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Session Start: Wed Jan 24 00:00:00 2007
Session Ident: #gamedev
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[00:00] -bleeding_- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners, no
[00:02] * Debolaz installs haskell.
[00:10] * jonas___ is now known as kermit`
[00:15] <Squee-D> there IS a crackdown demo
[00:15] <Squee-D> 1.3gig
[00:20] <Squee-D> 'nother question for you guys coz i love knowledge here, seriously.. should
[00:21] <Squee-D> originally i was using perspective projection which looked quite nice, but
[01:00] <Dr_Rambo> RTH?
[01:00] <Dr_Rambo> what's RTH
[01:01] <Squee-D> orth*
[01:01] <Squee-D> typo
[01:01] <Squee-D> orthographic
[01:01] <Dr_Rambo> oh
[01:01] <Dr_Rambo> ortho looks too square
[01:01] <Dr_Rambo> too.. flat
[01:03] <Squee-D> side scroller tho
[01:04] <Squee-D> see if the ship is on the left of the screen you can see more of it's front
[01:05] <Squee-D> so it kinda makes you think its moving across the face of a curved fishbowl
[01:05] <Squee-D> i dunno, i like it, but its also mildly disturbing
[01:05] <Squee-D> if you have XNA GSE installed you can take a look at what i mean
[01:05] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[01:05] <Dr_Rambo> would love to see a screenshot of it
[01:05] <aav> you could move the center of projection more to the right maybe?
[01:05] <aav> hm
[01:06] <Squee-D> i could, is there an easy way to calculate a asymetrical frustrum?
[01:06] <aav> D3DXMatrixPerspectiveOffCenterLH
[01:07] <aav> there's probably something in XNA
[01:07] <Squee-D> I'll see if xna gots
[01:07] <Squee-D> http://xna64.wordpress.com/
[01:07] <Squee-D> theres a screeny rambo, not real obvious in that shot
[01:07] <Squee-D> my ship sux too, but got an artist doing something about that :)
[01:10] <Squee-D> aav yup it sure does, tnz
[01:10] <Squee-D> tnx
[01:17] <aav> cool
[01:24] <Squee-D> going to bed before i hurt myself :P See you all
[01:26] <aav> cya :) looks promising
[01:42] * senate- is now known as __senate-
[02:43] <Rangar> hahahahaha
[02:43] <Rangar> the Register reporting that Blu-ray copy-protection technology has been side
[02:44] <Rangar> byebye millions of $ in protection research
[02:44] <swx> I read that he just extracted the keys from a couple of movies?
[02:45] <swx> and implemented the decryption algorithm from public specs
[02:45] <Debolaz> Rangar: The purpose of DRM isn't so much to prevent piracy, but to limit th
[02:45] <swx> some player that kept the keys in memory
[02:45] <Rangar> lol
[02:45] <Debolaz> Which in term means more money.
[02:53] <Madsy> Someone should be fired :-D
[02:54] <Madsy> Debolaz: Almost true.
[02:54] <Madsy> It does indeed fail to stop its targeted group.
[02:54] <Madsy> While legitimate consumers have to pay the inconvenience.
[02:55] <Madsy> What I hate the most though, is the commercials and notes on DVDs which you c
[02:56] <swx> dont DVDs released by american companies ;)
[02:56] <swx> +buy
[02:57] <Debolaz> I do not think that the execs are so stupid they honestly believe that pira
[02:57] <swx> I usually buy UK releases of most movies :)
[02:57] <Debolaz> There are tons of adventages to DRM from an execs perspective, preventing p
[04:09] <minam> where is my zhivago?
[05:16] <Dr_Rambo> ebolaz
[05:16] <DebolazX> Dr_Bimbo: Perchance you left out a letter there?
[05:16] <Dr_Rambo> Bebolaz?
[05:16] <Dr_Rambo> oh
[05:17] <DebolazX> And perhaps I forgot to hit tab enough times. :-P
[05:17] <Dr_Rambo> no, it is just word vomit. I just blurb out the word without thinking
[05:17] <DebolazX> An operator who does not think. What a complete shock. :-)
[05:23] <aav> i just caught myself chewing nicotine gum *and* using snuff
[05:44] <Dazed> Morning everyone! :) I'm trying to write a tool in Managed DirectX which will
[06:05] <Dr_Rambo> nut seenking!
[06:06] <aav> why does everyone cross-post in #directx and #gamedev? :P
[06:06] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[06:07] <Dr_Rambo> cos it is phun?
[06:07] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[06:07] <Dazed> So that maybe there is a chance the question will be answered! :P
[06:07] <aav> i should start replying in here only
[06:08] <aav> #directx is a dead horse anyhow
[06:08] <Ultyma> lawl
[06:08] * Ultyma does the batman dance
[06:08] <aav> we should really consolidate :P
[06:08] <Dr_Rambo> ded hos
[06:09] * aav batarangs Ultyma
[06:09] <Dr_Rambo> yeh, get those OpenGL guys here too
[06:09] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[06:09] <Dr_Rambo> down to one channel
[06:09] <aav> nah
[06:09] <Ultyma> :O
[06:09] <aav> there's no hope for the OpenGL guys
[06:09] <aav> :D
[06:09] <Ultyma> i feel like playing commodore 64 batman now
[06:09] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[06:09] <Ultyma> my desk at work sucks though, people can see what im doing
[06:10] <Ultyma> although that doesnt stop me from playing Bowman
[06:10] <Ultyma> lol
[06:10] <Dr_Rambo> bowman?
[06:10] <Ultyma> youve never played bowman?
[06:10] <Ultyma> its a flash game
[06:10] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[06:10] <Dr_Rambo> dun think so
[06:10] <Ultyma> you just shoot arrows at a computer controlled guy standing away
[06:10] <Ultyma> and you have to calculate the angle
[06:10] <Ultyma> and speed
[06:10] <Ultyma> its awesoem
[06:11] <Ultyma> do a google search :D
[06:46] * Epoch_ is now known as Epoch`_
[06:55] <Dr_Rambo> LOL, global warming. Ice age
[06:55] <Dr_Rambo> all can be solve with NUKES. Blast the icesheets away
[06:55] <Ultyma> lol
[06:57] <Squee-D> so not sleeping too well,, realized i left my phone (also my alarm clock) i
[06:57] <Squee-D> so i come down to get it, and what do i see
[06:57] <Squee-D> rambo and his global warming of doom :)
[06:57] <Ultyma> lol
[06:57] <Dr_Rambo> NUKES!
[06:58] <Dr_Rambo> nothing nukes can't solve
[06:58] <Squee-D> DOOM!
