
[08:49] <rhelic> preventio: hmm they claims to have a working 48bit LBA for Win98 http://www
[08:49] <preventio> rhelic: what if i install it inside the tower?
[08:50] <rhelic> preventio: ok now you're not thinking at all
[08:50] <rhelic> it has nothing to do with USB
[08:51] <preventio> is this link a fix that will allow it
[08:52] <rhelic> preventio: try reading
[08:53] <preventio> im trying
[08:55] * FullMinus is now known as Overeat
[08:55] * Overeat is now known as FullMinus
[08:56] <preventio> i'll try instaling this i guess
[08:57] <preventio> not sure what i'm doing exactly
[08:58] <rhelic> preventio: make sure you install the correct one
[08:59] <preventio> this says to copy the file to the windows partition
[08:59] <rhelic> did you get the Win98SE one?
[08:59] <preventio> 2006-07-29 20:05 Win98SE version (4.10.2226) released - only for replacin
[08:59] <gonzorob> this a good # for html help ?
[08:59] <preventio> that's the one i got. i assume its the right one because its the only win
[09:00] <preventio> yeah i got it
[09:00] <gonzorob> if not, suggestions (aside from #html - everyone is asleep) ?
[09:00] <rhelic> gonzorob: #html or #webdesign
[09:00] <preventio> esdi_506.pdr file is inside it
[09:00] <preventio> it says to copy this to the windows partiion
[09:01] <preventio> is that c:\windows\iosubsys
[09:01] <rhelic> gonzorob: just ask
[09:02] <compdoc> the fdisk that comes with win ME is supposed to be updated and work better
[09:02] <rhelic> compdoc: yes, he's already gotten his fdisk updated via uSP2
[09:03] <preventio> i located the original file in several places
[09:04] <preventio> c:\windows\system\iosubsys, c:\windows\vcm, c:\windows\options\cabs
[09:04] <compdoc> MS was stupid not to support lage fat drives in XP
[09:04] <compdoc> large
[09:04] <rhelic> I agree
[09:04] <ASk> compdoc: why?
[09:05] <rhelic> but if you integrate SP2 into your setup disc, problem solved
[09:05] <ASk> NTFS is better than FAT from all points of view
[09:05] <rhelic> ASk: ugh snap out of it
[09:05] <rhelic> ASk: err I mean, try reading what he said
[09:05] <compdoc> and dont get me started on the dos that comes with windows. any nix shell i
[09:05] <rhelic> compdoc: Powershell u noob
[09:05] <compdoc> oh?
[09:05] <rhelic> Powershell is more powerful than any unix shell
[09:05] <preventio> copy the file to the Win98se partition, and then go to DOS mode.
[09:05] <ASk> rhelic: he said that microsoft should've supported large fat drives
[09:06] <preventio> what does that mean "copy the file to the Win98se partition, and then go
[09:06] <ASk> compdoc: powershell is a bash-like shell with objects
[09:06] <rhelic> oh wait, I'm the only who can't read... he meant large FAT drives
[09:06] <ASk> well, bash-like is not really true
[09:06] <compdoc> Im on their webpage now
[09:06] <rhelic> FAT is crap, it should die
[09:06] <ASk> but it has the syntax for loops/functions/etc
[09:06] <ASk> and also has lambdas
[09:06] <ASk> and whatnot
[09:06] <rhelic> and LINQ like abilities
[09:06] <compdoc> theres still reasons to do fat32
[09:06] <ASk> + it's able to access all .NET objects
[09:07] <ASk> and run .net-based code
[09:07] <ASk> i.e there are libraries for it that give it gui capabilities
[09:07] <rhelic> yea
[09:07] <ASk> i don't really like it though :p
[09:07] <rhelic> the only con of Powershell is maybe it's verbosity (but you can create alias
[09:07] <ASk> maybe because I'm too lazy to learn it, maybe because i like zsh
[09:07] <rhelic> holepully we'll see an updated faster version
[09:08] <deww> rhelic: do you have some really good free resources for powershell?
[09:08] <rhelic> ASk: I'm not expert but I gave it a good try out, I don't use it but it was
[09:09] <rhelic> deww: blogs.msdn.com is a good start
[09:09] <deww> there should be an universally supported file system that isn't crap
[09:09] <deww> yeah i've been there
[09:09] <rhelic> let me pull out this RSS pasting script I have, it's neato
[09:09] <deww> too many circular links
[09:09] <ASk> deww: NFS?
[09:09] <rhelic> paste this into powershell, you get an idea how great it can be
[09:09] <rhelic> ([xml](new-object Net.WebClient).DownloadString("http://blogs.msdn.com/virtu
[09:10] <rhelic> deww: if you asked me a year ago I had a bunch of good links
[09:11] <rhelic> cool, Powershell comes with 2008 Server
[09:12] <compdoc> Powershell doesnt replace the xp command shell I guess. you run it seperate
[09:12] <rhelic> oh sweet, there's a CTP of Powershell 2.0, getting it
[09:12] <rhelic> compdoc: correct
[09:13] <rhelic> maybe I should install 1.0 and 2.0 and run a benchmark
[09:13] <dwad> I want to use my browser to print an entire web page, even the parts that are
[09:14] <rhelic> dwad: you're going to have to copy it all local and edit the CSS to remove t
[09:14] <rhelic> or maybe disable css, and pring it, but you probably won't like that
[09:14] <rhelic> dwad: oh wait, h/m, I just remembered I have a perfect solution
[09:14] <dwad> cool
[09:15] <Gaius1981> Quick history question: If Alabama was the "cradle of the confederacy", w
[09:15] <tmxone> is it possible to change another users "out of office" message in outlook 20
[09:16] <rhelic> no
[09:16] <rhelic> unless you admin the outlook server, then there's ways
[09:16] <rhelic> or better yet, domain admin
[09:16] <tmxone> yeah i do have admin rights
[09:16] <rhelic> then you can just become them, login and change it on their pc
[09:16] <tmxone> but never done that.
[09:17] <rhelic> dwad: use this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1146
[09:18] <dwad> thank you, thank you
[09:20] <tmxone> rhelic: i have admin rights BUT
[09:20] <tmxone> i dont have the rights to login into their mail account as myself
[09:20] <tmxone> as in use my domain account to override theirs..
