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Session Start: Thu Dec 27 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:44] <[]> LOL
[00:44] <[]> ok i think i just found the worst movie EVAR
[00:45] <[]> what i cant understand is how john voight is in it
[00:45] <[]> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0270882/
[00:45] <[]> i challenge anyone to find me a worse movie
[00:46] <[]> plan 9 can kiss my ass, its a classic and at least it had space zombies trying t
[00:50] <kaotrix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0
[00:50] <Dr_Rambo> yeh, xmas they always shows the worst and borest snooze fest on TV
[00:51] <[]> i'm d/ling it
[00:52] <[]> d/l faster you POS!!! lol
[00:54] <[]> kaotrix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNWbMGzT20c&NR=1
[00:57] <kaotrix> hahaha
[00:59] <kaotrix> that's messed up man
[00:59] <kaotrix> our tax dollars going to waste
[00:59] <[]> seen the barbaric clip?
[00:59] <PitDroid> I haven't seen 'the', []
[00:59] <kaotrix> nope
[00:59] <[]> ohlol
[00:59] <kaotrix> PtiDroid: Sup
[00:59] <kaotrix> PitDroid: Sup
[01:00] <kaotrix> PitDroid: ?
[01:00] <PitDroid> i don't know, kaotrix
[01:00] <[]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V95eGgZbrU&feature=related
[01:00] <kaotrix> PitDroid: ORLY?
[01:00] <PitDroid> i haven't a clue, kaotrix
[01:00] <[]> ok thats the last stupid youtube link i'm pasting tonight
[01:00] <[]> i've hit my limit
[01:00] <[]> check out the pokemon remix of it tho lol
[01:01] <kaotrix> lmao!!
[01:01] <kaotrix> wtf
[01:01] <kaotrix> this guy is messed up
[01:01] <[]> BAR.BAR-ICK! barbaric.
[02:20] <sort> http://www.lifeformz.com/weblog/uploaded_images/cylon-797954.jpg
[02:24] <kozmonaut> downloading pirates of the burning sea public beta
[02:25] <kozmonaut> looks hawt
[02:25] <sort> thats good
[02:25] <sort> my friend works there
[02:34] <kozmonaut> ha this newbie game designer wants me to asemble a team for his project
[02:34] <kozmonaut> wants to make a flash game like counter strike
[02:34] <kozmonaut> im gonna convince him to give me money for my game
[02:37] * Goul-AFK is now known as GoulJusan
[02:41] <greinwich> a/s/l?
[02:43] <Squee-Wrk> 98/No longer matters/Retirment home
[02:44] <greinwich> die already imo :|
[02:44] <Squee-Wrk> why you little whippersnapper! I'll give you a right thrashing with my wa
[02:44] <greinwich> up yours grandpa
[02:44] <Squee-Wrk> god i wish i was immortal
[02:47] <GoulJusan> lol
[02:47] <kozmonaut> i entered a contest for one of those "rascals"
[02:47] <kozmonaut> those 4 wheelers old people drive and they all say "i won my free rascal"
[02:48] <GoulJusan> i want one
[02:48] <kozmonaut> if i win it, im gonna pimp it out, with like hydroics, nitros, flames com
[02:48] <kozmonaut> even have a half empty can of oil, so if they give me a run for my money,
[02:49] <kozmonaut> for extra effect my flames light the oil on fire, and burning old rascals
[02:49] <kozmonaut> ill even name it "Whippersnappers revenge on wheels"
[02:50] <GoulJusan> lol
[02:50] <Squee-Wrk> oh yeah because the whippersnappers are so opressed by the elderly they r
[02:50] <Squee-Wrk> ;)
[02:50] <kozmonaut> its true
[02:50] <kozmonaut> they hog all the front seats on a bus
[02:50] <Squee-Wrk> oh you poor thing you
[02:51] <Squee-Wrk> Invalids keep koz awake at night
[02:51] <kozmonaut> their whole "im old a feeble" is just an act so we go out of our way for
[02:51] <Squee-Wrk> god im 34 and i cant make it up the stairs without feeling like an old ma
[02:52] <GoulJusan> have more sex
[02:52] <kozmonaut> invest in my rpg, will cure all your wounds.
[02:52] <Squee-Wrk> makes me dinner too?
[02:52] <kozmonaut> i will also personaly cast 'rejuvenenate major' on you, to decrease your
[02:53] <Squee-Wrk> use a d20 please?
[02:53] <Squee-Wrk> or 10+1d9
[02:53] <kozmonaut> invest more then 200 and yes
[02:53] <Squee-Wrk> hehehe
[02:53] <kozmonaut> but its 2 random 1d9s
[02:54] <kozmonaut> better your odds, invest more monies
[02:54] <GoulJusan> lol
[02:54] <kozmonaut> and with this tirade i retire for the evening
[02:55] <Squee-Wrk> night
[02:55] <Squee-Wrk> i go back to my code
[03:41] * tif is now known as realtime
[05:59] <Ultyma> hR$X
[06:02] <kw-> anyone here from denmark? I got some trivia questions about that country :P
[06:06] <Thoys> dont they have woodenshoes and mills there?
[06:06] <kw-> that's dutchies
[06:06] <kw-> I'm dutch :
[06:06] <kw-> :|
[06:07] <Thoys> me too ;d
[06:07] <kw-> lul ;D
[06:07] <Thoys> ;d
[06:37] <GrantaX\0> Thoys: Wooden shoes? :P
[06:39] <Thoys> yeh ;d
[06:39] <Thoys> http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/d30-2/wooden-shoes.jpg
[06:58] <Sembiance> hrm
[06:58] <Sembiance> you'd think with the vast resources of the internet, I'd be able to find
[06:59] <Ultyma> lawl
[06:59] <Ultyma> look google images
[06:59] <Sembiance> I tried
[07:11] <Borealis> maybe some foot fetish porn could help you out Sembiance? :P
[07:12] <Borealis> is there a channel for that on efnet?
[07:12] <Sembiance> helloheh
[07:13] <GrantaX\0> I know what wooden shoes are, but I doubt that people from denmark use th
[09:52] <Ghaleon> flashed has wooden shoez and is nekkid
[09:53] <flashed> nah
[09:53] <flashed> just nekkid
[09:55] <Ghaleon> []: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364986/
[09:55] * Ghaleon emails flashed a pair of wooden shoez
[09:56] <Cryovat> D:
[09:56] * Cryovat hides from Ghaleon
[09:58] * Ghaleon emails Cryovat a coffee mug
[10:04] <Ghaleon> so whatz u guys up to?
[10:04] <Ghaleon> still slaqn?