[06:58] <Squee-D> lol
[06:58] * Squee-D hates insomnia
[06:58] <Dr_Rambo> if iceage comes, we just need to detonate all our nukes
[06:58] <Squee-D> 3.5 hours to get some sleep. byeee
[06:58] <Dr_Rambo> and we will be fine and dandy
[06:58] <Dr_Rambo> g'nite Squee
[06:58] <Ultyma> lol
[07:00] <Dr_Rambo> hollywood always have a point. Killer Asteroid. Use nukes!
[07:01] <Squee-D> earths core stops spinning
[07:01] <Dr_Rambo> earth stopped moving/magnetic field stop functioning.. use nukes!
[07:01] <Squee-D> use nukes
[07:01] <Dr_Rambo> yep
[07:01] <wkr4k4r> oh god
[07:01] <wkr4k4r> that doesnt do shit though
[07:01] <Dr_Rambo> it's a pity Day after Tommrrow didn't follow that rule
[07:01] <Dr_Rambo> shoulda have use nuke in that movie
[07:01] <Squee-D> theres a web site on the absolute bunk in movies
[07:01] <wkr4k4r> who needs a website
[07:01] <Squee-D> its funny
[07:01] <wkr4k4r> just watch any computer scene
[07:01] <wkr4k4r> heh
[07:02] <wkr4k4r> 5 second super password cracking on a laptop
[07:02] <wkr4k4r> what a hacker
[07:02] <Squee-D> my friend did the computer scenes for Alias and some other tv shows
[07:03] <Squee-D> also funny
[07:03] <wkr4k4r> did they tell him do it our way or the highway?
[07:03] <Squee-D> hey otherwise it'd be boring
[07:03] <Dr_Rambo> is that why they always use mac
[07:03] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[07:03] <wkr4k4r> no way
[07:03] <Squee-D> ever seen 'House' ?
[07:03] <wkr4k4r> npoe
[07:03] <Squee-D> i personally love that show
[07:04] <wkr4k4r> if that the haunted house joke show?
[07:04] <Squee-D> i mean i fucking love it. especially coz hugh lawry is a dry cynical smart
[07:04] <Dr_Rambo> no
[07:04] <Squee-D> no its about a doctor at a hospital
[07:04] <Dr_Rambo> House is a medical drama
[07:04] <wkr4k4r> oh
[07:04] <Dr_Rambo> like.. erm.. ER
[07:04] <wkr4k4r> do they make 3ds models for the show?
[07:04] <Squee-D> he's meant to be very scientific and a big fan of the scientific method
[07:04] <wkr4k4r> pan around them and zoom in
[07:04] <Squee-D> no.. heres my point.
[07:04] <wkr4k4r> like the computer can actually do something
[07:04] <wkr4k4r> heh
[07:05] <Squee-D> if you ARE in the medical professsion, the whole show is BS
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> i bet
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> even if you arent
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> im sure its obviously bs
[07:05] <Squee-D> if you arent you can see the drama, but not how violently wrong it is
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> i can
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> heh
[07:05] <Squee-D> its condensed drama
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> but im a pro at seeing how fake tv is
[07:05] <wkr4k4r> well yea
[07:06] <Squee-D> yeah which guarantees it wont work as an entertainment media then
[07:06] <Squee-D> if you're going to enjoy it you need to suspend disbelief and the writers n
[07:06] <Squee-D> and possibly a little too real
[07:06] <wkr4k4r> yea definitely
[07:06] <Squee-D> man even reality shows dont work when theyre really real
[07:06] <wkr4k4r> you gotta be with a girl that is making you watch it
[07:06] <wkr4k4r> haha
[07:07] <wkr4k4r> and stoned
[07:07] <Ultyma> lol
[07:07] <Ultyma> Im being forced to watch Gilmour Girls
[07:07] <Ultyma> tonight starting at Season 1 on dvd
[07:07] <Squee-D> im my most cyncal stoned
[07:07] <wkr4k4r> oh god
[07:07] <Ultyma> lol
[07:07] <Squee-D> cant enjoy anything but comedy stoned
[07:07] <wkr4k4r> may god have mercy on your soul
[07:07] <Ultyma> lol
[07:07] <GooRooPR7> I was watching a guy be interviewed on the news and he answered all these
[07:08] <Squee-D> i love gilmour girls.
[07:08] <Squee-D> specifically, i love the mom :)
[07:08] <Ultyma> lol
[07:08] <wkr4k4r> who needs gilmour girls when there are real girls
[07:08] <wkr4k4r> heh
[07:08] <Ultyma> but im watching it with my real girl
[07:09] <wkr4k4r> yea
[07:09] <Ultyma> whom I just got together with
[07:09] <Ultyma> after trying to win her heart forever
[07:09] <Ultyma> lol
[07:09] <Squee-D> yeah it works out
[07:09] <Ultyma> god damn complicated relationships
[07:09] <Squee-D> it will go well if you watch gilmour girls together
[07:09] <Squee-D> its a strong bonder
[07:09] <GooRooPR7> my ex made me watch corination street
[07:09] <Squee-D> got a tip for ya
[07:09] <Ultyma> LOL
[07:09] <Ultyma> that show is ass gooroo
[07:09] <GooRooPR7> lol
[07:10] <Squee-D> get empasssioned about how right Luke and lorelai are for each other
[07:10] <GooRooPR7> I have no idea what was going on
[07:10] <wkr4k4r> she is an ex now
[07:10] <wkr4k4r> what is corination street?
[07:10] <Ultyma> lol squee
[07:10] <wkr4k4r> urination street?
[07:10] * Ultyma writes that down
[07:10] <GooRooPR7> I just spooned and turned off my ears
[07:10] <Ultyma> lol
[07:10] <Squee-D> right, bed
[07:10] <Ultyma> nite :D
[07:12] <Dr_Rambo> lol
[07:12] <Dr_Rambo> Corination street? British drama stuff
[07:12] <Dr_Rambo> longest running TV series ever I think. since 1950
[07:13] <Dr_Rambo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_Street
[07:13] <Dr_Rambo> 1960-now. wow. 47 years. a whole generation of ppl can be growing up with
[07:13] <GooRooPR7> Boronation
[07:14] <GooRooPR7> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Bet_lynch.jpg
[07:14] <GooRooPR7> all you need to know
[07:20] <Dr_Rambo> yeh it is pretty boring
[07:28] * Nnorak` is now known as Nnorak
[08:44] * Pc[Gone] is now known as PcChip
[08:50] <CyrixBoy> no u
[08:50] <CyrixBoy> thanks for the +v, bleeding_!
