Session Start: Fri Jan 26 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #help
[00:00] <blue^moon> to connect to your friends computer?
[00:00] <smoknghst> and vista
[00:00] <blue^moon> I think I'm getting the questions mixed together
[00:00] <smoknghst> no I'm connected
[00:00] <smoknghst> and trying to set up his irc
[00:00] <smoknghst> and it wont connect it gets software caused connection abort
[00:00] * Disconnected
[00:00] * Attempting to rejoin channel #help
[00:00] * Rejoined channel #help
[00:00] * Topic is 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops - #helpchat
[00:00] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Thu Jan 25 23:17:23
[00:00] <smoknghst> he has vista
[00:01] <blue^moon> k, hang on
[00:01] <smoknghst> no
[00:01] <smoknghst> its not vista im sorry
[00:01] <blue^moon> well, I don't know anything aobut vista
[00:01] <smoknghst> its xp
[00:01] <Phongie> chains: im not really into that kinda music
[00:01] <Phongie> i like chilli peppers though :D
[00:02] <IamKing> FishFace: what is this "rouge" that you are talking about? :P
[00:02] <blue^moon> smoknghst, gonna paste something to you in msg
[00:02] <blue^moon> are you +g?
[00:03] <blue^moon> rogue
[00:03] <blue^moon> s)
[00:03] <FishFace> IamKing: firefox.exe's laying around in the task manager
[00:03] <FishFace> That happens sometimes.
[00:03] <IamKing> not for me
[00:03] <smoknghst> k
[00:03] <IamKing> it exits cleanly
[00:03] <IamKing> used to be a problem in the past
[00:03] <FishFace> I see. Well, it has happened here on occasion.
[00:03] <Phongie> FishFace: same here
[00:04] <Phongie> FF would still try to run even though on shut down
[00:04] <Phongie> -___-
[00:04] <FishFace> I'll just reinstall the bugger
[00:04] <blue^moon> I have a problem with that in FF
[00:05] <blue^moon> and sometimes, I have to shut down the windows, clear the cache and it wi
[00:05] <blue^moon> it just stops
[00:05] <blue^moon> its wierd
[00:05] <Phongie> blue^moon: 2.0 uses even more memory than 1.5
[00:05] <Phongie> lol
[00:05] <FishFace> Yeah. Maybe I'll boot before I blow out all my bookmarks and forget my log
[00:05] <blue^moon> wonder whick I'm using
[00:06] <Phongie> before with 1.5 when i had about 3 tabs it uses up about 50MB
[00:06] <blue^moon> I don't think I've gone to 2.0 but I might have
[00:06] <Phongie> now with 2.0 with 2 tabs it uses 75MB :(
[00:06] * Efreeti is now known as Ifrit
[00:06] <Phongie> i might just go back to IE7
[00:06] <blue^moon> usually when I open tskmgr ff has about 200k used
[00:07] <blue^moon> I been using ie7
[00:07] <Phongie> ff 2.0 is very similiar to IE7
[00:07] <blue^moon> I realize its insecure, but it works consistently
[00:08] <Phongie> blue^moon: hmm i dont' get it, i never had any problems using IE7
[00:08] <Phongie> so why is everyone else having a problem using IE7? :/
[00:08] <blue^moon> oh I don't
[00:08] <Phongie> nah im not saying you do
[00:08] <Phongie> im saying the rest of the users
[00:08] <blue^moon> I been using it since it came out
[00:08] <blue^moon> I think its prejudice to be honest
[00:08] <blue^moon> its chic to bash ms products
[00:08] <IamKing> with 2 tabs open in some rather ad-laden pages, Firefox is using about 60 M
[00:08] <blue^moon> even the good ones
[00:09] <IamKing> however, I have 1 GB of RAM, so it doesn't bother me :P
[00:09] <Phongie> IamKing: i have 1GB as well but still -___-
[00:09] <blue^moon> mine is at 151K and I'm not even usingit
[00:09] <blue^moon> same here
[00:09] <blue^moon> but at home, I have shared ram
[00:09] <blue^moon> with the video
[00:09] <Phongie> its the fact that it uses so much resource when doing so little
[00:09] <blue^moon> that's a problem
[00:11] <IamKing> blue^moon: what's this about IE7 works "consistently"?
[00:11] <Phongie> IamKing: it works with no problems :D
[00:11] <Phongie> everytime i use it
[00:11] <blue^moon> it performs as designed when I use it
[00:11] <blue^moon> so I'm using it
[00:11] <Phongie> i use it on the laptop since i only got 512MB on the laptop
[00:12] <blue^moon> I don't have to keep clearing hte cache to get links to open
[00:12] <Phongie> so i need to save as much system resource as much :)
[00:12] <blue^moon> exactly, same here
[00:12] <IamKing> blue^moon: I don't ever have to clear the cache with Firefox
[00:13] <IamKing> but I have had IE5 and IE6 crash on me constantly
[00:13] <blue^moon> honestly, my experience is the opposite
[00:13] <IamKing> Firefox used to crash less frequently...but ever since it went to 1.0, it s
[00:13] <blue^moon> but my computing needs are pretty simple
[00:14] <Phongie> same here
[00:14] <Phongie> :/
[00:14] * IamKing^ is now known as IamKing
[00:14] <Phongie> my surfing needs are really simple
[00:14] <bananasna> Hey
[00:15] <Phongie> and FF crashes while IE never does
[00:15] <bananasna> I was wondering, now I have great speakers and they sound great, but for
[00:15] <IamKing> [03:14:40] * IamKing (liege@c-69-248-65-202.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Head
[00:16] <bananasna> I have tried a lot of different headphones, and for some reason they are
[00:16] <EfnetChat> if i had a server that had a hub if i change it to a switch will it incre
[00:16] <IamKing> don't know why Firefox is crashing on you two, but it hasn't on my systems
[00:16] <IamKing> and yes, that's plural...systems :P
[00:17] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops
[00:17] <blue^moon> I still use it at times
[00:17] <IamKing> on both Win2K SP4 and WinXP SP2
[00:17] <blue^moon> I had it on the two laptops and the desktop that I used as a gateway till
[00:17] <EfnetChat> will changeing from a hub to a switch increase or decrease collision doma
[00:17] <Joops> I applied for two credit cards last month, one from CHASE and one from CITI,
[00:17] <IamKing> EfnetChat: decrease when going to a switch
[00:18] <IamKing> switch = intelligent hub
[00:18] <EfnetChat> thanks IamKing :)
[00:18] <blue^moon> did you get the ones from Citi or chase?
[00:18] <Joops> I got one from CITI I didnt apply for, and nothing from chase
[00:18] <Phongie> Joops: stay away from citi, :)
[00:18] <Joops> I wanted an interest free for atleast 6 months and got a low credit line and
[00:18] <FishFace> fwiw: Firefox is fixed. No re-install. Ran some 'el cheapo' registry clean
[00:19] <Phongie> FishFace: good job :D
[00:19] <blue^moon> maybe that's what we should try Phongie
[00:19] <IamKing> FishFace: heh...maybe that's what blue^moon and Phongie need to do :P
[00:19] <FishFace> :)
[00:19] <IamKing> blue^moon: jinx ;)
[00:19] <Phongie> blue^moon: maybe ;) but im too cheapo to use an "el cheapo" registry cleane
[00:19] <blue^moon> hehehe
[00:19] <IamKing> I've had a Firefox extension get corrupted on me when I left the computer o
[00:20] <FishFace> Yeah, but this might only be a temp thing because I scrolled through the e
[00:20] <blue^moon> this is florida, I 'm sure that's happened
[00:20] <blue^moon> more than once
[00:20] <FishFace> yeah
[00:20] <Phongie> i get black outs like once a " blue^moon " :P
[00:20] <FishFace> heh
[00:20] <IamKing> got tired of not finding what individual files I needed to yank in order to
[00:20] <blue^moon> did you reinstall over it, or uninstall and reinstall?
[00:20] <blue^moon> ;)
[00:21] <IamKing> I thought a simple uninstall/reinstall would work...it didn't
[00:21] <Phongie> horray, they've finished laying the fiber underground i should be able to o
[00:21] <FishFace> Whooo!
[00:21] <Phongie> yeah they just finished today
[00:21] <FishFace> FIOS seems to be a long way off here :(
[00:21] * bananasna smells the air and laughs
[00:21] <IamKing> I need to remember to goto the bar tonight
[00:21] <IamKing> must remember...
[00:21] <IamKing> remember...
[00:22] <blue^moon> now you're just gonna have to pee alot and won't remember why
[00:22] <blue^moon> smoknghst, still having the problem?
[00:23] <IamKing> now when it came down to choosing between Opera and Firefox, I chose Firefo
[00:24] <IamKing> although Opera can be just as much as a memory hog as Firefox at times
[00:24] <Phongie> IamKing: i chose ff because opera doens't work with logitech setpoint
[00:24] <IamKing> setpoint?
[00:24] <Phongie> so i can't use the back and forward buttons on my mouse which im accustomed
[00:24] <IamKing> ah
[00:24] <IamKing> complicated mice :P
[00:24] <IamKing> heheheh
[00:24] <Phongie> i can't live without those 2 lil buttons
[00:24] <Phongie> it feels weird lol
[00:24] <IamKing> I prefer the Firefox "extensions" motif over the Opera "widgets"
[00:25] <blue^moon> I have that mouse
[00:25] <blue^moon> those opera widgets are kind of a pain
[00:25] <IamKing> unless widgets are handled by the OS (like in Mac OS X), then it's not real
[00:25] <IamKing> but even then, I think they might still be a "pain in the ass" ;)
[00:26] <blue^moon> I never mastered 'em ;)
[00:26] * IamKing would love to have a MacBook Pro...
[00:26] <blue^moon> yeah?
[00:26] <blue^moon> is that was zAlanM has?
[00:27] <IamKing> I don't know
[00:27] <blue^moon> I know he has a mac
[00:27] <IamKing> but there's an app that's only for Mac OS X that I just by accident ran int
[00:27] <bananasna> listen, is anyone here a good writer that wouldn't mind helping me real q
[00:27] <bananasna> It won't take too long.
[00:27] <IamKing> one that most others probably wouldn't think twice about...but for an info
[00:28] * IamKing doesn't help with homework :P
[00:28] <bananasna> I am completing an application for a college, and I just want someone to
[00:28] <IamKing> nope, can't help you there
[00:28] <IamKing> they use those to judge your command of the English language
[00:29] <IamKing> either you have it, or you don't
[00:29] <function1> isnt there some classic australian shoe called like callerbys or somethin
[00:29] <bananasna> I have good commany of the English language. However, even the most estab
[00:29] <bananasna> command*
[00:29] <bananasna> lol
[00:29] <IamKing> case in point! :P
[00:30] <bananasna> Oh please, I would imagine that my writing capabilities > your writing
[00:30] <IamKing> if you had a single question about grammar, I would help
[00:30] <bananasna> Trust me, most computer nerds I have met have awful writing skills.
[00:30] <IamKing> but I am not going to peruse a college app this late at night
[00:30] <IamKing> I scored higher on the Verbal part of the SAT, which really disappointed me
[00:31] <bananasna> It's not a grammar question. I just want someone to look at the question/
[00:31] <blue^moon> so you come to the computer nerds, insult them, and hten ask for help
[00:31] <blue^moon> good job
[00:31] <FishFace> Dolt. ROFL! I haven't heard that one in a long time :)
[00:31] <bananasna> I am not insulting you guys.
[00:31] <IamKing> I should have done better on the Math, considering I was taking and acing c
[00:32] <blue^moon> Oh please, I would imagine that my writing capabilities > your writing
[00:32] <blue^moon> that's insulting
[00:33] <IamKing> blue^moon: I think he's talking about the typical script kiddies on IRC
[00:33] <Hugh> HILLBIllY
[00:33] <IamKing> hick
[00:33] <bananasna> I don't care if someone has good writing abilities. I was just asking for
[00:34] <Hugh> Hi````¬`as`s`eqf`eFG`ERH``HH`J56`J`76K78K79IL0```
[00:35] <voltz> Hugh: you want something ?
[00:35] <blue^moon> someting in english, preferably
[00:35] <Hugh> no sorry, im changin my nickname but forget /nick
[00:35] <Hugh> :)
[00:37] <blue^moon> I wouldn't think they'd have hillbillies in Cypress
[00:38] <HeibonJoo> Scenario, I am trying to help a friend setup his computer over A remote D
[00:38] * ASk` is now known as ASk
[00:38] <chains> HeibonJoo , can he access the router to forward ports?
[00:38] <blue^moon> wow, what a question
[00:39] <blue^moon> ;)
[00:39] <blue^moon> wish I could help
[00:40] <HeibonJoo> chains: He is currently using a free internet service provided by hit apa
[00:40] <chains> HeibonJoo, at one company i worked for they had some sort of vnc client that
[00:40] <HeibonJoo> and I doubt we would have permission to access any security service on so
[00:40] <chains> there's a few different vendors that have something like this
[00:40] <chains> i think MS has one too
[00:41] <HeibonJoo> chains: I think you are referring to UDP hole punching.
[00:41] <chains> let me see
[00:41] <HeibonJoo> I wish to god I could find it. I have spent nearly 4 hours today scouring
[00:41] <HeibonJoo> Free internet is slave's internet.
[00:44] <chains> heh
[00:44] <chains> i think the client was called Total Support
[00:44] <chains> can't seem to find much on it though
[00:44] <HeibonJoo> one second/
[00:45] <HeibonJoo> Researching.
[00:46] <HeibonJoo> Hmm.. I could not find it right off a few pages of google.
[00:46] <chains> http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2003-October/041226.html
[00:46] <chains> might want to check into something like that
[00:47] <HeibonJoo> Problem: This so called port 5800 is not reacable with his Restrictive Co
[00:48] <HeibonJoo> Alas, thankyou for trying. :)
[00:49] <HeibonJoo> Skype has succeeded in doing this UDP hole punching very well. It is the
[00:49] <chains> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/russel_02january1
[00:49] <chains> how about that?
