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Session Start: Sun Feb 10 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[07:09] <realtime> this channel is quite quiet for an average of 70 people :-)
[07:10] <ht7z> this chan used to be public, so everyone came here so their /whois would look
[07:10] <ht7z> there's your reason why it's so quiet ;)
[07:10] <capisce> crap
[07:10] <capisce> *me leaves*
[07:10] <echelon3> everyone came so their whois would look cool?
[07:10] <ht7z> echelon3, it was meant to be a joke.. :-)
[07:11] <echelon3> whats a joke?
[07:11] <ht7z> god
[07:11] <capisce> I came because of Swish
[07:11] <capisce> now don't read that the wrong way :(
[07:13] <echelon3> HEHE\
[07:13] <realtime> of course not. huhu. ;)
[07:15] <echelon3> hoho!
[07:16] <_kw> this channel seems to be steadily going downhill, even in the short time I've b
[07:16] <honkykong> file a complaint
[07:16] <honkykong> with the irc quality commission
[07:16] <echelon3> why _kw ?
[07:16] <capisce> I used to be here 5 years ago
[07:17] <capisce> haven't been here much lately
[07:18] <_kw> because the only people talking are people like honkykong
[07:18] <echelon3> HAHAH
[07:18] <echelon3> irc quality commission
[07:19] <realtime> I scrolled up to see the last conversations... two first things Ive found,
[07:19] <echelon3> ill be talking in here in about a month
[07:19] <echelon3> when i take my graphics course
[07:19] <realtime> s/gyu/guy
[07:19] <_kw> yep realtime
[07:19] <_kw> that about says it
[07:27] <honkykong> welcome to #penischat
[07:28] <honkykong> kw so what have you contributed to the chat lately?
[07:28] <honkykong> other than complaining
[07:29] <honkykong> i've helped someone with their texture clamping/mapping problem, showed o
[07:29] <honkykong> you've done... uh... dick
[07:30] <honkykong> so stfu if you dont like how i chat cause obviously i'm winning the inter
[07:30] <_kw> grow up.
[07:30] <honkykong> you're the one crying about how this channel isnt amusing you enough
[07:30] <honkykong> i mean i know this is internets
[07:30] <honkykong> and thus
[07:30] <honkykong> sers bizness
[07:31] <_kw> I'm not saying it's not amusing me enough, I'm saying it's full of retards talk
[07:31] <honkykong> but gdamn man if you want your money back you're gonna have to wait till
[07:31] <_kw> <honkykong> sers bizness
[07:31] <_kw> like that
[07:31] <honkykong> OH NOES
[07:31] <honkykong> lol
[07:31] <_kw> .
[07:31] <honkykong> good
[07:31] <honkykong> i hope it annoys you a lot
[07:31] <_kw> I'm not fussed
[07:32] <_kw> I'm just explaining WHY the channel is dying to others
[07:33] <_kw> you then start going into a kiddy fight to prove that I'm a doodyhead, and seem
[07:33] <honkykong> no one said its dieing
[07:33] <_kw> lots of people have recently
[07:33] <honkykong> someone said its quiet
[07:34] <honkykong> which sounds pretty normal for sunday morning at 10:30
[07:34] <_kw> but whatever dude, keep on doing what you're doing until you're really the last
[07:34] <honkykong> huhuhu
[07:34] <_kw> hurray for another irc meme
[07:34] <honkykong> so ok kw
[07:34] <_kw> congratulations, you won "the internets"
[07:35] <honkykong> what have you contributed
[07:35] <honkykong> to this chat
[07:35] <honkykong> ever
[07:35] <honkykong> i've never seen you say a goddamn thing
[07:35] <honkykong> other than this batch of whiney bullshit
[07:35] <honkykong> do you do any sort of game dev?
[07:35] <_kw> k, I'm done with this
[07:35] <_kw> enjoy
[07:35] <_kw> if anyone else needs me, privmsg me
[07:35] <honkykong> right cause if you keep on i'm gonan make you look like a fucking retard
[07:36] <honkykong> w00t
[07:37] <capisce> ah, the beauty of irc
[07:38] <honkykong> aye
[07:38] <honkykong> anyone going to that anon vs scientology thing?
[07:38] <capisce> when/where?
[07:38] <honkykong> got some friends trying to get me to go
[07:38] <honkykong> its in about an hour
[07:38] <honkykong> all over
[07:38] <honkykong> what city are you in?
[07:39] <capisce> aha, oslo
[07:39] <capisce> it's probably been
[07:39] <honkykong> oh
[07:39] <Cryovat> Do you want to meet the worse parts of 4chan?
[07:39] <honkykong> yeah i was thinking america time
[07:39] <honkykong> Cryovat lol well not really but my friends are all pussies and i want to
[07:39] <capisce> as I said on another channel, why protest against scientology?
