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Session Start: Sat Jan 27 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #gamedev
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[00:00] -bleeding_- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners, no
[01:12] * Unit41 is now known as Unition
[01:13] <Unition> in your face
[01:13] <violator_> NO U
[01:14] <Madsy^> violator_: No, you!
[01:14] <violator_> Madsy^: ORLY!
[01:14] <violator_> godamn customers.. I might have to work today
[01:15] <Madsy^> YARLY
[01:16] <violator_> RALLY
[01:20] <Nnorak> I was trying to find out what exactly XNA is and I found out that it's manag
[01:21] <Nnorak> I know a lot of developers create tools in C# but I didn't think there were
[01:22] <violator_> can't be worse than awt/swing
[01:24] <Nnorak> I learned manged DX a while back, didn't use it much. Now that I'm looking a
[01:24] <Nnorak> technology is constantly changing
[01:25] <Nnorak> I'm starting to feel old. I use to love new technology.
[01:26] <Nnorak> actually I still due, just don't have the time that I use to have to dedicat
[01:26] <Nnorak> due == do
[01:27] <violator_> I like fixed hardware like gba and such :)
[01:30] <Nnorak> would you happen to know if vs2005 express install ok along with vs2005 pro
[01:31] <Nnorak> err, vc# express I guess it's called actually
[01:35] * Unition is now known as Uniti
[01:36] <Interman> its fine afaik
[01:37] <Nnorak> k, thanks
[01:42] * senate- is now known as __senate-
[02:13] <dd93> ?
[03:05] * __senate- is now known as senate-
[03:07] <Rangar> Rivals Attack Vista As Illegal Under EU Rules
[03:07] <Rangar> A coalition of rivals charged on Friday that Microsoft's new Vista operating
[03:07] <Rangar> The group, which includes IBM, Nokia, Sun Microsystems, Adobe, Oracle and Re
[03:07] <Rangar> damn, some real heavyweights inthat lot
[03:08] <Madsy^> :D
[03:08] <Madsy^> Burn, Microsoft, BURN!
[03:52] * dvoid_ is away: up up and away
[04:24] <Dr_Rambo> Indy Game Review and Preview site
[04:24] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.bytten.com
[04:28] <violator_> Dr_Rambo: is that your site?
[04:28] <Dr_Rambo> no
[04:28] <Dr_Rambo> just a site I found.
[04:29] <violator_> sucks that the screenshots are so small
[04:29] <Dr_Rambo> yeh
[04:29] <Dr_Rambo> I know
[04:29] <Dr_Rambo> but it is got a lot of indy game for references
[04:32] <violator_> aha
[05:14] <Ziggy> :D
[05:14] <Ziggy> www.ziggyware.com << dont know who's site this is
[05:24] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[05:25] <Dr_Rambo> site looking good Ziggy
[05:26] <Ziggy> :D
[05:26] <Ziggy> thanks Dr :)
[05:27] <Ziggy> i like to think the content out weighs the uglyness :)
[05:27] <Ziggy> hehe
[05:27] <Dr_Rambo> it's good looking. Fun and wacky
[05:27] <Dr_Rambo> I like it
[05:27] <Ziggy> :D
[05:27] <Dr_Rambo> I didn't know you put so much news on it
[05:28] <Dr_Rambo> looks like a very good portal now
[05:28] <Ziggy> thanks :)
[05:28] <Ziggy> i work hard on it
[05:28] <Ziggy> i have more news than any other xna site
[05:30] <Ziggy> J-Rod
[05:30] <Ziggy> wake up
[05:30] <Ziggy> unless you dont want some cash
[05:30] <Ziggy> :P
[05:32] <Dr_Rambo> pass his cash to me
[05:32] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[05:32] <Ziggy> ;P
[05:33] <Ziggy> well he has all the fonts n stuff that i need
[05:33] <Dr_Rambo> I *promise* I will deliver to him
[05:33] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[05:33] <Ziggy> hehe
[05:34] <Dr_Rambo> man, everyone is XNA crazy
[05:34] <Dr_Rambo> how's XNA compar to Torque X
[05:35] <Dr_Mario> well, he isn't a newb y0
[05:41] <Dr_Rambo> So, zig, u still working on your engine?
[05:45] <Dr_Mario> Hows it going ziggy?
[05:48] <Ziggy> :D
[05:48] <Ziggy> Torque X is crap
[05:48] <Ziggy> sup merio :)
[05:49] <Ziggy> merio: i was sooo hung over yesterday that i got home from work and crashed o
[05:49] <Ziggy> woke up at 4 am
[05:49] <Ziggy> lol
[06:04] <Dr_Mario> lol
[06:04] <Dr_Mario> Damn!
