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Session Start: Fri Aug 08 00:00:01 2008
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[01:12] * Maxor1986 is now known as Maxor^xsi
[02:07] <timbre> LHC testruns on 8/8
[02:07] <timbre> http://www.youtube.com/cern
[02:11] <Bercon-> The last chance to lose your virginity
[03:33] <Awayvile> we're all going to die
[03:33] * Awayvile is now known as Anvile
[03:39] <Strikee> go ahead
[03:41] <Bercon-> Yeah we'll follow after you Anvile
[03:42] <Strikee> yes
[03:42] <Strikee> I swear :D
[03:44] <Anvile> hmm well okay
[03:44] <Anvile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uKZWnJLCM
[03:44] <Anvile> that is awesome
[03:54] * Bercon1 is now known as Bercon
[04:13] * Maxor^xsi is now known as MAYASUXX
[04:34] <timbre> http://bram.smartelectronix.com/david/Ronny_Ragtrol_-_standpoint.mp3
[05:27] <GS> www.shadingandlighting.com/temp/testcube5.jpg
[05:48] <flashed> page not found
[05:48] <flashed> now go watch the olympics cerimony
[05:51] <GS> ah, now it should work
[05:52] <flashed> yep
[05:52] <flashed> its last nite but better quality?
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[06:12] * Topic is 'NO WAREZ | http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=6&t=650333 < Bercon
[06:12] * Set by flashed!~me@a83-132-153-243.cpe.netcabo.pt on Sun Jul 27 23:43:38
[06:12] -mrHelpman- Hello and welcome to #3dsmax. This is a NO WAREZ channel, please do NOT ask us
[06:45] * N3TS|DLiT is now known as NeTSP|iT
[07:45] * Frostu_ is now known as Frostu
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[07:57] <teknihx> hey
[07:58] <teknihx> I have a Nvidia Quadro 1700FX.. I should use Open GL over Direct 3D right?
[07:59] <Deison> i've always wondered which to use myself also. I only have a geforce 8800gt
[08:00] <Deison> I read somewhere that openGL should be your #1 choice
[08:00] <teknihx> I think so too.. especially with quadro series
[08:00] <Deison> hell if I know tho
[08:00] <GS> 3dsmax nowadays is more and more optimized for d3d
[08:00] <teknihx> geforce might be more of a toss up
[08:00] <GS> and so are maxtreme drivers
[08:01] <teknihx> drivers are opt for d3d
[08:01] <teknihx> but good hardware might be for ogl
[08:01] <teknihx> guess im going to google around :p
[08:02] <GS> quadro hardware is basically geforce hardware with hardware-unlocked possibility
[08:02] <GS> try both and look at your fps
[08:03] <teknihx> i would be at dx10 now tho with 64bit vista, max 2009 and the 1700 quadro
[08:03] <Deison> i get the same fps with either openGL or d3d
[08:03] <flashed> use d3d
[08:03] <flashed> you can use the new viewport bling bling
[08:04] <teknihx> bling?
[08:04] <teknihx> i just installed 2009 2 mins ago so im new to it =p
[08:05] <teknihx> In the past, cards relying on the OpenGL graphics API were proven to be sup
[08:09] <teknihx> ok another question is
[08:09] <teknihx> should i get the maxextreme drivers even if i use autocad as well
[08:10] <teknihx> right now i have the general driver
[08:41] <Deison> how much did you pay for that card btw?
[08:41] <timbre> http://www.poompee.be/imag/sk2/sk2_29.jpg
[08:44] <Deison> man evermotion has sweet tutorials but the only problem is most of the tutor
[09:23] * pSew is now known as Aloe
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[09:34] * Frostu_ is now known as Frostu
[09:46] * Frostu is now known as Frostu_
[10:06] * Maxor1986 is now known as maxor^XSI
[10:16] <Hedon> fun fun fun
[10:22] <flashed> fuuun
[10:37] <Hedon> Hi flashed
[10:42] <Hedon> How goes the struggle?
[10:45] <flashed> tasty
[10:45] <flashed> just had snack
[10:45] <flashed> :D
[10:47] <Hedon> Kewl
[10:48] <flashed> you?
[10:48] <Hedon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpL4xlx-Abw Made a little cheesy music video
[10:51] <Hedon> Did that show 15 years ago
[10:52] <flashed> :)
[10:53] <flashed> you're singing?
[10:53] <Hedon> yeah
[10:53] <flashed> i see you spent a lot of time googling for mind control images :P
[10:53] <Hedon> I was in my peter Gabriel phase back then
[10:53] <Hedon> heh
[10:54] <flashed> ahaha
[10:54] <Hedon> just a little influenced
[10:54] <Hedon> lol
[10:55] <flashed> :D
[10:56] <flashed> nice music :)
[11:03] <Hedon> It's a bit different than what I usually play
[11:03] <Hedon> ;)
[11:03] <Hedon> thanks
[11:23] <Deison> Man I need to learn how to properly UVW unwrap and texture characters, it se
[11:24] <Deison> my biggest question is how do you make all the elements textures align perfe
[11:25] <Deison> for instance, if u wanted a line to go all the way around a car
[11:25] <Deison> how do you get that line to line up perfectly on every single panel
[11:25] <Deison> seems impossible
[11:26] <Deison> ;(
[11:32] <dgreyz> deison you can use different mapping channels
[11:34] <dgreyz> anyone seen the latest jenna jameson movie?