[10:04] <kermit`> yesh yesh! ofc
[10:04] <ht7z> slaqn for life
[10:05] <Ghaleon> http://www.videosift.com/video/Wii-Remote-Accident
[10:05] <Ghaleon> werd up my klan
[10:05] <Ghaleon> todays plan: sry, was too busy slaqn to plan
[10:10] <flashed> werd
[11:04] <[]> lol Ghaleon
[11:04] <[]> is that your entry for a worse movie than karate dog?
[11:05] <[]> lol that really does look like a muddled pos
[11:05] <[]> and super, super gay
[11:13] <[]> yeah i cant find any naked chix in wooden shoes either... odd, google has failed
[11:15] <aav_hlm> huh
[11:16] <Cryovat> []: http://imdb.com/title/tt0060666/
[11:16] <Cryovat> Hah
[11:16] <Cryovat> That movie Ghaleon linked actually scores lower
[11:18] <[]> yeah
[11:19] <[]> but the gayness might have pushed it down some
[11:19] <Ultyma> LEI
[11:19] <[]> and the mst3k may have pushed yours up some
[11:19] <[]> i bet they're both comparably painful to watch
[11:19] <[]> lol paris hilton
[11:19] <[]> her parents are only inheriting about 8 million
[11:20] <[]> so paris is gonna be lucky to inherit a million or so, she is *not* rich now lol
[11:20] <[]> http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2007-12-26-hilton-donate_N.htm
[11:20] <ht7z> huhu, she still has more than enough
[11:21] <[]> lol a million aint much
[11:21] <[]> sure the hell isnt supa-rich
[11:22] <[]> now she's just some run of the mill whore, instead of a superrich whore... somet
[11:23] <ht7z> [], million? :f think she has made over 50mil on her "career"
[11:23] <ht7z> huhu
[11:26] <[]> lol i dunno, you know how these 'rock star' types go with their bullshit contrac
[11:27] <[]> this is the most i've given a shit about paris news in a long long time... would
[11:28] <[]> i predict her and britney making some porns together within 4 years, mebe less
[11:30] <Cryovat> Wait two years and Spears jr can join in
[11:32] <[]> lol
[11:34] <Sonistar> hey all
[11:34] <Cryovat> YO star
[11:34] <Cryovat> *caps
[11:39] <Ghaleon> ht7z: yes but she spent at least 60 million on her "snow" addiction ;)
[11:40] <Ghaleon> beware, I am Sonistar
[11:40] <[]> lol
[11:40] <Sonistar> but, but.
[11:40] <[]> 'BEWARE! I live....'
[11:41] <Ghaleon> run, run, run, coward
[11:41] <[]> lol
[11:41] * [] harvests crystals
[11:41] <[]> ever play the newer 3d one?
[11:41] * Ghaleon vacuum chews []
[11:41] <Ghaleon> yes
[11:41] <Ghaleon> with my MS Flight stick
[11:41] <[]> it was almost cool
[11:41] <Ghaleon> it was dope
[11:41] <[]> i couldnt get super into it
[11:41] <[]> but it was tolerable
[11:41] <Ghaleon> I was just happy it was not incredibly hard
[11:42] <[]> lol ya
[11:42] <Ghaleon> centipede was probably the best remake
[11:42] <[]> never saw centipede rmake
[11:42] <[]> 3d and stuff?
[11:42] <Ghaleon> yesch
[11:43] <Ghaleon> use Glide
[11:43] <Ghaleon> was uber smewth
[11:43] <Ghaleon> http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/centipede
[11:43] <[]> damn, 'too human' looks pretty tight
[11:43] <[]> for 360
[11:44] <Ghaleon> triple sixty in da hizzy hizouse
[11:45] <[]> looks crazy
[11:45] <[]> http://images.1888freeonlinegames.com/download-games/centipede/centipede-game.jp
[11:45] <[]> thats it?
[11:46] <Ghaleon> yeah
[11:46] <[]> coo
[11:47] <[]> http://games.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Too-Human-Beserker-Trailer-Screenshot
[11:47] <Ghaleon> seen it ;)
[11:48] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[11:48] <[]> hi
[11:49] <[Relic]> :)
[11:49] <Daveman> :)
[11:52] <Ghaleon> whoah, didn't see you there [Relic], perhaps you should knock first
[11:52] <Ghaleon> ;D
[11:52] <Daveman> ;p
[12:01] <[Relic]> :)
[12:03] <Daveman> :D
[12:20] <Ghaleon> Werkin already
[12:20] <Ghaleon> what an anti-slaqr
[12:20] * Ghaleon slaps CyrixWork w/ some three siddy gamez
[12:27] <Ultyma> erher
[12:30] <Ghaleon> wutz up Slaqyma
[12:33] <Ultyma> notta
[12:33] <Ultyma> just chillin at my new job
[12:36] <Ghaleon> @ werk
[12:36] <Ghaleon> wut a punk
[12:36] * Ghaleon bans Ultyma
[12:36] <wkr4k3r> what is the best way to store character info?
[12:36] <wkr4k3r> XML?
[12:36] <wkr4k3r> heh
[12:36] <Ghaleon> depends
[12:36] <Ghaleon> you want to be able to edit it?
[12:36] <Ghaleon> you want others to be able to edit it?
[12:36] <wkr4k3r> yea
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> i dont want hardoded
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> i have a few for testing
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> want to move away from that
[12:37] <Ghaleon> I meanz u want it to be haxd?
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> no
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> but the server is designed to stop that shit
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> they can try
[12:37] <wkr4k3r> but it wont do shit
[12:37] <Ghaleon> huhu
[12:37] <Ghaleon> then store it in a db
[12:37] <Ghaleon> on the server
[12:37] <Ghaleon> ;D
[12:38] <wkr4k3r> the server stores their state at least
[12:38] <eTrece> a nice GIS database is always fun ;P
[12:38] <wkr4k3r> so if they screw with state they get updated
[12:38] <wkr4k3r> or booted
[12:39] <Ghaleon> so in essence it doesn't need to be user editable
[12:39] <Ghaleon> just use fwrite()
[12:39] <wkr4k3r> and some crappy windows prog?
[12:39] <Ghaleon> xml is way overtop for data players don't need to see/edit
[12:39] <wkr4k3r> okay
[12:39] <Ghaleon> winders prog?
[12:39] <Ghaleon> it's in the clib
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> a config prog
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> or whatever
[12:40] <Ghaleon> config prog?
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> i need to have a level editor
[12:40] <Ghaleon> configure playa playa?