[08:09] * Ghaleon8D is now known as Ghaleon
[08:10] * Slade- is now known as Slade
[08:50] <bewl> i'm feelin spunky
[08:51] <Ziggy> ;)
[08:52] <honkykong> morning
[08:52] <Ziggy> morning? I've been up since 4 am :)
[08:52] <Ziggy> hehe
[08:53] <bewl> you crazy man you
[08:53] <bewl> doing what?
[08:53] <Ziggy> working on my site
[08:53] <Ziggy> :D
[08:53] <bewl> hows that going for you?
[08:53] <Ziggy> like bling
[08:53] <bewl> werd
[08:53] <Ziggy> :D
[08:54] <bewl> you makin some dope 360 games?
[08:54] <Ziggy> workin on one :)
[08:54] <Ziggy> its super alpha beta tho
[08:55] <Squee-D> http://xna64.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/animator2d-ultra-pre-alpha-release/
[08:55] <Squee-D> ;)
[08:56] <Ziggy> lol
[08:56] <bewl> heh
[08:56] <Ziggy> did you read yer PM bewleo?
[08:57] <Squee-D> night all
[08:58] <ryan[WIN]> ziggy
[08:58] <ryan[WIN]> HOW R U
[08:58] <Ziggy> i are good
[08:58] <Ziggy> how be teh shippay
[09:01] <ryan[WIN]> gr8
[09:02] <Ziggy> gr8 2 hear :)
[09:05] <ryan[WIN]> i'm mostly using my powers of awesome on tracking down the ladies lately
[09:06] <bewl> I have already beaten that game
[09:06] <bewl> but in all honesty
[09:06] <bewl> when you win that game
[09:06] <bewl> the ending sucks
[09:07] <Slade> hey zig :)
[09:07] <bewl> seen slz
[09:07] <PitDroid> slz was last seen on IRC 4 days, 14 hours, 54 minutes and 15 seconds ago,
[09:07] <Ziggy> :D
[09:07] <bewl> wtf has he been?
[09:08] <Ziggy> having sex with 9 yr old girls in Atlanta i guess
[09:14] * Slade accuses Ziggy of projecting his own fantasies on others.
[09:16] <Ziggy> :D
[09:16] <Ziggy> naw some stuff was going on in atlanta that i saw on the news yesterday :)
[09:17] <Ziggy> child prostitution ring
[09:17] <Ziggy> headed by Eric Salerno
[09:17] <Ziggy> aka slz
[09:17] <Ziggy> hehe
[09:23] <bewl> Im contemplating going to work early today.
[09:23] <bewl> opinions?
[09:23] <Epoch`_> what do you do at work?
[09:24] <bewl> Computer repair
[09:25] <Epoch`_> meh, I dunno
[09:25] <bewl> yea
[09:25] <bewl> but
[09:25] <bewl> I am the 'manager'
[09:25] <bewl> so
[09:25] <Epoch`_> ah
[09:25] <bewl> The only thing that I wouldnt be looking foward to
[09:25] <bewl> is dealing with bitchy complainy customers
[09:26] <Epoch`_> well just bring in cookies and make everyone else deal with them
[09:26] <bewl> heh
[09:26] <bewl> you may be on to something
[09:30] * aav is now known as aavAway
[09:38] <mess> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cfxwN-IGk4
[10:04] <Ghaleon> that looks messy
[10:04] <flashed> yoh Ghaleonz
[10:05] <Ghaleon> wart up
[10:05] <Ghaleon> bewlitz
[10:06] <Ghaleon> just install spyware on da bitchy peoplez komputarz
[10:12] <bewl> hehe
[10:12] <bewl> that wuld be baaaad
[10:40] <GooRooPR7> yay i finally found where PR-BC is crashing.. hdr module
[10:41] <GooRooPR7> don't know why yet
[10:41] <flashed> :(
[10:41] <GooRooPR7> trying to eat pancakes with one hand, code, and type on irc is hard
[10:41] <flashed> :P
[10:41] <flashed> try that while driving..
[10:42] <GooRooPR7> I'd have to steer with my penis
[10:42] <Ghaleon> s/penis/tail
[10:42] <flashed> luckly your car will have short gears :P
[10:53] <honkykong> hey anyone know how i'd vary the blend of one texture stage by the alpha
[10:53] <honkykong> basically i got this env map i want applied in a less uniform way
[10:53] <honkykong> so i'm trying to use a grit texture to kinda vary it
[10:54] <wkr4k4r> in the pixel shader?
