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Session Start: Thu Feb 07 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:07] <kozmonaut> chai you foul drink
[00:22] <chai> :)
[03:19] <Dr_Rambo> AAV
[03:22] <aav_hlm> Dr Quinn
[03:22] <Dr_Rambo> the medicine woman
[03:23] <aav_hlm> that's ok, we love you no matter what
[03:25] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[03:26] <aav> with great power comes great responsibility
[03:26] <Dr_Rambo> lol
[03:26] <kermit`_> no no no
[03:26] <kermit`_> with great power comes hawt chicks
[03:26] <Dr_Rambo> I feel like ejaculating..
[03:26] <Dr_Rambo> some spider webg
[03:27] <aav> uh-huh kermit`_, and welcome to IRC ;P
[03:27] <kermit`_> :'(
[03:27] <aav> we need more ops
[05:16] * aav_hlm2 is now known as aav_hlm
[07:34] <Ultyma> mmm
[08:25] * savag1 is now known as randelPRO
[08:28] <Sembiance> :)
[08:50] <honkykong> hi
[08:50] <PitDroid> privet, honkykong
[08:50] <honkykong> sup
[08:50] <honkykong> yo
[08:51] <Ultyma> hi
[08:52] <honkykong> whatup
[08:52] <Ultyma> just chillin here at work
[08:52] <honkykong> coo
[08:52] <Ultyma> i love my new pc
[08:52] <Ultyma> mmmmm
[08:52] <honkykong> wut u got?
[08:53] <Ultyma> E8400 OC'd to 4.0Ghz, 4GB DDR2-800 OC'd , EVGA 8800GT
[08:53] <Ultyma> its crazy, the E8400 is stock 3.0ghz,
[08:53] <Ultyma> and I can get it to 4.8ghz on the STOCK fan
[08:53] <Ultyma> and it doesnt even get hot
[08:54] <honkykong> nice
[08:54] <honkykong> sounds tits
[08:56] <honkykong> i gots checkers
[08:56] <honkykong> they jumping, kinging, popping, blinging
[09:00] <Ultyma> :D
[09:23] <honkykong> any mac users around, mind checking something for me?
[10:12] * Davemon is now known as Daveman
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[11:51] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[11:51] <maels> hello
[11:51] <PitDroid> bonjour, maels
[11:52] <[Relic]> :)
[11:52] <LaRssA> :)
[11:52] <maels> :)
[11:53] <[Relic]> slowly but surely I am getting them traied
[11:53] <[Relic]> trained
[11:58] <Luggage> Could anyone briefly tell me a bit about how they load 3D-objects into thei
[11:58] <maels> make_game();
[11:59] <[Relic]> magic? :)
[11:59] <maels> :x
[11:59] <capisce> I use fopen to open the file, then I parse it and store the vertices and ot
[11:59] <capisce> finally I render the models
[11:59] <Luggage> I'm working on a project for school, and my group is way ahead of the cirri
[11:59] <capisce> you can use lib3ds for parsing 3ds models
[11:59] <capisce> obj is a pretty easy format to write a parser for
[12:00] <capisce> if you want to write it yourself
[12:00] <Luggage> He only knew 3DS, which turned out to be hell.
[12:01] <capisce> Luggage: well, is he writing the loader himself or is he using lib3ds?
[12:01] <Luggage> He's writing it himself, basing it on some tutorials he found.
[12:01] <capisce> is he experienced in programming?
[12:01] <capisce> we used lib3ds for a school project
[12:02] <Luggage> I set him on working with getting a 3D-object from 3DSMAX as he was the mos
[12:02] <capisce> ok, so what is the problem? :)
[12:03] <Luggage> We're loading 1 model and its animations, and it takes about 30 seconds, an
[12:03] <Luggage> It's not an extremely advanced model either.
[12:03] <capisce> hehe, sounds like his memory representation isn't that efficient
[12:03] <Luggage> Hahaha no, it isn't.
[12:03] <capisce> how big is the 3ds file?
[12:04] <Luggage> His way, the way I've understood so far, is this: Load in each model/textur
[12:05] <Luggage> Let's see... All the 3DS-files are 15mb combined.
