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Session Start: Thu Apr 13 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:00] <WotGoril> heh, I'm going to have to write up a whole web page about how much work it
[00:01] <WotGoril> You would think the Archeologist for the wreck sites would have this all f
[00:54] * ST|AFK is now known as Strikee
[01:31] <Aqua|Work> doesnt max have default motion blur
[01:32] <WotGoril> In scanline renderer
[01:33] <WotGoril> LOL they are having undercover Cops go into bars and arrest drunk people a
[01:37] <g|s> where?
[01:37] <g|s> i mean: where in the US?
[01:37] <g|s> ;)
[02:33] <Aqua|Work> LOL
[03:42] <AceOvArtx> http://www.the118118team.com/
[04:21] <dkam> hi im searching for a freelancer for a 3d character girl.
[04:21] <dkam> Please pm me
[04:21] <dkam> :-)
[04:27] <SINN> thursday the 13th omg!
[04:27] <Aqua|Work> OMG
[04:28] <vader_dk> OMG
[04:28] <Aqua|Work> taxes!!
[04:28] <Aqua|Work> OMG
[04:28] <vader_dk> hehe
[04:28] <vader_dk> well
[04:29] <SINN> yeah o well
[04:29] <SINN> hey.. isn't there a way to render through max raysat over the web?
[04:30] <vader_dk> duno about the raysat - but you can use backburner thougha vpn
[04:30] <vader_dk> so guess you could
[04:30] <SINN> I wonder if you can put this in some spyware :p
[04:30] <vader_dk> lol
[04:30] <SINN> too bad when one host dies, the whole render dies
[04:30] <SINN> which is sad :(
[04:31] <SINN> but its a great idea :)
[04:31] <vader_dk> am i correct if i say that you cant deactivate an OEM installed Microstoft
[04:31] <SINN> what you think S.E.T.I was
[04:31] <SINN> looking for alien life , yeah righ...
[04:31] <SINN> speeding up their renders.. ;)
[04:32] <SINN> vader_dk euhm
[04:32] <SINN> call microsoft bout it
[04:32] <vader_dk> its easter
[04:32] <SINN> software activation line
[04:32] <vader_dk> holiday here
[04:33] <SINN> as if you cant activate your software on holidays
[04:33] <SINN> and they outsource all the helpdesks to the middle east right? hehe
[04:33] <vader_dk> hmm hehe havet tryed
[04:33] <vader_dk> never used an oem version before
[04:33] <vader_dk> but oem does tie you up on one comp right
[04:33] <SINN> I never used office before
[04:34] <vader_dk> how do you make bills ?
[04:34] <vader_dk> openOffice?
[04:34] <SINN> I dont
[04:34] <SINN> I never charge
[04:34] <SINN> hehe
[04:35] <SINN> I thought thats what the term "freelancer" meant?
[04:35] <SINN> hehe nah kidding ;)
[04:35] <vader_dk> haha
[04:35] <vader_dk> :D
[04:35] <SINN> I dont use office often, I hate it
[04:35] <vader_dk> "free"Lancer
[04:35] <vader_dk> gonna use that i think :D
[04:35] <SINN> but how you want to install it on another pc?
[04:35] <SINN> do you have the cd?
[04:36] <SINN> or was it installed on the system already.
[04:36] <vader_dk> actually its not my problem its the old folks - but yea got a cd
[04:36] <vader_dk> they just got a dell pc
[04:36] <SINN> o no
[04:36] <vader_dk> and wanted their old comp files over to the new one
[04:36] <vader_dk> incl programs
[04:37] <vader_dk> and they've got office on the old one, but not on the new one
[04:37] <SINN> well online activation works with ms products, so online deactivation should b
[04:37] <vader_dk> ye - but cant find a deactivate button :D
[04:38] <vader_dk> kinda wierd
[04:38] <SINN> then its not there hehe
[04:38] <SINN> well actually the could have done this because they dont trust you
[04:38] <SINN> and you have to call to reactivate it
[04:38] <vader_dk> true
[04:39] <SINN> they have a list with hardware codes of the machines and the amount of activat
[04:39] <vader_dk> ye
[04:40] <SINN> but they want to make sure its removed from the other machine
[04:40] <SINN> so you just say that the machine died
[04:40] <SINN> and now have a new one :)
[04:41] <vader_dk> heh - or wait for monday and see if i can buy a ed from my work cheap
[04:41] <vader_dk> dont what to use to much time on that crap
[04:41] <SINN> or use one of their serials ;)
[04:42] <SINN> im not sure if MS works with network licenses aswell.
[04:42] <vader_dk> nah we can get a copy for like 50$
[04:42] <SINN> yeah its cheap tho, why pirate
[04:42] <SINN> its worth the money!
[04:42] <vader_dk> ye
[04:43] <vader_dk> i have just been used to enterprise ed. and coperate ed due to my former w
[04:43] <vader_dk> so this is all new
[04:45] <vader_dk> kinda wierd never thought it was hard :D
[04:46] <vader_dk> SINN any new work to show ?
[04:46] <SINN> nah just a phone
[04:46] <SINN> and before that a car
[04:47] <vader_dk> hm ok
[04:47] <SINN> I need to fix the paint of the car tho
[04:48] <SINN> http://dgreyz.migee.com/images/siemens.jpg
[04:48] <SINN> phone
[04:48] <vader_dk> ud nice
[04:48] <SINN> http://dgreyz.migee.com/images/blue.jpg car
[04:48] <vader_dk> eh what Benq and siemens
[04:49] <SINN> yea
[04:49] <SINN> this model is already released right :S
[04:49] <vader_dk> doest seems that the buttons can glow
[04:49] <vader_dk> i duno
[04:49] <SINN> well I hope so
[04:49] <vader_dk> not a cellphone guy
[04:49] <SINN> ah well I Dont care
[04:49] <vader_dk> all looks the sem
[04:49] <vader_dk> same*
[04:49] <SINN> im not sure I modelled it from reference pics people sent me
[04:50] <vader_dk> :]
[04:50] <SINN> looks alike, so I guess its ok
[04:50] <SINN> hehe
[04:51] <SINN> well and that car..
