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Session Start: Fri Sep 15 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #help
[00:00] <acronis> :/
[00:00] <Nameeater> memtest is saying my ram is stuffed (royally. every test is an error) is
[00:00] <kib> ctcp is the client to client protocol
[00:00] <kib> its used for a lot of things....usualy for getting information about another pe
[00:01] <luminous> like whois and stuff?
[00:01] <acronis> Nameeater: FSB could be wrong
[00:01] <kib> or initiating things like dcc connections
[00:01] <kib> well not whois itself
[00:01] <kib> since whois gets info from the server not the person
[00:01] <kib> but similar
[00:01] <kib> some common ctcp's are version and time
[00:01] <luminous> oh ok
[00:01] <kib> although if you sue them too much on people they will be annoyed
[00:01] <Nameeater> acronis: so a toasted mobo?
[00:02] <kib> I just sent you a ctcp version and time
[00:02] <luminous> hmm i didn't seem to get them
[00:02] <Byron> Does anyone know if there is anyway to just turn on a youtube stream and wat
[00:02] <kib> you can try them on me...i don't bite. but be warned if you do it too often pe
[00:02] <kib> /ctcp kib version
[00:02] <acronis> Nameeater: bios could be misconfigured
[00:02] <mr_wiiwii> nameeater: voltage?
[00:03] <luminous> what info did my version have in it
[00:03] <kib> well that wasn't as bad as I thought...only 3 people took up my offer :)
[00:03] <acronis> kib: could you help me figure this out I have to fix my friend's pc tomorro
[00:03] <Byron> There's got to be a station or program that'll just keep playing youtube unti
[00:03] <kib> odd thought luminous your client doesn't appear to be giving me a version reply
[00:04] <nomel> maybe he's using telnet.
[00:04] <kib> you might have this disabled in your client somewhere
[00:04] <kib> nomel: if he was using telnet he wouldn't be asking what a ctcp is
[00:04] <luminous> telnet isnt user-friendly enough for irc
[00:04] <kib> he would be more worried about sending raw pong commands
[00:04] <nomel> repyling to server pings sucks ass though.
[00:04] <nomel> hahah...yeah.
[00:04] <nomel> woot!
[00:04] <luminous> you have to do that manually in telnet?
[00:05] <nomel> yeah.
[00:05] <luminous> that blows
[00:05] <kib> anyone who can survive on irc using telnet probably can teach all of us a few t
[00:05] <nomel> yeah. you can't leave your desk for long.
[00:05] <Nameeater> I think this mobo may be just broken, I managed to install WinXP but I ca
[00:05] <kib> luminous: telnet is not an irc client...so everything is done manualy using raw
[00:05] <acronis> uhhhh
[00:05] <kib> stuff your irc client doesn't normally let you even see that its doing
[00:05] <acronis> so how do I find the back up of the boot sector
[00:05] <kib> you wudl have to be an expert on the irc protocol to even do it
[00:06] <nomel> it's not all that complicated though.
[00:06] <kib> acronis: what sector holds the main boot sector
[00:06] <kib> acronis: how many sectors does the partition take up?
[00:06] <kib> acronis: answer those and I will calculate it for you
[00:07] <kib> nomel: not too complciated but you an mirc usr would have no clue
[00:07] <acronis> This isn't as hard as it sounds. The primary NTFS boot sector is located on
[00:07] <kib> since they have no idea what a real irc command looks like
[00:07] <nomel> true dat.
[00:07] <kib> open upo your raw lag and see what they do look like just for things like sendi
[00:07] <kib> you can't just ype the message in telnet
[00:07] <kib> you have to do this:
[00:07] <kib> PRIVMSG #help :you have to do this:
[00:08] <nomel> i always stored the first parts in the clipboard to make it quicker. :)
[00:08] <kib> well you still have to understand the real irc syntax
[00:08] <kib> I suppose once you understand the basicc sintax and most of the raw commands yo
[00:08] <kib> it gets really hairy when you try to do dcc and ctcp
[00:09] <kib> since those have to be quoted with special chars
[00:09] <nomel> i mean, i would store the commands i used a lot in notepad, then copy and pas
[00:09] <kib> and plus sending a dcc file would be fun in telnet :)
[00:09] <nomel> oh...hahah...yeah...never got into dcc. ctcp was easy for the most part.
[00:09] <nomel> hahah...dcc...that's just nuts.
[00:09] <kib> a lot op copy/pasting encoded binary text
[00:09] <kib> sounds like what I call a good time
[00:09] <acronis> The method for verifying the location and integrity of the backup boot sect
[00:09] <nomel> lol
[00:10] * nomel 's hero is kib.
[00:10] <kib> acronis: give me the total number of sectors in the partition and and starting
[00:11] <kib> nomel: I never said I was dumb enough to try it lol
[00:11] <acronis> I won't be at his computer until tomorrow
[00:11] <kib> I just have a good idea what hell it must be making me smart enough not to do i
[00:11] <lsadla> nomel: baby, my boner city
[00:11] <kib> acronis: relative sectors means the number of sectors the partition takes up
[00:11] <nomel> kib: jsut the fact that you said it sounds like fun is enough for me ;)
[00:11] <kib> subtract 1 to find the last sector
[00:11] <acronis> ok
[00:11] <kib> then thats your baby
[00:12] <acronis> o i c
[00:12] <acronis> why didn't they just say that
[00:12] <kib> if you have a partition beginning with sector 100 and sending in sector 400
[00:12] <kib> thats 400 sectors
[00:12] <kib> I mean 300 sectors
[00:12] <kib> so you want 299
[00:12] <acronis> I think it starts at 63
[00:12] <kib> reative to the partition (not the entire drive)
[00:13] <acronis> absolute sector is relative to the entire drive?
[00:13] * nomel is now known as [dib]Nome
[00:13] <kib> well 63 is typical starting point due to the waste generated by a partitioning
[00:14] <acronis> ok
[00:14] <kib> ufs can avoid those loses but its common to see that in microsoft and many vers
[00:14] <kib> anyhow your not after the sector count for the entire drive
[00:14] <kib> your waster the sector number relative to 63 as the starting point
[00:14] <kib> so if the drive is 100 sectors lone
[00:14] <kib> then it ends at 163
[00:14] <blahblah6> Does anyone know a site that's easy to navigate with free ring tones?
[00:15] <kib> of course 163 will be the partition boundry
[00:15] * [dib]Nome is now known as nomel
[00:15] <kib> so you need sector 162
[00:15] <kib> which will be the last usable sector in the partition and where your backup boo
[00:15] <acronis> eh, i'm confused :/
[00:15] <kib> its sector 162 of the entire dick but its sector 99 relative to the partition
[00:15] <acronis> ok
[00:16] <kib> most drive editing utils work relative to a partition
[00:16] <acronis> so 63 = entire disk but it's 0 = partition
[00:16] <acronis> right?
[00:16] <kib> just think of the drive as one long line numbered from 0 to some huge sector nu
[00:16] <kib> and inside that is partitions with beginning and end points
[00:17] <kib> but inside the partitions they also number sectors beginnign with 0 which will
[00:17] <kib> your more interested in the sector numbers realitve to the partition then the e
[00:17] <kib> the last sector a partition uses is used to declare the end of the partition...
[00:18] <acronis> ah, ok
[00:18] <kib> it might make more sesne if you draw it out on paper
[00:18] <kib> but sector 0 of the partition is on sector 63 of the HD
[00:19] <kib> since there is normally a wasted 64 sectors in any disk formated for windows
[00:20] <acronis> ok I got it
[00:22] <acronis> I would've thought I would take the last sector and subtract 64
[00:24] <acronis> 155910824
[00:24] <acronis> that's my last sector
[00:24] <kib> well it depends on how your counting them
[00:24] <acronis> I went to 155910823 and didn't see the boot sector
[00:24] <kib> disk utilities will be counting them relitive to the start of the partition you
[00:24] <kib> so you should also count them the same way to make things eailer
[00:24] <kib> easier
[00:25] <kib> what did you see at 155910823
[00:25] <acronis> ok so how do I find it?
[00:25] <nila> anyone here into cycling?
[00:25] <acronis> nothing
[00:25] <jcxl> do the small headphone jack inputs give inferior sound quality than the big on
[00:25] <kib> and are reading the raw disk sectors or the raw partition sectors
[00:25] <kib> there is always something there. even if its all 0's
[00:26] <acronis> says partition table
[00:26] <kib> it have to be a group do 0's or 1'1
[00:26] <kib> it have to be a group do 0's or 1's
[00:26] <jokesonme> hey
[00:26] <jokesonme> I got a IRC problem
[00:26] <jokesonme> can someone help me
[00:26] <jokesonme> I keep getting banned from channels and it says Fix your ident
[00:26] <jokesonme> how do I fix it
[00:26] <jokesonme> ?
[00:26] <jokesonme> Im using Avast Antivirus
[00:27] <kib> whther or not your helpable depends on how smart you are and how well you can a
[00:27] <jokesonme> could that be blocking the Ident request
[00:27] <kib> jokesonme: its the ~ in your user@
[00:27] <jokesonme> tell me where to go to fix it and it should be fine
[00:27] <kib> you need to run an identd server to clear that
[00:27] <jokesonme> how do I do that kib
[00:27] <kib> many times you have one and all you need do is open up the port on your firewal
[00:27] <kib> or forward the port on nat
[00:28] <jokesonme> what port kib?
[00:28] <acronis> hah
[00:28] <acronis> what do you know
[00:28] <jokesonme> 113
[00:28] <jokesonme> ?