[11:35] <^ichi^_> is it called 'duck tales' ?
[11:35] <dgreyz> hehe no
[11:35] <dgreyz> its Zombie Strippers
[11:36] <dgreyz> well its not an adult movie
[11:36] <dgreyz> I thought she quit the adult business
[11:37] <dgreyz> porn movies get high ratings on imdb
[11:37] <dgreyz> lol
[11:43] * w0tness is now known as w0t
[11:45] <Deison> lol
[11:47] <GoulJusan> oh my god u have zombie strippers?
[11:47] <GoulJusan> how was it?
[11:48] <GoulJusan> it's bout this strip club where the girls turned zombie n eat their costu
[11:48] <flashed> hehe
[11:48] <dgreyz> no I dont have it
[11:48] <flashed> zombie stripers is all that you expect :D
[11:48] <GoulJusan> they dance u get eaten
[11:48] <dgreyz> but I think its good :)
[11:48] <dgreyz> hehe
[11:48] <flashed> guys get his ... bitten off..
[11:49] <flashed> *guy
[11:49] <GoulJusan> b-movie
[11:49] <dgreyz> but its with jenna!
[11:49] <GoulJusan> flashed... ooo wots in yer mind heheheheheh
[11:49] <dgreyz> first movie she doesnt suck ;)
[11:49] <GoulJusan> lol
[11:50] <GoulJusan> been meaning to get that movie.. it's raeally low budget could be d grade
[11:50] <GoulJusan> i also saw the novel
[11:51] <dgreyz> I went to kungfu panda
[11:51] <dgreyz> was funny
[11:51] <GoulJusan> wot did u think?
[11:51] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[11:51] <dgreyz> yeah was ok, but strange.
[11:51] <GoulJusan> one of dreamworks that didn't suck.. the first i would say
[11:51] <dgreyz> I wouldnt say its the best one
[11:52] <dgreyz> awesome animation
[11:52] <GoulJusan> wot? dreamworks aimation have something better than that?
[11:52] <dgreyz> what?
[11:52] <AceOvArts> the physics animation seemed a little slow to me, wasnt as punchy as the
[11:52] <dgreyz> you mean as the usual stuff
[11:53] <dgreyz> oh wait
[11:53] <dgreyz> doesnt match u mean
[11:53] <GoulJusan> till now i dun think i've seen any dreamwork's 3d animation that as good
[11:53] <AceOvArts> correct
[11:53] <dgreyz> well I really like the animation
[11:53] <GoulJusan> i like their kungfu stuffz.. very asian
[11:54] <dgreyz> the design/story is a different thing
[11:54] <GoulJusan> story is mild... the usual stuffz
[11:54] <dgreyz> I dont like this style too much, u know, all the weird animals
[11:54] <GoulJusan> it's more like a tribute to the old kungfu flicks
[11:55] <dgreyz> hehe
[11:55] <dgreyz> and I really liked the first animation about the awesomeness
[11:55] <GoulJusan> unfortunately they didn't show much of each character's specialty and the
[11:55] <Deison> did you guys see Wall-E?
[11:55] <GoulJusan> not yet :*(
[11:55] <dgreyz> nope
[11:56] <Deison> oO
[11:56] <dgreyz> means "no"
[11:56] <Deison> you should!
[11:56] <GoulJusan> but i've watched journey tothe center of the earth 3D
[11:56] <GoulJusan> lol
[11:56] <dgreyz> yeah, cant watch all the movies
[11:56] <Deison> lol
[11:56] <dgreyz> GoulJusan cool
[11:56] <Deison> i just saw the 1st hour of wally while we were waiting to see Wanted
[11:57] <Deison> er, wall-e
[11:57] <dgreyz> is it a new one?
[11:57] <GoulJusan> it was okay n fun,,, but dun go fer the story..
[11:57] <dgreyz> yeah of course but its stereo scope! right?
[11:57] <dgreyz> I want to see beowulf in 3d
[11:57] <GoulJusan> wait.. u saw 1 hour of wall-e then u went to watch wanted?
[11:57] <dgreyz> he was in the wrong cinema
[11:58] <GoulJusan> i dun like beowolf
[11:58] <dgreyz> and after 1 hour he thought " wait a min, isnt this too long for a trailer g
[11:58] <GoulJusan> i dun like those weird pseudo life like stuffz... too depressing
[11:58] <dgreyz> yeah true
[11:58] <dgreyz> it has to be utterly perfect else it looks wrong
[11:59] <dgreyz> I've seen wanted
[11:59] <GoulJusan> i can't get into lifelike characters with weird mouth movements like they
[11:59] <Deison> i heard beowulf's CG was really bad
[11:59] <Deison> i havent seen it tho
[11:59] <AceOvArts> beowulf story was good, the animation sucked balls the facial was terribl
[11:59] <dgreyz> Deison bad?
[12:00] <Deison> yeah it looks very amateurish
[12:00] <Deison> at least thats what I've heard
[12:00] <AceOvArts> wall-e was good though
[12:00] <dgreyz> AceOvArts well yea, but I never saw good facials
[12:00] <GoulJusan> ace: i shall watch it!
[12:00] <AceOvArts> Ive seen good facial capture
[12:00] <GoulJusan> i've seen nice facial capture too
[12:00] <dgreyz> ah cool where?