[04:53] <SINN> vader_dk do you use MR ?
[04:53] <vader_dk> hardly
[04:53] <vader_dk> only for some RGB pass's but thats still only for testing
[04:54] <SINN> ah I See
[05:10] <SINN> you know that music style you used to hear in demos
[05:10] <SINN> what is it called?
[05:10] <SINN> that old game sound
[05:14] <g|s> usually mods made with trackers
[05:15] <SINN> yea
[05:15] <SINN> but no special name for it?
[05:15] <g|s> no
[05:15] <SINN> http://www.kohina.com/
[05:15] <SINN> here they have streamings of them
[05:15] <SINN> I luv em
[05:21] <SINN> ok, they start getting annoying aswell
[05:23] <Anvile> http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/thesimpsonsmovie/teaser/
[05:23] <Anvile> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:24] <SINN> excellent
[05:25] <Anvile> gotta love the simpsons
[05:27] <SINN> yeah
[05:49] * W_Bro is now known as fM][W_Bro
[05:54] <Piccy> quick question?
[05:55] <SINN> shoot
[06:03] <madkarma> i wonder how your slow questions are
[06:04] <Piccy> lol
[06:04] <Piccy> sorry
[06:04] * Anvile falls asleep
[06:04] <Anvile> *Z*
[06:04] <Piccy> Using blobmesh to screw around with liquid sims
[06:04] <Piccy> but when I make the blobmesh transparent
[06:05] <Piccy> the base particles show through
[06:05] <Piccy> any way to make the particles non-renderable, and the mesh visible?
[06:06] <Anvile> rightclick > properties > visible to camera
[06:06] <Anvile> but i dunno if that removes everything
[06:06] <Piccy> I think it does
[06:06] <Anvile> then try unchecking "renderable"
[06:07] <Anvile> or explore the other options
[06:09] <SINN> Anvile!
[06:09] <SINN> hows the car doing?
[06:09] <SINN> still renderin ;)
[06:10] <Anvile> lol
[06:10] <Anvile> no
[06:10] <Anvile> aborted
[06:11] <SINN> but why??
[06:11] <SINN> hehe
[06:11] <Anvile> was taking too long, and didn't like the paint, and the reflection of the ri
[06:11] <Anvile> .. or the background
[06:11] <SINN> metallic paint !
[06:12] <SINN> hey, brazil have carpaint shaders build in
[06:12] <Anvile> no
[06:12] <Anvile> thats blasphemy
[06:12] <Anvile> on an enzo
[06:12] <SINN> whats that?
[06:12] <Piccy> got it :)
[06:13] <Anvile> enzo..
[06:13] <Anvile> thats how the car is called
[06:13] <Anvile> :P
[06:13] <SINN> I know, but what it blasphemy
[06:13] <SINN> is
[06:13] <Anvile> heiligschennis
[06:13] <Anvile> :P
[06:13] <SINN> oh well im not such a sinner
[06:13] <SINN> how would I know ^^
[06:14] <Anvile> anyway
[06:14] <Anvile> i think i got the color right now
[06:14] <SINN> so what you gonna do?
[06:14] <Anvile> i'll make a render later todya
[06:14] <Anvile> ay
[06:15] <SINN> u know ziekenfonds is pretty much
[06:15] <SINN> I pay frigging 100 eurs amonth :S
[06:15] <Anvile> expensive?
[06:15] <Anvile> yeah me too
[06:15] <Anvile> one month they did a double
[06:15] <Anvile> 210 euros
[06:15] <Anvile> :|
[06:15] <SINN> w00t
[06:15] <SINN> why?
[06:15] <Anvile> thats what i pay for a damn screen
[06:15] <Anvile> dunno
[06:16] <SINN> oh dont let me start about a visit to the dentist
[06:16] <SINN> really that makes you brush your teeth very well hehe
[06:17] <SINN> maybe its all about that
[06:17] <Anvile> hehe
[06:17] <Anvile> dentist sux :/
[06:17] <SINN> huh?
[06:17] * Anvile pokes Xenia22
[06:17] <SINN> poke of death
[06:17] <Anvile> :|
[06:17] <Anvile> hehe
[06:17] <Anvile> wasn't poking THAT hard
[06:18] <SINN> yeah dentist opens your mouth , just presses there n here and is like "hmm see
[06:18] <SINN> and I dont know about the costs, but that 1 minute you sit there would cost li
[06:18] <SINN> gee
[06:18] <SINN> 60 eurs a minute..
[06:20] <SINN> xenia22 isnt that a bot?
[06:23] <Anvile> ya
[06:23] <Anvile> thats why i poked it
[06:23] <Anvile> i think thats why it quit
[06:24] <Anvile> if it sees its name mentioned, means it has been discovered and is useless
[06:24] <SINN> hmm
[06:25] <SINN> very smart
[06:56] <_Dante> huh, kickban Wendy15
[06:56] <_Dante> trying to dcc something when i joined here
[06:57] <_Dante> [16:55] -Wendy15- DCC send PornPicturesCollection.rar (83.27.131.34)
[06:59] <suurland> if you got the file can i have it too?
[06:59] <suurland> sounds good
[06:59] <SINN> :o
[07:00] <SINN> I think that An4rchy is a bot too
[07:00] <SINN> at least its not bugging people orsomething.
[07:02] <SINN> what the.. private number calls me.. trying to sell me something.
[07:03] <SINN> its pretty lame that you cant trust anybody anymore when you give them your pr
[07:04] <g|s> i suspect him of being a bot.
[07:06] <SINN> wtf
[07:07] <g|s> i thought you were a bot.
[07:07] <g|s> :P
[07:08] <SINN> hmm
[07:08] <SINN> :(
[07:08] <SINN> bad bad bad bad boy
[07:09] <SINN> what a +v can do?