[00:50] <HeibonJoo> Regardless of how you connect to a Remote Desktop server, if either your
[00:50] <HeibonJoo> Yet again. Sorry. :)
[00:50] <chains> http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-September/047117.html
[00:50] <chains> http://www.xs4all.nl/~harmwal/vnc/readme.html
[00:51] <Martin--> does anyone have any experience using XML-files as a source for excell ? c
[00:51] <chains> VNC clients need to be able to connect out to ports >5900. So you may ru
[00:52] <HeibonJoo> all of them so far have either mentioned a direct connection to the inter
[00:52] <HeibonJoo> And with Restrictive Port NAT solutions, this is impossible to overcome.
[00:53] <HeibonJoo> Imagine a user who has forgotten the password to his router, turned off U
[00:53] <HeibonJoo> That is what Restrictive Port NAT is.
[00:53] <chains> did you read that last link i posted?
[00:54] <HeibonJoo> VNC client is the part that does the viewing.
[00:54] <HeibonJoo> I am direct connect to the internet (with a secure router).
[00:54] <HeibonJoo> I am the one that has no problem doing the viewing.
[00:54] <HeibonJoo> he needs to server his desktop to me. thats the problem
[00:54] <chains> there must be some ports open
[00:54] <HeibonJoo> Anything that allows the server to bypass his nat address would be most b
[00:54] <HeibonJoo> chains, there are absolutely none.
[00:55] <chains> then wtf
[00:55] <HeibonJoo> Free Internet.
[00:55] <chains> how does he access anything
[00:55] <HeibonJoo> Free food, just remove the E.Coli yourself!
[00:55] <chains> to access anything you need ports open
[00:55] <chains> heh
[00:55] <HeibonJoo> chains, when accessing the web, your browser establishes a connection, wh
[00:56] <HeibonJoo> so chains, ports open themself when you make outgoing connections.
[00:56] <HeibonJoo> As I see right now, what a turn client does is just that.
[00:56] <HeibonJoo> it connects to a certain port on the servers computer, and then that port
[00:56] <HeibonJoo> which is somewhat of a tunnel.
[00:57] <HeibonJoo> Which is what TURN is.
[00:58] <HeibonJoo> Crazy Eh?
[00:58] * Hugh is now known as vanHiLlBi
[00:58] <chains> that sounds like what we used at my last company
[00:58] <chains> we would tell a client to go to this site, download this client, install it,
[00:59] <HeibonJoo> So wish I had it right now.
[01:00] <HeibonJoo> Grrr. Port fowarding is all I ask. Is that so much?
[01:00] * vanHiLlBi is now known as vAnHiLlBi
[01:01] <vAnHiLlBi> hello]
[01:01] <chains> HeibonJoo , http://www-new.experts-exchange.com/Security/Software_Firewalls/
[01:02] <LOLlama> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[01:02] <HeibonJoo> Woot, all I have to do is fork over money in over to see the solution!
[01:02] <chains> haha
[01:03] <blue^moon> try tech republic, its free
[01:03] <blue^moon> http://techrepublic.com.com/
[01:03] <blue^moon> just register and you can search there, you may find something
[01:04] <HeibonJoo> I am looking as we speak, so far... nothing.
[01:04] <chains> HeibonJoo , how about this
[01:04] <chains> http://www.tinyapps.org/docs/vnc/
[01:04] <HeibonJoo> Am I just not asking the right question?
[01:04] <HeibonJoo> OOOO chains... I think you might have struck gold.
[01:04] <blue^moon> no, your question was very clear, just seem to be beyond us
[01:05] <chains> HeibonJoo, yah, sounds like it might work
[01:05] <chains> give it a whirl. worth a shot
[01:05] <vAnHiLlBi> cool
[01:05] <chains> doesn't seem to difficult to do either
[01:05] <chains> nothing is beyond me blue^moon !!
[01:05] <HeibonJoo> Chains.... you just won an internet.
[01:06] <blue^moon> ;)
[01:06] <blue^moon> ebeavis, what are you doing?
[01:06] <HeibonJoo> I must ask you, how did you find this? What question did you ask? Chains
[01:08] <HeibonJoo> Anyone currently using a NAt addressed computer wish to try this?
[01:08] <HeibonJoo> friend is asleep.
[01:08] <blue^moon> lol
[01:08] * vAnHiLlBi is now known as JelliedCa
[01:08] * JelliedCa is now known as IamKing
[01:08] <chains> HeibonJoo, google for " vnc through firewalls
[01:08] * IamKing^ is now known as IamKing
[01:08] <chains> was the 3rd result
[01:08] <HeibonJoo> nice.
[01:09] <chains> i know there are other products that work the same way
[01:09] <chains> just can't think of them
[01:09] <chains> i've been focused on the world of linux lately. spent the last 10 years with
[01:10] <HeibonJoo> less than a week ago I setup ubuntu dual boot on this very laptop.
[01:10] <HeibonJoo> linux, is just so intelligent, if only it would implement more features r
[01:12] <HeibonJoo> sorry idechat. I will quit.
[01:12] <HeibonJoo> idlechat*
[01:12] <HeibonJoo> Thankyou for your help
[01:12] <chains> np
[01:12] <chains> good luck
[01:12] <chains> hope it works out
[01:12] <chains> if you see me in here at a later time, let me know
[01:13] <HeibonJoo> will do :)
[01:13] <chains> i'm here usually mon-sat, 11pm - 8am EST
[01:16] <bananasna> Alright, when I listen to music without my headphones my speakers are not
[01:16] <bananasna> ?
[01:16] <bananasna> \dfsg\h
[01:16] <bananasna> sorry
[01:17] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops
[01:17] <HeibonJoo> It could be bad headphones(test headphones on another music source to dis
[01:18] <HeibonJoo> Or if you are really talented, solder another headphone jack on your soun
[01:19] <bananasna> Hm, thanks for the help. I will try drivers, as I have already tested dif
[01:19] <IamKing> thankfully, I have a headphone jack right on the volume wired remote for my
[01:19] <HeibonJoo> In an unlikely event, all headphones are bad ( to disprove test them all
[01:20] * IamKing thinks it's a bad jack :P
[01:20] <HeibonJoo> :)
[01:21] <HeibonJoo> Also, bananasna try cleaning out the jack, as dirt can cause a very fault
[01:21] <bananasna> I tried the headphones with my iPod and they seem to work fine...
[01:21] <bananasna> hmm, let me try that, very good idea :P
[01:21] * pixil twiddles thumbs
[01:22] * HeibonJoo tiwddles toes
[01:23] <HeibonJoo> Well yet again, thankyou all for helping me, and chain, it seems that one
[01:23] <HeibonJoo> Goodnight.
[01:27] <chains> no problem, good luck
[01:27] <chains> and good nite
[01:33] <Joops> Is it possible (likely?) that if I chatted with dell sales tomorrow, I could
[01:33] <Joops> or will they say "there is nothing we can do"?
[01:34] <IamKing> what's so big about tomorrow?
[01:34] <Joops> Its when I feel I am ready to make a purchase if I can get a deal on shipping
[01:35] <IamKing> what deal?
[01:35] <Joops> I have a $50 credit if I make a purchase do to their fuckup last month, and a
[01:35] <blue^moon> we can't answer that Joops
[01:35] <Joops> Neither can dell.
[01:36] <Joops> They send be between departments all day
[01:36] <KensinTo> You might have a better chance if you open your call by saying "I am a sad
[01:36] <Joops> I told them I was a poor college student
[01:36] <chains> keep contacting them via email
[01:36] <bananasna> Is the correct term open-source or open sorce?
[01:36] <bananasna> source*
[01:37] <chains> then after 3 attempts, tell them the next time you contact them it'll be thr
[01:38] <IamKing> bananasna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
[01:39] <bananasna> sometimes, the hyphen is my enemy.
[01:41] <Jason_R> I'm creating a set of actions to perform in Photoshop CS2. The set involve
[01:41] <Jason_R> document". Since the desired destination is not always the "previous docu
[01:41] <IamKing> English can be a pain in the ass sometimes...I make use of http://www.m-w.c
[01:44] <Joops> If my dell preferred account claims an APR rate of 27.4%, does that mean that
[01:44] <torn> jesus
[01:45] <torn> 27%
[01:45] <torn> !
[01:45] <Joops> or does it mean that if I buy a $1000 laptop, the maximum interest I'll pay i
[01:45] <Jason_R> 27.4
[01:45] <Jason_R> lol
[01:45] <torn> thats outragerous
[01:45] <torn> outrageous*
[01:45] <Joops> what does it mean?
[01:45] <Jason_R> first of all: why are you buying a computer on credit
[01:45] <Jason_R> and second, why would you accept, and then actually USE an account with a 2
[01:45] <torn> its 27% per month on whatevers left to pay
[01:45] <Jason_R> Joops: how old are you?
[01:45] <torn> no fucking kidding
[01:45] <Joops> I am working on getting to use the 6 month interest free promo but they are f
[01:45] <Joops> 23
[01:45] <blue^moon> language pls
[01:46] <torn> bah
[01:46] <torn> ive never seen interest that high
[01:46] <blue^moon> look at the back of your gas card
[01:46] <Joops> I dont have a gas card
[01:46] <Jason_R> I believe that's the highest allowed
[01:46] <blue^moon> those usually run about 30
[01:46] <Jason_R> Joops: have you built any credit previously?
[01:47] <Joops> I financed $6000 and paid off $5000 in 6 months
[01:47] <Jason_R> so you still owe $1000?
[01:47] <Jason_R> you're talking about the dell?
[01:47] <Jason_R> or a previous account
[01:47] <Joops> dental
[01:47] <Jason_R> oh
[01:47] <Joops> I'm trying to figure out the APR and how it works. if an apr rate is 27.4%, d
[01:47] <Jason_R> I don't know if that counts the same?
[01:48] <Jason_R> I believe so
[01:48] <bananasna> Is linux a proper noun?
[01:48] <Jason_R> but I don't know because I try not to carry balances
[01:48] <Jason_R> if you have to carry balances, it means you can't afford it
[01:48] <blue^moon> http://banking.about.com/od/loans/a/calculateapr.htm
[01:48] <bananasna> yo Joops, do you want an APR formula?
[01:49] <bananasna> It is used to figure out APR based on PMT, amount owed, and so on...
[01:49] <bananasna> If you know algebra it is extremely easy to use
[01:49] <Joops> I just want to understand: using blue^moon link: If I finance $1000 at say 10
[01:50] <Joops> You can see if 10% is added at the end of every cycle that is a big problem
[01:50] <Joops> Thats what im trying to understand
[01:51] <blue^moon> yeah, there was some truth in lending legislation that went thru a few ye
[01:52] <Joops> blue^moon: do you have credit experience? Which is true? Will the 10% APR be
[01:53] <blue^moon> I never had to calculate it
[01:53] <blue^moon> but no, they don't do the full amount per billing cycle
[01:53] <Triona> APR is annual.
[01:53] <Triona> That's what you'd pay per year.
[01:53] <blue^moon> but do you remember a while back, they made some changes, they called it
[01:54] <pixil> Truth in Lending Act. I remeber that.
[01:54] <pixil> remember...
[01:54] * pixil flips the clock off
[01:54] <bananasna> dude, this is REALLY basic algebra.
[01:54] <bananasna> heh
[01:54] <iNToIT> find out how they compound the interest
[01:54] <iNToIT> that's more important
[01:54] <KaMiKaZa> should i buy hddvd or bluray burner?
[01:54] <blue^moon> http://www.smartagreements.com/bltopics/Bltopi41.html
[01:54] <pixil> KaMiKaZa: No and no
[01:54] <iNToIT> burner? blu-ray stores more data
[01:54] <KaMiKaZa> why?
[01:54] <pixil> Oh burner.
[01:55] <bananasna> Is it compounded annually, monthly, weekly, daily?
[01:55] <iNToIT> KaMiKaZa because blu-ray has more storage capacity per disk. still.. don't b
[01:55] <KaMiKaZa> iNToIT> hddvd stores more data by 1gb
[01:55] <Joops> Thats what I'm wondering
[01:55] <blue^moon> that's going to depend on the individual credit agreement
[01:55] <iNToIT> KaMiKaZa uhh no..
[01:55] <bananasna> I know it's retarded to do for your small debt, but you could input the d
[01:55] <iNToIT> KaMiKaZa your facts are incorrect
[01:55] <Joops> It says the STANDARD DAILY PERIODIC RATE IS: 0.07463%
[01:55] <KaMiKaZa> bluray 50gb double layer
[01:55] <pixil> iNToIT: There's a tiny bit of truth to that.
[01:55] <KaMiKaZa> hddvd 51gb triple layer
[01:55] <pixil> oh
[01:55] <pixil> that's not right at all
[01:56] <iNToIT> *triple layer*
[01:56] <bananasna> what is your actual APR?
[01:56] <pixil> and hddvd is not 51 or 50. it's like 25 or 20?
[01:56] <pixil> I personally would not invest in any HD equipment yet.
[01:56] <pixil> Regardless.
[01:56] <iNToIT> per layer, blu-ray stores more data. and 10-layer capacity has been announce
[01:56] <KaMiKaZa> ye..
[01:56] <Joops> ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE IS 27.24%, interest is calculated daily and your stand
[01:57] <Joops> is 0.07463 less than .1% a day?
[01:57] <iNToIT> KaMiKaZa over all, right now.. it's not worth buying either format
[01:57] <KaMiKaZa> ok thanks
[01:57] <Joops> or is it like money, and 0.07 is 7%
[01:57] <iNToIT> Joops that's rape
[01:57] <KaMiKaZa> but i want to backup my 250gb hardisk
[01:57] <bananasna> Wow, interest is compounded daily?
[01:57] <pixil> hahaha
[01:57] <bananasna> You're seriously being fucked in the ass.
[01:58] <Joops> iNToIT: They have an interest free promo for 6 months but I'm getting the run
[01:58] <Joops> Thats why I want to figure this out before I buy
[01:58] <bananasna> Joops: What are the terms of the loan?
[01:58] <iNToIT> joops forget it, go elsewhere
[01:58] <blue^moon> you know that's why i kick you outta here
[01:58] <Joops> iNToIT: I tried applying for an interest free credit card and got a low balan
[01:58] <bananasna> Joops: How much is the loan, @ 27.24% compounded daily?
[01:58] <pixil> interest free credit card?
[01:59] <Joops> interest free promo for 6 month period
[01:59] <pixil> Sounds like a scam.
[01:59] <pixil> I'd scram.
[01:59] <blue^moon> isn't that usually balance xfers
[01:59] <pixil> :o
[01:59] <iNToIT> joops, cancel the card, find a realistic offer
[01:59] <KaMiKaZa> can i have advice how to backup 250gb hardisk?
