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Session Start: Sun Jan 06 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamedev
[01:39] <bgilb> i made a game design
[01:39] <flashed> congrats
[01:39] <FMRefs> | o |
[01:39] <FMRefs> ^^^ my game
[01:40] <DrScratMD> your game is the devil
[01:40] <bgilb> do you guys want to hear it
[01:40] <FMRefs> DrScratMD, thats the nicest thing i've heard all day
[01:41] <bgilb> all i need is a team now
[01:42] <Rangar> Please put your game design in an A4 envelope, and place it in the 'I have a
[01:42] <Rangar> And sadly, yes, that is exactly how it goes
[01:43] <Rangar> There are lots of competent people here, esp. programmers and designers.. bu
[01:45] <bgilb> im an artist already :P
[01:46] <Rangar> yes, but you're just one
[01:46] <bgilb> im also a programmer :P
[01:46] <bgilb> but im a one man army
[01:46] <DrScratMD> what's your game design?
[01:46] <Rangar> seriously, we've all had LOTS of issues with modellers and artists running o
[01:46] <Rangar> thats the prob we all have
[01:46] <bgilb> its simple in comcept but complicated in implementation
[01:47] <bgilb> i tried to combine 3 concepts
[01:47] <bgilb> physics, social networking and a persistent world
[01:47] <Borealis> world of facebook?
[01:47] <Rangar> careful... there are patents covering things like onlne social worlds
[01:47] <bgilb> well the games not so much about like having 200 friends
[01:48] <bgilb> actually the games only social aspect is talking to people
[01:48] <bgilb> i don't think that is patented
[01:48] <Rangar> it is :(
[01:48] <bgilb> but basically the idea is that you use physics to meet people in a persistent
[01:48] <bgilb> so i came up with an idea where your avatar can't really move much on his own
[01:48] <bgilb> but he can build structures like
[01:48] <bgilb> catapults and stuff
[01:48] <raleigh> Rangar, what is patented?
[01:48] <Rangar> look up the patents with a patent search, then try and create a work-around
[01:48] <bgilb> to be able to longer distances
[01:49] <Rangar> raleigh: social gathering in a 3d world
[01:50] <raleigh> so who is blizzard paying royalties to?
[01:50] <bgilb> :P
[01:51] <Rangar> bgilb: thats been done, Sony have a game doing that now, about to be release
[01:51] <bgilb> lol what is the game called
[01:51] <Rangar> unf, 1 moe, that'll take a moment to refind
[01:51] <Rangar> because i cannot remember.. it's an odd game
[01:52] <Rangar> damn, gotta think of terms to google.. somone here /topiced it a while back
[01:52] <bgilb> http://gigagamez.com/2007/03/07/sony-adds-social-software-second-life-ish-wor
[01:52] <bgilb> this ?
[01:54] <Rangar> nope, that wasnt it
[01:55] <Rangar> hmm, actually.. i think the link was a youtube demo
[01:57] <DrScratMD> Paradise City burnout is awesome
[01:57] <DrScratMD> cant wait till the game is released
[01:57] <DrScratMD> huhu
[02:09] <violator> oh noes.. the fat cat has died
[02:10] <violator> what was his domain again?
[02:10] <violator> tubcat?
[02:10] <violator> yes.. tubcat dead
[06:25] <honkykong> lol paradise
[06:25] <honkykong> so not looking forward to that one
[06:26] <GoulJusan> meow :D
[06:26] <honkykong> 'showtime mode' = big pile of geigh
[06:26] <honkykong> hi there
[06:26] <PitDroid> privet, honkykong
[06:26] <honkykong> hows going GoulJusan
[06:28] <GoulJusan> heya
[06:28] <GoulJusan> doing well other than the face is crcking up from the cold
[06:28] <GoulJusan> u?:
[06:32] <honkykong> doing nice, it finally warmed up here
[06:32] <honkykong> just testing out my client/servar app
[06:32] <honkykong> it kept running all night, thats a good sign
[06:32] <honkykong> so far its been crashing like, every ten minutes
[06:36] <GoulJusan> o_O\
[06:36] <GoulJusan> ouch
[06:37] <GoulJusan> wots wrong with it??
[06:40] <honkykong> i dunno
[06:40] <honkykong> wanna see?
[06:40] <honkykong> its flash
[06:40] <honkykong> the client part anyways
[06:40] <honkykong> itd actually be kinda helpful for me
[06:40] <honkykong> doesnt seem to be crashing much for me, more when other people use it
[06:42] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/test1.swf
[06:52] <honkykong> lol that was weird gencha
[06:52] <honkykong> i saw you connect via the server console, but my chat window didnt show y
[06:53] <honkykong> which was very well thought out i must say
[06:54] <gencha> it was only a test ;)
[06:56] <honkykong> a test of the emergency PENIS! system
[06:59] <honkykong> you didnt use it long enough to see my apps big 'Feature' tho
[06:59] <honkykong> which would be.... a scrollbar
[06:59] <gencha> omg
[06:59] <gencha> but i did see the scrollbar
[06:59] <honkykong> was it everything you hoped it would be?
