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Session Start: Sat Apr 14 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #gamedev
[02:00] * ethica is now known as ethicus
[04:13] <RUEbaiYaT> y0!
[06:11] * Kid-Mesh is now known as a_insomni
[09:35] <SANiK> Madsy:
[09:35] <SANiK> http://youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg
[09:35] <SANiK> In response to: <Madsy> Until I somehow after some years destroyed all
[09:35] <SANiK> <Madsy> And a chest pops up.
[09:35] <SANiK> <Madsy> HOW WERE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
[09:35] <SANiK> I love the part that goes, "you can just walk?"
[09:38] <Madsy> SANiK: Angry Videogame Nerd?
[09:38] <Madsy> Yeah, the turtles review owns.
[09:39] <Madsy> But I actually loved the TMNT game.
[09:55] <Dr_Rambo> "they are turtles for fuck's sake they can't even swim?"
[09:55] <Dr_Rambo> LMAO
[09:56] <SANiK> I want him to do the NES Rambo game
[09:57] <SANiK> I remember playing that as a kid and getting far
[09:57] <SANiK> Well I don
[09:57] <SANiK> Well I don't remember it being a bad game
[09:57] <Dr_Rambo> I don't even remember
[09:57] <Dr_Rambo> I barely remember first MGS
[10:08] <Ghaleon> http://bubbrubboftime.ytmnd.com/
[10:08] <Ghaleon> woooooo woooooooo
[10:09] <Thoys> :D that ones old :D
[10:10] <Ghaleon> wut eva
[10:10] <Ghaleon> u know wut I'm sayin
[10:11] <Ghaleon> the flasheds go woooooo
[10:12] <flashed> woooo wooo
[10:13] <Ghaleon> u know wut I'm sayin
[10:13] <flashed> amen!
[10:14] <flashed> :)
[10:18] <Ghaleon> wutz up 'n stuff
[10:18] <Saq> ur cholesterolz
[10:19] <Ghaleon> fo sho
[10:19] * Ghaleon eatz da cheerios
[10:31] * Saq pours crisco into ghaleon's milk
[10:31] <kermit`> Ghaleonx
[10:32] * Ghaleon feeds Saq his own creation
[10:37] * Saq ++
[10:38] <Ghaleon> ___Saq___
[10:40] <Saq> _______________GHALEON_________________
[10:40] <Ghaleon> no
[10:40] <Ghaleon> ghaleon
[10:40] <Ghaleon> smalls
[10:41] <Ghaleon> or maybe it's (((Saq)))
[10:41] <Ghaleon> aka round
[10:41] <Saq> saq is physically fit
[10:41] * Saq flexes his muscles
[10:42] <Ghaleon> s/muscles/flab
[10:42] <Saq> :'(
[10:42] <Ghaleon> }:]
[10:42] * Saq works out 5 days a week
[10:43] <Ghaleon> playing MK3 does not count as work out
[10:43] <Saq> :D
[10:43] <Saq> i'm trying to be able to dunk in bball
[10:43] <Ghaleon> I used to do dat
[10:43] <Saq> i can grab rim now
[10:43] <Saq> gettin closer
[10:43] <Ghaleon> sounds nasty
[10:43] <Saq> lol ew
[10:45] <Saq> do you still play?
[10:46] <Ghaleon> nah
[10:46] <Saq> :(
[10:46] <Ghaleon> this was like ancient history
[10:46] <Saq> rgr
[10:46] <Ghaleon> when I was gowin up, the neighbors had hoopz
[10:46] <Saq> :)
[10:47] <Ghaleon> it was kewl because I was bigger too
[10:47] <Ghaleon> so it was like Shaq Attaq
[10:47] <Saq> :)
[10:47] <Ghaleon> played street hockey too
[10:47] <Saq> cool
[10:47] <Ghaleon> man that was hilarious
[10:47] <Ghaleon> all the kids would try to check me
[10:47] <Saq> lol
[10:47] <Ghaleon> and they would fall over
[10:48] <Saq> brick wall
[10:48] <Ghaleon> yesch
[10:48] <Saq> reminds me of the dude i played bball with in grade school
[10:48] <Saq> i was like 100 lbs
[10:49] <Saq> he was like 250
[10:49] <Saq> biggest dude in the school
[10:49] <Saq> lol
[10:49] <Ghaleon> jebus
[10:49] <Saq> yeah
[10:49] <Ghaleon> I can't remember how much I squatted in HS
[10:49] <Saq> let's just say saq never won
[10:49] <Ghaleon> I think it was like 150
[10:50] <Saq> saq is a weakling
[10:50] <Ghaleon> until one day when Saq discovered steroidz
[10:50] <Saq> :P
[10:50] <Saq> we need a leg press at work
[10:50] <Saq> i hate doing squats
[10:51] <Ghaleon> we have a thing for it
[10:51] <Ghaleon> but I don't like doing it any more
[10:51] <Ghaleon> hurts my knees
[10:51] <Saq> i just do one legged dips off a chair
[10:52] <Saq> and one leg calf raises off a box
[10:53] <Ghaleon> one day the handle on the door at work was loose and didn't work
[10:53] <Saq> and a lot of jumping excercises
[10:53] <Ghaleon> it was then that I learned that I have iron grabz
[10:53] <Saq> ghaleon tore the door off the hinges
[10:53] <Saq> with his pinky
[10:53] <Ghaleon> I'm serial guyz
[10:53] <Ghaleon> ;)
[10:53] <Ghaleon> iunno how it came loose
[10:54] <Ghaleon> but the screws were coming off
[10:54] <Ghaleon> it's a handle style... doesn't rotate
[10:55] <ghib[2d]> bah. runs terribly in ie http://www.polymort.com/wip/bwidow/bwidow_tall.gi
[10:55] <Ghaleon> runs fine, last frames are lame
[10:55] <ghib[2d]> yup
[10:55] <ghib[2d]> don't know what happened there man
[10:55] <ghib[2d]> seemed to just blank out
[10:56] <Ghaleon> looks like it's dippin into the floor
[10:56] <ghib[2d]> yeah but it wasn't
[10:56] <Ghaleon> what'd you use to render?
[10:56] <ghib[2d]> MR
[10:56] <ghib[2d]> for maya
[10:57] <Ghaleon> is that like a plugin or the default?
[10:57] <Minion> definitely looks like the torso is falling through the ground plane
[10:57] <Minion> hmm
[10:57] <ghib[2d]> it comes as part of maya these days
[10:57] <ghib[2d]> hrm. i'll need to take a quick look
[10:57] <DebolazX> ghib[2d]: Heh, reminds me of one of my spiders.
[10:58] <Ghaleon> I've no real experience with rendering in maya, but yeah, looks like it's f
[10:58] <ghib[2d]> you own blakck widows?
[10:58] <Ghaleon> if it comes standard it should work :(
[10:58] <Minion> lol!
[10:58] <Minion> no man
[10:58] <ghib[2d]> hrm. i'll command line render the last few frames again
[10:58] <Minion> no
[10:59] <Minion> Just because it comes standard means it CAN work, not that it necessarily sh
[10:59] <ghib[2d]> yeh. i never said i was awesome :p
[10:59] <DebolazX> ghib[2d]: Nah, just a small funnelweb.
[10:59] <Ghaleon> maybe in slaqrville
[11:00] <Ghaleon> in Ghalbonia we make software that works
[11:00] <DebolazX> ghib[2d]: I'm getting a widow later though.
[11:00] <ghib[2d]> cool
[11:00] <DebolazX> Got a few tarantulas too.
[11:01] <Minion> do you put them in blenders and make smoothies? cause thats raunchy
[11:01] <DebolazX> They supposedly taste great. :-)
[11:01] <Ghaleon> they give you super powers
[11:01] <DebolazX> http://www.bighairyspiders.com/pix/cobalt1.jpg <- But these are expensi
[11:02] <Minion> looks like a freakin photoshopped smoothy to me
[11:02] <DebolazX> Nah. It's real.
[11:02] <ghib[2d]> that's one freaky looking thing
[11:02] <DebolazX> It's fucking strong too.
[11:02] <Minion> yeah, knowing its real doesn't make it look any less ridiculous though =P
[11:03] <DebolazX> It can easily pull a piece of paper straight out of your hand if you try t
[11:04] <Minion> yeah maybe, but will it blend? :(
[11:05] <DebolazX> It'll give you the fight of your life before you get it in the blender if
[11:05] <DebolazX> Thing is psychotic.
[11:05] <ghib[2d]> has it ever escaped?
[11:06] <DebolazX> Nah.