[01:59] <Joops> I want to buy my notebook, I cant pay in full due to owing $1200 more for my
[02:00] <Joops> I will be able to pay it off as soon as I start my 2nd job
[02:00] <Triona> promo rates usually charge the full interest retroactively if you havn't pai
[02:00] <iNToIT> KaMiKaZa how do you want to back it up?
[02:00] <Joops> I can pay my balance in 2.5 months, I just need interest free for 3 months
[02:00] <pixil> KaMiKaZa: Recommend just purchasing a RAID setup.
[02:02] <iNToIT> joops, relying on money you don't have yet = disaster
[02:02] <blue^moon> this is true
[02:02] <Joops> blue^moon: I'm selling my laptop I have now. Even at 27% rapery APR, if I pay
[02:02] <iNToIT> and doing it on a daily compounded high-interest APR = catastrophic debt
[02:03] <blue^moon> I don't use credit, very rarely
[02:03] <KensinTo> oh, why are synths and midi keyboards so expensive
[02:03] <blue^moon> if I don't have the cash, I don't buy
[02:03] <iNToIT> I use credit for stuff I can afford already, for benefits like building up a
[02:03] <blue^moon> Ive done htat so long,I don't think about ti
[02:03] <blue^moon> I have a credit card, first one I've had in years and years
[02:03] <iNToIT> but I keep it paid off with just enough balance left to build more credit
[02:04] <Joops> Can and will dell be able to give me a straight answer to this question if I
[02:04] <blue^moon> but big purchases, like replacing my AC, the flooring, I wait for tax ret
[02:04] <pixil> This is for Dell?
[02:04] <Joops> yes
[02:04] <pixil> Isn't Dell still facing 3 class-action lawsuites regarding their financing se
[02:05] <Joops> is that a reasonable question to expect a solid answer for?
[02:05] <iNToIT> joops you have to contact the right people at dell, not just the 1st line ph
[02:05] <Joops> or will I get misinfo and the run around
[02:05] <Joops> Yes I've called dell financial services
[02:05] <iNToIT> joops, or e-mail their customer_advocate@dell.com and wait 3 days for an ans
[02:05] <iNToIT> it all depends on the rep you get
[02:05] <iNToIT> some reps know their shit, some don't
[02:05] <pixil> And how the stars are lined up
[02:05] <iNToIT> if they sound confused, they likely are
[02:06] <Joops> I keep getting reps that dont know english at all
[02:06] <iNToIT> just send your question to that e-mail address I gave you
[02:06] <iNToIT> and keep me updated
[02:06] <Joops> They say they'll call me back and they do, but they dont answer my question a
[02:06] <Joops> im very upset with dells customer support and they dont seem to want my busin
[02:07] <iNToIT> I've been dealing with that very issue :)
[02:07] <iNToIT> Now I know "the right people" at dell. So do what I'm telling you. And let m
[02:07] <Joops> What email is that one you provided?
[02:08] <iNToIT> it's an address they established recently for customers who are getting insu
[02:08] <iNToIT> *from
[02:08] <Joops> Should I email that address all my concerns, such as getting run around and t
[02:08] <iNToIT> keep it short, concise and detailed.
[02:08] <iNToIT> so you don't confuse the issue
[02:09] <iNToIT> they already know they have problems
[02:09] <iNToIT> just work on the problem you have.
[02:09] <Joops> Perhaps they'll compensate me for my hassles a little?
[02:09] <iNToIT> don't go seeking compensation for just getting a question answered
[02:09] <iNToIT> then they have a reason to ignore you
[02:10] <Joops> I wont, I will write now and just state all my concerns that I've run in to w
[02:10] <iNToIT> if you sound like you're being "mr. entitled" you'll get put into the "assho
[02:10] <Joops> and say I am very disappointed as a repeat dell customer
[02:10] <Joops> yes thanks
[02:10] <Joops> would you like to proof read my email
[02:10] <iNToIT> sure
[02:10] <Joops> or do you trust me, 'dad'
[02:10] <Joops> ;)
[02:10] <Joops> Stand by
[02:10] <ALANYALI> I FROM TURKEY
[02:10] <ALANYALI> YOU
[02:10] <iNToIT> I'm telling you how to get your issue resolved
[02:11] <pixil> ALANYALI: Not here, please. This is a help channel, not a chat channel...
[02:11] <iNToIT> ALANYALI wrong channel
[02:11] <ALANYALI> YOU SPEAK ENGLIS
[02:14] <KensinTo> Ýngiliz biricik, Alanyali.
[02:14] <iNToIT> KensinTo, please let ALANYALI know that this channel isn't a good place to p
[02:17] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops
[02:29] <Joops> Although I have no moral objections to outsourcing, I think some jobs are bet
[02:31] <Psy-X> i have to agree w/ you
[02:31] <Psy-X> over the summer i worked as a tech rep for an ISP.. i wish i could talk to my
[02:32] <chains> i don't see why dell and other outsourcing vendors don't hire customer/tech
[02:32] <Psy-X> $$$
[02:32] <Psy-X> costs way more here
[02:32] <Joops> This is what that customer advocate email said:
[02:32] <chains> well
[02:32] <chains> i would think there are plenty of people willing to work for less if they ca
[02:32] <Joops> Dell is a global company, and as such we are committed to hiring the most qua
[02:32] <chains> maybe not as cheap as indians
[02:32] <Joops> Dell is dedicated to providing the best customer experience possible, and we
[02:32] <chains> but i'm sure they can find a happy medium
[02:33] <Joops> thats pure bullshit
[02:33] <Psy-X> hell, they'll make more money if their cust service was local.. customer sati
[02:33] <Psy-X> AOL was the worst.. i tried to cancel my free trail dial up
[02:33] <Psy-X> and got an indian person
[02:33] <Psy-X> i have nothing against indians, but this guy was inaudible
[02:34] <Psy-X> and very hard to work with anyhow, so i got my best friend (indian) to just t
[02:36] <blue^moon> my job is going to manila
[02:36] <Psy-X> what is your job?
[02:36] <blue^moon> support
[02:36] <blue^moon> b2b application support
[02:36] <blue^moon> so I think outsourcing sucks
[02:37] <blue^moon> I can't even understand our employees over there
[02:38] <Psy-X> i have a friend who's a retired b2b app support
[02:38] <blue^moon> but not only has it pissed off the customers, its totally destroyed moral
[02:38] <blue^moon> yea?
[02:38] <Psy-X> he told me b2b app support can't be outsourced, as its business to business,
[02:39] <blue^moon> guess again
[02:39] <blue^moon> $$ talks
[02:39] <Psy-X> i believe he was working out of AU and it was being outsoured to SG
[02:39] <Psy-X> $$ talks, true
[02:40] <Psy-X> the outsourcing failed, they had to return it to AU
[02:40] <blue^moon> we'll see how it goes when its the customer's money doin the talking
[02:40] <blue^moon> the whole job isn't going, its the nights and weekends
[02:40] <blue^moon> which is what I do
[02:40] <Psy-X> ouch :S
[02:40] <blue^moon> so back to day shift, grrrrrr
[02:40] <blue^moon> big pay cut
[02:40] <blue^moon> <--- not a happy camper
[02:41] <blue^moon> I'd have a lot more respect for the execs if they'd just say, we're phasi
[02:41] <blue^moon> instead of saying No, everything is fine, its great.......
[02:41] <blue^moon> as the job goes away piece by piece
[02:42] <blue^moon> oh well, that's life in the big city, eh?
[02:43] <IamKing> Psy-X: I used to work for an ISP's tech support for 3.5 years...long time
[02:43] <KensinTo> What job do you hold?
[02:43] <blue^moon> my title?
[02:44] <KensinTo> Aye.
[02:44] <KensinTo> oh, I didn't see you mention it before
[02:44] <blue^moon> PCS Americas Support Analyst
[02:44] <blue^moon> bla bla bla
[02:44] <blue^moon> ;)
[02:45] <Psy-X> IamKing, i worked for a ResNet ISP.. handles university campus internet.. lov
[02:45] <blue^moon> IamKing, but they are supported out of Bangalore now
[02:45] <blue^moon> brute force
[02:45] <IamKing> Psy-X: I used to work for a national ISP...I got fired for chewing out my
[02:45] <Psy-X> haha
[02:45] <blue^moon> end user support is just awful, I'd quit if I did that in this environmen
[02:46] <IamKing> there were a lot of customers in the deep south
[02:46] <IamKing> heh
[02:46] <HeibonJoo> chains: May I send you a pm?
[02:46] <IamKing> couldn't go too fast with them...time goes slower down there
[02:46] <blue^moon> hey now
[02:46] <Psy-X> IamKing, ALL the customers were in the deep south, cept for maybe a couple in
[02:46] <IamKing> I loved doing support via IRC...I'd give people the cold hard facts
[02:47] <IamKing> "how can I get 56K?" "MOVE!"
[02:47] <blue^moon> hehe
[02:47] <HeibonJoo> Idlechat.
[02:47] <blue^moon> indeed
[02:47] <blue^moon> I don't think chains is around right now
[02:47] <IamKing> I am going to bed anyway...almost 6 am :P
[02:47] <HeibonJoo> I always get talkative when I am sleepy.
[02:47] <blue^moon> he hasn't been active since you were working on that stuff
[02:48] * IamKing searchs for his coffin
[02:48] <HeibonJoo> Well please tell him that his suggestions did in fact work with flying co
[02:48] <HeibonJoo> I was able to help setup my friends computer wit ease.
[02:48] <chains> nice
[02:49] <chains> good to hear that
[02:49] <HeibonJoo> :D
[02:49] <HeibonJoo> Your googley powers are astounding chains.
[02:49] <IamKing> had a guy who tried to hotswap an ISA modem :P he had the ignorance (or
[02:49] <chains> come on now blue^moon , you know you have my #
[02:50] <chains> you could've called ;)
[02:50] <HeibonJoo> Well good night.
[02:50] <chains> take care dude
[02:50] <blue^moon> shhh
[02:50] <blue^moon> ;)
[02:51] <blue^moon> IamKing, there are so many good end user stories
[02:51] <chains> ok, it'll be our little secret...
[02:51] <blue^moon> k
[02:52] <IamKing> I remember there used to be a web site that had a collection of all the hor
[02:52] <blue^moon> I actually would have told you tonight if you wouldn' thave popped in
[02:52] <evilgene> Can someone help me out with a dvd problem? I just got back from england w
[02:52] <IamKing> god, I loved the one woman screaming and bitching at the M$ rep
[02:52] <IamKing> hahahah
[02:52] <evilgene> My dvd player is region free.
[02:53] <chains> are you a foreigner?
[02:53] <evilgene> I know that video games have NTSC and PAL is this the same with movies?
[02:53] <blue^moon> I heard one with a guy that sent in his HDD and they formatted it
[02:53] <blue^moon> so funny
[02:53] <blue^moon> what you can understand, cuz he's screaming like a banshee
[02:53] <evilgene> im american chains
[02:55] <chains> evilgene , yes, movies are either NTSC or PAL
[02:55] <evilgene> Anyone know?
[02:55] <chains> NTSC is the US format
[02:55] <evilgene> and that is different from region free right?
[02:56] <evilgene> region i mean
[02:56] <blue^moon> pal is european I believe
[02:56] <evilgene> my dvd player is regiion free
[02:56] <Treval> Yup it is.
[02:56] <blue^moon> not sure what they mean, but I've seen that
[02:56] <evilgene> yes pal is european
[02:56] <KensinTo> PAL is also used in Australia, New Zealand and a few other area.s
[02:56] <ssbsts> pal is eur asia uk and aust
[02:56] <KensinTo> PAL has a higher resolution.
[02:56] <ssbsts> ntsc is all other countries
[02:56] <evilgene> Ok so can I convert my dvd to NTSC?
[02:57] <ssbsts> yeah and nz
[02:57] <ssbsts> :)
[02:57] <evilgene> or can I buy a dvd player that is Pal and NTSC compatible
[02:57] <ssbsts> yes
[02:57] <erki> evilgene: Yes, it can be done, but it's not entirely easy. Check doom9.org or
[02:57] <Op|um> anyone done windows xp VPN server? does it support multiple (concurrent) conn
[02:57] <evilgene> yea i saw on videohelp
[02:58] <ssbsts> depends where you live
[02:58] <chains> evilgene , if its region free i would think you shouldn't have any problems
[02:58] <ssbsts> im in aust and all dvd players are ntsc and pal compatible
[02:58] <KensinTo> Yes, and so are all Australian TVs.
[02:58] <evilgene> but I was hoping for a quick solution like a aio program or if anyone knew
[02:58] <KensinTo> I can even use mine in PAL-60, which combines the best elements of PAL and
[02:59] <evilgene> thats what i thought chains but not so
[02:59] <KensinTo> evilgene, sure it's not your TV? it would be unusual if your DVD player co
[02:59] <erki> Op|um: From what I can determine on this page: http://www.onecomputerguy.com/n
[02:59] <evilgene> my dvd player does ntsc
[02:59] <evilgene> not pal
[02:59] <blue^moon> were the dvds commercially made, or homemade?
[02:59] <evilgene> it works on a friends dvd player
[02:59] <KensinTo> Ask it to try harder.
[02:59] <evilgene> commercial
[03:00] <evilgene> but his dvd player is a modded xbox dvd player
[03:00] <evilgene> i just found a couple cool dvds in blackpool that had different covers and
[03:01] <evilgene> i dont really wanna reformat and go through and hour of crap to get a burn
[03:02] <evilgene> do you guys know if apex plays pal and ntsc? or know any off the top of yo
[03:03] <fbx> is there an easy way to download a picture from a website that is all flash
[03:03] <fwee> help )=
[03:03] <erki> fbx: Screenshot
[03:04] <erki> fwee: Just ask!
[03:04] <fwee> i need help getting my ident working
[03:04] <fwee> was figuring out how to best phrase my question..
[03:04] <erki> Open port 113 in any router/firewall
[03:04] <fwee> i got my lil router configuration page open in IE, just dunno where to open th
[03:04] <erki> What brand?
