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Session Start: Wed Sep 06 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #gamedev
[00:00] <TCBlue> HUH ?
[00:00] <aav> Ultyma, dude, the dx/4 is so much better
[00:00] <aav> 100MHz!
[00:01] <chandler9> u need it for doom2
[00:01] <Ultyma> :O
[00:01] <chandler9> all the mhz counts
[00:01] <aav> yup
[00:01] * aav goes to work
[00:01] <directhex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best_selling_computer_and_video_game
[00:01] <chandler9> speaking of doom2
[00:01] <chandler9> 1.81 million w00t
[00:02] <directhex> #3 rawrs
[00:04] <chandler9> #2 was like the ultimate pc packin
[00:04] <chandler9> pack-in
[00:13] <TCBlue> are duoos 64 bit ?
[00:14] <directhex> i wonder how much counter-strike helped
[00:14] <chandler9> im pretty sure its 64 bit
[00:15] <chandler9> core 2 duoz r
[00:15] <TCBlue> k
[00:15] <chandler9> core duo is not
[00:16] <Scrat64> http://digg.com/hardware/Intel_Core_Duo_is_a_64-bit_chip
[00:21] <aav> bit binning ftw
[00:22] <chandler9> i thought u were goign to work
[00:22] <Scrat64> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/coreduo.htm
[00:22] <aav> dire times
[00:22] <Scrat64> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm
[00:22] <aav> chandler9, i am at work ;)
[00:22] <Scrat64> Funny, core duo has VT but not EMT64
[00:23] <aav> dunno, like they say, if they do bin the Core Duos as 32bit only, thats probabl
[00:23] <aav> ...than the VT stuff
[00:24] <Scrat64> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/proc_info_table.pdf
[01:02] <TCBlue> porn sucks
[01:02] <TCBlue> anyone else here aware of that ? :)
[01:02] <TCBlue> I am :(
[01:02] <TCBlue> so then
[01:03] <TCBlue> nicali
[01:06] <TCBlue> these are the only afe parts of the nets... programming, pixel art, annnnnnn
[01:06] <TCBlue> that's about it
[01:06] <TCBlue> oph and kelly blue book
[01:07] <TCBlue> oh well.. on to more browsing :)
[01:07] <TCBlue> no one here to argue
[01:33] <Luminion> I've been thinking. Are web-based games a good place to start for an organ
[01:33] <chandler9> what
[01:34] <Luminion> Like games made with java, where people could just go onto your site and p
[01:36] <Luminion> gotta go
[01:45] <TCBlue> sup mick algero ?
[02:48] <TCBlue> hey
[02:48] <TCBlue> yeah
[02:48] <TCBlue> they are
[02:48] <TCBlue> oh
[02:56] * Rangar declares that talking in this room now is limited to those with +o only - all othe
[02:59] * aav swallows
[02:59] <Dr_Rambo> Rangar is a tard
[02:59] <Dr_Rambo> wallow in my infinite wisdom!
[02:59] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[03:00] <Rangar> Oooo, they be fight'n words you wallaby export!
[03:00] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[03:01] <Rangar> man, 2day sucked..
[03:01] <Rangar> Some tweeber somewhere cut the main fiber cable and this whole part of the c
[03:04] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[03:04] <Dr_Rambo> really
[03:04] <Dr_Rambo> no shit, ?!
[03:05] <Dr_Rambo> can't be.. I thought we still have a satellite connection
[03:05] <Dr_Rambo> 2GBIT satellite
[03:07] <Rangar> we lost de lot
[03:07] <Rangar> efpos, banks, everything down
[03:09] <aav> Rangar, wow
[03:10] <aav> your infrastructure really is Middle Earth-like :)
[03:10] <Rangar> LOL
[03:10] <Rangar> odd - I didn't think it would take cellular out also.. but it did
[03:10] <Rangar> I guess cellular uses fiber until it's in the zone the cellphone is in and t
[03:10] <aav> yeah
[03:10] <Rangar> not really bothered to look at the tech behind it to be honest
[03:11] <aav> but
[03:11] <aav> one thinks it should be more localized
[03:11] <Rangar> so just as aavy and Slade and I were having a good ole convo.. whamo
[03:11] <aav> ah so that was why :)
[03:11] <Rangar> yuppers
[03:11] <aav> Slade also pinged out at the same time
[03:11] <aav> so i thought pls had haxed you ;)
[03:11] <Rangar> hehe, only a guy with a shovel ;)
[03:12] <aav> maybe he had a thin moustache
[03:12] <Rangar> http://newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=335156&catid=30
[03:12] <aav> ah so there was some kind of backup
[03:12] <Rangar> heh "severe degradation" my butt, we couldn't do jack or crap.. and Jack had
[03:13] <aav> :P
[03:13] <Rangar> obviously not enough to take the hit on it
[03:13] <aav> sounds similar to when there are power outages
[03:13] <aav> people turn on everything including the blender
[03:13] <aav> just to know when it goes back on
[03:13] <Rangar> haha., yea
[03:13] <Rangar> I don't bother, my VCR clicking back on and blinking is more then enough
[03:13] <aav> :)
[03:14] <aav> i've coded on a laptop in candle light once.. it was quite a feeling
[03:14] <aav> imagining you're the only one within a large radius still in the 21st century
[03:15] <Rangar> lol
[03:15] <Rangar> did you get out a quill pen and write on the screen also? ;)
[03:15] <aav> and then the battery died
[03:15] <aav> heh
[03:15] <Rangar> doh, hehe
[03:15] <aav> i think i cried a little
[03:15] <aav> or maybe it was just eye strain
[03:15] <Rangar> hahahaha
[03:20] <Rangar> man - I keep watching Star Wars - as much as it annoys me
[03:21] <Rangar> I'm like I hate Luke, and the good guys are nothing but cunning liers who ar
[03:21] <Rangar> I mean, Obwan hiding from Luke who is father is.. man, if I was Luke I'd be
[03:23] <aav> well, the rebels are terrorists
[03:23] <Rangar> yes, BUT the JEDI are meant to stand for TRUTH
[03:25] <aav> mm
[03:25] <Rangar> http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/09/05/sexdriving.shtml
[03:25] <Rangar> OK, DO NOT drive in russia!
