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Session Start: Mon Jan 28 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:04] <vame> nokia is bidding for trolltech
[00:04] <vame> trolltech is the company behind qt
[00:05] <Dr_Rambo> QT?
[00:05] <Dr_Rambo> hey
[00:05] <PitDroid> what's up, Dr_Rambo
[00:05] <honkykong> thats interesting
[00:05] <Dr_Rambo> Quicktime?
[00:05] <honkykong> no its a ui control set thing i believe
[00:05] <Dr_Rambo> There is a trolltech around my place lOL
[00:05] <Dr_Rambo> I always wonder what the hell they do
[00:08] <vame> qt is the basis of kde amongst other things.
[00:08] <honkykong> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29
[00:08] <vame> I guess nokia wants to use their mobile technology.
[00:09] * einride thinks of moc and gets nauseous
[00:09] <chai> damn when's the new rambo coming up
[00:09] <Dr_Rambo> very soon hehe
[00:10] <chai> ah next month
[00:10] <chai> damn though it was this month
[00:10] <chai> :X
[01:37] <honkykong> hi
[01:37] <honkykong> anyone up?
[01:49] <chai> yar
[01:51] <honkykong> o/
[01:51] <honkykong> whats going on
[01:51] <honkykong> <-bored
[02:01] <aav_hlm> hello honk
[02:01] <honkykong> hi aav
[02:01] <honkykong> how you been m8
[02:02] <aav_hlm> decent
[02:02] <aav_hlm> you?
[02:02] <honkykong> meh
[02:03] <honkykong> trying to write a decent url catcher for my chat thing
[02:03] <honkykong> its slow going
[02:03] <honkykong> you'd think it'd be a rpetty straight forward task
[02:03] <honkykong> not so much
[02:05] <honkykong> been thinking about a darts game for my chat thing
[02:05] <honkykong> i think it could be kinda fun
[02:05] <honkykong> not as cool as wii darts but cool
[02:12] <honkykong> think i finally got something but goddamn will it ever run slow
[02:13] <honkykong> tricky part is getting it to catch www.yahoo.com and http://www.yahoo.com
[02:15] <honkykong> which it now does...but i want it to strip the http:// part out of the vi
[02:16] <honkykong> how gdamn convoluted is that crap... anyone got any better ideas?
[02:16] <honkykong> woot just tested it tho, looks like it works perfect
[02:17] <honkykong> was really giving me problems converting a chunk of text that'd contain l
[02:18] <honkykong> sorted that out now tho too
[02:19] <chai> oh sorry man was away
[02:19] <honkykong> lol no worries
[02:19] <chai> :]
[02:19] <honkykong> i'm chatting of nothing of consequence anyways
[02:19] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/ts_gun_01_01_concept.jpg
[02:19] <honkykong> sweet
[02:19] <chai> cheers :)
[02:19] <honkykong> like a lil bullpup thing going on
[02:20] <chai> it's a boom boom stick :P
[02:20] <honkykong> you know what bullpup gun designs are?
[02:20] <honkykong> its basically what you've got there
[02:20] <chai> ye
[02:20] <honkykong> the firing mechanism is recessed in the butt of the stock
[02:20] <chai> now I know what they are :)
[02:20] <honkykong> the trigger is usually attached to some slide arm that actually works the
[02:21] <honkykong> makes for a much more compact gun design
[02:21] <chai> what's the orange * near nicks in MSN ?
[02:21] <honkykong> if i had to critique the 'guniness' of that tho
[02:21] <chai> feel free to say if anything is missing or is wrong
[02:21] <honkykong> i'd say how you have a space above where the clip is seems very unlikely
[02:21] <honkykong> cause thats where the bullets would eject from the clip
[02:21] <chai> ye but I'm keeping it for design reasons
[02:22] <chai> it just look cool
[02:22] <honkykong> thered be 'stuff' there
[02:22] <honkykong> gotcha
[02:22] <chai> well they could go through the narrow tube
[02:22] <honkykong> there'd still be lil catcharms and shit tho
[02:22] <honkykong> pulling the bullets out of the mag
[02:22] <chai> but thanks for the note, these kinds of crits are good
[02:22] <honkykong> i'm not a full on gun nut but i've had my day
[02:22] <chai> what do you mean by catcharms ?
[02:23] <honkykong> well its the mechanism that pull bullets out of a magazine
[02:23] <honkykong> they're these lil arms, thin, with bits of a hook thing on the tip
[02:23] <chai> oh
[02:23] <honkykong> catchs the lip of the bullet and pulls it upwards
[02:23] <chai> they push the bullets to the barrel ?
[02:23] <honkykong> pretty much
[02:23] <chai> ye I see what you mean
[02:23] <honkykong> theres a sorta hmmm
[02:23] <chai> but it still looks cool :)
[02:23] <honkykong> metronome almost
[02:24] <honkykong> where as the slide of the barrel pushs back
[02:24] <chai> metronome ?
[02:24] <honkykong> it rocks the catcharm assemblage to a forward position
[02:24] <chai> ye there's no space for that spring thing
[02:24] <honkykong> then as the spring pushes the slide back forward, it resets those arms to
[02:24] <honkykong> oh yah its hyper technical but just thought i'd toss it out there
[02:24] <honkykong> <- super bored
[02:24] <honkykong> one thing comes ot mind tho
[02:25] <honkykong> purely aesthetic
[02:25] <honkykong> if that were me i'd want a compact light on the side
[02:25] <honkykong> know what picatany rails are?