[07:39] <capisce> scientology seems to provide plenty of entertainment
[07:40] <honkykong> yeah i got nothing more against scientology than say, mormons, but whatev
[07:40] <honkykong> well scientologists got some funky beliefs
[07:40] <Cryovat> Well
[07:40] <Cryovat> Mormons don't brainwash people
[07:40] <honkykong> like that children have magical energy
[07:40] <capisce> yeah, so does the church of the flying spaghetti monster
[07:40] <honkykong> and you can extract that energy with sex
[07:40] <honkykong> or that we're all a bunch of brainwashed alien souls
[07:40] <honkykong> fleeing from some giant space monster named xenu
[07:41] <capisce> we need more entertaining religions like that
[07:41] <honkykong> hubbard spent most of his time on a boat with lots of young boys, getting
[07:42] <capisce> I don't see how it can be more harmful than certain other religions though
[07:42] <Cryovat> Scientology makes you distance yourself from your family and friends
[07:42] <Cryovat> They tell you they're evil
[07:43] <Cryovat> And they'll charge you progressively more to escalate in the system
[07:43] <capisce> just like any other cult then
[07:43] <Cryovat> It is a cult
[07:43] <Cryovat> But it's a huge influental cult
[07:43] <Cryovat> That's why it's bad
[07:43] <capisce> I've always wondered if Tom Cruise is just in it as a joke
[07:44] <capisce> I have a hard time taking scientology seriously
[07:44] <Cryovat> It sounds incredibly stupid
[07:44] <Cryovat> But when you slowly get reeled in, it's much harder to be sceptic
[07:44] <capisce> and demonstrating against something also gives it more credence, by saying
[07:45] <Cryovat> honkykong: Any page with reports from these flashmobs?
[07:45] <Swish> when wealthy men get into something that has fundraising potential....
[07:45] <Swish> gotta wonder how much of a joke that really is ;)
[07:45] <capisce> like the creationists that want to start a 'debate' against the theory of e
[07:45] <Swish> not to mention it being a neat little tax shelter
[07:45] <capisce> I can't say I know anyone who's connected to scientology though
[07:50] <Cryovat> http://digg.com/world_news/New_Zealand_Scientology_Raid
[07:50] <Cryovat> Hahaha
[07:50] <Cryovat> Sad
[07:53] * Daveman waves to Swishy
[07:54] * Swish waves :)
[07:55] <Daveman> :)
[08:23] <Ghaleon> werd up slaqrz
[08:23] <Cryovat> Wb Ghaleon
[08:23] <Cryovat> How was prison?
[08:24] <Ghaleon> prison is awesome
[08:24] <Ghaleon> they have tons of jewels
[08:24] <Decept404> sup Ghaleon
[08:24] <Ghaleon> hihi
[08:25] <Ghaleon> I thinx msn is bloxxd
[08:25] <Ghaleon> buncha haqrz :(
[08:25] <capisce> yo Ghaleon
[08:25] <Ghaleon> wtfhi
[08:25] <capisce> npbbq
[08:25] <Ghaleon> do not eats the airline phjewd
[08:25] <Ghaleon> it'z not for realz
[08:26] <Decept404> i may or may not have hit on some girl last night to the point of sleepin
[08:27] <Decept404> i have sunk so low without your guiding influence Ghaleon :(
[08:27] <Ghaleon> :O
[08:27] <Ghaleon> I am readies to not drink for a long time now
[08:27] <Ghaleon> almost every day I drank cachaca
[08:29] <Decept404> too much alcohol
[08:29] <Decept404> i'm hung over beyond belief
[08:29] <Ghaleon> what'd you do, hit up a frat party?
[08:29] <Decept404> haha
[08:30] <Decept404> i went to see this bartender i know, just for a drink. and it turned out
[08:30] <Decept404> and also steal bottles of cava from the bar
[08:30] <Decept404> and keep drinking at her apartment
[08:30] <Ghaleon> :O
[08:30] <Decept404> i learn something new about language every day! so many nuances
[08:30] <Ziggy-> :D
[08:30] <Ziggy-> kittyghal
[08:30] <Ghaleon> Ziggy-D
[08:30] <Ziggy-> where u been?
[08:31] <Ghaleon> braaaaaaaaasiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllllllllllllllll GOOOOOOOOOO
[08:31] <Ziggy-> nice :D
[08:31] <Ziggy-> you pick up brzlzn chikz?
[08:31] <Ziggy-> or wuz yer wife there? :)
[08:32] <Ziggy-> do they have xna in brazil?
[08:32] <Ziggy-> ;D
[08:32] <Decept404> i think i've got xna sound dev down
[08:32] <Decept404> not that it's that complex
[08:32] <Decept404> now i need to learn 3d junk. bleh.
[08:32] <capisce> what's up Decept404?
[08:33] <Decept404> hangover, sins of a solar empire
[08:33] <Decept404> thats about it
[08:33] <Ghaleon> my wife wuz thar, but so was all her kewt cousins
[08:33] <capisce> Ziggy Stardust
[08:33] <Ziggy-> :O
[08:33] <Ghaleon> I don't think XNA will run on Windows Hamster Edition
[08:33] <Decept404> windows crap edition
[08:33] <kermit`> Ghaleonz
[08:34] <Ghaleon> I saws Vista Starter Edition in reals lifes
[08:34] <Ghaleon> it was sad
[08:34] <Ziggy-> hehe
[08:34] <Ziggy-> i've only seen teh 1337 edition :(
[08:34] <Ziggy-> cums with msdn :D
[08:34] <Ghaleon> I saw lots of XP too
[08:34] <capisce> it's me, Rud0lf
[08:34] <Ziggy-> where is dancer and blitzon?
[08:35] <Ziggy-> and prancer
[08:35] <capisce> I don't know
[08:35] <Ziggy-> :(
[08:35] <Ziggy-> i've gotta get some news ready
[08:36] <Ziggy-> s/news/newds
[08:36] <capisce> [15:51] <Ziggy-> i wonder if barbie os will go 64 bit
[08:36] <Ziggy-> hehe
[08:36] <capisce> did it?
