Session Start: Mon Aug 11 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:40] <GoulJusan> meow
[00:44] <Anvile> really
[00:45] <GoulJusan> anvil!
[00:45] <Anvile> lo
[00:45] <d0c> 'lo GoulJusan
[00:46] <GoulJusan> wotzup doc?
[00:49] <d0c> work is so boring...
[00:50] <d0c> well, i call it work. but i don't even know what project i'm supposed to work o
[00:50] <GoulJusan> since when it is not
[00:50] <GoulJusan> lol
[00:50] <GoulJusan> u dunno bout it yet? why not?
[00:50] <Bercon-> Its summer
[00:52] <GoulJusan> it's fall already :D
[00:54] <d0c> everyone who might have a clue is not back from holiday yet
[00:54] <d0c> not that i'm complaining. i have some reading up to do on the intarwebz after m
[00:55] <kbotnen> dont you have an 8ball you can ask?
[00:55] <kbotnen> "Am I going to do some sensible today?" "Probably not!"
[00:57] <GoulJusan> have i turned gay from waiting "hell ya!"
[00:57] <d0c> lol
[00:58] <Anselmo> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=59&t=662712
[00:59] <Bercon-> Intresting
[01:00] <GoulJusan> i'm checking out online courses :D
[01:03] <GoulJusan> it's still very $$$ 490 per course hour + 100 lab time x_x
[01:10] <Bercon-> Bah, just learn everything yourself
[01:15] <GoulJusan> yer a genius!
[01:16] <Bercon-> Thank you
[01:16] <GoulJusan> from today on i'll call u mr genius
[01:18] <Bercon-> I'd rather have you call me master like everybody else does
[01:19] <GoulJusan> wheres the doctor?
[01:19] <Bercon-> No wait what channel was this
[01:19] <Anvile> what
[01:22] <GoulJusan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6oQZUq8EOM
[01:28] <GoulJusan> Digital Filmmaking & Video Production - Total Tuition & Fees $80,050.00
[01:28] <GoulJusan> holycrap!!!
[01:28] <Anvile> pocketchange
[01:29] <GoulJusan> beforeu get a job u've got a huge pole up the anus with that price
[01:34] <Bercon-> free education ftw
[01:39] <GoulJusan> yer from finland?
[01:40] <Bercon-> Indeed
[01:40] <GoulJusan> n u guys get free uni studies?
[01:43] <Anvile> soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired
[01:43] <Anvile> ~_~
[01:44] <GoulJusan> wot did u do yesterday?
[01:44] <Anvile> not go to bed on time
[01:46] <GoulJusan> been naughty huh?
[01:47] <Anvile> always
[01:47] <Anvile> :P
[01:48] <GoulJusan> with wifie?
[01:48] <kbotnen> Free universities here.
[01:48] <GoulJusan> >_<
[01:52] <Anvile> no wifie :<
[01:53] <GoulJusan> dang i kept confused u with mithandir lol
[01:53] <GoulJusan> kept thinking he's the bachelor one
[01:54] <GoulJusan> well get married then
[01:57] <GoulJusan> buy a russian with :D
[01:57] <GoulJusan> wife
[01:57] <GoulJusan> or husband
[01:57] <GoulJusan> withever makes u happy :D
[01:58] <Anvile> lol
[01:58] <Anvile> why do i need to get married
[01:58] <Anvile> nonsense
[01:59] <GoulJusan> free sex
[01:59] <GoulJusan> well prepared hot meals
[01:59] <GoulJusan> free baby production n care
[01:59] <GoulJusan> free nursing and massage
[02:00] <GoulJusan> human shield
[02:00] <GoulJusan> loads of good
[02:01] <Bercon-> GoulJusan: all education is free, lawschools, universities, medical schools
[02:02] <GoulJusan> hmmm ... marry me
[02:03] <GoulJusan> bercon.. marry me.. i want the free edu
[02:03] <suurland> Bercon, don't you have to pay for your own books?
[02:04] <GoulJusan> books = cheap
[02:04] <GoulJusan> compared to those nonsense tuition fess
[02:04] <GoulJusan> fees
[02:06] <suurland> just asking since here you have to pay for the books.. and the new student
[02:07] <Bercon-> suurland: we've got libraries if you really need some book
[02:07] <Bercon-> But most of the material is free on the web
[02:08] <suurland> maybe for you.. but people in a more special field and less IT oriented fo
[02:08] <Bercon-> I've bought 3 math books, 1 about computer algoritms and one physics for to
[02:10] <suurland> but never the less... During the education the alchohol will be the most e
[02:10] <Bercon-> Yeah probably, if I'd drink
[02:10] <GoulJusan> lol
[02:10] <GoulJusan> i'm allergic to alcohol
[02:10] <GoulJusan> yay for allergies!