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> and a character editor
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> etc
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> object editor
[12:40] <Ghaleon> in game homez
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> i guess you would be better name
[12:40] <Ghaleon> has to be validated with server
[12:40] <wkr4k3r> and AI editor that binds the two
[12:40] <Ghaleon> so editing by hand is bleh
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> well
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> it validates it
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> if they get behind they are behind
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> and lag
[12:41] <Ghaleon> and if it's invalid, what? you have to exit and re-edit the file
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> lol
[12:41] <Ghaleon> sounds like lamez
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> no
[12:41] <wkr4k3r> nobody ever touches this crap
[12:42] <wkr4k3r> only people that run servers
[12:42] <wkr4k3r> clients dont
[12:42] <wkr4k3r> im not worried about hacked clients
[12:42] * Ghaleon makes wkr4k3r worried
[12:42] <wkr4k3r> if they hack the client the server will catch them
[12:43] <wkr4k3r> sure they can turn walls off
[12:43] * Ghaleon runs botnets and gold farms on wkr4k3r's servers
[12:43] <wkr4k3r> yea right
[12:43] <Ghaleon> ;D
[12:43] <Ghaleon> anyways
[12:43] <wkr4k3r> if you edit the character data you gain nothing
[12:44] <wkr4k3r> only on the server end
[12:44] <wkr4k3r> do you
[12:44] <wkr4k3r> heh
[12:44] <Ghaleon> you sound like you need an editor
[12:44] <wkr4k3r> yea
[12:44] <Ghaleon> you could have an intermediate format, like xml
[12:44] <Cryovat> Hmm
[12:44] <Ghaleon> but most assuredly have something simpler
[12:44] <Cryovat> Jamie Oliver on the television just said "And this way we'll make the cabba
[12:44] <Ghaleon> reading in that xml all the time when it's not going to change = waste
[12:45] <Ghaleon> like storing bmp data in xml
[12:45] <eTrece> Cryovat, what could you possibly be watching? ;P
[12:46] <Cryovat> Television is on with some cooking program ;)
[12:46] <Cryovat> Ghaleon, I've seen a tilemap format you'd love
[12:46] <Cryovat> <Tile PositionX="10" PositionY="10" Tile="something.bmp">
[12:47] <Ghaleon> just 800MB per map
[12:48] <Cryovat> Efficient loading too :D
[12:50] <Ghaleon> yesch... parsing out text and converting it to binary data
[12:50] <Cryovat> And building a DOM tree :D
[12:50] <Ghaleon> s/DOM/DUM
[12:51] <Ghaleon> the tree is a lie
[12:52] <Cryovat> This is interesting
[12:52] <Cryovat> I'm writing an editor where you edit things as a graph
[12:52] <Cryovat> That's saved to an xml tree
[12:53] <Cryovat> Which is preprocessed and turned into serialized objects by the XNA pipelin
[12:53] <Cryovat> Redundancy yay!
[12:53] <eTrece> lol
[12:53] <eTrece> ahh, redundancy redundancy
[12:54] <Ghaleon> run the redundant redundancy checker
[12:59] <Ultyma> lalw
[13:34] <s1d> fbo oh-oh-oh
[13:36] <kozmonaut> wow, someone lvled to like lvl 20 today on my rpg
[13:37] <ht7z> cheater
[13:37] <Ultyma> lol]
[13:43] <s1d> h4ck3r
[13:43] <s1d> ban him
[13:45] <factor> hey
[13:45] <PitDroid> what's up, factor
[13:48] <Decept404> hollar
[13:54] <factor> sup decept?
[14:12] <wkr4k3r> hi
[15:41] <Ghaleon> just do the ghalbonix quest over and over, I hear you get 31337 xp for it e
[15:44] <directhex> wrong
[15:45] <Dr_Rambo> MAXIMUM XMAS!
[15:47] <Ghaleon> xtreme package opening
[15:48] <directhex> what u get?
[15:48] <Ghaleon> monays
[15:48] <Ghaleon> to pay fer my laptop
[15:48] <directhex> plus plus
[15:49] <Ghaleon> werk gave me Assassin's Creed
[15:49] <Ghaleon> to better learn to stab people in da baq
[15:49] <ht7z> too bad it sucks
[15:49] <ht7z> no wonder they gave it
[15:49] <Ghaleon> iunno, seems fine to me
[15:49] <directhex> yeah i saw the game played last night. has potential
[15:50] <ht7z> yah, remember to climb alot
[15:50] <Ghaleon> at least it's not the CrashStation 3 version
[15:50] <ht7z> climbing is the key, you can get away with murder if you climb
[15:50] <ht7z> huhu
[15:50] <directhex> find the hay stack
[15:51] <directhex> gamestop had it $20 off yesterday
[15:53] <Ghaleon> :O
[15:53] <Ghaleon> ht7z: what if you dig?
[15:54] <ht7z> no idea digging your own grave
[15:55] <directhex> hide the bodies?
[15:55] <Ghaleon> dig dug
[15:58] <Decept404> assassin's creed
[15:58] <Decept404> ...
[16:00] <Ghaleon> Decept0r's Creedance Clearwater Revival
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[16:04] <wkr4k3r> anyone know of a .3ds -> qhull program?
[16:06] <Ghaleon> wutwut
[16:06] <Ghaleon> what is qhull
[16:06] * yenal_ is now known as yenal
[16:07] <flashed> some gay format
[16:07] <wkr4k3r> a convex collision hull generator
[16:07] <flashed> just like .3ds
[16:08] <wkr4k3r> no
[16:08] <wkr4k3r> its simplified
[16:08] <wkr4k3r> for collision checking
[16:08] <flashed> wuteva..
[16:08] <flashed> anything comin out of 3ds is gay
[16:08] <wkr4k3r> why?
[16:08] <flashed> cuse
[16:09] <Ghaleon> max uses .max
[16:09] <Ghaleon> so mwahaha
[16:09] <Ghaleon> .3ds is old skewl
[16:09] <flashed> yeah
[16:09] <wkr4k3r> its not that old
[16:09] <flashed> .3ds is from 3d studio rX
[16:09] <flashed> wich was dos
[16:09] <flashed> only old school non gay format is .obj
[16:09] <flashed> only actual non gay format is .fbx
[16:09] <wkr4k3r> hmm
[16:10] <wkr4k3r> ms has .obj loading doesnt it?
[16:10] <wkr4k3r> i have a .x loader
[16:10] <wkr4k3r> i need .max->.obj
[16:10] <wkr4k3r> i can .3ds->.x
[16:10] <wkr4k3r> no problem
[16:11] <wkr4k3r> i need .3ds->.obj
[16:12] * yenal_ is now known as yenal
[16:12] <Minion> .3DS is the shittiest model format in existence
[16:12] <Daveman> ...