[08:36] <Ghaleon> Barbie OS is already 96bit
[08:37] <Ziggy-> yea they passed up 64 bit
[08:37] <Ziggy-> not wide enough to handle barbie
[08:38] <Ziggy-> someone needs to op birgitte
[08:39] * Ziggy- puts aav on the task :D
[08:39] <Ziggy-> aav0matic
[08:39] <Ziggy-> woot
[08:40] <aav> Ghaleon maybe?
[08:40] <Ziggy-> yesh
[08:40] <Ziggy-> ghal's arch nemesis isnt here
[08:40] <aav> ah
[08:40] <Ziggy-> hehe
[08:40] <aav> who that be
[08:40] <aav> rangar?
[08:40] <Ziggy-> i think its slade
[08:40] <Ziggy-> but i dont rem :)
[08:41] <aav> oh slade
[08:41] <aav> heh
[08:41] <Ziggy-> hehe
[08:41] <aav> yeah
[08:41] <aav> slade was very rigid about the whole being kicked thing
[08:41] <Ziggy-> gotta take a boot like a man
[08:41] <aav> slade's very rigid, enough said ;)
[08:41] <aav> heh
[08:42] <Ghaleon> too much viagra I guess
[08:42] <capisce> [16:47] <Ziggy-> like class ztexturelist : public zmanager<ztextur
[08:42] <aav_hlm> :P
[08:42] <Ziggy-> hehe
[08:42] <Ghaleon> zlongnames
[08:42] <Ziggy-> zwin
[08:42] <Ziggy-> :D
[08:42] <capisce> logs from 4 years ago <3
[08:42] <Ziggy-> thats nothin
[08:42] <Ghaleon> zreturntoamericasuxxd
[08:42] <Ziggy-> zibet :D
[08:43] <Ziggy-> i'm suprised they let you back
[08:43] <aav_hlm> wb Ghaleon
[08:43] <Ghaleon> Ziggy has logs of when dust started forming
[08:43] <aav_hlm> have you been crime lording in brazil?
[08:43] <Ghaleon> hihi aav
[08:43] <Ghaleon> yesc
[08:43] <Ghaleon> out in da favelas
[08:43] <Ziggy-> seen border
[08:43] <PitDroid> border was last seen on IRC 7 years, 319 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes and 10
[08:43] <capisce> seen MeshMan
[08:43] <PitDroid> MeshMan was last seen on IRC 51 days, 6 hours, 17 minutes and 42 seconds a
[08:43] <capisce> ooh
[08:43] <Ziggy-> seen borgus
[08:43] <PitDroid> borgus was last seen on IRC 5 years, 45 days, 23 hours, 12 minutes and 24
[08:44] <capisce> seen krissa
[08:44] <PitDroid> krissa was last seen on IRC 190 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 38 seconds
[08:44] <Ziggy-> border is the oldest that i can find ;)
[08:44] <capisce> seen slz
[08:44] <PitDroid> slz was last seen on IRC 40 days, 11 hours, 38 minutes and 44 seconds ago,
[08:44] <capisce> ah
[08:44] <Ghaleon> I missed my flight to seattle
[08:44] <Ghaleon> :(
[08:44] <Ziggy-> :O
[08:45] <Ziggy-> i hope you find it
[08:45] <Ziggy-> and return it
[08:45] <Ghaleon> I am on standby
[08:45] <capisce> don't say that Ghaleon, it was the flight that missed out
[08:45] <Ghaleon> huhu
[08:45] <aav_hlm> it was a truly bland/odorless flight
[08:47] <Ghaleon> got like 4 hours or smth to burnz
[08:50] <Ghaleon> forrealzgoodtime
[08:50] <Ziggy-> bomb
[08:50] <Ziggy-> jet
[08:51] * Ziggy- tests the airport firewall
[08:51] <Ziggy-> where u stuck at?
[08:53] <Ghaleon> atlanta
[08:53] <Ziggy-> icky
[08:53] <Ghaleon> arrived at one side, needed to depart at the other
[08:54] <Ghaleon> and go through baggage
[08:54] <Ghaleon> and go through customs
[08:54] <Ziggy-> last time i was at the atl airport they arrested a guy next to me
[08:54] <Ghaleon> wuz teh sux
[08:54] <Ziggy-> ;D
[08:54] <Ghaleon> lawlz
[08:54] <Ghaleon> they missed ;D
[08:54] <Ziggy-> yesh
[08:55] <Ghaleon> lots of webz is bloxxd
[08:55] <Ghaleon> no gmail, no orkut
[08:55] <Ziggy-> :O
[08:55] <Ziggy-> u got male
[08:55] <Ziggy-> i was almost arrested at an airport in rhode island
[08:56] <Ziggy-> i had a knife concealed in my baggage
[08:56] <Ziggy-> ;D
[08:56] <Ziggy-> didnt know it was there
[08:56] <Ziggy-> :P
[08:56] <Cryovat> smrt :P
[08:56] <Ziggy-> yea
[08:56] <Ghaleon> supar SMRT
[08:56] <Ghaleon> I normally carry a knifes
[08:56] <Ghaleon> I feel nekkid
[08:56] <Cryovat> There were a guy arrested at the airport in my city
[08:56] <Cryovat> Tried to wander on a plane with three ninja stars in his bag
[08:57] <Ziggy-> hehe
[08:57] <Ziggy-> goober
[09:02] <echelon3> hello how are we
[09:08] <Ghaleon> we are not amused
[09:10] <Ghaleon> I's so bored
[09:11] <Ghaleon> wish I had my mouse
[09:12] <Ghaleon> I already beated peggle
[09:12] <Ghaleon> someone should make zeggle
[09:12] * Ghaleon stares at ziggy
[09:12] <Ziggy-> :O
[09:24] <Ghaleon> need me some uppers
[09:24] <capisce> scientology spies at the anti-scientology demonstration in oslo: http://fli
[09:25] <Ghaleon> this trip is too long
[09:25] <Ghaleon> scientology spies on everyone, even scientology
[09:25] <capisce> are they spying on you atm?
