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Session Start: Tue Apr 11 00:00:00 2006
Session Ident: #3dsmax
[00:20] <WotGoril> Ahhh I love telling pain in the ass customers I can't do their low paying
[00:21] <WotGoril> "sorry I can't do work for you anymore, your negative energy drains my inn
[00:23] <BiowaX> hehe, i want to able to do the same
[00:25] <WotGoril> load off my mind
[00:25] <Dr_Rambo> tell them the greatest 2 word english have ever invented
[00:26] <WotGoril> need to set myself up so I don't have any client work this summer
[00:27] <WotGoril> well, not the local ones
[00:31] <WotGoril> Don't have to worry about money now, so that's a big plus
[00:34] <WotGoril> heh, that's the key, make shit that keeps making money
[00:34] <WotGoril> instead of doing shit that makes money once
[00:42] * |-Apoc-| is now known as [-Apoc-]
[00:46] <artisanWe> m33p m33p
[00:47] <artisanWe> finalRender Stage-1 SP3 http://www.dreammotion.com/cg/viewtopic.php?t=232
[01:26] <SINN> hello!
[01:37] * jrHe|pma1 is now known as jrHelpman
[01:41] <FrDrebin> Good morning.
[02:00] <smike> hey, ive got a cv curve and a circle, im trying to make a pipe using a 1 rail
[02:06] * RNDM is now known as Bibendum
[03:21] <Aqua|Work> WotGoril: It feels good to hear you say that
[03:24] <Aqua|Work> Any AE users in here?
[03:42] <FrDrebin> What is AE ?
[03:43] <g|s> American English
[03:43] <FrDrebin> Oops, I don't believe, I'm french and I speak here with my poor school eng
[03:44] <g|s> http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=AE&String=exact&p=ol
[03:45] <FrDrebin> hmm thank you. I believed it was an Adobe E... software
[03:46] <g|s> Adobe After Effects ;)
[03:46] <Bibendum> no booleans!
[03:56] <Aqua|Work> lol
[03:56] <Aqua|Work> Can someone tell me how to composite a single frame
[03:56] <Aqua|Work> with AE
[03:56] <Aqua|Work> Pass compositing that is
[03:57] <Aqua|Work> i've never used AE before :)
[03:57] <Aqua|Work> 30 minutes to day job and have to get this out to a render farm, just wan
[04:57] <TranQui|> anyone know a decent wacom supplier in the toronto,ontario,canada area?
[05:18] <TranQui|> neat i found a free animated caustic texture generator
[05:18] <TranQui|> that'll work nice to fake some caustic underwater scene stuffs
[05:18] <TranQui|> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~kand/caustics/ for anyone thats interested
[05:30] <gkmotu> fake is cheating!
[05:31] <TranQui|> hehe
[05:31] <TranQui|> i love 2 cheat
[05:31] <TranQui|> specially when it comes to long underwater animations
[05:33] <gkmotu> :/
[05:34] * mayan is now known as krazypete
[05:47] <trev-> thanks tranqui:)
[05:53] <trev-> hey gkmotu, where has your reflection/glossy material tutorial gone?
[06:07] <Dr_Rambo> Which cheese would u prefer?.... Cheddar or Feta?
[06:07] <gkmotu> which one trev- ?
[06:07] <gkmotu> im uploading video tuts + scenes to gkmotu.com later today
[06:08] <trev-> it was a screen recording in .swf - you turbosmoothed some blobs and applied
[06:08] <gkmotu> ahh yes
[06:08] <trev-> cool i'll check it out later then :)
[06:09] <gkmotu> yes itss changed now, same technincs other model but same output
[06:09] <trev-> ace :D
[06:10] <Dr_Rambo> http://cupped-expressions.net/cheese/quiz/
[06:12] <vader_wrk> trev- what tutorial was that you are talking about ?
[06:12] <gkmotu> 1 i made
[06:12] <vader_wrk> ok something cool :)
[06:13] <gkmotu> just need to build the flash contence and the popups for the videos...then t
[06:14] <vader_wrk> link pls
[06:14] <gkmotu> www.gkmotu.com check in about 23:00
[06:22] <decap> -Zenia19- DCC send porno.pif.rar (81.172.76.179)
[06:23] <vivapolsk> [6:20pm] DCC Get of SEX-mirc-Access.rar from Zenia19 incomplete (00:00:24
[06:23] <decap> not of much use since its a trojan, a kick would be enough
[06:25] <vivapolsk> yeah whatever
[06:29] * MeyitzoNA is now known as Meyitzo
[06:37] * g|s is now known as g|wrk
[06:59] <wxque> anyone know howto import .3ds file in visual c++?
[06:59] <NiteLite> get yourself some code
[06:59] <NiteLite> there are snippets here and there
[06:59] <NiteLite> google it
[07:07] * ardwoerks is now known as ardfress
[08:00] <[Tyrant]> anyone up on monitors?
[08:00] <[Tyrant]> im thinkin of getting a widescreen dell
[08:00] <[Tyrant]> 20 or 30inch
[08:01] <Dr_Rambo> erm
[08:01] <Dr_Rambo> I just bought 2 screens
[08:01] <Dr_Rambo> LCD
[08:02] <Dr_Rambo> one square one (LG) 19inch and one Benq 20.1 inch Widescreen
[08:02] <Dr_Rambo> Dell is not bad if you got money to burn
[08:02] <Dr_Rambo> and it's a bit slower monitor too
[08:02] <Dr_Rambo> 15-12ms I think
[08:03] <[Tyrant]> hmm
[08:03] <[Tyrant]> when i bought a lcd last year
[08:03] <[Tyrant]> 18 was fast
[08:03] <[Tyrant]> heh
[08:04] <[Tyrant]> 20 was normal
[08:04] <[Tyrant]> 15 was crazy
[08:04] <[Tyrant]> i ended up getting a "gaming" lcd
[08:04] <[Tyrant]> from hercules
[08:04] <[Tyrant]> :)
[08:04] <[Tyrant]> 550 17"
[08:07] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[08:07] <Dr_Rambo> nowadays
[08:07] <Dr_Rambo> 8 is normal
[08:07] <Dr_Rambo> 8ms
[08:07] <Dr_Rambo> 12 is slow
[08:08] <Dr_Rambo> anything below 12 is too slow :p
[08:08] <Dr_Rambo> 6 is fast
[08:08] <Dr_Rambo> but those fast panels.. are usually 6 bit panels
[08:08] <Dr_Rambo> 6 bit = 225,000 colors
[08:08] <Dr_Rambo> while 8 bit = 16.8 million colors (simultaenous display)
[08:09] <Dr_Rambo> so there is a bit of tradeoff
[08:09] <Dr_Rambo> you want good vibrant color, 8 bit panel will be slower
[08:09] <Dr_Rambo> while faster response LCD is usually with lower color
[08:10] <Anvile> saw some ads for 2ms screens
[08:10] <Dr_Rambo> but my Benq is a hybrid, something to do with new tech
[08:10] <Dr_Rambo> 20.1 inch Wide screen Benq
[08:10] <Dr_Rambo> 8 MS and it's 8 bit panel
[08:10] <Dr_Rambo> best of both world
[08:10] <Dr_Rambo> and it's sorta on sell right now
[08:10] <Dr_Rambo> pretty damnj cheap, about $499 USD
[08:12] <Dr_Rambo> http://reviews.cnet.com/BenQ_FP202W_flat_panel_display_TFT_20_1/4505-3174_
[08:12] <[Tyrant]> or i could get http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YNSR/102-1772278-005
[08:12] <[Tyrant]> hah
[08:12] <[Tyrant]> 95lb's doesnt sound fun tho
[08:12] <[Tyrant]> i move around a bit
[08:12] <Dr_Rambo> it looks heavy
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> but it's lighter than you think
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> wow
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> Newegg.com
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> $399.99 | In stock: Yes
[08:13] <[Tyrant]> yea
[08:13] <[Tyrant]> there already
[08:13] <[Tyrant]> hah
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> that's cheap
[08:13] <[Tyrant]> 2 of them? ;p
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> nah
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> don't get Sony trinitron CRT
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> they are outta style
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[08:13] <[Tyrant]> turn them tall, and next to each other
[08:13] <Dr_Rambo> I sold mine just last week
[08:14] <Dr_Rambo> CRT is too heavy
[08:14] <[Tyrant]> def
[08:14] <Dr_Rambo> builky and takes up so much deskspace
[08:14] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[08:14] <[Tyrant]> heh
[08:14] <vader_wrk> 17:13] <Dr_Rambo> CRT is too heavy <-- do you move them often ?
[08:14] <Dr_Rambo> if you really want to
[08:14] <[Tyrant]> so 2 benq's tall side by size
[08:14] <Dr_Rambo> I sold one last week
[08:14] <Dr_Rambo> remember?
[08:14] <trev-> i <3 crt
[08:14] <[Tyrant]> crt is always gunn abe better
[08:15] <[Tyrant]> but its a tradeoff
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> well
[08:15] <[Tyrant]> i was gunna wait for SES
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> if you want CRT
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> go buy 2nd hand
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> in trade papers
[08:15] <[Tyrant]> yea
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> ppl are dumping CRT like mad
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> I sold my SONY 17 inch for $30 bucks
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> ;p
[08:15] <[Tyrant]> hah
[08:15] <Dr_Rambo> everyone is selling it below 50 bucks
[08:15] <vader_wrk> [Tyrant] i've got a 24" dell
[08:15] <vader_wrk> and i like it
[08:16] <vader_wrk> but the lacie got a 23" with 10bit color chip
[08:16] <vader_wrk> cost a bit more
[08:16] <Dr_Rambo> wow
[08:16] <Dr_Rambo> 10 bit?
[08:16] <vader_wrk> ye
[08:16] <[Tyrant]> ooOoo
[08:16] <Dr_Rambo> how much color can it display?
[08:16] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[08:16] <Dr_Rambo> 24 MILLION?
[08:16] <[Tyrant]> is that true tho?
[08:16] <vader_wrk> op-of-the-line TFT panel, and embedding 10-bit gamma correction
[08:17] <vader_wrk> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10503
[08:17] <Dr_Rambo> oh
[08:17] <vader_wrk> but slow respons
[08:17] <Dr_Rambo> 20 inch isn't too bad
[08:17] <[Tyrant]> huh
[08:18] <[Tyrant]> thats expensive
[08:18] <vader_wrk> hmm pretty sure they had a 23" once
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> 23' is definitely large
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[08:18] <[Tyrant]> id rather buy 2 of something else :)
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> I am salivating for a 30 inch
[08:18] <[Tyrant]> yea
[08:18] <Dr_Rambo> with a pair of 7900 GTX SLI
[08:18] <vader_wrk> well say i said i've got a 24" dell
[08:18] <[Tyrant]> yea whats the deal with needing to video out's
[08:18] <vader_wrk> and love it
[08:18] <vader_wrk> and they are running cheap for the moment
[08:18] <[Tyrant]> 2
[08:19] <Dr_Rambo> vader, but dell's monitor
[08:19] <Dr_Rambo> is slow isn't it?