[16:12] <Minion> however milkshape should load it
[16:12] <Minion> and then you can save it as obj
[16:12] <Minion> not advised but it will work
[16:13] <kozmonaut> use MB
[16:13] <kozmonaut> or MA
[16:14] <kozmonaut> eg maya binary and maya ascii
[16:14] <Ghaleon> MB requires plugins
[16:14] <Ghaleon> plugins that only come with maya
[16:14] <kozmonaut> so what
[16:14] <Ghaleon> :(
[16:14] <kozmonaut> write them, or dl them
[16:14] <Minion> just use obj if your file is strictly geometry
[16:14] * Ghaleon dl's them from kozmonaut's mama's computar
[16:14] <kozmonaut> fu newp
[16:14] <Ghaleon> in Kazbeckastan
[16:14] <Minion> fuck maya
[16:15] <Minion> sorry, language
[16:15] <Minion> screw maya
[16:15] <kozmonaut> aight, if you wanna play with some cheap haxy extention, thats your call
[16:15] <Minion> I use 3ds max like a normal person
[16:15] * Ghaleon uses .hax
[16:15] <Ghaleon> I want to use collada
[16:15] <Ghaleon> that's supposed to be the second comming
[16:15] <Minion> we're using collada
[16:16] <kozmonaut> i duno, every studio ive ever worked in, or educational school has all us
[16:16] <kozmonaut> max is cheaper then maya for a reason..
[16:16] <Minion> because there's only one version of max and maya has 3, yeah, that's a good
[16:16] <Ghaleon> no
[16:16] <Ghaleon> Maya is cheaper
[16:17] <kozmonaut> no, maya is more expensive then max for the full package
[16:17] <Ghaleon> bcuz of licensed pluginz
[16:18] <kozmonaut> i find programming plugins in mel script is way easier then 3dsmax format
[16:18] <Ghaleon> I never did max plugins
[16:18] <Ghaleon> but mel is the devil
[16:18] <kozmonaut> they are whack
[16:18] <kozmonaut> you might as well use ogre3d
[16:18] <Ghaleon> the new Maya is abandoning mel
[16:19] <kozmonaut> 8.5 or 9?
[16:19] <Ghaleon> 8.5b & 9?
[16:19] <Ghaleon> might just be 9
[16:19] <kozmonaut> yeah, i know 8.5 just came out
[16:19] <kozmonaut> so prob in 9, i wonder what they gonna use
[16:19] <kozmonaut> mel was cool for creating particle emitters and shit
[16:20] <Ghaleon> the skript guy has been studying perl
[16:20] <Ghaleon> I don't know if that's a sign
[16:20] <kozmonaut> 3dsmax vs maya is like ms paint vs photoshop
[16:21] <flashed> wkr4k3r: 3dsmax 8+ has obj exporters
[16:21] <Ghaleon> nah
[16:21] <Ghaleon> max is way better at low poly modelin
[16:21] * flashed slaps kozmonaut around a bit with a large trout
[16:21] <flashed> kozmonaut: stop beeing a newbie fan boy
[16:21] <kozmonaut> what the fuck
[16:21] <flashed> both are crap
[16:21] <kozmonaut> ive been using maya for like 8 years
[16:22] <flashed> congratulations..
[16:22] <kozmonaut> maya kills max for animation and rendering
[16:22] <flashed> riiight
[16:22] <kozmonaut> whatever man
[16:22] <Ghaleon> leeeeeeft
[16:22] <kozmonaut> fuck off
[16:22] <flashed> maya renderer is crap
[16:23] <flashed> it has mental gay now.. but meh.. you need to know shaders
[16:23] <flashed> and its soo artist unfriendly
[16:23] <flashed> 3dsmax has the best renderers around..
[16:24] <flashed> brazil 2.0.. vray. has mental gay for the newbs that prefer it
[16:31] <Ghaleon> bundinha 3.0
[16:31] <Ghaleon> extra pushin in da cushin
[16:33] <flashed> werd
[16:35] <flashed> bundinha and caipira plus some bundinha slappin for life!
[16:36] <Ghaleon> :D
[16:39] <Decept404> flashed you're off the fucking hook
[16:39] <Decept404> i'll just say that
[16:41] <Ghaleon> decept0r in effect
[16:42] <Decept404> saying a package is "artist unfriendly" for not supporting whatever rende
[16:42] <flashed> you tried to master mental gay shaders?
[16:42] <Decept404> maya for life for me. You can't pay me to use 3dsmax. It's like playing t
[16:43] <flashed> use whatever you want
[16:43] <flashed> but some comentary like <kozmonaut> 3dsmax vs maya is like ms paint v
[16:44] <Decept404> i agree
[16:44] <Decept404> the tools boil down to what the artist does with them
[16:44] <flashed> then i was talking about this comentary: <kozmonaut> maya kills max f
[16:44] <Decept404> for animation i'll say totally
[16:44] <flashed> wich is only 50% true
[16:45] <flashed> yes.. animation maya can be king
[16:45] <flashed> but not for rendering for the reasons i stated before
[16:45] <flashed> and now someone will say maya is used for big vfx movies and i'll say they
[16:47] <Decept404> i don't really consider renderers specific to the package
[16:48] <flashed> now a days they arent
[16:48] <flashed> but they were..
[16:48] <Decept404> there's not a major effects studio out there that doesnt use every single
[16:48] <flashed> renderman.. brazil.. mental ray..
[16:48] <flashed> yes.. whatever gets the job done
[16:48] <Ghaleon> blendar iz da bestest
[16:48] * Ghaleon runs into the bunker
[16:48] <flashed> ahaha
[16:49] <Decept404> blender is so emblematic of the early linux crowd
[16:49] <Minion> point is maya blows
[16:49] <Ghaleon> fix it yerselfs
[16:49] <Decept404> home cooked = auto-better
[16:49] <Decept404> haha
[16:49] <Decept404> maya does not blow
[16:49] <flashed> it will
[16:50] <flashed> wait and see
[16:50] <Minion> it blows a fat one, and so does 3ds max, this is a competition of the best o
[16:50] * flashed knows the power of autodesk
[16:50] <flashed> Minion: shut up you c4d user!!
[16:50] <Decept404> c4d... ouch...
[16:50] <Minion> no, maxon doesn't even count
[16:50] <flashed> hehe :P
[16:50] <Decept404> i have a friend that swears by c4d
[16:50] <Minion> so do I, and I smile and nod
[16:50] <Decept404> i absolutely loathe that package
[16:50] <Decept404> haha
[16:50] <Minion> cause hes a good guy
[16:50] <flashed> on portuguese foruns there is this dude that claims c4d can be better in an
[16:51] <Decept404> it reminds me of the really old school weird stuff, like swivel3d
[16:51] <Ghaleon> we use zbrush for our Nintendo DS stuff ;D
[16:51] <Decept404> i have a hard time using packages that don't share vocabularies with the
[16:51] <flashed> true
[16:51] <Decept404> especially in terms of shaders, dimensions and materials
[16:51] <flashed> i found the same when i tried it
[16:52] <Decept404> i guess thats what i love the most about maya and hate the most about c4d
[16:52] <Decept404> :P
[16:52] <Ghaleon> C/-\D ?
