Session Start: Wed Sep 13 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #help
[00:01] <irwinz> If "a" is alone in the middle of a sentence it's lower case, correct?
[00:02] <irwinz> Example: That is a dog.
[00:02] <n909> true
[00:02] <n909> unless it's a proper noun
[00:02] <irwinz> Alright, just making sure :)
[00:02] <WhiteDeth> yes
[00:02] <irwinz> Is it the same with "at" and "with"?
[00:02] <KarateBob> yup
[00:03] <WhiteDeth> yes
[00:03] <n909> special exceptions for titles too
[00:03] <KarateBob> you only capitalize I in the middle of sentences
[00:03] <WhiteDeth> yeah.
[00:03] <irwinz> Cool, also just making sure :P
[00:03] <irwinz> Yeah, I'm editing all my music tags
[00:03] <n909> hah
[00:03] <KarateBob> :/
[00:03] <n909> that is a song title
[00:03] <irwinz> I'm searching iTunes for " a " <--- with spaces, and " the " and all that
[00:03] <irwinz> I'm a neat freak :P
[00:04] <irwinz> I thought that rule also applied to song titles? Example song: "Like a Fox"
[00:04] <KarateBob> umm
[00:04] <KarateBob> if all words are capitalized
[00:04] <irwinz> "Like A Fox" looks grammatically incorrect.
[00:04] <Dr-Lol> i tunes ignores the and a
[00:04] <KarateBob> then a might be capitlizied too
[00:05] <WhiteDeth> some people are used to typing "Like A Fox Can Sing"
[00:05] <WhiteDeth> but they're idiots.
[00:05] <WhiteDeth> technically, it's "Like a fox can sing"
[00:05] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: I know, I'm just a perfectionest and want my music library to be per
[00:05] <WhiteDeth> they capitalize the letters because there isnt a period at the end, and t
[00:05] <WhiteDeth> which for some reason gives them the..."right"...to capitalize words and
[00:05] <Dr-Lol> irwinz, itunes isnt perfect by any means
[00:05] <irwinz> WhiteDeth: Wait, it's like that in song titles?
[00:05] <WhiteDeth> anarchy, it is.
[00:06] <WhiteDeth> irwinz: Dont know about legal music ;)
[00:06] <Dr-Lol> a are only capital if its the first letter
[00:06] <irwinz> WhiteDeth: A song title would be like Elvis Presley - Like a fox?
[00:06] <irwinz> not Elvis Presley - Like a Fox?
[00:06] <InVentAgn> the ipod is here to stay eh ?
[00:06] <WhiteDeth> that is how it SHOULD be. The former.
[00:06] <KarateBob> ipod was here to stay 3 years ago
[00:06] <irwinz> Like a Fox?
[00:06] <WhiteDeth> but people tend to type "Elvis Presley - Like A Fox"
[00:06] <Dr-Lol> fox would be capital in a taitle
[00:06] <WhiteDeth> I dunno, I disagree.
[00:06] <irwinz> Yeah, I thought all like major words are supposed to be capitalized.
[00:07] <WhiteDeth> but im not english, listen to Dr-lol, he seems to have mastered the engli
[00:07] <WhiteDeth> ;)
[00:07] <irwinz> At least that's how I was taught in grade school
[00:07] <Dr-Lol> irwinz, your right, so was I
[00:07] <Dr-Lol> you're
[00:07] <WhiteDeth> *you're
[00:07] <WhiteDeth> :D
[00:08] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: :P
[00:08] <WhiteDeth> self-own :P
[00:08] * Dr-Lol is lazy on the keyboard
[00:08] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: that rule also applies to "is" right?
[00:08] <Dr-Lol> a and the
[00:08] <Dr-Lol> not sure about is
[00:08] <eBeavis> PWNAGE
[00:08] <irwinz> "Like a Fox Is Cool" looks weird
[00:08] <WhiteDeth> no
[00:08] <irwinz> "Like a Fox is Cool" looks good :P
[00:08] <Dr-Lol> http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=E2%20FAQ%3A%20Capitalization%20in%20nod
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> that looks weird too.
[00:09] <irwinz> wait, Is might be capitalized
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> now...Like a fox is cool
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> see
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> how good is that.
[00:09] <irwinz> WhiteDeth: Not good at all according to the english language :D
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> Like a fox is cool. <<< PERIOD.
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> there
[00:09] <WhiteDeth> better?
[00:09] <irwinz> WhiteDeth: Nope.
[00:10] <WhiteDeth> naw, im stupid. I've no mastery of grammatical English.
[00:10] <WhiteDeth> I'll spell your ass to oblivion though.
[00:10] <WhiteDeth> ;)
[00:10] <eBeavis> omg grammar police
[00:10] <eBeavis> brb :p
[00:10] <Sven11> ok, I would like to confirm that windows crash as soon as I activate windows
[00:10] <Sven11> This happens since today
[00:10] <Dr-Lol> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(titles)#Capital
[00:10] <Sven11> I don't know what is the new patch
[00:11] <Dr-Lol> Always capitalize the first and last word in a title. Capitalize all the oth
[00:11] <coolwade> is sex overrated?
[00:11] <WhiteDeth> coolwade: Noooooooooo.
[00:11] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: and conjunctions and prepositions of four letters or fewer
[00:12] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: that would include is, right? :D
[00:12] <coolwade> wont you get tired of same ol sex?
[00:12] <eBeavis> coolwade, use your imagination
[00:12] <irwinz> coolwade: Yep, that's why marriage is overrated.
[00:12] <irwinz> ;)
[00:12] <Dr-Lol> i prefer the opposite sex
[00:12] <eBeavis> you could involve all sorts of toys, goats, etc
[00:12] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: I think he meant same rutine of sex, not gender, haha
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> coolwade: Many ways to make it interesting.
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> you're asking on IRC, not a good place to ask this question.
[00:13] <eBeavis> omg stereotype
[00:13] * Dr-Lol has been married over 5 years, and the sex is still very good
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> omg you're stupid
[00:13] <eBeavis> omg omg
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> omg
[00:13] <eBeavis> :p
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> we're gonna get kicked.
[00:13] <KarateBob> omg wtf omg
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> :)
[00:13] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: so is isn't capitalized?
[00:13] <eBeavis> i know lol
[00:13] <coolwade> if IRC is not a good place to ask, where should i go to ask this question?
[00:13] <WhiteDeth> most "omg"s ever said in here.
[00:14] <eBeavis> hahaha
[00:14] <WhiteDeth> coolwade: Probably still better than here.
[00:14] <irwinz> coolwade: therapist? ;o
[00:14] <WhiteDeth> but I like your attempt at trying to be funny.
[00:14] <WhiteDeth> 5 points to you.
[00:14] <eBeavis> dr ruth
[00:14] <Dr-Lol> irwinz correct
[00:14] <WhiteDeth> try your SO.
[00:14] <WhiteDeth> ask her :P
[00:14] <WhiteDeth> or him
[00:14] <coolwade> therapist costs money
[00:14] <coolwade> i aint going to therapist just to ask him, is sex overated
[00:14] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: gotcha, what about you? ex: "Hey you Big Guy"?
[00:15] <sunpac> you should ask yourself that question. i personally think its the partner th
[00:15] <Dr-Lol> you isnt a concuntion or a prep
[00:15] <Dr-Lol> conjunction
[00:15] <coolwade> what if your partner is fat and ugly
[00:15] <coolwade> is sex overrated?
[00:15] <Enc0re> anyone in need of some ram?
[00:15] <Dr-Lol> coolwade, no, but your intelligence is
[00:15] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: oh, alright
[00:16] <undrdaw1> all good here i just ordered a few hundred sticks :)
[00:16] <coolwade> sometimes, i feel like i rather fuck a dog than a fat and ugly partner
[00:16] <coolwade> am i normal?
[00:16] <Dr-Lol> your a tard
[00:16] <Dr-Lol> you're
[00:16] <coolwade> how do you all deal with your fat and ugly partner
[00:16] <WhiteDeth> lol!
[00:17] * Dr-Lol reminds hes a lazy typist
[00:17] <KarateBob> lol you married a fat bitch?
[00:17] <coolwade> hell yea
[00:17] <KarateBob> sad
[00:17] <KarateBob> does she at least give good head?
[00:17] <coolwade> why is it sad
[00:17] <coolwade> not really
[00:17] <KarateBob> :
[00:17] <KarateBob> :(
[00:17] <KarateBob> i heard fat chicks like sucking cock cause theyre hungry
[00:17] <coolwade> it got boring
[00:17] <KarateBob> dump that ho
[00:17] <WhiteDeth> lol.
[00:17] <KarateBob> get a new one
[00:18] <coolwade> i already have 3 kids
[00:18] <KarateBob> how old are tehy
[00:18] <coolwade> oldest is 4
[00:18] <coolwade> turning 5
[00:18] <KarateBob> sad
[00:18] <coolwade> is your life any better than mine?
[00:18] <KarateBob> yeah
[00:18] <coolwade> do you have a hot gf?
[00:18] <KarateBob> i got a fun job, a nice car, and very little responsibility
[00:19] <KarateBob> nope, but i got 350gb of porn
[00:19] <KarateBob> i dont need a gf to have a good life
[00:19] <coolwade> i wish i can trade my life with yours
[00:19] <KarateBob> try using toys during sex
[00:19] <WhiteDeth> no
[00:19] <WhiteDeth> toys = teh gay.
[00:19] <KarateBob> or invite other women/men into hte bedroom to spice it up
[00:19] <KarateBob> lol
[00:19] <WhiteDeth> NO.
[00:19] <WhiteDeth> stop listening to this guy
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> what're you Kbob? 17?
[00:20] <KarateBob> shut it before i ban you
[00:20] <coolwade> toys makes me get bored
[00:20] <coolwade> i want fleshy pleasure
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> sounds like every 17 year old's fantasy.
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> lol
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> okay
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> he sounds 17 too.
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> go for it Kbob :P
[00:20] * _zok is now known as zok`
[00:20] <KarateBob> get cyberskin toys
[00:20] <KarateBob> or another chick
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> may I recommend Japanese toys.
[00:20] <coolwade> i wanna cheat on my wife
[00:20] <WhiteDeth> they're...well they dont get any better than that.
[00:20] <KarateBob> lol
[00:20] <coolwade> thats the conclusion i came to
[00:20] <KarateBob> what would cheating prove?
[00:21] <coolwade> that i can have as many as poosies as i want
[00:21] <KarateBob> [00:17] <WhiteDeth> toys = teh gay.
[00:21] <KarateBob> [00:18] <WhiteDeth> may I recommend Japanese toys.
[00:21] <KarateBob> what a difference a minute makes
[00:21] <WhiteDeth> hey
[00:21] <WhiteDeth> I didnt know how mature he was earlier.
[00:21] <WhiteDeth> I was tryin to save a relationship.
[00:21] <WhiteDeth> now im humouring myself.
[00:21] <KarateBob> what
[00:21] <WhiteDeth> toys buddy, go for toys.
[00:21] <KarateBob> how old are you WhiteDeth
[00:21] <WhiteDeth> 26
[00:21] <coolwade> why is cheating wrong
[00:21] <irwinz> Dr-Lol: what about band names? ex: Pedro the Lion -or- Pedro The Lion?
[00:21] <coolwade> give me a good reason why i shouldnt cheat
[00:22] <KarateBob> ever hear of ethics?
[00:22] <undrdaw1> what would sex be like without the 4HP deisel remote controlled, ribbed, v
[00:22] <WhiteDeth> and I just ended a 10years, 3 month relationship with my ex fiance. Trust
[00:22] <KarateBob> heh diesel
[00:22] <KarateBob> how long were you engaged
[00:22] <WhiteDeth> me?
[00:22] <KarateBob> no, undrdaw1
[00:22] <WhiteDeth> oh
[00:22] <KarateBob> to his gaspowered engine
[00:22] <KarateBob> yes, you
[00:23] <KarateBob> who else was talking about engagement?
[00:23] <WhiteDeth> lol.
[00:23] <WhiteDeth> uhh...
[00:23] <WhiteDeth> 2 years 3 months
[00:23] <KarateBob> wow
[00:23] <WhiteDeth> what?
[00:23] <KarateBob> you were together for that long and didnt get married?
[00:23] <WhiteDeth> marriage date was for next year, same day we met 10 years ago. We even ha
[00:23] <KarateBob> heh
[00:24] <WhiteDeth> naw, collecting up funds, it was gonna be super flashy. :)
[00:24] <WhiteDeth> she wanted white doves (100 I think?) and shit like that.
[00:24] <WhiteDeth> that shit dont come cheap.
[00:24] <KarateBob> sad
[00:24] <KarateBob> tell her dad to pay for it
[00:24] <WhiteDeth> im richer than her did.
[00:24] <WhiteDeth> *dad
[00:24] <WhiteDeth> by miles :\
[00:24] <KarateBob> tell her dad to get a better job
[00:24] <KarateBob> and pay for it
[00:25] <WhiteDeth> ...
[00:25] <WhiteDeth> it's over.
[00:25] <WhiteDeth> her dad can go marry her now.
[00:25] <WhiteDeth> I couldnt care less.
[00:25] <WhiteDeth> actually I want her back real bad
[00:25] <WhiteDeth> but dont tell anyone.
[00:25] <KarateBob> lol
[00:25] <undrdaw1> does ebay automatically charge your bank account as soon as you list?
[00:25] <KarateBob> didnt you send her an email or something
[00:25] <undrdaw1> or will it wait until its over?
[00:26] <WhiteDeth> KarateBob: I have a restraining order out against her. That sum it up? :)
[00:26] <undrdaw1> i just listed basically as much as i could
[00:26] <KarateBob> not really
[00:26] <undrdaw1> wondering if i should say screw it and overdraw my bank for a day
[00:26] <KarateBob> was she stalking you?
[00:26] <Star_Fire> KB, WD: take the conversation somewhere else.
[00:26] <KarateBob> why/ theres nobody else talking
[00:26] <KarateBob> its a dead period
[00:26] <undrdaw1> i was talking :P
[00:27] <KarateBob> other ops allow idle chat during lenghts of time without people needing h
[00:27] <WhiteDeth> she turned all immature on me after an argument and ran. Like, literally,
[00:27] <KarateBob> heh
[00:27] <KarateBob> you realized she was immature after 10 years
[00:27] <WhiteDeth> she turned immature for the first time after 10 years.
[00:27] <KarateBob> hadnt you ever had a fight before
[00:27] <WhiteDeth> it took her ten years to give it to me? Fine.
[00:27] <WhiteDeth> naw, that was big.
[00:27] <WhiteDeth> course we haev.