[02:10] <GoulJusan> \o/
[02:10] <Bercon-> Then finland is no no for you, I guess our marriage is off
[02:13] <Anvile> [10:59:15] <GoulJusan> free sex < hahaha as if that exists
[02:16] <Bercon-> If you don't have any quality req.....
[02:17] <GoulJusan> just because i dun drink alcohol u won;t marry me?
[02:18] * GoulJusan runs away crying
[02:18] <Anvile> how can you survive without drinking alcohol
[02:18] * GoulJusan brings his bag of weed seeds with him
[02:18] <GoulJusan> ermm i still do
[02:19] <GoulJusan> i'm alive now rn't i :D
[02:19] <GoulJusan> but i sorta into pastries
[02:19] <Anvile> weed seeds
[02:19] <Anvile> what ya gonna do with those
[02:20] <GoulJusan> plant it of cos
[02:20] <Anvile> okay
[02:20] <Anvile> where
[02:20] <GoulJusan> around the house lol
[02:20] <Anvile> lol
[02:21] <Anvile> plenty of sun?
[02:21] <GoulJusan> definately
[02:21] <GoulJusan> actually i dun smoke them
[02:22] <GoulJusan> i'm as innocent as u could get..
[02:22] <Anvile> right
[02:22] <GoulJusan> i dun smoke dun drink dun do drugz
[02:22] <GoulJusan> O:)
[02:22] <Anvile> you know when you gonna come to holland you're not leaving without getting h
[02:22] <Anvile> :P
[02:23] <GoulJusan> i only smoke a puff of it once and sorethroat the following hour
[02:23] <Bercon-> http://apina.biz/9120.jpg
[02:23] <Anvile> that just means you suck at sucking :P
[02:23] <GoulJusan> hey who wannna do the sucking... i prefer getting sucked lol
[02:24] <Anvile> hm i guess a waterbong might be better
[02:24] <Anvile> lol
[02:24] <GoulJusan> ooo never tried those
[02:24] <GoulJusan> bet u have a collection
[02:24] <Anvile> no but i have an extensive knowledge about how to make them from any object
[02:24] <GoulJusan> woohoo kungfu!
[02:25] <Anvile> buckets, pringles tubes
[02:25] <Anvile> etc :P
[02:25] * GoulJusan passes Anvile a comdom and a zipper
[02:25] <GoulJusan> hehe u said any object..
[02:26] <GoulJusan> you have 15 min starting now
[02:26] <Anvile> hmm
[02:26] <Anvile> got a light?
[02:26] <Anvile> :P
[02:26] <GoulJusan> lol
[02:26] <Anvile> no i'm trying to cut back on cocksmoking
[02:27] <Bercon-> I hear its bad for you... mentally
[02:27] <GoulJusan> bercon.. u haven't tried it .. u'd never know
[02:28] <Bercon-> Yeah I gotta admit I'm still pretty unexperienced on that field
[02:29] <GoulJusan> pretty unexperience could meant you tried it but still having a certain p
[02:29] <GoulJusan> :D
[02:29] <Bercon-> Everything is possible
[02:30] <GoulJusan> bercon yer still a student?
[02:32] <Bercon-> Yeah
[02:33] * GoulJusan pets the innocent Bercon... youths.. :)
[02:33] <Anvile> lol
[02:33] <Bercon-> >.<
[02:33] <Bercon-> First time I hear somebody calling me innocent =|
[02:33] <GoulJusan> when u get to anvile's age u've probably tried everything
[02:34] <Anvile> haha
[02:34] <Anvile> i'm not that old damnit
[02:34] <Anvile> :<
[02:34] <Bercon-> I was planning to skip that age
[02:34] <GoulJusan> age skippping = death
[02:34] <Anvile> I am 25.307692 years old
[02:34] <Bercon-> Just in case
[02:35] <Bercon-> GoulJusan: death aint the worst thing to happen
[02:35] <GoulJusan> nor is gang bang.. but u still dun wish fer it :F
[02:35] <Bercon-> Are you sure?
[02:36] <GoulJusan> wait u want gang bang?
[02:36] <GoulJusan> as in prison gang rape style?
[02:36] * GoulJusan is surprised at Bercon
[02:37] * Anvile writes some notes down
[02:37] <Anvile> i tell ya bercon, this report is getting longer and longer
[02:37] <Anvile> freud would have a field day
[02:38] <Anvile> its like a gigantic freudian slip and you can't get up
[02:38] <GoulJusan> lol
[02:41] <Bercon-> And I haven't even worked at the industry that long =|
[02:41] <GoulJusan> yer part time werking?
[02:42] <Bercon-> Full time for the summer and part time afterwards
[02:45] <GoulJusan> nice
[02:45] <GoulJusan> production companies?
[02:46] <Bercon-> http://www.pinata.fi/
[02:46] <Bercon-> -> lunch
[02:47] <Anvile> where's the gallery
[02:47] <GoulJusan> eat well little dude
[02:48] <GoulJusan> could be pseudo company where Bercon could fake his internships
[02:48] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[02:49] <GoulJusan> all the pple u see on there are all students..