[07:09] <g|s> write to the channel when its set to +m, for example
[07:09] <SINN> but other than than
[07:09] <g|s> have their names over the non-v guys in the list :P
[07:11] <SINN> why dont you +v LordCreep
[07:11] <g|s> i think he can +o himself if he wants to
[07:11] <SINN> hmm lets see
[07:12] <mrHelpman> g|s is a bad
[07:12] <g|s> heh
[07:13] <SINN> yeah he can
[07:13] <SINN> vader_dk and whammes because they are german huh
[07:16] <SINN> yeah g|s , you are right
[07:16] <g|s> ahm
[07:16] <g|s> vader_DK
[07:18] <vader_dk> g|s
[07:18] <vader_dk> ?
[07:19] <vader_dk> you crazy german
[07:20] <SINN> ah ok, I thought DE conquered DK
[07:20] <pangloss> DE ROCKS!
[07:20] <pangloss> (sorry; have to root for my country..
[07:20] * SINN sets +b pangloss
[07:21] <pangloss> ?
[07:21] <SINN> yeah, the silly germans.
[07:21] <SINN> killed millions of people
[07:21] <pangloss> Im not a German..
[07:21] <pangloss> I'm an American.. you know.. the people *now* killing millions of people.
[07:22] <SINN> hehe
[07:22] <SINN> well not even close to what germans did I bet
[07:23] <SINN> hundreds of millions
[07:24] <pangloss> I think 6.1 million or something.
[07:24] <SINN> america?
[07:24] <AceOvArtx> american...german...same difference
[07:24] <pangloss> the germans in wwii
[07:24] <pangloss> 6.2 million i think.
[07:24] <SINN> cmon, alone 25 millions of russians died
[07:24] <pangloss> oh, sorryi was talking about civillians.
[07:24] <pangloss> yeah lots of soldiers died.
[07:25] <SINN> I was talking about people
[07:25] <Dr_Rambo> is there a difference?
[07:25] <Dr_Rambo> russian were cilivians
[07:25] <Dr_Rambo> ones that are drafted into it is not professional soldiers
[07:25] <Dr_Rambo> they are no more soldiers than a cilivian with guns
[07:25] <SINN> guns?
[07:25] <pangloss> true
[07:26] <SINN> they didnt even have guns anymore
[07:26] <Dr_Rambo> what I mean is they aren't professional soldiers
[07:26] <SINN> why else you think 25 million died
[07:26] <Dr_Rambo> ofcourse, towards the end, german were drafting childrens into war
[07:27] <pangloss> teh chidrens?
[07:27] <Dr_Rambo> about the american, vietnam war cost 1.5 MILLION lifes. On Vietnamese side
[07:27] <Dr_Rambo> that's 1.5 million american killed
[07:28] <SINN> im not sure about the total frag count of wwII
[07:28] <Dr_Rambo> korean war, close to another million
[07:28] <Dr_Rambo> total frag count of WWII is 50 million
[07:29] <Dr_Rambo> russia and china combine is close to 40 million
[07:29] <Dr_Rambo> while the rest of the world add up
[07:29] <SINN> sad thing
[07:30] <Dr_Rambo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_casualties_by_country
[07:30] <Dr_Rambo> my bad
[07:30] <Dr_Rambo> 62 million
[07:30] <ErnstHot> xylia16 must die.
[07:30] <SINN> a friendly kick
[07:30] <SINN> :)
[07:47] <Piccy> anyone know how to make a starfilter on spec highlights
[07:47] <Piccy> ?
[08:26] <Anvile> ..
[08:30] <Anvile> welcome to the jungle
[08:30] <Anvile> we got fun and games
[08:32] <davzie> LMFAO
[08:32] <davzie> http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ewshoot/2.jpg
[08:32] <davzie> HAIRY ARMS
[08:33] <Anvile> lol
[08:36] <SINN> who is that?
[08:36] <davzie> Emma Watson
[08:36] <BiowaX> that girl in the harry potter movies
[08:36] <davzie> I can't deny that she is hot.
[08:36] <SINN> shes ok
[08:36] <SINN> I had better
[08:36] <SINN> :p
[08:39] <davzie> Shame.
[09:01] * whammes is now known as wh_SPI
[09:09] <Piccy> anyone have a good tutorial for proper water?
[09:09] <Piccy> (texture)
[09:09] <Piccy> ie, out of a glass
[09:09] <Piccy> er, out of a tap.
[09:10] <Anvile> use realflow
[09:10] <Anvile> or try to model it if its not an animation
[09:10] <Anvile> :P
[09:10] <Anvile> and yes, realflow is a very expensive plugin
[09:11] <Piccy> heh, not worried about motion
[09:11] <Piccy> just about the texture
[09:11] <Piccy> gradient ramps, etc
[09:11] <Piccy> to get it to look right
[09:11] * Piccy hates max's transparency.
[09:11] <Anvile> hm
[09:38] * Obfti is now known as WoWbsti
[09:58] * g|s is now known as g|one
[10:15] <WotGoril> aloha
[10:16] * WoWbsti is now known as Obfti
[10:19] <SINN> what the hell
[10:26] <SINN> hey WotGoril
[10:41] <Tranq|Wrk> meep meep
[10:41] <SINN> huh?
