Log for #gamedev on 2007-12-30


Session Start: Sun Dec 30 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #gamedev
[04:37] * GoulJusan is now known as Goul-AFK
[07:03] * BigRedPmp is now known as BigRedPim
[07:03] * BigRedPim is now known as BigRedPmp
[10:31] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[10:31] <Ghaleon> zOMG u scurrd me
[10:32] <Ghaleon> I thought I was the only one left alive
[10:32] <[Relic]> see what happens when you think :)
[10:32] <ht7z> :o
[10:33] * Ghaleon thinks [Relic] into oblivion
[10:34] * [Relic] wonders if that means Ghaleon is sending [Relic] a new computer and obilvion to p
[10:34] <ht7z> hope not, that would be more like damnation
[10:34] <ht7z> huhu
[10:36] <Ghaleon> just a 360 relic, just a 360
[10:36] <[Relic]> free parts is free parts :)
[10:38] <[]> oblivion sucked anyways
[10:38] <[]> pretty garbage
[10:39] <Ghaleon> not compared with []
[10:40] <[]> so its ugly compared to me?
[10:40] <[]> i'm not that pretty...
[10:41] <[]> at least i dont have scaled levelling :P
[10:41] <[]> i cant believe this bullshit http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4022717&page=
[10:42] <[]> happened right around town here... fucking cops
[10:42] <[]> and they wonder why everyone hates them
[10:42] <[Relic]> jibjab's year in review ain't as good this year :(
[10:42] <Ghaleon> that's not as bad as the people arrested for DUI who had 0.00 in their bloo
[10:50] <Ghaleon> http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/robotic-artist-does-portraits-hoping-to-
[10:55] * Goul-AFK is now known as GoulJusan
[10:55] <GoulJusan> enchanted is a nice n cute movie!
[11:07] * tif is now known as realtime
[11:11] <realtime> []: HAHA jesus, thats the most bizarre kind of uh, police operation i ever
[11:12] <realtime> and the most unfair.. I would certainly fall to that :|
[11:16] <realtime> but anyway, the guy is a pervert, you know.
[11:17] <Ghaleon> I say the DUI arrests were more unfair
[11:17] <realtime> WHO THE HELL in sane mental condition would feel like showing his dick to
[11:18] <realtime> hm, dont know that
[11:18] <Ghaleon> imagine you are driving down the street
[11:18] <Ghaleon> then you are pulled over and arrested
[11:18] <Ghaleon> for DUI
[11:19] <realtime> ah, right. havent read you up there
[11:20] <realtime> but is, at least technically more unfair indeed
[11:20] <Ghaleon> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060921/NEWS/609210416
[11:28] <realtime> phew, the last guy ended up owing 2500 goddamn bucks just because the cop
[11:37] <Ghaleon> yeah, and they didn't even get to see a pair of jubblies
[11:38] <gadjo> hello
[11:56] <kaotrix> what's with this tax information crap on google's adsense : https://www.goo
[11:57] <kaotrix> i just want to place ads on my website, why do i have to submit my tax info
[12:19] <GoulJusan> brb rebooooooot
[12:36] <Cryovat> http://www.danwei.org/electronic_games/gambling_your_life_away_in_zt.php
[13:59] * ZombLovr is now known as LaRssA
[14:24] <factor> :P
[14:32] * GoulJusan is now known as GoulSleep
[14:38] <Ghaleon> Portal beatens in 2.5 hrz
[15:00] <Thoys> Ghaleon, slow ;d
[15:00] <Thoys> just shoot a portal through that little hole at the start to reach the finnis
[15:00] <Ghaleon> huhu
[15:01] <sort> whats this portal shit
[15:01] <sort> anyone still play quake
[15:01] <Ghaleon> I am more of a DOOM2 kinda guy
[15:02] <sort> yeah quake was a big leap
[15:02] <sort> 3 dimensions and all
[15:03] <Yenal> when i make a static function inline linker throws an error
[15:03] <Yenal> does it make sense?
[15:04] <Yenal> but it works inline if i define it in the class definition
[15:30] <Ghaleon> the body of the function must be present when inlining occurs
[15:30] <Ghaleon> it will happen with static or not.
[15:45] <Decept404> super loleon
[15:46] <Decept404> up for some coop vegas once i get my internets fixed?
