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Session Start: Sat Jan 20 00:00:49 2007
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:00] * Now talking in #gamedev
[00:00] * Topic is '.:: Game Development ::. http://www.xnamagic.com'
[00:00] * Set by Dr_Rambo!Dr_Rambo@frost.d4.ru on Sun Jan 07 17:57:46
[00:00] -bleeding_- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones634. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners,
[00:04] <FMJaguar> Dazed, when you are in doubt, just remember that the answer is probably a
[00:06] <Dazed> lol good one
[00:10] <Dazed> I'm willing to learn it but I just can't find the information I need half the
[00:19] <kozmonaut> ghaelon here?
[00:23] <Dazed> I scared him off :)
[00:24] <honkykong> http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7713/3dkidscreen3ya.jpg
[00:25] <Dazed> cool
[00:27] <honkykong> 612 poly so far
[00:28] <honkykong> err that pick is subdivided twice tho so its actually shown at 2500 poly
[00:31] <Dazed> nice mesh
[01:15] <Dazed> Anyone know of a way to have multiple UV sets exported into a DirectX X file
[01:24] <Dazed> Does anyone know how to cause the X file exporter create separate subsets of
[01:26] <violator_> not I
[01:27] <Dazed> :(
[01:27] <Dazed> Well thanks for at least acknowledging my existence :)
[01:28] <violator_> nemas roplemas
[01:28] <violator_> there's some sort of conspiracy against me going on!
[01:28] <violator_> i'm still drunk and at work and ppl call me wanting things
[02:02] <Dr_Rambo> YO rangar mate
[02:02] <Dr_Rambo> sup
[02:02] <kozmonaut> hey rambo
[02:02] <Dr_Rambo> hey koz sup commrade
[02:03] <kozmonaut> not much just got a job at a gamedev company
[02:03] <Dr_Rambo> oh coool!
[02:03] <Dr_Rambo> congraz!
[02:03] <Dr_Rambo> what kinda job
[02:03] <Dr_Rambo> :)
[02:03] <kozmonaut> junior artist
[02:03] <Dr_Rambo> ah
[02:03] <kozmonaut> mainly pixel art
[02:04] <Dr_Rambo> ah
[02:04] <Dr_Rambo> you enjoying it?
[02:04] <kozmonaut> i start at the begining of feb
[02:06] <Dr_Rambo> ah ok
[02:06] <Scottc> good day
[02:06] <Scottc> good night
[02:09] <catilac> yo
[02:09] <catilac> i'm drunk, lets get serious
[02:17] <violator_> kozmonaut: have you got any portfolio or such online with pixelgfx?
[02:22] <kozmonaut> i do, but i dont randomly give it out! here is a screen tho of a battle
[02:24] <violator_> kozmonaut: some nice tiles :)
[02:25] <violator_> kozmonaut: looks pretty hires.. are those like 32x64 sprites=
[02:26] <kozmonaut> tiles are 32x32
[02:28] <violator_> ah
[02:28] <violator_> I'm at work and no zoom plugins or such installed sucks..
[02:28] <violator_> I've done alot of pixels.. mainly logos and fonts for demos/intros
[02:30] <kozmonaut> cool ill prob be doing lots of environmental and props i think
[02:30] <violator_> nice.. that's the fun stuff to do imho
[02:30] <violator_> I'm not good with sprites
[02:30] <kozmonaut> word, you know any good resource links, i gotta brush up some stuff
[02:31] <kozmonaut> ive been using graphics gale mostly
[02:31] <violator_> I use deluxe paint IIe, gfx2 and/or promotion
[02:31] <kozmonaut> need to figure out a way i can do really nice 16 color textures that are
[02:31] <violator_> promotion is ugly as hell but the functions for animation and such are go
[02:32] <kozmonaut> i guess just alphas
[02:32] <violator_> dunno.. I'd look at how to draw lighting and shadows I think
[02:33] <kozmonaut> cool i should browse some tuts, i just got the job today, and start feb 1
[02:37] <violator_> I took an artclass a year ago.. that really improve my skills and it was
[02:52] <insynwyn> each day i live
[02:52] <insynwyn> i want to b
[02:52] <insynwyn> a day to give
[02:52] <insynwyn> the best of me
[02:52] <insynwyn> i'm only one, but not alone
[02:52] <insynwyn> my finest day
[02:52] <insynwyn> is yet unknown
[02:52] <insynwyn> i broke my heart for every gain
[02:52] <insynwyn> to taste the sweet, i face the pain
[02:52] <insynwyn> i rise and fall yet through it all
[02:54] <violator_> i sleep in the hall
[04:15] <insynwyn> dood do ppl talk?
[04:18] <Dazed> hi lol
[04:20] <Fly_Guy> no you friggin newb
[04:21] <Fly_Guy> we don't talk
[04:30] <Squee-D> lol
[04:31] <Fly_Guy> I know I know... I came across a bit like doctor phil
[04:31] <Squee-D> I was gunna say that we're so cool we don't need to.. then realised, thats
[04:31] <Squee-D> oh shit.. now im not cool.
[04:32] <Squee-D> it
[04:32] <Squee-D> it's 1:30 am. i just woke up. i've slept nearly the entire day..
[04:33] <Squee-D> my game is suffering from chronic lack of attention.
[04:33] <Squee-D> has mess shown off his game at all yet?
[04:33] <Fly_Guy> lets just prettend you didn't say all that
[04:34] <Squee-D> am i still being uncool?
[04:34] <Fly_Guy> shhhhh
[04:34] <Fly_Guy> sleeep
[04:34] <Squee-D> lol
[05:02] <Squee-D> the nvidia sdk samples crash like crazy
[05:02] <Squee-D> very inspiring
[05:03] <Fly_Guy> geez you bitch about the smallest things
[05:03] <Squee-D> you bored bud?
[05:03] <Fly_Guy> no, but you must be
[05:03] <Squee-D> you've been sat there just dying for me to say something :)
[05:04] <Fly_Guy> that may or may not be true
[05:04] <Fly_Guy> I am playing EvE Online... What can I say
[05:04] <Squee-D> is it any good?
[05:05] <Fly_Guy> yes and no
[05:05] <Fly_Guy> I go between it and WoW these days
[05:06] <Squee-D> hmm im no fan of wow. probably because of the number of people in it. i dun
[05:07] <Fly_Guy> I have short stints that I like WoW
[05:07] <Fly_Guy> EvE makes you think of spreadsheets a lot
[05:07] <Fly_Guy> you can figure most of it out on one
[05:07] <Fly_Guy> there are a lot of things to consider when training, weapon loadouts stuff
[05:09] <Squee-D> well hopefully that will evolve. I mean my wife is a CoH/V master and she c
[05:09] <Squee-D> so for a casual gamer i might just get lost in the moment :)
[05:11] <Fly_Guy> I can't imagine any normal person liking CoH
[05:12] <Fly_Guy> she is married to you though
[05:12] <Fly_Guy> so hmmm
[05:12] <Squee-D> yeah whatever dude
[05:12] <Squee-D> normal i dont care about anyhoo
[05:13] <Fly_Guy> lol
[05:16] <Fly_Guy> you should get on your knees and thank god that finally there is a woman th
[05:16] <Squee-D> you're reaching dude :)
[05:18] <Fly_Guy> if you're a good boy, I will sneak you some pics so you know ahead of time
[05:20] <Squee-D> man i'd have to be pretty thick not to have worked that one out with the in
[05:21] <Fly_Guy> yeah her pix are all over the internet
[05:21] <Fly_Guy> kinda ruins the suprise for you though
[05:21] <Fly_Guy> don't search too hard
[05:21] <Squee-D> You ought to know, she is your mom after all
[05:22] <Fly_Guy> wow she is 70
[05:22] <Squee-D> i gots lube
[05:23] <Fly_Guy> I am totally sure you do
[05:24] <Squee-D> honkykong you about dude?