[12:00] <Deison> but i like the beowulf story so i kinda want to see it anyway
[12:00] <AceOvArts> but if you gonna do it you should tweak the animation after
[12:00] <Deison> lol I read that book in HS
[12:01] <dgreyz> somehow when things are very close to realism, animation looks bad very fast
[12:01] <AceOvArts> I had a demo from a company that showed a technique of capturing video fo
[12:01] <Deison> how did they capture it?
[12:01] <GoulJusan> just take final fantasy movie.. i;ve seen the exagerated facial the chara
[12:01] <dgreyz> ah AceOvArts same technique they used in pirates of caribean?
[12:01] <AceOvArts> fuck, now what was the website
[12:02] <AceOvArts> man, Pirates CG on Davey Jones was awesome
[12:02] <Deison> yeah
[12:02] <GoulJusan> the one with the harlequin female facial capture?
[12:02] <Deison> who did pirates CG?
[12:02] <Deison> ILM?
[12:02] <AceOvArts> ya
[12:02] <Deison> ah
[12:03] <Deison> the new mummy had bad CG
[12:03] <dgreyz> but, good facial animation for realistic characters
[12:03] <GoulJusan> i like lord of the rings
[12:03] <Deison> saw it last weekend. The special effects in it were god aweful
[12:03] <Deison> hehe
[12:04] <Deison> well, they weren't like awful awful but they were awful
[12:04] <AceOvArts> anyone seen hellboy 2 ?
[12:04] <GoulJusan> new mummy sucks soo bad i rewatch mummy 1 n 2 to erace off the third movi
[12:04] <Deison> lol yeah goul
[12:04] <dgreyz> ah hellboy2, should be good, no?
[12:04] <GoulJusan> hellboy art = nice.. storyflow = bad
[12:04] <dgreyz> who cares bout story hehe
[12:04] <AceOvArts> hmm..ya as I expected
[12:04] <GoulJusan> hehehehe
[12:04] <dgreyz> if you want story, go watch a drama movie
[12:05] <dgreyz> cant believe people watch drama
[12:05] <GoulJusan> art = really nice... but not totally hellboy's world as in comic based..
[12:05] <GoulJusan> other than hellboy makedup and the fish guy's make up those 2 r just horr
[12:05] <dgreyz> most people dont even know bout the comic
[12:06] <GoulJusan> i have all his comics
[12:06] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[12:06] <dgreyz> but you are, different
[12:06] <GoulJusan> n his art books
[12:06] * GoulJusan eats dgreyz
[12:06] <dgreyz> you are special :)
[12:06] <dgreyz> thats what I mean
[12:06] <GoulJusan> well the way the film flows = abit slow n boring
[12:07] <GoulJusan> it's just bad editing
[12:07] <GoulJusan> a certain scene spend too long n others too short
[12:07] <dgreyz> well, about all movies, most CG can be shoved back up their asses for sure,
[12:07] <GoulJusan> i like Lord of the rings
[12:07] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[12:08] <GoulJusan> gollum's the best so far in character n facial
[12:08] <dgreyz> well not what I meant
[12:08] <dgreyz> about facial animation
[12:08] <dgreyz> I mean realistic face
[12:08] * hanziafk is now known as hans22
[12:08] <dgreyz> thats what makes the difference
[12:09] <GoulJusan> that harlequin facial motion captured is the best.. u gotta watch that...
[12:09] <dgreyz> yeah sure, could be.
[12:10] <GoulJusan> that one was rather old.. but the best so far in realistic motion capture
[12:10] <dgreyz> just getting back to my previous point
[12:10] <GoulJusan> i would say most studios wanna save money and time on the facials
[12:10] <GoulJusan> u can't spent too much time on facial cos it'll drag the schedule down al
[12:11] <dgreyz> unless there are very good techniques
[12:11] <GoulJusan> too many characters n scenes
[12:12] <dgreyz> so, well link me if you've found something.
[12:12] <dgreyz> key is, photorealistic>HUMAN>good facial animation.
[12:12] <GoulJusan> would u like male escort website? :D they definately can give u good faci
[12:12] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[12:13] <dgreyz> hehe
[12:13] <dgreyz> I love facials :D
[12:13] <dgreyz> I love to do facials :D
[12:13] <GoulJusan> wait.. as in spa facials?
[12:13] <dgreyz> bukkake ftw!
[12:13] <dgreyz> nm
[12:14] <GoulJusan> o_O
[12:14] <dgreyz> yeah well, if you have good facials , link me too
[12:14] <dgreyz> but I have seen lots of those already.
[12:14] <GoulJusan> mkay :D
[12:14] <dgreyz> I specifically mean animation
[12:15] <dgreyz> u know, 3d animation
[12:15] <GoulJusan> i personally like cartoony stuffz
[12:15] <GoulJusan> more cheerful
[12:15] <dgreyz> toonporn, not my thing.
[12:16] <GoulJusan> dun remind me that pls..... the place i used to work had a guy that love
[12:16] <dgreyz> any good?
[12:17] <dgreyz> now thats a challenge to put in some realism
[12:17] <GoulJusan> and i found someone actually selling gay 3d porn online...