[02:25] <chai> the top ones ?
[02:25] <chai> ye I see what you mean by compact light on the side
[02:25] <honkykong> picatinny rails
[02:25] <honkykong> err
[02:25] <honkykong> spelling
[02:25] <chai> didn't want it to look too much like the GOW gun though heh
[02:25] <honkykong> meant to paste a link
[02:25] <chai> okey
[02:26] <honkykong> http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spe
[02:26] <honkykong> heres a rather attractive p90 i believe http://www.copesdist.com/images/f
[02:26] <honkykong> what a crazy gun design
[02:27] <chai> ye p90 is the shit
[02:27] <chai> gonna save this as ref
[02:27] <honkykong> you could give it a flipout wire stock too
[02:27] <chai> so these are the rails ?
[02:27] <honkykong> if you wanted to make my dream gun that is
[02:27] <honkykong> ya
[02:27] <honkykong> too bad it doesnt show the other side
[02:27] <chai> ye that's cool stuff
[02:28] <honkykong> theres other picatinny rail assemblages too
[02:28] <honkykong> very popular on ar15 configurations
[02:28] <honkykong> sometimes its just one 'track' of rails on the top
[02:28] <honkykong> sometimes its 3, one top, one each side
[02:28] <honkykong> that p90 looks like one on each side, none on top
[02:29] <chai> ye it's fun to learn how things work when doing 3d weapons and stuff
[02:29] <honkykong> yah n/d
[02:29] <chai> getting better with every model I make
[02:29] <honkykong> you could almost make a 'rails' kinda thing out of that rounded beveled t
[02:29] <chai> so with the picatinny rails, the upgrades snap from the side ?
[02:30] <honkykong> with what looks like a peg on front and back
[02:30] <honkykong> well they dont exactly snap on but yah thats the idea
[02:30] <honkykong> its more like the got lil teeth
[02:30] <honkykong> and you screw the teeth down
[02:30] <honkykong> they're on there really securely once you've installed them
[02:30] <chai> ah
[02:30] <honkykong> people mount scopes and shit with those
[02:30] <honkykong> so its gotta be very stable
[02:30] <chai> ye I heard
[02:31] <chai> so you need to screw them ?
[02:31] <honkykong> yah pretty much
[02:31] <honkykong> although sometimes theres quick mounts
[02:31] <honkykong> but its not like the stuff quick attachs to the rails
[02:31] <honkykong> its more like the whole rail part comes off
[02:31] <honkykong> and back on etc
[02:31] <chai> ah I see now
[02:31] <honkykong> seen wire stocks?
[02:31] <PitDroid> I haven't seen 'wire', honkykong
[02:31] <honkykong> i could see a wire stock looking nice on your gun there
[02:31] <chai> lol
[02:32] <chai> wire stocks ?
[02:32] <honkykong> sec
[02:32] <chai> ah the thing on the back ?
[02:32] <chai> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31YD5fNcVFL._AA280_.jpg
[02:32] <honkykong> yup
[02:32] <honkykong> this one isnt wire but its a good example of the idea
[02:32] <honkykong> http://www.gunfarm.com/images/508_12GATopFoldStock.jpg
[02:33] <honkykong> i think i like mine a lil better
[02:33] <honkykong> yours is more like a collapsable one
[02:33] <honkykong> doesnt completely fold away
[02:33] <honkykong> but it'll slide in and out a little
[02:33] <honkykong> if thats what i'm thinking anywyas
[02:33] <chai> god I love the g36 ^^
[02:33] <honkykong> dunno that one
[02:33] <chai> can't open your link
[02:33] <honkykong> weird
[02:33] <honkykong> loads fine for me
[02:34] <honkykong> sec i'll find a diff
[02:34] <honkykong> this is an airsoft but this idea stock
[02:34] <honkykong> http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/images/maruzen_top_fold_jpg.jpg
[02:35] <chai> oh that's a top one
[02:35] <chai> weird
[02:35] <honkykong> uzi's got actual wire fold out stocks
[02:35] <honkykong> personally i think the top fold out type like above look sturdier
[02:35] <honkykong> more suitable for shotguns and stuff
[02:36] <honkykong> http://www.bbguns.co.uk/l.aspx?k=1046295
[02:36] <chai> I like the picatinny rails stuff, finally those things make sense to me
[02:36] <chai> I might put some for the top
[02:37] <chai> like the hole front top
[02:37] <honkykong> sure, or even just one on the side would have a nice sorta hitech asymetr
[02:37] <chai> whole*
[02:37] <honkykong> well they dont really need to be very long fyi
[02:37] <honkykong> generally the thing that mounts to em only uses about 2 inches
[02:37] <honkykong> and you cant put more than one thing on one rail
[02:37] <honkykong> well you can but it'll get in the way of each other
[02:38] <chai> ye that's good to keep in mind for future models, cheers
[02:38] <honkykong> yup
[02:38] <honkykong> gun looks tits tho man
[02:38] <honkykong> good work
[02:38] <honkykong> i've been brainstorming visual ideas for a logo for my server app
[02:38] <honkykong> thinking about calling it psychoMantis
[02:39] <honkykong> or some variant spelling of the same so i dont get as sued
[02:39] <chai> heh cheers buddy
[02:39] <chai> ye it's supposed to be a bit futuristic and a bit modern
[02:39] <honkykong> off hand the best i've thought of so far is like, the siloutte of a manti
[02:39] <chai> try some more catchy name :]
[02:39] <honkykong> with glowing red evil looking eyes
[02:40] <honkykong> hmm
[02:40] <honkykong> well what the customers would acutlaly use is called sChat
[02:40] <honkykong> so far
[02:40] <chai> heh reminds me when some guy wanted a logo for his jesuslizard company
[02:40] <chai> ah gotcha
[02:40] <honkykong> but the psychomantis is to appeal to game creating computer nerds
[02:40] <honkykong> so like, teenybopper myspacers use sChat
[02:40] <honkykong> which implements psychoMantis
[02:40] <honkykong> other apps could also use the mantis app
[02:41] <honkykong> i dunno you got any catchier name ideas?