[11:06] <Minion> I panic easily, giving me the fright of my life is not a complicated task ;o
[11:06] <DebolazX> It prefers to stay in its burrow, even if I leave the tank open.
[11:07] <ghib[2d]> so what do you feed these things, small birds/rodents?
[11:07] <ghib[2d]> fingers?
[11:07] <Minion> dinosaurs
[11:07] <ghib[2d]> small children
[11:08] <ghib[2d]> neighbour hood puppies
[11:10] <Ghaleon> land sharks
[11:10] <aav> artists
[11:11] <aav> you can see it extracts nourishment from colors
[11:11] <aav> why does it have an All Seeing Eye on its back?
[11:11] <aav> creepy shit
[11:11] <Minion> TO CREEP YOU OUT WITH
[11:11] <ghib[2d]> to watch out for hawks
[11:13] <Ghaleon> to watch out for harvey birdman
[11:13] <Ghaleon> http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/13/capcom-announces-harvey-birdman-attorney-
[11:15] <MeshMan> o/
[11:15] <Ghaleon> Meshyo
[11:15] <Minion> Jesse Cook rocks ur face
[11:43] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[11:44] <Thoys> hey
[11:44] <MeshMan> hi
[11:45] <[Relic]> :)
[11:45] <Thoys> :))
[11:45] <Thoys> MeshMan your turn
[11:46] <Ghaleon> hewwo
[11:47] <MeshMan> o/
[12:22] <MeshMan> everywhere is so dead
[12:33] <SmilyOrg> agreed
[12:33] <MeshMan> lets start a party
[12:33] <MeshMan> between the two of us
[12:33] * aav crashes it
[12:33] <SmilyOrg> whoo
[12:33] <SmilyOrg> :(
[12:33] * SmilyOrg kicks aav out
[12:33] <MeshMan> boo =/
[12:33] <SmilyOrg> PAAARTEEHH
[12:34] * aav wrecks SmilyOrg's house
[12:34] <SmilyOrg> \o\
[12:34] <SmilyOrg> /o/
[12:34] <SmilyOrg> \o\
[12:34] <SmilyOrg> /o/
[12:34] <SmilyOrg> \o\
[12:34] * MeshMan awaits the kick
[12:34] <aav> depends how far this goes ;)
[12:34] <MeshMan> i meant the auto-kick hehe
[12:34] <aav> ah heh
[12:35] <SmilyOrg> :P
[12:38] * Ghaleon crashes teh party frum da baq
[12:38] <Ghaleon> aint no party like a Ghalbonia party cuz a Ghalbonia party don't stop
[12:39] <MeshMan> with the bang bang booty say up comes the looty from the ryhtem of the rhyt
[12:39] <SANiK> Artificial Intelligence sure is interesting
[12:40] <SANiK> Although I doubt it'll ever be solved
[12:40] <Ghaleon> DJ Jazzy Mesh
[12:50] * BlkStaff is now known as narris
[13:51] <MeshMan> bewm bewm bewm, i want you in my room
[13:51] <MeshMan> Ziggy Ziggy
[13:51] <Ziggy> mesh
[13:52] <MeshMan> Ziggy :D
[13:52] <Ziggy> :D
[13:52] <Ziggy> word up
[13:52] <MeshMan> like wtf y0
[13:52] <Ziggy> yoyo :D
[13:52] <MeshMan> got time for a voice?
[13:52] <Ziggy> sure
[13:52] <Ziggy> 5$
[13:52] <MeshMan> hehe
[13:53] <MeshMan> a Ziggy consultation
[13:53] <Ziggy> :)
[13:53] <Ziggy> googletalk? :)
[13:53] <Ultyma> lol
[13:53] <MeshMan> yup
[13:54] <SmilyOrg> Ziggy!
[13:54] <SmilyOrg> i don't know you really, i just like saying that :P
[13:55] <Thoys> Ziggy city
[14:16] <Ghaleon> Meshiggy-
[14:17] <Minion> This game is shit.
[14:17] <Ghaleon> wut eva
[14:17] <Ghaleon> IRC is the greatest game evar
[14:17] <Ghaleon> I've been playing it for like yearz and it nevar gets old
[14:18] <Ultyma> lol
[14:18] <Thoys> what genre is this game?
[14:18] <_Butcher_> social
[14:18] <_Butcher_> it's like the sims, but with more jackasses
[14:18] <Thoys> aye
[14:18] <Ghaleon> at least 2x in number
[14:19] <Thoys> lucky you dont get to see them like in the sims :D
[14:19] <Ghaleon> nah, this way we can't punch them in the face :(
[14:19] <Minion> you just opened yourself up to bash.org spam
[14:21] <Ghaleon> I'm already on bash.org
[14:21] <Ghaleon> http://bash.org/?2884
[14:21] <Ghaleon> cheq it, low quad digits
[14:22] <Thoys> lool
[14:23] <Minion> http://bash.org/?61129
[14:23] <Ultyma> sadly I'm not on bash
[14:23] <J-Rod> lol
[14:23] <J-Rod> nice one minion
[14:23] <goulie> meow
[14:24] <Ghaleon> kinda wordy
[14:24] <Ghaleon> hey goulie
[14:25] <J-Rod> maybe his parents burned him with a cigarette every time he used punctuation
[14:27] <goulie> whats up?
[14:28] <kaotrix> yo...
[14:28] <kaotrix> homosexual artist?
[14:28] * goulie is now known as GoulJusan
[14:28] <GoulJusan> =_='
[14:28] <Ghaleon> kao is turnin trix for money again
[14:28] <GoulJusan> yup
[14:29] <kaotrix> I'm in a non-joking mood right now.
[14:29] <MeshMan> wahahah
[14:29] <MeshMan> guys
[14:29] <kaotrix> Looking at porn as we speak.
[14:29] <GoulJusan> meshie!
[14:29] <MeshMan> check this out
[14:29] <Minion> J-Rod, he's from West Virginia and convinced himself at a young age that he
[14:29] <Ghaleon> you should look at de-porned porn
[14:29] <MeshMan> i cant beleive it works
[14:29] <MeshMan> go to maps.google.co.uk
[14:29] <GoulJusan> lol
[14:29] <MeshMan> click Get Directions
[14:29] <MeshMan> from: New York, New York
[14:29] <MeshMan> To: Paris, France
[14:29] <Ghaleon> wow
[14:29] <MeshMan> hit Get Directions
[14:29] <Ghaleon> datz old Meshy
[14:29] <Ghaleon> ;D
[14:29] <MeshMan> and check out line 23
[14:30] <MeshMan> ;D
[14:30] <SmilyOrg> did anyone get bluetooth to work with a communication between phone and pc
[14:30] <Ghaleon> never tried it
[14:30] <SmilyOrg> i'm going to kill somebody because of bluecove
[14:30] <SmilyOrg> it fucking doesn't work at all
[14:30] <Ghaleon> what's bluecove
[14:30] <Ghaleon> who's the phone from?
[14:31] <SmilyOrg> i fix one thing and 3 other things pop up
[14:31] <SmilyOrg> the communication from the phone isn't that hard with mobile processing
[14:31] <SmilyOrg> but i just can't get anything to work on here
[14:31] <SmilyOrg> lol
[14:31] <Ghaleon> some companies gimp their phones
[14:31] <SmilyOrg> bluecove is something for bluetooth with java methinks
[14:32] <SmilyOrg> nokia
[14:32] <SmilyOrg> the furthest i came with it was with C#
[14:32] <Ghaleon> direct from nokia?
[14:32] <SmilyOrg> i got it to connect, but i couldn't send/recieve anything
[14:32] <SmilyOrg> :(
[14:33] <Ghaleon> it might be slapped on with some proprietary download interface ;/
[14:33] <SmilyOrg> what do you mean?
[14:33] <Ghaleon> so you have to buy their software ;/
[14:33] <Ghaleon> should be able to check the nokia site under dev section and get info
[14:33] <SmilyOrg> nah, some other program with mprocessing that does tictactoe between two p
[14:34] <SmilyOrg> methinks
[14:34] <Ghaleon> maybe it uses magic
[14:34] <GoulJusan> ..
[14:34] <SmilyOrg> probably
[14:34] <Ghaleon> you'll need to see the head wizard then
[14:34] <Minion> magic comes in a lot of varieties man, is it witchcraft or voodoo?