[05:24] * BlkStaff is now known as Narris
[05:24] <Fly_Guy> Why would he come up in a conversation about your lube.
[05:24] <Fly_Guy> hmmmm
[05:24] <Fly_Guy> I don't want to know
[05:24] <Squee-D> you know you do
[05:26] <Fly_Guy> somehow, I always knew
[05:26] <Fly_Guy> :)
[05:28] <Fly_Guy> ..I..
[05:32] <Fly_Guy> I never heard anything good about CoH. The game looks pretty neat in a way
[05:33] <Squee-D> I've never heard anything bad about it
[05:34] <Squee-D> I quite like it, but my wife can kick my arse so i always feel like a newb
[05:34] <Fly_Guy> well, you are
[05:35] <Squee-D> yes but i dont wanna feel like one
[05:35] <Fly_Guy> not a new
[05:35] <Fly_Guy> sorry.. broken line
[05:35] <Fly_Guy> oh then you admit it okie
[05:35] <Fly_Guy> yeah I know what you mean though
[05:36] <Fly_Guy> you ever thought about just telling her not to be good?
[05:36] <Fly_Guy> I mean.. you are the man
[05:37] <Fly_Guy> well, that is up to some debate though hmmm
[05:37] <Fly_Guy> I take it she plays like 100x more than you anywyas
[05:37] <Squee-D> easily
[05:38] <Squee-D> I'm just glad to be married to a gamer chick :)
[05:38] <ht7z> *I'm just glad not to be married
[05:39] <Fly_Guy> yeah gamer chix get all freeky
[05:55] * dvoid_ is away: ..off
[06:08] <honkykong> hey Squee-D dont feel bad
[06:08] <honkykong> just cause your wife wears teh vg testicles in your household
[06:08] <honkykong> thats kinda hot actually
[06:08] <honkykong> i wouldnt mind having a gf that was an even bigger vg nerd than me
[06:09] <Squee-D> i dont feel bad :)
[06:09] <Squee-D> honky i was poking around in the nvidia sdk samples
[06:09] <Squee-D> you see the accumulated snow sample?
[06:11] <honkykong> no sure didnt, sounds interesting though
[06:11] <honkykong> i was just thinking about setting up some particle stuff
[06:11] <honkykong> is it point sprite based?
[06:11] <Squee-D> you should take a look
[06:12] <Squee-D> no
[06:12] <honkykong> i bet, sounds interesting
[06:12] <Squee-D> its to show already acculated snow
[06:12] <Squee-D> its like a shadow map
[06:12] <Squee-D> but snow map instead
[06:12] <honkykong> ohhh
[06:12] <honkykong> hey thats a pretty neat idea
[06:12] <Squee-D> download the sdk
[06:12] <honkykong> yeah i should
[06:12] <Squee-D> theres heaps of inspiration anyway
[06:12] <honkykong> ever get em to ompile without crashing?
[06:12] <honkykong> yeah i been trying to gte cube mapped env mapping going
[06:13] <Squee-D> theyre pre-compiled, and all the gl ones crash when i exit :)
[06:13] <honkykong> with the cube mapped texture being rendered each frame
[06:13] <honkykong> its not really going so hot yet tho
[06:13] <honkykong> anyone ever do the flat plane mirror trick?
[06:13] <Squee-D> errr? rendering an inverse camera?
[06:13] <honkykong> cause i think my games pond would make an awesome application of that lil
[06:13] <honkykong> yeah pretty much
[06:14] <Squee-D> yeah
[06:14] <honkykong> then using that as a texture
[06:14] <Squee-D> i have
[06:14] <Squee-D> in gl, once upon a time
[06:14] <Squee-D> very easy to accomplish
[06:14] <honkykong> hows that work man? i try rendering to tex, then using that tex as env ma
[06:14] <Squee-D> i did a mirror
[06:14] <honkykong> i'm sure i'm just doing something wrong... i should find a good tut on it
[06:15] <honkykong> maybe i'm not doing that projective texturing thing right
[06:15] <Squee-D> so i didnt try to environment map it, i just drew it. and i had a square fr
[06:15] * _sgx is now known as sgx
[06:15] <honkykong> oh did you see the beginnings of my character mesh?
[06:15] <Squee-D> yeah
[06:15] <honkykong> i had a nice lil modelling session last night, he's got a kind cool flavo
[06:15] <Squee-D> i saw the kid in the game.
[06:15] <Squee-D> oh ok
[06:15] <Squee-D> lessee
[06:15] <honkykong> oh no that was just a lil standin
[06:15] <honkykong> i wripped that off from a q2 model
[06:16] <honkykong> http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7713/3dkidscreen3ya.jpg
[06:16] <Squee-D> omg! you skinned kenny!
[06:16] <honkykong> hehe
[06:16] <Squee-D> awesome
[06:16] <honkykong> mlOrph flomorg borph!
[06:16] <honkykong> heh
[06:16] <honkykong> yeah thats the 2500 poly version
[06:16] <Squee-D> oh yeah!? to you to! with knobs on!
[06:16] <honkykong> but it does realy good at 600 poly too
[06:17] <honkykong> i love box modelling
[06:17] <honkykong> i feel like its become second nature to me
[06:17] <honkykong> such a pita in 3dsmax though
[06:17] <honkykong> imo lightwave is the best box modeller out there
[06:17] <honkykong> hey was it you telling me to go with a wider fov in my game?
[06:18] <honkykong> cause i did and it definately helped
[06:18] <honkykong> whoever did, good suggestion, ty ty
[06:18] <Squee-D> man i like wings
[06:18] <Squee-D> and i hear SILO is better
[06:18] <Squee-D> nah sorry
[06:18] <Squee-D> i wasnt the cool one
[06:19] <honkykong> haha
[06:19] <honkykong> just going over some screeners here
[06:19] <honkykong> kinda funny how quick it progressed
[06:19] <Squee-D> dude you need to take a look at the nvidia sdk.. theres a nice sample of wa
[06:19] <Squee-D> yeah we're all pretty impressed
[06:19] <honkykong> from http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7713/3dkidscreen3ya.jpg
[06:19] <honkykong> to
[06:19] <Squee-D> yr hoosting along
[06:19] <honkykong> http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7713/3dkidscreen3ya.jpg
[06:19] <honkykong> in about a week
[06:20] <Squee-D> identical
[06:20] <honkykong> err
[06:20] <honkykong> http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7713/3dkidscreen3ya.jpg
[06:20] <honkykong> wtf
[06:20] <honkykong> still not it
[06:20] <Squee-D> lol
[06:20] <honkykong> why does ff hate me sometimes
[06:20] <honkykong> http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4140/screen14kg6.jpg
[06:20] <honkykong> its like ctrl-c just stops working
[06:21] <Squee-D> yah i get that in a few apps
[06:21] <honkykong> i think i'm gonna see how far i push the graphics of something like this
[06:21] <honkykong> hey got a url for that nvidia sdk handy?