[02:41] <chai> not really
[02:41] <honkykong> basically its two products right now, the chat software and the server so
[02:41] <chai> iceLizard
[02:41] <chai> :P
[02:41] <chai> I dunno
[02:41] <chai> just stick an animal name with a random adjective
[02:41] <honkykong> the chat/game software is married to the server software, the server soft
[02:41] <honkykong> hmm
[02:41] <honkykong> yah thats kinda what i was thinking with psychomantis
[02:41] <honkykong> i would like to use something with mantis
[02:41] <chai> heh
[02:41] <honkykong> i like mantiss
[02:42] <chai> psychomantis is a bit intimidating
[02:42] <chai> iceMantis
[02:42] <chai> assMantis
[02:42] <chai> for sChat :P
[02:43] <honkykong> lol
[02:43] <honkykong> i was thinking batMantis for a while as a zorak reference
[02:43] <honkykong> lol
[02:43] <chai> no, that's two animals :P
[02:43] <honkykong> but it was a lil campy
[02:43] <chai> heh
[02:44] <honkykong> hey one other bit of input with your gun there bud
[02:44] <honkykong> when your distributing your main shapes/masses
[02:44] <honkykong> try to allocate enough space around the barrel for something larger than
[02:45] <honkykong> like the slide you see on a semiautomatic handgun
[02:45] <honkykong> or that same mechanism is internalized in a shotgun
[02:45] <honkykong> its a pretty major component of modern firearms
[02:45] <honkykong> unless you're going like, energy weapon or something crazy like that
[02:46] <honkykong> but if thats the case you should prolly ditch the curve to the magazine c
[02:46] <honkykong> creates a curve to a stack of them when you pile em up
[02:46] <chai> I don't follow
[02:46] <Dr_Rambo> hey honky sup
[02:46] <Dr_Rambo> hey chai
[02:46] <chai> howdy rambo
[02:46] <honkykong> hey Dr_Rambo sup m8
[02:47] <Dr_Rambo> not much hehe
[02:47] <honkykong> chai you got a semiauto 9mmo or 45 you can look at?
[02:47] <Dr_Rambo> just relaxing. Holiday today
[02:47] <honkykong> or maybe a friend does you can borrow?
[02:47] <Dr_Rambo> lots of gun shops around chai
[02:47] <chai> ye lol
[02:47] <Dr_Rambo> u can definitely buy one hehe
[02:47] <honkykong> i'm sure you know the basic components i'm aluding to but it helps to act
[02:47] <Dr_Rambo> just need a license
[02:47] <Dr_Rambo> if not, just buy a BB Gun
[02:47] <chai> I went to one a couple weeks ago, the loon at the shop talked to me the revolu
[02:47] <chai> lmao
[02:48] <honkykong> he's right btw
[02:48] <honkykong> but guns wont go far
[02:48] <honkykong> better learn how to make rockets
[02:48] <chai> :)
[02:48] <chai> well I've been in the army, keep explaining it might ring a bell
[02:48] <Dr_Rambo> man, I was so disappointed by the IMAX experience
[02:48] <Dr_Rambo> of Cloverfield
[02:48] <honkykong> k sec looking for pics
[02:48] <honkykong> really? sucks man
[02:48] <chai> ooh haven't watched it yet rambo
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> don't goto IMAX for CLoverfield
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> it's too dark
[02:49] <chai> ouch
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> because IMAX projector are too far away from screen
[02:49] <chai> oh lame
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> brightness is a lot lower, I can't see half of the movie
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> and the sound is just baddd
[02:49] <chai> where did you go to, southbank ?
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> luckily I saw it already first time in a really good theatre
[02:49] <honkykong> http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNANAT.html
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> so I know I didn't miss out much
[02:49] <Dr_Rambo> yeh
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> oh chai
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> u making modern weapon now?
[02:50] <honkykong> scroll down about halfway there chai
[02:50] <honkykong> to this http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/jpeg2/FOR110.gif pic
[02:50] <chai> not modern Rambo
[02:50] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/ts_gun_01_01_concept.jpg
[02:50] <chai> semi futuristic semi modern
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> oh
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> cool
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> looks like something of Unreal 3
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[02:50] <honkykong> see that part thats slid back on the gun?