[00:27] <WhiteDeth> but still, you dont fucking run.
[00:28] <WhiteDeth> little prick ran. And ignored me, made sure I had no contact.
[00:28] <KarateBob> for how long?
[00:28] <WhiteDeth> now...wonder what'll happen if she turns out to be preggo :)
[00:28] <WhiteDeth> "I gotta meet the father though!?" - "sorry ma'am, restraining order says
[00:28] <Star_Fire> undr: I haven't used paypal myself, but my old boss did. from What I f
[00:28] <KarateBob> Star_Fire: hes talking about listing an auction
[00:28] <WhiteDeth> 6 months, extendable depending on if she tries to contact me after :)
[00:28] <KarateBob> wtf...?
[00:28] <Anthraxus> Dude why'd you drop her?
[00:28] <Anthraxus> lol
[00:29] <KarateBob> shes immature
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> Im giving her what she wanted.
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> she wanted "space"?
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> fine.
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> take space bitch.
[00:29] <KarateBob> lol
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> I dont take that shit.
[00:29] <Anthraxus> Space... oh fuck that
[00:29] <KarateBob> find a rebound girl
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> You want some "space"?
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> fine, TELL me about it bitch. THEN take space.
[00:29] <Anthraxus> a sign for... I wanna think about some other potential dudes from the pas
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> but just randomly running away - fuck you.
[00:29] <Anthraxus> Screw that
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> maw Anthraxus: I was her first.
[00:29] <WhiteDeth> we been together for 10 years.
[00:30] <WhiteDeth> she was 19, me 16.
[00:30] <Anthraxus> Then she's all about some other mofos she's met during the years
[00:30] <Anthraxus> heh
[00:30] <WhiteDeth> never been with a gu before, and insanely in love with me.
[00:30] <KarateBob> had you guys had sex with anyone else?
[00:30] <WhiteDeth> well, whatever.
[00:30] <WhiteDeth> nope
[00:30] <Anthraxus> Don't sound like it to meh... good luck
[00:30] <KarateBob> sad
[00:30] <Anthraxus> Yeah, you need to have sex w/ other folks before you commit man
[00:30] <Anthraxus> you KNOW this maaan!
[00:31] <KarateBob> yup
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> ...
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> no
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> I hate one night stands
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> and I love being committed.
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> fuck, I LOVED calling her my fiancee, best feeling in the world.
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> I dunno, each to his own.
[00:31] <WhiteDeth> you're a manwhore, im not. :)
[00:31] <Anthraxus> Heh... like I said... driving 1 car your whole life, and nothing else = u
[00:32] <Anthraxus> manwhore?
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> cars and women?
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> nice analogy.
[00:32] <Anthraxus> Yep
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> you cant compare a woman with anything.
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> period.
[00:32] <Anthraxus> Sure ya can
[00:32] <Anthraxus> It's like getting a job.
[00:32] <Anthraxus> Put in a resume.
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> no its not.
[00:32] <Anthraxus> Interview
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> its like nothing.
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> maybe for manwhoes.
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> *...
[00:32] <Anthraxus> Compete with others who want the position
[00:32] <WhiteDeth> actually, looks better spelt like that.
[00:33] <Anthraxus> Get a temp spot to hire full time
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> I competed with no one.
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> she wanted me, I wanted her.
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> we got what we wanted.
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> the end.
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> er...and then we left.
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> :P
[00:33] <Anthraxus> Get hired full time and get underpaid, overworked, little benefits, and e
[00:33] <Anthraxus> haha
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> dude?
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> did you read what I wrote?
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> I loved her
[00:33] <WhiteDeth> loved being with her
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> best cook on the planet, EVER, amazing sex, she was beautiful, and she wo
[00:34] <Anthraxus> You loved her and now you're completely un-in-love w/ her? riiight.
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> no
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> did you read?
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> where I said I actually want her back?
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> hell, I know we'll get back a few months from now when I break down and c
[00:34] <Anthraxus> you said loved... meaning past tense.
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> but till then, she needs to learn her lesson.
[00:34] <Anthraxus> Bah... you're playing with fire.
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> and this is my way to teach her. She be immaturish, fine, ill stoop down
[00:34] <WhiteDeth> I dont mind.
[00:35] <Anthraxus> bah good luck
[00:35] <WhiteDeth> cheers :)
[00:36] <WhiteDeth> im finding it pretty hard though..
[00:36] <WhiteDeth> I dont know JACK about cooking.
[00:36] <WhiteDeth> dude honestly, ask Kbob, almost ate something funky this morning.
[00:36] <WhiteDeth> and he egged me on to it :\
[00:36] <KarateBob> heh
[00:36] <KarateBob> chicken pie or something?
[00:36] <WhiteDeth> YES YOU
[00:36] <WhiteDeth> yeah
[00:37] <WhiteDeth> man seriously funky
[00:37] <KarateBob> you shoulda finished it
[00:37] <WhiteDeth> tasted like chemical.
[00:37] <WhiteDeth> no?
[00:37] <WhiteDeth> wait wait wait...
[00:37] <WhiteDeth> NO.
[00:38] <WhiteDeth> another thing
[00:38] <WhiteDeth> did my laundry for the first time this morning.
[00:38] <WhiteDeth> WTF. Washing machines are COMPLETELY automatic today. Awesome "wtf" look
[00:39] <mt_r1haj> Welcome to the year 2006!
[00:39] <WhiteDeth> yeah man. insane.
[00:39] <mt_r1haj> Hehe
[00:40] <WhiteDeth> another mission im not looking forward to - putting new button on my shir
[00:40] <WhiteDeth> im leaving that for later...I can do without that shirt for a while :|
[00:42] <Humbert> there are two accounts on my WinXP machine and each has its own iTunes, eac
[00:42] <Humbert> Is there any way I can update Account A's ipod just by switching user, not
[00:45] <mt_r1haj> I doubt that
[00:48] <JPres> are you making sure you have closed itunes on account B before you switch to
[00:56] <eBeavis> completely automatic washing device?
[00:56] <eBeavis> shinanagins
[01:00] <Insomn1a> got a problem cant see to ping my XBOX360 from my VIRTUAL PC, the xboxlive
[01:01] <KarateBob> whats the virtualpc's ip/gateway
[01:02] <Insomn1a> vpc ip is 192.168.0.8
[01:02] <Insomn1a> gateway is the same 192.168.0.1
[01:02] <KarateBob> are you using a router or a crossover cable
[01:02] <Insomn1a> router
[01:02] <KarateBob> oh
[01:02] <KarateBob> is the xbox set to respond to icmp requests
[01:02] <Insomn1a> im using virtual because i wanna get it working with windows media center
[01:03] <Insomn1a> not sure
[01:03] <KarateBob> ya, thats what i figured
[01:03] <KarateBob> if you nmap it, i think theres 1 port thats open
[01:03] <Insomn1a> but when i tried to install the program transcode it counlt find the xbox
[01:03] <Insomn1a> nmap ?
[01:03] <KarateBob> hmmm
[01:03] <KarateBob> do you have windows media connect installed
[01:03] <Insomn1a> yeh
[01:04] <irwinz> anybody know how to get album art to automatically show up on my iPod? i hav
[01:04] <Insomn1a> in devices there i see nothin
[01:06] <WhiteDeth> if my ISP says that they "run a news server" - does that mean I have news
[01:06] <Insomn1a> KarateBob :~
[01:07] <KarateBob> WhiteDeth: yup
[01:07] <WhiteDeth> what's a good newsgroup client?
[01:07] <KarateBob> i use grabit, its free and easy
[01:07] <eBeavis> bob, do you want to be my karate sparring partner?
[01:07] <WhiteDeth> sweet :D Party at my house!
[01:07] <Insomn1a> nmap ??
[01:07] <WhiteDeth> sweet cheers
[01:07] <KarateBob> eBeavis: nope, i dont practice karate
[01:08] <Insomn1a> no clue karate?
[01:08] <Insomn1a> inet works on xbox also
[01:09] <KarateBob> do you have windows media connect installed
[01:09] <Insomn1a> yes i do
[01:09] <KarateBob> oh
[01:09] <KarateBob> did you set the xbox360 to search for computers
[01:09] <Star_Fire> KB: I used to use Forte's Agent for newsgroup access. and use NewsLeeche
[01:09] <Insomn1a> hm nop
[01:09] <irwinz> anybody bought one of the new iPod videos recently?
[01:09] <KarateBob> try that
[01:09] <ASk> WhiteDeth: yes, you do, but the quality of it is probably less than stellar.
[01:09] <Insomn1a> in windows media connect devices there is nothin listed
[01:09] <Insomn1a> i do that on the xbox somehow?
[01:09] <ASk> if you, like most people, look for binaries, you probably shouldn't bother
[01:10] <KarateBob> yes on the xbox
[01:10] <Insomn1a> oki let me c
[01:11] <Star_Fire> ugh... prev post was to whitedeth... not KB
[01:12] <KarateBob> :P
[01:12] <KarateBob> i like forte's interface
[01:12] <KarateBob> is that thing still updated?
[01:12] <Star_Fire> KB: no idea... I haven't bothered to look. what I got works fine enough
[01:14] <Insomn1a> KB cant find nothin on the xb
[01:14] <Insomn1a> it mentioned somethin about allowing some ports though
[01:17] <KarateBob> idk about ports
[01:17] <Insomn1a> ok
[01:21] <dressiy> is there a way to save you keys (settings) when you move media player class
[01:21] <dressiy> its annoying to keep setting that over and over
[01:31] <MoGL_Y> hello
[01:36] <dressiy> is there a way to save you keys (settings) when you move media player class
[01:36] <dressiy> its annoying to keep setting that over and over
[01:37] <MoGL_Y> hello dressiy
[01:38] <dressiy> hi
[01:38] <MoGL_Y> i don't speak well english
[01:40] <dressiy> can you set me with italian girlfriend
[01:41] <MoGL_Y> ok.. age hight ecc.....
[01:42] <MoGL_Y> what nation are you from?
[01:42] <dhcpee> whats up
[01:42] <dhcpee> ya fuckin zeroooz
[01:46] <dressiy> wann wir den neues schluessel haben
[01:47] <eBeavis> hehe, ach ja :D
[01:51] <NickH> Hi, what is the best program to make an ISO of a CD?
[01:51] <dressiy> nero
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> Alcohol 120%
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> or Nreo.
[01:52] <belter> winiso
[01:52] <dressiy> either or
[01:52] <dressiy> roxio
[01:52] <dressiy> they all do the same thing
[01:52] <belter> anything but roxio
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> yeah not roxio
[01:52] <dressiy> sort of like asking which type of towel is the best for drying off
[01:52] <NickH> Thanks :)
[01:53] <NickH> Geeting Winiso now :)
[01:54] <NickH> Cheers again
[01:55] <dressiy> illicitly, i'm sure
[02:10] <happy_sou> hi all
[02:11] <JAY4PREZ> yo how do i access the register
[02:11] <JAY4PREZ> whats the run command
[02:11] <Star_Fire> jay: the registry?
[02:12] <dressiy> regedit
[02:12] <JAY4PREZ> aaah
[02:12] <JAY4PREZ> ty
[02:12] <dressiy> guess we won't be seeing JAY4PREZ again...
[02:12] <dressiy> ;>
[02:12] <JAY4PREZ> im not so sure of that
[02:12] <JAY4PREZ> haha, got some problems over here soo
[02:13] <JAY4PREZ> ill just stick around :]
[02:13] <dressiy> dude
[02:13] <dressiy> if you dont know regedit off the top of your head you are not equipped to f
[02:13] * _htg_ is now known as htg_
[02:14] <JAY4PREZ> im not going to fuck with it, just look into it, cause some spyware crap i
[02:14] <JAY4PREZ> so im just looking
[02:14] <dressiy> what's it doing
[02:15] <JAY4PREZ> causing all kinds of trouble
[02:15] <dressiy> like
[02:16] <JAY4PREZ> popups, svchost running at 100% cpu
[02:16] <dressiy> heh
[02:16] <dressiy> just take your system32 folder
[02:16] <JAY4PREZ> it sux so cuz im so aware of this crap and never accept something i dont k
[02:16] <dressiy> and put it in the recycle bin
[02:16] <JAY4PREZ> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\
[02:16] <JAY4PREZ> CurrentVersion\Run
[02:16] <JAY4PREZ> keyboard = "%Root%\kybrdff_16.exe"
[02:16] <dressiy> yeah right
[02:17] <dressiy> dude
[02:17] <dressiy> dont try to cherry pick
[02:17] <JAY4PREZ> allright
[02:17] <dressiy> i'd reformat
[02:17] <dressiy> then get a decent firewall
[02:17] <dressiy> you're wasting your time otherwise
[02:17] <JAY4PREZ> really:/
[02:18] <JAY4PREZ> cuz its alot of trouble formatting
[02:18] <Humbert> What American state is abbreviated "MN"?
[02:18] <Humbert> minnesota? maine?
[02:18] <dressiy> minn
[02:19] <dressiy> its not alot of trouble
[02:19] <dressiy> i do it all the time
[02:19] <dressiy> reformatting is your friend
[02:19] <JAY4PREZ> errr
[02:19] <dressiy> its not as big a deal as you think
[02:20] <JAY4PREZ> im gonna lose my saves, and im not talking game saves, im talking like con
[02:21] <dressiy> dont be a pussy
[02:21] <dressiy> nothing you have is that important
[02:21] <dressiy> you can transfer those files elsewhere
[02:21] <dressiy> get a storage hd
[02:21] <dressiy> then you can move all your bestiality porn there
[02:22] <JAY4PREZ> lol
[02:22] <JAY4PREZ> isnt it like enough to move them to a partition?
[02:23] <dressiy> i dunno
[02:24] <dressiy> i have a 250 gb storage drive
[02:25] <JAY4PREZ> k
[02:25] <JAY4PREZ> well, spybot seemed to get a hold of some shit right now
[02:25] <JAY4PREZ> ill reboot and see if it got the load
[02:25] <dressiy> lol
[02:26] <dressiy> sad'
[02:26] <JAY4PREZ> sad?
[02:26] <JAY4PREZ> lol what now
[02:26] <dressiy> you need to learn how to organize your shit
[02:26] <dressiy> and make reformating work for you
[02:26] <dressiy> you'll extend the life of your computer
[02:26] <irwinz> been asking here all night... can anybody help me with an iTunes situation?
[02:26] <dressiy> i cant
[02:26] <JAY4PREZ> haha this crap is stolen anyway
[02:26] <irwinz> that helps -_-
[02:26] <eBeavis> i dont like ipods, sry
[02:27] <JAY4PREZ> cya and ty
[02:27] <irwinz> don't apologize to me, apologize to apple?
