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Session Start: Sun Apr 16 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:00] <wandii> thanks bud
[00:12] <Method404> Rogue
[00:13] <Dr_Rambo> wandii
[00:13] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.mspx
[00:16] <wandii> aha
[00:16] <wandii> cheers dudey =)
[00:16] <Dr_Rambo> np
[00:16] <wandii> heh no wonder I couldn't get remote desktop to work on here ages ago........
[00:18] <Method404> Eddie Vedder is damn good
[00:18] <wandii> brb
[00:18] * wandii awej
[00:18] <Dr_Rambo> who's he
[00:18] <Method404> Peal Jam just performed on SNL
[00:18] <Method404> *Pearl
[00:18] <Method404> lead singer of Pearl Jam
[00:33] <klementin> eddie vedder :)
[00:34] <klementin> yea didnt read up. nm
[00:35] <Dr_Rambo> oh
[02:00] * GRID_ is now known as GRID
[03:05] <timbre> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2005/12/29/GA2005122900
[03:08] <aia> nice
[03:13] <suurland> http://photo.suurland.com/photo_x.php?photoid=1007
[03:16] <timbre> suurland
[03:16] <timbre> hi !
[03:16] <timbre> u know that art ?
[03:16] <timbre> by Ron Mueck ?
[03:16] <suurland> yeah.. i took that photo I just posted..
[03:16] <suurland> a museum 1km from here bought it
[03:16] <timbre> amaaaazing art
[03:17] <timbre> i totally love it
[03:17] <timbre> http://photo.suurland.com/photo_x.php?photoid=1009
[03:17] <timbre> OMG
[04:39] <Anvile> yeah i'm eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasyyyy
[04:39] <Anvile> easy like sunday morning
[06:58] <WotGorila> aloha
[06:59] <TranQui|> g'mornin
[07:00] <WotGorila> morning Tranq
[07:21] <madkarma> morning
[07:21] <WotGorila> Morning Mad
[07:22] <WotGorila> heh, Son made it to Canada
[07:22] <WotGorila> I hope he makes it back ok
[07:23] <madkarma> why wouldnt he
[07:24] * madkarma checks cnn if there is a war in canada he didnt hear off
[07:24] <WotGorila> because he smokes too much weed
[07:25] <WotGorila> He'll like it there too much
[07:25] <WotGorila> LOL
[07:25] <madkarma> ahhh
[07:25] <WotGorila> All the highschool seniors head to Canada because they drinking age in Mo
[07:25] <WotGorila> they =the
[07:26] <madkarma> 16 here
[07:26] <WotGorila> wow
[07:26] <madkarma> not realy.. whats the legal age to drive a car
[07:26] <WotGorila> 16
[07:26] <madkarma> here 18
[07:26] <ghib[2d]> anyone know of a plugin that let's you view psd files in thumbnail?
[07:26] <WotGorila> ahh
[07:27] <madkarma> but it wouldnt be bad to raise that to 20
[07:27] <madkarma> they still drive them selfs in a wall
[07:28] <WotGorila> Well, they have to have 16 drivers are there would be nobody to work the
[07:28] <WotGorila> ;)
[07:28] * Ob|IvI0N is now known as _AD
[07:30] <WotGorila> Hotels are crying as it is now, tons of TV and Radio commercials looking
[07:30] <madkarma> i bet if they payed decent they would get staff
[07:31] <WotGorila> Only problem is you need to make big bucks to live around here or drive
[07:31] <WotGorila> yeah, some places pay good
[07:31] <WotGorila> but the local kids snag up those jobs
[07:31] <WotGorila> my son makes $15 an hour washing dishes after High school
[07:31] <madkarma> damn .. for washing dishes
[07:33] <WotGorila> Plus his boss gives him free weed bonuses
[07:33] <WotGorila> LOL
[07:34] <madkarma> for that i would slap his boss
[07:35] <WotGorila> I can't say too much about it, because everyone around here smokes pot, a
[07:35] <WotGorila> My wife is wicked anti-drug, so those 2 go at it all the time
[07:37] <WotGorila> As long as he's not killing people, stealing stuff or doing meth, heroin
[07:38] <WotGorila> If he wants to sit in the basement and play "the 70's show" with his frie
[07:38] <WotGorila> heh
[07:39] <madkarma> nono.. the weed is ok
[07:39] <madkarma> i would just slap his boss for giving weed to the kid
[07:39] <WotGorila> well, he is 19
[07:39] <madkarma> still
[07:39] <BiowaX> well, think about all the money he saves
[07:40] <BiowaX> :>
[07:40] <WotGorila> I'm just glad he decided not to join the army
[07:40] <madkarma> here weed is just as expensive as milk
[07:40] <madkarma> i never think of weed in terms of money
[07:40] <WotGorila> :)
[07:41] <madkarma> the army would have been way worse yes
[07:41] <WotGorila> sitting here trying to think up all sorts of scenes for this Treasure Doc
[07:42] <WotGorila> I'm thinking maybe they should do some sort of reality show
[07:45] <WotGorila> Creative archaeology
[07:45] <WotGorila> LOL
[07:46] <WotGorila> They need to raise about 20 million dollars
[07:47] <WotGorila> A reality show of some kind might beable to pay for it, plus it would be
[07:47] <TranQui|> i smoke weed
[07:47] <TranQui|> its all fine in moderation
[07:47] <TranQui|> just gotta maintain priorities,
[07:48] <TranQui|> sorry just reading above
[07:48] <WotGorila> Yeah, as long as he doesn't make it his life
[07:48] <TranQui|> yup
[07:48] <WotGorila> that only works for Tommy Chong
[07:48] <WotGorila> heh
[07:49] <TranQui|> ive been smokin for about 11 years now, since i was 15, honor student all
[07:49] <madkarma> naahh my only issue is that i wouldnt like my kid to get pot from work
[07:49] <TranQui|> doesnt really play into my life, accept i did find i put off getting my dr
[07:49] <madkarma> work is work
[07:49] <WotGorila> :)
[07:52] <TranQui|> i wish i could smoke pot at work hehe
[07:52] <TranQui|> naww actually i dont
[07:52] <TranQui|> its nice to have somethin to look forward to after a long day
[07:52] <TranQui|> get home, hop in the hot tub w/ a beer and a dube. relax
[07:54] <madkarma> havent smoked weed in 9 years
[08:01] <Anvile> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3812507039888532441&pl=true
[08:03] <Anvile> TranQui| : exactly :P
[08:05] <doublex> anyone here active?
[08:06] <ghib[2d]> oi oi
[08:06] <Anvile> asdf
[08:06] <ghib[2d]> wysiwyg
[08:07] <doublex> interesting language
[08:07] <ghib[2d]> stfu
[08:07] <ghib[2d]> :D
[08:07] <ghib[2d]> j/k
[08:07] <doublex> :)
[08:08] <doublex> do you know where i can get some decent female face reference pics for free
[08:08] <doublex> unfortunately im skint
[08:08] <ghib[2d]> www.fineart.sk
[08:08] <doublex> and have trogged over the whole intermaweb
[08:08] <doublex> hmm ty lemme have a look....
[08:10] <doublex> thats a site i already tried looking on :(
[08:10] <ghib[2d]> and you couldn't find anything ?
[08:10] <ghib[2d]> hmm. sorry
[08:11] <doublex> no probs
[08:12] <doublex> ive been trying to work of one front picture i found
[08:12] <doublex> but man its difficult
[08:13] <doublex> my model keeps looking chinese :/
[08:15] <ghib[2d]> the thing is. even with a front and profile image to work from . you'll al
[08:15] <doublex> yeah
[08:16] <doublex> thats where ive been doing most of the work
[08:16] <doublex> http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/bea
[08:16] <doublex> thats the reference picture im using for the front
[08:16] <ghib[2d]> nice image
[08:16] <doublex> yeah
[08:17] <doublex> shame there isn't a profile :(
[08:17] <WotGorila> Drug women at bars and bring them home
[08:17] <WotGorila> You can't good ref pics that way
[08:17] <doublex> ive only got as far as the eye area and forehead really but they look nothi
[08:17] <WotGorila> LOL
[08:17] <doublex> good idea thanks for your input
[08:17] <Gray_Fox0> Hi all
[08:17] <doublex> 'lo
[08:18] <Gray_Fox0> Whats new??
[08:18] <doublex> pain and suffering in all 4 viewports
[08:18] <Gray_Fox0> Hehee yeah i know the feeling... I'm going trought it right now.
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> try criminal photos
[08:18] <Gray_Fox0> What are you working on??
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> those police line up photo
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> I remember there is a site for it
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> it's got front and side
[08:19] <doublex> thats a good idea
[08:19] <Gray_Fox0> What are you trying to model doublex??
[08:19] <doublex> a female face
[08:20] <Gray_Fox0> hmmm i have some pic on female faces do you want them??
[08:20] <doublex> yeah sure :D
[08:20] <Gray_Fox0> Cool hold on
[08:20] <Gray_Fox0> they are high res
[08:20] <doublex> sweet
[08:20] <doublex> matching profile/front pics?
[08:20] <Gray_Fox0> yeah like 1200x 1080 or something like that.
[08:21] <doublex> nice
[08:21] <Gray_Fox0> yeah let me show you the site i got them from.
[08:21] <Dr_Rambo> found it
[08:21] <doublex> kk
[08:21] <Dr_Rambo> doublex
[08:21] <Dr_Rambo> http://thnom.tehunlose.com/model_resource/index.html
[08:21] <Dr_Rambo> they aren't pretty
[08:21] <Dr_Rambo> but they are perfect for what u do
[08:22] <doublex> lol
[08:22] <doublex> theyre pretty good :)
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> haha
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> hey,
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> I just found another one
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> http://services.co.dakota.mn.us/jailsearch/index.aspx
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> it's dakota Jail search
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> LMAO
[08:22] <Dr_Rambo> all photo there are PERFECT
[08:22] <doublex> lol
[08:23] <Dr_Rambo> front and side
[08:23] <Gray_Fox0> I hot my high res pic form this site http://www.female-anatomy-for-artist
[08:23] <doublex> i tried that it was asking me for money :(
[08:23] <Gray_Fox0> I know i have the pic
[08:23] <Gray_Fox0> i will send them to you.