[03:04] <fwee> linksys
[03:05] <erki> Applications&Gaming
[03:05] <fwee> ok good thats where i am
[03:05] <fwee> port range forwarding/port trigger/UPnP forwarding are the tabs
[03:05] <fwee> that have me uber confused
[03:06] <erki> You want "Port Range Forwarding"
[03:07] <erki> Application: Ident, Start: 113, End: 113, Protocol: TCP(not sure, might be bot
[03:07] <fwee> application "mirc"/start "113 end "113"/ protocol ?/ ip just put in my own?
[03:07] <fwee> hehe
[03:08] <fwee> sorry to make this more complicated than it needs to be but the ipaddress says
[03:08] <erki> Local IP address, so 192.168.1.?. Run "cmd" and then "ipconfig" to get your ip
[03:09] <fwee> oh
[03:09] <eieiu> is there a way to download the source of a php file from a website
[03:09] <erki> eieiu: Not without ftp access
[03:09] <erki> eieiu: Or if its source is posted somewhere
[03:10] <fwee> should i need to do something more than disconnect/reconnect?
[03:10] <erki> No, that should do, if you've saved the settings on the router
[03:10] <fwee> gotta wait a few before i can disconnect/reconnect so i dont get booted from a
[03:10] <KensinTo> Argh, Hotmail won't let me sign up an account for some reason.
[03:11] <KensinTo> Perhaps it hates firefox?
[03:11] <erki> KensinTo: I don't think so. It might just be down.
[03:11] <blue^moon> but it really does hate firefox
[03:11] <KensinTo> The site's up, though, it's just that the sign up box disappears as soon a
[03:15] <KensinTo> And when I try it in iexplore, it stll won't work: the secret question opt
[03:16] <blue^moon> I don't know what could cause that to happen only there
[03:17] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops
[03:17] <KensinTo> It might be because of some bad things I said about Microsof a few years a
[03:20] <blue^moon> naw, then all the computers in the world would be screwed up
[03:29] <Bronso> how can I record a voice out to MP3?
[03:30] <erki> Voice out? Line out?
[03:32] <Samuray> help me
[03:33] <erki> Samuray: Just ask!
[03:33] <Samuray> yes
[03:33] <Samuray> me bnc please
[03:33] <KensinTo> Audacity.
[03:33] <KensinTo> Audacity + microphone.
[03:33] <Samuray> ?
[03:33] <blue^moon> ?? bnc
[03:33] <RBL> bnc[x]: No definition found for word.
[03:34] <blue^moon> ask a whole question
[03:34] <Samuray> bnc me please
[03:34] <blue^moon> we don't do that
[03:34] <blue^moon> ?? services
[03:34] <RBL> services: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your
[03:36] <Samuray> please bot me
[03:36] <blue^moon> we don't have services
[03:36] <blue^moon> if you want a bot, you have to go get one yourself
[03:37] <valenteen> is there such a thing as audio rss feeds?
[03:37] <iNToIT> yes
[03:38] <valenteen> any good ones? from cnn, bbc, etc?
[03:38] <Samuray> please me ircop
[03:38] <Samuray> ./oper user pass
[03:38] <blue^moon> NO
[03:38] <Samuray> :(
[03:38] <blue^moon> I don't know how many ways to tell you we don't have services
[03:38] <iNToIT> valenteen dunno. google audio rss
[03:38] <iNToIT> see what comes up
[03:39] <blue^moon> alot of hits, I just don't understand them
[03:39] <Middleman> what u guys talkin bout?
[03:39] <blue^moon> audio rss feeds
[03:39] <Middleman> kool
[03:39] <iNToIT> iw as talking to valenteen
[03:39] <Samuray> admin:nick
[03:39] <Samuray> ?
[03:40] <iNToIT> blue^moon do you understand what an rss feed is?
[03:40] <iNToIT> Samuray #irchelp
[03:40] <Samuray> okz
[03:40] <blue^moon> [06:39] <@blue^moon> alot of hits, I just don't understand them
[03:40] <blue^moon> I don't use them
[03:40] <iNToIT> i don't either
[03:40] <Middleman> me neither
[03:40] <iNToIT> but i know what they are
[03:42] <valenteen> okay, so i was gonna ask you if i had a client capable of playing rss fee
[03:42] <iNToIT> rss is a form of information syndication.. a site pumps out items, like a li
[03:42] <iNToIT> different readers have different capabilities
[03:43] <iNToIT> it's like a new spin on newgroups and newsgroupreaders
[03:43] <blue^moon> looking at google they seem to be equating podcasts and rss audio
[03:43] <iNToIT> yes
[03:43] <iNToIT> podcasts are usually syndicated with rss
[03:44] <iNToIT> you can go to the site and keep checking to see if a new podcast is posted,
[03:44] <blue^moon> ahhh
[03:45] <Dr-Drew> rss use XML, correct?
[03:45] <valenteen> yep
[03:45] <valenteen> i am unsure of the audio version
[03:46] <iNToIT> the audio "version" is based on the rss client/reader.. if it's written to "
[03:46] <blue^moon> God, I have an eweek in front of me on rss in the enterprise
[03:46] <iNToIT> *follow
[03:46] <iNToIT> heh
[03:47] <valenteen> ?
[03:50] <faec> when a bank makes a mistake like putting money in the wrong account do you get
[03:55] <ASk> מ×
[03:55] <ASk> no
[03:57] <valenteen> this may be a dumb question but how do i get the shoutcast location for a
[03:57] <iNToIT> faec even if they forget to adjust it now, they *will* figure it out at some
[04:00] <valenteen> http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/xmlconfig.php?CALLSIGN=KROQFM&nobuf=1
[04:00] <faec> ah ok
[04:00] <Goofi> How I read pdf's in x64 vista?
[04:01] <faec> download adobe acrobat
[04:01] <faec> just like x86 windows
[04:01] <Goofi> no
[04:01] <Goofi> it dont support x64 vista
[04:01] <faec> it doesnt support x64 IE maybe
[04:01] <Goofi> no
[04:03] <faec> it doesnt make sense that it wouldn't work now at this point with vista hittin
[04:03] <zzap> Hey blue^moon. You there?
[04:04] <faec> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=333643
[04:04] <faec> ohh yeah
[04:04] <faec> you're right
[04:04] <faec> i remember the same thing installing on vista now that you mention it
[04:08] <erki> Does anyone know if it's valid to put a line break inside a tag in xml? I have
[04:11] <Noboru> i have a question please about harddrive
[04:11] <Noboru> usually,the position of a hdd is lie down in the box right
[04:11] <erki> Noboru: Yes
[04:12] <Noboru> so if i turn it 90 degrees,will this danmage it or what ?
[04:12] <Noboru> i dont know if my english is understandable
[04:12] <erki> Noboru: Many external harddrives are upright, so I'd think it doesn't matter a
[04:12] <erki> *much
[04:13] <Noboru> oh yeah, erki ,i mean,now its upright,by default it is thwart
[04:15] <erki> Noboru: I can't find any information that says it would be bad to have a hard
[04:16] <Noboru> erki, many thanks :) i will let it go.
[04:16] <Noboru> cuz if i put the box in the standard position,i sometimes lose ethernet in w
[04:17] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops
[04:17] <Noboru> windows even
[04:17] <erki> Noboru: Yeah, that sounds strange enough!
[04:17] <Noboru> okay
[04:34] <ers> is it possible to add "notes" in powerpoint that only is shown on the computer.
[04:35] <ki11erbee> hello
[04:36] <ki11erbee> i have a computer question that i was wondering if someone could help me
[04:38] <DeepN3lue> whre can i find flash developers help?
[04:38] <DeepN3lue> channel
[04:40] <belter> http://www.efnet.org/?module=channels here the channel search page
[04:41] <Samuray> #zt help
[04:42] <ASk> <ers> is it possible to add "notes" in powerpoint that only is shown on t
[04:42] <ASk> yeah
[04:42] <ASk> view->slide notes, or something like that
[04:43] <ASk> it depends if the projector is acting as a 2nd monitor
[04:43] <ASk> or as a substitute for the primary
[04:43] <ASk> because in the latter case, it's obviously impossible
[04:44] <ASk> (latter case also applies to the computer monitor being driven by a VGA signal
[04:45] * Usnul is now known as Goldfinge
[04:47] * Goldfinge is now known as Oldfinger
[04:49] <Treval> hello
[04:49] <hanzo> hello, Treval
[04:49] <Treval> Has anyone got a decent download source for F.E.A.R. demo? I tried gamershel
[04:49] <Treval> :P
[04:55] <Groom> kaip prisijungti prie kito pwz kaip rasyti ten irc.le.lt
[04:55] <Groom> ?
[05:01] <Op|um> anyone know how to get windows xp (32-bit) to manage more than 3gb of ram (ac
[05:02] <FishFace> I dont. But that is odd.
[05:03] <Triona> Op|um: 4GB is the max on a 32bit version I think.
[05:03] <Triona> it's all that can be addressed.
[05:03] <Op|um> i know
[05:03] <Op|um> but my xp shows 3gb
[05:03] <qw_> I just broke my MBR and need some help. I installed Windows Vista on C: then ri
[05:03] <Op|um> while ive got 4gb
[05:03] <Op|um> :)
[05:03] <Op|um> how to solve?
[05:03] <Triona> does BIOS show 4GB?
[05:03] <Op|um> yep
[05:04] <Op|um> heard something about a "/FAE" parameter in boot.ini
[05:04] <belter> always load the newest os last
[05:06] <qw_> belter - was that to me?
[05:06] <qw_> I'm thinking maybe I'll install GRUB or something
[05:07] <Saww> how can i put timestamp in messenger?
[05:08] <Saww> and what's WBGO?
[05:08] <FishFace> qw_: There are some tips in Google. Like this one. It seems to be the only
[05:08] <FishFace> Besides something like grub I guess.
[05:09] <qw_> FishFace - thanks, I will look at this
[05:09] <FishFace> k
[05:09] <qw_> FishFace - ah, I've already done fixmbr
[05:10] <Saww> anyone for me? :|
[05:10] <Op|um> is windows xp x64 backwards compatible with 32-bit software?
[05:11] <qw_> FishFace - but thanks. I will try and switch the active flag on my primary part
[05:11] <FishFace> Yeah
[05:11] <FishFace> Via notepad or something?
[05:11] <qw_> Huh?
[05:12] <qw_> There's a fdiskish utility in the recovery console on my windows xp CD if I rem
[05:12] <FishFace> They say the mbr is hidden in C. And that you can edit it. I havent had to
[05:12] <FishFace> This gets asked a lot
[05:12] <qw_> Ah I don't have a working windows installation at all right now
[05:12] <FishFace> ?? mbr
[05:12] <qw_> so I have to do it with a live CD or a recovery console of some sort
[05:12] <FishFace> Yeah
[05:12] <Noboru> does anyone know if Intel Yonah Cpu also has that type of wireless feature b
[05:17] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help: JUST ASK! NO Illegal/Bots/Scripts/Homework/MSGing Ops
[05:18] <w3bb> does anyone know if i am able to download an update that will let me go from W
[05:24] <Oggy> $$$$
[05:25] <Genghis> whats that r&b song that has the line "I may be dumb, but i'm not blind?"
[05:26] <bizinichi> whats a way to say "on one unimportant day"
[05:27] <bizinichi> what else does it say
[05:28] <bizinichi> proper r&b or popular r&b?
[05:31] <FishFace> Genghis: Is it like this?
[05:31] <FishFace> Girl what the hell is on your mind
[05:31] <FishFace> I could be dumb but I'm not blind
[05:31] <FishFace> There's somethin leakin in your mind
[05:35] <Treval> How much bandwidth does IRC take to connect? 1 KB? LOL! Because whenever I'm
[05:38] <zAlanM> tons
[05:39] <zAlanM> just tons
[05:39] <zAlanM> anybody here ever play w/ a nokia n800?
[05:44] <Reloaded> Anybody has configured his Out Look Office to communicate with his gmail a
[05:45] <Genghis> yes
[05:45] <Genghis> fishface
[05:45] <Genghis> whats that called
[05:46] <FishFace> Genghis: I Need A Girl (Part Two) (feat. Loon, Ginuwine & Mario Winans)
[05:46] <FishFace> Lyrics are here - http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/print_song/5512.html
[05:47] <Genghis> tyty
[05:47] <FishFace> Yep
[05:51] <bizinichi> zAlanM are you getting a nokia n800?
[05:57] <Genghis> wait for Iphone
[05:57] <Genghis> it's $$
[05:58] <zAlanM> I'm thinking about an n800, yeah
[05:58] <zAlanM> iphone is nice, but I don't need/want a phone
[05:59] <zAlanM> I do want an ebook reader though, and a new media player would be cool too
[06:00] <zAlanM> I'm sort of wondering what extra software was available for them, and how th
[06:00] <zAlanM> oh well... i'll figure it out
[06:01] <zAlanM> i think that screen might still be smaller than I want
[06:01] <qw_> What is a good utility Live CD?
[06:06] <jan3sobie> where can i get help with a furnace?
[06:07] <compdoc> if you dont fix it right, you might end up choking to death on carbon monox
[06:07] <FishFace> What the furnace problem?
[06:14] <jan3sobie> oh, well, the blower runs almost all the time
[06:15] <compdoc> is it heating too?
[06:16] <jan3sobie> the furnace will light the burners, about 15 seconds later the blower sta
[06:17] <jan3sobie> yeah, it's making heat
[06:17] <Middleman> what?!
[06:17] <Middleman> confusin
[06:17] <FishFace> Wow
[06:17] <Middleman> wow?
[06:17] * Middleman is now known as Kermi
[06:18] <FishFace> Sounds like more of a thermostat problem than anything
[06:18] * Kermi is now known as Middleman
[06:18] <jan3sobie> it's blowing heat, but the problem is that when the burners turn off, it'
[06:18] <compdoc> thats controlled by a device that measures temps. you should be able to adj
[06:18] <willliam> hi everyone, i've just bought a cross over cable to connect my friend's PC
[06:18] <jan3sobie> where's the device?
[06:19] <willliam> but i want to know at what speed it's connected
[06:19] <compdoc> but you want it to run until all the heat is blown out into the house
[06:19] <willliam> how can i test that? :P
[06:19] <compdoc> depends on the furnace
[06:19] <jan3sobie> well, i'm sitting in front of the computer, and i can feel cold air blowi
[06:19] <FishFace> willliam: Have you looked at the task manager and the Networking tab while
[06:20] <jan3sobie> it's an old lennox
[06:20] <willliam> umm no :P
[06:20] <FishFace> Send each other a big file...at least 100 megs
[06:20] <compdoc> I have an older furnace that has the device in a little box on the side. wh
[06:20] <jan3sobie> yeah, mine has that too
[06:20] <compdoc> I have another furnace that doesnt use one like that, and I dont really kno
[06:20] <jan3sobie> but that's not been opened in years, why would it mess up now?