[14:34] <Ghaleon> he can help you in unlocking the powers of the universe
[14:35] <GoulJusan> ther are loads of branches for magic
[14:35] <GoulJusan> i have a book of 5000 spells
[14:35] <Minion> yes, several, 2 at least
[14:35] <GoulJusan> lol
[14:36] <Ghaleon> sometimes 3
[14:36] <Minion> which 1 of those turned you gay? :(
[14:36] <Minion> actually I guess its more likely kao casted that one
[14:36] <GoulJusan> on himself?
[14:37] <Ghaleon> on his hand
[14:37] <Minion> reagent requirements: KY jelly, fleshlight
[14:38] <Ghaleon> causes burn damage if cast repeatedly in a short period of time
[14:39] <GoulJusan> lol
[14:39] <GoulJusan> and a life gerbil
[14:40] <Ultyma> wtf is a life gerbil
[14:40] <Ultyma> lol
[14:41] <Ghaleon> do NOT ask about the life gerbil
[14:41] <GoulJusan> live
[14:41] <GoulJusan> argh
[14:41] <Ultyma> lol
[14:41] <Minion> ultyma do you have any new screens of your mmo yet
[14:42] <GoulJusan> ultyma doing mmo? ooooooooooooooooo
[14:42] <Minion> i no rite
[14:42] <Minion> his screens are all old tho, I demand new ones
[14:43] <GoulJusan> show me@@
[14:43] <Minion> SHOW HIM
[14:43] * Kid-Mesh is now known as a_insomni
[14:44] <kaotrix> 42
[14:44] <Ghaleon> up to 42 times today allready?
[14:44] <Ghaleon> you still got time for another 21
[14:45] <GoulJusan> :)
[14:45] <Minion> seems like too much man, best go for moderation
[14:45] <Minion> Ghaleon doesn't know the meaning of self restraint
[14:45] <Minion> hes out of control
[14:46] * Ghaleon gone wild
[14:46] <GoulJusan> with whipped cream?
[14:47] <Ghaleon> double whipped cream
[14:47] <GoulJusan> http://totallyabsurd.com/gerbil_shirt2.GIF
[14:47] <Minion> readywhip
[14:47] <Minion> looks like a patent diagram
[14:48] <Minion> evidently it is!
[14:48] <Ghaleon> crazy
[14:48] <Ghaleon> looks like a party beer bong
[14:48] <GoulJusan> it's super weird lol
[14:48] <Minion> I'm a big fan of the helmet cannon myself
[14:49] <GoulJusan> lol
[14:49] <Minion> http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38370000/jpg/_38370881_helmet_150.jpg
[14:49] <Ghaleon> nyce
[14:51] <GoulJusan> hehe
[14:56] <MeshMan> man, my next job is so exciting
[14:56] <MeshMan> i finally get to leave home :d
[14:56] <MeshMan> :D
[14:57] <Minion> what job
[14:57] <aav> did you go to the tranny interview?
[14:57] <MeshMan> yes hehe
[14:57] <aav> how was that? :P
[14:58] <MeshMan> ive had 3 since them aav, and all offers :D
[14:58] <Ghaleon> he's gonna be out on tha corner
[14:58] <aav> nice :D
[14:58] <MeshMan> it was, freaky....
[14:58] <aav> hehe
[14:58] <MeshMan> the guy named "Elizabeth"
[14:58] <MeshMan> if noone told me he used to be a she, i would of never of told
[14:58] <aav> heh :D
[14:58] <MeshMan> and he/she was soooo lean and mean
[14:59] <Ghaleon> used to being whipped?
[15:05] <MeshMan> heheh
[15:05] <MeshMan> i wonder if she/he had the bits
[15:05] <MeshMan> in fact, no, i dont want to wonder
[15:05] * MeshMan shivvers
[15:06] <Ghaleon> both bits
[15:07] <Ghaleon> people to this day confuse us with da warezez
[15:08] <Ghaleon> we need to start having IRC certification training
[15:08] <Ghaleon> ;D
[15:08] <_Butcher_> mesh: i worked with a trnny before :p
[15:08] <Ghaleon> with/as ?
[15:08] <_Butcher_> just looked like a not particularly attractive woman :p
[15:08] <_Butcher_> used to be a man tho :o
[15:09] <MeshMan> where are you located Butch?
[15:09] <_Butcher_> liverpool
[15:09] <Ghaleon> in DaoC?
[15:10] * MeshMan rents with Butch
[15:10] <_Butcher_> not played daoc in some years
[15:10] <_Butcher_> I'm moving soon :p
[15:11] <Ghaleon> wells, I mean
[15:11] <Ghaleon> did you play a woman in DaoC?
[15:11] <kaotrix> Being a consultant for an online french design studio sucks ass
[15:11] <kaotrix> This guy doesn't make any sense at all.
[15:11] <_Butcher_> no I had a burly man as my char in daoc, why?
[15:11] <kaotrix> And wants a 50% advance payment of one of the jobs I'm sending him. Wtf
[15:12] <Ghaleon> oh
[15:12] <Ghaleon> just that whole men who play girls thang
[15:12] <Ghaleon> like all the slutz in WoW that will do stuff for you if you give them items
[15:13] <_Butcher_> :p
[15:14] <Ghaleon> but Butch plays a "butch" man, capable of weaving hats out of dragons via f
[15:15] <Ghaleon> Super Paper Mario is teh funnays
[15:17] <Ghaleon> you have time for games any more Butchy?
[15:18] <Ghaleon> what about da Meshy, still striking counters?
[15:19] <GoulJusan> hehe
[15:20] <MeshMan> im erm
[15:20] <MeshMan> too busy for gamage :(
[15:20] <_Butcher_> I play a bit of dod and some wow
[15:20] <Minion> I exclusively play dead or alive extreme beach volleyball
[15:21] <_Butcher_> mmm doaebv
[15:21] <_Butcher_> bouncy ;>
[15:28] * dvoid__ is now known as Dvoid
[15:36] <Ghaleon> jiggly
[15:36] <Ghaleon> Jay-Lo Jell-O Jigglers
[15:43] <GoulJusan> sooo tired
[15:45] <MeshMan> tiredness is for wussys
[15:48] <MeshMan> the whistle got wooooooooo
[15:49] <MeshMan> wooo woooooooo
[15:49] <microcosm> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=35685&in_page_id=3
[15:50] <microcosm> meshy ur from the uk. would it bother you if your girlfriend told you she
[15:51] <MeshMan> id convince her mine was good enough
[15:51] <MeshMan> but hmm
[15:51] <MeshMan> yes it would
[15:51] <MeshMan> thats kinda grosse
[15:51] <microcosm> lol
[15:52] <microcosm> do you code games anymore these days
[15:52] <MeshMan> eventually I will, but not in the next few months
[15:54] <MeshMan> XNA hasnt convined me yet thats its good enough for gamedev
[15:55] <microcosm> yeah xna is nice
[16:01] <pangloss> haha
[16:02] <pangloss> 'webinar' about dx10 vista and the like? Brought to you by HP? I don't get
[16:02] <microcosm> yeah 'webinar'. such an annoying word
[16:04] <microcosm> id like to see crossplatform xna on mono with transgaming cider/cegeda
[16:04] <microcosm> cedega
[16:04] <pangloss> i find it stupid that it's restricted to US residents.
[16:08] <pangloss> i guess ill just make up shit
[16:11] <pangloss> omg.. this is pathetic.. not a single game developer speaking at a game de
[16:12] <pangloss> i dont get it, what does someone from Autodesk know about dx10?
[16:13] <SmilyOrg> lol
[16:13] <pangloss> man, that chaps my ass.
[16:13] <pangloss> at gdc they had this 'creating next gen characters' seminar
[16:13] <pangloss> where they talked all about their new cloth tools and things.. nothing for
[16:14] <pangloss> then when asked they said: well.. these new features of 3D STUDIO MAX NINE
[16:14] <pangloss> haha
[16:14] <SmilyOrg> lol
[16:14] <pangloss> you guys really interested in dx10?
[16:15] <microcosm> lol
[16:15] <SmilyOrg> don't look at me, i'm just a feeble teenager
[16:15] <SmilyOrg> infact, i should reboot to avoid tomatoes
[16:15] <pangloss> because we could have a mini ircinar here
[16:15] <SmilyOrg> brb :)
[16:21] <microcosm> learning how to use mapzone. cool prog
[16:23] <microcosm> software tech increasingly making it easier for coders to do their own ar
[16:24] <microcosm> without having to rely on damned artists
[16:24] <microcosm> lols
[16:25] <pangloss> says who?
[16:27] <microcosm> progs like mapzone, bodypaint2, zbrush3, naturalmotion endorphin
[16:27] <pangloss> wtf you talkin about?
