Session Start: Sun Aug 03 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:10] <Bercon1> Create some object and set it as pivot center
[03:32] <chai> bercon, it's just for rotating some verts
[03:37] <kaotrix> chai marry me plz
[03:38] <chai> why ?
[03:39] <kaotrix> plz baby
[03:39] <kaotrix> i think ur sexy
[03:40] <chai> kaotrix, I'm not ready for a long term relationship, we'll have to do with som
[03:47] <Hedon> why ruin a good relationship with marriage
[03:48] <Hedon> Why do women smile so much in their wedding pictures??? Because they know th
[03:48] <Hedon> ;)
[03:51] <chai> I think if it was up to women, they'd have a marriage every year
[03:51] <chai> wedding dress magazines are the playboy for women
[03:55] <Hedon> lol
[03:59] <Hedon> I thought that was the Sears Christmas Catalog
[04:52] * ghib[4d] is now known as ghib[away
[04:54] <chai> howdy ghib[4d] :)
[05:03] <kaotrix> http://talitha.cvk.ca/StevenJackson-EXPOSED.jpg
[05:12] <ghib[away> lo chai how's you?
[05:15] <chai> not bad, been busy rigging my new character
[05:15] <chai> had a good weekend, lotsa partying and chillin out :)
[05:16] <ghib[away> yeh, I'm pretty hungover here too.
[05:16] <ghib[away> what's the new character?
[05:16] <ghib[away> and what you rigging it in?
[05:17] <chai> 3dsmax
[05:17] <ghib[away> ah, CS?
[05:17] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/gray_render_01.jpg
[05:17] <ghib[away> or good ol max bones etc
[05:17] <chai> yah
[05:17] <chai> CS
[05:17] <chai> just had a play with the joints - http://www.svartberg.com/wip/vidShot004.avi
[05:17] <chai> http://www.svartberg.com/wip/vidShot004_wireframe.avi
[05:17] <ghib[away> ah, he's cool. good job
[05:18] <chai> I've started that one using polycruncher on the highpoly, so I'll probably edi
[05:18] <chai> cheers :)
[05:19] <ghib[away> why using polycruncher?
[05:19] <ghib[away> for baking purposes?
[05:21] <chai> no, to get a lowpoly from highpoly
[05:22] <chai> saves heaps of time
[05:22] <ghib[away> really? I've never used it. My animation mesh usually differs quite sign
[05:23] <chai> ya, I'm using it for the starting point - just trying it for the first time
[05:24] <ghib[away> I've been using silo for retop & UVMapping lately. The UV workflow is lo
[05:25] <chai> cool !
[05:30] <chai> any tips for getting the geometry ready for animation ?
[05:31] <chai> I know how to do geometry for single direction bones easy (like fingers, arms,
[05:32] <ghib[away> hah. yeah. damn good question that. The shoulders and pelvis are the most
[05:32] <ghib[away> there are 2 good threads on polycount for that
[05:34] <chai> stickies ?
[05:35] <ghib[away> hrm trying to find.. the one on shoulders is called 'shoulders from japan
[05:36] <ghib[away> http://boards.polycount.net/showthread.php?t=46031&highlight=shoulders+ja
[05:37] <chai> funny name :)
[05:38] <ghib[away> heh, yeah. but if you read the thread it all makes sense
[05:38] <chai> awesome !
[05:38] <chai> thanks a lot man
[05:39] <chai> I wonder how they called the pelvis thread :P
[05:41] <chai> shoulders gonna be a bit tricky as my creature is less a human there
[05:42] <ghib[away> yeah. I think a mixture between the two styles is the best method
[05:42] <ghib[away> trying to find the one on the pelvis
[05:43] <chai> I think it's the butt deformation thread
[05:43] <ghib[away> heh
[05:43] <chai> ah no :P
[05:44] <ghib[away> http://wiki.polycount.net/Topology here's quite a good page for info
[05:46] <ghib[away> http://www.theminters.com/misc/articles/derived-surfaces/index.htm you'v
[05:47] <chai> I didn't get this one 5 years ago, and I don't get it now
[05:47] <chai> he might be an amazing animator, but his explanations are poop imo
[05:48] <ghib[away> I disagree, this page has really helped me out
[05:48] <ghib[away> I think it was a combination of this and the Pole thread on subdivision m
[05:50] <chai> nothing about shoulders/pelvis on the polycount page
[05:50] <chai> useful images though cheers
[05:50] <chai> I like how how ben explains the simple joints
[05:52] <ghib[away> Figure 15 on theminter page is the one that helped me the most
[05:53] <chai> it's bay raitt aye ?
[05:53] <ghib[away> yup
[05:58] <chai> it's going to be very interesting to rig this monster :)
[05:59] <chai> I'll weight the tail to the lower spline probably
[06:06] <ghib[away> hmm. not sure. I'd maybe extend it from the root bone
[06:06] <ghib[away> could be wrong about that tho
[06:11] <chai> what do you think of my current arm deformation ?
[06:12] <ghib[away> it's pretty good.