[00:28] <acronis> I went to the last sector and it's there
[00:28] <kib> auth 113/tcp ident tap #Authentication Service
[00:28] <acronis> looks like I didn't have to subtract 1
[00:28] <jokesonme> Im thinking its the Avast blocking 113
[00:28] <kib> thats the port your needing to make sure is going to pass though all nat or fir
[00:29] <kib> the second step is to make some something is running on that port...mirc I know
[00:29] <kib> for other clients they might have it for windows but for non-windows you will n
[00:29] <jokesonme> so just 113 tcp not udp
[00:29] <jokesonme> right?
[00:29] <kib> acronis: it depends on how your program your reading with counts them
[00:29] <kib> but yes if it works then it works I saw
[00:30] <kib> say
[00:30] <kib> jokesonme: well it never hurts to use udp
[00:30] <kib> but I am sure the protocol only uses tcp
[00:30] <kib> normally I open both myself
[00:30] <jokesonme> can you check my ident now
[00:30] <acronis> i'm using acronis disk director
[00:30] <jokesonme> see if it is working
[00:30] <jokesonme> or do I need to reconnect
[00:30] <jokesonme> to the server
[00:30] <jokesonme> if I opened ports
[00:30] <SuperDude> yes
[00:30] <kib> c-24-17-219-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net port 113 closed.
[00:31] <kib> I guess it worked
[00:31] <kib> your ~ is gone
[00:31] <jokesonme> yep
[00:31] <jokesonme> Linksys firewall
[00:31] <jokesonme> forwarded the port
[00:31] <Oggy> I cant get everquest to run on my pc
[00:31] <kib> now more servers and channels will trust you
[00:31] <Oggy> wtf
[00:31] <jokesonme> WOW is better that everquest
[00:31] <jokesonme> :-)
[00:31] <kib> if its mirc that is listening on the port then mirc sets the identd reply
[00:31] <jokesonme> than
[00:32] <kib> if your running idend on your system as root then the identd reply is often the
[00:32] <kib> everquest is still acount
[00:32] <Oggy> jokesome
[00:32] <kib> I thought that died like 10 years ago
[00:32] <Oggy> is it a free download
[00:32] <Oggy> where can I get it
[00:33] <jokesonme> Oggy
[00:33] <jokesonme> what are you talking about
[00:33] <lsadla> oggy :D
[00:33] <jokesonme> World of Warcraft you buy
[00:33] <jokesonme> I dont think you can download it for free and play it online
[00:33] <kib> try www.newegg.com or your favorite software web site
[00:33] <nila> WoW gets boring though
[00:33] <jokesonme> everyone I know says its better
[00:33] <kib> once you own wow then they expect you to pay monthly to keep playing it
[00:33] <nila> taikes too long to do stuff
[00:34] <jokesonme> well takes a long time on Everquest too
[00:34] <nila> just eats all your free time
[00:34] <kib> its like being shafted by blizzard twice
[00:34] <jokesonme> longer on FFXI
[00:34] <jokesonme> I dont play pay games
[00:34] <jokesonme> only one I really like is
[00:34] <jokesonme> Phantasy Star Online
[00:34] <kib> of course they make such good dsoftware people line up to eb screwed by blizzar
[00:34] <jokesonme> whos with me?
[00:34] <kib> so all in all I would say blizzard is a really smart company
[00:34] <jokesonme> Phantasy Star Universe
[00:34] <jokesonme> whos excited about it other than me?
[00:35] <jokesonme> I know the graphics dont look awesome but that game is fun fun fun
[00:35] <kib> I play eve online
[00:35] <kib> free download and only $10 per month
[00:35] <kib> plus I can train while not even logged in
[00:36] <Oggy> this is what I get when I try to lauch everquest for pc
[00:36] <Oggy> http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/6514/errorto4.jpg
[00:37] <Oggy> anyone?
[00:38] <Chrono-Z> Something with DirectX9 it looks like.
[00:39] <jokesonme> what are some quality Efnet channels
[00:39] <jokesonme> can someone suggest some active ones to me
[00:39] <jokesonme> ?
[00:39] <jokesonme> where the chats pretty interesting
[00:40] <jokesonme> and useful
[00:40] <lsadla> directx9 is a good invent, directx 10 is a trick by microsoft
[00:40] <lsadla> they just want us to pay more money for their shit
[00:40] <Chrono-Z> jokesonme well at 3:40EST that may be a bit grim of a prospect.
[00:40] <jokesonme> well this thing is connected around the world
[00:40] <lsadla> i already decided to bycott their products
[00:40] <Oggy> but whats it trying to say that I dont have dx9 installed
[00:40] <Oggy> ?
[00:41] <jokesonme> what channel might be able to educate me pretty well if I sit and listen?
[00:41] <Chrono-Z> Yes indeed it is jokesonme. But rehardless of that fact most activity seem
[00:41] <Oggy> how can I not have directx9 installed
[00:41] <Chrono-Z> Unless you speak other languages of course.
[00:41] <Oggy> i run UT 2K4
[00:41] <jokesonme> microsoft.com/directx
[00:41] <lsadla> oggu: babeeee
[00:41] <Oggy> >:[
[00:41] <Oggy> YOU need to be ignored
[00:42] <jokesonme> I think your graphics card needs to support it too
[00:42] <Oggy> Video: Dell 2005FPW (Digital) on nVidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) (1680x1050
[00:42] <jokesonme> do you have the latest drivers for the graphics card
[00:42] <Oggy> Quadro's
[00:43] <Oggy> the best
[00:43] <Chrono-Z> There shouldn't be anything that everquest requires that a DX9 vid card sh
[00:43] <Oggy> the best drivers I can use with my card
[00:43] <lsadla> oggy: u cant run turbo cache on that resolution
[00:43] <lsadla> lol
[00:44] <jokesonme> Oggy are you saying your having problems with playing the game
[00:44] <jokesonme> ?
[00:44] <nomel> i need to take a shower...but i don't want to.
[00:44] <Oggy> launching it jokesome
[00:45] <Oggy> I did a dxdiag.exe
[00:45] <nomel> i have two stacks of coins that i've previously flipped. i'm assuming that th
[00:45] <Oggy> it saids I have dx9c
[00:45] <jokesonme> how about that one thing where cache is set to background or programs
[00:45] <nomel> it says i don't have to take a shower.
[00:45] <jokesonme> could that help him?
[00:45] <jokesonme> in the system blade
[00:45] <nomel> that's process priority...not cache.
[00:45] <nomel> i believe.
[00:45] <jokesonme> well I wasnt sure what it was called
[00:45] <jokesonme> :-)
[00:46] <nomel> it sets how long each program has use of the processor.
[00:46] <Swuave> I'm getting a Generic Host Process for Win32 Services error.
[00:46] <Swuave> If I were to hit send or don't send my internet would be gone until i reboot
[00:46] <jokesonme> isnt that a virus
[00:46] <jokesonme> ?
[00:46] <jokesonme> Currupt windows file caused by a virus
[00:46] <Swuave> I scanned my computer with about 4 different spy ware malware ect.. scanners
[00:47] <Swuave> reg scanners
[00:47] <Swuave> everything scannerws
[00:47] <jokesonme> you try Hijack This
[00:47] <jokesonme> ?
[00:47] <Swuave> I got rid of a virus that i had but now i have this prob and the virus is go
[00:47] <Swuave> i use hijack this
[00:47] <Swuave> my browser has no addons running
[00:47] <Ateisto> I'd like to learn to use Photoshop, but I have absolutely no knowledge of i
[00:47] <Swuave> my proccess in my bg are the very very bare min to run windows atm
[00:47] <jokesonme> How about restarting your pc and sticking the windows disc in and doing a
[00:47] <Swuave> I have no probs on start up and only windows services are enabled.
[00:47] <jokesonme> would that work?
[00:47] <Chrono-Z> Ateisto Photoshop for Dummies or Idiot's Guide to Photoshop.
[00:48] <jokesonme> Ateisto you should get the book Im reading
[00:48] <jokesonme> Photoshop : Classroom in a book
[00:48] <Chrono-Z> You could also check out your local college book store, they will have ins
[00:48] <jokesonme> by adobe
[00:49] <jokesonme> its really good and has expert tips from Photoshop Evalgelists
[00:49] <jokesonme> Evangelists
[00:49] <jokesonme> lol
[00:49] <Ateisto> Are Photoshop books really that common?
[00:49] <Chrono-Z> Yes.
[00:49] <Star_Fire> Ate: yes
[00:49] <Swuave> Jokesonme: I guess i'll give that a try.
[00:49] <Star_Fire> Ate: you can get similar tutorials online
[00:49] <Swuave> be back in a min to thank or complain lawl:)
[00:49] <jokesonme> make sure you have a latest version of it
[00:49] <jokesonme> the books I mean
[00:50] <Ateisto> okay, thanks.
[00:50] <jokesonme> Photoshop is probably one of the most interesting things anyone can learn
[00:50] * ASk` is now known as ASk
[00:50] <jokesonme> its really fun to play around in once you get familiar with it
[00:52] * nomel is now known as nomel_slp
[00:52] <tntcoder> guys with tickets for a concert, when you are limited to 4 per person, is
[00:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[01:01] <sixcaps> made it
[01:02] <sixcaps> http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/c8ceece673.jpg
[01:02] <sixcaps> 3ghz
[01:02] <sixcaps> i knew i could
[01:08] <ASk> stock cooling?
[01:08] <sixcaps> nope
[01:08] <ASk> heh.
[01:08] <sixcaps> i changed the cooler
[01:08] <ASk> because 42C is low
[01:09] <sixcaps> zalman 7900
[01:09] <ASk> you upped the bus though
[01:09] <ASk> multiplier's locked?
[01:09] <sixcaps> yeah
[01:09] <sixcaps> i upped the bus
[01:10] <sixcaps> i'm gonna try 350
[01:10] <nesto> i just plugged in my monitor
[01:10] <sixcaps> bus
[01:10] <nesto> and the usual resolution looks really weird
[01:10] <Phusion_> what's the "usual" resolution?