[16:27] <pangloss> hahaha
[16:28] <pangloss> you need artists to use those..
[16:28] <pangloss> zbrush? mudbox? bodypaint?
[16:28] <pangloss> they are art programs..
[16:28] <pangloss> so i dont follow :)
[16:31] <microcosm> my point is, these progs make it alot easier for a non-artistically incli
[16:31] <microcosm> more so than before
[16:31] <Minion> you're kiddin rigt
[16:31] <Minion> Mapzone yes
[16:32] <Minion> maybe even bodypaint...
[16:32] <Minion> but Zbrush is a digital sculpting/compositing tool
[16:32] <microcosm> zbrush lets you mold things like clay
[16:32] <pangloss> i strongly disagree
[16:32] <Minion> ...and?
[16:32] <microcosm> endorphin procedurally animates meshes
[16:33] <pangloss> i think they make it possible for non technically inclined artists to real
[16:33] <pangloss> not really.
[16:33] <pangloss> endorphin doesn't animate anything.
[16:34] <Minion> First off zbrush is much less like 'clay' than mudbox. And simply because it
[16:34] <pangloss> it applies physics to your animation, or plays animations based on physica
[16:34] <aav> yeah sculpting is damn hard
[16:34] <aav> you should see the clay mug i made in school, phew
[16:35] <pangloss> euphoria uses your animations as examples to drive character movement with
[16:35] <pangloss> but it's all animation driven.
[16:35] <pangloss> mocap would be a much better argument for your case :p
[16:36] <pangloss> so, who's interested in dx10 and next gen pc games?
[16:36] <pangloss> we can have an ircinar
[16:37] <pangloss> chatinar!
[16:37] <Minion> When you bust out a piece of coder art done by someone with little to no pri
[16:38] <microcosm> ? i've played with endorphin, you define actions like jump, run from poin
[16:39] <pangloss> how does it run from point a to b?
[16:40] <microcosm> my point wasn't 'any non-artist can make awesome art' but 'its increasi
[16:41] <pangloss> well yeah
[16:42] <pangloss> but when you say 'go from point a to b' in endorphin, it does this by usin
[16:42] <microcosm> nope
[16:42] <microcosm> you actually tell your char mesh to run from a to b, jump, etc and it pr
[16:44] <Minion> as far as I'm concerned its no different than it ever was. You understand th
[16:44] <Minion> Animation aside, mapzone for example doesn't do anything except automate red
[16:45] <Minion> Zbrush you can't do shit in without talent and even talented people struggle
[16:46] <pangloss> you are missing what i was saying.
[16:46] <Minion> but again zbrush is just automating manual tasks
[16:46] <Minion> its not any easier its just faster
[16:46] <pangloss> and endorphin is pretty useless for games, it isn't a runtime solution.
[16:47] <Minion> I don't see games mentioned anywhere in my responses
[16:48] <pangloss> but we're in a channel called gamedev
[16:49] <Minion> and?
[16:49] <Minion> I'm referencing art in general, it applies to both game dev and everything e
[16:50] <pangloss> yeah.
[16:50] <pangloss> but these tools to 'make it easier'..
[16:50] <pangloss> they don't make creating art easier.
[16:50] <pangloss> for programmers.
[16:51] <Minion> wha?
[16:52] <pangloss> running a physics simulation, instead of animating, or using scan data ins
[16:52] <pangloss> those are all datasets generated from real life or sims of real life
[16:53] <pangloss> not art
[16:55] <Minion> right I think you have a seriously distorted view on what art is
[16:56] <MeshMan> art is homosexuality, all the cool kids are doin git
[16:56] <pangloss> i wouldn't argue with that. some of the best artists that ever lived were
[16:56] <MeshMan> creative minds I guess....
[16:57] <microcosm> lol i don't know how this turned into a discussion of 'what is art'. but
[16:57] <MeshMan> yes! I agree!
[16:57] <microcosm> you guys are thinking too hard
[16:58] <aav> art is magic
[16:58] <MeshMan> art is when i put nuts in my poop
[16:58] <MeshMan> or is that design?
[16:58] <pangloss> the tools make it easier for everyone
[16:58] <aav> if you put your nuts in poop you should think of having surgery
[16:58] <pangloss> so, therefore, even programmers.
[16:58] <MeshMan> heheh
[16:58] <MeshMan> or eat less Snickers bars
[16:58] <aav> :P
[16:59] <Minion> and my point is that again, endorphin aside, nothing is different: mapzone d
[16:59] <MeshMan> aav
[17:00] <MeshMan> wanna see the company ive got an interview for next
[17:00] <aav> stop talking about endorphins, i keep thinking about drugs and shit
[17:00] * narris is now known as Narris
[17:00] <aav> MeshMan, sure
[17:00] <MeshMan> http://www.tracersystems.co.uk/
[17:00] <Ultyma> your mama
[17:01] <aav> ah that looks damn comprehensive
[17:01] <aav> business systems?
[17:01] <pangloss> omg
[17:01] <aav> "in general"
[17:01] <MeshMan> yeah
[17:01] <MeshMan> my kind of thing :)
[17:01] <pangloss> they are drowning under the sheer weight of their products
[17:01] <pangloss> reminds me of my company
[17:01] <MeshMan> this is 1 of 3 of their major products
[17:01] <MeshMan> based in C# / ASP .NET
[17:01] <pangloss> they append the first three letters of the company to everything, every to
[17:02] <Ultyma> IM IN YER AKKOUNT. SHARDING YOUR PERPELZ
[17:02] <MeshMan> they look like a good company to work for...paying very well
[17:03] <pangloss> you're in the uk?
[17:03] <MeshMan> yup
[17:03] <Smily> @aav> art is magic - i agree
[17:03] <pangloss> i never was really fond of the UK, but i have a newfound love for the UK n
[17:03] <aav> MeshMan, cool :)
[17:03] <aav> MeshMan, sounds good
[17:03] <MeshMan> another position on double what I currently earn :P
[17:03] <pangloss> living in germany, i can get english books, and dvds/games for this region
[17:03] <microcosm> minion: mapzone is a more specialized texture generator & its faster for
[17:05] <microcosm> i dont know why i have to explain the obviouz
[17:13] <Minion> learning a tool has jack shit to do with art
[17:13] <microcosm> don't think too hard guys, you might bust a braincell
[17:13] <microcosm> im talking about content generation
[17:14] <microcosm> so you're going to get subjective and lead this into a discussion on 'wha
[17:15] <Minion> No, I'm saying it is fucking irrelevant
[17:15] <Minion> the examples he cited are ridiculous
[17:15] <pangloss> we have an app that can take two uncalibrated photos, and make a normal ma
[17:15] <pangloss> this is data driven asset creation
[17:17] <Minion> Then maybe you should have included that as an example and not zbrush which
[17:18] <Minion> If your opinion is that mundane tasks are more easily automated, I'm in full
[17:19] <aav> right
[17:19] <aav> "someone who knows nothing about textures" won't make good art anyway
[17:24] <pangloss> guys
[17:24] <pangloss> this discussion is taking away from our dx10/nextgen chatinar
[17:25] <aav> watcha wanna chatinar about?
[17:28] <pangloss> i can be a speaker and answer any questions you guys have about dx10 or ne
[17:28] <Ultyma> im melting my 360 to my floor right now
[17:29] <pangloss> I would venture to say i am much more qualified than an autodesk or intel
[17:29] <microcosm> whether you suck at art or not, even if mundane tasks are more easily aut
[17:29] <pangloss> hey.. you're ruining the webinar :o
[17:29] <aav> microcosm, of course
[17:31] <pangloss> so no questions?
[17:31] <microcosm> i dont know what would make someone say 'learning a tool have jack shit t
[17:31] <microcosm> are u trolling minion?
[17:31] <microcosm> lol
[17:31] <microcosm> *has everything
[17:31] <microcosm> i hope so, cuz man!
[17:32] <aav> don't badmouth the Minion
[17:32] <aav> he's the robin to my batman
[17:32] <microcosm> heh
[17:33] <aav> and definitely an artist, much like Prince
[17:35] <pangloss> should i bring the chatinar to a close?
[17:37] <aav> i've no idea :P
[17:37] <aav> i haven't been able to work with dx10 yet
[17:37] <aav> but ive read a bit
[17:37] <aav> i dont have that many questions
[17:38] <pangloss> ok
[17:39] <pangloss> you guys just partook in a more qualified/advanced webinar than HP is offe
[17:43] <aav> did we?