[09:20] <rhelic> tmxone: wel login to a PC as domain admin, assume that user, then run Outloo
[09:20] <rhelic> problem solved
[09:21] <tmxone> hmm so i create a new outlook account using that persons name?
[09:21] <tmxone> and use my domain admin password?
[09:21] <rhelic> new account? huh no
[09:21] <preventio> i did everything for that esdi_506.pdr file and its not working
[09:21] <rhelic> learn to read
[09:22] <rhelic> tmxone: login to a PC as domain admin, assume that user, then run Outlook
[09:22] <tmxone> what do you mean assume that user?
[09:22] <preventio> do i need to install the hard drive internally i wonder
[09:22] <rhelic> preventio: never used it, you'll have to rely on the help and the forum
[09:22] <rhelic> tmxone: as a domain admin, you can become a user
[09:22] <tmxone> hold on
[09:23] <rhelic> that way, you are that user, /wo changing or using their password
[09:24] <preventio> rhelic: it says to copy the file to the windows 98se partition. where wou
[09:24] <preventio> thats the only step i didnt do because i don't know where that is
[09:25] <rhelic> I've never used it
[09:25] <rhelic> well if you skip a step and it doesn't work, wtf dude
[09:25] <rhelic> there's a fine line between needing help and being helpless
[09:25] <preventio> the windows 98se partition has something to do with hd0,0
[09:25] <preventio> or something
[09:25] <rhelic> read the forum, nobody here can help you
[09:25] <preventio> where ever that is, i have to copy the file to there
[09:26] <preventio> speak for yourself
[09:26] <rhelic> deww: about earlier, you can always troll the official blog http://blogs.ms
[09:27] <rhelic> preventio: well so far I'm the only person here that even knew there was a s
[09:29] <preventio> i'm trying again
[09:29] <HaVVoKK> hello people, i have a application that's an .exe file which opens uses the
[09:30] <rhelic> HaVVoKK: heh, learn a new language might be your only solution
[09:30] <Yoisers> anyone here know how to use that punch code buttons to open ur car door wit
[09:30] <rhelic> HaVVoKK: unless the coder added English support, you're screwed
[09:30] <rhelic> Yoisers: rtfm :P
[09:30] <HaVVoKK> no it's not what you think it is, i can read the language, but my PC can't
[09:30] <Yoisers> i have it in front of me
[09:31] <HaVVoKK> rhelic: my friend has a PC that uses this language as the standart and it c
[09:31] <rhelic> HaVVoKK: yea. not in English
[09:32] <rhelic> HaVVoKK: wel if you install those unicode fonts you don't have, the chars wi
[09:33] <humate> in vista, what is stopping my xp machine connect to my vista machine when no
[09:33] <rhelic> HaVVoKK: the fastest way is to browser their fonts folder, sort by size, and
[09:33] <rhelic> HaVVoKK: and copy to your PC, or peek around your setup and add the fonts vi
[09:34] <humate> hrmmm i mean, if i set a password on the account in vista, i can connect to
[09:35] <rhelic> humate: iirc Remote Desktop won't allow you to connect unless there's a pass
[09:36] <rhelic> humate: also, the account has to be in the Remote user group too
[09:36] <humate> its just a standard account
[09:36] <humate> not using remote desktop or anything
[09:36] <Phylum> this is an odd question: Anyone know of proxy server I can use to access a s
[09:37] <humate> 2 machines on home network
[09:37] <rhelic> humate: oh, well I'm sure it's a security thing
[09:37] <rhelic> a passwd is required
[09:37] <humate> yah i just cant find the setting to turn it off. its anoying.
[09:38] <rhelic> you probably can't
[09:38] <mureren^> hello ?
[09:38] <humate> if i cant im gonna kill myself :P i will keep searching
[09:38] <mureren^> ok:(
[09:40] <stikupkid> Tape drive keeps telling me to clean media...any ideas?
[09:40] <mureren^> i need help here :)
[09:41] <stikupkid> mureren^, ask...
[09:41] <compdoc> do you have a cleaning tape?
[09:44] <stikupkid> I did that already.
[09:47] <stikupkid> Any other ideas?
[09:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[09:50] * FullMinus is now known as FulMinus
[09:50] * FulMinus is now known as FullMinus
[09:52] <[hO]jorda> hi guys
[09:53] <[hO]jorda> do any of you guys know of like a world of warcraft channel
[09:54] <adam0> #wow?
[09:54] <adam0> seems to be a bunch of people in there
[09:55] <[hO]jorda> o thanks adam
[09:55] <Sculptor_> lol
[09:55] <[hO]jorda> yeah my bad haha
[09:55] <Sculptor_> that channel is probably idle, sinde wow players
[09:55] <Sculptor_> don't like to waste time
[09:55] <[hO]jorda> what's a non idle one
[09:56] <Sculptor_> true wow players play 24/7
[09:56] <adam0> there were people talkin when i poked my head in
[09:56] <ducch> anyone knows whats up with linknet?
[10:04] <ddrj> hello?
[10:07] <deww> hi?
[10:08] <compdoc> Noun: hello 1. An expression of greeting
[10:09] <deww> awesome it works!!!
[10:10] <deww> *lightning crackles*
[10:11] <compdoc> Noun: HI 1. A state in the United States in the central Pacific on the Hawa
[10:12] <Lindy_> new bot ?
[10:12] <Lindy_> hello?
[10:12] <godfist> sup compdoc
[10:12] <godfist> where have I seen u before
[10:12] <deww> nope
[10:12] <godfist> some other channel
[10:12] <deww> compdoc is a new lurker
[10:13] <Lindy_> ahhh
[10:13] <deww> rather old lurker
[10:13] <ddrj> hi deww :)
[10:13] <deww> hi
[10:13] <Xnomar> compdoc has been around irc for years
[10:13] <Lindy_> hmmm
[10:13] <Lindy_> compdoc is in +g mode (server-side ignore.)
[10:13] <Lindy_> compdoc has been informed that you messaged them.
[10:13] <ddrj> nm, how was your christmas?