[03:26] <Rangar> "Hey, you just hit my car!, .. O, I'm sorry sir, i had my HEAD DOWN!"
[03:26] <Rangar> ugh
[03:26] <aav> hehe
[03:27] <aav> i'd be afraid to drive in most places in europe
[03:28] <Rangar> oh I dunno.. seems like a good way to get sex ;)
[03:28] <Rangar> IF I were single I mean ;)
[03:29] * erimOff is now known as erim
[03:29] <aav> heheh
[03:30] <aav> unrelated but:
[03:30] <aav> anyone compared the DXTn compression tools available from MS/ATI/NV?
[03:30] <aav> quality and such
[03:31] <Rangar> to be honest, I've only ever bothered with the DX one
[03:35] * erim is now known as erimOff
[03:40] <aav> ah
[03:52] * bbiaw is now known as __kw
[03:54] <aav> man, NVDXT has so many options :)
[04:46] <vamecum> massive ps3 delay
[04:47] <aav> surprise!
[04:47] * NosOff is now known as NosTek
[05:02] <Rangar> byebye 50% Sony stocks by days end then ;)
[05:03] <Rangar> ahh, only in Europe
[05:03] <Rangar> still on track for US and Japan
[05:03] <Rangar> Mr Kutaragi blamed the European delay on problems in mass producing elements
[05:03] <Rangar> so, in English - the delay is due to new technology noone but Sony wants any
[05:04] <TCBlue> hi
[05:49] * Disconnected
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[05:49] * Topic is 'Blender Crowd Simulation : http://www.harkyman.com/bp.html | XNA is now! www.mi
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[05:49] -bleeding_- Welcome to #gamedev, jJones. No warez, no triggers, no servers, no banners, no
[06:14] <vamecum> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/chan925/europelying.jpg
[06:15] <Rangar> yawn
[06:16] <Rangar> how the hell can they justify an extra 100 euros for 40gig hdd upgrade
[06:27] <TCBlue> sup ?
[06:27] <TCBlue> what's good that's new ? :)
[06:28] <vamecum> nothing
[06:28] <TCBlue> what's a vamecum ?
[06:28] <vamecum> but news is ps3 delayed til march
[06:28] <TCBlue> oh
[06:29] <Rangar> Oh, vamecum's mother has finally said he IS her child.. after many years, we
[06:29] <Rangar> we never thought we'd see that come to be honest
[06:30] <vamecum> yes, now I can stop hanging out with your mum. :)
[06:30] * vamecum ducks
[06:30] <Rangar> oh thats OK, she said you're the worst she ever had anyway
[06:32] <TCBlue> anyone here know where a pyschcology channel can be found ?
[06:32] <aav> not with that spelling ;)
[06:32] <Rangar> well, #gamedev would be a great test case for experiments.. does that count?
[06:32] <Rangar> hahaha
[06:33] <TCBlue> :| ... :] I'm studying it.. does anyone know what shcizephreina really is ?
[06:33] <Dr_Rambo> Schizophrenia
[06:34] <Rangar> You're pass rate is not going to be overly good if you can't even spell what
[06:35] <TCBlue> :|
[06:35] <TCBlue> typo
[06:35] <TCBlue> do you know anything about it ?
[06:35] <aav> its even harder with all the magic goblins crawling under your skin whispering
[06:35] <Rangar> Q: How many French soliders does it take to defend Paris?
[06:36] <Rangar> aav: We don't know. It's never been done.
[06:36] <Rangar> hahaha
[06:36] <aav> :P
[06:36] <aav> you need to fix your completion script there
[06:37] <Rangar> indeed
[06:38] <TCBlue> aav ?
[06:38] <TCBlue> magic goblins ?
[06:38] <Rangar> 'yes, they cause schizophrenia
[06:38] <TCBlue> what is Schizophrenia exactly ?
[06:39] <TCBlue> :| serious topic here.. I might not pass if I don't learn more about it
[06:39] <tmpvar> lol
[06:39] <Rangar> dude
[06:39] <TCBlue> doing a survey of multiple poitns of view
[06:39] <_Astaroth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
[06:39] <Rangar> you have heard of GOOGLE?
[06:39] <tmpvar> :)
[06:39] <Rangar> or WIKIPEDIA
[06:39] <Rangar> exactly!
