Log for #gamedev on 2008-01-13


Session Start: Sun Jan 13 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:34] <sort> i made a for loop for kaotrix
[00:34] <MrFurious> k
[00:34] <MrFurious> sounds pretty advanced.
[00:35] <sort> indeed
[00:35] <sort> it is
[00:35] <sort> http://talitha.cvk.ca/AnimalCookies/Pages/ShowCookie.php?id=1
[00:35] <sort> page loads kinda slow now :/
[00:52] <DrScratMD> http://wastingaway.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/rocky-balboa-vs-chuck-norris/
[01:51] <Saq> Fact: There would not be computers without John Carmack... The only bits that a
[01:52] <Saq> Fact: John Carmack has never had a wet dream. The closest thing to it was one t
[01:53] <Saq> Fact: If someone took the time to debug John Carmack's code they would find the
[01:58] <Saq> Fact: If the power of John Carmack's typing was ever harnessed into energy, it
[02:00] <Saq> Fact: If John Carmack ever tried to divide by zero, his compiler would find a w
[02:02] <Saq> Fact: The Americans only beat the Russians to the moon because baby John Carmac
[02:04] <Saq> Fact: Because of John Carmack, all armadillos are now smarter than the average
[02:08] <Saq> Fact: When taking the AP computer science test, fill in John Carmack for each a
[02:09] <wkr4k3r> gay
[02:09] <wkr4k3r> shgut up
[02:09] <wkr4k3r> everyone knows it came from aliens
[02:09] <wkr4k3r> shut up
[02:09] <Saq> Fact: John Carmack invented every html code of color except for #f900fa, which
[02:11] <Saq> Fact: If you look up 'wkr4k3r' in John Carmack's excel spreadsheet of contacts,
[02:12] <Saq> Fact: John Carmack doesn't use excel, he only reads in binary. He only writes o
[02:15] <ht7z> one annoying person you are
[02:15] <Saq> Fact: The 'Big Bang' was created by John Carmack, once when he removed his pant
[02:16] <Saq> Fact: Fuck you.
[02:16] <ht7z> and a clever one also
[02:17] <Saq> lawlz
[02:17] <Saq> if u don't like it don't read it!
[02:17] <Saq> gg m8
[02:19] <wkr4k3r> faggots
[02:19] <wkr4k3r> i had gaysex with john
[02:20] <Saq> hawt hot hot
[02:20] <wkr4k3r> WHAT A MAN!
[02:22] <wkr4k3r> I INVENTED IT ALL
[02:22] <wkr4k3r> HE STOLE IT
[02:22] <wkr4k3r> IM SUEING
[02:22] <wkr4k3r> WE WERE GAY LOVERS
[02:24] <wkr4k3r> WE STILL ARE VERY GAY
[02:25] <wkr4k3r> I THINK HE INVENTED AIDS
[02:29] <Saq> Fact: John Carmack invented AIDS so that he could inject himself with it whenev
[02:34] <Saq> man, 'The Universe' is kick ass, time to watch the next episode
[02:34] <Saq> weee
[02:47] <wkr4k3r> I LARRY CRAIGED JOHN IN A BURGER KING BATHROOM
[03:32] <Thoys> µ
[04:14] <Dr_Rambo> banned?
[04:14] <Dr_Rambo> what happen?
[08:47] <Ziggy-> http://www.ziggyware.com/news.php?readmore=554
[08:48] <ht7z> any of teh winners on this chan?
[09:13] <MrFurious> hey ziggy thats awesome man
[09:13] <MrFurious> nice to see your site seems to be picking up a nice community thing
[09:13] <MrFurious> you know i have a pretty spiffy flash chat i'm working on *ahem* :P
[09:36] <Yenal> hey
[09:36] <Yenal> does anyone have a mesh class written for d3d that I can take a look at?
[09:42] <factor> hey
[09:42] <PitDroid> que tal, factor
[10:00] * Jarlaxle[ is now known as Jarlaxle
[10:13] <Astaroth_> anyone wanna try out my virtual desktop project?
[10:13] <Astaroth_> http://avataren.org/av/ login is guest/guest
[10:14] <Astaroth_> its not very functional yet, only a file explorer is available, but you c
[10:14] <Astaroth_> *files
[10:14] <ht7z> where do i select teh weapon
[10:14] <ht7z> :-p
[10:14] <Astaroth_> in the flash games, soon to come
[10:15] <Astaroth_> there's a flash folder with crap in it atm
[10:16] <Astaroth_> uploading/downloading is disabled for the guest acct tho
[10:21] <Astaroth_> oh, to execute stuff, double click it :P
[10:48] <Yenal> does anyone have a mesh class written for d3d that I can take a look at?
[11:13] <vame> Yenal, you could look at ogre's code.
[11:13] <vame> or some other open source renderer with a directx pipeline
[11:13] <Yenal> vame: isn't that pretty complex
[11:14] <Yenal> all tutorials i've seen only show how to load an X file and display it
[11:14] <Yenal> not the design part of things
[11:15] <Yenal> also i don't think that commercial games load files directly from the hdd. i
[11:30] <vame> Yenal, what are you coding?
[11:31] <vame> well how to load a mesh really depends on a lot of factors
[11:32] <Yenal> currently i am just trying to implement some base code
[11:33] <Yenal> for my initial game which is falling blocks :)
[11:33] <vame> then just load it directly
[11:33] <Yenal> i guess that's a good place to start
[11:33] <vame> focus on the game, not other stuff.
[11:33] <Yenal> but this will be my portfolio
[11:34] <vame> doesn't matter.
[11:34] <vame> make it simple. your code will be easier to follow as well.
[11:34] <Yenal> but i need some sort of abstraction
[11:34] <Yenal> mesh to a block, block to set of blocks
[11:34] <vame> your goal is to display your ability to create a game, not a renderer, right?
