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Session Start: Thu May 11 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:12] <WotGorila> morning Mad
[00:13] <madkarma> :D
[00:13] <madkarma> morning
[00:13] <madkarma> had any luck sorting it out or do i save it all seperate ?
[00:13] <WotGorila> have to do it seperate I guess
[00:14] <madkarma> no problem
[00:14] <madkarma> just as easy
[00:39] <DocHolidy> http://myspace-306.vo.llnwd.net/00723/60/34/723684306_l.jpg is'nt t
[00:39] <DocHolidy> whooops wrong win
[00:56] <artisanWE> m33p m33p
[01:20] * Pyroscrol is now known as John577
[02:45] <AceOvArts> http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/cars/trailer2/
[02:45] <AceOvArts> man...the animation is sooo good
[02:45] * AceOvArts starts crying
[02:46] <madkarma> but the design is so shitty
[02:46] <AceOvArts> looks fine to me ;)
[02:46] <madkarma> i dont like the cars at all
[02:47] <madkarma> they are way to different from the rest of the world they are in
[02:47] <AceOvArts> funny, I remember stating chicken little, we obviously have a different t
[02:47] <AceOvArts> but I can forgive pixar prettymuch anything
[02:48] <madkarma> chicken little ?.. i dont think i commented on that
[02:48] <AceOvArts> oh I though it was you that liked the way that looked...I hated it
[02:48] <AceOvArts> the character design that is
[02:48] <AceOvArts> maybe not then
[02:48] <madkarma> at least the style is concequent
[02:50] <AceOvArts> the environments in cars are stunning
[02:50] <Bluplet> concequent??
[02:50] <madkarma> the shots i saw from cars .. suroundings and scenery are ..
[02:50] <madkarma> was just gonna say the same
[02:50] <madkarma> i just dont like the cars
[02:51] <AceOvArts> unless they had a style running through cars there is not really any othe
[02:51] <AceOvArts> they could have created a definate style though
[02:52] <madkarma> perhaps im spoiled rotten with exelent 3d
[02:54] <AceOvArts> for me, pixar are the pinnacle of animation
[02:55] <AceOvArts> they blow me away every time
[02:55] <madkarma> yeah.. they do an exelent job at that for sure
[02:56] <madkarma> studio ghibli .. know them ?
[02:56] <AceOvArts> oh yea of course
[02:56] <madkarma> they are mad genius aswell
[02:56] <AceOvArts> lovely work
[02:57] <AceOvArts> yup though I still think Spirited Away is probably thier bbest work
[02:57] <madkarma> its funny.. i have a ton of animations for my daughter
[02:57] <madkarma> but those are mine
[02:57] <AceOvArts> :)
[02:57] <AceOvArts> I wasnt overly impressed with Howels moving castle
[02:58] <madkarma> and she doesnt watch all the pulp she got from disney
[02:58] <madkarma> so proud :)
[02:58] <AceOvArts> how old ?
[02:58] <madkarma> 4
[02:58] <AceOvArts> :)
[02:58] <AceOvArts> cool
[02:58] <AceOvArts> I have an 8 yr old and twin boys of 4
[02:58] <AceOvArts> its amaing how much they all like CG more
[02:58] <madkarma> twins huh
[02:58] <madkarma> same here
[02:58] <AceOvArts> my 8yr old wants to be an animator....hehe
[02:58] <AceOvArts> wow mate
[02:58] <madkarma> 14 months
[02:59] <AceOvArts> man, twin are mad
[02:59] <madkarma> i know mine are
[02:59] <madkarma> mad rodents
[02:59] <AceOvArts> boys ?
[02:59] <madkarma> yeah
[02:59] <AceOvArts> oh mate, you waite....it get real crazy
[02:59] <madkarma> they already work in a pact and wreck my house
[02:59] <AceOvArts> lol
[03:00] <madkarma> my daughter is worse
[03:00] <AceOvArts> lol
[03:00] <AceOvArts> my daughter is cool with the boys, she keeps some control
[03:00] <madkarma> its good the travel by 2.. she is my little demon spawn
[03:00] <AceOvArts> hehe
[03:00] <madkarma> also a strong woman
[03:01] <madkarma> identical twins ?
[03:01] <AceOvArts> yup
[03:01] <madkarma> mine look like they are from different families
[03:02] <AceOvArts> mine are technically identical, but 1 is bigger than the other
[03:02] <AceOvArts> we had a rocky pregnancy
[03:03] <madkarma> one sec.. putting them to bed right now
[03:05] <Bluplet> twins
[03:05] <Bluplet> we've got twins on the team at work
[03:06] <AceOvArts> identical ?
[03:07] <Bluplet> yes
[03:07] <Bluplet> one programs, the other does sets
[03:10] <madkarma> that must be pretty wacky
[03:11] * suurland_ is now known as suurland
[03:18] <AceOvArts> it must be wacky for twins full stop
[04:11] <Pwneren> if I got a terrain and want to animate a camera around the scene but its to
[04:12] <mcarp> build more terrain, put up fake walls, use fog, put some trees in the way, ho
[04:13] <Pwneren> I'd rather not add stuff that increases render time
[04:13] <Pwneren> or the least amount
[04:13] <Pwneren> of extra render time
[04:13] <mcarp> well, you asked
[04:14] <Pwneren> yes but now I specified, "what should I do, that takes the least render tim
[04:14] <mcarp> fog i guess
[04:14] <Pwneren> I'll try it thx
[04:18] <llimaa> make a sphere add a nice infinite texture to it
[04:18] <llimaa> liitle bit fog
[04:19] <mcarp> a box is cheaper
[04:19] <llimaa> or add sprites
[04:20] <llimaa> instantiate 1x1 planes with tree alpha texture on it
[04:21] <llimaa> and other stuff
[04:54] * nitelite is now known as NiteLite
[05:40] <madkarma> stupid fancy rapier with all that twisted metal
[05:40] <madkarma> NUTS
[06:43] <AceOvArts> anyone checked out spore at e3...gamespot got good movies of it...looks g
[06:50] <Dr_Rambo> you are about 2 year late
[06:50] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[06:50] <Dr_Rambo> yo wassup ace
[06:51] <Meyitzo> anyone know hwo i can a nice smooth image as a background in max instead of
[06:51] <AceOvArts> 2 years ?
[06:51] <AceOvArts> whyso
[06:51] <AceOvArts> its just getting better
[06:51] <AceOvArts> not out till next year
[06:52] <AceOvArts> Meyitzo> goto yout preferences and in viewports/configure driver turn
[06:54] <AceOvArts> dr_rambo...the new movie of the editor...check it
[06:54] <AceOvArts> need to get me a copy of that
[06:56] <madkarma> spore combined with some rpg
[06:56] <madkarma> a shooter or some slice and dice
[06:59] <AceOvArts> its very nice
[07:03] <madkarma> i thought it was pretty finished a long time ago
[07:03] <AceOvArts> probably AI
[07:03] <AceOvArts> not an easy thing to achieve well
[07:04] <Piccy> hey mk
[07:04] <madkarma> hey
[07:04] <Piccy> how're you?
[07:04] <madkarma> the AI that they have in spore is unlike anything i ever saw
[07:05] <madkarma> pretty good.. almost finished with a faery rapier for my conquistador
[07:06] <madkarma> damn those things are so bloody girly
[07:06] * Piccy blinks.
[07:06] <Piccy> what're you taking about? :)
[07:07] <madkarma> a sword
[07:07] <AceOvArts> a pentium d at 4.1ghz...damn
[07:19] <Anvile> proper render :P
[07:19] <Anvile> www.xs4all.nl/~anvile/temp/thingy_zoveel3.jpg
[07:21] <madkarma> MEEEEEEEER LAMPEN!!!! ... meeeeeer lampen
[07:21] <madkarma> lijkt wel of er iemand staat te gillen joh
[07:21] <Anvile> hehe
[07:21] <Anvile> jaja
[07:23] * format_d is now known as format_c
[07:27] <decap> hijs beetje zwart :o
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[08:01] * madkarma is now known as mad_AFK
[08:08] <bluepunk`> yo
[08:09] <bluepunk`> what hardware should one improve first to get better max performance?
[08:12] <tekoness> video card
[08:12] <tekoness> ram
[08:12] <tekoness> processor
[08:14] <bluepunk`> in that order ?
[08:15] <tekoness> that what id do, but it depends on what you have noe
[08:15] <tekoness> now
[08:15] <bluepunk`> well i'll have a very decent system in a month or so
[08:15] <tekoness> well prolly ram would give you the best performance /price ratio
[08:16] <bluepunk`> sempron 3100+ 1 gb ram ati x1600XT
[08:17] <bluepunk`> but when i have that i'm wondering between more ram or an even faster cpu
[08:39] <Martin^> bluepunk`: i would put some more ram in that
[08:39] <|rt|_> bluepunk`: depends on what you have now and where your having issues
[08:40] <|rt|_> and what type of work you're doing
[08:40] <|rt|_> if you're not running out of ram adding more won't speed things up
[08:40] <Martin^> 1gb is bound to run out
[08:40] <Martin^> at least with vista coming
[08:40] <|rt|_> if you are running out of ram then more ram will speed up things more than an
[08:41] <|rt|_> vista is a ways off
[08:41] <|rt|_> especially in production environments
[08:41] <|rt|_> that machine will not run vista
[08:41] <Martin^> that machine wont run vista?
[08:42] <|rt|_> doubt it
[08:42] <|rt|_> not well anyhow
[08:42] <Martin^> this monday i saw an hp laptop with a mobile cpu and 1gbs of ram run it jus
[08:42] <|rt|_> yeah but do you want to run an OS that eats up all your resources?
