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Session Start: Thu Jan 31 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:16] * qbob_ is now known as qbob
[00:54] <Anddos> whats the best way to develop a game in d3d , with full screen or windowed s
[00:56] <_Astaroth> one window, with internal GUI system
[00:56] <_Astaroth> so it looks the same in windowed and fullscreen mode
[00:56] <_Astaroth> something like what "Eve" does
[00:56] <Anddos> is it possible to show child windows in full screen , ?
[00:57] <_Astaroth> depends on what you mean by child windows
[00:57] <Anddos> child windows , edit
[00:57] <Anddos> etc
[00:58] <_Astaroth> http://static.flickr.com/44/121494683_00c220cb37.jpg I'd go for something
[00:59] <Anddos> are those created with CreateWindow
[00:59] <Anddos> or special dx ones?
[00:59] <_Astaroth> no
[00:59] <_Astaroth> its a custom GUI system
[00:59] <Anddos> dxut
[01:00] <_Astaroth> there's a few free UI systems available you could use tho
[01:00] <Anddos> yes but what is it made with ?
[01:00] <_Astaroth> code :P
[01:00] <_Astaroth> they wrote it themselves
[01:00] <Anddos> with
[01:01] <FMJaguar> QBasic
[01:01] <Anddos> those must be child windows
[01:01] <Anddos> it has dropdown etc
[01:01] <Anddos> and scroll
[01:02] <Anddos> custom background colors
[01:02] <_Astaroth> ...
[01:02] <_Astaroth> its a custom system written from scratch to suit the application
[01:02] <Anddos> how can they produce a scroll bar without using the win32 one?
[01:02] <Anddos> yes was it written from win32 api/
[01:03] <Anddos> ?
[01:03] <_Astaroth> uhm, code it?
[01:03] <_Astaroth> its not very difficult
[01:03] <Anddos> your not saying what those windows are
[01:03] <Anddos> child of the parent right?
[01:04] <FMJaguar> no
[01:04] <FMJaguar> a child window in say win32 is a windows managed window
[01:04] <Anddos> then how can you custom code a window etc without using win32?
[01:04] <FMJaguar> same way win32 did it before there was a win32 api to do it
[01:04] <Rangar> use wxWidgets for API stuff, screw win32 api level crap
[01:05] <Anddos> seeing as the main device needs hwnd parameter
[01:05] <_Astaroth> wxwidgets isnt very well suited for directx though
[01:05] <FMJaguar> Rangar, we're talking about in game stuff
[01:05] <_Astaroth> there's a lot of premade stuff you could use though, like http://www.cegu
[01:05] <Rangar> yea, cegui
[01:20] <FMJaguar> Rangar, have you worked with wxSocket at all?
[01:22] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/ts_gun_01_04.html
[01:22] <Anddos> so wxwigdets is its own syntax
[01:23] <Anddos> but works in visual studio?
[01:23] <Anddos> and directx?
[01:24] <FMJaguar> Anddos, are you still talking about the gui
[01:25] <Anddos> yes of that screenshot
[01:25] <FMJaguar> there are two worlds
[01:25] <Anddos> i see small blue scroll bars on the windows
[01:25] <FMJaguar> yes
[01:25] <Anddos> which made me thought there created with win32
[01:25] <Anddos> SCROLLBAR class
[01:26] <FMJaguar> no, they look similar, but it's just redrawn inside directx but whoever wr
[01:26] <FMJaguar> since win32 has no domain as to what your drawing on your dx window
[01:27] <FMJaguar> it's just you, dx, and whatever libraries they were talking about warlier,
[01:27] <Anddos> so your saying if i put d3d device in full screen and made a scrollbar , it
[01:27] <Anddos> if its a child and CLIPCHILDREN is on
[01:31] <Anddos> hello?
[01:31] <FMJaguar> hi
[01:31] <Anddos> are you able to answer my question
[01:32] <FMJaguar> maybe look at the dx framework sample
[01:32] <FMJaguar> or this, but i think this is old http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles
[01:32] <Anddos> ..
[01:33] <Cryovat> Eww
[01:33] <Cryovat> Why is C++ so ugly? :(
[01:33] <FMJaguar> what your calling a window in your game, is not a window to win32
[01:33] <FMJaguar> it's graphics
[01:33] <FMJaguar> so you can't use any win32 window commands, the only window it knows about
[01:34] <Rangar> just use Microsoft WING32 architecture ;)
[01:34] <Anddos> depends if you set the device to windows or fullscreen
[01:35] <FMJaguar> if you do it that way you get something else
[01:35] <FMJaguar> not what was in the screenshot
[01:36] <FMJaguar> imo not a productive use of time, since the app will need a gui anyway, so
[01:36] <FMJaguar> instead of worrying about external windows
[01:37] <FMJaguar> Cryovat, sorry, it's late =(
[05:48] <honkykong> sup ppl
[05:48] <honkykong> hows going
[05:59] <Ultyma> flat tire
[05:59] <Ultyma> :(
[06:51] * savag1 is now known as randelPRO
[07:09] * Cryogen is now known as Cryovat
[09:22] <honkykong> Ultyma ah that sucks man :(
[09:22] <honkykong> wheres the leak at, sidewall or on the tread?