[10:56] <honkykong> no in the rendering pipeline, i've had no luck with pixel/vertex shaders
[10:56] <wkr4k4r> look at the operations
[10:57] <honkykong> yeah whole lot of that going on here man ;)
[10:57] <wkr4k4r> might as well do it in the shader, heh
[10:58] <honkykong> yeah maybe but i'm not really trying rewrite my renderer right now
[10:58] <wkr4k4r> OK
[10:59] <wkr4k4r> look at the alpha ops for your second texture
[10:59] <wkr4k4r> and perform a temp save in the alpha op of the first texture
[11:00] <honkykong> so texture 1, atm, arg1 and 2 are D3DTA_TEXTURE
[11:00] <honkykong> then texture 2, arg1 and 2 are D3DTA_CURRENT
[11:01] <honkykong> then for stage 2 i have D3DTSS_COLOROP = D3DTOP_BLENDTEXTUREALPHA
[11:01] <wkr4k4r> what about the alphaop?
[11:02] <wkr4k4r> they are executed after
[11:02] <wkr4k4r> colorop before
[11:02] <wkr4k4r> so you can save it there
[11:02] <wkr4k4r> and use it later
[11:03] <honkykong> hmm
[11:04] <honkykong> i've been trying all kinds of shit for the alphaop
[11:04] <honkykong> cause i dunno what to use
[11:04] <honkykong> atm its selectarg2
[11:04] <honkykong> for all stages
[11:04] <wkr4k4r> try to save the result in the alphaop
[11:04] <wkr4k4r> or of the first texture op
[11:04] <wkr4k4r> TEMP_SAVE
[11:04] <wkr4k4r> and use it again later as the arg
[11:04] <honkykong> k so for stage one use alphaop TEMP_SAVE?
[11:05] <wkr4k4r> nope
[11:05] <honkykong> use as the arg in stage 2?
[11:05] <wkr4k4r> read about what an alphaop is
[11:05] <wkr4k4r> heh
[11:05] <wkr4k4r> yea
[11:05] <wkr4k4r> use what you saved in stage2
[11:06] <honkykong> heres the kinda shit i started finding last time i tried to read up on ms
[11:06] <honkykong> compute the tangent vectors in the texture space and load them into the 1
[11:06] <honkykong> that takes the cake as the most indecypherable jibberish i've read lately
[11:08] <honkykong> i'm not making that up either, thats right out of the SDK sample code's c
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> that makes some sense
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> heh
[11:09] <honkykong> anyone else care to explain how to stencil one stage vs the alpha of the
[11:09] <honkykong> i'm not getting it, and if google was gonna save me it already would have
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> oh god
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> alphaop is the same as colorop
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> but it takes place after the texture read
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> thats all there is to it
[11:10] <honkykong> k then
[11:10] <honkykong> how hard was that ;)
[11:10] <wkr4k4r> its in the sdk docs ;)
[11:10] <honkykong> the useless sdk docs?
[11:10] <wkr4k4r> yea this crap is written like shit thats why its legacy now...
[11:10] <wkr4k4r> yea
[11:11] <honkykong> yeah i'm changing up to pixel/vertex shaders soon enough
[11:11] <honkykong> but i want low-tech options available for the not-uptodate crowd
[11:16] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[11:21] <honkykong> hi
[11:21] <[Relic]> :)
[11:54] <honkykong> W00T
[11:54] <honkykong> yay for victory
[12:24] <Ghaleon> lawl
[12:24] <Ghaleon> notebook ninja = hilariouz
[13:11] <honkykong> url?
[13:15] <Uniti> DEEE KAYYYYY
[13:15] <Uniti> is tha donkey kong
[13:16] <Uniti> honkey please you dont need to be browsin for no ninja box
[13:17] <Uniti> you probably dont even know what ninja stands for
[14:42] <wkr4k4r> are most of you here using a sprite to represent the weapon in a FPS?
[14:42] <wkr4k4r> i want to put them in control of the gun on the ship
[14:45] * directhex emp's all ships in the area. your controls would be useless.
[14:45] <wkr4k4r> what?
