IRC Chat Logs - An Archive of EFnet IRC Channels

Session Start: Tue Apr 11 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #EFnet
[00:03] * Nermal__ is now known as Nermal
[01:42] <scriptx> wow usenet is great when you actually find something worth while
[01:47] * _PufF- is now known as PufF-
[02:35] <floppy> come join irc.subdegree.com the place to be, fast, secure staff, users neede
[02:54] * m1keh is now known as mikeh
[03:54] <NumBhjem> is there any efnet servers that accepts connections on port 9000?
[03:54] * Frazzy- is now known as Frazzy
[03:59] <pettern> [12:47] *** [CONNECT] Unable to connect to IRC: Packet transfer error, clos
[04:07] <MrL0c0> tjena
[04:07] <MrL0c0> är det någon här?
[04:09] <mikeh> pettern: could be.
[04:18] <n0> moo
[05:05] <Nightfall> Channel Statistics Updated! http://www.nightfall.net/irc/stats/efnet.html
[05:32] <jilles> moo
[05:32] <SMeK> oink
[05:35] <cinu> hi i need a list o efnet servers please
[05:35] <SMeK> www.efnet.org
[05:35] <cinu> 10x
[05:36] <n0> 11x
[05:36] <n0> i win
[05:36] <cinu> :))
[05:36] <SMeK> infinityx
[05:37] <n0> nerdx
[05:37] <SMeK> :(
[05:37] <n0> CHUCK NORRIS COUNTED TO INFINITE!
[05:37] <n0> TWO TIMES.
[05:37] <SMeK> he didnt
[05:37] <SMeK> he cant count over 3
[05:38] <n0> sure he can
[07:43] <Xv2-4> ?? fags
[07:44] <mikeh> Your mom.
[07:44] <Xv2-4> mikeh Go back to #bearcave
[07:44] <mikeh> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:44] <Xv2-4> take n0 with you too
[07:44] <Xv2-4> laterz
[07:44] <mikeh> only you
[07:44] <mikeh> you fit in my suitcase
[07:45] <mikeh> haha
[07:47] <bx> http://www.twizted.nl/main/?id=mikeh
[09:09] * joppa|aw is now known as Joppa
[10:02] <Phantomix> hi
[10:14] * Joppa is now known as joppa|aw
[10:20] <johnstone> This channel is not for talking.
[10:21] <mikeh> you must been kidding
[10:22] <_static_> quit ruining the silence!
[10:28] <mikeh> could someone kill 'skessa' ?
[10:28] <mikeh> thanks.
[10:39] <net`> hey
[10:39] <net`> ircops here ?
[10:39] <mikeh> no
[10:40] <mikeh> try /stats p your nick
[10:40] <net`> I need one freebsd
[10:40] <mikeh> ?
[10:40] <net`> can someone help me
[10:40] <mikeh> one freebsd?
[10:40] <net`> or a shell
[10:40] <net`> yes
[10:40] <_static_> need one freebsd?
[10:40] <mikeh> try #bearcave
[10:40] <net`> yes
[10:40] <mikeh> they give out free shells
[10:40] <_static_> why do you need a shell from opers?
[10:40] <_static_> so does #2,000
[10:40] <net`> i think you are good
[10:40] <mikeh> yep
[10:40] <net`> once i will be grateful with them
[10:41] <net`> who got many shells
[10:41] <net`> a ?
[10:41] <net`> :>>
[10:41] <mikeh> <mikeh> try #bearcave
[10:41] <net`> i am Claudia from undernet.org
[10:41] <net`> mikeh i tried
[10:41] <net`> nobody answering me
[10:41] <mikeh> try asking longer..
[10:41] <net`> but you ?
[10:41] <net`> do you have ?
[10:42] <mikeh> only phrack.org :x
[10:42] <net`> * Dns unable to resolve phrack.org
[10:42] <net`> mikeh :)
[10:42] <mikeh> *sigh*
[10:43] <net`> so no help here
[10:43] <mikeh> try corp.efnet.org
[10:43] <mikeh> .net
[10:47] <_static_> why on earth would I give a shell to someone I don't know begging on irc
[10:47] <mikeh> Indeed.