[06:14] <ghib[away> there's a little bit of clipping that's visible but it's unavoidable on l
[06:15] <chai> I thought clipping is normal
[06:15] <chai> doesn't look that bad
[06:19] <ghib[away> maybe it's just that angle
[06:23] <chai> oh I see what you mean now
[06:23] <chai> anyway gonna hit the bed, night bro
[06:24] <ghib[away> k mate. take care
[06:35] <ghib[away> http://pig-brain.com/tut02/tut02_01.htm chai, that's it. Courtesy of Ric
[06:37] <chai> awesome !
[06:37] <chai> cheers
[06:38] <TheBat> interesting rigging stuff flying by :)
[07:01] <Bercon1> Here is our shortfilm ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2008/assembly08/short
[07:01] * Bercon1 is now known as Bercon
[07:02] <Bercon> Won the shortfilm competetion at Assembly2008
[07:02] <ichi__> damn, i'd like to go to that one year
[07:10] <suurland> looks very nice.. but looks very "maxon" like.. did the rest of you really
[07:10] <suurland> the file plays very badly though.. very choppy
[07:20] <ichi__> hehe, bercon that was ace
[07:24] <AceOvArts> ya maybe the bitrate is a little too high ?...audio seems to be the culpr
[07:25] <ghib[away> lo Ace
[07:25] <AceOvArts> heylo
[07:27] <Anvile> Bercon you were at assembly?
[07:28] <Bercon> Yeah
[07:28] <Anvile> cool
[07:28] <Anvile> i always wanted to go
[07:28] <Bercon> suurland, he probably did something like 60-70% of it
[07:31] <Bercon> Damn, I got iphone and tried to use VNC. The max resolution it supports is 1
[07:31] <Bercon> Doesn't seem like you can move the area it displays either
[07:31] <Anvile> playback is crapola Bercon
[07:31] <Anvile> what gives ay
[07:33] * jh- is now known as shcmack
[07:33] <GS> for having downloaded the whole thing, playback is really fucked up
[07:38] <ichi__> streaming wasn't enabled when it was compressed i'd bet
[07:38] <ichi__> plays well enough in quicktime though
[07:38] <Bercon> save it and play it from your computer?
[07:39] <ichi__> ^ you don't have a choice
[07:39] <suurland> still plays badly
[07:39] <GS> i tried that
[07:39] <GS> still fucked up ;)
[08:19] * Lotny_ is now known as Lotny
[08:51] <dharmaone> sup guys.. id like to experiment with zaha hadid, frank gehry style freef
[09:27] <[ut]> dharmaone: show image of named architects work
[09:28] <[ut]> I was on a field trip to london, went to zaha's biologic institute, that was a
[09:28] <[ut]> max could do that no sweat
[09:28] <dharmaone> http://www.dezeen.com/2007/02/02/zaha-hadid-in-abu-dhabi-update/
[09:29] <dharmaone> cool
[09:29] <dharmaone> yeah she doesnt have a lot of buildings in london for some reason
[09:29] <dharmaone> a lot in the middle east and asia
[09:30] <[ut]> shook hands with the cheif arch that drew one of the towers at ground 0 NY. at
[09:30] <[ut]> i wouldnt want to work there tho
[09:31] <dharmaone> yeah foster is well known. you do architecture?
[09:32] <[ut]> im no architect fortunatly
[09:32] <dharmaone> heheh
[09:32] <dharmaone> neither am i but its interesting
[09:32] <dharmaone> what do you do man?
[09:32] <[ut]> mm..okay :)
[09:33] <[ut]> you should do that with rhino yes. you can do it in max ofcourse. but those st
[09:34] <dharmaone> yeah it looks like nurbs
[09:34] <[ut]> some parts of the ceeling indicates lowpoly smoothed..donno.
[09:34] <dharmaone> dont think its poly modeling.. but with nurbs u get that kind of smooth s
[09:35] <[ut]> ya sure
[09:41] <[ut]> i was on a case before vacation that is 160.000 m^2, placed in denmark..some l
[09:42] <[ut]> we never do cracksmoking buildings. they are pritty normal all of them
[09:43] <[ut]> we do tons of shoeboxes
[09:43] <dharmaone> heh
[09:43] <dharmaone> for aerial
[09:43] <dharmaone> you can mount a hdv cam on an rc plane
[09:44] <ichi__> if you're going to work with nurbs, i would recommend moi3d .
[09:44] <[ut]> not the average rc place :)
[09:44] <[ut]> i know my rc would carry my HD cam, and not the film rig by any chance.
[09:44] <[ut]> wouldnt
[09:44] <dharmaone> ichi ni san shi
[09:45] <[ut]> You can get small cameras, non hd for rc
[09:45] <dharmaone> i tried moi3d- i think its by one of the rhino devs - seemed really nice.