[10:41] <Tranq|Wrk> exactly
[10:41] <SINN> only artsnfx does that
[10:41] <SINN> !seen art*
[10:42] <WotGoril> hiya sinn
[10:42] <mrHelpman> I found 9 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): ar
[10:42] <Tranq|Wrk> naww only cool people do that ;) thats what him and I have in common
[10:42] <SINN> artisanfx
[10:42] <Tranq|Wrk> ya gotta remember I been around a long time, he's bound to have rubbed of
[10:43] <WotGoril> heh, I'm going to have to write up a whole web page about how much work it
[10:43] <Tranq|Wrk> haha
[10:43] <Tranq|Wrk> your a dedicated artists
[10:43] <WotGoril> You would think the Archaeologist for the wreck sites would have this all
[10:44] <Tranq|Wrk> now Id like you to calculate the weight of each plank, accounting for wat
[10:44] <WotGoril> LOL
[10:44] <WotGoril> It gets eaten by wood boring marine animals before it gets waterlogged
[10:44] <Tranq|Wrk> ;)
[10:44] <Tranq|Wrk> hehe
[10:45] <Tranq|Wrk> yea all that remains is the shape of the ship made out of algae and coral
[10:45] <WotGoril> and 400 million in gold bars
[10:45] <WotGoril> ;)
[10:45] <Tranq|Wrk> mmm
[10:45] <Tranq|Wrk> gold bars
[10:45] <Tranq|Wrk> Id settle for 400 million gold nuggets
[10:46] <WotGoril> will be interesting to see how much Gold is on this
[10:46] <Tranq|Wrk> the ship your doing now, is it for an investigative documentary? or have
[10:46] <WotGoril> Doing both the Atocha and Margarita
[10:47] <WotGoril> There's been a few documentaries on them, but nobody has ever made a paint
[10:47] <Tranq|Wrk> have you done any more recent animations of the ship rolling in the storm
[10:48] <Tranq|Wrk> i dunno when i saw it last, was a while ago
[10:48] <Tranq|Wrk> but impressive to say the least
[10:48] <WotGoril> not yet, still working on the ship, had to do a bunch of research this wee
[10:49] <WotGoril> http://www.adirondack.net/history/3dhistory/wavetest1.mov was the last tes
[10:50] <WotGoril> abd =and
[10:51] <WotGoril> but that's the norm, I usually spend more time researching stuff than actu
[10:53] <WotGoril> I started doing the modeling of the ship but found out that the Archaeolog
[10:54] <WotGoril> Luckily I didn't do too much, just enough to figure out what I did wrong w
[10:54] <WotGoril> http://www.adirondack.net/history/3dhistory/galleonwip02.jpg
[10:55] <art|sanFX> m33p
[10:57] <Tranq|Wrk> haha
[10:58] <Tranq|Wrk> Sinn gave me shit for stealin yur meep meep
[10:58] <Tranq|Wrk> and i didnt even know i stole it
[11:00] <SINN> huh?
[11:00] <SINN> hehe yea
[11:01] <Tranq|Wrk> wot : I think that you put alot of work into this eh? hehehe it shows you
[11:02] <WotGoril> might as well be right if you are going to do it
[11:02] <WotGoril> plus it will make it faster to model when I finally have all the right siz
[11:03] <WotGoril> I hate guessing
[11:06] <WotGoril> But I'll get a lot of milage out of the model, Have to do documentaries, M
[11:09] <WotGoril> heh, And Investor DVDs
[11:10] <WotGoril> there's at least another 100 ships out there loaded with at least 100-400
[11:15] <art|sanFX> Tranq|Wrk ?
[11:15] <art|sanFX> u stealing my m33p
[11:15] <art|sanFX> :) dam u
[11:15] <Tranq|Wrk> lol
[11:15] <Tranq|Wrk> yea what can i say
[11:17] <art|sanFX> :) we will see us for the judge
[11:17] <art|sanFX> i have the C for thet m33p
[11:18] <WotGoril> You could do P33m instead
[11:18] <Tranq|Wrk> I am using your m33p but offering full credit to yourself
[11:18] <WotGoril> ;)
[11:18] <art|sanFX> i have the copyright man and u will credit it to me
[11:19] <art|sanFX> :) wot
[11:19] <art|sanFX> p33m
[11:19] <WotGoril> You can write a script that will take out a dollar from his paypal account
[11:19] <art|sanFX> sounds like brocking noise or u have some cold
[11:19] <art|sanFX> hmm good idee
[11:20] <art|sanFX> i open a account on wolrdpay
[11:20] <art|sanFX> and u can pay on that :)
[11:21] <WotGoril> Lay claim to it
[11:21] <WotGoril> heh
[11:21] <SINN> yay
[11:21] <WotGoril> That's what we plan to do with all those treasure ships, File ownership of
[11:21] <SINN> Anvile hows the render
[11:22] <art|sanFX> but i forget i get some new soundcard thats why i just m33p one time
[11:22] <WotGoril> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lasalle/owners.html
[11:22] <WotGoril> heh
[11:22] <art|sanFX> i think i will chance my sound to moop
[11:24] <SINN> kewl
[11:24] <art|sanFX> after titanik and poseidon now there will be also filmed Andrea Doria or
[11:25] <SINN> nobody knows about that
[11:25] <WotGoril> One of my best friends is the top Side Scan sonar guy in the world, He loc
[11:25] <art|sanFX> yep
[11:25] <SINN> its a kick as ship
[11:26] <WotGoril> Yeah, that's a tricky ship to dive
[11:26] <WotGoril> I think the guy sells dishes and stuff on Ebay of the Andrea Dorea
[11:26] <art|sanFX> brb
[11:26] <SINN> WotGoril thats cool.
[11:26] <SINN> your friend
[11:27] <WotGoril> yeah, he does all the ROV and sidescan work for Sea Hunters show too
[11:27] <WotGoril> http://www.shipwreckcentral.com
[11:27] <WotGoril> helped me a LOT on my Documentary
[11:28] <Tranq|Wrk> interesting stuff
[11:28] <WotGoril> Even got an Interview with Marty Klein that invented sidescan sonar
[11:29] <WotGoril> guy is amazingly smart
[11:29] <Anvile> SINN : what render
[11:29] <SINN> enzo render!!
[11:29] <Anvile> i'm not rendering
[11:30] <SINN> why not?
[11:30] <Anvile> because i'm doing other stuff
[11:30] <Anvile> :P
[11:30] <SINN> thats no excuse!
[11:41] <SINN> http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/housework/
[11:56] <LordCreep> wow um
[11:56] <LordCreep> You just took 1 min of my life with the link
[11:56] <LordCreep> I can never get that back
[11:59] <SINN> hey LordCreep
[11:59] <SINN> how are you?