[08:43] <Martin^> they said that about xp too ;)
[08:43] <Martin^> besides, vista looks brilliant
[08:43] <Martin^> it had some awsome solutions
[08:43] <Mithandir> errr
[08:43] <|rt|_> i don't care what my os looks like
[08:43] <Mithandir> yes, it solves the harware manufacturers search for excuses to get you to
[08:44] <Martin^> well well, the world moves forwards
[08:44] <|rt|_> most companies are just now adobting windows XP
[08:44] <|rt|_> the world wont' be using Vista until 2009
[08:44] <Martin^> my company is stepping up for vista right now
[08:45] <|rt|_> most companies are staring to plan and evaluate vista now
[08:45] <|rt|_> but most companies move pretty slow to roll out new operating systems
[08:45] <Martin^> ok this is a pretty useless conversation
[08:45] <Martin^> imho vista looks great, and im looking fowards to using it
[08:46] <|rt|_> good for you
[08:46] <|rt|_> i'll stick with XP64 until I have a real reason to upgrade
[08:47] <|rt|_> but back to bluepunk`
[08:48] <|rt|_> if all you're doing is NTSC type stuff you can get by with 1gb ram....I would
[08:48] <|rt|_> but again if you're just doing realtime models small textures then ram isn't
[08:50] <Martin^> and over to something completely different; do you remember to use q-tips?
[08:51] <|rt|_> like for your ears
[08:57] <Eagle_265> I agree 2009 sounds likely
[08:57] <Eagle_265> xp became stabil maybe a year back, before that I
[08:57] <Eagle_265> 'd consider it total crap
[08:57] <Eagle_265> nowadays it works realy realy nice though
[09:22] <WotGorila> hmmm guess you can't merge a max scene that has Particle flow in it
[09:22] <WotGorila> and you can't merge a scene with reactor
[09:22] <WotGorila> hmmm
[09:22] <WotGorila> that's nots good
[09:30] <mad_AFK> psst
[09:32] <AceOvArts> you can merge a max scene with PF..Im sure Ive done that
[09:37] <WotGorila> Hiya Mad
[09:38] <WotGorila> it seems to bring in each action as a seperate object
[09:38] <WotGorila> hmmm
[09:38] <WotGorila> shit, just hanging
[09:39] <WotGorila> not responding
[09:39] <WotGorila> :(
[09:39] <WotGorila> buming
[09:40] <WotGorila> Maya get crazy slow with particles too?
[09:42] <WotGorila> maybe I can merge a scene with reactor
[09:43] <mad_AFK> sorry.. was finishing up the sword
[09:43] <AceOvArts> depends on your particles I guess, maybe try turning off the sim before m
[09:44] <AceOvArts> if the PF is heavy and even the simplest PF is heavy, it does take a whil
[09:45] <mad_AFK> http://www.madkarma.com/show/soldier_wip_009.jpg
[09:45] * mad_AFK is now known as madkarma
[09:47] <Teflon_> oh yea,,,this is what i'm looking for...
[09:47] <madkarma> congratulations for finding it
[09:47] <Teflon_> bevel, extrude text tutorials in html on the web...can anyone help?
[09:47] <WotGorila> wow, nice sword mad
[09:47] <Teflon_> so am i...that I found this place.
[09:48] <jo3D> []'s
[09:48] <Teflon_> anyone can help me with this?
[09:49] <madkarma> im afraid not me.. i dont use max
[09:49] <madkarma> im a lw guy
[09:49] <madkarma> http://www.madkarma.com/show/soldier_wip_008.jpg
[09:49] <Teflon_> that's ok, I have not use lw in about 6 years..
[09:50] <Teflon_> i'm looking for tuts on bevel, extrude in 3dsmax.
[09:50] <AceOvArts> you pick text, use bevel and have bevelled text...its not that hard to be
[09:50] <Teflon_> html format.
[09:50] <AceOvArts> by playing for 5 mins you could work it out
[09:50] <Teflon_> that what I thought..
[09:50] <Teflon_> ok..cool beans...
[09:50] <AceOvArts> :D
[09:50] <Teflon_> I will give it a shot.
[09:53] <Teflon_> got to go, thx, I'm heading off to Mexico right now...see you all later, gl
[09:54] <AceOvArts> hehe
[09:54] <AceOvArts> just about to goto mexico and he is worrying about bevelling
[09:54] <AceOvArts> :)
[09:54] <AceOvArts> man...Id be sinking tequila like right now
[09:54] <Teflon_> no worried, just the info I find is written by morons...
[09:55] <AceOvArts> heh
[09:55] <Teflon_> I know what to do now,,so I will work on it later...
[09:55] <AceOvArts> fuck that, goto mexico score tequila and cocaine :P
[09:55] <AceOvArts> and whores of course...lol
[09:57] <madkarma> i hear you've got it down to an art
[09:57] <flashed> damn.. prison break.. wow.
[09:57] <AceOvArts> heeh
[09:57] <AceOvArts> whoring aint my thang but yanno
[10:03] <madkarma> since the twins im alergic to sex
[10:03] <AceOvArts> hehe...me too mate
[10:03] <AceOvArts> unless its with other women of course
[10:03] <madkarma> HAHAHAHA
[10:04] <AceOvArts> but that NEVER happens
[10:04] <madkarma> yeah .. ours cant be trusted
[10:04] <AceOvArts> I feel like I have a tattoo on my forhead saying "Married with 3 kids" on
[10:04] <AceOvArts> still, I am now an old bastard
[10:06] <madkarma> that tattoo.. i think i have the same one
[10:06] <madkarma> i guess it gets tatooed while you sleep
[10:06] <AceOvArts> its the wives that do it
[10:07] <madkarma> the mommy faery
[10:07] <AceOvArts> hehe
[10:08] <madkarma> she also steals your will to push an issue
[10:09] <AceOvArts> tis true
[10:10] <flashed> lol
[10:12] <madkarma> so.. whats next
[10:12] <madkarma> a musket i guess
[10:12] <|rt|_> so this is what I have to look forward to with married life
[10:12] <madkarma> yup
[10:12] <madkarma> but you get so much in return
[10:13] <|rt|_> wedding isn't until next Jan so I have time to run
[10:13] <flashed> get a mistress..
[10:13] <madkarma> the skill to say "yes, dear" in such a way she beleaves you listend to her
[10:16] <jo3D> iam having lot of troubles getting obj from maya to max
[10:16] <jo3D> any one give ideas to do this better
[10:16] <Tranqui|> whats the problem?
[10:16] <madkarma> what is going wrong ?
[10:17] <jo3D> meshes is always weird
[10:17] <madkarma> i just exported from lw to max via obj aswell
[10:17] <jo3D> obj
[10:17] <jo3D> worked nice?
[10:17] <jo3D> you did export from lw?
[10:17] <madkarma> and the surface name fuckes it up
[10:17] <jo3D> name?
[10:18] <jo3D> oh men
[10:18] <madkarma> a surface name becomes a part
[10:18] <jo3D> its being a nightmare
[10:18] <|rt|_> jo3D: why not use fbx
[10:19] <WotGorila> heh, seems like there should be a betetr universal export/import system
[10:20] <madkarma> fbx is suposed to work like that
[10:20] <madkarma> but it sucks for lw
[10:21] <flashed> try collada then..
[10:22] <madkarma> collada.. looking into that
[10:22] <madkarma> wot and me had problems with swapping files just yesterday
[10:22] <flashed> :)
[10:22] <flashed> collada is much more universal..
[10:23] <flashed> but that can be a issue also
[10:23] <WotGorila> had to import each part seperatly
[10:24] <madkarma> see this one yet? http://www.madkarma.com/show/soldier_wip_008.jpg
[10:25] <flashed> what kind of soldier?
[10:26] <WotGorila> heh, should upload the helmet to turbosquid, there is only one other like
[10:27] <flashed> madkarma: spanish soldier?
[10:27] <WotGorila> send you back a 3ds and Max version of it so you can upload those
[10:28] <WotGorila> 3ds seems to sell the best on turbosquid
[10:29] <madkarma> http://www.madkarma.com/show/soldier_wip_007.jpg
[10:29] <madkarma> yeah
[10:39] <jo3D> collada?
[10:40] <flashed> yup
[10:42] <jo3D> what that?
[10:42] <jo3D> conversion prog?
[10:42] <flashed> no
[10:42] <flashed> a file type..
[10:42] <jo3D> uhm
[10:42] <jo3D> never saw that
[10:43] <jo3D> maya dont export that
[10:52] <mcarp> yeah its a collaberated effort for an industry standard and yes it does expor
[10:54] <jo3D> tks
[10:56] <WotGorila> probably an addon
[10:56] <mcarp> plugin! yo!
[10:57] <WotGorila> :)
[11:00] <jo3D> http://www.feelingsoftware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&It
[11:01] <jo3D> collada
[11:01] <jo3D> http://www.multiverse.net/developer/newsletter/2006May/newsletter.html
[11:01] <jo3D> a pdf
[11:04] <mcarp> i think that's pay dirt jo3D!
[11:09] <Tranq|Wrk> whats this you are linking? a 3d format that is attempting to be a standa
[11:10] <Tranq|Wrk> is it a full scene project format? or object/mesh format?
[11:11] <Tranq|Wrk> obj does a pretty good job for single object/ geometry
[11:12] <WotGorila> nahh, just two max scenes
[11:12] <WotGorila> oops, sorrt ,wrong window
[11:13] <Tranqui|> ;)
[11:14] <jo3D> mcarp
[11:14] <jo3D> yes?
[11:14] <jo3D> :(((
[11:18] * ardworx is now known as ardwech
[11:33] <timbre_> http://66.232.104.203/~vidpipe3/comp/28xuqvi/wimdenhoscarpso_574.wmv <-
[11:49] <NiteLite> The exchange rate between NOK and USD hasnt been this low since the sevent
[11:51] <madkarma> so you are now gonny buy a hummer aswell ?
[11:51] <NiteLite> lol
[11:51] * jo3D anyone has collada for max and maya
[11:56] <flashed> www.collada.org
[11:57] <jo3D> yes
[11:57] <jo3D> i get it but someone told it doesnt work
[11:57] <jo3D> lol
[11:57] <jo3D> didnt try
[11:57] <jo3D> did you try?
