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Session Start: Sat Jan 12 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:48] * cheezediq is now known as directhex
[01:12] <JoeLlama> Hi :)
[01:12] <chai> helloooo
[01:14] <JoeLlama> do you guys design games using FPGA here or what is this channel all about
[01:16] <chai> this channel is a collection of people involved in game development, both hobb
[01:16] <chai> for example, I don't do programming but rather realtime 3d for nextgen games
[01:21] <JoeLlama> neat :)
[01:21] <JoeLlama> <--- embedded systems engineer
[01:21] <JoeLlama> I do hardware and software design using RTOSes but I don't know fpga yet
[01:21] <DrScratMD> You done with FPGA ya you know me
[01:21] <JoeLlama> I thought kevtris might be here but he's not.
[01:22] <JoeLlama> DrScratMD?
[01:24] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[01:24] <Dr_Rambo> my brother does FPGA
[01:24] <Dr_Rambo> *I think*
[01:24] <JoeLlama> it's neat stuff.
[01:24] <Dr_Rambo> I don't think FPGA has anything to do with game programming though
[01:25] <JoeLlama> there is even a #fpga channel for people who wanna learn.
[01:25] <JoeLlama> oh yes Dr_Rambo
[01:25] <Dr_Rambo> I thought FPGA are hardware programming
[01:25] <JoeLlama> people on #hwdev make FPGA systems that emulate games.
[01:25] <Dr_Rambo> for gates and stuff
[01:25] <JoeLlama> very well.
[01:25] <JoeLlama> yes
[01:25] <Dr_Rambo> ohh
[01:25] <Dr_Rambo> u mean game emulators
[01:25] <JoeLlama> but you can emulate processors and vga controllers
[01:25] <JoeLlama> yup
[01:25] <Dr_Rambo> like arcade games?
[01:25] <Dr_Rambo> hmm okay, cool in that case, then yes
[01:25] <JoeLlama> no, like um,... well you'd yhave eto ask on like #nesdev and #hwdev
[01:25] <JoeLlama> they know :)
[01:25] <JoeLlama> yes yes
[01:27] <Dr_Rambo> well
[01:28] <Dr_Rambo> I think most ppl here are just PC game programmers
[01:28] <Dr_Rambo> most*
[01:29] <DrScratMD> Some people are recovering crack addicts trying to get their lives back t
[01:29] <Dr_Rambo> Ghaleon might know something, he does game programming on NDS
[01:29] <Dr_Rambo> although I don't know anyone who program for Sega arcade system yet
[01:29] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[01:30] <Dr_Rambo> LOL DrScrat
[01:32] <DrScratMD> Larry King: So, tonight we have a very special guest who is here to talk
[01:32] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[01:32] <DrScratMD> John Rambo: I'm fine sir
[01:32] <DrScratMD> Larry King: You've been through a lot. You've been in Afganistan, in Vie
[01:32] <DrScratMD> John Rambo: Murdock. I'm comming for you
[01:32] <DrScratMD> Larry King: I thought that you already killed Murdock?
[01:33] <DrScratMD> ohn Rambo: Oh, right, that's just my alzheimers
[01:33] <DrScratMD> Larry King: So, you've had a few love interests like Co and Sarah but you
[01:33] <DrScratMD> John Rambo: I'm gay for Trautman.
[01:33] <DrScratMD> Larry King: So John, I hear that you're getting your own daytime talk sho
[01:33] <DrScratMD> John Rambo: Yes, The John Rambo Show will be on ABC weekdays from 3pm to
[01:34] <Dr_Rambo> it's Bo
[01:34] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:34] <Dr_Rambo> HAHA
[01:35] <Dr_Rambo> I think they call it Ho Chi Ming city now. not Hanoi
[01:35] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:36] <Dr_Rambo> oh wait, that's Saigon
[01:36] <DrScratMD> Towers of Ho Chi Ming just doesnt sound right
[01:36] <Dr_Rambo> you know what's funny
[01:36] <DrScratMD> Rambo in a dance recital?
[01:37] <Dr_Rambo> I met a Vietnamese friend who's father owns a Vietnamese restaurant called
[01:37] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:37] <realtime> its true theres going to be a rambo 4? or its some hoax, prolly based on t
[01:37] <Dr_Rambo> and then we were talking about Vietnam and stuff, and we were saying the c
[01:38] <Dr_Rambo> he never knew it got renamed
[01:38] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[01:38] <DrScratMD> Haha
[01:38] <Dr_Rambo> and he keep on insisting it's Saigon
[01:39] <Dr_Rambo> and he i the vietnamese, not me
[01:39] <DrScratMD> when ddi they rename it
[01:39] <DrScratMD> perhaps because of the rock group Saigon Kick
[01:39] <DrScratMD> they had to rename it
[01:39] <Dr_Rambo> I think right after Saigon fell
[01:39] <Dr_Rambo> 1976 or something
[01:39] <DrScratMD> haha
[01:39] <DrScratMD> that's a long time ago
[01:40] <Dr_Rambo> yeh
[01:40] <Dr_Rambo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saigon
[01:40] <Dr_Rambo> it's rename in 1976
[01:40] <Dr_Rambo> probably the year he was born
[01:41] <DrScratMD> is Vietnam still communist or did that fall
[01:41] <Dr_Rambo> still communist
[01:42] <Dr_Rambo> communist capitalist
[01:42] <DrScratMD> Hanoi is the captial of vietnam
[01:42] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:43] <Dr_Rambo> yeh, I guess
[01:43] <Dr_Rambo> I guess we were both wrong LOL
[01:43] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:44] <Dr_Rambo> realtime, I thought Rambo 4 is out
[01:44] <Dr_Rambo> there was even a trailer of it
[01:44] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462499/
[01:44] <DrScratMD> VietCong: "Now that we have claimed South Vietnam, we will make Towers of
[01:45] <Dr_Rambo> hmm 2008 now
[01:45] <Dr_Rambo> in a month time. hehe
[01:45] <realtime> yeah I just checked IMDB
[01:45] <realtime> its going to be released soon
[01:45] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[01:45] <Dr_Rambo> oh I wanna visit Hoochie Momma City
[01:46] <DrScratMD> Release Date:25 January 2008 (USA)
[01:46] <DrScratMD> woo, like, 2 weeks
[01:46] <DrScratMD> yet never see it advertise
[01:46] <DrScratMD> Is it going straight to video?
[01:46] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:47] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[01:47] <Dr_Rambo> probably
[01:47] <DrScratMD> "Stallone originally set out to make this film before Rocky Balboa (2006)
[01:47] <Dr_Rambo> nobody wants to see grandpa owning ppl's arse
[01:47] <DrScratMD> Perhaps Staloon was taking his Rocky character too seriously, because a g
[01:47] <Dr_Rambo> HAHA
[01:47] <Dr_Rambo> I guess he must be a model driver
[01:48] <DrScratMD> Tagline:Heroes never die.... They just use viagra and depends.
[01:49] <DrScratMD> Jessica alba's new file
[01:49] <DrScratMD> http://www.theeyethefilm.com/
[01:49] <DrScratMD> the eye
[01:49] <DrScratMD> maybe its the red eye
[01:49] <chai> that's the american version of the asian horror movie ?