[10:13] <compdoc>
[10:13] <compdoc> lin·dy [ líndee ] (plural lin·dies) or lin·dy
[10:13] <compdoc>
[10:13] <Lindy_> lol
[10:13] <compdoc> Definition:
[10:13] <compdoc>
[10:13] <compdoc> kind of jitterbug: a lively dance for couples that is similar to the jitter
[10:13] <compdoc>
[10:14] <ddrj> not funny
[10:14] * deww disables compdoc
[10:14] <Lindy_> I think it is.
[10:14] <ddrj> I don't.
[10:14] <compdoc> youre trying to msg me?
[10:14] <Lindy_> then you just have no sense of humor
[10:14] <pixil> That was going to get out of control.
[10:14] <pixil> :D
[10:15] <Lindy_> compdoc yes
[10:15] <ddrj> I have a better sense of humor than you
[10:15] <Lindy_> dont be too sure of that
[10:15] <deww> oh childrenz, no need to fight
[10:15] <deww> it is a joyous time of the year
[10:15] <deww> here, everyone have some ratpoo cake
[10:15] <ddrj> well.. i didn't get any presents so i'm mad :(
[10:15] <Lindy_> awww
[10:15] <rhelic> die deww die
[10:15] <ddrj> gonna shoot santa in the head
[10:15] <Lindy_> no thanks
[10:15] <rhelic> err I mean hey deww hey
[10:15] <Lindy_> I am on a diet.
[10:15] <ddrj> yeah u need to be on one
[10:16] <Lindy_> oh oh
[10:16] <compdoc> diets are hard
[10:16] * rhelic is eating pork loin and rice as we speak
[10:16] <Lindy_> much better
[10:16] <ddrj> oh hey
[10:16] <ddrj> i was just kidding :D
[10:16] * Lindy_ smirks
[10:16] <rhelic> Lindy_: hmm and i just typed what I was eating in ref to your diet and you q
[10:16] <ddrj> you're so beautiful, you don't need to be on a diet
[10:17] <rhelic> ddrj: remind me to use that one
[10:17] <ddrj> you're so thin, u disappear when you turn to your side
[10:17] <Lindy_> wasnt opered
[10:17] <rhelic> Lindy_: eating last night's pork loin & rice
[10:17] <ddrj> you're so beautiful, i shower you with compliments and rose petals
[10:17] <rhelic> although I buttereed the rice, so it's not that lean
[10:17] <Lindy_> yum dead cow
[10:17] <rhelic> pork
[10:17] <pixil> of pib
[10:17] <deww> pork
[10:17] <ddrj> then i would carry you in my arms and take you to the bedroom filled with rose
[10:17] <pixil> pig, too
[10:18] <Lindy_> ok now you are making me ill
[10:18] <pixil> :-(
[10:18] <Lindy_> deww can you fix linds please ?
[10:18] <rhelic> Lindy_: didn't know you were a beg head
[10:18] <rhelic> veg head
[10:18] <deww> it ain't broke. it is a feature
[10:18] <ddrj> then i would caress your face and run my hands through your hair
[10:18] <Lindy_> what do you mean ?
[10:18] <pixil> whoah, black betty
[10:18] <Lindy_> it wont let me op myself
[10:18] <rhelic> ddrj is cybering for ops
[10:18] <pixil> Lindy_: he deo-ops whoever tries to op someone else
[10:19] <Linds> but it wont let linds op
[10:19] <pixil> Right
[10:19] <Linds> why not ?
[10:20] <yogi> o hai its u
[10:20] <ochos2> anyone have a good site for help (for hardware newbies) for choosing and ins
[10:20] <ochos2> i dont know much about the motherboard
[10:21] <rhelic> ochos2: TomsHardware.com but I already have the answer, get a 8800GT, very f
[10:21] <rhelic> ochos2: about $225usd
[10:22] <ochos2> does it matter what kind of computer you have?
[10:22] <ochos2> like when y ou upgrade RAM
[10:22] <[hO]jorda> lenovo t61 represent!
[10:22] <rhelic> ochos2: no, as long as your motherboard has PCI-E
[10:22] <ochos2> how do you find that out? do you need to open it up or can you tell from Dev
[10:22] <rhelic> ochos2: or you can get a ATI Raedon 3850, a little cheaper, a little slower,
[10:23] <rhelic> ochos2: those are the two best cards to buy
[10:23] <rhelic> that don't cost a fortune, and can run any game
[10:24] <ochos2> great, i will look at the 8800GT
[10:25] <ochos2> what is the easiest way to see if you have PCI express?
[10:25] <yogi> ask it nicely
[10:27] <Lindy_> oh oh he is back
[10:28] <ddrj> who?
[10:28] <ddrj> did you miss me?
[10:30] <_Pope> I got DDoS for my nick
[10:30] <_Pope> can someone gline this prick
[10:30] <Lindy_> ddrj no
[10:30] <Lindy_> and _Pope no
[10:31] <_Pope> I've seen people who are good friends with irc ops get this treatment
[10:32] <yogi> cant u take a no _Pope
[10:32] <yogi> u hear it often
[10:32] <yogi> amirite
[10:32] <_Pope> but you aren't an op yogi
[10:32] <_Pope> and you most likely don't know a god damn thing
[10:32] <yogi> imma MOP
[10:33] <ddrj> woah, the pope's using the name of god in vain
[10:33] <yogi> MOTHER OP
[10:33] <ddrj> mf'in OP
[10:34] <_Pope> so I guess I just have to resort to the same behavior since no one here does
[10:37] * FullMinus is now known as FulMinus
[10:37] * FulMinus is now known as FullMinus
[10:37] <ial> how do they DoS you? arent you using a shell?
[10:37] <pixil> _Pope: What is "here" ?
[10:38] <pixil> 1.) We don't have any authority to do anything. 2.) We don't have any means
[10:39] <_Pope> you can see I was using the nick just a few hours ago
[10:39] <_Pope> then suddenly got dropped
[10:39] <_Pope> that's enough proof
[10:40] <Katasaki> waaa
[10:40] <pixil> No, it isn't. You obviously have no clue how it works.
[10:40] <Katasaki> somebody call the waaaambulance
[10:40] <pixil> _Pope: Your ISP won't even do anything.