[12:07] <Tranq|Wrk> anyone using nextlimit's maxwell renderer these days?.. ive been reading
[12:07] <Tranq|Wrk> i just imagine the way finale render and brasil etc use buckets/blocks to
[12:08] <ghib[2d]> i'd imagine it was more quality of image . rather than leaving gaps
[12:08] <madkarma> http://www.madkarma.com/show/soldier_wip_011.jpg
[12:09] <Tranq|Wrk> well thats pretty good, you can render out previews of lesser quality whi
[12:10] <Tranq|Wrk> if they bundled realflow and maxwell together for a cheaper price i think
[12:15] <sinn> Hiya!!
[12:15] <sinn> was ist los!!!
[12:15] <madkarma> hey
[12:15] <sinn> hey madkarma!
[12:15] <sinn> ltns
[12:15] <madkarma> you can say that again
[12:15] <sinn> ok
[12:15] <sinn> ltns
[12:16] <sinn> :)
[12:16] <madkarma> been a bit absent minded and absent
[12:16] <madkarma> but heeeee's back
[12:16] <sinn> absint?
[12:16] <sinn> ah. ok
[12:16] <madkarma> hehehe
[12:16] <Tranq|Wrk> abscent
[12:16] <madkarma> could be a reason aswell
[12:16] <sinn> Tranqui| is that what you think he mean?
[12:16] <madkarma> nice spelling tranq
[12:16] <sinn> abscent?
[12:16] <Tranq|Wrk> lol
[12:16] <Tranq|Wrk> absynth
[12:17] <madkarma> what can i say.. i suck at english
[12:17] <Tranq|Wrk> engrishy
[12:17] <sinn> whell, Tranqui| im multee linguahl
[12:17] <Tranq|Wrk> imma solo linquawl
[12:17] <sinn> sow low?
[12:17] <Tranq|Wrk> soe lo
[12:18] <sinn> soo-eeh loh
[12:18] <sinn> thats the name of some chinese guy
[12:18] <sinn> for sure
[12:18] <Tranq|Wrk> long duck dong
[12:18] <sinn> soo-eeh-loh
[12:18] <madkarma> or you just ordered dog with extra garlic
[12:19] <Tranq|Wrk> mmm poodle stirfry w/ lentils and waterchestnuts
[12:19] <sinn> yeah
[12:19] <sinn> cat
[12:19] <sinn> kitten tastes ok btw
[12:45] <Cpt|Kirk> Just checking in again... I am still learning XSI
[12:46] <WotGorila> I'm still learning Max
[12:46] <WotGorila> :)
[12:46] <WotGorila> been a few years now...does the learning ever stop?
[12:46] <soid___> no booleans
[12:46] <WotGorila> ;)
[12:47] <WotGorila> today I learned that I need more memory
[12:47] <WotGorila> ;)
[12:47] <ghib[2d]> i agree. i want to get to a stage with the programs i use where it becomes
[12:48] <WotGorila> I almost het to that point, and then they change everything and add a bun
[12:48] <WotGorila> :)
[12:48] <WotGorila> het = get
[12:49] <Cpt|Kirk> I was with MAX since 1997
[12:49] <Cpt|Kirk> No more for me.
[12:50] <soid___> me do for 3 years
[12:50] <soid___> but im a working poor
[12:50] <soid___> so there is not much time for max
[12:50] <soid___> so ill be noob till i die
[12:51] <soid___> ok enough whining
[12:54] <soid___> nobody loves me :(
[12:55] <Dr^G> I luv u mate
[12:55] <Dr^G> cheers
[12:56] <soid___> thank you i feel betta now
[12:57] <WotGorila> darn, got turned down on my bank loan for new gear
[12:58] <WotGorila> Policy not to give loans to anyone in the art field
[12:58] <WotGorila> That's a new one
[12:59] <WotGorila> iisn't there a law against that?
[12:59] <soid___> first cash then work thats what we do (architectur)
[13:00] <madkarma> odd policy
[13:00] <tek2> hello
[13:00] <WotGorila> heh, and I even did a 3d model of their bank for their TV commercials!
[13:00] <tek2> does anyone have a 3d model of a front doorknob
[13:01] <tek2> all my doorknob models are the regular type
[13:01] <tek2> spherical, or horizontal handle
[13:01] <tek2> i need an ornage vertical type
[13:01] <tek2> ornate*
[13:01] <tek2> turbosquid doesnt have this though
[13:02] <tek2> anyone? it would be much appreciated
[13:03] <tek2> no beer? what kind of nazi camp is this =p
[13:03] <sinn> hey
[13:03] <sinn> I can model one if you want
[13:03] <tek2> hey
[13:03] <tek2> hmmm
[13:03] <tek2> for free?
[13:03] <sinn> how much you wanna spend?
[13:03] <tek2> *nods* um
[13:03] <sinn> nah not for free
[13:03] <sinn> hehe
[13:04] <tek2> i might try modeling one myself i guess =p
[13:04] <sinn> hmm ok ;)
[13:04] <tek2> if it comes down to that hehe
[13:04] <sinn> *advanced way of encouraging* ;)
[13:04] <tek2> was hoping someone had one handy =p
[13:05] <tek2> we could have a contest and see who can make the best 3d doorknob, and i will
[13:05] <sinn> then we all are winners
[13:05] <tek2> how so =p
[13:05] <sinn> what doorknop you mean
[13:05] <sinn> just a doorknob?
[13:06] <sinn> round knob?
[13:06] <sinn> with keyhole?
[13:06] <tek2> an ornate front doorknob to a front french door
[13:06] <tek2> verticle handle type
[13:06] <tek2> with the thing you press down with your thummb
[13:06] <tek2> as you grab the handle with your fingers
[13:06] <tek2> that type
[13:06] <sinn> the handle?
[13:06] <tek2> lets say you walked up to a million dollar home
[13:06] <sinn> verticle you say..
[13:06] <tek2> they arent going to have a round doorknob at the entrance
[13:07] <tek2> thats the type of doorknob im talking about
[13:07] <sinn> pictures?
[13:08] <tek2> http://www.askthebuilder.com/artman/uploads/052.jpg
[13:08] <tek2> something like that
[13:08] <sinn> ah ok, with the shapes in it n al?
[13:09] <tek2> basically a plate with a thumb latch and curved handle
[13:10] <tek2> doesnt have to have all the ornate detail around the plate like in the picture
[13:11] <WotGorila> vote for pedro
[13:12] <tek2> if you did a really good one
[13:12] <tek2> i bet you could sell it online
[13:12] <sinn> I bet
[13:12] <sinn> to you for instance
[13:12] <tek2> i will be the judge =p
[13:13] <tek2> to see if its good enough for you to sell it to other people =p
[13:13] <tek2> hehe =p
[13:13] <tek2> you can let me use it royalty free =p
[13:13] <tek2> for commercial purposes =p
[13:13] <sinn> hehe sure
[13:13] <tek2> i didnt say i would pay for anything just to be clear =p
[13:14] <mcarp> thats...really not a huge task
[13:14] <tek2> i know
[13:14] <tek2> thats why if it came down to it i said i should probably model it myself =p
[13:15] <WotGorila> I'll do it right after I'm done with these iraq soldiers for this Cell ph
[13:15] <WotGorila> ;)
[13:15] <mcarp> so get to it
[13:15] <tek2> hehe
[13:15] <v0id`> lol
[13:15] <v0id`> i thought it was helicopters
[13:15] <v0id`> for the cell phone
[13:15] <WotGorila> ...for Jesus
[13:15] <WotGorila> oh yeah..and helicopters
[13:15] <WotGorila> Cause Jesus loves Helicopters
[13:16] <mcarp> PTL! amen!
[13:16] <tek2> how do you think he rose from the dead after all
[13:16] <mcarp> easy, they do it on tv all the time
[13:22] <tek2> i love parrays! :p
[13:23] <tek2> over 100 people and no one talks =p
[13:23] <tek2> i must smell
[13:23] <Mithandir> we aer like the wise old men on the top of the mountain
[13:23] <tek2> ah yes, like outsourced tech support =p
[13:23] <mcarp> lol'
[13:24] <Mithandir> which gives three interpretation: 1) We've achieved wisdom unending and s
[13:25] <tek2> im voting for #2
[13:25] <tek2> =p
[13:26] <tek2> what does the op have against beer is my question
[13:26] <tek2> i thought beer and porn go hand in hand =p
[13:27] <Mithandir> not the same hand tho, obviously
[13:27] <sik-style> Don't forget the paper towel.
[13:27] <mcarp> i think it goes along with the potential wisdom theory, that some other alcoh
[13:27] <sik-style> Beer is liquid bread.
[13:28] <mcarp> i suppose thats one....contorted....way to look at it
[13:28] <tek2> superior to beer? you guys need to get out more =p
[13:28] <sik-style> http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload6/american_psycho_6.jpg
[13:28] <sik-style> Heh. :p
[13:28] <sik-style> mcarp, do you do that? :P
[13:29] <tek2> haha
[13:29] <mcarp> do what?
[13:29] <sik-style> tek2, beer isn't the best alcoholic drink in the world.
[13:29] <sik-style> mcarp: http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload6/american_psycho_6.jpg
[13:29] <sik-style> Oh wait, maybe it was WotGorila.
[13:29] <tek2> well old milauwakee certainly isnt
[13:29] <tek2> but a fine grolsch lager or warsteiner goes a long way
[13:31] <mcarp> make no mistake, i like lost of different beers, but hey, asked a question i
[13:32] <tek2> yes well
[13:32] <tek2> i reset that beer is listed with such items such as macs =p
[13:32] <tek2> resent*
[13:32] <mcarp> why no warez should be obvious, why no macs is a personal preferene why no bo
[13:33] <tek2> you might as well say no weed either then =p
[13:33] <mcarp> may as wel
[13:34] <mcarp> i dont use it
[13:34] <tek2> because its not smothered in hash oil =p
[13:34] <tek2> well i dont use it either =p
[13:34] <tek2> it gives me heartburn =p
[13:36] <tek2> and go ahead and answer about no booleans =p
[13:36] <tek2> i use them too =p
[13:36] <mcarp> the problem comes with increases in complexity
[13:36] <tek2> nodnod
[13:36] <mcarp> ifyou do a boolean on a single triangle then its a non issue
[13:36] <mcarp> that is triangle bool anyothermesh
[13:37] <tek2> sometimes i use it to subtract a hole out of the ground though
[13:37] <mcarp> however, as you ramp up the cut complexity you quadrupaly increase the extra
[13:37] <tek2> which does create a lot more verts
[13:37] <tek2> but you would have had most of those verts anyway
[13:37] <mcarp> on the other hand, if poly count is not an issue then a boolean can be used t
[13:37] <tek2> poly count is always an issue :)
[13:38] <tek2> well i like to think so anyway =p
[13:38] <Piccy> amen
[13:38] <mcarp> you about double local vert counts when you do a clean manual cut, so no you
[13:38] <WotGorila> darn, need more memory
[13:38] <mcarp> the diagonal cutting is the problem
[13:38] <WotGorila> need another 2 gigs I guess to render this scene
[13:39] <tek2> WotGorila: you using the /3gig switch?