[02:27] <dressiy> np
[02:27] <eBeavis> sry i cant help
[02:27] <dressiy> <JAY4PREZ> haha this crap is stolen anyway
[02:27] <dressiy> and he's in norway..
[02:27] <dressiy> must be a paki immigrant
[02:27] <happy_sou> Hi i've got a nf7 abit mobo and would like to kindly ask which lowest cpu
[02:27] <eBeavis> omg jay steals stuff :o
[02:28] <dressiy> sounds like a lie
[02:30] <happy_sou> Hi i've got a nf7 abit mobo and would like to kindly ask which lowest cpu
[02:42] <BadarZ> google
[02:42] <happy_sou> i want the cheapest cpu this mombo takes to test it out.
[02:42] <BadarZ> www.google.com
[02:55] <Steaky> anyone know of an application that'll just make a noise or something when my
[02:55] <dressiy> not me
[02:55] <dressiy> is there a way to save you keys (settings) when you move media player class
[02:56] <dressiy> its annoying to keep setting that over and over
[02:57] <ASk> move?
[02:57] <ASk> mpc doesn't store anything in its directory
[02:58] <ASk> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Gabest\Media Player Classic
[02:58] <ASk> is the registry key that should be useful
[03:00] <Ollebigrt> howdy
[03:00] <dressiy> ok
[03:00] <dressiy> yeah i know it doesn't store anything
[03:00] <dressiy> thats what sucks
[03:00] <Ollebigrt> can someone help me with usenet, i can hardly find anything
[03:00] <dressiy> i have all my settings on it now
[03:02] <p0rty> what command change vhost on bnc ?
[03:02] <ASk> dressiy: as I've said
[03:02] <ASk> all settings are stored in that registry key
[03:02] <ASk> export it
[03:04] <dressiy> ok
[03:04] <BadarZ> dressiy, in the options, there is an option to save settings to .ini
[03:05] <dressiy> then how do i reapply it
[03:06] <BadarZ> easy, after the reinstall check the box again and replace the .ini with the
[03:07] <dressiy> i could probably do that with all my programs huh.. like word
[03:07] <dressiy> when i reformat
[03:08] <dressiy> thats a skill i definitely want to learn
[03:09] <ASk> <dressiy> i could probably do that with all my programs huh.. like word
[03:09] <ASk> no
[03:09] <ASk> only if the program supports it
[03:09] <ASk> and most don't
[03:09] <ASk> ini files are considered 'deprecated' by microsoft
[03:11] <dressiy> how would i save my settings for word in a reformat then
[03:12] <ASk> you could try to find all the places in the registry where MS Word keeps it set
[03:12] <ASk> you can try Microsoft's Files and Settings export wizard, which probably suppor
[03:12] <ASk> or you can just not save settings between reformats.
[03:14] <dressiy> ding ding ding
[03:14] <Agent4x> Wtf yuo r a muthafcuka n shudd suk yur dad's dick! LOLOLOL
[03:15] <BadarZ> word cannot be customised *that* much. you can get it back to your preferred
[03:16] <dressiy> not the autocorrect stuff
[03:26] <llasd> im experiencing paranormal activities
[03:27] <JAY4PREZ> ^^
[03:28] <JAY4PREZ> What is a Native Binding?
[03:35] <Humbert> ???
[03:43] <Ollebigrt> usenet_
[03:43] <Ollebigrt> ?
[03:52] * happy_sou is now known as one_soul
[04:00] * llasd is now known as foobar-
[04:01] <monster9> my notebook shows pictures on websites with jerky graphics. like they are
[04:02] <BadarZ> are you using some kind of internet accelerator program?
[04:02] <monster9> no
[04:02] <BadarZ> i know that some of those like to compress images more than usual
[04:02] <monster9> it looks strange,., and this is pretty much a clean install so i don't thi
[04:03] <BadarZ> have you tried a different browser?
[04:03] <BadarZ> show us a screenshot
[04:03] <monster9> ok just a second
[04:04] <OneLove> BadarZ: Reinstall your Graphic Card driver
[04:04] <monster9> any site where i can upload a jog file for free
[04:04] <monster9> ?
[04:05] <OneLove> I mean monster9
[04:05] <monster9> oh i found one...
[04:06] <monster9> how would that help if i have this problem only with the images in explore
[04:09] <BadarZ> imageshack.us
[04:10] <BadarZ> you could go the rest of your life using firefox.
[04:10] <jenna> i love u ziad
[04:10] <BadarZ> or give IE7 a shot
[04:10] <monster9> http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenun0.jpg
[04:11] <jenna> I love u ziad
[04:11] <jenna> u love me too ziad?
[04:11] <BadarZ> monster9, looks like IE is set to a higher zoom level than normal
[04:11] <z606> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:11] <jenna> yes u love me
[04:11] <monster9> the fonts came kind of bad too... but look at the intel logo and headlines
[04:11] <z606> u r a dirty personnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[04:12] <monster9> they are gif or jpg files and they look strange
[04:12] <ducch> monster9 you use IE. *doesnt help*
[04:12] <katmalay> hey jenna ziad is my bf
[04:12] <katmalay> leave us k
[04:12] <BadarZ> yeah, really looks like zoomed in
[04:12] <monster9> that's the thing...
[04:12] <jenna> katmalay you are very bad girl yesterday you making love with my father right
[04:12] <z606> and shut up jennaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:12] <ducch> lol
[04:12] <jenna> ziad tell me that you love me
[04:12] <z606> shut up
[04:13] <BadarZ> do you have some accessibility options enabled
[04:13] <jenna> katmalay is a bad girl she making love with my father last night
[04:13] <monster9> i will check
[04:13] <katmalay> hey i dont making love with your father jenna
[04:13] <katmalay> liar
[04:13] <katmalay> ziad help me
[04:13] <jenna> kat malay shut up your mouth
[04:13] <jenna> you are callgirl right
[04:13] <katmalay> nooo
[04:14] <katmalay> ziad tell me
[04:14] <katmalay> that u love me
[04:14] <monster9> BadarZ - nop
[04:14] <z606> shutttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt up jennnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:14] <z606> i loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee maly only malyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[04:14] <z606> okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:15] <jenna> z 606 ziad i love u make love again like yesterday
[04:15] <katmalay> huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuheuhueuhuehe (crying)
[04:15] <katmalay> i HATE EVERY ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[04:15] <katmalay> JENNNA YOU ARE BITCH!
[04:15] <jenna> no katmalay you are dirtiest bitch!
[04:16] <z606> i dont see u first
[04:16] <katmalay> JENNA YOU ARE BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH
[04:16] <katmalay> I'M DIDE
[04:16] <katmalay> I'M DIE
[04:16] <z606> shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[04:16] <z606> i dont like u
[04:16] <z606> i love malyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[04:16] <jenna> ZIAD KATMALAY IS QUit irc so can u make love with me
[04:16] <Zerkon> Anyone know how to add a timer on a 'on:TEXT:' mIRC script? So you can only
[04:17] <jenna> z606 i love u
[04:17] <jenna> katmalay already dead
[04:17] <z606> no way i hate u
[04:18] <jenna> katmalay already DEAD
[04:18] <jenna> I AM THE WINNER
[04:18] <jenna> SO I AM ZIAD GIRL FRIEND
[04:18] <jenna> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:18] <z606> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:18] <z606> i hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[04:18] <jenna> yoooou love me
[04:18] <jenna> YES YOU LOVE ME
[04:18] <jenna> LETS SEX ZIAD
[04:18] <z606> then malay not poor one ok
[04:19] <z606> nooooooooooo
[04:19] <jenna> oh KAT MALAY ALREADY QUIT IRC SO SHE IS DEAD HAHAHAHAHAH
[04:19] <jenna> ZIADZIADILOVEU
[04:20] <z606> no fuck u i love her
[04:20] <jenna> u love me kat malay already DEAD
[04:21] <z606> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:21] <z606> u r lie u dont love me
[04:21] <jenna> AH U LOVE ME ZIAD
[04:21] <jenna> I LOVE U
[04:21] <jenna> SO WE SEX NOW
[04:21] <jenna> YES
[04:21] <jenna> AHH
[04:21] <belter> Zerkon: try #mirc
[04:21] <jenna> YES
[04:21] <jenna> I MASTURBATING U
[04:27] <lsadla> lol
[04:27] <lsadla> belter <3
[04:27] * lsadla licks belter
[04:42] <Oggy> eww
[05:11] <wheelz> whats a diacridits_sensitive value?
[05:11] <wheelz> and how do i set it to 1?
[05:11] <mihailt> hi
[05:12] <mihailt> is anyone here good with php?
[05:26] <NineTails> What does AD (as in 250 AD) means?
[05:27] <Kor> something latin I belive
[05:27] <Kor> google will tell you
[05:29] <BadarZ> After Death
[05:29] <BadarZ> "Anno Domini"
[05:29] <BadarZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini
[05:30] <Saw> hi, what's .racestats ?
[05:32] <Agent4x> Wtf yuo r a muthafcuka n shudd suk yur dad's dick! LOLOLOL
[05:35] <Oggy> hehe ban requested
[05:35] <Oggy> =)
[05:37] <Genghis> anyone know what the sunglasses are called that look lik ethey have one hug
[05:38] <belter> bono eyes/ fly glasses
[05:38] <belter> shield was more of an okley thing
[05:44] <Genghis> thanks
[05:48] <jimska> after some help please
[05:49] <jimska> hello
[05:49] * Disconnected
[05:49] * Attempting to rejoin channel #help
[05:49] * Rejoined channel #help
[05:49] * Topic is 'General Help - Just Ask! - NO Illegal/P2P/Bots/Scripts/Downloading/Idle Chat/Ms
[05:49] * Set by Osc!osc@irc.packetmonkeys.com on Tue Sep 12 17:56:55
[05:49] <belter> ask a question get a reply
[05:50] <jimska> uk
[05:50] <jimska> ok
[05:51] <jimska> any idea how I get onto the alt.binaries.multimedia channel on EFnet?
[05:53] <BadarZ> /j alt.binaries.multimedia
[05:53] <jimska> any ideas?
[05:54] <belter> ...../join #alt.binaries.multimedia
[05:54] <BadarZ> didnt know such a chan existed
[05:54] <belter> channel names start with a #
[05:54] <jimska> I know this sounds stupid but I can't seem to get on
[05:55] <jimska> cut a long story short...
[05:55] <SuperDude> i can
[05:55] <BadarZ> as can i
[05:55] <jimska> I'm downloading TV shows on easynews.com
[05:56] <jimska> on that channel people are making requests for TV shows for people to post
[05:56] <jimska> I'd like to make a request but can't get on the channel
[05:56] <jimska> I'm using mIRC
[05:57] <SuperDude> ther should be no reason you can't join the channel
[05:57] <SuperDude> the ban list is empty
[05:58] <jimska> I am new to this as you can see
[05:58] <SuperDude> type exactly like this:
[05:58] <SuperDude> /join #alt.binaries.multimedia
[05:59] * Universe is now known as Rape|
[05:59] <jimska> you are a star
[06:00] <jimska> thanks very much
[06:06] <activator> fawk, i am having problems removing/installing Java :)
[06:06] <activator> fawk
[06:06] <activator> when i try to install it
[06:06] <activator> it says JRE already installed
[06:07] <activator> but when i try to run an app that needs it
[06:07] <activator> it says its not properly installed
[06:07] <activator> fawk
[06:07] <WhiteDeth> any ops here?
[06:07] <WhiteDeth> Can something be done about an idiot who keeps spamming people?? :\
[06:07] <WhiteDeth> I finally managed to get his /whois, seems to be from that server Blacken
[06:20] <hoyt> I have almost no experience building a pc... and I need some help. I already h
[06:23] <zAlanM> try ebay
[06:23] <WhiteDeth> or NewEgg.com - pretty cheap stuff there. If you can find what you need.
[06:23] <hoyt> The thing is I don't really know what I need
[06:24] <zAlanM> i don't think newegg still sells motherboards that can take a p3
[06:24] <hoyt> For example is this ok? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168
[06:24] <zAlanM> you need a motherboard for a P3
[06:24] <zAlanM> holy crap, they do
[06:24] <zAlanM> yeah, that would work
[06:25] <AIW> question about sound... what does 16 bit
[06:25] <AIW> in comparison to kbps for example
[06:26] <belter> need a cheap case with power supply
[06:26] <hoyt> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811212028
[06:26] <hoyt> that's the cheapest i found
[06:26] <bassgoon> anyone tried the new itunes on windows, and gotten cracking when a flash a
[06:27] <hoyt> doesn't have power supply though
[06:30] <Disappear> anyone around?
[06:30] <Disappear> er wrong channel
[06:30] <ASk> AIW: sound is a wave, right
[06:31] <ASk> when you represent sound in a digital wave, you do it by sampling the wave freq
[06:31] <ASk> 16bit sound means that there are 2^16 possible gradations of amplitude of each
[06:31] <AIW> does that mean good sound quality?
[06:31] <zAlanM> it's one element of sound quality
[06:32] <Saw> someone? .racestats ?
[06:32] <AIW> i have 16bit stereto 441000
[06:32] <bassgoon> sacd uses 1bit
[06:32] <AIW> is that good quality
[06:32] <zAlanM> the really high end audio boards are 24bit
[06:32] <AIW> can you compare it to kbps
[06:32] <AIW> like 128kbps?
[06:32] <AIW> 64kbps?
[06:32] <ASk> kind of
[06:32] <zAlanM> 44,100 bit/s is the sample rate
[06:32] <bassgoon> SACD is 1bit, but 2.8224 mhz
[06:32] <zAlanM> 44.1kbit/s
[06:33] <ASk> picture yourself a wave
[06:33] <ASk> right?
[06:33] <bassgoon> zAlanM, shhh, you obviously are confused
[06:33] <ASk> to digitize it, you sample it
[06:33] <ASk> there are 2 important parameters
[06:33] <bassgoon> its 44,000hz, not kbit/s
[06:33] <ASk> the rate you sample it at
[06:33] <ASk> and the precision you represent each measurement with
[06:33] <zAlanM> right, that's a brain fart
[06:33] <ASk> so, 44100hz is the sampling rate, with 16bits per each measurement
[06:33] <zAlanM> my explanation is still right...