[01:49] <DrScratMD> rather it be the pink lips
[01:49] <DrScratMD> donno, its a hot american version of a mexican
[01:49] <DrScratMD> jessica alba
[01:49] <chai> heh
[01:50] <chai> heh this is so silly
[01:50] <DrScratMD> so she's blind
[01:50] <DrScratMD> gets a eye
[01:50] <Dr_Rambo> I want to see her pink eye
[01:50] <DrScratMD> then the original owner wants them back
[01:50] <chai> so funny when they take a good asian movie, and strap a sillicon babe on it wi
[01:50] <chai> bloody americans
[01:50] <DrScratMD> sounds like the horro movie from the 80s
[01:51] <DrScratMD> there was one then, body parts I think i twas called
[01:51] <DrScratMD> Tagline:The transplant was a success. Then the donor came to take it back
[01:51] <DrScratMD> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101492/
[01:51] <DrScratMD> Body Parts (1991)
[01:52] <DrScratMD> The Eye is a remake of Jian Gui, which stands for Windows GUI Application
[01:52] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[01:53] <Dr_Rambo> wasn't there a lot of movies like that
[01:53] <Dr_Rambo> about transplants
[01:53] <DrScratMD> man with two brains
[01:53] <Dr_Rambo> Renanimators
[01:53] <DrScratMD> brain dead
[01:53] <Dr_Rambo> or something
[01:53] <DrScratMD> Reanimator I believe was a HP lovecraft story
[01:54] <DrScratMD> that became a movie, but was about bringing people back
[01:54] <DrScratMD> or something
[01:54] <realtime> exactly
[01:54] <DrScratMD> HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE YOUR WINDOWS GUI?
[01:54] <DrScratMD> When it was made on a mac?
[01:54] <DrScratMD> The Gui
[01:54] <chai> nah that's not what the movie is about
[01:54] <DrScratMD> Starring Bill Gates
[01:54] <chai> basic on an asian movie from like 6 years ago I think
[01:55] <chai> eyes used to belong to a psychic girl, and were donated to that blind chick
[01:55] <chai> so she sees ghosts and shit
[01:55] <DrScratMD> well, the premise is that she gets body parts from someone else
[01:55] <DrScratMD> and then some crap happens because of the original owner
[01:55] <Dr_Rambo> borrring
[01:56] <DrScratMD> I'm waiting for "The Tits", staring Pam Anderson. What do you do when yo
[01:56] <Dr_Rambo> I think this movie is similar but much much better
[01:56] <Dr_Rambo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(film)
[01:56] <Dr_Rambo> Blink is a 1994 thriller/Psycho Noir/Mystery, starring Madeleine Stowe and
[01:56] <Dr_Rambo> I really like that one
[01:56] <chai> why paste a wiki site with nothing in it heh
[01:56] <DrScratMD> is blink the one that ends where she's blind?
[01:57] <DrScratMD> andin a car garage
[01:57] <DrScratMD> and someone's trying to kill her
[01:57] <chai> ahh the link didn't go right :)
[01:57] <Dr_Rambo> can't remember
[01:57] <DrScratMD> and she can't see them
[01:57] <DrScratMD> huhu
[01:57] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109297/
[01:57] <chai> man I can't wait to watch the new rambo
[01:57] <DrScratMD> the girl from 12 monmkeys
[01:57] <Dr_Rambo> it's basically Madeleine Stowe got her eye sight restored
[01:57] <Dr_Rambo> and but everything is blurred
[01:57] <Dr_Rambo> and some killer killed someone infront of her
[01:57] <DrScratMD> ya
[01:57] <DrScratMD> I saw that
[01:57] <Dr_Rambo> beliving she is blind..
[01:58] <Dr_Rambo> etc
[01:58] <Dr_Rambo> Madeleine Stowe is hawt MILF
[01:58] <Dr_Rambo> huhu
[01:58] <DrScratMD> how about The Dick, staring John Bobbit. He gets a dick transplant from
[01:59] <DrScratMD> "its my dick, its not me"
[01:59] <DrScratMD> "bend over"
[01:59] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[01:59] <Dr_Rambo> HAHA
[02:00] <Dr_Rambo> no such movie
[02:00] <chai> lmao
[02:00] <DrScratMD> huhu
[02:00] <Dr_Rambo> would have been awesome
[02:00] <DrScratMD> "What are you doing here?" "You don't remember me?" "no, who the fuck ar
[02:01] <chai> you mean *ouch my eye, Oh, it's you "
[02:01] <DrScratMD> huhu
[02:01] <DrScratMD> "I haven't sucked you off in a long time" <music starts>
[02:02] <DrScratMD> that happens every day, I live a porno life. When I go to work, I'm in a
[02:03] <chai> that sounds as legit as your phd
[02:03] <DrScratMD> it happens because I own a mac
[02:03] <DrScratMD> and I have iPornolife
[02:04] <DrScratMD> I didn't spend years working on my PHD not to get the recognitition I des
[02:04] <DrScratMD> Years and years of hard work just so I could /nick Dr
[02:04] <chai> <DrScratMD> I didn't spend years working on my PHD.
[02:05] <DrScratMD> you're right, it was a decade
[02:05] <DrScratMD> because I had no money
[02:05] <DrScratMD> I had to strip my way through a PHD
[02:05] <DrScratMD> and btw, you're a lousy tipper
[02:06] <DrScratMD> you tip as good as chopper read
[02:07] <chai> sorry I was expecting a guy before you took your underwear off
[02:07] <chai> anyway I'll go disguise myself as a couch potatoe
[02:09] <DrScratMD> I'm an 18 year old cheerleader
[02:09] <realtime> ASL!!?11
[02:09] <DrScratMD> 18/F/brazil
[02:10] <realtime> hahaha
[02:10] <Dr_Rambo> why do ppl ask for ASL anyway
[02:10] <Dr_Rambo> it's not like "18/F/Next door! " is ever going to happen
[02:10] <DrScratMD> huhu
[02:11] <DrScratMD> should ask for BCS
[02:11] <DrScratMD> Bank account Credit card Social security #
[02:12] <DrScratMD> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/m4w/533096562.html can u believe stallm
[02:15] <DrScratMD> http://www.twistedradio.com/images/flash/chatroom.asp old but good
[02:15] <DrScratMD> huhu
[02:24] <aav_hlm> DrScratMD heh
[02:25] <aav_hlm> he forgot "mutual disinterest in hygiene"
[02:26] <aav_hlm> "I still have room to love a sweetheart if she doesn't need to spend time w
[02:26] <aav_hlm> heh
[02:28] <violator> :))))
[02:32] * violator replies to single atheist white man, 54
[02:32] <aav_hlm> violator, påminner lite om Lars Brundin, Spemarharen... blond/tjock/konstig
[02:32] <aav_hlm> Spermaharen
[02:32] <violator> heh ja
[02:33] <aav_hlm> :P
[02:33] <aav_hlm> "jag tycker väldigt illa om berrrörring"
[02:39] <chai> hahaha Rambo, good one ^^
[08:05] <Marenz> how does 2d rendering without opengl work? for example firefox's or opera's
[08:18] <_kw> what do you mean by 'how does it work'/
[08:19] <_kw> you get a canvas to draw on, and you draw :P
[08:19] <_kw> in windows, it's a HDC
[08:19] <_kw> opera uses Qt
[08:19] <_kw> so it doesn't use the windows stuff directly
[08:19] <_kw> but it's all the same concept anyway
[08:19] <_kw> make a canvas.. use Pen/Brush/Text/etc etc to draw on it
[08:57] * aav_hlm2 is now known as aav_hlm
[09:04] <MrFurious> so
[09:04] <MrFurious> lets talk about catching people using bots in ur games
[09:05] <MrFurious> how do yall deal with it
[09:05] <MrFurious> like punkbuster etc
[09:15] <_Butcher_> I don't
[09:16] <Madsy> Your best bet is to keep your game popular enough to get revenue, but unknown
[09:17] <MrFurious> unacceptable
[09:17] <MrFurious> i need some sort of
[09:17] <MrFurious> auto assraping ninja bot
[09:17] <Madsy> With "bots", I assumed you meant aimbots.