[01:11] <sixcaps> gotta do some more reading on how to work the multiplier
[01:11] <kib> 400x300 :)
[01:11] <sixcaps> still learning...
[01:11] <nesto> 1280 x 960
[01:11] <nesto> i mean
[01:11] <nesto> 1440 x 900
[01:11] <kib> actually I am at 2048x1536
[01:11] <nesto> 19 inch WS
[01:11] <Phusion_> ah
[01:11] <Phusion_> is it new?
[01:11] <kib> I often use 1600x1200 more often though
[01:12] <nesto> yea
[01:12] <nesto> it worked before
[01:12] <Phusion_> before...
[01:12] <nesto> but sometimes it would do this so i just reset it
[01:12] <nesto> i moved it from living room to bedroom
[01:12] <nesto> and it would go fine
[01:12] <Phusion_> and now it looks different?
[01:12] <Phusion_> I'm not sure why that would be, weirdness is usually driver related or if
[01:14] <nesto> yea
[01:14] <nesto> it looks different
[01:14] <nesto> no it worked fine on anothe rpc also
[01:15] <Oggy> Dell 2005FPW (Digital) on nVidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) (1680x1050x32bpp
[01:15] <nesto> on another pc
[01:17] <nesto> like its
[01:17] <nesto> being strectched
[01:17] <nesto> and i have to scroll my mouse to the right to get it to fit
[01:19] <ASk> you are running at a resolution greater than max?
[01:28] <Firejax> hello
[01:36] <nesto> ask, no
[01:36] <nesto> 1440 x 900
[01:36] <nesto> is the best looking resolution on my viewsonic 19. lcd Widescreen
[01:44] <nesto> what do u think i should do
[01:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[01:56] <SAtan^^> how I register a nick?
[01:56] <SAtan^^> please
[01:56] <Star_Fire> satan: no registration services here
[01:57] <SAtan^^> nod.. thank you
[01:57] <SAtan^^> x is here?
[01:57] <SAtan^^> no
[01:57] <SAtan^^> okies.. thanx
[01:58] <sixcaps> http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/de94d84e01.jpg
[01:58] <sixcaps> ASk i got 3.1ghz
[01:58] <sixcaps> im not gonna go any further 350 bus kept giving me a blue screen
[02:10] <nesto> what do i do ?
[02:10] <nesto> :(
[02:10] <bob`dylan> if a chan is invite-only, full, and password protected, and someone tries
[02:10] <sixcaps> what's a good psu under $200??
[02:10] <BadarZ> it will probably say +i
[02:10] <BadarZ> its easy to try, bob`dylan
[02:11] <bob`dylan> ok, BadarZ, try to join #mj and tell me what it says
[02:11] <BadarZ> join #badarz and tell me what it says
[02:11] <bob`dylan> lol
[02:11] <BadarZ> [19:11] *** Cannot join #mj: Cannot join channel (+i)
[02:11] <bob`dylan> yeah, i got invite only too
[02:12] <bob`dylan> now take off +i and let me see what it says
[02:12] <nesto> i dont know how to fix my resolution
[02:12] <nesto> it isnt look the same
[02:14] * bob`dylan sets BadarZ on fire
[02:14] <BadarZ> bleh i have to make it again
[02:14] <BadarZ> sec
[02:14] <encer> hi
[02:15] <bob`dylan> heh
[02:15] <BadarZ> try now
[02:15] <BadarZ> its +lk
[02:15] <bob`dylan> "need correct key"
[02:16] <bob`dylan> so invite-only takes precedence over password, and password takes precede
[02:16] <bob`dylan> and those are the only ways besides banning to keep someone from joining
[02:16] <BadarZ> yes, and the channel limit is not a absolute thing
[02:16] <BadarZ> i.e. during a join flood you may see the limit being exceeded by 5-10
[02:17] <bob`dylan> hrm... that's kinda odd
[02:17] <bob`dylan> like when a split resolves?
[02:17] <BadarZ> no, when someone is flooding with a botnet
[02:17] <bob`dylan> ah
[02:17] <BadarZ> its a lag between the join request and the ircd processing the request
[02:17] <bob`dylan> i c
[02:18] <bob`dylan> so basically by the time the server notices the chan limit's been exceede
[02:18] <bob`dylan> :)
[02:18] <BadarZ> yes
[02:20] <BadarZ> its like 10 people join simultaneously from different servers, and at the ti
[02:22] <bob`dylan> hrm... my psychic toast sense is tingling...
[02:22] * bob`dylan transforms
[02:22] * bob`dylan is now known as to\A\st
[02:22] * to\A\st to the rescue!!!!
[02:52] <nesto> how can i cut thru glass
[02:52] <nesto> withouth shattering it
[02:52] <nesto> break in glass without shattering it
[02:52] <BadarZ> use an industrial glass cutter
[02:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[02:55] <Kor> or a glass cutting knife if it's thin enough
[02:56] <Kor> sometimes if it's thing you can just score it and then crack it
[02:56] <Kor> without shattering
[03:01] <Nawobie> hello i need help to set up SUN RAQ550 server anyone can help me ?
[03:04] <belter> #unixhelp
[03:04] <belter> only thing i've done with a sun system was change out a power supply
[03:21] <BadarZ> hello intrin
[03:21] <BadarZ> iNToIT
[03:21] <okidoki_I> Hi I'm having trouble accessing a friends site. may someone try and acce
[03:22] <BadarZ> its don
[03:22] <BadarZ> *down
[03:26] <nesto> i need help
[03:26] <nesto> with my monitor issue
[03:26] <okidoki_I> oki thnx Badarz... just needed confirmation :)
[03:26] <nesto> my resolution used to be coo now its all stretched out
[03:26] <nesto> its like my resolution is too big for my monitor
[03:26] <nesto> but it always worked out before
[03:26] <nesto> i have to scroll my mouse to the right to see the right side
[03:27] <okidoki_I> Ok nesto your using some kind of "virtual resolution" a addition bit of
[03:27] <nesto> how do i take it off
[03:28] <okidoki_I> we need to diable that. easy todo once we find out some info.. Laptop o
[03:28] <belter> go back to the display properties, and make sure that the desktop size and s
[03:34] <MiN-0> i need to add a tag to a video what program should i use
[03:34] <MiN-0> something quick
[03:35] <BadarZ> windows movie maker
[03:38] <mafiozox> hi, can anyone help me with some router questions?
[03:39] <BadarZ> yes, we can.
[03:39] <MiN-0> like
[03:39] <MiN-0> text to the bottom of my video :p
[03:40] <mafiozox> alright. i'm trying to set up a private ftp with BPftp, however, i know i
[03:40] <belter> doom9.org has a bunch of subtitle how-tos
[03:40] <belter> portforwarding.com
[03:41] <mafiozox> page not found
[03:43] <belter> portforward.com
[03:43] <mafiozox> danke
[03:44] <belter> np
[03:45] <belter> you know the day is screwed when the first cup of coffee is administered int
[03:53] <oiiid> what is more bloatware - newest winamp or itunes?
[03:54] <Chrono-Z> They are about 6 to one half dozen.
[03:54] <Chrono-Z> Then again unless you have an old ass rig is it really that much of an iss
[03:54] <ASk> oiiid: itunes by far
[03:54] <ASk> if you are concerned about bloat
[03:54] <ASk> use foobar2000
[03:55] <oiiid> thanks mate
[03:55] <ASk> it may look 'simple' at a first glance
[03:55] <ASk> but if you invest a few hours into it, it can look quite nice, and still take v
[03:55] <ASk> + it's ideal for people with huge collections
[03:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[03:56] <oiiid> n1
[03:56] <belter> platform?
[03:56] <oiiid> im already cheching it
[03:56] <oiiid> ck
[03:56] <ASk> belter: Windows
[03:56] <belter> k
[03:56] <mafiozox> can anyone try dcc sending me something?
[03:56] <ASk> the lead developer used to be on winamp team
[03:56] <ASk> then he left :p
[03:57] <mafiozox> wow, works
[03:57] <mafiozox> can i try dcc'ing you?
[03:57] <belter> atleast make it intresting
[03:57] <oiiid> ASk wonder if he regrets :D
[03:58] <sixcaps> hey ASk i got 3.1ghz
[04:07] * etho`842 is now known as etho`
[04:08] <nightcrow> hello
[04:08] <nightcrow> i wanted to develop a website that can send sms's - can someone please pu
[04:08] <nightcrow> I've never done this before so i havent got a clue where to begin
[04:09] <nightcrow> can someone please help me?
[04:11] <ASk> nightcrow: you should contact your local cellphone companies and ask them about
[04:11] <ASk> and you would probably have to pay them per each
[04:11] <ASk> or do something else, like advertise them
[04:11] <ASk> after getting the required protocol, just make your form input processor contac
[04:20] <P3rfecti0> Virus channel?
[04:20] <P3rfecti0> please.
[04:31] <kib> most of the time they charge the receiver of the SMS for the message not the se
[04:31] <kib> although I suppose some charge both
[04:31] <kib> P3rfecti0: why are you looking for a virus channel?
[04:32] <Xv2-3> P3rfecti0 try #bearcave instead
[04:33] <kib> P3rfecti0: are you trying to find a place to pass around a virus?
[04:33] <P3rfecti0> lol.
[04:33] <P3rfecti0> No i'm tryign to find a place to get help.
[04:33] <P3rfecti0> With a virus/
[04:33] <LATiGiDi> can anyone help me
[04:33] <kib> you could try #windows or #computers
[04:33] <LATiGiDi> i cant connect my vnc to efnet
[04:33] <LATiGiDi> *bnc
[04:33] <kib> since generaly windows is a microsoft problem
[04:33] <P3rfecti0> k thanks.