[15:51] <Ghaleon> yesch
[15:51] <Ghaleon> and once the Lives is not hurting in pain
[16:02] * Disconnected
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[16:02] * Topic is 'Ziggyware Holiday Contest: http://tinyurl.com/259yfp :: MERRY BOXNG EVERYONE !!
[16:02] * Set by Ghaleon!~Phreak@c-24-16-14-224.hsd1.wa.comcast.net on Wed Dec 26 10:11:40
[16:09] -neobleed_- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners, no
[16:52] * microcosm is now known as moebius
[16:52] <moebius> hey quick poll
[16:53] * Ziggy- raises his hand
[16:53] <moebius> & give a honest answer no silliness
[16:53] <moebius> k?
[16:54] <Decept404> jjeje
[16:55] <moebius> "he was talking about chocolate bathing kittens."
[16:55] <moebius> what comes to mind when u read that sentence?
[16:56] <moebius> what are chocolate bathing kittens?
[16:59] <moebius> ?
[16:59] <moebius> its not a tough question lol
[17:02] <moebius> ??
[17:03] <moebius> never mind. screw you guys! lol
[17:04] <Ghaleon> :O
[17:04] <Ghaleon> moebly got baked again
[17:04] <sort> how absolutely exciting
[17:07] <Decept404> you can't poll *deduction*
[17:26] <nasalinfe> hi
[17:26] <nasalinfe> has anyone done programming with bounding box etc for directx
[17:26] <nasalinfe> collisions
[17:27] <Nutter> no one, ever
[17:27] <sort> i would say its plausible
[17:28] <Nutter> pft, you and your half-full glass
[17:28] <sort> its half full if you fill it and stop at 50%
[17:28] <sort> its half empty if you drink it down to 50%
[17:29] <Ghaleon> I prefer the bottemless glass myself
[17:29] <sort> i have a website you can visit to see a demonstration of this in action
[17:29] <sort> www.2girls1cup.com
[17:29] <Ghaleon> ohgno
[17:29] <Sonistar> 0_0
[17:29] * Ghaleon bans sort for being out of order
[17:29] <sort> :O
[17:30] <Decept404> that thing needs to fucking die already
[17:30] <sort> everyone knows not to click
[17:30] <sort> if you dont know it, then its time to learn
[17:30] <sort> :D
[17:32] <Ghaleon> yer mama learned about it first hand
[17:32] <sort> oh snap
[17:35] <Ghaleon> burgalar in da house
[17:37] <Ghaleon> for the good of all of us except those who are dead
[17:38] <kermit`> :O
[17:40] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[17:40] <Ghaleon> I'm making a note here
[17:41] <Ghaleon> HUGE SUCCESS
[17:41] <Ghaleon> ban everyone
[17:41] <Ghaleon> D
[17:41] <Ghaleon> ;D
[17:42] <[Relic]> :)
[18:00] * BigRedPm_ is now known as BigRedPmp
[18:02] * chai_ is now known as chai
[18:51] * _Butcher_ puts Ghaleon in the relaxation vault
[18:52] * Ghaleon flushes the toilet
[18:55] * flashed flashes Ghaleon down the toilet
[18:59] <kozmonaut> can anyone who downloaded my game try and connect for me
[18:59] <kozmonaut> want to see if people can connect to my new computer running the server
[19:08] <Ghaleon> :O
[19:08] <Ghaleon> E_TOO_MUCH_SPEEDS
[19:12] <frob-> E_TOO_MUCH_FIREWALS
[19:13] <_Butcher_> E_TOO_MANY_ERRORS
[19:28] <kozmonaut> its a new computer noobs
[19:34] <Ghaleon> a new newbsputar
[19:36] <flashed> lawl
[19:44] <Ultyma> lol
[19:45] <darvish> does anyone have a good method on applying texture mapping on a ray caster
[19:59] <chai> ray caster ?
[20:00] <darvish> yeah im drawing one vertical strip with pixels
[20:02] <darvish> where the vertical strip represents one wall segment
[20:02] <Decept404> so why does xp need to *reboot* once an RPC call fails
[20:02] <Decept404> seems kind of harsh
[20:03] <Ultyma> lol
[20:28] <Ghaleon> Decept404: it comits suicide
[20:29] <flashed> harakiri..
[20:29] <flashed> too much shame
[20:30] <[Relic]> Decept404, that is a feature not a bug :)
[20:54] <chai> darvish, you mean like planar ?