[09:45] <dharmaone> yeah i wouldnt mount film rig on an rc plane no way :)
[09:46] <dharmaone> canon hv30 is a killer cheap hdv cam thats pretty small..will easily go o
[09:46] <[ut]> better to rent a helicopter + operator for gyro mount and off in secure manner
[09:47] <dharmaone> yeah if you got the budget for it and are shooting film, defo
[09:47] <[ut]> i dont think so...not a standard rc plane, i got a 1.2m span RC and a identica
[09:47] <GS> you can mount it under a larger rc helicopter
[09:47] <dharmaone> you can get pretty smooth footage with post processing the bumpiness
[09:48] <ghib[away> didn't like MOI much
[09:48] <GS> some can lift several kgs
[09:48] <dharmaone> nice one ut.. u shoot a lot of aerial stuff with it?
[09:48] <[ut]> yeah rc heli perhaps, good idea.
[09:49] <[ut]> no not alot.
[09:49] <[ut]> i got a 35mm rig tho
[09:49] <[ut]> for it ~
[09:49] <dharmaone> yea? sick
[09:49] <GS> its not real 35mm ;)
[09:49] <dharmaone> film is $$$$ though
[09:49] <dharmaone> im just waiting for the red scarlet
[09:49] <[ut]> me too
[09:50] <Bercon> Okey here we go
[09:50] <Bercon> http://cgi.evtek.fi/~manuj/Field_Trip_partyrelease/HBC-00004_Field_Trip.zip
[09:50] <Bercon> A lot better version of our shortfilm
[09:50] <[ut]> but, the 35mm an indie rig like mine can do, is Feature film style.
[09:51] <[ut]> thats good enough for me i guess
[09:51] <dharmaone> bercon mika toi on?
[09:51] <Bercon> Exactly what I said it is
[09:51] <dharmaone> yeah cant fuck with film
[09:52] <dharmaone> vahan liian iso ladattavaks 3g netil, tsekkaan huomen duunist!
[09:52] <[ut]> i got the redrock mattebox comming. cant wait till i get it
[09:52] <dharmaone> whats that
[09:53] <[ut]> covers for direct flares in lens + holds filters. with french flag and side sk
[09:53] <[ut]> takes ages to ship as its new and the demand is way over what the production c
[09:53] <[ut]> sticks to RED as well
[09:54] <dharmaone> nice
[09:54] <[ut]> cant get a better mattebox quality/price
[09:54] <GS> dude, thats just dull black barndoors ;)
[09:55] <[ut]> carton box with a hole will do
[09:55] <GS> an ages old compendium does the same for way less ;)
[09:55] <[ut]> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.352/.f?sc=2&category=864
[09:55] <[ut]> that one
[09:55] <GS> http://www.mondofoto.com/cameras/EWA_S8K-Kompendium.jpg
[09:55] <GS> ^^
[09:56] <[ut]> oldschool :) nice
[09:56] <GS> and kills even more stray light due to rippled surface ;)
[09:56] <GS> plus it adapts to various focal lenghts ;)
[09:56] <[ut]> how many filter slots does it have?
[09:56] <GS> yeah.
[09:56] <GS> ;L)
[09:57] <[ut]> the one i get has 360 rotating filter slots
[09:57] <GS> 360 filters?
[09:57] <GS> or °?
[09:57] <[ut]> so you can grade to the compesition..if camera is of vert
[09:57] <[ut]> 360deg yes
[09:58] <dharmaone> how often do u shoot vertical tho :)
[09:58] <[ut]> yeah how many..
[09:58] <[ut]> i meant horisontal
[09:58] <[ut]> http://www.droschler.dk//website/swf/rig_spin/ the hv20
[10:01] <dharmaone> hey i remember there being a plugin for max or vray to fake filleted edge
[10:01] <GS> as portable as a t-38 tank
[10:01] <GS> f-edge
[10:01] <dharmaone> nice rig
[10:01] <dharmaone> cheers gs
[10:01] <dharmaone> red scarlet will take over when it arrives
[10:02] <[ut]> we'll see
[10:02] <dharmaone> no more funny looking rigs. im sure yours does a good job tho
[10:02] <GS> when.
[10:02] <dharmaone> tru :D
[10:02] <GS> i'll play duke nukem forever when you get yours.
[10:03] <dharmaone> deal
[10:05] <dharmaone> is f-edge only up until max 9?
[10:06] <GS> final render, mental ray and v-ray do it too, but they're complete renderers, no
[10:06] <dharmaone> ive got vray- how do you do it with it?
[10:07] <dharmaone> vrayedgestex?
[10:08] <dharmaone> sweet.
[10:09] <GS> vray edgetex in bump slot
[10:12] <dharmaone> thanks dude
[10:13] <dharmaone> im looking at rhino... seems to be some cool scripts people have written
[10:18] <dharmaone> this kinda stuff: http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&task
[10:24] * `Arielana is now known as Arielana
[10:31] <dharmaone> www.rhinophoto3d.com
[10:31] <dharmaone> pretty cool
[10:37] <ichi__> haha - that's nuts .
[10:41] <__rob> seems alot of work
[10:41] <__rob> quicker to do that by hand
[10:41] <[ut]> heh
[10:42] <__rob> imagine the whole car
[10:42] <[ut]> a plant?