[06:21] <compdoc> they use two screws - one to turn it on, and one to turn it off. maybe its
[06:21] <jan3sobie> hmm... ok, i'll check it out. Thnx
[06:22] <compdoc> youre in for a shock if you think mechanical things dont ever change
[06:22] <jan3sobie> heh
[06:41] <willliam> FishFace: ok did that, sorry for the late reply
[06:42] <willliam> speed during transfer is 50% of 100mbps
[06:42] <mmm> is there any disadvantage to setting up a small network where a laptop on the n
[06:42] <mmm> ?
[06:42] <willliam> does that mean the max speed connection between the PCs is 100mbps? :P
[06:44] <CompWizrd> it'll tell you in network connections in control panel.. click on the loc
[06:44] <willliam> and then?
[06:45] <CompWizrd> you'll see a 100mbps or 1gbit or whatever
[06:45] <willliam> okie dokie :P
[06:45] <willliam> but sometimes i know it shows up as 100mbps but connects only at 10mbps..
[06:45] <FishFace> Not bad willliam
[06:46] <FishFace> Its going to depend on the cards installed. Are either of the network card
[06:47] <willliam> not new ones :P
[06:48] <FishFace> I have seen lots of variables. Someone here might want to help you tweak t
[06:48] <willliam> okie dokie :)
[06:48] <willliam> oh btw i got another question :P
[06:48] <FishFace> Like sending a large file to a fairly fragged machine that hasnt seen a de
[06:48] <willliam> how do u download from ir?
[06:48] <willliam> irc i mean :P
[06:49] <CompWizrd> windows file sharing is pretty inefficient as well
[06:49] <CompWizrd> even on gbit i rarely see more than 20-30 meg a second
[06:49] <CompWizrd> but on ftp i've seen 90 meg a second coming off a machine
[06:49] <FishFace> Yep
[06:49] <jroes> does anyone know how to make Outlook put greater than signs in front of the m
[06:50] <FishFace> My best transfers, believe it or not, are ONLY from a linux to a Win98 mac
[06:50] <FishFace> lolol
[06:50] <FishFace> XP tp XP, forget it
[06:50] <CompWizrd> which is still a lot slower than the disks could do, but not bad at all
[06:50] <bizinichi> whats a cliche word for getting your picture taken
[06:50] <bizinichi> cliche phrase
[06:50] <willliam> lol
[06:50] <hanzo> BWHAHA
[06:50] <willliam> oki
[06:50] <Jlawr> hello
[06:50] <hanzo> que tal, Jlawr
[06:51] <Jlawr> what is better quality mpg or avi?
[06:52] <fbx> is there an easy way to download a picture from a website that is flash embedde
[06:54] <QuArTeT> jl: there's different qualities of AVI. AVI could be worse or much better
[06:54] <casino> i dented a bathroom stall a month or two ago and now i cant hit anything wit
[06:54] <casino> i cant even hit my punching bag anymore
[06:54] <CompWizrd> isn't avi just a container for a file.. it could even BE mpg
[06:55] <QuArTeT> casino: take some anger management classes. taht way you won'ot hit the ba
[06:56] <casino> thats not help for now, maybe if we invented a time machine
[06:56] <casino> im comfortable with my anger and thats all i need
[06:57] <FishFace> Maybe its disloacted forever? Knuckle?
[06:57] <casino> i dont think its dislocated, its right where it should be.. i kinda think it
[06:57] <casino> and thats why when it bumps into stuff it stings
[06:57] <FishFace> Or it healed itself back together wrong.
[06:58] <FishFace> Bone doc I suppose. I dred to hear what he has to say.
[06:58] <casino> heh
[06:58] <FishFace> Sports type of doctor
[06:58] <jroes> does anyone know how to make Outlook put greater than signs in front of the m
[06:58] <casino> do it manually ?
[06:58] <casino> <
[06:58] <FishFace> Yipes!
[06:59] <efraat> what that cartoon name marso blame or something?
[06:59] <casino> no idea
[06:59] * casino is now known as KaSiNo
[07:00] <famx> anyone know how to find persons car insurance records by plate number ?
[07:00] <Darn> famx hehe
[07:00] <KaSiNo> i think thats illegal ?
[07:00] <Darn> trying to make some false claims against someone?
[07:01] <KaSiNo> i wouldnt jump to that conclusion :P
[07:01] <KaSiNo> maybe he got hit and only got the guys plate
[07:01] <Darn> so contact the guy
[07:01] <famx> I have this neighbor that always parks on my bumper
[07:01] <KaSiNo> with only the plates?
[07:01] <Darn> call the police
[07:01] <KaSiNo> exactly
[07:01] <KaSiNo> if its legitimate you can ask the police for it and they can run a check
[07:01] <famx> every day everytime he back up his car he hits my bumper
[07:02] <KaSiNo> well wait outside and attac... talk to him about it
[07:02] <Darn> have you confronted him?
[07:02] <famx> that guy is crazy
[07:02] <famx> no likes on the street
[07:02] <KaSiNo> be crazier
[07:02] <Darn> so this happens on the street?
[07:02] <QuArTeT> Isn't that what bumpers are for? to be bumped?
[07:02] <KaSiNo> walk up to him with blood all over your shirt and scream
[07:02] <famx> plus he has like 3 cars
[07:02] <KaSiNo> buy a bull bar
[07:03] <famx> and he takes one out and reparks the other
[07:03] <QuArTeT> famx: i've seen a car recently that has something like a bumper guard. lo
[07:04] <famx> now with cold weather lately I notice paint start to crack on my bumper
[07:04] <Darn> I would file a property damage complaint with the police then
[07:04] <famx> I evern record that guy when swamps the cars the hits my bumper I have that on
[07:05] <Darn> so contact the police with that evidence or take him to small claims
[07:05] <Darn> with video evidence you are sure to win
[07:05] <KaSiNo> i agree with darn
[07:05] <famx> I really like to contact his insurance company so they can take care right awa
[07:05] <KaSiNo> definitly take it to the cops
[07:05] <KaSiNo> famx the police can get the insurance and might not even have to go that far
[07:05] <KaSiNo> if you have claimable damage they will take care of that too
[07:05] <mmm> is there any disadvantage to setting up a small network where a laptop on the n
[07:05] <Darn> they are not just going to cut you a check
[07:06] <Darn> they will get him involved and possibly deny it
[07:06] <KaSiNo> no mmm, i cant think of anything wrong with that
[07:06] <Darn> so you would have to take it to court anyway
[07:06] <famx> wouldnt be just easier to find the guy insurance company and show the video an
[07:06] <QuArTeT> famx: go to the cops first. for the insurance claim, you'll probably need
[07:06] <KaSiNo> no famx
[07:07] <KaSiNo> you wont get his insurance right away easily and legally
[07:07] <KaSiNo> go to the police first, they will go through the proper steps and channels t
[07:07] <pinche> i have a new computer a Dell XPS 400 and trying to run spysweeper on it but
[07:07] <KaSiNo> every time?
[07:07] <pinche> yes
[07:07] <KaSiNo> run a different scanner i guess
[07:07] <famx> I think police might have access to insurance information but I do not think t
[07:08] <pinche> i just paid 50 bucks for it
[07:08] <KaSiNo> famx if its legitimate they will
[07:08] <KaSiNo> they will figure it out
[07:08] <KaSiNo> pinche: use the tech support you get with it?
[07:08] <famx> but how would claim my damage?
[07:08] <pinche> o
[07:08] <pinche> ill try
[07:08] <famx> with police report i go small claims court?
[07:09] <KaSiNo> the cops can get his information from the plate
[07:09] <KaSiNo> maybe i dont know about that
[07:09] <famx> ok, but would share that info with me...
[07:09] <Darn> depends on the state
[07:09] <famx> nyc
[07:09] <KaSiNo> but im sure fi you talk to the cops give them your story and evidence and as
[07:09] <Darn> famx do you think if you get this info that you can just submit a claim andthe
[07:09] <Darn> they will get to driver involved
[07:10] <Darn> it will be no different then goingthru the police
[07:10] <Darn> and probably less effective
[07:13] <famx> well
[07:13] <famx> good thing I video evidence rather my word
[07:14] <famx> cuz this really going out hands I mean if his car is too big dont park there
[07:14] <famx> I have small sedan lexus gs
[07:14] <dddd> does anyone know how to use ie to open a link that contasins http://xxx:xxx@xx
[07:14] <famx> he backs into my car with a van, or ford expedition
[07:15] <famx> or jeep
[07:15] <Darn> just call the police
[07:15] <Darn> tell them you want to file a report
[07:16] <erki> dddd: Just do it? It should work in IE
[07:16] <famx> what happens after i file damage report
[07:16] <famx> what i have to do next?
[07:16] <famx> will his insurance company learns about after I file?
[07:16] <famx> I have never done this before
[07:16] <dddd> erki: it doesn't work for me..i guess that xp updates somehow changed the sett
[07:17] <Darn> I would ask the officer who takes the report
[07:17] <Darn> he may just tell you to take the guy to small claims
[07:17] <Darn> or he may walk over and get the guys information
[07:18] <QuArTeT> ddd: that looks like an FTP address ftp:// instead of http://
[07:21] <faec> is using a blow torch to light charcoal safe to use to eat with/
[07:22] <QuArTeT> faec: a blow torch (butane) is just a big lighter.
[07:23] <faec> oh
[07:25] <famx> ok so I call the police anytime of the day and file property damage report and
[07:26] <famx> wouldnt be just easier to contact persons insurance company so the guy learns
[07:26] <QuArTeT> famx: it's better to call them right after it happens
[07:26] <QuArTeT> famx: if this guy is as crazy as you claim, are you sure you wan to make h
[07:28] <famx> so i should leave it as it is and let it go, and pay from my pocket for this d
[07:29] <KaMiKaZa> I have a problem, my hardisk work slow, i have 2 hardisks 1 is working fin
[07:29] <KaMiKaZa> i tried defragment and DMA
[07:29] <KaMiKaZa> neither of the worked
[07:29] <KaMiKaZa> i noticed it work slow when i unrared rar parts
[07:30] <rakeer> anyone know what asus bios's would be compatible with a nagami2l made by asu
[07:30] <QuArTeT> fmax: what damage? little scratched paint on the bumper?
[07:35] <famx> cracked paint on the bumper
[07:35] <famx> every time he backs up into my car the whole car moves
[07:36] <compdoc> rakeer, really doubt it
[07:36] <famx> there is not just one sratch
[07:36] <Smidget> hey guys, i have a dell inspiron 700m and i have a 720p hdtv with vga input
[07:37] <famx> I woonder how woould he feel if I was back in up into his cars with a tank
[07:37] * yuri` is now known as yairg
[07:37] * yairg is now known as MorpheusI
[07:38] <famx> my small sedan and his big van and big ford expedition where his bumper is sli
[07:39] <Darn> I would just burn his cars down one by one
[07:39] <Darn> the ford expeditions are known to catch fire anyway
[07:40] <famx> well, I dont want to skip the law ...I just want find right procudure that bri
[07:41] <|OMEGA|> hi, has anyone had this problem before with a USB 1gb Pen device. USB Devic
[07:41] <|OMEGA|> it was working fine
[07:41] <|OMEGA|> i dunno how to fix this
[07:41] <famx> and contacting his inurance company I think would be great idea so they can co
[07:41] <famx> right after I get police report
[07:42] * Zuu^ is now known as Zuu
[07:42] <famx> hopefully he gets hit with the bill and his insurance goes up
[07:43] <famx> thats what I really dont understand a lot people think thats is ok when they h
[07:45] <Hastor> does anyone know if playstation 3 uses a standard hdmi port or if you need a
[07:50] <Smidget> think standard
[07:50] <Smidget> go on like gamestop.com and see if they have a ps3 cable
[07:51] <chains> i'm trying to think of this anime cartoon series
[07:52] <chains> i saw it in korea like back in 85-86
[07:52] <chains> these people were these suits.. i wanna say they were like robotic bird suit
[07:52] <chains> and they could all form together to form this one big robot like voltron
[07:52] <chains> anyone know what i'm talking about?
[07:55] <compdoc> sounds like most asian anime
[07:55] <Smidget> hey guys, i have a dell inspiron 700m and i have a 720p hdtv with vga input
[07:57] <Dzonizzz> kaip priregistruot nickname?
[07:57] <Dzonizzz> just ask!
[07:57] <Dzonizzz> kaip priregint nickname?
[07:57] <ial> ?? reg
[07:57] <Dzonizzz> help!
[07:57] <RBL> reg: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your chann
[07:58] <QuArTeT> chains: try searching here.. http://www.tv.com/animation/genre/2/summary.
[08:00] <Dzonizzz> how i can register my nickname?
[08:00] <crptx> you cant
[08:00] <Dzonizzz> why?
[08:00] <crptx> ?? reg
[08:00] <RBL> reg: EF-Net does not offer services. This means you can not register your chann
[08:00] <Dzonizzz> yeah to reg
[08:02] <bassgoon> has anyone backed up virtual console titles on their wii to an sd card?
[08:04] <compdoc> wii want to play
[08:05] <ASk> <chains> anyone know what i'm talking about?
[08:05] <ASk> power rangers?
[08:08] <QuArTeT> chains: i've got an image in my head with some dude wearing a yellow bird
[08:09] <Hastor> bassgoon: is that a hacking trick or some feature i was unaware of?
[08:10] <TonyD> any 1 help plz
[08:10] <TonyD> ?
[08:10] <Hastor> well im gonna go buy a $100 EB gift card so i cant spend the money on crack
[08:11] <Hastor> i see a lot of gamestop/eb giftcards on ebay but seems like you at best gain
[08:11] <TonyD> when i dc from the net .. and turn my modem off .. i do a netstat and still h
[08:14] <imm0rtal> help. if other people talk it means that i have to listen. i dont like tha
[08:14] <TonyD> does any 1 help in here
[08:14] <imm0rtal> ye
[08:14] <imm0rtal> s
[08:14] <TonyD> or do yas jus sit and talk shit
[08:14] <TonyD> ?
