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Session Start: Thu May 18 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:10] <timbre> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown#The_beginning_of_Jonestown
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[02:29] <WotGorila> murning
[02:30] <artisanWE> m33p m33p
[02:30] <artisanWE> hi all
[02:30] <artisanWE> ny1 using here amd technology ?
[02:30] <artisanWE> ny1 any1 :)
[02:31] <WotGorila> not yet
[02:31] <WotGorila> was just talking about that yesterday
[02:31] <artisanWE> wot :)
[02:31] <artisanWE> ic i have a question about 2 amd
[02:31] <artisanWE> dont no whats the diference is
[02:31] <artisanWE> between AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 FX-60 and amd 4800
[02:32] <artisanWE> the only diference between i c is the price
[02:32] <artisanWE> AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 FX-60 is about 1000 us dollar
[02:32] <artisanWE> but AMD 4800 is about 600 us dollar
[02:33] <artisanWE> i would relly know if there also speed diferenece between this 2 CPU
[02:33] <FrDrebin> Between 32 and 64 bits ?
[02:33] <artisanWE> it is bot 64 bit
[02:34] <FrDrebin> ok
[02:34] <artisanWE> Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (Energy Efficient*)
[02:34] <artisanWE> AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 FX-60
[02:34] <WotGorila> not sure, haven't looked into those
[02:35] <FrDrebin> You do not have so much differences to look at: clock, cache, and then ? P
[02:35] <artisanWE> yeah me too
[02:35] <WotGorila> thinking about going with 2 AMD Opteron 275 2.2GHz Dual-Core
[02:35] <artisanWE> the price is diference
[02:36] <FrDrebin> yes I think too
[02:36] <artisanWE> 400 dollar more for the fx one
[02:36] <artisanWE> but what would be good to buy
[02:37] <artisanWE> wot: but what MB would u by for the obteron
[02:38] <artisanWE> i chose MB : A8N32-SLI DELUXE with a AMD 64 X2 4800+
[02:39] <FrDrebin> Does AMD became better than Intel ?
[02:40] <artisanWE> not much better but faster on render
[02:40] <FrDrebin> hmmmm
[02:40] <artisanWE> the performance on the screen is the same
[02:40] <FrDrebin> and cheaper
[02:41] <WotGorila> Just going with another HP workstation
[02:41] <artisanWE> yep
[02:41] <artisanWE> wot :) i hate HP
[02:41] <artisanWE> i got better performance with othere com's
[02:42] <WotGorila> I hate their desktops, but their Workstations are great, Lucas Studios ju
[02:42] <artisanWE> ic
[02:42] <WotGorila> I got my HP xw8200 last year, not one crash yet
[02:42] <artisanWE> ur lucky then :)
[02:43] <artisanWE> i got on the work some hp compaq
[02:43] <artisanWE> and i am not really happy with it
[02:44] <WotGorila> nahh, I'm not really happy with the HP laptops we have either
[02:44] <artisanWE> so i think this would be a good solution with > MB : A8N32-SLI DELUXE
[02:46] <WotGorila> I haven't made up my mind if I'll spend the extra buck and go for Dual co
[02:46] <artisanWE> yeah but u dont have the option for sli on xeon i think
[02:47] <WotGorila> I just need a machine to get me thru the summer, I've been sorta holding
[02:47] <artisanWE> :)
[02:47] <artisanWE> which sli board would be good any idee
[02:52] <LordCreep> art
[02:52] <LordCreep> 939?
[02:52] <artisanWE> lord
[02:52] <artisanWE> 939 :)
[02:52] <LordCreep> I use the DFI Lanparty SLI-DR
[02:52] <LordCreep> Great board
[02:52] <artisanWE> do u have url for it ?
[02:53] <artisanWE> is it nvidia to
[02:56] <LordCreep> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136157
[02:57] <artisanWE> thx :)
[02:57] <LordCreep> np
[03:13] <g|s|S> tadaaa
[03:14] <g|s|S> praise me, lower lifeforms!
[03:32] * LordCreep throws baboon feces in g|s's general direction
[03:35] <g|s|S> heh
[03:35] <g|s|S> [dont feed the LordCreeps]
[03:36] <WotGorila> Praise be G/S
[03:37] <WotGorila> ;)
[03:38] <g|s|S> heh
[03:42] <LordCreep> No food?
[03:42] <LordCreep> In that case
[03:42] * LordCreep throws master feces at G|S
[03:42] <g|s|S> hehe
[03:43] <g|s|S> sperm flavored feces, mhmmmm :]
[03:44] <LordCreep> lol
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[04:21] * WHiTEB0X - the crashes... the crashed.. :/
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[05:04] * Topic is 'NO WAREZ | NO THEFT | "Winners don't do drugs"'
[05:04] * Set by sinn!sinn@5354EC16.cable.casema.nl on Mon May 15 12:23:16
[05:04] -mrHelpman- Hello and welcome to #3dsmax. This is a NO WAREZ channel, please do NOT ask us
[05:57] <SteveInsy> Good morning guys
[05:58] <SteveInsy> I've got a question for you about link constraints. I have two objects. #
[05:58] <SteveInsy> has anyone else had this problem?
[06:22] <AceOvArtx> try making the frame before you link #1 to 2 the link to the world
[06:22] <AceOvArtx> rather than 0
[06:30] <AceOvArtx> Ive had this before, its might be a bug actually...cant seem to recreate
[06:53] <Piccy> anyone know of any -good- documentation for backburner?
[07:10] <vader_wrk> Piccy look at disceet.com - theres some good info
[07:11] <vader_wrk> erhm autodesk.com
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[07:46] <SteveInsy> lemme try ace!
[07:49] <SteveInsy> bah that didnt work :\
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[08:51] <BruiZar> hello all
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[10:33] <timbre_> Autodesk, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADSK - News) announced today that Maksym Vysochansk
[10:33] <g|s|S> for?
[10:34] <lBox> uf another ukraine citizen, :o(
[10:39] <Tranq|Wrk> he was copyin n' sellin all kinda of graphics software
[10:39] <Tranq|Wrk> not just autodesk stuff, adobe and microsoft stuff too
[10:39] <Tranq|Wrk> online mail order stuff
[10:40] <lBox> nothing special and new
[10:40] <lBox> as usual
[11:06] <Tranq|Wrk> hmm i have a rubber container, say for example its a balloon.. I need to
[11:06] <Tranq|Wrk> I am thinkin maybe making it a cloth simulation, animating it from an inf
[11:07] <WotGorila> When I make the Balloons for stents for Angioplasty animations I use a mo
[11:09] <WotGorila> morpher
[11:10] <Tranq|Wrk> so ya think i should just soft-select modify my object and morph between
[11:11] <WotGorila> probably use cloth to make it into the deflate state and convert to mesh
[11:11] <WotGorila> make it easier to animate and change
[11:12] <Tranq|Wrk> yea, good plan, using morph will let me change bits of the cloth sim as w
[11:12] <WotGorila> yeah
[11:14] <WotGorila> I should have done my ship with morphs
[11:15] <WotGorila> next one
[11:15] <WotGorila> :)
[11:16] <WotGorila> they just commisioned me to do a ton more animations for another document
[11:17] <Tranq|Wrk> right on
[11:17] <Tranq|Wrk> lots of work for ya
[11:17] <Tranq|Wrk> lots more frustrating glitches to work through too no doubt hehe
[11:17] <WotGorila> All these networks are all betting Pirates of the Carrbiean will be big s
[11:17] <WotGorila> yeah
[11:18] <WotGorila> will generate some nice funding for the group hopefully to bring up rest
[11:19] <WotGorila> plus I can use some the the stuff for my own documentary
[11:21] <Tranq|Wrk> when i get home tonight i have to start workin on a final render material
[11:22] <Tranq|Wrk> darker blues w/ white frosted look along the surface
[11:22] <WotGorila> :) that will be neat
[11:23] <Tranq|Wrk> ive made some sample materials in zbrush that give off a similar effect,
[11:25] <WotGorila> http://www.holidaycityflash.com/article%20pix/frostbite.jpg
[11:26] <WotGorila> ouch
[11:26] <g|s|S> haha
[11:26] <Tranq|Wrk> u ever used paralelle blend?
[11:26] <Tranq|Wrk> now thats disgusting hehe
[11:26] <WotGorila> yeah
[11:27] <Tranq|Wrk> i dont want to have a gross factor so i wont be doin the puffy pussy blac
[11:27] <WotGorila> heh
[11:27] <Tranq|Wrk> so I can use the blend to blend the charactaristics of one mesh , into an
[11:29] <Tranq|Wrk> the rigged mesh is the low poly ver of my zbrush sculpted model, my lvl
[11:45] <WotGorila> You would have to make both characters from the same mesh
[11:45] <mcarp> makes you wanna go 'what good is it'
[11:45] <Tranq|Wrk> yes, essentially what i have done is made the low poly mesh ( about 5600
[11:45] <Tranq|Wrk> rigged it up
[11:46] <Tranq|Wrk> then i exported the model as obj, and performed sub'd's up to 4.3million
[11:46] <Tranq|Wrk> sculpted the model
[11:46] <Tranq|Wrk> i then export the lvl 1 sub-d , which is same poly count, same vertex ord
[11:47] <Tranq|Wrk> when i bring it back into max, i should be able to blend that obj's new g
[11:47] <Tranq|Wrk> as i understand it, as long as no new faces or verteces are added and the
[11:48] <Tranq|Wrk> then the render time displacement will assign to the rigged character as
[11:48] <mcarp> so does it work?