[02:50] <honkykong> that pretty much has to be bigger than the bullets
[02:50] <Dr_Rambo> a bit too fantasy looking
[02:50] <chai> ye that's the idea, big stick that goes bang bang !
[02:51] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[02:51] <honkykong> also, any semiauto weapon will have some sort of version of that
[02:51] <Dr_Rambo> looks like a mix of the british rifle
[02:51] <Dr_Rambo> forgot the name.. Enfield?
[02:51] <Dr_Rambo> with
[02:51] <chai> not sure which you mean
[02:51] <chai> how did you call it again ?
[02:51] <honkykong> the slide?
[02:51] <honkykong> i think its got a more techincal name
[02:51] <honkykong> reciever maybe
[02:51] <chai> ah wait, you mean the part the bullet cases eject from ?
[02:51] <honkykong> no acutally that doc is calling it a slide
[02:51] <honkykong> right
[02:52] <honkykong> thats gotta be bigger than the bullets
[02:52] <honkykong> its usually pretty bulky
[02:52] <honkykong> prolly the single bulkiest part of the mechanism of any gun
[02:52] <honkykong> it needs that weight to fly around proper
[02:52] <chai> oh, I got that on the other side of the gun :)
[02:52] <honkykong> in a shotgun its internal but its still there
[02:52] <honkykong> ah ok
[02:53] <honkykong> cause i saw the cocking mechanism so you kinda need something like that t
[02:53] <Dr_Rambo> looks like FN-90 in a way
[02:53] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/ScreenShot047.jpg
[02:53] <Dr_Rambo> is it call FN-90?
[02:53] <honkykong> "The slide is a key part to the operation of a semiautomatic:"
[02:53] <honkykong> hmm well its more than just a bullet ejection hole
[02:53] <chai> why would the cocking need to be bigger ?
[02:54] <honkykong> its a heavy chunk of metal that pushes against a spring as it flys back f
[02:54] <honkykong> it distributes force to those catch arms and the cocking mechanism
[02:54] <honkykong> it also (*violently*) ejects the spent round
[02:54] <honkykong> and absorbs kick
[02:55] <honkykong> in semiauto guns its a "Really Big Deal"
[02:55] <honkykong> i'd say
[02:55] <chai> ah I lost you there
[02:55] <chai> you mean that thing that stick from the side ?
[02:55] <honkykong> http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/jpeg2/FOR110.gif
[02:55] <honkykong> go there
[02:55] <chai> that's a handgun
[02:55] <honkykong> see the thing thats slid back on the top of the gun?
[02:56] <honkykong> like it just fired
[02:56] <honkykong> thats the slide
[02:56] <honkykong> notice its kinda big
[02:56] <chai> gonna save this pic too :)
[02:56] <honkykong> thats intentional
[02:56] <chai> oh cool
[02:56] <honkykong> http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNANAT.html
[02:56] <honkykong> better to bookmark this link
[02:56] <honkykong> and just read the whole thing
[02:56] <honkykong> its an overview of the anatomy of modern handguns
[02:56] <honkykong> i'm sure you'd find it very interesting
[02:57] <chai> ye good stuff there
[02:57] <chai> though it's still handguns
[02:57] <honkykong> most semiautomatics work with the same principles tho
[02:57] <honkykong> its just got longer barrels and bigger magazines
[02:58] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[02:58] <Dr_Rambo> check out this chai
[02:58] <Dr_Rambo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tavor-latrun-exhibition-1.jpg
[02:58] <Dr_Rambo> Tavor
[02:58] <Dr_Rambo> israeli bulpup configuratino
[02:58] <chai> oh that brings back memories :)
[02:58] <honkykong> automatics are pretty much the same too, they just got a refire mechanism
[02:58] <honkykong> ya i love bullpups
[02:58] <chai> so what are you saying again ?
[02:58] <honkykong> manuevable, concealable, great balance
[02:59] <honkykong> automatic/semiauto rifles and shotguns work almost identically to semiaut
[02:59] <honkykong> just bigger parts
[02:59] <chai> bigger parts ?
[02:59] <honkykong> bigger barrells, bigger magazines, sturdier internal components machined
[03:00] <honkykong> same basic idea tho
[03:00] <chai> aight anyway thanks for your input man
[03:00] <honkykong> haha no problem
[03:00] <chai> I'll go take a break for today :)
[03:00] <honkykong> hope i didnt overcomplicate matters too much for you lol
[03:00] <honkykong> k
[03:00] <honkykong> wanna play a game of connect4? :)
[03:00] <honkykong> its the only game i got working in my flash chat so far
[03:00] <honkykong> lol
[03:01] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[03:01] <Dr_Rambo> I am up for it
[03:01] <Dr_Rambo> :)
[03:01] <Dr_Rambo> where is da link
[03:01] <honkykong> sec
[03:01] <honkykong> posting
[03:02] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/schat.swf
[03:07] <honkykong> load ok for you Dr_Rambo?
[03:08] <aav_hlm> lost myself in an article :P
[03:08] <aav_hlm> whats up
[03:09] <Dr_Rambo> oh hey aav
[03:09] <honkykong> hi aav
[03:09] <Dr_Rambo> sorry, I was just distracted.. reading something
[03:09] <honkykong> what article?