[08:14] <imm0rtal> yes help me with my problem
[08:14] <imm0rtal> with people that talk\
[08:15] <TonyD> can u assist me with my prob?
[08:15] <imm0rtal> yes
[08:15] <imm0rtal> what problem. and i will help if you whelp me also
[08:15] <deww> TonyD: paste it to pastebin
[08:15] <imm0rtal> deww are you in freenode?
[08:15] <deww> not very often
[08:17] <bassgoon> Hastor, I think you're supposed to be able to
[08:17] <muky> i know
[08:20] <imm0rtal> if other people talk it means that i have to listen. i dont like that , an
[08:21] <mindgames> what's the difference between vista business and ultimate
[08:21] <mindgames> what does "ultimate" do for you anyways?
[08:22] <colonel-> anyone know if there is a possible way to get verizon wireless to cut back
[08:22] <Kor> you could call an ask them
[08:22] <ial> mindgames: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/default.mspx
[08:22] <colonel-> Kor: thats what i was thinkin
[08:22] <colonel-> nicely
[08:23] <mindgames> that does it, thanks
[08:23] <Kor> yeah, but I would get your hopes up
[08:23] <colonel-> right
[08:24] <Kor> usually they only negotiate when you are deep in the hole and not paying
[08:24] <Kor> then they'll knock it down to get you to pay some of it
[08:31] <falter> this spyware-popup thing this machine has... it only happens on one of the t
[08:32] <falter> does that make any sense?
[08:32] <cyberfr0g> yup
[08:33] <falter> what would it be initializing for one user that it isn't for the other?
[08:33] <falter> i've tried like, 6 different spyware programs.. nothing can find whatever th
[08:33] <ial> post a hijackthis log? run it as the user getting the problems
[08:33] <|Jason8|> Falter, that's happened to me before
[08:34] <|Jason8|> actually, my mom has a proxy/trojan right now. And that doesn't effect me
[08:35] <ial> |Jason8|: you are on the same machine? a trojan should affect you
[08:35] <|Jason8|> even if I run a virus scan, it finds it when I scan under her username and
[08:36] <|Jason8|> it's from some site she goes to. keeps redownloading it.
[08:36] <ial> maybe your account doesnt have permissions to the infected file?
[08:36] <|Jason8|> could be.
[08:36] <falter> i'm running processguard too
[08:37] <falter> i *always* get the stuff nobody else has had
[08:37] <falter> always
[08:37] <|Jason8|> awesome.
[08:38] <|Jason8|> just got ICS working with my mom's laptop
[08:38] <falter> pastebin not working?
[08:38] <mindgames> so automatic update is mandatory with vista? ( in xp i turn that off beca
[08:39] <ial> falter: pastebin seems less reliable than http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[08:39] <falter> http://rafb.net/p/iTgy5L96.html
[08:39] <falter> i really don't see anything out of whack there
[08:40] <|Jason8|> hrm. ICS seems slower than that proxy program I've been running
[08:43] <ial> ya it looks pretty clean falter
[08:43] <falter> is there any other way for me to track this?
[08:43] <falter> i'm guessing whatever it is, it's designed to avoid detection
[08:43] <|Jason8|> :o rootkit
[08:44] <falter> i ran a few rootkit revealers
[08:44] <falter> nothing turned up
[08:45] <ial> you can make the popups happen just by logging onto the other account? ive nev
[08:51] <|Jason8|> http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20070122/tc_zd/199200
[08:51] <|Jason8|> ooo, good reading.
[08:56] <qw_> Anyone successfully used the Vista repair utility? Mine doesn't fix my problem
[09:10] <Krokanrul> anyone known with mac os 8.1 ?
[09:12] <matnation> anyone know why i cant connect to winxp from my laptop which is running 2
[09:12] <ial> how are you trying to connect?
[09:12] <matnation> i can connect to the 2000 from xp
[09:12] <matnation> file and print sharing
[09:12] <ial> XP firewall?
[09:12] <matnation> turned off
[09:13] <matnation> i can even see the xp comp from my laptop
[09:13] <matnation> when clicking it...tells me to connect as
[09:13] <ial> you've created a share on XP? i think youd have to turn off simple file sharin
[09:13] <ial> you should also create a user on both machines with the same password, that usu
[09:13] <matnation> how can i do that?
[09:14] <matnation> turn of simple
[09:14] <matnation> file sharing
[09:14] <falter> ial: from what i'm reading, this popup thing is not fixable
[09:14] <falter> which really sucks
[09:14] <ial> double click my computer, tools, folder options, view. should be the last opti
[09:14] <matnation> thnx
[09:14] <ial> falter: what did ya find?
[09:15] <falter> i've just been reading forums of people getting the same kind of popups
[09:15] <ial> ah
[09:15] <falter> conclusion every time is reinstall
[09:15] <falter> nobody can fix it
[09:15] <falter> i just don't get it
[09:15] <falter> it doesn't happen in safe mode
[09:16] <falter> they need to invent a program that can trace backwards
[09:16] <falter> to show what caused something
[09:19] <|Jason8|> a program that logs all processes and process activities :o
[09:19] <ial> i think that exists already
[09:20] <ial> something like tripwire
[09:24] <graywhite> what's the best way to manage my passwords? i have tons of passwords for
[09:25] <|Jason8|> graywhite, there's a USB flash drive style thing.
[09:25] <|Jason8|> you plug it in and it'll put all your passwords in.
[09:25] <graywhite> cant be usb either
[09:25] <|Jason8|> oh.
[09:25] <|Jason8|> good luck then.
[09:25] <|Jason8|> CD won't work.
[09:26] <|Jason8|> floppys are nonexistant anymore
[09:26] <graywhite> i mean somethin i can store on the harddrive though
[09:26] <|Jason8|> oh, on your hard drive?
[09:26] <|Jason8|> Firefox does that.
[09:26] <ial> graywhite: http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=password+ma
[09:26] <graywhite> i dont use firefox, i use opera in windows and text based browsers in lin
[09:27] <|Jason8|> Opera has that option, also.
[09:27] <graywhite> well like i said i need it to be portable and so when im in linux i cant
[09:28] <graywhite> ial im lookin again i know i looked trhough some thing like that and most
[09:28] <graywhite> yeah those all look gui based
[09:29] <|Jason8|> graywhite, I asked in a linux channel
[09:29] <|Jason8|> [11:29.20] <MystaMax> |Jason8|, I've yet to find one that works on b
[09:30] <graywhite> so did i :P
[09:30] <|Jason8|> looks like it's not gonna happen.
[09:30] <graywhite> they said theres no secure way of doing it too that even if it did work i
[09:31] <|Jason8|> yeah
[09:31] <graywhite> i thought for sure there must have been some common way that everyone was
[09:31] <|Jason8|> that USB thing with the fingerprint reader seems pretty secure.
[09:32] <graywhite> i need it more portable than that though, to be able to get to them on ot
[09:32] <graywhite> what i read in an article once was to use l33t sp34k passwords. that way
[09:32] <graywhite> i guess thats what ill do
[09:33] <|Jason8|> graywhite, it's a portable USB thing.
[09:33] <ial> graywhite: i use apg to generate my passwords, it does pronouncable
[09:33] <|Jason8|> wherever you go, just plug it in.
[09:33] <graywhite> not all linux's are plug n play with usb though
[09:33] <|Jason8|> good point.
[09:33] <graywhite> and some flat out have no su pport
[09:33] <iNToIT> fingerprint readers are *not* secure
[09:33] <|Jason8|> iNToIT, I would've thought otherwise. why not?
[09:34] <iNToIT> because they're easily fooled
[09:35] <iNToIT> even the ones that utilize anti-gummy techniques, such as heat/vein detectio
[09:36] <graywhite> i just realized if someone wanted my passwords all they'd have to do is c
[09:36] <iNToIT> graywhite depends on the site. Some sites have a security "question" enable
[09:37] <iNToIT> but yes, you're basically correct
[09:38] * |Jason8|| is now known as |Jason8|
[09:39] <ial> graywhite: http://kedpm.sourceforge.net/ maybe
[09:40] <dealt> im using a WGT624 wireless modem and have atheros client utility installed.
[09:42] <graywhite> ial why does it say i dont have permission to view the page when i click
[09:43] <ial> it said that for me too, i assumed it was just broke. but now it works
[09:43] <ial> and i dont see anywhere that this works on windows, i assumed it did
[09:43] <dealt> brb, gonna try something with the wireless modem
[09:45] <ial> looks like you can use a custom front end, and figaro PM back end. so maybe yo
[09:47] <rico> can anyone recommend a site for free photos i can use for a website
[09:48] <graywhite> flickr.com
[09:48] <graywhite> lots of people dont license their photos right on there
[09:48] <rico> maybe not so much personal photos, but pictures of people doing work
[09:48] <ial> google stock photos or add free to the search
[09:48] <falter> i'm going to reinstall this puter
[09:48] <falter> and then send these companies who's ads caused this a bill
[09:48] <rico> thx ial ill try it
[09:49] <belter> flickr.com googlepages.com live.com and apple has a pic share site too
[09:49] <rico> coo
[09:49] <belter> could always go the way of myspace
[09:50] <rico> if i was looking for myspace whores
[09:50] <ial> the first hit http://www.sxc.hu/ looked good but its loading a bit slow
[09:50] <rico> unfortunately this is for work
[09:50] <rico> i see that one ial, i didnt like the by subscription term
[09:50] <rico> ill keep googling
[09:51] <rico> googleing
[09:51] <rico> heh
[09:51] <ial> 'Use of these Images without license is prohibited.' uhh, whats the point of t
[09:52] <graywhite> myspace whore is redundant
[09:52] <rico> haha ... tru
[09:52] <toocanx> how can i tell wether a port is open on my pc
[09:52] <graywhite> my neice is grounded from the internet for a month because she's 12 and t
[09:52] <belter> netstat -a
[09:53] <graywhite> a month?? how about life if it was my kid
[09:53] <rico> bye bye pc
[09:53] <graywhite> and she still has cell phone
[09:53] <graywhite> for all she knows shes talkin to the guy and arranging a meeting after sc
[09:54] <toocanx> how can i tell if a port is blocked from my pc to a remote pc
[09:54] <ial> sounds like a job for dateline NBC!
[09:54] * graywhite notes that mentionin he's black sounded racist and of course it wouldnt matter
[09:54] <graywhite> so no offense ;0
[09:54] <ial> toocanx: a port scanner. ie; nmap
[09:55] <rico> toocan
[09:55] <belter> should set her up with one of your good friends, have him msg her, and then
[09:55] <rico> what application
[09:55] <belter> she'll learn real quick
[09:56] <graywhite> sudo ? :P
[09:56] <rico> pseudo?
[09:56] <belter> srry it's the linux in me
[09:56] <ial> sudo: kidnapping: command not found
[09:56] <rico> haha
[09:57] <graywhite> funny accent if you pronounce pseudo as soodoo :P
[09:57] <graywhite> terrawists
[09:57] <Synapt|c> anyone know anything about soulseek?
[09:58] <graywhite> i know you made 2 mistakes at once
[09:59] <graywhite> 1) asking about p2p in #help and 2) not asking a specific question about
[10:02] <Synapt|c> mmm yeah i understand.
[10:02] <Synapt|c> sry.
[10:18] * |Jason8|| is now known as |Jason8|
[10:19] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, is there a way to enable File and Printer Sharing without runnin
[10:19] <|Jason8|> er.
[10:19] <|Jason8|> Give permission to a computer to access the shared stuff without running a
[10:20] <ial> is there even a wizard for that?
[10:20] <deww> yes and yes
[10:20] <killsalot> Most of my dynamic ip range has been blacklisted, who do i talk to?
[10:20] <graywhite> in gmail if i create a new label say 'slashdot' and then select a slashdo
[10:20] <|Jason8|> deww, can you help me out?
[10:21] <belter> tools, folder options, view, at the bottom of the list take the check out of
[10:21] <ial> graywhite: i know you can do it thru filters. i dont think adding a label to a
[10:21] <|Jason8|> belter, thanks a lot :D
[10:21] <killsalot> and wat does this mean: +2.0 web.dnsbl.sorbs.net Vulnerable Web Server Ex
[10:22] <graywhite> ial ok how can i do it through filters
[10:23] <ial> graywhite: its pretty straight forward, where ya stuck?
[10:23] <killsalot> erm.. anyone?
[10:24] <FPS> how do I add adsense to wordpress?
[10:24] <graywhite> im not stuck im just being to lazy to figure it out myself heh. i'll goog
[10:24] <ial> you dont have to google it, create a new filter and go thru the options
[10:25] <ial> there is an 'apply label' checkbox on the 2nd page
[10:25] <|Jason8|> belter, there is no "use simple file sharing" in folder options.
[10:26] <ial> |Jason8|: which version of XP? you are in the View tab?
[10:26] <Opium-> if i look at the specs of a router and it says "Supports up to 40 IPSec VPN-
[10:26] <deww> |Jason8|: are you using xp home? it won't be there to disable in xp home.
[10:27] <|Jason8|> XP home.
[10:27] <|Jason8|> aw.
[10:27] <|Jason8|> so there really isn't any way?
[10:27] <graywhite> i uninstalled XP home. now it's XP homeless.
[10:27] * ]jjd[ is now known as ]JJD[
[10:28] <graywhite> win2k for the win2k7
[10:33] <Hastor> anyone with some ps3 knowledge around? just wondering a few things about res
[10:49] <jhoo> Whats a easy way to take pictures of a product and make it look clean cut
[10:50] <zAlanM> use a lightbox
[10:51] <jhoo> any good software?
[10:51] <zAlanM> best way to do it is to take the photos correctly in the first place
[10:51] <jhoo> say it is a photo of a person. And u dont want a backround
[10:52] <zAlanM> then you need a bigger lightbox
[10:52] <zAlanM> http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/07/diy_light_box.html
[10:53] <zAlanM> i think it's called a light tent at that point
[10:53] <jhoo> i just want something simple..like some software
[10:53] <zAlanM> software isn't simple
[10:53] <zAlanM> it's a real fucking pain in the ass to erase the background
[10:53] <zAlanM> and you end up w/ jaggies
[10:54] <zAlanM> photoshop is the de facto standard for photo editing, it can do it, but you'
[10:55] <Joops> I've been trying to understand how APR works but can't seem to find an answer
[10:55] <zAlanM> .06734% will be added daily
[10:56] <Joops> On a $1000 purchase, .06% is $60 a month, or 6$
[10:56] <zAlanM> or around 67 cents?