[08:24] <Gray_Fox0> i even have body profiles.
[08:24] <Gray_Fox0> if you want them.
[08:24] <doublex> thatd be awsome :D
[08:24] <Anvile> I do hope to get some no convict pictures up eventually.
[08:24] <Anvile> haha
[08:24] <Gray_Fox0> cool hold on
[08:25] <Dr_Rambo> Convict pics are the best
[08:25] <doublex> im looking at the convict pictures now lol
[08:25] <Dr_Rambo> with pot marks on face, scars and shit
[08:25] <Gray_Fox0> Doublex do you want the whole picture set, or jsut some pic of the frot a
[08:25] <Dr_Rambo> not like model's face
[08:25] <Dr_Rambo> free of blemishes
[08:25] <Gray_Fox0> the whole set is 212mb
[08:26] <Dr_Rambo> hey Grayfox
[08:26] <Dr_Rambo> this site u are refering to, isn't that 3dfineart.sk?
[08:26] <Dr_Rambo> all their stuff seems to be the same as fineart.sk
[08:27] <doublex> yeah just face and body would be fine
[08:27] <Dr_Rambo> I recognise the model... Anita
[08:27] <Dr_Rambo> and couple of others
[08:28] <doublex> gray fox how do you want to send the files?
[08:29] <doublex> irc DCC?
[08:30] <Gray_Fox0> I dont know if i can send over irc so let me try... If it does not work i
[08:31] <doublex> :/
[08:31] <Gray_Fox0> Are you still there doublex??
[08:31] <doublex> yeah
[08:31] <Gray_Fox0> ok
[08:31] <Gray_Fox0> dam it did not work
[08:32] <doublex> ive not used dcc before to send
[08:32] <Gray_Fox0> I will add them to my site in a zip file so you cna download it.
[08:32] <doublex> good idea :)
[08:32] <doublex> how big is this zip?
[08:32] <Gray_Fox0> ok hold on let me zip them and upload them.
[08:34] <doublex> kk
[08:34] <Gray_Fox0> ok it is ziped... the file is 2mb
[08:34] <Gray_Fox0> Now to see if i have anought space on me server.
[08:35] <doublex> 2mb isn't too bad thats pretty small
[08:36] <Gray_Fox0> yeah
[08:37] <Gray_Fox0> uploading now
[08:37] <doublex> thanks :)
[08:38] <Gray_Fox0> let me know if they are whass you want... i have other female faces and b
[08:38] <Gray_Fox0> all high res.
[08:39] <doublex> cool
[08:39] <decap> porn!
[08:40] <Gray_Fox0> no not porn,
[08:40] <Gray_Fox0> jsut nude female refrence pic.
[08:40] <decap> wich is long format for porn :P
[08:40] <doublex> :/
[08:40] <Gray_Fox0> hehe ok i stand corrected.
[08:41] <doublex> its not the sort of material you beat off to
[08:41] <doublex> so its not porn
[08:41] <decap> lol :<
[08:41] <doublex> :)
[08:41] <Gray_Fox0> Well you can if you really wanted too hehe!!!
[08:41] <Gray_Fox0> Thwe girls dont look bad at all.
[08:42] <doublex> gdgd
[08:42] <doublex> its much easier on the eyes staring at a pic of an attractice girl for hour
[08:42] <doublex> im doing my best to model the face of an attractice female but my efforts a
[08:43] <Gray_Fox0> Ahh i know what you mean,
[08:43] <doublex> its not as easy as it looks
[08:43] <Hosti> how did this guy do it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbSR5_boMcc
[08:43] <ghib[2d]> doublex. maybe you're trying too hard to achieve conventional beauty.
[08:43] <doublex> its the eyes that look the worst
[08:44] <Gray_Fox0> The girl i'm sending you is very attractive, but i was not able to get he
[08:44] <doublex> at the moment im trying to make something that looks at least slightly huma
[08:44] <Gray_Fox0> Do you have a render doublex??
[08:44] <Gray_Fox0> hehe
[08:44] <doublex> i could do one as it stands
[08:44] <Dr_Rambo> bet it's anita
[08:44] <doublex> lemme try
[08:44] <Dr_Rambo> Attractive girls are not interesting to model
[08:44] <Gray_Fox0> please can you?? I would like to see it,
[08:44] <doublex> btw there is no skin material
[08:45] <Gray_Fox0> Really rambo??
[08:45] <Dr_Rambo> they are usually devoid of interesting features interm of CG
[08:45] <doublex> k ive rendered it i just need to send it somehow
[08:45] <Gray_Fox0> Hmmmm....
[08:45] <doublex> i disafree rambo :/
[08:45] <doublex> disagree*
[08:45] <doublex> i saw a picture yesterday of an attractice CG face
[08:46] <doublex> but it was no way 'perfect'
[08:46] <Gray_Fox0> You dont have a deb site double??
[08:46] <doublex> nope
[08:46] <Dr_Rambo> well, a model face is usually quite smooth
[08:46] <Dr_Rambo> free of blemishes
[08:46] <doublex> yeah
[08:46] <Dr_Rambo> compare this to a more sculpted face of say, an old crooked man
[08:46] <ghib[2d]> get your zbrushin OONNN
[08:46] <Dr_Rambo> I think old crooked man have more interesting features for modeling
[08:46] <Dr_Rambo> yep
[08:46] <decap> well zbrush ftw
[08:46] <Dr_Rambo> ZBRUSH :D
[08:47] <doublex> never used zbrush
[08:47] <decap> once you do you never go back
[08:47] <ghib[2d]> ftw?
[08:47] <decap> for the win
[08:47] <doublex> never done any real texturing
[08:47] <doublex> im just a hobbyist :)
[08:47] <ghib[2d]> aha
[08:47] <Gray_Fox0> Doublex i need to free up some space on my web server so i can upload the
[08:47] <Gray_Fox0> give me 10 mins.
[08:47] <doublex> np
[08:48] <doublex> in the meantime ill try fixing up an ftp server
[08:48] <decap> though zbrush makes it to easy sometimes :o)
[08:48] <Gray_Fox0> Cool
[08:48] <doublex> is zbrush a photoshop clone or something??
[08:49] <ghib[2d]> zbrush is a paint modelling tool thingy
[08:50] <Dr_Rambo> paint modeling
[08:50] <decap> its something like photoshop in 3d
[08:50] <Dr_Rambo> it's a clone of Amorphium
[08:50] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[08:50] <decap> though modeling could be done to
[08:50] <decap> and theres the zphere tool wich kicks more ass then anything else
[08:50] <Dr_Rambo> it's basically Amorphium
[08:50] <doublex> sounds strange
[08:50] <Dr_Rambo> if anyone still remembers that app
[08:51] <decap> never heard of it
[08:51] <Dr_Rambo> old program, you paint on the face to deform it
[08:51] <Dr_Rambo> Zbrush is like that.. except with Zsphere (meta-ball)
[08:51] <Dr_Rambo> sad to see Amorphium hasn't been updated for YEARS
[08:52] <Dr_Rambo> atleast it will give Zbrush some competition
[08:52] <ghib[2d]> well. give me mudbox or hexagon2 anyday
[08:53] <Dr_Rambo> mudbox?
[08:53] <Dr_Rambo> never heard of mudbox
[08:53] <doublex> mspaint.exe ftw
[08:53] <ghib[2d]> Weta digital created paint modeller
[08:53] <Dr_Rambo> oh yeh?
[08:54] <Dr_Rambo> you got a link?
[08:54] <Dr_Rambo> I wouldn't mind having a look
[08:54] <ghib[2d]> i can't find much info on it yet
[08:54] <ghib[2d]> i was hoping that King Kong dvd extras would have some sneakpeeks but the
[08:57] <Hosti> hey guys im planning to buy this http://www.iwill.net/product_2.asp?p_id=107&
[08:59] <doublex> order one for me?
[09:01] <madkarma> looks intresting
[09:01] <doublex> gray fox still here?
[09:04] <decap> gah who said nice girls wouldnt model
[09:04] <decap> oh rambo
[09:04] <decap> http://www.eovia.com/images/hexagon_2/pack_3dsk.jpg shes not bad
[09:04] <decap> neither is the program tbh ghib :)
[09:05] <decap> tho its very simulair to zbrush wich i allready have so dont need to waste mo
[09:05] <odsm> whos the girl? :)
[09:05] <ghib[2d]> decap what do you mean?
[09:06] <Gray_Fox0> DOuble are you there??
[09:06] <doublex> yep
[09:06] <Gray_Fox0> Cool sorry about that i had to check up on my clothes.
[09:06] <Gray_Fox0> I'm weashing them.
[09:06] <doublex> lol
[09:06] <doublex> np
[09:06] <decap> well it does the same things, in the same way except texturing.
[09:06] <doublex> you get the link i sent you to the render?
[09:07] <doublex> bear in mind its my first attempt at something 'fleshy'
[09:07] <Gray_Fox0> no it did not work
[09:07] <doublex> only done solid objects before
[09:07] <doublex> hmm ok
[09:07] <Gray_Fox0> here is the link for the file http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/data
[09:08] <doublex> :D :D
[09:08] <ghib[2d]> decap. which app are you talking about?
[09:08] <ghib[2d]> hexagon2?
[09:09] <doublex> cool
[09:09] <doublex> theyre really good thanks :)
[09:10] <Gray_Fox0> let me know if you like them
[09:10] <Gray_Fox0> cool
[09:10] <Gray_Fox0> I have more if you want.
[09:10] <doublex> is there a front face view with the chin down a bit?
[09:11] <Gray_Fox0> i tihnk there is let me see.
[09:11] <doublex> xD
[09:12] <Gray_Fox0> uploading it now
[09:12] <doublex> awsome
[09:12] <doublex> almost got my ftp thingy working so i could send the render
[09:12] <Gray_Fox0> cool
[09:12] <doublex> i can forsee getting a decent skin shader being difficult
[09:13] <Gray_Fox0> You should really try to find a web server so you can put your stuff on i
[09:13] <Gray_Fox0> here is the pic http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/data/Simona_D_0202
[09:14] <Gray_Fox0> Is this one better??