[10:51] <query> not even me? :=)
[10:51] <query> jk
[11:05] <query> yawn
[11:06] <no[fear]> =)
[11:18] * lyness is now known as lynessAFK
[11:35] * _glenn is now known as Glenn\
[12:16] * mads_ is now known as mads
[12:29] * lynessAFK is now known as lyness
[12:38] <vx0> "USING ATOMIC ENERGY IS OUR CERTAIN RIGHT"
[12:38] <vx0> Iran. Gotta luv em
[12:39] <vx0> Godfather Berlusconi not stepping off
[12:39] <vx0> Business as usual.
[12:41] <mutante> yep, just a clanwar in .it
[12:41] <vx0> Hispanics doing marches and demonstrations. Give it about 3 or 4 years and wit
[12:41] <vx0> Houston has been for almost 2 years now
[12:42] <vx0> Nice to live in a country that is run by citizens of other countries
[12:42] <vx0> As soon as the hispanics get a critical mass, they will vote themselves cofee a
[12:43] <vx0> That will start a 5 year countdown to financial meltdown for the US
[12:43] <vx0> Nice
[12:44] <jilles> US is probably already spending too much money currently
[12:44] <vx0> I will probably live in Australia or NZ by then
[12:44] <vx0> If we can get the illegals LEGAL and paying into the system instead of supporti
[12:45] <vx0> But, I have learned not to expect much from the US government
[12:46] <AndroSyn> hopefully it won't be made *worse* than it is
[12:46] <vx0> Who knows
[12:46] <AndroSyn> best case scenario you get millions of new taxpayers
[12:46] <vx0> Human nature is to take the path of least resistance. Latin America has refine
[12:47] <AndroSyn> true enough
[12:47] <vx0> My bet is that there will be new tax revenue that will be offset by 10 or 20 ti
[12:48] <AndroSyn> though in quite a few states those entitlement programs already exist anyw
[12:48] <vx0> Meanwhile, my taxes will go up, my standard of living will go down, and I will
[12:48] <vx0> People that are not used to democracy will always start off with the kneejerk a
[12:49] <vx0> Because now they can
[12:49] <AndroSyn> though you assume that they'll be any more inclined to vote than the avera
[12:49] <vx0> That lasts until the financial markets collapse.
[12:50] <vx0> Andro: It is something for nothing in their viewpoint. These are very poor peo
[12:50] <AndroSyn> i don't think its going to be the fatal blow to the US that you are making
[12:50] <vx0> Fatal is a relative term.
[12:51] <vx0> A comparison to history. Anytime a group of people this size organize into a p
[12:51] <vx0> It is polarizing.
[12:52] <vx0> always has been
[12:52] <vx0> The producers will get shut out of the system and will stop producing. It is t
[12:53] <AndroSyn> all because of some immigrants
[12:53] <AndroSyn> like those damn diegos did, the irish too!
[12:53] <vx0> 12,000,000 of them
[12:53] <vx0> This number has no precedent
[12:53] <AndroSyn> they're already here though, thats the thing
[12:53] <vx0> Exactly.
[12:54] <vx0> And we have a president about to give them all legitimacy and a political voice
[12:54] <AndroSyn> and the sky hasn't fallen yet
[12:54] <vx0> As usual, the fucking government is trying to fix symptoms instead of problems
[12:55] <vx0> If life was good enough in Mexico, people would fuckign STAY in Mexico.
[12:55] <vx0> so...
[12:55] <vx0> We need to be inveting in Mexico.
[12:55] <vx0> investing
[12:55] <AndroSyn> the thing is though, they're obviously doing work that other people aren't
[12:56] <vx0> NAFTA is a waste of time because it was a unilateral concession on the part of
[12:56] <AndroSyn> give them some sort of legal status and tax them like everyone else
[12:58] * query slaps vx
[12:59] <AndroSyn> i'm not saying give them citizenship, i personally liked the idea of a gue
[12:59] <vx0> me too
[13:00] <skysel> whats hostname lenght limit? so you dont get "your hostname is too long, ign
[13:00] <AndroSyn> 63 characters
[13:01] <query> hi AndroSyn
[13:01] <AndroSyn> hiya query
[13:01] <skysel> AndroSyn no matter the dots?