[03:19] <aav_hlm> he Dr_Bimbo
[03:19] <aav_hlm> hey
[03:19] <aav_hlm> honkykong, just something on beyond3d
[03:20] <aav_hlm> rasterization vs raytracing discussion
[03:21] <honkykong> coo
[03:21] <honkykong> hey aav wanna try out my connect4? lol
[03:23] <aav_hlm> er, sure ;)
[03:23] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/schat.swf
[03:46] <honkykong> lol aav
[03:46] <honkykong> tnx for checking out my lil stooopid flash games :)
[03:46] <aav_hlm> np :) very nice
[03:47] <sort> snow!
[03:48] <honkykong> lol
[03:48] <honkykong> hey sort does my flash still crash your decompiler?
[03:48] <honkykong> thats awesome btw
[03:48] <sort> probably
[03:48] <honkykong> made my day the other day
[03:48] <sort> ive only tried one :p
[03:49] <sort> ok i will try the other ones
[03:49] <honkykong> lol k
[04:06] <sort> it doesnt crash now and i can see all the resources, but no script
[04:08] <sort> protect '$1$Jh$j3PdmetSb9Vh.ic79iASW.'
[04:12] <honkykong> huh
[04:12] <honkykong> neat
[04:12] <sort> thats all i see in code
[04:12] <honkykong> thats all there is
[04:12] <honkykong> that makes it all go
[04:12] <honkykong> its perl
[04:12] <sort> uh huh
[04:12] <sort> sure
[04:12] <honkykong> lol
[04:13] <honkykong> goddamn i'm such a nerd
[04:13] <honkykong> i find that hilarious
[04:13] <honkykong> more so that like, less than 0.01 percent of the population would get it
[04:19] <sort> that would be approximately 1 million people
[04:19] <honkykong> 1 million very nerdy people
[04:20] <honkykong> ok maybe less than that even
[04:20] <honkykong> 0.005
[04:35] <wkr4k3r> anyone here use slerp or squad for AI aiming?
[04:35] <honkykong> newp never heard of em
[04:35] <honkykong> products or algo's?
[04:39] <wkr4k3r> algos
[04:39] <Decept404> super algo bros
[04:39] <wkr4k3r> should i just use product?
[04:42] <honkykong> all greek to me m8 sorry
[04:42] <honkykong> i just do the ol atan shizzle
[04:42] <honkykong> not sure what you'd call that
[04:43] <Decept404> the lolmethod
[04:44] <honkykong> lolocaust
[04:44] <honkykong> for my elite 72nd Brigade ROFL troops
[04:45] <honkykong> i use steering behaviors for basic navigation
[04:45] <honkykong> but nothing special for aiming
[04:47] <Decept404> steering behaviors <3
[04:47] <wkr4k3r> steering behaviors?
[04:47] <wkr4k3r> you mean moving?
[04:47] <honkykong> ya
[04:47] <wkr4k3r> heh
[04:47] <honkykong> not what you're talking about
[04:47] <honkykong> but i also use it for basic threat assessment
[04:47] <honkykong> target aquisition etc
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> ok
[04:48] <honkykong> ok
[04:48] <yosh64> hey
[04:48] <honkykong> hey
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> mine is similar to that
[04:48] <honkykong> cool
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> except my navigation is shit
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> heh
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> aka nonexistant
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> i need a big world map
[04:48] <wkr4k3r> god
[04:49] <honkykong> well as long as you dont try to a* everywhere
[04:49] <honkykong> lol
[04:49] <honkykong> that'd be brutal death
[04:50] <honkykong> unless you're in pacman world
[04:50] <honkykong> vs 2 opponents
[04:57] <Decept404> i'm surprised at how few web devs use svn
[04:57] <Decept404> peeps don't know what they missings
[05:02] <honkykong> i have never used it
[05:03] <honkykong> i hear about it all the time and its just one of those things you hear ab
[05:03] <honkykong> :/
[05:03] <honkykong> someday, i'll be one of hte cool kids
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[05:30] <yosh64> cyas
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[06:32] <Ultyma> hmm
[06:40] <honkykong> yup
[06:40] <Ultyma> Ya, I get into work
[06:40] <Ultyma> and the UPS holding our servers died
[06:40] <Ultyma> sometime saturday night, and noone called me
[06:40] <honkykong> isnt that special
[06:40] <honkykong> fuckers
[09:05] <Cryovat> You survived Decept404?
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[09:14] <Ultyma> :o
[09:15] <Anddos> how is the maths done when trianges of diferent objects touch each other
[09:15] <Anddos> D3D
[09:16] <Ultyma> First it checks if the objects are of legal age
[09:16] <Ultyma> if one is not, the police are called
[09:16] <Anddos> kkkkkkk
[09:42] <honkykong> unless they're both underage in which case you send them to their room
[09:42] <honkykong> no desert for you mr inappropriately touchy tri
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[12:29] <Ultyma> www.puzzle-tracker.com
[12:29] <Ultyma> :D
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[13:19] <Anddos> how is the maths done on collision for d3d
[13:21] <eTrece> depends on what you coded it to do
[13:22] <Anddos> so far i have the .x
[13:22] <Anddos> do you have to create a box around it now?