[17:43] <aav> all i know is, i think at least one of us is high :P
[17:48] <microcosm> lol. im still trying to figure out why minion would downplay the sculptin
[17:49] <_Butcher_> cos zbrush sucks? :p
[17:49] <microcosm> noways zbrush rox
[17:50] <_Butcher_> nice idea poorly executed
[17:51] <microcosm> youre talking about zbrush 3?
[17:51] <microcosm> not 1/2
[17:53] <_Butcher_> dunno, didn't check the version
[17:54] <microcosm> well considering zbrush 3 is new or not even out yet, you're probably thi
[17:54] <microcosm> *ver
[17:55] <pangloss> aav: how am i high?
[17:55] <microcosm> 3 really is whole other level
[17:55] <microcosm> *is a
[17:56] <_Butcher_> it's not even out yet, but you're sure it's great... "ok"
[17:56] <pangloss> i would say ask me anything related to dx10 or nextgen games, but your cha
[17:56] <microcosm> i've played with the beta
[17:56] <_Butcher_> sdo what's so good about 3 vs 2 then?
[17:57] <_Butcher_> have they redesigned the interface so it's not lame yet? :p
[17:57] <ghib[2d]> pangloss
[17:57] <pangloss> ?
[17:58] <ghib[2d]> i remember you
[17:58] <ghib[2d]> you created an ingenious muscle rig?
[17:59] <microcosm> heh
[18:00] <aav> microcosm, Minion hates the UI of zbrush and also some technical aspects
[18:00] <aav> i can't remember all of it, but mudbox seems nicer
[18:00] <_Butcher_> that's because the zbrush ui was designed by a blind retard :p
[18:01] <pangloss> ::squint:: i dont think i have ever talked about where i work or what i do
[18:01] <ghib[2d]> zb3 really impressed me actually
[18:01] <microcosm> pang: mr crytek
[18:01] <microcosm> i see. haven't tried mudbox
[18:02] <ghib[2d]> julianne moore is old no?
[18:02] <pangloss> ¬.¬
[18:03] <pangloss> maybe i just have a bad memory.
[18:06] <microcosm> pang: you first came here conducting a polling of which game people knew
[18:06] <microcosm> *a poll
[18:07] <microcosm> by the way i see you've improved the explosions much. good job
[18:08] <pangloss> oooh
[18:08] <pangloss> i think i remember saying i didnt like the trees in oblivion
[18:08] <microcosm> yes.
[18:09] <pangloss> and someone said they rocked and i asked what games people thought had goo
[18:09] <pangloss> then said i guess i am spoiled, as i guess all my company does is trees, a
[18:10] <pangloss> i improved explosions?
[18:10] <Ghaleon> the trees have eyes
[18:10] <microcosm> you or whoever is responsible for them lol
[18:10] <microcosm> i saw a few screenshots with much better explosions
[18:13] <Ghaleon> in the Conceptual Art section?
[18:13] <Ghaleon> ;D
[18:13] <pangloss> huh?
[18:13] <microcosm> pang: i mentioned to you before that my #1 pet peeve in games was weak ex
[18:14] <Ghaleon> explosions in quake 2 made my eyes bleed
[18:14] <microcosm> you said they were working on improving them & that explosions had techni
[18:14] <pangloss> Ghaleon: I never trusted you.. I never should have taken you to see the wh
[18:14] <Ghaleon> :X
[18:14] * Ghaleon backstabs pangloss
[18:14] <aav> Ghaleon, they weren't explosions, they were mushrooms
[18:14] <pangloss> heh
[18:14] <Ghaleon> blehrooms
[18:14] <pangloss> yeah, i did the nuke in our tech vid, it'a actually not in crysis, that wa
[18:15] <microcosm> aww
[18:15] <aav> cool
[18:15] <pangloss> I said that at GDC so i can say it here, nothing new.
[18:16] <pangloss> I mean we have this tech, just not this explosion with these houses and th
[18:16] <aav> the sheer amount of artwork in Crysis scares me :P
[18:16] <Ghaleon> we had a cool test map in Eragon, too bad it didn't make it
[18:16] <ScratXP> sheer
[18:16] <pangloss> in the HD version you can see we didn't even take the time to smoothe the
[18:16] <Ghaleon> we called it the Danger Room
[18:17] <ScratXP> danger will robinson
[18:17] <Ghaleon> it threw mad warnings
[18:17] <aav> gotta say i didnt notice many flaws in those vids
[18:17] <pangloss> Ghaleon: you played Lunar right?
[18:17] <Ghaleon> yez
[18:17] <pangloss> ok
[18:17] <Ghaleon> if by play you mean lived
[18:17] <Ghaleon> freakin kids always ruinin my plans
[18:17] <pangloss> Ghaleon couldn't backstab.. why i was askin.
[18:17] <pangloss> :o
[18:17] <Ghaleon> oh he could
[18:18] <pangloss> heh..
[18:18] <pangloss> he was a mage/theif
[18:18] * Ghaleon leaves pangloss in a room with a giant undead dragon
[18:18] <Ghaleon> ^backstabbery
[18:18] <microcosm> pang: is the official release in june?
[18:18] <Smily> pangloss> Ghaleon: you played Lunar right - what?? nobody plays me .. yet
[18:19] <Ghaleon> @_@
[18:19] <FMJaguar> LUNAR
[18:19] <FMJaguar> WINS ALL
[18:19] * Ghaleon wins all Lunar
[18:19] <FMJaguar> except of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j_L1Cw5lkw
[18:19] <Ghaleon> take off every dragon crest
[18:19] <Ghaleon> for great justice
[18:19] <Smily> why are you talking about my last name? :/
[18:19] <Minion> zb3 is a mesh sculpting app in a digital compositing app ui. It is a phenome
[18:20] <Ghaleon> Smily: because we about to break into yer house
[18:20] <pangloss> zb has a horrible ui
[18:20] <Ghaleon> and we're talking in code
[18:20] <pangloss> it's the 'painter' of 3d
[18:21] <Smily> Ghaleon you don't have to break in
[18:21] <ScratXP> looks retarded
[18:21] <Smily> come in, i'll bring some cookies
[18:21] <Ghaleon> zbrush is also not so terrific for the DS
[18:21] <Ghaleon> ;D
[18:21] <Minion> nah =P
[18:21] <Smily> anyone want milk?
[18:21] <Minion> Milkshape is hot for the DS tho =p
[18:21] <FMJaguar> what about the DS is an issue
[18:21] <Minion> or well
[18:21] <Minion> maybe
[18:21] <Ghaleon> my milkshape brings all the boys to the yard and they're like, it's better
[18:21] <Minion> I guess what you can actually use hinges on the exporters availible
[18:22] <ghib[2d]> The trees in crysis are too realistic
[18:22] <Ghaleon> FMJaguar: u need ultra low poly
[18:22] <Minion> for sure, they need to stop makin realistic stuff
[18:22] <ghib[2d]> you REALLY notice when the LODS kick in
[18:22] <microcosm> oddly enough sucky ui's never scared people away. see: the blender craze
[18:22] <Ghaleon> yeah, wtf is that
[18:22] <FMJaguar> how bout maya, other than price
[18:23] <Ghaleon> I was trying to use that to just view some models
[18:23] <ghib[2d]> it's like. ooh realism.. i am drawn into this amazing world.. then BOOM wt
[18:23] <Ghaleon> and it was a pain
[18:23] <Ghaleon> it revered directories on every open
[18:23] <Ghaleon> = teh lame
[18:23] <Ghaleon> *reverted
[18:23] <ghib[2d]> microcosm, isn't the blender craze due to freeness
[18:23] <ghib[2d]> '?
[18:23] <Minion> Microcosm: you made the argument that the learning curve for photoshop was t
[18:23] <microcosm> blender's ui sucks so bad it should've outweighed the freeness
[18:24] <Minion> no way
[18:24] <Ghaleon> there's Maya PLE
[18:24] <ghib[2d]> hah
[18:24] <ghib[2d]> the freeness is a liberation. the UI is a nonsense
[18:24] <ghib[2d]> and a crippling feature
[18:24] <microcosm> minion: its obvious we're arguing about personal opinion. lets just agree
[18:24] <Ghaleon> I thought they were going to redo the UI a while back
[18:25] <Ghaleon> but apparently nobody wants to do it or smth
[18:25] <aav> i haven't seen a single DCC app that didn't confuse me to death
[18:25] <FMJaguar> Ghaleon, well i was more asking for an evaluation of how it compares in th
[18:25] <ghib[2d]> i regularly install blender, whenever there is an update. crash about for
[18:25] <microcosm> heh
[18:26] * Ghaleon confused by FMJaguar
[18:26] <Ghaleon> um... well
[18:26] <Ghaleon> on DS you get 2000 polys per frame
[18:26] <Ghaleon> MAX
[18:26] <Ghaleon> it has no bump maps or etc
[18:26] <[Relic]> no one ever uses etc anyway :)
[18:27] <Ghaleon> Nintendo uses etc all over the place
[18:27] <Ghaleon> even in Super Paper Mario
[18:27] <ghib[2d]> this channel is full of coders, or is it?