[06:59] <honkykong> if you join more than one chan it does this tab control thing up top too
[07:00] <honkykong> so... got that going too... woot
[07:00] <gencha> well i still say it looks bad
[07:00] <honkykong> i would not argue that
[07:00] <honkykong> clearly it doesnt look good
[07:00] <gencha> and it would profit from using a perfectly well written gui lib, so you can
[07:02] <honkykong> i dont think so, but thats just past experience with that kinda nonsense
[07:02] <honkykong> cause then when i have a problem with the gui component... who's problem
[07:03] <honkykong> not to mention that shit is always some bloaty crap
[07:03] <honkykong> would prolly bump my app up from 30k to 200k instantly
[07:03] <gencha> omg 200k!
[07:03] <honkykong> yeah, way too much
[07:03] <honkykong> i've fit full featured games into a fourth of that
[07:04] <honkykong> besides the chat app is probably never going ot be used for anythign, so
[07:04] <honkykong> maybe at that time i'll look at gui libs, but atm its all about how it sl
[07:05] <honkykong> besides i can write all that crap myself, and probably better, so why wou
[07:05] <gencha> lol
[07:15] <honkykong> buncha slakrs
[07:22] <LaRssA> the cake is a lie!
[07:23] * _kw is the one that took the cake
[07:23] <honkykong> i believe in the cake
[07:23] <einride> i made the cake.
[07:23] <honkykong> what kinda cake
[07:23] <einride> i could tell you but it'd be a lie.
[07:24] <honkykong> dammit
[07:24] <honkykong> hey einride
[07:24] <einride> afternoon
[07:24] <_kw> haha einride
[07:24] <honkykong> how do i keep my nonblocking socket from tieing up its listening port aft
[07:25] <honkykong> its like the script dies, and then anyone tries to reconnect it ties up t
[07:25] <einride> you don't, unless you wanna fiddle with kernel settings
[07:25] <honkykong> i tried setting sockop SO_REUSEADDR
[07:25] <honkykong> and it didnt work :(
[07:25] <einride> won't do any good
[07:25] <honkykong> it didnt
[07:25] <honkykong> dammit!
[07:25] <einride> i solve this by always listening on multiple ports, then vary what I connec
[07:25] <honkykong> can i listen on the socket in blocking mode for a moment before i go into
[07:26] <honkykong> hmm
[07:26] <einride> problem is when you have connections spawned from a listening port that are
[07:26] <honkykong> aye
[07:26] <einride> kernel keeps them half-closed for a few mins
[07:26] <honkykong> maybe i just need to figure out how to write a decent noncrashing script
[07:26] <einride> you *could* change that, but it's a bad idea
[07:26] <honkykong> k
[07:26] <einride> while testing, listen on a 2-3 ports
[07:26] <honkykong> wanna see my craptacular flash chat?
[07:27] <einride> easy solution :P
[07:27] <honkykong> k
[07:27] <einride> flash irc? :P
[07:27] <honkykong> what about a blocking listener on the public port, which accepts a connec
[07:27] <honkykong> yup
[07:27] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/test1.swf
[07:27] <honkykong> its still geighsauce
[07:27] <honkykong> but i'm working on it
[07:28] <honkykong> fugly geighsauce
[07:28] <einride> honkykong: could work... as long as all connections spawned from one listen
[07:28] <honkykong> maybe thats what i need to do then
[07:28] <honkykong> cause i dont know if i can expect the client to know what port to connect
[07:28] <honkykong> ideally my server will stop crashing so damn much soon
[07:28] <honkykong> but thats a pretty big if
[07:28] <einride> my firewall freaks out :P
[07:29] <_kw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew1Uu-WIMx0
[07:29] <honkykong> it does? suck
[07:29] <honkykong> connecting to my crapchat?
[07:29] <einride> honkykong: as said, listen on a 2-3 and try them all from the client :P
[07:29] <einride> my firewall is aggressive
[07:29] <honkykong> ah k
[07:29] <einride> we have way to many morons here at office
[07:29] <einride> gfx people and so on
[07:29] <honkykong> hmm just curious, what would make it past your firewall? low port?
[07:29] <einride> ;)
[07:29] <honkykong> ahh
[07:29] <honkykong> fking slakrs
[07:29] <honkykong> lol dammit Ghaleon
[07:29] <honkykong> get me started on shit
[07:29] <einride> nah they're good
[07:30] <einride> they just don't understand computers
[07:30] <honkykong> give em a joint and a wacom and keep em the hell away from the internets
[07:30] <einride> give them photoshop or 3dsmax/cat and they're wizards :P
[07:30] <einride> yeah more or less hehe
[07:30] <honkykong> yeah i can relate
[07:30] <honkykong> i'm kinda dual discipline
[07:31] <honkykong> proggie/artnerd
[07:31] <einride> i can't draw worth shit. my 10 year old draws better ;)
[07:31] <honkykong> i'm also a level 2 paladin
[07:31] <einride> haha
[07:31] * honkykong heads off to the tower of majora for a quest with a party of knightelves
[07:32] <honkykong> gdamn i'm such a nerd
[07:32] <honkykong> it boggles the mind sometimes
[07:32] <einride> heh i don't even play games
[07:32] <honkykong> yeah me either much
[07:32] <einride> gimme a console and i'm happy ;)
[07:32] <honkykong> got a 360 the other day, thats as much games as i've played
[07:32] <honkykong> and even then, i played cod4 until i got bored with it and now it sits th
[07:33] <einride> hmm we have a few game consoles at home... my gf's
[07:33] <einride> can't say i've tried any of them
[07:33] <honkykong> i have a strict 'no mmorpg' personal policy
[07:33] <einride> wii, ps2, gamecube? /me shrugs
[07:33] <honkykong> if i play mmorpgs i will never play anything else
[07:33] <einride> haha
[07:33] <honkykong> or do anything else
[07:33] <honkykong> or ever go anywhere else
[07:33] <honkykong> so no means no
[07:33] <einride> c++ op channel's turned into eve strategy/support5 chan lately
[07:33] <honkykong> lol
[07:33] <einride> annoying :P
[07:34] <honkykong> well i'm gonna sort this crap out
[07:34] <honkykong> hey thanks for the insight
[07:34] <honkykong> re sockets
[07:34] <einride> have fun
[07:34] <honkykong> no c++ oper chats
[07:34] <honkykong> no/not
[07:34] <honkykong> lol
[07:34] <honkykong> yup
[07:46] <GoulJusan> okee time to log off n eat eat eat muahahahaha
[08:13] <honkykong> woot suckchat now properly posts join/part messages
[09:05] <GJVisser> what was halo3 programmed with?