[13:01] <skysel> so its char limitation
[13:01] <AndroSyn> the dots count as part of the length
[13:01] <AndroSyn> the dots are characters too :P
[13:02] <skysel> ye ye
[13:02] <skysel> hehe
[13:02] <AndroSyn> though why on earth do you need a hostname that long
[13:02] <skysel> :) just being curious
[13:02] <skysel> thanks
[13:03] <AndroSyn> yay...more dns spam
[13:03] <AndroSyn> :/
[13:03] <SMeK> joy to th eworld
[13:05] <Nightfall> Channel Statistics Updated! http://www.nightfall.net/irc/stats/efnet.html
[13:13] <jasee> hallo
[13:16] <mikeh> keke
[13:22] <beata> kafid?
[13:22] <olin> n/m
[13:22] * beata pokes dalek
[13:22] * beata pokes dalek
[13:23] <mikeh> poke it harder
[13:23] <olin> D:
[13:26] <pettern> is there any list of efnet bans and reasons?
[13:26] <jilles> nope
[13:45] * pettern is now known as pettern__
[13:47] <Kenshou`> hey
[13:48] <Kenshou`> can one of you ops give out vhosts?
[13:48] <jilles> nope
[13:48] <Mafaioz> Get a shell
[13:48] <Mafaioz> And psybnc..
[13:48] <Kenshou`> does it cost?
[13:48] <Zyrkon> mostly, yes
[13:48] <Zyrkon> but not that much
[13:48] <Zyrkon> ~$0,50 per month
[13:49] <Mafaioz> www.sh3lls.net i think..
[13:49] <Mafaioz> have a check..
[13:49] <Zyrkon> http://www.bouncer4you.biz/v5/eng/
[13:49] <Mafaioz> they are cheap..and stabile..
[13:51] <Zyrkon> oh thats a nice one
[13:51] <Zyrkon> u.are.a.fucktard.net
[13:52] <Zyrkon> never used
[13:53] <Kenshou`> lol
[13:53] <Kenshou`> free?
[13:54] <Kenshou`> hey wth
[13:54] <Zyrkon> no
[13:54] <mikeh> 50
[13:54] <mikeh> CENT
[13:54] <mikeh> PER
[13:54] <mikeh> MONTH
[13:54] <mikeh> read
[13:54] <Kenshou`> oh ok ok alright
[13:54] <Kenshou`> that's not alot
[13:54] <Kenshou`> what's the catch?
[13:54] <Zyrkon> thank you mikeh :)
[13:54] <mikeh> http://www.bouncer4you.biz/v5/eng/?c=produkt&p=8
[13:54] <Zyrkon> you're my mate
[13:54] <Kenshou`> ok thanks
[13:54] * mikeh np: Nirvana = Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam
[13:55] <mikeh> Zyrkon *g*
[13:55] <Zyrkon> kenshou: i see you start at this... but beware
[13:55] <Zyrkon> i'm paying ~$70 per month for some bg-processes
[13:56] <Zyrkon> so if you pay 50cents.. it's not that much, issnt it?
[13:59] <Kenshou`> nope
[14:00] * Kenshou` is now known as Keosho
[14:01] * Keosho is now known as Kenjoo
[14:03] <CC40> how do i register my nickname?
[14:03] <f00f> CC40: EFNet does not provide channel or nickname registration services.
[14:03] <vxPTP> There are no channel/nickname services on EFnet. See http://irchelp.org/noser
[14:03] <CC40> ohhh
[14:03] <CC40> can register a channel?
[14:03] <vxPTP> There are no channel/nickname services on EFnet. See http://irchelp.org/noser
[14:03] <f00f> CC40: EFNet does not provide channel or nickname registration services.
[14:03] <CC40> oh ok
[14:03] <Zyrkon> haha
[14:03] <Zyrkon> :D
[14:03] <CC40> lol
[14:03] <evilicey> hah
[14:04] <Zyrkon> he found 3 triggers in half a minute ;D
[14:04] <evilicey> :>
[14:04] <evilicey> But does he relize it?