[13:24] <Anddos> so like you model a building and it has a door
[13:25] <Anddos> bah
[13:25] <Anddos> i said that wrong
[13:27] <Astaroth_> if you have no experience with collision detection you might want to star
[13:28] <Anddos> BoundingSphere
[13:28] <Anddos> and calculate the radius etc?
[13:28] <Astaroth_> yes, if the distance between the centers of two spheres are less than the
[13:29] <Anddos> in world space?
[13:29] <Astaroth_> in whatever space you work with
[13:29] <Anddos> x y z
[13:30] <stringa> hello, I'm a little confused about point sprites. They say you only need
[13:32] <Anddos> so you create a sphere around m .x model
[13:32] <Anddos> hhmmm
[13:35] <Astaroth_> stringa: you can easily add color values to each vertex
[13:36] <Anddos> i am reading this
[13:36] <Anddos> http://www.toymaker.info/Games/html/collisions.html
[13:36] <stringa> astaroth, but I have to lock the vertex buffer every time.
[13:37] <Astaroth_> why is that an issue?
[13:38] <stringa> so, is it just the most efficient to just create say 100 verticies and just
[13:38] <Astaroth_> well, you certainly can.. its not that much of a penalty
[13:38] <Astaroth_> I did an effect with around 100k particles in realtime a while ago
[13:38] <Astaroth_> it ran pretty smooth on modest hw
[13:39] <Astaroth_> and the buffers are locked each frame
[13:39] <stringa> i was wondering if i could do it with exactly 1 vertex, but that seems impo
[13:39] <Astaroth_> no, you want 1 vertex per point sprite
[13:40] <stringa> yea
[13:41] <Astaroth_> what you dont want is begin/endscene for each particle
[13:41] <Astaroth_> that will be a disaster
[13:42] <Astaroth_> so as long as you can fire them all off with a single drawprimitive, you
[13:42] <stringa> i know that much
[13:42] <Astaroth_> iit has a penalty of course, but its quite doable
[13:43] <Anddos> what if your .x object moves
[13:43] <Anddos> does the sphere move with it?
[13:43] <Astaroth_> sure
[13:54] <stringa> Astaroth, if i wanted to create multiple instances, is there a performace h
[13:59] <Astaroth_> there's no performance hit doing that afaik
[13:59] <Astaroth_> I had several in the effect I mentioned
[14:00] <stringa> k
[14:01] <Astaroth_> you probably want dynamic vertex buffers tho
[14:02] <_kw> anyone here used tv3d?
[15:03] <stringa> is there such a thing as lit verticies in D3D9?
[15:09] <_kw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
[15:13] <Ultyma> wow
[15:14] <_kw> fuck yes :)
[15:14] <chai> :]
[15:14] <chai> they should seriously make a usb for the pc like this
[15:14] <chai> incorporate it to every 3d game
[15:14] <chai> everyone would buy it
[15:15] <_kw> :-P
[15:15] <ht7z> indeed
[15:20] <kozmowork> yo
[15:21] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[15:22] <chai> yo yo kozmonautics
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[17:22] <spec_> hi.
[17:24] <_kw> hi.
[17:40] <honkykong> o/
[17:41] <Daveman> yay!
[17:41] <honkykong> hihi
[17:41] <Daveman> honkygong!
[17:41] <honkykong> yes
[17:41] <Daveman> ^_^
[17:41] <honkykong> i have arrived
[17:41] <honkykong> all is well
[17:41] <Daveman> EXCELLENT
[17:41] <Daveman> PLEASED TO WRITE GAME?
[17:41] <honkykong> how are you?
[17:41] <honkykong> yes very
[17:41] <Daveman> I am well!
[17:42] <Daveman> Busy as a donkykong in a barrel shop :p
[17:42] <honkykong> lol
[18:29] <honkykong> woot almost got my checkers working
[18:29] <honkykong> input focus managment is lil dicey with board games
[18:30] <Daveman> :p
[18:30] <Daveman> BOARD GAMES!?
[18:30] * Daveman board rapes honkykong
[18:33] <honkykong> lol
[18:33] <honkykong> yup
[18:33] <honkykong> checkers
[18:33] <honkykong> mmo battle checkers
[18:33] <honkykong> of DEATH
[18:33] <Daveman> :D
[18:33] <Daveman> hawt
[18:33] * Daveman DEMANDZ MOAR!
[18:35] <honkykong> lol
[18:35] <honkykong> woot let the carnage begin
[18:35] <honkykong> it now umm
[18:35] <honkykong> lets the user select a piece
[18:35] <Daveman> :D
[18:35] <honkykong> highlights valid moves
[18:35] <Daveman> I choose the monkey!
[18:35] <honkykong> lets them select a move
[18:36] <honkykong> then moves the pieces removes any jumped pieces
[18:36] <honkykong> lol
[18:36] <honkykong> WOAH!
[18:36] <honkykong> kinda cool tho
[18:36] <honkykong> and i'll be able to make it inet multiplayer wit like, 3 more lines
[18:36] <Daveman> OMG LIEK WOWz!
[18:36] <honkykong> inorite
[18:36] <Daveman> lawl.