[09:17] <MrFurious> i do
[09:18] <MrFurious> the assraping bot would be finding them and pwning them up the ass to dea
[09:19] <Madsy> Unless you want to use some sort of DRM scheme, cheating will a war never tru
[09:20] <Madsy> Most gamers have accepted this. They usuallyy just play with friends, or peop
[09:20] <Madsy> -y
[09:21] <MrFurious> hmm
[09:21] <Madsy> The problem at hand isn't to find suspicious behaviour. The problem is to be
[09:21] <MrFurious> yeah you're prolly right
[09:21] <MrFurious> ya
[09:22] <MrFurious> seems like a bot could be baited tho
[09:22] <Madsy> The day you ban someone innocent, is the day your popularity goes down the dr
[09:22] <MrFurious> like you give it headshot data to an invisible nonexistant enemy
[09:22] <MrFurious> and see who aims at it
[09:22] <MrFurious> ban em, etc
[09:23] <Madsy> Which would be a flaw like I said above.
[09:23] <Madsy> Not to mention that most aimbots wouldn't fall for it.
[09:24] <MrFurious> assraping autoninjas
[09:25] <Madsy> In the games derived from quake, the aimbot fetches the entity list, and auto
[09:25] <Daveman> :o
[09:25] <Madsy> It doesn't care about the other entities.
[09:25] <MrFurious> how do punkbuster and shit work
[09:26] <Madsy> It is a system-wide hook that observes the process memory.
[09:26] <Daveman> hah
[09:26] <MrFurious> hai Daveman
[09:26] <MrFurious> whatup m8
[09:26] <Daveman> Hello Mr. Furry
[09:26] <Madsy> And make sure that all DLL exports are what they claim to be.
[09:26] <Daveman> ^_^
[09:26] <MrFurious> !!
[09:26] <Madsy> makes*
[09:27] <MrFurious> i wonder if flash can kinda help here
[09:27] <Madsy> An easy way to cheat before, was to make OpenGL wrappers.
[09:27] <MrFurious> cause i should be albe to say 'only run this shit from this url'
[09:27] <Daveman> -_-
[09:27] <MrFurious> 'never run it locally'
[09:27] <Daveman> sure you can
[09:27] <MrFurious> or from local cache that is
[09:27] <MrFurious> so that should take care of a lot of it right there
[09:27] <Madsy> MrFurious: What about people that run their own local DNS? :-)
[09:27] <MrFurious> who the hell hacks a fucking flash game
[09:28] <MrFurious> hmm
[09:28] <MrFurious> well i dunno if they'd be able to connect to the socket server then
[09:28] <Madsy> Of course they can.
[09:28] <_Butcher_> people could easily hack the app to connect somewhere else
[09:28] <MrFurious> the flash and socket server need to be on the same domain
[09:28] <_Butcher_> unless you control the machine where code is going to run, it can be hack
[09:29] <MrFurious> according to flash's bullshit security sandbox bullshit anyways
[09:29] <_Butcher_> which is why mmos do most if not all important stuff server side
[09:29] <MrFurious> did i mention its bullshit
[09:29] <MrFurious> yeah all game logic will be executed server side
[09:29] <MrFurious> pretty much all of it
[09:30] <MrFurious> fkin bots make me... sooo... angry.......
[09:30] <Madsy> If people using my wifi access don't reside in the mac adresss list, I change
[09:30] <Madsy> Kind of fun to redirect people to different web pages.
[09:30] <_Butcher_> and then they hack your DNS? :p
[09:32] <Madsy> In that case, it would be a story for the press.
[09:34] <MrFurious> haxhaxhax
[09:34] <MrFurious> i hakt ur gibson
[09:35] <Daveman> :o
[09:35] <Daveman> omg hax!
[09:36] <MrFurious> !!
[10:04] <Ghaleon> ur gibzonz be haqrd
[10:25] <Cryovat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDPTKn7HiY
[10:25] <Cryovat> Now here's something completely random
[10:34] <MrFurious> cant haq my gibson
[10:34] <MrFurious> its got antislaqr protections
[10:34] <MrFurious> and huge flaming firewalls
[10:38] <Ghaleon> frum da baq
[10:38] <MrFurious> !!
[10:49] <_kw> I..
[10:49] <_kw> I don't know what to say Cryovat
[10:50] <Ghaleon> Goldeneye for XBLA cancelled ;/
[10:52] <Ghaleon> Cryovat obviously loves teh pony
[10:53] <_kw> I just.. I..
[10:53] * _kw sobs
[10:53] <MrFurious> ZOMGPONIEZ!!!!
[11:00] <entheh> Ghaleon: Ghaleon !!!
[11:02] <Ghaleon> ¡¡¡ entheh entheh
[11:03] <Ghaleon> how goes?
[11:03] <entheh> how are you Ghaleon ???
[11:03] <Ghaleon> DS solds more than PS2 in japans = lawls
[11:03] <Ghaleon> I be ok
[11:03] <Ghaleon> partay tonights
[11:03] <entheh> I know what I doing !!!
[11:03] <entheh> yaaay :D
[11:03] <Ghaleon> T minuz 6 hourz to partay
[11:03] <entheh> actually I don't - I'm bored XD
[11:03] <Ghaleon> slaqz!
[11:03] <entheh> and my bike has a puncture, again
[11:04] <entheh> I wrote to the council and asked if they could clean the bit of path that I
[11:04] <entheh> the one that I can avoid but have to go away from main roads in order to do
[11:09] <Cryovat> Dies illa :o
[11:11] <entheh> I s'pose I could cycle round the roady bits instead of using that path
[11:12] <entheh> it'd be dangerous though XD
[11:16] <GhaleonXD> :O
[11:16] <Daveman> :D
[11:30] <entheh> :O
[11:31] * Cryovat eyes opportunity, unzips
[11:42] <MrFurious> lol
[11:52] <Ghaleon> huhuz
[11:52] <MrFurious> huhu
[11:52] <MrFurious> slaqr
[11:52] <MrFurious> whatchya gonna do now
[11:52] <MrFurious> wihtout ur ops
[11:53] <MrFurious> i could just sit here and berate you all day
[11:53] <MrFurious> and theres nothing you could do about it
[11:53] <MrFurious> stinky-face
[11:53] <MrFurious> mcfartypants
[11:53] <MrFurious> see
[11:53] <MrFurious> nothing
[11:55] <MrFurious> i stand by my insults
[11:55] <MrFurious> I REGRET NOTHING
[11:57] <Daveman> :D
[12:00] * Ghaleon defeats MrFurious by making him take anger management courses
[12:00] <MrFurious> :(
[12:01] <MrFurious> anger management courses make me... soo..... angry!!!!
[12:01] <Daveman> :)
[12:01] <MrFurious> they do not appear to be working
[12:01] * Ghaleon injects MrFurious with prozac
[12:02] * MrFurious simmers with rage
[12:02] * Daveman spices MrFurious
[12:03] * MrFurious sticks to the bottom of the pan and makes it very difficult to clean
[12:03] <Daveman> :\
[12:04] * Ghaleon casts PAM lvl 99
[12:07] * MrFurious equips +2 Spatula of Stirring
[12:08] <Daveman> :D
[12:13] <kaotrix> Ghaleon
[12:13] <kaotrix> Animal Cookies 0.9 is almost here
[12:13] <kaotrix> brase urselves!!
[12:13] <kaotrix> lol c wat i did tharr??
[12:14] <kaotrix> lolcat speek ftw
[12:14] <MrFurious> also dongs
[12:14] <Daveman> :p
[12:15] <Ghaleon> :O
[12:15] <Ghaleon> i can has variable
[12:15] <Ghaleon> kthx
[12:15] <Daveman> lawl
[12:16] <MrFurious> yall aint ready for my mmopong
[12:16] <kaotrix> God->destroyPpl( "Nerds", 0xFF ) ;
[12:16] <MrFurious> its too advanced
[12:17] <kaotrix> lol hai
[12:17] <MrFurious> your feeble minds would simply explode if you were to even try to compreh
[12:17] <MrFurious> hai2u
[12:17] <kaotrix> lol i c
[12:18] <kaotrix> lolcat speek > ghalspeek
[12:18] <kaotrix> They're both similar now that I think about it.
[12:18] * Ghaleon releazez da kittahz
[12:18] <kaotrix> I seriously need to make an adventure with kittens.