[04:33] <LATiGiDi> got disconnected (from irc.efnet.net) Reason: Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Bad
[04:34] <kib> LATiGiDi: are you getting soe sort of errror message?
[04:34] <LATiGiDi> that one
[04:34] <kib> bad user info ?
[04:34] <LATiGiDi> got disconnected (from irc.efnet.net) Reason: Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Bad
[04:34] <LATiGiDi> yes
[04:34] <kib> what user info are yous ending
[04:34] <Xv2-3> #dmsetup is a Virus Removal Help Channel
[04:34] <kib> sending*
[04:34] <LATiGiDi> dunno
[04:34] <LATiGiDi> ~lnq as ident i think
[04:34] <kib> Xv2-3: he left already...but I passed it along to him in pm
[04:35] <kib> LATiGiDi: some servers dislike ~
[04:35] <kib> but I know some dont care
[04:35] <kib> also why are you connectingto 127.0.0.1 ?
[04:35] <LATiGiDi> which ones dont care?
[04:35] <kib> well ahsan222 here has ~ and he appears to have used irc.blessed.net
[04:36] <LATiGiDi> got disconnected (from irc.efnet.net) Reason: Closing Link: 80.244.68.46 (
[04:36] <kib> P3rfecti0 also used had one and he was on irc.desync.com
[04:36] <kib> banned huh
[04:36] <LATiGiDi> now new error
[04:36] <kib> at least the IP if correct this time
[04:37] <kib> so what evil thing did you do to become klined on that server?
[04:37] <LATiGiDi> dunno
[04:37] <LATiGiDi> i even came klined on my home ip
[04:37] <LATiGiDi> dunno why
[04:37] * Disconnected
[04:37] * Attempting to rejoin channel #help
[04:37] * Rejoined channel #help
[04:37] * Topic is 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/Idle Chat/Ms
[04:37] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Fri Sep 15 03:55:38
[04:38] <kib> you r avery banned person it seems
[04:38] <kib> your a very banned person it seems
[04:38] <kib> but you appear to be able to connect from home now
[04:38] <LATiGiDi> how do we fix that?
[04:38] <kib> since you are here among us
[04:38] <kib> and your on irc.desync.com
[04:38] <LATiGiDi> yes
[04:38] <LATiGiDi> but i need to use bnc
[04:38] <kib> so try that server with your bnc
[04:39] <CATWatch5> is vista rc1 stable and fast enough to install and use as a main os?
[04:39] <belter> hell no
[04:39] <kib> CATWatch5: umm its Microsoft ... need I say more/
[04:39] <CATWatch5> there r reports of bugs?
[04:39] <CATWatch5> other than it being from ms
[04:39] <kib> even when its released it wont meed your requirments of stability and freedom o
[04:40] <CATWatch5> ok
[04:40] <kib> but feel free to give it a go
[04:40] <kib> test it out in vmware or something
[04:40] <kib> and I suggest doubling or tripling whatever ram you had for xp
[04:40] <kib> 512MB just isn't much..it will use half that just to boot up
[04:41] <CATWatch5> i have 1gb
[04:41] <CATWatch5> on my athlon 900
[04:41] <CATWatch5> should i triple it?
[04:41] <belter> 900mhz?
[04:41] <kib> well 1Gb might run a few apps ok
[04:41] <CATWatch5> i can add up to 1.5gb
[04:41] <kib> dependson who much you need to run I guess
[04:41] <CATWatch5> ya man my pc is for internet
[04:41] <CATWatch5> and school
[04:42] <CATWatch5> i just added a 30 dollar geforce 6200
[04:42] <belter> i've seen vista on a dual core, and it's still hard to swallow
[04:42] <CATWatch5> to make it vista ready
[04:42] <kib> but 1GB might be ther minium I would use for it if I were to want a couple apps
[04:42] <CATWatch5> so i should add another 512?
[04:42] <belter> your chip is to slow to run vista
[04:42] <kib> if Iw ere to end up wanting to do grpahics work I work or want to run a doxen o
[04:42] <CATWatch5> no its not
[04:42] <CATWatch5> read the vista specs
[04:42] <belter> fine, install it and find out
[04:43] <belter> according to the xp specs you can run xp on a 300mhz system
[04:43] <kib> the best way to see how it works is to install and find out how it runs your ap
[04:43] <CATWatch5> the whole reason the fast gpu is required is because it takes cycles from
[04:43] <belter> that works fantastic too
[04:43] <CATWatch5> otherwise its slow
[04:43] <kib> belter: I would love to see someone manage to get anything done at 300mhz on xp
[04:43] <belter> and a geforce 6200 is going to save the day? please
[04:43] <CATWatch5> ~1ghz athlon is good enoguh
[04:43] <kib> belter: I am sure it will install and boot but I don't know how much use it wou
[04:43] <CATWatch5> with 1.5gb ram
[04:44] <FlopSter> kib: i installed xp on a pentium 266mmx with 96megs of ram
[04:44] <FlopSter> ran fine
[04:44] <FlopSter> mind you i used nlite to reduce the OS heavily as well :)
[04:44] <kib> I got AMD 3000+ that I think is a bit slow compared to 98 and my 400mhz P2
[04:44] <kib> I mean P3
[04:44] <CATWatch5> i bet its the ram
[04:45] <LATiGiDi> so what about laptop cpu
[04:46] <LATiGiDi> a 1.6 dual core is said to be vista capable
[04:47] <CATWatch5> Windows Vista Premium Ready 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
[04:47] <CATWatch5> so i am borderline
[04:47] <CATWatch5> thats the recommended specs not minimum specs
[04:48] <geeeb> how to jion in mp3?
[04:49] <geeeb> hello
[04:49] <geeeb> how to join mp3?
[04:49] <geeeb> how to join #mp3?
[04:50] <belter> remeber win98 when it first came out, before second edition... or windows 2k
[04:50] <belter> /join #mp3
[04:52] <ASk> Funnily enough, none of my boxes have been compatible with Win98 SE
[04:52] <ASk> whereas the original Win98 worked fine
[04:53] <ASk> belter: I wish that Vista would flop like ME did
[04:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[04:57] <belter> you brought up a good point with vista being put on all new desktops sold wi
[05:02] <tntcoder> how would i go about getting a summer intern job in IT in amsterdam next s
[05:03] <geeeb> how to join mp3??
[05:13] <nightcrow> does anyone have any links on how to develop webpages that can send sms's
[05:13] <ASk> webpages don't send anything
[05:13] <nightcrow> yeh, im aware of that
[05:13] <ASk> the most your web server can do, is pipe the input to one of your web forms
[05:13] <nightcrow> but you know what i mean
[05:14] <ASk> to an application
[05:14] <ASk> external application
[05:14] <nightcrow> i know - but there must be an api
[05:14] <ASk> sure, call your cellphone company and ask them
[05:14] <nightcrow> i mean, i code in PHP...and i cna write the whole form part, but havent g
[05:14] <nightcrow> with regards to the whole sms thing
[05:14] <ASk> since you are sending the messages via their servers, i'm sure that for a certa
[05:14] <nightcrow> hmmm
[05:15] <nightcrow> im thinking that it cant be that complex
[05:15] <ASk> it's no different than sending email
[05:15] <ASk> sending an email requires access to an SMTP server
[05:15] <nightcrow> thats what i would assume, ie. mail serer etc
[05:16] <nightcrow> server
[05:16] <ASk> and knowledge of the SMTP protocol
[05:16] <nightcrow> yeh
[05:16] <nightcrow> but there must be something online
[05:16] <ASk> sending an SMS requires access to, let's call it "SMSTP" server
[05:16] <nightcrow> i couldnt even find anything on php.net
[05:16] <ASk> and "SMSTP" protocol
[05:16] <nightcrow> its called SMSE
[05:16] <ASk> since both are probably proprietary to the cell phone company
[05:16] <ASk> and the servers are ran by them
[05:16] <ASk> they are the ones you should ask
[05:16] <nightcrow> i hear ya
[05:18] <nightcrow> ok - well thanks
[05:18] <nightcrow> ill work something out
[05:18] <nightcrow> cheers
[05:23] <sledge> ok i have a form the lets you right a message and attach a phto and it sends
[05:31] <atrririr> hi there anyone here know about SATA?
[05:32] <atrririr> i connected a SATA drive to my ide sysytem, enabled all i could see in bio
[05:33] <atrririr> & if so are they mobo specific or generic
[05:34] <Oggy> ugg I hate it when servers dont have primeval to go with torlan
[05:34] <Oggy> playing torlan all day sux
[05:34] <Oggy> gotta mix it up a bit
[05:35] * etho` is now known as etho
[05:36] <pimpind> would someone be willing to download anapod demo for me and zip it up and e
[05:36] <Oggy> sure
[05:36] <Oggy> gimmmee the info
[05:37] <pimpind> click on the anapod explorer 8.9.8 trail
[05:38] <Kor> don't like itunes?
[05:38] <pimpind> i cant install itunes on this machine
[05:39] <pimpind> no privilages
[05:39] <Kor> ah
[05:39] <pimpind> thinkin maybe anapod might work
[05:41] <Oggy> pimpind msg
[05:41] <atrririr> hi there anyone here know about SATA? i connected a SATA drive to my ide s
[05:41] <atrririr> im not installing a raid system, i only have one drive
[05:44] <atrririr> no one here use sata?
[05:44] <sledge> ok i have a form the lets you right a message and attach a phto and it sends
[05:44] <Oggy> pimpind sorry guy its not sending
[05:44] <Oggy> hmmrf
[05:45] <molc> hello. can anybody tell me how to search for a channel?