[09:10] <FMRefs> wtf
[09:11] <FMRefs> oh i don't have timestamps on, maybe that was from earlier
[09:23] <Ziggy-> halo3 is most likely dx9/c++ :)
[09:25] <_Butcher_> it's 360, so not DX9 :p
[09:26] <Ziggy-> 360 uses dx9 :)
[09:26] <Ziggy-> BURN
[09:26] <Ziggy-> hehe
[09:26] <honkykong> some guy was saying xp can run dx10
[09:26] <honkykong> he's full of shit right?
[09:26] <Ziggy-> afaik xp cannot run dx10
[09:26] <honkykong> k thats what i said
[09:26] <honkykong> almost exactly what i said actully
[09:26] <Ziggy-> did you say BURN?
[09:27] <Ziggy-> that is the proper response after a reply
[09:27] <honkykong> no but i thought FAIL very loudly
[09:27] <Ziggy-> hehe
[09:27] <honkykong> lol
[09:27] <honkykong> worst corp decision i think i've ever heard of
[09:27] <honkykong> no dx10 on xp
[09:27] <honkykong> wtf are they thinking
[09:27] <honkykong> cant *force* people to use vista
[09:27] <Ziggy-> i installed vista and upgraded to xp shortly after
[09:27] <honkykong> you can sure the hell chase people off tho
[09:27] <honkykong> lol ftw
[09:27] <_Butcher_> Ziggy-: not really
[09:28] <Ziggy-> butch: the 360 is slightly different, sure :)
[09:28] <Ziggy-> very slightly
[09:28] <_Butcher_> that's like saying xbox was DX, it kinda was but not really :p
[09:28] <honkykong> slidegrade to vista now!
[09:28] <_Butcher_> based on DX would be more accurate
[09:28] <Ziggy-> naw, its sooo slightly different it is really just dx9 ;)
[09:28] <Ziggy-> hehe
[09:28] <Ziggy-> it uses shader model 3.0'ish
[09:29] <Ziggy-> :P
[09:29] <honkykong> taco bell is so fucking nasty
[09:29] <honkykong> :(
[09:29] <Ziggy-> as microsoft would say
[09:29] <_Butcher_> ziggy: so? :p
[09:29] <Ziggy-> :D
[09:29] <_Butcher_> hmm, someone op Birgitte
[09:30] <Ziggy-> yay
[09:30] <_Butcher_> honkykong: DX10 won't work on XP
[09:30] <_Butcher_> they redesigned the driver interface for it
[09:31] <honkykong> yeah thats what i've been figuring as common knowledge
[09:31] <Ziggy-> the only diff i've seen between the 360 and winderz is the instancing
[09:31] <Ziggy-> and the byte ordering
[09:31] <honkykong> this dork at gamestop thought he was gonna tell me a thing or two about c
[09:31] <honkykong> cause i look like a construction worker
[09:31] <_Butcher_> lol
[09:31] <Ziggy-> hehe
[09:32] <honkykong> i'm getting pretty good at the smile and nod thing tho
[09:32] <Ziggy-> just repeat "what you said boy?"
[09:32] <honkykong> 'fucking homofied nerds and ur goddamn keyboards... get that faggy shit o
[09:33] <honkykong> lol
[09:33] * honkykong mocks like he's typing something at a keyboard all hunched over biting his lowe
[09:33] * honkykong types something at a keyboard all hunched over while biting his lower lip
[09:34] <honkykong> lol
[09:34] <_Butcher_> why go to gamestop? they're all retards who work there :p
[09:34] <honkykong> yeah but... they gots games
[09:34] <honkykong> which i was needin
[09:34] <honkykong> for the 360
[09:34] <Ziggy-> you can get xb1 games for like 7 bucks now
[09:34] <savag1> Can't beat Gamestop's inventory
[09:34] * savag1 is now known as rande1
[09:35] * rande1 is now known as randelPRO
[09:35] <honkykong> yah ziggy
[09:35] <honkykong> i spent like, 40 bucks the other day, walked out with 6 games
[09:35] <Ziggy-> nice :)
[09:35] <honkykong> yah, all from the top 25 xbox games ever too
[09:35] <Ziggy-> woot!