[10:42] <[ut]> :x
[10:42] <__rob> if you can model proficiently it would probally take you longer to put the st
[10:43] <[ut]> well, you can do the same deal with 3d tracking footage
[10:43] <__rob> yea, I have done that on a head
[10:43] <__rob> with syntheyes
[10:43] <__rob> its good for getting things in the right place
[10:43] <__rob> but not really much of a finished result
[10:45] <GS> i know suurland can model it faster than any of you can accurately put those sti
[10:45] <dharmaone> oh yea syntheyes thats cool too
[10:45] <ichi__> the good thing about that technique is though... you can get someone else to
[10:45] <dharmaone> haha
[10:45] <dharmaone> true
[10:46] <dharmaone> 10 minutes for 50 targets / 100 Points
[10:46] <dharmaone> with rhinophoto
[10:46] <dharmaone> could be good for something if u need the measurements exactly the same a
[10:46] <GS> plus you need a cam and someone who knows how to operate it
[10:46] <dharmaone> this one gives nurbs output i suppose
[10:46] <GS> plus light
[10:47] <dharmaone> im gonna try it anyway to see
[10:47] <dharmaone> its free beta
[10:48] <dharmaone> yeah seems to do the same as syntheyes
[10:59] <Arielana> hi GJ :)
[10:59] <GoulJusan> arie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *slurps*
[11:00] <Arielana> how are ya?
[11:00] <GoulJusan> gooood and how are you? :)
[11:00] <Arielana> doing alright
[11:02] <Arielana> giving Anvile some bad news
[11:02] <Arielana> hehe
[11:03] <GoulJusan> oh no... Anvile proposed and u turned him down for a stud?
[11:03] <Arielana> lol
[11:03] <Arielana> no
[11:03] <Arielana> that the new mortal kombat game isn't gonna have fatalities
[11:03] <GS> haha
[11:04] <GoulJusan> Noooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:04] <GS> censored out due to war on terrorism
[11:04] <Arielana> nah
[11:04] <GoulJusan> NoooOOOOooOooOoooo.........
[11:04] <Arielana> it's mortal kombat vs dc universe
[11:04] <Arielana> as in sub-zero vs batman
[11:04] <Arielana> so since it's kid oriented, no fatalities
[11:04] <GS> oh, xcuse me.. thats war on tourism now
[11:04] <Arielana> http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167475
[11:04] <GoulJusan> no fatality is just a man with no balls
[11:05] <GS> then anvile will like it ;)
[11:05] <GoulJusan> lol
[11:05] <Arielana> hahaha
[11:05] <Arielana> that's mean1
[11:05] <Arielana> !
[11:05] <GS> im german. i can live with that.
[11:06] <GoulJusan> he's into S&M
[11:06] <Arielana> yeah i know
[11:06] <GS> <- mean machine
[11:06] <GS> anvile or me?
[11:06] <GoulJusan> i've seen a german pic of a guy with his balls getting stepped upon by a
[11:07] <GS> you dont want to know what i've seen japanese men do ;)
[11:07] <GS> or having done to them ;)
[11:07] <Arielana> hehe
[11:07] <GoulJusan> oh i think i've seen quit alot
[11:07] <Bercon> I don't wanna hear that you've seen something I don't wanna see
[11:07] <GoulJusan> but do show me
[11:07] <GoulJusan> hehehe
[11:07] <GS> GoulJusan is a drag domina?
[11:08] <GoulJusan> show show show me interested to get corrupted.. me too innocent *ahem*
[11:08] <GS> lol
[11:08] <Arielana> nah GoulJusan would rather be the submissive i would think
[11:08] <GoulJusan> i'm not anvile!
[11:09] <GoulJusan> dun get us mixed up hehehhehehe
[11:09] <GoulJusan> is he around... *checkIng*...
[11:09] <GoulJusan> oops!
[11:09] <Arielana> yeah but you're so small
[11:09] <GoulJusan> he's there!
[11:09] <Arielana> i could kick your ass
[11:09] <GS> hes on vacation
[11:09] <Arielana> hehe
[11:09] <GoulJusan> oh wonder where
[11:09] <GS> at home :D
[11:09] <GoulJusan> i'm 5'8" and 90 kg
[11:10] <GS> in the living room
[11:10] <Arielana> yeah, small :P
[11:10] <GS> heh, goul
[11:10] <GS> you're what i eat for second breakfast ;)
[11:11] <GS> mith
[11:11] <Mithandir> that's me
[11:12] <GoulJusan> how big is arie?
[11:12] * GS calls jamie and adam
[11:12] <GoulJusan> gay couple?
[11:13] <GS> mythbusters :P
[11:13] <GoulJusan> gay couples then
[11:13] <Bercon> Did they ever do s7?
[11:13] <sikstyles> 7 folds?