[13:39] <mcarp> for me poly count is always an issue because i like to do low poly count stuf
[13:39] <tek2> tells windows to allow xp to use 3 gigs instead of the max 1.5 alloted for 3d
[13:39] <tek2> if you are using xp
[13:40] <WotGorila> where is that?
[13:40] <tek2> you add /3gig into your boot.ini
[13:40] <mcarp> haha, yes i wish i had 3gigs of ram
[13:40] <tek2> i like to have a 3 second menu that pops up
[13:40] <tek2> i only have 2 gigs of ram
[13:40] <mcarp> ive got 512meg
[13:40] <tek2> but with the 3gig switch you use all 2 gigs
[13:40] <WotGorila> I have 2 now
[13:41] <tek2> without it windows only allots 1.5 max
[13:41] <tek2> even if you have 2
[13:41] <tek2> which causes my projects to crash sometimes
[13:41] <tek2> if im not using all 2
[13:41] <WotGorila> boot ini huh?
[13:41] <tek2> yeah
[13:42] <tek2> you know how to get to that?
[13:42] <tek2> right click my computer
[13:42] <tek2> system properties
[13:42] <tek2> advanced tab
[13:42] <tek2> startup and recovery -> settings
[13:43] <tek2> then click edit
[13:43] <tek2> and you can copy an entry and add /3gig to the 2nd entry
[13:43] <sik-style> My ram beats your ram. :>
[13:43] <sik-style> Total Physical Memory: 383 MB
[13:43] <sik-style> See? :p
[13:43] <tek2> ou la la =p
[13:44] <mcarp> ph334
[13:44] <WotGorila> hmmmm don't see anything listed about it
[13:44] <tek2> what do you mean
[13:45] <Dr_Rambo> heh
[13:46] <Lampwerk> WHATS SO FUNNY DR RAMBO?!
[13:46] <Lampwerk> WHAT IS SOO DAMN FUNNY?!
[13:46] <Lampwerk> >:O
[13:46] <Dr_Rambo> anti-idle command
[13:46] * Lampwerk is now known as lampchair
[13:46] <lampchair> xD
[13:46] <Dr_Rambo> what, I am not allow to laugh anymore?
[13:46] <lampchair> How you been ? :DD
[13:46] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[13:46] <Dr_Rambo> not bad, just reading news
[13:47] <lampchair> i just arrived at work, and im on irc lmao
[13:47] <Dr_Rambo> talk about news and freedom to laugh... looks like Bush is slowly but sure
[13:47] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/11/politics/main1609261.shtml
[13:47] <Dr_Rambo> now NSA is spying on EVERYONE
[13:48] <Mithandir> what do you mean now ?
[13:48] <tek2> lol
[13:48] <tek2> we need a law to empower congress
[13:49] <tek2> bush thinks hes in china or something =p
[13:49] <mcarp> i think the republicans have lost all forsight of smalling down govt. its th
[13:49] <tek2> but dont even get me started =p
[13:50] <tek2> woot 5 o clock
[13:50] <tek2> if this render would ever be done i could go home
[13:51] <lampchair> madness :X
[13:51] <lampchair> its not like its any useful
[13:51] <madkarma> hey lc
[13:51] <lampchair> !!! :DD
[13:51] <lampchair> Sups?!?! :DDD
[13:52] <madkarma> busy busy
[13:52] <lampchair> how's business :X
[13:52] <madkarma> modeling away
[13:52] <madkarma> bit quiet since i canceled a couple jobs
[13:52] <madkarma> i needed a bit of quiet time
[13:53] <madkarma> modeling some stuff to fill up a spanish galeon
[13:53] <madkarma> some people
[13:53] <lampchair> how does the martial arts thing doing?
[13:54] <madkarma> perfect
[13:55] <madkarma> having lots of fun with that
[13:55] <madkarma> new sword also feels great
[13:56] <lampchair> do you have vids ?
[13:57] <madkarma> of me making an ass of my self ?
[13:57] <lampchair> lol
[13:57] <madkarma> i think not :P
[13:57] <lampchair> noo, the martial art animation
[13:57] <lampchair> lol
[13:57] <lampchair> lmao
[13:57] <tek2> what you have motion capture?
[13:58] <madkarma> HAHAHAHAHA
[13:58] <tek2> :)
[13:58] <madkarma> its getting worse and worse
[13:59] <madkarma> i think there is a mix up there
[13:59] <madkarma> i do martial arts myself and nothing is getting animated as such
[14:00] <lampchair> i remember you posting pics of a cel-shaded martial arts dude kicking a b
[14:00] <lampchair> or perpahs im mistaken
[14:00] <sik-style> Memory Load: 30%
[14:01] <sik-style> CPU Load: 2%
[14:01] <sik-style> Hmm..
[14:01] <madkarma> not me
[14:01] <lampchair> !!
[14:02] <madkarma> http://www.madkarma.com/show/soldier_wip_007.jpg
[14:02] <madkarma> working on this
[14:02] <lampchair> nice
[14:03] <sik-style> No school tomorrow. \o/
[14:05] <Dr_Rambo> yeeeppee
[14:05] <lampchair> i got no school for the next 3 months xD
[14:05] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[14:05] <Dr_Rambo> ""We are aware what is going on in the world. Comrade wolf knows whom to e
[14:05] <Dr_Rambo> Russian President Vladimir Putin
[14:05] <Dr_Rambo>
[14:05] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[14:06] <lampchair> LOL
[14:06] <lampchair> Where didu get from?
[14:06] <Mithandir> is he talking about bush ?
[14:07] <lampchair> i think he's talking about the hairy minister of agitprop
[14:07] <Dr_Rambo> no idea
[14:08] <Dr_Rambo> it's on cbs
[14:08] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/10/world/main1605049.shtml
[14:08] <Dr_Rambo> don't know who he is refering to
[14:08] <lampchair> lol
[14:08] <lampchair> he's just like the iranian dude, uses metaphores so freely that no1 knows
[14:08] <Dr_Rambo> could be his political rival, could be Bush, could be his pet
[14:09] <Eagle_265> could be they're both idiots
[14:09] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[14:09] <Dr_Rambo> back to MAX
[14:10] <Eagle_265> though I'd guess bush is even more stupid
[14:10] <Dr_Rambo> Bush would probably say Comrade woof
[14:10] <lampchair> lol
[14:11] <lampchair> lol, Comrad woolf, FETCH!
[14:12] <NiteLite> I think that might be a poor translation
[14:13] <lampchair> now i know what im going to call my dog
[14:13] <lampchair> if im every gonna get one
[14:13] <NiteLite> Comrade Wolf :P
[14:13] <NiteLite> lol
[14:14] <Eagle_265> definetely
[14:14] <Eagle_265> no doubt
[14:15] <madkarma> free ref pictures for an african male
[14:15] <madkarma> any ideas
[14:16] <sik-style> Hekhek, I gave my cousins cat catnip.
[14:16] <sinn> big dong
[14:17] <lampchair> IT WAS YOU?!
[14:17] <lampchair> do you know how much catrehab costs?!
[14:17] <lampchair> there is an anotomy for the artist book
[14:17] <lampchair> it has some black dudes in it
[14:18] <sik-style> lampchair, not my problem. :p
[14:18] <lampchair> lol
[14:19] <lampchair> there is actully some1 here that has his own catnip grow operation
[14:19] <sinn> whats catnip?
[14:19] <lampchair> yes
[14:19] <lampchair> migee
[14:19] <lampchair> or something lol
[14:19] <sik-style> It's a flower. That cats go crazy over.
[14:19] <lampchair> yeah
[14:19] <sik-style> They start rubbing themselves and get all jumpy.
[14:19] <sinn> ah kattekruit
[14:20] <sinn> in dutch
[14:20] <sinn> you damn foreign guy
[14:20] <sinn> there
[14:20] <sinn> hehe
[14:20] <lampchair> lol
[14:20] <sik-style> :<
[14:22] <sinn> u know whats so funny..
[14:23] <sinn> in theory in orthographic view viewing a half mirror sphere, actually shows yo
[14:23] <lampchair> :X
[14:23] <sinn> so you actually see whats behind the sphere too
[14:24] <lampchair> lol
[14:24] <lampchair> im gonna try renering it
[14:24] <sinn> well ok its known already.
[14:24] <lampchair> brb
[14:24] <sinn> but you wouldnt expect it if you just see it
[14:26] <sik-style> sinn, how to get a nice realistic texture. Like floor texture?
[14:26] <sik-style> Everytime I try I get a dull one.
[14:26] <lampchair> confirmed
[14:27] <lampchair> lol
[14:28] <lampchair> ok, before my client finds out im rendering sphere in orthographic while
[14:28] <lampchair> i gotta go
[14:28] <sik-style> Haha. :p
[14:29] <sik-style> Have a nice rest of the day.
[14:29] <lampchair> thanks!
[14:29] <lampchair> you 2=]
[14:30] <sinn> sik-style I dont know
[14:31] <sinn> depends on what floor
[14:31] <sik-style> I'll look for tuts.
[14:45] <sik-style> wth! :(
[14:46] <sik-style> I am assigning a material to my plane which is the only object selected b
[14:46] <sik-style> Which is not selected.
[14:47] <sik-style> Ah nevermind, got it.