[12:18] <kaotrix> The game's entire dialogue will be in lolcat speek.
[12:18] <MrFurious> kittah quest
[12:19] <Ghaleon> I once thought about making a shooter game
[12:19] <Ghaleon> and a kittah was going to follow you around the whole time
[12:19] <kaotrix> lmao wtf
[12:19] <MrFurious> lol
[12:19] <MrFurious> did it do anything?
[12:19] <Ghaleon> no
[12:19] <MrFurious> or just pleasure itself from time to time
[12:19] <kaotrix> It would be like Link and the fairy.
[12:19] <Ghaleon> yesch
[12:19] <Ghaleon> play wif dead bodies
[12:19] <MrFurious> lol
[12:19] <MrFurious> nice
[12:20] <MrFurious> do it
[12:20] <MrFurious> do it now
[12:20] <kaotrix> The kitten could have psychic abilities and possess your opponents.
[12:20] <MrFurious> and make them do silly dances
[12:20] <Ghaleon> newbz
[12:20] <MrFurious> not me
[12:20] <Ghaleon> da kittah is for pettingz
[12:20] <MrFurious> i r teh leet
[12:20] <kaotrix> The game could have graphics like Crysis.
[12:20] <MrFurious> advanced kittah physiks
[12:21] <MrFurious> for maximum invisible bicycling
[12:21] <kaotrix> The kitten could have his own nanosuit too.
[12:21] * kaotrix codes Kitty Wars for the X-Box 360
[12:21] <MrFurious> mmo
[12:21] <MrFurious> ktnx
[12:22] <MrFurious> mmk even
[12:22] <DrScratMD> Kitty Wars for the X BOX!
[12:25] * MrFurious adds geigh whiteboard to his chats
[12:28] <kaotrix> Breaking News: Will Smith is gay.
[12:32] <Ghaleon> only when he isn't busy saying "daaaaaaaaaaaaamn"
[12:33] <MrFurious> OH HELL NAH!
[12:34] * MrFurious punches an alien in the face in a nonthreatening black way.
[12:34] <Ghaleon> I GOTTA GIT ME ONEA DEEZ
[12:34] <Ghaleon> WELCOME TO EARF
[12:34] <MrFurious> lol
[12:35] <MrFurious> see if u was will smif u wuda just made 50 bazillion dollas Ghaleon
[12:35] <Ghaleon> :(
[12:35] <MrFurious> so sad
[12:35] <Ghaleon> yeh but then I'd make Willenium and lose it all
[12:35] <MrFurious> lol
[12:36] <MrFurious> Return to Castle Willenstein
[12:36] <kaotrix> lmao forgot he was a rapper
[12:36] <MrFurious> ACHTUNG!
[12:36] <kaotrix> getting giggy wit it
[12:36] <kaotrix> or however you spell it
[12:36] <kaotrix> http://crazyasians.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/img_7370.jpg
[12:36] <Ghaleon> now this is a story all about how my life got flip turned upside down
[12:36] <Daveman> ZE GOGGLES
[12:36] <MrFurious> 'penis'
[12:36] <Ghaleon> while don't ya just take a minute to sit right there and I'll tell you all
[12:37] <MrFurious> kaotrix thats definately a dude
[12:37] <_kw> ZEY DO NOZZING!
[12:37] <Daveman> :]
[12:37] <Ghaleon> I'd hit it
[12:37] <Ghaleon> WIF A BASEBALL BAT
[12:37] <MrFurious> you'd have to move his penis out of the way first
[12:37] <Daveman> :o
[12:37] <kaotrix> lmao
[12:37] <kaotrix> wtf
[12:37] <_kw> heh, everything about her just shouts "HOOKER"
[12:38] <MrFurious> about him
[12:38] <MrFurious> him.
[12:38] <_kw> whatever
[12:38] <MrFurious> you say that now
[12:39] <MrFurious> but when you're living the crying game
[12:39] <Ghaleon> shim
[12:39] <MrFurious> it'll be a diff story
[12:39] <MrFurious> yes
[12:39] <MrFurious> she-him.
[12:39] <Ghaleon> it's like She-Hulk
[12:39] <Ghaleon> but less feminine
[12:39] <MrFurious> she hulk was sexai
[12:39] <MrFurious> i'd hit it
[12:39] <MrFurious> carefully
[12:39] <Ghaleon> hit it before it hits u
[12:39] <MrFurious> and then run
[12:40] <Ghaleon> into a nuclear bunker
[12:40] <MrFurious> i dont think that'll be good enough
[12:41] <Ghaleon> a nuclear bunker on pluto
[12:41] <MrFurious> i need some foods
[12:41] <MrFurious> yes
[12:41] <Daveman> NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED
[12:41] <Ghaleon> ZERG RUSH'D
[12:41] <Daveman> kekeke
[12:41] <MrFurious> whats shehulk period like i wonder
[12:41] <Ghaleon> half the planet was lost
[12:41] <MrFurious> prolly some seriously seriously super serious scary shit
[12:42] <MrFurious> w00t robocock
[12:42] <MrFurious> love this song
[12:42] <MrFurious> its so juvenile
[12:42] <Ghaleon> u liek MC Chris?
[12:42] <MrFurious> hell yes i do
[12:42] <MrFurious> my backbacks got jets
[12:42] <MrFurious> i'm bobba, the fett
[12:42] <MrFurious> i bounty hunt for jabba hut
[12:42] <MrFurious> to finance... my vette
[12:43] <Ghaleon> the tussin the tussin, robocop couldn't stop me from pukin and flushin
[12:43] <MrFurious> any rap about how small someones penis is just rocks
[12:43] <Ghaleon> lawlz
[12:43] <MrFurious> mcchris and djqbert need to make many babies
[12:44] <MrFurious> scratchy sarcastic highpitched babies
[12:45] <MrFurious> instead of crying they'll just go WICKAWICHA
[13:47] <MrFurious> nevar misunderstimate my ANGER
[13:48] <MrFurious> it is huge
[13:48] <kermit`_> that's what she said
[13:48] <MrFurious> huge throbbing rage
[13:50] <Ghaleon> throbbing veiny rage
[14:07] <aav_hlm> MrFurious, count to 0x0A
[14:11] <Ghaleon> count to 1010
[14:11] <MrFurious> lol
[14:13] <MrFurious> tint = setInterval( new Function( { trace(count--); If (count ==0) { clea
[14:14] <Sonistar> rargh
[14:14] <Sonistar> hey all
[14:14] <MrFurious> hi
[14:15] <MrFurious> i can sympathize wif ur rage
[14:16] <aav_hlm> you can sympathise wif bein on the rag
[14:17] <MrFurious> dont make me angry aav
[14:17] <MrFurious> you wouldnt like me when i'm angry
[14:17] <Sonistar> hows everyone doing?
[14:17] <MrFurious> angry.
[14:17] <Sonistar> MrFurious: sup?
[14:18] <aav_hlm> ssh, he's angry
[14:18] <MrFurious> working on my chats
[14:18] <MrFurious> raging
[14:18] <Sonistar> :(
[14:18] <MrFurious> ya know. the usual.
[14:18] <aav_hlm> raging bullshitter
[14:18] <MrFurious> yes
[14:19] <aav_hlm> i gotta rage to bed anyway
[14:19] <MrFurious> aav seen mystery men?
[14:19] <chai> hehe
[14:19] <MrFurious> you should, its funnai :)
[14:19] <aav_hlm> rage on you shiny little man
[14:19] <aav_hlm> hmm?