[09:15] <doublex> yeah thats perfect xD
[09:15] <Gray_Fox0> cOOL
[09:15] <doublex> i have my ftp server up
[09:15] <doublex> go to the other convo window for a sec
[09:15] <Gray_Fox0> cool
[09:16] <Hosti> watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgwEcBvHGoE
[09:22] <doublex> thats pretty good
[09:30] <Hosti> do u guys know any good human character profile references?
[09:31] <Gray_Fox0> I have a few
[09:31] <Hosti> can u dcc
[09:34] <Gray_Fox0> umm
[09:35] <Gray_Fox0> if you only want front and side i may be able to help, but if you want al
[09:43] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 front and side is fine
[09:43] <Hosti> do u know where to get em
[09:43] <Hosti> pls
[09:44] <Gray_Fox0> I have some.
[09:44] <Gray_Fox0> hold on.
[09:44] <Gray_Fox0> you only want face or of a full body??
[09:45] <Hosti> both
[09:45] <Hosti> both and are they proportional so easy setup in rotoscope or 3d view?
[09:47] <Gray_Fox0> ok hold on let me see if i can dcc them to you.
[09:48] <Hosti> ok letme know pls
[09:48] <Gray_Fox0> trying to send, but i dont think it worked.
[09:49] <Hosti> ok again
[09:49] <Hosti> can u zip and email it to me
[09:49] <Gray_Fox0> sure
[09:49] <Gray_Fox0> Whats your email address??
[09:50] <Hosti> justinamanzer@hotmail.com
[09:52] <Hosti> have u finished
[09:56] <Gray_Fox0> almost
[09:59] <Gray_Fox0> Hosti i need 10 more mins i need to check on my clothes.
[10:07] <Hosti> is it finished
[10:12] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 are u still there
[10:17] <Gray_Fox0> I'm here dude.. I told you i had to go check on my clothes.
[10:17] <Gray_Fox0> I'm back now and will upload the files now.
[10:18] <Hosti> how big
[10:19] <Gray_Fox0> 2mb
[10:20] <Gray_Fox0> pic are high-res
[10:21] <Hosti> is it finished
[10:22] <Gray_Fox0> no it is still attaching the file.
[10:22] <reddino> mouse can be moved by our mind! http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.htm
[10:22] <Gray_Fox0> 2mb will take a little time
[10:27] <Gray_Fox0> Hosti do you use msn??
[10:27] <Hosti> nope
[10:27] <Hosti> why
[10:27] <Hosti> im still waiting
[10:27] <Gray_Fox0> ok it jsut got send to you.
[10:31] <Hosti> thanks
[10:33] <Gray_Fox0> you got it??
[10:33] <Hosti> still downloading
[10:33] <Gray_Fox0> ok
[10:33] <Hosti> do u use polyboost
[10:33] <Hosti> do u have any work online
[10:33] <Gray_Fox0> Well it is in your inbox so that good.
[10:34] <Hosti> pls lemme see
[10:34] <Gray_Fox0> yes i have some 3d models i made on my web site.
[10:34] <Gray_Fox0> Want to see some of them??
[10:34] <Hosti> sure
[10:34] <Hosti> its only a girl do u have a guy
[10:35] <Gray_Fox0> i was trying to model a guy, but i never finished hi,
[10:35] <Gray_Fox0> Are you talking about a guy refrence pictures??
[10:35] <Hosti> yep
[10:36] <Hosti> where is your website
[10:36] <Hosti> pls lemme see
[10:36] <Hosti> do u use polyboost
[10:36] <Gray_Fox0> oh yeah i have some hight res pic of guys.
[10:36] <Gray_Fox0> no i dont use it.
[10:36] <Gray_Fox0> http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/images/sea.jpg
[10:36] <Gray_Fox0> thats one of the modls i made usieng dreamscape
[10:36] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 im just looking for references
[10:37] <Hosti> any human reference will do
[10:37] <Hosti> as long as they are proportional do u have some more
[10:38] <Gray_Fox0> and i send you some of a girl.
[10:38] <Ta|isman> hosti why not sign up to 3d.sk then
[10:38] <Gray_Fox0> dude if you only wanted a refrence of a guy then you should have said so.
[10:38] <Gray_Fox0> i have one but you jsut said you wanted human.
[10:38] <Gray_Fox0> so i went with what i thought you would like.
[10:38] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 i want all references u got
[10:39] <Ta|isman> hosti
[10:39] <Hosti> do u have somemore
[10:39] <Gray_Fox0> Dude you can have them all because jsut that girls i send you all of her
[10:39] <Ta|isman> get off yer lazy ass and have a look on the web yourself
[10:39] <Hosti> ok
[10:39] <Gray_Fox0> there is like 100pic on her and i have to go trought ever one of them to
[10:39] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 can u email it to me pls
[10:40] <Gray_Fox0> it will take me some time.
[10:40] <Ta|isman> and if this is the 3d.sk stuff you have to pay for - it means it's warez..
[10:40] <Hosti> ok
[10:40] <Hosti> its not 3d.sk
[10:40] <Gray_Fox0> i am sending the pic for free.
[10:40] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 ok email it ok
[10:40] <Gray_Fox0> I dont sell stuff i buy form the site.
[10:40] <Hosti> Gray_Fox0 thanks
[10:40] <Ta|isman> you can't give it away either I'm sure ;)
[10:41] <Gray_Fox0> Ta|isman you tihnk that low of me :( i'm hurt.
[10:41] <Ta|isman> hehehe
[10:41] * EC is now known as odsm
[10:41] <Gray_Fox0> hmm so helping out another 3d arts with refrence is not good??
[10:41] <Gray_Fox0> dam i did not know that.
[10:41] <Gray_Fox0> Well sorry dude i cant help you.
[10:41] <Gray_Fox0> I have to go by the rules in here.
[10:42] <Ta|isman> hehe he hasn't even made up his mind which 3d program he's going touse yet
[10:42] <Hosti> very clean http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/images/HeadFrontWire1.jpg
[10:43] <Hosti> u doing the joan of arc tutorial from 3dtotal?
[10:43] <Gray_Fox0> yeah i did it when i first started useing max.
[10:44] <Gray_Fox0> I love max!!! But i think i'm going to start messing with maya in a few d
[10:44] <Gray_Fox0> So you think that face looks good??
[10:45] <Gray_Fox0> I have alot of work to do on it still.
[10:45] <Hosti> lol we got the same router
[10:45] <Hosti> maya sucks
[10:45] <Gray_Fox0> yeah
[10:45] <Hosti> use max it is mostly used by game developers
[10:45] <Hosti> maya is overpriced piece of sh*t
[10:45] <Gray_Fox0> Maya is ok once you get hte hang of it.
[10:46] <Hosti> u use max 8
[10:46] <Gray_Fox0> yeah
[10:46] <Hosti> can u dcc me more references?
[10:46] <Gray_Fox0> My dcc does not work
[10:46] <Hosti> send email
[10:47] <Hosti> sorry
[10:47] <Ta|isman> Hosti stop spongeing off others' good will and get of yer ass
[10:47] <Gray_Fox0> dude i cant send you the pic the guys in here will ban me from the channe
[10:47] <Gray_Fox0> Yeah sorry dude.
[10:48] <Hosti> oh man
[10:48] <Hosti> how long u been doing 3d
[10:48] <Gray_Fox0> about a year and a half now.
[10:49] <Hosti> took me some time to model a full figured model
[10:49] <Hosti> and to master the head
[10:49] <doublex> head modelling = nightmare
[10:49] <doublex> a nightmare im experienceing now
[10:49] <Gray_Fox0> Can i see what you have??
[10:49] <Hosti> wait
[10:49] <Gray_Fox0> no head modeling is easy,
[10:49] <doublex> gray fox im finding it hard to line up reference pics in the viewports lol
[10:49] <Gray_Fox0> the body is a nightmear.
[10:50] <Ta|isman> keep in mind ref pics have perspctive in them... you should not model to t
[10:50] <Gray_Fox0> who so double??
[10:50] <doublex> im not used to using reference pictures thats all
[10:50] <Ta|isman> I mean - you shouldn't model to those in orthographic viewports ;)
[10:50] <Gray_Fox0> I see.
[10:51] <doublex> whaddya mean talisman?
[10:51] <Ta|isman> photo's have perspective... even on the longest lenses
[10:51] <doublex> aye
[10:51] <doublex> i doubt itll make much if any difference though
[10:51] <Ta|isman> if you copy those images in an orthographic viewport and switch to perspec
[10:51] <Ta|isman> oh yes it will
[10:52] <Ta|isman> look at a 3d head from the front in prtho and perspecitve... see the diffe
[10:52] <doublex> ok...
[10:52] <Hosti> Ta|isman what company do u work for
[10:53] <Ta|isman> climax... UK game dev
[10:53] <Hosti> Ta|isman ure not in seatle anymore
[10:53] <Hosti> ?
[10:53] <doublex> whaddya recon the best method for me to set up these reference pics is then
[10:53] <Hosti> u finished doing games for MS?
[10:53] <Ta|isman> never was
[10:53] <Bibendum> http://www.climaxgroup.com/ ?
[10:54] <Ta|isman> M$ = publisher
[10:54] <Bibendum> wtf 50 player xbox live
[10:54] <Ta|isman> Bibendum yeah
[10:54] <Bibendum> thats a lot of players D;
[10:54] <Gray_Fox0> yup
[10:55] <doublex> reference pics as ortho viewport background vs reference pics mapped onto p
[10:55] <Ta|isman> doublex model by eye rather than matching something up rotoscope wise... i
[10:55] <doublex> which should i do?
[10:55] <doublex> im afraid i don't have much of an artistic eye for things lol
[10:55] <Ta|isman> i.e. have a collection of pics of the smae head from multiple angles
[10:56] <Ta|isman> practice makes perfect
[10:56] <doublex> i can tell me face looks 'wrong' but cannot put my finger on what it is
[10:56] <doublex> yeah
[10:56] <Ta|isman> take a screenshot and mirror it in photoshop
[10:56] <Gray_Fox0> Ta|isman i'm tying ot train myself do do that, but it is hard.