[12:00] <LordCreep> Hot
[12:00] <LordCreep> I hate heat
[12:00] <SINN> where you live?
[12:00] <LordCreep> New York
[12:00] <SINN> its not hot there
[12:00] <SINN> right?
[12:00] <LordCreep> It is today
[12:00] <LordCreep> Especially in here
[12:01] <SINN> oh cool
[12:01] <LordCreep> No
[12:01] <LordCreep> hot
[12:01] <LordCreep> =P
[12:01] <SINN> thats what I meant
[12:01] <LordCreep> hehe
[12:01] <LordCreep> So what's up with you?
[12:01] <SINN> im not hot
[12:01] <SINN> rendering some picture
[12:02] <LordCreep> Have you seen the trailer for Monster House
[12:02] <SINN> hmm no
[12:02] <LordCreep> http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/monster_house/high.html
[12:02] <SINN> I have seen that silenthill trailer
[12:02] <LordCreep> Yeah can't wait to see Silent Hill
[12:14] <spajnal> Hello
[12:16] <spajnal> I'm making a face using edit. poly
[12:16] <spajnal> Is it "wrong" to weld vertexes so it becomes a triangle?
[12:18] <GRID_> if it looks good, no. if you want a "clean" mesh, yes.
[12:18] <spajnal> Ah, ok. Thanks.
[12:19] <vader_dk> spajnal try to keep quads and have nice egde loops - will make it easier f
[12:19] <spajnal> well, I really need to weld those vertexes :)
[12:20] <spajnal> It just gave one extra triangle though, so..
[12:22] <SINN> hmm
[12:37] * jrHe|pman is now known as jrHelpman
[12:57] * jrHe|pman is now known as jrHelpman
[13:10] * jrHe|pman is now known as jrHelpman
[13:15] * Pyroscrol is now known as John577
[13:26] <]K-RoNiK> hey any traditional artists here?
[13:32] <TranQui|> if by traditional you mean things like pastel, oil paint, watercolor, clay
[13:32] <TranQui|> myself
[13:33] <Slade> i've heard someone refer to photoshop on a wacom as traditional art :P
[13:34] <WotGoril> well, some people consider monekys painting with poo on canvas Art...but n
[13:34] <WotGoril> heh
[13:34] <WotGoril> Monkeys*
[13:40] <]K-RoNiK> i jus had a question
[13:40] <]K-RoNiK> about figure drawing
[13:41] * g|one is now known as g|s
[13:41] <]K-RoNiK> i have been really having a hard time with it shit outta porportion nd loo
[13:41] <]K-RoNiK> i know this aint a art forum but i knw their is a lot of talented artists
[13:41] <Slade> loomis
[13:41] <Slade> read his book
[13:41] <]K-RoNiK> which one
[13:41] <]K-RoNiK> he has many
[13:42] <Slade> figure drawing for all its worth?
[13:42] <]K-RoNiK> ahh iigh koo
[13:42] <]K-RoNiK> i heard bridgeman is also good
[13:42] <]K-RoNiK> so jus redrawing from the boook is automatically supposed to help?
[13:43] <Slade> dunno. i'm not an artist. everyone always recommends loomis and his book on f
[13:43] <Slade> read his comments and techniques?
[13:43] <WotGoril> You could always abduct women from bars and use them as reference
[13:43] <]K-RoNiK> loll
[13:44] <WotGoril> ;)
[13:44] <g|s> get some rohypnol
[13:44] <SINN> hey g|s!
[13:44] <g|s> but try to get the old versions, the newer have blue colored shit in em ;)
[13:44] <SINN> wanna see some shocking movie?
[13:44] <g|s> of course
[13:45] <g|s> i can show you an even more shocking movie in exchange if you want.
[13:45] <SINN> well I really didn't like this movie
[13:45] <SINN> :(
[13:45] <LordCreep> And
[13:45] <LordCreep> I can show you the most shocking movie ever
[13:45] <LordCreep> G|S knows too
[13:45] <LordCreep> =)
[13:45] <g|s> i guess we mean the same, creepo
[13:46] <LordCreep> hehe
[13:46] <LordCreep> Can't beat that selection
[13:46] <g|s> sad but true
[13:47] <Blaedmon> dudes, what is amigos site called again?
[13:48] <Blaedmon> ah 3dluvr, nm
[13:49] <SINN> g|s you can send it to me
[13:49] <SINN> that shocking movie :)
[13:49] <g|s> SINN: the one you sent is old and i had a better version of it ;)
[13:49] <LordCreep> It's shocking
[13:50] <LordCreep> Are you sure you want to see it?
[13:50] <g|s> SINN... the video creepo will link is really... i have no words for it
[13:51] <g|s> and i've worked for a mortician and in the slaughterhouse and have been a colle
[13:51] <LordCreep> I
[13:51] <LordCreep> I'll msg it
[13:51] <LordCreep> Won't put it in the channel
[13:51] <LordCreep> heh
[13:51] <g|s> i hope so :P
[13:51] <LordCreep> Sinn, msg
[13:51] <LordCreep> Watch at your own risk =P
[13:51] <vader_dk> whats that creepy movie
[13:51] <vader_dk> g|s naked ?
[13:52] * g|s watches out for spontaneous OMFG!s from SINN
[13:52] <LordCreep> I'd prefer that to this actually
[13:52] <LordCreep> heh
[13:52] <SINN> yeah
[13:52] <vader_dk> heh ok
[13:53] <SINN> why am I watching this?
[13:53] <madkarma> sounds like it's nice party killer
[13:53] <SINN> :S
[13:54] <SINN> omg
[13:54] <g|s> ...
[13:54] <SINN> I love kittens!!
[13:54] <SINN> hehe
[13:54] <g|s> good night, sleep well, SINN...