[08:19] <vader_wrk> otherwise a 24" samsung - but thats teh same as dell :)
[08:19] <[Tyrant]> http://www.slickdeals.net/#p7343
[08:19] <vader_wrk> nope
[08:19] <[Tyrant]> cheap dell's
[08:19] <Dr_Rambo> 15-12 ms repsonse for dell right?
[08:19] <vader_wrk> not slower then other tft i have looked at
[08:19] <vader_wrk> ye
[08:19] <Dr_Rambo> how fast is yours
[08:19] <vader_wrk> 12ms i think
[08:19] <Dr_Rambo> oh
[08:19] <vader_wrk> not 100% sure though
[08:19] <Dr_Rambo> not bad
[08:20] <vader_wrk> but i can see hmm not ghosting kinda like vsyn trouble on any tft when pl
[08:20] <[Tyrant]> UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1" widescreen LCD monitor for $529 - auto 20% off -
[08:21] <vader_wrk> ye 2 of those
[08:21] <vader_wrk> best buy
[08:21] <vader_wrk> unless you do lots of video ed. then you gonna like a 24"
[08:21] <vader_wrk> in my mind
[08:21] <vader_wrk> or animation
[08:22] <vader_wrk> a good long time bar :)
[08:24] <[Tyrant]> video editing(avid), graphic design(PS and Illustrator), web developing, g
[08:24] <StrkEagle> most dvds a good fit on the dell 24" ?
[08:24] <pangloss> Anyone ever mirrored rotations in max? I am having a hard time.
[08:25] <pangloss> I might have to extract the Z from the quat then negate it and square it,
[08:25] <vader_wrk> StrkEagle yea guss, but 24" is a bit small for dvd looking :)
[08:26] <StrkEagle> 30" worth the extra then ?
[08:26] <vader_wrk> dont think so
[08:26] <vader_wrk> but havet tryed to work on one
[08:26] <vader_wrk> just think your head have to be to far away to see anything
[08:26] <Dr_Rambo> 30" doesn't sound that expensive now even
[08:26] <Dr_Rambo> only $3000 USD
[08:26] <vader_wrk> nope
[08:26] <Dr_Rambo> $2900 or something
[08:27] <Dr_Rambo> 4 years ago, getting a 20" CRT is about $3000
[08:27] <vader_wrk> time to go home - later guys
[08:28] <pangloss> peace
[08:28] <pangloss> Anyone deal with max rotations?
[08:30] <Dr_Rambo> erm
[08:30] <Dr_Rambo> max script?
[08:30] <Dr_Rambo> sorry dunno
[08:30] <Dr_Rambo> someone here bound to know.. LOL
[08:30] <Dr_Rambo> but not me
[08:39] <WotGoril> aloha
[08:39] <Tranq|Wrk> aloha
[08:40] <WotGoril> hiya tranq
[08:41] <Tranq|Wrk> i need sleep
[08:41] <Tranq|Wrk> this camera tracking/matching takes soooooooooo long
[08:42] <Tranq|Wrk> and so far its buggin out at 60% when my zoom starts and my manually plac
[08:42] <Tranq|Wrk> hehe frustration comin out there sorry ahah
[08:42] <WotGoril> anything fun and exciting happening?
[08:42] <Tranq|Wrk> im giving myself a brain bleed w. this stuff, other then that, nadda!
[08:43] <WotGoril> heh
[08:43] <Tranq|Wrk> not even any random newbs askin questions to amuse me while i wait this o
[08:44] <WotGoril> just waiting for the mail, supposed to have some 400 year old drawings com
[08:45] <WotGoril> copies I should say
[08:45] <Tranq|Wrk> nice
[08:47] <WotGoril> hopefully should help for the framing of this ship
[08:49] <[Tyrant]> http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2632
[08:49] <[Tyrant]> benq revuew
[08:49] <[Tyrant]> review
[08:58] <WotGoril> man, I don't feel like working today
[09:01] * g|wrk is now known as g|wrkwrk
[09:02] <[Tyrant]> http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824112176&CMP=OTC-Fro
[09:02] <[Tyrant]> Display Colours 16.7 Million
[09:02] <[Tyrant]> Brightness 300 cd/m2
[09:02] <[Tyrant]> Contrast Ratio 800:1
[09:02] <[Tyrant]> Response Time 8ms
[09:03] <Dr_Rambo> seems good too
[09:03] <[Tyrant]> yea
[09:03] <Dr_Rambo> but I never heard of Spectre
[09:04] <[Tyrant]> cheaper too
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> I have use Benq before
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> and they are quite reliable and good screens
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> so I stuck with Benq
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> about that review Tyrant
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> Cons:
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> - noise in the powersupply
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> - button positioning
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> I don't hear ANY NOISE at all
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> I don't know why that reviewer heard these noise
[09:04] <Dr_Rambo> LCD monitor DOES NOT make noise
[09:05] <Dr_Rambo> as with - button positioning ..
[09:06] <Dr_Rambo> I have no problem with it
[09:06] <Dr_Rambo> once I had the screen setup, I do not even have to touch it again.
[09:07] <Tranq|Wrk> ne1 know much about the cintiq 21UX lcd tablet ?
[09:07] <Tranq|Wrk> Im lookin to place an order (today or very soon ) but the shop i had got
[09:09] <NiteLite> Dr_Rambo: I think he complained about the power supply making noise
[09:09] <NiteLite> not the actual screen
[09:09] <NiteLite> sometimes they can make like buzzing sounds etc.
[09:12] <[Tyrant]> Dr_Rambo what about the viewing angle
[09:13] <[Tyrant]> what i noticed first about this lcd that im using now when i got it, was i
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> tyrant it's quite good
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> well yeh
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> you get a bit of it
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> yes
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> I notice that too
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> with this 19 inch LG
[09:13] <[Tyrant]> which sux when ur designing websites.. cause the top of the screen has dif
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> but on that Benq one it's not noticeable
[09:13] <Dr_Rambo> it doesn't change color
[09:13] <[Tyrant]> do you work for benq?
[09:13] <[Tyrant]> ;p
[09:14] <Dr_Rambo> it simply means LCD change of luminosity
[09:14] <Dr_Rambo> no, not really
[09:14] <Dr_Rambo> that 20 inch is for game :D
[09:14] <Dr_Rambo> 19 inch is for work
[09:15] <Dr_Rambo> well, just read the reviews in that widescreen forums
[09:15] <Dr_Rambo> and you will see what I mean
[09:15] <Dr_Rambo> I agree with most they say
[09:15] <Dr_Rambo> no noise for me, button are fine once you set up (you just press one butto
[09:15] <WotGoril> I like free monitors
[09:15] <Dr_Rambo> no dead pixel for me
[09:15] <WotGoril> heh
[09:16] <Dr_Rambo> and it's bright, and colorful :D
[09:16] <davzie> Any VRay users here?
[09:16] <Dr_Rambo> one thing I have to mention too Tyrant, is that, Benq LCD monitor are grea
[09:16] <Dr_Rambo> other LCD may not scale as well
[09:16] <Dr_Rambo> when displaying in none native resolution
[09:16] <Dr_Rambo> but this one works terrific
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> like say if you are playing games
[09:17] <[Tyrant]> cool
[09:17] <davzie> http://www.davzie.com/wtf.jpg Could somebody explain what the hell is happe
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> Tranq|Wrk >> yes I have use one
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> Tranq|Wrk >> I have tested it at a tradeshow
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> does that count?
[09:17] <Tranq|Wrk> what did you think
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> it's a xmas present type thing
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> like a Porsche
[09:17] <Dr_Rambo> hehe
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> it's perfet
[09:18] <Tranq|Wrk> haha
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> I would wish to get one
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> but I don't have the bucks
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> to get one
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> $5000?
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> or something expensive like that
[09:18] <Tranq|Wrk> $2399 is the price i was quoted
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> to get one
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> it's everything I wanted
[09:18] <Dr_Rambo> I got a Wacom 4x6 Intuos 3
[09:18] <Tranq|Wrk> but im learning now that an 8 to 10 week shipping period is what im looki
[09:19] <Tranq|Wrk> so now im just re-thinking things
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> it's great tablet
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> realy good
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> screen looks good
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> and it's got a stylish glass surface
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> works great... good response
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> I did some drawing / painting on it
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> i can't find any fault besides one
[09:19] <Dr_Rambo> that when u do drawing on it, what you point is NOT what you see
[09:20] <Dr_Rambo> because of viewing angle
[09:20] <Tranq|Wrk> lol
[09:20] <Dr_Rambo> what you point is not what you see.... because of viewing angle.
[09:20] <Tranq|Wrk> so waht you mean is where the stylus is painted on the tablet, the actual
[09:20] <Dr_Rambo> it's not the fault of the tablet .... but who works ALWAYS PERPENDICULAR t
[09:20] <Dr_Rambo> yes
[09:21] <Dr_Rambo> it's slightly below
[09:21] <Tranq|Wrk> ah
[09:21] <Dr_Rambo> remember there is a 1 inch glass
[09:21] <Dr_Rambo> okay maybe not 1 inch
[09:21] <Tranq|Wrk> yea well you can compensate for that after getting used to it
[09:21] <Dr_Rambo> but there IS A THICKNESS
[09:21] <Tranq|Wrk> understandable
[09:21] <Tranq|Wrk> still gotta be way nicer painting directly on screen then on a tablet
[09:21] <Dr_Rambo> yep
[09:21] <Dr_Rambo> heaps nice
[09:22] <Dr_Rambo> it's like dream come true :D
[09:22] <Tranq|Wrk> im a mouse and keyboard user , so even a tablet would be an upgrade
[09:22] <Tranq|Wrk> but ive got the money for the lcd tablet so i want to get it while i do h
[09:22] <Dr_Rambo> I also jsut wish wacom would make them thinner
[09:22] <Dr_Rambo> that Cintaq is still slightly too thick
[09:22] <Dr_Rambo> to my taste
[09:23] <Dr_Rambo> I wish it's InTuos 3 thic :D (whihc is 0.3 inch..)
[09:23] <Dr_Rambo> cintaq also because it's got a LCD inside the backside of it is got vents
[09:23] <Dr_Rambo> so you can't be rough with it
[09:23] <Dr_Rambo> if you are working and also have some liquid in vicinity....
[09:24] <Dr_Rambo> liquid spill into it you might kill the panel
[09:26] <Dr_Rambo> but yeh, it's definitely worth it
[09:26] <Dr_Rambo> what u going to use it for Tranq
[09:26] <Dr_Rambo> ?
[09:29] <[Tyrant]> does benq make a 24"?