[14:04] <Zyrkon> probably not
[14:05] <evilicey> he probably thinks that vxPTP is mean :)
[14:05] <Zyrkon> vxPTP IS mean ;D
[14:05] <Zyrkon> hehehehe
[14:05] <evilicey> Well good then
[14:08] <Snet2> whats sll port on irc.servercentral.net ?? ne one know
[14:08] <jilles> that's because no efnet server provides ssl
[14:09] <jilles> (assuming that's what you mean)
[14:09] <Snet2> ah ok
[14:09] <Snet2> well that sucks then
[14:09] <Snet2> thanks man
[14:23] <Kenjoo> how do i get ident on this server?
[14:23] <Kenjoo> nickserv doesnt seem to function
[14:23] <olin> hehe
[14:23] <olin> This is EFnet.
[14:23] <olin> It has no services.
[14:23] <Kenjoo> lmao
[14:24] <olin> rolfz0r
[14:34] * Kenjoo is now known as Kenshiro
[15:02] <mikeh> Ajuus
[15:09] <`underOAT> Can someone tell me about botnets ?
[15:10] <jasee> no
[15:10] <jasee> but i can fist you if you'd like
[15:10] <evilicey> haha
[15:10] <`underOAT> Someone told me to come here and ask o.O
[15:11] <`underOAT> ok you guys are boring
[15:11] <`underOAT> bye
[15:11] <`underOAT> noooooobs
[15:11] <jasee> deepthroat.
[15:12] <olin> jasee: mmm
[15:12] <jasee> hello, peon :)
[15:12] * olin rubs his willy whilst looking at jasee
[15:12] <olin> I don't have voice, noob ;P
[15:13] <jasee> i dont have ops
[15:13] <jasee> :)
[15:13] <olin> Why do you need it, when you have my willy to play with?
[15:13] * jasee plays
[15:14] <jasee> give it to me!
[15:14] <olin> You can only have my virtual willy.
[15:15] * jasee abuses olin's virtual willy
[15:15] * olin moans
[15:47] * vx0 changes topic to 'Welcome to #efnet. Current topic: Willies and access to willies.
[15:58] <hypermatt> fuck you Thero
[15:58] <hypermatt> fuck you Thero
[15:58] <hypermatt> fuck you Thero
[15:59] <olin> Can we not make that a perm ban?
[16:18] <MornStar> stop inviting me to places, Tvwize you cunt.
[16:18] <olin> haha
[16:18] <olin> Welcome to IRC.
[16:18] <MornStar> haha, fuck you
[16:19] <MornStar> mexican bitch
[16:19] <Bumsefar> thought you needed ops to invite
[16:19] <olin> Yes, mexican.
[16:34] <t1ggergrm> operit
[16:46] * t1ggergrm is now known as tiggergrm
[17:09] * ne0_ is now known as karlin
[17:11] * seasharp_ is now known as SeaSharp
[17:13] * karlin is now known as n0
[17:18] <query> ...
[17:18] <ezam> ,,,
[17:19] <query> waddup ezam
[17:19] * query sliter med migrene
[17:19] <query> faen ass
[17:19] <query> :\
[17:19] <ezam> usj
[17:19] <ezam> det suger
[17:19] <query> no kidding
[17:19] <query> jeg får det kraftigt også
[17:20] <Frazzy> norske folk her også:P
[17:20] <query> :|
[17:20] <query> nei
[17:20] <query> bare later som
[17:20] <query> :)
[17:20] <query> jk
[17:20] <Frazzy> yeah
[17:20] <ezam> HAH! We lurt you
[17:21] * AndroSyn burps
[17:22] * query pets AndroSyn
[17:23] <vxPTP> chat.efnet.org user A_Zero originating IP = 152.163.100.66
[17:23] <vxPTP> Reverse lookup returns: cache-rtc-ab02.proxy.aol.com - Checking current chann
[17:23] <query> vx0. yeh we all lub you :)
[17:25] * mads is now known as _mads
[17:25] * _mads is now known as mads
[17:27] <runedude> you're bonkers
[17:38] <h3isg4y> i was killed by an oper for talking gay in a gay channel is this oper abuse
[17:39] <Mafaioz> Who knows..