[11:49] <Tranq|Wrk> i dont know yet gotta wait till i get home b4 i can try
[11:49] <Tranq|Wrk> i finished the zbrush portions last night b4 i went to sleep
[11:49] <mcarp> im heavily skeptical
[11:49] <Tranq|Wrk> i will let ya know how it plays out in a few hours
[11:50] <Tranq|Wrk> does the parallel blend work on the same rules as morphs?
[11:50] <mcarp> i'm guessing yer gunna have to hand adjust a shitload of verts that dont quit
[11:50] <mcarp> dunno
[11:50] <Tranq|Wrk> yes , ive never used blend so i cant say for sure how closely it will ada
[11:50] <mcarp> i would guess a lot of areas will work out
[11:51] <mcarp> if you have very tightly patterned envelopes
[11:51] <Tranq|Wrk> its still applying the displacement according to UV's so at the very leas
[11:51] <Tranq|Wrk> yea i spent a long time rigging this character, its envelopes are likely
[11:51] <mcarp> i am going to guess that the problems will occur at the envelope joints as us
[11:52] <Ta|isman> envelopes .. welcome to the 90's ;)
[11:52] <mcarp> *shrug*
[11:52] <Tranq|Wrk> hmm i wonder if zbrush will work through remote desktop
[11:52] <mcarp> lol
[11:53] <Tranq|Wrk> testing hehe
[11:53] <mcarp> real time graphics + remote desktop == bad
[11:54] <Tranqui|> im loadin it now hehe
[11:55] <Tranq|Wrk> lol nope
[11:56] <Tranq|Wrk> about 30 Direct3d errors popped up and 1 ogl error now remote desktop won
[11:56] <mcarp> lol
[11:57] <Eagle_265> ultra vnc
[11:57] <Eagle_265> works like a charm
[11:58] <Eagle_265> if you have a good connection
[11:58] <Eagle_265> no graphical probs as far as I've experienced, lots of lag - yes
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[12:04] <Tranq|Wrk> i got 10mbit both ways
[12:05] <Tranq|Wrk> so that may work, is it free?
[12:06] <mcarp> the old vnc was
[12:07] <mcarp> i think if you get ultra-vnc in place, it'll still be only a novelty
[12:28] <Tranq|Wrk> yea well thats why i asked if it was free, i am not gonna pay for a remot
[12:29] <sik-style> What's wrong bumble-bee?
[12:29] <sik-style> Your stinger broke?
[12:35] <panicb> tranq tightvnc is free
[12:36] <panicb> screen update isn't really fast enough imo to do it even over network
[12:37] <mcarp> i dont care what you get. its not gunna be fantastic ever. wait a few decad
[12:56] <V06-TECH> hey whats up, im having some trouble, when ever I zoom in to get close to
[12:56] <V06-TECH> how do i fix this
[12:56] <V06-TECH> I need to get closer to see what im doing
[12:56] <mcarp> you need to enlarge the scale
[12:56] <V06-TECH> how
[12:57] <g|s|S> you used a target cam.
[12:57] <sik-style> Hey, mcarp.
[12:57] <V06-TECH> how do I enlarge the scale
[12:57] <mcarp> hye sik
[12:58] <mcarp> are you using the same system unit setup as the tutorial?
[12:58] <V06-TECH> hmm, dont know what that is, im kinda a noob at 3ds max
[12:59] <sik-style> System unit as in, do you see inches or cm behind numbers that alter the
[12:59] <mcarp> you might need to do a 'using max' tutorial
[13:00] <mcarp> but its on the top row, a square with an inset square button
[13:00] <sik-style> Also V06-TECH, press F1 and search anything that relates to your problem.
[13:01] <V06-TECH> oh ya, im using the same system unit scale, cause im importing halo 2 char
[13:01] <V06-TECH> my help links never work, nothing seems to ever show up
[13:01] <V06-TECH> but ya
[13:01] <V06-TECH> adn I have another problem, i need to weld some vertices together, how but
[13:01] <V06-TECH> do i have to like hold down a key?
[13:01] <mcarp> turn on the 'ignore backface' tickbox
[13:02] <mcarp> you may need to turn that on/off as needed
[13:02] <V06-TECH> wheres that
[13:02] <mcarp> its in the vert edit geometry rollout
[13:02] <sik-style> Damnit mcarp always beats me to the answer. :P
[13:03] <sik-style> Oh well.
[13:03] <mcarp> selection sorry
[13:03] <mcarp> not geometry
[13:03] <mcarp> see the panels in the rollout, selection, soft selection, edit geometry etc
[13:04] <mcarp> look in selection below the red icons
[13:04] <V06-TECH> ahh found it
[13:04] <mcarp> also, you may need to rotate to a different view
[13:05] <mcarp> selecting can be an art in itself
[13:05] <V06-TECH> ok, well it would be easier if I could get closer, do u have AIM or MSN so
[13:05] <mcarp> i know what you mean
[13:06] <mcarp> been there
[13:06] <V06-TECH> well then, u said inlardgeing the scale will fix it
[13:06] <V06-TECH> how do I do that
[13:06] <V06-TECH> inlargeing*
[13:06] <mcarp> look at the icons at the top of the scren
[13:06] <mcarp> hover yer mouse over each of them til one says select and uniform scale
[13:06] <mcarp> push that
[13:06] <mcarp> tug on the transform gizmo to scale the object
[13:07] <V06-TECH> I dont get that last line u posted
[13:07] <V06-TECH> tug on the...
[13:08] <mcarp> the transform gizmo is the red/green/blue axis pointer thingy that you see wh
[13:08] <V06-TECH> oh ok, is this just changing the wya I see the object, or the object's acu
[13:09] <mcarp> actual size
[13:09] <mcarp> which may not be what you want
[13:09] <mcarp> however
[13:09] <V06-TECH> I can put it back to normal right
[13:09] <mcarp> you can only zoom in so far before it clips
[13:09] <mcarp> if you remember how much you scaled it
[13:09] <V06-TECH> but in the tut, the guy is doing it perfectly
[13:09] <V06-TECH> I dont think he scaled it
[13:09] <mcarp> well, i dont know w hether or not you may have missed a step
[13:10] <V06-TECH> IDK, ill mess around, thanx
[13:10] <mcarp> but i can tell you that if an object is very small you cant zoom in b4 it cli
[13:10] <sik-style> Are you and the guy in the tut using the same max version?
[13:10] <sik-style> Just go over each step and read carefully.
[13:11] <mcarp> the tut may even have missing info
[13:11] <mcarp> like how to setup display and system units
[13:11] <mcarp> we can only guess at this point
[13:11] <V06-TECH> yes we are both using 3ds max 7
[13:11] <V06-TECH> no, it just doesnt state everything perfectly, as if he knows I know how t
[13:12] <mcarp> like for all we know he's using meters and you are using meters but he's usin
[13:12] <mcarp> we just cant guess
[13:12] <Tranq|Wrk> amen bruthah
[13:12] <V06-TECH> have any of you ever made a halo 2 character in 3ds max, from mainmenu.map
[13:13] <Tranq|Wrk> uhm halo 2 sux big nuts, so uhmm no
[13:13] <mcarp> i doubt it
[13:13] <V06-TECH> cause, its really damn hard, when im a beggineer at modding, and since im
[13:13] <V06-TECH> i only play halo 2 for movies
[13:13] <V06-TECH> i make halo 2 machinima
[13:13] <V06-TECH> thats why I modded
[13:14] <sik-style> V06-TECH, don't take large bites at first.
[13:14] <sik-style> Do some basic modelling.
[13:14] <sik-style> See what everything does first.
[13:14] <V06-TECH> yes, but this isnt really modeling, im jsut importing obj models I extract
[13:14] <ghib[2d]> subdivide a cube. that should keep you occupied for at least oh... 30 seco
[13:14] <sik-style> May take a while but it'll be well worth it in the end.
[13:14] <mcarp> yeah i hate to say that you need to know max pretty good to use it
[13:15] <V06-TECH> it may take me 30 secs to figure out what suddivide means
[13:15] <sik-style> If your first language is not english (like me) use google to define the
[13:15] <V06-TECH> I know, i used to use CAD, it was pretty simaler, then ive had max for a w
[13:15] <Tranq|Wrk> damn u non english people lol hehe j/k
[13:15] <sik-style> Use F1 in max to search for the words you don't understand and it'll expl
[13:16] <Tranq|Wrk> google is the best friend of the world
[13:16] <Tranq|Wrk> dont ever forget it
[13:16] <Tranq|Wrk> google owns us all
[13:16] <sik-style> Indeed.
[13:16] <V06-TECH> I already said, my help links dont work
[13:16] <V06-TECH> acually Ebay does
[13:16] <V06-TECH> Ebay own google
[13:16] <V06-TECH> peace
[13:16] <mcarp> lol
[13:17] <mcarp> bailed!
[13:19] <V06-TECH> yes, im back
[13:19] <V06-TECH> yo mcarp
[13:19] <V06-TECH> whats ur AIM or MSN, i need to show and ask u something
[13:19] <V06-TECH> PM me with it
[13:20] <mcarp> i chat on irc sir
[13:20] <V06-TECH> how do I send u a file
[13:21] <mcarp> if you want to show screen shots use yer web site or a paste bin
[13:21] <V06-TECH> oh ya
[13:21] <V06-TECH> ok, hold on
[13:22] <ghib[2d]> hah those guys at pixelogic must be crapping their pants
[13:23] <sik-style> http://www.ipspotting.com/
[13:23] <sik-style> My score - 23. :p
[13:23] <NiteLite> Score: 1
[13:24] <sik-style> V06-TECH, you can right click mcarp's name and select DCC then send, look
[13:24] <sik-style> My IP as a poker hand is two pair. :p
[13:24] <mcarp> doubt it
[13:24] <mcarp> i rarely can receive dcc
[13:25] <sik-style> Where are you located mcarp, if you don't mind me asking again?