[02:49] <GoulJusan> it's a student conspiracy to fake credit points
[03:09] * fukchi is now known as chai
[03:30] <Bercon-> Anvile: the company was founded 2.5 months ago so most of our stuff is stil
[03:34] <Anvile> ah.
[03:37] <GoulJusan> heh
[03:39] <Bercon-> I'm the only non-pro around here
[03:39] <JD-1SMURF> no offense or dont take this personality but if you are a creative animat
[03:40] <GoulJusan> lol
[03:40] <GoulJusan> little smurfie
[03:41] <Bercon-> We dont do websites
[03:41] <^ichi^_> actually
[03:41] <^ichi^_> if you're one of the more popular companies
[03:41] <^ichi^_> you should be too busy to make a website
[03:41] <^ichi^_> and if that's true, you don't need one because the only reason you need one
[03:43] <Bercon-> Don't generalize
[03:43] <^ichi^_> oh i'm sorry, i thought there was common sense there .
[03:44] <GoulJusan> give the dude a break... he just werk there n it's his first official pla
[03:45] * GoulJusan pets Bercon
[03:47] <Bercon-> I'm just saying that at this point when we can't put anything on our websit
[03:47] <Bercon-> And this is not my job on the industry
[03:47] <Bercon-> +first
[03:49] <GoulJusan> oh?
[03:49] <GoulJusan> ichi: hows yesterday stuff go? all ready to go?
[03:50] <^ichi^_> the client is getting a storyboard together
[03:50] <GoulJusan> nice
[03:50] <GoulJusan> that's $kaching$ fer yer
[03:53] <^ichi^_> hopefully
[03:55] <GoulJusan> :))
[04:22] <Anvile> O_o
[04:53] * Anvile farts
[05:27] <GoulJusan> ewwwwwwwwww
[05:30] <Vl0z> Hey every one
[05:31] <Vl0z> Does somebody know where can i find the difference between 3dsmax 9/8 series a
[05:39] <Anvile> what ewwww GoulJusan
[05:41] <GoulJusan> u release yer gas
[05:41] <GoulJusan> i fergot my lighter
[05:41] <Anvile> so what
[05:41] <Anvile> you never fart?
[05:41] <GoulJusan> ewwww.. what a waste
[05:41] <GoulJusan> i wanna see flame
[05:41] <GoulJusan> :))
[05:42] <Anvile> ;p;
[05:42] <Anvile> lol
[05:42] <Anvile> *
[05:43] <GoulJusan> bbl cousin need da net thing
[05:52] * mble is now known as mbale
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[06:13] * Topic is 'NO WAREZ | http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=6&t=650333 < Bercon
[06:13] * Set by flashed!~me@a83-132-153-243.cpe.netcabo.pt on Sun Jul 27 23:43:38
[06:13] -mrHelpman- Hello and welcome to #3dsmax. This is a NO WAREZ channel, please do NOT ask us
[06:14] <Bercon-> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=59&t=662656
[06:18] * Maxor1986 is now known as Fusen
[06:34] <Anvile> looks like "interactive rendering" is the next big thing
[06:35] <Bercon-> Yeah, machines are finally fast enough for it
[06:54] * Fusen is now known as maxor
[07:20] <dharmaone> anyone used lsystems from blur?
[07:50] * Frostu_ is now known as Frostu
[08:08] * Anvile is now known as Awayvile
[09:09] <Hierofant> There is also that company that does interactive rendering via internet g
[09:10] <Hierofant> pretty intense... had meshes from the Transformers movie
[09:17] <joep> i allways forget this
[09:18] <joep> if i want to move a vertex, but want it constrained to the spline its on, what
[09:18] <joep> say like i have a splin at an angle and i just want to move a vertx further do
[09:18] <joep> without breaking the straight line
[09:29] <Hierofant> dunno, let us know if you remember :) sounds like an axis constraint tha
[09:35] <joep> its on my machine modeling dvd, wherever i put it
[10:16] <dharmaone> if i wanna do a grill like this, but on a dome, not a plane, whats the be
[10:16] <dharmaone> http://www.hometone.org/images/security_window_grill.jpg
[10:20] <epmo> usually for stuff like that modeling is more realistic
[10:20] <epmo> using splines/paths/whatever for the curves and extruding shapes
[10:21] <dharmaone> i could model a tileable 3d shape, but how would i apply that across the
[10:21] <epmo> once you have a flat shape you can conform it to the curve of the sphere
[10:22] <epmo> forgot exactly what the function is called
[10:22] <epmo> brb
[10:23] <dharmaone> ahh
[10:25] <dharmaone> whats the modifier for conforming shapes on another object?
[10:47] <dharmaone> how can i tile geometry in 3ds max.. along a surface?