[11:34] <Yenal> hmm
[11:35] <Yenal> that is correct
[11:36] <vame> and choose what you want to focus on. what is the biggest skill you want to di
[11:36] <Yenal> tell me what happened
[11:36] <Yenal> oops
[11:37] <Yenal> wrong place
[11:37] <Yenal> ok recently i've applied to a gaming job, i sent a very basic code that rotat
[11:38] <Yenal> the guy told me code is OK but we expect something creative that cannot be fo
[11:38] <Yenal> obviously i have to create a game, but i dont think tetris would suffice
[11:38] <Yenal> my first mistake was to apply without portfolio, but i just wanted to try :)
[11:39] <MrFurious> did you try waving your penis at him?
[11:39] <Yenal> the thing is i am trying to switch to gaming industry, but basically without
[11:39] <einride> make something simple and silly that makes gamedevs laugh
[11:39] <Yenal> MrFurious: he was nice to me :)
[11:39] <MrFurious> i've heard good things about that approach
[11:39] <einride> like... hmm
[11:39] <Nutter> then yes, design of the systems is important... so go for the abstraction/cl
[11:39] <einride> like chasing and squashing bugs, avoiding managers, whatever
[11:39] <MrFurious> like babyPuncher3D-Pro X-TREME edition
[11:40] <Nutter> haha
[11:40] <MrFurious> its fun because its EASY
[11:40] <MrFurious> goddamn i'm twisted
[11:40] <einride> ever heard of "Peter Packet"?
[11:40] <MrFurious> newp
[11:40] <Yenal> what do yo guys think, tetris is a waste of time?
[11:41] <einride> cisco's game. hilarious for anyone working with routing :P
[11:42] <Nutter> well tetris isn't exactly creative, and probably can be found in books like
[11:42] <einride> if you can come up with a similar concept that applies to gamedev or dev in
[11:42] <Nutter> I'd say go for something funny too
[11:43] <Yenal> maybe i should have sent my masters project, at least it was something close
[11:43] <Nutter> but remember to restrict it to low-art requirements, you don't want to get c
[11:43] <_Butcher_> if it's a goodle implementation of tetris it would do
[11:44] <_Butcher_> good*
[11:44] <_Butcher_> but it would have to be good
[11:44] <_Butcher_> rotating a teapot doesn't show anythingt hough
[11:44] <Yenal> i know.
[11:44] <Yenal> i thought they just wanted to see my coding style
[11:45] <Yenal> i have a project that i implement in ogl, i dont know if it makes sense to sh
[11:45] <Nutter> coding style isn't very important, as long as it's not a complete mess - the
[11:46] <MrFurious> http://fukung.net/v/4991/Grand_Theft_Auto_Somalia.jpg
[11:47] <Yenal> also he said relocation is another issue :) i live in NY, there is not many g
[11:47] <MrFurious> yes i did just copy/paste that from #flash
[11:47] <MrFurious> did you wanna fight about it?
[11:48] <Nutter> yeah NY is a pretty dry spot - most are on the West coast, or Texas. There a
[11:49] <_Butcher_> Yenal: not willing to relocate?
[11:49] <Saq> man i got banned last night!? u can't ban a saq!!
[11:50] <Yenal> what i am trying to do now is first relocate to socal by finding a C# program
[11:50] * Nutter kicks the sack
[11:50] <_Butcher_> .kb Saq
[11:50] <Saq> ow
[11:50] <Yenal> _Butcher_: i am
[11:50] <_Butcher_> oops mt
[11:50] <Yenal> btw these recruiters are weird, i applied to some jobs in socal, they forward
[11:50] <_Butcher_> recruiters suck :p
[11:51] <Yenal> i guess people prefer local candidates
[11:51] <Nutter> socal == expensive - watch out. There are lots of devs in the Seattle area,
[11:51] * SmilybOrg is now known as SmilyOrg
[11:51] <Yenal> Nutter: more expensive than NY?
[11:51] <Nutter> true :)
[11:51] <Yenal> Nutter: actually the job i applied was in bellevue
[11:53] <Saq> For the first time since 1982, the NBA is sending two teams back to the court f
[11:53] <Saq> lol
[11:53] <Yenal> do they have paid internships in game companies?
[11:53] <einride> define paid.
[11:53] <Yenal> over 40k :)
[11:53] <Yenal> so i can survive with my wife :)
[11:53] <einride> not here :P
[11:53] <Yenal> i actually dont think i can survive with that money
[11:54] <Epoch`_> Any of you guys run a blog/articles type website with .NET?
[11:54] <Yenal> what is the average salary for an entry level game dev? 55-60? or even less
[11:55] <Yenal> Epoch`_: I dont
[11:56] <Nutter> it depends on a lot of things, but that's the ballpark - or like you say, le
[11:56] <Epoch`_> usually salary is consumate of experience
[11:58] <Yenal> are you guys (still) working in the industry
[11:58] <Nutter> yep
[11:58] <Yenal> btw gamedev.net is down
[11:58] <Saq> that's not related to this chan
[11:59] <Yenal> Saq: really?
[11:59] <Saq> ya
[11:59] <Yenal> i always thought they are related
[11:59] <Saq> newp
[11:59] <Yenal> Nutter: which state are you located in?
[12:00] <Nutter> province :) I'm in BC, Canuckistan
[12:01] <Yenal> you know what i just googled that out and found that its Canada :)
[12:01] <Nutter> hehe
[12:01] <Yenal> is it true that there are many people from middle east?