[09:35] <honkykong> quality stuff
[09:35] <honkykong> ya
[09:35] <randelPRO> I wish those games would run on the 360.
[09:35] <honkykong> i should play one but cba
[09:35] <honkykong> they do
[09:35] <honkykong> wtf
[09:36] <honkykong> lol wtf u think i'm using
[09:36] <honkykong> the only one on the list i saw that wouldnt run was that riddick shit
[09:36] <honkykong> which is fine, vin deisel is a momo anyways and will not be plagueing my
[09:37] <randelPRO> I picked up a Midway Arcade Hits Xbox for fun. Screen on the 360 "This t
[09:37] <honkykong> yeah i said 'top 25'
[09:37] <_Butcher_> get an old xbox :p
[09:37] <honkykong> not 'rehashed shit no one wants to play anyways'
[09:38] <randelPRO> I have an Xbox. I just don't want to set it up. Barely have room for th
[09:38] <honkykong> what are you trying to play from midway classics anwyays
[09:38] <randelPRO> Those old Sprint based racing games.
[09:38] <honkykong> better not be fucking pacman or something
[09:38] <Ziggy-> randel: what a bad perdiciment :)
[09:39] <honkykong> haha i was just thinking about making amultiplayer flash version of that
[09:39] * randelPRO pats Ziggy- on the head.
[09:39] <honkykong> sprint seemed like a good candidate for flash gameage
[09:40] <randelPRO> honkykong, yeah, I already started myself. Flash CS3 is slowing me down
[09:43] <honkykong> ya gl
[09:43] <honkykong> its worth it
[09:43] <honkykong> i made the migration recently
[09:43] <honkykong> you making flash super sprint or something?
[09:43] <honkykong> if so hell i'll make something else
[09:43] <honkykong> havent started any of em yet
[09:44] <honkykong> figured i'd test out my multiplayer server with something like that... mi
[09:44] <randelPRO> honkykong, hey, don't worry about me. There's always multiples of the sa
[09:44] <honkykong> oh ok
[09:45] <honkykong> well mine will be internet multiplayer from day one
[09:45] <honkykong> its the point of making it at all, testing out the server
[09:45] <honkykong> prolly just make pong and connect 4 at first though
[09:45] <honkykong> super simple applications of either major game time
[09:45] <honkykong> time/type
[09:45] <randelPRO> Yeah, I was going to concentrate on cleaning up the drifting for the drif
[09:45] <honkykong> but sprint was high up on the list of considered things to rip off
[09:46] <honkykong> i love flash game dev
[09:46] <honkykong> takes 0 originality
[09:46] <honkykong> at all
[09:46] <honkykong> lol jk
[09:47] <randelPRO> honkykong, if I could make a suggest. The perfect candidate for a flash
[09:50] <honkykong> huh
[09:50] <honkykong> never heard of that one
[09:50] <honkykong> funny name tho, all things considered
[09:50] <randelPRO> Here's a very bad artist rep of the screen about ahlf down http://www.ar
[09:51] <randelPRO> Two players work coop to defend those triangles in the center by shooting
[09:51] <randelPRO> Here's a write up someone did of the AI: http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids
[09:52] <honkykong> huh, neat
[09:53] <randelPRO> It was a truely sweet game in its day. The only real "defend" game I can
[09:54] <randelPRO> The bad guys came in and had to turn around to hook up their rear-ends to
[09:55] <randelPRO> When you shoot a bad guy towing away a triangle, the triangle stays where
[09:57] <honkykong> interesting
[09:57] <honkykong> but your defending character were unable to tow the targets back to safet
[09:57] <randelPRO> honkykong, true.
[09:57] <honkykong> ic
[09:57] <randelPRO> honkykong, they couldn't.
[09:57] <honkykong> the goals should be porn
[09:58] <honkykong> GetThePorn 2.0
[09:58] <randelPRO> honkykong, might be a good warm up project, as I suspect Sprint is going
[09:58] <honkykong> not for me
[09:58] <honkykong> i supercoo
[09:59] <randelPRO> honkykong, heh. Well I've been staring at some drifting formulas (side-g
[09:59] <Ghaleon> no
[09:59] <randelPRO> oh, for a moment there I thought Ghaleon was going to say "no". Oh wait,
[10:00] <honkykong> lol
[10:00] <honkykong> Ghaleon u slakr
[10:00] <honkykong> cant rip bettar than that wtf
[10:01] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/test1.swf
[10:01] <honkykong> getting much less lame
[10:01] <honkykong> still ugly but more diff to break
[10:02] <Ghaleon> :O
[10:02] <randelPRO> part doesn't work
[10:02] <randelPRO> disconect doesn't work
[10:02] <randelPRO> re-connect doesn't work
[10:03] <randelPRO> send doesn't work
[10:03] <Ghaleon> honkykong: I broked it
[10:03] <Ghaleon> do not type in: ¬_¬
[10:03] <honkykong> randelpro use diff username
[10:03] <honkykong> 'me' in use
[10:03] <honkykong> lol Ghaleon
[10:04] <honkykong> yeah dont type any *'s either
[10:04] <honkykong> or |'s
[10:04] <honkykong> lol
[10:04] <Ghaleon> that 1 was a *1
[10:04] <honkykong> ah k
[10:04] <randelPRO> "(10:01:33 AM) honkykong: still ugly but more diff to break"
[10:05] <honkykong> didnt say unbreakable
[10:05] <honkykong> said more diff
[10:05] <honkykong> lol
[10:05] <honkykong> was *super* breakable before
[10:05] <randelPRO> gotcha
[10:05] <Ghaleon> ( º ) ( º ) -> broken
[10:06] <honkykong> yeah but you cant join channels youre already in
[10:06] <honkykong> so
[10:06] <honkykong> got that going on
[10:06] <honkykong> alse if you're connected, you can't connect again
[10:06] <honkykong> did you notice the scrollbar?