[09:34] <Dr_Rambo> dunno
[09:34] <Dr_Rambo> dont think so
[09:35] <Dr_Rambo> closest is 23"
[09:35] <Dr_Rambo> http://www.benq.com/products/product.cfm?product=435
[09:37] <g|wrkwrk> oh, a new spam method
[09:38] <Tranq|Wrk> boo
[09:45] <LordCreep> Dr
[09:45] * g|wrkwrk slaps LordCreep around a bit with a large trout
[09:45] <LordCreep> Better to look at Samsung or Dell
[09:46] * LordCreep shoves a asterisk up g|s's ass
[09:46] <g|wrkwrk> yeah!
[09:46] <g|wrkwrk> you know i like that
[09:46] <LordCreep> I know you do you kinky bastard
[09:47] <LordCreep> I'll save the percentage sign for later though
[09:47] <g|wrkwrk> ahhhh
[09:48] <LordCreep> You know
[09:48] <LordCreep> I didn't know that XP didn't support 4gb of ram
[09:49] * Dr_Rambo prays to santa that he wants a 20" Cintiq LCD Tablet, a Dell 30" monitor, and a
[09:49] <LordCreep> Testing a 4gb kit they could only get xp to address 3gb
[09:50] <Dr_Rambo> did i say 20" cintiq.. oh I mean 21"
[09:50] <Tranq|Wrk> hehe
[09:57] <[Tyrant]> http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_20wgx2.htm
[09:57] <[Tyrant]> that monitor looks sick
[09:57] <[Tyrant]> :P~~
[09:57] <[Tyrant]> Dr_Rambo how much will i enjoy a 20" over a 17" i got now
[09:58] <[Tyrant]> i notice myself goin really close to the screen sometimes as it is.. i don
[09:58] <LordCreep> I hate the stand
[09:58] <LordCreep> Those stands are common though
[09:58] <[Tyrant]> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824014105
[09:58] <[Tyrant]> benq stand is ugly too
[09:58] <LordCreep> Viewsonic has one of my fav stands
[09:59] <LordCreep> It's not super pretty but it's adjustable in every manor
[09:59] <Dr_Rambo> it's nto bad tyrant
[09:59] <Dr_Rambo> it's stylish
[09:59] <Dr_Rambo> I like benq's style
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> NEC one is slow
[10:00] <LordCreep> I prefer adjustable
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> 16 ms
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> don't get it
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> 16ms you will see ghosting
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> bad
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> on games, movies
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> LOL
[10:00] <LordCreep> Ehh
[10:00] <LordCreep> It's wide screen
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> 8 is just acceptable in my opinion
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> on 8 ms panel you *sometimes* see ghosting in extreme motions
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> but on 16ms
[10:00] <Dr_Rambo> you see it more often
[10:01] <Dr_Rambo> it's annoying
[10:01] <Dr_Rambo> about 20" over 17 inch.. if you mean 17 inch square screen
[10:01] <Dr_Rambo> I would say
[10:02] <Dr_Rambo> 20" wide screen, vs 17 square.... 20" wide vertical is IDENTICAL HEIGHT to
[10:02] <Dr_Rambo> the only difference is it's wel...WIDER
[10:02] <Dr_Rambo> about 10 CM wider I think
[10:02] <Dr_Rambo> 10-15cm wider
[10:03] <Dr_Rambo> 20" widescreen is actually vertically smaller than 19" square screen
[10:03] <Dr_Rambo> 20" is 5CM wider than 19" square screen
[10:04] <]Tyrant[> 20" widescreen vs 17" square
[10:06] <]Tyrant[> what should i sell my screen for
[10:07] <]Tyrant[> 2.3 years old
[10:09] <]Tyrant[> Prophetview 920 Pro DVI LCD Display
[10:09] <]Tyrant[> got it for 550
[10:12] <Dr_Rambo> $50
[10:12] <Dr_Rambo> :p
[10:13] <Dr_Rambo> I sold my SONY E230 for $40
[10:13] <Dr_Rambo> it's 17", and I got it 3 years ago for about $450
[10:16] <]Tyrant[> hah
[10:16] <]Tyrant[> how is widescreen meassured
[10:16] <]Tyrant[> 20" wide?
[10:21] <Dr_Rambo> hmm
[10:21] <Dr_Rambo> 20" diagonally
[10:21] <Dr_Rambo> 20.1
[10:22] <Dr_Rambo> but, if u measure from side, it's as high as 17", but much wider
[10:22] <WotGoril> 17" free
[10:22] <WotGoril> ;)
[11:12] * Apu_isgay is now known as Ruairi
[11:13] <Ruairi> hey kids
[11:34] <notfakie> hi dad
[11:35] <notfakie> :)
[12:02] <utitan4> Hey Ruairi
[12:04] <g|wrkwrk> u tit an!
[12:10] <Ruairi> hey utitan
[12:10] <Ruairi> +v?
[12:10] <Ruairi> how the hell come I can't op myself any more?
[12:10] <Ruairi> blah!
[12:13] <AceOvArts> ip change ?
[12:16] <Ruairi> blah!
[12:16] <Ruairi> just got broadband at home
[12:17] <Ruairi> is meegs around these days?
[12:19] <AceOvArts> aint seen him for ages...leave a msg
[12:19] <AceOvArts> there is a command to change the ip recogniton.....fuck if I know it thou
[12:20] <Ruairi> heh
[12:38] * utitan4 is now known as UTitan
[13:21] <soid___> im looking for a porsche cayman blueprint anyone knows where to get?
[13:27] <Anvile> soid___ : www.onnovanbraam.com
[13:28] <FrDrebin> Great great work Anvile
[13:28] <FrDrebin> Your 993 picture make me think about Grid's work
[13:28] <FrDrebin> and its Golf
[13:29] <Anvile> my ... 993 picture?
[13:29] <notfakie> lol
[13:29] * Anvile blinks
[13:29] <FrDrebin> Yes here http://www.onnovanbraam.com/portfolio/porsche993gt2/
[13:29] <notfakie> anvile i really appreciate you hosting all those car blueprints
[13:29] <Anvile> haha
[13:29] <notfakie> i mean
[13:29] <Anvile> shut up notfakie :P
[13:29] <notfakie> mr. vanbraam :)
[13:30] <Anvile> riiiiight
[13:30] <Anvile> lovely how max crashes when you apply a 6000x4000 bitmap on an object, and t
[13:31] <vader_dk> could it be a gfx error :)'
[13:31] <Anvile> gfx error?
[13:31] <FrDrebin> Sure... on a P133
[13:32] <Anvile> no its renderng fine
[13:32] <Anvile> rendering*
[13:32] <vader_dk> ye
[13:32] <vader_dk> so - a graphic card / driver issue
[13:32] <vader_dk> and not really max's problem ;)
[13:33] <Anvile> no, its any hi-res image
[13:33] <Anvile> i can apply it, but when i want to show it in viewport, it dies
[13:33] <vader_dk> ye - but so can easy render it
[13:33] <vader_dk> you*
[13:34] <vader_dk> try - to cut down the image texture size in max's preferences
[13:34] <Anvile> from.. 1024 to 128?
[13:34] <vader_dk> ye
[13:35] <vader_dk> or dont have the macth bitmap size tjeck on
[13:35] <soid___> thank you Anvile but it only has one view (side)
[13:35] <vader_dk> its problely a driver issue and not really max's fault :]
[13:35] <Anvile> soid___ : then i don't know
[13:36] <Anvile> vader_dk : always had this prob :P
[13:36] <vader_dk> otherwise blame windows when firefox dont work
[13:36] <Anvile> with max
[13:36] <vader_dk> hehe oj
[13:36] <vader_dk> ok*
[13:36] <notfakie> firefox is a buggy piece of junk :p
[13:36] <Anvile> ya
[13:36] <Anvile> it crashes when you visit a webpage
[13:36] <notfakie> i love when it eats up 400 mbs of ram
[13:36] <notfakie> when i dont even have a window open
[13:36] <Anvile> lol
[13:36] <Anvile> i've had that several times
[13:40] <BiowaX> firefox is a memoryhogging piece of pain.. i should really find a proper bro
[13:40] <notfakie> i only keep it around for the middle clicking tabs
[13:40] <notfakie> i like that feature
[13:40] <notfakie> hopeully ie7 has that
[13:41] <BiowaX> the window tabs you mean ?
[13:41] <notfakie> yeah
[13:41] <BiowaX> yea, ie7 have that, if thats the latest version
[13:41] <BiowaX> know folks at work use the ie with tabs
[13:41] <notfakie> can you open a new one with middle click?
[13:41] <RogueLdr> yo party goers
[13:41] <BiowaX> dont know what specific version it is tho
[13:41] <notfakie> because thats the most important part :)
[13:41] <BiowaX> ahh
[13:41] <BiowaX> my bad
[13:41] <BiowaX> thought you meant the tabs itself
[13:41] <BiowaX> :)
[13:42] <notfakie> oh those are good too hehe
[13:42] <BiowaX> but what i find cool with firefox is the addons and stuff
[13:42] <notfakie> yeah i really like those too
[13:42] <notfakie> very useful
[13:42] <BiowaX> yepp
[13:43] <BiowaX> didnt know how much i needed the wheater forecast plugin before i installed
[13:43] <BiowaX> hehe
[13:44] <vader_dk> ie7 suxs
[13:44] <notfakie> hehe, a real nice one is "IE View"
[13:44] <notfakie> for those pages that firefox cant handle
[13:44] <vader_dk> only have fireFox problems with quicktime imbeded sites
[13:45] <RogueLdr> firefox has poopie scrolling
[13:45] <vader_dk> hmm it does?
[13:45] <RogueLdr> ie is smoother
[13:45] <RogueLdr> yah
[13:45] <RogueLdr> ie scrolls a lot nicer
[13:45] <BiowaX> it starts out smooth
[13:45] <vader_dk> scrollWheel
[13:45] <vader_dk> :]
[13:45] <BiowaX> so its not all bad
[13:45] <BiowaX> heh
[13:45] <RogueLdr> i use firefox though cause of tabs and mouse gesture and adblock
[13:45] <vader_dk> ye gestures are nice
[13:45] <BiowaX> but the longer it has run, the more chunky the scrolling gets
[13:45] <notfakie> i tried gestures
[13:45] <vader_dk> myIe2 have that
[13:46] <notfakie> but I just cant use them
[13:46] <BiowaX> scroll, stop for a second, scroll, stop for a second..
[13:46] <notfakie> because I have a click happy finger
[13:46] <vader_dk> haha
[13:46] <notfakie> i click and right click all over the screen for no reason
[13:46] <notfakie> lol
[13:46] <BiowaX> hehe
[13:46] <RogueLdr> i love gestures..
[13:46] <RogueLdr> i only use 1 gesture though really
[13:46] <vader_dk> i use a lot
[13:47] <RogueLdr> the back and forward.. 2 gestures.
[13:47] <notfakie> thats what the mouse 4 and 5 are for ;)
[13:47] <vader_dk> next tab previous tab - forward backward new tab etc.