[09:25] <Ghaleon> I thinx so
[09:25] <capisce> watch out
[09:25] <Ghaleon> would explain the droids
[09:26] <aav_hlm> look sir, droids
[09:27] <Ghaleon> they can't have gone far
[09:27] <aav_hlm> *bad CG cow goes MOO*
[09:28] <capisce> dinosaur and frog dancing, check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vr
[09:31] <Ghaleon> I'd rather lewk at kittahs
[09:31] <aav_hlm> kittah square dancing
[09:32] <Ghaleon> square kittah dancing
[09:34] <aav_hlm> i have a cubic kittah
[09:34] <aav_hlm> he's ten months and 5+ kg
[09:34] <aav_hlm> :-X
[09:35] <aav_hlm> thats 11 pounds
[09:35] <aav_hlm> need to send him to fat camp
[09:36] <capisce> say fat cat camp 10 times fast
[09:36] <aav_hlm> http://www.wheelybird.com/files/kitty_soldier.jpg
[09:36] <aav_hlm> he could use some discipline for his attitude too
[09:42] <Ghaleon> 5kg
[09:42] <aav_hlm> he's a pear with teef
[09:42] <Ziggy-> 5 mega gramz
[09:43] <Ghaleon> srsly, u feed him rox?
[09:43] <aav_hlm> food is his heroin
[09:43] <aav_hlm> he gulps down all the bowls, the other cats hardly get any
[09:43] <aav_hlm> he used to live on the street
[09:43] <aav_hlm> so he knows the ruff lyfe
[09:44] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[09:44] <aav_hlm> he's the Biggie Smalls of cats
[09:44] <Ghaleon> eye seez
[09:44] <Ghaleon> eatin while daeatinz gud
[09:44] <aav_hlm> yep
[09:45] <aav_hlm> show him food and he looks totally psycho
[09:45] <aav_hlm> but we really need to slim him dowjn
[09:45] <[Relic]> :)
[09:45] <aav_hlm> anyway, time for human cookin
[09:48] <Ghaleon> huuuuuumooooon
[09:48] <Ghaleon> yeah, time to go wait in line
[09:48] <[Relic]> don't forget the fava beans :)
[09:50] <Ghaleon> flava flave beans
[09:52] <[Relic]> :)
[10:04] <echelon3> how does a model typically move
[10:04] <echelon3> like its arms legs head etc
[10:04] <Ziggy-> with stuff
[10:07] <Ziggy-> typically you would use XNA
[10:08] <echelon3> ??
[10:08] <Ziggy-> creators.xna.com
[10:09] <echelon3> ?
[10:09] <echelon3> isnt XNA for consoles?
[10:09] <Ziggy-> its for pc and 360
[10:09] <echelon3> oh o
[10:09] <echelon3> so
[10:09] <echelon3> why would you use XNA ?
[10:09] <Ziggy-> cause its a billion times easier than c++/dx
[10:09] <Ziggy-> and if your game doesnt suck it will get picked up
[10:09] <echelon3> is it industry standard to use that ?
[10:10] <Ziggy-> its the latest tech
[10:10] <echelon3> industry standard though?
[10:10] <Ziggy-> it cant be a standard yet
[10:11] <Ziggy-> but if you're looking for a job then xna is where its at
[10:12] <Ziggy-> i love it, been using it for 1.5 years now
[10:12] <echelon3> why wouldnt you use XNA
[10:13] <Ziggy-> xna has the xna dependancies and runs on .net
[10:13] <Ziggy-> thats the only reason not to
[10:13] <echelon3> what does that mean
[10:13] <Ziggy-> it means your end users may have to install some stuff
[10:14] <Ziggy-> its awesome tho
[10:14] <Ziggy-> i dont see myself ever going back to c++/dx
[10:15] <Ziggy-> and i used that since dx 1.0
[10:15] <Ziggy-> "windows game sdk"
[10:15] <Ziggy-> ;D
[10:15] <Cryovat> Didn't that suck bad? :P
[10:15] <Ziggy-> yep
[10:15] <Ziggy-> but it was intreiging
[10:15] <Ziggy-> good old retained mode / immediate mode
[10:16] <Ziggy-> back then it took aboutt 5000 lines of code to do a hello world
[10:17] <Ziggy-> ;D
[10:17] <Ziggy-> and nobody shared any info with each other
[10:32] <echelon3> are scene graphs typically used?
[10:32] <honkykong> lol retained mode
[10:32] <echelon3> are scene graphs typically used?