[08:52] * Slade stabs CyrixBoy so hes bleeding too
[08:54] <CyrixBoy> huhu
[08:54] <Slade> whats up
[08:54] <CyrixBoy> i trust you all have your dx10 parts now
[08:54] <Slade> negatory dx10 is bad mojo
[08:55] <CyrixBoy> what
[08:55] <CyrixBoy> LIES
[08:55] <CyrixBoy> its the best thing since poptarts
[08:55] <Slade> in 2 years dx10 is good mojo
[08:55] <Slade> poptarts suck
[08:55] <CyrixBoy> NO U
[09:06] <honkykong> poptarts > *
[09:06] * Slade- prefers eggo waffles
[09:07] <honkykong> i make my own waffles, my mom gave me a iron for em a couple years ago
[09:07] <honkykong> i gotta say, i totally pwn eggo
[09:07] <Slade-> yea. home made ones are better
[09:07] <Slade-> so in my book you own poptarts
[09:09] <honkykong> ah yeah well that may be
[09:09] <honkykong> my apple waffles are *awesome*
[09:09] <honkykong> you dice up a granny smith apple into little core-less skinless bits
[09:10] <honkykong> then mix inwith the batter, then cover the waffle you get with more bits,
[09:10] <honkykong> its *awesome*
[09:10] * Slade- believes you
[09:10] * Slade- is now known as Slade
[09:14] <CyrixBoy> sounds like the only healthy thing in it is the apples
[09:15] <Ultyma> lol
[09:15] <Ultyma> <Apex> i have a sore foot
[09:15] <Ultyma> <Joekak> pussy
[09:15] <Ultyma> <Apex> no, foot
[09:15] <Ultyma> lol
[09:15] <CyrixBoy> huhu
[09:15] <honkykong> yeah it may or may not be good for you but... mmmm man... they're awesome
[09:16] <Slade> waffles are not healthy. but mmmm.. :)
[09:16] <Slade> and edfinately mo betta than poptarts
[09:16] <Slade> and insanely better than my typing ability
[09:16] <honkykong> yeah my biggest problem with poptarts is the preservatives
[09:17] <Slade> they taste like cardboard
[09:17] <honkykong> wtf do you gotta put in that filling to keep it gooey like that? somethin
[09:17] <Slade> i bet bender likes poptarts tho!
[09:27] <honkykong> bender also seems to have no problem shitting bricks
[09:27] <honkykong> so maybe not so human digestable
[09:36] <honkykong> damn i wish i could afford a mocap suit
[09:36] <honkykong> i bet i could do some awesome mocaps
[09:37] <Slade> they're like 20k for a decent one arent they?
[09:37] <honkykong> i'm pretty good with nunchuks, i keep daydreaming about a cool nunchuk ba
[09:37] <honkykong> i think thats the ballpark for a flock of birds yeah
[09:37] <honkykong> but theres couple flavors
[09:37] <honkykong> the kind that meausre angle distance between appendages (pricey)
[09:38] <honkykong> and the ones that make you wear like, neon orange wrist bands and stuff a
[09:38] <aav> poptarts.. probably the most artificial "food" i've tasted
[09:38] <Slade> yup
[09:38] <honkykong> i had most of a nice lil homemade 'powerglove' made at one poitn
[09:38] <Slade> 100% fake
[09:38] <honkykong> but thats gone now :/
[09:38] <honkykong> what about fruit rollups
[09:38] <honkykong> theres nothing even vauguely human-edible there
[09:38] <honkykong> just some gellatinous paste on some waxpaper
[09:39] <honkykong> or... 'flan'
[09:39] <aav> http://www.junkfoodblog.com/2006/07/jimmy-dean-chocolate-chip-pancakes.html
[09:39] <honkykong> that shits actually made.. .by humans... in a earth kitchen, and you'd st
[09:40] <honkykong> heh nice
[09:40] <aav> only in the US of A
[09:41] <honkykong> home of the crousammich
[09:42] <honkykong> anyone seen the new rocky?
[09:42] <honkykong> i was impressed, it was really pretty good... maybe the best one since th
[09:47] <mrchris> who does he fight?
[09:48] <Slade> weird. the gypsy torso is only 5 k
[09:49] <Slade> the full body is 25k
[09:49] <Slade> seems like the legs are the expensive parts :P
[09:50] <Slade> the high end mondel is 80k :p
[09:51] <GooRooPR7> mrchris: he fights old age
[09:54] <honkykong> mrchris some new champion guy
[09:54] <honkykong> he doesnt win either
[09:54] <honkykong> still a good movie though
[09:55] <honkykong> hey slade you mention mesh count, i was wondering about that earlier
[09:55] <honkykong> what, in yalls opinion, is a decent mesh count for a 'main player charact
[09:55] <honkykong> for the actual gameplay sequences that is, not the cut scenes or anything
[09:55] <swx> mesh count?
[09:55] <swx> dont you mean poly count?
[09:55] <swx> or triangle count rather
[09:56] <honkykong> sure
[09:56] <honkykong> whatever you wanna call it
[09:56] <honkykong> you know what i mean
[09:57] <honkykong> i got my games main char at between 1500-2500 poly looking good
[09:57] <Slade> depends on the type og game
[09:57] <honkykong> i can butch it down to 1000 or so but it takes a hit graphically
[09:57] <Slade> i assure you a fighting game lika DOA is going to have higher triangle count
[09:59] <honkykong> yeah no doubt
[09:59] <honkykong> but they can do that, figuring there will only be two chars on screen at
[09:59] <honkykong> i figure i might have up to a dozen opponents on screen at once
[09:59] <Slade> as i said, it depends on the game ;0
[09:59] <swx> use LOD?
[09:59] <honkykong> and i dont like to be the developer that makes people go buy a new comp
[09:59] <honkykong> yeah thats the plan
[10:00] <swx> make a highpoly one for closeups, and LOD for distant ones
[10:00] <swx> allows you to use more highpoly ones on good hardware etc
[10:00] <honkykong> yeah i'm gonna use directx's adjency mesh for that
[10:00] <honkykong> sure but that doesnt really help for what i was talking aobut though
[10:00] <honkykong> main player character
[10:00] <swx> dx runtime stuff = inefficient
[10:00] <swx> better to do static LOD levels
[10:00] <honkykong> always gonna see that one looking as good as it ever looks robably
[10:00] <swx> and just switch, perhaps with some blending/morphing
[10:01] <honkykong> i dunno i kinda like dx's adjency mesh based optimizations
[10:01] <Slade> honkykong: how many tris do you need to make it look good?
[10:01] <honkykong> whats wrong with them?