[06:21] <honkykong> if not i'll google it up its cool
[06:22] <Squee-D> nvidia sdk in google takes you right there
[06:22] <honkykong> yep
[06:23] <honkykong> yeah man thanks i'll check taht out
[06:24] <honkykong> so what would yall say would be the easiest way to apply some prefab bone
[06:24] <honkykong> poser? milkshape? i dunno
[06:24] <Squee-D> doesnt max have character studio?
[06:24] <honkykong> it does
[06:24] <honkykong> maybe thats the way to go
[06:25] <honkykong> trying to find prefab motions to more or less just apply
[06:25] <honkykong> anyone got any, know of the best proggy to apply them in? is it char stud
[06:25] * Squee-D shrugs
[06:25] <honkykong> i figure i'd have to setup a compatible bone structure but thats not such
[06:25] <honkykong> i should just finish my 3d vr glove and that sorta crap
[06:26] <honkykong> make my own motion encoding apparatus :)
[06:43] <aav> :D
[06:50] <directhex> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/the-wii-laptop/
[10:13] <shea> stop it
[10:38] * Kukyona|A is now known as Kukyona
[10:54] <Ghaleon> wut wut iz it
[11:04] <Dr_Rambo> The first of fallen, the spoiler of virgins, the master of abortions!
[11:10] <sort> what
[11:21] <mrchris> the ronco home abortionater
[11:30] * Slade kicks shea
[11:31] <shea> hang on my wifi bridge is retarded
[11:31] <shea> i reset its memory accidentally (so i guess i am retarded too)
[11:31] <shea> now it connected to some random cablemodem
[11:31] <shea> brb
[11:56] <tm__> anyone using glpng with VC++ 8?
[12:05] <shea> yay fixed my stupid bridge
[13:19] <kozmonaut> sup all
[13:23] <FMJaguar> hi
[13:23] <PitDroid> privet, FMJaguar
[13:23] <FMJaguar> i hate games
[13:25] <FMJaguar> kermit does too
[13:25] <FMJaguar> thats how he expresses it
[13:29] * BlkStaff is now known as Narris
[13:56] * BlkStaff is now known as Narris
[14:17] <directhex> u betta crc urself
[14:31] <directhex> 8D
[14:36] * Ghaleon8D is now known as Ghaleon
[14:38] <mrchris> befo you #wreck yoself
[17:27] <chandler9> what am i supposed to do in wutai
[17:31] <Ghaleon8D> learn shaolin wudan sword
[17:31] * Ghaleon8D is now known as Ghaleon
[17:32] <chandler9> wtf i went all the way to wutai for nothing
[17:32] <chandler9> i forget ff7
[17:32] <Ghaleon> ohj
[17:32] <Ghaleon> hehe
[17:33] <Ghaleon> gamefaqz dewd
[17:34] <Ghaleon> does ur FF7 glitch out a bunch?
[17:44] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[17:45] <Ghaleon> Hullo
[17:45] <[Relic]> :)
[17:46] <Ghaleon> what's [Relic] up to dis weekend?
[17:47] <chandler9> no glitch d00d
[17:47] <chandler9> pure pwn
[17:47] <Ghaleon> like da stuff was flashy fer meez
[17:47] <Ghaleon> da namez in battle and whatnot
[17:48] <[Relic]> hopefully my latest rendering :)
[17:50] <chandler9> oic ghaleon
[17:50] <chandler9> i dunno
[17:50] <chandler9> i used dark alex 3.02 oe-b
[17:50] <Ghaleon> ohj
[17:50] <Ghaleon> I have 3.03 oe-b
[17:50] <Ghaleon> comprezzion FTW
[17:50] <chandler9> i now use 3.03 oe-b actually
[17:50] <chandler9> i dont get the fight swooshes anymore
[17:50] <Ghaleon> =[
[17:50] <chandler9> the transition from world map to battle
[17:50] <[Relic]> http://www.esnips.com/web/Blends/ <- 26 the basics are finished, now
[17:50] <Ghaleon> yah
[17:50] <Ghaleon> who needs em
[17:50] <chandler9> yea
[17:51] <Ghaleon> FF7 disc 1 is like 500MB vs 730
[17:51] <chandler9> im trying to find temple of ancients to kill aeriz
[17:51] <Ghaleon> huhu
[17:51] <chandler9> my ff7 disc 2 was big
[17:51] <chandler9> disc 1*
[17:51] <Ghaleon> how beeg?
[17:52] <Ghaleon> I just ripped and comprezzed my own
[17:52] <Ghaleon> had to find a rippah
[17:52] <chandler9> i'll check later it was like 700
[17:52] <chandler9> oic
[17:52] <Ghaleon> yeah
[17:52] <Ghaleon> I downloaded one
[17:52] <Ghaleon> but they are uncompressed
[17:52] <Ghaleon> so I am making my own now
[17:52] <Ghaleon> [Relic] has too much fun with rendering
[17:53] <Ghaleon> my stuff doesn't flash as much now
[17:53] <Ghaleon> them internets images are bunk
[17:54] <[Relic]> :)
[17:54] <chandler9> what
[17:54] <chandler9> i got mine from the internet
[17:54] <Ghaleon> I got my OG one from there
[17:55] <Ghaleon> but I have the game, so I ripped it and encoded it myself
[17:55] <Ghaleon> and it plays betta
[17:55] <Ghaleon> = fricken intarwebs tubes
[17:55] <Ghaleon> and it's 500MB
[17:57] <Squee-D> was x-2 any good?
[17:57] <Ghaleon> tha game?
[17:57] <Squee-D> yah
[17:57] <Squee-D> ffX-2
[17:57] <Ghaleon> never pwayed it
[17:57] <Ghaleon> ohj
[17:57] <Ghaleon> no
[17:57] <Squee-D> did you like FFX?
[17:57] <Ghaleon> I mean... maybe if you like Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle
[17:57] <Ghaleon> no
[17:58] <Squee-D> right i see, so i may still like it :)
[17:58] <Ghaleon> you might still not
[17:58] <Squee-D> true
[17:58] <Ghaleon> it's only about the gerls
[17:58] <Squee-D> dude its jap, even the boys are girls
[17:58] <Ghaleon> huhu
[17:58] <Ghaleon> which is why I didn't play FFX ;)
[17:58] <Ghaleon> too ghey
[17:58] <Squee-D> hehe
[17:59] <Ghaleon> http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasyx2/review.html?om_act=convert&o
[17:59] <Ghaleon> but seriouzly
[17:59] <Ghaleon> FFX-2 is just like Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle
[17:59] <Squee-D> like the movie?