[10:40] <_Pope> it's not my isp
[10:41] <pixil> Like I said, there is nothing we can do. Carry on.
[10:41] <_Pope> you can gline
[10:42] <pixil> No, we can't.
[10:42] <Katasaki> no, they can;t
[10:42] <pixil> We're just a help channel. We have nothing to do with specific aspects of an
[10:43] <Katasaki> under pope's assumptions, I could make a channel be an op and start g-lini
[10:43] <Katasaki> fun fun
[10:44] <preventio> how do i update the bios of an older computer
[10:44] <marley_> preventio: determine the manufacturer/version of the bios
[10:44] <Katasaki> err... update bios?
[10:44] <_Pope> Katasaki: you're an idiot plzstfu
[10:44] <marley_> that would be a good starting point
[10:44] <Katasaki> why would you need to update bios?
[10:45] <Katasaki> pope: you're the one crying over a nick
[10:45] <marley_> keeping the BIOS up to date is a good practice...
[10:45] <preventio> how do i determine that
[10:45] <_Pope> Katasaki: but you're still a moron
[10:45] <preventio> marley
[10:45] <Katasaki> marley: i was looking for a real why
[10:46] <marley_> preventio: the easiest way is to look up the computer model on the computer
[10:46] <Katasaki> if there's actually a good reason i might see fit to update my own
[10:47] <Katasaki> pope: don't insult people you don't know, especially those who qualift for
[10:47] <Katasaki> *t=y
[10:47] <preventio> marley : i don't even know the manufacturer. this is my parents and i'm t
[10:47] <Katasaki> those who can't type at all either.
[10:48] <marley_> preventio: well, if you're really set on updating the BIOS...what kind of c
[10:48] <marley_> like a dell, gateway, emachine, etc.
[10:48] <preventio> marley: windows 98 se
[10:49] <preventio> phonix bios
[10:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[10:49] <_Pope> Katasaki: I guess mensa has a retard division then
[10:49] <marley_> phoenix manufactures many different bios
[10:49] <marley_> i wouldnt suggest trying to update them unless you really know what youre d
[10:49] <Katasaki> pope I guess irc doesn't have pacifiers for children
[10:49] <rIpper> can anyone recomend a buisness class OCR software program?
[10:49] <Katasaki> sorry, you're out of luck
[10:50] <preventio> well i'm trying to get this computer to recognize an external hard drive
[10:50] <_Pope> Katasaki: because you hold all the pacifiers?
[10:50] <marley_> preventio: a USB hdd?
[10:50] <preventio> i applied a patch that's supposed to allow windows 98 se systems to recog
[10:50] <preventio> marley: yes
[10:50] <_Pope> when you cry yourself to sleep
[10:50] <_Pope> haha
[10:50] <preventio> here's what i patched http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=78592
[10:51] <marley_> preventio: do u know what filesystem the HDD is formatted with?
[10:51] <preventio> i dunno
[10:51] <preventio> give me an example
[10:51] <marley_> NTFS, FAT32
[10:52] <preventio> i don't know but i normally use this on my computer at home as a storage
[10:52] <preventio> with win xp
[10:52] <marley_> theres a good chance that its NTFS, and i don't b elieve win98se supports N
[10:52] <Katasaki> i put pope on ignore fyi
[10:53] <Katasaki> so I don't have to hear/respond to his childishness in this channel
[10:53] <Katasaki> so marley
[10:53] <Lindy_> he left
[10:53] <pixil> I wish DNS pollution was illegal. :p
[10:53] <Katasaki> back to edifying me upon a good reason to update bios
[10:53] <Katasaki> what changes?
[10:53] <Lindy_> do a wi pope
[10:54] <preventio> is there a program that will let me use NTFS with windows 98 se
[10:54] <preventio> ?
[10:55] <deww> preventio: maybe read if you look up ntfsods
[10:56] <marley_> Katasaki: just read a change log for a new BIOS version
[10:56] <marley_> and you'll likely see many fixes
[10:56] <preventio> have you ever heard of process explorer?
[10:56] <preventio> http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html
[10:56] <preventio> it looks like it might do the trick
[10:56] <preventio> i guess that links dead
[10:56] <marley_> 404
[10:57] <preventio> http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=58357
[10:58] <Gmouth> who needs help with a diet?
[10:59] <deww> process explorer not for ntfs access
[10:59] <marley_> preventio: hmmm...process explorer isnt going to help u
[10:59] <preventio> a guy on this website said he used process explorer to use ntfs with wind
[10:59] <deww> oh
[11:00] <marley_> i think you misread it, preventio
[11:00] <deww> no, but ntfsdos is made by the same folks
[11:00] <marley_> correct
[11:00] <deww> which.... no longer exists thanks to microsoft
[11:00] <deww> they acquired the company and kept a lot of the good stuff, besides that
[11:01] <rhelic> preventio: there are libraries to get access to NTFS on 98, but they can be
[11:01] <preventio> Thanks for the link to the Process Explorer - very cool. I'd forgotten ab
[11:01] <marley_> you can really screw up the permissions
[11:01] <preventio> what does that mean? damage the ntfs?
[11:01] <marley_> he/she is referring to sysinternals
[11:02] <DontTaze> sup
[11:03] <marley_> preventio: does the drive show up in fdisk?
[11:03] <preventio> i don't know
[11:04] <preventio> i don't even know what that is
[11:04] <marley_> ok. first i would isolate the problem...find out for certain what filesyste
[11:05] <marley_> highlight it in my computer, and see what it says for filesystem
[11:05] <preventio> i don't have an xp machine handy
[11:06] * FullMinus is now known as FullZzZ
[11:06] <preventio> i'm in fdisk right now
[11:06] <rhelic> preventio: well that sysinternals util only lets you view info, it won't fix
[11:06] <rhelic> preventio: MS bought up Sysinternals, but it's still availble via MS
[11:07] <preventio> fdisk seems to just recognize the c:
[11:07] <marley_> i wish there was a more adopted open source filesystem
[11:07] * St0ne1 is now known as St0ned
[11:08] <preventio> i can't believe there isn't some program that would let me retrive files
[11:08] <deww> you can boot off a cd like knoppix to read data
[11:08] <marley_> there are programs to do so
[11:09] <marley_> using a live cd like deww said is one way
[11:09] <rhelic> preventio: wait, has this 250GB drive been NTFS the whole time?