[13:48] <vader_dk> and its cool to rightClick and then scroll
[13:48] <RogueLdr> not its more natura to do kungfu moves
[13:48] <RogueLdr> :)
[13:49] <vader_dk> haha
[13:49] <RogueLdr> i dont like mouse button 4 and 5... well i like th eone that goes back...
[13:49] <notfakie> haha
[13:49] <RogueLdr> boo
[13:49] <notfakie> lol
[13:49] <RogueLdr> its actually quicker to right click and drag left to go back
[13:49] <RogueLdr> and more comfortable
[13:51] <vader_dk> :]
[13:51] * |-Apoc-| is now known as [-Apoc-]
[13:52] <RogueLdr> holy crap
[13:53] <RogueLdr> xsi is listing "3dstudio max compatible keyboard layout" as a feature for
[13:53] <RogueLdr> why the hell would they do that
[13:53] <vader_dk> duno
[13:53] <RogueLdr> max layout is terrible
[13:53] <vader_dk> and all ppl use different layouts
[13:53] <vader_dk> so doest matter
[13:56] <RogueLdr> jah
[13:56] <RogueLdr> xsi's layout is nice
[13:56] <RogueLdr> xsi's bump maping sucks though
[13:56] * g|wrkwrk uses a modified max 4 layout
[13:56] <RogueLdr> some guy wrote a bump map plugin for xsi to replace their goofy bump mappe
[13:57] <RogueLdr> xsi's bump mapper loves to create seams across discontinous uvs
[14:01] <RogueLdr> itunes is always opened on my pc
[14:01] <RogueLdr> i swear it never closes
[14:08] <WotGoril> wow, just found the kewlest free program to make Ship hulls
[14:09] <WotGoril> http://www.freeship.org/ definatly bookmark this one
[14:10] <WotGoril> exports the hull to obj or dxf
[14:10] <WotGoril> freaking amazing
[14:12] <WotGoril> Damn, wish I had this a month ago
[14:16] <decap> is there something that makes objects you move around snap to others?
[14:23] <RogueLdr> hehe thats cool
[14:43] <SINN> hehe
[14:43] * SINN changes topic to 'NO WAREZ | NO BOOLEANS! | Still no chuck norris! | "Why you think
[14:45] * kpnutz is now known as krazypete
[14:45] <chop`> lo all
[14:45] <SINN> lo
[14:45] <chop`> anyone know of any cinema 4d channels? :/
[14:45] <chop`> need help with the thing
[14:45] <SINN> you can try to ask here too
[14:46] <chop`> ok
[14:46] <chop`> well
[14:46] <chop`> ive stuck a platonic in the scene, then added a matrix extrude to it
[14:46] <SINN> I know that some people use it
[14:46] <chop`> so its this wacky little organism
[14:47] <chop`> now i want to apply a gradient material to it, but when i do, it applies the
[14:47] <chop`> how can i get it to apply the gradient to the organism as a WHOLE?
[14:49] <SINN> guess no one knows....
[14:50] <chop`> yeh
[14:50] <chop`> or everyone is dead :/
[14:50] <SINN> just try again later
[14:50] <SINN> just relax, watch some porn.
[14:50] <chop`> haha
[14:50] <chop`> im relaxed man
[14:51] <SINN> hhmm
[14:51] <SINN> im not
[14:51] <SINN> but no porn could fix that
[14:51] <SINN> I got the whole jenna collection right here
[14:53] <chop`> shes not great
[14:53] <RogueLdr> all 3d seems like lifeless shells to me now
[14:53] <RogueLdr> hehe
[14:56] <SINN> 3d..
[14:56] <SINN> its fun huh?
[14:56] <SINN> to do 3d.
[14:56] <SINN> to create kick ass stuff.
[14:57] <mess> whats a good animation package?
[15:11] <decap> for porn!
[15:11] <SINN> hehe
[15:14] <chop`> hell
[15:14] <chop`> how the HELL do i make this damn object uneditable
[15:14] <chop`> these segments are getting on my nerves!
[15:15] <SINN> ?
[15:16] <SINN> well
[15:17] <SINN> remap it?
[15:17] <SINN> your mapping is set to "face" ?
[15:18] <chop`> i have no idea
[15:18] <chop`> i dont even know what face is
[15:18] <SINN> hmm
[15:18] <SINN> cinema 4d right?
[15:19] <chop`> yeh
[15:20] <SINN> ok
[15:21] <SINN> http://www.maxoncomputer.com/tutorial_detail.asp?tutorialID=307
[15:21] <SINN> does that tell anything about uvw mapping?
[15:21] <chop`> *reads*
[15:23] <SINN> I think
[15:23] <SINN> I showed you the wrong tut
[15:23] <SINN> hehe
[15:23] <chop`> lol
[15:24] <SINN> well then again
[15:24] <SINN> all you need to do is change the uvw mapping
[15:25] <chop`> how.. ?
[15:28] <SINN> I cant find stuff about this for you online
[15:28] <SINN> so I guess you just could look this up in your manual
[15:28] <SINN> ;)
[15:28] <chop`> haha
[15:28] <SINN> seriously.. UVW is the keyword
[15:28] <chop`> k
[15:28] <chop`> thanks
[15:28] <SINN> im sure itll work out
[15:32] <reddino> we need to create a site
[15:32] <reddino> who wants to help
[15:32] <reddino> (:
[15:33] <chop`> thanks SINN
[15:33] <SINN> your welcome :)
[15:33] <reddino> nobody ? :|
[15:34] <SINN> you know, we need to open a position of helpers on this IRC channel
[15:34] <reddino> i own 3dsmax.us we can use that
[15:35] <reddino> (:
[15:35] <reddino> or maxscript.info :|
[15:35] <SINN> asking for "tons of knowledge or 3dsmax"
[15:35] <SINN> "an internet connection at home"
[15:35] <SINN> are that pages?
[15:35] <SINN> or channels?
[15:35] <reddino> pages
[15:35] <reddino> domains
[15:36] <SINN> ah l33t
[15:37] <SINN> so what you do with it?
[15:37] <reddino> i just own those
[15:37] <SINN> ah
[15:37] <reddino> i own ots of domains
[15:38] <reddino> even melscript.com (:
[15:38] <SINN> like what?
[15:38] <SINN> no?
[15:38] <reddino> yeah
[15:38] <SINN> hmm strange
[15:39] <SINN> whats it about?
[15:39] <reddino> what
[15:39] <SINN> melscript for instance
[15:40] <SINN> I once was thinking of claiming suicide.com
[15:40] <reddino> i own the domain name
[15:40] <reddino> i am not using those really
[15:40] <SINN> and just start a page with tuts on how to killyourself
[15:40] <reddino> i just own them
[15:40] <SINN> and articles and a forumn
[15:40] <reddino> i have lots of useless domains that we can use (:
[15:42] <SINN> so reddino
[15:42] <SINN> you want to create a site.
[15:42] <notfakie> Violet10 is a spam bot
[15:42] <notfakie> take care of her sinn
[15:42] <SINN> there
[15:42] <reddino> kill kill kill
[15:42] <reddino> heheh
[15:42] <notfakie> thank ye
[15:42] <SINN> u sure btw?
[15:42] <SINN> o well
[15:42] <reddino> i dont want to create a site i have no time (:
[15:42] <notfakie> just kidding that was actually amigos wife
[15:42] <notfakie> hehe
[15:42] <SINN> lol
[15:42] <SINN> bastard
[15:43] <reddino> but i have the domains and all the space needed to create anything online
[15:43] <reddino> so people on this chann can help
[15:43] <reddino> thats the point
[15:43] <reddino> (:
[15:43] <reddino> that way community will grow
[15:43] <reddino> :>
[15:44] * O|nap is now known as Obfti
[15:46] <SINN> Xenia27
[15:47] * jrHe|pman is now known as jrHelpman
[15:51] <SINN> Ruairi!
[15:52] <g|wrkwrk> ru-air-ie
[15:53] <Ruairi> hello
[15:53] <SINN> hello!
[15:53] <SINN> !!1!
[15:54] <SINN> Hows it going Ruairi
[15:54] <Ruairi> ummm... gross... channel 4...uhhhhhhh
[15:54] <Ruairi> yeesh
[15:55] <SINN> I dont have chan4
[15:55] <Ruairi> you ever watch channel 4 in the uk?
[15:55] <Ruairi> well - it didn't show it, but someone was being... umm... fisted... and it s
[15:55] <reddino> anybody here good at street fighter
[15:56] <SINN> would be pretty awkward for me to do
[15:56] <Ruairi> you didn't need to know that did you
[15:56] <SINN> reddino I can do "raheeyookeeh" all the time
[15:57] <reddino> wanna play ?
[15:57] <reddino> vs reddino ?
[15:57] <SINN> Ruairi can I see this online?
[15:57] <SINN> I mean,. thats sick
[15:57] <Ruairi> blah
[15:58] <Ruairi> why would you want to?
[15:58] <Ruairi> you a homosexuologist?
[15:58] <g|wrkwrk> run to the hiiiiiilllssss
[15:59] <g|wrkwrk> run foooor yooouuur liiiiiifes
[15:59] <SINN> Ruairi since when fisting is only for gays?
[15:59] <SINN> hmmm..
[15:59] <SINN> I thought it was just a normal thing to get it all started
[15:59] <SINN> foreplay n such
[16:00] <Ruairi> um... on this occasion, it happened to be.
[16:00] <SINN> bcoz, im a true romantic
[16:01] <SINN> someone know mark mulligan?
[16:02] <SINN> I found a 5 years old email from him in my inbox
[16:02] <SINN> when I replied, I got the email back again :(
[16:02] <SINN> but hes a pretty good 3d artist, I wonder who knows him, lost all his contact
[16:04] <SINN> nobody?
[16:05] <Ruairi> dunno mate
[16:05] <SINN> its ok
[16:05] <SINN> hes from .au
[16:06] <g|wrkwrk> aka endoftheworld
[16:07] <SINN> hehe
[16:07] <SINN> literally
[16:07] <RogueLdr> fisting.the.president.org
[16:07] <RogueLdr> i'm starting it
[16:07] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:07] <SINN> haha
[16:07] <g|wrkwrk> ccrat went there... poof, gone
[16:07] <SINN> yeah
[16:08] <Anvile> damn
[16:08] <Anvile> haven't seen him in a while
[16:08] <Anvile> what the hell is he up to
[16:08] <SINN> who?
[16:08] <Anvile> ccrat
[16:08] <Anvile> !seen ccrat
[16:08] <mrHelpman> Anvile, ccrat was last seen on #3dsmax 290 days, 18 hours, 48 minutes ago
[16:08] <Anvile> :|
[16:08] <RogueLdr> nice
[16:08] <SINN> ask docholiday
[16:08] <RogueLdr> good for cc.. enrique got a life... somethign the rest of us cant do
[16:09] <RogueLdr> ;)
[16:09] <SINN> pff
[16:09] <SINN> maybe he just dont have a internet connection
[16:09] <SINN> hmm gossiping 'round is bad
[16:10] <Images> maybe he got hit by a truck
[16:10] <g|wrkwrk> yeah, i guess animal logic cant afford internet
[16:11] <DogFu> anybody been to europe?