[15:01] <sik-style> Does anyone know anything about cameras?
[15:01] <sik-style> Not digital but recording.
[15:01] <sik-style> JVC is a good brand right?
[15:08] <reddino> !seen biibtkntm
[15:08] <mrHelpman> reddino, I don't remember seeing biibtkntm.
[15:08] <reddino> !seen segmental
[15:08] <mrHelpman> Segmental (megax@dsl254-114-118.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) was last seen qui
[15:09] <sik-style> !seen RyanKnope
[15:09] <mrHelpman> RyanKnope (RyanKnope@c-69-137-234-216.hsd1.md.comcast.net) was last seen
[15:59] * narcosys is now known as narc\afk
[17:04] <Tranqui|> where oh where has amigo gone, hehe i miss the times he actually typed in
[17:05] <Tranqui|> things were so much more active back in #3dstudio before max and during ma
[17:22] <Images> heh
[17:22] <Images> amigo isnt too much of a talker
[17:32] <davzie> FFS! Tried installing Mac OSx86 on my iPod, it pretty much killed it so afte
[18:09] <WotGorila> must have been a Mac virus
[18:09] <WotGorila> ;)
[18:25] * Ara_` is now known as Ara`
[18:55] <WotGorila> dran, guess I need more memory, won't render this scene and just tells me
[18:56] <WotGorila> Guess I need at least 4 gigs..if not more
[18:57] <Dr_Rambo> lol
[18:57] <Dr_Rambo> 4 gig
[18:57] <Tranqui|> im using a program to calculate a sun's position for my latitude/longitude
[18:59] <WotGorila> no idea
[19:00] <Tranqui|> messed up hehe
[19:00] <WotGorila> heh, I took out all the shadows and raytracing, effects and particles
[19:00] <WotGorila> heh
[19:01] <WotGorila> still says out of memory
[19:01] <WotGorila> christ
[19:01] <Tranqui|> ahh i figured it out
[19:01] <Tranqui|> if its 49 degrees 15' north , thats +49.15 , if its south its -49.15
[19:02] <Tranqui|> what are ya gettin memory errors on
[19:02] <Tranqui|> the render?
[19:02] <Tranqui|> hmm
[19:02] <WotGorila> yeah
[19:02] <Tranqui|> you have more then one drive in the machine? try settin up a new temp/scra
[19:02] <WotGorila> guess maybe I should get another drive
[19:03] <WotGorila> I have 100 gig free between the 2 drives
[19:04] <Tranqui|> id just try changing the drive ya swap to , incase its reading /writing sl
[19:22] <UTitan2> !seen amakay
[19:22] <mrHelpman> UTitan2, I don't remember seeing amakay.
[19:22] <sik-style> Damn texturing is a hard job. =/
[19:22] <UTitan2> !seen amckay
[19:22] <mrHelpman> amckay (a@102.31.138.58.dy.bbexcite.jp) was last seen quitting from #3dsm
[19:23] <reddino> he is doing superman
[19:23] <reddino> busy busy
[19:23] <sik-style> superman?
[19:23] <sik-style> A movie?
[19:23] <reddino> returns
[19:23] <reddino> superman returns yes the movie
[19:23] <reddino> haha
[19:23] <sik-style> You're lying. :p
[19:24] <reddino> allan mckay is doing particles there
[19:24] <sik-style> There is a movie "Superman Returns" :O
[19:24] <reddino> omg do you have a tv ?
[19:24] <reddino> hahah
[19:25] <sik-style> imdb. :p
[19:25] <Dr_Rambo> Superman return from japan?
[19:25] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[19:25] <Dr_Rambo> I didn't know Japanese had a superman
[19:25] <reddino> oh well they do
[19:25] <reddino> they have spiderman too
[19:25] <sik-style> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/
[19:26] <reddino> there
[19:26] <Dr_Rambo> so, erm, this movie is from erm.. japan?
[19:26] <reddino> www.imdb.com/name/nm1905741
[19:26] <Dr_Rambo> maybe their Superman wear rubber suit
[19:26] <reddino> Allan McKay ( Superman Returns (2006) (completed) (technical director) _
[19:27] <Dr_Rambo> why is he in japan
[19:27] <reddino> yeah he moved to japan with superman
[19:27] <Dr_Rambo> lol
[19:27] <reddino> cause america is just too much death
[19:27] <reddino> america = death
[19:27] <reddino> hahaha
[19:28] <sik-style> http://freenet.am/~chip/images/News/allan/allan.JPG this is him?
[19:28] <reddino> yes
[19:28] <reddino> haehehah
[19:28] <WotGorila> yeah, we need to allow more beheadings, subway, train and Bus Bombings an
[19:28] <WotGorila> ;)
[19:28] <reddino> hell yeah
[19:28] <reddino> (:
[19:28] <mcarp> http://mcarp.earthstorm.com/reel/robot/index.php?showimage=robot-007.jpg&scre
[19:29] <mcarp> redid the feet, thumbs, added rotating thigh and upper arm joints, rerigged
[19:30] <tekoness> uhm
[19:30] <tekoness> his right hand
[19:31] <tekoness> isnt his thumb on the wrong side
[19:31] <mcarp> lol, you know yer right, but he has 180degree thumb rotation
[19:32] <tekoness> even so the thumbs root should be on the other side
[19:32] <mcarp> but it was a posing mistake
[19:32] <mcarp> well this robot has a thumb mechanism that is able to go totally from one sid
[19:32] <mcarp> by design
[19:32] <mcarp> however, yes, it was a posing mistake for that picture
[19:35] * segamI is now known as Images
[19:36] <mcarp> http://mcarp.earthstorm.com/reel/robot/index.php?showimage=robot-008.jpg&scre
[19:38] <tekoness> in any case
[19:38] <tekoness> decent texturing
[19:38] <tekoness> not so good model
[19:39] <mcarp> dude. its a retro robot man
[19:39] <tekoness> well what do you want critiques on
[19:40] <Tranqui|> lol
[19:40] <Tranqui|> model is a little low on the detail side of things
[19:40] <sik-style> For what it's worth, I'd hit it.
[19:41] <Tranqui|> lol
[19:41] <Tranqui|> hahaha
[19:41] <tekoness> hit it with a bath
[19:41] <tekoness> bat
[19:46] <mcarp> oh haha, you didnt even noticed that i rotated the wrist out of socket
[19:46] <mcarp> yeah i want crits thankyou sir
[19:47] <mcarp> just you know, who you gunna share with
[19:48] * NiteLite is now known as nitelite
[19:48] <sik-style> Will you animate it?
[19:48] <mcarp> yeah its gunna get a lot of animation
[19:49] <mcarp> i havent done a lot of animation so, here's my chance to practice
[19:49] <sik-style> Omg, make it chop off someones head!
[19:49] <mcarp> well er...that wasnt on the top of my list :)
[19:49] <sik-style> With that detachable hand of his.
[19:49] <sik-style> :p
[19:49] <sik-style> What are you going to make it to do? Your chores? :p
[19:50] <sik-style> That'd be cool actually.
[19:51] <sik-style> :o
[19:51] <sik-style> I just got an idea what to model next.
[19:51] <sik-style> A ka-ka-ka-katana.
[19:52] <sik-style> I still need to finish my hover cruiser though. But I need to think about
[19:52] <sik-style> And I suck at it now so.
[19:53] <sik-style> Ok. I really need to urinate. brb.
[19:56] <sik-style> Back.
[19:56] <sik-style> :p
[20:05] <mcarp> sik-style: in lieu of chopping of somebody's head, how about konking SELF on
[20:05] <mcarp> http://mcarp.earthstorm.com/reel/robot/index.php?showimage=robot-010.jpg&scre
[20:10] <WotGorila> ;)
[20:10] <mcarp> i think my bot has been drinking
[20:10] <sik-style> Haha, mcarp. :D
[20:11] <WotGorila> yeah, I think I'm almost there
[20:11] <WotGorila> damn, this scene was the hardest thing I've done yet
[20:12] <mcarp> sshot me
[20:12] <sik-style> Me too.
[20:13] <WotGorila> I would look, but I'm afraid to open a browser and crash max
[20:13] <WotGorila> heh
[20:13] <mcarp> lol
[20:13] <mcarp> which scene is this then?
[20:13] <sik-style> Save before. :p
[20:13] <mcarp> we'll settle for text
[20:14] <WotGorila> shipwreck scene in the hurricane
[20:14] <lampchair> lol vray is cool
[20:14] <sik-style> lol fo' real?
[20:15] <lampchair> xD
[20:15] <lampchair> Sik!!
[20:15] <lampchair> sup
[20:15] <sik-style> :D
[20:15] <lampchair> wut u been doing ?
[20:15] <lampchair> show me some renderzings!
[20:15] <sik-style> Nothing much, messing around in max's textures and mapping them.
[20:15] <sik-style> I so suck. :(
[20:16] <sik-style> No new renderzings. :p
[20:16] * lampchair points and laughs
[20:16] <lampchair> ;)
[20:16] <sik-style> Though I came up with a new idea what to model.
[20:16] <sik-style> A katana.
[20:16] <lampchair> Nice
[20:16] <sik-style> It should be fairly easy. :p
[20:16] <lampchair> indeed
[20:16] <lampchair> wut method r u going to use to model it?
[20:16] <sik-style> How was your rest of the day?
[20:16] * Jaka| is now known as Jakal
[20:17] <sik-style> Out of boxes, if you mean that. :p
[20:17] <lampchair> :D
[20:17] <sik-style> Editable poly and just move stuff here and there. :p
[20:17] <lampchair> then smooth it up abit with meshsmooth xD
[20:17] <sik-style> That's how it works in my head.
[20:17] <lampchair> define curves
[20:17] <lampchair> voila
[20:17] <lampchair> You think like a cgdude!
[20:17] <lampchair> Congrats!