[10:56] <Ta|isman> it is hard sure
[10:56] <doublex> im working with a symmetry modifier
[10:56] <Ta|isman> but then easy is no fun ;)
[10:56] <Gray_Fox0> I still find mrself falling back on refrences pic in my view ports.
[10:57] <Gray_Fox0> yeah that true.
[10:57] <Bibendum> most difficult part of head modeling for me is the cheekbone area and the
[10:57] <Gray_Fox0> yeah me too.
[10:57] <Gray_Fox0> I'm getting the hang of it, but it still gives me alot of problems.
[10:57] <Hosti> me is nose
[10:58] <Ta|isman> just make sure you keep the geometry simp[le
[10:58] <Ta|isman> a good way is to use zbrush to put things into place... not sculpting wise
[10:58] <Hosti> me is nose nx sdz
[10:58] <Hosti> me is nose and ears
[10:58] <doublex> keeping geometry simple i agree with
[10:59] <doublex> meshsmooth does all the work after that ;)
[10:59] <Hosti> yes i agree
[10:59] <Gray_Fox0> Right now i'm trying ot clean up the face of one of the models i made,
[10:59] <Bibendum> I dont use meshsmooth ;(
[10:59] <Gray_Fox0> I am seeing alot of tringles :(
[10:59] <Ta|isman> try and keep quads all over.. hide triangles wher you can't see them
[10:59] <Hosti> are there game engines that supports quads or ngons?
[11:00] <Ta|isman> not really
[11:00] <Ta|isman> there's no point either
[11:01] <doublex> talisman ive heard before to stick to quads
[11:01] <doublex> but why is that?
[11:01] <Bibendum> triangles dont subdivide properly
[11:01] <Ta|isman> because the smoothing algorytms prefer them...
[11:01] <doublex> hmm
[11:01] <Ta|isman> and they are much easier to manage
[11:01] <Hosti> How do u control edgeflow triangles in
[11:01] <Ta|isman> selection and optimisation wise
[11:01] <Hosti> How do u control edgeflow triangles in MAYA
[11:01] <doublex> i always though an engine would split a quad down into two triangles anyway
[11:01] <doublex> thought*
[11:01] <Bibendum> no
[11:01] <Bibendum> it splits the quad into FOUR triangles
[11:02] <Ta|isman> doublex yeah ... for game models al lbetsa reoff
[11:02] <Bibendum> err
[11:02] <Ta|isman> in a game every poly' has to count
[11:02] <Bibendum> four more quads
[11:02] <Bibendum> when subdivided
[11:02] <doublex> ahh i see
[11:02] <Hosti> How do u control edgeflow triangles in MAYA
[11:02] <Bibendum> if you're not going to subdivide your mesh, don't bother sticking to quads
[11:02] <doublex> subdivide all the wya
[11:02] <Hosti> Ta|isman how do u work with tris in maya
[11:02] <doublex> way*
[11:02] <Ta|isman> Hosti what do yo umean by edgeflow triangles
[11:02] <Hosti> how do u make a clean tri models in maya?
[11:02] <Bibendum> if you're going to zbrush your model you will need to use quads
[11:03] <Ta|isman> by modelling?
[11:03] <Ta|isman> your question doesn't really make sense
[11:03] <Hosti> Ta|isman lots of work i suppose
[11:03] <Ta|isman> eh?
[11:03] <Hosti> than in 3dsmax
[11:03] <Ta|isman> hehe dude it still makes no sense ;)
[11:06] <Hosti> what is the mostly used mocap file for 3d engine
[11:06] <Ta|isman> hehehe
[11:07] <Ta|isman> none? :P
[11:07] <Kerbox> any messiah channel here on efnet?
[11:07] <Hosti> no one use mocap in 3dengine
[11:08] <Ta|isman> no directly no
[11:08] <Hosti> how do u use mocap file then
[11:08] <Ta|isman> mocap data needs edtiting and cleaning up before it's usefull
[11:08] <Ta|isman> I'd spend a few grand on a mocap suite and THEN ask ;P
[11:08] <Hosti> yes after cleaning editing retageting
[11:09] <Ta|isman> like all other animation
[11:09] <Hosti> im also planning to buy a mocap system and Face|Robot from XSI
[11:09] <Ta|isman> whether it's hand animated or mocap doesn't matter
[11:09] <Ta|isman> yeah I'd do that if I were you
[11:12] <Hosti> later
[11:12] <Hosti> thanks all
[11:13] * Anvile trips and falls towards Arielana
[11:14] <doublex> hmm anyone know a way to increase the quality of textures shown in the view
[11:15] <Anvile> customize > preferences > viewport > configure driver > ..
[11:15] <Anvile> then there's some buttons that have some numbers
[11:15] <Anvile> click the biggest one
[11:15] <doublex> yeah ive tried those ones
[11:15] <Anvile> and "match bitmap as closely as possible"
[11:15] <Anvile> then it should work
[11:15] <Anvile> restart max
[11:15] <doublex> ahh
[11:15] <Anvile> if that doesn't help, change driver
[11:15] <doublex> not restarted
[11:16] <Anvile> if that doesn't help, kill self
[11:16] <doublex> opengl/directx pros/cons?
[11:16] <doublex> somethings ive always wondered :(
[11:16] <doublex> :)
[11:16] <Anvile> direct3d
[11:16] <Anvile> use that
[11:16] <doublex> aye thats what i mean
[11:16] <doublex> how come/
[11:16] <Anvile> i don't know
[11:16] <Anvile> works better here
[11:17] <doublex> hmm
[11:17] <doublex> im on opengl at the moment
[11:17] <doublex> ill try changing
[11:18] <doublex> whoah
[11:18] <doublex> its dodgy
[11:18] <doublex> every couple of seconds it seems to 'stick'
[11:20] <trev-> for me direct3d is better for textures, but opengl is a tiny bit quicker
[11:22] <doublex> yeah
[11:22] <doublex> think my comps about ready for a restart
[11:22] <doublex> brb
[11:35] * G^skaal is now known as G^^
[11:44] <doublex> lo all
[11:54] <spazmo> hi
[11:54] <spazmo> how do you turn on snap to grid, exactly on the corners
[11:56] <doublex> about in the middle of the screen near the top theres a magnet button
[11:56] <doublex> probably with a 2 in the corner
[11:57] <doublex> activate it by clicking on it, and right click to set what you want to snap
[11:57] <doublex> vertices, edges, grid etc
[11:59] <Gray_Fox0> DAMIT!!!!
[11:59] <doublex> whats up
[12:00] <Gray_Fox0> max jsut crached on me :(
[12:00] <doublex> aw man
[12:00] <doublex> unlucky
[12:01] <doublex> its not the most stable of programs :/
[12:01] <doublex> i save every 2 minutes literally though incase of crashes
[12:01] <doublex> btw your reference pictures are helping load
[12:01] <doublex> s
[12:01] <doublex> its looking like a face now and you can tell its female :D
[12:02] <Gray_Fox0> sweet
[12:02] <Gray_Fox0> happy i could help out.
[12:05] <doublex> you can have a cut of the profits when she's starring in a cg movie :D
[12:06] <timbre> Remains of a London woman were found surrounded by still unopened Christmas
[12:07] <doublex> well aint you a bring of love and happiness
[12:07] <doublex> nice story :/
[12:07] <doublex> bringer**
[12:18] <doublex> talisman or gray fox still about?
[12:32] <trev-> in an animation, how can i turn off an object? im using the visibility track
[12:33] <mcarp> theres a check box in the render dialog 'render hidden objects'
[12:36] <trev-> yeh that does nothing. i think i'll have to render 2 sections and use layers
[12:37] <mcarp> bummer
[12:40] <trev-> visibility track just seems to be opacity :|
[12:42] <doublex> right click->properties->renderable ?
[12:42] <doublex> dunno if you can animate that though
[12:43] <trev-> nah :)
[12:46] <doublex> :(
[12:48] <G^^> render this <Hoppetau> rc cola er da ikke så ille
[12:48] <G^^> [21:46] <oi_faen> :§
[12:48] <G^^> sry
[13:08] <Gray_Fox0> Sorry about that i was watching a movie,
[13:09] <doublex> :)
[13:16] <spazmo> why are all the jobs out there for softimage and maya people ?
[13:17] <spazmo> whats max isnt good enough?
[13:17] <lampchair> max is for the rare cool people
[13:18] <lampchair> they're the damned rejects of cg-world, but they roam the world with cool
[13:18] <lampchair> like pirates
[13:18] <doublex> lol
[13:19] <doublex> man i can't sort out this damn forehead im trying to model
[13:20] <doublex> bulbous forehead and slitty eyes
[13:20] <doublex> its like an alien
[13:21] <lampchair> lol
[13:21] <Gray_Fox0> can i se ewhat you have??
[13:22] <doublex> yeah 2 secs
[13:22] <Gray_Fox0> ok
[13:23] <doublex> http://www.aurj64.dsl.pipex.com/femaleface3.jpg
[13:24] <doublex> it actually does look like an alien
[13:24] <doublex> bloody women
[13:24] <doublex> can't have simple to model faces
[13:25] <Gray_Fox0> keep going
[13:25] <Gray_Fox0> if you saw my model when it first stared it look the same way.
[13:25] <doublex> :(
[13:25] <Gray_Fox0> model the head so you have a simple shape of it then add details.
[13:25] <doublex> i wanna get what i have looking nice
[13:25] <doublex> i spose
[13:26] <doublex> also i have another problem
[13:26] <Gray_Fox0> trust me.
[13:26] <doublex> lemme just do a wireframe render
[13:27] <Gray_Fox0> here is an early verison of the head i made http://home.earthlink.net/~gr
[13:27] <doublex> http://www.aurj64.dsl.pipex.com/femalefacewire.jpg
[13:27] <doublex> looking at the wireframe
[13:27] <doublex> i have as many polygons around the eye as i need
[13:28] <doublex> however i want less polygons to have to shift around on the head
[13:28] <doublex> but i dunno how to reduce the detail on the top of the head without creatin
[13:29] <doublex> heh your head also looks like an alien in that pic :)
[13:29] <Gray_Fox0> see
[13:29] <Gray_Fox0> That is jsut the basic shape you need to finish it and then add details a
[13:29] <doublex> i s'pose
[13:30] <doublex> time to work downwards towards the dreaded mouth i think
[13:30] <doublex> give the damn windows to the soul a rest for a while
[13:31] <Gray_Fox0> ok
[13:35] <Gray_Fox0> jsut target weld away what you dont want.