[12:05] <capisce> well, that's pretty much how you do it, but the devil is in the details :)
[12:05] <capisce> I don't think 3ds has any compression?
[12:05] <capisce> so it shouldn't be much larger in memory
[12:05] <Luggage> Yeah, we're working on a strict deadline, because we're doing this in OpenG
[12:06] <capisce> good choice
[12:07] <Luggage> Indeed, we're learing OpenGL in another class, and the one we'd been assign
[12:07] <capisce> which school is it? the unseen university?
[12:07] <Luggage> Not all students are like us, most of them like the easy route.
[12:07] <Luggage> Haha
[12:07] <Ultyma> http://www.cracked.com/article_15853_6-cutest-animals-that-can-still-destroy
[12:07] <Luggage> I wish, could've sent the librarian after him.
[12:08] <capisce> I don't see why you wanna write your own model loader though, when lib3ds i
[12:09] <Luggage> Well, as I said I assigned him the role of working it out, I have enough de
[12:09] <Luggage> I asked him why there was no good open source loader library he could use,
[12:10] <kozmonaut> 3ds is hax
[12:10] <kozmonaut> use X
[12:10] <Luggage> But I guess we'll have to find some other way of doing it, because with jus
[12:10] <capisce> lib3ds is open source, and the name pretty much implies it works with 3ds-f
[12:10] <kozmonaut> yeh, just get a converer
[12:11] <kozmonaut> there are tons of converters out there that will change your model from o
[12:11] <Luggage> Well put capisce, I'll look into it.
[12:11] <capisce> with 3 gb I was able to render a quadrillion triangles
[12:11] <capisce> that was a ray tracer though :)
[12:11] <Luggage> Holy crap
[12:11] <capisce> but the model is 28 million triangles
[12:11] <capisce> less than 1 gig of ram at least
[12:11] <kozmonaut> i use maya alot, and if i need to convert my MB or MA to anything, i can
[12:11] <capisce> Luggage: http://srodal.blogspot.com/2007/10/and-quadrillion.html :)
[12:12] <Luggage> Haha that's great capisce.
[12:13] <Luggage> Thanks for the advice guys, I'll look into lib3ds, and also converting file
[12:13] <Luggage> The other groups haven't even started their game yet. *sigh*
[12:14] <capisce> though seriously, which school is it? :)
[12:15] <Luggage> NITH in Norway.
[12:15] <Luggage> Doubt you've heard of it.
[12:16] <Luggage> http://nith.no/meny/in_english
[12:16] <capisce> I have heard about it
[12:16] <capisce> mainly because I'm norwegian
[12:16] <Luggage> I just saw, haha!
[12:16] <Luggage> What a coincidence.
[12:17] <Luggage> *shouts hello out the window*
[12:17] <capisce> hehe
[12:17] <maels> norway, nice, i have plans on going checking out some whales there someday
[12:17] <capisce> I suspected you were norwegian as well from your nextgentel host
[12:18] <capisce> maels: are you implying our girls look like whales?
[12:18] <maels> lol
[12:18] <maels> no
[12:18] <maels> actual whales
[12:18] <maels> that live in water
[12:18] <Luggage> The project is a year-long project meant to use what we've learned during t
[12:18] <capisce> aha :)
[12:19] <maels> XNA is nice.
[12:19] <Luggage> We didn't want that and ditched XNA, but now we're struggling reaching the
[12:20] <capisce> what kind of game are you making?
[12:20] <Luggage> Well, our aim is to learn the relevant tools in order to get into the busin
[12:20] <Luggage> It's a simple sidescrolling platformer, but a funny theme.
[12:21] <capisce> ah, sounds like a realistic goal, at least you're not making an MMORPG
[12:21] <Luggage> Indeed.
[12:22] <Luggage> During this week we've been able to implement sound, input, creating a wind
[12:22] <Luggage> So I'm happy about that, just not the way the models are imported/rendered/
[12:24] <capisce> well, sounds like your good on your way then :)
[12:24] <capisce> are you using SDL?