[10:06] <honkykong> it scrolls
[10:06] <honkykong> lol
[10:09] <Ghaleon> the scrolls are a lie
[10:09] <wkr4k4r> nostrodomus
[10:09] <wkr4k4r> no way
[10:10] <wkr4k4r> thats shits real
[10:10] <honkykong> there is no scroll
[10:48] * honkykong ACTIONS
[10:49] <honkykong> hmm
[10:50] <Epoch`_> yum, actions
[10:50] <honkykong> yes they taste great
[10:59] <Ghaleon> tastez gr8, lezz fillingz
[11:07] * Butcher_ is now known as _Butcher_
[11:15] <Decept404> man, visiting my birthtown has been pretty melancholy so far. turns out a
[11:15] <Decept404> wtf is it with small towns and drug addiction
[11:15] <Decept404> boredom?
[11:16] <ht7z> prolly
[11:16] <flashed> yup
[11:16] <Decept404> this kid that got me into listening to the prodigy in the late 90s, turns
[11:16] <Decept404> died from OD in solitary confinement
[11:17] <Decept404> that's sobering stuff. that's a seriously crap death
[11:17] <ht7z> just sad
[11:18] <Decept404> seriously. and he's one of 5 childhood friends i had who croaked from var
[11:18] <Decept404> stupid drugs.
[11:19] <honkykong> that sucks man :(
[11:19] <honkykong> was it the drugs
[11:19] <honkykong> or the 'drug war'
[11:20] <Decept404> well it all has the same stem i guess
[11:20] <Decept404> i have no issue with weed or whatever
[11:20] <honkykong> i think it should all be legal
[11:20] <honkykong> its natural selection
[11:20] <Decept404> but heroin, e and acid have been it apparently
[11:20] <honkykong> people are gonna do the shit one way or the other anyways
[11:20] <honkykong> like oxycontine
[11:21] <honkykong> we can institutionalize the 'war on dope' all we want but big money will
[11:21] <Ghaleon> eye liek kittahs
[11:21] <honkykong> they're gud
[11:22] * Ghaleon snortz kittah
[11:30] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[11:33] <Thoys> Hello :D
[11:35] <honkykong> hi
[11:38] <Decept404> if any of you are into melancholy semi-pretentious minimalist electronica
[11:38] <Decept404> never mind the video, but i love that song
[11:42] <aav_hlm> Decept404, i take it you've seen/heard this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=QfU
[11:42] <honkykong> holy wtf
[11:42] <honkykong> hey ok i dunno if this is just my laptop
[11:43] <honkykong> but try holding down ctrl, and alt, and tapping the left or right key
[11:43] <[Relic]> :)
[11:43] <honkykong> in xp
[11:43] <honkykong> it just turned myfucking display 90 degrees
[11:43] <honkykong> quite unexpectedly, in flash
[11:43] <aav_hlm> doesn't work on my laptop ;P
[11:43] <aav_hlm> also XP, so i'm not smug about linux or anything
[11:44] <honkykong> huh
[11:44] <honkykong> it was startling
[11:44] <flashed> thats cuse you have some crapware installed
[11:46] <Ghaleon> honkykong
[11:46] <Ghaleon> datz yer video drivers
[11:46] <Ghaleon> it has hotkeys for that stuff
[11:47] <honkykong> lol guess so
[11:47] <honkykong> wtf who's gonna use their laptop sideways
[11:48] <Ghaleon> I've seen some people do that with LCD's
[11:48] <Ghaleon> you can tilt them usually
[11:48] <Ghaleon> even 90º
[11:49] <Ghaleon> for wide screens, it gives you one long page of code if you codin
[11:49] <Ghaleon> kinda usefull
[11:49] <Ghaleon> for artsy types you can get a full page layout
[11:49] <honkykong> yeah but how would you use a laptop like that
[11:49] <Ghaleon> you plug the laptop's vga output into a LCD
[11:49] <honkykong> i dunno i guess its concievable
[11:49] <honkykong> lol
[11:49] <Ghaleon> some laptops also have rotating displays
[11:49] <honkykong> i was just trying to nudge my glass buttons around tho
[11:49] <Ghaleon> mostly the pentops
[11:49] <honkykong> yeah not this pos
[11:50] <honkykong> dell crap
[11:50] <flashed> Ghaleon: tablets?