[12:17] <dgreyz> specially for realtime
[12:17] <GoulJusan> i wa like wow!!! u can really selll those? it looked like bad render of t
[12:17] <dgreyz> hmm
[12:18] <GoulJusan> u can sell anything online o_o
[12:19] <dgreyz> we should sell max help from off this channel
[12:20] <GoulJusan> lol
[12:21] <GoulJusan> 1 alphabet 0.1 cent
[12:23] <dgreyz> you dont play games btw?
[12:23] <GoulJusan> i play wow... why?
[12:23] <dgreyz> no real games?
[12:23] <GoulJusan> wots real in games?
[12:23] <GoulJusan> u mean sports?
[12:23] <dgreyz> like games that dont suck ;)
[12:24] <dgreyz> nah kidding
[12:24] <Deison> lol
[12:24] <dgreyz> I have ninja gaiden 2 :)
[12:24] <Deison> dude if I didnt get into gaming I would be a 3d guru by now
[12:24] <GoulJusan> lol
[12:24] <Deison> instead I'm a nub!
[12:24] <dgreyz> if I didnt spend years smoking dobe I would be even more a 3d guru now
[12:24] <GoulJusan> hey even when i dun do gaming i didn't ended up becoming 3d guru
[12:25] <dgreyz> dope
[12:25] <Deison> lol
[12:25] <GoulJusan> i'm the master of snoozing
[12:25] <dgreyz> so deison you have ninja gaiden 2?
[12:25] <dgreyz> I actually started gaming again with gta4
[12:25] <Deison> nah :(
[12:26] <dgreyz> bought an xbox n played it
[12:26] <GoulJusan> ewww yer such a violent person
[12:26] <Deison> i just have a 360, gears of war, gta4, bioshock, mass effect...a couple othe
[12:26] <Deison> more of a pc gamer tho, i play wow, cod4, etc
[12:26] <GoulJusan> xbox is good for watching shows u get off the net like those chinese webs
[12:26] <dgreyz> ah I have bioshock too
[12:26] <Deison> i didnt beat bioshock yet lol
[12:26] <dgreyz> I did :)
[12:26] <Deison> its too creepy for me :p
[12:26] <Deison> freaks me the shit out!
[12:26] <GoulJusan> u play wow? buddy!!!!
[12:26] <dgreyz> lol
[12:27] <GoulJusan> but i like city of heroew
[12:27] <dgreyz> yeah its cool how you can kill those lilttle sisters
[12:27] <Deison> yeah but what are the chances of us being on the same server! 1 in 100?
[12:27] <GoulJusan> heroes
[12:27] <Deison> which wow server u on? please say Korgath!
[12:27] <GoulJusan> wot server yer on?
[12:27] <GoulJusan> ermmm terenas
[12:27] <Deison> Arghhhhhh (in advance)
[12:27] <Deison> ARGHHHHHHHHH
[12:27] <Deison> lol
[12:27] <GoulJusan> lol
[12:28] <GoulJusan> i'm on several
[12:28] <Deison> start on korgath lets make a guild called "3dsmax guru's"
[12:28] <GoulJusan> oooo
[12:28] <dgreyz> how paradoxial
[12:28] <Deison> lol
[12:29] <Deison> i can only wish I was a guru. I'm still learning how to unwrap and texture
[12:29] <GoulJusan> n console the blizzard artist on 3d?
[12:29] <Deison> I bought the 3dbuzz fundamentals of 3dsmax DVD and I have to say it kicks as
[12:29] <GoulJusan> rich
[12:29] <GoulJusan> i can't afford shitz
[12:29] <Deison> its $99 lol
[12:29] <GoulJusan> wow too much n now i'm addicted
[12:29] <dgreyz> but you can come to NL
[12:29] <GoulJusan> shhhh
[12:29] <dgreyz> and wow contract
[12:30] <Deison> I need to find a good photoshop DVD, I want to become good at texturing
[12:30] <Deison> and maybe a good Zbrush dvd!
[12:30] <GoulJusan> i'm trying to get some pity points here...
[12:30] <dgreyz> Deison, yeah when you have the time, do this
[12:30] <dgreyz> how old are you?
[12:30] <GoulJusan> btw my fkight tickets to NL is free :P
[12:30] <Deison> I'm 27
[12:31] <dgreyz> and you do it in your evenings and weekends then right?
[12:31] <Deison> Well I just got a laptop so I'm actually doing 3d at work, doing it when i c
[12:31] <Deison> basically just doing it!
[12:31] <GoulJusan> deison.. inorder to learn 3d u gotta give up the rest of yer hobby.. like
[12:31] <Deison> yeah I know, thats the hardest part :(
[12:32] <GoulJusan> before i came on here i was good.. now i'm just here hahahha
[12:32] <GoulJusan> irc can be addictive like wow
[12:32] <Deison> lol
[12:33] <Deison> well I'm glad I found this channel, I like being able to talk with other 3ds
[12:33] <Deison> I just found it yesterday
[12:33] <GoulJusan> oh we're very chatty :D
[12:33] <Deison> yesterday nobody said I word :P
[12:33] <Deison> while I was here anyway, lol
[12:33] <dgreyz> Deison what you do at work when you can do 3d?
[12:34] <GoulJusan> oh they were just testing to see if u'll turn into a beautiful faerie and
[12:34] <GoulJusan> yeah what do u do for a living?
[12:34] <Deison> im a network admin
[12:35] <GoulJusan> ooooooooooooooo nice
[12:35] <dgreyz> :o
[12:35] <dgreyz> geek!