[12:25] <Luggage> No, it started out without it, and we were enthusiastic about using small a
[12:26] <Luggage> Right now we're using GLFW for windows/input, which I've created wrappers f
[12:26] <Luggage> For models, well... I think he's used some tutorial-code, and written alot
[12:30] <capisce> aha :)
[12:30] <Luggage> We're dreaming of creating a little lib we can use for other small projects
[12:35] <eTrece> you could always use something like ogre for the rendering
[12:35] <eTrece> give some real world experience using 3d engine stuff
[12:36] <Luggage> Yeah, we're going to use Torque next year, but for now we have 2 weeks of s
[12:36] <eTrece> gotcha, yeah i personally feel it is better to start at the begginning when
[12:37] <eTrece> straight up opengl or directx with your own loaders etc
[12:37] <eTrece> it kinda forces you to understand what each componenet of a matrix does ;P
[12:38] <Luggage> So far we're only learning basic OpenGL with glut (ewww), so we're learning
[12:39] <Luggage> Something I'm happy about, but I'm trying to learn DirectX on my free time
[12:39] <eTrece> totally, i think taht is a good call
[12:39] <Luggage> I hope so, it's hard work but I'm staying positive that it will pay off.
[12:40] <Luggage> The studio I'm most interested in right now (http://www.ravnstudio.no/eng/i
[13:40] <eTrece> http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/060126_darpa_falcon.html
[13:40] <eTrece> mach 19, that is rediculous
[13:47] <Astaroth_> I wonder how many UFO reports that thing has created
[13:48] <wkr4k4r> what?
[13:48] <wkr4k4r> ufos are all fake
[13:48] <wkr4k4r> lol
[13:48] <Astaroth_> yeah, all military planes are fake
[13:53] <Astaroth_> I bet they'll make it into a nuclear missile eventually :P
[15:12] <honkykong> hey aav got your mac handy?
[15:12] <honkykong> anyone got a mac around?
[15:13] <honkykong> i promise i wont make fun of what a pos it is
[15:13] <honkykong> much
[15:14] <chai> lol
[15:15] <honkykong> hi chai
[15:15] <honkykong> ur artsy
[15:15] <honkykong> got a mac?
[15:15] <chai> no way
[15:15] <chai> lol
[15:15] <honkykong> lol nice
[15:15] <honkykong> ^5
[15:15] <chai> ^5
[15:16] <chai> I worked on a mac last year, was horrid
[15:16] <chai> I kept having to move all my work to a pc comp
[15:16] <chai> win*
[15:21] <honkykong> yeah </3 macs
[15:28] * chai_ is now known as chai
[15:48] <_Butcher_> woah it's swish
[15:48] <honkykong> woah
[15:48] <Swish> hidey ho, butcher bro!
[15:49] <_Butcher_> hey swish, how's the porn going? ;)
[15:49] <Swish> can anyone say, truly, that they've ever had enough?
[15:49] <Swish> it flows!
[15:49] <_Butcher_> :D
[15:49] <Swish> sup on your end? :)
[15:49] <_Butcher_> lot of work :p
[15:49] <_Butcher_> fucked my elbow up the other day, it hurts
[15:50] <_Butcher_> otherwise good
[15:50] <Swish> :/
[15:50] <Swish> I just converted my old box into a VM
[15:50] <Swish> seems to be running smoothly.
[15:51] <Swish> you didn't break any bones did you?
[15:51] <_Butcher_> nah, just soft tissue damage apparently
[15:51] <_Butcher_> saw the doc today, said rest it, take ibuprofen to keep swelling down :p
[15:52] <Swish> coo :)
[15:52] <_Butcher_> it's quite painful :p
[15:53] * Swish passes you the ice-packs
[15:53] <_Butcher_> heh
[15:53] <_Butcher_> driving makes it hurt, which is annoying :p
[15:53] <Swish> oi, yeah
[15:55] <_Butcher_> annoying though, I can't climb till it heals really :(
[15:55] <Swish> yah I bet
[15:59] <_Butcher_> checked out a new climbing place near here with an 80 foot wall, it's coo
[16:02] <Swish> mmm, climbing
[16:02] <Swish> so far I've increased my athletic ability steadily, if slowly
[16:02] <Swish> I can now walk 3 miles without getting winded at all. and I can even jog par
[16:02] <Swish> also, without being winded!