[13:26] <V06-TECH> mcarp, check ur PM
[13:28] <V06-TECH> just answer in the PM and ill be back later
[13:39] <mcarp> tsk tsk
[13:43] <Tranq|Wrk> lol
[13:51] <DocHolidy> .
[13:53] <ghib[2d]> o
[13:53] <ghib[2d]> docadoodledoo
[13:53] <ghib[2d]> how's ye diddlin
[13:55] <DocHolidy> heya ghib :)
[13:55] <DocHolidy> chin above water brother...... you?
[13:55] <ghib[2d]> yeh. just about. i've had a bad week . lack of motivation. fed up with wor
[13:56] <DocHolidy> ahhhh *sigh* I know ur pain bro
[13:56] <ghib[2d]> i've only been working on this project about a year. i can only imagine ho
[13:58] <g|s|S> *yawn*
[13:59] <ghib[2d]> oh i'm sorry. am i boring you
[13:59] <ghib[2d]> :p
[13:59] <g|s|S> heh :]
[13:59] <g|s|S> so you're not the guy i'll hire for my 5 years production time blockbuster mo
[14:00] <ghib[2d]> no way
[14:02] <ghib[2d]> was wathing the extras for Kong. the guys at weta knock up some maquettes
[14:04] <joc`> Always annoying to come back to something
[14:04] <DocHolidy> gabe :) joc :)
[14:04] <sik-style> Omg I hate this computer!
[14:05] <sik-style> Doing a chain and I have 20 links and already max is slow.
[14:05] <sik-style> >:|
[14:05] <joc`> dear god jeesus tis doc
[14:05] <joc`> How are you sir
[14:05] <joc`> did you get married in the end?
[14:05] <ghib[2d]> sik style. make them low poly 1st then subdivide at render time
[14:05] <g|s|S> woot
[14:05] <g|s|S> yeah, how about the marriage thing?
[14:06] <sik-style> How to make them low poly?
[14:06] <joc`> use less poys :/
[14:06] <ghib[2d]> harhar
[14:06] <joc`> polys even
[14:06] <joc`> Renderable splines?
[14:06] <ghib[2d]> sorry. didn't mean to laugh. twas mean
[14:06] <DocHolidy> hehehe..... not married yet...... soon :)
[14:06] <joc`> crazy bastard
[14:06] <joc`> how's the chick?
[14:06] <DocHolidy> good good..... I'll show ya a pic
[14:07] <ghib[2d]> ooh. is she seksy?
[14:07] <joc`> make sure to blur out the rood bits
[14:08] <DocHolidy> http://myspace-772.vo.llnwd.net/00723/27/74/723734772_l.jpg
[14:08] <panicb> blur out? I'd want a magnification and sharpen filter
[14:08] <DocHolidy> and a really cute one of just brandie http://myspace-306.vo.llnwd.net/007
[14:08] <DocHolidy> hehehe pb
[14:08] <joc`> you two are great fun at airports
[14:09] <DocHolidy> lol yeah
[14:09] <panicb> cute girl doc =)
[14:09] <joc`> yeha indeed - well done sir
[14:09] <DocHolidy> take this plane to iraq or I'll pierce somebody!
[14:09] <DocHolidy> tonka brutha
[14:09] <joc`> you two met on new years wasnt it?
[14:09] <joc`> or around xmas
[14:09] <DocHolidy> x-mas eve (very close)
[14:09] <DocHolidy> *nod*
[14:10] <joc`> yesh
[14:10] <DocHolidy> then engaged on her BD jan 5th
[14:10] <joc`> yeah that was a bit of a crazy one
[14:10] <joc`> All still good - havent killed each other yet?
[14:11] <DocHolidy> *nod*
[14:11] <joc`> crackin
[14:11] <DocHolidy> all is well...... what ya been up 2?
[14:11] <DocHolidy> crap brb
[14:11] <joc`> kk
[14:12] <joc`> brb? Betcha she snook up on him and stuck her hand down his pants
[14:13] <sik-style> He wouldn't have used the term "crap" then.
[14:13] <joc`> unless she's been there a while and he just bought a new keyboard
[14:14] <sik-style> I still don't see why would he say crap..
[14:18] <SINN> hello
[14:18] <SINN> !seen suurland
[14:18] <joc`> aloha
[14:18] <mrHelpman> suurland (suurland@0x50a40a7d.arcnxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen q
[14:18] <SINN> anyone works with CAD models?
[14:18] <SINN> cad applications
[14:18] <SINN> solids
[14:18] <SINN> ?
[14:19] <joc`> sometimes - mainly iges stuff
[14:19] <SINN> where you use iges in?
[14:19] <joc`> take it from pro e mainly into max
[14:20] <joc`> mainly industrial designers sending files for vis
[14:20] <SINN> iges directly in max?
[14:20] <joc`> imported as polys
[14:20] <SINN> but you cant import "as"
[14:20] <SINN> well. I mean
[14:21] <joc`> yeah indeed
[14:21] <SINN> it will auto try to convert to polies right?
[14:21] <SINN> in Maya it opens as nurbs surfaces
[14:21] <g|s|S> max opens IGES as NURBS too
[14:21] <SINN> ah yeah true
[14:21] <joc`> Itll try and stay as nurbs but the max nurbs libs dont support a lot of operat
[14:21] <SINN> g|s|S ;)
[14:21] <SINN> joc` exactly
[14:22] <SINN> so how to handle those files?
[14:22] <SINN> g|s|S if a client sents you iges sucky files
[14:22] <joc`> tbh sinn I don't like the data I get from them
[14:22] <SINN> what you do?
[14:22] <joc`> most of the time I'll ask them to export the files to an stl or wavefront obj
[14:22] <SINN> hmm yeah
[14:22] <g|s|S> drive to them and beat them with a long wooden stick with nails
[14:23] <joc`> so I can get a better idea what the object would have looked like with all of
[14:23] <SINN> obj yea
[14:23] <SINN> thats what I was thinking
[14:23] <joc`> and then possibnly remodel depending on the use
[14:23] <SINN> well, remodelling it is kinda silly
[14:23] <joc`> True - it depends on how complex
[14:23] <SINN> I mean, there is a whole model, right there..
[14:23] <SINN> imagine remodelling a whole car?
[14:24] <joc`> There's the possibility that the mesh you get from pro e will be quite badly l
[14:24] <joc`> so you may never get a clean render from it
[14:24] <SINN> yeah, flipped elements
[14:25] <joc`> not even that - the surface may just be a little messy
[14:25] <SINN> the sucky thing is that I get lots of little surfaces
[14:25] <joc`> sure yeah
[14:27] <joc`> A different object for each of the fillets on what should be one part
[14:28] <SINN> yes
[14:28] <SINN> it makes sense I know
[14:28] <SINN> but still it sucks
[14:28] <SINN> hehe
[14:28] <joc`> yeah indeed
[14:28] <joc`> I'd go back to the company you got the model from and get them to re export it
[14:28] <joc`> or possibly invest in rhino / power importers if you do a load of this stuff
[14:29] <SINN> yeah, thought of that too
[14:29] <SINN> takes me 4 days to clean the model
[14:29] <SINN> and actually remodel it
[14:29] <SINN> so I want this to be one day
[14:32] <joc`> Well, suurland does a tonne of this stuff and he started using rhino so he cou
[14:33] <joc`> but that said hes started remodelling a lot of it
[14:33] <SINN> yeah
[14:33] <SINN> well you convinced me
[14:33] <joc`> It may be as cheap as power importer and power nurbs combined
[14:34] <joc`> and gives you the option of a really good solid modeller too - better than fuc
[14:34] <SINN> power importer?
[14:34] <SINN> how much is rhino?
[14:34] <joc`> there's a company called npower software
[14:34] <SINN> ah yeah
[14:35] <joc`> rhino is I think around $500
[14:35] <SINN> I thought of that plugin too
[14:35] <SINN> you cant render in rhino right?
[14:35] <SINN> ah well, what does it matter tho
[14:35] <joc`> yeah indeed - they do boolean, import and nurbs
[14:35] <SINN> yeah I seen that tutorial about the camera
[14:35] <joc`> you can buy vray for rhino and its also got a very nice renderer called flamin
[14:35] <SINN> I downloaded a tryout.
[14:35] <SINN> its cool, but the mesh isnt that clean, but renders fine
[14:36] <joc`> yeah - tbh I reckon nurbs layout is always a tad shit but as you say it comes
[14:36] <panicb> ok I have a question for you guys. Do you feel any kind of model can be crea
[14:36] <joc`> yes
[14:37] <joc`> in some cases its nt the smarters way to do it but its such a dumb, basic tech
[14:37] <SINN> panicb yes
[14:38] <SINN> joc` , so remodelling using rhino nurbs using the iges nurbs would be fantasti
[14:38] <SINN> hmm..
[14:38] <SINN> iges nurb file I mean
[14:39] <SINN> what about step files?
[14:39] <joc`> step is another mesh file afaik
[14:39] <joc`> dont quote me on that though
[14:39] <joc`> Sinn if you have rhino you dont need to remodel, the iges will be the exact sa
[14:39] <SINN> it contains nurbs
[14:40] <SINN> hmm
[14:40] <SINN> but...
[14:40] <SINN> exporting to max?
[14:40] <joc`> the only benefit is you get control over the cleanup phase before a mesh is pa
[14:40] <joc`> who wont understand topology
[14:40] <joc`> or see the little holes you get
[14:41] <joc`> it may cut out a lot of your own clean up
[14:41] <SINN> ah ok
[14:41] <SINN> hmm I see
[14:42] <SINN> so rhino for just managing the file
[14:42] <SINN> I will test this
[14:42] <SINN> I worked with rhino like 6 years ago :/
[14:42] <SINN> I think..