[18:27] <pangloss> whens the last time you saw crysis?
[18:27] <ghib[2d]> what is the difference between a coder and a programmer anyway?
[18:27] <pangloss> we fade LODs now, dither them
[18:27] <Ghaleon> ghib[2d]: I think there are more quiet bots than coders ;]
[18:27] <pangloss> there is no longer any popping.
[18:28] <aav> pangloss, ah, alpha tested?
[18:28] <Ghaleon> I read that as pooping
[18:28] <ghib[2d]> pangloss, i admit it was about 4 months ago i last saw a demonstration
[18:28] <Minion> its very similar to the difference between gangstas and thugs
[18:28] <ghib[2d]> so lods now blend smoothly?
[18:28] <ScratXP> you know
[18:28] <pangloss> heh
[18:28] <ScratXP> I think I am going to join a band
[18:28] <pangloss> well, it's no progressive mesh tech
[18:28] <ScratXP> because they make tons of money and they get to travel al ot
[18:29] <pangloss> ill say that.. as smooth as we possibly could
[18:29] <ScratXP> I guess I could be the singer since I can't play any instruments
[18:29] <ghib[2d]> pangloss, you've lost me
[18:29] <Ghaleon> ScratXP: they also get free STDs!
[18:29] <ghib[2d]> = does well
[18:30] <ghib[2d]> *wrong window
[18:30] <ScratXP> I just need to come up with a good stage name
[18:30] <ScratXP> Cannibal Face
[18:30] <Minion> haha
[18:30] <Minion> I like it
[18:30] <ghib[2d]> call yourself ,, 'The Shit Machine'
[18:30] <Ghaleon> u can sing emometal
[18:30] <Minion> Shit Magnets
[18:30] <Ghaleon> wut evar that is
[18:31] <ScratXP> Well I am Cannibal Face
[18:31] <ScratXP> now I just need a band
[18:31] <ScratXP> anyone here can play?
[18:31] <Smily> hrm pangloss you work at crytek?
[18:31] <ghib[2d]> what kindof music do you bastardise?
[18:31] <ScratXP> I don't know
[18:31] <Minion> I wasn't aware ability was a requirement, can you really sing?
[18:31] <ghib[2d]> I play the tombourine
[18:31] <ScratXP> we are just trying to make millions
[18:31] <ghib[2d]> and the kazoo
[18:31] <ScratXP> I'm the lead singer
[18:31] <Minion> A lute
[18:31] <ghib[2d]> I bet you suck
[18:32] <ghib[2d]> if you do. all the better
[18:32] <ScratXP> If Duran Duran can make money
[18:32] <ScratXP> I don't think I will have a problem
[18:32] <ScratXP> huhu
[18:32] <ScratXP> boy george made money too
[18:33] <ScratXP> now, how lovable can a lead singer named Cannibal Face be? very lovable
[18:33] <ScratXP> What should the band name be? We need something catchy that people will be
[18:33] * Ghaleon sends in the roadies
[18:33] <aav> Gamedevo
[18:33] <ScratXP> haha
[18:34] <Minion> ghib are you an artist
[18:34] <ghib[2d]> Minion, i am i guess, in a sense you could say, somewhat of an artist
[18:35] <ScratXP> well, let's see, the movie Titanic made a lot of mula and what other movie
[18:35] <ScratXP> will be a hit
[18:35] <ScratXP> Cannibal Face and Pulp Titanic
[18:35] <Minion> Good enough for me
[18:35] <ScratXP> now we need some songs, what kind of songs peopl elike to hear
[18:36] <aav> nextgen songs
[18:36] <FMJaguar> Hardcore C++ Rap
[18:36] <ScratXP> haha
[18:36] <[Relic]> Baywatch titanic!
[18:36] <Minion> all your fands would pirate it :(
[18:36] <Ghaleon> s/Hard/Nerd
[18:37] <Minion> fans.. too
[18:37] <[Relic]> no one drowns cause there's enough silicon to float everyone to safety
[18:37] <Ghaleon> MC Hawking will pwn u in Quake
[18:37] <FMJaguar> openGL vs DX gangsta battle
[18:37] <Minion> lawl
[18:37] <Minion> that'd be awesome
[18:37] <FMJaguar> riots backstage at quakecon
[18:37] <ScratXP> love songs
[18:38] <Ghaleon> "chattin up IRC bitchez"
[18:38] <ScratXP> She'll never know, what she meant to me. Whenever I was with her i was alw
[18:38] <ScratXP> now I don't know why, but she's gone awaaaayyy and I'll just have to stand
[18:38] <ScratXP> Your eyes, your smile make my little life worth while, there was nothing I
[18:38] <Minion> too long didn't read
[18:38] <ScratXP> I pull her hair, she'd know to stop
[18:38] <ScratXP> and she looked behind her, I'd always be there
[18:39] <Ghaleon> Frum Da Baq (A Love Seranade)
[18:39] <ghib[2d]> ok. i go away for 2 mins and you guys go all weird on me
[18:39] <ScratXP> like that
[18:40] <Ghaleon> I just want bang bang bang
[18:40] <Ghaleon> shiggidy bang bang bang
[18:40] <Minion> He was goin wierd before you left
[18:40] <ScratXP> huhu
[18:42] <microcosm> that's the only scrat i ever knew
[18:42] <ghib[2d]> bwee bada bada bo
[18:42] <ScratXP> We walked along and talked along
[18:42] <ScratXP> till we came to levelest ground
[18:42] <kaotrix> ScratXP
[18:42] <kaotrix> cool name
[18:43] * kaotrix is now known as ScratVist
[18:43] <ScratXP> Then I picked up a stick of wood and I knocked that boston bitch down, watc
[18:43] <Minion> contaminated
[18:43] <ScratVist> wtf
[18:43] <ghib[2d]> did*
[18:43] * ScratVist is now known as kaotrix
[18:43] <Ghaleon> "Reaching Level 60", and the sequel, "Breakin my way to 70"
[18:43] <kaotrix> Anyone here play any free MMORPG?
[18:43] <ScratXP> Well, I need to get my own songs
[18:44] <kaotrix> Ultyma?
[18:44] <ScratXP> these would just be covers
[18:44] <ScratXP> huhu
[18:44] <Minion> free mmos are devoid of real competition and thus suck
[18:45] <kaotrix> damn
[18:45] <kaotrix> it's Saturday night
[18:45] <Minion> it was sarcasm
[18:45] <kaotrix> and I'm lonely as fuck
[18:45] <kaotrix> I need someone to hold me.
[18:45] <Minion> get a webcam and talk about it then post your video on youtube
[18:45] <ScratXP> you writing a song kaotrix
[18:45] <Ghaleon> kaotrix is livin the song
[18:45] <Minion> deep stuff
[18:46] <kaotrix> lol @ Minion
[18:46] <kaotrix> well
[18:46] <kaotrix> I do have a girlfriend in this MMO I'm playing.
[18:46] <kaotrix> Wonder if she's on...
[18:46] <Ghaleon> s/on/a man
[18:46] <ghib[2d]> you should be wondering if shes a he
[18:46] <kaotrix> it doesn't matter
[18:46] <Minion> haha
[18:46] <kaotrix> because I love her
[18:46] <ghib[2d]> :D
[18:47] <ghib[2d]> aw bless your cotten socks
[18:47] <ghib[2d]> yeah man.
[18:47] <Minion> Yeah but grammar has rules and when the partipants gender is in question it
[18:47] <ghib[2d]> thers a party in your pants
[18:47] <Minion> and no one is there :(
[18:47] <ghib[2d]> haha
[18:48] <ghib[2d]> bless
[18:48] <Ghaleon> theres a kitty on the floor and I wanna touch it
[18:48] <aav> liq dat kitty
[18:48] * kaotrix detects a cat rapist
[18:48] <Minion> aav doesn't rape domesticated cats, only the wild ones
[18:49] * Ghaleon throws down with the hardcore kittah rap
[18:49] <kaotrix> not aav....