[10:01] <honkykong> 2200
[10:01] <Slade> then use 2200
[10:01] <swx> 2200 is low anyway
[10:01] <honkykong> yeah thats what i figure, i'm just trying toget a feel for if thats high/
[10:02] <honkykong> pretty low then? what do people budget themselves for that sort of charac
[10:02] <Slade> i'm sure some games use 10
[10:02] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[10:03] <honkykong> hai relic how goes
[10:03] <[Relic]> :)
[10:04] <swx> http://www.unrealtechnology.com/screens/character_creation3.jpg = 5287
[10:04] <swx> http://www.unrealtechnology.com/screens/character_creation2.jpg
[10:05] <honkykong> wow, 5k poly for that is pretty impressive
[10:05] <honkykong> i thought it was way higher in that first render
[10:05] <swx> normalmapping :)
[10:06] <swx> http://www.unrealtechnology.com/screens/character_creation1.jpg highpoly for cr
[10:06] <honkykong> yeah i need to get down with some of that
[10:06] <honkykong> i'd like to use it for my games snow, i think it'd help break up its env
[10:06] <Squee-D> thats quite some work
[10:07] <honkykong> yeah it is
[10:07] <honkykong> hows going Squee-D
[10:08] <Squee-D> 3 hrs sleep bro
[10:08] <Squee-D> feeeling crap
[10:08] <Squee-D> u?
[10:08] <honkykong> cant complain
[10:09] <honkykong> another day in paradise
[10:09] <Squee-D> sure ya can
[10:09] <honkykong> yeah but what would it accomplish ;)
[10:09] <Squee-D> venting :)
[10:09] <honkykong> hmm k
[10:09] <honkykong> lemme see here
[10:10] * honkykong shakes angry fist that pot is still illegal in america
[10:10] <honkykong> there we go
[10:10] <honkykong> i'm done
[10:10] <Squee-D> heh
[10:10] <Squee-D> decriminalise it anyway, don't make it legal
[10:10] <honkykong> yeah i dont really care what they call it
[10:11] <honkykong> stop busting potheads
[10:11] <honkykong> when was the last time a pothead hurt anyone
[10:11] <Squee-D> meantime, dont get caught
[10:11] <Squee-D> yeah :)
[10:11] <honkykong> ya
[10:11] <Squee-D> well ok i used to think it was ENTIRELY benign.
[10:11] <Squee-D> but..
[10:11] <Squee-D> a serious pothead who cant score
[10:11] <Squee-D> can be a danger
[10:12] <Squee-D> actually it wasnt even that
[10:12] <honkykong> dude i'm the most serious pothead i'm aware of
[10:12] <honkykong> and i got weeks at a time without likes it no big deal
[10:12] <honkykong> i just work out more
[10:12] <honkykong> got/go
[10:12] <Squee-D> not everyone reacts the same way
[10:12] <honkykong> true
[10:12] <Squee-D> serious pothead (personal experience) got back from long plane trip
[10:12] <honkykong> i never seen or heard of a pot head like, mugging people for a fix though
[10:12] <Squee-D> now this guys usually uber mellow
[10:12] <Squee-D> no true
[10:13] <Squee-D> he finds his pot is no longer in his bowl upstairs in his part of the place
[10:13] <honkykong> well thats a lil different
[10:13] <Squee-D> he locates me and nearly cracks my skull open for either (in his mind) smok
[10:13] <honkykong> thats not the pothead getting mad at the lack of pot
[10:13] <Squee-D> dude, he was craving
[10:13] <Squee-D> he was incoherent for it
[10:13] <honkykong> thats a personal, rightfully so, reacting to the breaking of 'rule #1'
[10:14] <honkykong> personal/person
[10:14] <honkykong> rule #1 = dont fuck with another mans drugs
[10:14] <Squee-D> i recognised it because i've had the same serious kinds of problems with al
[10:14] <Squee-D> yeah but hang about, i didnt do shit
[10:14] <honkykong> ah yeah well everyones lil different
[10:14] <Squee-D> when i smoke pot i need like a half cone to be bent for 2 hours
[10:15] <honkykong> if i have any one strongest attribute, to put myself in rpg terms, its pr
[10:15] <Squee-D> and it makes me feel sick and paranoid, no way i burnt down a bag the size
[10:16] <Squee-D> im not blaming any drug, im not crazy like that
[10:16] <Squee-D> but i get the feeling we're not better off for readily available drugs eith
[10:16] <Squee-D> especially the younger someone is.
[10:16] <Squee-D> give them a chance to grow and maybe not get qquite so bogged down with lif
[10:17] <honkykong> well its all in your choice of poison
[10:17] <honkykong> i dont like the legal drugs
[10:17] <honkykong> other than coffee/sugar that is
[10:17] <Squee-D> my choice was lsd, i loved it, dont regret trying to outdo jim morrisson an
[10:17] <Squee-D> glad i was an adult before i got rolling on that one tho :)
[10:18] <honkykong> yeah i did a lot too
[10:18] <honkykong> these days i'm mostly a pot type of person though
[10:18] <honkykong> sometimes i like to do a shot after i finish a run
[10:18] <honkykong> gives a runners high a great extra lil body buzz
[10:18] <honkykong> hey anyone got a mocap rig here?
[10:19] <honkykong> i can use two pairs of nunchuk pretty well
[10:19] <honkykong> on fire even
[10:19] <honkykong> i'd like to mocap that
[10:20] <honkykong> anyone ever played any decent nunchuk type games? or games with nunchuks
[10:20] <Squee-D> not at all
[10:20] <honkykong> they really need one huh
[10:20] <honkykong> i've been thinking about it for a while
[10:20] <Squee-D> http://www.worth1000.com/cache/contest/contestcache.asp?contest_id=13700&di
[10:20] <honkykong> i got a really cool system in mind for upgrading the nunchuka over time t
[10:21] <Squee-D> you need to do some mocap with a cardboard box first
[10:21] <Squee-D> get some realistic movement in that game of yours
[10:21] <honkykong> hehe
[10:21] <honkykong> with accurate... uh... box motion
[10:21] <honkykong> i'll setup an ik chain for the box flaps
[10:21] <honkykong> and apply mocap to it with those as the legs
[10:23] <honkykong> hey what about an iEye?
[10:23] <Squee-D> captain
[10:26] <Squee-D> iCube is funny
[10:26] <honkykong> just have a pic of a face, maybe with a ocean at sea in the background, o
[10:26] <honkykong> maybe have the pic be some guy lifting up an eye patch
[10:26] <honkykong> and underneath is the iEye
[10:27] <honkykong> or iBall maybe?
[10:27] <Squee-D> i dont wanna know
[10:28] <flashed> or the iballs?
[10:28] <Squee-D> iCandi is a good one too.
[10:29] <Squee-D> there is an iEye there honky
[10:29] <flashed> iboobs?