[10:32] <echelon3> bah
[10:32] <echelon3> sorry
[10:33] <honkykong> better be
[10:33] <honkykong> cut off a finger
[10:33] <Ziggy-> depends on the complexity of the game
[10:33] <honkykong> not a pinky
[10:35] * Ziggy- cuts off his woman pleasing finger
[10:35] * honkykong notes that Ziggy- chose to retain his man pleasing fingers
[10:36] <Ziggy-> hehe
[10:36] <ht7z> haha :D
[10:36] * honkykong returns from protesting scientology
[10:36] <honkykong> i had two signss
[10:37] <honkykong> one said 'LULZ', and thats all
[10:37] <honkykong> the other said 'My Arms are Tired!'
[10:37] <Ziggy-> :D
[10:37] <honkykong> lol
[10:38] <honkykong> some guy got hit by a bus
[10:38] <honkykong> it was pretty funny
[10:38] <Ziggy-> haha
[10:38] <Ziggy-> thats awesome
[10:38] <honkykong> yes
[10:38] <Ziggy-> did he splatter?
[10:38] <Ziggy-> one of my wifes old bosses got hit by an 18 wheeler
[10:39] <Ziggy-> he stepped out in the road not looking first ;)
[10:39] <Ziggy-> splat!
[10:39] <honkykong> lol
[10:41] * forgerii is now known as forgey
[10:48] <honkykong> newp no splatter
[10:48] <honkykong> just sorta bounced a lil
[10:48] <Ziggy-> sucks
[10:48] <honkykong> yah i was all ready to use my special EMT skills
[10:49] <honkykong> but there wasnt much to do, he was fine
[10:49] <Ziggy-> :(
[10:49] <honkykong> thats what i emoted
[10:49] <Ziggy-> so why protest scientology?
[10:49] <honkykong> lulz
[10:49] <Ziggy-> isnt that the word of god himself?
[10:49] <honkykong> the word of cruise
[10:50] <Ziggy-> yea tom is close to god
[10:50] <Ziggy-> aka travolta
[10:50] <Ziggy-> tom is like jesus where travolta is god
[10:50] <Ziggy-> i'd love to sit in on a scientology session
[10:51] <Ziggy-> that would be hilareous
[10:51] <capisce> honkykong: here are the pictures from the Oslo protest: http://flickr.com/p
[10:51] <honkykong> lol nice
[10:51] <Sumo911> hey dudes
[10:52] <echelon3> looks really boring
[10:52] <Sumo911> those scienos tried to hire me to do 3d and animation work on some compound
[10:52] <Ziggy-> looks like nobody can spell correctly
[10:53] <echelon3> who cant spell?
[10:53] <Ziggy-> any of them
[10:53] <echelon3> oh
[10:53] <echelon3> i thought you meant us
[10:53] <Ziggy-> i do
[10:53] <Ziggy-> yall use some cryptic heiroglyphics
[10:54] <echelon3> ?
[10:54] <Ziggy-> hehe
[10:54] <Ziggy-> scientologi DEFER!
[10:54] <Ziggy-> i guess thats almost english
[10:54] <Ziggy-> ;)
[10:54] <Sumo911> yeah it's like another language
[10:54] <Ziggy-> ye
[10:54] <Ziggy-> a
[10:55] <capisce> well yes, it's norwegian :)
[10:55] <Sumo911> that's how you have to talk to those scienos
[10:55] <Ziggy-> hehe
[10:55] <Ziggy-> they only understand norwegian
[10:55] <Sumo911> lol
[10:55] <Ziggy-> "hey tom wassup?"
[10:55] <Ziggy-> "uuber poopin defer cootin"
[10:55] <Sumo911> ZENU!
[10:56] <capisce> Ziggy-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyCYh_vkSOY
[10:56] <Ziggy-> ;D
[10:56] <capisce> Ziggy-: swedish scientologists
[10:56] <Ziggy-> hehe
[10:56] <Ziggy-> for some reason this looks like a comedy :)
[10:57] <capisce> well yes, scientology is pretty entertaining
[10:57] <capisce> all that alien overlord xenu crap
[10:58] <Sumo911> I don't understand how they can be so deluded as to think that they are goi
[10:59] <Sumo911> I didn't realize at first these guys calling me were from the church of sci
[10:59] <honkykong> ya we should have some photos up of ours soon
[10:59] <Sumo911> then I'm like "who the hell are you"
[11:00] <Sumo911> then they let me know and so I looked it up and 2 or 3 people had died on t
[11:00] <Sumo911> the fence seems like it is meant to keep people in rather than out
[11:00] <honkykong> dude scientology is seriously wacked
[11:00] <honkykong> apparently they feel children contain magical energy
[11:01] <honkykong> and i think they feel you extract that energy with, uh, sex
[11:01] <Sumo911> 1 of the deaths was due to lack of medical attentention for some serious il
[11:01] <honkykong> thats the 'high teachings'
[11:02] <Sumo911> i never thought much of it at first since I lived in St. Petersberg Florida
[11:02] <Sumo911> but that used to be the main base of operations I guess
[11:02] <Sumo911> there were a bunch of people walking around dressed in these navy blue like
[11:02] <Errornix> you guys see all the protests and stuff going on today against scientology
[11:02] <Errornix> it's pretty badass
[11:02] <Sumo911> and they all just looked terrified
[11:02] <honkykong> yeah i just got back from one
[11:03] <Errornix> cool
[11:03] <honkykong> my sign read 'LULZ'
[11:03] <honkykong> on the other side it read 'My Arms are Tired!'