[17:39] <_static_> no
[17:39] <query> deppends
[17:39] <Zyrkon> no
[17:39] <ribiff> what are willies?
[17:39] <h3isg4y> the heebygeebies
[17:39] <Zyrkon> but say us first
[17:40] <Zyrkon> what oper is in a gay channel? :)
[17:40] <Mafaioz> Is Zyrkon gay ? =)
[17:40] <Zyrkon> and we will talk to him/her :)
[17:40] <Zyrkon> ^^ no.
[17:41] <h3isg4y> Closing Link: 0-1pool196-173.nas112.chicago3.il.us.da.qwest.net (Killed (Hn
[17:41] <h3isg4y> that one i guess
[17:41] <h3isg4y> i didnt flood
[17:41] <h3isg4y> unless one line per minute is flooding???
[17:42] <n0> it does deppend
[17:42] <Zyrkon> ohh :(
[17:42] <n0> but by your nick i can see that you were prolly trolling the channel
[17:42] <AndroSyn> h3isg4y: i think your complains are going to fall on deaf ears
[17:43] <h3isg4y> that's ok
[17:43] <h3isg4y> just thought i'd check
[17:43] <h3isg4y> i'll go back to eating my candy buttons
[17:45] <h3isg4y> and milk duds
[17:45] <h3isg4y> easter is good
[17:54] * _Nightha| is now known as Nightha|k
[18:14] <adent> #xbins
[18:17] * kylemech is now known as MECHLER
[18:17] * MECHLER is now known as kylemech
[19:07] <R-WaT> how do i register a channel?
[19:07] <f00f> R-WaT: EFNet does not provide channel or nickname registration services.
[19:07] <R-WaT> so i would need a bnc?
[19:07] <R-WaT> to stay on 24/7? :O
[19:11] <mads> R-WaT, indeed.
[19:11] <R-WaT> whydoesnt efnet provide those though?
[19:11] <mads> well
[19:11] <mads> in 2006 thats just because thats EFnet is.
[19:12] <f00f> R-WaT: we dont believe in nick and chan ownership
[19:12] <f00f> R-WaT: nick is like a name, people can and do change them
[19:12] <mads> but back in the days it was because most efnet users loved drama and general i
[19:12] <array> f00f!
[19:12] <f00f> and as for channels, if you dont have the userbase, then maybe you shouldnt ha
[19:12] <mads> takeovers, packeting, loved it.
[19:12] <f00f> cheers matey. arg!
[19:12] <array> Do you want to see our webcam? :)
[19:12] <f00f> array: pls
[19:12] <array> http://webcam.tg06.gathering.org
[19:12] <z2e> basically because it never did
[19:12] <z2e> and so it never will
[19:12] <mads> and so you couldnt really take over a channel the same way if there was servic
[19:12] <f00f> array: sweet. where are the nerds?
[19:13] <array> Not here yet.
[19:13] <f00f> show me
[19:13] <f00f> go there
[19:13] <f00f> wave to me
[19:13] <array> Coming in 4.7 hours or something
[19:13] <f00f> ic
[19:13] <f00f> array: go respond to my inquiry on the other net
[19:13] <array> Okay.
[19:14] <mads> sup holm
[19:14] <array> TG
[19:14] <f00f> cheers mads
[19:14] <f00f> i dont believe we've met?
[19:15] <array> f00f: I have a webcam here, I will find the URL
[19:16] * NeGat|vO- is now known as negativo
[19:16] <R-WaT> <array> http://webcam.tg06.gathering.org
[19:16] <R-WaT> whats that?