[16:11] <SINN> yeah
[16:11] <DogFu> do you have to check in your passport at the hotel or smth?
[16:12] <DogFu> how does that work
[16:12] <SINN> well
[16:12] <SINN> im frmo europe
[16:12] <DogFu> ah
[16:12] <SINN> but its the same the other way around
[16:12] <SINN> you apply for a visa
[16:12] <SINN> you get the visa
[16:12] <SINN> you go to the countr across the border
[16:12] <Anvile> DogFu : yes, you need your passport as ID
[16:12] <DogFu> i thought it was a bit more free-roaming
[16:12] <SINN> and. when you are in the country,you go to the hotel
[16:13] <Anvile> we don't have any motels like in the US
[16:13] <Anvile> well
[16:13] <Anvile> not as abundant
[16:13] <SINN> and show the passport with the visa
[16:13] <DogFu> ah
[16:13] <notfakie> wtf
[16:13] <notfakie> i get visas in the mail all the time
[16:13] <DogFu> isn't that required by the interpol or smth
[16:13] <SINN> because on your visa request, it should say even where you are going to stay n
[16:13] <DogFu> yea
[16:14] <SINN> well you have to register your visa at the hotel
[16:14] <DogFu> well, i thought you could like, just hop across europe or smth
[16:14] <SINN> once you are in europe you can
[16:14] <DogFu> w/o visa
[16:14] <DogFu> ah
[16:14] <SINN> whats the name of the europe visa?
[16:15] <DogFu> well, i'm not going to europe yet
[16:15] <DogFu> just wondering
[16:15] <SINN> why not?
[16:15] <DogFu> :)
[16:15] <DogFu> saving money
[16:15] <DogFu> and umm
[16:15] <DogFu> waiting for world cup to die down
[16:15] <DogFu> heh
[16:15] <DogFu> i wish i was there for world cup :(
[16:15] <SINN> what country would you like to visit?
[16:16] <DogFu> france, germany, spain
[16:16] <DogFu> liechtenstein
[16:16] <DogFu> just because it's tiny and has a long name :p
[16:16] <SINN> andorra not smaller?
[16:16] <DogFu> i don't even know where adorra is
[16:16] <DogFu> heh
[16:16] <SINN> on the border of spain and france
[16:16] <soid___> lichtenstein doesnt belong to european union
[16:17] <SINN> soid___ yeah its a state on its own?
[16:17] <DogFu> oh so i'd need to get a visa huh
[16:17] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/ogre06.jpg
[16:17] <RogueLdr> opinions ?
[16:17] <SINN> DogFu depends.. sometimes you get the visa when passing the border
[16:17] <DogFu> ah ok
[16:17] <SINN> you need to check that where you are from
[16:17] <soid___> yes its an own state
[16:18] <soid___> country
[16:18] <SINN> RogueLdr, thats cool nice skin
[16:18] <g|wrkwrk> rogue, make a cross-eyed version of him and i'll send it to my ex-boss
[16:18] <g|wrkwrk> just looks like him
[16:18] <SINN> haha
[16:18] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:18] <g|wrkwrk> besides the missing cross-eyed look
[16:19] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/ogre01.jpg
[16:19] <RogueLdr> your boss looked like this?!
[16:19] <RogueLdr> scary
[16:19] <g|wrkwrk> the head is equally ugly, not that muscular tho
[16:19] <g|wrkwrk> nice work :D
[16:20] <RogueLdr> thanks
[16:20] <SINN> yeah that looks cool
[16:20] <Aqua|Work> anyone here use AE that could lend me a hand?
[16:21] <g|wrkwrk> heh, i'd better send it to my ex workmates who are still there
[16:21] <g|wrkwrk> they'd laugh loud enough to get fired :P
[16:21] <RogueLdr> aqua: watcha need help on?
[16:21] <Aqua|Work> render pass compositing
[16:21] <RogueLdr> g: he looked like that? :)
[16:21] <g|wrkwrk> the portrait reminded me of him
[16:21] <g|wrkwrk> hes a skinny asshat
[16:21] <RogueLdr> aqua: whats the prob
[16:22] <g|wrkwrk> but the head somehow looks familiar :D
[16:22] <g|wrkwrk> and the screaming pose too :P
[16:22] <Aqua|Work> I can't get my hair fur pass to composite in
[16:22] <Aqua|Work> my hf pass has black for alpha i suppose
[16:22] <RogueLdr> ?
[16:23] <Aqua|Work> whatever the defaults are with max
[16:23] <RogueLdr> did you open up a frame to see what the alpha looks like?
[16:23] <Aqua|Work> how would I composite render passes?
[16:23] <g|wrkwrk> so if you ever put eyeballs in, make them crosseyed and render a closeup f
[16:23] <Aqua|Work> ;p
[16:23] <RogueLdr> hehehe
[16:23] <g|wrkwrk> like the first one you posted :P
[16:23] <RogueLdr> eyeballs.. i need to do that
[16:24] <Aqua|Work> every composited render passes?
[16:24] <Aqua|Work> ever*
[16:24] <RogueLdr> yeah
[16:24] <g|wrkwrk> i bet rogue did that :P
[16:24] <RogueLdr> :)
[16:24] <g|wrkwrk> like once or twice :D
[16:25] <Aqua|Work> :)
[16:25] <Aqua|Work> can you guide me just a little?
[16:25] <Aqua|Work> I'm really lost
[16:25] <Aqua|Work> I'm trying to blend it.. is it anything other than choosing the alpha bl
[16:26] <RogueLdr> well if you rendered it correctly, it should have an alpha in the tga file
[16:27] <Aqua|Work> so i should render the pass out to a tga file
[16:27] <reddino> anybody wanna play super street fighter 2 against reddino (:
[16:27] <Aqua|Work> cuz its rendered as a jpg
[16:27] <Aqua|Work> lol
[16:27] <RogueLdr> you dont have to play with the blending processes unless you're trying to
[16:27] <RogueLdr> ah
[16:27] <RogueLdr> thats your problem
[16:27] <Aqua|Work> ah
[16:27] <Aqua|Work> fuckn a
[16:27] <Aqua|Work> Thank ya :)
[16:27] <RogueLdr> if you just rendered a jpg... you have no alpha channel
[16:28] <RogueLdr> the alpha channel asks as a mask
[16:28] <RogueLdr> when you composite it in
[16:28] <RogueLdr> when you render as .tga from max... make sure you set the 32bit option in
[16:29] <RogueLdr> never render as jpg
[16:29] <g|wrkwrk> jpg is bad, hmkay?
[16:29] <chop`> why is jpg bad?
[16:29] <Aqua|Work> jpg for beauty pass though right?
[16:30] <g|wrkwrk> tga or tif, if you've got your exotic day, rpf or something :P
[16:30] <RogueLdr> yeah or tif
[16:31] <Aqua|Work> tga for all?
[16:31] <g|wrkwrk> with tif you can enable alpha split and it will create two seperate files.
[16:31] <Aqua|Work> even beauty passes?
[16:31] <RogueLdr> jpg is a compressed format that loses quality. it sucks for final output b
[16:31] <RogueLdr> if you want to render compressed... tga with RLA compression, TIF with LZH
[16:31] <g|wrkwrk> jpeg has a tendency to start flickering too
[16:32] <RogueLdr> atleast they have alph a channels and are lossless compression so the qual
[16:32] <RogueLdr> jpg cant color correct for shit either
[16:32] <RogueLdr> if its too compressed
[16:32] <RogueLdr> jpg is a delivery format... when size is an issue, not a working format
[16:33] <Aqua|Work> wow
[16:33] <Aqua|Work> really
[16:33] <Aqua|Work> so tga eh?
[16:33] <RogueLdr> yeah.. tga or tif
[16:33] <Aqua|Work> glad i didnt kick off the farm
[16:33] <Aqua|Work> lol
[16:33] <RogueLdr> or if you're fancy openexr :)
[16:35] <RogueLdr> g: do you know if its possible to render to an openexr format and have the
[16:35] <Aqua|Work> openexr?
[16:35] <RogueLdr> dont worry about openexr :)
[16:35] <RogueLdr> http://www.openexr.com/
[16:36] <g|wrkwrk> hm, with some renderers its possible i think
[16:36] <Aqua|Work> I also need to composite chalk on a sidewalk
[16:36] <Aqua|Work> should i do that in 3d? I was thinking i'd do it in AE
[16:36] <RogueLdr> just wondering if its possible to render to 10bit color now
[16:36] <Aqua|Work> wouldnt I render a composite for the shape of the chalk in 3d first with
[16:36] <g|wrkwrk> vray supports rendering to .hdr if im not wrong
[16:36] <RogueLdr> is the sidewalk 3d?
[16:36] <Aqua|Work> yes
[16:36] <RogueLdr> do it in 3d
[16:36] <Aqua|Work> it has get sweeped off
[16:36] <Aqua|Work> lol
[16:37] <Aqua|Work> not sure how i'd do that very nicely in 3d
[16:37] <g|wrkwrk> sidewalk? link?
[16:37] <RogueLdr> oh
[16:37] <RogueLdr> then do it passes
[16:37] <RogueLdr> put it this way.. the more render passes you have... the less rendering yo
[16:37] <Aqua|Work> right
[16:37] <RogueLdr> you can color correct the sidewalk or the chalk seperate...
[16:37] <Aqua|Work> so do a chalk pass
[16:37] <Aqua|Work> and mask the pass in AE
[16:37] <Aqua|Work> animated mask*
[16:38] <RogueLdr> of course.. if you totally fuck up your passes.. you have more rendering t
[16:38] <RogueLdr> ;)
[16:39] <Aqua|Work> can I ask what direction i should go for rendering that pass
[16:39] <Aqua|Work> i've never did this manually before
[16:39] <Aqua|Work> is there any documentation you know of?
[16:39] <RogueLdr> man i have access to 10bit hd cameras... fucking nice stuff
[16:39] <Aqua|Work> wow
[16:40] <g|wrkwrk> thats just because you lend your ass to the equipment guy :P
[16:40] <Ruairi> RogueLdr which camera?
[16:41] <RogueLdr> ruairi: not sure the models but sonys and panasonics
[16:41] <Ruairi> was it the panavision genesis?
[16:41] <Ruairi> or the older piece of shit they used on Star Wars?
[16:41] <RogueLdr> but we also have a connection to a camera rental service in the city where
[16:42] <Ruairi> theres only 2 HD cameras worth talking about - the arri d20 and panavision g
[16:42] <RogueLdr> rauiri: no its the new shit
[16:42] <Ruairi> the rest are bleh
[16:42] <Ruairi> so it's the genesis then?