[18:37] <honkykong> now just need to be able to king peoples checkers and setup multijumps
[18:37] <honkykong> and it'll be ready to go
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[20:37] <microcosm> http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30505
[21:08] <microcosm> gamedev.net freezes my firefox for some reason
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[23:03] <honkykong> o/
[23:04] <honkykong> whatup chan
[23:04] <honkykong> wuts good
[23:16] <sort> you will not believe
[23:16] <honkykong> i might
[23:16] <honkykong> try me
[23:16] <sort> work is having me make a flash9 decompiler
[23:17] <honkykong> lol funnai
[23:18] <honkykong> to decompile the honkychat?!
[23:18] <honkykong> just pay me :P
[23:18] <honkykong> lol
[23:18] <honkykong> wut are you decompiling
[23:18] <sort> i need to make an anti virus of sorts for flash
[23:18] <honkykong> oh good fucking luck
[23:19] <sort> thanks
[23:19] <Nutter> it's called FlashBlock :P
[23:19] <honkykong> lol
[23:19] <sort> it will actually be pretty easy
[23:19] <sort> nah its not that easy :)
[23:19] <honkykong> pretty easy but not that easy eh
[23:19] <sort> not flashblock easy
[23:19] <Nutter> sure it is - works great :)
[23:19] <sort> flashblock is my answer to flash, but my work pays me to think otherwise
[23:20] <Nutter> haha
[23:21] <honkykong> so honkycheckers is almost a reality
[23:21] <honkykong> fear!
[23:22] <chai> :X
[23:22] <honkykong> lol
[23:23] <chai> lo honkey
[23:23] <honkykong> hi chai
[23:23] <honkykong> sup m8
[23:23] <chai> not bad
[23:23] <chai> tweaked my gun
[23:23] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/ts_gun_01_03_concept.jpg
[23:23] <honkykong> sweet
[23:23] <chai> it also has an uber barrel now, but that's not gonna get rendered :)
[23:23] <honkykong> cant really see the difference but the lighting is nicer now :)
[23:24] <honkykong> oh wait
[23:24] <chai> oh I took your advice about the butt and where the clip goes :P
[23:24] <honkykong> ok now i see
[23:24] <honkykong> you filled in the hole
[23:24] <honkykong> nice
[23:24] * chai slaps honkykong
[23:24] <honkykong> yeah good call man
[23:24] <honkykong> :)
[23:24] <chai> heh thanks man
[23:24] <honkykong> yeah i like it man :)
[23:24] <honkykong> looking forward to seeing it textured and smoothed etc
[23:25] <sort> what are those models for
[23:25] <honkykong> asskickin shiznat
[23:27] <honkykong> you should make a sweet sniper rifle chai
[23:27] <honkykong> like a futuristic dragonuv
[23:27] <chai> first I need to actually start this gun lol
[23:27] <honkykong> ah
[23:27] <honkykong> well when you're done with your boomstick then
[23:27] <chai> lol
[23:27] <honkykong> would dig seeing your idea for a sniper rifle
[23:28] <honkykong> and maybe an assault rifle too
[23:28] <chai> easy cowboy
[23:28] <honkykong> something with a bayonet
[23:28] <chai> :)
[23:28] <honkykong> NO
[23:28] <honkykong> YOU DO IT NOW
[23:28] <chai> HAHAHA
[23:28] <honkykong> !
[23:28] <honkykong> lol
[23:28] <chai> !11
[23:28] <Nutter> hah
[23:28] <honkykong> !!!1!!11one
[23:28] <Nutter> chai is my cat's name
[23:28] <chai> have you seen my blades ?
[23:28] <Nutter> and she's EVIL
[23:28] <honkykong> yup, fun stuff
[23:28] <chai> you must have an awesome cat :)
[23:28] <honkykong> some of them anyways
[23:28] <honkykong> link me up i'll see the rest
[23:29] <honkykong> you'd maybe like my swords
[23:29] <honkykong> i have a few
[23:29] <honkykong> some custom built
[23:29] <honkykong> i quite enjoy practicing with two short swords
[23:29] <Nutter> if by awesome you mean the stereotypical cat, ala Get Fuzzy
[23:31] <chai> cool
[23:31] <chai> you got pics ?
[23:31] <chai> nah I only meant the two blades I've made
[23:32] <honkykong> nah no pics really
[23:32] <honkykong> cept
[23:32] <honkykong> lol
[23:32] <honkykong> sec
[23:32] <honkykong> http://www.box.net/shared/4195h2tqzz
[23:33] <honkykong> lol
[23:33] <honkykong> i laf like a git
[23:33] <honkykong> i didnt think it was gonna work out so perfect
[23:34] <honkykong> lol good times
[23:35] <chai> a video of honkey making fun of himself ?
[23:35] <chai> awesome
[23:35] <honkykong> lol
[23:35] <honkykong> you watched it?
[23:35] <honkykong> know whats happening there?
[23:35] <chai> is that a wakizashi ?