[14:46] <wkr4k4r> they can still steer the boat at the same time
[14:54] <JayC_Werk> lastspoke j-rod
[14:54] <JayC_Werk> hmm, that didn't work
[15:05] <Uniti> http://www.thronesofchaos.com/
[15:14] <Ghaleon> lawl
[15:14] <Ghaleon> spritez gunz
[15:14] <JayC_Werk> sprite gunz pwns u
[15:14] <JayC_Werk> party like it is 993
[15:14] <JayC_Werk> *1993
[15:14] <Ghaleon> 993 BC
[15:15] <Uniti> it still is 1993
[15:15] <Uniti> or ?
[15:15] <Uniti> did I miss something
[15:15] <Ghaleon> yez
[15:15] <Ghaleon> u missed like 14 years
[15:15] <JayC_Werk> they finally released unreal
[15:16] <Ghaleon> and then released it some more
[15:18] <JayC_Werk> I bet DN4E has sprite gunz
[15:18] <JayC_Werk> and sprite strippers
[15:18] <Ghaleon> newp
[15:18] <Ghaleon> it uses 4D rendering technology on evarythang
[15:27] <Ghaleon> 50K polys per boob
[15:28] <JayC_Werk> virtual ta-tas
[15:30] <Ghaleon> JayC_Jerkinit
[15:34] <Uniti> thats a bit fucking excessive
[15:34] <Ghaleon> DN4E knows their market
[15:34] <shea> realtime displacement boobs
[15:37] <mrchris> independent movement for each boob i assume
[15:38] <shea> yes 10 bones per boob
[15:39] <Uniti> and softbody physics
[15:39] <Interman> physx-accelerated boobs
[15:39] <Uniti> so when you pinch them they feal real
[15:39] <Interman> you know it makes sense
[15:40] <shea> a sphere-bounded fluid system with density connected to an IK solver on the bo
[15:40] <shea> worth it.
[15:41] <shea> it'd go platinum within 6 weeks even without a story, or even a game
[15:41] <shea> :|
[15:43] <mrchris> just call it BOOBS
[15:43] <mrchris> no way to lose
[15:44] <mrchris> you touch the boobs to unlock different boob styles: perky, pendulous, flop
[15:44] <mrchris> fake
[15:45] <shea> :(
[15:45] <shea> how about you control a jogger with huge boobs as she jogs through a park
[15:45] <shea> and depending on the jogging variables you set
[15:45] <shea> you attract more people
[15:45] <shea> goal: attract some # of people for each level
[15:45] <shea> ship it
[15:47] <Interman> nice
[16:03] <Ghaleon> Gamblerit-
[16:04] * Decept404 raves
[16:06] * Ghaleon loads up snip0r rifle
[16:06] <Squee-D> http://xna64.wordpress.com/2007/01/28/carpal-tunnel-logo/
[16:07] <Ghaleon> meh
[16:07] <Ghaleon> super amateur
[16:08] <Squee-D> bite me :)
[16:08] * Ghaleon releases the hounds, who bite
[16:08] <Squee-D> wasnt talking to them
[16:08] <Squee-D> ;)
[16:09] <Ghaleon> http://www.pixel-arts.org/pixelation/
[16:09] <Ghaleon> plz join and get pwnzd
[16:09] <Squee-D> why?
[16:09] <Ghaleon> bcuz it's a kewl site
[16:10] <Squee-D> no im wondering why you require me to get pwned
[16:10] <Ghaleon> ohj
[16:10] <Squee-D> hobbyist art, the first person shooter?
[16:10] <Ghaleon> bcuz gettin pwnd is the only way u'll learn
[16:10] <Squee-D> no, actively engaging in up skilling is the way
[16:11] <Ghaleon> better eat yer wheaties
[16:52] <honkykong> hey what are color/alpha arg0 valid ranges? does it vary by op or?
[17:21] * DebolazY is now known as DebolazX
[17:29] * aavAway is now known as aav
[19:17] * ddh- is now known as ddh
[20:42] <Squee-D> http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm reallly nice tutorial
[21:04] <Unit41> bleeding my ass
[21:05] <Unit41> its just a bot
[21:05] <Ghaleon> you meanz yer azz iz bleeding
[21:05] <Unit41> it dont know how to bleed
[21:06] <Unit41> maybe its a bleeding edge welcome bot
[21:06] <Unit41> ???
[21:07] <Unit41> oldy
[21:07] <Ghaleon> wtf u talkin aboot
[21:07] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[21:07] <Ghaleon> hey Rere
[21:07] <Unit41> talkin abot the bot hal
[21:07] <Ghaleon> da bleeding_ bawt
[21:08] <Ghaleon> but liek
[21:08] <Ghaleon> did it sez smthsmth?