[11:03] <Sumo911> hehe
[11:03] <Errornix> there aren't any scientology churches around here so i cant go :(
[11:04] <honkykong> just stand on a random street corner waving your penis at traffic
[11:04] <honkykong> it'll 'count'
[11:04] <capisce> that didn't stop the single guy in japan who protested
[11:04] <honkykong> lol
[11:04] <Sumo911> just remember it's not like a normal church where you can go on a sunday mo
[11:04] <Sumo911> you're stuck there until you're "clear"
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[11:05] <Errornix> how do people believe shit about aliens that was written by a SCIENCE FICT
[11:06] <Sumo911> I'm pretty sure he was quoted as saying "If you really want to get rich, st
[11:08] <capisce> Sumo911: which means it's a cult, not a religion
[11:09] <Squee-D> capisce all religions are cults
[11:10] <Squee-D> and meanwhile there are [eopple like arthur c clarke and ray bradbury who e
[11:11] <Sumo911> well imho if you're a secretive group who hides in fenced in compounds and
[11:12] <Sumo911> nothing wrong with knowledge and logic but they way they go about it is an
[11:12] <Squee-D> well it does help
[11:12] <Squee-D> especially when it comes to peer review
[11:14] <Sumo911> this is a quote from scientologists.. "the study and handling of the spirit
[11:14] <Sumo911> but if they had all life in mind travolta wouldn't have 4 jets in his front
[11:15] <Cryovat> Scientologists are a special case
[11:15] <Cryovat> Believing in a "dead jew on stick" needs some disbelief
[11:15] <Cryovat> But to believe that an evil alien dictator came to earth and shoved hundred
[11:15] <Cryovat> Then shoving in some nukes for good measure
[11:15] <Cryovat> And that these souls still bother having around today.....
[11:16] <Cryovat> disbelief -> suspension of disbelief
[11:16] <Sumo911> wasn't it hitler who said that the bigger the lie the more people will beli
[11:16] <Sumo911> ?
[11:17] <Cryovat> Sure
[11:17] <Cryovat> But there are limits to everything
[11:18] <[Relic]> unless you can broadcast it on tv and put it in the national enquirer at th
[11:18] <Squee-D> Cryovat christianity isnt a dead jew on a stick
[11:18] <Squee-D> its a dead jew on a stick is in fact part of a trinity that makes up the cr
[11:18] <Cryovat> I know
[11:19] <Cryovat> Just a trolling generalization :P
[11:19] <Squee-D> as good as aliens in volcanoes :P
[11:19] <[Relic]> China Telecom spokeswoman Wang Yang
[11:19] <honkykong> difference is
[11:19] <honkykong> hubbard was a crappy scifi writer
[11:19] <honkykong> does not deserve to be in same sentence as bradbury
[11:20] <Squee-D> well said honky :)
[11:20] <Sumo911> amen ;)
[11:21] <Sumo911> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
[11:22] <Sumo911> they say psychiatry and psychology are destructive and abusive practices an
[11:23] <echelon3> what the fuck is scientology anyway
[11:23] <Sumo911> who better to write this shit than a crappy fiction writer
[11:23] <[Relic]> :)
[11:23] <Sumo911> in fact i think we should all go take all religious books in the libraries
[11:24] <Squee-D> Sumo911 im down witht hat
[11:25] <Sumo911> just a religion who's honed tithing to a tee
[11:25] <Sumo911> hehe
[11:25] <Squee-D> hehehe
[11:25] <Squee-D> tithing++
[11:25] <Sumo911> lol yep
[11:25] <Luggage> I remember reading something about an experiment conducted over a long peri
[11:25] <Squee-D> not only that, but theyre pretty freaking underhanded and dangerous
[11:26] <Luggage> Related to sense of security and needing an authority.
[11:26] <echelon3> Other beliefs of Scientology are:
[11:26] <echelon3> The thetan has lived through many past lives and will continue to live bey
[11:26] <echelon3> LAWL
[11:26] <Squee-D> thats called a brain Luggage
[11:26] <echelon3> what a joke
[11:26] <Squee-D> I need a sense of security and sometimes wish i had someone else to blame
[11:26] <Squee-D> doesnt make me less of an atheist
[11:26] <Luggage> Yes, but your brain (I presume) isn't flawed, and as such you don't embrace
[11:26] <Sumo911> there is always someone to blame.. like the scinos
[11:27] <Squee-D> Luggage i did until 3 years ago
[11:27] <Squee-D> i was a screaming new age hippy freak
[11:27] <Sumo911> talibans and christian fundamentalists are the same shit
[11:27] <Squee-D> i wasnt fundamentalist tho
[11:27] <Luggage> Glad you snapped out of it then.
[11:27] <Squee-D> just fluffamentalist
[11:27] <Luggage> :P
[11:27] <Sumo911> hehe
[11:28] <Squee-D> most people have a theistic upbringing, and its reassuring, so it takes a r
[11:28] <honkykong> cognitive dissonance
[11:28] <Sumo911> the first step imho is admitting that the worlds problems are not created o
[11:28] <honkykong> if you've invested X amount of effort into believing something, it will t
[11:29] <echelon3> this topic is boring
[11:29] <Squee-D> it sucked hard for me, i still lay awake thinking about death and if im mak
[11:29] <echelon3> i dont even know what it is
[11:29] <honkykong> what topic
[11:29] <honkykong> the url? havnt looked
[11:29] <Squee-D> heeheh
[11:29] <echelon3> scientology bs
[11:29] <Sumo911> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
[11:29] <Sumo911> :P
[11:30] <echelon3> the topic of discussion
[11:30] <Luggage> I wish the chan's best of luck in their quest of taking them down.