[06:34] <ASk> this gives you 88kbyte/s of sound
[06:34] <zAlanM> 44,100 times a second, a sample is taken
[06:34] <ASk> now, when you compress it, compression rates are measured in kbits/s
[06:34] <zAlanM> each sample can be one of 2^16 values
[06:34] <AIW> anyway it says 584kbps 16bit 44.1hz 2 channels
[06:34] <estranger> anyone konw if i can make Analog print out a report about who visits a si
[06:34] <AIW> so bottom line is that good?
[06:34] <zAlanM> good compared to what?
[06:34] <AIW> i do appreciate explaining
[06:34] <AIW> compared to say a song you download
[06:34] <zAlanM> it's pretty much CD quality at that rate
[06:35] <ASk> so, a 256kbit mp3 is 256kbit/s compression, versus original 88*8 = 704kbit/s un
[06:35] <AIW> really?
[06:35] <ASk> er
[06:35] <ASk> multiply 704 by 2
[06:35] <ASk> for 2 channels
[06:35] <AIW> so if the origianl mp3 was 128kbps
[06:35] <zAlanM> if the compression algoritm is decent
[06:35] <AIW> and after movie maker its like that
[06:35] <AIW> so it didnt copress it?
[06:35] <zAlanM> but you can't upsample an mp3 to improve quality
[06:36] <ASk> AIW: it uncompressed it to 1404kbps (uncompressed)
[06:36] <zAlanM> mp3 is lossy compression
[06:36] <ASk> then compressed back with another algorithm
[06:36] <zAlanM> it throws shit away to shrink it
[06:36] <ASk> giving you 584kbps data rate
[06:36] <hoyt> on pricewatch there is "PC - No OS" and "Barebones" - what's the difference?
[06:36] <ASk> whether that was lossy or lossless
[06:36] <ASk> that depends on the compression Movie Maker uses
[06:36] <AIW> so the sound quality remained the same?
[06:36] <ASk> probably WMA, which can be both
[06:36] <Disappear> barebones wont have hdd or cd drives
[06:36] <ASk> if it was lossless, yes
[06:36] <AIW> its wmv
[06:36] <cyberfrg> hoyt: barebones generally only includes case, powersupply, and motherboard
[06:36] <bassgoon> hoyt, a pc no os is a full computer
[06:36] <zAlanM> mp3 is not lossless
[06:36] <ASk> if the 2nd-stage compression was lossy, then no
[06:36] <ASk> sound quality is technically worse
[06:37] <ASk> whether you will hear it in practice, that remains to be seen
[06:37] <zAlanM> so if you start from a 128kbit/s mp3, you can't get better sound out of it
[06:37] <ASk> zAlanM
[06:37] <ASk> you are confused
[06:37] <ASk> ;P
[06:37] <bassgoon> well, you can have better sound equipment...but that can only do so much
[06:37] <zAlanM> best you can hope for is to make it play back easier on a slow computer
[06:37] <AIW> i dont expect better i just dont want to lose quality
[06:37] <bassgoon> what?
[06:37] <AIW> i dont see how it says 584kbps
[06:37] <ASk> he took a 128kbit MP3, used it with movie maker, got a 584kbit/s WMA
[06:37] <Disappear> i gotta followup for your explanation of mp3 when yer done ;)
[06:37] <ASk> or whatever
[06:37] <zAlanM> why would you quadruple the disk space it takes for no improvement in qualit
[06:37] <AIW> best mp3s dont use 584 kbps
[06:37] <bassgoon> zAlanM, compressed audio doesn't play as well on slower computers
[06:38] <ASk> AIW: Movie Maker could be displaying the overall video bitrate
[06:38] <zAlanM> bassgoon right, the less compression though, the better your chance of playi
[06:38] <AIW> its on properties under Audio
[06:38] <ASk> ok, then it just didn't particularily try.
[06:38] <ASk> or it tried to do lossless WMA
[06:38] <ASk> can't tell you more without more information
[06:38] <Disappear> someone once told me its like bud. the smaller, more packed the brick, th
[06:39] <AIW> alright ASk thanks
[06:39] <AIW> do appreciate the help
[06:39] <zAlanM> it's more like packing to move
[06:39] <AIW> and zAlanM you yoo
[06:39] <AIW> too 10x
[06:39] <Disappear> so then, how does lossless compression work?
[06:39] <zAlanM> sometimes you have to throw things away to get it on the truck, and there's
[06:39] <Disappear> like .flac or .shn
[06:39] <Kor> I've always wondered how FLAC worked
[06:40] <bassgoon> it uses a cool algorithm
[06:40] <Kor> cause a 700MB CD turns into over GB
[06:40] <bassgoon> wha?!
[06:40] <ASk> Kor: same way ZIP works
[06:40] <ASk> only more tailored for audio
[06:40] <zAlanM> you're using it wrong if it gets bigger
[06:40] <bassgoon> yeah...
[06:40] <Kor> I don't use it at all
[06:40] <bassgoon> flac shouldn't make a cd bigger
[06:40] <Kor> I just use MP3
[06:40] <Disappear> an .lz algorithm
[06:40] <Kor> but some of my friends have music in FLAC
[06:40] <zAlanM> CD audio is around 15mb/min
[06:40] <Disappear> ?
[06:41] <zAlanM> FLAC should be around 8-11MB/min
[06:41] <Disappear> you can zip things and make them bigger actually
[06:41] <bassgoon> true
[06:41] <ASk> Disappear: of course
[06:41] <ASk> computational models 101
[06:41] <zAlanM> not a lot bigger though
[06:41] <ASk> you can't compress all of your data strings of length N
[06:41] <ASk> to length M < N
[06:41] <bassgoon> i use the 0 compression setting to put folders into one file to allow easy
[06:42] <Disappear> well then you can compress audio and make a bigger file
[06:42] <ASk> for a simple reason that there are less strings of length M < N than there a
[06:42] <Kor> you don't use trillion for irc, do you?
[06:42] <ASk> so at least one string has to grow bigger when compressed
[06:42] <bassgoon> nah
[06:42] <bassgoon> I use xchat
[06:42] <ASk> anyway, Kor: http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html
[06:42] <ASk> read that if you want to know how FLAC works
[06:42] <Kor> I used to use trillion for AIM
[06:42] <bassgoon> trillian
[06:42] <Kor> but now I don't really use AIM at all
[06:42] <bassgoon> ack
[06:42] <Kor> yeah, trillian
[06:43] <bassgoon> its named after the character in H2G2
[06:43] <bassgoon> :p
[06:43] <hoyt> thanks for your help everyone
[06:43] <bassgoon> what was your question?
[06:43] <bassgoon> lol
[06:44] <zAlanM> he was asking about the p3
[06:44] <zAlanM> we did help him, strangely enough
[06:44] <bassgoon> no, the barebones, vs no os
[06:44] <zAlanM> that was his second Q
[06:44] <bassgoon> o
[06:44] <zAlanM> his first one was about building a computer cheap from parts, and he had eve
[06:44] <TSHAO> !help
[06:44] <TSHAO> =)
[06:44] <bassgoon> omg...why not p4
[06:45] <zAlanM> he had the p3 already
[06:45] <zAlanM> and ram and whatever
[06:45] <bassgoon> oic
[06:45] <zAlanM> just needed a mobo
[06:45] <bassgoon> TSHAO, whatcha need
[06:45] <zAlanM> TSHAO just fucking ask
[06:45] <Kor> I fixed my USB HDD btw
[06:45] <Kor> I don't know if it was power issue or what
[06:46] <bassgoon> did you tickle it like i said>
[06:46] <Kor> but now that it's running through a hub it's been fine
[06:46] <zAlanM> i'd better go do some work
[06:46] <Kor> shouldn't have been though cause it has it's own PSU
[06:46] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:48] <TSHAO> bassgoon i like drop the my channel
[06:48] <TSHAO> zAlanM i like drop the my channel
[06:49] <Kor> wtf?
[06:49] <TSHAO> zAlanM i like drop the my channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> zAlanM i like drop the my channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> bassgoon i like drop the my channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:49] <TSHAO> belter i like drop the channel
[06:50] <cyberfrg> ok...
[06:50] <compdoc> belter is making new friends, I see
[06:50] <Kor> troll bot
[06:50] <MoGL_Y> hi kor
[06:50] <Kor> heynow
[06:50] <bassgoon> if you're plugged in to ethernet, but are still connected using wireless,
[06:51] <Kor> to switch to the wired for access to the internet?
[06:51] <Saw> hi, what's black music?
[06:51] <bassgoon> yeah...
[06:51] <Kor> I don't know of a seemless way to switch, no
[06:51] <Kor> if I run 2 net connections it always freaks out on me anyways
[06:51] <bassgoon> Saw, its music that black people stereotypically listen to
[06:51] <ASk> bassgoon: only if both adapters have the same IP address, and your router is co
[06:51] <bassgoon> yea...
[06:51] <bassgoon> :-/
[06:52] <ASk> which is not really possible, unless one of them clones the other
[06:52] <cyberfrg> bassgoon: your best bet would be to put together a linux or obsd based fir
[06:52] <cyberfrg> oh
[06:52] <cyberfrg> you just want to do it once?
[06:52] <Kor> I can run wireless for internet and a wired lan to share files locally without
[06:52] <bassgoon> meh never mind...
[06:52] <cyberfrg> thought you ment using them both at the same time ... sry
[06:53] <bassgoon> no
[06:53] <bassgoon> :p
[06:55] <MoGL_Y> hei people i'm italian
[06:55] <Humbert> I created a torrent, uploaded it to a site, seeded it for a while. I reboot
[06:56] <MoGL_Y> humbert can you help me?
[06:56] <Humbert> With what?
[06:56] <MoGL_Y> pvt please
[06:57] <Humbert> just say it in the chan, someone else might be able to help you if i can't
[06:58] <MoGL_Y> how i can download from the server?
[06:58] <Humbert> What are you downloading, and from what server?
[06:59] <SuperDude> and how?
[06:59] <bassgoon> hey, topic says no downloading
[06:59] <MoGL_Y> i don't understand well
[06:59] <MoGL_Y> bass ye ye
[06:59] <apio_pio> vi sono persone che parlano o comprendono la lingua italiana
[06:59] <MoGL_Y> apio pio ciao
[07:00] <apio_pio> comprendi italiano
[07:00] <MoGL_Y> si
[07:00] <apio_pio> sei m o f
[07:00] <MoGL_Y> f
[07:00] <pixil> speak in private, you two, if you're not going to speak English.
[07:00] <pixil> :-)
[07:01] <MoGL_Y> yess
[07:01] <apio_pio> ti chiamo in privato
[07:01] <MoGL_Y> si
[07:03] * MoGL_Y is now known as Carlotte
[07:14] <rhelik> wow, 2 great software updates in 24hrs... iTunes 7 is nicer, and FoxIt PDF R
[07:16] <rhelik> hmm is Windows Update slow today? It's been scanning for almost 5mins, it n
[07:18] <activator> foxit free?
[07:18] <activator> also, can it save/edit PFDs as well
[07:18] <activator> or just read?
[07:19] <bassgoon> rhelik, which point of windows update?
[07:19] <bassgoon> the green scrolly bar?
[07:21] <rhelik> yea, it finally finished, so n/m
[07:22] <compdoc> updates wants me to reboot
[07:22] <rhelik> probably because my PC wasn't on the web overnight, so when I got on, Window
[07:22] <rhelik> I was doing double duty
[07:22] <rhelik> activator: FoxIt is free, it's a reader ONLY
[07:23] <rhelik> activator: to be honest, even in Acrobat Pro you're ability to edit is very
[07:23] <compdoc> cutepdf is a good little writer
[07:23] <lowblow> how does one remove the Winfuck.Win32.Trojan ?
[07:23] <rhelik> I look at PDFs as "carved in stone", the only thing you can easily edit are
[07:23] <compdoc> AVG Free is good with trojans
[07:23] <rhelik> lowblow: install a trial of Eset's NOD32
[07:23] <lowblow> compdoc: remember the url?
[07:24] <compdoc> sure - download.com
[07:24] <lowblow> it's a worm.
[07:24] <Humbert> I saw a "Universal Remote for PS2" in a store today, which came with an ada
[07:25] <rhelik> I would insist you use NOD32 instead of AVG, NOD32 is better
[07:25] <lowblow> i've studied its traffic.
[07:25] <compdoc> but, NOD32 isnt free
[07:25] <rhelik> but it has a trial, and it's better than AVG
[07:26] <rhelik> he could at least use the trial to remove the infection, and if he wants to
[07:26] <compdoc> Ive used AVG for a long time, and it works plenty gud
[07:26] <rhelik> plenty good is NOT the same as better :P
[07:26] <OneLove> Hey compdoc
[07:26] <compdoc> hey, love type person
[07:26] <lowblow> are you calling compdoc a cheap bastard?
[07:26] <OneLove> <--------- AVG Loyal User
[07:26] <compdoc> heh
[07:26] <rhelik> lowblow: I also recommend you follow my guide http://rhelik.lehost.net/help
[07:26] <rhelik> lowblow: no I'm calling you a cheap bastard if you choose not to buy an AV
[07:27] <compdoc> he has guides, even
[07:27] <lowblow> you're a dork.
[07:27] <rhelik> compdoc is a cheap bastard, I don't need to call him one
[07:27] <OneLove> compdoc: U bet! I been using it for a few years, works GREAT
[07:27] <lowblow> i love compdoc.
[07:27] <rhelik> I might be a dork, but I still have the best advice to cure your problem and
[07:27] <lowblow> but thanks for the url.
[07:27] <compdoc> norton and mcafee suck big time
[07:27] <compdoc> use anything but those
[07:27] <OneLove> [compdoc] Big time Memory eaters
[07:27] <lowblow> compdoc: i love you.
[07:28] <compdoc> aww
[07:28] * compdoc barfs
[07:28] <OneLove> Avast & Antivir are fine too
[07:28] <Humbert> yay antivir
[07:28] <lowblow> love at first keystroke *blush*
[07:28] <OneLove> Majority think PAID ones are better than Freebies
[07:28] <OneLove> It's not always 100% right
[07:29] <compdoc> thats true - thats why they pirate that junk
[07:29] <pixil> It is in this case.
[07:29] <lowblow> says pixil. shrug.
[07:29] <pixil> No. Says my experience.
[07:29] <lowblow> says pixil. shrug.
[07:29] <pixil> :-)
[07:30] <lowblow> thanks rhelik
[07:31] <lowblow> if nod32 can cure my laptop, ill immediately buy it.
[07:32] <blase> now free! for 30 days!