[18:49] <Minion> snow leopards for example
[18:49] <Minion> oh...
[18:50] <aav> catnip's the key
[18:51] <aav> i'll leave it at that
[18:51] <Minion> I tried that but I always end up the reciever and that's not how its suppose
[18:51] <Minion> you've clearly got something else to your strategy you're not telling me :(
[18:52] * NosTek988 is now known as NosTek
[18:52] <Ghaleon> peanut butter
[18:52] <Ghaleon> peanut butter jelly and a baseball bat
[18:53] <aav> Minion, knowing you, i can take a guess and say you applied it in the wrong pla
[18:54] <aav> but this is turning into a disturbathon, sorry
[18:54] <aav> hola flashed
[18:54] <flashed> hi :)
[18:54] <Smily> "Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice."
[18:55] <flashed> sup?
[18:55] <Smily> eheh :)
[18:55] <aav> sitting around, coding :P
[18:55] <aav> you?
[18:55] <flashed> eating
[18:55] <Smily> ohoh coding?
[18:55] <Smily> is it secret?
[18:55] <aav> actually i'm eating too
[18:55] <aav> yep secret
[18:55] <flashed> eating is fun..
[18:56] <Ghaleon> "Sitting around coding (why I <3 john carmack)"
[18:57] <FMJaguar> when's he gonna update his blog
[18:57] <Ghaleon> right after he liberates mars
[18:59] <aav> they're too busy setting up UAC headquarters
[19:23] <Ghaleon> http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/14/will-it-return-best-buy-refuses-to-excha
[19:23] <Ghaleon> huhu
[19:26] <Minion> I tripped and it fell into a blender
[19:28] <flashed> ahaha
[19:32] <ghib[2d]> Chuck Norris round house kicked the shit outta himself and there were no m
[19:36] <Ghaleon> impossible
[19:36] <Ghaleon> chuck norris would roundhouse kick his own roundhouse kick
[19:37] <Ghaleon> except that it would cause a large black hole and destroy everything but ch
[19:40] <flashed> and his rounded house kicked roundhouse kick
[19:40] <Ultyma> blargh
[19:40] <Ultyma> im gonna throw my 360 into my pool
[19:41] <flashed> why?
[19:41] <Ultyma> it keeps 3ROD
[19:41] <microcosm> water cooling?
[19:41] <flashed> 3ROD?
[19:41] <Ultyma> i just took it apart and put thermal paste on the cpu/gpu
[19:41] <Ultyma> to try and fix it
[19:41] <Ultyma> and it still dies
[19:41] <Ultyma> the 3 rings of doom
[19:41] <flashed> whats that?
[19:41] <Ghaleon> u suqr
[19:42] <Ghaleon> why'd u open it
[19:42] <Ultyma> the 3 front LED's flash red
[19:42] <Ultyma> because I modded it
[19:42] <Ghaleon> why not just returnz it?
[19:42] <flashed> autch :S
[19:42] <Ultyma> like 6 months ago
[19:42] <Ghaleon> aka supar suqr
[19:42] <Ultyma> ill just buy a new one
[19:42] <Ultyma> lol
[19:42] <Ghaleon> a new elite one?
[19:43] <Ultyma> yeah
[19:43] <Ultyma> maybe
[19:43] <Ghaleon> it's so k-rad
[19:43] <Ultyma> i need one that I can mod :D
[19:43] <Ghaleon> are you sure that sweet machine isn't going to waste?
[19:43] <Ultyma> ive got like 50 games
[19:43] <Ghaleon> of which you play 2?
[19:43] <Ultyma> ya
[19:43] <Ultyma> gears of war and nhl
[19:43] <Ultyma> lol
[19:43] <Ghaleon> national hooker league
[20:01] <microcosm> supz
[20:02] <microcosm> so no ps3 owners in here yet? not even 1?
[20:02] <microcosm> lol
[20:03] <ScratXP> I have a ps3
[20:03] <microcosm> sure u do
[20:03] <ScratXP> i do
[20:04] <ScratXP> do you?
[20:04] <microcosm> no
[20:04] <ScratXP> why not
[20:04] <microcosm> it suffers from 3d0 syndrome
[20:05] <ScratXP> what's that, too expensive?
[20:05] <ScratXP> isn't that neo geo syndrome
[20:05] <microcosm> too expensive + hasn't delivered on hype yet
[20:05] <microcosm> neo geo wasn't as hyped
[20:05] <ScratXP> thing is, it's a really good bluray player
[20:06] <ScratXP> and it's half the price
[20:06] <ScratXP> that's mainly why I got it
[20:06] <ScratXP> plus it also plays games so you get two goodies
[20:06] <ScratXP> not a big fan of xbox
[20:06] <ScratXP> it will have GTA4 and I don't buy many games anywya
[20:07] <ScratXP> II just have VF5 and resistance
[20:07] <ScratXP> right now
[20:10] <microcosm> not being racist, but historically the black console always comes last
[20:10] <microcosm> lold
[20:10] <microcosm> lols
[20:10] <Ultyma> lol
[20:10] <ScratXP> PS2 was first
[20:10] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:11] <ScratXP> there goes that theory
[20:11] <ScratXP> atari was black
[20:11] <ScratXP> gensis was black
[20:11] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:11] <Ultyma> game gear was black :D
[20:11] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:12] <microcosm> atari was black & wood colored. coleco was the jet black 1
[20:12] <microcosm> nes vs sega master
[20:12] <ScratXP> dreamcast wasn't black
[20:12] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:12] <ScratXP> ya
[20:12] <microcosm> snes vs genesis
[20:12] <microcosm> snes won
[20:12] <ScratXP> but gensis won at 16 bit
[20:12] <microcosm> naw snes
[20:12] <ScratXP> gensis
[20:12] <microcosm> snes had the perfect streetfighter 2 translation
[20:12] <microcosm> thats why it won
[20:12] <microcosm> oh and mario kart
[20:13] <Ultyma> which version of street fighter 2
[20:13] <Ultyma> there was like
[20:13] <Ultyma> 50
[20:13] <Ultyma> lol
[20:13] <microcosm> game gear lost to gameboy
[20:13] <microcosm> dreamcast didnt win squat
[20:13] <microcosm> the first version ulty
[20:14] <microcosm> ps2 was an anomaly
[20:14] <Ultyma> a glitch in the matrix
[20:14] <microcosm> n64 vs ps1
[20:14] <microcosm> ps1
[20:15] <ScratXP> even so, PS2 was black
[20:15] <ScratXP> and won
[20:15] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:15] <Ultyma> ehh.. it didnt really win
[20:15] <Ultyma> Xbox still pwns it
[20:15] <Ultyma> cause you can mod it to do anything
[20:15] <ScratXP> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28sixth_genera
[20:16] <ScratXP> Console Units Sold Date
[20:16] <ScratXP> PlayStation 2 115.36 million shipped[2] December 31, 2006
[20:16] <ScratXP> Xbox 24 million[3] May 10, 2006
[20:16] <microcosm> well ps2 & xbox were both black anyway
[20:16] <microcosm> no competition there
[20:17] <Ultyma> lol
[20:17] <Dr_Rambo> so who's winning right now
[20:17] <ScratXP> no
[20:17] <Dr_Rambo> XBOX360 or PS3
[20:17] <ScratXP> gamecube
[20:17] <Ultyma> 360 :|
[20:17] <ScratXP> and dreamcast were not white
[20:17] <ScratXP> er
[20:17] <microcosm> 360
[20:17] <ScratXP> black
[20:17] <Dr_Rambo> how many million
[20:17] <Ultyma> but the Wii is catching up
[20:17] <ScratXP> and they both lost
[20:17] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:17] <microcosm> dreamcast could've came out on top
[20:17] <microcosm> but they screwed up
[20:18] <ScratXP> Console Units Sold Date
[20:18] <ScratXP> PlayStation 2 115.36 million shipped[2] December 31, 2006
[20:18] <ScratXP> Xbox 24 million[3] May 10, 2006
[20:18] <microcosm> it had everything going for it
[20:18] <ScratXP> PlayStation 2 115.36 million shipped[2] December 31, 2006
[20:18] <ScratXP> Xbox 24 million[3] May 10, 2006
[20:18] <ScratXP> GameCube 21.52 million [4] September 30, 2006
[20:18] <ScratXP> Dreamcast 10.6 million [5] August 7, 2006
[20:18] <Ultyma> wtf
[20:18] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:18] <Ultyma> :D
[20:18] <ScratXP> they lost bigtime
[20:19] <ScratXP> PlayStation 2 115.36 million shipped[2] December 31, 2006
[20:19] <ScratXP> Xbox 24 million[3] May 10, 2006
[20:19] <ScratXP> GameCube 21.52 million [4] September 30, 2006
[20:19] <ScratXP> Dreamcast 10.6 million [5] August 7, 2006
[20:19] <ScratXP> fuck
[20:19] <Ultyma> lol
[20:19] <ScratXP> Console Units Sold Units Shipped
[20:19] <ScratXP> Xbox 360 9.5 million+[18] 10.4 Million (as of December 31, 2006)
[20:19] <ScratXP> Wii 6.2 million+[19][20][21][22][23]
[20:19] <ScratXP> N/A
[20:19] <ScratXP> PlayStation 3 2.8 million +[24][25]
[20:19] <ScratXP> 3 million [26][27][28]
[20:19] <ScratXP> still early in this war
[20:19] <microcosm> dreamcast had the decent lead & the best games and everything else going
[20:19] <microcosm> before hte war really began
[20:20] <Dr_Rambo> yeh
[20:20] <Dr_Rambo> it was sad
[20:20] <Dr_Rambo> Sega folded it after only 1 year into war
[20:20] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:20] <ScratXP> because everyone was pirating the games
[20:20] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:20] <Dr_Rambo> no wai
[20:20] <ScratXP> I knew 1 person with dreamcast
[20:20] <ScratXP> and he had a 10 foot tall cd stack of games, all pirated
[20:21] <ScratXP> well, maybe a foot tall
[20:21] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:21] <Dr_Rambo> a foot is how many meters?