[20:18] <sik-style> \o/ :D
[20:18] <lampchair> dont be surpised when you'll wake up and start seeing wireframe in everyd
[20:18] <sik-style> Haha, that be cool. :p
[20:19] <sik-style> See women like that. :D
[20:19] <lampchair> and then, you're going to end up going out with this gorgious girl, and y
[20:19] <lampchair> lol
[20:19] <WotGorila> look at an ocean and say to yourself, mmm wonder what setting God made on
[20:19] <lampchair> lmao
[20:19] <WotGorila> ;)
[20:20] <sik-style> And what renderer. :p
[20:20] <lampchair> lolz
[20:20] <lampchair> you;re gonna start looking at reflections trying to do backward rayraces
[20:20] <WotGorila> While everyone is taking pictures of the the scenery, you are out in the
[20:20] <lampchair> LMAO!!!!!
[20:21] <lampchair> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[20:21] <lampchair> SO TRUE
[20:21] <sik-style> Hahah.
[20:21] <WotGorila> or your on the beach taking picture of sand, and people come over and won
[20:22] <lampchair> LOL
[20:22] <WotGorila> and walk away and go...uh ok
[20:22] <WotGorila> I always get those looks
[20:23] <lampchair> lol
[20:23] <WotGorila> like lastweekend at Mystic Seport, takjing pictures of the the wood hull,
[20:23] <WotGorila> heh
[20:23] <lampchair> lol
[20:23] <lampchair> i try to do it when no1's looking
[20:24] <lampchair> or staring at a tree for like 10 minutes non stop
[20:24] <WotGorila> darn, looks liek reactor isn't liking the ship moving in the waves
[20:25] <lampchair> aww
[20:25] <WotGorila> hmmm didn't get all those interpenatraions before when it wasn't moving
[20:25] <sik-style> I've never taken pics outside for textures, because I haven't been around
[20:25] <sik-style> Should I?
[20:26] <sik-style> Hey that's a great idea!
[20:26] <lampchair> lol.. it will come
[20:26] <lampchair> dont force it
[20:26] <WotGorila> always comes in handy
[20:26] <sik-style> I can go to the beach and get hot chicks model for me, I'll say it's for
[20:26] <lampchair> try the gym
[20:26] <lampchair> works too
[20:26] <lampchair> even better
[20:26] <lampchair> its open all year long
[20:26] <sik-style> Ooh sweaty women.
[20:26] <sik-style> :p
[20:27] <sik-style> Man, how long did it take you to figure out what 80% of maps do in materi
[20:28] <mcarp> er, read the help files?
[20:28] <lampchair> experiment with em, you'll end up probebly just using 5 of them
[20:28] <mcarp> look up terms in on line dictionaries?
[20:28] <WotGorila> yeah
[20:29] <sik-style> But isn't experimenting the best way to go?
[20:29] <lampchair> well, you gotta balance knowledge with experimentation
[20:29] <WotGorila> you can only do that so much
[20:29] <lampchair> its like taking chem, and dumping everyhing in a single bucket
[20:29] <mcarp> sure but one should always arm one's self with good definitions, but yes alwa
[20:30] <WotGorila> you'll spend enough time tweaking
[20:30] <mcarp> you can limit experimentation to that which is useful if you have previously
[20:30] <lampchair> omgs im still running sp2 at home :(
[20:31] <WotGorila> 14% yea
[20:31] <lampchair> http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=7176150&
[20:31] <sik-style> I have max 7
[20:31] <sik-style> Max 8 is better?
[20:31] <sik-style> More materials?
[20:32] <UTitan2> no but its better.
[20:32] * UTitan2 is now known as UTitan
[20:32] <WotGorila> pro booleans actually works the way you think Booleans should
[20:34] <lampchair> lol
[20:34] <lampchair> More materials xD
[20:34] <lampchair> UTtsss :DDDD
[20:34] <lampchair> Sup bro
[20:35] <sik-style> lampchair, what are you working on at work?
[20:36] <mcarp> pro booleans??
[20:36] <mcarp> whats the diff?
[20:36] <mcarp> and where the heck is it
[20:36] <sik-style> Then this means there are newb booleans.:o
[20:36] <lampchair> i work for a mad inventor :X
[20:37] <lampchair> in his basment
[20:37] <sik-style> Ooh, neat.
[20:37] <sik-style> Does he make you work naked?
[20:37] <lampchair> sometimes..
[20:37] <sik-style> Aw. :(
[20:37] <WotGorila> oh, did they not include it with ver 8.3?
[20:37] <lampchair> naw, but his wife poped a banana shaped dildo out of nowhere one day.
[20:37] <WotGorila> Maybe it's just still a subscriber thing
[20:38] <flashed> power booleans?
[20:38] <flashed> yup
[20:38] <lampchair> she said she never used it, and she got it as a gift
[20:38] <mcarp> i dunno i havent installed any service packs yet
[20:38] <sik-style> Ouch, lampchair. :p
[20:38] <flashed> subscrivers only..
[20:38] <lampchair> it was quite funny actully
[20:38] <sik-style> Did she use it on you? :p
[20:38] <lampchair> i'd use it on her, she's actully an amateur model
[20:39] <sik-style> Omg, invite me over!
[20:39] <lampchair> she's russian
[20:39] <sik-style> :o
[20:41] <Method404> helluz
[20:41] <lampchair> HELLO METHOD SIR sir
[20:41] <flashed> hehe
[20:41] <WotGorila> hiya meth
[20:42] <Method404> WOT!
[20:42] <Method404> FLASHED!
[20:42] <flashed> method!
[20:42] <flashed> sup?
[20:42] <Method404> LAMP!
[20:42] <WotGorila> How goes it?
[20:42] <Method404> Nadda
[20:42] <Method404> you?
[20:42] <flashed> hangover..
[20:42] <Method404> w00t
[20:42] <flashed> tru
[20:42] <flashed> and thats how i'll be the whole next week..
[20:42] <WotGorila> 36% yeaaaa
[20:42] <Method404> w00t
[20:42] <flashed> drunk & hangover..
[20:43] <flashed> student festival about to start.. w00t
[20:44] <flashed> and u? modeling? animating?
[20:44] <sik-style> We are having a naked fest.
[20:45] <sik-style> It's really amazing.
[20:45] <sik-style> =p
[20:46] <sik-style> Vanna join in?
[20:46] <lampchair> lol
[20:46] <lampchair> lets all get naked and chat on mirc
[20:46] <flashed> sure..
[20:46] <sik-style> It'd get rid of your hangover.
[20:46] <lampchair> indeed
[20:47] <sik-style> lamp is having fun with a banana shaped dildo that his boss's wife took o
[20:47] <sik-style> Vanna borrow it?
[20:47] <sik-style> =p
[20:47] <lampchair> i tried to spend a whole sunday naked one day, but i failed :((
[20:47] <sik-style> I was naked in the shower.
[20:47] <sik-style> Does that count? :p
[20:47] <flashed> sure
[20:49] <sik-style> I'd like to spend a day nikid and wikid one day.
[20:49] <sik-style> -one day.
[20:49] <sik-style> When I get my own apartment then I will.
[20:50] <sik-style> Then after that I'll go streaking. \o/
[20:52] <WotGorila> Shit, I can even get naked in the bathroom
[20:52] <WotGorila> never buy a house with one bathroom
[20:53] <WotGorila> can = Can't
[20:53] <sik-style> Why, WotGorila?
[20:53] <sik-style> Lock the door.
[20:53] <sik-style> Get your wife in there too.
[20:54] <sik-style> Do some coochy coohy.
[20:54] <sik-style> coochy*
[20:54] <WotGorila> usually I got my sister and her sisters in there doing their hair or make
[20:54] <WotGorila> and my wife
[20:54] <WotGorila> no peace
[20:54] <WotGorila> except for the office
[20:55] <WotGorila> hmmmm
[20:55] <WotGorila> maybe I need a bed pan
[20:55] <WotGorila> heh
[20:55] <WotGorila> and a moist towlet
[20:55] <lampchair> wuts a bed pan?
[20:55] <WotGorila> heh
[20:55] <sik-style> A pan in a bed.
[20:55] <sik-style> God knows for what.
[20:55] <WotGorila> Those things at the hospital they put under ya when you can't get up
[20:56] <sik-style> Maybe WotGorila is trying to fry an egg using body heat.
[20:56] <sik-style> Imagine that.
[20:56] <WotGorila> heh
[20:56] <WotGorila> or lay one
[20:56] <sik-style> WotGorila, build an underground secret shower.
[20:56] <sik-style> And get down and dirty in it.
[20:56] <sik-style> Ooh, now if you lay an egg I will have to marry you.
[20:56] <sik-style> =p
[20:57] <sik-style> Mmmmaybe not. :p
[20:58] <WotGorila> someday I'll get a new place
[20:59] <WotGorila> just waiting for the housing bubble to burst
[20:59] <WotGorila> everything is over a million around here
[20:59] <WotGorila> sucks
[20:59] <sik-style> By golly!
[20:59] <sik-style> Rob a bank.
[21:00] <sik-style> Like "Fun with Dick and Jane"
[21:00] <sik-style> :p
[21:00] <WotGorila> heh
[21:01] <sik-style> Btw, what does bridge do in max?
[21:01] <WotGorila> 2 bed room, 1 bathroom down the road sold for $745,000
[21:01] <sik-style> :S
[21:01] <WotGorila> and the guy bulldozed it
[21:01] * Arielana is now known as Arie|Zzz
[21:01] <Arie|Zzz> n8n8
[21:01] <flashed> lol...
[21:01] <WotGorila> http://www.davies-davies.com/ShowHome.cfm?id=450
[21:02] * lampchair is now known as lampawy
[21:03] <WotGorila> They raised the taxes on everyone by 300% to try to get everyone to move
[21:03] <WotGorila> in just propery tax
[21:03] <sik-style> WotGorila, I live in a 2 room apartment (1 living room, 1 small bedroom,
[21:04] <sik-style> And what do I get to put my personal stuff in? 2, 2ft x 1,5ft drawers.
[21:04] <WotGorila> ouch
[21:05] <WotGorila> I lived in my car for 2 years, so I know how that is
[21:05] <sik-style> Place for clothes? A box to put my socks, boxers, undershirts in and a ve
[21:05] <sik-style> But atleast your car was more private. :p
[21:05] <sik-style> And you didn't have any teenages jumping about.