[12:03] <Nutter> not really... there's a huge chinese population in Vancouver (>50% iirc),
[12:03] <Yenal> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4005&review=Fujitsu+LifeBook
[12:03] <Yenal> this UMPC is really hot
[12:03] <Yenal> i am thinking of buying one. its under $1000
[12:04] <Yenal> some basic d3d game dev in the train maybe :) i dont know it would actually r
[12:04] <Yenal> i am sure its gonna run better with XP
[12:06] <Yenal> Nutter: how did you get your first job?
[12:09] <Nutter> applied with a pretty crappy portfolio containing an ogl demo that let you w
[12:10] <Nutter> admittedly it was pretty damn crappy :)
[12:11] <Yenal> damn i guess its now much tougher to get into the industry
[12:13] <aav> i don't know.. aren't there a lot less hobby coders? i mean the old home comput
[12:13] <aav> also depends on where you apply of course
[12:13] <Nutter> not necessarily - the industry is expanding very quickly, and most companies
[12:14] <Yenal> eventually they will run out of seniors :)
[12:15] <Yenal> aav: did your team complete the game?
[12:15] <Nutter> that's what I mean - there is a limited number of seniors, and they're very
[12:21] <aav> hey Yenal
[12:21] <aav> i dont know when we talked :)
[12:21] <Yenal> aav: its been a while
[12:21] <aav> i'm probably still working on that game :P but we're much further along
[12:21] <Yenal> you showed me screenshots
[12:21] <aav> bu how long?
[12:21] <aav> years?
[12:21] <Yenal> it was some medieval game i believe
[12:21] <Yenal> maybe 6 months
[12:22] <Ghaleon> seniors go senile
[12:22] <Yenal> it was looking pretty good at that time
[12:22] <Ghaleon> as for big payments and little work
[12:22] <Yenal> Ghaleon are you a senior now?
[12:22] <Ghaleon> I was always senile
[12:22] <Ghaleon> still waiting on the senior part
[12:23] <aav> hey Ghaleon
[12:23] <aav> hehe
[12:23] <aav> Yenal, yep we're talking to another party about it
[12:23] <Ghaleon> hai hai
[12:23] <aav> hey Nutter btw :P
[12:24] <MrFurious> senile senior slaqr
[12:24] <Yenal> this game developer magazine, is there anything in there that can help a noob
[12:24] <MrFurious> hi Ghaleon, aav_hlm, everyone
[12:24] <Ghaleon> remembar to take yer pillz, Furiouzo
[12:25] <Nutter> hey aav :)
[12:26] <aav_hlm> did you ever ship that d3d10 game? :)
[12:27] <Nutter> yeah, and promptly resigned (literally, we shipped it on my last day) ;)
[12:27] <Nutter> at a startup now, working on an unannounced title for Ubi
[12:28] <aav_hlm> haha :)
[12:28] <aav_hlm> cool!
[12:28] <aav_hlm> did you have a lot of problems with '10?
[12:28] <aav_hlm> (in the end)
[12:28] <Nutter> tons :/ Vista needed another year to bake
[12:29] <Nutter> lots of bugs in the core of Vista that aren't able to be fixed until SP1
[12:29] <MrFurious> </3 dx10
[12:30] <aav_hlm> jebus
[12:30] <MrFurious> </3 vista
[12:30] <aav_hlm> that's quite awful
[12:30] <Yenal> whats up with this dx10 for XP
[12:30] <Yenal> i thought it was exclusive for vista
[12:30] <Nutter> yeah, it was bad :/ Very hard to ship a game on new tech when most of the co
[12:31] <Nutter> early drivers didn't help either of course :P
[12:31] <aav_hlm> yeah
[12:31] <aav_hlm> i didnt know they removed the core team like that
[12:31] <aav_hlm> but it makes "sense"
[12:31] <Nutter> Yenal: it's pretty much BS - the real important things that make DX10 what i
[12:32] <Yenal> so its a crippled version
[12:33] <Nutter> not really crippled but more of a shiny covering on crap
[12:34] <MrFurious> well it has to happen, imo
[12:35] <MrFurious> fake hack or whatever
[12:35] <Nutter> DX10 can't achieve much (noticable/important) that wasn't already possible i
[12:35] <MrFurious> if dx10 doesnt happen on xp it could signal the fall of ms
[12:35] <MrFurious> dx10 (in some form or another)
[12:36] <Nutter> there's no need for DX10 on XP... like I say, XP is not able to do what make
[12:36] <Yenal> can you think of a world without Microsoft?? :)
[12:36] <Nutter> sure they could add SM4, improve the instancing, etc... but that is not what
[12:37] <einride> no, DX10 truely is a ploy to force vista upon the unwary masses ;)
[12:37] <MrFurious> right but if games say they require dx10, and dx10 requires vista, and vi
[12:37] <einride> i use vista... no issues with it
[12:37] <MrFurious> its already enough to push me permanently away for dx dev
[12:38] <MrFurious> opengl ftw
[12:38] <aav_hlm> just stay with d3d9 then
[12:38] <einride> i think most of the vista "issues" are people not understanding the new way
[12:38] <aav_hlm> and just wanting to complain.
[12:38] <MrFurious> aav why when i could hitch my cart to the opengl horse and have cross pla
[12:38] <Nutter> einride: hah :P As much as I hated shipping a DX10 game, it is actually *ver
[12:38] <Yenal> einride: there is one thing solid, the games run with a slower fps
[12:39] <aav_hlm> on one hand some people whine about security, then turn UAC off! (and bitch
[12:39] <einride> uac is the best part of vista
[12:39] <aav_hlm> MrFurious, because opengl REALLY is a piece of shit. It's also being comple
[12:39] <einride> finally something that makes the gfx artists here not install every trojan
[12:39] <MrFurious> aav: thats fine, i'm sure it'll be widely supported
[12:39] <aav_hlm> MrFurious, but you should learn OpenGL 3.0
[12:39] <aav_hlm> instead of 2.crap
[12:39] <MrFurious> i'm gonna
[12:39] <aav_hlm> :)
[12:39] <aav_hlm> ok then!