[17:59] <Ghaleon> yez
[18:01] <chandler9> like the lame
[18:19] <aav> http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/20/2243230
[18:20] <aav> i can imagine RMS in 2013 arguing it's "GNU/NASA"
[18:20] <Ghaleon> huhu
[18:20] <aav> hey Ghaleon
[18:20] <aav> sups
[18:20] <Ghaleon> slaqn
[18:21] <aav> nice
[18:21] <aav> and lol, http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/20/microsoft-windows-vista-ultimate-li
[18:22] <Ghaleon> hawt
[18:22] <aav> who'd buy that in the first place.. and then have it on display
[18:23] <aav> brain boggling
[18:23] <Ghaleon> ebay sellers
[18:23] <aav> heh
[18:23] <aav> bad ebay sellers
[18:24] <chandler9> im playing the super dunk game in ff7
[18:24] <chandler9> for like an hour
[18:24] <chandler9> it makes me mso mad
[18:24] <chandler9> so mad
[18:24] <Ghaleon> werd
[18:24] <chandler9> im trying to get 300 gp
[18:24] <chandler9> anyways
[18:24] <Ghaleon> white chandler9s can't jump
[18:24] <chandler9> sup wif u
[18:24] <chandler9> indiana jones
[18:24] <chandler9> i mean
[18:24] <chandler9> ghaleon
[18:25] <Ghaleon> Grimdiana Bonez
[18:25] <aav> ghaleon->Disable( GH_WIGGA_MODE );
[18:25] <aav> :)
[18:25] <Ghaleon> wutwut
[18:25] <Ghaleon> hacker plz
[18:26] <aav> oh
[18:26] <Ghaleon> don't hate the playa, hate da game
[18:26] <aav> wicker?
[18:26] <aav> wacker?
[18:26] <Ghaleon> wicker baskets are Butcher's forte
[18:26] <aav> ah :P
[18:31] <chandler9> i wasted 6000 gil on this game
[18:33] <Ghaleon> bahahaha
[18:33] <Ghaleon> do you pway da strategy game?
[18:33] <Ghaleon> I burned like 90K on that
[18:37] <Ghaleon> I am a habitual leveler
[18:37] <Ghaleon> so I end up with gobs of monays
[18:37] <kw_> im a habitual line-stepper
[18:38] * Ghaleon prepares to test fire his rail gun at kw_
[18:39] <chandler9> lol
[18:40] <kw_> never saw the Rick James bit I guess? :(
[18:40] <Ghaleon> :O
[18:41] * Ghaleon slaps kw_
[18:41] <Ghaleon> IM RICK JAMEZ, BIOTCH
[18:42] <Ghaleon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBa9wdOANHw
[18:42] <Ghaleon> jebuz
[18:48] <kw_> hawt
[19:07] <chandler9> funny how aeris has a date with cloud
[19:08] <chandler9> right b4 she gets holed
[19:17] <ScratXP> fuck are you talking about
[19:18] <kozmonaut> noopz
[20:34] <aav> whole lot of splittin' going on
[20:37] * Dr_Rambo does a split
[20:37] <Dr_Rambo> hammer time!
[20:38] <Dr_Rambo> thought you should be slept by now LOL don't u ever sleep aav?
[20:38] <Dr_Rambo> isn't it like ..5 or 6 AM in EU?
[20:38] <aav> ugh
[20:38] <aav> you're right
[20:38] <aav> :P
[20:39] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[20:39] <Dr_Rambo> do u have insomania?
[20:41] * Squee-D had somnia yesterday, ubersomnia
[20:41] <Squee-D> bout time too
[20:41] <Squee-D> hows it bimbo
[20:42] <Squee-D> am i missing any good tennis?
[20:43] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[20:43] <Dr_Rambo> yeh
[20:43] <Squee-D> :/
[20:44] <Dr_Rambo> this new guy dunno the name is beating Roddick
[20:44] <Squee-D> i need one f those horrible high gain indoor antennas
[20:44] <Squee-D> Roddick needs an occasional beating
[20:44] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[20:44] <Squee-D> ty sir
[20:44] <Dr_Rambo> gawd, so hawt
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> think I might had to art gallery or something
[20:45] <Squee-D> why thanks :)
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> head
[20:45] * Squee-D bats his eyelids
[20:45] <Squee-D> oh the weather?
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> np squeed
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:45] <Squee-D> :/
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> yeh weather, nOT you
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:46] <Dr_Rambo> what's the temperature there squeed
[20:46] <Squee-D> ok so im about to do something that MAY be nasty.. collission detection bet
[20:46] <Squee-D> its quite mild today dude
[20:46] <Squee-D> it normally is in fact, the only thing that makes it seem hot is the humidi
[20:47] <Squee-D> hows this sound, i RTT the alpha of the tiles as i render them to screen.
[20:47] <Dr_Rambo> RTT?
[20:47] <Squee-D> render to texture
[20:48] <Squee-D> and i pass the alpha texture back in to the shader for my ship.
[20:48] <Dr_Rambo> how do u collide texture to geometry?
[20:49] <Dr_Rambo> I still don't quite get it
[20:49] <Dr_Rambo> unless u proprocessed the texture maybe, like making the outline of textur
[20:49] <Squee-D> in the pixel shader for my ship, if the texCoord matches any alpha > 0 t
[20:49] <Squee-D> and check for red in my game
[20:50] <Squee-D> the texture is an RTT
[20:50] <Dr_Rambo> ah ok
[20:50] <Squee-D> meaning its generated the same way whats on screen is rendered
[20:50] <Dr_Rambo> ok got u
[20:50] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[20:51] <Dr_Rambo> u doing a side scroller right?
[20:51] <Squee-D> yeah
[20:51] <Dr_Rambo> not a top down scroller
[20:51] <Squee-D> its still top down
[20:51] <Squee-D> lol
[20:51] <Dr_Rambo> ?
[20:51] <Squee-D> it is top down scrolling left
[20:51] <Dr_Rambo> whaaa?
[20:51] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:51] <Squee-D> no wait
[20:51] <Dr_Rambo> is it like R-TYPE or is it like Warning forever
[20:51] <Squee-D> i think its that coz my model is so dumb
[20:52] <Squee-D> its like rtype
[20:52] <Squee-D> forget me
[20:52] <Dr_Rambo> so, side scroller
[20:52] <Squee-D> i had to spin my model on its side (thus looking top down), plus my tiles d
[20:52] <Dr_Rambo> oh haha
[20:53] <Squee-D> im giving some serious thought to making the 'tiles' 3d as well
[20:53] <Dr_Rambo> why not
[20:53] <Squee-D> well its a lot more work :)
[20:53] <Dr_Rambo> use a modular design
[20:53] <Squee-D> which is more code
[20:53] <Squee-D> hello
[20:53] <Squee-D> :)
[20:53] <Dr_Rambo> make some designed element... and just assemble them
[20:53] <Squee-D> yeah i worked that bit out :)
[20:54] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[20:54] <Squee-D> remembering i suck the dead donkey at modelling
[20:54] <Squee-D> tiles i can draw
[20:54] <Squee-D> 8 bitalicious
[20:55] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[20:55] <Dr_Rambo> alright, going to head out now
[20:55] <Squee-D> http://xna64.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/windowslivewriterxanaduwip-14961wi
[20:55] <Dr_Rambo> I can't stand this weather anymore
[20:55] <Squee-D> dude buy an air con
[20:56] <Dr_Rambo> I am too cheap
[20:56] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:56] <Dr_Rambo> that, is one weird perspective
[20:56] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:56] <Dr_Rambo> side top down scroller
[20:56] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:56] <Squee-D> its delta :P
[20:56] <Squee-D> it tended to look a bit screwy like that
[20:57] <Squee-D> im honestly bored of this project.