[16:42] <g|wrkwrk> you guys suck :P
[16:42] <Aqua|Work> how many of you lost a girl over work
[16:43] <g|wrkwrk> haha
[16:43] <RogueLdr> rauiri: i'm not at all sure.. my friend and co director is the physical fi
[16:43] <Ruairi> hehe
[16:43] <Ruairi> RogueLdr just kind of interested - these are the 2 cameras that can use prop
[16:43] <RogueLdr> but we have access to all HD equipt now.. especially with the camera place
[16:43] <Ruairi> and output uncompressed 4:4:4
[16:44] <RogueLdr> ruairi: oh yeah it can undercrank and use 35mm lenses.. one of them shoots
[16:44] <Ruairi> so it's pretty fucking amazing for blue/green screen stuff...
[16:44] <RogueLdr> i'm so lame when it comes to cameras
[16:44] <RogueLdr> i only know how to use them :)
[16:45] <Ruairi> Rogue - just get a 35mm slr stills camera - it's all the same - just over ti
[16:45] <Ruairi> hehe
[16:45] <Ruairi> :)
[16:45] <RogueLdr> :)
[16:45] <RogueLdr> all the same!
[16:45] <RogueLdr> my friends got a nice final cut setup and can edit like 2k realtime
[16:45] <Ruairi> except I don't think you can use anamorphic lenses on an slr :P
[16:45] <RogueLdr> pretty nice
[16:45] <Ruairi> it's not 2k biatch
[16:47] <RogueLdr> no?
[16:47] <Ruairi> 1920x1080
[16:47] <Ruairi> not 2048x1556
[16:47] <Ruairi> which is 2k
[16:47] <RogueLdr> no i think he just mentioned that black magic relased a firmware upgrade t
[16:47] <g|wrkwrk> 1080i/p
[16:47] <RogueLdr> hes got a black magic setup with a fiber channel raid
[16:48] <RogueLdr> a couple of those lovely 30inch mac monitors
[16:48] <RogueLdr> haha
[16:48] <RogueLdr> i want to kill him for them
[16:48] <Ruairi> the firmware upgrade is for multibridge extreme, not the decklink board whic
[16:48] <RogueLdr> ah
[16:49] <Ruairi> though he might have it... but I'm guessing not...
[16:49] <RogueLdr> i tihnk he does
[16:49] <Ruairi> yeah final cut pro is the ONLY argument I've ever seen for getting a mac
[16:49] <RogueLdr> i'm not familiar with that stuff.
[16:49] <Ruairi> pretty cool system
[16:49] <chop`> anyone know why when you give an object a glow in cinema 4d, a reflection in
[16:50] <RogueLdr> final cuts pretty nice
[16:50] <RogueLdr> premeire pro 2 is pretty nice as well
[16:50] * g|wrkwrk points at chan topic
[16:50] <g|wrkwrk> no C4D
[16:50] <RogueLdr> and avid.. avid is hated by so many
[16:50] <Ruairi> I have a decklink board HD on my pc, + a 2TB raid array, but my motherboard
[16:50] * g|wrkwrk changes topic to 'NO WAREZ | NO BOOLEANS! | Still no chuck norris! | no C4D | "W
[16:50] <Ruairi> so gotta sort it out - will have HD playback realtime myself soon enough tho
[16:50] <chop`> right...
[16:51] <chop`> my bad
[16:51] <g|wrkwrk> :P
[16:51] <RogueLdr> ruari: what ar you editing with?
[16:51] <chop`> theres no c4d channel though :(
[16:51] <Ruairi> chop` because you are in #3dsmax?
[16:51] <Ruairi> rogue - premiere pro
[16:51] <RogueLdr> ruairi: ah.. what do you think of 2?
[16:51] <chop`> Ruairi: No, theres actually no C4D channel.
[16:52] <RogueLdr> cause no one uses c4d
[16:52] <RogueLdr> ;)
[16:52] <g|wrkwrk> there must be one
[16:52] <RogueLdr> wacky program
[16:52] <Ruairi> rogue - whats really fucking cool is I can take black magic codec files dire
[16:53] <RogueLdr> is it all 10bit?
[16:53] <Anvile> you should be daaaaaaaancing
[16:53] <Anvile> yeaah
[16:53] <RogueLdr> i was really impressed with his setup. HD is really nice
[16:53] <Dr_Rambo> God damn it
[16:53] <Dr_Rambo> this is scary
[16:53] <Dr_Rambo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staphylococcus_aureus
[16:53] <Ruairi> chop` just do the glows in post man, you have better control anyway. This wh
[16:53] <chop`> ummm
[16:53] <chop`> in post? :/
[16:54] <chop`> im a newbie
[16:54] <chop`> learning the ropes atm
[16:54] <RogueLdr> no one does it all in one pass
[16:54] <Ruairi> seriously you are better off, it's easier, more flexible, and you aren't STU
[16:54] <RogueLdr> its just impossible
[16:54] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:54] <RogueLdr> you can play with it more in post too
[16:54] <RogueLdr> much better
[16:54] <Ruairi> rogue - it's 10 bit, but I only have the 4:2:2 board...
[16:54] <RogueLdr> ah
[16:54] <Ruairi> but it's HD!
[16:54] <RogueLdr> hd is sweet
[16:54] <chop`> ummm
[16:54] <chop`> what is post?
[16:55] <Anvile> its after
[16:55] <Ruairi> I should have gone for the 4:4:4 but I was being cheap... slightly regret it
[16:55] <Ruairi> how wrong I waz
[16:55] <RogueLdr> ruairi: ah 2 years it wont matter ;) there will be somethign better
[16:55] <Ruairi> chop` post process... in 2d. in photoshop or afterFX or whatever
[16:55] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:55] <RogueLdr> digital fusion!
[16:56] <RogueLdr> i love digital fusion
[16:56] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:56] <RogueLdr> even though 5 is a buggy little thing
[16:56] <RogueLdr> chop: Basically you want to render in layers so that you have more control
[16:57] <RogueLdr> it gives you far greater control in color correction and post effects... a
[16:57] <chop`> im looking for something in C4D that says post :)
[16:57] <RogueLdr> lets say a particle goes somewhere you dont like.. well on the particle la
[16:58] <RogueLdr> you wont find it
[16:58] <RogueLdr> post isnt a tool :)
[16:58] <chop`> im literally opening C4D for the first time today.
[16:58] <Ruairi> chop` I'm suggesting you don't do it in cinema 4d at all!
[16:58] <RogueLdr> ah
[16:58] <Ruairi> ah ok
[16:58] <RogueLdr> c4d is a post production tool, just like after fx, fusion, combustion, pho
[16:58] <RogueLdr> editing software is considered post
[16:58] <chop`> post production tool ?
[16:58] <chop`> eh
[16:58] <chop`> and 3dsmax is pre?
[16:59] <RogueLdr> c4d is just 1 production tool.. use all of the others and you get a better
[16:59] <chop`> are you saying 3dsmax is a production tool and c4d is post production?
[16:59] <RogueLdr> chop: What are you tring to do?
[16:59] <RogueLdr> yes
[16:59] <RogueLdr> hehe
[16:59] <chop`> ughhh
[16:59] <chop`> how are they different?
[17:00] <chop`> http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firstrender8cf.jpg
[17:00] <chop`> thats my first render ever
[17:00] <chop`> just did it now
[17:00] <RogueLdr> post production means "after production" and production means "the actual
[17:00] <chop`> reflection is a bit shoddy though
[17:00] <chop`> ok
[17:00] <RogueLdr> :)
[17:00] <chop`> btw, i photoshopped that a bit ;)
[17:01] <RogueLdr> which usually means we get headaches because we are post people
[17:01] <RogueLdr> although i'm trying to do more production stuff hehe
[17:01] <Ruairi> do the glows in photoshop too..
[17:01] <g|wrkwrk> good thing i'm a shader/lighting monkey :P
[17:01] <chop`> well
[17:01] <chop`> i did the glow in C4D
[17:01] <RogueLdr> g: you're a post monkey
[17:01] <RogueLdr> lighting and shaders is a BITCH
[17:01] <chop`> dunno how to do it in Photoshop really
[17:01] <RogueLdr> lucky you!
[17:02] <RogueLdr> link doesnt work
[17:02] <Ruairi> well, if you want to do this for a living, that's something you are gonna ha
[17:02] <LordCreep> g|s is just a monkey
[17:02] <LordCreep> ;)
[17:02] <Anvile> will the wind ever remember
[17:02] <Anvile> the names it has blown in the past
[17:02] <Ruairi> LordCreep is a donkey raping shiteater
[17:02] <g|wrkwrk> heh
[17:02] <Ruairi> sorry... did I go too far?
[17:03] <g|wrkwrk> you're masters personal anal probe
[17:03] <g|wrkwrk> and you like it
[17:03] <g|wrkwrk> :P
[17:03] <LordCreep> Master prefers monkeys
[17:03] <RogueLdr> i'm a sit around and play soul calibur 3 and street fighter 3rd strike mon
[17:04] <LordCreep> Speaking of I think he's getting married
[17:04] <g|wrkwrk> uhm, what?
[17:04] <LordCreep> lol yeah
[17:04] <g|wrkwrk> to his right hand? is that legal in the states now? :D
[17:04] <LordCreep> haha
[17:04] <LordCreep> Actually
[17:04] <LordCreep> To his finger
[17:05] <g|wrkwrk> uuh
[17:05] <RogueLdr> ruairi: still doign 3d? or doing more live action?
[17:05] <chop`> k
[17:05] <chop`> night guys
[17:05] <chop`> bbl
[17:05] <Ruairi> ummm... well, dunno really... not doing... much.
[17:05] <gkmotu> www.gkmotu.com first tut online hdr brazil r/s the fundamentals.
[17:05] <RogueLdr> ruairi hehe me either
[17:06] <Ruairi> havent directed an ad since last fucking november!
[17:06] <RogueLdr> i just edited something for aol thats my last actual work
[17:06] <Ruairi> but I'm going to Paris next week to direct an ad, which is both a shoot and
[17:06] <RogueLdr> ah
[17:06] <Ruairi> (I was asking about the genesis because that was mentioned as a possibility
[17:07] <Ruairi> shooting on 35mm probably though...
[17:07] <RogueLdr> my friend and i are going to shoot some spec ads in hd. we're at the think
[17:07] <RogueLdr> ah
[17:08] <RogueLdr> i'm pretty excited about getting to use the hd cams
[17:08] <Ruairi> yeah, would like to play wiv 'em myself
[17:12] * jrHe|pman is now known as jrHelpman
[17:12] * g|wrkwrk is now known as g|s
[17:13] <Ruairi> RogueLdr so got any ideas for a spec ad yet?