[13:55] <g|s> probably NOT
[13:55] <SINN> I remember that part from faces of dead
[13:55] <SINN> death
[13:55] <SINN> where they cut open living puppies
[13:55] <madkarma> hehehe yeah
[13:55] <g|s> the word is vivisection
[13:56] <SINN> well its not that creepy
[13:56] <SINN> I've seen worse things
[13:56] <SINN> IRL
[13:56] <SINN> I had some sick friends, and lots of ducks in the hood
[13:56] <LordCreep> Well we don't want to hear about you in the shower
[13:56] <Blaedmon> ok ok what the hell happens, the whole channels intrigued now
[13:57] <LordCreep> Ask for the link and I'll give it heh
[13:57] <madkarma> hey its a novelty.. intrigued and not about sex
[13:57] <Blaedmon> i dont think i want it, about to go to bed ;)
[13:57] <SINN> ah cmon
[13:58] <SINN> a real pervert doesn't get nightmares... pr0n would still overrule!
[13:58] <LordCreep> SINN
[13:58] <Blaedmon> have u seen the video 'executions'? fun and amusing to begin with, then..i
[13:58] <LordCreep> You know
[13:58] <LordCreep> That video is meant for porn
[13:58] <LordCreep> It's called a "crush fetish"
[13:58] <g|s> guys actually jack off to this, SINN
[13:58] <Blaedmon> jesus
[13:58] <SINN> really?
[13:58] <LordCreep> yup
[13:59] <SINN> no
[13:59] <SINN> thats sick
[13:59] <SINN> the girl isnt even that hot
[14:00] <g|s> its what she does that gets those guys off
[14:03] <LordCreep> And it obviously does
[14:03] <LordCreep> You can draw that conclusion by it's pure existance.
[14:03] <SINN> do you guys know anyone that gets turned on about this?
[14:03] <g|s> hell no
[14:03] <LordCreep> People wouldn't risk getting caught
[14:03] <LordCreep> Unless it had appeal
[14:04] <LordCreep> Wikipedia actually now mentions it
[14:04] <LordCreep> G|S, remember we saw the article thre
[14:04] <LordCreep> there*
[14:04] <LordCreep> It didn't mention this underground shit
[14:05] <g|s> wow
[14:05] <LordCreep> In early March 2006, a series of "crush" videos and images taken in Hangz
[14:06] <g|s> they found out where it was filmed
[14:06] <LordCreep> msg
[14:06] <SINN> thats something new
[14:06] <LordCreep> News article talking about it
[14:22] <SINN> ah nice, I put the URL in the topic ok?
[14:22] <SINN> hehe
[14:25] * Red_Blade is now known as Blaedmon
[14:26] <gkmotu> thats just stupid. I mean, people doing videos like that will soon have ques
[14:28] <gkmotu> give that chinees shemale an ak 47 and some camuflage cloths on and tell her
[14:35] <SINN> cmon gkmotu
[14:35] <SINN> dont be a pussy
[14:35] <SINN> hehe
[14:35] <gkmotu> im not, far from
[14:35] <gkmotu> :)
[14:35] <gkmotu> very far
[14:36] <SINN> yeah was just a joke dude ;)
[14:36] <gkmotu> i just dont like the idea
[14:36] <SINN> nor do I
[14:36] <gkmotu> k
[14:36] <SINN> I agree with your technique
[14:37] <gkmotu> show her videos in the chopper towards droppoint of civilian hostages scream
[14:37] <gkmotu> telling her ..thats where we sedn u
[14:37] <gkmotu> send
[14:37] <gkmotu> now smile and go
[14:37] <gkmotu> and she will be weak and cry..cus now shes not in control anymore...just lik
[14:37] <gkmotu> :)
[14:49] <GRID_> http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/Fastback/fastback51__.jpg
[14:50] <SINN> sweet halleluja
[14:54] <SINN> very nice GRID
[14:55] <gkmotu> the water is strange..very glassy. nice car indeed
[14:55] <SINN> hmm
[14:55] <SINN> I think the water is correct..
[14:56] <gkmotu> and there must be around 15 atms pressure in the fonr tire
[14:56] <SINN> dont forget about the angle its viewed
[14:56] <gkmotu> yeah i know
[14:56] <gkmotu> but still
[14:57] <gkmotu> maby :
[14:57] <GRID_> http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/fastback42__.jpg water isnt reflecting much
[14:59] <SINN> yeah, its cool
[15:00] <SINN> the ground texture is really good
[15:00] <SINN> I need to make such a texture
[15:00] <gkmotu> indeed. i think the displacement adds to the disillusion of water pits at so
[15:02] <gkmotu> around the right fron tire buttom..and 60-100 pixels to the left...those dis
[15:04] * ardworx is now known as ardfress
[15:07] * Pyroscrol is now known as John577
[15:14] <art|sanFX> GRID_ thats really cool
[15:14] <art|sanFX> looks like 3d
[15:14] <art|sanFX> is that ur car :)
[15:22] <GRID_> :)
[15:22] * darice_31 is now known as prentice_
[15:22] * g|s slaps prentice_ around a bit with a large trout
[15:23] <g|s> heh
[15:23] <g|s> how come i knew this.. ;)
[15:23] <GRID_> scary :O
[15:24] <Wiregridd> hello, is anyone familiar with fire?
[15:25] <SVVAD> yeah it burns :x
[15:25] <Wiregridd> :/
[15:26] <`Piccy> It burns.. burns.. burns... the ring of fire
[15:27] <Wiregridd> ookaay
[15:27] <Wiregridd> err, how about lights then? anyone decent with lights?
[15:29] <g|s> i can switch them on
[15:29] <Wiregridd> alright
[15:29] <g|s> what do you need?
[15:29] <`Piccy> your questions are very general wire
[15:29] <`Piccy> try throwing something a little more specific.
[15:30] <Wiregridd> okay, sure
[15:30] <Wiregridd> my fire question is: how do i make a decent jetstream?
[15:30] <g|s> volume spotlights :)
[15:31] <Wiregridd> and my light question is: what can i do for decent outdoor lighting?
[15:32] <g|s> combine a skylight/domelight with a directional light. the mix depends on the w
[15:32] <Wiregridd> should i put the directional light behind the camera?