[12:40] <MrFurious> alright then!
[12:40] <MrFurious> wanna fight about it?
[12:40] <aav_hlm> fine by me!
[12:40] <MrFurious> well thats just DANDY.
[12:40] <MrFurious> lol
[12:40] <aav_hlm> MrFurious, http://youtube.com/watch?v=UfUv5t71_Xo
[12:40] <aav_hlm> :D
[12:40] <MrFurious> msFascism BS Edition+
[12:44] <MrFurious> so they are talking about dx10 for xp now then?
[12:45] <MrFurious> goddamn did my ceasless whining finally get through some thick msSkull ?!
[12:45] <aav_hlm> yeah, we should all thank YOU
[12:46] <MrFurious> as long as you realize that.
[12:46] <aav_hlm> did you watch the video yet, asshole?
[12:46] <MrFurious> i tried to but it was all laggy and lame so i'm letting it buffar
[12:46] <MrFurious> sec
[12:46] <aav_hlm> ah yea
[12:46] <aav_hlm> its the same over here
[12:46] <MrFurious> newp only got about a fifth of it cached
[12:46] <MrFurious> gonna let it all load up before i try to watc it
[12:47] <MrFurious> i'll let you know... DICKLESS
[12:47] <aav_hlm> :D
[12:47] <MrFurious> comment.append(insult(POINTLESS));
[12:47] <MrFurious> lol
[12:47] <MrFurious> yay my fucking buggy ass servar script is slightly less buggai
[13:05] <Nutter> lol, I just noticed that I hadn't read Slashdot in months for some reason, s
[13:05] <Nutter> Your Headline Reader Has Been Banned
[13:05] <Nutter> from Slashdot
[13:05] <Nutter> Your RSS reader is abusing the Slashdot server. You are requesting pages mor
[13:06] <einride> don't hammer.
[13:06] <Ghaleon> HAMMER TIME
[13:06] * Ghaleon hammers out
[13:07] <Nutter> hey, it's not me - they banned Google :P
[13:08] <Nutter> afaik, there's no way to specify update times in Google Reader (since it's d
[13:09] <Ghaleon> http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/01/pataponscreens.jpg
[13:12] <Cryovat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Utx1feLVs&feature=related
[13:12] <Cryovat> I need to try this once
[13:19] <MrFurious> k aav
[13:19] <MrFurious> that vid finally finished
[13:19] * MrFurious plays
[13:20] <MrFurious> lol
[13:22] <MrFurious> lol thats great
[13:23] <aav_hlm> mr show is great :)
[13:23] <aav_hlm> lol at stomping with the lawn mower
[13:23] <MrFurious> lol @ no sleeves ever
[13:24] <aav_hlm> hehe
[13:24] <aav_hlm> the end of it is a segue to another skit
[13:24] <aav_hlm> just fyi :P
[13:24] <MrFurious> k
[13:24] <MrFurious> did you see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxaXwwGUrXQ ?
[13:25] <MrFurious> lol love that
[13:25] <Ghaleon> that's what happens when you got women on the mind
[13:26] <MrFurious> you notice what a prick he turns into not half a second after she says th
[13:26] <MrFurious> she barely finishes the word
[13:27] <aav_hlm> ah i love that actor btw :)
[13:27] <MrFurious> dunno who he is but he's great
[13:28] <aav_hlm> was in Garth Marenghi's Dark Place
[13:28] <aav_hlm> brit
[13:28] <aav_hlm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNfQ0ORwSDM
[13:28] <aav_hlm> check this :)
[13:28] <aav_hlm> if you've got 20 mins
[13:28] <aav_hlm> heh
[13:33] <Ghaleon> who has are seen The Quest
[13:33] <Ghaleon> featuring Roger Moore and Van Dam
[13:35] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[13:42] <DrScratMD> http://wastingaway.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/brokeback-under-siege/
[13:52] <MrFurious> lol roger more and van damn
[13:52] <MrFurious> sounds *horrible*
[14:08] <Ghaleon> it was better than Bloodsport
[14:08] <Ghaleon> and it was also directed by Van Dam
[14:08] <Ghaleon> crazy I know
[14:09] <MrFurious> ever seen that scene from Breakin where vandamme is some gay extra in the
[14:09] <MrFurious> like in spandex shorts with roller skates on, dancing in a quite eh, libe
[14:10] <Ghaleon> has nots
[14:10] <Ghaleon> but I do remember him dancing in Bloodsports
[14:13] <MrFurious> its on fukung somewhere
[14:13] <MrFurious> http://www.toastedpixel.com/comic/clips/dancing/breakin.gif
[14:14] <MrFurious> oh, no skatez
[14:14] <MrFurious> lol TURBO
[14:14] <MrFurious> ever notice that the other guy, the leader, couldnt dance at all?
[14:14] <MrFurious> at no time was he ever forced to dance
[14:14] <MrFurious> cause he'd fail
[14:15] <Ghaleon> terminated?
[14:16] <MrFurious> i forget his name
[14:16] <MrFurious> he sucked tho
[14:16] <MrFurious> the guy with the hat
[14:16] <MrFurious> and the stupid parachute pants up around his nipples
[14:21] <_Butcher_> oh man 80s fashion ><
[14:21] <_Butcher_> I'd forgotten how bad it was :p
[14:23] * Ghaleon haqz the gibsons and dresses all Butcher's characters in 80s clothes
[14:23] <_Butcher_> :(
[14:24] * _Butcher_ gets his l33t haqer possie to haq the planet and reverse the changes!