[05:46] <xtrode> molc, go to www.irchelp.org - there's a channels list there you can search t
[05:47] <molc> I'm new to irc, I'm using KSirc on Gentoo linux. unfortunately it doesn't seem
[05:48] <molc> sorry I didn't see your reply. thanks I'll have a look
[05:49] <Kor> try /list *searchtxt*
[05:49] <Kor> like if you want channels about cars, /list *cars*
[05:50] <molc> that last suggestion didn't quite work out right (/list whatever)
[05:51] <Kor> you have to use the **
[05:51] <molc> sorry, my mistake again
[05:51] <Kor> and at times, the server may be to busy to handle the request
[05:51] <Kor> so you may have to try a few times
[05:52] <molc> requests that I send to the server such as that, do they get sent to everybody
[05:52] <molc> or is it a private conversation between me and the server?
[05:52] <all2human> what is TXburst
[05:53] <xtrode> it's just you and the server
[05:53] <Kor> only one who sees things like /list and /whois is you
[05:54] <molc> thank whatsit for that! the amount of crap I just sent to my screen would prob
[05:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[05:56] <molc> thanks for the help. I'm off
[05:56] <Smidget> what's a way to search IN a collection of .rar files to find a certain file
[05:57] <Kor> not sure
[05:57] <Kor> maybe something in winrar?
[05:57] <Kor> or perhaps there's a search in archive function somewhere in the windows search
[05:57] <estranger> anyone ever ran linux 2.6 on....... redhat 8.0 :o
[05:57] <Smidget> kor: i looked in windows search with no luck :/ lemme see winrar
[05:58] <Kor> do you want to search in a specific rar, or do you want to like search your PC
[05:58] <Smidget> ok i found it, in winrar, should have looked first
[05:58] <Smidget> thanks :)
[05:59] <Kor> coo
[05:59] <Ribet> what should i write to see nickname whois?
[05:59] <pimpind> ./whois nickname
[05:59] <pimpind> with out the .
[06:00] <Ribet> thanks much
[06:00] <Kor> lot of softballs this morning
[06:01] * etho is now known as etho`842
[06:01] * etho`842 is now known as etho
[06:01] * etho is now known as etho`
[06:01] * etho` is now known as etho
[06:03] <sledge> anyone have any experience with html emails?? i am having trouble with it
[06:04] * m|ike is now known as svcdhaq
[06:06] <pimpind_> oggy u there
[06:09] * svcdhaq is now known as m|ike
[06:11] <Dfajkf> anyone know why I wouldn't be able to get sound on youtube?
[06:13] <xtrode> tigers are great! they're the toast of the town. life's always better when
[06:15] <Triclops> anyone can recommend some good parental control software? (i.e. computer p
[06:18] <cyberfrg> Triclops: what are you trying to do?
[06:18] <Tsai> cyberfr0g he is trying to stop goat porn
[06:20] <Oggy> goat pr0n
[06:20] <Oggy> >:)
[06:20] <cyberfrg> delicious
[06:20] <Oggy> yesssshhhhh
[06:21] <deww> i got an email from dell
[06:21] <deww> Dell and AMD rocks your world
[06:21] <Oggy> oh?
[06:21] <Oggy> hahah
[06:21] <deww> yeah real marketing stuff
[06:21] <deww> i was like wow finally
[06:21] <Oggy> ITS YOUR world dell and amd
[06:22] <deww> finally after intel reclaim top performer
[06:22] <Oggy> deww honestly right now its a waste for gamers
[06:22] <Oggy> intels new performer
[06:23] <Oggy> I mean thats my opinion
[06:23] <deww> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/odg/odg_email1?c=us&cs=19&l=e
[06:23] <Oggy> cause if you take a good look at , ppl already have machines with good cpu pro
[06:24] <Oggy> the money you are going to spend on putting together a conroe machine can be b
[06:25] <Triclops> at this point, CPUs are only being made for overclockers, programers, and
[06:25] <Triclops> * programmers
[06:25] <deww> i just wished they came out sooner and helped AMD out sooner
[06:25] <Oggy> wow that is a sweet box
[06:25] <Oggy> man for the price
[06:25] <cyberfrg> screw amd
[06:25] <Triclops> hmm
[06:25] <Triclops> AMD w/ DDR2?
[06:26] <Triclops> must be new chipset
[06:26] <Triclops> AM2
[06:26] <Triclops> socket with nF5
[06:26] <Oggy> its onboard memory controller is whats needed for gaming
[06:26] <bassgoon> Oggy, what are you talking about
[06:27] <bassgoon> the latest intel chips perform better than the latest amd chips in games
[06:27] <Oggy> what games
[06:27] <bassgoon> and the intel ones have better memory latency and throughput
[06:27] <Triclops> ...
[06:27] <bassgoon> fear, bf2, hl2 etc.
[06:27] <Triclops> <@deww> finally after intel reclaim top performer
[06:27] <bassgoon> from the benchmarks I saw...
[06:27] <Whasa> Anyone here really good reguarding math ? I need a wee bit of help with somet
[06:28] <Triclops> damn
[06:28] <Oggy> its a waste
[06:28] <Triclops> they took out the NO homework policy
[06:28] <Triclops> =\
[06:28] <Oggy> until I see a game that needs that kind of cpu
[06:28] <Oggy> I will get it
[06:28] <Triclops> yep
[06:28] <Oggy> until then I havent seen it
[06:28] <bassgoon> 1. it was stupid, and 2. how do you know he needs homework help
[06:28] <Oggy> so everyone is good with amd chip
[06:28] <bassgoon> I'd probably buy a core 2 right now...
[06:29] <Oggy> with what video card?
[06:29] <Triclops> oh noes
[06:29] <Triclops> that can be worse than amd vs intel
[06:30] <Oggy> An amd chip is plenty to run todays games
[06:31] <bassgoon> it is
[06:31] <bassgoon> a nice dual core
[06:31] <bassgoon> yum
[06:31] <Oggy> I mean look at the machine deww posted
[06:31] <Triclops> intel had a seminar a while back in regards to the speed wall cpus would h
[06:32] <Oggy> that is alot machine for 600 bux
[06:32] <Triclops> and that's w/ a monitor
[06:33] <deww> i just want a dual core machine with a ton of ram to play with the vmwware ser
[06:33] <deww> :-)
[06:33] <Oggy> exactly and Im sure it can run todays game with no probs
[06:33] <Triclops> heh
[06:33] <Triclops> well
[06:33] <Triclops> NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Integrated Graphics GPU
[06:33] <Triclops> don't know about that
[06:34] <bassgoon> eek...
[06:34] <bassgoon> its better than intel
[06:34] <bassgoon> but won't play games
[06:34] <cyberfrg> ummm
[06:34] <deww> i won't be using it for games
[06:34] <deww> :/
[06:34] <Oggy> its upgradable im sure
[06:34] <bassgoon> to play games decently in a laptop you need an x1600 or 7600
[06:34] <cyberfrg> upgrade it
[06:34] <Oggy> if needed
[06:34] <bassgoon> oh not a laptop
[06:34] <bassgoon> srry
[06:34] <cyberfrg> that desktop is awsome
[06:34] <Triclops> yeah, for the price
[06:34] <bassgoon> are you SURE the video is upgradable?\
[06:34] <Whasa> Anyone here really good reguarding math ? I need a wee bit of help with somet
[06:35] <Whasa> what desktop might you be talking about that 600 n worth it
[06:35] <bassgoon> oh you can buy it with an x1300
[06:35] <bassgoon> lol
[06:35] <bassgoon> Whasa, did you try #math
[06:35] <Triclops> 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro [add $100 or $3/month1]
[06:35] <Whasa> it autokick/banned me from #math
[06:35] <Triclops> taht's the highest
[06:35] <cyberfrg> bassgoon: yes they are very upgradeable
[06:35] <Whasa> no clue why
[06:35] <Whasa> i just got here
[06:35] <Whasa> try and join n see if it bans you as well
[06:36] <bassgoon> prolly don't like canadians
[06:36] <Triclops> lol
[06:36] <Whasa> lmao well that wouldnt effect me seeing as Im not one of em
[06:36] <Ansz> hi, someone know an image website? i mean a website i can upload images to?
[06:36] <Whasa> imageshack.us
[06:36] <Whasa> tinypic.com
[06:36] <Whasa> ect
[06:36] <Ansz> imageshack ty
[06:36] <Triclops> imageshack is the best
[06:36] <Ansz> i think so too
[06:36] <Ansz> but i always forget his url/name
[06:36] <Triclops> stay away from photobucket
[06:37] <Triclops> v_v
[06:37] <Whasa> I quite like pb Triclops :P
[06:37] <Ansz> what's that sign?
[06:37] <Whasa> but yeah, math autobanned so sux :|
[06:37] <Triclops> that's a sighing/nodding face
[06:37] <Whasa> and what sys are you guys talking about thats 600 bux w/ monitor
[06:38] <Oggy> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/odg/odg_email1?c=us&cs=19&l=e
[06:38] <Whasa> ahh
[06:38] <Oggy> deww why run vmware
[06:38] <bassgoon> Whasa, your domain is .ca
[06:38] <bassgoon> whois whasa
[06:38] <bassgoon> eer
[06:39] <bassgoon> yeah your server I mean
[06:39] <bassgoon> lol
[06:39] <Triclops> Whasa using irc.dks.ca DKS Canadian EFNet Client Server
[06:39] <deww> Oggy: 1 powerful machine to play with is better than 4 cheaper macines to play
[06:39] <Whasa> 50 bux extra for 512 stick
[06:39] <Oggy> =)
[06:39] <Whasa> lol not my fault i got routed to that ircd, def not canadian
[06:40] <bassgoon> lool
[06:40] <Triclops> sooner or later, amd & intel are gonna have to start integrating stuff in
[06:40] <Triclops> and, fixing the heat issue some more
[06:40] * ]jjd[ is now known as ]JJD[
[06:40] <Whasa> mm, that box isnt so bad, but defn ot wroth the upgrades :(
[06:41] <Whasa> youd be better off building it most likely
[06:41] <Triclops> no
[06:41] <Whasa> without the monitor it comes up to 699 the way id want it lol
[06:41] <Triclops> the monitor + operating system + cpu alone w/ shipping & tax is probably w
[06:43] <Triclops> wtf
[06:43] <Whasa> mm ya prob would, 100 for mobo, lets assume 100 for cpu, case/psu 50 bux, 1gb
[06:43] <Whasa> mm thats 565
[06:43] <pimpind> anyone other alternative ipod programs besides itunes
[06:43] <naeasd> http://server3.dasarbeitslosenspiel.de/beg.php?id=6088
[06:43] <pimpind> Oggy u there
[06:43] <Whasa> yeah, prob would be better off going with the dell, but still kinda a ripp
[06:43] <pimpind> it didnt work
[06:43] <Oggy> sup
[06:43] <Oggy> really
[06:43] <Oggy> what happened?