[10:59] <TheBat> like...array?
[11:22] <Coldtoast> http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/uploads/guykeyboard.jpg
[11:36] <Awayvile> hey he has the same keyboard i do
[11:36] <Awayvile> sup ct
[11:36] * Awayvile is now known as Anvile
[12:02] <dgreyz> did you guys hear it, ruairi gonna direct akira
[12:03] <suurland> about a year ago yes :P
[12:03] <dgreyz> oh you show off
[12:03] <dgreyz> I thought I had some news.
[12:03] <dgreyz> I just read it today
[12:04] <suurland> it's also been on imdb for quite awhile
[12:05] <Anvile> what the hell
[12:05] <Anvile> he's gonna do what
[12:05] <dgreyz> yeah Anvile, didnt you know? I knew this for yeaaars
[12:05] <dgreyz> hehe
[12:05] <Anvile> ef you
[12:06] <Anvile> what do you mean akira
[12:06] <Anvile> a remake?
[12:06] <dgreyz> some porn movie
[12:06] <Anvile> live action?
[12:06] <Anvile> CG?
[12:06] <suurland> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134795/
[12:06] <dgreyz> suurland, he doesnt drob by here anymore right?
[12:06] <Anvile> live action ZOMG
[12:06] <dgreyz> or somewhere
[12:06] <Anvile> very rarely sinn
[12:06] <suurland> been a long time since I saw him last
[12:07] <dgreyz> we are probably not cool enough
[12:07] <dgreyz> he's teaming up with the big guys now
[12:09] <dgreyz> well I promise you guys, if I hit Hollywood, I will still hang around IRC ;)
[12:09] <Anvile> what the hell
[12:09] <Anvile> leonardo dicaprio
[12:09] <Anvile> fuck that
[12:09] <dgreyz> oh is that jealousy?
[12:09] <Anvile> no
[12:09] <dgreyz> he's good actor
[12:10] <dgreyz> and he has a bit of a tetsuo face
[12:10] <Anvile> well he's a good actor
[12:10] <Anvile> but as kaneda? really
[12:10] <Anvile> what teh
[12:10] <Anvile> where are the japanese
[12:11] <dgreyz> nah he shouldnt be kaneda
[12:12] <dgreyz> well its a cool thing anyway
[12:13] <dgreyz> anvile, I have Ninja gaiden for Xbox :)
[12:14] <dgreyz> its a cool game
[12:15] <dgreyz> its really old school controller breaking.
[12:16] <dgreyz> u know, so damn hard
[12:16] <dgreyz> reminds me of some of the NES games.
[12:16] <Anvile> yea
[12:16] <dgreyz> like, "endboss! ah cool" you beat him, with little energy left, suddenly rig
[12:17] <Anvile> i played the demo a couple times
[12:17] <Anvile> lol
[12:17] <dgreyz> you kill that one, with practically no energy anymore, you think you finishe
[12:17] <dgreyz> hehe
[12:18] <panicb> dgreyz, classic japanese style games
[12:18] <panicb> the worst ever was Sol-Feace for the segaCD
[12:19] <panicb> must've had like 10 stages of end boss
[12:19] <dgreyz> I think I k now that one
[12:19] <dgreyz> yeah hard core gaming
[12:19] <dgreyz> u know, right on the edge of " ok fuck it im quitting"
[12:19] <panicb> those are the games you end up using the cheat code after you quit playing i
[12:19] <panicb> just to see the ending
[12:19] <dgreyz> they do this well
[12:20] <panicb> is this a newer ninja gaiden or the NES one?
[12:21] <panicb> err Famicom one... if you aren't USA =)
[12:21] <dgreyz> the newest
[12:21] <dgreyz> famicom was SNES right?
[12:22] <joep> yea
[12:22] <^ichi^_> no
[12:22] <panicb> that was the super famicom
[12:22] <joep> oh
[12:22] <joep> misread that
[12:22] <^ichi^_> famicom was nes, super famicon was snes
[12:22] <dgreyz> aah yeah
[12:23] <panicb> so this is the newer line of ninja gaiden then?
[12:23] <dgreyz> yeah
[12:23] <panicb> I haven't played them yet
[12:23] <dgreyz> but its still hard
[12:23] <panicb> I just remember the old, rediculously hard one
[12:23] <joep> heh yea
[12:23] <dgreyz> well I dont think its just as hard. because you arent as limited
[12:23] <joep> i think i only have aever beaten them with roms
[12:23] <joep> save states
[12:24] <panicb> joep, yea. Roms or cheat codes.