[14:25] * Ghaleon makes sure Butcher must haq using phat 3D interfaces on 28.8 baud networks
[14:41] <MrFurious> lol
[14:41] <MrFurious> avs a plenty
[14:41] <MrFurious> cause i know all my console logins have special fx
[14:42] <MrFurious> dunno what kinda shit yall using
[14:42] <MrFurious> i like my consoles BLINGING
[14:44] * MrFurious rearranges your videotapes with roboarms
[14:45] * Disconnected
[14:45] * Attempting to rejoin channel #gamedev
[14:45] * Rejoined channel #gamedev
[14:45] -neobleed- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners, no
[16:55] <Ghaleon> Get To Tha Choppah is on tv
[16:56] <MrFurious> k
[16:57] <Ghaleon> what's the fury up to
[17:00] <MrFurious> hax
[17:00] <MrFurious> see i gots these rooms right
[17:00] <MrFurious> and they got user lists
[17:00] <MrFurious> but... they also gots game lists
[17:00] <MrFurious> of teh games
[17:01] <MrFurious> games got two of their own user lists
[17:01] <MrFurious> spectators and participants
[17:01] <MrFurious> and participants is split up into teams
[17:01] <MrFurious> and the whole thing makes me wanna kick puppies
[17:02] <MrFurious> i think i finally got it working tho
[17:02] <MrFurious> aside from the 'participants' and teams shit
[17:04] <MrFurious> wutz up with slakn
[17:09] <Nightshde> Anyone know if you have to handle Device Lost events in XNA? or does the
[17:11] <DrScratMD> depends
[17:11] <DrScratMD> some people handle lost events by eating bon bons and watching old movies
[17:11] <Ghaleon> sekrets of manas keeps krashin
[17:11] <Ghaleon> iz wutz
[17:11] <MrFurious> you are not ready
[17:11] <MrFurious> for the sekrit
[17:12] <MrFurious> anyone know if they've made a successfol nes emulator in flash yet?
[17:12] <MrFurious> that sounds fucking brutalicious
[17:13] <Cryovat> There's something perverse about writing an emu in an interprented language
[17:13] <Cryovat> BUt think I've seen it done
[17:13] <Cryovat> http://www.playnes.net/
[17:13] <MrFurious> oh yeah, it just sounds all kinds of wrong
[17:13] <MrFurious> i totally agree
[17:13] <MrFurious> but it'd be sweet in my chats
[17:14] <Cryovat> Hah, cheating
[17:14] <Cryovat> Java
[17:14] <MrFurious> oh well fuck that then
[17:14] <MrFurious> :(
[17:15] <MrFurious> java can go jump off the same cliff javascript should
[17:15] <MrFurious> the eternal cliffs of eversuck
[17:16] <MrFurious> looks like it does work tho
[17:16] <MrFurious> laggy as shit but works
[17:16] <DrScratMD> Your powers are weak old man. The javascript is weak in you.
[17:19] <Cryovat> Hmm
[17:19] <Cryovat> Supposedly Britney is planning to have a scientology wedding now
[17:20] <Ghaleon> they must have lured her with Raccoons Au Gratin
[17:20] <_kw> are you implying she's a trailer trash whore?
[17:21] <Cryovat> Since when did you need to imply that?
[17:21] <_kw> HOW DARE YOU MAKE FUN OF BRITNEY!?! HOW DARE YOU?!?! AFTER ALL SHE'S BEEN THROU
[17:21] <_kw> (youtube reference for those that think I'm really a britney fan)
[17:21] <Cryovat> LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE
[17:21] <_kw> good, you didn't then ;P
[17:21] <_kw> the silence worried me
[17:22] <_kw> like "uh oh.. maybe I was the only one in here that saw that vid"
[17:22] <Cryovat> Hehe
[17:23] <Cryovat> Hmm
[17:23] <Cryovat> Another article on Fark is wonderfully ironic;
[17:23] <Cryovat> 10 bald eagles who ate themself to death from a truckload of food waste
[17:24] <_kw> heh
[17:24] <_kw> see, there is a point when you feel like it's just evolution taking its course
[17:24] <_kw> if they're stupid enough to eat themselves to death en masse..
[17:25] <Cryovat> From an animal point of view it can make sense though
[17:25] <Cryovat> You don't know when your next meal will be, could be days from now
[17:25] <Cryovat> And there's a literal mountain of food in front of you
[17:25] <_kw> it should have a built in protection to see if the amount it's eaten is becomin
[17:25] <Cryovat> Heard that dogs too have the same problem
[17:26] <_kw> if(riskOfDeath(eatingMore) > riskOfDeath(starvtion_later))
[17:26] <_kw> break;
[17:26] <Cryovat> Or
[17:26] <Cryovat> if(riskOfStomachSackRupture) { EjectThatShit(); }
[17:27] <Ghaleon> or like that guy that got stuck between two rocks
[17:27] <Ghaleon> he chewed his way through his arm or something
[17:28] <_kw> I heard there are giant vultures in australia, that cause problems.. They have
[17:28] <Ghaleon> and lay down land mines?