[07:32] <compdoc> I hear its good
[07:33] <blase> wilderssecurity folk seem to love kaspersky
[07:33] <compdoc> lets beat up those wilderssecurity folk
[07:34] <blase> (too)
[07:36] <blase> they like nod32 - in fact, it's the official nod32 support forum
[07:39] <rhelik> that one guy that comes in here and says he does Virus research for a living
[07:39] <rhelik> and he taught me a couple things I wasn't aware of, and helped me realize ho
[07:40] <compdoc> its not crappy, AVG works fine, and uses low resources
[07:40] <compdoc> anbd using two AV at the same time? isnt that stupid?
[07:41] <OneLove> I guess that the more the craps complaints the full of shit people are
[07:42] <chains> is there an ssh daemon i can run in windows ?
[07:42] <rhelik> compdoc: but it lacks a virtual cpu
[07:43] <rhelik> compdoc: using two isn't neccesarily dumb, it's not like wearing 2 condoms
[07:43] <rhelik> the only con of two AVs is ram and cpu overhead, the 2nd of which is overrat
[07:43] <compdoc> not if they both run in the background
[07:43] <Kor> two AV apps can interfer
[07:43] <rhelik> heck, if you have a core 2 duo setup, running two AVs is probably a good thi
[07:43] <compdoc> if ones inactive, thats something else
[07:43] <Kor> especially if they both want to be the first thing to run
[07:44] <rhelik> compdoc: umm "in the background" doesn't make it any faster per se
[07:44] <rhelik> compdoc: AV software will halt what you're doing until AFTER it scans
[07:44] <rhelik> it happens on a microsecond level, but that's how it works
[07:44] <rhelik> he uses both because of NOD32 has great AV support, and Kasperspy has great
[07:45] <rhelik> Kor: it's not physicially possible to run at the same time, there is always
[07:45] <rhelik> because somewhere, deep inside the thrones of Windows, there is a list of st
[07:45] <OneLove> Sometimes I figured, Virii may be released indirectly by the BIG Sellers AV
[07:45] <Kor> I don't mean having them both boot
[07:45] <Kor> one might want to load first
[07:46] <OneLove> then they put up the next day we KILLEd it with our updates
[07:46] <OneLove> ANother way of making $$$$$ I guess
[07:46] <rhelik> OneLove: if you're impling AV companies make viruses, you're dead wrong, but
[07:46] <compdoc> I use windows defender. I cant say how well it removes the toughest spyware
[07:47] <compdoc> theres been times when Ive had to track down and remove spyware by hand, be
[07:47] <compdoc> but not since the beta2 version of defender came out
[07:47] <rhelik> I'm a huge fan of Windows Defender, people forget that MS bought it because
[07:48] <barabas> is there an alternative to the Trend Micro online scan ?
[07:48] <rhelik> Defender's real benefit is it's pro-active measures
[07:48] <rhelik> barabas: yes, buy the local version
[07:48] <compdoc> I have an appointment - gotta go
[07:48] <Enc0re`> how big of a power supply would i need for an a64 x2 3800+ dual core
[07:48] <barabas> an online alternative
[07:48] <rhelik> I should take back my statement, Trend Micro's AS is actually the best, so M
[07:49] <rhelik> Enc0re: I wouldn't waste my $ on that cpu, but you want 400w, maybe more dep
[07:49] <barabas> rhelik : my browser seems to shut itself down towards the end of trendmicro
[07:49] <Enc0re`> whats wrong with that cpu
[07:49] <rhelik> barabas: install a local scanner (like NOD32) and be sure you don't have mal
[07:49] <barabas> that as good as trend?
[07:49] <rhelik> Enc0re: iirc myself and a few others told you Core 2 Duo is superior in spee
[07:50] <rhelik> barabas: Trend is better, but do a local scan to remove anything nasty, so y
[07:50] <Enc0re`> intel your saying?
[07:50] <barabas> i dont know if its malware thats stopping trend
[07:50] <rhelik> barabas: you should have something, anything, running local, don't rely on o
[07:50] <rhelik> barabas: I would assume so until you know otherwise
[07:50] <barabas> i have mcaffee and use lavasoft adaware & spybot
[07:50] <Oggy> barabas did you use trendmicro
[07:50] <Oggy> ?
[07:50] <jonnnnny> does linux run video smoother than a windows pc would?
[07:50] <barabas> i tried
[07:50] <rhelik> Enc0re: yea, and iirc you made some ignorant remarks that AMD is better, whi
[07:50] <Oggy> and what happened
[07:50] <Oggy> ?
[07:50] <barabas> but the 2 times after a few hours my browser shut itself down
[07:51] <Oggy> yes
[07:51] <Oggy> this is your problem
[07:51] <rhelik> jonnnnny: umm no, Windows has better drivers
[07:51] <Oggy> because I had the same problem
[07:51] <Oggy> you have to use
[07:51] <barabas> u did ?
[07:51] <Oggy> the spyware
[07:51] <Oggy> section
[07:51] <jonnnnny> ah
[07:51] <Oggy> dont use the virus section
[07:51] <barabas> spyware section ?
[07:51] <Oggy> yes
[07:51] <barabas> i see !
[07:51] <rhelik> jonnnnny: if you have choppy playback on AVIs (DiVX or XViD) it might be bec
[07:51] <Enc0re`> rhelik can u give me a link to the processor your referring to
[07:51] <Oggy> then you will get the active x
[07:51] <Oggy> install
[07:51] <rhelik> Oggy: man, type everything on 1 line please!
[07:51] <barabas> i see !
[07:51] <Oggy> rhelike Im trying to help here
[07:51] <Oggy> would you please
[07:52] <rhelik> Enc0re: buy any Core 2 Duo you can afford
[07:52] <rhelik> Enc0re: just google it
[07:52] <Oggy> barabas go to the spyware section with ie
[07:52] <barabas> wheres the spyware scan ?
[07:52] <Oggy> use ie
[07:52] <Oggy> dont use firefox
[07:52] <rhelik> Oggy: great, not do it in 1 line, commas exist for a reason
[07:52] <Oggy> for now
[07:52] <barabas> im using avant
[07:52] <Oggy> ah ok
[07:52] <rhelik> not/now
[07:52] <barabas> still ie ?
[07:52] <Oggy> yes you have to use ie
[07:52] <jonnnnny> i don't, my videos all run fine, i was just curious as to whether it would
[07:52] <barabas> k
[07:53] <jonnnnny> and from what i hear, linux would be the best
[07:53] <Oggy> just install it I had the same problem ,remember you need to get the active x
[07:53] <barabas> shall i try a full scan with ie ?
[07:53] <jonnnnny> so i was just doing little checks :P
[07:53] <Oggy> yes full scan
[07:53] <barabas> virus/spyware/malware scan ?
[07:53] <Oggy> you probably have a spyware calle spydt_microjoin which is closing your browse
[07:53] <Oggy> start off with spyware first
[07:54] <Enc0re`> the core 2 duo cpus look more expensive
[07:54] <barabas> is it possible to do just the spyware? i dont see a link
[07:54] <Oggy> barabas home office section
[07:54] <Oggy> go to the home office section and select spyware scan
[07:54] <Oggy> NO
[07:55] <Oggy> i mean small med business
[07:55] <barabas> small med business?
[07:55] <Oggy> section go to small med business section and choose free spyware scan
[07:55] <barabas> anti-spyware ?
[07:55] <Oggy> yes
[07:55] <barabas> ok
[07:55] <Oggy> and choose free spyware scan
[07:55] <barabas> haha, coolwebsearch, i used to have a problem with that
[07:55] <Oggy> working?
[07:55] <barabas> i see only "remove coolwebsearch" but no online scan
[07:56] <barabas> i can "download trial version"
[07:56] <Oggy> Barabas Small $ Medium Business section
[07:56] <Oggy> there is a link there
[07:56] <Oggy> Free Spyware scan
[07:56] <Oggy> you have to choose that one
[07:57] <barabas> i clicked on "anti-spyware"
[07:57] <Oggy> no
[07:57] <Oggy> Free spyware scan at the bottomo
[07:57] <Oggy> bottom even
[07:57] <Oggy> thats the one that will let you install active x
[07:57] <Oggy> for a spyware scan
[07:57] <barabas> "anti-spyware for SMB" ?
[07:57] <barabas> doesnt mention free
[07:57] <Oggy> no
[07:57] <Oggy> Free Spware scan on the bottom
[07:57] <Oggy> http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/home.htm
[07:58] <Oggy> Small Med Business Section
[07:58] <barabas> ah! different version of site
[07:58] <Oggy> Free Spyware Scan
[07:58] <barabas> US
[07:58] <Oggy> yes
[07:58] <barabas> loading....
[07:58] <Oggy> are you using ie
[07:58] <Oggy> ?
[07:59] <Oggy> a popup for active x should come up
[07:59] <Elegazt> can i convert my partition with XP to NTFS with convert.exe in XP ??
[07:59] <barabas> yep
[07:59] <Oggy> get the popup ?
[07:59] <Oggy> install active x
[07:59] <barabas> says "Please wait while Trend Micro™ Anti-Spyware for the Web loads... "
[08:00] <Oggy> once it comes up
[08:00] <Oggy> hit the tab that saids Scan and clean your pc
[08:00] <barabas> scan started....
[08:01] <rhelik> Elegazt: see if you can do in in Disk Manager, which you find my right click
[08:01] <Oggy> did you recieve a pop up asking for an install of active x
[08:01] <Oggy> ?
[08:01] <Elegazt> yeah but im afraid it will fuck up because the HD is in use and needed for
[08:01] <rhelik> Elegazt: there's never a good reason to run 2000 or XP in FAT,
[08:02] <jonnnnny> which is going to be the smoother transition for a file server for a home
[08:02] <rhelik> Elegazt: no it was made to do this, live, read more http://www.microsoft.c
[08:02] <rhelik> jonnnnny: I would go with 2003
[08:02] <barabas> i did yes
[08:02] <Oggy> alright your set
[08:03] <Oggy> geez
[08:03] <barabas> cool
[08:03] <Oggy> you know trendmicro needs an email
[08:03] <Oggy> they need to setup their site
[08:03] <Oggy> alittle more user friendly
[08:03] <barabas> yeah lol
[08:03] <rhelik> barabas: you should probably follow my guide and apply DropMyRights to prote
[08:04] <barabas> is that your software ?
[08:04] <rhelik> that way malware can't use FireFox,IE,irc,im to infect your system
[08:04] <rhelik> barabas: no, just my guide, DropMyRights was written by Microsoft
[08:04] <barabas> looks comprehensive
[08:04] <Oggy> different spyware utilities take care of different sypware
[08:05] <rhelik> I'm only in here for a couple hours a day, I see at least 4 ppl ask about ma
[08:05] <Oggy> for example adware se personal
[08:05] <Oggy> spybot
[08:05] <barabas> cool idea
[08:05] <barabas> i use adaware and spybot
[08:05] <rhelik> spybot is crap
[08:05] <rhelik> benchmarks have proven it
[08:05] <jonnnnny> thats what i figured, i would imagine it would run NTFS drives smoother
[08:05] <Bkacka> <rhelik> I'm only in here for a couple hours a day <---- LMAO ;-)
[08:05] <Oggy> hmm like I was saying
[08:05] <jonnnnny> which is what 4/5 of my external drives are
[08:05] * Bkacka is now known as Anthraxus
[08:05] <Oggy> different adware utilities work well with different spyware
[08:06] <Oggy> there is also microsofts anti spyware which had turned into windows defender
[08:06] <Anthraxus> rhelik= you know this is your 2nd home!
[08:06] <Oggy> lol
[08:06] <Oggy> hahaha
[08:06] <rhelik> actually I haven't been here much the past couple weeks
[08:07] <barabas> crap ?
[08:07] * Anthraxus pulls out Rheliks cot and reveals the truth
[08:07] <jonnnnny> oggy: is windows defender even a decent spyware prog?
[08:07] <Oggy> barabas you are doing fine with spybot
[08:07] <rhelik> spybot may have made spyware removal popular, but spybot has been proven to
[08:07] <Oggy> jonnnny for some spyware yes
[08:07] <rhelik> not to mention spybot isn't pro-active, you want pro-active
[08:07] <barabas> whats the best rhelik ?
[08:08] <barabas> spybot certainly didnt remove coolwebsearch when i had it
[08:08] <Oggy> adware personal se works well
[08:08] <rhelik> Trend Micros, NOD32, Panda, Kaspersky .. then run Windows Defender with one
[08:08] <rhelik> Oggy: nah that has benchmarked pretty poorly too
[08:09] <Oggy> Using a spyware application is fine
[08:09] <Oggy> for starters
[08:09] <barabas> ill see if trend finds anything during this scan ....
[08:09] <pokky> theres always this graphic card that most ppl playing games have, is there on
[08:09] <Oggy> wether its , good or not
[08:09] <pokky> because then thatll suck :(
[08:09] <Oggy> get into the habit of scanning your system
[08:10] <rhelik> Oggy: manual scanning is for n00bs
[08:10] <Oggy> rhelik I dont care
[08:10] <Oggy> scanning your machine
[08:10] <rhelik> if you do the 3 things I mention, you never need to pay attention to malware
[08:10] <Oggy> is very important
[08:10] <Oggy> wether good or bad sypware utility
[08:10] <rhelik> yes, a good program to do it for you, behind the scenes, is all you need
[08:10] <rhelik> bad scanning is better than no scanning, but wtf run crap scanning when you
[08:11] <rhelik> despite, I'm not gonna argue with anybody who thinks Spybot or AdAware are g
[08:11] <Oggy> lol
[08:11] <LordX> whats your choice then
[08:11] <LordX> mine is a guarantee
[08:11] <Oggy> Also be advise barabas you may also scan for trojan horses
[08:11] <Oggy> that will not be detected by
[08:11] <Oggy> those spyware utilities
[08:11] <Oggy> for example
[08:12] <LordX> what program are you speaking of??
[08:12] <Oggy> moosofts thecleaner
[08:12] <Oggy> http://www.moosoft.com
[08:12] <LordX> hmmm
[08:12] <rhelik> pokky: the best 'bang for the buck' is http://www.pricewatch.com/video_cards
[08:13] <Oggy> if your browser is being closed automatically , barabas , that is being caused
[08:13] <pokky> the 6600 is good? before when i had a slight clue about what ppl think about
[08:13] <Oggy> you may also have to run , a trojan cleaner in dos
[08:14] <LordX> poor trojans
[08:14] <Oggy> =)
[08:15] <Oggy> phear my year 2001 long sentences
[08:15] <Oggy> weeeeeeeee
[08:15] <rhelik> pokky: bad is relative, if you mean somebody who thinks spending $500 on a v
[08:15] <Oggy> hmrrmf video cards
[08:15] <rhelik> pokky: but it's enough to play all the games on the market, and it's only $1
[08:16] <Oggy> Bang for buck AGP card - 7600/6800
[08:17] <Oggy> 7600 is alot better
[08:17] <chains> if i remote into my home desktop from work, how secure is that connection?