[14:20] <MrFurious> lol
[14:20] <MrFurious> the movie
[14:20] <MrFurious> mystery men
[14:20] <aav_hlm> ah
[14:20] <MrFurious> very funny
[14:20] <aav_hlm> interesting
[14:20] <aav_hlm> never seen this
[14:20] <aav_hlm> i will :)
[14:20] <aav_hlm> anyway nite
[14:20] <aav_hlm> hi nights and night
[14:20] <MrFurious> night
[14:25] <Ghaleon> Secret Of Nightma
[14:44] * Disconnected
[14:45] * Attempting to rejoin channel #gamedev
[14:45] * Rejoined channel #gamedev
[14:45] -neobleed- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners, no
[14:50] <MrFurious> having a hard time thinking of a situation where a whiteboard is actually
[14:50] <chai> whiteboard ?
[14:50] <Ghaleon> all the times
[14:50] <chai> is that the online thing people draw together ?
[14:50] <MrFurious> arranging landscaping?
[14:50] <MrFurious> chai ya
[14:50] <Ghaleon> drawin newdie pix
[14:50] <Ghaleon> drawin dongs
[14:50] <MrFurious> see thats all i can think of
[14:50] <Ghaleon> playing tic tac toe
[14:50] <MrFurious> boobs and dongs
[14:50] <Ghaleon> pictionary
[14:50] <chai> heh
[14:50] <MrFurious> no i'll have better tic tac to games
[14:50] <chai> it's nice for concept art and critic
[14:50] <Ghaleon> guess my numbah
[14:51] <Ghaleon> hangzmen
[14:51] <MrFurious> mmoguessthenumber
[14:51] <Ghaleon> kittah quest
[14:51] <MrFurious> lol
[14:54] <MrFurious> seriously tho wtf does anyone use a whiteboard fo
[14:54] <MrFurious> 'put da buttons over here plz!'
[14:55] <MrFurious> 'logo...HERE....buttans...HERE! and then you <swirly motion> make i
[15:02] <kaotrix> Ghaleon
[15:02] <kaotrix> hell fucking yes
[15:02] <kaotrix> Animal Cookies is completely done now
[15:02] <kaotrix> hahah
[15:02] <kaotrix> now to upload all the pages, images and database information
[15:03] <MrFurious> is there longcat?
[15:03] <MrFurious> eLongcat?
[15:07] <Ghaleon> there is monster cat
[15:07] <Ghaleon> maine coonz
[15:08] <MrFurious> is it looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong?
[15:09] <Ghaleon> http://mainecoonkittens.co.uk/193_9364_copy.jpg
[15:10] <ht7z> fatty catty
[15:11] <Ghaleon> he'z toit liek a tyger
[15:11] <Ghaleon> http://mcgonnigle.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/coonbig.jpg
[15:11] <Saq> racist
[15:12] <Saq> holy shit that's a big cat
[15:12] <Saq> or a tiny woman
[15:12] <chai> I wonder what 3d model I should do next to sell ...
[15:12] <chai> holy crap ghal
[15:12] <chai> that's garfield ?
[15:12] <Ghaleon> lawls
[15:12] <Ghaleon> chaifield
[15:12] <chai> hehehe
[15:13] <Ghaleon> heafcliff mutharfawkers
[15:13] <chai> wouldn't mind being held by the cat behind it :)
[15:13] <MrFurious> chai
[15:13] <MrFurious> giant 3d schlong
[15:13] <chai> I didn't know you're into schlongs :]
[15:14] <MrFurious> i'm not
[15:14] <MrFurious> who told you that
[15:14] <MrFurious> its a damn lie
[15:14] <MrFurious> and if you tell anyone....
[15:14] <Saq> he prefers the male anus
[15:14] <chai> hehe
[15:14] <MrFurious> its not gay if theres no eye contact
[15:15] <chai> but seriously, as game devs what kind of models would you consider buying most
[15:15] <chai> I aint making no more shields, hehe
[15:15] <Ghaleon> lawlz
[15:15] <chai> awww MrFurious
[15:15] <Ghaleon> what about like
[15:15] <Ghaleon> buildings
[15:15] <kaotrix> Ghaleon: The cat in the first link is a domestic cat?
[15:15] <Ghaleon> or vehicleses
[15:15] <Ghaleon> yes
[15:15] <kaotrix> It looks like a baby/teenage Lynx
[15:15] <Ghaleon> they are all domestics
[15:15] <kaotrix> look at the ears
[15:15] <Ghaleon> they are mostly show cats now
[15:16] <Ghaleon> http://www.fogcitycat.com/r_b.jpg
[15:16] <Ghaleon> brain eaters
[15:16] <Saq> make cats chai
[15:16] <Saq> i never see cat models in games!
[15:16] <Saq> and i need to see them now
[15:16] <chai> heh
[15:16] <Saq> we needz lolcatz online
[15:16] <chai> man I bet that girl gives great head
[15:16] <chai> :)
[15:17] <MrFurious> chai hmm i dunno what kinda models i'd need
[15:17] <MrFurious> rigged lowmesh dudes i guess
[15:17] <chai> I mostly do nextgen stuff
[15:17] <MrFurious> basic mobs?
[15:17] <chai> last thing I've made - http://www.svartberg.com/gallery/pic/shieldpack.html
[15:18] <chai> rigged lowmesh dudes ... Mmm
[15:18] <MrFurious> boars, orcs, bats etc
[15:18] <chai> haven't done those for a while
[15:18] <Ghaleon> I need next gen shields
[15:18] <MrFurious> tree's
[15:18] <MrFurious> at several levels of meshiness
[15:18] <Saq> armored cats
[15:18] <chai> too many trees on turbo already :)
[15:18] <Ghaleon> cats + armor + lasers
[15:19] <Saq> == win
[15:19] <MrFurious> i stand by my giant schlong suggestion
[15:19] <chai> but thanks, didn't think of the lod thing
[15:19] <MrFurious> yeah i had to make my own
[15:19] <chai> your own schlong ?
[15:19] <MrFurious> my own giant schlong
[15:19] <MrFurious> in several levels of detail
[15:19] <MrFurious> so if you see it from a half mile away its not like it cripples your vid
[15:20] <chai> what about that - http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/x-autumn-trees/298527
[15:20] <chai> not good enough for ya ?
[15:20] <MrFurious> not really no
[15:20] <chai> how come ?
[15:21] <MrFurious> the branches look assey
[15:21] <MrFurious> none of them look like climbable trees
[15:21] <chai> you're a picky biatch :)
[15:21] <MrFurious> no lod degredation that i can see
[15:21] <Saq> what r u making a tree climbing game or something
[15:21] <chai> true
[15:21] <MrFurious> ya
[15:21] <MrFurious> i am
[15:21] <MrFurious> problem with that?
[15:21] <Saq> lol
[15:22] <MrFurious> huh
[15:22] * MrFurious fights about it
[15:22] <Saq> ya lets fight!!
[15:22] * MrFurious kicks your ass
[15:22] <MrFurious> rematch?
[15:22] * MrFurious kicks your ass again
[15:22] <MrFurious> you remember what i did to you this day.
[15:22] * Saq begs for mrfurious to stop
[15:22] * Ghaleon counters with tiger claw 20X6
[15:23] <MrFurious> lol
[15:23] <MrFurious> 'and how do i defend against eh the jews?'
[15:23] <MrFurious> 'say they attack at me with their jew claw'
[15:23] <Saq> crazy kazickstanians
[15:23] <MrFurious> <3 borat
[15:24] <MrFurious> well all this t hinking is making my brain hurt
[15:24] <MrFurious> i'm gonna go put some serious effort into fucking off
[15:37] <kaotrix> ok guys
[15:37] <kaotrix> here it is
[15:37] <kaotrix> Animal Cookies 0.9 : http://talitha.cvk.ca/AnimalCookies
[15:39] <Ghaleon> http://209.85.165.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%
[15:40] <Ghaleon> kittah armor
[15:47] <Saq> lol nice
[15:47] <Saq> that's the most awesome thing i've seen all day!
[15:47] <kaotrix> Saq: thanks
[15:48] <Saq> wasn't talking to you!
[15:48] <kaotrix> ...
[15:48] <Saq> was talking about cat armor
[15:48] <Saq> sorry!