[21:08] <Unit41> allways
[21:08] <Ghaleon> :O
[21:08] <Ghaleon> it r quiet for meh
[21:08] <Unit41> its allways grillin me
[21:08] <Unit41> tellin me to get a job and shit
[21:08] <Ghaleon> "YOU BETTA CHEQ YOSELF B4 U REQ YOSELF
[21:08] <Ghaleon> "
[21:08] <Ghaleon> yeh
[21:09] <[Relic]> :)
[21:09] <Ghaleon> how's the high polys, [Relic]?
[21:09] <[Relic]> http://www.esnips.com/web/Blends/ <- redid the fence (latest 2 pics)
[21:10] <Ghaleon> what'z dis new stuff 4?
[21:10] <[Relic]> little 9 city block temple complex :)
[21:11] <Squee-D> 404
[21:12] <Ghaleon> br
[21:12] <Ghaleon> brb
[21:12] <[Relic]> :)
[21:13] <Unit41> gonerea
[21:16] <[Relic]> hard part will be texturing everything in the end :)
[21:17] <Ghaleon> but that's yer fault for usin so many polys ;)
[21:17] <[Relic]> more poly more pretty :)
[21:17] <Ghaleon> mo polys mo problems
[21:19] <[Relic]> fun to ask people if they can spot the guy on t_wip_027 :)
[21:20] <Ghaleon> tha wutwut?
[21:20] <[Relic]> the 6' tall bright red guy in t_wip_027 ; that I put in to show scale :)
[21:21] <Ghaleon> I don't have the link any more ;[
[21:21] <[Relic]> http://www.esnips.com/web/Blends/
[21:21] <Madsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNwxv6TgsuU
[21:21] <Madsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-ckU_D1fg
[21:22] <Madsy> Old, but so hilarous ;-D
[21:22] <Ghaleon> [Relic]: I found waldo
[21:22] <Madsy> Mimimimimimi...
[21:22] <[Relic]> :)
[21:23] <Ghaleon> Madsy: snnn...snaap
[21:25] <dd93> I found a funny: http://www.ieaddons.com/default.aspx?cid=home&scid=0
[21:25] <dd93> may have to refresh a few times
[21:25] <Ghaleon> liar
[21:25] <dd93> did you even see it?
[21:26] <aav> you didn't explain which one to look for
[21:26] <dd93> "Now I can wish my grandkids happy birthday from 1.000 miles away"
[21:26] <aav> heh
[21:26] <dd93> the comma is faded out by the compression
[21:26] <Ghaleon> datz european phjewl
[21:27] <dd93> LOL "I want to share my family photos but only with people I know"
[21:27] <dd93> wtf lol
[21:27] <aav> erm
[21:27] <Ghaleon> yeh, dd93 = jokez frum 1993
[21:27] * kw pretends to rofl
[21:27] <kw> ROFL
[21:28] * Ghaleon kicks kw while he's down
[21:28] <dd93> anyone know how to factor arbitrary integer polynomials
[21:28] <dd93> ?
[21:28] <Ghaleon> yes I does
[21:28] <aav> the mildly funny part was that he's stoked about being able to do his grandfath
[21:28] <aav> not the comma
[21:28] <aav> :P
[21:28] * kw ROFLS at Ghaleon's failed kick
[21:28] <aav> hey kw
[21:28] * Ghaleon rolls a 999 for kick, = death by castration for kw
[21:28] <aav> and ghal naturally
[21:28] <kw> hi aav ;D
[21:29] <Ghaleon> aaveon
[21:29] <kw> heh, well.. I don't even bother about the comma
[21:29] <aav> 1000
[21:29] <aav> 1,000 is stewpid :P
[21:29] <kw> if you're gonna bother, try the 'miles' part
[21:29] <kw> I mean, ffs
[21:29] <kw> heh yeah
[21:29] <kw> I agree
[21:29] <Ghaleon> for fudge snackers
[21:29] <kw> 1000 is perfectly readable
[21:29] <kw> doesn't need . OR ,
[21:29] * Ghaleon sips his wine while taking over the world
[21:30] * kw wonders where his world went
[21:30] <aav> fudge is perfect with wine
[21:30] <kw> DAMMIT GHAL
[21:30] <dd93> There is literature on the web about factoring a polynomial over a finite fiel
[21:30] <Ghaleon> (1 + sqrt(z)) * (1 - sqrt(z))
[21:30] <aav> dd93, not to suggest you go away, but have you tried #math?