[11:13] <sikstyles> Yes they did
[11:13] <sikstyles> And they did more than 7
[11:14] <GoulJusan> hi mith n sik n berc
[11:14] <sikstyles> But it was a very very large piece of paper
[11:14] <sikstyles> hey goulie
[11:14] <Bercon> season 7
[11:14] <Coldtoast> any of you watched Dark Knight?
[11:14] * Mithandir is just back from Wacken Open Air festival
[11:14] <Bercon> yeah
[11:14] <GoulJusan> heya coldtoast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:14] * aiablaha is now known as aia
[11:14] <Coldtoast> heya
[11:14] <GoulJusan> i love dark knight
[11:14] <sikstyles> Mithandir. :O
[11:14] <Coldtoast> it was fantastic
[11:14] <sikstyles> How was it?!
[11:14] <Coldtoast> mainly due to Heath tho
[11:14] <Mithandir> awesome
[11:14] <Bercon> Any of you who havent seen the Field Trip http://cgi.evtek.fi/~manuj/Field_T
[11:15] <sikstyles> Fuck, I wanted to be there.
[11:15] <Bercon> Yeah it was pretty good
[11:15] <Mithandir> Iron Maiden and Sonata Arctica were the best I think, though Nightwish an
[11:15] <Bercon> Joker was outstanding
[11:15] <GoulJusan> batman not too bad.. he didn't fade into the background like the rest of
[11:15] <Coldtoast> I don't get why ppl love Nightwish so much
[11:16] <Coldtoast> I can't stand the faux-operatic style of singing they use
[11:16] <sikstyles> Because it's good.
[11:16] <Coldtoast> same with all those types of bands
[11:16] <sikstyles> Kind of different.
[11:16] <Mithandir> what's faux about it? Their previous singer was a trained opera singer
[11:16] <Coldtoast> because it's not actual opera Mithandir ?
[11:16] <sikstyles> even better
[11:16] <Mithandir> that depends on your definition of opera really :)
[11:16] <GS> now that tarja went out nightwish is pretty much dead.
[11:17] <Coldtoast> I'd rather listen to somebody like Tenhi than Nightwish :)
[11:17] * Mithandir shrugs
[11:17] <Mithandir> tastes differ :)
[11:17] <Coldtoast> yeah. just personal preference really
[11:18] <GoulJusan> check out Vitas
[11:18] <Mithandir> wacken is great tho, 65000 people all singing along :P
[11:18] <Coldtoast> you only like Vitas cos you're gay and he LOOKS gay :)
[11:18] <Coldtoast> hell of a voice tho
[11:18] <GS> and wacken is in the right country too :D
[11:19] <Mithandir> driving back was fun too, loads of cars with WOA on their backs :)
[11:19] <GoulJusan> ermmm hell no i dun like how he look... have u seen how he talk outside o
[11:19] <Mithandir> most people are
[11:20] * Mithandir did ge tto know a new band at wacken: Corvus Corax (which coldtoast would proba
[11:20] <GoulJusan> furthemore i dun like groups or individuals.. i only like specific song t
[11:20] <Coldtoast> hah
[11:20] <GoulJusan> lol
[11:21] <Coldtoast> I'd like em if they were folky Mithandir
[11:21] <Coldtoast> that's why I like Tenhi so much
[11:21] <Mithandir> cold: they are semi-classical
[11:21] <Mithandir> they performed with a small orchestra of violins, traditional drums and b
[11:22] <GoulJusan> i like Oyster band
[11:22] <GS> iron maiden | run to the hills
[11:22] <GoulJusan> hehehe probably no one heard of them
[11:23] <Coldtoast> Tenhi's album Airut:aamujen is supposed to evoke feelings of the forest I
[11:23] <Mithandir> GS: yeah, they did that one :P
[11:23] <Coldtoast> Iron Maiden are amazing
[11:23] <Coldtoast> Nico looks VERY old tho. heh
[11:23] <Mithandir> Iron Maiden had an awesome show. They were doing mostly songs from the ei
[11:23] <aia> if you like finnish folk, try out Lau Nau
[11:23] <GoulJusan> o_O
[11:23] <Mithandir> cold: they all look pretty damn old, even bruce :P
[11:24] <aia> I saw Lau Nau perform with a violin stroke on a tree branch, getting proper ton
[11:24] <Anvile> eh
[11:24] <Coldtoast> I saw the DVD to Rock in Rio from about 4 years ago or so and it was feck
[11:24] <Mithandir> yeah
[11:24] <Mithandir> that was 300k people
[11:24] <Mithandir> only 655k at wacken
[11:24] <Coldtoast> if you don't look at teh screen, it's just good old Maiden
[11:24] <Mithandir> but enough to make me fear for my life when I got trampled a few times
[11:24] <GS> and wacken is just such a small town :D
[11:24] <GoulJusan> trampled?!
[11:24] <Coldtoast> Mithandir: heard of Jean Michel Jarre?
[11:25] <GS> lol
[11:25] <Coldtoast> I'm sure you have
[11:25] <GS> who hasnt?
[11:25] <GoulJusan> i never
[11:25] <Mithandir> teh popcorn guy, right?