[20:55] <chai> most games use uvmapping
[20:58] <Decept404> everyone should watch No country for old men
[20:58] <Decept404> great film
[21:00] <Ghaleon> No Country For Riding Brokeback
[21:14] <darvish> chai: i mean like wolf3d type game, it uses ray casting
[21:14] <chai> still don't follow
[21:15] <chai> ye each wall was like one texture or something
[21:15] <chai> or fixed segment in the texture
[21:15] <darvish> each wall is lets say 64x64 and has its own texture
[21:15] <chai> well guess I can't help, I'm not a programmer :)
[21:21] <Ghaleon> cast ray, find distance..
[21:21] <Ghaleon> draw according to distance
[21:22] <darvish> i just don't see how i would draw the textures tho
[21:23] <Ghaleon> ;P
[21:23] <Ghaleon> jezuz
[21:23] <Ghaleon> you open the bitmap
[21:23] <Ghaleon> then draw the pixels
[21:23] <Ghaleon> reverse texture mapping
[21:24] <Ghaleon> you should probably just google
[21:24] <Decept404> jesus assassin's creed is boring
[21:24] <greinwich> this is true
[21:25] <kozmonaut> hrm
[21:25] <kozmonaut> anyone have an asus board?
[21:25] <greinwich> yep
[21:25] <kozmonaut> hrm, i think i may be having probs, my chasis fan says on pc probe that i
[21:26] <Decept404> i have no idea how they managed to make a game this boring
[21:26] <Decept404> i havent been this bored since.. hmm
[21:27] <Decept404> no. most boring game ever.
[21:27] <Decept404> worse, how'd gamespot give this a 9
[21:27] <Decept404> oh wait..
[21:27] <Decept404> ;P
[21:28] <flashed> everyone gave it good reviews
[21:30] <Decept404> the climbing stuff is spectacular
[21:30] <Decept404> the game stuff is boring
[21:34] <Decept404> haha some really funny moments though. you're fighting like 8 dudes, you
[21:34] <Decept404> and you calmly walk over, lie down in some hay
[21:34] <Decept404> and then everyone stops chasing you
[21:39] <nasalinfe> hi
[21:39] <PitDroid> que tal, nasalinfe
[21:39] <nasalinfe> i want to learn how to make to .x files collide
[21:40] <nasalinfe> so far i understand to put a bounding box around them
[21:40] <nasalinfe> and take 8 corners
[21:41] <nasalinfe> anyone?
[21:43] <Ghaleon> that's one way
[21:44] <nasalinfe> right
[21:46] <nasalinfe> whats the other way?
[21:47] <nasalinfe> another thing thats bugging me is , should i work with a console window a
[21:48] <Ghaleon> a console window and run? @_@
[21:48] <nasalinfe> otherwise you cant see varible values etc
[21:48] <Ghaleon> you mean debugging?
[21:48] <nasalinfe> no window mode
[21:48] <Ghaleon> it helps
[21:48] <nasalinfe> so your able to see the console
[21:49] <nasalinfe> i know how to write text to the device
[21:49] <nasalinfe> but not on the z plane
[21:49] <nasalinfe> just x and y
[21:49] <Ghaleon> ?_?
[21:49] <Ghaleon> make a log class, write to a file
[21:49] <Ghaleon> it's better
[21:49] <nasalinfe> say if i wanted to print each corner of the bounding box to screen
[21:49] <Ghaleon> why not show them with geometry?
[21:49] <Ghaleon> use a linelist?
[21:49] <nasalinfe> on each of the corner
[21:50] <nasalinfe> ive only used linelist for making custom vertex
[21:50] <Ghaleon> http://sourceforge.net/projects/coldet
[21:50] <Ghaleon> ^ that's another way
[21:51] <nasalinfe> so would i set the struct to each xy z croner?
[21:51] <nasalinfe> when drawing the linelist
[21:52] <Ghaleon> you'd draw lines between the corners...
[21:52] <nasalinfe> struct line{ float x , float y, float z, float RHW};
[21:53] <nasalinfe> what about use CreateBox
[21:53] <nasalinfe> its in the same catogory as Teapot
[21:53] <Ghaleon> that's not going to be the one you want
[21:53] <Ghaleon> that will cover everything up
[21:54] <nasalinfe> hmm
[21:54] <Ghaleon> struct LineVertex{ D3DXVECTOR3 pos; D3DCOLOR clr; }
[21:54] <Ghaleon> ;
[21:54] <nasalinfe> and do 8 of them?
