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Session Start: Fri Feb 08 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #gamecube
[11:59] * han_zi is now known as hanzi^
[13:44] <HarlockD> hello all
[13:45] <HarlockD> I am desperated looking for the japanese version of Sonic Gems...do you gu
[13:46] <HarlockD> I can't understand why is the PAL version so popular...USA Sonic CD ost su
[13:49] <Cyber_Axe> its region free
[13:49] <Cyber_Axe> run it on a japanese gamecube and it will play with the japanese audio
[13:49] <Cyber_Axe> aparently
[13:49] <HarlockD> nope: that's true only for the PS2 version
[13:50] <HarlockD> I have a PAL original
[13:50] <HarlockD> I mean, a Gamecube Sonic Gems original
[13:50] <Cyber_Axe> me too but i never play the crappy version of sonic cd included on sonic
[13:50] <Cyber_Axe> the verison in sonic gems is a crappy port of the pc version which is bug
[13:51] <HarlockD> why do you say it's crappy? it looks the same as the original to me...
[13:51] <Cyber_Axe> i just play it on an emulator with customised optimised sound track
[13:51] <Cyber_Axe> the water for example
[13:51] <Cyber_Axe> when you see the water the colour of the stuff idner the water is the sam
[13:51] <Cyber_Axe> its supposed to be dark
[13:51] <Cyber_Axe> there are other graphical glictches
[13:51] <Cyber_Axe> the only upside ot the sonic gems versin is the full intro sequence
[13:52] <HarlockD> well..I don't like playing on emulators on the PC
[13:52] <Cyber_Axe> actually i usualy play it on my gp2x when i play it
[13:52] <HarlockD> some minor visual glitches are not that important to me..
[13:53] <HarlockD> the NGC version is 60FPS
[13:53] <HarlockD> and the PC version was 30fps shit
[13:53] <Cyber_Axe> if renchi.com play-asia or ebay donst have jap version then your gonna be
[13:53] <HarlockD> none of them have it...
[13:53] <Cyber_Axe> the GCN version is 30fps,
[13:53] <Cyber_Axe> its 60hz
[13:54] <HarlockD> 60 hz and 60 fps
[13:54] <Cyber_Axe> only cos the hz doubles the game still plays and has internal framerate o
[13:55] <Cyber_Axe> all games are usualy 30fps but get doubled to 60fps on the tv itself not
[13:55] <HarlockD> scroll is too smoth to be 30 fps...
[13:55] <HarlockD> that's not true
[13:55] <HarlockD> most genesis games were 60 FPS
[13:55] <Cyber_Axe> thats called tripple buggering and such that removes screen tearing
[13:55] <Cyber_Axe> no they werent
[13:55] <Cyber_Axe> all megadrive games are 25 or 30ffps respectivly
[13:55] <Cyber_Axe> you obviously know nothing about refresh rates and such
[13:56] <Cyber_Axe> even modern day games are 25 or 30 fps depending on region
[13:56] <Cyber_Axe> only exception is pc
[13:56] <HarlockD> tripple what??? tripple buffering is for drawing frames on hidden surfaces
[13:56] <Cyber_Axe> pc has no limitations practically
[13:56] <HarlockD> what the...?
[13:56] <Cyber_Axe> no but emulation does on stuff like sonic gems
[13:56] <Cyber_Axe> and even then since its outputting at the natrive fps
[13:56] <Cyber_Axe> there wont be any screen tearing
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> because of vsync
[13:57] <HarlockD> Sonic games on genesis were 60 FPS...
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> wrong
[13:57] <HarlockD> please inform yourself better
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> for fuck sake
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> the genesis as you call it outputted at 60hz
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> but the games were 30fps
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> the pal version the megadrive outputs at 50hz
[13:57] <Cyber_Axe> and the games are 25fps
[13:57] <HarlockD> no...they were 60 pfs, and yes, the system outputs at 60hz..
[13:58] <Cyber_Axe> hwoever television outputs at a rate of 50 ot 60 fps
[13:58] <Cyber_Axe> which is probably where you are getting confused
[13:58] <HarlockD> I am not...
[13:58] <HarlockD> ok
[13:58] <Cyber_Axe> yes you are
[13:58] <HarlockD> look
[13:58] <HarlockD> you're right..
[14:00] <Cyber_Axe> the game runs at 30fps but the video signal is outputted at 60hz the sign
[14:01] <Cyber_Axe> modern pal tvs output at 100hz yet the games arent runnign at 100fps
[14:01] <Cyber_Axe> some us tvs i beleive output at 120hz
[14:02] <Cyber_Axe> the games arill run at 25 and 30fps respectivly they are merley quadruppl
[14:11] <HarlockD> look..I program JOGL (OpenGL bindings for Java) at work...I know what REAL
[14:19] <Cyber_Axe> yes cos Jave is a REAL comparison to Assembly based games, and i bet all
[14:26] <Cyber_Axe> ok i am wrong i lement
[14:26] <Cyber_Axe> i dont know why i throught it was halfed
[14:27] <Cyber_Axe> i think i was getting confused with video stupidly
[14:31] <Cyber_Axe> wb, if you missed what i last said i retracted my statment, i had apparen
[14:40] <Harlock_> what do you mean?
[14:41] <Cyber_Axe> i was getting mixed up with film video formats of 25 and 30fps
[14:42] <Harlock_> yes: I knew
[14:42] <Harlock_> no prob
[14:46] <Cyber_Axe> actually i think it was arcade resolutions, as a lot ot them ran at lower
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Session Close: Sat Feb 09 00:00:00 2008