[08:17] <chains> ie, can my boss/peers see what i'm doing?
[08:17] <rhelik> chains: VERY, everything is encrypted, nobody can spy or sniff
[08:17] <chains> nice
[08:17] <chains> good to know :)
[08:17] <chains> i thought i was going to have to run some ssh tunneling bs
[08:17] <Oggy> BFG Technologies 3DFuzion GeForce 7600 GS 256 MB PCI-e Graphics Card
[08:17] <Oggy> 256 MB DDR2 Dual-Link DVI-I HDTV VGA
[08:17] <Oggy> $89 to $129
[08:18] <rhelik> pokky: actually I was wrong, there is a 6800 for $130 http://www.pricewatch
[08:18] <rhelik> $89 - $129? post a real price
[08:18] <pokky> thanks
[08:18] <rhelik> the 7600 can be had for $129 http://www.pricewatch.com/video_cards/991912-1
[08:19] <rhelik> I don't now what's better, the 7600 or 6800, I would get the 7600 just to ha
[08:19] <Oggy> post a real card rhelik
[08:19] <Oggy> :P
[08:19] <rhelik> I did, I posted the cards you mentioned, which were better than the 6600 I f
[08:19] <Oggy> no you didnt
[08:20] <rhelik> see the difference is, I wasn't ragging on you because I'm a dick, you were
[08:20] <Oggy> I mentioned the 7600
[08:20] <Enc0re`> i need a new video card to run with my A64 X2 3800+ dual core
[08:20] <barabas> still scanning....
[08:20] <rhelik> exactly, I just said "I posted the cards you mentioned, which were better"
[08:20] <bassgoon> wtf did slashdot get slashdotted?
[08:21] <rhelik> Enc0re: why do you refuse to listen to everybody, who's been telling you the
[08:21] <barabas> taking a while to do the scan
[08:21] <Enc0re`> rhelik those processors are more expensive
[08:21] <rhelik> Enc0re: I'll swear you were the guy who said the "specs" look better than th
[08:21] <rhelik> Enc0re: how much in that 3800?
[08:21] <Oggy> barabas you will get a list
[08:21] <Oggy> http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1899/trendpu9.jpg
[08:21] <Oggy> like so
[08:22] <Oggy> expand the last one and see if you have microjoin in there
[08:22] <Enc0re`> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18462&vpn=ADA3800CUBOX&manufactu
[08:22] <Enc0re`> thats my cpu
[08:22] <Oggy> my choices for video cards were way better than yours rhelik
[08:23] <rhelik> Enc0re: I would still choose the E6300 for $175
[08:24] <Oggy> e6400 is a way better bang for the buck
[08:24] <rhelik> a Core 2 Duo 1.84ghz is faster than a 3.6ghz P4, so you can't look at ghz an
[08:24] <rhelik> Oggy: I know, I'm just showing him the Core 2 isn't expensive, the 6400 is l
[08:24] <Oggy> no its not
[08:24] <Oggy> less
[08:24] <Darn> they need to use PR ratings
[08:24] <Darn> otherwide is confusing
[08:25] <rhelik> don't just say "it's less" back it up or stfu :)
[08:25] <Oggy> sure
[08:25] <rhelik> I pulled that figure out of my head, I just want you to have integrity
[08:25] <Oggy> =)
[08:25] <Oggy> I'll back it up
[08:25] <rhelik> I know it's not dead on, that's just the last price I saw
[08:26] <rhelik> hmm I'll have to reboot, these windoze updates seem to have jacked my pc up
[08:27] <jonnnnny> whats a pretty bitchin processor cost?
[08:27] <jonnnnny> roughly
[08:27] <LordX> $500+
[08:27] <deww> or you can get one "step" below and save a few hundred
[08:27] <jonnnnny> which would give me a what
[08:27] <LordX> e6600
[08:27] <Star_Fire> deww: did ya find the place?
[08:27] <rhelik> jonnnnny: well the best Core 2 Duo.. so like $1,000, and soon the quad core
[08:27] <deww> Star_Fire: yes. Super Value. :)
[08:28] <deww> RHX Super Value or something
[08:28] <deww> Star_Fire: sucker's brighter than i expected :)
[08:28] <Oggy> rhelik you are off on the price
[08:28] <rhelik> jonnnnny: but imho, any Core 2 is "bitching" even the $175 model
[08:28] <Oggy> way off
[08:28] <LordX> the e6600 or e6700 are the way to go now
[08:28] <Star_Fire> yup. not bad for the price too
[08:28] <rhelik> Oggy: stop talking smack and JUST SAY THE PRICE
[08:28] <LordX> lol
[08:28] <rhelik> Oggy: no wonder you get booted from other channels, you just can't say what
[08:28] <Oggy> lol
[08:28] * Oggy hits the floor
[08:28] <deww> Star_Fire: it's a flood light, but it appears to be close to my more expensive
[08:29] <Oggy> 229 dollars
[08:29] <Oggy> you are off by a dollar rhelik
[08:29] <jonnnnny> what sort of benefits would i notice from upgrading my processor, i have 2
[08:29] <rhelik> Oggy: troll
[08:29] <LordX> you will get WAY more processing power
[08:29] <Oggy> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115005
[08:29] <LordX> by upgrading
[08:29] <rhelik> ignore is the best feature in mirc
[08:29] <deww> jonnnnny: you'd repalce your whole board.. it'll basically be a lot faster
[08:30] <rhelik> Enc0re: if you look, the E6400 Core 2 did in 1:54 what the 3800 took 2:43 E
[08:30] <barabas> i will do, once it's finished scanning
[08:30] <Oggy> depending on the processor that you have right now Johnny
[08:30] <rhelik> Enc0re: so you're talking almost twice as fast for the same exact price
[08:30] <Oggy> you can probably upgrade to an HT processor or prescott
[08:31] <rhelik> Enc0re: hence you see why I'm so militant on telling you don't waste your mo
[08:31] <bassgoon> rhelik, twice as fast?
[08:31] <Oggy> Amd cpus are the best bang for the buck now
[08:31] <bassgoon> you're doing apple math!
[08:31] <rhelik> cute, but I said ALMOST
[08:31] <bassgoon> .7 cubic inches is "almost 50% smaller" than 1 cubic inch
[08:31] <Enc0re`> i only have around $300 to spend on a mobo/cpu
[08:31] <bassgoon> so 70 is almost 50!
[08:31] <barabas> trend scanning is going very slow....
[08:31] <bassgoon> wow!
[08:31] <rhelik> bassgoon: I don't deny Apply's math is, interesting
[08:31] <Oggy> barabas
[08:32] <barabas> mmm
[08:32] <Oggy> just let it keep scanning
[08:32] <barabas> i will
[08:32] <bassgoon> btw, I'm referring to the new ipod shuffle
[08:32] <rhelik> barabas: online scanning is always way slower than local scanning, hence why
[08:32] <bassgoon> which is "nearly half the size" of the old
[08:32] <Oggy> 300 bux nice dual core rig
[08:32] <barabas> LOL
[08:32] <barabas> something like that
[08:32] <pimpwell> any place to get a dell laptop power cord
[08:32] <pimpwell> besides online
[08:32] <rhelik> Enc0re: and what part of Core 2 costing the same can't you understand? :)
[08:32] <rhelik> Enc0re: the E6300 is cheaper and faster than the AMD 3800
[08:32] <estranger> pimpwell: i had ot get one for my older dlel laptop... and i could only f
[08:33] <Enc0re`> not from what im seeing
[08:33] <Enc0re`> the core2 is 250+
[08:33] <rhelik> Enc0re: then you aren't looking in the right places... pricewatch.com
[08:33] <Oggy> Encore ignore rhelik , cause he isnt mentioning the expensive ddr2 ram that yo
[08:33] <bizinichi> in quicken, what does 'expense is discretionary/not discretionary' mean?
[08:33] <Oggy> with 300 bux you can get a nice stable pcie system
[08:34] <Oggy> and Amd dual core
[08:34] <rhelik> Enc0re: http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboard_combos/992801-1.htm
[08:34] <Oggy> with an onboard memory controller
[08:34] <rhelik> Enc0re: and if you wait another 2 months even more mobos will be out and it
[08:35] <Oggy> 250 dollars for a mobo!!
[08:35] <Oggy> hahaha
[08:35] <Oggy> lol
[08:35] <Oggy> no way
[08:35] <Oggy> games arent even out to take advantage of todays hardware
[08:35] <Oggy> why get something now you dont even need
[08:35] <rhelik> Enc0re`: and as I said last time, if you plan to run Vista oneday, and you w
[08:37] <Treval> I had a course today of IT-organisation/Marketing(company processes) and I d
[08:37] <Oggy> Vista
[08:37] <Oggy> oh come on rhelik
[08:37] <Oggy> we are talking a long time from now
[08:37] <pimpwell> estranger
[08:37] <pimpwell> how much it cost
[08:37] <rhelik> Treval: imho college courses can be way too idealistic
[08:38] <Treval> Meaning?
[08:38] <Treval> Not realistic? >P
[08:38] <rhelik> they're full of sh.t
[08:38] <Treval> lol
[08:38] <rhelik> exactly
[08:38] <Treval> Meh..I just need to have insight in it...
[08:38] <rhelik> companies will do whatever works, most shops won't have any organized setup
[08:39] <rhelik> if you're looking into this process from a programming side, perhaps you cou
[08:39] <rhelik> it's a bit off subject, but it's the actual work that your teacher is beat a
[08:39] <Treval> I'm looking at it from the purely structural side.. uh.. hm .. well, from th
[08:39] <VarmVafel> Regarding the stability of a frequency in a crystal oscillator, how do I
[08:39] <Oggy> hrrrmf
[08:39] <Oggy> :)
[08:40] <rhelik> Treval: this might be a good resource http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?biz
[08:40] <Treval> Alrighto thanks man.
[08:40] * Treval notes
[08:40] <rhelik> Treval: pretty much only the good ppl work there, no bs'ers
[08:40] <rhelik> heck I should be shot for pasting that to an irc'er :P
[08:40] <Anthraxus> Damn I'm having a hard time waiting for AMD's answer to Core2
[08:41] <deww> they probably wont have one soon
[08:41] <Anthraxus> I think I'm going to bail on AMD and get an E4300
[08:41] <Oggy> I second that rhelik
[08:41] <Oggy> hehe
[08:41] <rhelik> Anthraxus: because they don't have one
[08:41] <deww> why wait? just jump on tbe current hot cpu band wagon like everyone instead of
[08:41] <rhelik> Anthraxus: they don't even have something functional to show off "behind the
[08:41] <Anthraxus> I know... sucks, b/c I don't wanna stick with Intel if AMD releases too l
[08:41] <Anthraxus> Well when the 65nm comes out... it should get them in the right direction
[08:41] <rhelik> Anthraxus: you have to realize, Core 2 isn't just incrimentally better, it's
[08:41] <rhelik> iow the best jump we've had in 10-12yrs
[08:42] <rhelik> best/biggest
[08:42] <Oggy> yeah but it isnt needed now
[08:42] <Anthraxus> I don't see how intel suddenly developed this new advancement so fast, an
[08:42] <Oggy> Amd has plenty of cpu processing power
[08:42] <deww> they didn't suddenly develop it
[08:42] <Anthraxus> rhelik= yes I realise this, I'm not a knub
[08:42] <Oggy> work on a pcie system with a good dx10 card
[08:42] <deww> they've bene working on it
[08:42] <Anthraxus> :-p
[08:42] <Oggy> thats the way to go
[08:43] <Anthraxus> And technically the Amd Architecture is innately faster /clock
[08:43] <rhelik> Anthraxus: why care about what AMD is going to do, that's like seeing the mo
[08:43] <Oggy> If you go with a Core 2 machine , you are basically spending money t6hat you c
[08:43] <Anthraxus> But the shared L2 is a huge advance for core2
[08:44] <rhelik> Anthraxus: Intel whooped AMD in a mere couple months, what took AMD 5yrs to
[08:44] <barabas> are alienware any good ?
[08:44] <rhelik> AMD is whooped, and there's no way they're getting back a better cpu anytime
[08:44] <rhelik> barabas: yes but very expensive
[08:44] <Oggy> bah there is dual socket
[08:44] <Anthraxus> oggy= I'll be getting a 15-20% performance advantage from the start. then
[08:45] <Oggy> thats nonsense if you are gaming
[08:45] <rhelik> Anthraxus: actually the faster the speed, at the lower the clock, is the sig
[08:45] <Enc0re`> all that shit is overkill
[08:45] <Enc0re`> in my opinion
[08:45] <rhelik> Anthraxus: increasing clock speed is a poor way to improve perf
[08:45] <Treval> What does this mean: Closing Link: Treval by newyork.ny.us.undernet.org (Sor
[08:45] <Anthraxus> Wrong. You'd better check the reviews... even the low end E6300/64oo's ru
[08:46] <rhelik> Anthraxus: considering not all cores are constantly processing, shared cache
[08:46] <Anthraxus> yeah I know
[08:46] <Anthraxus> It's a change in methodology
[08:46] <rhelik> Anthraxus: 2mb may be too little, I don't know, but when you have a good poo
[08:46] <Anthraxus> It's not that little actually
[08:46] <rhelik> Anthraxus: I'd rather have 3mb of shared than 4mb dedicated (2mb per cpu)
[08:47] <Anthraxus> The diff's shown are meager. No more than 10% performance... 10% is nothi
[08:47] <rhelik> I'd rather spend the extra $ on faster shared cache, then more dedicated cac
[08:47] <Enc0re`> tell me what game right now actually requires such processing power of thos
[08:47] <swazo> i have a script that reads a comma seperated file, i make a test seperated fi
[08:47] <rhelik> swazo: you need quotes around each value.. "test","test2"
[08:47] <Anthraxus> E4300 Vs the E6400 is very little in regard to the 2M Vs 4M.
[08:47] <swazo> oh, ok. ill try that
[08:48] <Anthraxus> Besides, I've went over this... the E4300 has the highest OC'ing potentia
[08:49] <Oggy> anyone going to answer EnC0re's question?
[08:50] <rhelik> Anthraxus: yea, I didn't know about the 4300 until you mentioned it, I'm not
[08:50] <deww> Enc0re: many non-gamers don't need more than a pentium classic. why bother to
[08:50] <rhelik> Anthraxus: I'm waiting for the mobos to mature & become more common, and the
[08:50] <Anthraxus> 2M@1.8Ghz/200FSB/9x Vs 4M/2.13Ghz/266FSB/7x
[08:50] <Anthraxus> Yeah I'm waiting on the mobo's... b/c the release price will be outrageou
[08:50] <Anthraxus> I'm not paying $200+ for a damn sys board.