[14:42] <SINN> how old is it anyway?
[14:43] <gkmotu> i think a rhino can get around 30-40 years..then they die
[14:43] <gkmotu> not sure though
[14:43] <SINN> seriously?
[14:43] * gkmotu googles
[14:43] <SINN> interesting
[14:43] <SINN> parrots are cool
[14:43] <joc`> around 97 / 98 I think
[14:43] <joc`> cant find my manual
[14:44] <gkmotu> The oldest rhinoceros in Europe, a 39-year-old named Susi, was put to sleep
[14:44] <joc`> :/
[14:44] <SINN> damn
[14:44] <SINN> what a waste
[14:44] <g|s|S> all the meat
[14:44] <SINN> what about hippos?
[14:46] <SINN> anyway.
[14:46] <gkmotu> The world's oldest hippo, 61, a female by the name of Tangar
[14:46] <SINN> Rhino to load in the iges, make it ready (clean up) to export to max
[14:46] <SINN> for rendering
[14:46] <SINN> ah I knew it
[14:47] <SINN> joc` thanks for your info ;)
[14:47] <joc`> nay bother sinn
[14:47] <lamefif> how can i update my mtl library?
[14:47] <SINN> lamefif save as
[14:47] <joc`> Save your own materials to it or download new ones
[14:48] <SINN> actually joc` I already thought of this workflow a bit
[14:48] <SINN> but have to test it
[14:48] <joc`> yeah indeed
[14:48] <SINN> but theres no automated process right?
[14:48] <joc`> might be worth going over an old project
[14:48] <joc`> not that I know of
[14:49] <joc`> the mesh is so subjective and you set export options on a per object basis
[14:49] <joc`> but it'll be a case of familiarity after the third time doing it
[14:49] <SINN> what I've seen is that the UV lay outs of the nurbs are totally not following
[14:50] <SINN> would this be a export error , or is this how pro engineer exports?
[14:50] <joc`> it's an export problem
[14:50] <joc`> rhino definitely has control over it
[14:51] <SINN> ah cool
[14:51] <SINN> ok im gonna ditch max then :p
[14:52] <joc`> I'm gonna become an organic mango farmer - fuck all this effects lark
[14:52] <SINN> nice
[14:52] <SINN> well I think I want that too
[14:53] <SINN> Rhino.....
[14:53] <SINN> :)
[14:53] <SINN> I liked it at first
[14:53] <SINN> but I bet its much better now
[14:55] <joc`> I haven't used nurbs in about 5 years now and I really miss the toolset for so
[14:56] <SINN> yeah
[14:57] <SINN> too bad max nurbs suck
[14:57] <SINN> trim/fillets/failure
[14:57] <joc`> I've doone maybe 20 phone models in the past few years and some "simple" shape
[14:57] <joc`> yeah they seem to fall apart after a few ops
[14:58] <AceOvArts> its never as accurate but subds work fine for me
[14:59] <SINN> well I can do it with polies
[14:59] <SINN> but still its so damn unlogic
[14:59] <SINN> takes much more time
[14:59] <joc`> yeah indeed ace - you can do anything with them but say a slightly curved surf
[14:59] <AceOvArts> yes it is if youre using a full schematic of the object to create it
[14:59] <joc`> as sinn said nurbs are so much more logical in some cases
[15:00] <SINN> they are
[15:00] <AceOvArts> yup
[15:00] <AceOvArts> I agree
[15:00] <joc`> Must look at powernurbs some stage soon
[15:00] <AceOvArts> its why they use nurbs still to model cars
[15:00] <joc`> yeah indeed
[15:00] <joc`> Mmmmm.....trims
[15:00] <AceOvArts> max and nurbs just never worked
[15:00] <SINN> yeah totally
[15:00] <SINN> max and nurbs.. is not a way to learn nurbs
[15:01] <joc`> Yea ace - just another line of text in the pr spiel
[15:01] <SINN> it only makes it more difficult
[15:01] <panicb> only modeling i've done is in lightwave
[15:01] <AceOvArts> it was programmed as an afterthoought
[15:01] <gkmotu> powernurbs are very nice
[15:01] <SINN> actually I dont like any of the modelling in max haha
[15:01] <SINN> everything lacks something
[15:01] <gkmotu> reverse engienering works great
[15:01] <SINN> but with loads of plugins its ok
[15:02] <AceOvArts> I get by with subds....but Im tired of Max bullshit
[15:02] <SINN> AceOvArts subds are awesome :)
[15:02] <SINN> I cant believe max dont have it
[15:02] <joc`> I'm just glad when I reinstalled my machine I could shift drag edges with no c
[15:02] <AceOvArts> saw an amazing facial rigging system for XSI
[15:02] <joc`> robot?
[15:02] <AceOvArts> yea
[15:02] <AceOvArts> its a step up aint it
[15:02] <gkmotu> speaking of npowersoftware...they asked me if i wanted to have some of my mu
[15:03] <AceOvArts> npower is good
[15:03] <gkmotu> yes
[15:03] <AceOvArts> for the limited time i used powernubs
[15:03] <joc`> I'm not sold tbh ace
[15:04] <joc`> It's good alright but it's pretty heavy
[15:04] <AceOvArts> its better than any max tool...which is useful
[15:04] <AceOvArts> yea heavy
[15:04] <joc`> yeah indeed
[15:04] <SINN> max sucks
[15:04] <SINN> cmon face it
[15:04] <SINN> well we all faced it
[15:04] <AceOvArts> I only used it to convert catia data
[15:04] <joc`> Yup but it sucks less than a lot of others
[15:05] <g|s|S> C4D for instance
[15:05] <SINN> c4d.. ouch
[15:05] <g|s|S> or bryce
[15:05] <SINN> poser
[15:05] <joc`> ooch
[15:05] <AceOvArts> lol
[15:05] <SINN> terragen.. o wait thast actually good
[15:05] <joc`> raydream studio
[15:05] <SINN> coreldream 3d
[15:05] <SINN> xara3d !
[15:05] <g|s|S> ulead cool 3d :P
[15:05] <joc`> yick - was just thinking that
[15:05] <joc`> gah
[15:05] <gkmotu> surprise motions 1.0
[15:06] <SINN> hehe
[15:06] <SINN> all the fabulous packages
[15:06] <g|s|S> whole abomination software gallery
[15:06] <AceOvArts> mudbox is generating alot of hype
[15:06] <g|s|S> yep
[15:06] <AceOvArts> anyone seen it ?
[15:06] <g|s|S> nope
[15:06] <joc`> Nay
[15:06] <joc`> Still havent used zbrush yet
[15:06] <AceOvArts> trying to get beta
[15:07] <AceOvArts> zbrush is goood...I aint used it either htough....looked at it
[15:07] <g|s|S> thought its inhouse-secret-show-anybody-and-we'll-cut-off-your-johnson-mr-leb
[15:07] <AceOvArts> briefly
[15:07] <SINN> zbrush concept is nice
[15:07] <AceOvArts> the site is calling for beta testers...I dunno
[15:07] <SINN> ui is not
[15:07] <joc`> gonna use it for some character stuff outside of work - if I ever get the time
[15:07] <AceOvArts> yea...ui is sucky
[15:08] <gkmotu> it about habbits..
[15:08] <AceOvArts> uhuh#
[15:08] <g|s|S> habbits? those small furry things that fuck all the time? :D
[15:08] <gkmotu> hobbits.
[15:08] <SINN> rabbits
[15:09] <joc`> sore bits?
[15:09] <SINN> hobbits?
[15:09] <SINN> ok
[15:09] <SINN> im off now
[15:09] <SINN> Take it Easssyy!
[15:09] <g|s|S> so, the ui is all about hobbits
[15:09] <LordCreep> g|s, masters actually
[15:09] <g|s|S> k
[15:11] <gkmotu> well it sure isnt good to mix various work styles if one is slow or worse..c
[15:11] <joc`> yeah indeed
[15:11] <joc`> whatever gets the job done best in the least time
[15:11] <joc`> Aside from realflow
[15:11] <joc`> anything but realflow
[15:11] <g|s|S> anything but nextlimit-anything :P
[15:12] <joc`> that;s the one
[15:12] <panicb> most fun I ever had with 3D software was messing around with worldbuilder
[15:12] <panicb> it was kinda crappy, but fun to make those landscapes
[15:13] <g|s|S> you never invested hours in typing in scenes with plain text for povray then
[15:13] <panicb> actually I did
[15:13] <g|s|S> *working* booleans :D
[15:13] <panicb> =)
[15:13] <panicb> for a year thats all I did
[15:13] <g|s|S> hehe
[15:14] <panicb> and I got truespace trial version
[15:14] <panicb> they let you render low rez 10 second clips
[15:14] <panicb> hehe
[15:14] <panicb> I did mostly architectural lookin stuff with POV
[15:15] <panicb> in some ways I liked how precisely you were working with the project. If som
[15:15] <panicb> whereas a gui will hide HOW it does something and you have to determine what
[15:16] <g|s|S> having no visual feedback while modeling stuff is a good way of training ;)
[15:16] <panicb> there were a few odd things in PoV when I was using it... radiosity worked s
[15:16] <g|s|S> oh, you already had radiosity in pov
[15:16] <g|s|S> heh
[15:16] <panicb> yea this was 1996
[15:16] <panicb> err 97
[15:17] <panicb> it was implemented but they noted it was buggy
[15:17] <g|s|S> i used povray 2.X when it was new and ran under DOS (yes, the thing with the
[15:17] <panicb> and they had just added some other interesting effects
[15:17] <panicb> oh I'm familiar with that stuff too. I used to do BBSs
[15:17] <g|s|S> "we had nothing!" :D
[15:17] <panicb> I prefer commandline
[15:17] <panicb> well, sometimes =)
[15:18] <panicb> I didn't have a computer before 96 =\
[15:18] <panicb> when I was a kid I couldn't afford what I wanted... amige
[15:18] <panicb> amiga
[15:19] <g|s|S> i think i had POV running on a 486 dx 40 or something
[15:19] <panicb> nice hehe
[15:19] <panicb> I was running that, then truespace trial, then lightwave on my p166
[15:19] <g|s|S> yeah, watching the scanlines go further for a whole day is def fun ;)
[15:19] <panicb> that was my first system
[15:19] <panicb> it was amazing to see the output tho
[15:20] <panicb> even if it was just a stupid collection of shiny spheres or whatever
[15:20] <panicb> I was amazed at what it was doing
[15:20] <g|s|S> C64,A500,A2000,every model from 286 till now :P
[15:20] <g|s|S> haha
[15:20] <panicb> nice, you had amiga
[15:20] <g|s|S> gotta love chrome spheres on checker boards :P
[15:20] <panicb> POV handled blobs really well
[15:20] <g|s|S> yep
[15:20] <g|s|S> they were... round :P
[15:21] <panicb> actually the way it handles geometry is really neat
[15:21] <g|s|S> the CSG thing?