[10:29] <flashed> and the list goes on..
[10:29] <Squee-D> apple cant improve boobs dude
[10:29] <Squee-D> simple fact of life
[10:29] <flashed> they can add a mp3 player to it..
[10:30] <Squee-D> i hear music the moment i get close to them anyway
[10:30] <honkykong> and a hires compact lcd display
[10:30] <honkykong> for boob in boob display
[10:30] <Squee-D> nooo
[10:30] <flashed> hehe
[10:30] <Squee-D> leave boobs alone
[10:30] <flashed> true Squee-D
[10:30] <Squee-D> ahahahahah the iRon
[10:30] <Squee-D> lol
[10:31] <flashed> wus dat?
[10:32] <Squee-D> and iron.
[10:32] <Squee-D> that page has some clever ones on it
[10:32] <flashed> uuhhh
[10:33] <Squee-D> the iDied casket :)
[10:33] <flashed> LOL
[11:32] <MeshMan> hey guys
[11:32] <ht7z> good evening
[11:35] <MeshMan> anyone got a little knowledge on software laws?
[11:36] <MeshMan> like, the laws on developing a software package for your employer
[11:36] <Slade> i'd say 6% of the channel does
[11:36] <MeshMan> who owns it etc.
[11:36] <MeshMan> heh, hey Slade
[11:36] <Slade> howdy
[11:36] <flashed> MeshMan: think thats a matter of contract..
[11:40] <MeshMan> ive been spinning on what the best sort of support contract to offer a non
[11:40] <MeshMan> they heavily care about support post project
[11:41] <MeshMan> with not being a software corp, i was thinking like telling them to give me
[11:41] <MeshMan> and ill support them after through a company nam
[11:41] <MeshMan> name
[11:41] <MeshMan> charging a yearly support fee
[11:41] <Slade> why not let them keep the software and chareg them a support fee
[11:41] <MeshMan> so i can license it off to other companies after =)
[11:43] <MeshMan> they wont be that stupid though
[11:43] <aav> hey meshy
[11:43] <MeshMan> hi aav
[11:43] <aav> is this the business sw you were writing?
[11:43] <aav> sadly i forgot exactly what it was
[11:43] <MeshMan> yep
[11:43] <MeshMan> doing my presentation pretty soon
[11:43] <aav> but thats my bad memory
[11:43] <aav> ah
[11:43] <aav> nice
[11:43] <aav> getting any dough for it?
[11:44] <MeshMan> its a finite scheduling tool for a manufacturing group of sites
[11:44] <MeshMan> oh yes :)
[11:44] <aav> ah
[11:44] <aav> great :)
[11:44] <MeshMan> i get a government grant too
[11:44] <MeshMan> and a graduate to work with me
[11:44] <aav> damned
[11:44] <aav> that's pretty awesome
[11:44] <aav> congrats are in order :)
[11:44] <MeshMan> yep :)
[11:45] <MeshMan> i want to get myself into the position of charging them a really attractive
[11:45] <MeshMan> like say, 5-10 per site
[11:45] <MeshMan> k
[11:45] <MeshMan> 5-10k i mean
[11:45] <MeshMan> and there is 4 sites
[11:45] <MeshMan> and another 15 to go at :D
[11:45] <swx> do you actually have any knowledge about scheduling and optimization stuff? ;)
[11:45] <MeshMan> yes, about 6 years hehe
[11:45] <swx> or are the people paying for it totally clueless? ;)
[11:45] <MeshMan> finite capacity scheduling
[11:46] <MeshMan> its my empployer :)
[11:46] <aav> mess_ :D
[11:46] <aav> er
[11:46] <aav> MeshMan
[11:46] <aav> :)
[11:47] <aav> i need to schedule my staring into space, sleeping and coding... if i could opt
[11:47] <MeshMan> hehe
[11:48] <MeshMan> http://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/dstools/process/fcs.html
[11:49] <swx> first result with google :P
[11:49] <MeshMan> yep
[11:49] <MeshMan> just to give you an idea hehe
[11:50] <swx> had things like that both in the AI and Optimization course
[11:50] <Slade> aav: have you been staring into space and not making the server? :(
[11:50] <MeshMan> swx, yeah, its pretty related to a common way of coding constraint based al
[11:51] <aav> Slade, i dont mean today.... ive been staring into the kitchen sink and moving
[11:51] <Slade> heh :P
[11:52] <swx> and the Real-Time Systems course was entirely about scheduling ;)
[11:52] <MeshMan> swx, the hardcore stuff is long term demand-capacity planning
[11:52] <MeshMan> where your making a manufacturing plan based on like 100's of constraints
[11:52] <MeshMan> over say 2 years of data analysis
[11:53] <MeshMan> like sales forecasts, warehouse capacitys, product margins
[11:53] <MeshMan> etc..
[11:53] <MeshMan> thats the hardcore stuffies
[11:53] <swx> our project in the Optimization Advance Course had 1000's of constraints ;)
[11:53] <MeshMan> hehe
[11:53] <MeshMan> can you recommend any books?
[11:53] <CyrixBoy> fahrenheit 451
[11:53] <CyrixBoy> que press using assembly
[11:54] <CyrixBoy> "how to get out of the vent system in canterstrake"
[11:54] <Ultyma> canterstrake lol
[11:55] <swx> well, some intro book to optimization is always useful, the one we had was in s
[11:55] <MeshMan> heh :)
[11:55] <CyrixBoy> unless you live in switzerland
[11:55] * aav kills CyrixBoy
[11:55] <swx> an AI book with lots of theory about searching and scheduling might be useful
[11:55] <MeshMan> yeah, the kind of algortihm im after is like a neuron network
[11:56] <MeshMan> jumping from 'points' with value or cost
[11:56] <aav> hmmm
[11:56] <MeshMan> or constraint based programming
[11:56] <aav> Dr^Nick knows a lot of NN and other AI
[11:56] <MeshMan> thats a common name for the kind of coding im thinking baout
[11:56] <swx> kinda doubt a NN would be the best solution for constraint solving
[11:57] <swx> AMPL + CPLEX ;)
[11:57] <MeshMan> ?