[06:39] <TCBlue> I figired I'de ask live people
[06:39] <tmpvar> bad idea
[06:39] <TCBlue> I've allready done that sort of research
[06:39] <Rangar> we're text, we arnt really alive
[06:39] <aav> well as far as i know, it causes you to have trouble distinguishing between the
[06:40] <tmpvar> multiple personalities
[06:40] <aav> to the point where you actually hallucinate
[06:40] <Rangar> i.e what's the real aav, and whats his internet bot
[06:40] <aav> tmpvar, no
[06:40] <tmpvar> psh
[06:40] <aav> thats MPD
[06:40] <Rangar> yea, I've known 2 people in real life who had schiz.. They do things like, t
[06:41] <TCBlue> well aav has more digits :D
[06:41] <TCBlue> oh ? is that just to get on your nerves ?
[06:41] <aav> what?
[06:41] <Rangar> and you can get paranoid schiz, which causes them to like, check they have t
[06:41] <Rangar> one of my best friends though school was like that
[06:41] <aav> Rangar, and the men outside in the black van etc
[06:41] <Rangar> he never went that odd
[06:41] <aav> ok
[06:41] <_Astaroth> maybe he was just high
[06:42] <TCBlue> thats obsesive compulsive disorder :)
[06:42] <TCBlue> er.. sp
[06:42] <aav> PCP!
[06:42] <aav> oh dear, typo
[06:42] <aav> :P
[06:42] <Rangar> _Astaroth: naa, he never did drugs.. I went right though primary school with
[06:42] <_Astaroth> ah
[06:43] <TCBlue> such as ?
[06:43] <Rangar> then an ex-gf of mine, her flatmate and best friend was schizo - so I knew h
[06:44] <TCBlue> please tell me first hand..this is the sort of story i need to be aware of :
[06:44] <Rangar> TCBlue: Oh things like, he sort of lived in another world to a degree.. very
[06:44] <TCBlue> not to be intrusive though :|
[06:44] <Rangar> which.. rotfl, probably made him such a GREAT dungeon Master.. LOL
[06:44] <TCBlue> oh ? artistic ? oh
[06:45] <TCBlue> so it's common in artistic people ? I didn't read that in my book
[06:45] <TCBlue> or online yet
[06:45] <Rangar> "Kitchen Fridge attacks you", "What do you do?" ;)(
[06:45] <Rangar> hmm, he was very artistic.. ended up doing LOTS of WEIRD paintings
[06:45] <aav> ex-boyfriend of my sister probably had it... he saw/talked to people that weren
[06:46] <TCBlue> weird... please tell me... are these peoples till alive ?
[06:46] <TCBlue> I'm told there is a high drop off rate
[06:46] <TCBlue> for oner eason or another
[06:46] <Rangar> ya know.. I do not know
[06:47] <aav> well the guy i mentioned is, afaik
[06:47] <Rangar> honestly, I caught up with him like a month before I got married again, and
[06:47] <Rangar> I think he took it a bit hard to see me getting married to be honest
[06:47] <aav> :/
[06:47] <Rangar> one of those "seeing others move on" sort of thing
[06:47] <aav> oh you been married twice?
[06:47] <Rangar> NO
[06:47] <aav> :D
[06:48] <aav> check yo grammarz or check the consequencez
[06:48] <Rangar> I mean caught up with AGAIN just before I got married.. that sounds better :
[06:48] <aav> :)
[06:49] <Rangar> when we were 17, we joined the army together, he lastes 1 night and they had
[06:49] <Rangar> but no diagnosis at that time, or he'd never have been accepted to start wit
[06:49] <tmpvar> this is a bit scary.
[06:49] <J-Rod> they'd probably take any warm bodies at this point
[06:50] <Rangar> J-Rod: The US, yea, quite possibly
[06:50] <TCBlue> rangar is canadian ?
[06:50] <TCBlue> or mexican :D
[06:50] <Rangar> I come from Easter Island
[06:51] <Rangar> did u not know that?
[06:51] <_Astaroth> hint: he can legally marry sheep
[06:51] <TCBlue> :]
[06:51] <J-Rod> Yeah Easter Island has a mad huge army
[06:51] <J-Rod> they just don't move much
[06:51] <Rangar> I'm the fourth head statue from the right as you look down from the hill wit
[06:51] <TCBlue> so he wasn't diagnosed untill afterwards eh ?
[06:52] <Rangar> damnit - quit all the sheep jokes!
[06:52] <TCBlue> :]
[06:52] <Rangar> I was only caught HELPING it through the fence.. HONEST!
[06:52] <TCBlue> that's mroe for new zelanaders i thought
[06:52] <TCBlue> haha
[06:53] <TCBlue> more fore New Zealanders*
[06:53] <_Astaroth> ehehe
[06:53] <TCBlue> for.. bleh I'm too tired :)
[06:53] <Rangar> man I'm soo bored
[06:54] <Rangar> we need a good nuke or something interesting in the world
[06:54] <aav> i was going to say count sheep
[06:54] <TCBlue> tell me more later ? :)
[06:54] <Rangar> TCBlue: heh, I didn't even give you p[ermission to use what I have said :P
[06:54] <TCBlue> I'm working on something that talks about the nature of the link between sle
[06:54] <Rangar> ugh
[06:55] <TCBlue> did this guy ever have problems sleeping prior to diagnosis ?