[11:09] <preventio> yeah
[11:09] <rhelic> preventio: I asked you that yesterday and you said no
[11:10] <preventio> i think i said i don't know
[11:10] <deww> this might work http://www.ntfs.com/products.htm
[11:10] * You_ have disconnected from efnet. Please reconnect
[11:10] <rhelic> haha
[11:11] <preventio> active boot disk?
[11:12] <deww> i was looking at the READNTFS.exe
[11:12] <deww> hrm
[11:12] <deww> might not work for usb drive eh
[11:12] <marley_> all of this is under the assumption that you being unable to 'see' the HDD
[11:12] <marley_> not being able*
[11:13] <marley_> if the drive is fat32 then youre wasting your time =p
[11:13] <preventio> well i can install hard drive internally
[11:13] <Darn> fat32 is dumb
[11:13] <Darn> you can't even set file permissions
[11:13] <Darn> they should have never released it
[11:13] <preventio> well i can't worry about that now
[11:14] <rhelic> darn: not very bright are you
[11:14] <rhelic> darn: do you want to whine about EGA next?
[11:15] <Darn> ega wasn't bad
[11:15] <Darn> but CGA was a joke
[11:15] <preventio> this ntfs reader is the most promising thing in 2 days
[11:15] <Darn> I mean why even bother designing something that puts out lik 4 colors?
[11:15] <rhelic> Darn: you're not good with sarcasm are you?
[11:15] <Darn> hehe
[11:15] <preventio> i'm not sure i can create a bootable cd on here though
[11:16] <Darn> are there any usb mice that have drives built into them?
[11:16] <You_> Are you trying to opress me bacause I'm black?
[11:16] <You_> I make a silly joke and get killed?
[11:16] <Darn> I didn't know you were black
[11:16] <You_> You, good sir, are racist
[11:16] <Darn> but thanks for letting us know
[11:16] <You_> not you, darn
[11:17] <preventio> looks like i can
[11:17] <preventio> it comes with a burning program
[11:17] <preventio> 'll give this a try
[11:18] <marley_> heh
[11:19] <dchelp> with manager.paypal.com is it possible to give someone an minimal privledge
[11:23] <deww> sorry. no idea. you should ask paypal directly and not some random dorks on ir
[11:23] <dchelp> heh
[11:23] <dchelp> figured you guys used it
[11:23] <deww> i never saw access type controls for personal accounts
[11:24] <deww> not so sure about businesses
[11:25] <dchelp> im assuming because it says things like 'only admins can add services from t
[11:26] <Lindy_> who declared it idiot day?
[11:27] <Kor> the International Council on Idiot Affairs
[11:27] <Linds> I see.
[11:27] <pixil> futex(0xafd0306c, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 1
[11:27] <pixil> gettimeofday({1198869921, 900373}, NULL) = 0
[11:27] <Linds> well they need a day off
[11:27] <pixil> oops
[11:27] <pixil> And that's all I've got to say! :p
[11:27] <dchelp> yep found it https://www.paypal.com/en_US/vhelp/paypalmanager_help/about_use
[11:30] <godfist> wow you guys are paypal advanced ppl
[11:31] <godfist> i just use it to get stuff on ebay and amazon mainly
[11:31] <godfist> sometimes newegg
[11:40] <Evin> where is a good place in america to get cardboard
[11:40] <Evin> to make a template for frosting my windows
[11:41] <MrPockets> whats a good program to use instead of AIM
[11:43] <DontTaze> trillion
[11:43] <ial> pidgin
[11:43] <DontTaze> it has aim, yahoo, and msn
[11:43] <DontTaze> all in one
[11:43] <deww> Evin: art stores
[11:43] <MrPockets> ial i've been using pidgin
[11:43] <deww> or home improvement sores
[11:43] <MrPockets> but its kinda, ugly?
[11:44] <ial> what do you think it ugly about it? seems like a clean interface to me
[11:44] <deww> i am currently using bitlbee, but only because i don't like yet another applic
[11:44] <deww> for AIM / MSN
[11:44] <MrPockets> everythigns large, many times fonts come across difficult to read,
[11:44] <ial> i havnt had that problem, everything looks fine to me with the default settings
[11:46] <MrPockets> ill give Trillion a shot
[11:46] <MrPockets> what do you guys use for media players that isnt buggy, is free, and work
[11:47] <ial> VLC
[11:47] <MrPockets> better than winamp in your opinion?
[11:47] <deww> media player classic + proper codecs
[11:47] <deww> also another popular choice
[11:48] <MrPockets> hmm
[11:48] <MrPockets> Trillion wants to install toolbars with it :-X
[11:48] <MrPockets> always a sign of an untrustworthy program...
[11:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[11:55] <DontTaze> oh they do that shit now?
[11:55] <MrPockets> :-\ yeh
[12:17] <stikupkid> Tape drive keeps telling me to clean media...any ideas? I used the media
[12:17] <deww> the cleaning tape might be expired
[12:18] <disturb> does anyone here know of a free personal budgeting program like quicken?
[12:19] <mureren^> what do you see?
[12:22] <mureren^> :(
[12:24] <Lindy_> quicken is free ?
[12:24] <deww> mureren^: not free either, but also a lot of people seem to like ms money
[12:24] <deww> er
[12:24] <deww> disturb: that was for you!
[12:25] <Lindy_> I saw quicken for sale the other day.
[12:25] <Lindy_> disturb make your own program.
[12:26] <stikupkid> Cleaning tape expired?
[12:26] <deww> stikupkid: i remember having some DLT cleaning tapes expire on me
[12:26] <estranger> is provisioning an IP Phone any harder than provisioning a soft phone? th
[12:26] <stikupkid> Like actually expire to where they wont work, or they dont do the job?
[12:27] <estranger> cleaner tapes can only be used so many times
[12:27] <stikupkid> estranger, Id say no.