[12:24] <dgreyz> hehe remember those cheats , up up down down left right left right B-A selec
[12:24] <panicb> some you go back and play, and you realize why you thought it was so difficu
[12:24] <dgreyz> the standard konami code
[12:24] <panicb> hehe yea
[12:25] <panicb> I used that code on contra... just try to beat that game on 3 guys =)
[12:25] <Deison> i read somewhere ghouls and ghosts was rated the hardest platformer ever
[12:25] <Deison> lol
[12:25] <Deison> super ghouls and ghosts i think
[12:25] <panicb> that was a difficult game
[12:26] <Deison> my fav. was battletoads
[12:26] <dgreyz> Deison yeah, totally
[12:26] <Deison> played it with my friend until we both beat it co-op
[12:26] * Mithandir will stick to the easy platformers
[12:26] <Deison> that was so hard
[12:26] <dgreyz> castlevania wasnt easy either
[12:26] <Deison> yet so fun
[12:26] <Mithandir> Commander Keen ahoy!
[12:26] <panicb> Magician Lord for neogeo was pretty tough too
[12:27] <Deison> did anyone ever play Karnov?
[12:27] <Deison> think it was on the NES
[12:28] <dgreyz> hmm no
[12:28] <panicb> yep. My friend loved that game. I used to watch them play through it
[12:28] <Deison> i loved it too lol
[12:28] <panicb> I was poor, but there was a guy in our neighborhood that had every NES game
[12:29] <panicb> so we borrowed from him
[12:29] <Deison> ah
[12:29] <joep> this stearing wheel im modeling is pretty eleet!@#
[12:29] <panicb> lets see it
[12:31] <Deison> i wanna see :)
[12:31] <joep> heh its just a tube with a cylander in the middle with arms extruded out
[12:31] <joep> just being goofy
[12:31] <joep> heh
[12:31] <panicb> oh hehe
[12:31] <joep> Deison: KARNOV!!!!!
[12:32] <joep> in the arcade version you can only get hit once, hehe
[12:32] <Deison> lol
[12:32] <joep> ive been debating making my flash platformer "karnov 2"
[12:32] <joep> heh
[12:32] <Deison> haha
[12:32] <Deison> that would be great
[12:32] <joep> i traded the bully across the street kid icarus for it when i was little
[12:32] <joep> heh
[12:33] <joep> "what the hell is karnov?" "its totally rad... now gimme kid icarus"
[12:34] <joep> anyone remember Jackal?
[12:34] <joep> not many ppl had it
[12:34] <panicb> kid icarus was a good one
[12:35] <cviper> I know this is max, but im sure some of you use maya. Is the only way to do
[12:35] <panicb> did you ever play battle of olympus? That was a good adventure/rpg game for
[12:35] <joep> i wanna say i did...
[12:35] * joep looks it up
[12:36] <joep> hmm nope
[12:37] <dgreyz> panicb I played it
[12:37] <panicb> I like those old games. Every once in awhile I'll fire up an emulator and pl
[12:38] <panicb> just for nostalgia
[12:38] <dgreyz> hehe cool
[12:38] <dgreyz> I really cant play them
[12:38] <dgreyz> well I used to love zelda
[12:38] <dgreyz> the games
[12:38] <dgreyz> not the character hehe
[12:39] <panicb> I love the character
[12:39] <Deison> lol
[12:39] <dgreyz> hehe
[12:39] <panicb> just kidding =)
[12:39] <dgreyz> sure you are
[12:39] <Deison> i knew someone would say that ;p
[12:39] <Deison> i was about to say that actually
[12:39] <panicb> zelda NES and Zelda SNES are two of the best games of that style ever made
[12:39] <dgreyz> also megamans were cool too
[12:39] <panicb> yea megaman, metroid
[12:40] <dgreyz> ah yeha metroid, I like metroid on SNES
[12:40] <panicb> I'd even throw in blaster master, I really liked that game
[12:40] <dgreyz> super metroid
[12:40] <joep> i still play through castlevania and jackal regularly
[12:40] <joep> old games rock
[12:41] <dgreyz> they are a bit frustating
[12:41] <dgreyz> so hard
[12:41] <dgreyz> well I like the new ninja gaiden :) I already finished it
[12:42] <panicb> I need to find a game that I like for the 360 or ps3
[12:42] <dgreyz> im now doing it the second round, with all the weapons :D
[12:42] <panicb> I hoped to have another game like bushido blade (1 for psx)
[12:45] <joep> ok this is a HUGE newb question for someone that has been using max for as lon
[12:46] <joep> in autocad they have this xref thing, where you can make a comp of individual
[12:46] <[gk]> read up on xref in the manual
[12:46] <TheBat> yeah, it's called Xref ;)
[12:47] <joep> just wondering, cause i modeled this steeringwheel and i dont wanna rotate it
[12:47] <joep> haha k
[12:47] <joep> reading
[12:47] <TheBat> i found out it sometimes acts kinda weird though
[12:47] <joep> ah?