[11:51] <Ghaleon> yesch
[11:57] <aav_hlm> and iPhonez
[11:57] <aav_hlm> and iPod Gropez
[12:06] <Ghaleon> iPoons
[12:26] <honkykong> thats a next level product there
[12:26] <honkykong> poon w/ lil lcd touch screen
[12:26] <honkykong> you can watch porn in
[12:40] <Ghaleon> ZiggyDawg--
[13:19] <honkykong> goddamn actionscript
[13:19] <honkykong> is a fucking nonregexp replace() really that goddamn much to ask for
[13:22] <Ghaleon> huhuz
[13:28] <honkykong> newstring = gay.split("anus").join("scrotum); // flash sucks anus well -&
[13:55] <honkykong> gdamn this pisses me off
[13:55] <honkykong> so ok i try to replace *********** with \*\*\*\*etc right
[13:55] <honkykong> which takes WAY longer than it shoudl be its going rihgt... goes up to th
[13:56] <honkykong> then the client gets it, and splits the message on **'s... but it fucking
[13:56] <honkykong> fucking gay ass flash bullshit
[14:00] * honkykong stabs flash in the eye over and over again
[14:03] <flashed> why you using flash in the first place?
[14:04] <honkykong> i dunno, fucking glutton for punishment
[14:04] <honkykong> maybe i'm gay
[14:04] <honkykong> i dont feel gay
[14:04] * _kw feels honkykong
[14:05] <honkykong> gdamn i fkin hate flash
[14:06] <honkykong> lamest fucking piss poor excuse for a goddamn prog language since fucking
[14:06] <honkykong> oh yah! its the goddamn successor of lingo, i forgot
[14:06] <honkykong> that explains everything
[14:22] <factor> hey
[14:22] <PitDroid> hi, factor
[14:23] <honkykong> hai
[14:23] <factor> sup?
[14:23] <honkykong> armwrestling flash
[14:23] <honkykong> its winning :(
[14:23] <factor> lol
[14:23] <factor> flash ;)
[14:25] <honkykong> i hate it
[14:25] <honkykong> so much
[14:25] <factor> hehe
[14:25] <factor> think I"m gonna head off home
[14:25] <honkykong> gl
[14:25] <factor> since I can't fix the problem at work
[14:25] <honkykong> sobriety?
[14:25] <factor> might come back if I think of something
[14:25] <honkykong> lack of sex?
[14:25] <factor> haha, bug on a phone
[14:25] <honkykong> k
[14:25] <factor> pissing me off
[14:25] <factor> :(
[14:26] <honkykong> sucks
[14:26] <factor> ttyl
[14:26] <honkykong> l8
[14:33] <Nightshde> honkykong: trying to recall what we talked about yesterday... you use eve
[14:33] <honkykong> we talked about something?
[14:33] <Nightshde> fo sheezy
[14:34] <Nightshde> input management and delgation
[14:34] <honkykong> oh right
[14:34] <honkykong> ya
[14:34] <Nightshde> do you let both the gui manager and character controller handle the same
[14:34] <honkykong> i use an array or object of functions
[14:34] <honkykong> whats a character controller
[14:34] <honkykong> like keypress's and shit?
[14:35] <Nightshde> something that controls the player... it could deal with key mappings, ha
[14:36] <Nightshde> i keep getting frusterated... ever forum posting i've read about input ma
[14:37] <Nightshde> if the menu is up you don't want your character to move around....
[14:37] <honkykong> huh
[14:37] <_Butcher_> chain listeners, first listener gets to say if the event is passed on, pu
[14:37] <honkykong> sounds reasonable
[14:37] <Nightshde> so the listeners would need a priority
[14:38] <Nightshde> or 'added' in the correct order
[14:39] <Nightshde> that's kinda what i was thinking...
[14:40] <_Butcher_> I dunno, I've never used the system :p
[14:40] <_Butcher_> just first thing that came to mind
[14:40] <Nightshde> btw did i mention C# sucks for encapsulation
[14:41] <_Butcher_> we just have a global input state object, and everything reads current st
[14:41] <Nightshde> that's kinda how i would like to do it, but the other to which reads it i
[14:41] <Nightshde> gui should always handle input first
[14:41] <_Butcher_> when the gui is active the game doesn't update so doesn't read input :p
[14:42] <Nightshde> depends on the game.... something like WoW for example has GUI for spells
[14:42] <Nightshde> walk and organize your inventory at the same time
[14:42] <_Butcher_> yes but that's a mouse click gui only
[14:43] <_Butcher_> so it doesn't need to capture input
[14:43] <Nightshde> well, the mouse is input....
[14:43] <_Butcher_> anything like that you handle along with normal game input
[14:43] <_Butcher_> since the game is running
[14:44] <_Butcher_> wow in game guis of that nature don't use any input which would conflict
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[14:49] <honkykong> i believe event bubbling is how this problem is typically handled
[14:49] <honkykong> maybe you want to look into how flash handles this problem
[14:49] <honkykong> though it will likely make you want to stab puppies
[14:50] <[Relic]> it gets nekkid and struts its stuff? :)
[14:50] <Nightshde> right, the only thing is that the items are added in correct order for it
[14:50] <Nightshde> hehe
[14:50] <honkykong> relic if only
[14:51] <chandler> is there
[14:53] <honkykong> newp
[14:53] <honkykong> not today
[15:27] <honkykong> fucking. finally.
[15:27] <honkykong> users can chat with *'s! and |'s!