[08:50] <Anthraxus> no way.
[08:51] <rhelik> Enc0re: you're setting here looking at (almost) 4ghz and now bitching about
[08:51] <Anthraxus> And that's how they are going to price them, based off the highest FSB/St
[08:51] <rhelik> Enc0re: for starters, you need to realize what's going on when you play a ga
[08:52] <Anthraxus> Heh more than that if you haven't tweaked your background services
[08:52] <rhelik> Enc0re: a good multicore cpu reaps huge benefits in these situations, even i
[08:52] <Star_Fire> encore: computers can do more than just play games.
[08:52] <Anthraxus> All kinds of crap eating ram and cycles
[08:52] <Anthraxus> fug work time.
[08:52] <Oggy> =)
[08:52] <Anthraxus> You'd better be hear for a bit rhelik, we've got more to debate!
[08:52] <rhelik> Enc0re: and considering Windows is getting more and more services, you'll wa
[08:52] <Enc0re`> i just dont understand why u feel my choice of processor for my new system
[08:53] <rhelik> Anthraxus: we have nothing to debate, we're in total agreement :)
[08:53] <Enc0re`> *would
[08:53] <Anthraxus> rhelik= :-D
[08:53] <rhelik> it's Enc0re who can't admit Intel has a superior cpu, he's been brainwashed
[08:53] <Anthraxus> Yeah... and I'm THE AMD fan...
[08:53] <Oggy> oh stfu rhelik
[08:53] <rhelik> Enc0re: you keep ignore the fact that the core 2 is FASTER and CHEAPER
[08:53] <Anthraxus> But I know a lame horse when I see it
[08:53] <Oggy> he said he has 300 bux
[08:53] <rhelik> Anthraxus: so am I, I still run my XP1700+
[08:53] <Enc0re`> its not cheaper
[08:53] <deww> Enc0re: no. get what you want. :-)
[08:54] <rhelik> Enc0re: I justp pasted a mobo/core2/fan setup for $295
[08:54] <Anthraxus> I'm still running an OC'd 1600+@1.75
[08:54] <Oggy> fan setup?
[08:54] <Oggy> lol
[08:54] <Oggy> wtf
[08:54] <rhelik> Enc0re: how about you stop wasting our time, buy your overpriced, underspeed
[08:54] <rhelik> oh and overheating and overpower using
[08:54] <Oggy> EnC0re the setup you chose is fine
[08:54] <rhelik> and in 2yrs, you'll think you were an idiot for "buying this crappy AMD chip
[08:54] <Anthraxus> Soon as the conroe E4300 is released, AMD WILL have to drop the price of
[08:55] <Anthraxus> Haha it's going to be great for AMD folks
[08:55] <Oggy> 2 YEARS
[08:55] <Oggy> dam hehe
[08:55] <Oggy> thats pretty good
[08:55] <Anthraxus> They'll get nice chips for way cheap
[08:55] <deww> in 2 years you'll bitch about your crappy <insert brand> cpu
[08:55] <rhelik> Anthraxus: yea, that will be the last straw, AMD won't be able to compete
[08:55] <rhelik> deww: true, but it will look extra crappy when he could of had the Core 2 fo
[08:55] <Anthraxus> I'm so excited! I haven't even thought about an Intel box in 8yrs!
[08:55] <Enc0re`> find me a processor at ncix.com or tigerdirect.ca that will will compare in
[08:56] <rhelik> Enc0re: I don't know where you went to school, but last I checked $295 doesn
[08:56] <Oggy> its a waste in my opinion
[08:56] <Enc0re`> cuz everything ive found is 250+
[08:56] <rhelik> Enc0re: it must have been FanBoy Math 101
[08:56] <Anthraxus> I hate it... but the OC'ing and money I'll save!
[08:56] <Oggy> you can spend the extra on a nice video card
[08:56] <rhelik> Enc0re: I pasted you a CPU that costs $175 and a mobo setup for $295, so stf
[08:56] <Enc0re`> im in canada
[08:56] <Oggy> 295 dollars for a mobo
[08:56] <Oggy> heh no way
[08:56] <rhelik> ignore is a beautifull feature
[08:57] <deww> no need to keep telling us about it
[08:57] <rhelik> Anthraxus: I'm not a big OC fan either, but the 4300 is tempting, I can't wa
[08:57] <deww> when you ignore someone, just do it. no need to announce to whole world.
[08:57] <rhelik> deww: there's a reason I say it :)
[08:57] <Anthraxus> Hell, the AMD 3600 X2 OC's to 5000+ (2.6ghz) and outperforms it in 90% of
[08:57] <Anthraxus> :-( ----> :-D
[08:57] <rhelik> k
[08:58] <rhelik> Anthraxus: even after AMD's current price drop, their chips still aren't mor
[08:58] <rhelik> imho AMD would have to cut their prices in half before I would consider buyi
[08:58] <rhelik> and even then, I really don't want to power/heat usage anymore, I'd suck it
[09:00] <Oggy> I wouldnt
[09:00] <Oggy> id save and get a nice gaming card
[09:00] <Tone-UofA> I'm having mucho difficulty in connecting to open wireless networks.
[09:00] <Oggy> put the money you save with and amd cpu towards a nice video card pcie video c
[09:00] <Tone-UofA> It tries to connect and then just goes back to the list of wireless netwo
[09:01] <Anthraxus> well the 36-38xx chips are 65W so they are automatically in the low usage
[09:01] <Tone-UofA> I've looked thru all the settings and I can't find anything wrong. How do
[09:01] <Anthraxus> I'll wait and see.
[09:01] <kib> Tone-UofA: I don tknow much about wireless networks but maybe that open network
[09:01] <Tone-UofA> well this is the second one
[09:01] <kib> many wioreless networks requireyou signup first I think
[09:01] <Tone-UofA> see my rommate connects fine to the neighbor's open w-lan
[09:02] <kib> even if its free of charge they still require you to register before you can us
[09:02] <Tone-UofA> and now I'm at work and connect to the university's either
[09:02] <kib> your neighbor willingly lets people connect to his wireless lan?
[09:02] <Tone-UofA> not willingly, probably unknowiungly
[09:02] <Tone-UofA> you know how that goes
[09:02] <kib> or is this neighbor not smart enough to know how to protect their internet?
[09:02] <Tone-UofA> you got it
[09:03] <kib> well Iguess thats how it goes
[09:03] <LordX> anyone with wireless open should be taken advantage of
[09:03] <rhelik> Anthraxus: and considering that AMD chips are preferrable by the power users
[09:03] <kib> I suppose asking those who run the network for help is then out of the question
[09:03] <Tone-UofA> well in that case yes
[09:03] <Tone-UofA> but now that I'm at work and can't get on the univ. LAN either
[09:03] <Tone-UofA> I think it's my system
[09:03] <kib> sorry I guess I am just wasiting yor time as I know very little of wifi other t
[09:04] <Kugeln> anyone knows a site to which i can upload a picture and paste the url for ev
[09:04] <Kugeln> a good sit*
[09:04] <Kugeln> e
[09:04] <Tone-UofA> photobucket maybe
[09:04] <deww> imageshack.us
[09:04] <Oggy> imageshack works great
[09:05] <Star_Fire> Kug: http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/
[09:05] <rhelik> Kugeln: I'd say use http://www.flickr.com/
[09:06] <rhelik> it's the #1 photo site for a reason
[09:06] <Kugeln> thanks all, imageshack is perfect
[09:06] <Oggy> Well enough of all this Cpu mumbo jumbo , I have the best , Cpu of them all ,
[09:06] <Darn> what's limit on how many firewire devices you can daisy chain?
[09:06] <Oggy95> CPU: Intel Pentium, 74.88 MHz, 0 KB (100% Load)
[09:06] <m|ike> Is there a way to make VLC stay on top
[09:06] <Darn> my system ran fine with 8 firewire drives daisy chain but whne I added the 9th
[09:07] <rhelik> Darn: you need a repeater
[09:07] <Kugeln> well, if i'm asking questions, i'm assuming people here play chess
[09:07] * Kugeln http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chessmho4.jpg
[09:07] <rhelik> Darn: ideally you should be able to wire upto 16 without a repeater, obviosl
[09:07] * __t3rr4s is now known as _t3rr4s
[09:08] <Tone-UofA> damn someone has 10 firewire drives
[09:08] <Kugeln> the best move would be the roock on A4 to V4
[09:08] <Kugeln> C4
[09:08] <Kugeln> its checkmate, but chessmaster wouldnt accept it
[09:08] <rhelik> Tone-UofA: techncially you can go on forever, well at least upto 256 I'm sur
[09:08] <Kugeln> am i wrong?
[09:08] <Oggy> firewire is slow
[09:08] <Kugeln> or is chessmaster?
[09:09] <rhelik> where the true limit lies is within your hardware, drivers and OS, there's n
[09:09] <rhelik> Kugeln: you know there is a #chess channel
[09:09] <LordX> lol
[09:09] <Tone-UofA> this is so gay - I ought to be able to get on this wireless LAN
[09:10] <Kugeln> rhelik, with 14 people, no one answering
[09:10] <Kugeln> nm, ill ask someone else
[09:10] <Tone-UofA> idlers!
[09:10] <rhelik> Darn: I'm not sure about firewire, but generally speaking, a repeater needs
[09:11] <rhelik> Darn: if this is a PC, adding another firewire card is a cheaper solution, a
[09:11] <Darn> I'm wondering if its the diff srives
[09:11] <barabas> taking ages, this scan....
[09:11] <Darn> err drives
[09:11] <Darn> 8 are 300 gig and 9 and 10 are 500 gig
[09:11] <Darn> had no issues with the first 8
[09:11] <Oggy> barabas let it finish
[09:11] <Tone-UofA> wow
[09:11] <barabas> ok oggy
[09:12] <Darn> I added a second firewire card and it conflicted with the first one
[09:12] <Tone-UofA> so what if you hookup the 500 gigs as #7 and #8
[09:12] <Darn> that's why they are now daisychained
[09:12] <Tone-UofA> and put the other 300 giggers at #9 and #10
[09:12] <barabas> how much storage u got ?
[09:12] <Tone-UofA> does it crash then?
[09:12] <Darn> I could try that
[09:12] <Tone-UofA> that's 5 terabyte by my calculation
[09:12] <barabas> u got 5TB ?
[09:12] <Darn> no its like 3
[09:12] <Tone-UofA> oh yea duh
[09:12] <Tone-UofA> i can't multiply
[09:13] <Tone-UofA> 3.4
[09:13] <Tone-UofA> after formatting prolly 3 yea
[09:13] <barabas> what do you use all that space for?
[09:13] <barabas> i thot i had a lot with 1.3TB !
[09:13] <Tone-UofA> lots and LOTs of porn
[09:13] <barabas> yeah ?
[09:13] <Tone-UofA> lol
[09:14] <Darn> movies
[09:14] <Tone-UofA> I have like 3 40GB drives I need to get RID of
[09:14] <barabas> why dont you just get new porn off the net
[09:14] <barabas> theyre probably making porn faster than you can watch it
[09:14] <Darn> I like to keep everything I download
[09:15] <barabas> ocd?
[09:15] <LordX> yes
[09:15] <barabas> lol
[09:16] <LordX> yes they do
[09:16] <LordX> i lvoe it
[09:16] <LordX> can never be enough porn
[09:16] <LordX> wth
[09:16] <LordX> everyone died
[09:17] * SuperDude lives
[09:18] * P1aN3t either
[09:18] <LordX2> yo
[09:19] <Tone-UofA> porn is wrong
[09:19] <LordX2> porn is the BEST
[09:19] <barabas> what kind
[09:19] <LordX2> all kinds minus gay and beastiality
[09:20] <barabas> whats wrong with bestiality
[09:20] <LordX2> well with your mom its ok
[09:20] <LordX2> but anything else is bad
[09:20] <barabas> lol
[09:20] <barabas> shes not a beast
[09:20] <LordX2> heh
[09:20] <LordX2> that was the insult :P
[09:21] <barabas> seriosly tho
[09:21] <LordX2> fucking animals is sick
[09:21] <rhelik> Tone-UofA: so you only have 120gb of porn, bah, amatuer
[09:21] <LordX2> heh
[09:21] <rhelik> I got that much per week
[09:21] <barabas> is it ok if an animal fucks an animal ?
[09:21] <rhelik> ok ok, drop it
[09:21] <LordX2> only of the same species
[09:22] <barabas> what about interracial
[09:22] <LW> Lordx2 I think its time u found another play channel
[09:22] <rhelik> LordX2: I don't know, that pic of a racoon on the hunting dog puppy was pret
[09:22] <LW> u've been asked numerous times to keep it down
[09:23] <barabas> too much testosterone
[09:23] <barabas> HORSETOSTERONE !!!!
[09:23] <LW> keep it clean this is a help channel and young people do use it
[09:23] * phisher1_ is now known as phisher2
[09:23] <LordX> how do you think the young people got here???? SEX!!!!!
[09:24] <LW> don't be a smart ass
[09:24] <LW> its not becoming
[09:24] <LordX> its true though.... i am tired of the us culture and its fear of sex
[09:24] <barabas> you can get horse testosterone off the internet...makes your muscles big
[09:25] <barabas> lame boot
[09:25] <phisher2> wtf are you talking about
[09:25] <LW> he'll be back he's a ban jumper
[09:25] <Tone-UofA> so does anyone have any idea at all how i can troubleshoot this sireless
[09:25] <Tone-UofA> *wireless
[09:25] <LW> ;) smart man
[09:26] <phisher2> =)
[09:29] <phisher2> Tone-UofA: whats the problem
[09:29] <Tone-UofA> well i see the wireless lan, an open wireless lan, in the list of network
[09:30] <Tone-UofA> I click connect, and it sits there trying to connect "waiting for the net
[09:30] <Tone-UofA> done this from two different hotspots
[09:30] <Tone-UofA> one of which is just bleed over from my neighbor's house that's wide open
[09:32] <belter> update the wifi card driver, make sure your wifi toggle is on, and try both
[09:32] <KosheeN> are the SATA 3.0gb/s hard drives compatible with motherboards only having
[09:33] <belter> y
[09:33] <Tone-UofA> belter, im just using a windows driver
[09:33] <Tone-UofA> and windows wifi management
[09:33] <Tone-UofA> it's an old 802.11 card
[09:34] <belter> generic driver vs a real driver
[09:34] <Tone-UofA> well it's not generic per se
[09:34] <Tone-UofA> it has correctly identified the hardware
[09:35] <Tone-UofA> If I recall Orinico doesn't even have a real XP driver for this card - co
[09:35] <Tone-UofA> *Orinoco
[09:35] <phisher2> so you're having trouble connecting to a wireless network that isn't yours
[09:36] <KhaoZ> Is there a free graphics app I could use that's similar to maybe paintshop pr
[09:36] <Tone-UofA> phisher2 well yea, even though my rommate has no problem doing it on his
[09:36] <Tone-UofA> but I ALSO can't get on here at the university's official wireless LAN fo
[09:37] <Tone-UofA> so I think it's something wrong on my end
[09:37] <Star_Fire> Khaoz: tried http://www.gimp.org/windows/ ?