[15:21] <panicb> so familiar. I have forgotten
[15:21] <panicb> I just mean how they are solid objects
[15:21] <panicb> you slice em and those procedural textures are all the way through
[15:22] <g|s|S> constructive solid geometry.. because all objects are mathematically created
[15:22] <panicb> yea
[15:22] <panicb> while I saw the power of things like truespace and lightwave... I missed tha
[15:24] <panicb> was cool how you could do loops and stuff to create arrays of objects
[15:25] <g|s|S> yep
[15:38] <Ta|isman> another quicky update.. this time with bugged SSS :| http://www.3dluvr.co
[15:38] <Ta|isman> back to MR I think :(
[15:39] <g|s|S> back to? what did you render this in?
[15:39] <Ta|isman> Turtle
[15:39] <g|s|S> ah
[15:42] <Anvile> so gimme coffee and tv
[15:42] <Anvile> lalalala
[15:42] <panicb> lookin good talisman
[15:43] <Anvile> rendering with zbrush, Ta|isman?
[15:44] <panicb> I think he's rendering with turtle
[15:44] <Anvile> oh
[15:44] <panicb> at least thats what about 5 lines ago says =)
[15:44] <Anvile> i'm sorta blind
[15:44] * Anvile blinks
[15:44] <Anvile> time for bed
[15:44] * Anvile is now known as Awayvile
[15:45] <Ta|isman> anvile nah ... in maya
[15:45] <Awayvile> oO;
[15:45] * g|s|S stabs Awayviles eyes out with a spoon
[15:46] * wandii yo :D
[15:48] <LordCreep> Hey
[15:48] <LordCreep> Anyone here about the new nvidia card?
[15:48] <LordCreep> The Geforce 7950 GX2?
[15:51] * g|s|S gotz GeForce 19800 GXM Pro Mega VII Ti
[15:52] <LordCreep> G|s
[15:52] <LordCreep> It's 2 7900gtx chips
[15:52] <LordCreep> Not even a single pcb
[15:52] <LordCreep> Sandwhiched together and bridged
[15:52] <g|s|S> pfft
[15:53] <panicb> now that is gonna generate some heat hehe
[15:53] <LordCreep> The only surprising part is
[15:53] <LordCreep> It's price
[15:53] <LordCreep> $600
[15:53] <panicb> no more than a single 7900gtx huh?
[15:54] <g|s|S> somethings foul in the state of denmark
[15:54] <LordCreep> I guess they got their yields way up
[15:54] <LordCreep> Thing is I'm getting sick of the revisions
[15:54] <LordCreep> I mean when is it enough?
[15:55] <g|s|S> i tell you
[15:55] <LordCreep> I mean we shouldn't see a new card until the Geforce8
[15:55] <g|s|S> 64 GPUs piled up, external 4kW PSU
[15:55] <LordCreep> However there was a mention even
[15:55] <LordCreep> That the geforce8 IS the geforce7
[15:55] <LordCreep> With DX10 support
[15:56] <LordCreep> So no architecture redesign
[15:57] <panicb> yea you almost wish they used an upgradeable design or something
[15:57] <panicb> the new card every quarter is crazy
[15:57] <panicb> then a million variations of each
[15:57] <LordCreep> It is upgradeable
[15:57] <g|s|S> thats just because games require cards from two years in the future to run sm
[15:58] <LordCreep> heh
[15:58] <LordCreep> What you pay for is the chip
[15:58] <LordCreep> So whether it was a gpu socket
[15:58] <LordCreep> Or soldered to the pcb
[15:58] <LordCreep> The price would still be up there
[15:59] <LordCreep> g|s, It's funny actually
[15:59] <LordCreep> Oblivian runs poorly even with Quad SLI
[15:59] <panicb> I felt for the type of game it ran acceptably
[16:00] <panicb> I have a dual core 3800 and x800xl
[16:00] <panicb> 2GB ram
[16:00] <g|s|S> the coders should be decapitated and quartered on a market place
[16:01] <panicb> I didn't crank up the settings. it was on "high" defaults and no AA. I have
[16:01] <LordCreep> Bethesda Softwre has never done a proper engine
[16:01] <LordCreep> Software*
[16:01] <LordCreep> Every game they have released suffered the same problems
[16:01] <panicb> hehe
[16:02] <panicb> and the characters are ugly
[16:02] <g|s|S> nobody else thinks its sick that you need to buy a 2k system to play a $50 ga
[16:02] <fdsfds> Hi! I have a problem with applying i bitmap picture to a plane in 3ds. It's
[16:02] <g|s|S> nowtryreadingthemanualtoo
[16:02] <fdsfds> hehe! I can't find anything
[16:03] <panicb> does it render out in good quality?
[16:03] <fdsfds> I've tried the schoolbooks too
[16:03] <fdsfds> Yes. It renders perfectly
[16:03] <panicb> there is probably some detail setting for texture rez
[16:03] <panicb> in viewports
[16:03] <panicb> cause you dont want full resolution usually... for performance reasons
[16:03] <LordCreep> g|s. Daggerfall?
[16:03] <LordCreep> Morrowind?
[16:04] <LordCreep> Think of a single Bethesda title that ran well
[16:04] <LordCreep> Even on modern hardware
[16:04] <panicb> g|s I think its crappy they target such high end hardware
[16:04] <panicb> so I would agree
[16:04] <LordCreep> Morrowind never ran well
[16:04] <panicb> morrowind was almost worse than oblivion
[16:04] <fdsfds> I don't need full resolution=) But it's so bad I can't see any details on it
[16:05] <panicb> 3 years later you are still trying to improve it lol
[16:05] <LordCreep> Daggerfall
[16:05] <LordCreep> Crashed every sec
[16:05] <LordCreep> It was hardly playable
[16:05] <panicb> they do have a cool look to the game tho
[16:05] <fdsfds> It's the same with the perspective view! The bitmap "bounces"
[16:05] <panicb> I liked the first indoor scenes in oblivion
[16:05] <LordCreep> I can think of a whole bunch of other Bethesda games as well
[16:05] <LordCreep> All the same problems
[16:06] <LordCreep> At what point do you start firing someone?
[16:06] <panicb> maybe they would have to fire themselves =)
[16:06] <LordCreep> Graphically great
[16:06] <LordCreep> Game itself is great
[16:06] <LordCreep> etc.
[16:07] <LordCreep> But why ruin it with such poor coding?
[16:08] <panicb> almost seems like they shoot too high
[16:08] <NiteLite> maybe dont cant do better ?
[16:20] <RyanKnope> good evening
[16:20] <g|s|S> morning :P
[16:20] <g|s|S> 1:20am here ;)
[16:20] <RyanKnope> hows it going bro?
[16:21] <g|s|S> slowly
[16:21] <g|s|S> tired as hell :P
[16:21] <g|s|S> you?
[16:21] <RyanKnope> same here
[16:21] <Shigawire> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/TehLurker/CokeOps/OT2.jpg
[16:22] <RyanKnope> tired as hell, got 3 computers rendering a flythrough trying to make dead
[16:24] <RyanKnope> lol, it looks like Izu
[16:24] <RyanKnope> where the hell is he?
[16:25] <Shigawire> lol
[16:25] <RyanKnope> :)
[16:25] <g|s|S> on a mission
[16:25] <RyanKnope> on a mission where?
[16:25] <RyanKnope> lol
[16:25] <g|s|S> burger king
[16:26] <RyanKnope> I miss talking to his dirty ass
[16:26] <RyanKnope> I havent talked to him in quite a while
[16:26] <RyanKnope> I just built a burger king yesterday
[16:27] <RyanKnope> for Las vegas Airport
[16:31] <K-Solo> whats up ryan
[16:31] <K-Solo> =)
[16:31] <RyanKnope> working like hell
[16:31] <K-Solo> hehe
[16:31] <g|s|S> welcome to the club ryan
[16:31] * fading is now known as shea_
[16:32] <RyanKnope> hehe
[16:32] <g|s|S> yesterday: 17h, day before yesterday: 15h, day before day before yesterday: 1
[16:32] <RyanKnope> I have 19 spaces due next friday
[16:32] <g|s|S> heh
[16:32] <RyanKnope> thats 19 restaraunts in 14 days
[16:33] <RyanKnope> ive got 6 done so far
[16:33] <RyanKnope> tomorrow will be 7 days past
[16:34] <RyanKnope> what have you been working on?