[16:53] <Decept404> i dunno dude, just try using it once, it's super weird. like screw you gu
[16:53] <Decept404> sometimes that's good, other times, not so much
[16:53] <Ghaleon> so like blender
[16:54] <Minion> SOUNDS LIKE ZBRUSH
[16:54] <Minion> "Camera? Man fuck you, we have a *canvas*"
[16:54] <Ghaleon> "We hatez society, use our way or die"
[16:54] <Minion> "We don't have pixels we have PIXOLS"
[16:55] <Ghaleon> pix0lz 0f p0w0r
[16:56] <flashed> zbroche 3 is better on the viewport aspect
[16:56] <flashed> 2 was too bad
[16:56] <flashed> Ghaleon: you know what broche is?
[16:56] <Minion> "Model? What's a model? Save a 'tool'!"
[16:57] <flashed> ehhe
[17:01] <Decept404> hm
[17:01] <Decept404> AV heads
[17:01] <Decept404> my setup has several bits of hw that uses component cables
[17:02] <Decept404> i need some kind of thing to hook them all up to my tv and switch between
[17:02] <Decept404> is there a way to do that like.. automagically? Like by presedence?
[17:02] <Decept404> or do i need a box with a switch on it or something
[17:02] <Ultyma> AHCKS
[17:02] <Ultyma> you need a box
[17:03] <Decept404> magical box?
[17:04] <Ultyma> ya
[17:04] <Ultyma> yo moms box
[17:05] <Ghaleon> sounds familiar but I does not know
[17:07] <Decept404> i dunno
[17:08] <Decept404> i hate getting up to disconnect and reconnect 5 cables every time i want
[17:10] <[]> theres multi-av source selectors
[17:10] <[]> but i dont much care for them
[17:10] <[]> none in hidef that i know of
[17:11] <[]> i've had a couple and they've all pissed me off
[17:11] <[]> one tried to marry itself to my tv remote, didnt work, so the appliance was inop
[17:11] <Decept404> thats what i'm afraid of
[17:11] <[]> the other still requires getting up and turning some switch/crank thin
[17:11] <[]> g
[17:12] <[]> easiest thing i found was to set all the vg boxen near the couch on a seperate r
[17:14] <[]> lol sallie mae going down
[17:14] <[]> why do all these financial super-corps have stupidass names like freddie mac, fa
[17:17] <Ghaleon> deceiver
[17:17] <[]> "Then, CEO Albert Lord held a contentious conference call last week in which he
[17:17] <Ghaleon> I has the uber setup
[17:17] <[]> lol yeah sounds like things are going grand
[17:17] <Ghaleon> u must adopts
[17:18] <[]> starving ethoropians?
[17:18] <[]> do i get a tyco sports watch?
[17:20] <kozmonaut> well hrm
[17:20] <kozmonaut> not too shabby
[17:20] <kozmonaut> someone was logged into my game for 2 hours today and data up/down to my
[17:22] <Ghaleon> total?
[17:29] <kozmonaut> yeah
[17:29] <kozmonaut> not too bad
[17:29] <kozmonaut> i set it up, so data only gets transmuted to the server when a player loa
[17:30] <kozmonaut> most of the other stuff, is done on the clients machine, like animations,
[17:31] <kozmonaut> I think what i might do soon, once my maps are layed out the way i like,
[17:31] <Ghaleon> detail mapz, lawl
[17:31] <[]> heh
[17:32] <Minion> girl u crazy
[17:32] <[]> yeah wow 3d peeps should try that sometime
[17:32] <Ghaleon> he must've been sitting there fap fap fap'in
[17:32] <[]> they could call it a map of light
[17:32] <Minion> 3d people have render to texture
[17:32] <[]> or... nah thats too biblical sounding... how about a 'lightmap'
[17:32] <[]> lol
[17:32] <Minion> WE HAVE A BAKESALE
[17:32] <[]> mmm brownies
[17:33] <Ghaleon> detail maps are for realz
[17:33] <Ghaleon> you can use them in 2D alsos
[17:33] <kozmonaut> well my problem
[17:33] <Minion> PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN
[17:33] <kozmonaut> is i have a system for dynamic lighting
[17:33] <kozmonaut> and shadows on the player
[17:33] * Ghaleon shows pix of Minion's mama sellin brownies
[17:33] <kozmonaut> but it lags so much
[17:34] <Minion> trippy
[17:34] <kozmonaut> i figure if i can do most of the dark/light ambience in photoshop, then a
[17:34] <[]> is your turbo button turned on?
[17:34] <[]> thats probably the problem
[17:34] <Ghaleon> kozmonaut: that's kind of what I'm sayin
[17:34] <Minion> does your game have dynamic time of day changes
[17:34] <Ghaleon> a detail map is just a map that goes over top
[17:34] <kozmonaut> yes
[17:34] <kozmonaut> i have a day night system
[17:35] <Minion> no moving shadows?
[17:35] <kozmonaut> I do, but its in the release build
[17:35] <kozmonaut> er its not
[17:35] <Minion> will you have moving shadows if you paint all the lighting
[17:35] <Minion> I mean, its possible
[17:35] <kozmonaut> yeah
[17:35] <Minion> just seems like a pain
[17:35] <kozmonaut> i set up my shadow emitters as events
[17:36] <kozmonaut> so i set a single event on the fireplace, and define the radius
[17:36] <Minion> yeah I was clearly confused, thought you were going to paint in the shadows
[17:36] <Minion> woops
[17:36] <kozmonaut> so if a player is within 5 pixels of the fireplace, he projects a shadow
[17:36] <greinwich> i have a problem with lines in dx9 :X
[17:36] <[]> well thats what he was talking about
[17:36] <[]> now he's talkinga bout dynamic shadows
[17:37] <[]> we're tangented.
[17:37] <[]> re/ve
[17:37] <kozmonaut> well my dynamic lightning and shadow system is interwined
[17:37] <greinwich> if i do one call to begin/end it will join them all together
[17:37] <Ghaleon> greinwich: lines have a problem with you! >:|
[17:37] <greinwich> if i do begin/end for each one its too slow
[17:37] <kozmonaut> im removing the lighting, and keeping the shadows for less lag
[17:37] <Ghaleon> you are using linestrip
[17:37] <Ghaleon> you need to use linelist
[17:37] <kozmonaut> because i want shadows just affecting the player, cause of the amount of
[17:37] <[]> kozmonaut ever heard of lightmaps?