[21:31] <dd93> ja
[21:31] <dd93> I was kicked months ago for a silly joke and they forgot to unban me
[21:31] <aav> unf
[21:31] <Ghaleon> Madsy: dat second link is hawt
[21:31] <aav> there should be a rejects channel for each of those elitist twat ones
[21:31] * Ghaleon bans aav for starting an orgy
[21:31] <aav> like #math_
[21:31] <aav> and eventually overgrow and overtake the originals
[21:31] <Ghaleon> more like #maffs
[21:32] <aav> #numbres
[21:32] <Madsy> aav: Where all the spammers, idiots and trolls could idle?
[21:32] <aav> Madsy, for the ones that are interested enough to come back
[21:32] <aav> just suggesting #friendlymath or something :P
[21:33] <Madsy> #math isn't elitist. They just expect a well-defined question.
[21:33] <Ghaleon> #maffrejektz
[21:33] <kw> hah
[21:33] <aav> ok let me respecify
[21:33] <Madsy> As on #c and #c++ and any other programming channel as well.
[21:33] <aav> #math for non-autists
[21:33] <kw> Madsy - shame I'm permbanned without actually having BEEN THERE.
[21:33] <Ghaleon> #c++newbz
[21:33] <kw> but no, Im sure their bans are totally fair.
[21:33] <Madsy> People on #math have helped me with really basic issues several times.
[21:34] <Ghaleon> 1 + 1 = ....?
[21:34] <kw> someone on a similar host obviously offended someone in math
[21:34] <Ghaleon> need halp guyz!
[21:34] <bewl> 42
[21:34] <Madsy> kw: Me too. They've been having some spambot issues lately.
[21:34] <aav> Madsy, i didnt mean to target #math specifically
[21:34] <kw> so that gives them every right to permban me
[21:34] <Madsy> And added a *.no ban mask :)
[21:34] <aav> just asperger channels in general
[21:34] <kw> uh huh
[21:34] <kw> lately.
[21:34] <kw> this has been going for 2 years.
[21:34] <Ghaleon> bewlitz be flyin
[21:34] <Madsy> Perhaps not *.no, but a pretty strict nextgentel mask.
[21:34] * Ghaleon forces bewl to play craqdown
[21:35] <kw> [06:36:11] * Now talking in #math
[21:35] <kw> [06:36:12] * You were kicked by Pauli (...and don't come back.)
[21:35] <kw> [06:36:12] * Attempting to rejoin channel #math
[21:35] <kw> [06:36:13] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
[21:35] * bewl doesnt have an xbox :(
[21:35] <kw> yeah, there's justice.
[21:35] <Ghaleon> :O!
[21:35] * Ghaleon sends bewl to store
[21:35] <Madsy> kw: Yes, if you have ops, you can permban anyone. Tough luck.
[21:35] <bewl> Can i have some moolahz?
[21:35] * DebolazX plays wicked games with perl
[21:35] <kw> yeah, so don't say they're not elitist
[21:35] * Ghaleon gives bewl $0.25
[21:36] <aav> kw, i guess they weighed their losses in potential visitors from your isp :P
[21:36] <kw> [06:34:10] <Madsy> #math isn't elitist. They just expect a well-defined qu
[21:36] <kw> I never even got around to asking one
[21:36] <Madsy> kw: Have you even talked to an oper?
[21:36] <kw> yes
[21:36] <kw> they told me to fuck off
[21:36] <bewl> :X
[21:36] <kw> never even heard a goddamn word I was saying
[21:36] <kw> just "fuck off"
[21:38] <kw> no, actually.. they also said "im gonna put you on ignore now" when I still talk
[21:38] <bewl> they sensed your bad aura
[21:38] <[Relic]> :)
[21:38] <kw> yeah ;)
[21:38] <DebolazX> I think most people would agree that #math is very elitist.
[21:38] <kw> well yeah
[21:38] <Madsy> Fine, should we start #math2 then? ;)
[21:38] <DebolazX> Madsy: There's another channel.
[21:39] <DebolazX> +already
[21:39] <bewl> #math-wewontsuk
[21:39] <kw> given my experience, I can't imagine anyone saying #math ISNT elitist
[21:39] <aav> #approximations
[21:39] <kw> haha
[21:39] <kw> #maths
[21:40] <DebolazX> #m-a-t-h actually.
[21:41] <kw> seriously
[21:41] <kw> I feel like beating up some of the ops in #math, and talking some sense into the
[21:41] <kw> but as it is, Im permbanned for god knows what reason before I ever joined.