[11:57] <swx> cplex is a simplex solver
[11:57] <swx> and AMPL is a programming language for optimization problems
[11:57] <swx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMPL
[11:58] <swx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPLEX
[11:59] <MeshMan> we have a planning tool that takes like 3 hours to 'think'
[11:59] <MeshMan> on a dual cpu machine
[11:59] <MeshMan> so i kinda assumed the coding going on was realyl advanced
[11:59] <MeshMan> so i dont fancy offering to write anything planning related :)
[12:00] <aav> maybe it's doing an exhaustive search
[12:00] <CyrixBoy> yes
[12:00] <aav> :P
[12:00] <CyrixBoy> the advanced code
[12:00] <CyrixBoy> sleep();
[12:00] <swx> 3h is nothing ;)
[12:00] <swx> we ran our problems for like a week :P
[12:00] <CyrixBoy> for (i=2;i<1;i++){sleep(i);}
[12:00] <swx> on a pretty decent machine
[12:00] <MeshMan> i figured someone would say that heh
[12:01] <MeshMan> well, it really depends on the amount of constraints your throwing at it
[12:01] <swx> but they we're really really big integer problems
[12:01] <swx> => very very very slow to solve
[12:04] <MeshMan> ah
[12:05] <Slade> or maybe. meshmans code is jsut more efficient than yours ;)
[12:05] <MeshMan> the nice thing is swx, im starting a MRes. too
[12:05] <MeshMan> so i can spend two years researching that algorithm outside of my software
[12:05] <MeshMan> might be a good idea actually
[12:05] <MeshMan> since when im done with scheduling, i could work on planning :)
[12:07] <MeshMan> from the research i could do on one of these l33t algorithms
[12:11] <Dr^Nick> All :)
[12:11] <Dr^Nick> Whats an MRes?
[12:15] <MeshMan> Masters by Research
[12:16] <swx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Research ?
[12:17] <swx> do you have a graduate degree? or even an undergraduate?
[12:18] <swx> hmm
[12:18] <swx> nm that
[12:18] <swx> but do you have any degree at all?
[12:19] <Ultyma> i dont have a degree and I have an uber job
[12:19] <Ultyma> :D
[12:19] <Slade> define uber?
[12:20] <Ultyma> im a co network administrator, help desk administrator, and software develo
[12:20] <Slade> what makes that uber?
[12:20] <Ultyma> because i sit here on irc
[12:20] <Ultyma> and make millions
[12:20] <Ultyma> lol
[12:20] <Ultyma> doing nothing
[12:20] <Ultyma> im at work right now
[12:20] <Slade> you make millions? :P
[12:20] <Slade> of what? lyra?
[12:20] <Ultyma> Yen
[12:20] <MeshMan> swx, nothing at all
[12:21] <swx> but that thing is a postgraduate thing, meaning you should have a degree first?
[12:21] <MeshMan> yes, i know :)
[12:21] <MeshMan> ive no idea how my Uni is pulling it off
[12:22] <swx> which uni?
[12:22] <MeshMan> i sent them my CV, some projects Ive done
[12:22] <MeshMan> and they said my skills are teh l33t enough
[12:22] <MeshMan> and im over 21
[12:22] <MeshMan> so i can go straight into that
[12:22] <MeshMan> Leeds Metropolian University
[12:22] <swx> age doesnt matter :P
[12:23] <MeshMan> the programme im doing they said it did
[12:23] <MeshMan> they couldnt take into account my industry experience until i was 21
[12:24] <swx> weird system, over here industry experience can only help you get into an under
[12:25] <MeshMan> yeah
[12:25] <MeshMan> i kept asking, believe me, i was shocked
[12:32] <swx> so are you going to do doctoral research later? ;)
[12:36] <Dr^Nick> I challenged the first 2 years of my undergrad program, then switch unis an
[12:36] <Dr^Nick> that sucked.
[12:36] <MeshMan> swx, yes :P
[12:37] <swx> you dont really strike me as the academic type ;)
[12:37] <MeshMan> im not
[12:37] <swx> didnt you end school at like 16?
[12:37] <MeshMan> but this is applied
[12:37] <MeshMan> yes I did
[12:37] <GooRooPR7> wish you could get degrees by convincing people you are smart rather than
[12:38] <swx> take lots of exams? ;)
[12:38] <GooRooPR7> play board games
[12:39] <GooRooPR7> I played Upwords against my gf.. beat her 340 to 170 lol
[12:40] <swx> "Doctoral programmes – the PhD (Doctor of Philosophy) is the most common – usua
[12:40] <swx> gl ;)
[12:42] <MeshMan> "transfer from a Masters course" ;)
[12:42] <swx> but doesnt that imply a real Masters Degree?
[12:43] * MeshMan shrugs
[12:44] <flashed> yup
[12:46] <Dr^Nick> Swx - Masters in the states are different than masters in the rest of the w
[12:46] <swx> well Masters in Europe is 5years
[12:46] <Dr^Nick> dm
[12:46] <Dr^Nick> dm
[12:46] <Dr^Nick> gah
[12:46] <Dr^Nick> devork.
[12:47] <Dr^Nick> hm. Here it's between 1-2 years
[12:47] <Dr^Nick> phd = 4-6
[12:47] <swx> but you need stuff before you start Masters?
[12:48] <swx> here you can start a 5yr Masters right after HS... so its probably similar i le
[12:48] <Dr^Nick> swx = ahh
[12:48] <Dr^Nick> here you need a 4 year degree first
[12:49] <Dr^Nick> so yeah
[12:49] <Dr^Nick> the US is slightly different than us (Im in Canada)
[12:49] <Dr^Nick> here the progression is undergrad->masters->phd
[12:49] <Dr^Nick> there its undergrad->masters or undergrad->phd as I understand it
[12:49] <Dr^Nick> but not the progression
[12:53] <MeshMan> my friend is doing a BSc->PhD
[12:54] <MeshMan> and what im doing is the MRes. or known as an MPhil.
[12:54] <MeshMan> and it 'can' go onto a PhD if I want to
[12:55] <swx> I just think its kinda weird that you can skip the undergrad part... that's whe
[12:55] <swx> its not like you'll ever learn that stuff by working a couple of years
[13:00] <MeshMan> yeah, i agree
[13:00] <MeshMan> its not that im special or anything
[13:00] <MeshMan> im missing out on a lot
[13:00] <MeshMan> hey Butch
[13:01] <_Butcher_> hey
[13:01] <PitDroid> que tal, _Butcher_
[13:03] <Unit41> who knows how to make noise without those cheasy smooth functions ?
[13:03] <Slade> get a mic and blow into it!
[13:03] <staerlor> take a photo of a really dark room
[13:03] <staerlor> and amplify
[13:04] <Unit41> nice
[13:05] <Unit41> hmmm you gave me an idea
[13:08] <Dr^Nick> Introduction to Algorithms (Corman, Rivest...), Introduction to the Theory
[13:08] <Dr^Nick> Books (or equivalents of) I feel that you should know by the time you're do
[13:08] <Dr^Nick> in cs
[13:11] <_Butcher_> intro to algorithms rocks
[13:11] <_Butcher_> still have that on ym desk at work
[13:12] <_Butcher_> staerlor: or take a photo with the lens cap on :p
[13:12] <swx> thats like ~1yr of courses ;)
[13:15] <MeshMan> aha
[13:15] <MeshMan> thanks for that nick :)
[13:15] <MeshMan> ill get ordering :)
[13:15] <swx> check for lecture slides on the various topics...