[17:14] <RogueLdr> like iw ould tell you! mr oscar nominated ad shooter
[17:14] <RogueLdr> ;)
[17:14] <RogueLdr> actually no i dont
[17:14] <g|s> haha
[17:14] <RogueLdr> we've got a couple of ad agency connections so we wan tto shoot something
[17:14] <RogueLdr> just no ideas yet
[17:14] <g|s> Ruairi* :D
[17:14] <RogueLdr> we're also shooting a music video for a band on some small label
[17:15] <Ruairi> no I'm not asking what they ARE - just asking if you have any good ones :P
[17:15] <RogueLdr> so the spec ads are in the back of our minds
[17:15] <RogueLdr> ;)
[17:15] <RogueLdr> i wish i did
[17:15] <RogueLdr> we had one idea we tossed around.. but i wasnt thrilled too much with it
[17:15] <RogueLdr> we're trying to be more european in standards
[17:16] <RogueLdr> translation, more open minded..
[17:16] <RogueLdr> hahar
[17:16] <Ruairi> heh
[17:16] <RogueLdr> we tend to agree that american commercials usually suck
[17:17] <RogueLdr> and theres a lot of money going towards online marketing now
[17:17] <g|s> i kan tranzlate it to germanz :P
[17:17] <RogueLdr> so internet ads, viral videos etc... lots of money in it right now
[17:17] <RogueLdr> so if we try a viral like ad, it wouldnt have to live up to lame ass FCC s
[17:19] <Ruairi> well, having to work within limits is par for course... and viral ads are us
[17:19] <RogueLdr> lots of magazines are suffering due to online marketing and now ad agencie
[17:20] <RogueLdr> ruairi: very true... but the cutting edge trend in ads is that they're thr
[17:20] <RogueLdr> atleast here in ny
[17:20] <RogueLdr> gonna be another bubble ;)
[17:21] <RogueLdr> some viral videos are done cheap... sony has done a few that were quite pr
[17:21] <Ruairi> well rock on if you can make it work :)
[17:21] <RogueLdr> the thing is.. most college kids... and the 18 to 24 year old market are j
[17:22] <RogueLdr> well its a chance.. who knows. I look at it as it'll be fun to just shoot
[17:22] <RogueLdr> :)
[17:22] <RogueLdr> doesnt cost me anything but time
[17:22] <RogueLdr> and i get to learn more
[17:23] <Ruairi> I mean, the budget for the ad I'm doing next is $365,000... don't think many
[17:23] <Ruairi> but yeah, it's probably a really good way in!
[17:23] <RogueLdr> no, definatly thats true
[17:26] <RogueLdr> broadcast is always more, but the goal would be to get to broadcast. Its j
[17:27] <RogueLdr> i'm a nobody with talent.. so who knows :)
[17:27] <Ruairi> hehe :)
[17:27] <g|s> well, if you were a somebody without talent, you'd already be president of the
[17:27] <Ruairi> well, you are definitely in a pretty good position to make something!
[17:30] <Ruairi> get some bitches and shoot a high def porno
[17:30] <Ruairi> yeah boyyyyyy
[17:30] <RogueLdr> dam right
[17:31] <RogueLdr> tempting
[17:31] <RogueLdr> movies are lame anyways
[17:31] <RogueLdr> ;)
[17:31] <RogueLdr> peter jackson did all that work on king kong, when he could have just made
[17:32] <Ruairi> Wes Craven directed pornos
[17:33] <Ruairi> and Barry Sonenfeld shot 'em
[17:33] <Ruairi> (he directed Men in black etc. if you didn't know that)
[17:37] <RogueLdr> yeah?
[17:37] <RogueLdr> yeah i know barry
[17:37] <RogueLdr> didnt know he did porn
[17:37] <RogueLdr> ncie
[17:37] <RogueLdr> he should have stuck to it
[17:37] <RogueLdr> did you see Wild wild west....
[17:37] <RogueLdr> he really needs to do porn again
[17:37] <RogueLdr> ;)
[17:37] <Ruairi> hehe
[17:38] <RogueLdr> btw the hitchhikers guide the galaxy is great
[17:38] <RogueLdr> so is shop girl
[17:38] <Ruairi> bleh... I thought it was bleh.
[17:38] <RogueLdr> really?
[17:38] <g|s> g'night guys
[17:38] <RogueLdr> i liked hitchhikers guide a lot
[17:39] <RogueLdr> jus twish it was longer
[17:40] <Ruairi> meh
[17:40] <Ruairi> I liked the Devil's rejects more
[17:41] <RogueLdr> havetn seen or heard of it
[17:41] <Ruairi> this is fucking funny as all hell
[17:42] <Ruairi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk&search=kevin%20smith
[17:42] <Ruairi> funniest thing I've seen in ages
[17:42] <RogueLdr> oh is that kevin talking about the spider? :)
[17:42] <RogueLdr> and superman
[17:42] <RogueLdr> and wild wild west?
[17:42] <RogueLdr> hehe
[17:43] <RogueLdr> yeah thats histerical
[17:45] <Ruairi> yeah
[17:45] <Ruairi> genius
[17:47] <Ruairi> well, I go now
[17:47] <Ruairi> night
[18:03] <Aqua|Work> lmao
[18:10] <RogueLdr> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof
[18:32] * NiteLite is now known as nitelite
[19:07] <Aqua|Work> anyone else experience hair and fur dynamics not working very well with c
[19:09] <Aqua|Work> can anyone think of a good way to wipe something off of an object
[19:10] <Aqua|Work> any input would be appreciated
[19:13] <Aqua|Work> what do ya think about animated textures?
[19:45] <mess> heya, so im trying to model the skin flaps of a dragon wing, i have the bone a
[20:13] <WotGoril> aloha
[20:14] <nwar> i pee'd in my bed last night
[20:14] <Blaedmon> same here
[20:15] <nwar> i sneezed and some pee came out while i was sleeping
[20:16] <nwar> and a little poo too
[20:16] <nwar> then i pretended i was riding on a horse and buggy
[20:19] <Wiregridd> i made a gizmo&effect and it worked fine, then i tried to make a second g
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[20:24] <WotGoril> http://www.freeship.org/ if ya didn't see this posted before, VERY kewl f
[20:24] <nwar> google just bought a cool program called sketchUp or something
[20:24] <nwar> check it out
[20:26] <RogueLdr> CHECK THIS OUT!
[20:26] <RogueLdr> http://www.gx3r.com/downloads/Videos/blow-up_large.wmv
[20:26] <RogueLdr> weeeeeeeee
[20:27] <nwar> can you please poste a larger video next time
[20:28] <Wiregridd> it's too small?
[20:28] <RogueLdr> haha
[20:28] <nwar> if you're blind it is
[20:28] <Wiregridd> you're blind?
[20:28] <nwar> yes
[20:28] <nwar> i have a brail monitor
[20:29] <Wiregridd> cool
[20:29] <Wiregridd> that must make 3ds easier
[20:29] <Wiregridd> like real sculpting
[20:29] <RogueLdr> you watch it?
[20:29] <nwar> does someone get hurt in this?
[20:29] <Wiregridd> i'm at 16%
[20:29] <RogueLdr> no
[20:29] <nwar> ;/
[20:29] <nwar> is it justing 5 min of smashing?
[20:30] <RogueLdr> theres funny.. 5 minutes of funny
[20:34] <Aqua|Work> lmao
[20:34] <Aqua|Work> at the brail shit
[20:34] <Wiregridd> okay, so "sphere" gizmos work fine but i can't get the "box" gizmos to re
[20:34] <Wiregridd> any ideas?
[20:37] <RogueLdr> anyone see that dam video!@
[20:38] <Wiregridd> 94% downloaded
[20:41] <Wiregridd> alright
[20:41] <Wiregridd> i saw it
[20:41] <RogueLdr> its fun
[20:41] <RogueLdr> you like it
[20:41] <RogueLdr> it makes giggle poof
[20:41] <Wiregridd> is that you shooting the rocket?
[20:42] <RogueLdr> no
[20:42] <RogueLdr> hehe
[20:42] <RogueLdr> not me has nothign to do with me
[20:42] <Wiregridd> why do you have the video then?
[20:42] <RogueLdr> found it
[20:43] <RogueLdr> not my webpage
[20:43] <Wiregridd> ah, i see
[20:43] <Wiregridd> well the rocket was nice
[20:44] <RogueLdr> i thought it was fun
[20:45] <WotGoril> heh
[20:46] <WotGoril> Would have liked to see better explosives
[20:47] <WotGoril> Quarter Stick encased in BB's works nice
[20:47] <WotGoril> just make sure you hide behind a tree
[21:16] <Wiregridd> i'm trying to make a jet stream animation, but its looking kind of bad, t
[21:16] <Wiregridd> it looks like a solid object
[21:18] <Wiregridd> i think it has to do with the orientation of the flame
[21:18] <Wiregridd> which way is up?
[21:18] <Wiregridd> can anyone tell me which way is up?
[21:59] <An4rchy> hello all
[21:59] <An4rchy> any one knows any free script that will randomize the offsets XYZ or height
[22:02] <mcarp> whats up?
[22:04] * PXL_MoNKY is now known as PXL_ZzZz
[22:06] <Wiregridd> hello
[22:07] <Wiregridd> doesn't max have a noise filter, Anarchy?
[22:22] <Aqua|Work> Ok
[22:22] <Aqua|Work> rendering out 2000 frames in TGA is about 2 gigs
[22:22] <Aqua|Work> suggestions for downsizes that filesize?
[22:23] <Aqua|Work> downsizing
[22:24] <mcarp> make an mpeg?
[22:26] <Aqua|Work> not so much when rendering with 900+ nodes
[22:26] <Aqua|Work> and trying to composite passes cleanly
[22:26] <Aqua|Work> i'll just suffer
[22:27] <Wiregridd> i'm rendering a small black line where I have a gizmo, how do i hide that
[22:28] <Aqua|Work> black line?
[22:29] <Aqua|Work> a gizmo doesnt render
[22:29] <Aqua|Work> unless you've chosen 'renderable'
[22:29] <Aqua|Work> and i'm not sure thats even an option for scanline stuff
[22:29] <Wiregridd> well it's a cylinder
[22:29] <Wiregridd> i'll check if it's renderable
[22:29] <Wiregridd> but i don't think so
[22:31] <Wiregridd> nope, not renderable
[22:31] <Aqua|Work> you hav a cylinder...
[22:31] <Aqua|Work> You are saying that you don't want the primitive to render?
[22:31] <Aqua|Work> A cylinder object/
[22:31] <Aqua|Work> ?
[22:32] <Wiregridd> no, a gizmo cylidner
[22:32] <Wiregridd> nvm, i think i know what's happening, i have a slow explosion animation
[22:32] <Aqua|Work> ah
[22:32] <Wiregridd> so i think i'm seeing the very beginning of that
[22:32] <Aqua|Work> right
[22:37] <Aqua|Work> anyone know any real cool effects for a sphere
[22:37] <Aqua|Work> yano- package glowey effects
[22:37] <Aqua|Work> maybe with MR
[22:37] <Aqua|Work> i remember seeing this awesome glowing ball with MR . a tut on 3dluvr y
[22:37] <Aqua|Work> maybe some cool effect on the world globe?