[17:37] <greinwich> erm dunno, im using LPD3DXLINE
[17:37] <[]> or detailmaps as Ghaleon says
[17:38] <Decept404> lolmaps
[17:38] <Ghaleon> oh
[17:38] <Decept404> defined by lols per minute
[17:38] <Ghaleon> I've never used d3dxline
[17:38] <kozmonaut> yeah, what i might do, is importent my final map into photoshop, then ove
[17:38] <[]> though i've head of detailmaps as a bump mapped texture sorta thing so maybe mix
[17:38] <[]> lolmaps ftw
[17:38] <greinwich> whats the other way to do them? this seems slow no matter what
[17:38] <Minion> I always thought of detail maps in the Unreal sense where they tile a shitty
[17:39] <Minion> so you get rapidly gross tiling relief
[17:39] <Ghaleon> detail maps are just like maps that go over top, they give each individual
[17:39] <[]> yeah thats what i generally think of as a detail map
[17:39] <[]> ok yeah lightmaps are diff then
[17:39] <kozmonaut> right now, i have npcs that can walk around with lanterns, projecting lig
[17:39] <[]> prerendered lighting applied as a variance of light/dark over the main texture c
[17:39] <Ghaleon> lightmaps are detail maps, but only with light values
[17:39] <Decept404> lolvalues
[17:40] <kozmonaut> hehe, i'd love to do it proper, but that requires weird code, that i have
[17:40] <Ghaleon> yeah, lolvalues run much faster on the gpu
[17:40] <Minion> lightmaps are lightmaps, enough of your lies
[17:40] <[]> kozmonaut lol newb
[17:40] <[]> 'weird code'
[17:40] <[]> thats classic
[17:40] <kozmonaut> yes im a newb
[17:40] <kozmonaut> i dont know shit about anything
[17:40] <[]> a scurred one too
[17:40] <Minion> programmins for nerds
[17:40] <Decept404> nerdcodes
[17:40] <kozmonaut> so [] what have you deved?
[17:40] <Decept404> everyone knows programming is just cheats
[17:40] <kozmonaut> since you seem to know tons about everything
[17:41] <[]> i've pasted my screen shots in here a fucking million times
[17:41] <greinwich> i <3 kozmo
[17:41] <greinwich> paste agen
[17:41] <Minion> lemme see
[17:41] <Minion> I wanna c
[17:41] <[]> k
[17:41] <Minion> hrelp
[17:41] <kozmonaut> yeah, let me see some comerical releases.
[17:41] <greinwich> i took photo of my peepee and sold it :>
[17:41] <kozmonaut> man, why do i ever bother to talk in here.
[17:41] <greinwich> hehehehehe
[17:42] * Ghaleon posts his commercial releases like a chestah
[17:42] <kozmonaut> there must be a proper gamedev channel somewhere.
[17:42] <Minion> no
[17:42] <Ghaleon> proper gamedev chan = pm Ghaleon
[17:42] <greinwich> dont speak such liez
[17:42] <[]> http://a364.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/128/l_410bd4cc4e88ddbde8bc854e81ed
[17:42] <Minion> don't do it
[17:42] <[]> theres some screeners of a c++/dx game engine i wrote
[17:42] <Minion> first you're talking about polygons and then he wants you to come alone to a
[17:42] <greinwich> hand ova da src, now.
[17:42] <[]> theres some of that 'weird code' for ya
[17:42] <[]> lol
[17:43] <kozmonaut> whatever man im a scripter but mainly an artist
[17:43] <aav_hlm> Minion, [] is honkykong
[17:43] <kozmonaut> just because i cant code dx or c++ doesnt make me stupid
[17:43] <[]> lol well maybe you shouldnt be some fucking elitest eh? :P
[17:43] <Minion> yeah I realized that just a sec ago
[17:43] <[]> talking about who has game industry jobs and who doesnt
[17:43] <greinwich> hey in serious land, i found a good learning project for nubs like me: ht
[17:43] <[]> makes you sound like a right prick
[17:43] <Minion> I'm Minion
[17:43] <greinwich> it have src code!!
[17:43] <[]> hi Minion
[17:43] <[]> hi aav
[17:43] <[]> whatup ppl
[17:43] <aav_hlm> hi honk
[17:43] <[]> whats good
[17:44] <aav_hlm> just getting tired
[17:44] <aav_hlm> and should sleep :)
[17:44] <[]> yeah i'm in a mood today
[17:44] <kozmonaut> thers a big diff between people who do shit for a hobby and talk down to
[17:44] <[]> hahaha
[17:44] <[]> really now
[17:44] <aav_hlm> you know
[17:45] <aav_hlm> most people IN the industry don't sit here ;)
[17:45] <[]> ok well i got paid to make that game engine
[17:45] <Minion> THIS HAS GOTTEN HOSTILE
[17:45] <Ghaleon> MOST
[17:45] <[]> so does that make me an industry nerd?
[17:45] <[]> i've gotten paid for all kinds of game industry shit
[17:45] <Minion> Ghaleon is a janitor for Ubisoft
[17:45] <aav_hlm> Ghaleon, there are bound to be deviants
[17:45] <aav_hlm> :)
[17:45] <[]> but i think the whole pissing contest thing is for lewsers
[17:45] <kozmonaut> your the one calling me a noob.
[17:45] <[]> what i know defines how good i am, not who i know or who signs my paycheck
[17:45] <aav_hlm> Ghaleon manually cleans away extraneous whitespace in source code with a he
[17:46] <[]> well you're acting like one
[17:46] <Ghaleon> yes
[17:46] <kozmonaut> fuck you
[17:46] <kozmonaut> mother fucker
[17:46] <Ghaleon> stupid whitespace
[17:46] <[]> by saying shit like 'some guy was making fun of my game, and he doesnt even work
[17:46] <kozmonaut> your just like fucking jerkface, all you do is diss other people
[17:46] <[]> HE'S YOUR TARGET MARKET, DIPSHIT
[17:46] <kozmonaut> welcome to kozmoignore (tm)
[17:46] <Minion> This conversation went well!
[17:46] <[]> talkinga bout how he works at a gas station, who the fuck do you think is gonna
[17:47] <kozmonaut> i love ignoring aggro losers in here.
[17:47] * aav_hlm adds more coal to []'s bong fire :)
[17:47] <[]> haha he seems to forget this started with me telling him to go look into lightma
[17:47] <[]> aav lol thats part of the problem
[17:47] <[]> cant smoke, trying to get a paramedic job
[17:48] <aav_hlm> aw :)
[17:49] <Ghaleon> that's.... scary.............
[17:49] <aav_hlm> well thats commendable
[17:49] <[]> haha Ghaleon what, me as a paramedic?
[17:49] <Ghaleon> yes!
[17:49] <[]> aav well thanks i'm just trying to use my youth and health in some branch of pub
[17:49] <[]> hahaha yeah i guess so
[17:49] <[]> highest grades in my class tho
[17:49] <aav_hlm> coolness
[17:49] <aav_hlm> all the best luck man :)
[17:50] <[]> yeah well i'm gradually cleaning out my piss, fucking takes forever tho
[17:50] <Decept404> sexytime
[17:50] <[]> lol why so scary Ghaleon
[17:50] <aav_hlm> considering you are basically made of cannabis now, yeah
[17:50] <[]> i mean, aside from the obvious
[17:50] <[]> inorite hahah
[17:50] <[]> i'm like, 90% pot
[17:50] <Ultyma> great..