[13:16] <swx> lots of unis posts all lecture slides online
[13:16] <MeshMan> yeah, i love studying when its applied at what im doing at work
[13:16] <MeshMan> when i tried college, i did it for a year, and was pig sick by the end of i
[13:17] <MeshMan> i made the decision that i wouldnt stand doing 4 years on a BSc without app
[13:18] <Dr^Nick> The Database book is really dry, but unfortunately I know of no better book
[13:19] <MeshMan> do you have an ISBN of Amazon link to that book? Intro to Algo
[13:19] <MeshMan> theres tons with that name
[13:20] <MeshMan> Introduction to Algorithms by Thomas H. Cormen, Stein Clifford, Charles E.
[13:20] <MeshMan> this one?
[13:20] <swx> we used http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-Database-Systems-Ramez-Elmasri/dp/03
[13:21] <swx> for our database technology course, also pretty boring ;)
[13:22] <Dr^Nick> Mesh - you want the second edition, unless there is a 3rd by now..
[13:22] <MeshMan> the TOC looks fantastic
[13:22] <MeshMan> what language does it use?
[13:22] <Dr^Nick> Swx - is it about using, or designing database systems
[13:22] <Dr^Nick> mesh - pseudocode
[13:22] <swx> other books: Data Structures & Their Algorithms, Automata and Computability
[13:23] <Dr^Nick> Hrm. I had a few data structures books... none of which I really liked.
[13:23] <swx> Dr^Nick: its about all the lowlevel stuff, and designing databases
[13:23] <Dr^Nick> okay good :D
[13:23] <Dr^Nick> I should have a peek @ it
[13:24] <MeshMan> nick, are you familiar with any constraint solving algortihms?
[13:25] <MeshMan> or books that discuss that sort of thing?
[13:25] <Dr^Nick> hm. linear or nonlinear?
[13:26] <MeshMan> whats the difference? :)
[13:26] <Dr^Nick> the constraints themselves
[13:27] <Dr^Nick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_programming
[13:27] <swx> find an intro to Optimization
[13:27] <Slade> NEW! Discusses current database application areas of GIS, genome, and digital
[13:27] <Slade> ugh. no spacial database info :/
[13:27] <swx> numerical methods are also useful to know
[13:29] <CyrixBoy> i looked at the state of iraq transcript and didnt see it anywhere
[13:29] <CyrixBoy> did anyone else find the words?
[13:30] <CyrixBoy> "i resign"
[13:31] <MeshMan> erm
[13:31] <MeshMan> whats the difference between
[13:31] <MeshMan> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-Algorithms-Thomas-H-Cormen/dp/00701315
[13:31] <Decept404> http://andreas.rayon.no/temp/Sunjammer-(DownYouGo).mp3
[13:32] <Decept404> atari rave forever!
[13:32] * Decept404 glowsticks/boxraves
[13:32] <MeshMan> and the first one i posted
[13:32] <Ultyma> :O
[13:32] <Slade> one is in the UK?
[13:33] <MeshMan> they both are
[13:33] <swx> we had our Algorithm course in Ada :(
[13:33] <MeshMan> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-Algorithms-Thomas-H-Cormen/dp/02625319
[13:33] <MeshMan> thats the first one
[13:33] <MeshMan> they look identical
[13:33] <MeshMan> the hardback is cheaper
[13:33] <MeshMan> the paper back has more authors?
[13:33] <MeshMan> and one is released 1 month later
[13:33] <MeshMan> so i dont get it
[13:33] <Decept404> paperback is harder to write apparently
[13:33] <swx> look at the number of pages
[13:34] <swx> Hardcover: 1056 pages
[13:34] <swx> Paperback: 1202 pages
[13:34] <Slade> different isbn
[13:34] <Slade> and diff number of apges
[13:34] <MeshMan> hmmz
[13:34] <MeshMan> so they rewrote it like a month later with less pages?
[13:34] * MeshMan scratches his head
[13:34] <Slade> pages are different sizes
[13:35] <Slade> hardcover pages are bigger :p
[13:35] <MeshMan> so which one do I get? :P
[13:35] <MeshMan> or are just saying its purely just the hard/paper back difference
[13:35] <swx> buy hardcover, paperback break more easily ;)
[13:35] <Slade> hardback and paper backs usually use the same isbn dont they?
[13:37] <MeshMan> the hardback is out of stock :/
[13:37] * Swish[\] is now known as Swish
[13:38] <swx> so start with the Computability book ;)
[13:39] <swx> or dou you want to read all the books at once? :P
[13:39] <MeshMan> =)
[13:40] <MeshMan> thats like $90 USD
[13:40] <MeshMan> so expensive
[13:40] <swx> uni books are usually really expensive
[13:40] <swx> the number theory book I need to buy is like $110 or something
[13:40] <MeshMan> i would of thought they would be cheaper
[13:41] <MeshMan> what are the topics in that Theory book i wonder
[13:42] <staerlor> during my uni time I usually bought books for about $1200 a year
[13:43] <MeshMan> the topics in that book are like 'wtf' to me
[13:43] <MeshMan> ive never seen the words used in coding before
[13:43] <swx> the algorithm book?
[13:43] <MeshMan> FINITE AUTOMATA
[13:43] <swx> Formal Languages and Automata Theory = fun :D
[13:44] <swx> need it to know how compilers work :P
[13:44] <swx> and parsing in general
[13:44] * NR` is now known as NR
[13:44] <swx> also good for understanding why some things are uncomputable
[13:45] <swx> Halting Problem etc
[13:46] <MeshMan> back in a sec, bill says rebooty
[13:50] * __senate- is now known as senate-
[14:18] <Decept404> man it's like nobody plays gears anymore
[14:27] <GooRooPR7> what are they playing?
[14:27] <GooRooPR7> GOW is boring once you've finished it 30 times
[14:31] <GooRooPR7> precompiled headers don't work too well in Borland. I'm building PR and
[14:32] <MeshMan> Borland C++?
[14:33] <GooRooPR7> ya
[14:37] <DimR0C> wow who uses borland
[14:40] <GooRooPR7> companies that have too much code to change to VC
[15:07] <Decept404> man
[15:07] <Decept404> crackdown is fun
[15:26] * LaRssA_ is now known as LaRssA
[15:42] <Unit41> are there any procedural terrain guru's in the here ?