[15:51] <Saq> i think u should buy some for your cat ghaleon
[15:53] <sort> http://talitha.cvk.ca/AnimalCookies/Pages/Vote.php?page=
[15:53] <frob-> I has a cat ghaleon? I want to put armor on my ghaleon cat.
[15:53] <frob-> This one. http://jeffdeboer.com/Galleries/CatsandMice/tabid/77/moduleid/433/
[15:54] <frob-> But then remount the stick so it comes out from under his chin.
[15:54] <frob-> Then I could watch my ghaleon cat do a pole vault.
[15:54] <kaotrix> sort: thanks
[15:54] <kaotrix> sort: Guess I should do more error checking.
[15:54] <kaotrix> Although going to that link is impossible unless you deliberately remove th
[15:55] <kaotrix> Sucks that I have to protect my site from numerous cases of mis-usage.
[15:56] <Cryovat> What's your site?
[15:56] <kaotrix> I still need to put a boring terms of services document somewhere
[15:56] <kaotrix> Animal Cookies 0.9 : http://talitha.cvk.ca/AnimalCookies
[15:56] <Cryovat> Ah
[15:56] <Cryovat> Lolcat blog?
[15:56] <kaotrix> lolcat site
[15:56] <kaotrix> not a blog
[15:58] <Cryovat> Does misuse happen much?
[15:58] <sort> any time you have a webform with a sql back end
[15:59] <sort> wait until the spammers find your site :)
[16:00] <kaotrix> I could put: if( $page_num < 0 || $page_num > $page_cnt ) to check th
[16:00] <kaotrix> no idea what to do about ?page=
[16:00] <sort> if you cast it to an int it will turn into a zero
[16:01] <kaotrix> that's what I did
[16:01] <kaotrix> $page_num = intval( $_GET[ 'page' ] ) ;
[16:02] <kaotrix> http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.intval.php
[16:02] <sort> if you start counting at 1, then if its outside of the valid range, set it to
[16:05] <kaotrix> ha
[16:06] <kaotrix> looks like I won't be coding any professional sites anytime soon
[16:06] <Saq> lol
[16:06] <kaotrix> :(
[16:07] <Cryovat> Well, you are using PHP
[16:07] * Cryovat runs
[16:08] <kaotrix> yeah I know
[16:08] <kaotrix> the language REALLY sucks
[16:08] <kaotrix> I won't deny that.
[16:09] <kaotrix> beautiful
[16:09] <kaotrix> fixed the error sort
[16:09] <kaotrix> let me upload itn ow
[16:09] <kaotrix> *it now
[16:11] <kaotrix> done
[16:13] <kaotrix> afk for a bit
[16:13] <SonistarL> hey all
[16:25] <Anddos> can devcpp compile directx stuff?
[16:33] <Thoys> Anddos, it worked for me once
[16:33] <Thoys> theres tutorials for it
[16:34] <Thoys> but why use devcpp?
[16:34] <Thoys> Visual C++ 2005 Express and 2008 Express are free for download
[16:36] <sort> lol i has new exploit http://talitha.cvk.ca/AnimalCookies/Pages/ShowCookie.php
[16:37] <Cryovat> Hmm
[16:37] <Cryovat> Why do you allow html? D:
[16:37] <sort> i think he just allows bold
[16:37] <sort> but he allows bold with js events :)
[16:37] <Cryovat> Doh'
[16:38] <Cryovat> That's why you should use bbcode
[16:38] <sort> let me vote 1 million times
[16:38] <sort> because im bored
[16:38] <sort> brb
[16:42] <sort> name='id=6' looks sketchy
[16:44] <sort> wonder what would happen if i made that name='title=6' :D
[16:44] <Cryovat> Finally finished Symphony of the Night
[16:59] <MrFurious> Thoys i dunno maybe if you wanted to compile stuff that other computers c
[16:59] <MrFurious> lol
[17:00] <MrFurious> 'express' = fast track to a mantrain
[17:00] <johnb> Muh, are there any tutorials on how to handle multiple game objects? Lets say
[17:01] <Saq> well u could do a linked list or an array
[17:01] <Saq> array would be faster
[17:01] <Saq> but not as dynamic
[17:01] <MrFurious> has a lot to do with what language you're working in
[17:03] <Saq> tru
[17:03] <johnb> I'm working with C++
[17:03] <johnb> Thanks for the answer Saq
[17:06] <flaxed> and depends on the optimizations you want to do
[17:06] <flaxed> you need to sort em in any way=
[17:06] <flaxed> ?
[17:08] <johnb> I just want to make sure I keep track of them all. A bullet is fired, then it
[17:10] <chai> you actually have a bullet object, what kind of game are you making ?
[17:10] <chai> because usually in games there's only one calculation phase for a bullet
[17:11] <chai> but I'll shut my mouth now, I'm not a programmer :)
[17:11] <johnb> I created a simple struct, which has the speed, and coordinates of the bullet
[17:12] <johnb> I guess I could just create a bool Alive which I can then check for when shoo
[17:12] <johnb> muh
[17:13] <chai> well i asked because
[17:13] <chai> if you bullets are fast as in reallife, you might not need to do calculations
[17:14] <johnb> the only calculation I do is update the y position and then draw my sprite at
[17:14] <chai> but I really need to shut up now, don't want to take advice from me :)
[17:14] <johnb> lol :)
[17:16] <MrFurious> so hey johnb
[17:16] <MrFurious> i've done lots of what youre describing
[17:16] <MrFurious> is there some specific question you're trying to figure out?
[17:18] <Daveman> :p
[17:18] <johnb> Okay, I'll lay it down for you. When a bullet is fired, I let my rendering cl
[17:19] <johnb> So that I can pretty much fill the screen with bullets and what not, but stil
[17:19] <MrFurious> hmm
[17:20] <MrFurious> well heres what i did
[17:21] <MrFurious> first its helpful to have two basic classes of stuff, bullet emitters ("g
[17:22] <MrFurious> let the gun control the rate ammo is converted into active projectiles, t
[17:22] <MrFurious> i had functions that would get executed each update for each type of ammo
[17:22] <MrFurious> onUpdate, onImpact, onDamage etc
[17:24] <MrFurious> onUpdate would typically take the amount of time that had passed, multipl
[17:25] <johnb> Okay
[17:26] <MrFurious> again tho, how to do it so you can have a screen full of them flying arou
[17:26] <MrFurious> www.thehatred.com/boxacide
[17:26] <MrFurious> thats a pre-alpha of my boxacide engine
[17:26] <MrFurious> rewriting that now actually
[17:26] <MrFurious> its all flash
[17:27] <MrFurious> that layout i described was great for everything from 9mm's to flamethrow
[17:27] <johnb> Haha, that's great fun. The game you put up there.
[17:28] <MrFurious> thanks yeah its pretty popular actually
[17:28] <kaotrix> back
[17:28] <kaotrix> sort
[17:28] <kaotrix> haha
[17:28] <kaotrix> js events eh
[17:28] <MrFurious> P to add more people, R to repair the environment, +/- to change zoom
[17:28] <kaotrix> guess I shouldn't allow html at all
[17:29] <Saq> i'm in ur firefox crashing ur browser
[17:30] <Saq> boxacide sez 2 me
[17:30] <MrFurious> yes
[17:30] <MrFurious> it'll do that :(
[17:30] <MrFurious> i'm recoding
[17:30] <MrFurious> hopefully with less of the crashes
[17:30] <MrFurious> its the damn ai
[17:30] <MrFurious> its unhappy
[17:31] <kaotrix> today is the day I go back to gamedev!!