[17:50] <Ultyma> and you want to be a paramedic
[17:51] <[]> why does that alarm you
[17:51] <Ultyma> its nice to depend on someone whos stoned to save your life
[17:51] <[]> you noticed the part where i mentioned the highest grades in my class? wasnt kid
[17:51] <aav_hlm> i don't think he intends to smoke while working in that field
[17:51] <[]> of course not
[17:51] <Ghaleon> "c'mon towlie we need to save the world...", "Just a second let me get high
[17:51] <[]> i know i can remember this technique, if i just get high first....
[17:52] <Ghaleon> "why you always gotta be such a downer"
[17:52] <[]> i know i know, we needs a witch doctor and tincture of horse feces
[17:52] <[]> now rub the horseshit into that wound there real deep, it'll clean it out all go
[17:53] <Minion> I dunno where this convo went but it's getting hot in here
[17:53] <[]> lol well you should see what the rest of the class was like
[17:53] <[]> you'd feel reassured having me play with your wounds
[17:53] <aav_hlm> Minion, so take off all your clothes
[17:53] <[]> lol
[17:54] <[]> anyways i'm not a paramedic yet thats a fair bit more schooling, i am a EMT-B th
[17:54] <aav_hlm> Emergency Medical Toker
[17:55] <Decept404> y'all need to watch Cool as ice and Cool runnings again
[17:55] <Decept404> you're lacking in Cool
[17:55] <[]> not me
[17:55] <[]> i'm supacoo
[17:55] <[]> lol aav
[17:56] <Decept404> more like supalol
[17:57] <[]> :P
[17:57] <Decept404> in other news, someone tell me Burnout paradise is awesome
[17:57] <aav_hlm> it's the best since Trespasser
[17:57] <[]> i'll tell you burnout dominator will make you want to stab puppies
[17:58] <[]> gdamn i hated that one
[17:58] <[]> no crash mode, wtf were they thinking.
[17:59] <[]> i played it 3 minutes, read the reviews enough to confirm there was no crash mod
[17:59] <[]> because its his fault their game sucked.
[17:59] <aav_hlm> and thats when you decided to become a paramedic
[17:59] <Decept404> i gotta say dude
[17:59] <[]> yes right around then actually
[17:59] <Decept404> i always hated crash mode
[17:59] <Decept404> random gameplay ftw
[17:59] <[]> i love crash mode
[17:59] <Ghaleon> burnout kittahnator
[17:59] <Ultyma> wtf theres no crash mode in the new BO ?
[18:00] <[]> if there was a game that was only crash mode i'd only play it, and do nothing el
[18:00] <[]> Ultyma in burnout dominator, ya
[18:00] <Ultyma> :|
[18:00] <Decept404> turns out dominator wasnt even made by criterion
[18:00] <[]> prolly made by fascists commie nazis hellbent on destroying our way of life
[18:01] <[]> by subverting our children with crappy underwhelming games of flatulence
[18:01] <Decept404> EA UK
[18:01] <[]> so does the new burnout have crash mode?
[18:02] <Ultyma> yuhhuh
[18:02] <[]> apparently not... has 'showtime mode' instead
[18:04] <[]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ybat1DTJ4 <- GAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYG
[18:04] <sort> gey bat
[18:04] <aav_hlm> what, burnout the musical?
[18:04] <[]> i'll never buy another burnout until theres a proper crashmode again
[18:05] <Decept404> do people actually use the theme stuff for the 360?
[18:05] <[]> wtf showtime mode...might as well be a musical mode
[18:05] <[]> rolling the gaymobile down the road in some incredibly unlikely physics fluke wa
[18:06] <Decept404> wow that looks pretty bad
[18:07] <[]> why would anyone want to play that
[18:07] <[]> i'd rather play burnout revenge on ps2 than that POS
[18:07] <[]> much rather even
[18:08] <Ghaleon> Decept404: no need to theme stuff, too busy playin games
[18:08] <[]> he rolled it around a corner, down the block, and tried to turn it back around f
[18:08] <[]> yeah i've never tried the theme thing, couldnt really see doing it
[18:08] <[]> i might find a COD4 theme tho, its kinda the 'house game'
[18:08] <[]> but i'd have to be really, really, really super bored
[18:10] <Ghaleon> I just get the free ones
[18:10] <Ghaleon> apply one and never see it again
[18:25] <Decept404> worst thing about ea games right now
[18:25] <Decept404> ea trax
[19:16] <kaotrix> lol @burnout
[19:16] <kaotrix> I still play need for speed carbon
[19:21] <flashed> :O
[19:22] <flashed> you dont like burnout paradise?
[19:43] <kozmonaut> hrm, pirates of the burning sea is cool
[19:52] <Decept404> it is a well known fact that all pirates were flaming homos
[19:55] <kozmonaut> really decep?
[19:55] <kozmonaut> all pirates were gay?
[19:56] <flashed> not gay
[19:56] <flashed> homos
[19:57] <[Relic]> so Decept404 and kozmonaut would be great pirates? :)
[19:57] <kozmonaut> man fuck you guys
[19:59] <flashed> lol
[19:59] <[Relic]> and he even talked like one :)
[19:59] <Decept404> hahaha
[19:59] <Decept404> what the helL!
[19:59] <Decept404> i wasnt trying to be a jerk to him
[19:59] <[Relic]> I wasn't either it just comes naturally :)
[21:04] <factor> hey
[21:04] <PitDroid> niihau, factor
[21:08] <[Relic]> :)
[21:10] <Daveman> :)
[21:15] <Cryovat> :(
[21:19] <Decept404> :|
[21:23] <[]> hahaha @ kozmo emopart
[21:24] <[]> pirates and ninjas are bittar enemys
[21:32] * pingsweep is now known as CyrixLord
[21:32] * CyrixLord is now known as CyrixLLld
[21:32] * CyrixLLld is now known as CyrixLord
[21:42] <Ghaleon> CyrixBard
[22:08] <Cryovat> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4340/wtfcf0.png
[22:08] <Cryovat> Just got served this ad
[22:09] <Ghaleon> u got srvd
[22:09] <Ghaleon> lol
[22:10] <flashed> lol
[22:15] <factor> Ghaleonitus!
[22:15] <Ghaleon> factorius
[22:16] <factor> the caesar of slaq0ring
[22:16] <Ghaleon> :O
[22:16] <Ghaleon> more like the 300 guy
[22:16] <factor> lol
[22:16] <factor> leonitus
[22:16] <Ghaleon> yeah
[22:16] <factor> and yes I spelled his name wrong
[22:16] <Ghaleon> it speels weird
[22:17] <factor> lol
[22:17] <Cryovat> What would you do if your children were LOLing with Ghaleon? :o
[22:17] <factor> lol with them!