[15:32] <Wiregridd> and the skylight above the scene?
[15:33] <g|s> try not to put lights behind the cam
[15:33] <g|s> and skylight usually comes from, well, the sky. so, above
[15:33] <g|s> the directional light is your direct sunlight
[15:33] <Wiregridd> so directional light shoudl be between the camera and scene?
[15:33] <Wiregridd> or next to the skylight?
[15:33] <g|s> where does the sun normally reside?
[15:34] <Wiregridd> i think the sun would normally be in the camera
[15:34] <Wiregridd> but i'm not sure that it woudl render like that
[15:34] <g|s> hm
[15:35] <Wiregridd> hmmm
[15:35] <g|s> so you usually go out of your house and have a several billion tons heavy, seve
[15:35] <g|s> nice
[15:35] <Wiregridd> not, not like that, i mean in the camera's viewport
[15:35] <Wiregridd> so if your outside, you can see the sun at the top of the viewport
[15:37] <Wiregridd> anyway, do you recommend putting the skylight and directional light toget
[15:39] <WotGoril> "Best Buy's 'Geek Squad' Accused of Pirating Software" http://www.foxne
[15:58] <ardfress> grid: wow nice car render! :) but the graffiti sucks :P
[16:14] <RogueLdr> barf
[16:15] <RogueLdr> xsi hates zbrush
[16:15] <Anvile> narf
[16:15] <RogueLdr> haha
[16:15] <RogueLdr> i cant get xsi to displace a zbrush map for shit
[16:24] <Ta|isman> I hate zbrush
[16:24] <Ta|isman> with a passion
[16:24] <Ta|isman> I can't wait for it to be ousted
[16:24] <Ta|isman> either by hexagon2, modo 201 or mudbox
[16:24] <gkmotu> sneak of a realtime production tool we do atm -> http://www.gkmotu.com/te
[16:25] <RogueLdr> i hate zbrush as well
[16:25] <RogueLdr> its telling me not enough memory to export an obj.. and i have 1 gig free
[16:26] <Ta|isman> it's just full of obscure error messages
[16:26] <Ta|isman> it's not a production tool
[16:26] <RogueLdr> the sculpting is nice though :)
[16:26] <Ta|isman> yeah
[16:26] <RogueLdr> and the texture painting
[16:26] <RogueLdr> the rest i coudl live without
[16:26] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:26] <Ta|isman> that#s the only part that it's reasonably painless
[16:27] <Ta|isman> the UI is retarded
[16:27] <RogueLdr> xsi is chapping my ass too
[16:27] <Ta|isman> the workflow is similarly morose
[16:27] <Ta|isman> I'm sticking to maya still
[16:27] <Ta|isman> at least I know what to expect there
[16:28] <RogueLdr> xsi is nice but mental ray is a headache
[16:28] <RogueLdr> shitty bump mapping
[16:28] <RogueLdr> slow as hell
[16:28] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:29] <RogueLdr> xsi's uv editor cant handle a lot of polygons in it
[16:29] <RogueLdr> in maya... its realtime
[16:29] <RogueLdr> i dont get that
[16:29] <RogueLdr> fuckign zbrush wont let me export my obj
[16:29] <RogueLdr> argh
[16:34] <gkmotu> decrease res, and add smooth modifyer in post app? add displacement map.
[16:34] <gkmotu> alternativly add a viewport direct x displacement realtime thingy
[16:35] <RogueLdr> well zbrush isnt giving me a displacement map tha tworks
[16:35] <RogueLdr> so i'm going to try to generate one in xsi
[16:39] <gkmotu> did u setup the GUVtiles? + flipping the stuff?
[16:40] <RogueLdr> i'm using guvtiles
[16:40] <RogueLdr> oops
[16:40] <RogueLdr> i mean i'm not using them
[16:41] <RogueLdr> using regular uvs
[16:43] <Ta|isman> why would you export a high res object RogueLdr?
[16:44] <RogueLdr> talis because zbrush's displacemen tmaps aint doing shit
[16:44] <Ta|isman> :|
[16:44] <RogueLdr> and i'm getting desperate
[16:44] <RogueLdr> haha
[16:44] <Ta|isman> did you follow the XSI guide?
[16:44] <RogueLdr> yeah
[16:44] <RogueLdr> its worthless
[16:44] <RogueLdr> doesnt work
[16:44] <Ta|isman> hmm..
[16:45] <Ta|isman> the maya one was fairly painless.. got it working quite well in MR and tu
[16:45] <RogueLdr> i can beleive it
[16:45] <RogueLdr> although i hate mental ray
[16:45] <RogueLdr> what kind of displacement map are you exporting from z?
[16:46] <RogueLdr> theres just no range in the displacement map zbrush exports
[16:46] <RogueLdr> thats what appears to be the problem
[16:46] <RogueLdr> i can barely see any values
[16:47] <RogueLdr> do you export as an 8bit map?
[16:48] <RogueLdr> 16bit?
[16:49] <Piccy`> http://24.150.57.108/3d/flow.mov
[16:53] <Ta|isman> you need to install multi displacement 2
[16:53] <Bibendum> All liquid should come in easy-to-consume cylinder shapes
[16:53] <Ta|isman> plugin for zbrush which takes all the guessing out
[16:53] <Bibendum> looks good tho
[16:53] <Ta|isman> you do no want to export as an 8bit map... that gives you only 256 steps
[16:54] <Piccy`> Bib - I'm hoping to start a revolution.
[16:54] <Ta|isman> 16 is preferable, and if your renderer supports it use 32bpc
[16:54] <Piccy`> When dormat, all liquid needs to be cylindrical.
[16:54] <Bibendum> agreed
[16:54] <Bibendum> jello-like
[16:55] <RogueLdr> what res do you export at ?