[06:43] <pimpind> yea i dunno
[06:43] <Triclops> Whasa, it's a rip for longterm use
[06:44] <Triclops> Whasa, I wouldn't get it, but it would be a good starting pc
[06:44] <Triclops> DataBurst Cache?
[06:44] <Whasa> agreed
[06:44] <Triclops> ...
[06:44] <Triclops> who is that?
[06:44] <Oggy> whasa try again on those prices
[06:44] <Whasa> Anyone half decent with math, I need some help that would be greatly apprecia
[06:44] <pimpind> i need to find another program
[06:45] <Oggy> 100 for cpu?
[06:45] <Triclops> heh
[06:45] <Whasa> ive never paid over 70 for a cpu
[06:45] <rhelik> Whasa: just ask the channel
[06:45] <bassgoon> yeah...its getting annoying
[06:45] <bassgoon> atfq
[06:45] <bassgoon> ask the freakin question
[06:45] <bassgoon> lol
[06:45] <rhelik> Whasa: I try to pay around $130 for a CPU, but these new Core 2 Duos are so
[06:45] <Triclops> good think they didn't take out the "Just Ask"
[06:45] <Whasa> ive asked twice politely, once non conforimed, annoying isnt the word ..
[06:46] <Ansz> asked what?
[06:46] <dyNoMight> anyone know the vb code - to close a print preview window in access?
[06:46] <bassgoon> dude, don't ask to ask
[06:46] <Triclops> but you haven't actually asked th question
[06:46] <rhelik> Whasa: or if $175 is too much, I'd rather wait for it to come down, or the u
[06:46] <Ansz> prices, nvm
[06:46] <bassgoon> the topic clearly says, JUST ASK
[06:46] <Whasa> hey, this isnt a math related channel, odviously. Odviously I'd just ask .. I
[06:46] <bassgoon> no, now it says "Just Ask!"
[06:46] <Triclops> ...
[06:46] <Triclops> oh boy -_-
[06:46] * Whasa slaps bass_mac
[06:46] <bassgoon> no, the topic says "Just Ask!" that means, just ask
[06:46] <Whasa> wouldnt find my answers anyways I'm sure.
[06:46] <rhelik> Whasa: well I wasn't here when you asked the math problem, so stop whinning,
[06:47] <bassgoon> don't slap bass_mac, he has nothing to do with this
[06:47] <Triclops> lol
[06:47] <rhelik> what a little bitch
[06:47] <Triclops> the tab got him xd
[06:47] * bassgoon is now known as JustAsk
[06:47] <Triclops> heh
[06:47] * JustAsk is now known as Just_Ask
[06:47] * Just_Ask
[06:48] * Just_Ask is now known as bassgoon
[06:48] <Triclops> anyway
[06:48] <dyNoMight> anyone know the vb code to close a window?
[06:49] <Triclops> who the hell is databurst cache proprietary of?
[06:49] <cyberfrg> who?
[06:49] <OneLove> Good Morning
[06:49] <bassgoon> sunshie
[06:49] <bassgoon> sunshine
[06:49] <Triclops> yes, i.e. Seagate, WD, Maxtor, etc...
[06:49] <bassgoon> the earth says hello
[06:50] <Triclops> doesn't state a brand of hard drive
[06:50] <Triclops> 80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ [Included in Price
[06:51] <bassgoon> its dell brand
[06:51] <bassgoon> :p
[06:51] <Triclops> D:
[06:51] <Triclops> that explains it v_v
[06:52] <rhelik> Triclops: it's a bunch of marketing bs
[06:52] <Triclops> yeah
[06:52] <rhelik> Triclops: the only thing I suggest is to buy a good monitor, and definetly g
[06:52] <Oggy> whats a bunch of bs
[06:52] <Triclops> I know, but it was just wierd that there was no brand and there was a hd t
[06:53] <Triclops> I usually know about things before they come out
[06:53] <bassgoon> lol
[06:53] <Oggy> buying a core 2 duo now would be non productive right now
[06:53] <Triclops> yes
[06:53] <rhelik> hehe it's not in wikipedia nor in google
[06:53] <Triclops> yep
[06:53] <bassgoon> Oggy, how is that?
[06:53] <Triclops> nor in any major review site
[06:54] <Triclops> nor in any major retailer (in-store or online)
[06:54] <cyberfrg> Owner (APPLICANT) Dell Computer Coporation CORPORATION DELAWARE One Dell
[06:54] <cyberfrg> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=pqv7kc.2.1
[06:54] <Triclops> heh
[06:54] * Triclops bookmarks page
[06:55] <cyberfrg> it's also dead
[06:55] * Hastor bookmarks Triclops - in the face
[06:55] <Triclops> yeah...
[06:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[06:55] <Triclops> I think people should've learned their lesson with self-brand HDs with IBM
[06:55] <Triclops> * about self-brand
[06:55] <Hastor> people dont learn lessons!
[06:56] <Triclops> v_v
[06:56] <Triclops> DeathStar D:
[06:56] <Triclops> ™
[06:56] <deww> ibm did make good drives initially, but they weren't able to catch up with mor
[06:56] <Triclops> maybe, but I don't think catching up was their problem
[06:56] <Hastor> work in a movie theater for a few days, people havent even learned the lesso
[06:57] <deww> it was that plus they had too many other operations
[06:57] <Triclops> I saw one of those things catch on fire
[06:57] <Triclops> replaced tons of them with Seagates
[06:57] <Triclops> all dead
[06:58] <Triclops> but one thing I'll admit, IBM made the coolest dead hard drive songs of al
[06:58] <Hastor> i didnt know anyone made any hard drive songs
[06:58] <Triclops> well, people don't the hard drive themselves do
[06:59] <Triclops> sort of like, birds in the morning... woodpeckers
[07:00] <Rep0rter> can someone help me with google earth ?
[07:00] <Triclops> heh
[07:00] <Hastor> not if we dont know the prob
[07:00] <Triclops> funny
[07:00] * bassgoon is now known as Just_Ask
[07:00] * Just_Ask
[07:00] <Hastor> exactly
[07:00] <Triclops> http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/314x314/overlays/hd.gif
[07:00] <Triclops> that looks like a Seagate
[07:01] <Triclops> wonder if it's rebranded
[07:01] <AbbasJin> whats the formula of converstion from fahrenhite to degree celsius ..in fr
[07:01] <Hastor> just google it
[07:01] <AbbasJin> i've got this digital converter but i cant implement it in my programme
[07:01] <Rep0rter> Ok. I try to go to Isreal but its all blank like brown background
[07:02] <Triclops> http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm
[07:02] <books> Im having trouble with xp and my usb devices
[07:02] <Rep0rter> is there a way to adjust it ?
[07:02] <Hastor> thats what Isreal really looks like
[07:02] <books> Everytime I plug in my mp3 player (mpio) xp just reboots
[07:02] <Triclops> AbbasJin : http://www.csgnetwork.com/tempconvjava.html
[07:02] <books> is tehre a known issue with usb? Xp service pack 2
[07:02] <Rep0rter> well I'm trying to go to a specific area
[07:03] <Rep0rter> and also i type Washington,USA and search it and same Brown blackground ap
[07:03] <Oggy> only issue with usb and xp sp2 is with users who dont understand usb
[07:03] <Triclops> maybe those places have been removed for military reasons
[07:03] <books> ok so whats the problem then
[07:03] <rhelik> books: no, there's something wrong with your setup
[07:03] <Rep0rter> oh it can be
[07:03] <Hastor> yeah lota places going brown these days, giant brown tents
[07:03] <books> what do I need to do then?
[07:03] <deww> books: no. did you try another usb port? maybe a back or front port ?
[07:03] <rhelik> books: what usb are you using, onboard botherboard or a 3rd party card?
[07:03] <Triclops> maybe those places have been blown up and removed from the map
[07:03] <Oggy> just plug the usb device back in
[07:03] <books> onboard
[07:04] <Oggy> uplug it and plug it back in
[07:04] <Oggy> onboard yes and?
[07:04] <books> oggy, my computer just reboots everytime i do that
[07:04] <Triclops> just hope it isn't you rmotherboard
[07:04] <Triclops> lol
[07:04] <rhelik> books: I would definetly see if you can find a new mobo driver, or just the
[07:04] <Triclops> yep, sounds like motherboard
[07:04] <books> no, its not, the device does it on my laptop and my desktop
[07:04] * Just_Ask is now known as bassgoon
[07:04] <Triclops> ...
[07:04] <Triclops> then it's the device
[07:04] <Kor> I had problems with my USB stuff
[07:04] <Kor> usb HDD mainly
[07:04] <books> other devices work just fine
[07:04] <Triclops> ok
[07:04] <rhelik> books: that device is seriously screwed up then, what is it?