[22:17] <Ghaleon> at the moment u'd be taking them to tha doctar bcuz he is gots da cough
[22:17] <factor> haha, stop smokin up ghally!
[22:18] <Ghaleon> just lawl wid me, lawl wid me, all my homies in da kindergarten just lawl w
[22:18] <Ghaleon> Ghaleon does not smoxe
[22:18] <factor> gotta stop the sniffin da white powder
[22:19] <Cryovat> Haha :D
[22:19] <Ghaleon> I only sniff kittahs
[22:19] <factor> haha
[22:19] <factor> kittah made you sick then
[22:19] <Ghaleon> doubtz
[22:19] <Ghaleon> she stays inside all day
[22:19] <factor> bingo!
[22:19] <factor> she's a carrier
[22:20] <Ghaleon> a kittah karrier?
[22:20] <factor> a Ghal coughing carrier
[22:20] <factor> give kittah a bath
[22:21] <Ghaleon> she takes kittah baff daily
[22:21] <factor> haha
[22:21] <factor> licking herself clean doesn't count
[22:21] <Ghaleon> kittah jumpz in da showah ;)
[22:21] <factor> haha
[22:22] <factor> she likes water?
[22:22] <Ghaleon> she likes daddy Ghaleon
[22:22] <factor> hehe
[22:22] <Ghaleon> my other cat jumped on me in the bath sometimes
[22:22] <factor> you have 2 cats? thought you only had 1
[22:23] <Ghaleon> I had one before this one
[22:23] <Ghaleon> for a short time we had 2
[22:23] <factor> oh
[22:23] <factor> did you make them fight to the death?
[22:23] <Ghaleon> nah
[22:23] <Ghaleon> one had a heart attaq :/
[22:24] <factor> oh
[22:25] <factor> that sucky
[22:26] <Ghaleon> yeah ;/ got her creamated and she's in my office
[22:26] <factor> ahh
[22:26] <factor> is the new one the black one I've seen pics of?
[22:26] <Ghaleon> newp
[22:26] <factor> oh
[22:26] <Ghaleon> new one is all brown 'n black 'n stuff
[22:26] <factor> ahh
[22:26] <factor> when I move I'll have no more kittahs
[22:27] <Ghaleon> :(
[22:27] <factor> they are my room mate's
[22:27] <Ghaleon> "We need more kittahs...", "Harvest more furballs."
[22:27] <factor> lol
[22:45] <[]> ohh karate dog is almost done d/ling
[22:46] <Ghaleon> karate dog? downloading? in yer pants?
[22:47] <[]> i bet you'd know if it was up ur ass :P
[22:47] <[]> apparently theres much dog/cat racism in the movie
[22:47] <[]> specism even
[22:47] <[]> i think we all know where i stand on that particular dispute
[22:48] <[]> personally i think cats are alien spy devices
[22:48] <[]> sent here to feel us out before giant space kittahs come make us their space pet
[22:48] <greinwich> i trained my doberman to kill cattens on sight
[22:48] <Ghaleon> u haven't seen maine' coons yet, have you
[22:49] <[]> newp
[22:49] <Ghaleon> http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2006-05/riley-maine-coon-cat.jpg
[22:50] <[]> gdamn thats a lotta cat
[22:50] <Ghaleon> big puzzy
[22:50] <[]> an ex roomie of mine used to have some cats like that
[22:50] <[]> fking HUGE
[22:50] <[]> big fat ass garfield looking cats
[22:50] <Ghaleon> yeah but this one is proportionally huge
[22:51] <Ghaleon> unlike most that are just pilez of fatay
[22:53] <Ghaleon> maine coon would be interesting
[22:54] <Ghaleon> u could like... teach it to keel intruders
[22:55] <[]> lol
[22:55] <[]> or become sort of criminal mastermind
[22:55] <[]> commanding other kittah
[22:56] <Ghaleon> or wrastle smaller kittahs to steal their lunch monays
[22:57] <greinwich> cattens are mini lions
[22:58] <Ghaleon> http://www.toygerbreed.com/
[23:00] <[]> i wanna breed giant mantis's
[23:00] <[]> they make awesome pets, and can be trained to attacks
[23:01] <Ghaleon> I will train giant crabz
[23:01] <[]> not very effectively, but they'll attack to kill!
[23:01] <greinwich> shit i want a toyger
[23:01] <[]> eww crabs gross, bottom feeders
[23:01] <Ghaleon> just 14K for a toyger
[23:01] <[]> mantis's insist on eating their prey while its still alive
[23:01] <[]> now thats FRESH
[23:01] <Ghaleon> yesch but they have weakpointz for massif dmg
[23:02] <[]> the males do
[23:02] <[]> its called 'females'
[23:02] <[]> lol
[23:02] <[]> but even decapitated they keep on fucking lol
[23:02] <Ghaleon> I meant da crabz
[23:02] <Ghaleon> just like in ancient japanz
[23:02] <Ghaleon> lawls
[23:07] <[]> crab style is my favorite unarmed stance actually
[23:07] <[]> i am unaware of its weakpoints
[23:08] <Ghaleon> :X
[23:08] <Ghaleon> you don't see them, but a big arrow and some text points them out at the be
[23:08] <[]> ohhh
[23:08] <[]> i should look in a mirror more
[23:09] <[]> crab stance is seriously tough to get in on
[23:10] <[]> the only thing thats exposed is stuff thats potentially gonna strike you, or a h
[23:10] <[]> but even the back of the head is difficult to get in on, and very tough to get a
[23:10] <[]> you could maybe go for the forward knee
[23:11] <Ghaleon> s/forward/tiger
[23:12] <[]> lol
[23:12] <[]> TIGER! UPPERCUT!
[23:12] <[]> lol that had to be your fav char huh
[23:12] <[]> KITTAH! UPPERCLAW!
[23:12] <[]> zomg
[23:12] <[]> epic game idea
[23:13] <[]> you should do this Ghaleon this is your game
[23:13] <[]> Super PetFighter
[23:13] <[]> hmm
[23:13] <[]> something that doesnt sound so 'cock fight' tho
[23:13] <[]> ah n/m that sounds mean
[23:13] <[]> but some sorta pet street fighter
[23:13] <[]> petfighter sounds like that guy that made his dogs fight though, what a dick
[23:14] <[]> i could just see a cat/ryu vs dog/guile
[23:15] <[]> if it could be made in an unoffensive way i think it'd be a good ds game, for he
[23:15] <[]> so when you're not battling them, you could be feeding/walking/training them etc
[23:15] <[]> i know, you could call it... POKEMON lol n/m
[23:43] <kaotrix> http://www.pandorassecrets.com/f/1297/the-neighbors-daughters
Session Close: Fri Dec 28 00:00:00 2007