[15:27] <directhex> wow, bunout paradise demo is tite
[15:27] <honkykong> they can even have chan names with those characters, or usernames with th
[15:28] <directhex> err burnout
[15:28] <honkykong> fuck that paradise looks like *SHIT*
[15:28] <honkykong> 'showtime' mode
[15:28] <directhex> first burnout i really want to own
[15:28] <honkykong> fuck that wheres crash mode
[15:28] <honkykong> no crash mode = its not burnout
[15:28] <directhex> it said is has some sort of crash mode
[15:28] <honkykong> nope
[15:28] <directhex> but i like more realistic racing anyways
[15:29] <honkykong> it has 'showtime' mode
[15:29] <honkykong> and its extra super gay
[15:29] <honkykong> sec i'll find the link
[15:29] <directhex> ok, well i never been a burnoiut fan so your prolly right
[15:29] <directhex> but he did mention something on the radio
[15:29] <directhex> it's damn pretty too
[15:30] <honkykong> http://youtube.com/watch?v=g3ybat1DTJ4
[15:30] <honkykong> crash mode was the coolest part of it
[15:30] <honkykong> and now its gone
[15:30] <honkykong> so fuck it i'll have nothingt o do with paradise except to vehemently hat
[15:30] <honkykong> HATEHATEHATEHATE
[15:31] <directhex> you'll but it and you'll LIKE IT!
[15:31] <directhex> err buy
[15:31] <honkykong> i'll buy nothing
[15:31] <honkykong> i'll steal it, set it on fire, and chuckit at the poor sap behind the cou
[15:31] <honkykong> because its his fucking fault
[15:31] <honkykong> then i'll take a dump right on their fax machine, and leave.
[15:32] <honkykong> look at that showtime shit tho
[15:32] <honkykong> like a fucking pile of digital puke
[15:38] * geekguy agrees with honky
[15:39] <honkykong> gencha
[15:39] <honkykong> i prettied up my shits buttons
[15:39] <honkykong> just for you
[15:39] <honkykong> it made me feel icky, in the groin area, to do it, but i did it anyways
[16:28] <Ghaleon> honkykong: I bet you say that to all the girls
[16:52] <honkykong> actually, i just said it to this other one in a chat window lol
[16:52] <honkykong> she's a designer so appreciates pretty buttons and all that fruity shit
[16:53] <Ghaleon> I meant "[15:39] <+honkykong> it made me feel icky, in the groin area
[16:53] <honkykong> yeah i'll be saying that later too
[16:53] <honkykong> all things in good time
[16:55] <Nightshde> man XNA has everything already inplemented for you... I was writing a Pro
[16:55] <Nightshde> i feel robed...
[16:57] <honkykong> robed lol
[17:01] <honkykong> i feel disrobed
[17:04] <Nightshde> well, actually i don't feel robed anymore. My process manager still stand
[17:05] <Nightshde> oh nope, i lied
[17:05] <Nightshde> UpdateOrder... doh
[17:15] <Ghaleon> in order execution is for newbs
[17:40] * directhex kicks Ghaleon's cage.
[17:45] * Ghaleon knocks directhex's legos down
[17:47] * honkykong does stuff
[17:47] <honkykong> at a place
[17:47] <honkykong> with a thing
[17:47] <Ghaleon> in tha newd
[17:48] <honkykong> on a stick!
[17:54] <Ghaleon> frob-'d frum da baq
[17:54] <frob-> Ohhh, do it again!
[17:54] <Ghaleon> frob-'d frum da ear
[17:55] * frob- cleans off his ear
[17:55] <frob-> Ah, thanks.
[18:00] * honkykong stretchifies his ui
[18:01] <Ghaleon> just liek havin a babay
[18:01] <honkykong> its crowning
[18:01] * honkykong gets ready to catch the app
[18:02] <Ghaleon> I meantz stretch marx
[18:02] <honkykong> marxist
[18:02] <honkykong> gdamn commies
[18:03] <Ghaleon> :O
[18:08] <honkykong> lol i thought i said 'PLZ NO HAX'
[18:09] <honkykong> who the hell is ocnar.com
[18:09] <Ghaleon> I'm unfamiliarz wif dat one
[18:09] <honkykong> just tried to hax my servar
[18:10] <Ghaleon> their webpage iz way downz
[18:10] <Ghaleon> might be a hax'd servar
[18:10] <honkykong> way way down
[18:10] <honkykong> well i notice my putt yconnection keeps craping out
[18:11] <honkykong> was only happening a lil, now happens every hour or so if i have my serve
[18:11] <honkykong> nothing seems wrong with the server, i log back in and its ok
[18:11] <Ghaleon> just receiving too much traffik?
[18:12] <honkykong> nah no wai
[18:14] <honkykong> ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'POST http://www.ocna
[18:15] <Ghaleon> weirdz
[18:16] <honkykong> guess i need to update my server plan
[18:16] <honkykong> deny all connections no prefixed with super sekrit phrase
[18:16] <honkykong> like 'NOHAXHAXHAXPLZKTNX'
[18:16] <honkykong> hmm
[18:23] <Ghaleon> yesch
[18:24] <Ghaleon> DONAWTZHAXDABAQORUGUNNADROPSDASOAP
[18:25] <honkykong> k fixed i think
[18:25] <honkykong> fkrs
[18:27] <Ghaleon> u needs reverzehax servar protexion
[18:29] <honkykong> ya
[18:32] <Ultyma> sex
[18:34] <honkykong> its gud
[18:36] <Ghaleon> si siiiiiiiiii
[18:36] <Ultyma> i agree
[18:37] <kaotrix> holy shit
[18:37] <kaotrix> horrible live performance
[18:37] <kaotrix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wWOIdjtqe0&feature=bz303
[18:38] <honkykong> k ui
[18:38] <honkykong> ur gonna stretch proper now
[18:38] <honkykong> or i'm gonna get upset
[18:39] <honkykong> excellent choice
[18:42] <kaotrix> guys
[18:42] <kaotrix> 2012 is the apocalypse
[18:42] <kaotrix> you have 4 more years to try and lose your virginity.