[21:06] <flashed> i wouldnt mind to have a 18 yr old girl in my house :D
[21:06] <sik-style> By golly it's hell. :(
[21:07] <flashed> heheh i bet it is..
[21:07] <flashed> girls are 3vil..
[21:07] <sik-style> Yeah, flashed, I wouldn't either, but the fact that she is my cousin ruin
[21:10] <sik-style> But...
[21:10] <sik-style> 33days 23hrs 48mins 49secs until June 15 2006 [Leaving U.S.A (Yess!)]
[21:11] <flashed> sik-style: to where?
[21:11] * ardwech is now known as ardworx
[21:11] <sik-style> I've been living like this for 2 years I am sure I can take another 33 da
[21:11] <sik-style> Back to my home, to Estonia.
[21:11] <flashed> :)
[21:11] * ardworx is now known as ardreams
[21:12] <sik-style> I can't wait.
[21:12] <flashed> is Estonia one of the new E.U. countries?
[21:12] <sik-style> Yeap.
[21:12] <flashed> welcome then :P
[21:12] <sik-style> Where do you live?
[21:12] <flashed> Portugal
[21:12] <sik-style> EU as well?
[21:12] <ardreams> where is estonia??
[21:13] <flashed> sure :P
[21:13] <ardreams> estland?
[21:13] <flashed> ardreams: Europe
[21:13] <ardreams> sure
[21:13] <sik-style> No, Estonia. It's right under Finland.
[21:13] <ardreams> bur where?
[21:13] <ardreams> ah
[21:13] <ardreams> yes its estland in german
[21:13] <sik-style> Do you like the EU, flashed?
[21:13] <sik-style> Ah.
[21:13] <flashed> cool things.. bad things..
[21:14] <ardreams> our girls are teh hottest!!!
[21:14] <WotGorila> living in the states can be rough
[21:14] <sik-style> European girls > american girls.
[21:14] <sik-style> For sure!
[21:14] <sik-style> :p
[21:14] <ardreams> !!!!!!
[21:14] <flashed> heheh
[21:14] <WotGorila> It's definatly not like what you see on TV
[21:14] <sik-style> Yeah, WotGorila, especially when you're illegal. :p
[21:14] <ardreams> arie sleeps so we can say that :P
[21:14] <WotGorila> actually, you got it made then!
[21:15] <WotGorila> :)
[21:15] <sik-style> What made? :p
[21:15] <WotGorila> Bush is going to grant you amesty
[21:15] <WotGorila> heh
[21:15] <ardreams> haha
[21:15] <WotGorila> As long as you pay back the taxes
[21:15] <flashed> lol
[21:15] <flashed> WotGorila: no way.. he doesnt talk mexican...
[21:15] <WotGorila> crazy world
[21:15] <sik-style> Hah, when will that be. :p
[21:16] <sik-style> It'll be a while untill his ideas go on Florida.
[21:16] <WotGorila> yeah
[21:16] <WotGorila> nothing ever gets done right
[21:16] <ardreams> what is it about bushs brother?
[21:17] <sik-style> I didn't even know Bush had a brother. :p
[21:17] <flashed> its the begining of a dictatorship..
[21:17] <ardreams> never heared of him until bush offered him for president
[21:17] <WotGorila> They are in the same clan as the Bilderbergs, like Kerry and Clinton
[21:17] <sik-style> And WotGorila, even if he passes the law that illegal people will get cit
[21:17] <ardreams> dynasty thingy yes?
[21:17] <sik-style> This is way too simple.
[21:17] <WotGorila> Blair
[21:17] <flashed> theres a theory that says bush is puppeted by nazis..
[21:18] <ardreams> hrhr
[21:18] <WotGorila> Yeah, The big money in Europe actually controls the USA
[21:18] <ardreams> 4 sure
[21:18] <flashed> WotGorila: i doubt it..
[21:18] <flashed> big money like what?
[21:18] <ardreams> adolf hitler chills in chile everyone knows that :P
[21:19] <WotGorila> Well, it's bigger than the Nazis
[21:19] <flashed> ardreams: hitler maybe not.. but a lot of top nazi dudes flew to south amer
[21:19] <sik-style> See, US used to be the "Land of opportunity" but that was 10-15 years ago
[21:19] <sik-style> Europe and Asia.
[21:19] <WotGorila> Do a search on Bilderberg
[21:19] <WotGorila> ;)
[21:19] <flashed> sik-style: more Asia.. they are getting the top economy..
[21:20] <sik-style> Only because they produce so many goods.
[21:20] <WotGorila> http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html that will scare the hell out of ya
[21:20] <WotGorila> ;)
[21:20] <WotGorila> You do know Bush and Kerry were in the Skull and Bones?
[21:21] <ardreams> we dont notice that here :P
[21:21] <WotGorila> Didn't matter who won last election, they won no matter what
[21:21] <flashed> WotGorila: thats the cremation of care video?
[21:21] <WotGorila> ;)
[21:21] <WotGorila> With Walter Cronkite I think
[21:21] <flashed> i see u carry on amigo's work :)
[21:21] <WotGorila> been years since I seen it
[21:22] <WotGorila> Watched a few History Channel shows on Bilderberg and Skull and Bones, pr
[21:22] <WotGorila> I try not to think about it
[21:22] <ardreams> me too
[21:22] <WotGorila> it will just drive you nuts
[21:23] <ardreams> there is a lot of stuff like this
[21:23] <ardreams> u better not think about :P
[21:23] <ardreams> i gave a book about this topic to a friend
[21:24] <WotGorila> Nothing you can do about it anyways
[21:24] <ardreams> he got a "psychose" called in german
[21:24] <ardreams> yes thats the point
[21:24] <ardreams> u do nothing
[21:24] <ardreams> trying to make the best of it :P
[21:24] <flashed> tru..
[21:24] <flashed> if u cant fight it.. join them :D
[21:25] <WotGorila> heh
[21:25] <ardreams> hrhr
[21:25] <flashed> i'm thinking of starting a secret society.. any one wanna join?
[21:26] <flashed> we could manipulate peoples minds by adding subcounscious frames into anima
[21:26] <ardreams> sure lets start 3d freimaueretum
[21:26] <WotGorila> heh
[21:26] <flashed> english please
[21:26] <ardreams> i dont know this word in english :P
[21:27] <flashed> fraternity?
[21:27] <ardreams> http://www.freimaurer.org/vgl/index.htm
[21:27] <ardreams> they are doing stuff like we talk about since ever :P
[21:27] <flashed> ahh
[21:27] <flashed> mansonary?
[21:27] <flashed> yup...
[21:28] <flashed> we got them too
[21:28] <ardreams> sure u got them ^^
[21:28] <flashed> all presidents of Portugal are on it..
[21:28] <WotGorila> heh, but we have to have a wild ceramony like this http://www.infowars.c
[21:29] <flashed> the cremation of extrude?
[21:29] * lampawy is now known as LAMPWAY
[21:29] <WotGorila> with our own Printed Napkin
[21:29] <WotGorila> LOL
[21:29] <WotGorila> Sacrifice 3d models
[21:29] <WotGorila> To Turbosquid
[21:29] <WotGorila> heh
[21:29] <ardreams> lol
[21:30] * LAMPWAY is now known as lampaway
[21:30] <flashed> not real models of course..
[21:30] <flashed> just mocking models..
[21:31] <flashed> a billboard with a render :D
[21:32] <WotGorila> They deleted my Ultra high res.....2 million poly Box I was selling for $
[21:32] <ardreams> omfg
[21:34] <flashed> lol
[21:34] <flashed> really?
[21:35] <WotGorila> yeah, they sent me a letter saying they appreciated the joke but had to t
[21:35] <flashed> hhee :)
[21:36] <ardreams> lol
[21:36] <WotGorila> I was bitching on the forum about prices for some stuff being crazy, and
[21:36] * ardreams takes off his aluminum helmet
[21:36] <ardreams> good night
[21:36] <flashed> gn
[21:36] <WotGorila> Nite
[21:37] <flashed> i wonder if this so called secret society is yet to be incented..
[21:37] <flashed> *invented
[21:40] <WotGorila> yeah...it's called Pixar
[21:40] <WotGorila> ;)
[21:41] <flashed> hhee
[21:42] <sik-style> What is a sharper reflect map than falloff?
[21:45] <flashed> sharper?
[21:45] <sik-style> Oh, I didn't notice I had falloff type on fresnel. :p
[21:45] <sik-style> I am good now. :)
[22:35] <sik-style> I want something to be engraved on a polygon of an object.
[22:35] <sik-style> But I do not want to ruin the material for it.
[22:36] <sik-style> What should I do?
[22:39] <flashed> went to see m:i:3
[22:39] <flashed> the vfx kick ass
[22:39] <flashed> u surely dont see them :D
[22:39] <flashed> aka invisible :)
[22:40] <sik-style> vfx?
[22:40] <flashed> visual effects
[22:40] <sik-style> Ooh.
[22:40] <sik-style> Aren't you supposed to see them?
[22:40] <flashed> hehe
[22:41] <flashed> u see them but u dont actually notice they are vfx
[22:41] <flashed> wb meth
[22:44] <sik-style> Why do I always think of chrystal meth when Method404 comes online. :P
[22:45] <flashed> lol
[22:45] <WotGorila> Guess I'll come in and hang with you fine people tonight while I wait a f
[22:45] <WotGorila> ;)
[22:46] <WotGorila> anything new and exciting?
[22:47] <WotGorila> nothing huh
[22:47] <WotGorila> ;)
[22:48] <flashed> not much
[22:49] <WotGorila> nothing on TV either
[22:49] <flashed> was saying that the m:i:3 vfx look amazingly invisible :D
[22:49] <spratt> hiya all
[22:49] <flashed> the only tv i watch is HDTVrip.. the LOL channel :)
[22:49] <sik-style> WotGorila, you can help me with one thing. :P
[22:49] <WotGorila> did they kill off tom?