[12:47] <joep> hmm
[12:48] <TheBat> don't know about anyone else? i stopped using it because of unreliable behav
[12:50] <[gk]> if you have an object you want to rotate which then puts it in a weird non sym
[12:50] <[gk]> moving world grid align is good
[12:51] <[gk]> for any doubts on changing world grid based on objects consult manual
[12:51] <[gk]> www.scriptspot.com for 3 point align
[12:52] <joep> hmm
[12:52] <joep> k
[12:52] <[gk]> ive worked on huge projects with xref, no big complaints
[12:54] <[gk]> Ted Boardman taught me the changing worldgrid solution in a class. simple move
[12:54] <Deison> hey joep theres file > xref which sounds like what you're doing. Not sur
[12:55] <TheBat> i had some trouble, like when updating an x-reffed file, it would not update
[12:55] <joep> deison: yep, this looks similar to acad
[12:55] <[gk]> ive never had that kind of problem, max2008. everything updates if xrefed scen
[12:57] <Deison> i did like 3 long videos on xref'ing and how sad is it that i can hardly eve
[12:57] <Deison> lol
[12:57] <Deison> :(
[12:57] <Deison> I mean, I watched 3 long videos. Not did!
[13:00] <joep> 3 long videos? it just refferences other models and puts them in your scene, u
[13:00] <joep> heh
[13:03] <TheBat> [gk]: must be some quirkiness in older versions then, i used it in max 8/9 i
[13:11] <Deison> yeah but if I remember correctly its not as simple as that in some cases
[13:12] <Deison> don't remember what exactly but it has to do with being able to modify thing
[13:12] <Deison> things*
[13:16] <dgreyz> TheBat you shouldnt put xrefs in groups
[13:17] <dgreyz> just link them
[13:18] <joep> anyone use hair and fur much?
[13:18] <joep> scale is 100% on my hair, but i want it longer, hmmm
[13:18] <joep> heh
[13:19] <dgreyz> length!
[13:20] <dgreyz> scale is just for putting in variation I'd say, length is what you control t
[13:21] <joep> yea
[13:21] <joep> but
[13:21] <joep> not seeing just a "length"
[13:21] <joep> heh
[13:21] <dgreyz> omg, my friend's boyfriend just asked her for 23.000 euro
[13:22] <dgreyz> and she dumbed him, lol
[13:22] <^ichi^_> joep
[13:22] <joep> ya?
[13:22] <^ichi^_> could you op me please
[13:22] <joep> im opped?
[13:22] <joep> heh
[13:22] <^ichi^_> in #aftereffects
[13:22] <joep> oh
[13:23] <joep> k
[13:23] <^ichi^_> thankyou
[13:23] <dgreyz> op me
[13:23] <dgreyz> :)
[13:24] <dgreyz> hehe
[13:24] <dgreyz> its so funny you can deop when someone isnt opped
[13:24] <^ichi^_> u_u
[13:25] <joep> so,... wierd
[13:25] <joep> hair cant have a maximum length or something
[13:25] <joep> thatd be lame
[13:28] <dgreyz> I have the feeling time goes very slow
[13:28] <dgreyz> I wonder how come.
[13:28] <joep> ?
[13:28] <joep> going to fast here
[13:28] <dgreyz> yeah you know , those days
[13:28] <joep> stuck on somethnig as simple as hair length
[13:28] <dgreyz> im working for hours it feels, and only 1 hour past
[13:29] <dgreyz> ah yeah joep I discovered something odd in there too.
[13:29] <joep> oh?
[13:29] <dgreyz> but then I switched to some other mode to make it work
[13:29] <dgreyz> yeah
[13:29] <joep> hmmm
[13:29] <dgreyz> I might have used a map perhaps?
[13:29] <dgreyz> im not sure anymore
[13:31] <dgreyz> hey, silly question. is 5000euro in a week spent on food, alot?
[13:31] <dgreyz> like is it like " ok, this CAN happen" or is it totally out of the question?
[13:32] <dgreyz> personally I cant believe a person can spend 5000E in one week on food.
[13:32] <panicb> I think that would be quite a lot
[13:32] <dgreyz> yeah, but, just alot, or insanely?
[13:33] <panicb> sounds like going out to fancy restaurants for breakfast lunch and dinner
[13:33] <dgreyz> if I would go to restaurants everyday, and eat for 150 euro a day, I would b
[13:33] <panicb> could be wrong tho
[13:34] <dgreyz> yeah, but how fancy can a restaurant be if you can spend 1000 euro there a d
[13:34] <dgreyz> that should include lap dances orsomething
[13:34] <dgreyz> caviar hehe
[13:36] <dgreyz> so it is possible, hmm ok
[13:37] <Deison> lol
[13:38] <TheBat> dgreyz: ah i see :), might sometimes try to use them again
[13:39] <TheBat> 5000 euro's for food, in just 1 week? wow, impossible i'd say :), especially
[13:40] <joep> the manual pretty much says you have to use the styling tools to make the hair
[13:40] <joep> what kind of crap is that :(
[13:40] <dgreyz> TheBat ah yeah thought so too
[13:40] <Deison> hey, turns out some of the fireworks at the olympics ceremony were computer
[13:40] <Deison> if you were watching on tv anyway
[13:40] <dgreyz> lol Deison wtf?