[21:41] <Madsy> Or just go to #math on freenode :-)
[21:41] <kw> yeah, I suppose
[21:42] <aav> everyone seems to go to freenode these days
[21:42] <kw> yeah, it's a fairly useful network
[21:42] <aav> come to think of it.. why aren't we already there?
[21:42] <kw> but not as general as efnet
[21:42] * DebolazX is on #gamedev @ freenode
[21:42] <aav> DebolazX, what's it like on the other side?
[21:42] <aav> any greener?
[21:42] <DebolazX> aav: Roughly 3 times more users.
[21:43] <aav> shit
[21:43] <DebolazX> Just kidding. :-P
[21:43] <aav> aw
[21:43] <aav> :P
[21:43] <kw> hehe
[21:43] <kw> twice as many users here
[21:43] * DebolazX notes kw had to check. :-)
[21:43] <kw> course
[21:43] <kw> how else was I supposed to know?
[21:43] <kw> :-/
[21:44] <kw> 29 users on freenode/#gamedev
[21:44] * DebolazX should actually try making a game one of these days.
[21:44] <Ghaleon> more like slaqnode
[21:44] <aav> or maybe we should start becoming more elitist ;)
[21:44] <kw> hehe
[21:44] <Ghaleon> yeah
[21:44] <Madsy> aav: Difficult. We got ziggy, mesh and Ghaleon
[21:44] <kw> yeah, let's start banning people randomly without reason, like #math
[21:44] <Ghaleon> I should start banning everyone who doesn't make a game
[21:44] <DebolazX> I'll make this huge and spectacular mmorpg.
[21:45] <Madsy> kw: It isn't random. Jeez.
[21:45] <aav> Ghaleon, you're like the Ocean of DS though :P
[21:45] <kw> it's not?
[21:45] <kw> how so?
[21:45] <Unit41> i feel like a shit staijn
[21:45] <Madsy> It's based on one or several hostmasks.
[21:45] <DebolazX> kw: What he means is that there's no such thing as a truly random process.
[21:45] <Ghaleon> I am one wif da DS
[21:45] <kw> uh huh
[21:45] <aav> Ghaleon, not in terms of quality but in terms of licenses :P
[21:45] <Unit41> maybe I should sleep it off or sth
[21:45] <DebolazX> kw: According to determinism.
[21:45] <kw> which time when I wasn't in there was the time I offended them?
[21:45] <Ghaleon> aav: DS stands for Double Slaq, right?
[21:45] <Ghaleon> ;D
[21:46] <aav> thats right :)
[21:46] <aav> the GBA was enough to slaq with
[21:46] <Ghaleon> my teammates had to go in this weekend
[21:46] <kw> was it the time I wasn't even there, or the other time I wasn't even there?
[21:46] <Ghaleon> but not the Ghaleon
[21:46] <aav> ouch
[21:46] <Madsy> kw: Sometimes a user gets so annoying that ops on a channel set a very "gener
[21:46] <aav> they didnt need you?
[21:46] <Ghaleon> milestone monday approaches
[21:46] <Ghaleon> I finished my stuff early
[21:46] <aav> ah :D
[21:46] <Ghaleon> I've been asking for more tasks all week
[21:46] <kw> Madsy - yes, and it hurts everyone using even remotely the same host
[21:46] <Madsy> It will of course also ban/kick legit users, unfortunatelt.
[21:46] <kw> great.
[21:46] <Madsy> -t+y
[21:46] <aav> Ghaleon, haha damn
[21:46] <aav> Ghaleon, come work for us ;)
[21:47] <Ghaleon> ;]
[21:47] <Madsy> That's just how life is. That doesn't mean they are evil or anything.
[21:47] <Ghaleon> the first week I was there I got a call for another job
[21:47] <kw> and the elitism comes in when people message the ops about it, and they say 'fuc
[21:47] <Madsy> I've done the same thing myself, on Quakenet.
[21:47] <Ghaleon> $50K/yr work at home
[21:47] <Ghaleon> on piddly 2D games for PC
[21:47] <DebolazX> kw: Remember, this is what people are really like, they just don't show it
[21:48] <kw> yeah, sadly
[21:48] <aav> :)
[21:48] <kw> there's not much I can do this way
[21:48] <aav> ya no reason to get worked up
[21:48] <Ghaleon> I wish I could remember the name of the company that tried to hire me......
[21:48] <kw> they're just like "sorry, a guy with the same haircut as you caused troubled her
[21:49] <Madsy> kw: Yes, that's the way it is. Not quit whining about it.