[16:34] <g|s|S> commercials for a company im onsite freelancing right now
[16:34] <RyanKnope> cool, sounds like a lot of fun
[16:34] <RyanKnope> atleast were busy
[16:34] <RyanKnope> we would be starving artists
[16:35] <g|s|S> pretty darn busy, yep :P
[16:35] <g|s|S> hehe
[17:32] <sik-style> Evening kids.
[17:32] <mcarp> hi-dee!
[17:32] <Shigawire> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/TehLurker/CokeOps/OT2.jpg
[17:33] <sik-style> Now I feel much safer.
[17:36] <sik-style> Aw man I have a lot to do today. :(
[17:36] <sik-style> French, English, Art (this one is actually enjoyable)
[17:36] <panicb> hehe shiga
[17:38] <sik-style> Alrighty then, lets get crackin'.
[17:52] <WotGorila> aloha
[17:53] * sik-style hands WotGorila a flower necklace.
[17:53] <sik-style> Aloha.
[17:53] <WotGorila> hiya Sik
[17:53] <sik-style> How are you doing this fine evening?
[17:54] <WotGorila> good, just working on some new stuff
[17:54] <sik-style> The ship is completed?
[17:54] <WotGorila> yeah, just rendering now
[17:55] <sik-style> Sweet. Can we see it as well?
[17:56] <Shigawire> me 2
[17:56] <WotGorila> yeah, I'll have to convert it later, got it rendering full size and have
[17:56] <Shigawire> anyone wanna see an animation I did on tuesday?
[17:56] <Shigawire> no.. monday
[17:56] <WotGorila> not sure
[17:56] <sik-style> Yeah, I do. :p
[17:56] <Shigawire> ok
[17:57] <WotGorila> should be getting my new machine at the end of next week
[17:57] <WotGorila> yeaaaa
[17:58] <WotGorila> I want to kick ass on these animations, blow away Discovery Channel, put
[17:59] <WotGorila> Deep Sea detectives to shame
[17:59] <WotGorila> hehe
[18:12] <WotGorila> shig, is it up?
[18:12] <WotGorila> bbl
[18:13] <WotGorila> msg me the link
[18:17] <reddino> i wanna see too
[18:17] <reddino> :(
[18:24] <Shigawire> I uh
[18:24] <Shigawire> the link is dead
[18:24] <Shigawire> know where I could place it? :p
[18:26] <sik-style> www.yousendit.com In your Recipient email address put your own email addr
[18:26] <sik-style> Yousendit has good transfer rate too.
[18:28] <Shigawire> ooh ok
[18:28] <Shigawire> ta
[18:29] <Shigawire> gotta go to bed
[18:29] <Shigawire> gnite
[18:29] <Shigawire> and good luck
[18:29] <sik-style> Good night. :)
[18:47] <sik-style> Evening Arielana.
[18:51] <Arielana> heya
[18:52] <sik-style> Did you watch Prison Break>
[18:52] <sik-style> ?*
[18:52] <Arielana> yeah
[18:53] <sik-style> Crazy, wasn't it. :p
[18:53] <Arielana> yeah
[18:53] <Arielana> definately
[18:53] <sik-style> I hate and love their cliffhangers.
[18:53] <sik-style> So unpredictable, which is good.
[18:58] <Arielana> waiting for the Lost finale now
[18:58] <WotGorila> hiya arie
[18:59] <Arielana> hey WG
[18:59] <Arielana> seems awfully quiet in here tonight
[19:00] <WotGorila> yeah
[19:01] * NiteLite is reading about physics librarys
[19:02] <reddino> lalala
[19:02] <Arielana> well seems there are a few awake
[19:03] <WotGorila> just working on the side
[19:03] <Arielana> ah
[19:03] <reddino> yeah macroscripting some of my scripts
[19:03] <reddino> to have it handy
[19:08] <Arielana> mmm tv dinner
[19:08] <Arielana> heh
[19:09] <Arielana> home made right in the microwave
[19:10] <WotGorila> yum
[19:11] <WotGorila> coffee here
[19:11] <Arielana> well i needed to eat something, just took a lortab
[19:11] <Arielana> and they aren't good on an empty stomach
[19:11] <WotGorila> what's that?
[19:11] <Arielana> pain medicine
[19:11] <WotGorila> ahh
[19:11] <Arielana> i'd rather have my muscle relaxer but i can't find it
[19:12] <Arielana> lortab fucks with my head and makes me forget tha my back is killing me
[19:12] <WotGorila> heh
[19:12] <Arielana> the skelaxin actually helps the muscle relax and not spasm, which is what
[19:13] <WotGorila> ouch
[19:13] <WotGorila> Sometimes my back goes out, feels like a heart attack
[19:13] <Arielana> my leg just loses all feeling and i fall
[19:13] <Arielana> heh
[19:14] <WotGorila> from putting a Camaro in a ditch and hitting a tree backwckwards
[19:14] <WotGorila> back when I was 16
[19:14] <Arielana> ah
[19:14] <WotGorila> heh
[19:14] <WotGorila> back when I was young and crazy
[19:15] <WotGorila> now I'm just old and crazy
[19:16] <Arielana> im just old
[19:16] <Arielana> okie, probably a *lil* crazy
[19:16] <WotGorila> you have more speeding tickets than me
[19:16] <WotGorila> ;)
[19:17] <WotGorila> The judge once had a petition of 50 names to have my liscense taken away
[19:18] <WotGorila> apparently people don't like it much whn you drive 140 mph ALL the time
[19:19] <WotGorila> Stories my wife won't let me tell my kids
[19:19] <WotGorila> ;)
[19:19] <Arielana> yeah it's been a year tho since my last speeding ticket
[19:20] <Arielana> gone a whole year
[19:20] <WotGorila> "back in my day...we didn't stop for cops...." and then I get hit
[19:22] <Arielana> ah there it is
[19:22] <Arielana> kicking in
[19:22] <Arielana> heh
[19:22] <WotGorila> back then there were lots of logging and tractor trails, or you could fol
[19:23] <WotGorila> have demo derbys and races
[19:23] <WotGorila> fun things 12 year olds do
[19:30] <Arielana> dizzy
[19:30] <sik-style> Go to bed.
[19:31] <sik-style> Rest.
[19:31] <Arielana> can't now, just lay there for hours staring at the ceilign wishing i could
[19:31] <Arielana> it's why i hate these things
[19:31] <Arielana> will call my dr tomorrow and get him to call me in a prescription for skel
[19:34] <K-Solo> hi arielana
[19:35] <Arielana> hey K-Solo
[19:42] <Arielana> http://www.scrypt.net/~deneb/ftp/blade-bounce.mov
[19:42] <Arielana> heh my friend jim's work
[19:42] <Arielana> first thing i said when he's asking me about his blade is "why doesnt your
[19:42] <Arielana> lol
[19:42] <Arielana> im so picky ;)
[19:55] <Arielana> hi Fal
[19:56] <FalConTer> evening arie
[20:01] <Arielana> okie, gonna go lay down
[20:01] <Arielana> see if the room stops spinning
[20:01] <Arielana> n8n8 guys
[20:01] <Arielana> hugz
[20:01] * Arielana is now known as Arie|Zzz
[20:01] <sik-style> night.
[20:01] <sik-style> Get well soon.
[20:02] <FalConTer> nite
[20:06] * Method40z is now known as Method404
[20:06] <sik-style> Why good evening, Piccy`.
[20:15] <sik-style> Me, your mama, and some other whore
[20:15] <sik-style> Floatin' down a river on a shithouse door.
[20:15] <sik-style> Gonna tie my pecker to my leg
[20:16] <sik-style> to my leg
[20:16] <sik-style> Gonna tie my pecker to my leeeeg
[20:18] <Method404> sik?
[20:19] <Method404> you alright dude?
[20:19] <sik-style> I think so. :p
[20:19] <sik-style> Why?
[20:19] <Method404> because you are scaring me
[20:20] <sik-style> Well I am a big dick daddy
[20:20] <sik-style> and a fucking fool
[20:20] <Method404> wtf
[20:20] <sik-style> It's a song. :p
[20:20] <Method404> what the hell song is that?
[20:20] <sik-style> Asshole is tighter than Atlanta's steel drum.
[20:20] <sik-style> Now Playing: Mojo Nixon - Tie My Pecker to My Leg
[20:20] <sik-style> ;)
[20:20] <sik-style> Want it? :p
[20:20] <Method404> wtf
[20:20] <Method404> YES!
[20:20] <Method404> OF COURSE!
[20:21] <sik-style> All right! :p
[20:23] <sik-style> I tried looking for lyrics but the artist decided not the reveal them. :p
[20:24] <sik-style> Like it, Method404? :p
[20:24] <Method404> how the hell did you find this
[20:24] <sik-style> I don't know. I just had it. I really don't remember where I got it. :p
[20:24] <Method404> lol
[20:24] <Method404> its awesome
[20:25] <sik-style> Yeah, I know. 5th time playing already. :p
[20:26] <sik-style> I'll be singing this song all day in school probably. :p
[20:27] <Method404> is you teacher hot?
[20:27] <sik-style> 2 of them are. :p
[20:27] <sik-style> English and Biology. :p
[20:27] <Method404> sing it to them
[20:27] <sik-style> Haha. :p
[20:28] <Method404> even Lotny will agree
[20:30] <WotGorila> yeah, women love it when you tell them you have to tie your pecker to you
[20:30] <WotGorila> .......in penthouse stories
[20:32] <Method404> WotGorila likes the women that tie their peckers to their legs
[20:32] <sik-style> Of course, WotGorila, telling them that is the #1 pick-up line in the boo
[20:32] <sik-style> Haha.
[20:33] <WotGorila> heh
[20:33] <sik-style> It'll wipe them off their feet.
