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Session Start: Wed Jul 30 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:00] <Nutter> JudgeFMJ: what's the position you're interviewing for?
[00:00] <JudgeFMJ> Nutter, internet systems specialist
[00:00] <Nutter> is that another name for network admin?
[00:00] <katya^> porn systems specialist
[00:00] <Nutter> haha
[00:01] <JudgeFMJ> Nutter, probably, description talks about LAMP and bind
[00:02] <katya^> what is LAMP
[00:02] <Nutter> Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP
[00:02] <katya^> thats when network admins rub things hoping genies come out to beat hackers
[00:02] <Cryovat> Damn you Nutter
[00:03] <JudgeFMJ> or Python!
[00:03] <Cryovat> Almost had it typed out
[00:03] <Nutter> or Perl! :P
[00:03] <JudgeFMJ> boo
[00:03] <Nutter> hehe
[00:03] <JudgeFMJ> jk
[00:03] <katya^> python sucks
[00:03] * Cryovat goes back to coding asp.net :P
[00:03] * JudgeFMJ sends the pythons after katya^
[00:03] <JudgeFMJ> WATCHA GONNA DO
[00:03] <JudgeFMJ> WHEN THE 24 INCH PYTHONS RUN WILD ON YOU
[00:04] <Nutter> I've never really looked into Python, purely based on the fact that whitespa
[00:04] <katya^> uh
[00:04] <katya^> no pythons plz
[00:05] <fydo> python is pretty awesome
[00:05] <katya^> i am a fearly nazi-killing adventurer but
[00:05] <katya^> i fear snakes
[00:05] <katya^> 0,0
[00:05] <katya^> fearless*
[00:05] <katya^> no python totally sucks
[00:05] <katya^> its like the worst language ever
[00:05] <katya^> honestly
[00:06] <JudgeFMJ> languages are a means to an end where noone ever asks for directions
[00:07] <fydo> lol
[00:09] <Nutter> and Visual Assist is like a GPS
[00:09] <Nutter> :P
[00:10] <kermit`> so whats so bad about python? just curious ;)
[00:10] <katya^> look at some python code
[00:10] <katya^> but apart from being ugly
[00:10] <katya^> its dynamically typed
[00:10] <katya^> which sucks
[00:11] <crashovrd> dynamically typed == void*
[00:11] <katya^> plus it provides all the libc functionality, but mangles it
[00:11] <katya^> and the documentation sucks
[00:11] <katya^> so its useless
[00:11] <katya^> lol
[00:11] <katya^> USELESS
[00:11] <katya^> and
[00:11] <katya^> as is the case with MS languages (and yes i know python isnt MS)
[00:11] <katya^> they keep changing the standard
[00:11] <katya^> too frequently
[00:11] <fydo> ugly? if there's one advantage to whitespace with meaning, it's that it forces
[00:11] <katya^> uh
[00:11] <katya^> no
[00:12] <katya^> all python code i have looke at is
[00:12] <katya^> unfuckingreadable
[00:12] <kermit`> fydo: indeed, just a personal oppinion though
[00:12] <fydo> perhaps you're looking in the wrong places
[00:12] <kermit`> katya^: try to look at some code you didn't write ;D j/k :)
[00:12] <katya^> i dont write python
[00:12] <katya^> ever
[00:12] <katya^> its horrible
[00:12] <fydo> katya^: how can you form an opinion on something without trying it?
[00:12] <katya^> C is still the one true language for everything except embedded and web deve
[00:13] <katya^> when something better comes along I'll look into it
[00:13] <katya^> and by embedded i mean like old embedded
[00:13] <katya^> not new embedded where C is just fine
[00:13] <kermit`> katya^: well, they changed the C standard too, they just don't set new stan
[00:13] <katya^> and is therefore the 1 true language
[00:13] <katya^> exactly
[00:13] <katya^> not very frequently
[00:13] <katya^> being the keyword
[00:13] <katya^> :)
[00:13] <katya^> and still backwards compatible
[00:14] <kermit`> i'm not sure but i suppose the new stanrads has backward compatibility
[00:14] <crashovrd> your mom is backwards compatible
[00:14] <kermit`> crashovrd: :D
[00:14] <katya^> lets ban crashovrd
[00:14] <katya^> hes stupid
[00:14] <fydo> kermit`: if it isn't, conversion scripts are provided which work most of the t
[00:14] <kermit`> fydo: ah :)
[00:15] <fydo> anyways
[00:15] <fydo> katya^: you should sign up for pyweek, it's a great language for prototyping g
[00:15] <fydo> http://www.pyweek.org
[00:15] <katya^> python is stupid
[00:15] <kermit`> IronPython seems quite kool :)
[00:16] <katya^> and everything to do with python is stupid
[00:16] <fydo> lol, ok then
[00:16] <katya^> honestly people should stop writing dynamically typed languages, or at least
[00:16] <kermit`> katya^: jeje, that's your personal oppinion ;)
[00:16] <katya^> whitespace-counts languages are moronic
[00:16] <katya^> makefiles are excused because make is old as fuck
[00:16] <kermit`> dynamic typing is not really a problem if you design for it, it should howe
[00:17] <fydo> personally, i enjoy not having to screw around with brackets and such
[00:17] <katya^> brackets make it more readable
[00:17] <kermit`> fydo: vim + py <3
[00:17] <katya^> python can seriously diaf
[00:17] <katya^> seriously
[00:17] <katya^> SERIOUSLKY
[00:17] <katya^> just
[00:17] <katya^> diaf
[00:17] <katya^> i mean it
[00:17] <fydo> uh huh
[00:17] <katya^> im going to bed
[00:18] <katya^> im a bit drunk
[00:18] <katya^> bye
[00:18] <fydo> you're going to set a scripting language on fire, so it dies?
[00:18] <fydo> gg
[00:27] <aav_> rowdy katya^
[00:27] <fydo> hehe
[00:28] * aav_ is now known as aav
[00:28] <Nutter> haha, and on the subject of linux... http://xkcd.com/456/
[00:30] <fydo> haha
[02:02] * [cube3_] is now known as [[cube3]]
[03:50] <tomalak> would someone kindly do a log search for *<tomalak>*rss* from this ch
[03:51] <katya^> does xchat searches have regex?
[03:51] <katya^> guess not
[03:51] <tomalak> dunno
[03:51] <katya^> just do a grep on logs
[03:51] <katya^> :p
[03:52] <tomalak> I once went on, somewhere, about a thunderbird rss bug and my solution to i
[03:52] <Rangar> tomalak: Swish maintains a complete log - ask him for url
[03:54] <tomalak> oh that's a good point
[03:55] <tomalak> man, Art rapes the channel stats
[03:56] <tomalak> hmm, jjones is a logging bot
[03:56] <tomalak> http://www.irc-chat-logs.com/channel_logs/gamedev/2008-07-29
[03:57] <Swish> how do you know it's jJones?
[03:58] <tomalak> [10:38] -neobleed_- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no
[03:58] <Swish> oh, duh :)
[03:58] <tomalak> ^_^
[03:58] <Swish> i've seen that /notice so much I just don't read it anymore :)
[03:58] <tomalak> likewise; it took me a moment
[03:58] <tomalak> so, about this fabled maintained log...
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Session Close: Wed Jul 30 19:59:11 2008