[06:55] <aav> i sleep like a rand() call
[06:55] <aav> but afaik i'm not schizophrenic
[06:55] <Rangar> u know, I don't know if he did or not to be honest
[06:55] <_Astaroth> hehe, I know what you mean aav
[06:55] <TCBlue> :]
[06:55] <aav> i guess the correlation goes the *other* way though
[06:55] <aav> _Astaroth :)
[06:55] <Rangar> comp addicts rand(0 sleep
[06:55] <aav> ?REDO FROM START
[06:56] <TCBlue> GOTO bed
[06:56] <Rangar> is that like 10 ? "Oh crap!"
[06:56] <Rangar> ?
[06:56] <TCBlue> bed : GOTO couch...
[06:56] <TCBlue> couch: GOTO PC
[06:56] <TCBlue> :D
[06:58] <aav> couch = bed
[06:58] <aav> ive been sleeping on the couch lately
[06:58] <aav> dont know why i put up with it
[06:58] <aav> maybe because i have things in my bed
[07:00] * Rangar blinks
[07:00] <Rangar> ok.. remember the first rule aavy... NEVER try to kick love bites to your bl
[07:00] * Dr_Rambo suggest Rangar to start counting sheeps
[07:01] <Rangar> erm, give, GIVE
[07:01] <Rangar> I'm SURE this keyboard tries to guess what I want to type and just does it i
[07:01] <Dr_Rambo> "one sheeps, two sheeps, ohh, she's a beauty.. oh oh... oh hi girlfriend..
[07:01] <Rangar> lol
[07:02] <Rangar> APPARENTLY..
[07:02] <Rangar> the sheep is the closest thing in the sex regions to a human female
[07:02] <Rangar> this raises 2 issues..
[07:02] <Rangar> 1) Who the hell found that out!
[07:02] <Rangar> and 2) Who the hell was DUMB ENOUGH to TELL!
[07:02] <_Astaroth> heheh
[07:03] <_Astaroth> http://www.muttonbone.com/
[07:04] <aav> and why oh why did god make us compatible with sheep?
[07:05] <Rangar> Ooooo hell!
[07:05] <Rangar> rotfl
[07:05] <Rangar> "Parking in read!" .. HAHAHAHA
[07:05] <Rangar> \erm, REAR
[07:07] <aav> heh
[07:55] <TCBlue> msut you say these things :)
[08:03] <TCBlue> hey
[08:03] <TCBlue> where did all tehf antasy art on teh internet go to ?
[08:03] <TCBlue> did you graduate army ?
[08:11] <TCBlue> so basically you guys claim to know next to knowthing about insomnia ? :)
[08:14] <vamecum> there is a movie called insomnia
[08:17] <Dr_Rambo> TCBlue, I think u come to the wrong channel
[08:17] <Dr_Rambo> this is game development, not #psychology
[08:23] <Ultyma> lo
[08:23] <Ultyma> l
[08:33] * Dr_Rambo slaps Ultyma around a bit with a large trout
[08:33] <Dr_Rambo> get back to work
[08:36] * NosTek is now known as NosOff
[08:44] <Ultyma> nope
[10:19] * Ghaleon slaps Dr_Rambo around a bit with a large Ultyma
[10:20] * Dr_Rambo blocks with Kittah Claw 2x4
[10:21] * Ghaleon kicks Dr_Rambo squa in da nuts
[10:21] <Ghaleon> * Dr_Rambo takes 337 damage
[10:21] <Ghaleon> * Dr_Rambo takes 1337 damage
[10:22] * Dr_Rambo reverse the kick and Ghaleon kick himself in the arse
[10:22] * Ghaleon reverses the reverse
[10:22] * Dr_Rambo triple reverse + infinite and no more reverse
[10:23] * Ghaleon gets Dr_Rambo's mama to sit on Dr_Rambo
[10:23] <Ghaleon> ngp
[10:23] <Ghaleon> gg
[10:23] <kermit`> Ghaleonz
[10:40] * __kw is now known as _kw
[10:47] <Ultyma> vista is a pile of crap
[10:53] <Dr_Rambo> doodoo
[10:59] <wkr4k4r> anyone here have experience with coding 1.3 shaders and 2.0?
[10:59] <wkr4k4r> im using dx9
[11:00] <wkr4k4r> and the SetVertexShaderConstant() call is gone
[11:00] <wkr4k4r> and seems to be replaced with some calls that are similar that place direct
[11:01] <wkr4k4r> my card doesnt support ps 2
[11:01] <wkr4k4r> only 1.3
[11:01] <wkr4k4r> and vs 1.1
[11:01] <wkr4k4r> now when i call the effect it renders a texture with some kind of normal ma
[11:01] <wkr4k4r> but i cant get it to change it seems
[11:02] <wkr4k4r> the normal map always seems the same
[11:03] <wkr4k4r> msg #3dsmax they are using pixel shaders
[11:03] <Dr_Rambo> how is motion blur is calculated on hardware right now?
[11:03] <capisce> not at all
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> anyways
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> i just want to get my crappy game working
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> with ps 1.3
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> heh
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> im trying to compile the vs 1.1 code
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> it compiles
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> ps 1.3 code wont compile it says you cant use a texture in 1.3
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> thats fine
[11:06] <wkr4k4r> ill port it to some other code
[11:07] <wkr4k4r> but anyways i dont think im initializing the vertexshader constants correct
[11:07] <Dr_Rambo> maybe u don't have the right vid card?