[10:56] <Joops> 1000 * 0.06 = 60
[10:56] <zAlanM> no
[10:56] <zAlanM> 1000*0.0006
[10:56] <hanzo> 0.6
[10:56] <Joops> The papers say "0.06734"
[10:56] <zAlanM> $60 is 6%
[10:56] <Joops> not 0.0006734
[10:56] <zAlanM> does it have the % on the paper?
[10:57] <Joops> isnt 0.06 equal to 6%
[10:57] <zAlanM> because % = per cent or per one hundred
[10:57] <zAlanM> so .06734% = .0006734
[10:57] <Joops> "Your Standard Daily Pereodic Rate is: 0.07463%"
[10:57] <zAlanM> since it has the %, that's 7/100ths of a percent, not 7%
[10:58] <Joops> So how do the finance fees work? Say a $1000 purchase was made. Every day wil
[10:58] <zAlanM> yes
[10:58] <zAlanM> well
[10:59] <Treval> :o
[10:59] <zAlanM> it's cumulative though
[10:59] <Treval> When I play F.E.A.R. at max settings, the sound is really really scratchy an
[10:59] <zAlanM> so it's .07% of 1000 the first day, .07% of 1000.70 the second day, etc
[10:59] <Joops> So if the balance was paid off in 40 days, the finance fees incurred would on
[10:59] <zAlanM> probably a little over $30, becuase of the compounding
[10:59] <zAlanM> but pretty close
[11:00] <Joops> So, despite a sky high interest/premium rate, it is still possible to get out
[11:00] <zAlanM> as long as there's no penalty for prepayment
[11:00] <zAlanM> or minimum service charge
[11:00] <Joops> Great, thanks
[11:00] <graywhite> why do hardware jobs pay so little compared to software jobs
[11:01] <graywhite> you literally save peoples buisnesses and keep them running and they're l
[11:01] <zAlanM> maintenance always pays less than creating
[11:01] <Joops> graywhite: Any moron can read instructions on a paper or be a grunt, but to w
[11:01] <zAlanM> most morons can't read instructions, really
[11:01] <Joops> Take a look at all the buffoon CS reps dell has in india, that shows you any
[11:02] <zAlanM> those cs reps aren't doing hardware support
[11:02] <graywhite> i suppose but the level of bad programming ive seen
[11:02] <zAlanM> they're screening calls on behalf of hardware support
[11:04] <|Jason8|> yo zAlanM.
[11:04] <zAlanM> sup?
[11:04] <zAlanM> you still suffering in dialupville?
[11:06] <S|oTH> Hello, I got a problem. I most of deleted internet explorer from the computer
[11:06] <S|oTH> most = must
[11:07] <|Jason8|> zAlanM, you know it. Except now I'm connecting through some free service
[11:07] <|Jason8|> plus ping is lower and it's faster.
[11:07] <S|oTH> Could anyone please help, I need to get on a browser but I got no way of down
[11:08] <|Jason8|> S|oTH, Internet Explorer?
[11:08] <S|oTH> Yes please
[11:08] <Treval> Get firefox then.
[11:08] <|Jason8|> What operating system are you running?
[11:08] <Treval> Or download IE From an ftp.
[11:08] <S|oTH> Windows XP
[11:08] <ial> S|oTH: start/run/iexplore doesnt do anything?
[11:08] <|Jason8|> Internet Explorer comes with XP
[11:08] <S|oTH> Thank you
[11:08] <Treval> You still got the ftp protocol. :D
[11:10] <S|oTH> ial: now there is ie 7 out, but I dont like there setup with it. I like the
[11:11] <S|oTH> ial: how do I get outlook express back as well?
[11:11] <S|oTH> I dont see it there anymore
[11:11] <ial> go to program files, internet explorer. double click the iexplore in there. i
[11:12] <S|oTH> Should I download all the updates as well?
[11:12] <ial> windows updates? do custom if you dont want IE7. its listed as a critical upd
[11:13] <ial> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ :)
[11:13] <|Jason8|> ^^^right there. Man's best friend.
[11:16] <S|oTH> ial: how do I get outlook express back?
[11:17] <S|oTH> ial: so your saying I can have ie7 but still have the older look to it if I c
[11:18] <ial> no, i was saying dont even install ie7. you already did?
[11:18] <S|oTH> Yes Im installing it right now
[11:18] <S|oTH> But I dont want ie7 the way it looks , I hate it.
[11:18] <S|oTH> I like the older style better
[11:19] <ial> do you have an outlook express folder in program files? you might be able to r
[11:19] <Dragon90> noen norske ? :P
[11:19] <ial> OE might be there too im not sure
[11:19] <ial> ?? english
[11:19] <RBL> english: english only, inglés solamente, alleen Engels, anglais seulement, nur
[11:19] <S|oTH> ial: No I dont have outlook express in there.
[11:21] <kerouac0> In firefox, how do I make the browser not show which pages I've recently v
[11:22] <S|oTH> Ok there we go, so I dont need to download any updates for this older version
[11:22] <S|oTH> Its pretty much the same as ie7?
[11:22] <ial> kerouac0: tools, options, privacy, history tab
[11:23] <winzor> do prepaid credit cards affect credit score?
[11:23] <S|oTH> Do I need to download any updates with the older version on ie?
[11:24] <S|oTH> Thank you very much, going to restart.
[11:24] <ial> S|oTH: windowsupdate site will tell you if you need IE6 updates
[11:34] <LBIguy> what's a good p2p program for music?
[11:34] <LBIguy> limewire sucks
[11:34] <Saww> limewire rock..
[11:34] <TheMint> yh it does
[11:34] <TheMint> you clearly don't know what you ar eon about LBIgu
[11:35] <OneLove> LBIguy Read Topic!
[11:35] <LBIguy> i try and get a song that 137 people have and it times out and says needs fo
[11:35] <Saww> that's p2p...
[11:35] <TheMint> i know lol
[11:35] <LBIguy> what about the topic OneLove
[11:35] <TheMint> you know its not just limewire users
[11:35] <OneLove> Well, kind of taboo here to discuss P2P
[11:36] <OneLove> You can ask the OPs
[11:36] <LBIguy> well i'm not tallkin about anything illegal am i?
[11:36] <TheMint> can ask anyone he likes half of the time ops aren't here
[11:36] <TheMint> an ops don't know everything
[11:36] <ial> ops are almost always here
[11:36] <winzor> do prepaid credit cards affect credit score?
[11:36] <Saww> ial is op iirc
[11:37] <LBIguy> maybe i need to upgrade to limewire pro
[11:37] <LBIguy> that might solve it
[11:37] <TheMint> u buying it
[11:37] <LBIguy> yea of sourse
[11:37] <LBIguy> course
[11:37] <TheMint> heh it's not much different really
[11:38] <LBIguy> might solve the download issue though
[11:38] <Saww> i doubt it
[11:38] <TheMint> it won't
[11:38] <TheMint> :)
[11:38] <LBIguy> ok i'll try and see
[11:39] <TheMint> but limewire is better than any other p2p program
[11:39] <Saww> yup :)
[11:39] <TheMint> C'mon the limewire!!!!
[11:39] <TheMint> lol
[11:39] <hanzo> BWHAHA
[11:42] <donkidong> ok
[11:42] <TheMint> ok
[11:42] <donkidong> so i got a small problem maybe u guys can help me out
[11:42] <TheMint> maybe if u ask
[11:42] <donkidong> i am going on a road trip about 1500 miles
[11:42] <donkidong> all i got is a cd player
[11:42] <donkidong> i am driving bymyself
[11:42] <Saww> poor poor very poor man..
[11:42] <donkidong> by myself
[11:43] <TheMint> listen to decent music
[11:43] <donkidong> i got mary jane to entertain me
[11:43] <donkidong> but i kinda want some comedy cds
[11:43] <donkidong> of some kind
[11:43] <TheMint> haha
[11:43] <TheMint> i got some
[11:43] <Saww> comedy music? 0_o
[11:43] <TheMint> but i would need to upload them and i can't be assed
[11:43] <donkidong> i have the chris rock
[11:43] <donkidong> comedy
[11:43] <TheMint> not comedy music lol
[11:44] <donkidong> mint u have some?
[11:44] <TheMint> it's like someone calls someone and they take the crap out of them
[11:44] <Saww> oh.. something like radio...
[11:44] <donkidong> yea
[11:44] <donkidong> like jerky boys
[11:44] <Saww> well i g2g now, thx for info :)
[11:44] <ial> so whats the problem?
[11:44] * ]JJD[ is now known as ]jjd[
[11:44] <donkidong> where can i get these
[11:44] <donkidong> cds?
[11:44] <TheMint> look on google
[11:44] <graywhite> fdisk -l says my ipod is on /dev/sda1. However, cat /proc/scsi/scsi says
[11:45] <ial> donkidong: http://www.jr.com/JRSectionView.process?InSearch=t&N=10003&Ntt=comed
[11:45] <RBL> <ial> http://tinyurl.com/yuwdr9
[11:47] <dealt> are airlink wireless adapters compatible with netgear wireless routers?
[11:47] <TheMint> can u not get a adapter for netgear?
[11:47] <dealt> that means i gotta pay again
[11:47] <TheMint> ah dunno mate why don't you try?
[11:48] <TheMint> why didn't you buy an adapter with netgear
[11:48] <dealt> k, maybe
[11:48] <QuArTeT> dealt: all 802.11b/g are compatible with 802.11b/g
[11:49] <dealt> k
[11:49] <QuArTeT> dealt: if there's a speedboost added, that might be proprietary.
[11:49] <QuArTeT> ...for that extra speed
[11:49] <dealt> cuz my internet is not working, im thinking the router is too far away
[11:50] <dealt> its about 40 feet away
[11:50] <adam0> can anyone tell me how to join .ts files
[11:51] <TheMint> well then u need a usb adapter dealt
[11:52] <TheMint> or network card
[11:55] <QuArTeT> dealt: try getting closer. if that fixes it, that's your problem
[12:11] <TheMint> or buy one of those cables think they're only 25 quid
[12:11] <jasonsw> how can i paste a bunch of lines of text into one cell in excel without it
[12:11] <TheMint> put it in the on eline?
[12:11] <QuArTeT> jason: click the cell till there's a blinnking cursor in there
[12:11] <jasonsw> thankx
[12:11] <donkidong> i realy think
[12:11] <donkidong> i am going to be really bored
[12:11] <Tom-Cat> hey
[12:11] <wixxxer> http://kuso.cc/19Ls
[12:12] <airtest> Hello =) I just got internet connection with My W850 (3g Phone). Now I wond
[12:13] * Lemure is now known as Osc
[12:15] <airtest> ? =/
[12:22] <prajna> can winamp be used to upload and organize yoru ipod?
[12:23] <thevenin> prajna: I don't beleive so no
[12:23] <TheMint> no thats what itunes is for
[12:23] <prajna> I hate itunes
[12:23] <TheMint> why
[12:23] <thevenin> i dont see why everyone hates itunes, i think its better the WMP
[12:24] <TheMint> i only use itunes for my iPod
[12:24] <TheMint> but as for playing you only need windows media player or winamp
[12:25] <TheMint> this is for only playing files
[12:25] <TheMint> Thats what i use
[12:26] <TheMint> everyone has their favourite though alot of people like vlc
[12:27] <IamKing> I don't hate iTunes...I just use Winamp to play my songs...I can minimize i
[12:27] <IamKing> CoverFlow on iTunes is hawt
[12:27] <thevenin> IamKing: do you use firefox?
[12:28] <IamKing> yep
[12:28] <IamKing> works great for me :P
[12:28] <thevenin> may i suggest foxytunes as an excellent plugin
[12:28] <thevenin> you can completely control you media player from within itunes
[12:29] <prajna> hey, my ipod stick has data on it. Now that Itunes is installed, I cannot ac
[12:29] <thevenin> reformat
[12:29] <IamKing> nah, I don't have the screen real estate in Firefox left to devote to FoxyT
[12:30] <thevenin> you dont haft to, i have mine in my status bar
[12:30] <prajna> how do I reformat?
[12:30] <TheMint> fdisk
[12:30] <thevenin> if its an ipod you can do it through itunes
[12:30] <TheMint> on a pc u mean?
[12:30] <prajna> where in itunes?
[12:31] <prajna> its an ipod
[12:31] <TheMint> ok
[12:31] <prajna> and Itunes hides the disc, now
[12:31] <thevenin> what version of itunes
[12:31] <prajna> 7
[12:32] <thevenin> when you plug it in itunes shouls see it then you can click on the ipod or
[12:32] <thevenin> click restore
[12:34] <ial> mornin voltz
[12:35] <TheMint> what time is it there then about 6am voltz ?
[12:36] <voltz> morning ial
[12:36] <voltz> TheMint: its 7.40
[12:36] <TheMint> its different times in aus though isnt it ?
[12:36] <TheMint> you're not in sydney are u
[12:36] <voltz> Im on Sydney time
[12:36] <TheMint> hmm
[12:37] <voltz> although Im not in Sydney
[12:37] <TheMint> so is all the time the same?
[12:37] <voltz> at the moment we are also in daylight savings
[12:37] <TheMint> well won't need to worry about light the sun will do that lol
[12:38] <voltz> which puts us 1 hr ahead so your pretty close, and yes, there are a couple of
[12:38] <TheMint> au is mad lol
[12:38] <TheMint> its not even friday there
[12:38] <TheMint> it's saturday morning
[12:38] <voltz> true
[12:38] <TheMint> where as here it's friday
[12:39] <TheMint> do you work voltz ?
[12:39] <FPS> alright, so I deleted wordpress folders, and then I found out I could've done s
[12:42] <voltz> TheMint: #helpchat :)
[12:42] <TheMint> u even in it
[12:42] <voltz> sure
[12:51] <Tiyuri> Hey guys, anyone know anything about the faulty 7900gts with the memory prob
[12:55] <deww> Tiyuri: didn't you ask that a few days ago
[12:55] <Tiyuri> yup still trying to find some info
[12:55] <deww> did you try hardware forums, especially those dedicated to pc gamers?