[20:57] <Squee-D> i need to get my arse into gear
[20:57] <Dr_Rambo> u need good pixel art
[20:57] <Squee-D> oi!
[20:57] <Dr_Rambo> to get your project into gear
[20:57] <Squee-D> my pixel art ftw!
[20:57] <Dr_Rambo> ask Kozmoanut
[20:57] <Dr_Rambo> he is very good pixel artist
[20:57] <Dr_Rambo> see if he is interested
[20:58] <Dr_Rambo> for a collaboration
[20:58] <Squee-D> i need a cheap collision mechanism is what i need
[20:58] <Squee-D> im too newb to get anyone involved just yet
[20:58] <Dr_Rambo> why not just trace the outline of your level
[20:58] <Dr_Rambo> 3D plane.. traced
[20:58] <Dr_Rambo> along the outline of your level
[20:58] <Squee-D> hardly need it traced
[20:58] <Dr_Rambo> so, 3D collision all around
[20:58] <Dr_Rambo> cheaper for u to implement the code
[20:59] <Squee-D> not sure im with ya
[20:59] <Dr_Rambo> then do it 2 way process, process it in pixel shader, then colliding in 3D
[20:59] <Dr_Rambo> well.
[20:59] <Squee-D> i got the tilemap in 2d as a screen coord texture
[20:59] <Dr_Rambo> basically, you have the pixel background the same right? except it is on a
[20:59] <Dr_Rambo> with boarder tracing the border of your original pixel background
[21:00] <Dr_Rambo> like a background plate of the staged play
[21:00] <Squee-D> when i render the ship and bullts (only things that collides with the envir
[21:00] <Dr_Rambo> ah
[21:00] <Dr_Rambo> ok
[21:00] <Squee-D> but i have to get the collision details back out of the vs
[21:00] <Dr_Rambo> I got u. you do collision at RTT level
[21:01] <Dr_Rambo> well, can u do that at RTT level
[21:01] <Squee-D> to me it seams easiest, but im not sure if its such a good idea
[21:01] <Squee-D> so i was asking for the input of more accomplished devs :)
[21:01] <Dr_Rambo> ah
[21:01] * Squee-D hugs Dr_Rambo
[21:01] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[21:01] <Squee-D> Not meaning anything by it you see.
[21:01] <Dr_Rambo> don't ask me I am not even a coder
[21:01] <Squee-D> yeah
[21:01] <Squee-D> i know, it was a subtle hint
[21:01] <Dr_Rambo> I just know a bit about the concept of it all
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> don't worry, none taken
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> Burga should be here
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> he probably would know
[21:02] <Burga> what?
[21:02] <Squee-D> go sit in a air conditioned environment for a bit
[21:02] <Squee-D> lo
[21:02] <Squee-D> lol
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> but seeing he is probably as poor as me, he is probably hidee
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> oh he is here
[21:02] <Burga> ;)
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> maybe he is got an aircon
[21:02] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[21:03] <Burga> I'm always here... >:)
[21:03] <Squee-D> http://xna64.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/windowslivewriterxanaduwip-14961wi
[21:03] <Squee-D> i was thinking that testing ship and bullet collision with environment tile
[21:04] <Squee-D> RTT an alpha channel for the tiles
[21:04] <Squee-D> as they render that is.
[21:04] <Squee-D> then pass that to the shader for the ship.
[21:05] <Squee-D> if the ship pixelshader matches up the 2d pos with a texel from the rtt tha
[21:05] <Squee-D> store this little bit of info in a small rtt.
[21:05] <Squee-D> is that rediculous?
[21:23] <kazhirai> entheh you little pedo get your fanny out here
[21:23] <mcdsbegge> he's not here
[21:24] <kazhirai> ARG A PEDO HE BE
[21:24] <kazhirai> MAKE HIM WALK THE PLANK ARRRRRRR
[21:24] <mcdsbegge> entheh is at large stalking a little girl
[21:24] <mcdsbegge> have you seen this girl?
[21:24] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:24] <mcdsbegge> her name is mio
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> anyone ask entheh next you see him and show that
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> he'll know what you're talking about ;)
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:25] <mcdsbegge> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entheh1cx.jpg
[21:30] <ScratXP> the fuck?
[22:14] <temp1> hey
[22:15] <temp1> anyone still think the PS3 is going to outsell the XBox360?
[22:15] <jAgx> no.
[22:15] <jAgx> the ps3 is poop.
[22:16] <Ghaleon> lawl
[22:16] <Ghaleon> pewp sewage three
[22:16] <temp1> I remember folks telling me the PS3 is going to win this generation
[22:16] <shea> http://knytt.ni2.se/
[22:16] <shea> ^ good indy game
[22:16] <Ghaleon> temp1: them folks was hopped up on craq
[22:16] <shea> just beat it (1.5 hours or so)
[22:17] <temp1> does anyone here have a 360?
[22:19] <Ghaleon> I does
[22:19] <Ghaleon> 10 million other peeps do
[22:19] <Ghaleon> Gears Of War hit the 3 million mark, that's 2.5 million more than PS3's sol
[22:20] <Ghaleon> ;D
[22:20] <chandler9> i got red lights on mine
[22:20] <chandler9> i gotta exchange
[22:20] <Ghaleon> :O
[22:20] <chandler9> :[
[22:20] <Ghaleon> red lytez of deaf
[22:20] <chandler9> lamesauce
[22:20] <temp1> Ghaleon: Do you have a wii too?
[22:20] <temp1> anyone here have a wii?
[22:20] <kozmonaut> sup ghals
[22:20] <Ghaleon> I does have a Wii
[22:20] <catilac> I like to pretend that I have a wii
[22:20] <Ghaleon> but I had to get it through sekret konnections
[22:21] <Ghaleon> kozmonautix
[22:21] <temp1> cool
[22:21] <kozmonaut> ghal i ended up getting that jorb
[22:21] <Ghaleon> Wii are hard to fynde
[22:21] <Ghaleon> kewl kozmo
[22:21] <chandler9> what job
[22:21] <Ghaleon> you makes teh arts for teh peeps?
[22:21] * catilac is going to go play his wii
[22:21] <kozmonaut> I will be working on a DS and Wii title!
[22:22] <kozmonaut> im a junior artist
[22:22] <temp1> kozmonaut: Cool...are ya in the bay area?
[22:22] <kozmonaut> vancouver
[22:22] <temp1> oh, darn
[22:23] <temp1> was going to tell you about the game dev meetup in San Francisco
[22:23] <kozmonaut> doh, too bad!