[11:30] <echelon3> why isnt my kettle boiling
[11:30] <honkykong> oh lol
[11:30] <honkykong> you're watching it too close
[11:31] <echelon3> how many views you think id get if i posted a vid on youtube of myself ju
[11:31] <echelon3> ?
[11:31] <echelon3> doing homework
[11:32] <capisce> 5
[11:32] <honkykong> sexual homework?
[11:32] <capisce> honkykong: when will the pictures be up?
[11:32] <honkykong> dunno looking for some now
[11:32] <honkykong> nothing yet
[11:33] <honkykong> was a pretty big meet actually
[11:33] <honkykong> i'd say at least 100 ppl
[11:33] <honkykong> columbus ohio is not made of fail
[11:33] <capisce> ooh
[11:33] <Daveman> :D
[11:33] <Daveman> honkykong, YES IT IS! :D
[11:33] <Daveman> hahahaha
[11:34] <honkykong> lies
[11:34] <honkykong> youre a lieing liar who lies
[11:34] <Daveman> I SPEAK BUT THE TRUTH!
[11:34] <honkykong> and you're not telling the truth
[11:34] <honkykong> ^^
[11:34] <honkykong> i just said you're NOT
[11:35] <honkykong> capisce heres some pics http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg158/elanonim
[11:35] <Daveman> honkyporn?
[11:35] <echelon3> when are you guys going to talk about gamedev
[11:35] <honkykong> oh but thats from texas i think
[11:35] <honkykong> gdamn whats with all the topic nazis lately
[11:35] <capisce> ah
[11:36] <Daveman> ja, seriously
[11:37] <Daveman> så...
[11:37] <Squee-D> austin?
[11:39] <honkykong> yup
[11:39] <Squee-D> you from austin honky?
[11:39] <Squee-D> im moving there in july, with any luck
[11:40] <honkykong> nope i'm up in ohio
[11:41] <honkykong> i'm not gay or cowboy enough for texas
[11:41] <honkykong> are you a gay cowboy?
[11:41] <Squee-D> naw
[11:42] <Squee-D> My wife is
[11:42] <honkykong> she should fit right in then
[12:09] <Ziggy-> http://www.ziggyware.com/news.php?readmore=586
[12:09] <Ziggy-> chek out da new xna lighting system
[12:15] <echelon3> why do the shadows from the fence have a different angle to the closer sha
[12:16] <echelon3> shadows from back*
[12:23] <Ziggy-> its probably just the angle the camera is at
[12:23] <Ziggy-> it looks fine in game
[12:24] <Ziggy-> better than fine :D
[12:24] <Ziggy-> its sexy
[12:44] <Daveman> :]
[12:53] <capisce> mmm Ziggy-, looks scrumptious
[12:54] <Ziggy-> indeed :D
[12:54] <Ziggy-> i definately recommend it
[12:57] <capisce> when are you going to do realistic rendering of ketchup?
[13:01] <Ziggy-> hehe
[13:02] <honkykong> yes
[13:02] <honkykong> or cheese
[13:02] <Daveman> :D
[13:02] <honkykong> melty cheese too, thats the toughest
[13:02] <Daveman> hey zig :)
[13:02] * Ziggy- changes topic to 'http://www.ziggyware.com/news.php?readmore=586 | http://tinyur
[13:03] <Ziggy-> sup dave :D
[13:03] <Ziggy-> got my first exclusive!
[13:03] <capisce> yeah, once we get molten cheese, ketchup, and jalapenõs we can have a fiest
[13:03] <capisce> oh, and nachos
[13:03] <Ziggy-> mmm nachos
[13:03] <Ziggy-> my wife wont get home for another 4 hours
[13:04] <Ziggy-> long time to wait for nacho
[13:04] <capisce> oooh, can you wait that long?
[13:04] <Ziggy-> maybe :)
[13:04] <capisce> congratulations on the exclusive btw
[13:04] <Ziggy-> thanks :D
[13:04] <capisce> that's rad
[13:04] <Ziggy-> my site is apparantly the biggest in the xna world
[13:04] <capisce> not a bad story either
[13:05] <Ziggy-> yea i was hoping he wasnt going to say 'uh no..'
[13:05] <Ziggy-> ;D
[13:05] <capisce> I haven't done any xna myself though :)
[13:05] <Ziggy-> theres alot more to it than i covered
[13:05] <Ziggy-> tons more
[13:05] <Ziggy-> but i only have 1E+10 time
[13:05] <Ziggy-> :P
[13:12] <Daveman> Ziggy, sweet! :D
[13:12] <Daveman> you do seem happy about it ;)
[13:12] <Ziggy-> :D
[13:12] * Daveman does the happy dance with Ziggy
[13:13] <capisce> but Ziggy- always seems happy
[13:13] <Ziggy-> :P
[13:13] <Ziggy-> its the dash isnt it
[13:13] <capisce> yesh
[13:13] <capisce> like a wagging tail
[13:14] <Ziggy-> ~:)
[13:16] <honkykong> lol
[13:16] <Decept404> Ziggy- your xna site is surprisingly good
[13:16] <Ziggy-> dont lie
[13:16] <Decept404> i always took you for a notalent hack psychopath but i stand corrected!