[17:28] <_kw> but they're so heavy, and eat so much.. they actually have to fly off in a cert
[17:29] <Cryovat> Haha
[17:29] <Cryovat> Awesome
[17:29] <_kw> causing them to crash through the windshield and basically exploding with rotti
[17:29] <_kw> and in australia.. even if you don't die from that crash.. it's like 300km to t
[17:30] <_kw> a good anecdote to tell during dinners ;)
[17:30] <Ghaleon> you know what I have to say about that
[17:30] <Ghaleon> GET TO THA CHOPPAH
[17:30] <[Relic]> and if the temp is right by the time you get there your kangaroo will be do
[17:30] <_kw> I thought that was a Mr T reference.. but he hate flying
[17:30] <_kw> haha [Relic] yeah
[17:31] <_kw> imagine having to drive that through the burning sun afterwards
[17:31] <_kw> that can't be a pleasant experience
[17:31] <Cryovat> I'd shower for a week
[17:31] <_kw> Im fairly sure fresh open wounds + rotting kangaroo meat + hours, is not a grea
[17:31] <_kw> yeah man
[17:31] <[Relic]> depends on how fast it bakes and how much you like kangaroo :)
[17:31] <_kw> fucking soaking in a bath
[17:32] <_kw> heh well, most of it won't actually bake sadly
[17:32] <_kw> maybe the bits on the hood
[17:32] <_kw> but not the squishy parts on your lap ;(
[17:33] <_kw> also, even rotten skippy isn't good when cooked ;P
[17:33] <_kw> you'd need a fresh one
[17:33] <_kw> then it's actually quite good.. like beef, but healthier
[17:33] <_kw> had kangaroo on several occasions
[17:33] <_kw> had some at xmas even
[17:34] <Ghaleon> kangaroo brainz
[17:36] <_kw> is there a standard way in C++ to determine how many bits a number would need t
[17:37] <Ghaleon> I will shares the sekrets with you
[17:38] <kaotrix> sort: :)
[17:39] <kaotrix> 600 comments eh
[17:39] <Ghaleon> int numBits(const int val) { for (int i = 1; i <= 32; ++i) if ((1 <&l
[17:39] <kaotrix> bitwise math FTL
[17:39] <_kw> heh
[17:39] <Ghaleon> bit maff is awezome
[17:40] <kaotrix> I could never understand it
[17:40] <Ghaleon> 3y3 amz da bit maztor
[17:40] * Bibendum is now known as Minion
[17:40] <Ghaleon> Minionlenium
[17:40] <kaotrix> physics test tomorrow
[17:40] <kaotrix> don't feel like studying or going
[17:40] <Cryovat> Hey Ghaleon, are you named after the Harry Potter currency?
[17:41] <kaotrix> no
[17:41] <Ghaleon> wutz
[17:41] * Cryovat hides
[17:41] <Ghaleon> no
[17:41] <kaotrix> I think he's named after a game villian
[17:41] <Ghaleon> but yer mom wanted to see my magic wand
[17:41] <kaotrix> from an old RPG
[17:41] <Cryovat> Haha
[17:41] <kaotrix> probably from the SNES era
[17:41] <Nutter> ok... Antec suck :P My gf and I both have Antec PSU's (different models) wit
[17:41] <Nutter> yet, it turns out that Antec swapped the order of the wires between the two
[17:41] <kaotrix> s/gf/mom
[17:42] <Nutter> 2 drives just went up in smoke :(
[17:42] <Cryovat> Oh wonderful
[17:42] <Nutter> your mom, my gf.. same diff
[17:42] <Nutter> yeah :/
[17:42] <Ghaleon> Cheech and Chong would be proud
[17:43] <Nutter> "luckily" they were new, so hopefully no data lost, as long as the PSU didn'
[17:43] <Ghaleon> maybe it spit acid everywhere
[17:43] <kaotrix> I have no clue how you guys get the enthusiasm to go through school. I get
[17:43] <Ghaleon> or released the sealed in anthrax
[17:43] <Nutter> but then, the PSU could be toast too - the 3.3V line is showing 3.2
[17:43] <Ghaleon> kaotrix: find wimmen
[17:44] <kaotrix> can't talk to women
[17:44] <Ghaleon> mama wont let you?
[17:44] <kaotrix> no...
[17:44] <DrScratMD> mama said knock you out
[17:44] <kaotrix> I just...have a problem.
[17:44] <DrScratMD> erection problems?
[17:45] <kaotrix> no...
[17:45] <DrScratMD> so whats the problem
[17:45] <Ghaleon> the problem is a lack of booze
[17:46] <kaotrix> it's an unusual problem that's difficult to fix
[17:46] <kaotrix> rather not say...
[17:46] <DrScratMD> you're hideously deformed?
[17:46] <DrScratMD> you have both a vagina and a penis?
[17:46] <Ghaleon> he screams profanities
[17:47] <DrScratMD> you're half goat
[17:47] <kaotrix> lmao wtf
[17:47] * Bibendum is now known as Minion
[17:48] <DrScratMD> what % of people share this problemw ith you
[17:48] <kaotrix> ...let's change the subject
[17:48] <kaotrix> Ghaleon was the one who brought up women
[17:49] <Ghaleon> always will be
[17:49] <DrScratMD> do you have regular visits toa dcotr
[17:49] <kaotrix> no I'm not sick
[17:49] <Ghaleon> he just hasn't seen The Quest
[17:49] <Ghaleon> anyways
[17:49] <DrScratMD> are you afraid of full moons?
[17:49] <Ghaleon> who wants some bit maffs
[17:49] <kaotrix> ...
[17:49] <Cryovat> kaotrix problem is that he watched 2girls1cup
[17:49] <Cryovat> Now he's scared of women
[17:49] <Cryovat> Or rather
[17:49] <Cryovat> That something might come out of women
[17:49] <Ghaleon> scar'd for lyfe
[17:50] <Cryovat> Something that isn't babies
[17:50] <kaotrix> I don't fear women nor do I have a confidence problem.
[17:50] <DrScratMD> so, does hits problem show up visually or only when getting jiggy?
[17:50] <kaotrix> I'm not a vampire, warewolf, demon, half-goat, half-monkey, half-horse, zom
[17:51] <kaotrix> visually..
[17:51] <Ghaleon> (i * 6554) >> 16
[17:51] <DrScratMD> so you have been in a fire your dad set you on fire when you were a kid
[17:52] <kaotrix> no
[17:52] <kaotrix> I'll be silent now...