[22:23] <temp1> they might have one in Vancouver
[22:23] <Ghaleon> temp1: basically if Sony had delivered all their promises, then they'd prob
[22:23] <temp1> www.meetup.com
[22:23] <Squee-D> gratz koz
[22:23] <kozmonaut> thanks man
[22:23] <temp1> Ghal: Yeah, it is about execution
[22:23] <Ghaleon> www.kozpartay.com
[22:23] <kozmonaut> finaly after all my mmo stuff and the freelance stuff and going to art sc
[22:23] <temp1> Ghal: And....guess what, AT&T Might be using XBox 360 as their set-top box
[22:24] <temp1> since it handles IPTV
[22:24] <Ghaleon> :O
[22:24] <temp1> and....folks will get 360 for free if sign a long-term contract
[22:24] <temp1> if they do that....other systems may be in big trouble
[22:24] <shea> ps4 will be a quantum console
[22:24] <temp1> I don't think there will be a PS4
[22:24] <shea> sony will release it, then promise it will be the most powerful system on the
[22:25] <temp1> now that my opinion matters on the subject :)
[22:25] <Ghaleon> quite a few analysts speculate there will be no PS4
[22:25] <chandler9> it will run on mako energy
[22:25] <Ghaleon> no no
[22:25] <Ultyma> your anal
[22:25] <Ghaleon> it will run on soilent green
[22:25] <temp1> Ghal: I think it's cuz it seems like Sony may go bankrupt
[22:25] <Ultyma> lol
[22:25] <shea> with all the money sony entertainment is hemorrhaging?
[22:25] <shea> i wouldn't be surprised
[22:25] <Ghaleon> 360 is powered by Sharkos
[22:25] <temp1> well, it comes down to the fact that if the lose PS3
[22:26] <temp1> and then what else do they have? They do have a lot of content properties...b
[22:26] <shea> they pulled a sega
[22:26] <shea> they went from genesis to saturn
[22:26] <temp1> shea: Yeah, but I heard Genesis and Dreamcast/Saturn were good
[22:26] <Ghaleon> no wei
[22:26] <Ghaleon> Saturn was awezome
[22:26] <shea> ps3 is good if you look at it like a chunk of hardware. kinda.
[22:26] <Ghaleon> they more pulled a 32X
[22:26] <temp1> Ghal: And it still failed
[22:26] <shea> saturn was just, wrong system at the wrong time
[22:26] <Ghaleon> no, Saturn did awesome, just not in the states
[22:26] <temp1> The thing is....MS made features that really redefine the notion of a console
[22:26] <Ghaleon> it pwnd da Japaneses
[22:26] <temp1> with the "live" system, IPTV, etc.
[22:27] <temp1> Ghal: Oh, didn't konw what
[22:27] <shea> saturn got pwnzored by psx
[22:27] <temp1> know
[22:27] <Squee-D> and nintendo just made theirs extremely fun
[22:27] <shea> saturn: 2D monster. psx: 3d monkey
[22:27] <shea> 3d won out
[22:27] <shea> well, of course, n64 should have won
[22:27] <Ghaleon> not exactly
[22:27] <shea> but cd-rom and all, yeah.
[22:27] <Ghaleon> Saturn DOA > PSX DOA
[22:27] <shea> lolz
[22:27] <shea> i suppose
[22:28] <chandler9> who bought a psx
[22:28] <chandler9> i dont understand
[22:28] <shea> like everyone
[22:28] <chandler9> like before ff7
[22:28] <chandler9> it had a gay libray
[22:28] <Ghaleon> PSX only became popular because of DDR
[22:28] <shea> everyone was sold on crash, twisted metal, etc
[22:28] <chandler9> yea i guess
[22:28] <chandler9> ridge racer
[22:28] <Ghaleon> riiiiiiiiiiidge racer!
[22:29] <chandler9> yep
[22:29] <kozmonaut> someone toss me some sweet pixel art resource links with lighting and sha
[22:29] <Ghaleon> too bad everybody has Ridge Racer now
[22:29] <Ghaleon> maybe it would have saved Sony ;)
[22:29] <shea> anyway jaguar 4ever
[22:29] <chandler9> i like that jaguar controller
[22:29] <Ghaleon> shaguar
[22:29] <chandler9> that had a ton of buttons
[22:29] <Ghaleon> a button for each game
[22:29] <shea> i lost every single button overlay
[22:29] <shea> :(
[22:29] <directhex> haha
[22:30] <directhex> xb1 s-type for lyfe
[22:30] <shea> i wish games still did that
[22:30] <shea> open up the box and get an overlay for your controller
[22:30] <shea> it was like, bonus!
[22:30] <chandler9> i liked 360 better than xbox1 stype
[22:30] <Ghaleon> XB1 duke 4 pwnzin newbz like directhex
[22:30] <chandler9> a lot better
[22:30] <chandler9> shea oh i c now i didnt know about overlays
[22:30] <chandler9> that controller makes more sense now
[22:30] <shea> well it was still really odd
[22:30] <shea> heh
[22:31] <Ghaleon> 360 controller is pretty gud
[22:31] <shea> but yeah
[22:31] <chandler9> i thought games were like press b4 like battleship
[22:31] <Ghaleon> except the d-pad and no 6 buttan layout
[22:31] <shea> haha :)
[22:31] <Ghaleon> need joystix
[22:31] <shea> no it was like
[22:31] <shea> buttons to switch weapons
[22:31] <shea> or cameras
[22:31] <shea> etc
[22:31] <shea> it made cheat codes a bitch though
[22:32] <directhex> i'd rather have 2 wired controllers than that wireless stick for 360 prem
[22:32] <shea> cheat code for all weapons in AvP: (if i remember after all these years)
[22:32] <shea> pause, option, 6, 1+3, b, a, 9, a, 9, a, *, option, #, *, *, option, 2, option
[22:32] <shea> pretty sure that's right :<
[22:32] <directhex> how is the lag/missed input on that G?
[22:32] <Ghaleon> wireless stick?
[22:33] <Ghaleon> I don't have a 360 stick
[22:33] <chandler9> whats a 360 stick
[22:33] <directhex> controller
[22:33] <chandler9> no lag
[22:33] <Ghaleon> the controllers have -10ms lag
[22:33] <Ghaleon> negativez
[22:33] <shea> osnap
[22:33] <chandler9> dood i am like uber pro at CSS
[22:33] <chandler9> my wireless mouse is teh awesome
[22:33] <chandler9> i notice no difference
[22:33] <Ghaleon> lag is for wirenewbs
[22:34] <directhex> pfft
[22:34] <directhex> i got a wireless for xb1, and it sucks
[22:34] <chandler9> well i dunno
[22:34] <shea> wireless shouldn't be laggy
[22:34] <directhex> works ok as xbmc remote
[22:34] <shea> not more than like
[22:35] <shea> 0.5ms
[22:35] <shea> anyway
[22:35] <shea> :\
[22:35] <Ghaleon> it's seriouzly -10ms on 360
[22:35] <shea> o
[22:35] <Ghaleon> huhu
[22:35] <Ghaleon> I mean, if you keep your microwave next to your 360, there might be connect
[22:35] <temp1> some folks say that PS3 will win when price comes down
[22:35] <shea> black beans + sam adams = not so great
[22:35] <chandler9> i never realized how bad psp is when i went to 360 right after
[22:36] <chandler9> but psp is still AAA i love it
[22:36] <Ghaleon> temp1: that'd only create a bigger debt for Sony... they lose like $300 as
[22:36] <shea> temp1: the only thing it has going for it is the fact that it's a blu-ray play
[22:36] <temp1> Chandler: You like PSP over DS?