[16:02] <Swish> *flex*
[16:02] <_Butcher_> heh
[16:03] <_Butcher_> I can't run at all
[16:03] <_Butcher_> I can walk for miles though
[16:03] <Swish> this, from the same body that used to be breathless after literally walking a
[16:03] <Swish> amazing :)
[16:03] <_Butcher_> ouch
[16:03] <Swish> yeah, I was skinny.
[16:03] <Swish> (and out of shape, needless to say)
[16:03] <_Butcher_> I can usually do 10-12 miles in hill country before I'm tired :)
[16:03] <Swish> excellent :)
[16:04] <_Butcher_> last vacation I did 150 Km in 10 days :p
[16:04] <Swish> must have had good shoes for that :)
[16:04] <_Butcher_> that's with only about 10-20 pounds of gear in my pack though (mostly wat
[16:04] <_Butcher_> yeah
[16:05] <_Butcher_> climbing is nice, I can actually do pull ups now :p
[16:05] <Swish> wow. :)
[16:05] <Swish> I'm still weak on those
[16:05] <_Butcher_> about 5 of them using my fingertips :p
[16:05] <Swish> oooooooo
[16:05] <_Butcher_> not sure on a bar
[16:06] <_Butcher_> being able to pull on your fingers is more useful for climbing :p
[16:06] <Swish> now for the kicker... I've accomplished all this without the use of steroids,
[16:06] <Swish> it's a miracle!
[16:07] <_Butcher_> hehe :D
[16:07] <_Butcher_> all I do it eat well :p
[16:08] <Swish> mmm. speaking of which. I'm going to make dinner :)
[16:09] <_Butcher_> mmm :)
[16:09] <Swish> as soon as I verify that this blasted eggdrop linux bot autostarts.
[16:09] <_Butcher_> heh
[16:12] <Swish> mmmmmm
[16:14] <_Butcher_> hmm, at this rate I'll have really strong arms and shoulders and nothing
[16:15] <Swish> now if only aav, Cyrix, Dr_Bimbo, einride, Rangar, or Ziggy opped the bot
[16:16] * Swish salutes and goes to make dinner
[16:17] <Swish> thanks :)
[16:17] <einride> hey thanks yourself... since when did i get opped here? :P
[16:17] <Swish> haha I have no idea
[16:17] <Swish> but just in case, I'll beat whoever did it
[16:18] * Swish grabs food
[16:18] <einride> beter do that :P
[16:28] <kozmonaut> lol who is einride
[16:30] <honkykong> lol
[16:30] <honkykong> einride++
[16:31] <honkykong> aww
[16:31] <honkykong> awesome yall working on getting in shape
[16:32] <honkykong> w2g
[16:32] <honkykong> i'd pwn all of you but dont let that deter you :P
[16:34] <_Butcher_> you're probably 5'2 and 350 pounds
[16:40] <honkykong> newp :P
[16:40] <honkykong> 5'10, 180, buff and sexy
[16:40] <_Butcher_> fat
[16:40] <honkykong> newp
[16:40] * savag1 is now known as randelPRO
[16:40] <honkykong> ripped
[16:40] <_Butcher_> right
[16:40] <honkykong> i run with 50-80lbs
[16:41] <honkykong> 4+miles at a stretch
[16:41] <honkykong> in school for paramedic so i can go be a fireman
[16:41] <honkykong> ;)
[16:43] <honkykong> http://b2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01206/20/02/1206132002_l.jpg
[16:43] <honkykong> they made me cut off my mohawk for skoo :(
[16:43] <honkykong> its ok it looked stoopid anyways
[16:44] <honkykong> closer to 170 in that pic tho
[16:44] <honkykong> sup Sumo911
[16:44] <Sumo911> hey honkykong
[16:44] <Sumo911> not much just watching some movies
[16:45] <Sumo911> that new jodie foster flick.. The Brave One
[16:45] <Sumo911> pretty good
[16:45] <honkykong> any good?
[16:45] <honkykong> coo
[16:45] <honkykong> watched the last starfighter again last night
[16:45] <Sumo911> yeah I'd recomend it
[16:45] <honkykong> first time in years
[16:45] <honkykong> fun flick
[16:45] <Sumo911> oh wow I haven't seen that in ages
[16:45] <honkykong> such a classic
[16:45] <honkykong> makes me wanna make a sweet space shooter
[16:46] <Sumo911> yeah
[16:46] <Sumo911> i loved that death flower super weapon thing they did in there
[16:51] <honkykong> lol ya good stuff
[16:52] <Sumo911> rambo on vacation or something?