[12:56] <Tiyuri> ive tried a couple and the responses were... not perticularly helpful
[12:57] <deww> did you try geting your card RMA'ed? are you able to identify your issue?
[12:57] <Tropic-Ll> anyone successfully installed Tiger on a PC?
[12:57] <Tiyuri> ive not gone down the RMA path yet
[12:57] <Tiyuri> mainly because I need my card to work, and I can't be without one for that l
[12:58] <Tiyuri> I was having some artifact issues that sounded a lot like the issues describ
[12:58] <Tiyuri> i lowered the clock speed, as I have an XFX card and they come preoverclocke
[12:58] <Tiyuri> right now the only artifact im experiencing anywhere is a strange yellow lin
[12:58] <Tiyuri> and it only appears in firefox..
[12:59] <Tiyuri> I'm trying to find out if thats a symptom + if i should replace my card now,
[12:59] <Tiyuri> I don't really want to "test" it incase it burns the memory out altogether
[13:00] <Tiyuri> if that makes any sense
[13:01] <deww> does the funny yellow line show up i another user's profile?
[13:03] <deww> since it does show up the way you bought it (overclocked), i say throw in a ch
[13:06] <Tiyuri> [21:01] <deww> does the funny yellow line show up i another user's pro
[13:06] <Tiyuri> ive not checked
[13:06] <Tiyuri> ive not heard anyone else ask me
[13:06] <Tiyuri> but they may have missed it, its feint and not really irritating
[13:07] <Tiyuri> right now im just not using it for any 3d apps
[13:07] <Tiyuri> and its doing fine
[13:07] <Tiyuri> the card runs at a nice temperature and everything
[13:09] <Tiyuri> theres actually quite some chance my card is fine now, seeing as it only hap
[13:09] <Tiyuri> im just not brave enough to test it :P
[13:11] <graywhite> http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/04/05/mac_security_the_evil_drm.h
[13:12] <graywhite> tpm is what i was tryin to say not dpm
[13:12] <IamKing> graywhite: uh, that's not news
[13:12] <graywhite> clearly by the date ;0
[13:12] <IamKing> TPM is being included in Wintendo desktops and laptops
[13:13] <IamKing> it's up to the OS and any apps to make use of it
[13:14] * awktrip is now known as trip
[13:16] <ValuE> Hi all
[13:17] <sweetz> how many beers 341ml each are in a 60 ounce pitcher
[13:20] <ial> !google 60 ounces in milliliters
[13:21] <RBL> Sorry, no search results were found.
[13:21] <ial> RBL lies!
[13:22] <sweetz> ty
[13:22] <sweetz> its a little over 5 beers
[13:26] <TheMint> lol
[13:26] <hanzo> BWHAHA
[13:26] <TheMint> hanzo has a script on RBL
[13:26] <hanzo> TheMint: excuse me?
[13:26] <ial> lol
[13:26] <hanzo> BWHAHA
[13:26] <TheMint> hanzo the manzo
[13:26] <hanzo> TheMint: excuse me?
[13:26] <ial> please turn that off
[13:26] <TheMint> yh hanzo
[13:27] <TheMint> lol
[13:27] <hanzo> BWHAHA
[13:27] <TheMint> still got it on
[13:27] <sweetz> dumb nigger
[13:28] <TheMint> u want to be next
[13:28] <ial> no racist remarks please
[13:28] <sweetz> not u
[13:28] <sweetz> hanzo
[13:28] <ial> toward anyone
[13:28] <sweetz> k
[13:31] <NeoTheHac> hi
[13:31] <ial> hi
[13:31] <NeoTheHac> i've a problem with my dell
[13:31] <NeoTheHac> anybody can me help?
[13:31] <TheMint> whats up
[13:31] <ial> ask a specific question
[13:32] <NeoTheHac> it says Hard disk 0 not found, hard disk 1 not found
[13:32] <NeoTheHac> what can i do?
[13:32] <TheMint> is this in the bios ?
[13:33] * ValuE is now known as dopeboy
[13:33] <NeoTheHac> yes
[13:33] <TheMint> then switich off your pc and make sure all the cables are securely tight
[13:33] <TheMint> the cables that connect the hd of course
[13:33] <TheMint> switch*
[13:34] <NeoTheHac> yes,i've done it many times
[13:34] <NeoTheHac> but without success
[13:34] <TheMint> is this the first time it shappened
[13:34] <TheMint> happened*
[13:34] <NeoTheHac> yes
[13:34] <john-l> is there a list of public domain personalities somewhere?
[13:34] <john-l> anyone familiar with trademarks
[13:34] <john-l> for example, uncle sam (?)
[13:34] <TheMint> ok well it must be a setting u touched
[13:34] <john-l> or wyatt earp
[13:34] <john-l> anyone know the legalities of this
[13:35] <TheMint> is it happening with the pc ur on or another one?
[13:35] <NeoTheHac> on my pc
[13:35] <TheMint> u on a laptop the now?
[13:35] <NeoTheHac> yes
[13:35] <TheMint> ok well start up your pc
[13:36] <TheMint> and then hit the bios button
[13:36] <NeoTheHac> ok
[13:36] <TheMint> and tell us what u see
[13:36] <NeoTheHac> i see
[13:36] <NeoTheHac> primary hard disk 0 not found
[13:37] <NeoTheHac> primary hard disk 1 not found
[13:37] <TheMint> do u see the model name of ur hd anywhere?
[13:37] <NeoTheHac> strike F1 to continue or F2 to run the setup utility
[13:37] <ial> press f1 to continue? if you contiue does the OS boot? maybe your only disk i
[13:37] <TheMint> yh
[13:38] <NeoTheHac> yes one is maxtor and the other one is western
[13:38] <TheMint> there should be a setting to change ur hd to secondary or primary it's on p
[13:38] <NeoTheHac> No...my disk is in te prumary controller
[13:39] <TheMint> u sure?
[13:39] <NeoTheHac> *the
[13:39] <NeoTheHac> yes
[13:39] <NeoTheHac> i'm sure
[13:39] <TheMint> well i'd check the cables inside the pc again
[13:39] <TheMint> and that its inserted correctly
[13:39] <TheMint> the cables u need to push in are stiff
[13:40] * Luck_ is now known as Luck
[13:40] <TheMint> so i would double check
[13:40] <TheMint> and also make sure it's not upside down
[13:40] <TheMint> heh
[13:40] <TheMint> remember there are two cables that need to be connected to the hd
[13:41] <NeoTheHac> yes i know...i've done it
[13:41] <TheMint> how many hd can u put in a pc?
[13:41] <NeoTheHac> 2
[13:41] <TheMint> try putting in the other one
[13:42] <NeoTheHac> but some days ago it stopped suddenly...i've tried that,too...and the oth
[13:43] <TheMint> ok well it seems that it's a setting u may have changed in the bios menu
[13:43] <TheMint> as far as i can remember you should be able to restore the settings to defa
[13:43] <ial> NeoTheHac: usually if you are getting those messages, but pressing F1 gets you
[13:44] <ial> am i correct to say everything is working fine, you just have to press F1 every
[13:44] <NeoTheHac> ial...i'm not stupid...i've done it
[13:45] <ial> im not trying to imply you are stupid. im trying to troubleshoot. dont get de
[13:45] <NeoTheHac> yes i know...:D
[13:46] <NeoTheHac> but i'm really sad...'cose i've tried all things
[13:46] <imm0rtal> hello i want to have a key to the room #death
[13:46] <imm0rtal> thaknks
[13:47] <imm0rtal> th unable to join channel (need correct key)
[13:47] <TheMint> contact the ops there maybe?
[13:47] <imm0rtal> how do i know hwo are that
[13:47] <john-l> consult a mortician
[13:47] <imm0rtal> i wanne talk about death and about suicide and murder and serial killings
[13:47] <phisher1> imm0rtal: if you don't know the key, you shouldn't.
[13:47] <ial> im not sure if knock works for keyed or just invite-only channels. try /knock
[13:47] <john-l> go to #suicide then
[13:47] <imm0rtal> ok
[13:47] <phisher1> doesn't matter, you can't knock a -i channel
[13:48] <john-l> lots of nutbars there
[13:48] <imm0rtal> im already There
[13:48] <john-l> then stfu
[13:48] <TheMint> lol john
[13:48] <imm0rtal> suicide peoples are the smartest people that life
[13:48] <phisher1> thats great, off you go
[13:48] <john-l> so i see...
[13:48] <TheMint> yh they're real smart aren't they lol
[13:48] <Lindy_> or #teens
[13:48] <imm0rtal> they understand life. so they suicide!
[13:48] <NeoTheHac> ial> i haven't changed anything 'cose my pc worked since 5 days ago...
[13:48] <TheMint> hahaha
[13:48] <TheMint> you are funny mate
[13:48] <imm0rtal> i dont want to suicide, comerad.
[13:49] <imm0rtal> i have better plans
[13:49] <TheMint> and do u understand life?
[13:49] <john-l> think it over
[13:49] <TheMint> heh
[13:49] <john-l> jk
[13:49] <imm0rtal> first i want to try and get in the army. then if tat fails i become seria
[13:49] <imm0rtal> yes i understand life
[13:49] <ial> NeoTheHac: maybe your bios reset somehow? dead battery? dunno
[13:49] <phisher1> imm0rtal: troll elsewhere
[13:49] <imm0rtal> were all a bunch of meat
[13:49] <ial> imm0rtal: troll elsewhere
[13:49] <ial> !
[13:49] <phisher1> wow
[13:49] <TheMint> well then that proves u don't need to commit suicide to understand life doe
[13:49] <TheMint> t
[13:49] <phisher1> thems are some odds.
[13:49] <john-l> uh. i hope someone is keeping tabs on his IP
[13:49] <imm0rtal> pieces of meat that think its a individual
[13:49] <john-l> that's not funny
[13:50] <phisher1> imm0rtal: take the chat elsewhere now or be removed
[13:50] <imm0rtal> youre not funny also
[13:50] <phisher1> this is a help channel not a repository for your crap
[13:50] <NeoTheHac> ial> mother board?
[13:50] <Death_Be_> Hey guys, what's the command for command prompt to show all the connectio
[13:50] <imm0rtal> yea yes yea
[13:50] <ial> Death_Be_: netstat ?
[13:50] <phisher1> Death_Be_: netstat -a
[13:50] <Lindy_> john-l whose ip and why ?
[13:50] <Death_Be_> thanks :)
[13:50] <Lindy_> netats -a
[13:50] <phisher1> netstat -na is better, don't resolve
[13:51] <phisher1> faster anyway
[13:51] <john-l> [16:49:47] <imm0rtal> first i want to try and get in the army. then i
[13:51] <ial> sometimes its helpful to resolve
[13:51] <Death_Be_> thanks
[13:51] <phisher1> john-l: drop it
[13:51] <imm0rtal> john-l whats yourr prolblem
[13:51] <john-l> i did kid
[13:51] <john-l> lindy asked
[13:51] <imm0rtal> HAHAHA
[13:51] <imm0rtal> good job:)
[13:51] <TheMint> hahaha
[13:51] <phisher1> thats all the trolls I think
[13:52] <OggyNiX> mmm beef combo dipped in sauce and
[13:52] <Joops> mmm
[13:52] <OggyNiX> hmm whats that called again'
[13:52] <OggyNiX> the hot stuff they put in italian beefs
[13:52] <OggyNiX> :|
[13:53] <Joops> tobasco sauce
[13:53] <john-l> au jus
[13:53] <OggyNiX> sarkdinare
[13:53] <OggyNiX> sschardinare
[13:53] <john-l> chardonnay
[13:53] <OggyNiX> ah
[13:53] <OggyNiX> yes
[13:55] <OggyNiX> only thing I dont like about having the beef dipped
[13:55] <john-l> are you trying to make italian beef sandwiches
[13:55] <OggyNiX> it starts falling apart
[13:55] <Joops> oh shucks
[13:55] <OggyNiX> but thats teh fun of it
[13:55] <Joops> use chop sticks to pick it back out
[13:55] <john-l> just go buy it
[13:55] <john-l> you cant duplicate the taste
[13:56] <Joops> you really cant
[13:56] <Joops> but you can try
[13:56] <john-l> that stuff marinates all day
[13:56] <Lindy_> john-l dont msg me
[13:56] <Lindy_> or I will ban you next
[13:56] <john-l> ?
[13:56] <john-l> i said two words 5 minutes ago.
[13:56] <john-l> havent msged you since and dont intend to
[13:56] <Lindy_> you msged me
[13:56] <Lindy_> good
[13:57] <john-l> well you can put your fears to rest
[13:57] <OggyNiX> john never msg ppl in the channel
[13:57] <Lindy_> no fears at all
[13:57] <Mark12> Hi, how to repair an rpm file? I've got this error > error: unpacking of
[13:57] <john-l> i wasn't in the channel'
[13:57] <OggyNiX> just ask your question the channel
[13:57] <john-l> but let's drop it
[13:57] <john-l> its not worth talking about
[13:58] <john-l> anyway i dont know the ingredient in italian beef you're talking abou
[13:58] <john-l> its not chardonnay thats a white win
[13:58] <john-l> wine
[13:59] <john-l> giardinera peppers maybe
[13:59] <OggyNiX> yes thats it
[13:59] <satva> anuone have a sony vaio.. know what type of motherboard is in the pcg-k15?
[14:00] <satva> i know its an intel but what model
[14:00] <john-l> now i want an italian beef
[14:00] <deww> satva: most likely custom. sony does a lot of custom stuff
[14:01] * faec is now known as face_
[14:01] <satva> oh
[14:01] <satva> hrm
[14:02] <Lindy_> phisher1 you still here ?
[14:02] <phisher1> ya
[14:02] <phisher1> try #helpchat
[14:02] <phisher1> and #global, #efnetradio
[14:02] <phisher1> it worked in #news
[14:03] <Lindy_> want me to try the others ?
[14:03] <Lindy_> deww is around for helpchat
[14:03] <phisher1> yes
[14:03] <phisher1> ah, i msgd him
[14:03] <deww> what?
[14:03] <phisher1> op UN
[14:04] <OggyNiX> satva not getting to many hits for the mobo on that lappy
[14:08] <Joops> if anyone wants to see a levitron levitating in mid air go check out http://s
[14:08] <akathekid> does
IRC Chat Logs - An Archive of EFnet IRC Channels
Log for #help on 2007-01-26