[15:49] <swx> probably not, but someone may be able to answer your questions anyway ;)
[15:49] <Unit41> I dont have any questions tho
[15:50] <Unit41> at least not at the moment
[16:12] <NotCyrix> hello??/
[16:15] <Unit41> hell no
[16:49] * BeanCurd is now known as jAgx
[17:03] <pangloss> wow.. mgs3 is really amazing
[17:03] <pangloss> i had never played it before.
[18:02] <Rangar> from CNet.. Perhaps we're spoiled, but after more than five years of develop
[18:02] <Rangar> OUCH
[18:02] <Rangar> re Windows Vista btw
[18:02] <kw> heh
[18:04] <Debolaz> I feel some reviewers has a certain bias against Windows Vista. Whether Win
[18:04] <Debolaz> Based on, say, all the negative things they said before they even got their
[18:30] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[18:31] <kw> cast your votes now.. which should be Apple's next product? http://www.worth1000
[18:35] <mess> they both suck
[18:36] <kw> omg
[18:36] * kw pulls out his iBrator
[18:36] <kw> erm..
[18:36] <kw> ok, fair enough :(
[19:25] <Ghaleon> the iGuitar is for fruity emo groups
[19:25] <Ghaleon> the iBrator at least attracts a mostly female crowd, mostly
[19:31] <kw> did you know there is actually a similar line out there atm
[19:31] <kw> by durex?
[19:31] <kw> it's designed to look classy and non-suggestive
[19:31] <kw> we have it here in regular drugstores, cos they don't look like sex toys
[19:31] <kw> forgot what the name is
[19:32] <kw> ah yeah
[19:32] <kw> Vibrations
[19:32] <kw> http://www.durex.com/US/Play_range.asp?intMenuOpen=
[19:32] <kw> they kinda look like razors or smth
[19:33] <Ghaleon> thepenismightier
[19:33] <kw> ahaha
[19:33] <kw> I thought I was the only celebrity jeopardy addict ;(
[19:34] <shea> personally i think lipstick vibrators are classiest
[19:34] <kw> haha yeah, those are cool
[19:34] <wkr4k4r> celebrity jeopardy is a jok
[19:34] <wkr4k4r> joke
[19:34] <wkr4k4r> a tard could win\
[19:35] <kw> ...
[19:35] <kw> Im gonna assume you haven't heard of the SLN sketches by the name "celebrity jeo
[19:35] <kw> (instead of assuming you're german and failed to see it was a joke)
[19:35] <wkr4k4r> no
[19:36] <kw> well
[19:36] <wkr4k4r> ive only watched the real thing
[19:36] <wkr4k4r> and its a joke
[19:36] <kw> check youtube or something for celebrity jeopardy
[19:36] <kw> yeah
[19:36] <kw> SLN agrees
[19:36] <wkr4k4r> its like who is rosie odonnel
[19:36] <kw> so they've made a parody
[19:36] <kw> ;-)
[19:36] <kw> mocking how ridiculously stupid questions get
[19:36] <wkr4k4r> the current president
[19:36] <wkr4k4r> who is george bush
[19:36] <wkr4k4r> you win!
[19:37] <kw> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=celebrity+jeopardy&search=Search
[19:37] <kw> dont click first one
[19:37] <kw> thats a compilation
[19:37] <Ghaleon> the ones with Sean Connery are da bestest
[19:37] <wkr4k4r> no need for a parody the real thing was bad enough
[19:37] <kw> hahah yeah
[19:37] <kw> connery rules
[19:38] <kw> wkr4k4r - dude, quit whining already.. its a parody.
[19:38] <kw> "I'll take The Rapists for $800"
[19:38] <kw> ;-D
[19:38] <kw> hehehe
[19:38] <wkr4k4r> i would have actually won that episode
[19:38] * Ghaleon puts wkr4k4r in the "I don't get it" room
[19:39] <kw> heh yeah
[19:39] <wkr4k4r> more like i dont care
[19:39] <kw> efnet has an #outside
[19:39] <kw> well.. if you don't care... then STOP WHINING ABOUT IT ALREADY
[19:39] <Ghaleon> what's outside efnet? why more efnet!
[19:39] <kw> hehe
[19:40] <wkr4k4r> im not whining
[19:41] <wkr4k4r> im just saying i would have won that episode
[19:41] <kw> and we're not gonna pretend to care
[19:41] <wkr4k4r> you shouldnt
[19:41] <wkr4k4r> a tard could have won
[19:42] <kw> ffs
[19:42] <kw> stfu already
[19:42] <kw> what you're saying is neither interesting nor relevant :-/
[19:42] <wkr4k4r> same to you
[19:42] <kw> we were talking about a SNL sketch called "celebrity jeopardy"
[19:43] <kw> and off you go on a 15 minute rant about how horrible the real program is
[19:43] <kw> I mean, jesus
[19:43] <kw> who cares
[19:43] <Ghaleon> jesus does?
[19:43] <Ghaleon> [19:43] <kw> I mean, jesus who cares
[19:44] <kw> heh
[19:44] <kw> perhaps
[19:44] <kw> I'm an atheist tho
[19:44] <shea> <jesus> i dunno.
[19:44] <kw> so that kinda makes jesus a guy that's been dead for 2000 years
[21:00] <shadrak> anyone in here use Visual C and opengl/glut?
[21:00] <shadrak> i cannot get any example code to compile...
[21:01] <bewl> what error message are you getting?
[21:07] <shadrak> anyone alive
[21:22] <shadrak> irc is so useless.
[21:27] * Ghaleon8D is now known as Ghaleon
[22:48] * Slade- is now known as Slade
[23:03] <tmpvar> Ghaleotronadingdong
[23:21] <Slade> tmpvar = nil
[23:21] <tmpvar> umm....
[23:21] <tmpvar> no
[23:21] <chandler-> tmpvar = god
[23:22] <tmpvar> :)
[23:22] <Slade> god = nil ?
[23:22] <Slade> tmpvat = god = nil ?
[23:22] <chandler-> lol
[23:22] <tmpvar> no, you are wrong :)
[23:22] <chandler-> WRONG
[23:22] <tmpvar> tmpvar.setStatus(MY_GOD);
[23:23] <Slade> #undef MY_GOD
[23:23] <tmpvar> #ifndef MY_GOD
[23:23] <tmpvar> #define SLADES_GOD 1
[23:24] <tmpvar> er...
[23:24] <Slade> fail!
[23:24] <tmpvar> #define MY_GOD SLADES_GOD
[23:24] <tmpvar> :P
[23:24] <tmpvar> i fail at things :(
[23:24] <Slade> clearly not god then.. unless you've never seen the movie Dogma
Session Close: Thu Jan 25 00:00:00 2007