[11:25] <GS> yep
[11:25] <GS> and oxygene etc
[11:25] <GoulJusan> heard of the guy
[11:25] <Coldtoast> in 1986, for the Nasa/Texas celeb he had 1,800,000 by 8pm
[11:25] <Coldtoast> imagien that!
[11:25] <GoulJusan> whos that?
[11:25] <Coldtoast> was a free concert tho, of course
[11:25] <Coldtoast> Jarre
[11:26] * GoulJusan scratches his head and arse
[11:26] <Coldtoast> he used to hold the Guinness record for the largest attendance at an open
[11:26] <Mithandir> GS: yeah, wacken is tiny. It was fun at the local gas station./ Complete
[11:26] <GS> iron maiden | the evil that men do
[11:26] <GS> hehe
[11:26] <GS> been there once
[11:26] <Mithandir> My second time
[11:27] <Mithandir> first time was in 2001, when they had nightwish, therion, helloween, sona
[11:27] <Mithandir> and a shitload of other bands*
[11:27] <GS> will you be there next year?
[11:27] <Mithandir> depends on who's coming
[11:27] <Mithandir> it's a 630km drive :P
[11:27] <GS> hehe
[11:28] <GoulJusan> i've never been to a free open air concert other than boney M free concer
[11:28] <Mithandir> they've had some awesome lineups lately tho
[11:28] <Mithandir> last year was great too, but they were sold out before could get tickets
[11:28] * GS votes for banning GoulJusan due to boney m show
[11:28] <GS> *attendance
[11:28] <GS> i mean.. thats a big nono
[11:29] <Coldtoast> we had this band The presets at work the other night
[11:29] <Coldtoast> was sold out 3 weeks before the show
[11:29] * GoulJusan cries
[11:29] <Coldtoast> only 800 tho
[11:29] <GoulJusan> i sorta like them
[11:29] <Mithandir> female dress styles at metal concerts with temperature of 32°C and full s
[11:29] <Coldtoast> I only like one of their songs
[11:30] <Coldtoast> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ufW2INWmM&fmt=18
[11:30] <GS> iron maiden | hallowed be thy name
[11:30] <GS> wish i had gotten tickets this year now :(
[11:30] <Mithandir> yeah they sold out in january this year
[11:30] <Mithandir> but there were loads of people selling tickets at the entrance
[11:31] <Mithandir> for 140-160 euros tho
[11:31] <GoulJusan> wow!
[11:31] <GoulJusan> how much is the original price?
[11:32] <Mithandir> 100
[11:33] <GoulJusan> oh.. wow
[11:33] <Mithandir> that's an "all-in" ticket: three days festival, camping and parking, a ra
[11:33] <Mithandir> pretty cheap really, considering it's over 70 bands
[11:33] <GoulJusan> wait... condom included? =_='
[11:34] <Mithandir> yup
[11:34] <GoulJusan> actually it is very cheap
[11:34] <GoulJusan> do we get to choose with flavour the condom comes in?
[11:34] <GoulJusan> which
[11:34] <Mithandir> yeh, a single concert of any of the bigger bands will easily cost you 20-
[11:35] <Mithandir> no, it's a black condom, forgot what flavour
[11:35] <GoulJusan> dang wish i get to watch
[11:35] <GoulJusan> black condom.. heheheh they always looked like yer penis getting cencored
[11:36] <Mithandir> you would have liked the festival ghoul, I spotted at least one guy dress
[11:36] <GoulJusan> wow
[11:36] <GoulJusan> i mean WOW!!!
[11:37] <Coldtoast> I went and watched teh X-Files movie the other night
[11:38] <GoulJusan> x-files like a tv movie but good
[11:38] <Coldtoast> wasn't expecting much and prety much got exactly that
[11:38] <GoulJusan> mith: is it always in August?
[11:39] <Mithandir> first weekend of august
[11:41] <GoulJusan> dang..
[11:41] <GoulJusan> i normall visit netherland during xmas :((
[11:42] <Mithandir> well wacken is in germany
[11:42] <GoulJusan> when it's supa cheap
[11:42] <Mithandir> it's a fairly long ride from the netherland
[11:42] <GoulJusan> kakaka
[11:42] <Mithandir> great fun tho
[11:42] <GoulJusan> oh double dang
[11:42] <Mithandir> well, it's longer from belgium :)
[11:42] <GoulJusan> maybe next time i'll go with u..
[11:42] <Mithandir> about ... 550 km from amsterdam I think?
[11:43] <GoulJusan> i just need to find a way to stay in either belgium or netherland.. know
[11:43] <Mithandir> nope, I'm happily married:)
[11:43] * Mithandir chuckles
[11:43] * GoulJusan gasp... mith is married?!
[11:44] <Mithandir> after iron maiden (final act of teh first day) while everybody was going
[11:44] <Mithandir> everybody sang along
[11:44] <GoulJusan> with little mithies running around yet?