[20:33] <sik-style> Try it on your wife. :p
[20:34] <WotGorila> I got hit enough today
[20:34] <sik-style> I hope in a good/kinky way. :p
[20:35] <WotGorila> heh, reminds me of that episode where the short girl hits everyone
[20:35] <WotGorila> LOL
[20:35] <WotGorila> that's sooo true
[20:35] <sik-style> What? That she hit you in a good/kinky way? :p
[20:35] <WotGorila> no, just short girls always like to punch
[20:36] <WotGorila> heh
[20:54] <spratt> hiya all
[20:55] <FalConTer> hiya spratt
[20:55] <spratt> hi falc, how goes?
[20:56] <FalConTer> hangin in there thanks..you?
[20:56] <spratt> yeah good
[20:56] <spratt> just about to re-cut our demoreel i think
[20:57] <FalConTer> cool
[20:57] <ghib[2d]> our demoreel? where do you work?
[20:57] <spratt> ah, this is just some personal work I have done, i work for a games company
[20:57] <ghib[2d]> oh right. which company?
[20:58] <ghib[2d]> we're about to release our 1st game. and... i can't sleep. 5am
[20:58] <spratt> Valve
[20:58] <ghib[2d]> seriously?
[20:58] <spratt> yep, been there 3 years now
[20:58] <ghib[2d]> we're releasing on steam
[20:58] <ghib[2d]> i work for Outerlight
[20:58] <spratt> ah OK !
[20:58] <spratt> very cool :D
[20:59] <ghib[2d]> so what do you do at valve?
[20:59] <spratt> 3d environment artist
[21:00] <spratt> i gotta run - ill be back later
[21:00] <spratt> good luck with the release
[21:00] <ghib[2d]> later man
[21:00] <spratt> cya
[21:00] <ghib[2d]> cheers
[21:00] <ghib[2d]> what were the chances of that :)
[21:02] <PXL_MoNKY> i would say 100%
[21:02] <ghib[2d]> yeh. it's not every night i have insomnia. and decide to do a bit of work
[21:16] <Method404> ghib
[21:16] <Method404> how did you heal and repair your dry cracked nipples?
[21:16] <Method404> howdy PXL
[21:17] <ghib[2d]> Mother404 i licked them better
[21:19] <Method404> how did you reach!?
[21:19] <Method404> do you have big floppies?
[21:19] <ghib[2d]> really big tongue
[21:20] <Method404> wow
[21:20] <Method404> impressive
[21:29] <reddino> www.apple.com/trailers/independent/supersize_me.html
[21:29] <reddino> o wrong window :>
[21:32] <K-Solo> hehe
[21:32] <PXL_MoNKY> heya Method404
[21:32] <reddino> did any of you guys saw that movie already >
[21:32] <Method404> supersize me was alright
[21:32] <Method404> it's a bit biased
[21:32] <Method404> and the dude gets super sick
[21:32] <Method404> but GEEEZ
[21:32] <Method404> he was a strict vegetarian just before doing it
[21:32] <Method404> wtf
[21:32] <K-Solo> hehe
[21:32] <Method404> of course he's gonna get sick
[21:32] <PXL_MoNKY> yeah...that will make most people sick
[21:32] <K-Solo> well, that would make most ppl sick anyway meth
[21:32] <Method404> yeah
[21:32] <Method404> not eating meat
[21:32] <K-Solo> mcdonalds is real unhealthy
[21:32] <Method404> and then just shoving it in
[21:33] <PXL_MoNKY> my brother doesn't eat red meat and if he eats something with red meat in
[21:33] <Method404> K-Solo: no doubt
[21:33] <reddino> so the movie is good
[21:33] <reddino> ?:)
[21:33] <Method404> its ok
[21:33] <K-Solo> i dont think supersize me was biased tho
[21:34] <Method404> its worth checking out
[21:34] <Method404> it's biased towards just mcDonalds
[21:34] <reddino> ill order it then :)
[21:34] <Method404> ;D
[21:34] <Method404> hmm rent it
[21:34] <Method404> put it on your netflixx
[21:34] <K-Solo> meth: when you mean biased, what do you mean?
[21:34] <K-Solo> biased in a bad way?
[21:34] <reddino> dvd price is same as a double quarter mcdonald with cheese
[21:35] <K-Solo> haha
[21:35] <reddino> so what to get, the dvd or the meal ?
[21:35] <reddino> (:
[21:35] <PXL_MoNKY> id take the double quarter pounder :X
[21:35] <Method404> K-Solo: it's unheatlhy to eat the same thing over and over and over
[21:35] <reddino> i used to eat mcdonalds everyday
[21:35] <reddino> for 4 years
[21:35] <Method404> damn dude
[21:35] <Method404> how fat did you get
[21:35] <Method404> I ate it a lot
[21:35] <Method404> and gained plenty
[21:35] <PXL_MoNKY> plus his body probably stopped producing the enzymes needed to break down
[21:35] <reddino> i was 195 pounds
[21:36] <vitru> huh ?
[21:36] <reddino> then like 2 months ago i stoped eating mcdonalds// fast food
[21:36] <reddino> and now i am 155 lbs
[21:36] <K-Solo> wow
[21:36] <Method404> I went from 242 to 195lbs
[21:36] <WotGorila> well, portions of all servings at stores and restaurants has doubled in t
[21:36] <PXL_MoNKY> i dont think you need the movie ;)
[21:36] <reddino> 2 months without eating fast food i lost 40 lbs
[21:36] <Method404> gonna keep going for another 25lbs or so
[21:36] <K-Solo> you can try reading "fast food nation" though
[21:36] <K-Solo> hehe
[21:37] <K-Solo> that book is much better
[21:37] <reddino> oh i have it already (:
[21:37] <reddino> thats why i was wondering about this movie (:
[21:37] <Method404> losing 40lbs in 2 months is pretty unhealthy
[21:37] <K-Solo> really?
[21:37] <PXL_MoNKY> im just goign to buy XXXL shirts and put "Anoxeria Worked For Me" on them
[21:37] <Method404> as long as you keep it off
[21:37] <Method404> fast weightloss is usually temporary
[21:37] <K-Solo> reddino: the movie is good... obviously its not gonna be so indepth and broa
[21:37] <reddino> yeah i gained all those 40 lbs in 2 months too
[21:37] <K-Solo> reddino: it serves its purpose though
[21:38] <reddino> then i keep it for almost 2 years
[21:38] <reddino> i stoped eating mcdonalds, no diets
[21:38] <K-Solo> wow
[21:38] <reddino> i just stoped eating fast food and started eating fish and vegetals
[21:39] <K-Solo> kool
[21:39] <reddino> i am not starving if i want to eat i can eat the entire refrigerator at mid
[21:39] <reddino> :>
[21:39] <Method404> just be aware of your calorie intake
[21:40] <Method404> calories in and calories out
[21:40] <reddino> yeah :>
[21:40] <vitru> wow
[21:40] <K-Solo> reddino: yeah, with veggies, you can eat a lot more and be okay
[21:40] <K-Solo> hehe
[21:40] <Method404> 1500 calories = 1lb
[21:40] <vitru> how many refrigeretor you had eat ?
[21:40] <PXL_MoNKY> someone should do a sequal where someone who eats only fast food becomes
[21:40] <Method404> so if you eat an extra 500 calories a day
[21:40] <K-Solo> method: really?
[21:40] <Method404> in a week
[21:41] <PXL_MoNKY> i wonder how unhealthy they would become
[21:41] <Method404> you will have gained 2 1/2 lbs
[21:41] <K-Solo> pxl: heh...it would be boring...
[21:41] <K-Solo> pxl: becuz thats not unhealthy, hah
[21:41] <PXL_MoNKY> actually it is
[21:41] <PXL_MoNKY> its about eating balanced meals
[21:41] <reddino> method, thats where the aerobics and gym take part of the game (:
[21:41] <Method404> yep
[21:41] <K-Solo> pxl: moving from someone who only eats fast food and then goin vegetarian is
[21:42] <Method404> that's how I've lost 50lbs
[21:42] <PXL_MoNKY> take out protein is a bad move
[21:42] <reddino> so you can eat whatever u want ( no fast food )
[21:42] <Method404> most people do NOT gtet enough protein
[21:42] <K-Solo> pxl: do you realize that there are veggies that have protein?
[21:42] <PXL_MoNKY> yes
[21:42] <reddino> and still you can be a skinny bastard
[21:42] <reddino> (:
[21:42] <reddino> heheah
[21:42] <K-Solo> pxl: one myth is the thought that meat is the best source of protein
[21:43] <PXL_MoNKY> i would be a skinny bastard if i worked out
[21:43] <Method404> you really should have 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight
[21:43] <Method404> if not more
[21:43] <Method404> best source of protein are eggs and semen
[21:43] <K-Solo> haha
[21:44] <Method404> it's true
[21:44] <reddino> lmfao
[21:44] <Method404> I eat 6-10 egg whites in the morning
[21:44] <reddino> i dont like egg
[21:44] <Method404> and plenty of whey protein
[21:44] <PXL_MoNKY> how much semen? :X
[21:44] <K-Solo> method: excuse me rocky balboa
[21:44] <reddino> i havent eated egg in my hole life
[21:44] <reddino> (:
[21:45] <reddino> egg, onion, all that stuff are on my blacklist for life
[21:45] <reddino> (:
[21:45] <K-Solo> haha
[21:45] <K-Solo> i dont mind onions when its blended in a sauce
[21:45] <vitru> onions are good for heart
[21:45] * PXL_MoNKY is now known as PXL_ZzZz
[21:46] <PXL_ZzZz> gn all
[21:46] <reddino> soy is good for heart
[21:46] <K-Solo> later pxl
[21:46] <reddino> so i will pick soy crisps rather than smelly onion
[21:46] <reddino> :>
[21:46] <Method404> nite PXL
[21:46] <K-Solo> red: hah
[21:46] <Method404> soy protein will give you man tits
[21:47] <reddino> onion will get u no girl in 50 meters
[21:48] <K-Solo> how much would you charge for a 4-6 sec animation of a logo... logo animates
[21:48] <Method404> $450k
[21:48] <K-Solo> i like girls with an onion ass
[21:49] <K-Solo> method: great! thanks!