[13:16] <Decept404> ;P
[13:16] <Ziggy-> ;D
[13:17] <honkykong> you speak so soon
[13:17] <honkykong> maybe he outsourced
[13:17] <Decept404> haha
[13:17] <honkykong> lol
[13:17] <Ziggy-> hehe
[13:17] <honkykong> it is nice tho
[13:18] <Ziggy-> thanks :)
[13:18] <Decept404> i guess its because for the first time ever we're talking in the same lan
[13:18] <Ziggy-> i made it to share stuff i was messing with
[13:18] <Ziggy-> its just kinda grown into a monster
[13:18] <honkykong> almost enough for me to consider xna as something other than a total pos
[13:18] <honkykong> almost...
[13:18] <Ziggy-> hehe
[13:18] <Ziggy-> its ok, i only use xna cause its funner than dx
[13:18] <Ziggy-> :)
[13:18] <honkykong> yah seems like it would be
[13:19] <Daveman> :D
[13:19] <Ziggy-> and being a ms fan boi i get lots of stuff now :)
[13:19] <honkykong> shwag
[13:20] <Ziggy-> yesh
[13:20] <honkykong> booty?
[13:20] <Ziggy-> and bling
[13:20] <Ziggy-> msdn bling every couple months too
[13:22] <Daveman> mmm ziggyware
[13:22] <Daveman> that's hot
[13:24] <Decept404> i'm using xna to get a result out fast
[13:24] <Decept404> and it's simply faster for some things
[13:24] <Decept404> the one reason i'm actually using it now is because when i tell it to pla
[13:24] <Decept404> it doesnt write out a requisition form and send it by pony express
[13:25] * Daveman sends investment capital
[13:27] <Ziggy-> hehe
[13:27] <Ziggy-> i always dreaded writing audio code in dx
[13:27] <Ziggy-> it was torture
[13:27] <honkykong> truly
[13:27] <Ziggy-> granted there is more flexibility but i just want to play sound :P
[13:41] <Daveman> ziggy
[13:41] <Daveman> make me uis!
[13:41] <Daveman> for my games!
[13:44] <Cryovat> http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200711/error'd/csi.jpg
[13:44] <Sonistar> bwahahha
[13:46] <Daveman> bah, that's classic
[13:46] <Daveman> although it's nothing bad
[13:46] <Daveman> clearly they didn't want to implicate a particular VALID IP address
[13:47] <echelon3> HAHAHAH
[13:48] <echelon3> obviously they aren't interested in appealing to an intelligent audience
[13:48] <echelon3> :0
[13:49] <echelon3> or perhaps they aren't allowed to put a real IP down
[13:49] <echelon3> just like you can't use a real address in a movie
[13:49] <echelon3> or something?
[13:49] <echelon3> or a real phone number
[13:50] <honkykong> they could still put a 127 or 192 or something up there
[13:50] <Daveman> yes
[13:50] <Daveman> true
[13:50] <honkykong> or x.x.257.x
[13:50] <echelon3> whats this 257?
[13:50] <honkykong> somethig more subtle than that horrid fail
[13:50] <echelon3> oh
[13:50] <echelon3> ll
[13:50] <Daveman> dude
[13:50] <Daveman> IT'S CSI!
[13:51] <echelon3> its a valid IP address ok
[13:51] <echelon3> you just dont know about that particular one
[13:51] <honkykong> gotcha
[13:53] <Daveman> huhuhuhu
[14:38] <echelon3> how are positions of joints usually calculated for extending an arm etc to
[15:07] <honkykong> echelon3: short answer: inverse kinematics
[15:07] <honkykong> long answer: DIY inverse kinematics
[15:07] <honkykong> can you explain the situation a little more tho?
[15:08] <honkykong> for a first-person thing, ie all you see is the arm, there might be an ea
[15:08] <Daveman> :o
[15:10] <echelon3> yeah
[15:10] <echelon3> so basically what is inverse kinematics
[15:10] <echelon3> how does it work
[15:10] <honkykong> ugh i dont wanna type it you cant just google it?
[15:11] <honkykong> its basically ai problem solving to find a combo of joint positions that
[17:33] <[Relic]> :)
[17:33] <honkykong> :)
[17:34] * [Relic] throws a white barrel at honkykong
[17:34] <honkykong> silly i'm completely immune to barrels
[17:34] <honkykong> plumbers and hammers tho
[17:34] <honkykong> thats another matter
[18:01] <Daveman> :)
[19:21] <kaotrix> Ghaleon is back!!
[19:27] <chai> oh no, hide ur womenz
[20:41] <kaotrix> How comes everytime I'm talking to a girl it seems like I'm forcily prolong
[20:42] <kaotrix> And people say it's us nerds with the social problems. It's these bitches g
[20:43] <Minion> yes
[20:43] <kaotrix> ...?
[20:43] <kaotrix> Yes what?
[21:23] <Decept404> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_
[21:23] <Decept404> wow
[21:35] * Bibendum is now known as Minion
Session Close: Mon Feb 11 00:00:01 2008