[17:31] <kaotrix> bitch I'm da don
[17:32] <kaotrix> sort: Keep the exploits coming
[17:32] <johnb> MrFurious: Thankfully, my first goal is to finish this really simple 2D shoot
[17:32] <kaotrix> I have no idea what to do about the submission exploit
[17:32] <kaotrix> it was on the old version of the site too
[17:34] <Saq> what's the exploit
[17:34] <kaotrix> After you hit the submit button you repeatedly refresh the page
[17:34] <kaotrix> and the vote is re-submitted each time
[17:34] <Saq> oh
[17:34] <kaotrix> same with uploading a pic and sending an e-mail to me...through the report
[17:35] <Saq> either make a cookie that stores there vote
[17:35] <Saq> or store their ip in a sql table
[17:35] <kaotrix> I use a session variable
[17:35] <Saq> ip in sql is best prolly
[17:35] <kaotrix> I'll try that, thanks.
[17:35] <Saq> werdups
[17:36] <Saq> itz saqure
[17:36] <Saq> saquirity
[17:44] <vame> Wooho. our company got some funding to go to GDC
[17:45] <chai> GDC ?
[17:46] <johnb> if I was to venture a guess, game development conference
[17:46] <johnb> or smt
[17:46] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[17:46] <Daveman> :)
[17:47] <[Relic]> :)
[17:50] <vame> yeah, game developers conference.
[17:50] <chai> cool :]
[17:50] <chai> where do you work at ?
[17:51] <vame> Tumbleweed Interactive. a small game developer up in Norway just started about
[17:51] <chai> I better go cook something
[17:51] <chai> ahh cool :]
[17:52] <vame> www.tumbleweedinteractive.com
[17:52] <chai> ye looking at it now
[17:53] <Cryovat> vame: Hva by? :o
[17:53] <Cryovat> Hmm, Hamar
[17:53] <vame> Cryovat, Hamar
[17:54] <Cryovat> Cool to see a norwegian dev
[17:54] * Cryovat gets vid
[17:54] <Cryovat> Not bad :)
[17:55] <Cryovat> Reminds me of Wipeout
[17:55] <Daveman> :D
[17:55] <Daveman> hva gjør du?
[17:56] <vame> he, are you both norwegians?
[17:56] <Thoys> its 3 am there
[17:57] <Thoys> and bloody cold
[17:57] * Cryovat er "trønder"
[17:58] <vame> Cryovat, do you have a company, or are you a hobby developer?
[17:59] <Cryovat> Just a student :)
[18:02] <vame> Cryovat, cool. are you participating in the norwegian game challange thing?
[18:03] <johnb> are the other team members in tumbleweed demosceners?
[18:04] <Cryovat> Planning to, yeah
[18:08] <vame> johnb, two of us are demosceners. me and Christer
[18:09] <johnb> ah, alright. So I guess that they're great when it comes to rendering techniq
[18:11] <vame> I think we'll announce it as under development or something simular very soon.
[18:11] <vame> *similar
[18:13] <Cryovat> What platform?
[18:13] <Cryovat> Btw
[18:13] <Cryovat> Underline the links on your site or something :P
[18:13] <johnb> Cryovat, what type of games do you develop?
[18:13] <johnb> Or rather, what have you planned for NGA
[18:14] <Cryovat> It'll be a schmup style thing
[18:14] <Cryovat> With twists, of course ;)
[18:14] <vame> Cryovat, I know, they should be.. the whole site should be pimped up with more
[18:15] <Cryovat> You participating johnb?
[18:15] <vame> johnb, and yeah.. the demoscene is a great playground for playing with render
[18:15] * vame is the graphics programmer :)
[18:16] <johnb> I am thinking about it, but I need to spend a lot more time on actually devel
[18:16] <vame> I love shooters!!
[18:16] <johnb> 2D shooters :/ Nooot so much!
[18:17] <vame> Cryovat, I have a dream design in my head for a vertical scrolling shooter
[18:17] <Cryovat> Cool :D
[18:17] <Cryovat> I'm a big fan of the genre
[18:17] <Cryovat> johnb: I actually prefer 2d over 3d
[18:19] <johnb> From what I have seen at the NGA website, the competition will boil down to d
[18:20] <vame> live arcade 3 player coop vertical scrolling shooter with three different clas
[18:21] <vame> good thing about game development, you can share your ideas with people, becau
[18:22] <Cryovat> And more importantly - it comes down to details
[18:22] <Cryovat> It's not that you have physics puzzles, it's how you use them
[18:22] <johnb> is TWI a hobby project, or are you guys doing it full time?
[18:24] <vame> johnb, full time. so our fingers is crossed for some government funding or som
[18:24] <Cryovat> johnb: Which team is using TOrque?
[18:25] <johnb> Don't you get funding if you develop games for children? :P
[18:25] <vame> Duckers is brilliantly gifted. learn stuff from him :)
[18:25] <johnb> Cryovat: Err, can't remember -- sec
[18:25] <johnb> Build & Run
[18:26] <vame> johnb, nah. you get funding if you have a good project. it's a plus if it has
[18:27] <Cryovat> Hehe
[18:28] <Cryovat> You can also apply for funding from Filmfondet or whatever it's called
[18:28] <Cryovat> Funcom got a lot of cash for Dreamfall that way
[18:29] <johnb> Have you checked out Frontend2 yourself vame?
[18:29] <vame> yeah, that was what I was thinking about.. I guess you could get money from de
[18:29] <Cryovat> vame: http://www.filmfondet.no/iCM.aspx?PageId=11
[18:29] <Cryovat> "Norsk filmfond kan ikke gi tilskudd til interaktive opplæringsprosjekter,
[18:29] <Cryovat> So a pure game project
[18:29] <Cryovat> Up to 1,5 mill
[18:29] <vame> johnb, yeah, I've looked over his engine.
[18:30] <Cryovat> Is it good?
[18:30] <johnb> The verdict? Heard that kusma had criticised it
[18:31] <Cryovat> Don't know kusma
[18:31] <vame> johnb, I didn't look indepth enough to really make up my mind
[18:31] <vame> but criticism is always good. What did kusma say?
[18:31] <vame> good in that it will lead to a better product in the end
[18:32] <johnb> Most of it should be in this thread; http://www.demoscene.no/forum/viewtopic.
[18:32] <johnb> Starts at the third post
[18:36] <vame> johnb, kusmas points are valid yeah
[18:37] <vame> johnb, it's probably not something you would use for something professional st
[18:40] <vame> johnb, my thread on there has been quite quiet :p
[18:40] * chai_ is now known as chai
[18:40] <johnb> Mmm, I'll give it a go. Muh, I guess I should have gone with a game specific
[18:40] <Cryovat> Hmm
[18:40] <Cryovat> johnb, where are you at?
[18:40] <johnb> UiO
[18:41] <Cryovat> Ah, ok
[18:41] <johnb> vame: Haven't had time to read much of what's on that forum just yet - I gues
[18:42] <vame> Dunno. but people should get active in the scene and do more! :)
[18:44] * MrFurious considers game/chat room structure
[18:44] <MrFurious> k so
[18:44] <MrFurious> heres what i'm thinking
[18:45] <MrFurious> just considering outloud here
[18:45] <MrFurious> the server has rooms/channels, whatever you want to call em. also users.
[18:45] <MrFurious> rooms have userlists composed of currentusers
[18:45] <MrFurious> rooms also have gamelists, referenced by name
[18:46] <MrFurious> games also have userlists, two of them
[18:46] <MrFurious> spectators and participators
[18:48] <MrFurious> fek
[18:48] <MrFurious> so game updates propogate to all spectators, but can only be created by p
[18:48] <MrFurious> and game creation/deletion work a lot like channel join/parts
[18:49] <MrFurious> does all this sound reasonable to yall
[18:50] <vame> why have users and currentusers, what does a user that is not a current user r
[18:51] <vame> oh, a user is just a record of someone registered with the system, or?