[11:07] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[11:07] <wkr4k4r> in 1.3 must they be passed via the
[11:07] <Dr_Rambo> just a thought
[11:07] <wkr4k4r> i know i dont
[11:07] <wkr4k4r> it has vs 1.1 and ps 1.3
[11:07] <wkr4k4r> it sucks ;)
[11:08] <Dr_Rambo> could that be the reason?
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> its part of the reason
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> but i still should be able to code this for my crappy card too
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> looks like my card is dx8
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> heh
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> and im using dx9
[11:08] <wkr4k4r> there are some funcs that can do the copy it looks like
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> i just want to steal some code
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> and get this crap working
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> heh
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> ive stolen some
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> now i gotta mod it
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> oh well
[11:09] <wkr4k4r> thats life of stealing code
[11:10] <wkr4k4r> guess mots dx 9 programs dont care much about us with these crappy shaders
[11:11] <wkr4k4r> for now im just ignoring the pixel shader
[11:11] <wkr4k4r> the vertex shader is fucked up more
[11:11] <Ultyma> do you like talking to yourself on 500 lines?
[11:12] <wkr4k4r> yes
[11:23] <LarsLAP> Ultyma: stop fucking it up for him, then!! :P
[11:29] <Ultyma> :O
[12:26] * Butcher_ is now known as _Butcher_
[12:31] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[12:32] <ht7z> Hello! :-)
[12:32] <[Relic]> :)
[12:38] <[Relic]> lively :)
[12:38] <ht7z> :)
[14:01] <Fizzter> I formatted a drive and installed a fresh install of windows, and it ended
[14:06] <J-Rod> large swap file?
[14:06] <Fizzter> no
[14:07] <J-Rod> did you do NTFS?
[14:07] <Fizzter> already took into consideration all hidden stuff
[14:07] <Fizzter> yes it is NTFS
[14:07] <sort> whats the "size on disk"
[14:07] <Fizzter> 3.45 GB (3,706,439,901 bytes)
[14:08] <DDustin> sort: this is a programming channel, not a sex channel
[14:08] <sort> oh dear :o
[14:08] <Fizzter> what gives???
[14:08] <sort> reinstall? :D
[14:08] <J-Rod> what's the drive capacity as listed
[14:08] <DDustin> sort: just kiddin. the 'size on disk' is supposed to mean the actual physi
[14:09] <Fizzter> i JUST reinstalled
[14:09] <Fizzter> it's a pain to format/reinstall
[14:09] <DDustin> i've never really known why its different then the 'software' size
[14:09] <Fizzter> Total Size: 74.4 GB Free Space: 67.6 GB
[14:09] <DDustin> maybe it has to do with 1000 vs 1024 size kilobytes or something
[14:09] <Fizzter> that means it's saying 6.8 GB used
[14:09] <Fizzter> yet
[14:09] <Fizzter> only 3.45 GB is used
[14:10] <sort> maybe you have... sector gnomes!
[14:10] <J-Rod> yeah the cluster size would only be an issue with FAT iirc
[14:11] <Fizzter> ok so...
[14:11] <Fizzter> what gives?
[14:11] <Fizzter> bad format or something?
[14:11] <J-Rod> doubtful
[14:11] <J-Rod> did you do a full format?
[14:11] <J-Rod> or a quick
[14:12] <Fizzter> full
[14:12] <Fizzter> i tried running checkdisk and defrag
[14:12] <J-Rod> did you delete the partition beforehand?
[14:12] <Fizzter> of course
[14:12] <Fizzter> cleared the drive of partitions
[14:12] <J-Rod> don't of course me, that was valid question
[14:12] <J-Rod> ;)
[14:12] <Fizzter> :D
[14:13] <Fizzter> anyways
[14:13] <J-Rod> what size is your swap
[14:13] <Fizzter> 768 megs
[14:13] <Fizzter> on another note, I tried both Acronis TrueImage and Norton Ghost
[14:13] <Fizzter> hard to say which is better
[14:13] <J-Rod> I like NG
[14:13] <Fizzter> TrueImage has better compression, runs faster, and has much much much bette
[14:13] <sort> is the recycle bin empty?
[14:13] <J-Rod> lol
[14:13] <Fizzter> Norton Ghost, on the otherhand, doesn't have show-stopping bugs
[14:14] <Fizzter> Acronis TrueImage will literally just quit working
[14:14] <Fizzter> and you have to manually remove a bunch of stuff and reinstall
[14:14] <J-Rod> yeah I never used TI
[14:14] <J-Rod> why are we talking about imaging
[14:14] <J-Rod> I thought this was a fresh format
[14:14] <J-Rod> and reinstall
[14:14] <Fizzter> it was
[14:14] <Fizzter> :D
[14:14] <Fizzter> i've been doing both
[14:14] <Fizzter> dont ask..
[14:14] <Fizzter> :D
[14:15] <Fizzter> I did a fresh format/install before trying each of the imaging softwares
[14:15] <Fizzter> anyways, i'll find it.. i'll toy around with making sure the swap/hiberfil/
[14:15] <Fizzter> i hear system restore can be gigs upon gigs
[14:16] <sort> is the recycle bin empty??
[14:16] <Fizzter> sort, dude give me a break
[14:16] <Fizzter> lol
[14:16] <J-Rod> oh yeah
[14:16] <J-Rod> system restore can be large
[14:16] <sort> :D
[14:16] <J-Rod> but I don't know on a fresh install
[14:16] <Fizzter> yeah
[14:16] <Fizzter> fresh install
[14:16] <J-Rod> you could try disabling it
[14:16] <Fizzter> why would system restore exist at all?