[19:16] <array> I webcam over the hall I am in
[19:16] <array> But it updates like every 5th minute
[19:17] <f00f> ahh
[19:17] <f00f> i got a cam sitting at the engineering building
[19:17] <f00f> that pumps out a live mjpeg feed
[19:17] <array> I WONDER where the hell the link to this webcam is
[19:17] <array> I can check the log
[19:17] <f00f> yes you cna
[19:19] <array> I can't find it
[19:19] <f00f> hah dude
[19:19] <f00f> wtf
[19:19] <f00f> green cast
[19:19] <f00f> on the cam
[19:19] <f00f> now gone
[19:19] <f00f> can you up the quality on the cam?
[19:19] <f00f> like decrease jpeg compression level
[19:19] <array> 05:19:31 up 1 day, 7:22, 3 users, load average: 7117.62, 5012.32, 2371.61
[19:20] <array> HMMM
[19:20] <f00f> hah lol wtf
[19:20] <array> No, I do not have access to the box
[19:20] <f00f> how do you have 7k processes running on it?
[19:20] <f00f> and it's steadily >>>
[19:20] <array> 7117 in load
[19:20] <f00f> yeah
[19:20] <f00f> and that means
[19:20] <f00f> 7117 threads
[19:20] <f00f> competing
[19:21] <myrdd1n> wtf? I thought load average only went from 0-100
[19:21] <f00f> so you must got some fork bombs
[19:21] <f00f> nah
[19:21] <myrdd1n> how the fuck is it 7000
[19:21] <f00f> it'll go higher
[19:21] <array> It's a quad opteron
[19:21] <f00f> usually it's 0.00 hopefully
[19:21] <array> with like 4GB of ram
[19:21] <f00f> since cpu's sit idle most of the time
[19:21] <array> .... :P
[19:21] <f00f> yeah that's ok
[19:21] <f00f> i've worked on a quad-xeon with HT (8 cpu's total), but never seen loadavg abo
[19:22] <query> hi f00f
[19:22] <array> Some perl script looped or something
[19:22] <f00f> heya query
[19:22] <array> It's the Tech:Server guys
[19:22] <f00f> array: yeah maybe a few trillion of em
[19:22] <f00f> yeah club em
[19:22] <array> They were just in here laughing
[19:22] <f00f> whats going on query mah man, how you been long time where you been hiding?
[19:22] <array> I love this management
[19:22] <array> We're delegating like hell
[19:22] <f00f> heh
[19:23] <array> Just heard on the radios:
[19:23] <dadwdeas> how am i going to make my cd rom software copy to my harddisk but make it
[19:23] <array> "Tech:Net, it's Tech:Server", "Tech:Net responding."
[19:23] <array> "The crew area is complaining that they do not have network."
[19:23] <array> "Ok, copy"
[19:23] <array> "Tech:Support, it's Tech:Net"
[19:23] <array> "Responding"
[19:24] <array> "The crew area do not have network, can you look at it?"
[19:24] <array> "Ok, copy"
[19:24] <array> "Fredrik, it's the Tech:Support Chief"
[19:24] <array> "Responding"
[19:24] <myrdd1n> goddamn, that's too much formality for me
[19:24] <array> "The crew area is without network, can you look at it?"
[19:24] <array> "Ok, copy"
[19:24] <array> Haha
[19:24] <f00f> hahhaah
[19:24] <array> On THE SAME CHANNEL
[19:24] <array> I almost pissed myself
[19:25] <f00f> so what do u do at this gathering
[19:25] <f00f> ?
[19:29] <myrdd1n> His network must be down. Time to radio Tech:Net
[19:43] <R-WaT> is it possible to hide my IP without a bnc?
[19:43] <mads> no.
[19:48] <query> yes
[19:48] <query> dont show ip on a ircnet/web
[19:48] <query> :)
[19:49] <query> mads. liar!
[19:49] <query> hehe
[19:52] <dubkat> heh
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:49:10][mlplguy46] can we just assume that when it comes to computers i w
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:49:17][mlplguy46] wanna discuss literature?
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:49:22][ dubkat] what's that?
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:49:35][ dubkat] i read technical manuals
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:49:36][mlplguy46] something that makes ME feel smart
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:50:09][mlplguy46] are they printed in 0's and 1's to make it easier for
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:50:23][ dubkat] no. HEX
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:50:36][ dubkat] you can fit 16x more information on the page
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:51:37][ dubkat] that was a joke.