[13:42] <trev-> yea the problem is with the seam
[13:58] * |-Apoc-| is now known as [-Apoc-]
[14:05] <Anvile> anyone know of a program which can print out a big jpg in several sheets of
[14:05] <NiteLite> i think most applications can
[14:05] <Anvile> most applications?
[14:05] <NiteLite> anything larger then a4 will get printed on multiple pages
[14:06] <Anvile> hmm
[14:06] <NiteLite> at least thats what usually happens to me when i print large ass stuff
[14:10] * Method40z is now known as Method404
[14:11] * RNDM is now known as Bibendum
[14:19] <suratt> heya
[14:35] <doublex> hello
[15:07] <borg29> whats boolean
[15:07] <borg29> ?
[15:08] <Kerbox> the ultimate evil... just read your bible
[15:08] <g|s> http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Boole.html
[15:08] <Fjooner> an evaluation that results in true or false
[15:08] <borg29> I know that, but why would they be restricted on this chanel
[15:09] <borg29> channel
[15:09] <borg29> I mean what does it have with 3dsmax?
[15:10] <Bibendum> Possibly because Max's boolean operations are horrible
[15:10] <borg29> aha
[15:10] <Bibendum> at least with polygonal meshes
[15:10] <borg29> hm
[15:11] <Bibendum> Supposedly PowerBooleans fixes all the problems
[15:11] <borg29> if you get polygonal mesh after you apply them I dont see why would them be
[15:11] <borg29> you mean they are buggy
[15:11] <Kerbox> he means the mesh you are left with are by rule messy
[15:12] <Bibendum> You get a polygonal mesh with horribly deformed geometry and are lucky if
[15:12] <borg29> aha
[15:12] <borg29> ok
[15:12] <borg29> thank you
[15:12] <borg29> its 100% clear now
[15:12] <Bibendum> With all the time you have to spend fixing it, you're better off having ne
[15:13] <Bibendum> k!
[15:13] <Bibendum> again though like I said, I've heard PowerBooleans solves it all if you're
[15:13] <borg29> ok
[15:14] <borg29> do you people have some links to your work?
[15:16] <doublex> yeah
[15:16] <doublex> http://www.hoopla.org/Carousel/TKCImages/originalbluehorse.jpg
[15:16] <borg29> thx
[15:17] <doublex> http://www.ssihc.org/images/kid_drawing.jpg
[15:17] <doublex> and that one :D
[15:17] <doublex> but for real:
[15:17] <borg29> you used too much booleans on this one
[15:17] <borg29> :)
[15:17] <Bibendum> wireframes plz
[15:18] <doublex> www.aurj64.dsl.pipex.com/femaleface4.jpg
[15:18] <doublex> just started that yesterday working on it now
[15:18] <borg29> is this for real :)
[15:19] <doublex> yes :(
[15:19] <doublex> she looks like an alien bless her
[15:19] <borg29> I doubt its all work you done?
[15:20] <doublex> i built it up from scratch
[15:20] <doublex> polygon by polygon
[15:21] <borg29> its slow method I suppose
[15:21] <borg29> polygon by polygon
[15:21] <doublex> yeah
[15:21] <doublex> but i prefer it to box modelling
[15:21] <borg29> yes, but its too slow I think
[15:22] <doublex> what else can you do
[15:22] <Tarkus> hey, im trying out the max 8 trial, and i cant get any help files.. i try pr
[15:22] <borg29> maybe helo is not part of demo
[15:22] <borg29> help
[15:23] <Bibendum> That would be awesome
[15:23] <Bibendum> "FEATURE DISABLED, TOO USEFUL"
[15:24] <borg29> you know help is most important
[15:24] <borg29> because when you learn, else is easy
[15:24] <Bibendum> Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they left it out simply because the do
[15:24] <doublex> there are plenty of good tutorials on the internet for 3ds max anyway
[15:24] <Tarkus> they offer it as an additionla download, so i downloaded it and made ahelp f
[15:25] <borg29> hm
[15:25] <borg29> you may be right
[15:25] <borg29> you cant put it whereever you want
[15:25] <borg29> it must be in specific place I suppose
[15:26] <Bibendum> can't you launch it outside of max?
[15:26] <Bibendum> its chm files correct? Just go into the help folder and doubleclick the on
[15:27] <g|s> its "compiled html" and you can open it whenever you like :P
[15:27] <Tarkus> Bibendum, yea, it works fine when i open it outside of max, i just need to g
[15:28] <doublex> meh your being too picky :)
[15:28] <g|s> pressing F1 just opens the file
[15:28] <g|s> nothing else
[15:28] <borg29> Tarkus, you can make shortcut
[15:29] <Tarkus> yea, i guess ill do that. its strange that it wont open inside max, is it su
[15:30] <borg29> ask someone who has full version
[15:30] <borg29> where that file resides on his comp
[15:30] <borg29> and just save it there
[15:31] <borg29> anyone has work to show
[15:31] <borg29> pls?
[15:34] <borg29> why noone wants to show his work?
[15:37] <Bibendum> It's more likely that the people who are here dont have work to show
[15:37] <Bibendum> here being "alive at the moment"
[15:38] <borg29> why wouldnt they have work?
[15:39] <borg29> Bibendum, do you have some work?
[15:40] <Bibendum> No
[15:41] <borg29> why?
[15:41] <Bibendum> I never finish anything, I get frustrated and stop
[15:42] <borg29> can I see your unfinshed work?
[15:42] <Bibendum> No
[15:42] <borg29> why?
[15:43] <Bibendum> I'm secretive
[15:43] <borg29> hm
[15:44] <borg29> very unfortunate
[15:44] <Bibendum> not from where I'm sitting!
[15:45] <borg29> hm
[15:45] <borg29> I hope you are right
[15:45] <borg29> but I doubt it.
[15:46] <borg29> arnet here supposed to be pure pro's
[15:46] <borg29> arent
[15:46] <Segmental> hey guys
[15:46] <Segmental> i love u
[15:46] <Segmental> :)
[15:46] <borg29> Segmental, I hope you are Blonde/18
[15:47] <Segmental> im a blonde 3yo in diapers what u think
[15:47] <Segmental> lol j/k
[15:47] <Segmental> http://tecfa.unige.ch/~nova/img/simon.jpg
[15:47] <Segmental> how can i acheve those buttons
[15:47] <Segmental> the color one
[15:47] <Segmental> i seem to have a problem making that
[15:47] <Segmental> i tried a circle and used vertices to shape it but i suck
[15:49] <borg29> did you try torus?
[15:49] <Segmental> hm
[15:50] <Segmental> i love u
[15:50] <Segmental> thx
[15:50] <borg29> lol
[15:50] <Segmental> i wanted to use reference images
[15:50] <Segmental> but google has shit for them lol
[15:50] <borg29> google is shit anyway
[15:50] <borg29> just disracts you from problem :)
[15:51] <Segmental> no a real modeller uses images for reference
[15:51] <Segmental> it help u know ;)
[15:51] <borg29> unless you have photographic memory
[15:51] <borg29> in which case images are useless
[15:54] <SINN> what could it be..
[15:54] <SINN> I mean, u know RSI
[15:54] <SINN> I barely can move my fingers
[15:54] <SINN> is it part of rsi?
[15:55] <Segmental> SINN
[15:55] <g|s> could be
[15:55] <Segmental> i have a torus
[15:55] <g|s> are your fingers feeling numb too?
[15:55] <Segmental> if i wanna remove a peice of it
[15:55] <Segmental> what do i do?
[15:55] <Segmental> boolean?
[15:55] <Segmental> vertice delete makes a hole in my poly
[15:55] <borg29> no, he said it
[15:55] <Segmental> :/
[15:55] <borg29> now he is ruined
[15:56] <Segmental> ;/
[15:56] <SINN> dude
[15:56] <SINN> a torus is already booleaned
[15:56] <timbre> lol
[15:56] <SINN> dont you see the hole?
[15:56] <SINN> g|s
[15:57] <SINN> well my fingers feel euh.. malfunctioning
[15:57] <Segmental> uh
[15:57] <timbre> booleaned by a 16-dimensional vortex from an unknown quantum universe
[15:57] <Segmental> i mean front side
[15:57] <SINN> ring finger doesnt respond sometimes
[15:57] <Segmental> i want to chop it in half
[15:57] <Segmental> not ur finger
[15:57] <Segmental> the torus
[15:57] <g|s> SINN -> doctor
[15:57] <SINN> well it just happend
[15:58] <SINN> could be that a nerve in my shoulder is slightly blocked
[15:58] <SINN> thats how it feels
[15:58] <Segmental> k
[15:58] <g|s> or the first attack/sign of RSI
[15:58] * Segmental hug SINN
[15:58] <Segmental> hope u get better :(
[15:58] <SINN> or a brain seasure
[15:58] <g|s> my father had this a few weeks ago.. ring finger started to feel numb and didnt
[15:59] <SINN> well I still can play bach
[15:59] <SINN> it just feels slightly off
[15:59] <SINN> a damn
[15:59] <SINN> would suck to jerk off with left
[15:59] <SINN> I mean
[15:59] <Piccy> Morning.
[15:59] <SINN> use mouse with left
[15:59] <SINN> shit
[16:00] <Segmental> im sure u got a right hand
[16:00] <borg29> Piccy, what do you mean by "morning"?
[16:00] <Segmental> or let one of us help u
[16:00] <Segmental> j/k NO DONT
[16:00] <SINN> Segmental pm
[16:01] <Piccy> Common greeting borg
[16:01] <borg29> in what country?
[16:01] <Piccy> Most of Europe by now
[16:01] <borg29> or should I say galaxy?