[22:36] <temp1> shea: Yeah, but who really needs blue-ray
[22:36] <chandler9> i like both equally
[22:36] <shea> but the ps3 online offerings are weeaaakk
[22:36] <temp1> blu-ray :)
[22:36] <Ghaleon> it's blow-ray-day at Sony
[22:36] <chandler9> maybe psp a bit more
[22:36] <chandler9> the buttons are a bit close on the ds lite
[22:37] <Ghaleon> I h8 the smallness of the DS Lite
[22:37] <Ghaleon> but the screen is gud
[22:37] <chandler9> u r biased
[22:37] <chandler9> from your coworkers madness
[22:37] <Ghaleon> I kind of want to mod my DS Brick with DS Lite screens
[22:37] <Ghaleon> negatories
[22:37] <Ghaleon> I am big handed
[22:37] <chandler9> lol
[22:37] <chandler9> they say big hands = big
[22:37] <Ghaleon> and the smallness of the Lite gives me painz
[22:37] <chandler9> hair
[22:38] <chandler9> its ok if i only need two buttons
[22:38] <chandler9> but yea if i need all 4 like megaman or something
[22:38] <Ghaleon> or if you need all 6
[22:38] <chandler9> no gud
[22:38] <Ghaleon> like all the games I pway
[22:38] <chandler9> my ds lite hinge broke lol
[22:38] <Ghaleon> yep
[22:38] <chandler9> but nintendo will replace i hope
[22:38] <Ghaleon> common problem
[22:39] <chandler9> ya like really wtf
[22:39] <chandler9> one hinge
[22:39] <Ghaleon> you opened it too far too hard
[22:39] <chandler9> i thought there was 2
[22:39] <chandler9> lies
[22:39] <Ghaleon> DS Brick is built like a tank
[22:39] <chandler9> i am delicate
[22:39] <Ghaleon> DS Lite is a school girl
[22:39] <Ghaleon> my wife has a Lite
[22:39] <chandler9> i think there shouldve been 2 hinges
[22:39] <shea> ok bed time
[22:39] <chandler9> nite shea
[22:40] <Ghaleon> 2 hinges made of adamantium
[22:40] * Ghaleon shoots shea up with caffiene
[22:40] <temp1> later shea
[22:40] <temp1> Ghal: Does your wife like the lite a lot?
[22:40] <Ghaleon> yes
[22:41] <Ghaleon> she <3 Loco Roco too tho
[22:41] <Ghaleon> http://www.derekyu.com/avgpa/gallery.html
[22:41] <Ghaleon> lawlz
[22:42] <temp1> k, I have a game
[22:42] <temp1> need beta testing
[22:42] <temp1> who wants to volunteer :)
[22:42] <temp1> www.jrtown.com/jrartist/main.php
[22:43] <Squee-D> you got a guest login?
[22:45] <temp1> can you create an account
[22:45] <temp1> it can be fake
[22:45] <temp1> no biggie
[22:45] <temp1> there is no e-mail to activate
[22:45] <temp1> want to test out account creation cuz notice that sometimes get a wrong entry
[22:46] <temp1> wonder if it's cuz of account creation
[22:46] <Squee-D> nan, lol
[22:48] <temp1> did you get an error?
[22:49] <Squee-D> i saw nan on your preloaded
[22:49] <Squee-D> r
[22:49] <temp1> oh
[22:49] <temp1> ok
[22:49] <Squee-D> movieClipLoader ftw
[22:50] <Squee-D> you need to let that color picker update while the mouse is down.
[22:50] <Squee-D> Special art machine eh :)
[22:50] <Ghaleon> temp1: I made u a wang
[22:51] <Squee-D> i have a doggy going poopie
[22:52] <temp1> ok, cool...so no errors?
[22:52] <Squee-D> seems ok
[22:52] <temp1> when uploading
[22:52] <temp1> and going back to your page
[22:52] <Squee-D> took a while
[22:52] <temp1> to see it
[22:52] <temp1> yeah
[22:52] <temp1> this is for kids
[22:52] <Squee-D> it finished progress
[22:52] <Squee-D> and then i waited with it kinda hung
[22:53] <temp1> yeah, I should correlate the progress bar with the change
[22:53] <Squee-D> i did a t-shirt app long long time ago in the same way
[22:53] <temp1> that progress bar is for only part of the upload thing
[22:53] <temp1> cool, did you have any user issues?
[22:53] <temp1> Cuz here....it seems like kids do like 2-3 pictures and then quit
[22:53] <Squee-D> no just employer issues
[22:53] <temp1> I'm going to change a few things and see if that helps
[22:53] <Squee-D> ours wasnt for kids.
[22:53] <temp1> employer issues? Anything you learned that could help me for my app?
[22:54] <Squee-D> god damn the thing still opens
[22:54] <Squee-D> it was written in flash 5 :)
[22:55] <temp1> wow
[22:55] <temp1> was it slow?
[22:55] <Squee-D> still is :)
[22:55] <temp1> yeah, flash has come a ways
[22:55] <Squee-D> http://www.99dogs.com
[22:55] <Squee-D> design a shirt top left
[22:55] <Squee-D> watch out for popups, it uses them to get around no file upload
[22:56] <Squee-D> cant believe theyre still using the exact same code
[22:56] <Squee-D> which they never fully paid me for
[22:58] <temp1> yeah
[22:58] <temp1> yeah, I'm going to do a few things to improve the app
[22:58] <temp1> 1) Allow folks to upload their own picture and add items to their own picture
[22:58] <temp1> 2) Update that progress bar so it doesn't go away....it'll stay at 90% until
[22:59] <ScratXP> 3) provide linkes to my private stash of gay porn
[22:59] <Squee-D> we dont wanna see your gay porn scrat
[22:59] <temp1> btw, when you went back to see image you created...did it show in your page?
[22:59] <Squee-D> yup
[22:59] <Ghaleon> yes
[23:00] <ScratXP> temp1, is 99dogs your site
[23:01] <temp1> ScratXP: Nope...I think it is Squees
[23:01] <Squee-D> nah i just did the flash thing ever so long ago
[23:01] <chandler9> i want to do flash
[23:01] <Squee-D> im thinking in 2000 or 99
[23:01] <temp1> chandler: Have you done any?
[23:01] <temp1> Squee: Seems like that site is busy
[23:02] <temp1> it has a PR of 6
[23:02] <chandler9> i did like a simple game in actionscript3 yea
[23:02] <temp1> AS 3.0
[23:02] <Squee-D> as3 is so much cleaner
[23:02] <temp1> man
[23:02] <temp1> what version of flash allows AS 3?
[23:02] <Squee-D> much better dom
[23:02] <chandler9> 9
[23:02] <temp1> I have flash 8
[23:02] <Squee-D> none
[23:02] <Squee-D> flex 2 does
[23:02] <chandler9> upgrading to 9 is so fast tho
[23:02] <temp1> when did they sell Flash 9?
[23:02] <Squee-D> flash 9 ide isnt released yet
[23:02] <chandler9> yeah flex 2
[23:02] <Squee-D> just the player
[23:02] <chandler9> not flash 9 sorry
[23:02] <temp1> oh, so how can you do AS 3 coding?
[23:02] <Squee-D> you dont need the IDE tho seriously
[23:03] <Squee-D> Flashdevlop + flex 2 sdk
[23:03] <temp1> oh
[23:03] <chandler9> yeah i did that for a bit
[23:03] <Squee-D> you can use flex builder (which costs) or use flashdevelop
[23:03] <chandler9> im on a trial of flex builder 2
[23:03] <chandler9> it uses eclipse
[23:03] <temp1> you mean, you don't even need Adobe Flash to make flash?