[11:44] <Mithandir> quite surreal to have 65000 metalheads and goths sing that song :)
[11:44] <Mithandir> nahh, maybe in a few years
[11:44] <GoulJusan> =_='
[11:45] <GoulJusan> i've been slacking off from learning duth lately
[11:45] <GoulJusan> dutch
[11:45] <GoulJusan> i can only remember dag
[11:46] * Mithandir shrugs
[11:46] <Mithandir> my wife's lived here for years now and barely speaks any
[11:46] <GoulJusan> =_=
[11:46] <GoulJusan> where yer wife from?
[11:46] <Mithandir> norway
[11:46] <GoulJusan> oh.. did u guys met on WOW?
[11:47] <Mithandir> nah, on IRC
[11:47] <Mithandir> we played WOW after we got married :P
[11:47] <GoulJusan> been spotting too many couples on wow...lately i get the feeling pple do
[11:48] <GoulJusan> n strangely i kept running into husband n wife team
[11:49] <dharmaone> whats WOW? does it have hotties on there
[11:49] <Mithandir> world fo warcraft
[11:50] <GoulJusan> moth: wot server yer on?
[11:50] <Mithandir> none anymore
[11:50] <dharmaone> mmm...doesnt really sound like hot girls
[11:50] <Mithandir> I stopped playing a few months after hitting 70
[11:50] <Mithandir> too much guild drama
[11:50] <GoulJusan> lol
[11:51] <GoulJusan> dharmone: they even have warcraft porn.. real hot girls
[11:51] <Bercon> Even I haven't seen that
[11:52] <GoulJusan> one of the porn site girls hold a very high lvl on wow and someone told b
[11:53] <Mithandir> http://www.fantasycomic.com/t/pics/P8029496.jpg <--- my wife at wacke
[11:53] <Mithandir> don't tell her I showed that, she'll kill me slowly
[11:53] <GoulJusan> lol
[11:53] <GoulJusan> her corset is falling off heheehe
[11:54] <Mithandir> nah, just looks that way
[11:54] <GoulJusan> hehehe it's on me harddrive
[11:55] <GoulJusan> good way to blackmail u now
[11:55] * GoulJusan cast an Evil Grin
[11:57] <GS> shes got.. uhm.. you know... OO. huge.
[11:57] <Mithandir> tits?
[11:57] <GS> heh
[11:57] <Mithandir> yeah, impossible to find a bra for ... F-cup/G-cup about
[11:57] <GoulJusan> GS : stop drooling
[11:57] <Mithandir> also big belly, but working on that
[11:57] <GS> heh
[11:57] <GS> no need to
[11:58] <GS> gf has good equipment too ;)
[11:58] <GoulJusan> did u guys secretly feed yer gf n wife grow potion?
[11:58] <GoulJusan> growth
[11:59] <Mithandir> http://www.fantasycomic.com/t/pics/P7209278.JPG <---- she'll definate
[11:59] * GoulJusan shows the the gang Arie's proud twins
[11:59] <GS> haha
[11:59] <GoulJusan> wow!!! she definately will
[12:00] <GS> i know a fetish model with I cups :P
[12:00] <GS> yes, thats an "i".
[12:00] <GS> and shes rather thin :P
[12:00] <Mithandir> actually that pic had been in the topic of a channel she frequents for we
[12:00] <GoulJusan> isn't that las vegas porn thingie?
[12:00] <Mithandir> GS: poor girl
[12:00] <GoulJusan> 'i' size
[12:01] <Mithandir> my wife already complains about backaches from the weight
[12:01] <GS> gf too
[12:01] <GoulJusan> yeah
[12:01] <Hedon> aloha
[12:01] <GoulJusan> women with big ones tends to have back probs
[12:01] <GoulJusan> get her to reduce them
[12:01] <Hedon> ...and small feet
[12:01] <GS> and finding bras is a torture ;) either cups too small or shoulder straps too th
[12:02] <GoulJusan> heya hedon
[12:02] <timbre_> i like big tits
[12:02] <GoulJusan> tim!!
[12:02] <Bercon> I like small ones
[12:02] <Hedon> hiya GoulJusan
[12:02] <timbre_> i like small ones too
[12:02] <ichi__> anything that is more than a mouth/hand-ful is a waste .
[12:02] <GoulJusan> bercon like 'airports'
[12:02] <GoulJusan> so flat u could land a plane
[12:03] <timbre_> thats guys
[12:03] <Bercon> No need to go extremes
[12:03] <timbre_> anyone here has man boobs ?
[12:03] <Bercon> ichi__ nailed it
[12:03] <Hedon> they all get big after the kids :)
[12:03] <GoulJusan> i have manboobs hahaha
[12:03] <GS> bigger. not big per se ;)
[12:04] <GS> pregnancy wont turn A into DD or F ;)
[12:04] <Hedon> turns an A into a nice B
[12:04] <GoulJusan> or b++
[12:04] <GS> sometimes C
[12:04] <Hedon> even at 40 my wife has a great tight rack
[12:05] <GoulJusan> hedon: thanks to the Hedon massage specials?