[21:54] <nasalinfe> for each corner
[21:55] <nasalinfe> of the boundingbox
[21:55] <Ghaleon> well... it's 4 lines up top, 4 down low, and 4 in the middle
[21:55] <Ghaleon> each point gets visited 3 times
[21:56] <nasalinfe> :/
[21:56] <Ghaleon> 24 points total
[21:57] <nasalinfe> this is hard :/
[21:58] <Ghaleon> no?
[22:00] <nasalinfe> so you make a box around the object
[22:00] <nasalinfe> calculate the max width and height
[22:00] <nasalinfe> then what happens if the object is moved with translation
[22:01] <Ghaleon> you move the box
[22:01] <nasalinfe> both move
[22:01] <nasalinfe> does all 8 corners get the world cordinates as floats?
[22:05] <Ghaleon> well... I wouldn't really store the box in world coords
[22:05] <Ghaleon> you'd be moving it all the time
[22:06] <Ghaleon> it's easier to just store them in model space
[22:06] <Ghaleon> and do the checks with the object position
[22:06] <Ghaleon> (obj.box1.pos + obj.pos)
[22:06] <Ghaleon> that sort of thing
[22:06] <nasalinfe> oh
[22:25] <veritas> sup
[22:43] <stringa> does anyone know how I can start a commandline app from a WinForms Program?
[22:45] <chai> "Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding."
[22:45] <chai> that's a good one ^^
[22:45] <flashed> tru
[22:58] <Decept404> waldo isnt actually hiding though
[22:58] <Decept404> he's just encumbered by his similarity to other objects
[22:58] <Decept404> might say he's handicapped
[23:19] <frob-> What would that be? Homo-Enviro-diversification impaired?
[23:23] <frob-> ie: failure to recognize that everything around you is starting to look distu
[23:31] <Decept404> oh bloody hell, looks like i have to buy a ps3 to bring my taxes down
[23:31] <flashed> :O
[23:32] <flashed> bummer
[23:32] <Decept404> srsly
[23:32] * Decept404 looks for games that look at least playable
[23:32] <stringa> hey...does anyone know what the @ means in this C# code ? pInfo.FileName =
[23:33] <Decept404> http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/
[23:33] <Decept404> oh my god
[23:33] <Decept404> thats sad
[23:33] <Decept404> i see Uncharted. thats it.
[23:38] <flashed> any different for 360? or pc?
[23:39] <frob-> It's pretty pathetic when I can run through the entire list and none of them
[23:40] <frob-> Team Fortress in orange box, but even that rates pretty low with me.
[23:42] <frob-> But even that is a sequel. The rest are all like "Guitar Hero 7", Unreal Tou
[23:42] <frob-> "Call of Duty 40: The Monotony Continues"
[23:43] <frob-> And also "NCAA Basketball 2008: Can you believe we've done 2008 of these?"
[23:43] <flashed> çpç
[23:44] <frob-> Looking at the details, it looks like "Uncharted: Yet Another Shooter"
[23:47] <flashed> yes
[23:47] <frob-> But prettier. :-)
[23:48] <flashed> even worse than halo 3: fanboys with zitts
[23:48] <frob-> "This year, the forest scenes look more dramatic. When you blow people up, t
[23:48] <frob-> ;-)
[23:49] <Decept404> super fanbros
[23:49] <Decept404> i'm really clutching at straws here
[23:49] <Decept404> i can't see ONE reason to pay for a ps3
[23:49] <Decept404> it's a lot of money
[23:49] <Decept404> :(
[23:50] <flashed> i have one.. just cuse
[23:51] <Anddos> resident evil for ps3 will be the dogs bolox
[23:51] <Anddos> and metal gear
[23:52] <flashed> gt5
[23:52] <flashed> gta4
[23:52] <flashed> dmc4
[23:52] <flashed> bp
[23:52] <Nutter> yeah, PS3 has more games *I* would play than the X360
[23:53] <Nutter> still not paying that much for a console though :P
[23:54] <Anddos> http://uk.gamespot.com/video/929198/6175676/resident-evil-5-official-trailer
[23:54] <Anddos> wow
Session Close: Mon Dec 31 00:00:00 2007