[13:40] <dgreyz> thats bad ass!
[13:40] <dgreyz> haha
[13:40] <Hierofant> Deison - no way
[13:40] <Deison> yeah lol, google it
[13:41] <Hierofant> which?
[13:41] <Deison> lots of articles on it
[13:41] <dgreyz> yeah they were holograms ;) cost billions !
[13:41] <Deison> the giant footsteps i think
[13:41] <joep> heh
[13:41] <joep> just made my model smaller, easy fix :P
[13:42] <Hierofant> sweet
[13:42] <Hierofant> the footsteps were awesome
[13:44] <dgreyz> about the 5000E thing, this guy had acces to his GF's bank account, and spen
[13:44] <dgreyz> riiiiiggght
[13:44] <Deison> maybe if he was treating his friends to meals every day
[13:44] <dgreyz> but she fell for it, so I just had to be sure this is ridiculous
[13:45] <Deison> how much does 5000E equate to US currency?
[13:45] <Hierofant> $6500?
[13:45] <Deison> 1 Euro = 1.4882 U.S. dollars
[13:45] <Hierofant> whoa
[13:46] <joep> yea
[13:46] <Hierofant> it's not possible to spend that in the US unless you are ordering the fin
[13:46] <Deison> $7441 dollars
[13:46] <joep> i went to the atm in antwerp
[13:46] <joep> depressing
[13:46] <Deison> in 1 week
[13:46] <joep> :/
[13:46] <Deison> that is INSANE lol
[13:47] <Deison> could order 1 bottle of krystal (sp?) every night
[13:47] <Deison> that would do the trick
[13:47] <dgreyz> mm yeah
[13:47] <dgreyz> think so
[13:48] <Deison> I want to move to europe
[13:48] <dgreyz> and do what?
[13:48] <Deison> live life there for a couple years
[13:48] <Deison> would be fun
[13:48] <dgreyz> convert your dollars to euro? you'll be friggin poor!
[13:48] <Deison> probably England so I could at least speak the language
[13:49] <Deison> I could work there in the same field im working here
[13:49] <Deison> So maybe make a lot more money!
[14:03] <dgreyz> with what?
[14:04] <Anvile> oh man 11 o'clock already
[14:06] <dgreyz> yeah
[14:06] <dgreyz> dammit
[14:06] <dgreyz> now times goes too fast
[14:06] <dgreyz> race against ze clock
[14:09] <Anvile> god damn shit
[14:09] <Anvile> any new renders sinn?
[14:10] <dgreyz> yeah, but no
[14:10] <dgreyz> cant show you
[14:10] <dgreyz> not coz nda, but, I just cant now
[14:11] <Anvile> hm
[14:11] <Anvile> i'll see this one through the fingers
[14:11] <Anvile> :P
[14:14] <dgreyz> hehe, pfew
[14:18] <dgreyz> how bout you?
[14:18] <dgreyz> I have an old render though
[14:21] <GS> show your stuff, sinn!
[14:29] <Anvile> :O
[14:29] <Anvile> i only have crap renders
[14:29] <Anvile> no new ones anyway
[14:29] <Anvile> new crap ones, that is
[14:31] <Anvile> just some tree study > www.xs4all.nl/~anvile/temp/werk/boom.jpg
[14:32] <Hierofant> Who is the guru of lighting? Isn't there a guy who produces tutorials?
[14:32] <GS> paper tree with wax leafs! hooray!
[14:32] <Hierofant> I'm having a terrible time with architecture
[14:33] <GS> i can do that for you for a small fee ;)
[14:33] <GS> whats the problem`?
[14:33] <Hierofant> too many to enumerate
[14:33] <Hierofant> haha
[14:33] <Hierofant> it looks better when I delete all my lights and leave it on default :/
[14:33] <GS> heh
[14:33] * Anvile slaps GS
[14:34] <Anvile> leaves are not made of wax :/
[14:34] <GS> heh
[14:34] <GS> translucent plastic?
[14:35] <Anvile> and that model didn't have a bark material yet :b
[14:35] <Anvile> why would you say that
[14:36] <Anvile> i mean, i can get the translucency to work
[14:36] <Anvile> but the reflection and bump crapola is.. crap
[14:41] <Anvile> so
[14:41] <Anvile> what you think the problem is GS :P
[14:42] <GS> leafs arent transparent enough and have no inner structure
[14:42] <GS> and are more transparent around the edges, which makes them look thick
[14:42] <Refracted> in B2 i'd use the 'thin translucency' shader
[14:43] <Refracted> works great for that, paper.. curtains, etc
[14:43] <Refracted> lampshades
[14:43] <GS> anvile can do that :D
[14:46] <timbre_> Refracted
[14:46] <[gk]> refdid you ever get a mail back? i didnt...send a new job + mailed them.