[09:37] <phisher2> has your wireless ever worked?
[09:37] <Tone-UofA> yea I believe so, well I know it has, but it's been quite a while since I
[09:37] <Star_Fire> I haven't used it, but ppl say it's as good as Photoshop
[09:38] <Tone-UofA> I had a wireless router hooked up to my regular wired network and router
[09:38] <KhaoZ> thanks star
[09:38] <KhaoZ> wasn't there one called paint
[09:39] <KhaoZ> not MS paint, but a free one a lot like photoshop
[09:39] <KhaoZ> called paint or something
[09:39] <Enc0re`> whats the difference between these 2 cards
[09:39] <Enc0re`> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18390&vpn=256-P2-N554-AX&manufac
[09:39] <Enc0re`> and
[09:39] <Star_Fire> khao: not that I know of
[09:39] <Enc0re`> http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2
[09:39] <Brettman> ive got a weird porblem.... im using windows media player and when i play
[09:39] <Brettman> anyone know how to fic that
[09:40] <Brettman> its just annoyying
[09:40] <o[THEOS]o> how do you know if your truck has coil springs or not?
[09:41] <o[THEOS]o> in the front suspension...
[09:49] <SuperDude> will FDISK format a 160GB HD fully? Or stop at 137?
[09:49] <Enc0re`> whats a good video card if im running on an LCD monitor
[09:50] <SuperDude> running on an LCD monitor? wow that's hard
[09:51] <SuperDude> i don't think it makes much difference
[09:55] <Tone-UofA> Enc0re that's cauge
[09:55] <Tone-UofA> it depends on if the *vauge
[09:55] <Tone-UofA> it depends on if it's a digital or analog LCD
[09:55] <Tone-UofA> flat panel whatever
[09:56] <Tone-UofA> if it's digital get a video card with digital output, if it's analog, any
[09:57] <coolwade> "The animals will hear!" bellowed the ear licking penguin as the awesomely
[09:58] <n909> coolwade: No
[09:58] <coolwade> r u horny
[10:02] <Schattenj> What is the name of the wide, thin creatures of the sea that camuflage th
[10:02] <Schattenj> They looks like organic pieces of paper or somesuch?
[10:02] * enemy is now known as Ardilles
[10:02] <Star_Fire> Sch: Flounders?
[10:02] * _enemy is now known as enemy
[10:03] <Schattenj> The ones Im thinking of are horizontally wide, not vertical wide.
[10:04] <LW> stingrays
[10:05] <Schattenj> Aha! Yes, thank you. :)
[10:05] <SuperDude> vertical wide = tall
[10:05] <SuperDude> or long
[10:10] * phisher1_ is now known as phisher2
[10:13] <makkalakk> Anyone know of a nub guide for installing mysql/php/phpBB2 onl inux ubunt
[10:16] <pimpwell> well
[10:16] <pimpwell> its quite simple regardless of what you use
[10:16] <pimpwell> read the installation guide
[10:16] <pimpwell> or...
[10:16] <pimpwell> go to irc.freenode.net for open source help
[10:16] <makkalakk> ty man
[10:17] <Zuu> anyone here have any experience in using Win 2003 Server Ent for workstation us
[10:17] <Zuu> just wanna here if anyone have anything good/bad to say about it (with reason o
[10:17] <Zuu> *ofcource
[10:20] <ReInVent> when you register for a domain, certain registration information is made p
[10:26] <Enc0re`> how much of a difference would the 7600GT and 7900GS be performance wise
[10:26] <zAlanM> about 5% if we go by numerical comparison
[10:27] <Enc0re`> apparently its like 33%
[10:27] <Enc0re`> im just wondering cuz the 7600GT is about $199 cdn and the 7900GS is around
[10:29] <Zuu> 33%.. i would go with the GT
[10:29] <ReInVent> since when did tigerdirect.com become a competitive seller? i remember the
[10:30] <canner> how do i see all the names of people in a channel thats invite only?
[10:30] <estranger> what linux device does linksys 10/100 cards use?
[10:31] <wundr> canner - you can try /names #channel but won't work if the channel is +p or +
[10:31] <estranger> tulip?
[10:31] <wundr> canner - err, if the users are +i, i mean.... which most clients set automati
[10:32] <wundr> canner - your best bet is to /knock #channel which will let the users in the
[10:33] <ReInVent> these IE alternatives like OPERA and firefox are really good!
[10:34] <ReInVent> IE6 isn't cutting it anymore, hours and hours of problematic browsing
[10:34] <gheatza> Hey, my display device doesn't recognize the TV-OUT
[10:34] <gheatza> I've got a WinFast A340
[10:35] <gheatza> It should be some kind of a NVIDIA gForce FX
[10:37] <apio_pio> vi e nessuno che parla italiano
[10:40] <makkalakk> im gonna run naked in the woods now.... cya
[10:43] <Zuu> no one have ever worked with Windoze server 2003 ?
[10:44] <zAlanM> lots of people have
[10:44] <zAlanM> it's not a workstation OS
[10:46] <pixil> I've worked with it...
[10:47] <chains> is there any easy way to tell if my boss is spying on me?
[10:48] <chains> i've remoted into my home desktop
[10:48] <chains> from work
[10:49] <Star_Fire> chains: if you get a phone call in the next few minutes, you'll know. =
[10:51] <userme> what does "bot virus" mean? my internet provider stop the connection becaus
[10:51] <userme> <gecko_x2> loool
[10:51] <Zuu> zAlanM, lots of ppl hae.. ofcource, but anyone here, is (ofcource) what im aski
[10:52] <Zuu> and ues i know its a server os, but thats what i'we got
[10:52] <Zuu> .. a license for
[10:53] <Zuu> well ok i have one for XP too.. but it borked because i wanted to use that one
[10:54] <Zuu> (actually it allready where borked on my workstation, but i assume it only got
[10:55] <Zuu> fuck it it has nothing to do with anything.. i just wanna know if Win Server 03
[10:55] <chains> not really
[10:55] <chains> not ideal
[10:56] <Enc0re`> can i use standard pc3200 ddr ram with an a64 3200
[10:56] <chains> depends on the motherboard
[10:56] <chains> but i don't see why not
[10:57] <Zuu> chains, and why is that?
[10:58] <TheDude2k> Hi, im getting this error with phpBB "Error: Unable to run the sql script
[10:58] <TheDude2k> any idea ?
[10:58] <chains> cuz pc3200 is very common
[10:58] <chains> and i have an a64 3000+ with pc3200 in it
[10:58] <OneLove> An Australian man under investigation for illegal spamming sent more than 2
[10:58] * knubbze is now known as analpal
[10:59] * analpal is now known as knubbze
[11:00] <Zuu> chains, not that, windoze thingie ofcource
[11:00] <Zuu> you said 'not really' mus be a reason for you to say so
[11:01] <Zuu> i assume you have worked with it
[11:02] <chains> where did i say "not really"
[11:02] <Zuu> [1309|19:55:27] <chains> not really
[11:03] <chains> oh
[11:03] <chains> sorry, thought you were the other guy
[11:03] <chains> asking about ram
[11:03] <Zuu> :)
[11:03] <chains> i have and still do work with win2k3
[11:03] <chains> it's a server OS
[11:03] <Zuu> oh really
[11:03] <chains> it's got more server related crap to deal with
[11:03] * rocko is now known as RocKo
[11:03] <Zuu> now dont tell me the obwious its void of my intelligense
[11:04] <Enc0re`> http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1
[11:04] <Enc0re`> this a good deal?
[11:04] <chains> heh
[11:04] <chains> Zuu, it's hard to really pinpoint the reason but it's not just 1
[11:04] <chains> games don't work as well
[11:05] * Zuu is not really a gaymer, more in the direction of developer
[11:05] <chains> all i can suggest is to try it out
[11:05] <chains> try it out and if you like it, good
[11:05] <Zuu> well if i install it i would be wasting my license :(
[11:05] <Zuu> ... if its bad
[11:05] <chains> if not, then you'll know why i didn't suggest it for a workstation
[11:06] <chains> how will you be wasting the license?
[11:06] <Zuu> assuming its like with Win XP it will be registered with the hardware its on
[11:06] <chains> depends on the licensing
[11:06] <Zuu> making it impossible to register it elsewhere
[11:06] <chains> if it's OEM or VLK
[11:07] <chains> so don't register it
[11:07] <Zuu> its not VLK for sure
[11:07] <chains> or activate it
[11:07] <chains> just try it out for a week or so
[11:07] <Tone-UofA> this is hopeless
[11:07] <Tone-UofA> maybe this 802.11b PC Card is just bad
[11:07] <Zuu> all i know is that its Windows Server 2003 Enterprice
[11:07] <chains> you should be fine
[11:07] <chains> just don't activate or register
[11:08] <chains> if prompted
[11:08] <Zuu> i cant test anything on a limited time
[11:08] <Zuu> like 30 days
[11:08] <Zuu> and it would be a waste of time too
[11:08] <Keyboard_> When I start my computer, I am given a list of operating systems, all wit
[11:08] <chains> Keyboard_, c:\boot.ini
[11:08] <Zuu> hmm.. mabbe i could just install it as second boot..
[11:08] <chains> edit that file
[11:08] <Keyboard_> chains, thanks.
[11:08] <Zuu> think ill do that
[11:09] <chains> np
[11:09] <Zuu> well thanks for trying at least chains :)
[11:09] <chains> heh
[11:10] <chains> i don't see what difference it will do dual booting it
[11:11] <Zuu> the difference of me not having to reinstall all this usefull stuff i got, if i
[11:11] <chains> could do a vmware install
[11:11] <chains> or virtual pc
[11:11] <Zuu> no
[11:11] <Zuu> too bad performance
[11:11] <Zuu> wouldnt give me a realistic picture
[11:12] <chains> aight
[11:12] <chains> well good luck
[11:12] <Zuu> any os is bad in virtualization
[11:12] <Zuu> thanks
[11:12] <chains> not linux
[11:12] <chains> :)
[11:12] <chains> linux works great for me
[11:12] <Zuu> linus is just not good in general
[11:12] <chains> depends on what resources you have
[11:13] <chains> why do you say that?
[11:13] <Zuu> linux is good if your time has no value
[11:13] <Zuu> if thats answer enough :)
[11:15] <chains> heh
[11:15] <Zuu> (actually running Suse 10.1 in dualboot on notebook)
[11:15] <chains> no, linux is good if you like alternatives vastly different from windows
[11:15] <chains> a commercial pig
[11:15] <chains> in more ways than one
[11:15] <Zuu> and its not too often i boot into it, because i usually dont stay long enough t
[11:16] <Zuu> but i may admit that when it works you get really REALLY happy
[11:16] <books> where can i find an eatx power supply?
[11:16] <books> whats the diff between atx and eatx?
[11:16] <Zuu> but not because the way it work, merely because it took you 2 weeks to make it
[11:17] <Zuu> and thats just not something for me :)
[11:17] <chains> i like some of the eye candy that is offered with it
[11:17] <Zuu> indeed, me too
[11:17] <chains> and some of the features that come default
[11:17] <Enc0re`> anyone interested in some hardware AMD Athlon XP 2100+ , Asus A7N8X Deluxe
[11:17] <chains> Zuu, you should try installing ubuntu on your notebook
[11:17] <Zuu> xgl + comiz really is something.. its just not worth the hazzle
[11:18] <chains> hassle?
[11:18] <chains> i got it running fine
[11:18] <chains> and i'm no linux guru by far
[11:18] <Zuu> me too.. just took 2 weeks to do so
[11:18] <chains> heh
[11:18] <chains> was easy with ubunutu
[11:18] <Zuu> mostly because if missing gfx drivers
[11:18] <chains> ubuntu*
[11:18] <Zuu> hehe
[11:19] <chains> you just say what you want and it'll tell you all the dependencies you'll ne
[11:19] <chains> and it will automatically get everything you need and install it for you
[11:19] <Zuu> yes ino
[11:19] <Zuu> power of apt
[11:19] <Zuu> too bad suse got that rpm fucker
[11:20] <chains> it's actually Synaptics
[11:20] <chains> and Adept
[11:20] <Zuu> its not near as smart
[11:20] <chains> the gui package installers
[11:20] <chains> yah, suse uses Yast2
[11:20] <chains> or some shit like that
[11:20] <Zuu> yep
[11:20] <Zuu> but usually it messes up because zen got a finder into the picture
[11:21] <Zuu> *finger
[11:21] <Zuu> so one would want to install 'smart' (a package manager) to use instead of yast
[11:22] <pixil> 1.) There's no reason you can't use apt in SuSE. 2.) There's nothing wrong
[11:23] <Zuu> and 3 = 3
[11:23] <books> anoyn help me out?
[11:23] <books> eatx v atx?
[11:23] <pixil> 3.) The only REAL flaw to rpm is the fact that people mix package based syst
[11:23] <pixil> And that's the case with ANY package system.
[11:23] <AbbasJin> my windows xp sp2 regular theme
[11:23] <AbbasJin> just suddently changed into windows classic mode
[11:24] <AbbasJin> i had to restart my pc ..
[11:24] <AbbasJin> anybody know why this happened?
[11:24] <Zuu> hehe
[11:24] <Zuu> AbbasJin, what did you do just before it happened ?
[11:27] <Alan66> hi all
[11:27] <AbbasJin> well ..i connected to the internet via my cell
[11:27] <AbbasJin> and the cell is right beside my CRT monitor
[11:27] <AbbasJin> so my monitor started flickering badly
[11:27] <Alan66> anyone recommend a good remote access software other than pc anywhere?
[11:27] <AbbasJin> but i dont think if that has anythihng to do with htat
[11:27] <Zuu> Alan66, ultra vnc
[11:28] <Zuu> AbbasJin, that would be highly unlikely
[11:28] <GooSul
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