[23:03] <Squee-D> im not a huge fan of mxml, its got its purposes, but games isnt really it.
[23:03] <Squee-D> temp1 nope
[23:03] <Squee-D> havent for a while
[23:03] <temp1> wtf
[23:03] <Squee-D> its just generally easier
[23:03] <temp1> I bought flash
[23:03] <chandler9> yea you can code programs with just code
[23:04] <Squee-D> its a good place to start believe me
[23:04] <chandler9> and put pics using bitmaps or whateva
[23:04] <Squee-D> and for flash 8, the other choice is horrible :)
[23:04] <temp1> Squee: So you are saying that it's better to use FlashDevelop than the Flash
[23:04] <Squee-D> regardless get yourself flashdevelop to write your classes in
[23:04] <Squee-D> temp1 for flash 8 we use flash IDE to compile and load asets into a library
[23:05] <Squee-D> and we use flashdevlop to edit our classes
[23:05] <Squee-D> we dont use scripts or timeline code at all
[23:05] <Squee-D> for flash 9 we'll probably use flex builder
[23:05] <temp1> Squee: Do you do AS 3?
[23:05] <Squee-D> temp1 not yet
[23:05] <Squee-D> i rarely code nowadays anyway
[23:05] <temp1> Cuz I hear programmers saying AS 3 is so much better
[23:06] <temp1> and I need to code some games :)
[23:06] <Squee-D> as 3 isnt the big improvement
[23:06] <Squee-D> its the DOM
[23:06] <Squee-D> the movieclip class can be ignored now
[23:06] <chandler9> i like how flash 8 player can goto flash 9 in like a very small download
[23:06] <Squee-D> it was nasty
[23:06] <chandler9> adobe is on the ball
[23:06] <Squee-D> yeah they are
[23:06] <temp1> I saw MS's expression thingy
[23:06] <temp1> that seems pretty powerful too
[23:07] <temp1> interesting, AS 3 seems like Java
[23:07] <Squee-D> yeah flash 9 is linux/mac/pc and has a tiny install
[23:07] <Squee-D> like java in what way?
[23:07] <temp1> the code style
[23:07] <temp1> using packages
[23:07] <Squee-D> so is as2
[23:07] <Squee-D> if you have a clue :)
[23:08] <temp1> k, I don't :)
[23:08] <temp1> I do what I have to do
[23:08] <temp1> and not much more ... yet
[23:08] <Squee-D> namespaces are good enough
[23:08] <Squee-D> classify everything, get out of the timelines
[23:08] <Squee-D> and you're golden
[23:08] <temp1> yeah, I have code in another language
[23:09] <Squee-D> but the movieclip class will still hound you, as i say, the new api is the
[23:09] <temp1> and I may write something that converts code/logic over to AS
[23:09] <temp1> do you know when Flash 9 is coming out?
[23:09] <chandler9> flash is the future temp
[23:09] <chandler9> no i dunno im just babbling
[23:09] <Squee-D> flash 9 ide? this qtr
[23:09] <chandler9> but its really l33t
[23:10] <temp1> I agree that flash is huge for now
[23:10] <temp1> until MS catches up, we'll see
[23:10] <Ghaleon> you can play flash on Wii
[23:10] <temp1> but I'm going to do my current games in it for now
[23:10] <Squee-D> play with flex builder trial temp
[23:10] <temp1> oh yeah
[23:10] <Squee-D> ghal thats like flash 7 no?
[23:10] <Ghaleon> no idea
[23:10] <Ghaleon> but youtube works
[23:10] <temp1> k
[23:10] <chandler9> youtube uses 7
[23:10] <Ghaleon> gootube
[23:10] <chandler9> i dunno why really
[23:11] <chandler9> cuz myspace uses 9
[23:11] <chandler9> so the penetration of 9 is big
[23:11] <Squee-D> not yet
[23:11] <Squee-D> 40%
[23:11] <chandler9> funny how they use the word penetration
[23:11] <temp1> yeah
[23:11] <temp1> my games will be in flash
[23:11] <temp1> for now
[23:11] <temp1> and I'll see how that goes
[23:11] <temp1> one other question
[23:11] <temp1> well, not really one
[23:11] <temp1> but here's something that's annoying
[23:11] <temp1> when I import 100 images into the Flash IDE
[23:11] <Ghaleon> chandler9: bcuz they luv da kock
[23:12] <temp1> I have to click on each one and select properties and choose "Export for Acti
[23:12] <temp1> is there some way to automatically do all of that
[23:12] <temp1> it can get tedious :)
[23:12] <Squee-D> umm
[23:12] <Squee-D> yeah
[23:12] <Squee-D> import them onto a timeline
[23:12] <Squee-D> show the movieclip[ and jump to the fram you want
[23:13] <temp1> oh, so no way to auto do it when in the library
[23:14] <Squee-D> not that i know of
[23:15] <Squee-D> you could prolly write a jsfl for it
[23:15] <Ghaleon> what about a asdf
[23:15] <Squee-D> asdf doesnt work in this version :/
[23:15] <temp1> asdf? I thought that was a joke!
[23:16] <Squee-D> it was
[23:16] <chandler9> i get aeries ultimate weapon before she dies lame
[23:16] <Ghaleon> pwnd
[23:16] <Ghaleon> u still pwayin
[23:16] <Ghaleon> I get bored after like 1hr
[23:16] <chandler9> ya lol
[23:17] <chandler9> i played this game like in 97 and i was 11
[23:17] <chandler9> i didnt really understand a lot
[23:17] <Ghaleon> I don't really care that much
[23:17] <Ghaleon> I just want to hitz emeniez
[23:17] <chandler9> shut up u non carer noob
[23:17] <Ghaleon> huhu
[23:17] <chandler9> thats funny i just want to go through story
[23:17] <chandler9> lol
[23:17] <Ghaleon> I kare about da Disgaea chars bcuz they want to pwn da newbs
[23:18] <chandler9> lol
[23:18] <chandler9> i should get the disgaea remake when it comez out
[23:19] <Ghaleon> yeh
[23:19] <chandler9> psp would be piece of crap without sleep mode
[23:19] <Ghaleon> it's not the same in Japanese :(
[23:19] <chandler9> wut
[23:19] <chandler9> i have to load the gay ps2?
[23:19] <Ghaleon> Disgaea PSP J is out allready
[23:19] <chandler9> ic ic
[23:40] <chandler9> hmm
[23:42] <chandler9> lol
[23:42] <chandler9> cait sith predicts brigiht future for aeries and cloud
[23:43] <chandler9> no wonder her death was ad
[23:43] <chandler9> sad
[23:48] <insynwyn> zorbahut: u there?
[23:55] <kozmonaut> die
[23:55] <insynwyn> http://zaable.com/media/4970/Embarrasing_Situation/
[23:55] <insynwyn> die laughing at this
[23:55] <kozmonaut> kozmonaut > cait sith
[23:55] <insynwyn> turn the sound on
[23:55] <DebolazX> http://ftw.generation.no/?n=2293
Session Close: Sun Jan 21 00:00:00 2007