[21:49] <K-Solo> not!
[21:49] <K-Solo> haha
[21:49] <reddino> 455$
[21:49] <reddino> ¬¬
[21:49] <K-Solo> $455 total?
[21:49] <K-Solo> hmmn
[21:49] <WotGorila> The US post office paid a million for their logo design
[21:49] <K-Solo> wotgorila: you kidden me?
[21:49] <K-Solo> to who?
[21:50] <K-Solo> no wonder the government is doomed
[21:50] <reddino> cause they have money
[21:50] <WotGorila> heh, that's govt spending for ya
[21:50] <Method404> depends on the complexity of the logo animation man
[21:50] <Method404> it'd probably take a day
[21:50] <Method404> to play it safe
[21:50] <Method404> so figure out your day rate
[21:50] <reddino> or a month!
[21:50] <K-Solo> so if its a days work
[21:51] <Method404> yea
[21:51] <Method404> or a month
[21:51] <K-Solo> between $400 to $500
[21:51] <reddino> or few months!
[21:51] <reddino> lmfao
[21:51] <K-Solo> i'll say $400.. since i know dude
[21:52] <K-Solo> a few months, hehe
[21:52] <K-Solo> wouldnt that be awesome
[21:52] <K-Solo> reddino: roomie is makin the big bucks now
[21:52] <reddino> roomie rocks
[21:52] <reddino> :>
[21:53] <K-Solo> i told him that hes gettin more than the guys @ blue sky
[21:53] <K-Solo> haha
[21:53] <reddino> heheha
[21:53] <reddino> he deserved that and more :>
[21:53] <Method404> wtf
[21:53] <Method404> what happened with roomie
[21:53] <K-Solo> reddino: yah
[21:53] <reddino> he is mayah
[21:54] <K-Solo> reddino: i told him he could've gotten more $ that what he asked
[21:54] <reddino> maya dudes get pait better
[21:54] <reddino> yeah
[21:54] <Method404> huh? I'm confused
[21:54] <Method404> did het get a new job?
[21:54] <K-Solo> yeah
[21:54] <K-Solo> he got a new gig
[21:54] <Method404> wtf
[21:54] <Method404> why didn't he tell me
[21:54] <reddino> maya particlefx artist get like 3 times more than max one
[21:54] <reddino> but there are like 5 in the planet
[21:54] <reddino> lol
[21:54] <reddino> hahaha
[21:55] <K-Solo> meth: go yell at him... when i didnt tell him i had an interview at NBC, he
[21:55] <K-Solo> give him his karma
[21:55] <K-Solo> hehe
[21:55] <Method404> well geez
[21:55] <reddino> he was featured on 3dtotal!
[21:55] <reddino> ehhehe
[21:55] <Method404> I've been getting some people to look at his reel at work and email him f
[21:55] <K-Solo> reddino: haha @ 5 maya particle artists on the planet
[21:55] <K-Solo> hehe
[21:55] <Method404> I'm gonna ignore his roomie ass
[21:56] <K-Solo> hahaha
[21:56] <K-Solo> meth: oh yeah, he was featured on 3DTOTAL
[21:56] <K-Solo> i forgot about that
[21:56] <reddino> :>
[21:56] <K-Solo> he was featured on the main page
[21:56] <K-Solo> meth: he's a rock star right now, he doesnt have time for lowly folks like y
[21:57] <reddino> hahaha
[21:57] <K-Solo> gotta wait in line to get your autograph man
[21:57] <K-Solo> right behind me
[21:57] <K-Solo> haha
[21:57] <Method404> wtf
[21:57] <reddino> i got the autograph already
[21:57] <Method404> where did he get a gig
[21:57] <Method404> that was quick
[21:57] <reddino> ehheah
[21:58] <K-Solo> yeah, he took the first offer he got i think
[21:58] <reddino> i am out to bed now
[21:58] <reddino> laterz maxinos :>
[21:58] <K-Solo> he's a rock star
[21:58] <K-Solo> high demand
[21:58] <K-Solo> later reddino
[21:59] <K-Solo> meth: have you heard of brand new school?
[22:01] <Method404> no
[22:01] <Method404> don't think so
[22:01] <Method404> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5892885242768193828
[22:05] <K-Solo> meth: thats where he got the gig at
[22:07] <Method404> why the F*** didn't he tell me >:Z
[22:07] <reddino> are u in ny method ?
[22:08] <Method404> no
[22:08] <K-Solo> meth: he's in LA
[22:08] <K-Solo> hehe
[22:08] <reddino> oh oh :>
[22:08] <K-Solo> NY >> LA... meth doesnt understand
[22:08] <K-Solo> =)
[22:08] <Method404> I'm in Kazikstan
[22:09] <K-Solo> meth: hehe
[22:09] <K-Solo> meth: were you hookin him up wit ppl at your job?
[22:10] <Method404> we aren't hiring
[22:10] <K-Solo> meth: i saw sum posts on a site
[22:10] <Method404> but I was getting some people to take a look at provide feedback
[22:10] <Method404> hrmm
[22:10] <K-Solo> almost sure it was your place
[22:10] <Method404> really?
[22:10] <K-Solo> yea
[22:10] <Method404> where
[22:11] <K-Solo> just a sec
[22:11] <K-Solo> lemme pull it up
[22:11] <Method404> that is quite odd
[22:11] <Method404> but I suppose it's possible
[22:11] <K-Solo> i'm more up on it than you are
[22:11] <K-Solo> hehe
[22:11] <Method404> lol
[22:12] <K-Solo> http://www.uemedia.net/CPC/2-pop/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=120447
[22:12] <K-Solo> DisneyToon Studios , an industry leader in the creation of quality animated
[22:12] <Method404> ah Disney Toons
[22:13] <Method404> that's across the street, seperate from the Feature Animation division
[22:14] <K-Solo> ahhh
[22:14] <K-Solo> okay
[22:15] <Method404> they're in charge of the direct to videos
[22:15] <Method404> looks like Chantal is the recruiter though
[22:16] <Method404> 2-pop forums seems to be a great source for jobs, but I never hear it men
[22:16] <K-Solo> who's Chantel?
[22:16] <K-Solo> meth: yup!
[22:16] <K-Solo> meth: i got the nbc interview through respondin to a post there
[22:17] <Method404> Chantal is a Disney recruiter I know
[22:17] <K-Solo> meth: along with anotha meetin i'm gonna have tomorrow or so
[22:17] <K-Solo> meth: a lot of ppl dont seem to know or pay attention to 2-pop forum tho
[22:17] <Method404> yea
[22:17] <Method404> it's odd
[22:18] <K-Solo> but i dont care... i want ppl to continue to SLEEP on that forum
[22:18] <K-Solo> better for me
[22:18] <K-Solo> =)
[22:19] <Method404> hehe
[22:20] <K-Solo> lucas arts seems to be on a hiring binge it seems
[22:21] <K-Solo> so disney uses recruiters?
[22:21] <K-Solo> interestin
[22:21] <K-Solo> i didnt think they would even need 2 do that
[22:22] <LordCreep> Can't get cocky though
[22:22] <Method404> oh yeah
[22:23] <Method404> all studios use recruiters
[22:23] <K-Solo> meth: really?
[22:23] <K-Solo> interesting...
[22:23] <Method404> yea
[22:23] <LordCreep> Some of the best are the ones that aren't looking
[22:23] <K-Solo> i thought ppl would be sending reels in droves that there would be absolutel
[22:23] <Method404> they can act as filters
[22:23] <Method404> which can be good and can be bad
[22:23] <K-Solo> lordcreep: hmmn
[22:24] <Method404> K-Solo ... recruiters help to sorty through all the submissions
[22:24] <K-Solo> ahhh
[22:24] <Method404> chances are your submissions go to the recruiters first
[22:24] <K-Solo> so did the dirty work of screening
[22:24] <Method404> before anywhere else
[22:25] <LordCreep> Speaking of lucas
[22:25] <LordCreep> Have you seen the trailer for the new sam and amx?
[22:25] <LordCreep> max*
[22:26] <Method404> they aren't doing it
[22:26] <LordCreep> It's still coming out
[22:26] <Method404> Lucas isn't I mean
[22:26] <K-Solo> here is another Disney post
[22:26] <LordCreep> Someone else
[22:26] <Method404> yeah
[22:26] <K-Solo> this is from last month though, April 18th
[22:26] <K-Solo> http://www.uemedia.net/CPC/2-pop/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=118235
[22:26] <Method404> Lucasarts is hiring like mad, yeah ...
[22:26] <LordCreep> Method, http://www.telltalegames.com/sam_and_max
[22:26] <K-Solo> We currently have exciting opportunities for Hair/Cloth TDs to join our team
[22:26] <Method404> Lucas publicly stated that he sees games as the next form of entertainmen
[22:26] <Method404> he's gonna jump into that full force
[22:27] <K-Solo> Disney Animation combines the very best in artistry and storytelling with cu
[22:27] <Method404> and with ILM and LucasArts sharing resources now ... who knows
[22:27] <Method404> ah yeah
[22:27] <Method404> Hair and Cloth people are always in demand
[22:28] <K-Solo> see...
[22:28] <K-Solo> =)
[22:28] <K-Solo> told you i was up on it
[22:28] <K-Solo> =)
[22:28] <K-Solo> hehe
[22:29] <Method404> hehe
Session Close: Fri May 19 00:00:00 2006