[16:52] <Sumo911> haven't seen him in a few days
[16:53] <Sumo911> brb
[16:56] <Gunjar> Hm, obviously he's not the only one being away. The links in the topic are a
[16:58] <honkykong> maybe its a valentines day contest
[16:58] <honkykong> or easter lol
[16:59] <honkykong> yah havent seen rambo in a couple days
[16:59] <Gunjar> hehe
[17:00] <chai> there's no holiday in oz right now, and that's a rare thing :)
[17:00] <chai> maybe he's getting ready for the rambo screening
[17:03] <honkykong> it'll be a big day, i'm sure
[17:03] <chai> heh
[17:07] <honkykong> lol remember when you could watch the last starfighter and go 'oohh i can
[17:07] <honkykong> cause what they were showing as a video game was just some far fetched ma
[17:07] <honkykong> now its like 'eww that looks like flash 3d or something'
[17:07] <honkykong> if i bought that game i'd want my money back
[17:10] <chai> I want my money back even though I haven't bought it
[17:15] <honkykong> too bad, its my money now
[17:16] * honkykong laughs maniacly
[17:16] <honkykong> MILLIONS
[17:20] <chai> lmao
[17:56] <honkykong> sup sembiance
[17:56] <honkykong> hows the world of solitairre
[18:04] <sort> hi
[18:07] <honkykong> hi sort
[18:07] <honkykong> sup m8
[18:07] <sort> im bored :/
[18:07] <honkykong> hows that flash decompiler doing
[18:08] <sort> it was fun for a little while, but i should be working on important things
[18:09] <sort> though i cant get motivated to work on anything
[18:10] <sort> that said, i finished the program to hijack your flash connections :D but it d
[18:14] <honkykong> lol
[18:14] <honkykong> yah i was gonna see if you wanna hack on it here in a bit, but its really
[18:15] <honkykong> and by hijack you mean 'connect to my open, listening server', ya?
[18:16] <sort> well i made a proxy program, so i connect to it with your flash, and my progra
[18:19] <sort> if i give you the hex dump of a message, can you tell me what it means?
[18:19] <sort> cause you made it harder to read
[18:29] <honkykong> yah thats teh compression
[18:29] <honkykong> so lol no i prolly couldnt tell you what it means
[18:30] <honkykong> [*][*] means end of message
[18:30] <honkykong> i can tell ya that much
[18:30] <honkykong> lol
[18:30] <honkykong> also you better be real good about ocnfirming bytes recieved and bytes se
[18:40] <sort> yeah i saw the square boobies
[18:40] <honkykong> yes
[18:40] <sort> not encrypted yet, just compressed?
[18:40] <honkykong> not at all accidental yet
[18:40] <honkykong> -yet
[18:40] <honkykong> no not yet
[18:41] <honkykong> soon tho
[18:41] <honkykong> so get ur jollies while you can ;)
[18:41] <honkykong> cause soon the party is over
[18:41] <honkykong> lol
[18:41] <honkykong> the easy parties anyways
[18:41] <sort> ill just move on to the flash decompiler again :P
[18:41] <honkykong> gonna make you work for it
[18:41] <honkykong> thats ok
[18:42] <honkykong> i'll just make a php script that dishes out valid keys
[18:42] <sort> work wants me to make it a full flash vm
[18:42] <honkykong> and invalidates them after 5 seconds
[18:42] <sort> go for it
[18:42] <honkykong> i will
[18:42] <sort> once i control your flash, it wont matter :p
[18:42] <honkykong> heh k
[18:42] <honkykong> fun stuff
[18:43] <sort> what kind of compression is it, if you dont mind me asking? :p
[18:45] <honkykong> slakr
[18:45] <honkykong> wut kind you think it is?
[18:45] <sort> zlib
[18:45] <honkykong> or... ?