[16:01] <borg29> I wouldnt bet
[16:01] <SINN> g|s that would mean im fucked
[16:01] <SINN> cant do my job properly
[16:03] <g|s> well, you usually get a funny looking splint attached to your wrist that render
[16:03] <SINN> hey cool I have my feeling back
[16:04] <SINN> ah well
[16:04] <SINN> im off before I cause more damage
[16:04] <SINN> cheerio!
[16:04] <Segmental> PLEASE HELP ME
[16:04] <Segmental> ill suck whatever
[16:04] <Segmental> 4 people i asked said they dont know :(
[16:07] <Segmental> :(
[16:07] <Martin^> :|
[16:10] <borg29> any pro 3d modeler + artist here?
[16:11] <Segmental> n/m got it, had a slice funcrtion
[16:12] <borg29> so I actualy helped you?
[16:12] <g|s> wow, slice function :P
[16:12] <Martin^> borg29: no, none, go away
[16:13] <borg29> Martin^, please dont scare me away
[16:13] <borg29> I just need some help
[16:13] <borg29> thats all
[16:13] <Martin^> BOOO!!
[16:13] <borg29> buahahahha
[16:16] <borg29> I am still using max6
[16:16] <borg29> is it obsolete?
[16:19] <Martin^> YOU are obsolete. Please initiate self destruct sequence B9
[16:20] <Martin^> thats the one involving the fork and the 50 kgs of furtiliser
[16:21] * OpenGL_ is now known as OpenGL
[16:23] <doublex> max6 isn't obselete :)
[16:23] <doublex> im using it :p
[16:24] <doublex> up until yesterday i was using 3ds max 1.0 beta and it was fine
[16:32] <borg29> any pro can show his work?
[16:35] <Phrizzawh> !seen ataxia
[16:36] <mrHelpman> Phrizzawh, ataxia was last seen on #3dsmax 3 years, 38 days, 11 hours, 40
[16:36] <Phrizzawh> !seen atax*
[16:36] <mrHelpman> No matches were found.
[16:36] <Phrizzawh> ...
[16:36] <Martin^> borg29: www.cgchannel.com www.cgtalk.com www.cgsociety.com
[16:37] <Martin^> my bad, www.cgsociety.org
[16:38] <borg29> can I talk with people there directly?
[16:38] * Anvile slaps Phrizzawh with a 40
[16:38] <TranQui|> lol max 1.0 beta
[16:38] <TranQui|> i remember this
[16:38] <Anvile> borg29 : just ask your question man
[16:38] * Anvile changes topic to 'NO WAREZ | NO BOOLEANS! | no C4D | Don't ask to ask, ASK! |'
[16:39] <Fjooner> hehe
[16:39] <Martin^> borg29: and if you arent actually here to ask a question, rather just to ma
[16:39] <TranQui|> hahah
[16:39] <TranQui|> nice
[16:39] <borg29> I gues you guys are right
[16:39] <borg29> I will be quiet until I have question :)
[16:40] <davzie> Well well, night night you fag lords, and yes, this IS an amsg and I don't c
[16:40] <Martin^> i have that same attitude towards women when im drunk
[16:41] <Martin^> and when i think it pays off, im usually wrong
[16:41] <davzie> How so Martin^?
[16:42] <Anvile> borg29 : didn't you come in here because you needed help?
[16:43] <borg29> Anvile, problem I have cant be simplified to one question
[16:43] <borg29> I need to find a pro
[16:43] <borg29> and talk with him
[16:43] <Anvile> so whats your problem?
[16:44] <borg29> I need graphics artist which do what I want within my budget
[16:44] <borg29> :)
[16:44] <Anvile> oh you need a freelancer
[16:44] <borg29> Yea
[16:44] <Anvile> i thought you had a max related problem
[16:45] <borg29> well
[16:45] <borg29> I know a little max
[16:45] <g|s> "what you want" = "weta"
[16:45] <g|s> "your budget" = "$1"
[16:45] <Anvile> weta?
[16:45] <borg29> no
[16:45] <borg29> its not $1
[16:45] <Piccy> lol
[16:45] <davzie> What is it?
[16:45] <Piccy> exactly G|s
[16:45] <Piccy> exactly.
[16:45] <borg29> maybe $300-$400, but
[16:45] <borg29> there is a lot of work
[16:45] <Piccy> Every fucking client >:|
[16:45] <Anvile> lol
[16:46] <Anvile> okay say, i do a job for 400 bucks
[16:46] <Anvile> what would i be doing
[16:46] <Anvile> for example
[16:46] <borg29> hehe
[16:46] <borg29> well
[16:46] <borg29> you are not going to do web design
[16:46] <borg29> obviously
[16:46] <borg29> I need
[16:46] <Anvile> right
[16:46] <borg29> 3d max + some art
[16:47] <Anvile> you need 3dmax?
[16:47] <borg29> but its very important that you are rtist
[16:47] <borg29> artist
[16:47] <g|s> we all are. sure.
[16:47] <borg29> knowledge of 3d max means nothing
[16:47] <Anvile> uh, sure whatever
[16:47] <borg29> by its own
[16:47] <Piccy> max is a tool
[16:47] <borg29> yea
[16:47] <Piccy> if you make a living using it, you're an artist.
[16:47] <borg29> Piccy
[16:47] <borg29> I could learn max
[16:47] <Martin^> borg29: get a phonebook, look up your local time machine vendor, go back to
[16:47] <borg29> but I would never be artist
[16:48] <Anvile> good idea Martin^
[16:48] <Piccy> Then you couldn't 'learn' max borg
[16:48] <Anvile> you're speaking of experience?
[16:48] <borg29> no I am speaking of talent, you must be able to draw with hand
[16:48] <doublex> he wants picasso in the 3rd dimension?
[16:48] <borg29> pencil and paper
[16:48] <borg29> which I never could
[16:48] <TranQui|> not really
[16:48] <Martin^> borg29: and you must be able to seriously get a fucking grip on yourself
[16:49] <TranQui|> im a terrible sketcher
[16:49] <Martin^> nobody wants to work for your shitty 400 bucks
[16:49] <Piccy> lol
[16:49] <Piccy> exactly
[16:49] <Anvile> hahaha
[16:49] <borg29> maybe
[16:49] <borg29> but
[16:49] <Martin^> no, not maybe, _NO_
[16:49] <Piccy> For every $1,000 you pay, you get to make one outrageous request.
[16:49] <Anvile> well i wouldn't say it like that, borg29, but Martin^ is quite right
[16:49] <Anvile> lol Piccy
[16:49] <TranQui|> $400 you'd get me for a days work , maybe
[16:49] <borg29> I didnt ask that someone from country where salary is $5000 works for me
[16:50] <borg29> if in country in which you reside average salary is $300
[16:50] <Anvile> its not really country-dependant
[16:50] <borg29> then $400 is not so bad
[16:50] <Martin^> im compelled to ask, how old are you borg29?
[16:50] <TranQui|> lol borg i think your wastin your time here, time to go i think
[16:50] <Martin^> and have you ever had a job?
[16:50] * Piccy grins.
[16:50] <borg29> Martin^, I have already one
[16:50] <Piccy> At my company, your $400 gets you 4 hours of work.
[16:51] <borg29> did you guys ever heard about offshore jobs
[16:51] <borg29> china, india, ukraine
[16:51] <borg29> ?
[16:51] <Martin^> dude, wtf
[16:51] <Martin^> =/
[16:51] <borg29> if not,
[16:51] <Piccy> hahaha
[16:51] <borg29> huh
[16:51] <Piccy> then go outsource
[16:51] * Anvile blinks
[16:51] <Segmental> [19:49] <Martin^> nobody wants to work for your shitty 400 bucks
[16:51] <Segmental> ill do it
[16:51] <Piccy> why are you asking western artists in this channel, if you're looking for a 3
[16:51] <borg29> Well, I did not scan all your IP's
[16:52] <Segmental> i only make $200 a week
[16:52] <Segmental> :/
[16:52] <Piccy> Are you a geniune artist Seg?
[16:52] <borg29> beacuse I couldnt know you are all western
[16:52] <Piccy> I mean, your soul has to be tortured, or it's a no-go!
[16:52] <borg29> for example, Segmental is from cz
[16:52] <Martin^> yes Segmental, are you genuine and TRUE to the artist within?
[16:52] <Segmental> i dont do actual art, i do 3d only
[16:52] <Segmental> im from ny
[16:52] <Piccy> Do you weep at the sight of a bag caught in an updraft?
[16:52] <Martin^> do you feel that you can match the requirements that borg29 and his 400 buc
[16:52] <borg29> Martin^, LOL
[16:52] <Segmental> nah i suck
[16:52] <Segmental> here
[16:52] <borg29> hehe
[16:53] <Segmental> http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7890/cheesy5ae.jpg
[16:53] <Segmental> see how bad i suck
[16:53] <Segmental> made my own version of simon lol
[16:53] <borg29> Martin^ got me wrong
[16:53] <borg29> I did not intend to undervalue anyones job
[16:53] <borg29> also
[16:53] <borg29> how do you know what I have
[16:53] <Piccy> http://24.150.57.108/3d/qComptest3.mov
[16:53] <borg29> maybe
[16:54] <borg29> you can do it 4 hours
[16:54] <Martin^> no, your parents go you wrong, when you where concieved =/
[16:54] <borg29> in 4 hours
[16:54] <doublex> borg29: maybe if instead of begging for an artist you make a webpage with a
[16:54] <doublex> then us helpless irc monkeys don't have to listen to your pleading
[16:54] <Piccy> there are a hundred "get a freelancer" sites out there
[16:54] <Piccy> you'll get offshore people offering to do it for peanuts.
[16:54] <Martin^> borg29: and you still havent told anyone what this wonderfull job might con
[16:54] <Piccy> If you were an artist Martin.
[16:54] <Piccy> You'd already know
[16:55] <borg29> Martin^, I know you are frustated with your career, but I am not the one who
[16:55] <Martin^> aaah yes of course
[16:55] <reddino> :>
[16:55] <Martin^> how did you know i was frustrated with my career?
[16:55] <Ta|isman> oooh what's this - a bitch fight? :D
[16:55] <Martin^> and, how do you know what i do ?