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:51:49][mlplguy46] i figured
[19:52] <dubkat> [22:51:52][mlplguy46] but i did not get it
[19:56] <R-WaT> how come i cant have my name as CyberCast|r-wat^ms ?
[19:56] * R-WaT is now known as CyberCast
[19:56] <CyberCast> =(
[19:56] * CyberCast is now known as R-WaT
[19:56] <AndroSyn> 9 character nick limit here on efnet
[19:57] <f00f> a lame limit, but since efnet is full of lamers, i must agree it is a wise cho
[19:59] * R-WaT is now known as cCast|R-W
[19:59] <cCast|R-W> cute.
[19:59] * cCast|R-W is now known as cCast|RW
[20:00] * cCast|RW is now known as cC|R-WaT
[20:01] <array> f00f: I am working with the network
[20:02] <f00f> do some packeting
[20:02] <f00f> do some thrill stuff
[20:02] <f00f> come on
[20:02] <f00f> pound a few core routers on the net
[20:02] <f00f> wake up the netops
[20:02] <f00f> an idle network is a boring network
[20:02] <AndroSyn> f00f: anybody who thinks they need more than 9 characters for a nick is mi
[20:03] <f00f> AndroSyn: i love you androsyn, but i dont think that's true :D
[20:03] <AndroSyn> just need to be creative
[20:03] <f00f> merely picking the square of a prime number does not establish a clear limit
[20:04] <f00f> i think it's more of a "it's always been 9, so let's leave it at that" issue
[20:04] <f00f> well intrinsically, it's stupid to have such a limit to begin with
[20:04] <f00f> the ircd's can handle dynamic memory management
[20:04] <f00f> i understand mem alloc and all, but as it's been done as a #define in the past
[20:04] <f00f> i find that quite lame
[20:05] <f00f> of course this is quasi-off topic
[20:05] <AndroSyn> well ircds here on efnet allocate the whole thing as a block of memory
[20:05] <AndroSyn> along with the entire struct Client
[20:05] <AndroSyn> for one main reason, its a lot faster
[20:05] <Gekko> I'm a skilled ninja
[20:06] <f00f> AndroSyn: yeah i assume we're talking hybrid and ratbox families.
[20:06] <array> f00f: Right!
[20:06] <AndroSyn> and even if efnet *wanted* to change it, all of the servers would need to
[20:06] <f00f> yeah i've briefly glanced at their operation, but it's such a bad solution to
[20:06] <AndroSyn> at the same time
[20:06] <array> then you would die
[20:06] <f00f> AndroSyn: yeah that's the biggest obstacle i see
[20:07] <AndroSyn> the ircd can easily support changing the limit and some people do
[20:07] <f00f> whence it's not worth the effort unless the limit can be removed
[20:07] <AndroSyn> but the memory allocation methods are still going to be the same as curren
[20:07] <f00f> i'd like to see a channel mode that limits nick length
[20:07] <array> ska æ dræp dæ?
[20:07] <f00f> that may as well be AndroSyn
[20:07] <Gekko> array: I'm a skilled ninja!
[20:07] <f00f> man i saw the gekko today on tv, he was cool <3
[20:07] <ULTRAKILL> yeh dude
[20:07] <array> haha
[20:07] <Gekko> anyone need help?
[20:07] <array> quai fucked up the board
[20:08] <AndroSyn> f00f: you can do that with bans and ban exempts :P
[20:08] <array> oh no
[20:08] <array> it wasn't quai
[20:08] <f00f> AndroSyn: yeah, although it becomes cumbersome if NICKLEN is removed :P
[20:08] <f00f> da board?