[18:45] <honkykong> or NOTHING
[18:45] <honkykong> of course its zlib
[18:45] <honkykong> wtf else is there
[18:45] <honkykong> :P
[18:45] <honkykong> especially for flash
[18:46] <sort> just checking, didnt want to waste my time :P
[18:46] <honkykong> lol
[18:49] * eraltime is now known as realtime
[18:53] <kozmonaut> newps
[18:53] <kozmonaut> so i got someone i know to test my shit, and its just my keyboard
[19:08] <sort> honkykong: i have your 77 compiled scripts!
[20:03] * ZorbaBeta is now known as ZorbaTHut
[22:02] <honkykong> sort all 77 huh
[22:02] <honkykong> lol
[22:03] <honkykong> can you tell what any of em do?
[22:04] <Daveman> heh
[22:05] <sort> not yet
[22:05] <honkykong> lol
[22:05] <sort> gonna work on a disassembler now
[22:05] <sort> :)
[22:05] <honkykong> what is it, like, pcode or something?
[22:05] <sort> bytecode
[22:06] <sort> kind of a high level asm language
[22:06] <honkykong> lol well good luck
[22:06] <honkykong> know why?
[22:06] <sort> yeah why
[22:06] <honkykong> cuz flash PROTECTED IT FROM IMPORT!
[22:06] <honkykong> WITH
[22:06] <honkykong> NINJAS
[22:06] <honkykong> WITH GUNS
[22:06] <honkykong> and shit
[22:06] <honkykong> so careful
[22:06] <honkykong> lol
[22:06] <sort> oh you needed those? :|
[22:07] <honkykong> no i am those
[22:07] <honkykong> i am 3 ninjas with guns
[22:07] <Daveman> I see honkykongs
[22:07] <honkykong> i'm everywhere, yo
[22:07] <honkykong> i'm in your stuff
[22:07] <honkykong> doing things
[22:08] <Daveman> donging things?
[22:09] <honkykong> thats right
[22:32] <Daveman> :p
[22:35] <honkykong> sup Daveman
[22:35] <honkykong> hows going
[22:40] <Daveman> blah
[22:44] <honkykong> yup
[22:44] <honkykong> i second that blah
[22:44] <honkykong> and raise you a meh
[22:47] <sort> blah 2
[22:47] <sort> im sick of writing int decoders
[22:49] <Daveman> :p
[23:24] <sort> and all the ints come back zero, blah :P
[23:26] <honkykong> ninjas
[23:26] <honkykong> with guns
[23:27] <honkykong> i wouldnt fuck with em
[23:27] <sort> yeah????
[23:27] <honkykong> wut are you thinkin
[23:27] <honkykong> you crazee
[23:27] <honkykong> or something?
[23:27] <sort> yeah!!!!!
[23:31] <honkykong> loco
[23:35] <sort> im getting ur constants
[23:35] <sort> this one has: 57439, 100000, 0
[23:36] <sort> looks familiar??
[23:38] <honkykong> oh yea
[23:38] <honkykong> thats one of my favs
[23:38] <honkykong> right there
[23:38] <sort> yup
[23:38] <sort> i knew youd be afraid
[23:38] <sort> i got the dirt
[23:38] <honkykong> i fear
[23:39] <honkykong> stuff
[23:40] <honkykong> not really but
[23:40] <honkykong> w2g
[23:41] <honkykong> see if you can find the hidden message
[23:41] <honkykong> hint: its JEWSDID911
[23:41] <sort> oooh good one
[23:41] <sort> ill give you a string dump in a minute
[23:41] <honkykong> k
[23:43] <honkykong> also
[23:43] <honkykong> YOURE A STRING DUMP
[23:43] <sort> oooh
[23:43] <honkykong> i'm on FIRE tonight
[23:43] <sort> yeah you burned me there
[23:44] <honkykong> toweli burn
[23:44] <honkykong> its more versatile than 'so's your face' and 'i bet yu'd know if it was u
[23:45] <honkykong> but not quite as powerful as NO U
[23:45] <honkykong> that ones the powerplay just by nature of brevity
[23:49] <honkykong> well good luck and good night
[23:49] <sort> i got "Checkers"
[23:49] <sort> but the next one crashes :<
Session Close: Fri Feb 08 00:00:00 2008