[09:23] <honkykong> if on the tread, can usually be plugged pretty easy
[10:10] <DigitalV> hello persons
[10:12] <DigitalV> I am recruiting people who have some game dev experieice to help with cont
[10:13] <DigitalV> if anyone is interested let me know
[10:50] * _NousAFK_ is now known as _Nous_
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[11:09] <Ultyma> http://www.blaccuweather.com/?code=74101
[11:11] <eTrece> rainin cats n dogs
[12:11] <kaotrix> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Myanmar-Internet.html?ref=technolo
[12:28] <BruiZar> Hey
[12:29] <BruiZar> i have a question
[12:29] <BruiZar> Which local gaming-sites do you visit?
[12:29] <BruiZar> in your own language
[12:29] <honkykong> i got one i'm writing
[12:29] <honkykong> naturally its the one i'm at the most
[12:30] <honkykong> i'm thinking about making it multilingual
[12:30] <honkykong> you can see it at http://bokz.net/flash/schat.swf if you'd like
[12:53] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[14:16] * Bibendum is now known as Minion
[16:10] <Daveman> HONKYDONG
[16:28] * _Nous_ is now known as _NousAFK_
[17:05] <GoulJusan> meow!
[17:07] <kozmolot> it is I
[17:07] <kozmolot> sir Kozmolot
[17:09] <Ultyma> lol
[17:10] <GoulJusan> didn't he the one that always go to that medieval blue oyster club with '
[17:16] * GoulJusan rolls around on da floor acting cute
[17:55] <kozmolot> grr
[17:55] <kozmolot> my rpg is kicking ass these days
[17:59] <[Relic]> Ultyma, got your system ordered before they run out of e8400s? :)
[18:00] <honkykong> Daveman!
[18:04] * kozmolot is now known as kozmonaut
[18:41] <Cryovat> Hehe
[18:41] <Cryovat> Nice dialogue
[18:41] <Cryovat> "You've saying you never had...?" "I'm young, I'm still just 106 years old"
[18:46] <Goulie> wots that idlerpg?
[18:56] <Cryovat> You whoising me boy?!!
[18:58] <Cryovat> I'm sorry but... we're not that close yet!
[18:58] * Cryovat sobs
[19:01] <honkykong> oh speaking of
[19:01] <honkykong> so wrong...
[19:02] <honkykong> dude comes home and his girlfriend is leaving him. she's standing at the
[19:02] <honkykong> he says 'Those are some pretty big words for a 7 year old...'
[19:02] <Goulie> lol
[19:03] <Goulie> heard it before
[19:03] <Goulie> disturbing :D
[19:03] <honkykong> yeah just heard it today
[19:03] <honkykong> now one of my fav 'wrong' jokes
[19:03] <Goulie> one of me friend have loads of suck jokes
[19:03] <Goulie> should have FBI monitor him hehehe
[19:03] <kaotrix> "This is where you could submit your own funny pics."
[19:03] <Goulie> such
[19:03] <kaotrix> Grammatically, is there something wrong with that sentence?
[19:10] <honkykong> it doesnt sound 'wrong' to me btu i dunno it doesnt sound exactly right e
[19:11] <Cryovat> Yeah
[19:11] <Cryovat> Something sounds weird about it
[19:12] <Cryovat> Feels like something written on a sign with an arrow pointing to a hole or
[19:12] <Goulie> nothing wrong with if
[19:12] <Goulie> it
[19:12] <Cryovat> "Submit your own funny pics here" any better?
[19:12] <Cryovat> Or "Submit more funny pics here"
[19:13] <honkykong> Click here to submit you own funny pics for approval
[19:13] <honkykong> you/your
[19:13] <Goulie> to summit your funny pics, insert finger here ( * )
[19:13] <kaotrix> ok
[19:14] <kaotrix> some english major is explaining it to me
[19:14] <kaotrix> It has to be imperative
[19:14] <honkykong> to submit your own funny pics, stroke this cock -> 8===D
[19:14] <kaotrix> example: "Vote Now!"
[19:14] <kaotrix> not "This is a time where you could vote now."
[19:14] <honkykong> "Punch the Monkey!"
[19:14] <Goulie> hehehe
[19:15] <kaotrix> english is weird
[19:15] <Goulie> ehehe
[19:15] <Goulie> the simpler the better
[19:35] <Goulie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSRnh0CtNes
[19:41] <kozmonaut> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1793652
[19:53] <Goulie> lol
[20:03] <kozmonaut> anyone know a good place to put my business plan for angel investers to l
[20:05] <Goulie> oh may i have a copy?
[20:11] <kozmonaut> Maybe!
[20:11] <kozmonaut> Im not sure, if i want to hand it out, to anyone who is not an invester t
[20:15] <Goulie> >_<
[20:15] <Goulie> i'm bad with biz plan :D just wanna guide
[20:19] <kozmonaut> what you mean
[20:21] <factor> :P
[20:27] <Daveman> WHO DAVES ME!?
[21:11] <[Relic]> HAL does :)
[21:23] <kaotrix> Is there something wrong with me? Everytime I'm talking with a girl I'm thi
[21:24] <kaotrix> It's hard to take them seriously without some sexual thought involved.
[21:24] <kaotrix> fucking boobs bouncing around and shit
[21:24] <kaotrix> How am I not supposed to look at those?
[21:45] <kozmonaut> look at their eyes
[22:18] <Goulie> meow
[22:19] <Goulie> time to go ciao alllllllllllllllll
Session Close: Fri Feb 01 00:00:00 2008