[22:49] <WotGorila> I can try
[22:50] <WotGorila> I suck at telling people how to use max ...it's like when people ask me w
[22:50] <sik-style> See I want to add engraved text and a sign to this polygon. I am preparin
[22:50] <sik-style> Black or white?
[22:51] <sik-style> So what I am going to do with this pic is bump it.
[22:51] <WotGorila> are you putting an alpha channel on it?
[22:51] <sik-style> And hopefully I get it to be where I want it to be.
[22:51] <sik-style> Alpha channel?
[22:52] <sik-style> No, no alpha channel.
[22:52] <WotGorila> ahhh, I don't know...I guess what ever you want
[22:52] <timbre> anyone knows urls to experimental 3D gfx research topics ?
[22:52] <WotGorila> Black areas are low areas by default
[22:52] <sik-style> Ok. Good. I'll go with it then.
[22:53] <WotGorila> unless you invert it
[22:53] <mcarp> 128 is bump neutral isnt it?
[22:53] <flashed> hum..
[22:54] <flashed> dunno if bump has a neutral..
[22:54] <mcarp> well i suppose its all relative
[22:54] <flashed> yup
[22:54] <WotGorila> 128 would be just it's half way point of the bump
[22:55] <WotGorila> ;)
[22:55] <flashed> yup
[22:55] <spratt> just showing off some new work of ours.. www.digital-montage.com/demoreel -
[22:55] <flashed> fuck :d
[22:56] <flashed> sweeet work
[22:56] <spratt> thanks mate
[22:56] <flashed> what u use to model it?
[22:56] <WotGorila> nice
[22:56] <spratt> all Maya..
[22:56] <WotGorila> I should Finish my model of Albany someday
[22:56] <spratt> started as photogrametry using Photomodeler, then taken into Maya to do the
[22:57] <flashed> i see
[22:57] <WotGorila> But security didn't like me taking so many pictures of federal buildings
[22:57] <flashed> but no textures?
[22:57] <WotGorila> Like that photomodeler?
[22:57] <spratt> nah, this was a pure modeling project
[22:58] <spratt> the cathedral would have got really pissy with me, if I took the time with a
[22:58] <spratt> photomodeler is really great for photogrametry
[22:59] <spratt> bloody CGTalk won't let me post it there though :(
[22:59] <flashed> why?
[23:00] <spratt> because it isnt sodding textured!!
[23:00] <WotGorila> yeah, looks kewl, have to try that out, I was doing the Whole Capital of
[23:00] <spratt> cgtalk has got rediculous.. they dont consider artwork finished, if it isnt
[23:00] <WotGorila> http://www.adirondack.net/history/whitesel/albany/albanyrender.jpg some
[23:00] <spratt> looking good WotGorila
[23:00] <WotGorila> http://www.adirondack.net/history/whitesel/albany/albanyrender4.jpg
[23:01] <flashed> nice
[23:01] <WotGorila> http://www.adirondack.net/history/whitesel/albany/albanyrender7.jpg
[23:01] <WotGorila> heh
[23:01] <WotGorila> someday
[23:02] <spratt> takes time :D
[23:02] <WotGorila> http://www.adirondack.net/history/whitesel/albany/walkway3.jpg
[23:02] <mcarp> sigh....yes one day we'll all be...er, somewhere
[23:02] <WotGorila> yeah
[23:02] <WotGorila> heh
[23:03] <spratt> its bloody hard finding artists that do environments these days
[23:04] <mcarp> sprat that good looking cathedral, try on this low poly one: http://mcarp.e
[23:04] <mcarp> well, relatively low compared to yours
[23:04] <WotGorila> I need to model like you mcarp, so I don't have to wait forever on my cra
[23:04] <WotGorila> LOL
[23:05] <mcarp> heh
[23:05] <WotGorila> http://www.adirondack.net/history/3dhistory/fortti25.jpg
[23:05] <mcarp> yeah the entire building is about 600k faces assembled, its relatively low po
[23:06] <WotGorila> nice
[23:06] <mcarp> im fairly jealous of some of you architects i might add
[23:06] <mcarp> but ive always shot for game poly counts
[23:06] <mcarp> ive only recently started into somewhat higher face counts
[23:06] <mcarp> but i still have huge amounts to learn
[23:06] <spratt> its fun doing architecture.. i work in games during the day, but enjoy doing
[23:06] <WotGorila> well, I've turned down a few big jobs at some big architecture companies,
[23:07] <mcarp> gets tuff on this sempron when the counts get high
[23:08] <mcarp> i have to do a lot of hiding and waiting
[23:08] <WotGorila> I just can't see me driving an hour to work every morning in bumber to bu
[23:08] <mcarp> nope, that would not be me either
[23:08] <WotGorila> I think that's what hell looks like
[23:08] <WotGorila> ;)
[23:08] <mcarp> sure i'd love to get paid, but i do it because i love to do it
[23:08] <mcarp> yeah commuting is hell. biz environments are hell
[23:09] <WotGorila> plus working on kewl projects is more fun, and you get to meet interestin
[23:09] <sik-style> I have a problem.
[23:09] <sik-style> Now that I have my image done I want it to be a bump on a certain polygon
[23:10] <sik-style> How could I make it like that without affecting the whole object?
[23:11] <WotGorila> guess it depends on what you are doing and how you want it to come out an
[23:11] <WotGorila> ;)
[23:12] <sik-style> You and your guru talk, WotGorila. :p
[23:14] <sik-style> Hmm I think I got it now.
[23:14] <WotGorila> but...since you are using max7... you might want to pix up Texporter
[23:15] <mcarp> spratt, im intersted in knowing what technique you use to get your model wire
[23:15] <WotGorila> pix = pick
[23:15] <sik-style> If everything else fails I'll call you up on that, WotGorila. :)
[23:15] <mcarp> you are either just THAT GOOD or you have some concept that gets you there?
[23:15] <WotGorila> or you can go F1 UVunwrap
[23:16] <sik-style> Where can I see spratt's work?
[23:16] <WotGorila> That's the photomodeler Mcarp
[23:16] <sik-style> Ok, I'll look into that.
[23:16] <mcarp> eh?
[23:17] <mcarp> WotGorila: im a n00b so tell me more
[23:17] <flashed> the photomodeler creates the models and the camera..
[23:17] <WotGorila> http://www.photomodeler.com/
[23:17] <spratt> www.digital-montage.com/demoreel
[23:17] <spratt> its doesnt create the models :D
[23:17] <WotGorila> looks pretty kewl
[23:17] <spratt> god no it doesnt
[23:17] <spratt> you place points on images, and it lines up camera positions, and works out
[23:18] <flashed> well.. ir creates the models from the points :P
[23:18] <spratt> nope
[23:18] <mcarp> still it'd go a long way helping
[23:18] <WotGorila> yeah, was thinking of using that to make 3d models of all the artifacts o
[23:19] <WotGorila> would make it much quicker
[23:19] <flashed> what did he meant by nope?
[23:19] <WotGorila> just never talked to anyone that used it a lot
[23:21] <mcarp> well, i tell ya, ive done a lot of experimenting of working up geometry out o
[23:21] <WotGorila> 3d scanner would probably be even better for artifacts
[23:22] <flashed> yup
[23:22] <mcarp> like take any photo of some human and lay out some shape forms and then raise
[23:24] <mcarp> if we didnt have any idea what ppl looked like in real life it would be of co
[23:25] <WotGorila> seems like you could make a better 3d scanner if you used sonar
[23:25] <mcarp> but my goal would be to aquire the skill to pick up any photo and pull geomet
[23:26] <mcarp> well sonar, laser beam scanning, conceptually its all about receiving a refle
[23:26] <WotGorila> I can take all our Sonar Data and turn it into 3d model...so it does work
[23:26] <mcarp> altho back surfaces you cant 'see' with a laser
[23:26] <mcarp> yes agreed
[23:27] <WotGorila> hmmmm
[23:27] <WotGorila> like a triple channel sidescan would be even better
[23:27] <WotGorila> hmmmm
[23:27] <WotGorila> got me thinking now
[23:27] <WotGorila> on no
[23:28] <WotGorila> oh no
[23:28] <mcarp> wat?
[23:29] <WotGorila> going to send off an E-mail to my friend who invented the sidescan sonar
[23:29] <WotGorila> :)
[23:29] <WotGorila> at the least, they have enough parts laying around they could try it out
[23:29] <mcarp> heh
[23:31] <sik-style> Man, I've been rendering the same object over and over again.
[23:31] <sik-style> I should've done the bump in the beginning.
[23:32] <WotGorila> heh
[23:36] <sik-style> It looks good on the sphere in the material editor but on an object it lo
[23:37] <lampaway> sik, why r u still here?!
[23:38] <lampaway> go away !
[23:38] <lampaway> ;p
[23:39] <sik-style> I am renderinh. :p
[23:39] <sik-style> It's currently: « 02:39:29 » « Friday 12 May 2006 »
[23:39] <sik-style> Crap. A bit more, then I'll watch some porn and then go to sleep.
[23:39] <mcarp> why would you want him to go away?
[23:40] <sik-style> I am sure he was merely joking. :)
[23:41] <mcarp> well, i guess i am done looking at photomodeler and i suppose i'll never have
[23:41] <sik-style> Anyway here is what I've been working on.
[23:41] <sik-style> http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2339/preview8la.jpg
[23:42] <sik-style> Why not, mcarp?
[23:42] <mcarp> well #1 cost, #2 camera cost
[23:43] <sik-style> Ah.
[23:43] <sik-style> I thought it was freeware. :p
[23:43] <mcarp> *rolls eyes*
[23:43] <sik-style> Don't ask. :p
[23:43] <sik-style> Anyway, night.
[23:43] <mcarp> 15 years of developmental data
[23:43] <mcarp> mmmhm
[23:43] <mcarp> nice pic
[23:43] <mcarp> nite
[23:43] <flashed> nite
[23:49] <mcarp> well
[23:49] <mcarp> crap i was hoping i could learn a few things from spratt but he left in a loo
[23:50] <mcarp> then again, maybe if i knew anything about photomodeler it would cease to be
[23:52] <mcarp> WotGorila: do you think each of those chairs is a clone mesh or was the chair
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