[14:16] <Fizzter> hehe
[14:16] <Fizzter> anyways
[14:16] <Fizzter> imma go perform maintenance tasks
[14:16] <J-Rod> I doubt it's a big deal
[14:17] * Fizzter poos
[14:17] <sort> system restore would still be counted as a birnak file when determining disk u
[14:17] <sort> birnak = normal
[14:17] <sort> seems it is time to put in my comtacts :FD
[14:17] <J-Rod> I was gonna say
[14:17] <J-Rod> I fucking googled it cause I felt like an idiot
[14:17] <sort> haha
[14:19] <Fizzter> ARGH!
[14:19] <Fizzter> friggin Norton Ghost!
[14:19] <wkr4k4r> does anyone here have the directx 8.1 sdk they can send?
[14:19] <Fizzter> you have to use the recovery CD to image the primary drive?!
[14:19] <Fizzter> it takes like 10 minutes to boot from that dang CD!
[14:20] * Fizzter screams
[14:20] <_Butcher_> wkr4k4r: why not just use the DX9 sdk?
[14:20] <wkr4k4r> cause my video card sucks
[14:20] <wkr4k4r> its vs 1.1
[14:20] <_Butcher_> and?
[14:20] <wkr4k4r> and ps 1.3
[14:20] <_Butcher_> DX9 supports older cards
[14:21] <_Butcher_> besides which the dx9 sdk has dx8.1 in
[14:21] <wkr4k4r> SetVertexShaderConstant is gone
[14:21] <wkr4k4r> the examples dont well
[14:21] <_Butcher_> it's SetVertexshaderConstantF
[14:21] <wkr4k4r> the effects compile for 2.0 and higher
[14:21] <wkr4k4r> yea
[14:21] <wkr4k4r> ive changed it
[14:22] <wkr4k4r> and it doesnt help any
[14:22] <wkr4k4r> the vertex shader is putting out some normal surface
[14:22] <wkr4k4r> that i cant affect
[14:22] <wkr4k4r> with everything ive tried
[14:22] <wkr4k4r> im compiling the vertex effect for 1.0
[14:22] <wkr4k4r> which works
[14:23] <wkr4k4r> basically it looks like its applying a normal map
[14:23] <wkr4k4r> except i cant control the normal map
[14:57] <Fizzter> who here said they used norton ghost?
[14:57] <chandler9> just think if wikipedia had ads
[14:58] <Fizzter> you can add your own ads
[15:40] <J-Rod> http://www.sics.se/~adam/contiki-img/browser-blueround-google.png
[15:42] <Ultyma> lol
[15:46] <chandler9> haha
[15:47] <Fizzter> when formatting to install a new windows installaion, during format it prom
[15:48] <chandler9> one deletes one doesnt
[15:48] <Ziggy-> :O
[15:48] <Ziggy-> werd up
[15:49] <chandler9> the one that doesnt delete labels the data deleted
[15:49] <chandler9> the other actually puts 0s in it so its gone foreva
[15:50] <Fizzter> well, you're wrong
[15:50] <Fizzter> but thanks for trying :D
[15:50] <chandler9> ok
[15:50] <Ziggy-> :D
[15:50] <Ziggy-> 8869 Unique Visits
[15:50] <chandler9> explain to me
[15:50] <chandler9> cuz i was kind of guessing
[15:50] <Ziggy-> only 400 new peeps today
[15:50] <Fizzter> one checks for bad sectors, the other doesn't
[15:50] <chandler9> ic
[15:51] <Ziggy-> the quick one takes longer
[15:51] <chandler9> im still kind of right
[15:51] <Fizzter> When you choose to run a regular format on a volume, files are removed from
[15:51] <Fizzter> If you choose the Quick format option, format removes files from the partit
[15:51] <chandler9> the quick doesnt delete it just resets the ntfs table
[15:52] <Fizzter> wrong
[15:52] <chandler9> what
[15:52] <chandler9> where you reading that from
[15:52] <Fizzter> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302686
[15:52] <chandler9> what im saying is still the same
[15:52] <chandler9> aside from the bad sector thing
[15:53] <Fizzter> they both delete all files
[15:53] <Fizzter> ok gotta run
[15:53] <chandler9> the first one physically deletes it
[15:53] <chandler9> puts 0s in it
[15:53] <chandler9> the quick does not
[15:53] <Fizzter> If you choose the Quick format option, format removes files from the partit
[15:53] <Ziggy-> Today's Earnings: $0.52
[15:53] <Ziggy-> nice
[15:53] <chandler9> when it says remove
[15:53] <chandler9> its the same thing as deleting the ntfs table data for it
[15:54] <chandler9> the data is still there
[15:54] <Fizzter> chandler
[15:54] <Fizzter> when's TF2 out?
[15:54] <slz> ZIGGY
[15:54] <slz> i have something for you to try
[15:54] <chandler9> 1st q 2007
[15:54] <Fizzter> thx
[15:54] <slz> but you can't show anyone
[15:54] <Ziggy-> :D
[15:54] <Ziggy-> word
[15:54] <chandler9> show it to me too
[15:54] <chandler9> !
[15:54] <Ziggy-> nevar!