[12:27] <disturb> Lindy: don't want to upgrade my old quicken so I need something like it tha
[12:27] <Lindy_> ahh ok
[12:28] <estranger> stikupkid: what kind of tape drive is this
[12:28] <ial> disturb: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/accountingexpress/FX101729681033.as
[12:31] <stikupkid> Not sure honestly...
[12:31] <stikupkid> It isnt in front of me...its at a friends place
[12:31] <estranger> well, it could just be an old cleaner tape so its not really cleanning it
[12:31] <estranger> or a messed up drive
[12:33] <stikupkid> Right I think he said the tape was brand new
[12:34] <disturb> ial: thanks, i'll give that a try.
[12:37] <deww> stikupkid: yeah. as i recall we had to buy new tapes
[12:46] * matyd` is now known as matyd
[12:47] <estranger> far shot. anyone ever setup Free World Dialup with trixbox?
[12:47] <pixil> trixbox seems to be a hot topic lately
[12:47] <pixil> siwwy wabbits
[12:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[12:49] <estranger> just installed it here
[12:50] <estranger> got everything workin internally pretty quickly.. want to test the incomi
[12:50] <estranger> then i dont have to pay for a SIP trunk or anything
[12:51] <deadmanwa> anyone use outlook?
[12:52] <deadmanwa> i'm trying to find where messages are stored once they are downloaded
[12:52] <deadmanwa> a little help?
[12:52] <deww> look for a PST file on your system
[12:52] <deww> it is probably under documents and settings\username\application data (hidden
[12:53] <deadmanwa> *outlook express
[12:53] <dolph72> Where would I report someone that spammed me with 70 differnet nicks?
[12:53] <deadmanwa> dont know if it makes a difference
[12:53] <deadmanwa> ignore their whole subnet
[12:53] <deww> it does. i don't remember OE and never used it :(
[12:53] <deadmanwa> hmm
[12:54] <deww> http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm
[12:54] <estranger> OE uses a bunch of files inside your application data folder, iirc
[12:55] <deadmanwa> yeah found them
[12:55] <deadmanwa> ok. thx
[13:09] <Purpdank> how do i remove programs from launghing when i first start a computer
[13:09] <Purpdank> launching
[13:09] <Gmouth> several ways
[13:09] <Purpdank> i just need one way
[13:09] <Gmouth> remove from startup folder, or run msconfig from your run line and see whats
[13:10] <Purpdank> isnt there like a startup folder or something
[13:10] <Purpdank> ok
[13:11] <MrPockets> yooooo
[13:11] <MrPockets> If i'm running two monitors in Dual view, can i have a different wallpape
[13:11] <Sculptor_> anyone uses netsh a lot
[13:15] <Purpdank> wheres the startup folder gmouth
[13:16] <mureren^> does enyone know if there is a good muliplayer crack for call of duty 4?
[13:18] <ial> mureren^: no cracks here
[13:19] <Purpdank> wheres my startup folder
[13:20] <ial> try C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
[13:21] <Purpdank> thanks
[13:21] <ial> also check All Users, same place
[13:21] <Purpdank> wtf its empty
[13:22] <mureren^> joda
[13:22] <mureren^> okei multiplayer fix then?
[13:26] <Dr-PC> whats the best way to report a ddos attack
[13:26] <Dr-PC> ?
[13:27] <deww> get your ISP involved
[13:28] <Dr-PC> i got packeted for hours
[13:28] <Dr-PC> my firewall went crazy
[13:28] <Gmouth> stay off the pr0n sites
[13:28] <Dr-PC> comeing from chinese ips tho
[13:28] <Dr-PC> i dont use porn
[13:28] <Dr-PC> i got a gf to use
[13:28] <Gmouth> it was a joke ;)
[13:29] <Dr-PC> "2007/12/28 23:27:46" "eLogType_Packet" "All other packets" "0" "Inbound" "0"
[13:29] <Dr-PC> that is what was flooding me all night
[13:29] <Gmouth> report the ip addresses to your isp
[13:29] <Dr-PC> is that what u do
[13:29] <Dr-PC> what do they do then
[13:31] <Gmouth> start an investigation
[13:31] <Gmouth> who is your internet provider?
[13:31] <Dr-PC> ncable
[13:31] <Dr-PC> www.ncable.com.au
[13:31] <Gmouth> don't know if AU companys go after that
[13:31] <Dr-PC> ops .net.au
[13:31] <Gmouth> can try to report
[13:31] <boyewq> anybody know a free program that will merge .mov files?
[13:32] <Gmouth> nero will do it, but its not free
[13:32] <Dr-PC> this is how hard they hit me
[13:32] <UnSub> it is if you know where...ok nm heh
[13:32] <deww> Dr-PC: unless your ISP actively gets involved, there isn't really much you can
[13:32] <Dr-PC> im alreayd on dialup speed for downloading to much for the month
[13:32] <UnSub> nero do a 30 day trial =D
[13:32] <boyewq> got roxio on here
[13:33] <Dr-PC> yesterday my download usage was 26GB for the month today it is 46GB
[13:33] <Dr-PC> :|
[13:33] <Dr-PC> downloaded like 20gb just from that attack
[13:34] <deww> Dr-PC: your ISP can stop it better than you can.
[13:34] <Dr-PC> ya
[13:34] <deww> if you're paying for that by the MB, you better complain ;)
[13:34] <Dr-PC> im capped
[13:34] <UnSub> jesus people pay for bandwidth these days?
[13:34] <Dr-PC> i dont
[13:34] <deww> UnSub: depends on where you live
[13:34] <UnSub> screw that
[13:34] <Dr-PC> i just get a download limit of 30gb a month
[13:34] <Dr-PC> after i go over it slows to dialup
[13:34] <UnSub> i do that a day heheh
[13:35] <UnSub> aussie?
[13:35] <Dr-PC> i tried to ring provider normaly u get a call person who dont know much about
[13:35] <Dr-PC> so its hard
[13:35] <Dr-PC> ya i from aust
[13:35] <UnSub> thought so
[13:35] <UnSub> well
[13:35] <Dr-PC> normaly u just get people who know how to look up how much money u owe them f
[13:35] <UnSub> you got the nice island, the great weather, the surf
[13:36] <Dr-PC> ya i liv next to beach
[13:36] <UnSub> we got the tea, the crumpets, the rain and the unlimited internet =D
[13:36] <UnSub> wanna swap? =D
[13:36] * Sonu_757 is now known as Sonu_
[13:36] <Dr-PC> u from scotland
[13:36] <Dr-PC> ?