[21:49] <Madsy> now*
[21:49] <Madsy> There are other more important things in life :-)
[21:49] <Ghaleon> kw: yeah, I kind of feel that way about a certain .fr
[21:49] <Madsy> Like boobies and game developement.
[21:50] <Ghaleon> they all seem to want to downloads teh juarezez
[21:50] <kw> that's ridiculously easy to say when you're not the one permbanned before joinin
[21:50] <Madsy> Oh, I am. Believe me.
[21:50] <kw> you're permbanned?
[21:50] <Madsy> Since last summer, I've been on #math on freenode instead.
[21:50] <Madsy> Get banned everytime I join.
[21:50] <dd93> omg I remember what my sill joke was, I said in #math, "wtf are you talking ab
[21:50] <kw> and still you claim they're not elitist?
[21:50] <Madsy> yes
[21:51] <kw> what a load of crap :-/
[21:51] <kw> dd93 - well, that deserves a permban.. nobody appreciates someone with his own o
[21:51] <kw> ESPECIALLY not #math.
[21:52] <Madsy> dd93: You should have read the rules, or used some common sense.
[21:52] * Ghaleon spreads koolaide glasses
[21:52] * kw sits in a corner and whines more
[21:52] <Madsy> Pretty off-topic imho.
[21:52] <dd93> that's what the topic was
[21:52] <Madsy> If you just wrote that off the cuff.
[21:52] <dd93> the movie
[21:54] <dd93> the Davinci Code licked balls and its trailer was enticing, Children of Men ki
[21:54] <aav> Ghaleon, ah :)
[21:54] <aav> heh
[21:54] <dd93> I relate the two latter movies since they were both in post-apocalyptic Englan
[21:54] <aav> hm i just avoid trailers for the most part
[21:54] <aav> they tend to give away too much :/
[21:54] <aav> imdb and word of mouth suffices
[21:54] <PitDroid> and word of mouth suffices can be found at http://www.imdb.com/M/title-su
[21:55] <aav> er
[21:56] <Madsy> V for Vendetta sucked even worse than the Davinci code.
[21:56] <dd93> I'd have to watch them both again
[21:56] <Ghaleon> :O
[21:56] <Ghaleon> wut
[21:56] <Ghaleon> V waz hawt
[21:56] <kw> v for vendetta was cool
[21:56] <kw> aye
[21:56] <kw> I like that
[21:56] <kw> *liked
[21:56] <Ghaleon> so full of rage against da machinez
[21:56] <dd93> matrix was (V + 1)*10^100
[21:57] <kw> I agree with aav tho, trailers kinda annoy me often
[21:57] <kw> they tend to give away all the best parts of the movie
[21:57] <Ghaleon> expecially for comedies
[21:57] <kw> hah yeah
[21:57] <Madsy> The last two great movies I saw, was Running Scared and The Departed.
[21:57] <kw> they just show all the climaxes
[21:57] <Ghaleon> muthar fawking comedies that only have 3 or so good lines
[21:57] <Madsy> I'm pretty excited about the upcoming movie Grindhouse.
[21:57] <dd93> you know that scorcese directed Children of Men?
[21:58] <dd93> holy crap, he's the greatest man alive
[21:58] <dd93> the departed ... OMG
[21:58] <kw> Im told the departed was good, but haven't seen it yet
[21:59] <dd93> wtf u asshole go c it
[21:59] <kw> haha
[21:59] <kw> I have things to do
[21:59] <dd93> it was re-opened in the theatres in the states again
[21:59] <kw> I don't live in the states :P
[21:59] <dd93> that or its still out from last year
[21:59] <dd93> it's equal to the god father I think
[22:00] <dd93> but better since its new
[22:00] <aav> The Prestige, decent
[22:00] <aav> fwiw
[22:01] <dd93> at every point in the story you're wondering what could happen then in the nex
[22:01] <aav> wasnt that a remake of a hong kong movie?
[22:02] <aav> http://imdb.com/title/tt0407887/fullcredits#writers
[22:02] <dd93> you're write, well those guys must be the next scorceses
[22:03] <aav> :)
[22:03] <Ghaleon> KUNG FU HUSSLE
[22:04] <Ghaleon> every day I'm husslin, ever-every day I'm hussle-husslin
[22:11] * Slade gets Kung Fu TV :P
[22:34] <dd93> are polynomials over Z differentiable functions of C?
[22:35] <dd93> not of C, but from C to R
[22:35] <dd93> nvm
Session Close: Sun Jan 28 00:00:00 2007