[12:05] <Hedon> better than most 25 year olds I've seen
[12:05] <Hedon> she didn't really get boobs until after the second kid
[12:06] <GoulJusan> actually if u guys help yer wifes masssage their breasts for any reason i
[12:06] <Hedon> heh..I'll have to use that excuse
[12:06] <GoulJusan> thought only non married couples needs excuse hehe
[12:08] <GoulJusan> technically it is true that proper massage of any body part helps shape t
[12:08] <GoulJusan> ermm.. masturbation doesn't count
[12:08] <GoulJusan> so u guys dun be too happy bout it
[12:09] <aia> hmmm. longest discussion I've seen here in ages... about breasts of course :)
[12:09] <Mithandir> pft
[12:09] <GoulJusan> there are techniques for proper penis massage
[12:10] <Mithandir> we all know why female D models always have painstakingly modelled tits,
[12:10] <Mithandir> 3D models even
[12:11] <GoulJusan> wow that means most of us all are perverts?
[12:11] <Bercon> Is that something to be suprised about?
[12:11] * GoulJusan is very innocent..
[12:11] <Bercon> Why do you think there are only males here, with one exception
[12:11] <GoulJusan> :)
[12:12] <GoulJusan> arie could be a guy too even she looks female
[12:13] <GoulJusan> it's wots int the heart n soul that counts
[12:13] <Bercon> Yeah perhaps he is an old man hunting for young boys who don't know any bett
[12:13] <Bercon> Like you
[12:13] * GoulJusan runs away from Arie
[12:13] <GoulJusan> i'm innocently evil..
[12:13] <aia> hey. it's irc... everyone is twisted and perverted
[12:14] <GoulJusan> i'm just evil .. i'm not perverted
[12:14] <GoulJusan> i dun have porn on my oc
[12:14] <GoulJusan> pc
[12:15] <GoulJusan> O:)
[12:15] <Mithandir> You don't? Pervert!
[12:15] <GoulJusan> how is not having porn makes me a pervert? :D
[12:16] <Mithandir> Pervert: 1 a: to cause to turn aside or away from what is good or true or
[12:17] <GoulJusan> porn is good n morally right? o_O
[12:17] <Mithandir> 2: a perverted form; especially : an aberrant sexual practice or interest
[12:17] <Mithandir> where aberrant is different from the norm
[12:18] <GoulJusan> oh my gawd i'm a Pervert!
[12:23] <GoulJusan> hmmm.. i kept drooling over dutch cheese lately.. i crave fer them
[14:13] * colllanve is now known as ardbeer
[14:28] <GoulJusan> night all... hugs
[14:44] <GS> www.shadingandlighting.com/temp/egg.jpg
[14:56] * ardwech is now known as arbeer
[14:56] * arbeer is now known as ardbeer
[15:18] <surfer69> gs cool
[15:29] <flashed> hi
[15:39] <mbale> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMrHWNrCPIM
[15:44] <timbre_> http://theremin.hyves.nl/widget/12078125/Lydia_Kavina_plays_Claire_de_Lune/
[15:45] <flashed> its with one of those play by moving hands thing?
[15:51] <timbre_> dunno
[15:51] <timbre_> its not the one with Ross dating the weird girl
[15:51] <timbre_> that i know
[16:06] <GS> www.shadingandlighting.com/temp/egg3.jpg
[16:07] <Anvile> cool gs
[16:07] <GS> vacationvile :D
[16:07] <Anvile> :P
[16:07] <Anvile> is that actual geometry in there?
[16:07] <GS> yep
[16:07] <GS> little maggot geometry :D
[16:07] <Anvile> tasty :P
[16:07] <Anvile> maybe you can combine that with the turd shader in some way :p
[16:08] <GS> haha
[16:09] <Refracted> turd eggs maybe?
[16:10] <Anvile> hm
[16:14] <GS> www.shadingandlighting.com/temp/egg4.jpg
[16:15] <GS> a little more color :)
[16:33] <GS> www.shadingandlighting.com/temp/egg5.jpg
[16:57] <Anvile> i like
[18:18] <GS> www.shadingandlighting.com trying to finally finish my website :P
[18:19] <ichi__> shiny
[18:28] * fukchi is now known as chai
[18:45] * Anvile is now known as Awayvile
[23:24] <Bercon-> Reply from kees concerning making of custom controls for max
[23:24] <Bercon-> "Just about all of it is completely undocumented.
[23:24] <Bercon-> There are a bunch of maxscript MACROs you have to call to send thigns back
[23:24] <Bercon-> Exactly what I wanted to hear ... >.<
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[23:45] * Topic is 'NO WAREZ | http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=6&t=650333 < Bercon
[23:45] * Set by flashed!~me@a83-132-153-243.cpe.netcabo.pt on Sun Jul 27 23:43:38
[23:45] -mrHelpman- Hello and welcome to #3dsmax. This is a NO WAREZ channel, please do NOT ask us
[23:49] <Bercon-> http://www.mindusion.com/forums/index.php/topic,75.0.html
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