[17:52] <DrScratMD> the mob did
[17:52] <DrScratMD> you're a midget
[17:52] <DrScratMD> huhu
[17:53] <flashed> Ghaleon: you're hashing?
[17:54] <Cryovat> DrScratMD: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/horrors-of-porn/midget-porno-bat
[17:55] <Ghaleon> who iz hashin
[17:55] <Ghaleon> dat iz a div 10
[17:56] <kaotrix> http://duggmirror.com/comedy/100_Greatest_Quotes_from_fundamentalist_christ
[17:56] <kaotrix> :)
[17:57] <Ghaleon> slaqr
[17:58] <kaotrix> "You got it backwards.
[17:58] <kaotrix> Creationism is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence.
[17:58] <kaotrix> Evolution is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales
[17:58] <kaotrix> wow
[17:58] <kaotrix> lmao
[17:58] <kaotrix> "I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie"
[17:58] <kaotrix> This is fucking real comedy
[17:59] <SonistarL> haha
[17:59] <_kw> heh yeah, it's from a site called FSTDT
[17:59] <_kw> this one is my favourite:
[17:59] <_kw> I am a bit troubled. I believe my son has a girlfriend, because she left a dirt
[17:59] <Ghaleon> OHGNO
[17:59] <Ghaleon> A GERLFIEND
[17:59] <kaotrix> yeah just read that
[18:00] <kaotrix> "If u have sex before marriage then in Gods eyes u are married to that pers
[18:00] * _kw thinks Ghaleon missed the point
[18:00] <_kw> re-read that last one ghal ;)
[18:01] <kaotrix> Seriously though, what can be done about this? I don't think sitting here l
[18:01] <Ghaleon> I don't wanna ;D
[18:01] <_kw> To say the Bible was written by men and may contain inaccuracies completely con
[18:05] <DrScratMD> Average Rating: 4.15
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[18:05] <DrScratMD> Rate this quote:
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[18:05] <DrScratMD> Meh Fundie!
[18:05] <DrScratMD> [Replying to 'as for not seeing evolution it takes several million years.
[18:05] <DrScratMD> several million years for a monkey to turn into a man. oh wait thats righ
[18:06] <DrScratMD> How can anyone beleive we evolved from monkeys heres a few questions for
[18:06] <DrScratMD> 1.If we did evolve from monkeys then how come babies arent born monkeys
[18:06] <DrScratMD> 2.Even Darwin said his theories were wrong before he died so why do you s
[18:06] <DrScratMD> 3.do you really not believe the bible it says we were created in seven da
[18:06] <DrScratMD> 4.how come we cant speak monkey
[18:06] <_kw> haha yeah
[18:06] <_kw> I love his pathetic reasoning ;P
[18:06] <_kw> he has NO idea how evolution works.. or anything else :P
[18:07] <DrScratMD> To say the Bible was written by men and may contain inaccuracies complete
[18:08] <_kw> Ironic btw, I'm atm using a darwinistic method of optimization.. I just ran a t
[18:08] <_kw> I ran it like 5 mins ago for the first time :P
[18:08] <_kw> and I alt-tab back here, and see this ;P
[18:09] <Ghaleon> ;D
[18:09] <_kw> turns out, my entire project is a lie
[18:09] <_kw> it's not improving at all I guess
[18:09] <DrScratMD> god created your project
[18:09] <_kw> cos darwin was a liar
[18:09] <_kw> the bible says my experiment is flawed
[18:09] <_kw> so it must be
[18:10] <_kw> cos the two theories can't coexist :(
[18:11] <DrScratMD> Average Rating: 4.13
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[18:11] <DrScratMD> Meh Fundie!
[18:11] <DrScratMD> If the Bible is wrong when it tells us it is infallible, then it contradi
[18:11] <Ghaleon> I think the Time Cube site still pwnz this
[18:11] <Ghaleon> Scrat, datz like the 8th time someone's pasted that
[18:11] <DrScratMD> kw: they can exist together, there was a solution offered that neither ch
[18:12] <DrScratMD> The solution was that god created the world, but he created it with a his
[18:13] <DrScratMD> I forget the person who made that suggestion popular, was in the 1800s I
[18:14] <_kw> heh
[18:14] <_kw> that's stupid tho
[18:15] <_kw> you might as well say that the earth was only made 150 years ago
[18:15] <_kw> by that reasoning I mean
[18:15] <_kw> that everything from before that was put there by god
[18:15] <DrScratMD> it was made yesterday
[18:15] <_kw> so it wasn't really there 'before', but just made to look that way
[18:15] <DrScratMD> your entire life was a lie
[18:15] <DrScratMD> but you beleive it really happened
[18:16] <_kw> yeah, putting it so that even human memory is faked, then this could be the fir
[18:16] <DrScratMD> yup
[18:16] <DrScratMD> however
[18:16] <DrScratMD> it allows both ideas to exist simultaneiously
[18:16] <DrScratMD> huhu
[18:16] <_kw> heh
[18:17] <Ghaleon> I can't believe god cancelled Futurama
[18:17] <_kw> they make dvd movies now
[18:17] <_kw> first one's out
[18:17] <_kw> Bender's Big Score
[18:18] <kaotrix> God->Destroy( &God ) ;
[18:18] <_kw> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0471711/
[18:18] <_kw> tracert God
[18:18] <_kw> hm, seems he lives in my building
[18:18] <Ghaleon> I already saw the movie
[18:18] <Ghaleon> problem is, the next one isn't out!
[18:18] <_kw> ah ;P
[18:19] <_kw> awesome, the next one features stephen hawking
[18:19] <_kw> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054485/
[18:19] <kaotrix> Family Guy > Futurama
[18:19] <_kw> pft
[18:19] <_kw> in your dreams
[18:19] * _kw starts fighting
[18:20] <kaotrix> ORLY?