[22:45] <Wiregridd> what's mr?
[22:47] <Method404> is that willi hammes I see?
[22:47] <Method404> when was the last time he showed his mug around these parts
[22:48] <Wiregridd> umm, i must of pressed somethign cause now i'm not rendering textures...
[22:49] <Wiregridd> materials rather
[22:49] <Aqua|Work> mr = mental ray
[22:50] <Wiregridd> oh, thanks
[22:50] <Aqua|Work> Method: do you remember that cute little glowey ball on 3dluvr
[22:50] <Method404> ...
[22:50] <Aqua|Work> it was like
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> they were showing off the new renderer packaged with max
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> years ago
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> i believe it was MR
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> it was a cool blue glowing, alien lookin sphere
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> the material was very nice...
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> Ok remember people makin a big ole deal about it
[22:51] <Aqua|Work> Ok = I
[22:55] <Wiregridd> coudl someone tell me how to toggle back on materials when rendering?
[22:55] <Aqua|Work> there not toggled off
[22:55] <Aqua|Work> are ya sure they are applied
[22:55] <Aqua|Work> or that your UV's are proper
[22:56] <Wiregridd> they were working 10 min ago
[22:56] * Jaka| is now known as Jakal
[22:56] <Wiregridd> they are also not visible in the viewports
[22:57] <Aqua|Work> save your scene
[22:57] <Aqua|Work> and end task 3dsmax
[22:57] <Aqua|Work> kill the process
[22:57] <Wiregridd> kk
[22:57] <Aqua|Work> so it doesnt save the keystroke
[23:00] <Wiregridd> very strange
[23:11] <Wiregridd> it seems that max is rendering in 4 bit colors
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[23:17] <Slade> damn wasnt that an impressive display of triggering my ignore filter :P
[23:17] <Aqua|Work> LoL
[23:19] <Slade> i wouldnt have even seen it if i didnt have my mirc debug window on
[23:26] <Wiregridd> can anyone try to fix my max file?
[23:27] <mcarp> still cant see materials?
[23:27] <Wiregridd> they are there, but washed out
[23:27] <Wiregridd> it looks like 4 bit textures
[23:27] <mcarp> in viewport?
[23:27] <Wiregridd> in viewport and rendering
[23:28] <mcarp> did you determine why they werent showing at all while ago?
[23:28] <Wiregridd> they were
[23:28] <Wiregridd> i just didn't notice
[23:29] <mcarp> ah ok
[23:29] <Wiregridd> i thought it was the face color
[23:29] <Wiregridd> but it was just a really bad rendering
[23:29] <mcarp> odd
[23:29] <mcarp> well i had a suggestion but i think that will not be useful now
[23:29] <Wiregridd> what's the suggestion?
[23:29] <mcarp> since you have determined they are there but doing odd things
[23:30] <mcarp> well, i was going to ask if you had gone to viewport config and checked disab
[23:30] <Wiregridd> ah, right
[23:31] <mcarp> or i might've suggested checking the driver config for whatever settings you
[23:31] <mcarp> got a screenshot?
[23:32] <mcarp> i am going to guess that the problem may be over my experience level
[23:32] <Wiregridd> yeah, i can give you a screenshot
[23:35] <mcarp> k
[23:35] <mcarp> accepted. not sure it will go tho
[23:36] <mcarp> failed
[23:36] <Wiregridd> is it blocked?
[23:36] <mcarp> well, its not blocked per se, but i have about a 50/50 chance of getting dcc
[23:37] <mcarp> mcarp@mcarp.org if you like
[23:37] <Wiregridd> thanks, i'll put it on the web
[23:37] <Wiregridd> and give you a link
[23:37] <mcarp> okeydoke
[23:37] <mcarp> that is my usual procedure
[23:37] <mcarp> i gave up on dcc a long time ago
[23:37] <Wiregridd> http://rapidshare.de/files/17794294/badMaterial.jpg.html
[23:39] <mcarp> haha
[23:39] <Wiregridd> what do you make of it?
[23:39] <mcarp> man thats screwy
[23:39] <mcarp> i can not see any evidence of texturing from that shot
[23:39] <Wiregridd> the maps are visible in the materials editor
[23:40] <Wiregridd> and Max isn't broken, cause i made a fresh file and textured it
[23:40] <mcarp> you have smooth+highlights or facets viewing?
[23:40] <Wiregridd> smooth
[23:41] <mcarp> either works of course
[23:41] <Wiregridd> it renders almost the same as the viewport
[23:41] <Wiregridd> with a slightly more detailed material
[23:41] <Wiregridd> but still the same washed out 4-bit colors
[23:42] <mcarp> what would happen if you made a new box and dropped a texture on it?
[23:42] <mcarp> would it do the same in that scene?
[23:42] <Wiregridd> no
[23:42] <Wiregridd> it looks the same as the other objects
[23:42] <Wiregridd> or yes
[23:42] <mcarp> have you changed the default properties of any of those textures objects?
[23:42] <Wiregridd> whatever you meant
[23:43] <Wiregridd> nope
[23:43] <Wiregridd> i suddenly have an idea what is going on
[23:43] <Wiregridd> let me try something
[23:43] <mcarp> what do you think it is then?
[23:43] <Wiregridd> lol
[23:43] <Wiregridd> wow
[23:43] <Wiregridd> you'll never guess
[23:43] <Wiregridd> here's a hint: it wasn't a bug
[23:44] <mcarp> short between keyboard and seat?
[23:44] <mcarp> lol
[23:44] <mcarp> sorry
[23:44] <mcarp> what was it?
[23:45] <Wiregridd> huh?
[23:45] <Wiregridd> short circuit?
[23:45] <Wiregridd> my global lighting was set to 115
[23:45] <Wiregridd> normal global lighting is 1.0
[23:45] <mcarp> yeah thats what me and my buddies say when we f up
[23:45] <mcarp> ah, so yer overexposed then
[23:46] <Wiregridd> i must have accidently typed that number
[23:46] <mcarp> ah yeah
[23:46] <mcarp> i sometimes switch to default lighting to see if i have messed up a light set
[23:46] <Wiregridd> i'm a n00b
[23:46] <mcarp> well after 3 yrs im still a n00b
[23:46] <mcarp> dont feel badly
[23:47] <Method404> n00b status lasts for a while
[23:47] <Wiregridd> indeed
[23:47] <Method404> INDEED
[23:47] <Wiregridd> INDEEEED!
[23:47] <mcarp> damn there are so many buttons and switches and bells and whistles
[23:48] <mcarp> hey i didnt know til a couple mo's ago you can only have a handful of active
[23:48] <Wiregridd> i didn't know that
[23:48] <Wiregridd> what's the limit?
[23:48] <mcarp> like 6 or 8
[23:49] <mcarp> there are 20 someodd lights in this scene: http://mcarp.earthstorm.com/reel/
[23:49] <mcarp> but you can only see 5 of them in viewport :/
[23:49] <Wiregridd> nice job with the lighting
[23:49] <mcarp> so i have to adjust light, quick render, repeat
[23:50] <Wiregridd> i haven't yet modeled my own lights
[23:50] <mcarp> one of these days i need to learn light mapping :/
[23:50] <Wiregridd> i thought you did
[23:50] <mcarp> yeah i wish
[23:50] <Wiregridd> how'd you make the blue trim around the ship
[23:50] <mcarp> those are self illumited materials
[23:51] <RogueLdr> noobsah
[23:51] <mcarp> illuminated
[23:51] <mcarp> the white strip needs fixing tho
[23:51] <mcarp> its supposed to be ribbed, but the texture has crappy contrast
[23:51] <Method404> noobash
[23:51] <Wiregridd> noobhas
[23:51] <Method404> noobtits
[23:52] <mcarp> heh
[23:52] <RogueLdr> method: http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/ogre06.jpg
[23:52] <RogueLdr> my latest mess
[23:52] <Method404> you can say that again!
[23:52] <Wiregridd> mcarp: you should make a animation of your ship blowing up
[23:52] <mcarp> good work
[23:52] <Method404> lol
[23:52] <Method404> j/k
[23:52] <Method404> looks cool man
[23:52] <mcarp> wire: heh, yeah that'd be some task
[23:53] <Method404> would be cool to break up the symmetry
[23:53] <Method404> but that might be coming ...
[23:54] <mcarp> well at least you have those forehead lines
[23:54] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/wushu_pose04.jpg
[23:54] <RogueLdr> still working on this too
[23:54] <RogueLdr> method: Will do
[23:54] <Method404> sweet ... great pose
[23:54] <RogueLdr> i'm just affraid to break up the symmetry at this point
[23:54] <RogueLdr> hehe
[23:55] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/wushu_pose01.jpg
[23:55] <RogueLdr> i like that pose too
[23:55] <Method404> holyshit you have a webpage
[23:55] <Method404> wtf
[23:55] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/wushu_pose02.jpg
[23:55] <mcarp> yeah i'm always afraid to break mirrors and find later i shoulda kept for so
[23:55] <RogueLdr> method: hehe mess in progress ;)
[23:55] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/wushu_pose08.jpg
[23:56] <Method404> woah he has weird lopsided eyes in that last one
[23:56] <Method404> cool posses though
[23:56] <Method404> poses
[23:56] <Wiregridd> i don't know how you get your ogre so detailed rogue
[23:56] <Wiregridd> you are like 3 whole skill levels above me
[23:56] <RogueLdr> hehe yeah everyone notices the eyes on tha tpose.. cause i painted it real
[23:56] <RogueLdr> noen of the pics have paint overs except for that one with the wierd eye h
[23:56] <mcarp> heh, yeah good stuff. now i feel even n00bier
[23:57] <notfakie> rogue has the amulet of cg wizardry
[23:57] <notfakie> gives +3 to modelling skills
[23:57] <Wiregridd> ah
[23:57] <Method404> the site looks really nice so far
[23:57] <RogueLdr> thanks
[23:57] <RogueLdr> so much to work on hehe
[23:58] <Method404> I hear ya
[23:58] <Method404> and it never seems to end
[23:58] <Wiregridd> how did you model the skin, rogue?
[23:58] <Wiregridd> that is some damn good skin
[23:58] <Method404> he ate his Wheaties ©
[23:58] <mcarp> cartoon plugin eh?
[23:58] <Wiregridd> i mean on the ogre model
[23:59] <RogueLdr> everyone say it at once.... Zbrush
[23:59] <RogueLdr> :)
[23:59] <mcarp> ah ok
[23:59] <Method404> like I said ...
[23:59] <Method404> he ate his Wheaties ©
[23:59] <mcarp> guess so :)
[23:59] <notfakie> i didnt know those symbols worked on irc
[23:59] <RogueLdr> http://www.adambaroody.com/dump/ogre01.jpg
[23:59] <Wiregridd> yeah, i hear zbrush is good and all
[23:59] <notfakie> i always get the little square
[23:59] <Wiregridd> but you still have to specify the details right?
[23:59] <Method404> zbrush is good if you are good
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