[13:36] <UnSub> england
[13:36] <UnSub> <--pom
[13:36] <Dr-PC> my dad was from scot then grew up in eng
[13:36] <Dr-PC> but now lives in aus and says he will never go back
[13:36] <UnSub> smart guy
[13:36] <Dr-PC> i was born here tho
[13:36] <Dr-PC> his still got his pom accent
[13:37] <Dr-PC> but he goes for eng in sport
[13:37] <Dr-PC> and i go for aus ;)
[13:37] <UnSub> heh
[13:37] <UnSub> cricket?
[13:37] <Dr-PC> ya everything
[13:37] <UnSub> ruggers?
[13:37] <UnSub> hehe
[13:37] <Dr-PC> in cricket his like noo eng will win
[13:38] <UnSub> HAHAHA
[13:38] <UnSub> yeah
[13:38] <UnSub> course we will
[13:38] <UnSub> o_O
[13:38] <Dr-PC> we giving india a thumping atm
[13:38] <Dr-PC> india need 500 runs
[13:38] <Dr-PC> there batting atm
[13:38] <UnSub> sooo where abouts in aust you live?
[13:38] <Dr-PC> near melbourne
[13:38] <UnSub> we are tinkering with the idea of travelling there
[13:38] <Dr-PC> i live near bells beach
[13:39] <Dr-PC> its a surf beach
[13:39] <Dr-PC> they hold the billabong pro each year
[13:39] <UnSub> we are going thailand in august for a month so we might do another skip
[13:39] <Dr-PC> where all the surfers come and have a compitiion
[13:39] <Dr-PC> ya heaps of eng backpackers come here
[13:39] <UnSub> some see what you aussies are like
[13:39] <Dr-PC> if u dont like sport u shouldnt come
[13:40] <Dr-PC> cause thats all we pretty much do
[13:40] <Dr-PC> hmm
[13:40] <Dr-PC> aust sucks for broadband
[13:40] <Dr-PC> no company has unlim download
[13:40] <UnSub> damn
[13:40] <Dr-PC> The username or password you have entered is incorrect. Please try again
[13:41] <UnSub> i think even AOL here does unlimited download
[13:41] <Dr-PC> hahha now my isp tryin to tell me my user name n password is incorrect
[13:41] <UnSub> ah no wait, thats downTIME
[13:41] <UnSub> my bad
[13:41] <Dr-PC> hmm
[13:41] <UnSub> you rich?
[13:41] <Dr-PC> how can i download 20GB in 1 day
[13:41] <Dr-PC> from a ddos attack on dialup speed
[13:41] <Dr-PC> doesnt make sense
[13:41] <UnSub> you could get a corporate pipe jacked into your house
[13:41] <Dr-PC> no im not rich just average
[13:42] <Dr-PC> lol
[13:42] <UnSub> OC3 or something
[13:42] <Dr-PC> i dont even live in a house im in a unit
[13:42] <Dr-PC> heh
[13:42] <UnSub> foot think snake of fibre optics hanging out your bedroom window
[13:42] <Dr-PC> it would take up the whole unit
[13:42] <UnSub> be your own little backbone
[13:42] <UnSub> =)
[13:42] <Dr-PC> everyone will be jealous
[13:42] <Dr-PC> =]
[13:43] <UnSub> you would have to grafiti it
[13:43] <Dr-PC> i rang up provider yesterday they told me they are updating all the exchanges
[13:43] <UnSub> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA all the way down its length
[13:43] <UnSub> heh
[13:43] <UnSub> stripping out the copper
[13:43] <Dr-PC> duno
[13:43] <Dr-PC> cause i asked why is there site not working
[13:43] <UnSub> or taking out the paper cups and string
[13:44] <Dr-PC> and thats what they told me making a huge update of exchanges
[13:44] <UnSub> ah
[13:44] <UnSub> well at least you are still connected m8
[13:44] <UnSub> give it till tomorrow
[13:44] <Dr-PC> heh
[13:44] <UnSub> if no joy, change providers
[13:44] <Dr-PC> i couldnt get online all nite
[13:44] <Dr-PC> i cant im locked in for 2 yrs heh
[13:44] <UnSub> na
[13:44] <Dr-PC> this is only provider i can get broadband with
[13:44] <UnSub> not if they mess you around
[13:44] <Dr-PC> i cant get it with anyone else
[13:44] <UnSub> breach of contract
[13:45] <Dr-PC> to far from exchanges for anyone else
[13:45] <BuggedOut> do sata drives have jumpers>
[13:45] <UnSub> ahh
[13:45] <Dr-PC> this is a local cable company
[13:45] <UnSub> yes i guess that would be an issue
[13:45] <Dr-PC> like telstra is our main telephone exchange
[13:45] <Dr-PC> even they dont have broadband for me
[13:45] <UnSub> well your own fault for living in such a big bloody country =D
[13:45] <Dr-PC> ya its the landsize of america
[13:46] <Dr-PC> but population only 20 million
[13:46] <UnSub> jesus
[13:46] <Dr-PC> heh its hard to cover aust with exchanges
[13:46] <Dr-PC> i know eng is like 60 mill
[13:46] <UnSub> my street has that population i think with all the asians living here
[13:46] <Dr-PC> 3 times the population
[13:46] <Dr-PC> :p
[13:46] <Dr-PC> i think the 20 mil is a bit wrong tho
[13:46] <UnSub> dunno
[13:47] <Dr-PC> dont think they counted the abos living out in the bush
[13:47] <UnSub> prolly about right
[13:47] <UnSub> you guys getting picked off by sharks and all
[13:47] <UnSub> keep ya numbers down =)
[13:47] <Dr-PC> ya shark attack happen down the road from where i am
[13:47] <UnSub> bad?