[12:35] <GoulJusan> easy n relaxing
[12:35] <dgreyz> hehe
[12:35] <GoulJusan> i tend to like geeks... less artist echo thing
[12:35] <Deison> yeah im chillin' here in my office chatting it up in IRC with PS and 3dsmax
[12:35] * GoulJusan looks at dgreyz
[12:35] <Deison> ;)
[12:35] <GoulJusan> ego
[12:35] <GoulJusan> echo=ego
[12:35] <dgreyz> what
[12:35] <dgreyz> im into IT too
[12:35] <GoulJusan> heheh just teasing
[12:36] <dgreyz> the only thing I do in IT is refusing job offers
[12:36] <GoulJusan> as an admin u could spend time doing 3d :D
[12:36] <dgreyz> somehow they still have my cv in all those databases
[12:36] <GoulJusan> oooodgreyz yer freaking popular?
[12:37] <dgreyz> yeah
[12:37] <GoulJusan> or there are very few good artist that does good 3d in nl?
[12:37] <dgreyz> dont know
[12:37] <Deison> nl?
[12:37] <dgreyz> no its IT reltated jobs
[12:37] <GoulJusan> madkarma popular too
[12:37] <dgreyz> IT
[12:37] <dgreyz> computer stuff
[12:37] <GoulJusan> oh
[12:37] <dgreyz> geek stuff
[12:38] <GoulJusan> nl = netherland
[12:38] <dgreyz> s
[12:38] <Deison> Oh
[12:38] <Deison> right!
[12:38] <GoulJusan> u know the stingy country
[12:38] <GoulJusan> 'go duth'
[12:38] <GoulJusan> dutch
[12:38] <Deison> You guys dual screen?
[12:38] <GoulJusan> nope
[12:38] <Deison> 1 side max 1 side ps?
[12:38] <Deison> hrm
[12:38] <dgreyz> one side ps now other IRC
[12:38] <dgreyz> hehe
[12:38] <Deison> lol
[12:39] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[12:39] <^ichi^_> hoe
[12:39] <^ichi^_> ;3
[12:39] <GoulJusan> i'm too poor fer additional screen
[12:39] <^ichi^_> get back to work then !
[12:39] <GoulJusan> dgreys how;s yer work?
[12:39] <GoulJusan> heya ichibunni
[12:39] <Deison> I know how to model stuff on an intermediate level, its just I don't know th
[12:39] <dgreyz> yeah, I gotta listen to ichi
[12:40] <dgreyz> job, alright
[12:40] <Deison> nor the animation part, nor the cloth or physics, or particle effects, nor l
[12:40] <dgreyz> I think I was sick last days of this week.
[12:40] <GoulJusan> greyz... remember we'll have a lunch gathering yeah?
[12:40] <GoulJusan> madkarma is totally into it
[12:40] <dgreyz> yeah with the bbq
[12:40] <dgreyz> I remember
[12:40] <GoulJusan> we can hit maddie's place
[12:41] <dgreyz> oh sure
[12:41] <dgreyz> but I dont plan that far ahead
[12:41] <GoulJusan> u know i love to plan
[12:41] <dgreyz> since im sick now, maybe I wont make next week
[12:42] <GoulJusan> let me know which grave so i could dig u up by then.. it's the essence of
[12:42] <dgreyz> just have the bbq at the funeral
[12:42] <GoulJusan> u mean if we lack of burning material we could use yer coffin wood?
[12:42] <GoulJusan> how bout the meat department?
[12:43] <dgreyz> sure
[12:43] <dgreyz> but if I die of disease
[12:43] <GoulJusan> mkay :D
[12:43] <dgreyz> not sure if thats good idea
[12:43] <dgreyz> :(
[12:43] <GoulJusan> oh.. u mean we can't eat u if u are still alive? but it's fresher
[12:44] <dgreyz> why are you saying these silly things?
[12:44] <GoulJusan> i dunno
[12:44] <GoulJusan> i just had alot of sugar
[12:45] <GoulJusan> i'm giddy when i have too much sugar
[12:45] <GoulJusan> deison where yer from?
[12:45] * Anvile gives GoulJusan some salt
[12:45] <GoulJusan> heya anvile
[12:45] <Anvile> yo
[12:45] <GoulJusan> yer
[12:45] <dgreyz> stop it!
[12:45] <GoulJusan> ll have to come too anvile :D
[12:46] <Anvile> :O
[12:46] <dgreyz> GoulJusan
[12:46] <GoulJusan> me and madkarma really interested in meeting u pple on here...
[12:46] <Anvile> i'm a cop you idiot
[12:46] <dgreyz> if I got bit by a tigermusquito
[12:46] <dgreyz> and it carries a disease
[12:46] <dgreyz> I gonna kill you!
[12:46] <GoulJusan> tiger mosquito in nl?
[12:47] <dgreyz> yeah
[12:47] <dgreyz> they come with bamboo plants
[12:47] <GoulJusan> by the way dgreyz u having flu or something?
[12:47] <dgreyz> yeah
[12:48] <GoulJusan> poor thing.. have more soup
[12:48] <dgreyz> and I got bit by musquito
[12:48] <dgreyz> but that was after the flu
[12:48] <dgreyz> I love to kill musquitos
[12:48] <GoulJusan> GTA too much
[12:48] <dgreyz> no they hurt me too much
[12:49] <dgreyz> and I never harm any creature
[12:49] <GoulJusan> skip eating beef
[12:49] <dgreyz> I dont eat beef
[12:49] <GoulJusan> oh
[12:49] <GoulJusan> okee
[12:49] <GoulJusan> u into bbq or fried food?