[14:46] <timbre_> i remember i tried to render a convincing lampshade back in 1999, but it ne
[14:46] <timbre_> then, some time later sss came, but it was too late
[14:47] <timbre_> school was finished by then
[14:47] <Anvile> GS: ah so you mean you can't see the veins and all that
[14:47] <timbre_> in 1992 already i was talking to friend how could it would be that objects
[14:47] <timbre_> all i had was 3dstudio 2.0
[14:48] <timbre_> cool it would be
[14:50] <GS> for instance
[14:51] <[gk]> in 1400 there were no internet or cars and people still made love. computers,
[14:53] <Anvile> stop smoking crack gk
[14:54] <GS> hes smoking ass hairs
[15:00] <Refracted> gk, no, i had sent 2 jobs i didn't hear from back
[15:01] <[gk]> okay
[15:01] <Refracted> no server errors.. but no results either
[15:01] <[gk]> i mailed him/them to check if they are *there* or what ever is going on
[15:01] <Refracted> was waiting until i might have better samples
[15:01] <[gk]> i send 2 more today
[15:02] <[gk]> one realy small and one ½ size raw photos
[15:02] <Refracted> i sent a full size and a 25%
[15:04] <[gk]> okay
[15:30] <Hedon> ;) aloha
[15:31] <Refracted> 'lo
[15:31] <Hedon> hi Ref, how goes?
[15:31] <Refracted> not too bad.. contemplating a nap
[15:31] <Hedon> Stinky says what's up?
[15:31] <Hedon> heh
[15:32] <Refracted> a quarter ounce :P
[15:32] <Hedon> heh
[15:32] <Hedon> he says sweet
[15:32] <Refracted> i lie
[15:32] <Refracted> iT'S A BIT MORE
[15:32] <Refracted> oops
[15:32] <Refracted> caps..
[15:32] <Hedon> he's hanging, only day off this month I guess
[15:32] <Refracted> i'm reading two books at the moment that seem to be completly opposite ea
[15:33] <Refracted> one is the god delusion, and the other is this jehova's witness booklet.
[15:33] <Hedon> I wish my son would read less
[15:34] <Refracted> heh
[15:34] <Hedon> his book habit is more costly than a drug or cigarette habit
[15:35] <Refracted> can always try to get him onto some old books that are available at the l
[15:35] <Hedon> I need to find him harder books that he has to read slower
[15:35] <Hedon> yeah, library should be open next year, can't wait
[15:36] <Hedon> save me a ton of money
[15:36] <Refracted> ya
[15:36] <Refracted> meh.. i think i'm gonna go take a nap.. and listen to the god delusion on
[15:37] <Hedon> He finally got banned from WOW servers I guess
[15:37] <Refracted> lol
[15:37] <panicb> that might be a good thing =)
[15:37] <Hedon> yeah
[15:37] <panicb> I had a nice everquest addiction for like 4 years
[15:37] <panicb> waste of tiem
[15:37] <panicb> time
[15:38] <Hedon> Yeah, he is addicted to World of WarCrack
[15:40] <Hedon> I can't say much, I spend hours surfing youtube watching all these crazy amaz
[15:41] <Hedon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LVEOxTBPlk
[15:41] <Hedon> trying to learn these riffs
[15:42] <Hedon> He must have an effects unit on that
[15:43] <Gray_Fox0> hi ll
[15:43] <Gray_Fox0> Whats new??
[15:44] <Gray_Fox0> Anyone in here use ThinkingParticles??
[15:48] <Anvile> i'm gonna sleep, thats whats new
[15:48] <Anvile> !
[15:48] * Anvile is now known as Awayvile
[15:49] <Gray_Fox0> ok
[15:49] <Gray_Fox0> later dude
[15:49] <Hedon> Hi gray
[15:49] <Gray_Fox0> hay whats up Hedon?
[15:56] <Hedon> just watching crazy keyboard player videos
[16:06] <Hierofant> Hedon - how do you use Max?
[16:07] * [gk] would take a wild guess : one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard
[16:08] <[gk]> could be he has one of those fancy connexion jugs
[16:08] <[gk]> they are fun
[16:08] <Hierofant> heh
[16:09] <Hierofant> Hedon seems to be all about the vintage synths
[16:13] <Hierofant> he lost his connexion jug
[16:13] <Hierofant> Does anyone do exposure blending?
[16:44] * jrHe|pman is now known as jrHelpman
[17:56] <Deison> is 3ds max design 2009 the same thing as 3ds max 2009?
[17:56] <Deison> or 2 different products?
[18:35] <Refracted> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/11/2135259&from=rss
[18:48] <Hedon> heh, sorry, got distracted
[18:48] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Aug 11 18:48:52 2008