[15:55] <slz> zig
[15:55] <slz> thats a basic idea
[15:55] <slz> don't steal my idea plz
[15:55] <slz> and mind the shitty title screen
[15:55] <slz> i didn't make one yet
[15:56] <Ziggy-> lol
[15:57] * Ziggy- deletes the code
[15:57] <Ziggy-> :(
[16:04] <Ziggy-> goopr
[17:49] * Rangar_ is now known as Rangar
[18:00] * jrod_ is now known as MrsJrod
[18:51] * _kw is now known as bbiaw
[19:46] <wkr4k4r> anyone here have the directx 8.1 SDK?
[19:47] <Dr_Rambo> 8.1?
[19:47] <Dr_Rambo> why do u want the old one
[19:47] <wkr4k4r> to compile something to test on
[19:47] <wkr4k4r> i have a gf4 ti
[19:47] <wkr4k4r> with vs 1.0 and ps 1.3
[19:47] <Dr_Rambo> oh haha
[19:47] <Dr_Rambo> I see
[19:47] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[19:48] <wkr4k4r> its gone from their site
[19:48] <wkr4k4r> and the function they were using to pass parameters seems to be gone
[19:48] <wkr4k4r> and i havent found docs on what they are doing there anyways
[19:48] <wkr4k4r> :(
[19:49] <wkr4k4r> i just want to use a normal map with vertex shading
[19:49] <wkr4k4r> i get one now
[19:49] <wkr4k4r> but its the same one
[19:49] <wkr4k4r> and i have no clue where it comes from
[19:49] <wkr4k4r> heh
[19:49] <wkr4k4r> its whatever it is by default some random stuff
[19:50] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1c1a1d73-2c84-4ed
[19:50] <Dr_Rambo> that's extra
[19:50] <wkr4k4r> yea
[19:50] <wkr4k4r> fuck the extra shit
[19:50] <Dr_Rambo> I think 8.1SDK is somewhere
[19:50] <wkr4k4r> its not
[19:50] <wkr4k4r> others are looking
[19:50] <wkr4k4r> they did this with nt 4 and w2k sdk too
[19:51] <wkr4k4r> know about vertexshader version 1?
[19:51] <Dr_Rambo> not really, I am not a programmer :|
[19:52] <wkr4k4r> and the SetVertexShaderConstant() variables?
[19:52] <wkr4k4r> ive set two textures
[19:52] <wkr4k4r> oh, ok
[19:52] <wkr4k4r> thanks anyways
[19:54] <Rangar> yes.. u can think of Dr_Rambo as our "groupie"
[19:54] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.bscgames.com/dx_sdk_vb.asp
[19:54] <Dr_Rambo> The DirectX® 8.1 Visual Basic® SDK
[19:55] <Dr_Rambo> "Visual BASIC SDK" kinda odd
[19:55] <Dr_Rambo> not sure if it's the real SDK
[19:55] <Rangar> we actually caught Dr_Rambo one night dancing around his room while strummin
[19:56] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[19:57] * Dr_Rambo sings "I am the dancing queen"
[19:59] <Rangar> you're in australia... great choice of words, You could not have done better
[20:02] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[20:05] <Dr_Rambo> "you are the dancing queen... young and sweet only seventeen... you can da
[20:06] <chandler9> HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE
[20:07] <Rangar> you can shut the hell up now ;)
[20:07] * Rangar shudders @ Abba
[20:08] * Dr_Rambo get a megaphone
[20:09] <Rangar> oh, you'll GET IT alright, and where I put it.. it will take the surgeons 6
[20:09] * Dr_Rambo sings into Rangar's ear "YOU ARE THE DANCCCCING QUEEEEEN"
[20:36] <TCBlue> hi
[20:37] <Rangar> oh darn, not you again... I had thought you had ben kidnaped by a species of
[20:38] <Dr_Rambo> he just ran away from the loonie bin
[20:38] <TCBlue> :] just like that episode of futurama
[20:38] <TCBlue> where bender becoems pheroah
[20:39] <TCBlue> Dr_Rambo : I'm merely studying them
[20:39] <TCBlue> the other TC team member resents me ;d
[20:39] * TCBlue is now known as ArcticBLU
[20:40] <ArcticBLU> do any of you know something about loonie bins that i should know ? :)
[20:40] <ArcticBLU> btw what do you guys do for a living?
[20:41] <Rangar> well, Dr_Rambo is on the game, thats why he isn't here at nights.. at nights
[20:41] <ArcticBLU> O_o
[20:41] <Dr_Rambo> we do everything except analysing loonies
[20:42] <Rangar> yes, i don't anal anyone!
[20:42] <ArcticBLU> or lyse them i might imagine!
[20:42] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[20:42] <ArcticBLU> :D
[20:42] <Dr_Rambo> Rangar anal his furry friends
[20:43] <Dr_Rambo> da sheepz
[20:44] <Rangar> Rambo: did u see muttonbone.com?
[20:44] <Rangar> RIGHT up your ally I thought!
[20:44] <Dr_Rambo> lol
[20:45] <Dr_Rambo> muttons.. hmmmm
[20:49] <cstyle> hey :D
[21:08] <Ziggy-> www.ziggyware.com/ziggywareimages/dice.jpg
[21:08] <Ziggy-> woot
[21:08] <Ziggy-> got some fancy normal mapping in my xna dice stuff :D
[21:09] <chandler9> QUIET U
[21:15] <Dr_Rambo> I don't see normal mapping
[21:15] <Dr_Rambo> where
[21:21] <J-Rod> wow, that is FANCY
[21:25] <Ziggy-> :D
[21:26] <J-Rod> I think those dice are loaded
[21:27] <Rangar> so, Zigmeister plays with xna eh
[21:32] <Ziggy-> yesh
[21:32] <Ziggy-> www.ziggyware.com
[21:32] <Rangar> how do u find it?