[07:04] <Kor> once I ran it through a hub, it was fine
[07:04] <Triclops> then it's the device
[07:04] <Triclops> falsh drive
[07:04] <Kor> a powered hub
[07:05] <Triclops> powered hubs are dangerous
[07:05] <books> kor, yes, that was what I read on the internet
[07:05] <AbbasJin> i need the classic mathematical formula
[07:05] <Kor> it was weird though, cause the HDD had it's own PSU
[07:05] <AbbasJin> it was 33/2
[07:05] <AbbasJin> or something like that
[07:05] <books> the power requirements were messed up, so if you plugged it into an externall
[07:05] <Triclops> I built a $2500 shuttle for a client
[07:05] <Kor> but still, it fixed it
[07:05] <books> but it doesnt
[07:05] <AbbasJin> c*35/2 .. ??
[07:05] <books> for me at least
[07:05] <Triclops> he killed it because he used an 8 port hub
[07:05] <rhelik> AbbasJin: there's only 1 correct formula
[07:06] <Triclops> AbbasJin : it's in the site I gave you
[07:06] <AbbasJin> what rhelik ..i remember using one i just forgot it
[07:06] <rhelik> c = (5/9) * (f-32);
[07:06] <Darrenww> ive been getting alot of annoyin adds for private messages.. is there a wa
[07:06] <AbbasJin> hmm ..cool ..i thought it was some applet there or something ..
[07:06] <rhelik> AbbasJin: then it was a sloppy & incorrect shortcut
[07:06] <AbbasJin> so gonna give it a try ...
[07:06] <AbbasJin> aah cool rhelik
[07:06] <rhelik> AbbasJin: you said you needed decimal values, therefore you need the exact &
[07:06] <Triclops> Tc = (5/9)*(Tf-32);
[07:07] <Triclops> Tf = (9/5)*Tc+32
[07:07] <AbbasJin> well ..the one rhelik an dtriclops gave is the one i needed thanks boys
[07:07] <Triclops> np
[07:07] <AbbasJin> i hope its OK now ..caz i've got 2% of my semester marks for this assignme
[07:07] <IRWolfie-> setting mode +i might help Darrenww
[07:07] <rhelik> the shortcut I use in my head is, I take F, subtract 40 and half it, I would
[07:08] <Triclops> heh
[07:08] <Darrenww> i have that set
[07:08] <IRWolfie-> are the bots that send you the pms on any channels you are on?
[07:08] <rhelik> Darrenww: google gmode as you can disable ALL pms via the irc server
[07:09] <Darrenww> yahh i did do that but that means i cant get em from the ppl i want .. i w
[07:10] <deww> you can add the people you want to talk to up to 20 at a time
[07:10] <Oggy> lol all this hardware just to run , fear ugg the maps are all small , it makes
[07:10] <Oggy> http://www.firingsquad.com/media/hirez.asp?file=/hardware/core_2_memory_tuning
[07:10] <Ansz> hi, how does that game name goes, IC Tower? something like that?
[07:10] * Darrenww cures the losers who do what they do :P
[07:10] <Darrenww> thanks
[07:11] <Oggy> no way Im happy with my little ol dual core rig with crappy 36 dollar video ca
[07:11] <Triclops> heh
[07:11] <Triclops> Dual Core Opterons are awesome
[07:12] <Rep0rter> Core 2 Duo is really Fast
[07:12] <Rep0rter> I've tried 1.8 Duo its awesome
[07:12] <rhelik> Triclops: Intel Core 2 Duo's are way faster
[07:12] <Triclops> yes
[07:12] <Triclops> but I spent a whole lot of money on my computer
[07:12] <Triclops> Core 2 is for new computers
[07:13] <Triclops> not worth the upgrade
[07:13] <rhelik> Triclops: true, as you need a diff mobo and memory
[07:13] <Triclops> yep
[07:14] <rhelik> despite, I'm still going to tell ppl that, it's time the AMD fanboys figure
[07:14] <Oggy> oh here we go
[07:14] <Oggy> rhelik and his intel romanticism
[07:14] <Rep0rter> DDR II and i dont remember the socket
[07:14] <Triclops> AM2
[07:14] <Oggy> oh im swwwwwooning rhelik
[07:14] <Triclops> for AMD
[07:15] <Triclops> but I have a duel core opteron running @ 2.8GHz DDR560 w/ 2 gigs of ram an
[07:15] <Triclops> I'm good ^_^
[07:15] <Oggy> awesome
[07:15] <Oggy> hehe
[07:16] * Oggy hi fives Triclops
[07:16] <Triclops> YAY for me!
[07:16] <Oggy> YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!
[07:16] <rhelik> how glutenous
[07:16] <Rep0rter> I'm still on p4 1.6 Ghz and i'm still happy
[07:16] <Rep0rter> :P
[07:16] <Triclops> I just wish I could trade my 74 raptors for 150 raptors
[07:16] <Rep0rter> 256 SD RAM
[07:17] <Oggy> raptors are nice
[07:17] <rhelik> Triclops: heck, considering how powerfull the Core 2 Duo is, it makes your s
[07:17] <Oggy> 150 or 74
[07:17] <Triclops> maybe
[07:18] <Oggy> Triclops drop your amd rig and buy a dual core rig
[07:18] <Oggy> NOT
[07:18] <Oggy> hehe
[07:18] <Triclops> heh
[07:18] <Triclops> that's what I'm trying to say
[07:18] <Triclops> Duo's are awesome CPUs, granted
[07:18] <Oggy> it takes a while for rhelik
[07:18] <Oggy> give him some time
[07:18] <Triclops> but not for people who already invested more than 4k on a computer
[07:18] <Oggy> exactly
[07:18] <Rep0rter> AMD is good for Gamers
[07:19] <Rep0rter> Atleast thats what i've heard
[07:19] <Rep0rter> i'm not a big gamer fan
[07:19] <Oggy> Rep0ter ive been trying to explain that for the last 2 hours
[07:19] <deww> it's gonna be the same thing
[07:19] <deww> if you alraedy have a nice rig before intel's stuff came out, no need to upgra
[07:19] <Triclops> unless... I can sell my mobo/cpu/memory
[07:19] <deww> otherwise if you're looking for a new setup go for the top of the line at the
[07:20] <Triclops> yep
[07:20] <deww> same with video cards
[07:20] <deww> why argue?
[07:20] <Oggy> intel is trying market on money thats already been spent
[07:20] <Oggy> they are to late
[07:20] <Triclops> yep
[07:20] <rhelik> Rep0rter: gamers preferred AMD because they were faster and cheaper.. now th
[07:20] <deww> won't stop me from using <brand> if i've been using it.
[07:20] <deww> 'cept now the only thing for me is that i wou;ldn't mind playing with a 64bit
[07:20] <rhelik> despite, I wouldn't upgrade a 2.8ghz AMD /w a dual core, waste of money
[07:20] <Rep0rter> I'm still gonna wait for a while for me.. Cause Intel keeps making this ne
[07:21] <Rep0rter> who knows Core 3 might be out soon
[07:21] <Rep0rter> :P
[07:21] <deww> core 2^2
[07:21] <rhelik> deww: well imho 64bit will be more mature (more so driver wise) with Vista,
[07:21] <Rep0rter> Ht wasnt that old now its almost obselete
[07:21] <deww> it'd be 8 logical cpus in one!
[07:21] <KarateBob> core 2 duo isnt cheaper
[07:21] <Oggy> if I go with another intel cpu , it has to have a new architecture
[07:21] <rhelik> Rep0rter: no, intel is just going to add cores for awhile, a 4 core comes ou
[07:21] <deww> that's hot
[07:22] <deww> SMP in one chip
[07:22] <KarateBob> and core 2 duo's lower ends arent significantly faster than amd's (cheape
[07:22] <rhelik> KarateBob: at the equivilant speed, it is
[07:22] * deww looks at his old pcs
[07:22] <KarateBob> at equivilant clock speed, yes, but not at equivlant prices
[07:22] <rhelik> KarateBob: no screw clock, I mean benchmarks
[07:22] <rhelik> KarateBob: if you can't paste a benchmark, we have nothing to discuss
[07:22] <KarateBob> im talking about same price ranges
[07:22] <Oggy> paying for a core 2 duo is a waste
[07:22] <Oggy> unless they come out with a new arch
[07:22] <KarateBob> amd's $200 chip is faster than intels $200 chip
[07:22] <Rep0rter> I hope they make the socket similar now even if they make a new Processor
[07:23] <KarateBob> Rep0rter: intel sucks at processor socket compatibility
[07:23] <KarateBob> Rep0rter: you can physically put a core2duo in an older i915 based machin
[07:24] <rhelik> KarateBob: less talk, more proof
[07:24] <KarateBob> i bet when intels quad core comes out, only a few current core2duo mobos
[07:24] <rhelik> KarateBob: heh, maybe the quad core will use so much wattage, you'll be able
[07:24] <Rep0rter> when will this come out ?
[07:25] <KarateBob> http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/e6300-vs-sff/ut2004.gif
[07:25] <KarateBob> heh, thatd be cool
[07:25] <KarateBob> Rep0rter: quad core is scheduled for 4Q06
[07:25] <rhelik> KarateBob: we're in the 4Q now :)
[07:25] <KarateBob> amd's x2 4200+ costs the same as the e6300
[07:25] <KarateBob> rhelik: and?