[18:43] <geekguy> Yeah
[18:43] <geekguy> I heard that too
[18:43] <Ghaleon> I went downtown and drove around... threw it off a bridge
[18:44] <kaotrix> Ghaleon will code 4 more games until the world comes to an end
[18:44] <[Relic]> so next thursday?
[18:45] <kaotrix> [Relic] : ??
[18:45] * kaotrix is now known as [kaos]
[18:45] <[Relic]> world comes to an end next thursday then? : )
[18:45] <[kaos]> Why do you say that?
[18:46] <[kaos]> It's January 17 next Thursday
[18:46] <[kaos]> If there's a joke in there then I don't get it.
[18:47] <[Relic]> kaotrix> Ghaleon will code 4 more games until the world comes to an end
[18:48] <[kaos]> So you're saying Ghaleon will get four games coded within a week?
[18:48] <honkykong> anyone wanna see the fruit of my loins?
[18:48] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/test1.swf
[18:49] <[kaos]> stfu
[18:49] <honkykong> i gave birf to a stretchy ui
[18:49] <[kaos]> don't talk about my mother like that
[18:49] <honkykong> i will
[18:49] <honkykong> i do
[18:49] <honkykong> every day
[18:49] <sort> honkykong: it doesnt work
[18:49] <honkykong> ?
[18:49] <[kaos]> sort!!
[18:49] <[kaos]> My main man
[18:49] <[kaos]> I love you
[18:49] <sort> hi
[18:50] <[kaos]> hi baby ^^
[18:50] <honkykong> does it give you any sort of error message?
[18:50] <honkykong> lol it works gtfo :P
[18:50] <sort> i reloaded and it worked
[18:50] <sort> maybe just a random crash???
[18:50] <honkykong> dunno, server doesnt show you as having tried to connect
[18:50] <honkykong> there we go
[18:51] <[kaos]> /wrists
[19:10] <sort> its nyquil time
[19:10] <Ghaleon> datz wut she said
[19:10] <sort> crap
[19:11] <sort> i forgot the comeback to that
[19:11] <sort> one sec
[19:28] <Ghaleon> Rangarzh
[19:33] <Ultyma> h4x
[20:26] <DrScratMD> http://www.scotese.com/images/globaltemp.jpg Climate history of the eart
[21:08] <sort> yo
[21:14] <sort> honkykong there?
[21:15] <honkykong> ya was reposting
[21:15] <honkykong> tired of watching you crash it :P
[21:15] <honkykong> try again
[21:16] <sort> hehe
[21:18] <Nightshde> hmmm, something like Alt-Enter... handling that is kinda problmatic... it
[21:18] <Nightshde> i guess the way to check it would be to check for Alt-Enter held states
[21:18] <honkykong> k
[21:19] <sort> heh
[21:19] <sort> im brutal
[21:20] <honkykong> lol
[21:21] <honkykong> its lil syntax errors with my fixes
[21:21] <honkykong> python doesnt compile so the errors dont show up until it hits the branch
[21:21] <honkykong> go ahead
[21:21] * FMJag throws a barrel at honkykong
[21:22] <Nightshde> hmm i guess other apps have the samr problem
[21:32] <Nightshde> hmm, would any of you think it would be good to have OnKeyHeld events...
[21:34] <Nightshde> trying to think of a case where you wouldnt need to do internal tracking
[21:39] <chai> can't think of any
[21:39] <chai> last time I did any programming, I treated the pressed ones as keyheld ones
[21:39] <chai> and the release as stopping
[21:40] <chai> the events that required the release where the exception (like actions that on
[21:42] <honkykong> sort sec i'm figureing out a regexp
[21:42] <honkykong> whats regexp for non wordchar? ^\w ?
[21:42] <sort> maybe
[21:42] <sort> yes
[21:42] <sort> or \
[21:42] <sort> \W
[21:43] <honkykong> yeah see \W is what i did at first
[21:43] <honkykong> m = re.match ('\W', self.uname); if m != None fuck.off();
[21:44] <sort> \W+
[22:05] * lez3 is now known as lez
[22:06] * Birgitte4 is now known as Birgitte
[22:10] * _Muad`Dib is now known as Muad`Dib
[22:33] <sort> it parted btw
[22:36] <honkykong> yup
[22:36] <honkykong> yay server survivalism
[22:36] <honkykong> its like network fightclub
[22:38] <honkykong> night all
[22:38] <_kw> omg honkykong
[22:38] <_kw> DONT MENTION NETWORK FIGHTCLUB
[22:38] <honkykong> lol
[22:39] <_kw> :|
[22:40] <honkykong> http://bokz.net/flash/test1.swf
[22:40] <honkykong> beat it up if you can
[22:40] <honkykong> i'm going to bed
[22:40] <honkykong> if you crash it msg me how you did it plz
[22:40] <honkykong> or be ready to do it again in the morning or something
Session Close: Mon Jan 07 00:00:00 2008