[18:51] <MrFurious> right
[18:52] <MrFurious> current users are logged in
[18:52] <MrFurious> allusers are every user ever
[18:52] <vame> a database would be quite usefull if you are to store users for your online sy
[18:52] <MrFurious> yes indeed
[18:52] <MrFurious> i'll likely tie this in with some sort of php/mysql backend admin system
[18:52] <vame> and remember to avoid duplicating data as well
[18:53] <MrFurious> aye
[18:53] <MrFurious> i tink i'm recreating yahoo games
[18:53] <MrFurious> wuteva tho
[18:53] <MrFurious> i bet yahoo games makes shit tons of money
[18:53] <MrFurious> i wants the monies
[18:54] <Cryovat> MrFurious: Why not "cheat"?
[18:54] <Cryovat> A private irc server or something
[18:54] <Cryovat> With join/part and active channel tied to the current game
[18:55] <MrFurious> was thinking about that
[18:55] <MrFurious> i dunno tho
[18:55] <MrFurious> seems like i'd have to retrofit too much
[18:55] <MrFurious> already have a nice server made in python
[18:55] <MrFurious> just keep expanding it out
[18:55] <MrFurious> it handles pretty much unlimited number of connections
[18:55] <MrFurious> very low latency
[18:58] <MrFurious> asynch/nonblocking sockets, all that happy shit
[19:56] <vame> johnb, are you going to attend tg?
[20:25] <FMRefs> only thing that seems strange is why a room would have a gamelist
[20:25] <FMRefs> usually a room refers to where a single game session takes place
[20:26] <FMRefs> well i guess it depends on the structure
[20:26] <FMRefs> something like yahoo games could do that, matchmaking from the chatroon
[21:13] <MrFurious> yah its kinda yahoo gamish
[21:13] <MrFurious> chatrooms per game topic
[21:13] <MrFurious> then actual games per chatroom
[21:17] <_kw> omg, can't wait til the new indy movie
[21:18] <_kw> been hoping for a new one to come out for ages
[21:18] <_kw> about 20 years even
[21:19] <_kw> 2 and 3 were both awesome
[21:19] <_kw> and given the preparation that went into 4.. it'll be good at the least
[21:25] <chai> indiana jones ?
[21:25] <_kw> ya
[21:25] <_kw> new one coming out in may
[21:25] <chai> that dude is too old
[21:26] <_kw> naw
[21:26] <chai> is he gonna kill bats with his grandpa stick ?
[21:26] <_kw> harrison ford has aged nicely
[21:26] * flaxed is now known as flashed
[21:26] <chai> heh
[21:26] <chai> then again I can't wait for the new rambo movie
[21:26] <chai> shiat, I heard he kills like hundreds of people in it
[21:26] <Dr_Rambo> did someone called my name
[21:27] <_kw> http://www.comingsoon.net/images/firstindy4pic.jpg
[21:27] <_kw> he looks a bit older if you look closely
[21:27] <chai> he's as hard as his hat is ragged
[21:27] <_kw> but he's never been the young lad type
[21:27] <chai> old*
[21:27] <chai> ahh english was never my thing :]
[21:28] <_kw> heh
[21:28] <_kw> where you from?
[21:28] <chai> originally from israel, but living in australia these days
[21:28] <chai> I loved the old indiana jones movies
[21:28] <_kw> ford is young enough to pull it off
[21:28] <_kw> don't worry about that
[21:28] <_kw> Im just disappointed that connery isn't playing his dad
[21:29] <_kw> he was an old crank even in the old movies
[21:29] <_kw> so he should be able to do it now
[21:29] <chai> I'm happy how this turned out - 200tris only one texture - http://www.svartber
[21:29] <_kw> but he in the end decided not toi
[21:29] <_kw> -i
[21:29] <chai> true
[21:29] <_kw> hm
[21:29] <_kw> I'd feel worried using that
[21:29] <chai> why ?
[21:29] <_kw> the part near the handle is too thin
[21:29] <_kw> it'd snap off
[21:30] <chai> well it's going to the trash bin, was just good practice
[21:30] <chai> who gives a fuck :)
[21:30] <_kw> me ;)
[21:30] <chai> games weapons never make sense
[21:30] <_kw> well
[21:30] <chai> and handle is too thick actually
[21:30] <_kw> that depends on scale ;P
[21:30] <_kw> if it's a shortsword the handle is fine
[21:30] <_kw> but compared to the size of the blad, the connection with the handle is still t
[21:30] <chai> http://www.albion-swords.com/images/swords/johnsson/smbrescia.jpg
[21:31] <_kw> that's a really thin handle
[21:31] <_kw> but a sturdy blade
[21:31] <chai> whatever
[21:31] <_kw> I do like the style of the handle on your sword btw, and the trible on the blad
[21:32] <_kw> tribal*
[21:32] <_kw> I just don't agree with the shape of the blade
[21:32] <_kw> :)
[21:33] <_kw> as a thin middle part you could do something like http://www.mwart.com/images/p
[21:33] <_kw> which works because the rest of the sword is pretty thin too
[21:34] <_kw> so it doesn't put too much pressure on that one point
[21:34] <_kw> look at this tho.. http://jodysamson.com/images/swords/11-2-06/short-angular-fa
[21:36] <_kw> omg, I love this guy's style
[21:36] <_kw> http://jodysamson.com/swords.htm
[21:36] * _kw bookmarks
[21:36] <chai> good stuff, thanks for the link
[21:37] <_kw> np, good for some inspiration I reckon
[21:37] <_kw> he makes some very awesome looking sword, in fairly different styles
[21:38] <chai> really awesome
[21:38] <chai> saving all the images to disk :)
[21:38] <_kw> hehe ;P
[21:38] <_kw> I would so love to have swords like that
[21:38] <chai> I like this design, simple yet effective - http://jodysamson.com/images/swords
[21:38] <_kw> yeah
[21:38] <_kw> it's simple, to the point, and still somehow very beautiful and elegant
[21:39] <_kw> I'd love to be able to make swords like this
[21:39] <_kw> not that it'd be any use.. but imagine the fun :P|
[21:40] <_kw> hah, there's even a page 2 with a few more ;P
[21:40] <_kw> http://jodysamson.com/images/swords/1-11-05/yatagan1a.jpg
[21:40] <_kw> that seems so very very simple
[21:40] <_kw> and for some reason I still love it
[21:41] <_kw> urgh, http://jodysamson.com/images/swords/6-27-06/curved-sword.jpg
[21:41] <_kw> I need cash to buy these :(
[21:42] <chai> oh no way
[21:42] <chai> page 2 ?
[21:42] <_kw> just a few there
[21:42] <_kw> like 5
[21:44] <_kw> haha
[21:44] <_kw> http://jodysamson.com/images/jodysamson.jpg
[21:44] <_kw> he's like a medieval swordsmith
[21:44] <chai> holy crap
[21:44] <chai> thanks again for the link
[21:44] <chai> this is really invaluable
[21:46] <_kw> np dude, found his page just now on google. dont even know what I searched for
[21:46] <_kw> but yeah, his work is awesome
[21:46] <DrScratMD> [21:46] <DrScratMD> http://jodysamson.com/images/jodysamson.jpg Fu
[21:47] <_kw> hurray for german cynicism that defeats the point
[21:48] <ryan[WIN]> LOL
[21:48] <ryan[WIN]> scrat
[21:48] <ryan[WIN]> LOL
[21:49] <_kw> ?
[21:52] <_kw> http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSEIC17037920080111?feedType=R
[21:52] <_kw> LONDON (Reuters) - A couple discovered after they had married that they were tw
[21:52] <_kw> ffs :P
[21:52] <MrFurious> lol
[21:53] <MrFurious> 'sis, i ever tell you ya got a purdy mouth?'
[21:53] <_kw> thats messed up ;P
[21:53] <_kw> "woo! I got a sister?!? what's her name?!?"
[21:53] <_kw> "Mary Johnson!"
[21:53] <_kw> "... she... omfg I FUCKED MY SISTER"
[21:59] <MrFurious> lol
[22:49] * DrScrat is now known as DrScratMD
[23:19] <chai> _kw, that bases my theory that siblings don't wanna have sex not because they'
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