[21:51] <MistaN> HI!
[21:51] <MistaN> who's all here?
[21:51] <MistaN> come one, come all!
[21:52] <ArcticBLU> hi
[21:52] <PitDroid> privet, ArcticBLU
[21:52] <MistaN> well i need some help :D
[21:52] <ArcticBLU> in what area ?
[21:52] <ArcticBLU> I can help maybe :)
[21:52] <MistaN> ok, i just started to learn programming in school (Art institute of atlanta)
[21:52] <MistaN> for game art and design :)
[21:52] <ArcticBLU> yes ?
[21:53] <MistaN> I KNOW HOW TO PROGRAM "HELLO WORLD"
[21:53] * MistaN laughs to himself
[21:53] <MistaN> well ummm, I'm ordered to program tic tac toe
[21:53] <ArcticBLU> yes ? :P
[21:53] <ArcticBLU> ooh
[21:53] <ArcticBLU> want me to program that for you ?
[21:54] <ArcticBLU> or want an explaination ?
[21:54] <MistaN> noo, dont program for me
[21:54] <MistaN> i need to learn this stuff, that's cheating
[21:54] <ArcticBLU> ok first
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> you need to be able to dedect clicks
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> most clicks
[21:55] <MistaN> huh?
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> also do you need AI ?
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> or is it out right 2 player
[21:55] <MistaN> no ai
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> ok
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> so it's 2 player
[21:55] <MistaN> yea
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> well you could do it a few ways
[21:55] <MistaN> i know how to delare a 3x3 array and stuff
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> would you rather use the mouse or keyboard ?
[21:55] <ArcticBLU> ok
[21:55] <MistaN> c++ by the way (visual c++)
[21:55] <MistaN> keyboard, input
[21:56] <ArcticBLU> thats not even required
[21:56] <MistaN> i have to do it with c__
[21:56] <MistaN> c++
[21:56] <ArcticBLU> use XOs[9];
[21:56] <ArcticBLU> and draw each 3 in a row
[21:56] <ArcticBLU> think rows and collums
[21:56] <MistaN> yea, i got all of that and stuff
[21:56] <MistaN> well, let me pull out my psuedo code
[21:58] <MistaN> a big problem of mines was that i missed the 1st class...we have 4 hour clas
[21:59] <MistaN> so i missed most of the syntax stuff...im getting alot of it now
[21:59] <MistaN> but there are still some hit and miss things going on
[21:59] <MistaN> my professor says that i have the mind for programming, its just that im lat
[21:59] <MistaN> im just having problems with the syntax
[22:00] <MistaN> im pretty good with concepts though
[22:00] <MistaN> ok, let me specify my main problems
[22:00] <MistaN> still there?
[22:02] <MistaN> :(
[22:03] <MistaN> anybody?
[22:04] <MistaN> oh and by the way arcticblu, i was thinking of a 3x3 array...im guessing it
[22:04] <MistaN> with the labeling and all
[22:06] <MistaN> :(
[22:08] <MistaN> was i just lagging and couldnt see anybody's posts?
[22:08] <MistaN> or was everybody just not saying anything
[22:09] <MistaN> i guess it was the 2nd option
[22:10] <MistaN> anybody else want to try and take a stab at helping me program tic tac toe?
[22:11] <MistaN> :(
[22:11] <electron_> :P
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> back
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> it'
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> it's all easy :)
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> you'll see
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> best Icould do is code you a prototype
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> brb
[22:12] <MistaN> heh, ok...and then explain it to me?
[22:12] <ArcticBLU> yes
[22:12] <MistaN> i wont use your code...i promise
[22:13] <MistaN> maybe we could use the msn drawing board thing
[22:13] <MistaN> and go through it like that
[22:13] <ArcticBLU> np....will you be on a while ? I'm talking with an artist. yes....
[22:13] <MistaN> like how long?
[22:13] <ArcticBLU> 10 minutes
[22:13] <MistaN> yea, of course
[22:13] <MistaN> i have a couple of things to program
[22:13] <MistaN> :)
[22:19] <MistaN> wtf is with these disconnects :(
[22:27] <MistaN> im so excited :D...i hope i truely understand this stuff alot better after t
[22:29] <MistaN> then its on to mel scripting
[22:29] <MistaN> gasp
[22:35] <MistaN> just let me know when yoou get back :) i'll be here
[22:39] <MistaN> :O
[22:39] <ArcticBLU> hey
[22:39] <ArcticBLU> tic tac toe guy ?
[22:39] <ArcticBLU> pm me
[22:39] <ArcticBLU> brb
[22:40] <ArcticBLU> i did a long winded psuedocode for you and my pc shut down :)
[22:42] <MistaN> lol
[22:45] <MistaN> i pm's you
[22:46] <MistaN> pm'd
[22:46] <MistaN> :/
[22:48] <MistaN> do you have msn or yahoo or something?
[23:56] <ArcticBLU> hi
[23:56] <PitDroid> hello, ArcticBLU
Session Close: Thu Sep 07 00:00:00 2006