[18:20] <_kw> RLY
[18:20] <kaotrix> God->Destroy( &_kw ) ;
[18:21] <_kw> see, futurama would get both jokes.. family guy wouldn't have them, ever
[18:22] <kaotrix> hmm
[18:22] <kaotrix> Someones telling me about a documentary called, "Jesus Camp".
[18:22] <kaotrix> Anyone ever saw that?
[18:22] <Ghaleon> that one is scary
[18:22] <Ghaleon> better stay inside more
[18:22] <kaotrix> I'm curious.
[18:23] <kaotrix> Guess I'll watch it.
[18:24] <Ghaleon> just make sure you have a pillow to hold onto
[18:26] <_kw> heh
[18:26] <Ghaleon> it's truly disturbing and scary
[18:27] <_kw> I had a flatmate once, tough guy.. two meters tall, big on fitness.. but he was
[18:28] <Ghaleon> I just teach kittah to eat the spiderses
[18:37] <MrFurious> i seeth
[18:37] <MrFurious> with raw furious anger
[18:38] <MrFurious> nevar forget
[18:40] * Ghaleon feeds MrFurious to da kittah
[18:40] <MrFurious> !!!!
[18:41] <MrFurious> my gonads!
[18:41] <MrFurious> my precious gonads!
[18:41] <MrFurious> kittah foods
[18:47] <Ghaleon> slaqacide
[18:49] <MrFurious> lols
[18:49] <MrFurious> almost gots the mmowhiteboard workins
[18:50] <MrFurious> how incredibly stoopid
[19:37] <sort> hi
[19:44] <MrFurious> o_0
[19:47] <MrFurious> hi sort
[19:51] <Daveman> :p
[19:53] <MrFurious> hi Daveman
[19:54] <MrFurious> what up. man.
[19:54] <Ultyma> Hcsk
[19:55] <MrFurious> k
[19:59] <Daveman> :)
[19:59] <SonistarL> rargh
[19:59] <SonistarL> hey all
[20:03] <MrFurious> o/
[20:03] <Daveman> howdy
[20:03] * MrFurious draws shitty blocky boobs with his whiteboard shizzle
[20:04] <Daveman> :p
[20:06] <chai> lo
[20:06] <SonistarL> hows everyone doing?
[20:07] <Daveman> WELL
[20:07] * SonistarL jumps
[20:07] <DrScratMD> /msg everyone sonistarl wants to know how you are doing
[20:07] <DrScratMD> <everyone> fuck SonistarL
[20:08] <SonistarL> :/
[20:08] <chai> lol
[20:09] <chai> you better listen to what he says, he's a doctor ...
[20:10] <Daveman> I have always seriously questioned the medical credentials of Doctor Scrat.
[20:10] <Daveman> ¬_¬
[20:10] <chai> hehehe
[20:10] * chai is now known as DrChaiPHD
[20:10] <DrChaiPHD> I feel my e-penis growing already !
[20:10] <SonistarL> >.<
[20:11] * DrChaiPHD is now known as chai
[20:11] <chai> pheew, that was the longest erection I had this year >.<
[20:11] <DrScratMD> I see you found my photo on the web
[20:13] <Daveman> :P
[20:14] <Daveman> rofl
[20:14] <chai> hehehe
[20:14] <chai> your photo cures cancer DrScrat
[20:17] <chai> I heard you don't even use instruments for operations these times, you just st
[20:19] <_kw> the fact that they then fled from the hospital does not mean they were cured th
[20:27] <chai> heh
[20:28] <chai> you got a point there
[20:30] <_kw> :-P
[20:31] <_kw> my poor CPU
[20:31] <_kw> spending it's time bruteforcing atm
[20:34] <chai> getting hot here :/
[20:42] <_kw> heh
[20:43] <_kw> is there any way to both show std out in console *and* output to file?
[20:43] <_kw> cos I won't be staying awake much longer, so I piped it to file
[20:43] <_kw> but now I can't see what's going on
[20:43] <_kw> the file doesn't seem to have anything yet
[20:44] <_kw> even though it should
[20:44] <_kw> meh, fuckit.. I'll just go sleep
[20:44] <_kw> and see tomorrow what happens
[20:44] <_kw> (or happened)
[20:44] <_kw> if my CPU melts.. Im fucked. ;)
[20:47] <_kw> this is awesome
[20:47] <_kw> http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/researchers-create-beating-heart-lab-15218.html
[20:48] <Ultyma> your console has std's
[20:49] <_kw> :(
[20:57] * Bibendum is now known as Minion
[21:26] <MrFurious> lol speaking of melting processors...
[21:26] <Daveman> :D
[21:27] <Daveman> WHO SET ME UP TEH CYRIX!
[21:27] <MrFurious> setInterval + syntax error = FAIL
[22:47] <MrFurious> well i believe i have made the crappiest white board there ever was
[22:48] <MrFurious> pick any feature of a whiteboard and it either doesnt do it, or does it s
[22:48] <MrFurious> selection of drawing tools? you bet. you get (1).
[22:48] <MrFurious> selection of colors? sure! you get Black and/or Black.
[22:48] <sort> slacker
[22:48] <MrFurious> variable pen thickness? newp, not in the budget
[22:49] <MrFurious> zippy updates? HELL NO
[22:49] <MrFurious> in fact, it doesnt even draw shit in any rational order
[22:49] <Daveman> :p
[22:49] <MrFurious> and did i mention its slow as hell?
[22:49] <MrFurious> lol
[22:51] <MrFurious> i cant think of any way it could be worse unless it snuck up on you while
[22:51] <MrFurious> lol
[22:51] <MrFurious> ohhh! errors! nice.
[23:27] * FMRefs is now known as FMJaguar
Session Close: Mon Jan 14 00:00:00 2008