[20:21] <ScratXP> 1/3 meter
[20:22] <Dr_Rambo> bah
[20:22] <Dr_Rambo> that's probably all the games that ever got produced for Dreamcast
[20:22] <Dr_Rambo> Dreamcast died because it lacks Developer support
[20:23] <Dr_Rambo> not from Sega, but not many developers was making games for it.
[20:23] <ScratXP> prolly cause everyone was pirating the games
[20:23] <ScratXP> I heard it was notoriously easy to pirate the games
[20:24] <Dr_Rambo> how
[20:24] <Dr_Rambo> I remember it used GD-ROM
[20:24] <Dr_Rambo> none standard DVD rom drive unit
[20:24] <ScratXP> ya, I think just put it in the computer and use easycd createor
[20:24] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:24] <Dr_Rambo> and back then... ppl don't have DVD
[20:24] <ScratXP> I dont know tho
[20:24] <Dr_Rambo> or DVD burner
[20:24] <ScratXP> CD burner
[20:24] <ScratXP> I don't know I didn't have the thing
[20:25] <ScratXP> just what I was told from the guy that had it
[20:26] <ScratXP> Sega's decision to implement a GD-ROM (though publicly advertised as a CD-R
[20:26] <ScratXP> according to wiki, it wasn't dvd
[20:26] <ScratXP> GD-ROM is the proprietary optical disc format used by the Sega Dreamcast. I
[20:26] <FMJaguar> everyone i know has a Dreamcast =P
[20:27] <ScratXP> they have pirated games?
[20:27] <FMJaguar> mixed
[20:27] <FMJaguar> depends on how long they had it
[20:27] <ScratXP> A normal CD-reader will not read beyond the first track because, according
[20:27] <Dr_Rambo> lol
[20:28] <FMJaguar> although many people who own the originals have a custom mix version
[20:28] <ScratXP> I think my friend just rented games and copied them
[20:28] <ScratXP> I didn't see one bought game at his place
[20:29] <FMJaguar> i don't know anyone that copied them
[20:29] <ScratXP> The most popular way to access data from GD-ROMs, however, is to use the Dr
[20:29] <FMJaguar> you need a coders cable
[20:29] <FMJaguar> yeah
[20:29] <FMJaguar> or some modified CD drive
[20:29] <ScratXP> broadband adapter
[20:29] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:29] <wkr4k4r> you just push the head past the end
[20:29] <wkr4k4r> and it sees the second toc
[20:29] <wkr4k4r> lol
[20:30] <FMJaguar> but anyway DC was great, but sega can't market crack in a crackhouse
[20:30] <ScratXP> looks simple to build a coders cable too
[20:30] <wkr4k4r> no way you need a firmware hack
[20:30] <ScratXP> http://www.consolevision.com/?Dreamcast:Development:Coder%27s_cable_%28seri
[20:30] <wkr4k4r> can just modify a cheap drive
[20:30] <Swish> hmm
[20:30] <Swish> that was actually a mis-ban I think
[20:31] <ScratXP> hahA
[20:31] <ht7z> ? :D
[20:31] <Swish> sorry about that
[20:31] <Swish> ban too broad!
[20:32] <ht7z> heh ;-)
[20:32] <ScratXP> banning because of the troll in #C?
[20:32] <ScratXP> huhu
[20:32] <Swish> yea just a 5 day ban
[20:32] <Swish> retard needs to go do something better with his life :)
[20:32] <ScratXP> he's a public toliet
[20:34] <microcosm> kimmoa? lol
[20:35] <microcosm> does that guy come around anymore
[20:35] <RUEbiaYaT> damn. http://85.21.79.5:9054 is the best big beat music I've heard so far
[20:40] <DrSproink> I suck at math. :(
[21:06] <microcosm> heh. mapzone is neat.
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[21:10] * Attempting to rejoin channel #gamedev
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[21:10] * Topic is '.:: Game Development ::. http://www.rockstargames.com/IV :: https://h30046.www3
[21:10] * Set by Dr_Rambo!Dr_Rambo@frost.d4.ru on Mon Apr 09 10:00:33
[21:19] <microcosm> wtf http://oemsoftware.in/index.php?target=desc&progid=6046
[21:20] <microcosm> that cant be a legal store
[21:20] <microcosm> http://oemsoftware.in/
[21:20] <microcosm> lol
[21:20] <ht7z> 3d studio $30 :)
[21:23] <Dr_Rambo> says "OEM"
[21:23] <Dr_Rambo> and it is in Indonesia.. what do you think? ;)
[21:23] <microcosm> lol
[21:25] <microcosm> they probably drain your cc too
[22:01] <kaotrix> greatest video ever
[22:01] <kaotrix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl6XDSo7Buk
[22:03] <Dr_Rambo> looks cool
[22:03] <Dr_Rambo> is that your mom?
[22:03] <Dr_Rambo> hr hr
[22:04] <Ultyma> you are a homo
[22:05] <Dr_Rambo> Ultyma's mama's boyz
[22:09] <Dr_Rambo> hey moe
[22:10] <Dr_Rambo> what was that youtube u posted last time LOL
[22:10] <Dr_Rambo> this is freaking incredible
[22:10] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysTQMJIma5E
[22:15] <microcosm> lols
[22:20] <kaotrix> look at Ultyma's mom : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZSguM-hIGk
[22:20] <Ultyma> http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs5/300W/i/2004/287/3/2/bbw_in_white_by_melandjo
[22:20] <Ultyma> kaotrix's mom
[22:21] <kaotrix> I'd hit it :)
[22:21] <kaotrix> who's that? your sister?
[22:21] <Ultyma> youd hit your mom?
[22:21] <Ultyma> gross.
[22:22] <kaotrix> s/your mom/my sister
[22:22] <Ultyma> youd hit your sister?
[22:22] <Ultyma> gross.
[22:22] <kaotrix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXoZHcWLoc
[22:22] <kaotrix> CUM
[22:22] <kaotrix> AS U R!!!
[22:23] <kaotrix> Big Fish Games rejected another one of my ideas so I got a little drunk.
[22:23] <kaotrix> So excuse me.
[22:23] <kaotrix> </bullshit poor excuse for my normal behavior>
[22:25] <kaotrix> wtf this guy is nervous
[22:44] <microcosm> you go around proposing game ideas to random game companies?
[22:44] <microcosm> no demo or anything?
[22:44] <microcosm> http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~inio/dk/
[22:46] <kaotrix> no I have a game done
[22:46] <kaotrix> I need to redo the art to give it more market value
[22:46] <microcosm> i like all the 8bit art coming out these days
[22:46] <Dr_Rambo> LMAO moe
[22:46] <Dr_Rambo> man, that's jus waste. So many Post-it note wasted
[22:46] <microcosm> lol
[22:47] <microcosm> kaotrix: gota site?
[22:47] <kaotrix> nah
[22:49] <microcosm> http://www.yikes.com/~pengo/images/Pixel_art/
Session Close: Sun Apr 15 00:00:00 2007