[20:08] <Gekko> f00f: what did you think? ;)
[20:08] <Gekko> pretty? hihi
[20:08] <AndroSyn> having nicklens be arbitrarly long is bad for a number of reasons
[20:09] <AndroSyn> surely you can think of a few
[20:09] <f00f> surely there must be an upper bound without a doubt
[20:09] <f00f> but i think the limit can be imposed on a much smaller scale
[20:09] <AndroSyn> so that puts us in the same boat we are in now :P
[20:09] <f00f> as opposed to being network-wide
[20:09] <f00f> yeah i know... if we had to do it all over again
[20:10] <AndroSyn> lots of people think they've got a better way to do it :P
[20:10] <Gekko> how do you change nicks to @nick? It doesn't work here
[20:10] <f00f> AndroSyn: if we want to talk about migration, we could build in support for a
[20:10] <f00f> so which ever *method* is chosen
[20:11] <ULTRAKILL> how do I send viruses from irc? /help
[20:11] <f00f> you can upgrade the entire network to use the new *method* at the same instant
[20:11] <AndroSyn> well the nickname namespace is something that the hard upper limit needs t
[20:11] <f00f> AndroSyn: right. although come to think of it, i dont think there should be a
[20:11] <f00f> ie. they should not need to be globally unique
[20:11] <AndroSyn> then you end up with something that isn't irc
[20:11] <f00f> i like the idea of TS6's UID for users
[20:12] <AndroSyn> you need to have some sort of globally unique identifier
[20:12] <f00f> AndroSyn: what you end up with is an improved IRC, that could be compatible wi
[20:12] <AndroSyn> UIDs are internal and are used for particular reasons
[20:12] <AndroSyn> mostly to deal with collisions in a more reasonable fashion
[20:13] <AndroSyn> any sort of chat medium is going to need something globally unique
[20:13] <f00f> AndroSyn: i think they should be externalized, that is each *client* gets his
[20:13] <f00f> the nick is merely a local identifier that *maps* to this UID
[20:13] <AndroSyn> and then how do you find a person you normally talk to :P
[20:14] <myrdd1n> f00f: where would the maps for each nickname be kept?
[20:14] <f00f> well since in my 'client' may want to call *you* andrew instead of AndroSyn, s
[20:15] <f00f> myrdd1n: well i think nicknames could be gotten rid of totally on the server-s
[20:15] <f00f> of course clients could advertise a 'preferred nick' (like a realname, but a n
[20:15] <AndroSyn> so basically, you are reinventing icq :P
[20:15] <myrdd1n> Sounds too complicated. What's wrong with the way things are now. Just be h
[20:15] <f00f> my whole point is, it could still be compatible with today's IRC, with little
[20:16] <f00f> AndroSyn: well, maybe... but ICQ is proprietary
[20:16] <f00f> :P
[20:16] <f00f> myrdd1n: that's the classic argument. and that's the exact reason why it will
[20:16] <f00f> most of the ircd devs have that attitude, whence we have not seen such a solut
[20:16] <AndroSyn> well then you make irc into something not irc :P
[20:16] <myrdd1n> Then maybge I'm right
[20:16] <f00f> AndroSyn: well maybe :P maybe not.
[20:16] <AndroSyn> people like irc because it is irc
[20:17] <f00f> i'm trying to *evolve* IRC
[20:17] <f00f> well the goal would be to fix the remaining problems in IRC
[20:17] <f00f> i dont think there are many
[20:17] <f00f> and i still think it could be IRC
[20:17] <f00f> the *fun* would not be lost :D
[20:17] <AndroSyn> i don't think mucking with the nickname space is a good way to evolve it
[20:18] <f00f> well believe it or not, nicknames *are* owned on EFNet even though we don't ha
[20:18] <f00f> they are owned by an *instance* of a client connection
[20:18] <f00f> which also involves nickname changes
[20:18] <f00f> what is the purpose of a nickname really?
[20:18] <f00f> it is to identify a person
[20:18] <AndroSyn> they aren't owned, they are just used for a short period of time :P
[20:19] <myrdd1n> yea, they're owned by the packet kiddies that cry when someone takes theyr
[20:19] <myrdd1n> oh my!
[20:19] <f00f> but would it not be more beneficial to be able to *change* your nickname, with
[20:19] <AndroSyn> borrowed from the network for a while
[20:19] <f00f> surely it should be automatic
[20:19] * Disconnected
[20:21] * Attempting to rejoin channel #EFnet
[20:21] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
Session Close: Wed Apr 12 00:00:00 2006