[12:49] <GoulJusan> heaty body attracts more mosquitos
[12:50] <GoulJusan> either that or they just love u
[12:50] <dgreyz> they do
[12:50] <dgreyz> heat and water vapor they say
[12:51] <dgreyz> you mean heat as in warmth?
[12:51] <dgreyz> or heat as in "fire" of the food myths?
[12:51] <dgreyz> well, im hot yeah.
[12:51] <GoulJusan> when i was there i brought a bunch of mosquito repel stickers.. it's not
[12:51] <dgreyz> flu
[12:52] <Deison> did you guys do all the tutorials that came with 3dsmax?
[12:53] <GoulJusan> nope
[12:53] <dgreyz> ninja gaiden 2, thats violent
[12:54] <GoulJusan> when i start 3d i bacially start with some basics and then go into the th
[12:54] <Deison> check out this piece from the 3ds max tutorials. This shit makes my brain h
[12:54] <GoulJusan> hehe
[12:55] <Deison> "Because Channel Info provides access to the channel that stores the current
[12:55] <Deison> It's important to remember, however, that the vertex-selection channel has o
[12:55] <GoulJusan> that is the reason i play wow
[12:55] <Deison> someone kill me why can't i understand that :)
[12:56] <Deison> lol
[12:56] <dgreyz> well
[12:56] <GoulJusan> well start with simple stuffz
[12:56] <dgreyz> whats not clear?
[12:56] <Deison> everything lol
[12:57] <GoulJusan> hehe
[12:57] <dgreyz> I dont get the component part though
[12:57] <dgreyz> where is this? unwrap uvw?
[12:57] <Deison> the 2nd paragraph is particularly complicated/confusing
[12:57] <Deison> yeah
[12:58] <GoulJusan> i stay away from those tutorial... i suspect they include those to mess u
[12:58] <Deison> "Using the channel info utility"
[12:58] <dgreyz> you are using it?
[12:58] <Deison> yeah
[12:58] <Deison> up until I read this
[12:58] <Deison> then my brain just imploded
[12:59] <dgreyz> I never use that util
[13:00] <Deison> how do you keep track of all your channels?
[13:00] <dgreyz> I dont
[13:01] <Deison> lol
[13:04] <dgreyz> no you dont have to
[13:11] <Deison> yeah I figured as much
[13:37] <GoulJusan> rest time
[13:37] <GoulJusan> ciao alllllllllllllllllll have fun
[13:37] <Deison> later man
[13:37] <GoulJusan> keep up learning :D
[13:38] <Deison> haha thanks :)
[13:58] <Bercon> http://george-eby-research.com/gif/China-FDA.jpg
[14:00] <dgreyz> hey [gk]!
[14:00] <dgreyz> whats up
[14:01] <dgreyz> been to the 3rdreich already?
[14:20] <[gk]> 3rdreich?
[14:46] <dgreyz> hehe yeah
[14:46] <dgreyz> i mean germany
[14:48] <GS> germany is the 2nd reich
[14:48] <GS> with the official surrender and contracts the 3rd reich stopped existing, so eve
[14:49] <dgreyz> man you know what I mean
[14:49] <Anvile> lol
[14:49] <Anvile> so the olympics opening was cool
[14:50] <GS> aside of being held in a completely fucked up country
[14:50] <dgreyz> oh come on that doesnt matter
[14:50] <dgreyz> pretty a challenge for the athletes
[14:50] <dgreyz> to breath
[14:50] <dgreyz> hehe
[14:54] <dgreyz> test?
[14:54] <GS> F
[14:55] <dgreyz> F what?
[14:55] <Anvile> lag: 0.008 seconds
[14:55] <GS> F as in FAILED
[14:55] <dgreyz> :(
[14:55] <Hierofant> Is it true that there are some athletes refuse to participate in China?
[14:55] <Hierofant> because of the bad air, that is
[14:55] <Anvile> what about the giant fireworks dove wings they made
[14:55] <Anvile> crazy
[14:55] <Hierofant> Anvile - when and where did they do that?
[14:59] <Sumo911> that was censored by the US govt from media because dove wings are an inter
[15:01] <GS> or maybe the dove had a nipple-like looking feature somewhere
[15:02] <Sumo911> oh dove nipples :9
[15:02] <Sumo911> much better than chicken wings
[15:03] <Hierofant> I'll take a 50 piece bucket with Jamaican sauce
[15:05] <Hierofant> oh wait they're censored from the internet too
[15:08] <Sumo911> damn peace mongers
[15:28] <Anvile> Hierofant: when everyone did the "dove wings" thing with their hands
[15:28] <timbre> i do love with my dick
[15:29] <Anvile> i think after when all the countries were done comin' in the stadium
[15:29] <timbre> btw theres a new war
[15:29] <timbre> in russia
[15:29] <Hierofant> haha yeah
[15:29] <Hierofant> thanks a lot, China!