[23:36] <honkykong> i always just refer to it as a tanto or my short swords but yes i think t
[23:36] <honkykong> sec
[23:36] <honkykong> or no
[23:36] <chai> ah tanto ok
[23:36] <honkykong> ninja-to
[23:36] <chai> ah it looks like a clear message of what will happen to the one sleeping with
[23:37] <honkykong> ah well i suppose wakizashi is a ninjato
[23:37] <honkykong> but its a cutdown katana
[23:37] <honkykong> and thus curved
[23:37] <honkykong> thats a straight blade
[23:37] <honkykong> i prefer straight blades for my short swords
[23:37] <honkykong> haha well thats understood
[23:37] <chai> ye I know what a tanto is
[23:38] <chai> I used to practice ninjutsu for a lil' while
[23:38] <Decept404> my chemistry teacher in high school led a ninja dojo
[23:38] <Decept404> hilarious
[23:38] <chai> hey I get a glimpse of ur face
[23:38] <chai> lmao Decept
[23:38] <honkykong> lol Decept404
[23:38] <honkykong> i took ninjitsu for years
[23:38] <honkykong> great stuff
[23:39] <Decept404> i watched him throw some kid on his ass
[23:39] <honkykong> i am quite accomplished with nunchuka
[23:39] <Decept404> apparently all they did at that school was roll though
[23:39] <Decept404> roll roll roll
[23:39] <Decept404> roll like the wind!
[23:39] <honkykong> kama, swords, bo staff, rifles and handguns (used as hand weapons)
[23:39] <honkykong> yeah we did a lot of rolling too
[23:39] <honkykong> lol
[23:39] <honkykong> that and conditioning
[23:39] <honkykong> we'd take turns just beating the hell out of each other
[23:39] <Decept404> i havent done much with weapons
[23:40] <honkykong> to the day i can take a punch directly to the throat and laugh it off
[23:40] <Decept404> i do shintaido bojutsu in the summer
[23:40] <Decept404> but thats more meditative than anything
[23:40] <honkykong> mayb enot like, any punch ever
[23:40] <honkykong> but most
[23:40] <Decept404> i have a bunch of swords though. haha
[23:41] <Decept404> but thats more because i'm childishly romantic about the
[23:41] <Decept404> m
[23:42] <honkykong> yeah a buddy of mine is like that
[23:42] <honkykong> swords everywhere
[23:42] <honkykong> doenst know how to use any of em
[23:43] <honkykong> i have 5 swords and 3 machettes and they're all 'working mans' blades
[23:43] <honkykong> more and more a chain has become my favorite hand weapon
[23:43] <honkykong> it just gives you a lot of options
[23:43] <honkykong> and its scary when used right
[23:43] <honkykong> like attacking a blender
[23:46] <chai> just buy a gun lol
[23:46] <honkykong> i have a few
[23:46] <chai> ah wait I bet you have that already
[23:46] <chai> :D
[23:46] <honkykong> oh yes
[23:46] <honkykong> but meh
[23:46] <honkykong> guns
[23:46] <honkykong> either too much or not enough
[23:46] <honkykong> if you ened a gun, really you probably need explosives
[23:47] <honkykong> if you dont need a gun... good hand to hand is probably just as effective
[23:47] <honkykong> lotta times a gun is a liability
[23:47] <chai> I'm over this ninja shit, I'm a pacifist artist :)
[23:47] <honkykong> yeah i was until my country went to shit
[23:47] <honkykong> now i'm an anarchist rebel
[23:47] <chai> what country is that ?
[23:47] <honkykong> i'd rather be painting tho
[23:48] <honkykong> america
[23:48] <chai> oh
[23:48] <chai> I used to live in israel
[23:48] <honkykong> yah i figured
[23:48] <chai> there I practically used what I learned in ninjutsu lol
[23:48] <chai> don't want any of that shit
[23:48] <honkykong> i forget what they call it in israel
[23:48] <honkykong> funky name
[23:48] <chai> budo taijutsu
[23:48] <chai> or akban or something
[23:48] <chai> they have a lot of names
[23:49] <chai> it's a good dojo, shitload of blackbelts with 10+ years of experience
[23:49] <honkykong> krav maga
[23:49] <honkykong> thats what i'm thinking of
[23:49] <honkykong> very siimilar to what i studied actually
[23:49] <chai> no that's something else
[23:49] <honkykong> we just called it ninjitsue
[23:49] <kaotrix> Any physics people here?
[23:49] <chai> what I studied was the old school shit
[23:49] <honkykong> it was really a mix of a few things
[23:49] <honkykong> ah ok yeah what i studied was more modernized
[23:49] <chai> we had training days on mountains and craps
[23:50] <honkykong> everything from snagging/snaring with the sight of a gun to using your op
[23:50] <honkykong> and of course all the traditional neck breaking
[23:50] <chai> ye that's krav maga
[23:51] <honkykong> thats kidn of a rip off of russian special forces hand to hand
[23:51] <honkykong> i forget what that shits called but they were real good at that shit too
[23:51] <honkykong> they could take a latrine shovel and just fuck up a crowd with one
[23:51] <honkykong> or an unloaded AK and kill everyone in sight with it
[23:51] <chai> lol
[23:51] <honkykong> spetznaz
[23:51] <honkykong> thats the guys
[23:52] <Decept404> GRU ftw
[23:52] <Decept404> :P
[23:52] <honkykong> very understated forms
[23:52] <honkykong> dunno gru
[23:52] <honkykong> wuts that?
[23:52] <Decept404> spetznaz sir
[23:52] <Decept404> anywho
[23:52] <chai> kozmojutsu
[23:52] * chai pokes kozmonaut
[23:53] <honkykong> oh ok
[23:53] <honkykong> yeah theyre tuff
[23:53] <honkykong> i've studied some of their knife techniques independantly
[23:58] <kozmonaut> yo..
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