[16:55] <reddino> ola ola :>
[16:55] <borg29> its obvious :)
[16:55] <Piccy> yes Ta|!
[16:55] <Piccy> get in on it.
[16:55] <Martin^> are you a fucking stalker?!?!
[16:55] <borg29> hehe
[16:55] <borg29> no but its so obvious
[16:55] <doublex> Talisman: you were right about perspective
[16:55] <Martin^> so tell me, what do i do, and why am i frustrated
[16:55] <borg29> its painfully obvious
[16:56] <doublex> hes a jigalo with fatally low blood pressure
[16:56] <borg29> Martin^, you do job (no matter which) which requires high skills, and yet yo
[16:56] <borg29> earn
[16:56] <borg29> so it must be very hard for you
[16:56] <Ta|isman> ok... time to chill I think
[16:56] <borg29> nevermind
[16:57] <Piccy> Things are getting ugly.
[16:57] <Ta|isman> take it to a private convo ;)
[16:57] <Martin^> well ill give you that, you are actually somewhat correct
[16:57] <borg29> I know, I am in same shit :)
[16:57] <Piccy> they've bonded :D
[16:57] <doublex> lol
[16:57] * Piccy plays a gentle tune on a harp.
[16:57] <borg29> actually I need blocks
[16:57] <borg29> if thats expensive
[16:57] <borg29> I dont know whats cheap
[16:57] <reddino> lets make a short film :\
[16:57] <Martin^> you still havent said what you want
[16:58] <Piccy> We quoted a cinder block job at $10,000 not long ago.
[16:58] <Martin^> what the project is
[16:58] <Piccy> hey reddi
[16:58] <Piccy> how've you been?
[16:58] <borg29> did you ever see arcanoid style game
[16:58] <borg29> well if you did
[16:58] <reddino> goo sup picciano :>
[16:58] <borg29> I need blocks
[16:58] <borg29> which apear in it
[16:58] <Piccy> not much man
[16:58] <borg29> if thats complicated
[16:58] <borg29> whats simple?
[16:58] <Martin^> uhm, you want boxes?
[16:58] <doublex> lol
[16:58] <Martin^> squares?
[16:58] * doublex opens mspaint
[16:58] <borg29> yea, but of course
[16:58] <borg29> not just boxes
[16:58] <borg29> they must look nice
[16:59] <Martin^> ooooh right
[16:59] <Martin^> nice boxes
[16:59] * doublex closes mspaint and opens photshop
[16:59] <borg29> maybe with some details on them
[16:59] <Piccy> LOL double
[16:59] <Martin^> thats an additional 250$ fee
[16:59] <Martin^> for the nice-part
[16:59] <doublex> i love this irc channel
[16:59] <borg29> You probably thought I want some rigged warrior
[16:59] <Martin^> i love myself
[16:59] <Piccy> double -- there's a borg29 in once a week, it seems
[16:59] <borg29> with 86 textures on it
[16:59] <doublex> lolo
[17:00] <borg29> lol
[17:00] <borg29> you guys are really funny
[17:00] <Martin^> olololololo
[17:00] <Martin^> no seriously borg29, we arent, now go away
[17:00] <Martin^> :(
[17:00] <borg29> hehe
[17:01] <borg29> Martin^, I can help you overcome your stress (without valium ;)
[17:01] <borg29> just meditation
[17:01] <borg29> lol
[17:01] <Martin^> oh great, you're a hippie too
[17:01] <borg29> just kidding
[17:01] <Piccy> martin -- porn works too.
[17:01] <borg29> hehe
[17:01] <borg29> as is swiming
[17:01] <g|s> i get lots of retalin and valium spam Martin^.. maybe i should forward it to yo
[17:01] <borg29> we can all do that
[17:02] <borg29> actually if he buys spam fighter
[17:02] <Martin^> g|s: that would be so nice of you ^^
[17:02] <borg29> he will have all mails he needs in folder SPAM
[17:03] <borg29> so
[17:03] <borg29> anyone interested in 400 bucks?
[17:04] <Piccy> No thanks borg
[17:04] <Martin^> yes, but not from you
[17:04] <Piccy> That question is misleading, regardless ;).
[17:04] <Piccy> "Would anyone consider doing a job which pays $400 total?" would be more accu
[17:04] <borg29> no one wants to work and everyone is complaining about money
[17:04] <Piccy> I'm not complaining about money
[17:04] <Piccy> and I make a great living in 3d.
[17:05] <g|s> where are you from anyway, borg29?
[17:05] <Piccy> How old're you?
[17:05] <borg29> Piccy, lets be sincere
[17:05] <Fjooner> I'll trade 400 boxes with 4 random textures for 400 bucks?
[17:05] <Piccy> Sincere?
[17:05] <Piccy> What do you want me to be sincere about?
[17:05] <borg29> no one has enough money
[17:05] <borg29> complaining about money
[17:06] <borg29> Piccy whats your salary?
[17:06] <reddino> dont tell thats not public
[17:06] <Piccy> exactly.
[17:06] <reddino> borg what is yours
[17:06] <borg29> g|s I am from mesopotamia
[17:06] <borg29> reddino, mine is really low
[17:06] <reddino> oh :\
[17:07] <borg29> as you could see from my offer
[17:07] <reddino> what offer sorry i just log in
[17:07] <reddino> :(
[17:07] <Piccy> non-specific
[17:07] <borg29> I am offering $400 for professional artist+3d designer
[17:07] <borg29> to finish some artwork I need
[17:07] <Piccy> It's not much in this industry
[17:07] <Piccy> and you're offering it for a non-specific job
[17:08] <reddino> 400$ how much time you need the artist ?
[17:08] <borg29> about 50 blocks
[17:08] <g|s> what kind of blocks?
[17:08] <borg29> thats $8 per block
[17:08] <Piccy> I can make 50 squares in max right now.
[17:08] <Piccy> give me 5 mins.
[17:08] <Piccy> If that's all the job entails.
[17:08] <Fjooner> cityblocks?
[17:08] <reddino> 5? 1 minute use maxscript :p
[17:08] <Martin^> reddino: or array ?
[17:08] <Martin^> :P
[17:08] <Piccy> lol, red's got me beat.
[17:08] <reddino> lazyboi
[17:08] <borg29> I know to make loop in max script too
[17:08] <borg29> but point is
[17:08] <borg29> that
[17:09] <reddino> mm maxscript rather than parray :p
[17:09] <borg29> they need to be nice and different
[17:09] <reddino> what do you mean with blocks man
[17:09] <Martin^> oh just give up
[17:09] <Martin^> seriously
[17:09] <borg29> where can I upload image
[17:09] <borg29> to show you
[17:09] <reddino> www.imageshack.us
[17:09] <g|s> i need a few seconds ;) create box: 1.5s, create plane: 1.5s scatter mod: 1s, t
[17:09] <Martin^> he isn't even able to explain what he wants, he's on a $400 private budget,
[17:10] <reddino> 3d professional on what
[17:10] <reddino> particles ? modeling ? rigging ? animation ?
[17:10] <Martin^> on crack
[17:10] <reddino> texturing, lighting ?
[17:10] <Piccy> lol
[17:10] <Piccy> An entire 3d house red
[17:10] <reddino> scripting ? :\
[17:10] <borg29> reddino, just art + modeling
[17:10] <reddino> oh :\
[17:10] <borg29> nothing more
[17:10] <borg29> I dont need animation
[17:10] <Piccy> no renders?
[17:10] <borg29> rigging
[17:10] <borg29> particles
[17:10] <borg29> also
[17:10] <reddino> well i was considered a cg pro and i dont know how to model tho
[17:10] <reddino> :\
[17:11] <borg29> also it does not need to be rendered
[17:11] <reddino> show a pic
[17:11] <borg29> just modeled
[17:11] <Piccy> lol red
[17:11] <Piccy> you don't need to model
[17:11] <Piccy> we've seen your pfx :P
[17:11] <borg29> anyone knows place where I can upload image
[17:11] <reddino> my work is to destroy stuff
[17:11] <reddino> not to create :(
[17:11] <Piccy> imageshack.us
[17:11] <g|s> there are plenty
[17:11] <Martin^> borg29: hey, i got 400 bucks that say whatever it is you're trying to do, i
[17:11] <Piccy> >:)
[17:11] <reddino> www.imageshack.us UPLOAD HERE
[17:12] <doublex> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/city.ch?ip=89.146.135.171 <---- tracert of
[17:12] <borg29> just a min
[17:12] <doublex> 'High rate of fraud' :D
[17:12] <reddino> 400$ is not bad depends on how many hours needed
[17:12] <Piccy> Bosanac!
[17:12] <borg29> http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sample23ha.jpg
[17:13] <borg29> here you have your blocks
[17:13] <reddino> oh :|
[17:13] <Piccy> Dude, if you live in Bosna, you shouldn't be trying to hire Yankees
[17:13] <Piccy> Your economy can't afford them
[17:13] <Piccy> Hell, can't even afford Canucks ;)
[17:13] <borg29> you can never know
[17:13] <Piccy> Hrvatska Borg
[17:13] <borg29> hehe
[17:13] <reddino> i saw the pic borg29
[17:13] <Piccy> but I live in canada
[17:13] <borg29> so
[17:14] <reddino> as i said i am not a modeler
[17:14] <reddino> i cant model a cup of coffe :|
[17:14] <doublex> borg you don't need 3ds max for that lol
[17:14] <borg29> I need because these blocks are 3d
[17:14] * Piccy watches as doublex opens MS Paint again.
[17:14] <doublex> just generate the blocks with cpp
[17:14] <doublex> ;)
[17:14] <borg29> hehe
[17:14] <Piccy> alright, I'm off to see some more family.
[17:14] <reddino> use swift3d
[17:14] <borg29> thats the point
[17:14] * Piccy mutters something about Holidays.