[15:29] <Hierofant> :P
[15:29] <timbre> i couldnt believe it
[15:30] <Hierofant> Russia was feeling left out with the whole Middle East Al Qaeda thing
[15:30] <timbre> it felt so dissapointing that there can still start new wars
[15:30] <Hierofant> they got the short stick when they drew Chechnya
[15:30] <Hierofant> wasn't big enough
[15:34] <timbre> china is such a rotten system
[15:34] <timbre> really
[15:34] <timbre> like any big government
[15:34] <timbre> it just doesnt work
[15:34] <timbre> simple
[15:35] <timbre> suppression, censorship, secrecy and all the shit
[15:35] <timbre> it starts to get annoying
[15:36] <timbre> all those countries killing each other
[15:36] <amigo> timbre right, and the western world is bastion of democracy and freedom? :P
[15:37] <Refracted> suppression, censorship, secrecy
[15:37] <amigo> there's so much freedom in the western world they export it to other countrie
[15:37] <Refracted> i thought you were talking about the US there for a second.. had to read
[15:37] <Refracted> :P
[15:37] <amigo> hehe
[15:37] <Refracted> lol amigo
[15:37] <amigo> they brought god to ungodly peoples too
[15:38] <amigo> iraq, afghanistan, and numerous other countries that were invaded since WWII
[15:38] <Refracted> i LOVE reading articles about missionaries getting attached/kidnapped
[15:38] <Refracted> ck
[15:38] <amigo> they are doing the "holy" work :(
[15:38] <Refracted> then may god protect them .. lol
[15:38] <amigo> as if those people there have no beliefs so they need ours crammed down their
[15:39] <amigo> but as u know, the victors write the history
[15:39] <amigo> so...
[15:39] <Refracted> been reading another of those religious booklets.. i love reading those..
[15:40] <amigo> see i dont have a problem with any of those people and their beliefs
[15:40] <amigo> i have a problem when they try to cram it down the throat of others
[15:40] <Refracted> the only ones i have a problem with are the ones that wake me up at 8 am
[15:40] <Refracted> thats where i got the booklet
[15:40] <GS> i have a ww2 bajonet by the door for those guys.
[15:41] <amigo> "Beware of the hungry dogs"
[15:41] <amigo> "Smithers, release the hounds"
[15:41] <amigo> hehe
[15:41] <GS> "beware of hungry dogs with bees in their mouths"
[15:41] <amigo> haha
[15:41] <Refracted> you know when you're reading a scientific article.// there can be referen
[15:42] <amigo> sorry man but scientific articles are no better
[15:42] <amigo> they invent things just as much as the others
[15:42] <Refracted> hehe.. true enough.. wiki especially :P
[15:42] <amigo> heck whole quauntum mechanics field is a hoax and an invention
[15:42] <Refracted> [reference needed]
[15:42] <GS> so you dont believe in quantum mechanics?
[15:43] <amigo> lol
[15:43] <amigo> believe is such a strong word
[15:43] <Refracted> lol
[15:43] <GS> :P
[15:43] <Refracted> i'm hoping for a black hole at the hadron collider
[15:43] <GS> heh
[15:43] <Refracted> er.. i think there's an extra r in there
[15:43] <amigo> to eat all those assholes there :P
[15:43] <Refracted> Today's the day Bell Mobility implements a new fee charging users 15 cent
[15:43] <amigo> too bad it'll continue eating the rest of the matter
[15:44] <Refracted> 15 cents for spam.. hurrah
[15:44] <Refracted> eh.. what do i care.. i dont have a cell :P
[15:44] <GS> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
[15:44] <amigo> i thought there always was a fee?
[15:44] <GS> seen this? :D
[15:44] <Refracted> only when you send
[15:44] <Refracted> not when you receive
[15:44] <GS> charge for receiving a message?
[15:44] <GS> so the one sending pays AND the one receiving?
[15:45] <Refracted> yes
[15:45] <GS> lol
[15:45] <amigo> double profit for the providers
[15:45] <Refracted> and if somoene spams you with messages.. you have to pay for that
[15:45] <amigo> welcome to the western world :P
[15:45] <amigo> where government regulators get kickbacks to keep corporate interests high
[15:45] <GS> i dont think people will accept that
[15:45] <GS> the .15 fee
[15:45] <Refracted> they dont have much choice
[15:46] <Refracted> another provider is doing it also
[15:46] <GS> haha
[15:46] <GS> thats insane
[15:46] <Refracted> and canada's competition for service providers is.. weak
[15:46] <GS> ah, canada.
[15:46] <amigo> what competition?
[15:46] <amigo> bell and rogers have a market divided
[15:47] <GS> lol
[15:47] <Refracted> telus
[15:47] <GS> germany has like.. 30? 50? providers :P
[15:47] <Refracted> but telus is the one thats also adding the fee
[15:47] <GS> i think most european countries do have plenty
[15:47] <Refracted> Telus customers won't be affected until Aug. 24.