[13:47] <Dr-PC> its a famous surf beach even a movie about it with keanu reeves in it
[13:47] <Dr-PC> ya lost his leg
[13:47] <UnSub> ouch
[13:47] <Dr-PC> its happen about 3 times this year
[13:48] <UnSub> man that must be trippy
[13:48] <Dr-PC> 2 asians drowned last week
[13:48] <Dr-PC> goin for a swim at night
[13:48] <UnSub> not all bad then
[13:48] <UnSub> LOL jk
[13:48] <bills> anyone know anything about RAM?
[13:48] <UnSub> well thats just bloody stupid
[13:48] <Dr-PC> ya
[13:48] <Dr-PC> oh ram the memory
[13:48] <UnSub> a bit bills what you need?
[13:48] <bills> i need to know what kind to buy without actually taking a stick from my compu
[13:48] <Dr-PC> i dont know much about computers but i put this comp together it was easy
[13:49] <Dr-PC> read the sticker on the stick
[13:49] <UnSub> how old is your computer?
[13:49] <bills> is there a way to find out what size of ram i have on my computer? 200 pin 24
[13:49] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help. JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/Drama/MSGi
[13:49] * Nerdvader slaps LW around a bit with a large trout
[13:49] <UnSub> and how much ram do you have?
[13:50] <bills> i have 1gb of ram now, but i want to buy another stick.. maybe 2 more..
[13:50] <Dr-PC> ddr ram maybe
[13:50] <bills> i dont know...
[13:50] <Dr-PC> mines ddr2
[13:50] <Dr-PC> my comp is only about 4 weeks old
[13:51] <Dr-PC> grr
[13:51] <Dr-PC> stupid provider cant log into the website to see my usage
[13:51] <Dr-PC> :|
[13:51] <bills> my computer is about 3 years old..
[13:51] <UnSub> 3 years ok
[13:51] <Dr-PC> yea its prbly ddr
[13:51] <UnSub> new 3 years ago?
[13:52] <UnSub> top of the range? medium range?
[13:52] <Dr-PC> do ur comp stats
[13:52] <Dr-PC> mines med
[13:52] <bills> theres no program or windows that will tell you how big the stick is? 200 pin
[13:53] <Dr-PC> why wont u just take a stick out
[13:53] <UnSub> bills whats the problem with opening your machine up to look?
[13:53] <Dr-PC> ?
[13:53] <Dr-PC> its so easy to take out
[13:53] <UnSub> you are gonna have to crack it open to install the thing
[13:53] <UnSub> dont even have to take it out, just read the sticker
[13:53] <bills> i know its easty, i was just wondering if you could do it without doing it..
[13:53] <UnSub> im guessing 133 DDR
[13:53] <Dr-PC> mine says when i turn comp on
[13:54] <Dr-PC> that its DDR2
[13:54] <Dr-PC> on the black screen
[13:54] <UnSub> yeah check your postscreen on reboot
[13:54] <UnSub> or
[13:54] <UnSub> enter setup
[13:54] <UnSub> infact thats prolly your best bet right there
[13:54] <Dr-PC> ya
[13:54] <UnSub> reboot, enter your bios and check
[13:54] <UnSub> =)
[13:54] <UnSub> good thinking batman
[13:55] <UnSub> oh and bills
[13:55] <UnSub> you will have to open it up anyway
[13:55] <UnSub> you dont know how many slots you have free =P
[13:55] <Dr-PC> maybe he dont have a screw driver and his bread and butter knife is to big
[13:56] <UnSub> thumb screws!
[13:56] <UnSub> or even better do what i do
[13:56] <Dr-PC> mine are finger screws
[13:56] <UnSub> leave the case off
[13:56] <Dr-PC> i got a Antec case
[13:56] <bills> brb
[13:56] <Dr-PC> there like screw in buttons on it
[13:56] <Dr-PC> i mean u use ur fingers to unscrew
[13:56] <Dr-PC> =]
[13:56] <UnSub> i gotta reboot myself
[13:57] <Dr-PC> lol
[13:57] <Nerdvader> inder?
[13:57] <boyewq> somebody said you can use nero to merge .mov files?
[13:57] <UnSub> wtf happened to "with windows blah blah, you wont have to reboot after instal
[13:57] <Dr-PC> i got nero
[13:57] <boyewq> i have nero as well
[13:57] <boyewq> but i don't see an option where you can merge .mov files
[13:57] <Dr-PC> i need to download windows update
[13:57] <Nerdvader> inder
[13:58] <Nerdvader> inder
[13:58] <UnSub> try soundforge
[13:58] <UnSub> that supports video
[13:59] <Dr-PC> hmm
[13:59] <Dr-PC> what speed is ur cable connection
[14:00] <UnSub> mine?
[14:00] <Dr-PC> ya
[14:00] <UnSub> 4 down 1 up
[14:00] <Dr-PC> aus hav crap connections
[14:00] <Dr-PC> whats 4 down
[14:00] <UnSub> 4mbit
[14:00] <Dr-PC> 4000k
[14:00] <Dr-PC> ?
[14:00] <Dr-PC> im only on 1500k :|
[14:00] <UnSub> 4096 ya
[14:01] <Dr-PC> dam
[14:01] <Dr-PC> aus r 3rd world for broadband
[14:01] <UnSub> 4th world id say heh
[14:01] <UnSub> it would be cheaper to get a mobile chip and a laptop me thinks
[14:02] <Dr-PC> lol
[14:02] <UnSub> right gotta reboot
[14:02] <Dr-PC> oke
[14:07] <Dr-PC> :P
[14:07] <Hippichik> how can i join he undernet??
[14:07] <Hippichik> THE
[14:07] <Dr-PC> by going it with correct server
[14:07] <w00d> hi
[14:07] <Dr-PC> hiii
[14:07] <UnSub> bill back yet?
[14:07] <w00d> how to delete a registered channel
[14:08] <Dr-PC> whos bill
[14:08] <UnSub> just leave it, it will clean itself
[14:08] <Dr-PC> i just rang provider
[14:08] <w00d> Ok
[14:08] <Dr-PC> they told me it people dont get there until 10 am :|
[14:08] <UnSub> mr. i cant be bothered to open my pc
[14:08] <w00d> i need to register a new channel
[14:08] * w00d is now known as wo0d
[14:08] <Dr-PC> na his not back
[14:08] <UnSub> 10am?!?!
[14:08] <Dr-PC> yea i