[16:57] <Bibendum> If hes exporting to 32b, probably no less than 16k x 16k
[16:58] <RogueLdr> 16k? thats madness
[16:58] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:59] <RogueLdr> 16000x16000 ?!@
[16:59] <RogueLdr> hehe
[17:00] <ardfress> thats my resolution for testrenders^^
[17:00] <Bibendum> the ultimate in efficiency
[17:02] <RogueLdr> wheres multi mapper 2?
[17:03] <RogueLdr> does it come with the displacement exporter?
[17:04] <RogueLdr> i have that installed.. but i dont see multi mapper 2 anyhwere for downloa
[17:06] <SINN> hey Ta|isman
[17:06] <SINN> how did that head ended up?
[17:07] <Ta|isman> heh not done much to it really
[17:08] <Ta|isman> ..got lashes and brows on there and that's it ;)
[17:08] <SINN> ah ok.
[17:09] <SINN> I think I saw that version already
[17:09] <Ta|isman> prolly yeah
[17:11] <SINN> hmm I wonder, if you have headlights with a "lens" in it and there at the end
[17:12] <SINN> I thought 5 would be enough
[17:12] <SINN> but im wrong
[17:15] <SINN> ah double glass ofcourse holds 2 refractions at least
[17:15] * SINN pats forehead
[17:21] <Solsh> hey
[17:21] <Solsh> what language can this be? http://www.3delavnica.com/
[17:21] <SINN> swedish?
[17:21] <SINN> danish polish
[17:22] <SINN> I dunno
[17:22] <Shigaway> definitely not scandinavian
[17:23] <Shigaway> judging by the characters, I'm guessing Hungarian or some other Balkan lan
[17:23] <Shigaway> Polish is also very likely
[17:23] <Solsh> k
[17:24] <Shigaway> ah never mind
[17:24] <Shigaway> the title says it all doesn't it
[17:25] <Shigaway> 3delavnica - Slovenska digitalna kultura
[17:25] <Shigaway> Slovenia
[17:25] <Solsh> lol
[17:25] <Solsh> thnx
[17:25] <SINN> ah yeah
[17:25] <Shigaway> gnite
[17:26] <SINN> gnite
[18:11] <RogueLdr> XS DIE
[18:12] <RogueLdr> shithomage XS DIE
[18:12] <ardfress> lol
[18:12] <RogueLdr> its called mental ray, because ray charles a blind man could paint a prett
[18:12] <ardfress> u just do something wrong, program is great :P
[18:13] <RogueLdr> it is great
[18:13] <RogueLdr> but it has its issues
[18:13] <ardfress> sure
[18:14] <RogueLdr> nothing like trying to figure out why displacements arent working
[18:14] <RogueLdr> waiting hours and hours for a render that has no result
[18:14] <RogueLdr> its brain braking
[18:14] <ardfress> :|
[18:14] <RogueLdr> i have no idae why i cant displace this mesh
[18:14] <RogueLdr> no matter what picture i put on it
[18:14] <RogueLdr> it wont displace
[18:15] <RogueLdr> it will take forever to render... it will generate the displaced polys
[18:15] <RogueLdr> but.. it wont displace
[18:15] <RogueLdr> yet i can create a sphere and make it displace quite nicely
[18:15] <RogueLdr> hehe
[18:36] <RogueLdr> wow i actually got a result of some shitty kind
[18:38] <RogueLdr> shithomage xsi did something
[18:38] <RogueLdr> wow
[18:38] <RogueLdr> weeeeeeeeee
[18:38] <RogueLdr> ok the zbrush tutorials are way off
[18:38] <RogueLdr> haha
[18:38] <ardfress> !!
[18:39] <RogueLdr> looks like i'm writing a new tutorial
[18:39] <voldern> Hi, is it possible to make more than 100frames for animation? :)
[18:40] <RogueLdr> no
[18:40] <RogueLdr> worst dam thing about 3d
[18:40] <RogueLdr> everything has to be done in 100 frames
[18:40] <RogueLdr> or less
[18:41] <ardfress> u could use xsi and have maybe 200 frames because of its new modern core ^
[18:41] <RogueLdr> yeah the gigapoly core can do about 167 frames
[18:41] <voldern> Hehe, well it was worth the try. Il just have to edit some things then. Wel
[18:41] <ardfress> lol
[18:41] <RogueLdr> hahaha
[18:41] <RogueLdr> why did he run away?~1
[18:42] <RogueLdr> i was just about to tell him
[18:42] <RogueLdr> sight
[18:42] <ardfress> tzes
[18:42] <RogueLdr> sigh too
[18:50] <funkybizz> !help
[18:56] <hitch11> hi
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[19:58] <voldern> Hi, how do i create a camera in 3dsmax?
[20:00] <voldern> Doh
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[21:01] <RogueLdr> anyone here render with mental ray? what do you set your samples at for fi
[21:01] <RogueLdr> juz curious :)
[21:45] <trev-> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2299197544122308801&q=quake+3&pl=tru
[22:06] <Method404> that's just stupid
[22:06] <Method404> get a gigantic DLP projector or something
[22:07] <Method404> all those stupid line breaks in the monitors ... distracting
[22:12] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/ogre24.jpg
[22:12] <RogueLdr> yay i got the displacement to render
[22:13] <Method404> you should put him in a dress
[22:13] <Method404> or a ballerina outfit
[22:13] <Method404> with a tutu
[22:14] <RogueLdr> it could work
[22:14] <RogueLdr> now if i could get xsi's sss to look good
[22:14] <Method404> Deathcab for Cutie rules
[22:15] <Method404> this video I'm watching of theirs is pretty cool
[22:19] <Slade> trev-: just think. if that had been doom on 24 monitors, that'd be a monitor
[22:20] <Method404> doom is the best game ever created
[22:20] <Slade> i played it like crazy
[22:20] <Slade> along with mods
[22:20] <Method404> aside from Monkey Island
[22:20] <Method404> I made a ton of levels
[22:20] <Slade> monkey island is good in its own way :)
[22:25] <Method404> http://www.la.com/events/specialevent/marvelsuperheroesscienceexhibition/
[23:14] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/ogre25.jpg
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