[15:47] <amigo> two weeks later, hehe woopdeedoo
[15:47] <Refracted> you pay a fraction what we do also for service
[15:48] <Refracted> canada gets butt raped for data transmissions
[15:48] <GS> we do too, compared to the US
[15:48] <GS> well, you can always move out of there ref :P
[15:49] <Refracted> oh i dont perticularly care.. i dont even have a cell phone lol
[15:49] <Refracted> it just sucks for the people that do :P
[15:53] <Anvile> amiiiiiiigooooooo
[15:54] <amigo> howdy Anvile
[15:54] <Anvile> yo
[15:54] <Anvile> you're alive
[15:54] <Anvile> :o
[16:01] <amigo> Anvile just lurking :)
[16:02] <Anvile> ah :P
[16:02] <Anvile> hows it going and all
[16:02] <amigo> good thanks, and u
[16:07] <Anvile> good good
[16:07] <Anvile> vacation is almost over :<
[16:10] <amigo> gotta hate that
[16:10] <amigo> never enough time
[16:10] <Anvile> nope
[16:11] <Hierofant> enough tim e= retirement
[16:12] <amigo> Hierofant not really cuz then u are old and not able to do things u could do
[16:12] <Hierofant> I didn't specify an age :D
[16:13] <amigo> if u live in the West then it is unlikely u can retire young, most people can
[16:14] <flashed> hi
[16:14] <flashed> hey amigo
[16:14] <Hierofant> everything's relative
[16:15] <Hierofant> a lot of westerners have never had to work, either
[16:15] <amigo> hey flashed
[16:15] <amigo> Hierofant the upper upper class? :P
[16:15] <Hierofant> right
[16:15] <Hierofant> but theres the other element
[16:15] <Hierofant> or rather, the other approach
[16:15] <Hierofant> live with less
[16:15] <Hierofant> spend less, need less
[16:16] <Hierofant> fix anything that breaks, preferrably yourself
[16:17] <amigo> perhaps but not many people can live with less, far from needing less
[16:24] <[gk]> correct, I'd die fast without goals, things to do. That goes well hand in hand
[16:26] <Hierofant> "not many people can live with less" - in the western world, who are you
[16:27] <Hierofant> obviously not the majority
[16:31] <[gk]> its not the question if they can..most people can enjure massive physical tort
[16:32] <[gk]> vast amounts of new stuff and upgrades, its in our nature.
[16:33] <[gk]> but not for the *saved who saw the light* nor monks or priests or samaritans.
[16:34] <[gk]> but those people are counted for as the extreem minority
[16:38] * amigo- is now known as amigo
[16:40] <Hierofant> agreed. that's why I take issue with the statement "if u live in the Wes
[16:40] <Hierofant> They could afford it to do with less.
[16:41] <[gk]> you need to level out the income with the purchased stuff its not rocket scien
[16:42] <Hierofant> I agree
[17:06] <timbre> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imt8VwgK9ZU en don pleh wiz jor zizii wajl am
[17:26] <GS> ha, i found new nice and interesting ways of combining maps :D
[17:26] <flashed> with boobs?
[17:27] <GS> almost as cool as boobs, yeah
[17:29] <Hierofant> care to share?
[17:37] * netsplitt is now known as NeTSP|iT
[17:51] <Hedon> aloha
[17:51] <flashed> hey
[17:52] <Hedon> Hi Flashed
[17:53] <Hedon> I think I found a good Organ for my Chop project
[17:53] <Hedon> Another good freebie
[17:53] <Hedon> :)
[17:53] <Hierofant> oh you're the Hammond guy
[17:54] <Hedon> yeah, I just need to find a better setup for bringing one to gigs
[17:54] <Hedon> I was going to go buy a PortaB like 4oo miles away for $250
[17:55] <Hedon> but I'm Picking up a L-102 tomorrow for free that has a bit better tone
[17:56] <flashed> :)
[17:56] <flashed> business is going good then
[17:56] <Hedon> yeah, I wish I had a bigger truck so I could pick up a couple a day
[17:57] <Hedon> and a place to put them
[18:00] <Hedon> Always searching for old vintage Synths too
[18:00] <Hedon> friend found a Buchla in a dumpster....and people were offering $50,000
[18:02] <Hedon> There are some amazing stuff I had to turn down because I didn't have a big e
[18:02] <Hedon> Remember that big Organ in the movie Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind??
[18:03] <Hedon> Was real close to that model
[18:03] <Hedon> no way to haul it without renting a truck
[18:04] <Hedon> bbl
[18:05] <Hierofant> Um WHAT
[18:05] <Hierofant> a Buchla??
[18:05] <Hierofant> sweet
[18:06] <Hierofant> Theres a dude on some channels that worked with Buchla to build the elect
[18:10] <chai> CS biped question - I have position a skeleton well on the limbs (arms/fingers
[18:23] * flaxed is now known as flashed
[18:51] <Hedon> back
[18:51] <Hedon> wow, Opening Ceromonies are pretty wild
[18:51] <flashed> yeah
[18:52] <flashed> they're just airing now over there?
[18:53] <Hedon> Hierofant...yeah... Bob helped my friend get this running http://www.youtube.
[18:53] <Hedon> yeah
[18:57] <Hedon> I love old stuff like that
[18:57] <Hedon> My first synthesizer was an Arp Onmi when I was like 13
[18:59] <Hedon> simple little beast http://www.tonetweakers.com/images/used/arp_omni1.2_pics_
[19:02] <flashed> hehe
[19:02] <Hedon> http://peterunderdog.com/arp/index.html wow.. someone actually has a site d
[21:11] <chai> wha 3dsmax is having a seizure, pauses for a whole minute every 5 minutes
[21:13] <chai> I think it's a sign to take a break for the day and restart the comp sometime
[21:33] <Bercon> autobackup?
[21:37] <[gk]> no i think ive been experiencing that sudden idle freeze thingg too.
[21:37] <[gk]> it was related to something else. dont know what
Session Close: Sat Aug 09 00:00:00 2008