[17:14] <reddino> hehea
[17:14] <doublex> borg if you use 3ds max you are gonna have to write a 3ds loader
[17:14] <reddino> laterz picciano
[17:14] * sdfsdf is now known as timbre_
[17:14] <Piccy> Good luck with all thi sfolks ;)
[17:14] <borg29> I want blocks which cant be generated with cpp :)
[17:14] <Piccy> later reddie
[17:15] <doublex> anything can be generated with cpp
[17:15] <borg29> Piccy, see ya
[17:15] <borg29> have fun
[17:15] <borg29> ;)
[17:15] <borg29> yes, but I am not in a mood to write procedural geometry routines
[17:15] <reddino> well i am not usefull for that tho
[17:15] <reddino> :|
[17:16] <reddino> though you need something more like this http://img233.imageshack.us/img233
[17:16] <reddino> :|
[17:16] <doublex> im not in the 3d business or anything, but asking professionals to make 8 p
[17:16] <borg29> doublex, these boxes are ugly
[17:16] <doublex> yes
[17:16] <BiowaX> borg29: are the buildings supposed to be viewed from the top mostly ? ( tryi
[17:17] <borg29> BiowaX, those are not buildings
[17:17] <borg29> did you guys ever played arcanoid style game
[17:17] <BiowaX> well, no, then i failed to understand the picture
[17:17] <reddino> yes
[17:17] <reddino> arkanoid was a spaceship
[17:18] <borg29> point is to break blocks with ball
[17:18] <reddino> but the game looks like a stick and a ball destroying rectangles
[17:18] <reddino> :>
[17:18] <BiowaX> well, the blocks you are blasting is buildinglevels then ?
[17:18] <borg29> no
[17:18] <borg29> they are nothing realistic
[17:18] <BiowaX> oh, thats the arcanoid ball flying there with sparks..now i get it
[17:18] <BiowaX> :>
[17:18] <borg29> just abstract boxes
[17:19] <borg29> thats why it should be easy
[17:19] <borg29> you dont need to make something realistic
[17:19] <reddino> here arkanoid
[17:19] <reddino> http://www.fraserking.co.uk/arcade/screenshots/arkanoid-2.jpg
[17:19] <borg29> reddino, exactly
[17:19] <borg29> but this is 3d
[17:19] <borg29> I can provide 3d max plugin
[17:19] <borg29> for export
[17:20] <Anvile> arkanoid FTW
[17:20] <Anvile> @#$#@
[17:20] <borg29> and program in which you can see how it will actually look
[17:20] <reddino> hehe anyways i am not usefull
[17:20] <borg29> I mean
[17:20] <reddino> that will take some time and i am looking for some time
[17:21] <reddino> you should go to cgtalk or any forum
[17:21] <reddino> to get cheap work :>
[17:21] <borg29> I am not patient enough to wait on reply
[17:21] <reddino> then add more money :>
[17:21] <reddino> patience vs money
[17:21] <borg29> and I thought I could right away explain what I need
[17:21] <BiowaX> borg29: then how will the buildings be displayed in the game
[17:22] <borg29> BiowaX, did you see image I posted?
[17:22] <BiowaX> yepp
[17:22] <borg29> thats how I want them
[17:22] <reddino> http://i.games-here.com/3d_crackanoid_ultra.jpg
[17:22] <reddino> arkanoid 3d
[17:22] <borg29> just much prettier
[17:23] <borg29> reddino, I need much nicer graphics than that
[17:23] <borg29> and some art
[17:23] <BiowaX> and each of those objects in that picture is needed as a building block in 3
[17:24] <reddino> http://www.pcsharewaregames.com/images/screnshoot/bricks-of-camelot.jpg
[17:24] <reddino> like this ? hehe
[17:24] <BiowaX> sorry, must be late, im just having difficulties grasping the idea :\
[17:24] <reddino> particles on ball just like yours
[17:24] <reddino> :p
[17:24] <borg29> reddino, thats 2D game
[17:24] <reddino> well
[17:24] <reddino> then you need more money
[17:25] <reddino> to get what you want man
[17:25] <reddino> nobody will spend a week for 400$
[17:25] <borg29> yea
[17:25] <g|s> who needs a week to build those little block thingies?
[17:25] <Segmental> ill do it in 3d for u
[17:25] * Segmental licks you all
[17:25] <reddino> http://www.globalshareware.com/Games/Arcade/screenshots/Brixout-XP.gif
[17:25] <reddino> like this ?
[17:26] <borg29> reddino, thats idea
[17:26] <borg29> but those blocks are all the same
[17:28] <Segmental> i should make Super Mario Land 3d
[17:28] <Segmental> well not a game but ideas in rendering
[17:28] <borg29> this is main screen
[17:28] <borg29> http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sample15wp.jpg
[17:28] <reddino> like this ?
[17:28] <reddino> http://www.edharriss.com/interview/cg_channel/Welcome%20to%20CG%20Channel_f
[17:28] <reddino> lmfao
[17:29] <borg29> this picture is noice for background
[17:29] <borg29> nice
[17:29] <reddino> http://www.edharriss.com/interview/cg_channel/Welcome%20to%20CG%20Channel_f
[17:30] <Anvile> xsi does water simulation?
[17:30] <borg29> huh
[17:30] <Anvile> or am i looking at it wrong
[17:30] <Anvile> nm
[17:30] <Anvile> lol
[17:30] <reddino> "
[17:31] <borg29> Ok, can I know whats the acceptable price for job like this?
[17:31] <borg29> Martin^?
[17:32] <g|s> nobody really knows what you exactly need
[17:32] <borg29> I showed you image
[17:32] <g|s> we just had a few like 30 square pixel size thingies to look at :P
[17:32] <borg29> I need blocks for 10 "areas" in game
[17:33] <borg29> maybe 4-5 blocks per area
[17:34] <borg29> "areas" all of them
[17:34] <borg29> will have few types of blocks and their "theme". Art (for in game screens )
[17:34] * TranQui| sighs
[17:35] <borg29> You would get plugin for 3d max which exports to my format, and program in w
[17:35] <borg29> so how much would that cost?
[18:18] <timbre_> 'boomkat' is amazing, its the ultimate example of a record distributor's we
[18:52] <kryps> my viewports are showing every pair of triangle polys of every face. how do
[18:58] <gkmotu> kryps..
[18:59] <kryps> gk
[18:59] <gkmotu> did we release anything at bp? exept the 4k?
[19:00] <gkmotu> donno what your talking about up there...did u try hit f4? its not that..eh,
[19:00] <kryps> not sure about the releases
[19:00] <gkmotu> k
[19:01] <kryps> for example, if i draw a box. the 6 faces have two triangle shaped-poly faces
[19:02] <shea_> it's a viewport setting somewhere
[19:02] <shea_> 'show triangle faces' or 'show coplanar faces' or something i forget the exac
[19:02] <shea_> er, edges
[19:05] <kryps> If I change the video card in my computer, it solves the problem.
[19:05] <gkmotu> open GL?
[19:06] <kryps> if i run "3dsmax.exe -h", it selects Direct3D Device Hardware (HAL) for me.
[19:06] <kryps> oh wait
[19:07] <kryps> i clicked 'Revert from Direct 3D' button at bottom
[19:07] <kryps> ahhh, sweet, allows me to switch back to Software again
[19:07] <kryps> fixed
[19:07] <gkmotu> open gl is nice
[19:07] <gkmotu> faster than software..when having bigger scenes
[19:07] <kryps> I did open gl, and i thin it crashed max at a certain view of a specific scen
[19:07] <kryps> thin = think
[19:07] <gkmotu> hmmz
[19:09] <timbre_> cocaine fucks my life dammit
[19:09] <gkmotu> allright have fun kryps
[19:09] <gkmotu> yes
[19:10] <borg29> you are taking cocaine?
[19:10] <gkmotu> dont take it
[19:10] <timbre_> i had this 2 grams of coke
[19:10] <gkmotu> im out
[19:10] <timbre_> gkmotu was it you i talked about months ago
[19:10] <timbre_> year ago maybe
[19:11] <timbre_> im having a cocaine problem indeed
[19:11] <timbre_> problem is that it feels too good
[19:11] <timbre_> cocaine and alcohol
[19:11] <timbre_> the bomb
[19:12] <borg29> if you feel good, whats the problem then?
[19:13] <timbre_> the price
[19:13] <timbre_> and its fakeness
[19:13] * Anvile cockslaps timbre_
[19:13] <Anvile> weakling
[19:13] <borg29> well, price could be the problem
[19:13] * Anvile lights a joint
[19:13] <borg29> how much coke you can get for $400, LOL
[19:13] <Ta|isman> cocaine turns ppl into assholes
[19:13] <timbre_> some lines of cocaine make your problems go down the drain
[19:14] <Ta|isman> just drop.... it#s as easy as that
[19:14] <Ta|isman> if you really think that
[19:14] <timbre_> $400 ??? thats like a LOT of coke
[19:15] <borg29> so my offer wasnt bad after all?
[20:02] <TranQui|> Well
[20:03] <TranQui|> if your not opposed to doin coke, you should just do meth, cheaper and its
[20:04] <TranQui|> theres a reason its the new popular drug of the world, its like coke and s
[20:04] <TranQui|> obviously health wise its all bad for ya, but if yur already doin one, hav
[20:22] * Disconnected
[20:22] * Attempting to rejoin channel #3dsmax
[20:22] * Rejoined channel #3dsmax
[20:22] * Topic is 'NO WAREZ | NO BOOLEANS! | no C4D | Don't ask to ask, ASK! |'
[20:22] * Set by Anvile!Anvile@steroidz.xs4all.nl on Sun Apr 16 16:38:50
[20:22] -mrHelpman- Hello and welcome to #3dsmax. This is a NO WAREZ channel, please do NOT ask us
[20:28] <trev-> is it possible to copy some animation keys from one file to another?
[20:44] <spazmo> hi
[20:44] <spazmo> how do i snap to grid when resizing an object
[20:56] <spazmo> hello
[20:56] <spazmo> how do u work with this snap
[21:22] <TranQui|> http://www.theshyt.com/lowpolymodels/facialdetailing.jpg
[22:44] <Gimble> do you guys have warez ?
[22:44] <Gimble> i need 3dsmax warez version
[22:44] <Gimble> please give it to me
[22:45] <Gimble> i swear i wont tell the Federals
[22:45] <Gimble> or even the local police
Session Close: Mon Apr 17 00:00:00 2006