[07:26] <KarateBob> also, mobos for amd's x2 4200+ cost significantly less than ones for the
[07:26] <Oggy> bah we can get into intel's 32 cores , doesnt matter , core 2 dual is to late
[07:26] <Oggy> for all gamers
[07:26] <rhelik> KarateBob: looking at the graph, I'm assuming the Core 2 1.86 is the 6300 or
[07:27] <rhelik> oh n/m, I can't read :)
[07:27] <rhelik> so the 1.86 is the 6400 then
[07:27] <rhelik> well according to this graph, the 6300 and the 3800+ are dead even
[07:27] <rhelik> considering the Core 2 uses substantially less power, in my books, it makes
[07:28] <AbbasJin> can someone verify this
[07:28] <Triclops> a huge percentage of IRC users game, I really doubt CPU companies structre
[07:28] <Rep0rter> the Older Dual Core were so noisy
[07:28] <AbbasJin> before iput these formulas in my programme
[07:28] <Rep0rter> that was a bad time for Intel
[07:28] <AbbasJin> circumference of a circle is >> 2 PIE r
[07:28] <AbbasJin> area of a circle >> PIE r^2
[07:29] <Oggy> yeah when intel puts an onboard memory controller on their cpus , thats when I
[07:29] <all2human> hey how can i evade a ban on #Philosophy
[07:29] <Oggy> ban evading ?
[07:29] <AbbasJin> by acting liek buddha :)
[07:29] <Triclops> intel is still a waste of money
[07:29] <AbbasJin> INTEL is da best :P
[07:29] <rhelik> KarateBob: by your own benchmark you're proven wrong, as if you look at a mo
[07:30] <Rep0rter> bbl
[07:30] <Oggy> right now yes , but if they come out with a new architecture it may be somethi
[07:30] <rhelik> 10% better
[07:30] <KarateBob> [07:27] <rhelik> considering the Core 2 uses substantially less pow
[07:30] <KarateBob> wtf?
[07:30] <Oggy> remember prescott and their 31 pipes
[07:30] <KarateBob> http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/e6300-vs-sff/power-idle.gif
[07:30] <Oggy> they brang it down to 14 ?
[07:30] <KarateBob> significantly?
[07:30] <Oggy> or so cant remember
[07:30] <deww> all2human: you won't get help evading bans. you shouldn't. it would only upset
[07:30] <KarateBob> looks like the 3800+ ee is drawing less power
[07:30] <rhelik> wait, I thought the Core 2's idle at 65w
[07:31] <KarateBob> whats core2's load temp
[07:31] <KarateBob> err, load draw
[07:31] <rhelik> yea, we need to find a solid source for idle & full load watt usage
[07:31] <deww> fanboy fight
[07:32] <Triclops> w00t
[07:32] <rhelik> considering the Core 2 is at a substantially lesser ghz and smaller nm, it h
[07:32] <Oggy> lol
[07:32] <Oggy> haha
[07:32] <all2human> i will pay for an irc ban evasion program
[07:32] <Triclops> ...
[07:32] <Oggy> intel romanticising
[07:33] <all2human> sell me one. thanks
[07:33] <deww> all2human: they're called bncs and you look for shell providers for that.
[07:33] <rhelik> all2human: I cane give one for you for free
[07:33] <rhelik> it's called: stop making an ass out of yourself, and you won't get banned te
[07:33] <all2human> deww: is there one that makes the whole process simple?
[07:33] <Triclops> I think that technology is dead
[07:33] <Jim_> umm
[07:34] <Oggy> doh! rhelik that wasnt helpful at all
[07:34] <Jim_> 3800 is single core right?
[07:34] <rhelik> Jim_: iirc there is a single and dual core version of the 3800
[07:34] <Oggy> 3800+ is dual core
[07:34] <Oggy> goodness
[07:34] <Jim_> which one are you refering to?
[07:34] <deww> all2human: most legitimate services will give you all the support you need.
[07:34] <rhelik> Jim_: dual core of course
[07:34] <Oggy> with a nice 2.7 overclock at default voltage
[07:34] <Jim_> okay,
[07:35] <Triclops> rhelik : http://tinyurl.com/h23ju
[07:35] <AbbasJin> hey rhelik ..u there?
[07:35] <Triclops> the trademark is dead
[07:35] <matnation> i have a network setup at home.....anyone know why i can connect from my
[07:35] <Jim_> I just joined partway through the convo, I was going to say if it was single t
[07:35] <rhelik> yup
[07:36] <Triclops> ...
[07:36] <Triclops> you don't say Jim
[07:36] <rhelik> Triclops: it's patent pending
[07:36] <Triclops> xD
[07:36] <rhelik> matnation: your Router's port forwarding is not setup
[07:36] <Triclops> anyh00t
[07:36] <AbbasJin> rhelik: I need a good name for this algorithm i am writing .. good name al
[07:36] <AbbasJin> the algorithm calculate %age of a student's marks
[07:36] <Triclops> anyone know a good parental control program?
[07:37] <AbbasJin> adn depending on that .. it either passes the student or specifies him as
[07:37] <AbbasJin> so what should the name be
[07:37] <Jim_> Triclops: I'm not going to start another rant as I may have done so in this ch
[07:37] <AbbasJin> in 3 words
[07:37] <AbbasJin> avg-pass-or-fail? ..
[07:37] <Triclops> ...
[07:37] <AbbasJin> something like that
[07:37] <Triclops> Jim, I was being sarcastic
[07:38] <Triclops> Jim, but really... dual-core is better than single-core is like, no friggi
[07:39] <deww> hmm. $35 for a dvd writer shipped in 2 days? or $50 for a dvd rom + cdwriter i
[07:39] <Triclops> ooh!
[07:39] <Triclops> definitely the rom!
[07:39] <Triclops> xD
[07:39] <deww> that was the choice my gf's sister had to make. i tried to convince her i'll o
[07:39] <Jim_> the only thing that could make you seem like more of a moron then if that stat
[07:40] <bizinichi> how do i see all the user accounts and passwords on my computer and get r
[07:40] <deww> Jim_: it's irc. morons are rampant. i admit to being one myself.
[07:40] <deww> bizinichi: what os?
[07:40] <Jim_> lol
[07:40] <bizinichi> win xp home
[07:40] <deww> does that have computer management?
[07:40] <bizinichi> what is that?
[07:41] <deww> start, run, compmgmt.msc , click on OK
[07:41] <deww> dont delete EVERTHING
[07:41] <deww> just ones you created
[07:41] <bizinichi> yeah but theres nothing about user accounts in compmgmt.msc
[07:41] <all2human> who's got the cheapest dual core systems out there
[07:41] <all2human> i want one
[07:41] <Triclops> you come in at the end of a conversation and say "dual core is better than
[07:41] <Triclops> pfft
[07:41] <deww> bizinichi: local users and groups, do you see that?
[07:42] <Triclops> oh
[07:42] <bizinichi> no, i dont htink that option is supposed to be in xp home, only xp pro
[07:42] <deww> bizinichi: i never used xp home, only pro, so home is probably different
[07:42] <deww> damn
[07:42] <bizinichi> exactly
[07:42] <belter> not by mutch
[07:42] <deww> control panel -> users perhaps
[07:42] <bizinichi> thats why im confused about getting rid of accounts.
[07:42] <belter> home doesn't network well
[07:43] <Jim_> Triclops: if you want to flame keep it out of the channel it doesn't #help any
[07:43] <bizinichi> what about the administrator account... is that deletable? so that only m
[07:43] <Triclops> you call me a moron and I"m the one flaming
[07:44] <deww> you two are flaming. quit flaming.
[07:44] <Triclops> what are you going to tell me next Jim, that dual channel memory is defini
[07:44] <bizinichi> besides, i cant see the builtin administrator account in control panel -&
[07:44] <Triclops> anyway, I'm done
[07:44] <xtrode> are devilled eggs any good if you use sweet honey mustard?
[07:44] <deww> bizinichi: no. you want at least two admin accounts in xp. :P
[07:44] <deww> xtrode: no.
[07:44] <bizinichi> deww: why is that?
[07:44] <deww> bizinichi: people ALWAYS screw up the one they always use
[07:44] <bizinichi> deww: im the only one using this comuputer
[07:45] <deww> bizinichi: it would be your backup account
[07:45] <bizinichi> :/
[07:45] <bizinichi> ive got an image backup instead
[07:45] <eBeavis> hai gang
[07:45] <bizinichi> so theres no way i can get rid of extra accounts?
[07:45] <bizinichi> (besides the ones i see in control panel-> users)
[07:47] <deww> i am used to the computer management method
[07:47] <bizinichi> me too
[07:48] <deww> or active directory D
[07:48] <deww> :D
[07:48] <antisane_> help! is it possible to sort words by alphabetical order in msword ?
[07:48] <deww> i know you cna if it's in a excel spreadsheet
[07:48] <xtrode> that's the most insane method of word sorting ever conceived! surely it can
[07:49] <antisane_> hrmm looking for a good method to put my movie list into a nice table heh
[07:50] <antisane_> but it gets complicated once you wanne add a new movie.. then resorting e
[07:50] <antisane_> maybe sql is the way to go ? o_O
[07:53] <rhelik> antisane_: yea, Access will do it fine
[07:53] <antisane_> is it simple for first time user ?
[07:53] <rhelik> sometimes I wonder if Excel would have been better off if you could never so
[07:53] <rhelik> antisane_: I would download Access 2007, it's in beta but it's extremely eas
[07:54] <rhelik> in includes so many templates, they probably have a build in music/movie dat
[07:54] <belter> they even send you a beta product key in your inbox
[07:54] <rhelik> grr, my Access 2007 is missing a DLL, I can't check
[07:55] <antisane_> my web hosting has this database feature i'm checking it out
[07:55] <rhelik> yup, there is a Movie collection template, http://office.microsoft.com/en-u
[07:55] * Osc changes topic to 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/
[07:56] <menkio> nayone know why this happens
[07:56] <menkio> [10:53] * [10053] Software caused connection abort
[07:56] <menkio> its rather annoying
[07:56] <menkio> and only happens on mirc, not xchat or bitchx
[07:57] * Disconnected
Session Close: Fri Sep 15 07:57:06 2006